=== pleia2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-learning to: Ubuntu Community Learning Project | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning | Next Meeting: Sunday, December 6, 2009 @ 9PM EST (Monday, December 7, @ 2AM UTC) | Support in #ubuntu === pleia2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-learning to: Ubuntu Community Learning Project | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning | Next Meeting: Sunday, December 6, 2009 @ 9PM EST (Monday, December 7, @ 2AM UTC) in #ubuntu-meeting | Support in #ubuntu [01:42] pleia2: just saw your mail [01:43] nigel_nb: thoughts? [01:43] mine is an intro to bzr [01:43] I was hoping we could hash some of this out before our meeting on sunday so we don't bog the meeting down with it [01:43] essentially what doctormo wrote on his blog in a asciidoc class form [01:44] ok, so you talk about "log into bzr, here is how you commit changes.." etc? [01:44] yes [01:44] wrt to uclp [01:45] great [01:45] I've finished first draft of 5 sections (half) [01:45] close to finishing that? [01:45] ok :) [01:45] since u want it escalated, I'll drop everything and get the first draft complete today and put it up for review [01:46] thanks, you rock! [01:46] now I need to track down BiosElement for asciidoc ;) [01:46] :) [01:47] you'll be available online? [01:47] today i mean [01:47] for another hour at least, I have a terrible cold that is making me sleep like 14 hours/day [01:48] ah :P, join the club [01:48] but I'm still kickin though [01:48] :) [01:48] I'll start off then, so I can check with you on language [01:48] great, thanks [01:54] pleia2: tircd shows you replies from people that you're not following? [01:54] nigel_nb: the client doesn't control that, it's the twitter api [01:55] oh ok :) [01:56] but yeah, it does [01:56] have to try it out later then [01:56] oh, lp is down [01:56] doh [02:06] pleia2: I'm around >.> [02:06] hey BiosElement :) [02:06] see my email? [02:06] Aye. [02:07] where are we with asciidoc structure? [02:07] * pleia2 itches to write stuff [02:07] Ahh, that's a good question. >.> [02:11] * pleia2 watches her energy meter drop significantly faster than she had anticipated [02:12] stupid cold! [02:12] pleia2: wanna hit the bed? [02:12] yeah, I think that's where I'm headed :( [02:12] I'll be around all weekend though [02:12] anyway, lp is down [02:12] anything I do stays in my system [02:13] asked in #launchpad, it was supposed to be up at 2345 UTC, but some delay. So, there is no guarantee when it will be up [02:13] * pleia2 nods [02:14] * nigel_nb_ just noticed something great :) [02:14] I've finished 5/9 sections so far [02:14] you rock :) [02:16] * nigel_nb_ blushes === nigel_nb is now known as nigel_nb_ === nigel_nb_ is now known as nigel_nb [02:30] pleia2: if u're still here, I could use some help [03:49] heh, I love how "William Chambers doesn't use Launchpad" and yet my branches are still listed :P Gotta love half working systems. >.> [03:49] hey BiosElement long time no see dude... [03:49] Heya cprofitt [03:49] Aye, it's been ages. ^_^ [03:50] you going to have some free time in Mid-December to do some asciidoc with me? [03:50] Speaking of AsciiDoc, I've got to figureout what's up with that. >.> [13:00] doctormo! [13:01] we need to talk about asciidoc soon :) [13:12] Hey pleia2, we do indeed [13:12] nigel is the obviouslly best persont o ask about writing, after myself. [13:13] And I wanted BiosElement to get busy with the scripts for building the resulting documents [13:13] But so far, no work has been done. [13:13] I spoke with bioselement last night, he said it was in your court [13:13] It is not [13:13] I am not interested in scripts at this point, I want raw "how to do stuff" [13:14] waiting for scripts is killing us [13:14] Sure [13:14] *I* don't even know how this all works :) [13:14] Not these, these aren't important for writing [13:14] bios was concerned that we don't have asciidoc structure yet [13:14] so for writing we still just use odt? [13:14] They're just build scripts, and it's with BiosElement, i'm waiting on him to get those into some order. But enough of that. [13:15] ok, maybe you should touch base with him? [13:15] I think Bios isn't accepting the structure that's there already. He wants to keep reinventing it. [13:15] So it seems I need to. [13:15] I thought the structure was too complicated? [13:15] he wanted a simpler one [13:15] It's not possible. [13:16] ok - so we did decide upon a structure? [13:16] Aye, that would be good. [13:16] if we could get that documented it'd be great, a "this stuff goes here, this file is for this...." [13:16] maybe with pretty pictures :) [13:17] Yes, sorry for being absent, it's been busy with me visiting the UK, lots of family and such that need attention. [13:19] no problem :) [13:19] I just wanted to get some of this sorted before our meeting [13:45] huh my computer cut out [13:45] pleia2: if you responded I didn't get it [13:45] all I said was that I wanted to try and get the asciidoc stuff on track before our meeting [13:45] so we don't waste time and stall more saying "we need to do this stuff" [13:46] pleia2: The problem is that we have say 100 units of work to do, and a capacity to only do about 10 units per week, unless people can be convinced to do more work, there isn't much choice. [13:48] so should we be telling people to write things in odt until we can sort out the asciidoc situation? [13:49] I'd help if I could, but I don't even understand the asciidoc format [13:50] pleia2: We should be already (I thought that's what we were doing) [13:50] pleia2: But don't forget, there is as much structure in odt as there is in anything [13:50] asciidoc has book directories and things that are confusing [13:50] The problems I can see is how much we'll have to rewrite because we don't have odt templates. [13:51] I don't really understand how it works, or how to create things out of it [13:51] pleia2: asciidoc it's self is fairly direct, you create a text file, you run a command on it, it creates a pdf. [13:52] ok, I'll have to look at it again, I thought there were more directories and files than that [13:53] pleia2: There are, but that's not ascii doc's fault, that's mine. === doctormo_ is now known as doctormo [13:55] hmm [13:57] alright, I'll take a look later http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-learning-board/ubuntu-learning-materials/trunk2/files/head:/maintain/commandline-basics/ is a good example? [13:57] this does seem reasonable [13:57] I think I was confused by earlier versions [14:00] do we have a document explaining the structure yet? If this is a good example I can write one for my own benefit, show it to you and you can confirm it's correct? [14:03] sorry for being such a pain :) [14:40] doctormo: ping [14:41] pleia2: up yet? [14:41] nigel_nb: yeah, but busy morning at work [14:41] oh [14:41] if you want me to review something just give me a link and I'll get to it when I have some time :) [14:41] just wanted to let you know, I've pushed up to revision 12 [14:41] here's the branch https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/ubuntu-learning-materials/bazaar-introduction [14:42] can u just do a review when you get time and ping/mail me? [14:43] sure [14:43] do you want technical testing too? [14:43] thanks :) [14:43] not really, I doubt if u can test it, since its not complete [14:43] but, do let me know if the format gives you trouble [14:43] ok :) [14:44] thanks nigel_nb [14:44] thanks to you too pleia2 :) [14:44] hope you're doing better today [14:44] thanks, I think I am a bit [14:44] great :) [15:07] nigel_nb: pong [15:07] doctormo: oh great :) [15:07] just wanted to tell I you I pushed to rev 12 [15:07] just 3 more sections to go [15:08] \o/ [15:08] pleia2: Reviewing nigel_nb's branch will also give you a good example [15:08] doctormo: ok, great [15:08] thanks :) [15:08] hey pleia2 [15:08] I'll try to have this done by our meeting time on sunday [15:08] hey ZachK_ :) [15:08] doctormo: doing okay? [15:09] pleia2: any assistance give I can? [15:09] ZachK_: same as before, you can link up to good existing documentation in the wiki [15:09] cool [15:12] nigel_nb: One second [15:12] okay [15:14] nigel_nb: It looks great, I like the ssh key description [15:15] doctormo: talsemgeest helped me with that one [15:15] took a lot of trouble formatting it properly [15:22] nigel_nb: I see, double cudos for getting help when required. [15:23] well, lyz (I dont wanna ping her) went to bed coz she was sick, so had to find someone :P [15:34] doctormo: I'm off to work then, catch you on meeting day [15:34] or 2morrow [15:57] mornin [16:10] hey FFEMTcJ [16:11] whats up doc? [16:11] not that you have EVER heard that before [16:11] FFEMTcJ: No never ;-) [16:12] FFEMTcJ: he probably hasn't seen bugs bunny :P [16:12] doctormo: have you? [16:12] hehe [16:13] nigel_nb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUYZYJ7XueI [16:14] reminds me of the good old days [16:14] when i was 6 and all I did was cartoon network [16:14] aw, the music itself its nostalgic [16:15] Oh Mur-dur! [16:26] 29 [16:26] uggh [16:26] 29 [16:26] wtf [16:26] * pleia2 offers FFEMTcJ a handful of /s, and the swear jar [16:27] ty [16:27] after 3 years, still not used to the lappy keyboard [16:27] lol [17:07] wb ubuntulog [21:20] hey BiosElement, we should talk [21:20] Hey doctormo, what's up? [21:22] sounds serious [21:24] hey mhall119|worknot really, just clarifying what structures are being promoted and taught.' [21:25] okay [21:25] cause that's how you start the "grandma died" conversation [21:27] mhall119|work: we should talk [21:27] mhall119|work: didyou know that peanuts are really beans? [21:29] they're legumes [21:30] Same thing [21:30] legumes are the parent class of both beans and peanuts, according to wikipedia [21:31] and wikipedia is never wrong [21:31] at least, that's what I read on wikipedia [21:31] * mhall119|work just had the best idea for spam chain email [21:32] I'm going to start an email rumor that going to snopes.com will infect your computer with a virus. [21:32] who are you going to use to check if that's true or rumor? [21:32] <_marx_> beautiful