[19:38] <mwhudson> happy new wekk, #launchpad-dev
[19:56] <ajmitch> yay, monday?
[20:12] <thumper> morning
[20:17] <mwhudson> jelmer: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~samba-team/samba/trunk <- you fixed this bug in bzr-git trunk already didn't you?
[20:35] <matgeek> thumper: Matthew here.  It would be good to meet sometime before Xmas.
[20:35] <mwhudson> code team lpnet errors for 2009-12-05 00:00:00
[20:35] <thumper> matgeek: yeah, sure
[20:36] <mwhudson> looks a lot like a checkwatches oops report
[20:36] <thumper> mwhudson: yeah, I emailed matsubara about it :)
[20:36] <thumper> mwhudson: ready for a call?
[20:36] <mwhudson> thumper: one sec
[20:37] <matgeek> thumper: Could I please phone you?
[20:39] <mwhudson> thumper: ready when you are?
[20:59] <jml> good morning Launchpadders
[20:59] <wgrant> jml: You're back on the right side of the world again?
[21:00] <jml> indeed I am
[21:00] <jml> wgrant, in fact, I am southier than you are
[21:01] <wgrant> jml: Aha.
[21:01] <jml> (although not as far south as thumper, who is southest)
[21:01] <ajmitch> not really much to the south of here, really
[21:01] <jml> ajmitch, there's Invercargill
[21:02] <jml> ajmitch, and Gorrrrrrrrrrre
[21:02] <ajmitch> again, not really much to the south of here, really :)
[21:02] <jml> heh heh
[21:02] <jml> do you want to know one of the best things about working in Australia?
[21:03] <jml> less than 20 emails on Monday morning
[21:03] <ajmitch> and friday comes around sooner than for most
[21:04] <maxb> wgrant: I've just updated my first machine to lucid, I expect I'll be joining with you in filling the PPA soonish :-)
[21:04] <wgrant> maxb: It works fine, except for the setuptools issue.
[21:05] <wgrant> maxb: And I need to retry bootstrapping now that I know how to fix that.
[21:06] <thumper> mwhudson: http://christophe.delord.free.fr/tpg/
[21:12] <jml> thumper, good morning.
[21:12] <thumper> jml: morning
[21:14] <maxb> wgrant: What pulls in the need for egenix-mx-base ?
[21:15] <wgrant> maxb: psycopg2
[21:16] <wgrant> maxb: It specifically wants mxdatetime.
[21:17] <mwhudson> how quaint
[21:17] <maxb> lack-of-dependency suckage :-(
[21:19] <maxb> wgrant: I've copied the full content of wgrant/launchpad to launchpad/ppa, and am proceding with a rebuild of pysvn targetted at launchpad/ppa
[21:20] <wgrant> maxb: Thanks.
[21:20] <wgrant> I haven't run the full test suite, but at least 'make run' and Soyuz stuff works.
[21:20] <maxb> or at least, I will be, once I manage to get the builddeps installed for a test build locally
[21:21] <wgrant> Hopefully there will be no crazily obscure issues like there were for Karmic.
[21:22] <jml> mwhudson, hello to you also
[21:22] <mwhudson> jml: hello
[21:24] <mwhudson> oh man, pysvn is made of sad
[21:24] <wgrant> mwhudson: It sucks.
[21:25] <wgrant> Particularly when you have to grep through svn source to work out what the numeric error codes mean... aarrrrrrrgh
[21:26] <mwhudson> jml: how was your trip?
[21:26] <jml> mwhudson, economical.
[21:27] <mwhudson> jml: heh
[21:28] <mwhudson> jml: we should talk at some point i think, but possibly not right now
[21:28] <jml> mwhudson, ok
[21:29] <jml> mwhudson, I'll be unavailable from 12-1 your time
[21:29] <jml> mwhudson, but other than that, should be good.
[21:29] <mwhudson> jml: after that then maybe?
[21:29] <jml> mwhudson, yeah, that'll work.
[21:29] <mwhudson> cool
[21:29] <jml> mwhudson, I'm still resolving lunch plans with a plan-allergic friend
[21:30] <maxb> Oh, *gah*. pysvn is the hard one
[21:30] <jml> mwhudson, but sucks to him for not promises
[21:30] <wgrant> maxb: What's wrong with it?
[21:30] <mwhudson> so, random ubuntu user question: there is a thing (gnome-gpg?) that remembers my gpg passphrase for a while
[21:30] <maxb> it's the one I had to do sourceful changes to
[21:30] <mwhudson> how do i control how long it remembers it for?
[21:30] <wgrant> mwhudson: Probably seahorse.
[21:30] <mwhudson> jml: well, i have no plans for today, so "sometime later" is perfectly fine
[21:32] <jml> mwhudson, cool.
[21:34] <wgrant> mwhudson: System->Preferences->Encryption and Keyrings, PGP Passphrases tab.
[21:35] <mwhudson> wgrant: i don't have "Encryption and Keyrings" :(
[21:36] <wgrant> mwhudson: Tried running seahorse-preferences?
[21:36] <mwhudson> not installed, it seems...
[21:36] <wgrant> mwhudson: Maybe it's not seahorse-agent that you're using, then.
[21:36] <ajmitch> encryption & preferences is most likely installed by default on karmic
[21:37] <mwhudson> mm
[21:37] <ajmitch> or maybe it's a holdover from the jaunty upgrade
[21:37] <mwhudson> i lost something in this area on the upgrade from jaunty
[21:37] <wgrant> mwhudson: Are there any *-agent processes running?
[21:37] <mwhudson> anyway, seahorse-plugins is now installed, we'll see what happens next time i log out i guess...
[21:38] <mwhudson> wgrant: gpg-agent is running
[21:38] <wgrant> mwhudson: Ah.
[21:38] <wgrant> Not sure about how to configure that one.
[21:41] <mwhudson> ah well, need to reboot after a kernel update anyway
[21:41] <mwhudson> brb
[21:56] <jml> organizing documents is hard.
[21:56] <lifeless> amen
[21:56] <lifeless> so we shouldn't do it
[22:01] <jml> I think I spot a flaw in your logic.
[22:07] <wgrant> There were reports of the weekend of some even less desirable users.
[22:08] <wgrant> s/of/over/
[22:08] <wgrant> I believe feedback@ was emailed about them, but I'm not sure.
[22:08] <wgrant> eg https://edge.launchpad.net/~staiaheat
[22:09] <lifeless> jml: logic?
[22:09] <lifeless> muhahaha
[22:22] <thumper> mwhudson: I've created lp.code.errors
[22:23] <mwhudson> thumper: woo
[22:23] <thumper> mwhudson: I've only put in the bmp ones for now
[22:23] <thumper> mwhudson: there is a little fallout
[22:23] <thumper> mwhudson: but not too much
[22:24] <mwhudson> thumper: yeah, doing it gradually makes sesne
[22:25] <jml> thumper, yay
[22:25] <thumper> I'd like to have things alphabetically where it makes sense
[22:25] <thumper> but we have one case of a subclass
[22:25] <thumper> and that makes it look less pretty
[22:25] <thumper> :(
[22:27] <jelmer> mwhudson, hey
[22:27] <jelmer> mwhudson, yeah, that should be fixed in trunk
[22:27] <mwhudson> jelmer: hi
[22:27] <mwhudson> jelmer: do you want to work on getting the fix into launchpad?
[22:28] <mwhudson> it needs to be pqm-submit-ed to ~launchpad-pqm/bzr-git/trunk and then a change to utilities/sourcedeps.conf landed on launchpad
[22:29] <mwhudson> jelmer: how many imports will this affect, do you think we should cherry pick it?
[22:29] <mwhudson> (bearing in mind this is only a two week long cycle)
[22:30] <jelmer> mwhudson: Yeah, it would help for other things as well
[22:31] <jelmer> mwhudson: I wasn't aware that being a launchpad team member implied having to do work :-)
[22:31] <mwhudson> jelmer: it doesn'
[22:31] <mwhudson> t, i can do it too
[22:32] <mwhudson> but i wouldn't mind you suffering a little for bzr-git bugs i guess :-)
[22:32] <jelmer> >-)
[22:32] <jelmer> before when is this due?
[22:34] <thumper> jelmer: last thursday :)
[22:39] <mwhudson> lol
[22:45] <maxb> 16 hour build queue on the PPAs !
[22:45] <maxb> ouch
[22:45] <maxb> guess we're not getting our lucidized pysvn tonight
[22:46] <wgrant> jelmer could have rescored it :(
[22:49] <maxb> jelmer: Do you suppose you could rescore the pending builds in https://edge.launchpad.net/~launchpad/+archive/ppa/+packages ?
[22:50] <maxb> pysvn/{i386,amd64}
[22:50]  * maxb afk ---> drive to London
[22:50] <thumper> is that an abuse of power?
[22:50] <maxb> well, slightly :-)
[22:51] <jelmer> maxb: Sorry perhaps after I'm more familiar with the system
[22:55] <jelmer> thumper: Ah, hmm
[23:02] <thumper> jml: when you first write the "land" command for our ec2 util script I thought it was stupid
[23:03] <thumper> jml: and now I use it every day
[23:03] <thumper> (almost0
[23:03] <jml> thumper, thank you, I guess :)
[23:04] <thumper> jml: thanks for writing it, it makes things less error prone
[23:04] <thumper> jml: like landing onto devel vs db-devel et al
[23:06]  * jml afk for a bit
[23:17] <mwhudson> what is bug q&a ?
[23:19]  * thumper shrugs
[23:19] <thumper> questions and answers?
[23:25]  * mwhudson lunches
[23:31] <poolie> hello thumper, mwhudson
[23:32] <thumper> hi poolie
[23:36] <spm> maxb: power abused. rescored.
[23:44] <thumper> hmm....
[23:45] <thumper> I wonder what would happen if LP got an email from a team email address
[23:45]  * thumper looks at the code