[03:46] <dmfrey> hey everyone, got a graphics issue I am trying to work out
[03:46] <dmfrey> i am running 9.10
[03:47] <dmfrey> it is on a GeForce 8400 running vdpau-normal with the 190 nvidia driver
[03:48] <dmfrey> HD looks great, except it is letterboxed, not full screen
[03:49] <dmfrey> SD aspect ratio appears correct, except it has about a 2 inch pillar box on each side, instead of the normal black sidebars
[03:50] <dmfrey> i have been all over the playback settings
[03:50] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, thats just a setting in the frontend, I think in the playback settings
[03:51] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: that's what I thought, I was messing with the auto fill and zooming, but the picture then looks distorted
[03:53] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, I am using a very similar video card...
[03:53] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: are you seeing the same types of issues?
[03:54] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, no, my SD content has the normal black sidebars to compensate for the 4:3 on 16:9 screen
[03:54] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, is that what you are seeing or am I missing something?
[03:55] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: no, the sidebars are not normal...very small, only about 2-3 inches on either side
[03:55] <dmfrey> the tv is a 56 toshiba dlp
[03:55] <dmfrey> so those black bars are pretty tiny on that screen
[03:56] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: btw...this was normal in 9.04
[03:56] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, it can be smaller depending on the resolution you are recording at, or your playback resolution, or the TV, or the TV signal (cable/sat/OTA)
[03:57] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, well, some huge changes happened between 9.04 -> 9.10
[03:57] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, there are allot of factors...
[03:57] <dmfrey> it is the same for firewire recording or qam off of pchdtv 5500
[03:58] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, what resolution are you running at?
[03:59] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, also what type of connection are you using to the TV?
[03:59] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: 1080i/dvi
[03:59] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, no the actual resolution on the myth system
[03:59] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: it is offset to compensate for overscan
[04:00] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: one sec, let me bring it up
[04:00] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, is it str8 through DVI? or DVI -> HDMI?
[04:00] <dmfrey> dvi -> hdmi
[04:02] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, does the video look distorted with the smaller bars?
[04:03] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: it is maybe stretched a little
[04:04] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: one more thing...the menu looks appropriate on the screen, this only affect playback
[04:05] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: i am looking at the general playback menu now
[04:05] <dmfrey> page 2
[04:05] <dmfrey> video aspect override is off and zoom is auto detect (default off)
[04:06] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, I would set zoom off
[04:06] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, but thats not the issue
[04:07] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, I think rather than a 16:9 resolution like 1920x1080, your system is running a 16:10 resolution, many TVs do support 16:10
[04:07] <foxbuntu> 16:10 would be like 1920x1200
[04:08] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: let me check my xorg.log
[04:08] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, alright
[04:09] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: if that is the case, i am not sure why this card is now detecting it at 16:10, never did it with 9.04 and before
[04:10] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, probably the new driver
[04:10] <dmfrey> it was the same with the 185 driver, i upgraded it 190 to see if it would fix the issue
[04:11] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, you likely were using the 173 driver in 9.04 though
[04:11] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1080
[04:12] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, hmm...well that answers that
[04:13] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: i had to use the screen adjustment wizard to adjust for overscan for the menus
[04:14] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, that could be part of it
[04:14] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: i saw that the checkbox was enabled to use the new size for video playback
[04:14] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: disabled it, but the problem perists
[04:15] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, Im not sure, I just deal with the overscan on mine, although it is not too bad
[04:15] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: did you enable the separate video modes for gui and tv playback?
[04:16] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, no
[04:16] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, did you?
[04:17] <dmfrey> no
[04:17] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, you might try it
[04:18] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: what about your button font size? I notice when a popup appears, the button face font size is too tiny to read
[04:18] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: I think this is all related somehow
[04:18]  * foxbuntu is seriously procrastinating his work...and is way behind on completing it
[04:19] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, all the text on my system is readable
[04:19] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, are you using the mythbuntu theme?
[04:19] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: yes
[04:19] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, system all up-to-date?
[04:20] <dmfrey> looks like there are a few updates out there that just came down in the last day...i usually keep it up to date all the time
[04:20] <dmfrey> this is a dist-upgrade
[04:21] <dmfrey> it is recording right now, so can't do the upgrade and reboot
[04:30] <dmfrey> foxbuntu: thanks for your help, i am gonna turn in for the night
[04:30] <foxbuntu> dmfrey, np
[05:20] <Demerzel> hello folks
[05:21] <Demerzel> anyone here having any issues with mythbuntu diskless images?
[05:21] <Demerzel> i updated the image to include the latest kernel and that seems to have killed it
[05:21] <Demerzel> dies before even mounting root
[05:23] <wildo3ne> can someone help me increase my dpi on my font? current reading is 46dpi and so nothing is readable when bringing up menus in myth
[05:28] <Demerzel> wildo3ne: what distro are you using?
[05:28] <Demerzel> oh heh i'm assuming you're using mythbuntu ... what version?
[05:29] <wildo3ne> yeah mythbuntu current version, downloaded last night
[05:30] <Demerzel> ah ok
[05:30] <Demerzel> i just looked on the forums for dpi
[05:30] <Demerzel> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/302667
[05:30] <Demerzel> that might help
[05:30] <Demerzel> /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[05:30] <Demerzel> might need to change the dpi there or remove it altogether
[05:39] <wildo3ne> tried your advice demerzel, but I don't have any of those config files
[05:42] <Demerzel> hmmm
[05:42] <Demerzel> any mention of dpi in /var/log/Xorg.log?
[05:42] <Demerzel> it might mention where it's picking it up from
[05:44] <Shadow__X> rhpot1991: where should i submit the bug
[05:54] <wildo3ne> sorry no, does it help to mention my video is vga out on intel 845 chipset?
[05:54] <wildo3ne> its an older p4 2.0 gig running in a mini itx asus system
[07:08] <foxbuntu> !log%
[07:08] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[07:08] <foxbuntu> !status
[07:08] <Zinn> I am alive.
[07:08] <foxbuntu> !help
[07:08] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[13:31] <BjornR1989> !motd
[13:31] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about motd
[13:31] <BjornR1989> !help motd
[13:31] <Zinn> !help motd For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[16:57] <olejl1> Every time I restart my computer the MythTV database settings are displayed. How can I avoid this? If I close the database setup and start Mythfrontend from Application->Multimedia->MythTV Frontend it is OK.
[17:11] <olejl1> I managed to solve it. I had created a new wired connections which for some reason didn't come up until after mythfrontend was started. When I deleted it and enabled the Auto again, it was working.
[18:25] <plsander> Hi, I've installed mythbuntu 9.10, and I am having problems getting capture from my PVR-350 card.
[19:30] <plsander> In 9.10 - which is the correct specification for a PVR-350 capture card -- V4L or IVTV?
[19:46] <foxbuntu> plsander, IVTV
[19:46] <plsander> thanks -
[19:47] <foxbuntu> plsander, this will probably help you. http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_PVR-350#Installation_guides
[19:51] <plsander> foxbuntu, I'm more worried about getting capture working... it was working on myth .20 (knoppmyth) but since I have changed to mythbuntu and myth .22 it does not capture - neither live nor recordings.
[19:51] <plsander> the doc talked about tv-out on pvr-350
[19:51] <foxbuntu> plsander, well how are you trying to capture?
[19:52] <foxbuntu> (s-vid / composite / RG6(coax) )
[19:52] <plsander> s-vid -- direct connect to cable box
[19:52] <plsander> IR blaster controlling channel change
[19:52] <foxbuntu> plsander, how are you tuning the cable box?
[19:53] <plsander> according to the logs, the channel change is completing ok.
[19:53] <foxbuntu> plsander, ok, did you setup the external channel changer command on the input connection?
[19:53] <plsander> ues
[19:53] <plsander> yes
[19:53] <foxbuntu> plsander, have you tested the channel change command to verify it is actually working as expected?
[19:54] <plsander> It was earlier, and the cable box generates a valid signal requardless of the channel tuned to
[19:55] <foxbuntu> plsander, well I am more concerned that it is actually changing channels
[19:57] <foxbuntu> plsander, before going too far, lets stop back and have you explain in more detail exactly what you are doing and how its failing
[19:57] <plsander> I'm not getting anything for live tv - just black screen then kicked back to the mythfrontend menu.  If capture was working, I would see something.
[19:58] <plsander> same behavior for recorded programs - black screen for ~5 seconds, then recording ends
[19:59] <plsander> I am using storage groups - have plenty (200G) free in the live tv directory
[20:03] <foxbuntu> plsander, post your logs with Mythbuntu Log Grabber, try watching live tv once more then post the logs
[20:03] <foxbuntu> plsander, the logs should provide information
[20:03] <plsander> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f337a584b -- started livetv around 13:50
[20:09] <foxbuntu> plsander, try this: cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg
[20:10] <plsander> I get the default cable box channel when I play that mpg.
[20:10] <foxbuntu> plsander, ctrl + c to kill it
[20:10] <plsander> so the card is working
[20:11] <foxbuntu> plsander, ok, so its a configuration thing then
[20:11] <foxbuntu> plsander, (at least thats the likely story)
[20:11] <plsander> :-D
[20:11] <foxbuntu> plsander, when yo say default channel, is it the Menu/On-Demand channel?
[20:13] <plsander> It's the "how to use your cable box channel"
[20:13] <foxbuntu> plsander, ah ha
[20:13] <foxbuntu> plsander, use the normal cable remote to get the box off that channel onto something else
[20:16] <plsander> Used the channel change program, since the remote is long vanished into some drawer - the change worked.
[20:16] <foxbuntu> ok, so now you have some sort of tv
[20:18] <plsander> now to get myth to work with it.
[20:19] <foxbuntu> plsander, run the frontend like this: mythfrontend -v all
[20:19] <foxbuntu> plsander, then try the watchtv
[20:21] <plsander> ok - have that output in a file
[20:21] <foxbuntu> plsander, post it
[20:22] <plsander> is there a way to post a file to pastebin?
[20:22] <foxbuntu> plsander, little hint, cat <file> | pastebinit
[20:23] <plsander> spiffy... http://pastebin.com/f54256f78
[20:28] <Essobi> Meh
[20:28] <Essobi> I can't get this stupid BT878 to work with on-card sound
[20:30] <foxbuntu> plsander, well this seems to expose part of the issue, you said you are using storage groups, are you using the default folder locations, or did you create your own?
[20:31] <plsander> default - added locations to them
[20:31] <foxbuntu> plsander, what did you add?
[20:32] <plsander> That's probalby it - I added /mnt/mythstg/v000/ but the path is /mnt/mythstg/v000/video/ (and v001, v002, v003)
[20:32] <plsander> but mythtv has write access to both v000 and v000/video
[20:33] <foxbuntu> plsander, I would chown the folders to mythtv:mythtv
[20:33] <plsander> they already are.
[20:33] <foxbuntu> ok
[20:34] <plsander> only /mnt is root:root
[20:35] <foxbuntu> plsander, only thing I can seem to find is the system times out where it should be generating the recording file, so to me it seems like a permissions issue or the way the storage groups are configured
[20:35] <plsander> I'll switch it back to the /var/lib/ paths and see if that works
[20:35] <foxbuntu> plsander, that is ok, as long as the directory has eXecute rights for everyone
[20:36] <foxbuntu> plsander, ok...I have to get going, but if it still doesnt work someone else in here will likely be able to help you out
[20:36] <Essobi> Anyone using BT878s?
[20:39] <plsander> essobi, I have a bt878, but I do not have it on my myth box
[20:39] <Essobi> plsander: Oh.. Did you ever get the audio working without a cable?
[20:40] <plsander> essobi, my understanding is that there is not a AtoD converter on that card - that audio capture must be done with a sound card, hence the stubby audio cable
[20:45] <Essobi> plsander: Well that sucks.
[20:46] <plsander> essobi, that's why I ended up with a PVR-350 :-D
[20:46] <Essobi> mmm
[20:58] <Essobi> Yea, If I'm reading the pinouts right.
[20:58] <Essobi> they never even hooked up to the AtoD part of the chip
[20:58] <Essobi> that's retarded
[20:58] <Essobi> it's on the chip
[20:58] <Essobi> BUT HEY
[20:58] <Essobi> LETS JU*ST IGNORE THAT
[20:58] <Essobi> stupid b*stards
[21:05] <plsander> foxbuntu, found the problem... chmod g+s for my storage group dirs...
[21:22] <Shadow__X> superm1: is the motd thats supposed to show up with mythtv-status a known bug
[21:50] <randyinneed> Hi, I'm installing 9.10 with a hauppauge 250 but my scan for channels button in the connect source to input screen is grayed out
[21:51] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, are you in north america?
[21:52] <tgm4883> !stab foxbuntu
[21:52]  * Zinn stabs foxbuntu with a sharpened mce remote.
[21:52] <randyinneed> yes
[21:52] <tgm4883> I would guess North Carolina?
[21:52] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, nice
[21:52] <randyinneed> yes
[21:52]  * tgm4883 is a Psychic
[21:52] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, carry on
[21:52] <randyinneed> my southern accent gives it away?
[21:52] <tgm4883> randyinneed, yep
[21:52] <foxbuntu> tgm4883, yea..I didnt look as hs connect string before asking
[21:53] <tgm4883> foxbuntu, thats ok, I'll just call you a noob and go back to moving how-tos
[21:54] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, have you setup your Schedules Direct account and downloaded the guide data yet?
[21:54] <randyinneed> yes
[21:55] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, what type of input are you using?
[21:55] <randyinneed> tuner 1
[21:55] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, so coax/RG6 correct?
[21:55] <randyinneed> yes
[21:55] <randyinneed> coax
[21:55] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, have you selected the data source on your input?
[21:57] <randyinneed> If  i understand what yur are asking my video source is set to my schedules direct video source
[21:57] <foxbuntu> I think thats the correct options
[21:58] <foxbuntu> I dont recall the exact wording in the menu
[21:59] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, have you tried to watch TV with it yet?
[21:59] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, because as I recall that option to channel scan got disabled recently in MythTV
[22:00] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, the video/data source needs to be provided (which you have done)
[22:00] <randyinneed> yes, it fails. The backend log says it is unable to find channel (or somehing like that)
[22:00] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, please use Mythbuntu Log Grabber to post your logs
[22:01] <randyinneed> ok
[22:04] <randyinneed> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f32ebd236
[22:05] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, this is a PVR-250?
[22:05] <randyinneed> yes
[22:06] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, which type of tuner did you select in the capture card setup?
[22:06] <foxbuntu> V4L?
[22:06] <randyinneed> yes
[22:06] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, ah, there is the issue
[22:06] <foxbuntu> randyinneed, change it to IVTV
[22:07] <randyinneed> ok
[22:08] <randyinneed> ah great, that seems to be working.
[22:08] <randyinneed> thank you so much
[22:09] <foxbuntu> np
[22:15] <randyinneed> scan seems to have frozen at 5%
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[23:19] <henrik__> superm1, here??