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| shaunm | I know Ubuntu has remixes for KDE and XFCE, and that you guys put a lot of documentation work into those. Is Ubuntu doing anything with any of the other desktop environments? | 03:54 |
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| shaunm | LXDE, Rox, GNUStep, Enlightenment? | 03:54 |
| Rocket2DMn | shaunm, we only handle official Ubuntu versions, so we don't document other DEs | 05:12 |
| Rocket2DMn | a fair amount of stuff can be shared with some though, since applications can be used in different DEs | 05:12 |
| cody-somerville | That untrue. | 05:13 |
| Rocket2DMn | which part? | 05:13 |
| cody-somerville | For LXDE, I think they're starting a documentation effort. | 05:13 |
| Rocket2DMn | I heard awhile ago about possibly having an official derivative with LXDE, haven't heard anything recently. Haven't heard anything about documentation for it | 05:14 |
| cody-somerville | Quite a bit of discussion at the previous UDS re: LXDE | 05:14 |
| cody-somerville | I think there might have been a session about documentation but I can't recall for sure. | 05:15 |
| Rocket2DMn | unfortunately I can't take the time to attend UDS, I haven't seen any announcements or mailing list discussions on it (at least on the lists i subscribve to) | 05:15 |
| Rocket2DMn | Were they going to call it Lubuntu or Little Ubuntu or something? | 05:15 |
| cody-somerville | shaunm, alas, there is nothing for those desktop environments yet | 05:15 |
| cody-somerville | Rocket2DMn, Lubuntu I believe | 05:15 |
| Rocket2DMn | I'd definitely support that, but to answer his questions, afaik there isn't documentation on other DEs that aren't officially supported (maybe perhaps a mention of them, but no real substance) | 05:16 |
| Rocket2DMn | Ran across a /. article today about linux documentation lacking :( | 05:16 |
| * cody-somerville nods. | 05:17 | |
| Rocket2DMn | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/12/03/1449211/Is-Linux-Documentation-Lacking | 05:17 |
| Rocket2DMn | there is definitely some truth to it | 05:17 |
| Rocket2DMn | some projects are better than others | 05:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | I know that KDE Documentation is hurting... One of the reasons I've kicked up to help with that on the Kubuntu end along with the KDE side. | 05:26 |
| Rocket2DMn | yeah, you guys are basically rewriting all of them | 05:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | on the Kubuntu side we are. | 05:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | i think with the ubuntu-docs, we'll hav eto give them a good once-over before string freeze, esp. since the next release is LTS | 05:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | seems like we miss things that get reported too late | 05:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah, that's why we are dumping all we have into Lucid | 05:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | taking the bugs from Karmic and Jaunty and pushing them into Lucid fixes | 05:29 |
| Rocket2DMn | we have lots of stuff open against ubuntu-docs | 05:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | I think we have about 2 dozen ATM but, with the re-write we have been taking care of them. | 05:31 |
| Rocket2DMn | I'm hoping to close out some old bugs for Lucid | 05:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | We are shooting for around the new year | 05:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | It's been fun starting fresh though | 05:33 |
| DarkwingDuck | You look at a blank slate and start writing | 05:33 |
| Rocket2DMn | Yeah, that is fun | 05:34 |
| DarkwingDuck | It was a little daunting at first but, after a bit you realize it is actually simpler to get what you want to say across | 05:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'm debating on doing a presentation for Documentation at Camp-KDE in January | 05:35 |
| Rocket2DMn | go for it man | 05:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | I think I will... Putting together the presentation will be easy... It's mostly a style and putting together what you want and XML/Docbook | 05:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | Have you guys switched to Mallard yet? | 05:40 |
| Rocket2DMn | no, we;re still using docbook, are you using mallard? | 05:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | No, and I don't think we will | 05:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | docbook is too simple | 05:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | :) | 05:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | I know there was an email thread talking about mallard and the gnome side of the house | 05:42 |
| Rocket2DMn | Hehe, well, I'm not sure when we will switch | 05:45 |
| Rocket2DMn | if we can convert to mallard easily, i would support that for Lucid since we will have to maintain the docs for quite awhile | 05:45 |
| DarkwingDuck | I actually have not used Mallard... what | 05:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | is the benefit of Mallard over docbook? | 05:50 |
| Rocket2DMn | I don't remember exactly, but if gnome is using it, it makes sense for us to use it | 05:51 |
| DarkwingDuck | Very true | 05:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | Just like with KDE using Docbook so should us on the Kubuntu side | 05:54 |
| Rocket2DMn | okie dokie, i'm off | 05:57 |
| Rocket2DMn | see ya later DarkwingDuck | 05:57 |
| shaunm | DarkwingDuck, cody-somerville: if you happen to run across anybody seriously doing LXDE documentation work, could you let me know? | 06:07 |
| shaunm | whether within Ubuntu or just upstream | 06:07 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'll keep me ears open | 06:08 |
| shaunm | thanks | 06:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | shaunm, you had mentioned a couple of days ago about a help summit in kde-docs | 06:10 |
| shaunm | DarkwingDuck: yeah | 06:15 |
| shaunm | that's sort of why I'm after documentation people from other teams | 06:15 |
| DarkwingDuck | where will it be at? | 06:21 |
| shaunm | DarkwingDuck: Chicago | 06:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahhh, hmm... I don't know if I'll be able to make that or not... | 06:37 |
| shaunm | where are you? | 06:37 |
| DarkwingDuck | San Diego | 06:38 |
| shaunm | it's tough choosing a city. no matter where it is, it's bad for somebody | 06:38 |
| shaunm | one of the guys I'd like to have is in australia. anything on this continent sucks for him | 06:38 |
| shaunm | Chicago seemed good, because it's easy to fly to. If you can get a direct flight anywhere, you can probably get it to Chicago. | 06:39 |
| shaunm | Plus, I'm fairly close, so it's easier for me to plan. And nixternal and j1mc are both there. | 06:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | Oh yeah. I have family in northern Indiana so, I might make a trip of it | 06:41 |
| shaunm | Yeah? Where at? I'm from northwest Indiana, originally | 06:41 |
| DarkwingDuck | Fort Wayne | 06:42 |
| shaunm | ah, farther east then | 06:42 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah, but, not bad | 06:42 |
| shaunm | still, that's what, a three hour drive? | 06:42 |
| shaunm | that's how far I am from the city, just in a different direction | 06:42 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah, 3, 3 1/2. | 06:43 |
| shaunm | all right, I'm heading to bed. I'm hoping to get a confirmation on the venue soon. When I do, I'll send out emails. | 06:45 |
| DarkwingDuck | Cool, let me know | 06:46 |
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| mistrynitesh | jjesse: while updating the system docs, should 'status' attribute be 'draft' or 'writing'/'review' | 15:57 |
| jjesse | waiting review | 15:57 |
| mistrynitesh | jjesse: hmmm... 'draft' or 'waiting review' is not listed on the wiki page ~/Checking | 15:58 |
| mistrynitesh | jjesse: do we need to update https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Checking ? | 16:00 |
| jjesse | umm don't know, been a while since i referenced that page | 16:01 |
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| Rocket2DMn | hey guys, for bug 145055 - what do you think about just linking to the document from advanced-topics ? | 21:19 |
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