[00:00] so you want to know how to add new networks to xchat? http://www.linuxchix.org/connecting-linuxchix-irc-using-xchat.html tells how to add new networks [00:00] yes [00:00] but do you know any hacking community? [00:00] or channel? [00:01] not that i'm gonna tell you about [00:01] You can't ask that here. [00:01] Or anywhere on Freenode. [00:01] what's Freenode? [00:01] tonyyarusso: well if zero-day actually means hacking (not cracking) i do know one on freenode [00:01] zero-day: this irc server [00:01] maco: True, but I doubt that. [00:01] but im pretty sure theyd get mad at me for sending people to them [00:01] wait you guys are not understanding [00:01] maco: heck, -ot qualifies for that :P [00:02] tonyyarusso: with snuxoll? yeah... [00:02] Perhaps we'd understand more if you used capitalization and punctuation. [00:02] i'm not english man [00:02] :) [00:02] maco: I've assigned him some pet projects to do for me in his spare time making two Gnome applets I want :) [00:02] neither am i :_) [00:02] :-) [00:02] tonyyarusso: cool! [00:03] I just want a programming server or channel [00:03] zero-day: if you want a C channel ##C or if you want python #python or if you want perl #perl [00:03] getting the pattern? [00:03] oh yes [00:04] but i dont understand on thing [00:04] one* [00:05] I'm really liking irc :) [00:09] so this is a server with channels, is it? [00:10] yes... [00:10] x/43 [00:10] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat [00:27] maco: i banned zero-day in #u for being offtopic. so he should have been referred to #freenode [00:28] ohok [00:28] maco: -ops is not a support channel ;) [00:28] yeah i know its not [00:28] thats why i told him to read his client's help docs [00:28] hello again :) [00:29] hello again :) [00:29] zero-day: this is not a support channel. [00:29] zero-day: you will need to find help elsewhere [00:29] what? [00:30] zero-day: this channel is not for asking questions about how IRC or your client works [00:30] could you say to me how do I know the channels in one certain server? [00:30] zero-day: and you are banned from #ubuntu for being offtopic. now you are doing the same thing here. [00:30] no [00:30] sorry [00:30] this. is. not. a. support. channel. [00:31] ok [00:31] so what is it?! [00:31] just learn to use your client. im sure there are webpages on the subject [00:31] this channel is for discussion of Ubuntu IRC channels and their policies and procedures. [00:31] hum [00:31] it's like Ubuntu's own little Police Station [00:32] rofl [00:32] ok, so I'm new with ubuntu, and I've some difficulty installing things... [00:32] zero-day: any other questiosn regarding Ubuntu channels and their policies? [00:33] zero-day: apparently not. please type "/part #ubuntu-ops" (no quotes) in your client [00:34] man, I'm questioning something! [00:34] zero-day: you're asking for support. this channel is not for that. [00:34] one LAST time [00:34] this. is. not. a. support. channel. [00:35] so I don't understand what are policies [00:35] :s [00:35] zero-day: rules [00:35] oh! [00:35] ok, so bye :) [02:34] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:34] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:34] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:34] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:37] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:37] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:41] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:41] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:41] Ehh [02:41] why did the bot +m #ubuntu ? [02:41] bot attacks [02:42] so it +m the channel? [02:42] if they cant send to the channel, they cant sploit you? [02:42] That's stupid [02:42] That is not a good idea - the bot should try virtually everything else before +m [02:42] Cpudan80: its not like its permanent [02:42] +r would be better [02:43] Cpudan80, thanks for your views. [02:43] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:43] Cpudan80, was there something else? [02:43] I realize that it is not permanent [02:43] no that's it [02:43] bye then [02:43] it might be good to have the bot notice the channel (or something) if it has to do +m [02:44] Mike_lifeguard, how can we help you [02:44] squircle, something you needed help with? [02:45] bazhang: Mike_lifeguard had a suggestion for the message the floodbots send out [02:45] hi everybody; apparently i can't be automatically tested for the DCC exploit in ubuntu-read-topic, and I keep getting spammed with DCC requests... i've connected on port 8001, and I can join #ubuntu, but I keep getting 404: can't send to channel [02:45] maco, doubt they have time to do it. [02:45] i guess i need to be tested manually? [02:45] After DCC exploits, some info would be nice so the period after -m isn't consumed with "omg, hackers" and the like [02:45] !exploit [02:45] There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit [02:45] Mike_lifeguard, ^^ [02:46] * Mike_lifeguard headdesk [02:47] squircle, you seem to be in now [02:47] yep, thanks :) [02:47] Mike_lifeguard, thanks for the idea, but we have a factoid already--was there something else? [02:48] bazhang: is the factoid automatically sent? [02:48] i think there was something Mike_lifeguard said about +C as well, that i didnt understand [02:48] right. that is umode +C to protect the DCC spam [02:49] err against [02:49] also want to set /ignore to dcc stuff [02:49] i think he wanted this: NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now. [02:49] squircle, were you trying to notice the channel? [02:50] You can also link to http://blog.freenode.net/2009/11/dcc-spam-and-how-to-handle-it/ for info about handling DCC spam [02:50] notice the channel? [02:50] to include "to prevent such DCC spam, you can set umode +C" [02:50] or something like that [02:50] squircle, that will get you banned by the floodbots [02:50] squircle: /notice or /msg [02:50] or /query [02:50] instead of simply speaking in the channel [02:51] maco: none of those. i just got a bunch of zero-byte DCC requests and got banned. [02:51] squircle, I saw you say you wanted to /msg #ubuntu [02:51] well, i meant speak in the channel #ubuntu [02:51] i know you shouldn't/cant /msg a channel [02:51] in #ubuntu you said [02:51] i wonder if i'll still get 404 errors when trying to PRIVMSG #ubuntu... [02:52] well, not without consequences [02:52] i think thats why bazhang thought you were /notice'ing it [02:52] squircle, if there is nothing else, please dont idle here [02:52] oh, no. [02:52] s/thought/asked if/ [02:52] alright, thanks everyone :) [02:53] bye [02:53] squircle: the channel was +m for a bit due to the attack. probably just got cauht in that :) [02:59] boxxy_ was unbanned? [03:01] yep apparently so [03:22] test me [03:23] (10:22:20 PM) FloodBot1: linuxguy2009: Hello, You can't « /join #ubuntu » because of a problem with your connection. Please type « /topic » and read the instructions. [03:24] Someone care to test me so I can connect? [03:25] Alrighty then [03:26] Erm [03:41] nice attention span [03:43] Hello, You can't join #ubuntu because of a problem with your attention span... [03:50] elky hello? [03:51] hi mdeonte, do you have something new to tell me? [03:56] maco called the ops in #ubuntu (sniqqer language and threats) [03:57] maco: That wasn't a threat [03:57] whoops [03:57] Flannel: i thought it was a "i'm gonna hack you" threat [03:57] I misread it too, sorry [03:57] No, it was a "be careful so you don't arr emm arr eff root" statement [03:59] i dont see anything about arr emm arr eff... [03:59] maco: Please remember to take statements with good faith. Things are easy to misunderstand/misinterpret on the internet. [03:59] 19:55 < sniqqer> rivoot: the rm -rf /directory , the spacing is broken between / and directory so it is really close to removing your entire system!! [03:59] ah i see [03:59] because the spacing on this website: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/571-install-flashplayer-in-ubuntu-64-bit- is all wonky [04:00] i just pm'd an apology [04:00] maco: in general, *one* statement isn't enough for an ! o p s call, because it's way too easy for a false positive. catalyze first, administrative things as a last resort. [04:01] Also, a 'real' "watch your language" statement goes over better than a factoid call [04:01] he's going to join here [04:11] (11:10:12 PM) The topic for #ubuntu-read-topic is: Your router is buggy 1) Please follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit to FIX it (yes, it can be fixed) 2) after carrying out those instructions please type « test me » and wait few minutes | if this fails, type « /join #ubuntu-ops » to be tested manually [04:11] Test me please? [04:11] linuxguy2009: Pleaes join -read-topic and get tested there [04:11] (I know you did earlier, but do it again now) [04:12] Ok thank you. [04:13] linuxguy2009: Looks like you're sorted [04:13] Im back again. [04:13] Ok now it worked. [04:14] elky, Uhm, I dont know what "proof" you want but I have been on here like all day and been helping, talking etc. and i have been trying to reconcile with the people I am bnned from [04:15] what channels have you been helping in? [04:24] #wikipedia, #freenode, [04:25] #wikimedia [04:53] elky^ [05:15] i'm not seeing anything significant in those channels [05:21] mdeonte, under what nicknames have you been "helping". answering one question in #freenode is hardly a huge change of behaviour. [05:38] elky I consider asking questions help too [05:39] in this context, it's not. [05:40] elky, how am I supposed to help people if i am banned in the support channel? [05:41] "and i have been trying to reconcile with the people I am bnned from" what i said earlier too [05:41] anned* [05:41] banned* [05:43] mdeonte, this isn't about helping your way out of a ban. it's about interacting with a channel in a productive way. lying isn't going to help give that impression. I only looked for "helping" because you said you were giving it. [05:43] who have you been trying to reconcile with? [05:44] you, Flannel, emma [05:44] I wasnt lying? [05:45] saying seeking assistance is helping is a lie. [05:46] and how have you been reconciling with flannel? [05:46] What if someone else wanted to ask that question, or something. I guess it really is not helping, but i dont think that it is a lie [05:46] elky, I tried to talk to him about my ban being uplifted in #defocus [05:46] le tme see if i still have logs... [05:47] elky, lol, sorry. It was Plazma [05:48] sorry Flannel :) [05:49] elky, I have the log https://monteledwards.com/paste/index.php/view/84625313 [05:51] mdeonte, ok. what about the people you threatened in -chicago. have you apologised to them? [05:52] i was thinking about that a couple days ago, i forgot. I probably should do it now [05:53] elky, he is away. [05:55] elky, its midnight here, im going to head off to bed. [05:55] goodnight [05:56] mdeonte, ok, well if you promise to apologise to -chicago, then i'll let you back in [05:56] To the whole channel elky? [05:56] well the whole channel saw you be mean [05:57] elky, It would be pointless now, we're all in the same timezone. and i bet they're asleep [05:57] well re-read what i said [05:59] i'm asking for you to commit to apologising [05:59] Yeah, I do [05:59] Oh, sorry. its late [06:01] elky, are we done here? [06:01] * mdeonte is going to fall asleep on the keyboard [06:01] yes, you'll be unbanned by the time you wake [06:01] * elky is having difficulty finding the ban in the list [06:02] elky, he already joined and quit, not sure that he still is banned [06:02] bazhang, Yeah, i am on a different computer [06:02] ahh [06:02] I thought she took off the ban already [06:03] my computer in indiana is * #ubuntu Banlist: Sat Nov 28 03:03:58 *!*@c-67-186-113-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net elky!n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu [06:03] mdeonte, ah, your current hostmask is in .il. [06:03] elky, whatever the IP to monteledwards.com is [06:04] elky, yeah 67.186.113.238 [06:04] there, ban gone. i hope not to have to talk to you again. [06:05] thanks alot. im not going to join atm. [06:05] goodnight elky bazhang [06:06] nhandler, nixternal, please let me know if he fails to make amends with the peeps in -chicago :) [06:54] mneptok, hello. What can I do for you. [06:55] foxbuntu: does this ring a bell - [04:18] darthanubis, http://tinyurl.com/2c9np [06:55] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/12/05/%23ubuntu-mythtv.txt [06:55] mneptok, yes. And I agree in a moment of a lapse of judgement I should not have sent that. [06:56] excellent. thanks for realizing the mistake. that is all. :) [06:57] mneptok, to be fair however that particular use continually demeans Mythbuntu users on a regular basis and has been asked to not do so by several developers from the project on multiple occasions. [06:57] well, recommedning Google is discouraged in all Ubuntu channels [06:57] !google [06:57] While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question. [06:57] mneptok, but I should be above that and my actions I take responsibility for. [06:57] such rules apply doubly for ops. [06:58] and the site you recommended was demeaning. [06:58] mneptok, agreed. My mistake, and I will ensure it does not occur twice. [06:58] rather than use URLs like that, ask that the user adhere to the CoC and IRC Guidelines. [06:59] if they fail to do that, you have an excellent reason to ban them from the channel. and banforward here if you like. [06:59] mneptok, agreed. The user has been told that on several occasions. [06:59] then next time they do, grab that banhammer. :) [07:00] mneptok, will do. Again I apologize for my mistake. [07:00] no need to apologize to me. [07:00] i would not banforward anyone to a channel the bansetter is not present in [07:00] just wanted to ensure that if you DO take harsher action, you're standing on a solid footing. [07:00] mneptok, ok. Thank you. [07:01] no, thank YOU ;) [07:01] :) [07:13] why cant they all be like that? [07:13] is that *really* so much to ask? [07:13] * elky goes and pouts in a corner [07:14] * mneptok hands elky the Official Ubuntu Pouting Blanket [07:14] careful, the corner i suck on is still pretty damp. [07:14] nonono, i want a tiara, just like palin's little girl [07:15] the batshit crazy mother comes with it. sure you don't want to blanky? [07:15] I'd go with blanky, elky [07:16] hmm, when you put it that way [07:16] i'm looking for the hair dryer so you can fix that corner ... [07:19] TheGreatToilet is trolling in a number of channels; I'm not in his ubuntu channes, but I suspect he's doing the same there. [07:20] KB1JWQ, he's been lighting my highlights up quite well, indeed. [07:20] awesome nick. hasn't found #u yet [07:22] * mneptok has no access in any of the channels that user is currently using [07:32] he was in #xubuntu earlier [07:33] whois sez he's in -motu, -devel and a couple of other ubuntu channels; far as I know I lack ops in all of them [07:34] huh, I do have ops in -irc. Useful to remember. [07:48] darksector called the ops in #ubuntu () [07:48] dealt with [14:18] jtaji called the ops in #ubuntu (billym13) [14:45] who runs floodbot2? [14:48] ah, nalioth does. nalioth, care to check config of floodbot2 with someone? the exempts it's doing do not look useful... http://paste.ubuntu.com/335937/ [14:52] elky: that's likely because of the split [14:52] ie, the bot that sets the session was playing catchup [14:53] tsimpson, aha [14:53] there needs to be a check on that so the ban lists dont get filled up with dud exempts like that :-/ [14:55] it's probably unlikely that'd happen, unless a lot of people load up webchat during a split [14:55] but then, what to do when it does happen, as far as the floodbot sees, that's the host [14:57] it's still something that should be checked for. if the session is "session" then it's probably not worth adding to the chaos. [17:53] hello? [17:58] In #ubuntu, portn0k said: ubottu: there is no "better", it depends on what youre using the system for and what your goals are [18:02] mdeonte: hello [18:04] mdeonte: do you need something from #ubuntu-ops ? [18:17] ikonia, damn [18:17] I forgot [18:17] uh.. [18:17] I knew it was something important too [18:17] mdeonte: ? [18:21] mdeonte: if you don't need anything at this time, come back when you've remembered what you wanted ? [18:22] ikonia, sure. bye [18:52] @mark #ubuntu luis_ removed for ban language after earlier days of asking about proxy server, quite rude and offensive in pm desipte multiple warnings and multiple attempts in pm to calm him - cannot follow instruction or moderate language [18:52] The operation succeeded. [20:24] elky: So far, montel (besides a quick join/part last night) has not been in -chicago [20:51] guntbert called the ops in #ubuntu (Shockrates verbal violence) [20:51] Shockrates called the ops in #ubuntu (guntbert verbal violence) [20:52] er [20:52] Where'd that second one come from? [20:52] I don't see it in the channel. Did he say it as I was removing him, so I didn't see it? [20:53] second one what? [20:53] 13:51 -!- Shockrates [n=Shockrat@adsl-101.79.107.57.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu [20:53] 13:51 < Slart> Bam_Bam: enable compression? you mean on a ntfs file system? not sure if you can [20:53] 13:51 < Duskao> ok [20:53] 13:51 < Shockrates> !ops | guntbert verbal violence [20:53] Flannel: most likely lag [20:54] Flannel: he got that message into his server, at the time your server had him removed. [20:54] it wouldn't make sense for your server to then give you a message from him in that channel. [21:45] * ikonia points attention to mesula (Sam/xcydadasd) [22:29] oh, not again [22:29] yup ban dodged 6 channels so far [22:30] Gary: over to you so I don't send nhandler to sleep [22:30] oki [22:31] Gary: be aware he's dodging eeepc and eeepc-ot too [22:31] ot [22:31] ikonia: I know him too well sadly - can you please supply a channel list of ban dodges you have seen [22:31] I've obviously delt with the ubuntu bans [22:32] Gary: #ubuntu #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu+1 #eeepc-ot #eeepc and I'm not %100 sure on ##linux to be honest [22:32] infact it looks like his ##linux ban has been cleared actually - I'm wrong on that one [22:33] was he just ban dodging or was he as normal offtopic in them? [22:34] for ubuntu just ban dodging - banned on site to stop his behaviour, #eeepc-ot trying to be a problem / smart mouth, #eeepc silent but dodging [22:40] maco: if he continues, remove or banforward would you say? [22:40] in -ot? banforward him to ##politics :P [22:40] hah [22:40] its what he wants to discuss, right? [22:41] true [22:41] I wonder if auto_bleh takes arguments to /af [23:05] MenZa: with a bit of editing it could