[00:00] <maco> so you want to know how to add new networks to xchat? http://www.linuxchix.org/connecting-linuxchix-irc-using-xchat.html tells how to add new networks
[00:00] <zero-day> yes
[00:00] <zero-day> but do you know any hacking community?
[00:00] <zero-day> or channel?
[00:01] <maco> not that i'm gonna tell you about
[00:01] <tonyyarusso> You can't ask that here.
[00:01] <tonyyarusso> Or anywhere on Freenode.
[00:01] <zero-day> what's Freenode?
[00:01] <maco> tonyyarusso: well if zero-day actually means hacking (not cracking) i do know one on freenode
[00:01] <maco> zero-day: this irc server
[00:01] <tonyyarusso> maco: True, but I doubt that.
[00:01] <maco> but im pretty sure theyd get mad at me for sending people to them
[00:01] <zero-day> wait you guys are not understanding
[00:01] <tonyyarusso> maco: heck, -ot qualifies for that :P
[00:02] <maco> tonyyarusso: with snuxoll? yeah...
[00:02] <tonyyarusso> Perhaps we'd understand more if you used capitalization and punctuation.
[00:02] <zero-day> i'm not english man
[00:02] <zero-day> :)
[00:02] <tonyyarusso> maco: I've assigned him some pet projects to do for me in his spare time making two Gnome applets I want :)
[00:02] <maco> neither am i :_)
[00:02] <maco> :-)
[00:02] <maco> tonyyarusso: cool!
[00:03] <zero-day> I just want a programming server or channel
[00:03] <maco> zero-day: if you want a C channel ##C or if you want python #python or if you want perl #perl
[00:03] <maco> getting the pattern?
[00:03] <zero-day> oh yes
[00:04] <zero-day> but i dont understand on thing
[00:04] <zero-day> one*
[00:05] <zero-day> I'm really liking irc :)
[00:09] <zero-day> so this is a server with channels, is it?
[00:10] <maco> yes...
[00:10] <nhandler> x/43
[00:10] <maco> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[00:27] <mneptok> maco: i banned zero-day in #u for being offtopic. so he should have been referred to #freenode
[00:28] <maco> ohok
[00:28] <mneptok> maco: -ops is not a support channel ;)
[00:28] <maco> yeah i know its not
[00:28] <maco> thats why i told him to read his client's help docs
[00:28] <zero-day> hello again :)
[00:29] <zero-day> hello again :)
[00:29] <mneptok> zero-day: this is not a support channel.
[00:29] <mneptok> zero-day: you will need to find help elsewhere
[00:29] <zero-day> what?
[00:30] <mneptok> zero-day: this channel is not for asking questions about how IRC or your client works
[00:30] <zero-day> could you say to me how do I know the channels in one certain server?
[00:30] <mneptok> zero-day: and you are banned from #ubuntu for being offtopic. now you are doing the same thing here.
[00:30] <mneptok> no
[00:30] <zero-day> sorry
[00:30] <mneptok> this. is. not. a. support. channel.
[00:31] <zero-day> ok
[00:31] <zero-day> so what is it?!
[00:31] <maco> just learn to use your client. im sure there are webpages on the subject
[00:31] <mneptok> this channel is for discussion of Ubuntu IRC channels and their policies and procedures.
[00:31] <zero-day> hum
[00:31] <maco> it's like Ubuntu's own little Police Station
[00:32] <zero-day> rofl
[00:32] <zero-day> ok, so I'm new with ubuntu, and I've some difficulty installing things...
[00:32] <mneptok> zero-day: any other questiosn regarding Ubuntu channels and their policies?
[00:33] <mneptok> zero-day: apparently not. please type "/part #ubuntu-ops" (no quotes) in your client
[00:34] <zero-day> man, I'm questioning something!
[00:34] <maco> zero-day: you're asking for support. this channel is not for that.
[00:34] <mneptok> one LAST time
[00:34] <mneptok> this. is. not. a. support. channel.
[00:35] <zero-day> so I don't understand what are policies
[00:35] <zero-day> :s
[00:35] <maco> zero-day: rules
[00:35] <zero-day> oh!
[00:35] <zero-day> ok, so bye :)
[02:41] <Cpudan80> Ehh
[02:41] <Cpudan80> why did the bot +m #ubuntu ?
[02:41] <bazhang> bot attacks
[02:42] <Cpudan80> so it +m the channel?
[02:42] <maco> if they cant send to the channel, they cant sploit you?
[02:42] <Cpudan80> That's stupid
[02:42] <Cpudan80> That is not a good idea - the bot should try virtually everything else before +m
[02:42] <maco> Cpudan80: its not like its permanent
[02:42] <Cpudan80> +r would be better
[02:43] <bazhang> Cpudan80, thanks for your views.
[02:43] <bazhang> Cpudan80, was there something else?
[02:43] <Cpudan80> I realize that it is not permanent
[02:43] <Cpudan80> no that's it
[02:43] <bazhang> bye then
[02:43] <Cpudan80> it might be good to have the bot notice the channel (or something) if it has to do +m
[02:44] <bazhang> Mike_lifeguard, how can we help you
[02:44] <bazhang> squircle, something you needed help with?
[02:45] <maco> bazhang: Mike_lifeguard had a suggestion for the message the floodbots send out
[02:45] <squircle> hi everybody; apparently i can't be automatically tested for the DCC exploit in ubuntu-read-topic, and I keep getting spammed with DCC requests... i've connected on port 8001, and I can join #ubuntu, but I keep getting 404: can't send to channel
[02:45] <bazhang> maco, doubt they have time to do it.
[02:45] <squircle> i guess i need to be tested manually?
[02:45] <Mike_lifeguard> After DCC exploits, some info would be nice so the period after -m isn't consumed with "omg, hackers" and the like
[02:45] <bazhang> !exploit
[02:45] <bazhang> Mike_lifeguard, ^^
[02:46]  * Mike_lifeguard headdesk
[02:47] <bazhang> squircle, you seem to be in now
[02:47] <squircle> yep, thanks :)
[02:47] <bazhang> Mike_lifeguard, thanks for the idea, but we have a factoid already--was there something else?
[02:48] <maco> bazhang: is the factoid automatically sent?
[02:48] <maco> i think there was something Mike_lifeguard said about +C as well, that i didnt understand
[02:48] <bazhang> right. that is umode +C to protect the DCC spam
[02:49] <bazhang> err against
[02:49] <bazhang> also want to set /ignore to dcc stuff
[02:49] <maco> i think he wanted this: <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[02:49] <bazhang> squircle, were you trying to notice the channel?
[02:50] <nhandler> You can also link to http://blog.freenode.net/2009/11/dcc-spam-and-how-to-handle-it/ for info about handling DCC spam
[02:50] <squircle> notice the channel?
[02:50] <maco> to include "to prevent such DCC spam, you can set umode +C"
[02:50] <maco> or something like that
[02:50] <bazhang> squircle, that will get you banned by the floodbots
[02:50] <maco> squircle: /notice or /msg
[02:50] <maco> or /query
[02:50] <maco> instead of simply speaking in the channel
[02:51] <squircle> maco: none of those. i just got a bunch of zero-byte DCC requests and got banned.
[02:51] <bazhang> squircle, I saw you say you wanted to /msg #ubuntu
[02:51] <squircle> well, i meant speak in the channel #ubuntu
[02:51] <squircle> i know you shouldn't/cant /msg a channel
[02:51] <maco> in #ubuntu you said
 i wonder if i'll still get 404 errors when trying to PRIVMSG #ubuntu...
[02:52] <bazhang> well, not without consequences
[02:52] <maco> i think thats why bazhang thought you were /notice'ing it
[02:52] <bazhang> squircle, if there is nothing else, please dont idle here
[02:52] <squircle> oh, no.
[02:52] <maco> s/thought/asked if/
[02:52] <squircle> alright, thanks everyone :)
[02:53] <bazhang> bye
[02:53] <maco> squircle: the channel was +m for a bit due to the attack. probably just got cauht in that :)
[02:59] <bazhang> boxxy_ was unbanned?
[03:01] <bazhang> yep apparently so
[03:22] <linuxguy2009> test me
[03:23] <linuxguy2009> (10:22:20 PM) FloodBot1: linuxguy2009: Hello, You can't « /join #ubuntu » because of a problem with your connection. Please type « /topic » and read the instructions.
[03:24] <linuxguy2009> Someone care to test me so I can connect?
[03:25] <linuxguy2009> Alrighty then
[03:26] <Flannel> Erm
[03:41] <maco> nice attention span
[03:43] <elky> Hello, You can't join #ubuntu because of a problem with your attention span...
[03:50] <mdeonte> elky hello?
[03:51] <elky> hi mdeonte, do you have something new to tell me?
[03:57] <Flannel> maco: That wasn't a threat
[03:57] <bazhang> whoops
[03:57] <maco> Flannel: i thought it was a "i'm gonna hack you" threat
[03:57] <bazhang> I misread it too, sorry
[03:57] <Flannel> No, it was a "be careful so you don't arr emm arr eff root" statement
[03:59] <maco> i dont see anything about arr emm arr eff...
[03:59] <Flannel> maco: Please remember to take statements with good faith.  Things are easy to misunderstand/misinterpret on the internet.
[03:59] <Flannel> 19:55 < sniqqer> rivoot: the rm -rf /directory , the spacing is broken between / and directory so it is really close to removing your entire system!!
[03:59] <maco> ah i see
[03:59] <Flannel> because the spacing on this website: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/571-install-flashplayer-in-ubuntu-64-bit- is all wonky
[04:00] <maco> i just pm'd an apology
[04:00] <Flannel> maco: in general, *one* statement isn't enough for an ! o p s call, because it's way too easy for a false positive.  catalyze first, administrative things as a last resort.
[04:01] <Flannel> Also, a 'real' "watch your language" statement goes over better than a factoid call
[04:01] <maco> he's going to join here
[04:11] <linuxguy2009> (11:10:12 PM) The topic for #ubuntu-read-topic is: Your router is buggy 1) Please follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit to FIX it (yes, it can be fixed) 2) after carrying out those instructions please type « test me » and wait few minutes | if this fails, type « /join #ubuntu-ops » to be tested manually
[04:11] <linuxguy2009> Test me please?
[04:11] <Flannel> linuxguy2009: Pleaes join -read-topic and get tested there
[04:11] <Flannel> (I know you did earlier, but do it again now)
[04:12] <linuxguy2009> Ok thank you.
[04:13] <Flannel> linuxguy2009: Looks like you're sorted
[04:13] <linuxguy2009> Im back again.
[04:13] <linuxguy2009> Ok now it worked.
[04:14] <mdeonte> elky, Uhm, I dont know what "proof" you want but I have been on here like all day and been helping, talking etc. and i have been trying to reconcile with the people I am bnned from
[04:15] <elky> what channels have you been helping in?
[04:24] <mdeonte> #wikipedia, #freenode,
[04:25] <mdeonte> #wikimedia
[04:53] <mdeonte> elky^
[05:15] <elky> i'm not seeing anything significant in those channels
[05:21] <elky> mdeonte, under what nicknames have you been "helping". answering one question in #freenode is hardly a huge change of behaviour.
[05:38] <mdeonte> elky I consider asking questions help too
[05:39] <elky> in this context, it's not.
[05:40] <mdeonte> elky, how am I supposed to help people if i am banned in the support channel?
[05:41] <mdeonte> "and i have been trying to reconcile with the people I am bnned from" what i said earlier too
[05:41] <mdeonte> anned*
[05:41] <mdeonte> banned*
[05:43] <elky> mdeonte, this isn't about helping your way out of a ban. it's about interacting with a channel in a productive way. lying isn't going to help give that impression. I only looked for "helping" because you said you were giving it.
[05:43] <elky> who have you been trying to reconcile with?
[05:44] <mdeonte> you, Flannel, emma
[05:44] <mdeonte> I wasnt lying?
[05:45] <elky> saying seeking assistance is helping is a lie.
[05:46] <elky> and how have you been reconciling with flannel?
[05:46] <mdeonte> What if someone else wanted to ask that question, or something. I guess it really is not helping, but i dont think that it is a lie
[05:46] <mdeonte> elky, I tried to talk to him about my ban being uplifted in #defocus
[05:46] <mdeonte> le tme see if i still have logs...
[05:47] <mdeonte> elky, lol, sorry. It was Plazma
[05:48] <mdeonte> sorry Flannel :)
[05:49] <mdeonte> elky, I have the log https://monteledwards.com/paste/index.php/view/84625313
[05:51] <elky> mdeonte, ok. what about the people you threatened in -chicago. have you apologised to them?
[05:52] <mdeonte> i was thinking about that a couple days ago, i forgot. I probably should do it now
[05:53] <mdeonte> elky, he is away.
[05:55] <mdeonte> elky, its midnight here, im going to head off to bed.
[05:55] <mdeonte> goodnight
[05:56] <elky> mdeonte, ok, well if you promise to apologise to -chicago, then i'll let you back in
[05:56] <mdeonte> To the whole channel elky?
[05:56] <elky> well the whole channel saw you be mean
[05:57] <mdeonte> elky, It would be pointless now, we're all in the same timezone. and i bet they're asleep
[05:57] <elky> well re-read what i said
[05:59] <elky> i'm asking for you to commit to apologising
[05:59] <mdeonte> Yeah, I do
[05:59] <mdeonte> Oh, sorry. its late
[06:01] <mdeonte> elky, are we done here?
[06:01]  * mdeonte is going to fall asleep on the keyboard
[06:01] <elky> yes, you'll be unbanned by the time you wake
[06:01]  * elky is having difficulty finding the ban in the list
[06:02] <bazhang> elky, he already joined and quit, not sure that he still is banned
[06:02] <mdeonte> bazhang, Yeah, i am on a different computer
[06:02] <bazhang> ahh
[06:02] <mdeonte> I thought she took off the ban already
[06:03] <mdeonte> my computer in indiana is * #ubuntu Banlist: Sat Nov 28 03:03:58 *!*@c-67-186-113-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net elky!n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu
[06:03] <elky> mdeonte, ah, your current hostmask is in .il.
[06:03] <mdeonte> elky, whatever the IP to monteledwards.com is
[06:04] <mdeonte> elky, yeah 67.186.113.238
[06:04] <elky> there, ban gone. i hope not to have to talk to you again.
[06:05] <mdeonte> thanks alot. im not going to join atm.
[06:05] <mdeonte> goodnight elky bazhang
[06:06] <elky> nhandler, nixternal, please let me know if he fails to make amends with the peeps in -chicago :)
[06:54] <foxbuntu> mneptok, hello. What can I do for you.
[06:55] <mneptok> foxbuntu: does this ring a bell - [04:18] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, http://tinyurl.com/2c9np
[06:55] <mneptok> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/12/05/%23ubuntu-mythtv.txt
[06:55] <foxbuntu> mneptok, yes. And I agree in a moment of a lapse of judgement I should not have sent that.
[06:56] <mneptok> excellent. thanks for realizing the mistake. that is all. :)
[06:57] <foxbuntu> mneptok, to be fair however that particular use continually demeans Mythbuntu users on a regular basis and has been asked to not do so by several developers from the project on multiple occasions.
[06:57] <mneptok> well, recommedning Google is discouraged in all Ubuntu channels
[06:57] <mneptok> !google
[06:57] <foxbuntu> mneptok, but I should be above that and my actions I take responsibility for.
[06:57] <mneptok> such rules apply doubly for ops.
[06:58] <mneptok> and the site you recommended was demeaning.
[06:58] <foxbuntu> mneptok, agreed. My mistake, and I will ensure it does not occur twice.
[06:58] <mneptok> rather than use URLs like that, ask that the user adhere to the CoC and IRC Guidelines.
[06:59] <mneptok> if they fail to do that, you have an excellent reason to ban them from the channel. and banforward here if you like.
[06:59] <foxbuntu> mneptok, agreed. The user has been told that on several occasions.
[06:59] <mneptok> then next time they do, grab that banhammer. :)
[07:00] <foxbuntu> mneptok, will do. Again I apologize for my mistake.
[07:00] <mneptok> no need to apologize to me.
[07:00] <nalioth> i would not banforward anyone to a channel the bansetter is not present in
[07:00] <mneptok> just wanted to ensure that if you DO take harsher action, you're standing on a solid footing.
[07:00] <foxbuntu> mneptok, ok. Thank you.
[07:01] <mneptok> no, thank YOU ;)
[07:01] <foxbuntu> :)
[07:13] <elky> why cant they all be like that?
[07:13] <elky> is that *really* so much to ask?
[07:13]  * elky goes and pouts in a corner
[07:14]  * mneptok hands elky the Official Ubuntu Pouting Blanket
[07:14] <mneptok> careful, the corner i suck on is still pretty damp.
[07:14] <elky> nonono, i want a tiara, just like palin's little girl
[07:15] <mneptok> the batshit crazy mother comes with it. sure you don't want to blanky?
[07:15] <Madpilot> I'd go with blanky, elky
[07:16] <elky> hmm, when you put it that way
[07:16] <mneptok> i'm looking for the hair dryer so you can fix that corner ...
[07:19] <KB1JWQ> TheGreatToilet is trolling in a number of channels; I'm not in his ubuntu channes, but I suspect he's doing the same there.
[07:20] <elky> KB1JWQ, he's been lighting my highlights up quite well, indeed.
[07:20] <Madpilot> awesome nick. hasn't found #u yet
[07:22]  * mneptok has no access in any of the channels that user is currently using
[07:32] <bazhang> he was in #xubuntu earlier
[07:33] <Madpilot> whois sez he's in -motu, -devel and a couple of other ubuntu channels; far as I know I lack ops in all of them
[07:34] <Madpilot> huh, I do have ops in -irc. Useful to remember.
[07:48] <Madpilot> dealt with
[14:45] <elky> who runs floodbot2?
[14:48] <elky> ah, nalioth does. nalioth, care to check config of floodbot2 with someone? the exempts it's doing do not look useful... http://paste.ubuntu.com/335937/
[14:52] <tsimpson> elky: that's likely because of the split
[14:52] <tsimpson> ie, the bot that sets the session was playing catchup
[14:53] <elky> tsimpson, aha
[14:53] <elky> there needs to be a check on that so the ban lists dont get filled up with dud exempts like that :-/
[14:55] <tsimpson> it's probably unlikely that'd happen, unless a lot of people load up webchat during a split
[14:55] <tsimpson> but then, what to do when it does happen, as far as the floodbot sees, that's the host
[14:57] <elky> it's still something that should be checked for. if the session is "session" then it's probably not worth adding to the chaos.
[17:53] <mdeonte> hello?
[18:02] <ikonia> mdeonte: hello
[18:04] <ikonia> mdeonte: do you need something from #ubuntu-ops ?
[18:17] <mdeonte> ikonia, damn
[18:17] <mdeonte> I forgot
[18:17] <mdeonte> uh..
[18:17] <mdeonte> I knew it was something important too
[18:17] <ikonia> mdeonte: ?
[18:21] <ikonia> mdeonte: if you don't need anything at this time, come back when you've remembered what you wanted ?
[18:22] <mdeonte> ikonia, sure. bye
[18:52] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu luis_ removed for ban language after earlier days of asking about proxy server, quite rude and offensive in pm desipte multiple warnings and multiple attempts in pm to calm him - cannot follow instruction or moderate language
[20:24] <nhandler> elky: So far, montel (besides a quick join/part last night) has not been in -chicago
[20:52] <Flannel> er
[20:52] <Flannel> Where'd that second one come from?
[20:52] <Flannel> I don't see it in the channel.  Did he say it as I was removing him, so I didn't see it?
[20:53] <mneptok> second one what?
[20:53] <mneptok> 13:51 -!- Shockrates [n=Shockrat@adsl-101.79.107.57.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu
[20:53] <mneptok> 13:51 < Slart> Bam_Bam: enable compression? you mean on a ntfs file system? not sure if you can
[20:53] <mneptok> 13:51 < Duskao> ok
[20:53] <mneptok> 13:51 < Shockrates> !ops | guntbert verbal violence
[20:53] <Pricey> Flannel: most likely lag
[20:54] <Pricey> Flannel: he got that message into his server, at the time your server had him removed.
[20:54] <Pricey> it wouldn't make sense for your server to then give you a message from him in that channel.
[21:45]  * ikonia points attention to mesula (Sam/xcydadasd)
[22:29] <Gary> oh, not again
[22:29] <ikonia> yup ban dodged 6 channels so far
[22:30] <ikonia> Gary: over to you so I don't send nhandler to sleep
[22:30] <Gary> oki
[22:31] <ikonia> Gary: be aware he's dodging eeepc and eeepc-ot too
[22:31] <ikonia> ot
[22:31] <Gary> ikonia: I know him too well sadly - can you please supply a channel list of ban dodges you have seen
[22:31] <ikonia> I've obviously delt with the ubuntu bans
[22:32] <ikonia> Gary: #ubuntu #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu+1 #eeepc-ot #eeepc and I'm not %100 sure on ##linux to be honest
[22:32] <ikonia> infact it looks like his ##linux ban has been cleared actually - I'm wrong on that one
[22:33] <Gary> was he just ban dodging or was he as normal offtopic in them?
[22:34] <ikonia> for ubuntu just ban dodging - banned on site to stop his behaviour, #eeepc-ot trying to be a problem / smart mouth, #eeepc silent but dodging
[22:40] <MenZa> maco: if he continues, remove or banforward would you say?
[22:40] <maco> in -ot? banforward him to ##politics :P
[22:40] <MenZa> hah
[22:40] <maco> its what he wants to discuss, right?
[22:41] <MenZa> true
[22:41] <MenZa> I wonder if auto_bleh takes arguments <nick> <channel> <reason> to /af
[23:05] <vorian> MenZa: with a bit of editing it could