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| neoTheCat | good evening EST | 02:14 |
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| neoTheCat | if i want to run bzr on multiple of my own machines, can i run whoami with the same name and email address on each machine? | 02:16 |
| maxb | Yes you can, and moreover, you should. (Unless you actually wish to present multiple identities to the world) | 02:20 |
| neoTheCat | maxb: cool, thanks. i did not know if they would mess up anything when i work on one machine, and then i synch up with another one of my machines. | 02:22 |
| neoTheCat | is peer-to-peer a bad idea if you are doing it with more than one person? | 02:52 |
| neoTheCat | partner-workflow? | 02:52 |
| neoTheCat | i followed the recipes on the bzr documentation page. i set up the "bzr init-repo bzrrepo" on both machines, then bzr-init for my project dir. when i try to get the branch, i am getting the "ERROR: not a branch" error. | 03:31 |
| Peng | neoTheCat: "get"? Like, remotely? You know bzr+ssh:// and sftp:// paths are relative to the root, right? | 03:34 |
| neoTheCat | Peng: thanks. i assumed because using the sftp command by itself brought me to the users home dir, that bzr, using the same protocol would do the same. | 03:36 |
| neoTheCat | which is why i should RTF much closer... :) | 03:36 |
| neoTheCat | s/RTF/RTFM/ | 03:36 |
| Peng | neoTheCat: You can use bzr+ssh://user@bzr.example.com/~/some_path_relative_to_the_home_dir | 03:37 |
| Peng | neoTheCat: (same on sftp) | 03:37 |
| neoTheCat | thank you | 03:41 |
| gour | morning | 07:17 |
| gour | i see there is only bzr-2.1 avaialble as pip and i wonder if it is safe-enough to be installed on my webfaction 'server' ? | 07:18 |
| Peng | gour: Probably. bzr.dev *usually* works. | 07:37 |
| Peng | gour: I mean, _I_ run it, but my server is down half the time anyway, so reliability is not that important. ;-) | 07:37 |
| gour | Peng: i installed it. it is not so critical to pull from git repo from time to time with bzr-git | 07:41 |
| shyam_k | /me just starting with using revision conrol systems | 08:55 |
| shyam_k | 08:55 | |
| * shyam_k just starting with version control systems. | 08:55 | |
| shyam_k | my current needs are very simple. | 08:56 |
| shyam_k | can't i use bazaar as an intelligent history enabled auto-save system for my local files too? | 08:56 |
| shyam_k | that is just for personal use. | 08:57 |
| gour | shyam_k: sure you can do | 09:03 |
| shyam_k | gour: oh good.. thanks. | 09:07 |
| shyam_k | am currently reading through the different options.. i like it emacs ish.. won't mind a learning curve, but want it to be powerful:) | 09:08 |
| shyam_k | anyone using bzr with emacs? i just started with a local bzr repository and i would like to make it automatically commit every few minutes just like emacs makes the auto-save .. how to go for that? | 13:18 |
| luks | that doesn't seem like a good idea | 13:21 |
| shyam_k | hmm.. ok. what about integrating emacs' auto-save with bazaar? letting emacs do a commit on the bazaar to save the auto save file | 13:36 |
| shyam_k | hasn't it been a need already? | 13:37 |
| Peng | How would auto-commit generate decent commit messages? | 13:38 |
| shyam_k | it can be some constant stuff.. what i want is to protect data.. | 13:38 |
| shyam_k | luks: why is it a bad idea? | 13:47 |
| Raim | hi | 13:54 |
| Raim | how can I use 'bzr send' to submit a patch to another developer if the public branch is temporarily offline? | 13:55 |
| Raim | bzr send insists on connection to the server, but I just want to get a bundle of revisions and send them to someone | 13:55 |
| bpierre | hi | 17:18 |
| mac_v | hi... is there a wiki for the bzr gtk? | 17:38 |
| mac_v | or tutorial ? | 17:39 |
| === gutworth_ is now known as gutworth | ||
| mac_v | nvm , found it :) | 17:46 |
| neoTheCat | hello. i have some basic newbie questions. i am very confused on the difference between checkout and branch commands for getting a new project locally. what is the difference? | 19:25 |
| fullermd | Checkout gives you a [new] working tree to work on an existing branch. Branch gives you a new independent branch. | 19:32 |
| neoTheCat | fullermd: thanks. simple enough. | 19:32 |
| fullermd | Simple is my speciality :) | 19:33 |
| fullermd | ... OK, that's a lie. But I like to think it. | 19:33 |
| neoTheCat | good. you will be my best friend for a while then :) | 19:33 |
| neoTheCat | so, if i setup a central repository, and i have two people (actually, just me on two different machines), and i just do checkouts and commits, i will handle conflicts manually, like in cvs or svn? | 19:34 |
| fullermd | Yeah. You'll have to 'update' before you can commit when you're out of date, etc. | 19:35 |
| neoTheCat | thanks. and one more question, and i think you have gotten me further in these few minutes, then by reading the docs. | 19:35 |
| fullermd | The biggest difference is that 'checkout' by default creates what we call a "heavy" checkout, which means it still copies down a whole copy of the history (like branch does), as a local cache. | 19:35 |
| fullermd | Which means you can do things like 'log' and 'diff' without having to hit the network. | 19:35 |
| neoTheCat | i created the "peer-to-peer" setup. i created a repository on "Machine A", and then on Machine B, did a "bzr branch sftp://...". but when i commit on Machine B, it stills tries to hit Machine A. | 19:37 |
| fullermd | That probably means you really ended up with a checkout, not a branch (either by running 'checkout' originally, or by doing something with 'bind' or maybe 'reconfigure' later) | 19:38 |
| fullermd | See what 'info' has to say about the branch on B. | 19:38 |
| neoTheCat | you know, i was playing around, and i could have done a checkout by accident. | 19:38 |
| neoTheCat | yup, i did a checkout. | 19:38 |
| neoTheCat | well, i am done with all my questions, and i am very much looking forward to removing subversion and switching to bzr | 19:39 |
| fullermd | Note that, where possible, you probably want to use bzr+ssh rather than sftp. It'll be a lot faster, especially at incremental stuff, as things get bigger. | 19:40 |
| fullermd | If you have a real shell and bzr in the path on the far side, it should Just Work. | 19:40 |
| neoTheCat | i am just happy to able to use real tags, not branches=tags ) | 19:40 |
| neoTheCat | ) | 19:40 |
| mac_v | hmm , how do i launch bzr-gtk? | 20:06 |
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| Noldorin | hi. what's the standard html page used for public http repos that shows instructions? | 20:53 |
| Noldorin | anyone? | 21:13 |
| Noldorin | >hi. what's the standard html page used for public http repos that shows instructions? | 21:39 |
| lifeless | I don't think anyone understands the question | 21:39 |
| Noldorin | lifeless: there's some sort of standard page that people put on their http sites | 21:41 |
| Noldorin | in the dirs from which bzr repos are served | 21:41 |
| Noldorin | i've seen it before | 21:41 |
| Noldorin | but not sure where to get it | 21:41 |
| Peng | Noldorin: You mean like on http://bzr.mattnordhoff.com/loggerhead/? | 21:42 |
| Noldorin | Peng: not quite. it's just a simple page that says "this is a bzr repo", writes the url, and gives some instructions how to pull the repo | 21:42 |
| Peng | Noldorin: Unless you mean like the "To get this branch" box on e.g. http://bzr.mattnordhoff.com/loggerhead/loggerhead/cheezum/changes, I dunno, sorry. | 21:44 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, Peng: ah, i guess i mean something like http://blueprintgames.com/developers/alex/bzr/cocoa-extractor/ | 21:44 |
| Peng | Noldorin: Ah. Um. I don't recall ever seeing that before. Might be custom. | 21:45 |
| Peng | Noldorin: It's just one HTML page. | 21:45 |
| Noldorin | Peng: yeah, that was my point exactly lol :P | 21:46 |
| Noldorin | well, you could be right | 21:46 |
| Noldorin | i was told it was standard though... | 21:46 |
| Peng | Oh? | 21:46 |
| Noldorin | heh, is there anything better you know of? | 21:47 |
| Noldorin | (short of loggerhead, since that doesn't work on VPSs) | 21:47 |
| Noldorin | i mean, yeah, it's not much. but it's better than a 404 :) | 21:50 |
| maxb | <Noldorin> (short of loggerhead, since that doesn't work on VPSs) | 21:53 |
| maxb | uh, why not? | 21:53 |
| lifeless | maxb: windows IIS VPSs | 21:54 |
| * maxb runs away | 21:54 | |
| Noldorin | hehe | 22:14 |
| Noldorin | lifeless, maxb: i don't think it would work on linux apache VPSs either | 22:14 |
| Noldorin | since it needs to be run as a separate server | 22:14 |
| Noldorin | which is a bit of a shame | 22:14 |
| Noldorin | because it's a nice interface... | 22:14 |
| Noldorin | but its usage is vastly restricted | 22:14 |
| lifeless | mod_wsgi | 22:15 |
| Noldorin | lifeless: well i should in theory be able to use it on IIS with isapi-wsgi | 22:17 |
| Noldorin | but there's no instructions :() | 22:17 |
| mneptok | IIS? | 22:39 |
| * mneptok checks the calendar | 22:39 | |
| mneptok | OK, it *is* 2009. | 22:39 |
| NeverGone | hello | 22:46 |
| NeverGone | one question? | 22:47 |
| gutworth | maybe two | 22:48 |
| Peng | Noldorin: What kind of *nix VPS prevents you from running mod_proxy? | 22:49 |
| Peng | Noldorin: The issue is RAM... | 22:49 |
| Peng | NeverGone: That was your one question. | 22:50 |
| Peng | (Is that still funny? Was it ever?) | 22:50 |
| NeverGone | When I'm in a subdirectory of a branch (repo/foo/bar), how can I create a new branch directly? | 22:50 |
| Peng | NeverGone: What do you mean? | 22:50 |
| Noldorin | Peng: the problem is running the server in the first place, as i see it | 22:50 |
| Peng | Noldorin: In what way? | 22:51 |
| Noldorin | Peng: you need the command line, as far as i know | 22:52 |
| Peng | Soo? | 22:52 |
| Noldorin | you can't run it if you don't have it | 22:53 |
| Peng | There's a *nix VPS without command line access? | 22:53 |
| Noldorin | just about every one i've used :P | 22:54 |
| Noldorin | haha | 22:54 |
| maxb | Buy a better VPS | 22:56 |
| maxb | If you don't get root, it's not worth your money | 22:56 |
| * Peng is writing this from a CLI IRC client, on a *nix VPS, next to the Loggerhead tab. | 22:56 | |
| Noldorin | ok, so this is my fault. i don't actually mean a VPS it seems | 22:57 |
| Noldorin | just a normal shared server | 22:57 |
| Peng | Ah. | 22:58 |
| Noldorin | yeah, sorry about that | 22:58 |
| Peng | ...I still have shell access to my shared servers (kind of, at least). | 22:58 |
| Noldorin | from a shared server... | 22:58 |
| Noldorin | i think i'm out of look | 22:58 |
| Noldorin | luck* | 22:58 |
| Peng | You could probably work something out with the FastCGI, SCGI and AJP support that was recently added. | 22:59 |
| Noldorin | possibly | 22:59 |
| Noldorin | but i think it would be asking for much pain on a windows iis7 shared server | 22:59 |
| Noldorin | i have isapi-wsgi installed...so in theory, i should be able to run it | 22:59 |
| Noldorin | but i don't have the foggiest where to start | 23:00 |
| Noldorin | would be great if there were some instructions for loggerhead on iis :) | 23:00 |
| Noldorin | i found an online memo from over a year ago saying there were plans... | 23:00 |
| Noldorin | seems nothing has materialised though | 23:00 |
| Peng | I'm even more sleepy now than I was last time you were discussing IIS. :P | 23:01 |
| Noldorin | Peng: :P | 23:05 |
| zsquareplusc | is it possible to "pull" again when branched from a svn repo? that is, i have a branched from a svn repo, this worked, but bzr pull says "not a branch" so i dont know how to follow the svn server for updates | 23:06 |
| Noldorin | not sure how i got back onto this track lol | 23:06 |
| Noldorin | i meant to abandon it a week ago | 23:06 |
| Noldorin | was tempted to port loggerhead to asp.net if anything :P | 23:06 |
| Noldorin | but that's almost as crazy an idea | 23:06 |
| Noldorin | so meh | 23:06 |
| Noldorin | i'm off now anyway | 23:06 |
| Noldorin | thanks anyway | 23:06 |
| Noldorin | bb | 23:07 |
| Peng | zsquareplusc: Something is wrong if it's saying "Not a branch". | 23:07 |
| zsquareplusc | well it probably looks for a bzr repo, but its an svn server | 23:07 |
| Peng | zsquareplusc: Yes, but if you branched, you have a bzr branch. | 23:10 |
| Peng | zsquareplusc: Wait wait. I misunderstood. | 23:10 |
| Peng | zsquareplusc: I thought you meant it was saying your local branch was not a branch, not the remote URL. | 23:11 |
| zsquareplusc | yes thats right. bzr branch from a svn repo creates a bzr brnach with the full history | 23:11 |
| Peng | I should log off of IRC when I'm this tired. | 23:11 |
| zsquareplusc | i was able to make local changes in bzr and i was able to push to the svn server. | 23:12 |
| zsquareplusc | but now the svn servers has new revisions and i'd like to upgrade my bzr branch with these | 23:12 |
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