[05:39] <pace_t_zulu> ping
[05:39] <pace_t_zulu> anyone here?
[05:40] <micahg> hi pace_t_zulu
[05:40] <pace_t_zulu> sup micahg
[05:40] <pace_t_zulu> you a gwibber user?
[05:40] <micahg> pace_t_zulu: nope
[05:41] <pace_t_zulu> you know where i can find the gwibber community? #gwibber is not a room
[05:41]  * micahg is checking
[05:42] <pace_t_zulu> they don't have an irc room or an official webpage (beyond their launchpad page)
[05:42] <pace_t_zulu> micahg, have you checked out gnome-shell?
[05:42] <micahg> pace_t_zulu: nop[e
[05:42] <pace_t_zulu> micahg, are you a gnome or kde user?
[05:42] <micahg> pace_t_zulu: xfce :)
[05:43] <pace_t_zulu> micahg, well played
[05:43] <micahg> pace_t_zulu: irc://irc.arstechnica.com/gwibber
[05:43] <pace_t_zulu> micahg, i used xfce back in the day
[05:43] <pace_t_zulu> micahg, ty
[05:43] <micahg> pace_t_zulu: I like a lean desktop environment
[05:43] <micahg> I might switch to lxde when it becomes official
[07:17] <micahg> asac: fta: I refreshed a patch in ff3.7, but I need review before pushing since I noticed a few more preferences that needed URLs tweaked
[07:24] <micahg> [reed]: does bug 344814 seem like something to upstream?  also, are there any tricks to searching for something like this?
[07:26] <[reed]> micahg: can you confirm it?
[07:27] <[reed]> if so, sure
[07:27] <[reed]> for searching, use quicksearch
[07:27] <micahg> ok, I'll try chinese :)
[07:27] <micahg> I tried the quicksearch but came up empty
[07:27] <[reed]> check Core :: Printing: Output, probably
[07:28] <micahg> ok
[08:18] <micahg> [reed]: who do I need to subscribe to that chinese bug?
[08:58] <micahg> sorry dpm, I'll keep that in mind in the future
[08:58] <dpm> micahg, no worries and no need to apologise :-), thanks a lot for forwarding the bug upstream!
[10:24] <asac> micahg: show it to me ;)
[10:27] <micahg> http://pastebin.com/f386a543a
[10:29] <micahg> asac: ^^
[10:37] <asac> micahg: yes. i think that looks ok. we replaced %APP% before and you did it the same way
[10:37] <micahg> ok, I just saw more preferences in the file, so I wanted to verify that we wanted to replace those as well
[10:38] <micahg> asac: ok, I'll push up the changes
[10:38] <asac> yes. i think thats correct
[10:39] <micahg> done
[10:40] <micahg> asac: about bug 242801, are we past replacing mozilla-firefox-locales-xx with the appropriate langpack package
[11:08] <asac> mozilla bug 435088
[11:09] <asac> micahg: looking at bug. one second
[11:10] <asac> micahg: someone would have to confirm that thats an issue again
[11:10] <asac> still
[11:11] <micahg> well, are we worried about gutsy to hardy upgrades still?  we replaced everything in hardy, right?
[11:13] <asac> no. we are definitly not worried about that anymore
[11:13] <asac> and i remember that there were a few initial issues with translations
[11:14] <asac> so could be that that bug is still a fall out from that
[11:14] <asac> ccheney: so the wiki page is a good start. but it doesnt really help, agreed?
[11:14] <asac> we need a more condensed view on that
[11:14] <asac> what i want is a list of source packages for hardy/intrepid/jaunty/karmic
[11:14] <asac> for main and universe
[11:18] <asac> if you are honest, the current wiki page is not really suitable to track any progress and do any yes or no decision ;)
[11:19] <asac> so please go to through that manually and merge stuff in one table ... eliminate duplicates (from -update/etc.) and only mentione source packages as the main dimneion
[11:19] <asac> dimension
[11:19] <asac> and binary packages next to them in a column (but no row for a binary package explicitly)
[11:21] <micahg> asac: so, should I mark the bug invalid then?
[11:21] <asac> yes
[11:21] <asac> if they still see it they can reopen
[11:27] <micahg> dpm: is it ok, to close out the translations portion of bug 242801
[14:16] <asac> debian guys are crazy still ... for icedove-3.0 packaging they really do:
[14:16] <asac> mobile-lucid-arm-per-soc-powermanagement:
[14:17] <asac> err
[14:17] <asac>   * [cce57db] ship extracted upstream tarball in orig file
[14:17] <asac> masochism in its purest form :-P
[14:22] <fta> they have a -3.0 package now?
[14:25] <fta> hggdh, gasp, evo turns crazy again when i click on an attchmt. same as before (100% cpu, 100% mem), was the gtk2-engines-murrine workaround reverted in karmic??
[14:27] <fta> i thought i was safe from regressions by sticking with karmic for a while, apparently not
[14:31] <asac> fta: i think its not yet in the official archive
[14:32] <asac> not sure why they just take it over ;)
[14:32] <fta> ?
[14:32] <fta> evo? murrine? tb3?
[14:36] <asac> bug 319240
[14:36] <asac> fta: icedove3
[14:40] <armin76> asac: you're a debian guy as well :P
[14:47] <asac> well. i refer to folks != me ... also obviously i am never generalising all the debian folks
[14:47] <asac> just too lazy to name all names
[15:07] <asac> bug 431963
[15:07] <asac> bug 456659
[15:17] <hggdh> fta: no, it was not, at least to my knowledge
[15:19] <hggdh> fta: will look at it again
[15:20] <fta> hggdh, i reproduced it 3 times since yesterday, but that's not 100% of the times
[15:21] <fta> just retried the same email, cpu sky rocked, the whole thing blinked for a few seconds, but it worked
[15:21] <fta> (/w tons of in the console ** (evolution:5587): CRITICAL **: murrine_style_draw_box: assertion `width >= -1' failed)
[15:22] <hggdh> fta: so upstream fix is in, IIRC
[15:22] <hggdh> and does not seem to be enough
[15:27] <hggdh> fta: did you see the same assertion failures before the fix? I do not remember
[15:28] <fta> i don't remember either
[15:28] <hggdh> cuz this check is not in the fix (I was wrong)
[15:32] <hggdh> fta: did you ever install the patched package, or did you keep running asac's patch?
[15:33] <asac> my patch was surely better ;)
[15:33] <asac> fixing while might feel clean to the normal developers
[15:33]  * hggdh does not doubt it, not by a loong shot
[15:33] <asac> but catching bad values up front is the better way ;)
[15:34] <hggdh> I agree. I wonder if we should go back in, and add the assertions in again. If fta is being hit, some other people might also
[15:34] <hggdh> but we will need to reopen the issue
[15:34] <asac> hggdh: is it still the same issue?
[15:34] <asac> oh
[15:35] <asac> fta: have a new backtrace of that now?
[15:37] <ccheney> asac: ok will get it merged
[15:38] <hggdh> as far as I remember, fta did not try the fixed package, so it got in when he upgraded to karmic
[15:38] <asac> thx
[15:38] <asac> hggdh: right. but i want to see a backtrace
[15:39] <hggdh> same here
[15:39] <asac> evolution seems to have bugs with sizing and it might involve more than what we fixed now
[15:39] <hggdh> evo is a beast...
[15:43] <fta> i had to patch evo recently so i know it's a beast
[15:44] <fta> hmm, my gtk2-engines-murrine is 0.90.3-1ubuntu1
[15:44] <fta> seems old
[15:44] <fta> jaunty, wtf happened?
[15:47]  * ccheney is feeling pretty sick today, thinks he will finish the table then go back to bed :(
[15:52] <hggdh> ftathis is weird indeed
[16:01] <fta> hggdh, was the work-around uploaded at all?
[16:03] <asac> you mean the fix ;)
[16:03] <asac> i think we included it for release and then replaced it
[16:03] <asac> but not sure
[16:07] <hggdh> yes, the fix is on the karmic released murrine
[16:07] <hggdh> just checked it
[16:07] <hggdh> but not the assertions proposed by asac
[16:08] <hggdh> (although I would rather still have them, but this would mean yet another delta)
[16:08] <mac_v> asac: hmm , release meeting in -release or -meeting?
[16:09] <fta> oh my! the source.list on that box is incomplete
[16:09] <fta> it's meant for +1
[16:09] <asac> hehe
[16:09] <asac> mac_v: my wrong ;)
[16:10] <mac_v> ;)
[16:29] <ccheney> asac: got it merged, need to add binary packages, but feel to sick to sit up anymore :(
[16:34] <asac> ccheney: sick? how bad?
[16:35] <ccheney> asac: can barely stand now also, was hard sitting earlier, seems to be pretty bad
[16:35] <ccheney> asac: not sure what it is though, might be a hernia from what i read online
[16:36] <asac> ccheney: ok. so we can wait with starting porting till next week ;)
[16:36] <asac> get better soon
[16:36] <ccheney> and its expected to snow several inches today, in an area that never gets snow so no snowplows, so hopefully i can make it to the doctor
[16:39] <hggdh> ccheney: you live in TX, correct?
[16:40] <ccheney> yea
[16:40] <ccheney> from what i hear houston is expected to get anywhere from 2-5" (5-13cm) snow today
[16:41] <hggdh> hum. I guess I should check how DFW is going to fare...
[16:41] <ccheney> it snowed up there a couple days ago aiui
[16:41] <ccheney> i think that is where the snow for houston came from
[16:41] <hggdh> yes, but very light
[16:42] <hggdh> uff, clear for us here. I guess it all got sent to Houston indeed ;-)
[16:43] <ccheney> heh
[16:43] <ccheney> we'll see, hopefully it will miss us somehow
[16:43]  * ccheney bbl, headed to the doctor now
[17:11] <asac> bug 425312
[17:11] <asac> bug 481767
[17:21]  * asac off for evening
[17:42] <mac_v> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-49335-4.html
[17:42] <mac_v> :)
[18:43] <fmorales> Anyone know where I can go to ask questions about Rhino?
[18:44] <micahg> #ubuntu?
[18:45] <fmorales> for Mozilla Rhino?
[18:45] <micahg> fmorales: mozilla rhino?
[18:45] <micahg> hmm
[18:46] <micahg> interesting, never heard of it before, but I guess it exists :)
[18:46] <fmorales> micahg: yes
[18:46] <micahg> well I guess this is the place, but I don't know any answers offhand, maybe someone else does :)
[18:47] <fmorales> http://www.mozilla.org/rhino/
[18:48] <fmorales> We're having issues building. Maven does a whole lot of nothing. I'm wondering if it's an Ant project or what?
[18:52] <micahg> fmorales: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Rhino_documentation
[18:55] <fmorales> looking at that now
[22:09] <fta> asac, what do you think of this? http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28943
[22:58] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[23:12] <fta> *sigh* http://identi.ca/notice/16085460
[23:13]  * BUGabundo cheks
[23:13] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOLOLOL
[23:13] <BUGabundo> ahah
[23:13] <BUGabundo> we need longer days then :)
[23:13] <BUGabundo> or more CPU power
[23:13] <fta> or both