[09:52] <thorwil> mac_v: are you sure https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/HumanityIcons is the right place?
[09:52] <mac_v> thorwil: damn you are fast ;)
[09:52] <mac_v> yup
[09:52] <thorwil> mac_v: Breathe is only at the top level because of ... historical reasons
[09:52] <mac_v> thorwil: similar to breathe
[09:52] <thorwil> should actually be in Incoming
[09:53] <mac_v> thorwil: why is breathe allowed and not others? [just curious]
[09:53] <mac_v> thorwil: hmm , well this isnt just for Lucid or an incoming concept
[09:53] <thorwil> mac_v: it was put there before i cleaned up the wiki
[09:54] <thorwil> mac_v: it has been linked to several time and it has sub-pages
[09:54] <thorwil> mac_v: stuff not just for a single release does belong in Incoming
[09:55] <mac_v> thorwil: BTW , as this is the default icon theme it could be at the same level as breathe , and the more important reason is I want to get the panel icons more importance , and that page is more often viewed
[09:55] <mac_v> symbolic icons rather *
[09:57] <mac_v> thorwil: a lot of work[artwork/code/patch apps] needs to be done for the panel icons so it would be better if it was there
[09:57] <thorwil> mac_v: sure. and if anyone else has an icon theme to add, he will see 2 there already and put his right next to theme. goodbye wiki rules
[09:58] <mac_v> thorwil: if you are moving breathe to incoming too  , that would be good with me too  :) ... but until its a bit weird that the default icon theme does not get a place there ;)
[09:59] <thorwil> if someone else but you or Ken added that page, i would have moved it already
[10:00] <mac_v> thorwil: yeah , i mention to you ahead , but you were not online :)
[10:00] <thorwil> mac_v: i would really love to discuss that again with ckontros ;p
[10:00] <mac_v> i wanted to*
[10:00] <mac_v> thorwil: until then could we leave Humanity there too . PLS :)
[10:01] <thorwil> mac_v: i won't touch it. which doesn't mean i'm at all happy with it
[10:02] <mac_v> thorwil: cool. thanks...
[10:02]  * mac_v afraid of thorwil's wrath ;p
[10:18] <thorwil> mac_v: "Humanity is more than just art, it's design" makes me cringe. you simply shouldn't have to say something like this
[10:20] <thorwil> mac_v: "Humanity is about Usability"; would be much better to replace Usability with a less wide and often misunderstood term
[10:33] <mac_v> thorwil: hehe , i just copied that from the previous humanity page :)
[10:34] <mac_v> that page needs better intro/description
[10:47] <Equiet> Hi. I have done a mockup for my new theme. http://i49.tinypic.com/o0sadd.jpg What do you think?
[10:56] <Equiet> Nothing? Hm. :(
[11:22] <mac_v> Equiet: nice , looks interesting...
[11:25] <mac_v> Equiet: this channel is actually often quiet , users are logged in always but chat is rare ;)
[11:40] <Equiet> How can the theme get into a official release?
[11:58] <mac_v> Equiet: you can add the theme to > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid  , that doesnt necessarily get it into the official release though , if others like it , it would be considered in the community package
[11:59] <mac_v> Equiet: also drop a mail to the artwork mailing list that you have added a new theme
[12:11] <thorwil> hi ckontros! Breathe now has company in the form of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/HumanityIcons
[12:13] <mac_v> DanRabbit: can you improve the concept and the intro.. i just copied most of it from your previous wiki page
[12:14] <ckontros> thorwil: Yep
[12:33] <ckontros> Goodness. The. Wiki. Is. Slow.
[12:34] <thorwil> has it ever been fast?
[12:35] <ckontros> I know, I know. Just seems extra slow when I'm trying to quickly edit things.
[16:33] <DanRabbit> mac_v: no problem I won't have a lot of time today, but I'll work on it :D
[16:34] <mac_v> DanRabbit: hehe , ok... i started the symbolic icons guidelines and got side-tracked too ;)
[16:37] <DanRabbit> awesome
[17:05] <snubby> sup folks
[17:05]  * snubby tips hat
[18:00] <ckontros> snubby: Hello. FYI, the weekends can be pretty quiet in here. Most activity is during EU working hours.
[18:24] <Equiet> Well, is there any stuff you think I could help with?
[18:34] <ckontros> Equiet: If I knew your qualifications, I could better say. Though its best to look over the mailing list and see what projects are active. Makin' wallpapers is also an easy place to start.
[18:38] <Equiet> Ok, I'll try it, maybe I'll finally know how to make something other than gradient in Gimp. :)
[18:39] <Equiet> But, in general, I am webdesigner/webdeveloper and probably I have the feel for UIs.
[18:43] <mac_v> thorwil: do you want a google wave invite?
[18:44] <thorwil> mac_v: already have an account, but thanks! ;)
[18:44] <mac_v> thorwil: lol , ok... just thought you didnt , since you mentioned you saw how it works only from the site :)
[18:44] <mac_v> the article rather*
[18:45]  * mac_v just received invites today :)
[18:45] <mac_v> invitations*
[18:48]  * SiDi still didnt begin using his account.
[18:49]  * Equiet got an invitation, but it doesn't work in Opera.
[18:59] <Equiet> For wallpapers, you prefer more abstract submissions, right?
[20:01] <mac_v> Equiet: maybe you could do some mockups  , for this too > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter
[20:01] <mac_v> since you mentioned UI
[20:04] <Equiet> Wow, there is a lot to read. But thanks, I will try it. :)
[20:07] <Equiet> Btw, are the wallpapers for alpha releases already done?
[20:09] <mac_v> Equiet: kwwii  would know about that
[20:09] <mac_v> Equiet: BTW , you dont have to read the whole page , but just the green sections marked for artists and designers ;)