[03:43] <spO> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/440233   <-- this is why ati sucks, I haven't been able to play 1080p movies since karmic fresh install
[03:43] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 440233 in fglrx-installer "fglrx fails at startup because of missing amdpcsdb.default + removal leaves bad settings in Xorg.conf" [High,Confirmed]
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[03:58] <superm1> spO, do you have a reliable way to reproduce that bug from a fresh install?
[03:58] <spO> yes
[03:58] <spO> use 3000-3999 ati series card
[03:58] <spO> install karmic
[03:58] <superm1> i've seen it reported a few times, but people tend to be messing with their systems
[03:59] <spO> enable fglrx
[03:59] <spO> done
[03:59] <spO> it is a bug for only 3000-3999 series cards
[03:59] <superm1> i would tend to believe that's not all there is to reproducing it otherwise everyoen would reproduce it
[03:59] <superm1> a missing conf file only on certain hardware?
[03:59] <superm1> that's ridiculous
[03:59] <spO> nope
[04:00] <superm1> being incompatible with hardware, that's a different bug
[04:00] <spO> everyone can reproduce it , they mostly do not enable fglrx like i do
[04:00] <superm1> well how are you enabling it?
[04:00] <superm1> that's exactly what i'm getting at, we don't have an EXACT scenario to reproduce it
[04:03] <spO> i gave you the exact one okay
[04:03] <spO> i can enable it via xwindows or through the driver via download amd site
[04:05] <spO> i will try something again
[04:05] <spO> but i doubt it will work
[04:05] <spO> okay
[04:05] <spO> if it makes you happy
[04:06] <spO> superm1, look at this
[04:06] <spO> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bugs
[04:06] <spO> that suggests that everyone else does have it
[04:06] <spO> not just a few
[04:06] <spO> understand?
[04:06] <spO> thanks for driving through
[04:07] <superm1> i'm glad to help debug this problem, I just need a set of reproducible steps that I can run through to evaluate what causes it
[04:07] <superm1> and that list of bugs just suggests that there are a lot of people with bugs
[04:07] <superm1> not a lot of people who are missing amdpcsdb.default
[04:08] <spO> fine
[04:08] <spO> i will in a few days
[04:08] <spO> my system is doing something right now and i rather not reboot
[04:23] <spO> http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1843314.html
[04:26] <superm1> which still doesn't give a scenario to reproduce it
[04:29] <spO> superm1, maybe i hate you maybe i don't
[04:29] <spO> what should it be?
[04:30] <superm1> 1) install karmic.  2) touch file X, Y, Z. 3) install package A,B 4) install fglrx using hardware drivers tool
[04:30] <superm1> or maybe:
[04:30] <superm1> 1) install karmic.  2) touch file X, Y, Z. 3) install package A,B 4) install fglrx version D.E.F from AMD website
[04:30] <spO> i guessi can install karmic on a flash drive?
[04:31] <spO> i dont' really want to do a fresh install like this url suggests
[04:31] <spO> what do you think?
[04:31] <superm1> you are able to, just make sure that you pick the right device to install the boot loader to in the advanced dialog at the end
[04:31] <spO> how big does it have to be at least ?
[04:31] <spO> 2gb?
[04:31] <superm1> it will default to your first BIOS drive usually, which can cause some weird stuff for you
[04:31] <superm1> not sure these days what the minimum is
[04:31] <superm1> worst comes to worst, it will fill up and not work
[14:15] <Cur5ed> Hello all, I am running Intrepid amd64 in low graphics mode, I get an error at startup saying "intel(0): No valid modes". Is this a problem in xorg.conf or a bug in intel driver or what?
[17:44] <Cur5e> When I get an error in Xorg saying "intel(0): No valid modes" does this mean a problem in xorg.conf or a problem in intel driver itself??
[20:05] <mac_v> hmm , anyone know how to disable KMS in kernel .32 ?
[20:05] <mac_v> for ATI
[20:07] <bryce> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[20:16] <Sarvatt> what package is xcb proto in? dont see an x11proto-* for it
[20:16] <Sarvatt> oh wow I'm slow, xcb-proto it is :D
[20:17] <bryce> xcb-proto yeag
[20:17] <bryce> weird, wonder why that's named differently
[20:22] <Sarvatt> need xcb-proto 1.6 and libxcb 1.5 from unstable to build xvmc support for intel now :(
[20:22] <Sarvatt> source format 3, go figure
[20:22] <Sarvatt> cant sync it
[20:25] <jcristau> bryce: it's named differently because it's unrelated
[20:26] <bryce> jcristau, unrelated?
[20:27] <jcristau> it's not the C protocol headers for a specific extension
[20:27] <jcristau> it's xml descriptions for the protocol
[20:27] <bryce> ah
[20:27] <jcristau> sort of related since it's all X11, but still
[20:51] <Sarvatt> got a patch to make evtouch compile fine against xserver 1.7/1.8, http://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/901_xserver_1_7_fix.patch
[20:52] <Sarvatt> no clue if things work though, nothing to test it on. uploaded it to edgers though
[22:39] <Sarvatt> would something like this work for an xserver-xorg-input-joystick udev rule? http://sarvatt.com/downloads/joystick_rules.txt
[22:45] <Sarvatt> i have no clue how they work, just saw there was a ID_INPUT_JOYSTICK in 60-persistent-input.rules and copied the stuff out of the old fdi using the synaptics udev rule as a template