| jdong | hmm, BFS is actually noticeably more responsive... | 00:56 |
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| jdong | heh of course I only have 1 and 2 core machines and gut feeling to back that up | 00:56 |
| ion | BFS? | 00:57 |
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| matgeek | thumper: notice you are doing miniconf at linuxconf. I am seriously thinking of coming along. Is there anything I can do to help you out? How about an account of using launchpad as a Debian Developer? I am moving to get one of my packages on it this week. | 02:04 |
| ScottK | Is there an archive admin in the house? | 03:39 |
| ScottK | odbcinst is a new binary (split out from odbcinst1debian1) that landed in Universe. | 03:41 |
| ScottK | So now the -dev package is uninstallable on the buildds | 03:41 |
| ScottK | (for main uploads) | 03:43 |
| * ScottK plays archive admin roulette and asks if StevenK might be around to help out? | 03:43 | |
| * StevenK lunges for cocoplum | 03:44 | |
| ScottK | StevenK: Thanks. | 03:45 |
| StevenK | ScottK: Done. | 03:52 |
| ScottK | StevenK: Thanks again. Got it in before the publisher run even. | 03:52 |
| StevenK | ScottK: That was my plan | 03:55 |
| ScottK | Good plan that. | 03:55 |
| diwic | I'm trying to git pull, but it claims that my working tree is not up-to-date | 04:26 |
| diwic | It complains about files I haven't changed, at least not on purpose. | 04:26 |
| diwic | What is the easiest way to resolve that issue? | 04:26 |
| maco | diwic: try "git stash ; git pull ; git stash apply" ? | 04:26 |
| diwic | maco: stash, that was a new one :-) | 04:27 |
| maco | diwic: it stashes all your changes elsewhere so you can pull as if it were a clean tree | 04:28 |
| maco | did it work? | 04:28 |
| diwic | yes, thanks :-) | 04:28 |
| maco | yay! | 04:28 |
| maco | i had to learn that yesterday when i got too behind on pulling at work | 04:28 |
| diwic | I'm not going to do the apply part though | 04:29 |
| maco | ok | 04:29 |
| diwic | oh, next problem | 04:30 |
| diwic | pristine-tar: There's no local pristine-tar branch. Several remote pristine-tar branches exist. | 04:30 |
| diwic | Run "git branch --track pristine-tar <remote>" to create a local pristine-tar branch | 04:31 |
| diwic | maco: I remember you saying quilt was the most difficult part of becoming MOTU, but I must say git is three times harder | 04:32 |
| maco | diwic: most motu dont have to deal with git... | 04:34 |
| maco | diwic: just us weirdos who touch kernely thingies | 04:34 |
| diwic | maco: perhaps you're right. This is actually debian work | 04:34 |
| maco | ive never used pristine-tar thouhg | 04:34 |
| maco | *though | 04:34 |
| diwic | maco: perhaps it is Linus's way of keeping amateurs away from the kernel. ;-) | 04:36 |
| maco | diwic: my boss was watching me trying to use git yesterday and going "wish we could go back to ___" and named something older than CVS that is apparently found on mainframes | 04:36 |
| jdong | older than RCS? | 04:37 |
| jdong | SCCS? | 04:37 |
| jdong | the former doesn't follow from the latter. | 04:37 |
| diwic | maco: we use a serial VCS at work and it actually works pretty well. | 04:38 |
| StevenK | I thought they just paid to keep the programmers in cold storage along with the mainframes | 04:38 |
| spO | does changing my gcc version matter with regard to the kernel? IE, i can do it and it is not a big deal? | 04:38 |
| maco | jdong: possibly RCS | 04:38 |
| ebroder | maco: RCS isn't that old. The sipb.mit.edu AFS cell has way too much RCS in it. It's really sad | 04:39 |
| jdong | RCS is still cool in some ways :) | 04:39 |
| ebroder | Actually...that second sentence didn't follow from the first | 04:39 |
| maco | ebroder: i work for a company that does stuff on afs, so this makes sense coming from my boss | 04:39 |
| jdong | namely if you're trapped on a FreeBSD system... | 04:39 |
| jdong | that seems to be the scenario for all vintage tools :) | 04:39 |
| ebroder | Yeah, I'm told the sipb cell still have a copy of iexplore for Sun lying around somewhere. Ugh | 04:40 |
| mneptok | foxbuntu: ping | 06:50 |
| foxbuntu | mneptok, pong | 06:53 |
| mneptok | foxbuntu: could you join #ubuntu-ops for a moment, please? | 06:54 |
| foxbuntu | mneptok, sure. | 06:54 |
| mneptok | thanks! | 06:55 |
| lifeless | `/win 41 | 06:56 |
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| OC1 | hi everybody | 09:16 |
| OC1 | is there anyone who can read me :( | 09:17 |
| OC1 | do u hear me :( | 09:18 |
| micahg | OC1: how can we help you? | 09:18 |
| OC1 | hi micahg | 09:18 |
| OC1 | I am new in ubuntu | 09:19 |
| OC1 | I install ubuntu 9.1 | 09:19 |
| OC1 | but I can't update my system | 09:19 |
| micahg | OC1: #ubuntu is for support | 09:19 |
| OC1 | thank you | 09:19 |
| micahg | OC1: good luck | 09:19 |
| OC1 | see u | 09:20 |
| juliank | Is it normal that a NEW package (libslab in its own source package) available in Debian testing since Oct 22 is still not available in lucid? | 12:56 |
| slacker_nl | who should I notify if packages.u.c is down? | 13:08 |
| tsimpson | slacker_nl: try #canonical-sysadmin | 13:15 |
| slacker_nl | thnx | 13:15 |
| cjwatson | juliank: it's on the list, but it requires manual attention because it produces binaries that override binaries from a different source package that's modified in Ubuntu | 13:23 |
| cjwatson | E: libslab is trying to override libslab-dev_0.9.12+dfsg-0ubuntu4 without -f/--force. | 13:23 |
| juliank | cjwatson: Actually, gnome-main-menu (which previously contained libslab) should be synced as well. | 13:24 |
| cjwatson | juliank: that's fine, but we don't take these requests by IRC :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess | 13:25 |
| cjwatson | if you (or somebody) file a bug and subscribe ubuntu-archive to it, it'll be processed | 13:25 |
| juliank | cjwatson: I just said this because I wanted to wait for libslab before renaming https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-main-menu/+bug/428860 to a sync request. So it seems the gnome-main-menu sync must come first, and then libslab (gnome-main-menu depends on libslab, so this seems a bit strange)? | 13:27 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 428860 in gnome-main-menu "Please update gnome-main-menu to 0.9.13" [Undecided,Fix released] | 13:27 |
| cjwatson | juliank: please file a bug about libslab, then | 13:27 |
| cjwatson | the gnome-main-menu sync doesn't have to come first; but the archive admins are not in a position to review every package in this state, so we rely on bugs | 13:27 |
| slacker_nl | hi all, got a problem with apt, debsums apt reports: missing file /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.10-6.so.4.8.1 (from apt package) | 13:28 |
| juliank | cjwatson: The libslab sync request was stopped by ubuntu-universe-sponsors because we are before import freeze (it is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/428968) | 13:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 428968 in ubuntu "Sync libslab 2.27.91-1 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,Invalid] | 13:28 |
| cjwatson | juliank: they were wrong. sorry about that. | 13:29 |
| cjwatson | please reopen it and feel free to quote me. the sync won't happen (semi-)automatically because it overrides binaries from another modified source package. | 13:29 |
| cjwatson | the required bit for sponsorship is an explicit check and statement that all changes in gnome-main-menu are no longer required. | 13:30 |
| cjwatson | there are a couple of dozen packages in this state. I should probably put the list somewhere ... | 13:32 |
| juliank | cjwatson: Why not allow the archive to contain two versions of a binary package from two different sources? This would make such syncs easier; but one would have to cleanup afterwards. | 13:33 |
| cjwatson | not going to happen, sorry :) | 13:35 |
| cjwatson | it would be pathological for users because apt will only ever use the latest one, so we don't really want to allow the archive into such a state | 13:35 |
| cjwatson | it's not a big enough problem in general for that sort of wide-ranging change to be worthwhile | 13:36 |
| juliank | cjwatson: Both bugs updated. And I guess after the sync, we should move libslab to main and rebuild gnome-control-center against it instead of its own copy. | 13:44 |
| juliank | Thanks for the information! | 13:45 |
| squirrelpimp | is packages.ubuntu.com down or deprecated? | 13:54 |
| juliank | squirrelpimp: It just seems to be down; at least there is still an IP for it. | 14:09 |
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| craigbass1976 | Is poppler something I can install, or it comes with cups? | 15:41 |
| craigbass1976 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/poppler/+bug/382379/+activity The last entry is something about lp:ubuntu/jaunty-proposed/poppler Does that mean I should see this by changing my software sources to include proposed updates? | 15:45 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 382379 in poppler "pdftops CUPS filter has several problems" [High,Fix released] | 15:45 |
| craigbass1976 | thanks ubottu, I knew that. | 15:46 |
| maxb | craigbass1976: poppler is a piece of software that cups may use, why do you ask? | 15:46 |
| craigbass1976 | I can't print pdfs, and experience what's mentioned here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/poppler/+bug/382379 | 15:48 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 382379 in poppler "pdftops CUPS filter has several problems" [High,Fix released] | 15:48 |
| craigbass1976 | I've been trying to dork with this for a couple months, but today I grabbed the woman's computer and printer and have them at my house for the day | 15:48 |
| craigbass1976 | maxb, I'm not sure how to implement the change, other than run an update | 15:49 |
| craigbass1976 | maxb, no idea? | 15:52 |
| maxb | The bug is huge, I am reading | 15:52 |
| craigbass1976 | thanks | 15:52 |
| maxb | There are no pending SRUs for cups or poppler. | 15:54 |
| maxb | -proposed is not relevant here | 15:54 |
| craigbass1976 | I'm thick... is there a fix or not? | 15:55 |
| craigbass1976 | And how do I implement it if there is. | 15:55 |
| maxb | bug 382379 is deemed fixed some time ago | 15:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 382379 in poppler "pdftops CUPS filter has several problems" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/382379 | 15:56 |
| maxb | poppler and cups have both been SRUed in jaunty multiple times since that, for other issues, apparently | 15:57 |
| craigbass1976 | I thought it looked like that; I wonder why I still have such trouble then | 15:57 |
| maxb | I would suggest trying a Karmic livecd if that is an option for you | 15:57 |
| craigbass1976 | Is there an L out yet? | 15:57 |
| maxb | pre-alpha | 15:58 |
| craigbass1976 | maxb, well, karmic is an option, but I was hoping to avoid installing a new os. Question for you... I hear tell there is some trouble upgrading to Karmic. Is there going to be the same kind of trouble upgrading out of Karmic? | 16:00 |
| craigbass1976 | This woman has so much stuff on her box that wipe/reinstalls are a wicked pita | 16:00 |
| maxb | All upgrade paths out of jaunty lead through karmic anyway | 16:04 |
| FishEatFish | hello, can someone help me with the void * type ? i don't know how to deal with an array assignement | 16:05 |
| craigbass1976 | maxb, I forget I can just throw this lappy drive in my desktop. Dumping's quick. I'll go karmic. | 16:06 |
| maxb | FishEatFish: Are you really in the right channel? | 16:06 |
| maxb | craigbass1976: Dumping? Please note that I am not unequivocally recommending karmic, I was just suggesting you try a livecd | 16:08 |
| FishEatFish | maxb : there is other channels dedicated to programming ? | 16:08 |
| maxb | FishEatFish: This isn't a channel dedicated to programming. | 16:08 |
| maxb | "Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development on Ubuntu)" | 16:09 |
| FishEatFish | ok thank you maxb i apologize | 16:09 |
| maxb | ##c might help you | 16:09 |
| FishEatFish | :) i'll go there | 16:10 |
| aburch | Is there any historic data for popcon.ubuntu.com available? | 16:21 |
| aburch | I miss the nice graph that popcon.debian.org provides, so I build a small site to generate them, but only have data for the last 10 days. | 16:22 |
| aburch | FWIW the graphs are available from ubuntu-popcon.43-1.org for now. | 16:26 |
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| === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage | ||
| yofel | hi, would bug 491483 qualify for an SRU? if gdm and kdm are installed and kdm is used, kdm and failsave-x will race against each other to start X since failsave X thinks that gdm being disabled equals X not starting up. | 18:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 491483 in xorg "after recent update which included xorg, xserver etc causes low-graphics mode error at start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491483 | 18:53 |
| craigbass1976 | Is this channel logged somewhere? I need to see what I said in here earlier | 18:59 |
| ebroder | !logs | craigbass1976 | 19:00 |
| ubottu | craigbass1976: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ | 19:00 |
| craigbass1976 | ebroder, thanks | 19:00 |
| craigbass1976 | maxb, you there? | 19:00 |
| maxb | craigbass1976: intermittently - ask and IO'll get back to you | 19:09 |
| craigbass1976 | maxb, wanted to let you knwo that karmic prints pdf no better than jaunty. | 19:10 |
| craigbass1976 | maxb, and I guess the netowrk doesn't matter; this thing suck via usb too. | 19:14 |
| maxb | craigbass1976: In that case, I think you should file a new bug | 19:17 |
| craigbass1976 | maxb, lazyart's post here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223819 has fixed my issue with the karmic livecd. Now I'll see what happens on the jaunty install. be back later.. | 19:23 |
| craigbass1976 | maxb, dude... this is retarded. use an HP laserjet foomatic driver to print to a networked brother mfc 7820N and all your troubles will go away. | 19:54 |
| craigbass1976 | maxb, and I added to the bug thread you were reading earlier. I don't know as this qualifies as part of the bug though. | 20:16 |
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| maxb | I seek a main-sponsor for a subversion merge, is anyone interested? | 21:23 |
| maxb | bug 483953 | 21:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 483953 in subversion "Merge subversion 1.6.6dfsg-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/483953 | 21:24 |
| fbond_ | Where can I read about the relationship between -updates and -security? | 22:59 |
| === fbond_ is now known as fbond | ||
| kees | fbond: does this answer it for you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Repositories | 23:02 |
| fbond | kees: Not really, I guess. What I'm wondering is, if the updates pocket has a different version of a package than the release pocket, which version is the security update based on? | 23:05 |
| fbond | kees: And when do security updates also get published to the updates pocket? | 23:11 |
| fbond | kees: I think this will help me: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration | 23:18 |
| fbond | Let me look that over for now. Thanks for your help. | 23:18 |
| fbond | kees: Okay, I understand the policy. Security updates would be based on packages in the updates pocket. But wouldn't this lead to users that don't have the updates pocket enabled getting -updates changes via -security? | 23:22 |
| kees | fbond: yes. that can happen and is accepted as the least bad of possible options. | 23:26 |
| fbond | kees: In other words, the cost of maintaining two separate security pockets would be too high? Makes sense. | 23:27 |
| kees | fbond: yeah, correct. I've updated the FAQ a bit to help clarify. | 23:29 |
| mun24 | I have a requirement where I need to wait for 2 events, if event 1 occurs then do something and if event 2 occurs then do something else. How can I achieve this. | 23:54 |
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