| ScottK | Usually it doesn't matter for the source package. | 00:01 |
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| RoAkSoAx | cemc, ping | 00:23 |
| cemc | RoAkSoAx: pong | 00:24 |
| RoAkSoAx | cemc, any luck with the fix for havp in debian ? :) | 00:25 |
| cemc | RoAkSoAx: well, not really... I opened a bugreport, and attached my patch, which I think would fix it. now it's up to the maintainer I think | 00:28 |
| RoAkSoAx | cemc, I see. well I run into an issue that I've been told to discuss with you. The issue is when purging. Here i attach it as well as the possible fix: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/335597/ | 00:30 |
| cemc | RoAkSoAx: I'm not sure this will work... I think that postrm script will have the same problem unmounting the loop file as the init script has | 00:57 |
| sachin6870 | Hi Everyone | 03:01 |
| ScottK | Hello sachin6870 | 03:01 |
| sachin6870 | Hi Scott, I want to contribute to Gnome desktop for Ubuntu | 03:01 |
| sachin6870 | I developed one gnome applet, I want it be part of ubuntu official repo | 03:02 |
| ScottK | sachin6870: Then #ubuntu-desktop is probably a better place to start. | 03:02 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 03:02 |
| ScottK | We do help with packaging here, so this might be the right place. | 03:03 |
| sachin6870 | ok thanks | 03:03 |
| sachin6870 | http://cricscoreapplet.sourceforge.net/ | 03:03 |
| sachin6870 | this is project home page | 03:03 |
| sachin6870 | Can you please help me with procedure? | 03:03 |
| ScottK | I can give you some general advice. | 03:04 |
| sachin6870 | That will be great | 03:04 |
| ScottK | I'm busy with a few other things tonight, so I don't have time for detailed assitance. | 03:04 |
| ScottK | !revu | sachin6870 | 03:04 |
| ubottu | sachin6870: REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 03:04 |
| sachin6870 | no problem. | 03:04 |
| ScottK | !packagingguide | sachin6870 | 03:05 |
| ubottu | sachin6870: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 03:05 |
| ScottK | Those will get you started. | 03:05 |
| sachin6870 | ok | 03:05 |
| ScottK | When you have questions, just ask them and usually if someone is around who knows the answer, they will help you. | 03:05 |
| sachin6870 | ok | 03:05 |
| sachin6870 | Thanks Scott for your valuable time. | 03:06 |
| ScottK | No problem. It's always good to see new people who want to contribute. | 03:06 |
| dtchen | so, who are my unlucky souls using Analog Devices HDA codecs? | 06:25 |
| nigel_nb | maco: how long are you gonna be up? | 06:25 |
| diwic | dtchen: sorry, HDA ATI SB here, but when you get to Realtek ALC888, count me in. | 06:26 |
| micahg | anyone have a link to the remove from archive instruction page? | 06:27 |
| dtchen | diwic: ugh, Realtek is a mindfsck in and of itself | 06:27 |
| dtchen | granted, the www.analog.com giving me crap for data sheet searches is less than useful | 06:28 |
| dtchen | ok, never ever do a hard reset and then pull into a branch :( | 06:33 |
| dtchen | I just nuked all my powerdown-analog work in one second. Thank goodness for rsync backups. | 06:33 |
| jdong | dtchen: git scares me in that sense at times. | 06:40 |
| jdong | being an incredibly powerful tool with a clunky UI, I've found it way too easy to do the wrong thing (tm) | 06:40 |
| jdong | of course I've typically been lucky enough to be in the presence of a git deity with some magic sequence of even less intuitive commands to get things back | 06:40 |
| jdong | (no pun intended) | 06:40 |
| micahg | jdong: you have the link to the package removal instruction page? | 06:41 |
| jdong | micahg: no, I do not | 06:41 |
| jmarsden | micahg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive#Removing%20Packages | 06:42 |
| jmarsden | I think! | 06:43 |
| micahg | thanks jmarsden | 06:43 |
| jmarsden | You're welcome | 06:44 |
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| damagednoob | with those motu videos on youtube (dholbach), is any of that stuff written down anywhere? | 08:27 |
| stochastic_ | can anyone point me to a good basic tutorial on building a patch with quilt? | 10:02 |
| geser | stochastic_: there is a wiki page about adding a patch with quilt | 10:23 |
| geser | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems#quilt%20%28example%20package:%20xterm%29 | 10:24 |
| stochastic_ | google found a nice explanatory pdf file after I hunted through about five other "introductions" that were more like latin than introductory. | 10:24 |
| stochastic_ | that wiki page really doesn't explain how to add a patch, it gives a one-line example as the editor, but doesn't explain itself | 10:25 |
| stochastic_ | to a beginner it's pretty useless. | 10:25 |
| * stochastic_ ended up reading this: http://www.suse.de/~agruen/quilt.pdf | 10:26 | |
| pochu | quilt is not the easiest patch system to learn, but is awesome to work with once you've learnt it | 10:42 |
| stochastic_ | pochu, so, once a quilt diff file exists in debian/patches, and is listed in debian/patches/series then what does a person need to do to ensure the patch is applied at build time? | 10:50 |
| pochu | check the build log :) | 10:50 |
| stochastic_ | lol, okay. | 10:51 |
| pochu | if the patch system was already there and you only added a new patch, it should be okay though | 10:51 |
| stochastic_ | no, there was no patch system | 10:51 |
| diwic | stochastic_: are you using cdbs, debhelper etc? | 10:55 |
| diwic | stochastic_: http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/howto/quilt.html | 10:57 |
| stochastic_ | diwic, the package uses debhelper - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/raul/0.5.1-1 | 10:57 |
| diwic | stochastic_: according to the howto I just posted you're supposed to do "dh --with quilt" in debian/rules | 10:59 |
| stochastic_ | diwic, okay, thanks. Though the rules file in that package is really strange looking. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/335808/ | 11:01 |
| diwic | stochastic_: that's normal for a debhelper 7 - just change "dh $@" to "dh --with quilt $@" | 11:02 |
| stochastic_ | diwic, ahh thanks. | 11:02 |
| diwic | stochastic_: and add dependency debhelper >= 7.0.8 (and quilt) | 11:03 |
| stochastic_ | diwic, yes I had quilt already added. debhelper needs to be >=7.0.8 though? | 11:06 |
| diwic | stochastic_: I'm just retelling the howto for you :-) | 11:06 |
| stochastic_ | ;) | 11:06 |
| * stochastic_ waits for pbuilder to update to lucid... | 11:09 | |
| pochu | 7.0.8 added the --with option | 11:09 |
| jariq | I am creating package for network daemon. Should I create sysv init script or upstart job or both ? What is the best pactice for ubuntu now ? | 11:33 |
| rjnienaber | is there anywhere on the wiki that details how to setup your system for package building? | 12:12 |
| rjnienaber | if not i could create a page | 12:12 |
| diwic | rjnienaber: sudo apt-get install build-essentials ? | 12:38 |
| rjnienaber | i was thinking something more along the lines of this: http://owlsayswoot.therandomist.com/2009/12/06/maintaining-ubuntu-package-setting-up-your-system/ | 12:39 |
| diwic | rjnienaber: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide | 12:39 |
| rjnienaber | there seems to be some detail in the video that's not on the wiki | 12:42 |
| tsimpson | it is a wiki, edit it ;) | 12:43 |
| rjnienaber | cool :) | 12:45 |
| feasty | identify beasty | 13:35 |
| feasty | oops | 13:35 |
| elky | oops would be quite correct. | 13:36 |
| feasty | :) | 13:39 |
| lfaraone | Hi, I'm building a package which depends on pandoc. When I attempt to build it with pbuilder, pbuilder co mplains that it is a virtual package and cannot continue, but synaptic says it isn't a virtual package. What gives? | 14:49 |
| tsimpson | lfaraone: make sure pbuilder is using the right release and is up to date | 15:00 |
| lfaraone | tsimpson: it's on karmic, and I just rebuilt base.tgz | 15:08 |
| randomaction | lfaraone: do you have universe enabled in your pbuilder? | 15:11 |
| lfaraone | randomaction: I didn't explictly enable it, what do I need to do/ | 15:12 |
| lfaraone | *? | 15:12 |
| randomaction | lfaraone: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Universe%20support | 15:40 |
| nigel_nb | does the bot work in here? bug 394373 | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 394373 in qalculate-kde "Inconsistent menu entries across calculator program" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394373 | 16:13 |
| nigel_nb | strange, it works | 16:13 |
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| lfaraone | Hey, would a "package cannot be removed under non english locales" be SRU-worthy? | 19:06 |
| jdong | lfaraone: sure sounds like it to me | 19:07 |
| lfaraone | jdong: mk. | 19:08 |
| kklimonda | lfaraone: you have a linl to bug report about this package? I wonder what's wrong with it :) | 19:08 |
| lfaraone | kklimonda: it's a funny bug. the daemon "stop" code checks a error message for a string rather than looking for the error code. | 19:10 |
| lfaraone | kklimonda: bug 479131. I just checked in a fix upstream which works for me, and am now going to prepare my first SRU :) | 19:11 |
| kklimonda | and update calls restart, right? | 19:11 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/479131) | 19:11 |
| lfaraone | kklimonda: yes. | 19:12 |
| kklimonda | funny | 19:13 |
| lfaraone | kklimonda: mhm. the fix is trivial (see http://code.google.com/p/autokey/source/diff?spec=svn192&r=192&format=side&path=/trunk/src/lib/daemon.py&old_path=/trunk/src/lib/daemon.py&old=73 ), but I'll have to push out a new lucid revision first, right? | 19:14 |
| kklimonda | lfaraone: well, it depends but the best way is to fix it in current development version first indeed | 19:16 |
| kklimonda | i wonder if this fix is fine | 19:17 |
| kklimonda | before err.errno is checked err is casted to string so .errno is lost | 19:17 |
| lfaraone | kklimonda: oh! right, I forgot about that. | 19:19 |
| lfaraone | Fixed in svn:193 | 19:20 |
| lfaraone | kklimonda: does that look sane? | 19:23 |
| kklimonda | yes | 19:24 |
| wrapster | while trying to install a pkg i get this erorr.."trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/logname', which is also in package coreutils | 19:36 |
| wrapster | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken Pipe | 19:37 |
| lfaraone | lintian is complaining about my DEP3-style headers (which lack "## DP:") | 19:39 |
| lfaraone | Is this a good reason to override? | 19:39 |
| dtchen | wrapster: please pastebin the entire dpkg output | 19:40 |
| dtchen | according to the 9.10 archive there is only one package that contains that file | 19:40 |
| wrapster | dtchen: http://pastie.org/730680 | 19:40 |
| dtchen | wrapster: is this nexenta? | 19:42 |
| wrapster | dtchen: yeah. | 19:42 |
| wrapster | but since it was a pkging issue i asked it here.. | 19:42 |
| wrapster | sorry if i was worng. | 19:42 |
| wrapster | but would really appreaciate if you could at least tell me where to look ? | 19:42 |
| geser | wrapster: perhaps this package should also divert /usr/bin/logname but the nexenta guys should know better than us | 19:43 |
| wrapster | geser: where are the diverts specified? and are they same as pkgname.links? file!! | 19:43 |
| wrapster | i mean do both do the same job? | 19:44 |
| kklimonda | lfaraone: you should add comment to your patch. and if you are not willing to do that don't override lintian warnings - just let them be | 19:45 |
| wrapster | geser: any idea? | 19:47 |
| dtchen | wrapster: the nexenta web site is very confusing to me | 19:58 |
| dtchen | wrapster: that source doesn't appear to be in hardy-unstable at all, either | 19:59 |
| dtchen | wrapster: but yes, what geser said is correct | 19:59 |
| dtchen | wrapster: it's probably best to approach the specific nexenta porting folks for this issue | 20:00 |
| wrapster | dtchen: ok.. thanks | 20:01 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: i'm using a proprietary display/keyboard/mouse/audio peripheral from NComputing, and sound works under Gnome but not Sugar. What should I do to go about debugging it? | 20:03 |
| dtchen | you lost me at proprietary | 20:04 |
| dtchen | anyhow -- start with http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh | 20:05 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: yeah, it pains me too. for some reason the company that produces them is worried that if they FOSS their software then people will make cheap knockoffs of their peripherals. | 20:07 |
| dtchen | not my concern, really, but lack of source makes it difficult to point out bugs in the audio source code, yadda yadda | 20:07 |
| dtchen | wow, there really is a crackton of broken HDA controllers | 20:08 |
| dtchen | maybe we should just invert this list and make everything use position_fix=1 | 20:09 |
| ajmitch | you can bet that will bring its own set of problems | 20:10 |
| dtchen | oh of course | 20:10 |
| * ajmitch gets the impression there's no silver bullet to fix this | 20:10 | |
| dtchen | if there's anything I've learned, it's that any action will break some non-trivial, very vocal portion of the userbase | 20:11 |
| ajmitch | maybe some garlic & stakes through the heart of HDA | 20:11 |
| dtchen | nah, just through that of the OEMs | 20:12 |
| ajmitch | that'd be more fun | 20:13 |
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