[00:14] A|3x: sudo a2enmod rewrite # would be a good start, I don't think it is enabled by default ? [00:17] jmarsden: no it's not [00:28] jmarsden: been there, done that... [00:30] A|3x: Can you test mod_rewrite in a simpler virtualhost you create yourself, and then test in your wordpress installation when you know mod_rewrite works? [00:30] Going from zero to a large database-backed site is... skipping a few steps, if you see what I mean. [01:42] New bug: #493020 in vm-builder (universe) "vmbuilder: Deletes most of /dev on interrupt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/493020 [02:00] Is it possible to rename Ubuntu packages? I'd love for "python-vm-builder" to be simplified to "vmbuilder" in Lucid as the programming language used to implement it seems irrelevant. [02:16] erichammond: It is possible. [02:16] ScottK: Thanks. Is there a formal way to suggest it or should I just mention it to soren? [02:17] When I report bugs with ubuntu-bug, I keep assuming that the vmbuilder package is named vmbuilder and then have to go look up or remember the long name with dashes in odd places. [02:18] erichammond: Is python-vm-builder just an application or can it also be used programmatically as a python module? [02:19] ScottK: As far as I know it's just a program you run. It is written in a modular style so that it is possible to write plugins for different architectures, but a lot of software is like this, so I'm not sure that is sufficient reason to put the programming language in the package name. [02:19] Then just mention it to the primary maintainer. [02:19] Soren would be the person driving this and may have good reasons. I'm just interested in giving my usage experience. [02:22] is it safe to assume ext4 is stable on ubuntu server 9.10? [02:23] foo: It's the default file system for new installs. [02:24] ScottK: I know, but is it stable? [02:24] ScottK: eg. if my system improperly shuts down, should I be concerned [02:24] ? [02:24] I just saw it installed on karmic [02:25] I think it's a reasonable assumption that the developers considered it stable enough for general use since they made it the default. [02:25] I know some people that use ext2 because they are concerned ext3 is not stable enough. [02:25] that's what I thought, just wanted to be reassured :) [02:25] thanks ScottK [02:25] haha, I see [02:25] So this isn't something that can be stated in absolutes. [02:25] this is my local server, and I'll have that data backed up, so it should be ok, I imagine [02:26] * foo nods [02:26] If they made it the default, I imagine it has to be pretty stable too [02:27] I'm sure they believed it to be stable, which is not exactly the same thing. [02:27] * foo nods [02:27] Hm, should I opt to install security updates automatically? [02:27] I imagine that should be fine [02:27] local home server/router [02:29] * foo does, and tries to not overthink this [02:30] hm, this cloud computing options makes me curous [02:30] curious * [02:34] smoser: I forget where we were discussing it, but I just remembered that it is /etc/fstab which can be used to tell fsck not to check a file system on boot. fsck on S3 AMIs seems like an impossible task, but on EBS boot AMIs it could theoretically be done with a snapshot of the volume attached to a different instance. === noobuntu_ is now known as noobuntu [04:10] Im you're firestarter, twisted firestarter. === r00tintheb0x is now known as godimsoelite === godimsoelite is now known as God_Im_So_Elite [04:23] Hi all, [04:24] I am trying to use the cups web interface to set it up [04:24] I am trying to set up a serial printer. How do I know what port it is attached to? Please PM [04:30] what? [04:31] cups web interface, wtf? [04:31] I mean my machine has two serial ports and I don't know which one the machine is attached two. CUPS shows two ports [04:31] "aptitude -y install lshw" [04:33] Or plug in the printer, and do a "dmesg" [04:42] Thanks for your help [04:42] GoodNight. === johe__ is now known as johe [10:03] Will running "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" redo the necessary grub installation stuff? [10:04] I'm not sure what I should be passing to grub-install to make it work. [10:06] That seems to have worked...I hope it didn't mess anything up. [10:46] New bug: #493100 in openldap (main) "init.d/slapd script reports an error message that could be improved." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/493100 [11:19] hey everyone.. does anyone know a way to get php4 running on Jaunty? I tried installing from source but without success [11:20] Is there an old package location that would work? [11:25] I've got some crap code that gives bloody errors when moved to php5 and I hope it's less work to install php4 on my new server [11:32] how can i know how my server is booted? [11:32] cause i'm on a vps and i can't change boot kernel...the /boot folder is empty [11:41] well you could try pinging it see if it replies [11:42] although if you've nothing in /boot (however the heck that happened), then i doubt it's booted :/ [11:43] how i can select multiple packages and install them [11:46] just type the package names in a list after 'apt-get', so for example, 'apt-get install samba samba-doc bind9' would install those 3 packages with one command [11:48] does anyone know how to resolve conflicts when iinstalling a deb pkg [11:49] normally, if you attempt to install the .deb first using dpkg, then let it moan about dependency errors. then issue an 'apt-get install -f' which should fix the dependences and then install the .deb for you afterwards [11:50] DrNick_: I'm getting a 'libaprutil1 conflicts with php4-mysql ' [11:51] That's different story than dpeendencies, no? This is a conflict with a currently installed package. [11:52] well... it probably does then. some combinations of packages can't be installed together at one time. i believe the man page migth describe a way to force an installation - not that I'm saying that's at all a good idea... [11:53] either that or remove php4-mysql [11:53] (which might be a bad thing) [11:54] yeah, I'm trying to install php4-mysql [11:55] ah, other way around then, remove libaprutil1 [11:56] hm I'll have to look up what that does [11:56] oh that looks important [12:29] how can i change the kernel of my vps? there are no files in the /boot folder...and i don't know how to boot from newly installed kernels.. [12:33] <`jpg> Hey guys, anyone here using Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud? [12:50] Does anyone know where I could go to hire someone to code for my website? [12:52] Bruns: you mean for continuate developing? or occasional things? [12:53] Well, I have a website based on kusaba software. I am wanting to do some drastic changes to it. Also to keep in touch with the person in case I need something. [12:54] i can help you on free-time....4 free [12:54] are you sure? I was wanting to hire. [12:55] i can't offer every-day coding, i'm studying and also developing other sites.. [12:55] Well I don't mean every day. [12:57] hi, i'd like to ask which of the database systems is less resource (both cpu and mem) consuming, mysql or postgresql? [13:25] hm, my /etc/cron.d seem not to be read (jobs there don't get executed), altough cron is running, what may be the reason? [13:28] piotrekm: pastebin your file [13:30] pmatulis: thanks, while pasting it into the form i noticed there's one "0" instead of "*";) [13:31] piotrekm: there you go [13:54] after installing private cloud whiile installtion can i install public cloud [14:31] hey guys im on a karmic server and im just wondering is there a way i can see what file system i have installed? [14:31] eagles0513875: type mount [14:32] jtaji: strange cuz when i look at top [14:32] its showing some interesting processing such as jfscommit jfsio jfssync and xfsdatad and the file system installed is ext3 [14:33] this is on a vps [14:34] any idead jtaji [14:34] eagles0513875: I see the same thing on my Linode [14:35] funny thing this vps is also from linode [14:35] are those jfs and all that for something thats part of their backend [14:36] I'm really not sure [14:36] I'll tell you I'm not worried about it ;) [14:36] thing is i have on this server 350mb of ram and all i have free is bout 26mb [14:37] jtaji: seems like they have a channel on here [14:37] eagles0513875: they do but the one on OFTC is much more active [14:38] ya just noticed [14:38] eagles0513875: also I'm assuming you know how to determine your true free memory? [14:39] ya [14:39] could be an ubuntu 9.10 issue too [14:39] that's what I'm running [14:39] thing is i had it on my laptop near me and no issues of that sort [14:39] same here [14:39] good point [14:40] im wondering if its xen related [14:40] unless xfs isnt the file system but the xen file system [14:41] but jfs? [14:41] true [14:41] xfs isnt anything to do with xen [14:41] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFS_%28file_system%29 [14:41] jfs according to wikipedia means journaled file system [14:43] in that case jfs makes sense since we are using ext3 [14:43] jfs = 64bit journaled filesystem [14:43] I'd assume that's not generic jfs, but the JFS filesystem developed by IBM [14:43] possibly [14:43] i dont know how that would tie into ext3 === alonswartz_ is now known as alonswartz [14:43] !jfs [14:43] !info jfs [14:43] Package jfs does not exist in karmic [14:44] stupid bot [14:45] oh that's right I'm running a linode kernel again... for awhile I was using pv-grub [14:45] so those processes are from the linode kernel [14:46] ahh ok [14:46] kind of pointless though are thtey not [14:47] they don't seem to be using any memory [14:49] i am not sure though whats taking most of the memory on my vps [15:17] I'm having a problem with my belkin wireless usb adapter on karmic ubuntu server, the connection keeps constantly dropping, when it's up there seems to be a lot of latency between internal desktops and the server over ssh [15:17] This is how my /etc/network/interfaces looks http://paste.ubuntu.com/335169/ [15:18] the id for the card is ID 050d:705a Belkin Components F5D7050A Wireless Adapter [15:33] woei, monit rocks big time [15:36] dantalizing [16:03] hi [16:14] i am having severe trouble with 9.10 and raid [16:14] i have a 2-disk raid1 system with 1 removed disk [16:15] if only the working disk is preent, all is fine so far [16:15] but as soon as i plug in the second (empty) disk so i can re-add it to the raid, the system fails to boot [16:16] i don't understand this... the second disk does not even contain a raid superblock, to the best of my knowledge [16:16] New bug: #489619 in phpldapadmin (main) ""Our attempts to find your SCHEMA for "attributetypes" have FAILED"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/489619 [16:18] why does it fuck up the boot process even if i merely plug it in? [16:25] if i boot from a live cd, i don't even see the partitions! [16:25] fdisk shows them, but /proc/partitions does not, it only shows the drives themselves [16:25] wtf is going on here? [16:33] hey folks [16:33] my new system is only showing 2G of memory where it should have 4G [16:33] $ cat /proc/cmdline [16:33] BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic root=/dev/mapper/vg0-root ro quiet splash [16:33] any idea what's up? [16:36] cj: 32-bit? i think you need a special kernel (server kernel) to address more than 2g [16:38] cj: I think you want -generic-pae [16:40] moldy: no, 64 [16:41] $ uname -a [16:41] Linux calcifer 2.6.31-16-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 3 22:07:16 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux [16:42] the BIOS says 4G, as does the site off of which I bought the hardware. I can pull the case off and look at the memory chips, but I believe it's got the memory in it [16:42] hm, not sure if 64-bit systems need the pae extension to address >2g [16:42] i thought they didn't, but maybe i was wrong [16:42] no, pae is only i386 [16:43] cj: what does 'sudo lshw -C memory' tell you [16:44] http://pastebin.com/m4dffc04f [16:45] description: SODIMM Synchronous 1067 MHz (0.9 ns) [empty] [16:45] hurm [16:45] try swapping modules [16:46] jtaji: alrighty. thanks. back in a bit. [16:46] * cj & [17:07] jtaji++ [17:07] $ free | grep '^Mem:' [17:07] Mem: 4047136 910160 3136976 0 51060 295312 [17:16] ubuntu raid is broken [17:16] that stupid prompt "do you really want to start with a degraded raid?" seems to fuck up the boot process [17:16] result: impossible to recover from a drive failure in the usual way. nice. [17:19] !language | moldy [17:19] moldy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [17:20] yeah yeah :p [18:30] hi [18:30] Anyone here have experience with UnixBench, that can help me decipher the results on 2 different VPS's? http://bit.ly/5QZnu0 I am confused why one test took considerably longer to run then the other yet it got a BETTER score? [18:31] Both VPS's running Ubuntu Server 8.04 [18:31] 64bit === dwasp_ is now known as dwasp [18:40] I would like to run ubuntu-server to host 4-5 virtualized ubuntu instances for use in my development environment. Being a dev environment I would like to simply buy a ~$400 machine from Frys to do this. I want to know if it is required for the processor ubuntu-server is running on have the hardware virtualization extensions built-in to use kvm for virtualization? [18:41] I think most cpus have that today [18:41] anyway, you could run virtualbox or xen or something that doesn't require that [18:46] This is my first use of virtualization and I just want to use it to simulate my production env which has 4-5 boxes. Would you recommend virtualbox or xen over kvm in terms of ease of setup? [18:48] dwasp: it really doesn't matter what you use - they do the same thing, more or less [18:49] dwasp: I prefer virtualbox, but that's just my preference since that's what I started using, and I use it in production - three Linux VMs on an opensolaris box [18:50] lo anybody have any thought on vmware server vs virtualbox? [18:51] kpettit: I guess the difference is about the same as linux vs solaris vs *bsd [18:51] Have a 9.10 64bit vmware-server that couldn't keep the vm running, it would die everynight. Traced it down to some lower level stuff that makes it easier to just re-install and use 32bit stuff. [18:51] or vi vs emacs [18:52] virtualbox works well with both 32 and 64bit, same with xen and prolly kvm [18:52] yeah, I hear all that. On the desktop that's true for me, but on the server doing CLI access type stuff I wasn't sure how vmware comares to virtualbox [18:52] well, I use virtualbox in prod [18:52] how do you like the CLI access? [18:52] host os opensolaris, three linux guests [18:52] I use rdp [18:52] for the console [18:52] the commandline interface with VBoxManage and the rest just works [18:53] I've got a Win2003 guest I got from using VMWare conveter. Causing me lots of headaches [18:53] haven't tried converting from vmware - sorry [18:53] If If I can use the vmdk in Virtualbox and do bridging with no problems i think I'll go that route. I like vmware ok but the web GUI is flakey and I'm really pissed about it not being able to keep the guest running [18:54] the vmware converter was pretty slick. the problems I was having with VMware I/O type stuff. I'd do a backup on linux and it'd kill the guest. Inside the guest I'd do a backup and it'd lock up. Anything that did lots of I/O would kill the guest basically. [18:54] try with vbox 3.10 (and /j #vbox) - I think there are some new stuff in the latest version [18:55] Do you know if I can use a vmdk with no problems? [18:55] it's not a spilt one, just a normal 1 file 50GB or so vmdk [18:55] ask on #vbox [18:55] ok. thanks for the feedback [19:01] with ubuntu i managed to join it to my windows domain but im trying to configure network shares in ubuntu to allow access based on group accounts in active directory but its not working out so far anyone have suggestion? === ChrisRut_ is now known as ChrisRut [19:50] 'virtual machine host' i am pretty sure is kvm..it will install even if you do not have kvm capable cpu...is that right? [20:05] teddymills: try on #kvm === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl [20:51] hi, how do i find the path to some server's export (shared over nfs dir) on my network? thnx [20:51] hi, how do i find the path to some server's export (shared over nfs dir) on my network? thnx [20:52] look into /etc/exports on the server [20:53] i can't loginto server [20:53] well, ask someone [20:53] shouldn't it announce it's avail. resources? [20:53] no [20:54] if you're supposed to mount the share, you should have the path [20:54] with nis/ldap you'll use automount [20:55] is it a server on a network you're trying to hack into? [20:55] showmount -e servername [20:56] ah. didn't know that [21:21] what is the best way to change the default runlevel? [21:21] I installed ubuntu-desktop becuase I needed the GUI stuff, but for the most part I want to run it without the GUI [21:23] !runlevel [21:23] In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab. [21:23] ah ok. So what's the best way to edit what starts by default on system boot? [21:25] kpettit: I keep forgetting - something like sudo update-rc remove gdm ? [21:26] guntbert, cool thanks for the help [21:26] kpettit: np - was it actually the right command? [21:26] I used to do the server install's but it just seems easier to do the desktop and turn off stuff. Any problems with doing that approach? [21:28] kpettit: I didn't understand that statement [21:28] For most of my servers I would use ubuntu-server version. I'm wanting to start doing ubuntu-desktop version becuase it has alot o fthe stuff I end up installing anyways [21:29] but didn't know if there was anything different enough in the desktop version that would cause me problems running it as a server [21:29] FYI guntbert that rc-update command doesn't work. [21:30] Looking through the init's gdm is a symlink to upstart-job so I'm trying to figure out how that works [21:30] kpettit: sorry, it must be something similar [21:30] this would be the command though if it was a normal startup "update-rc.d gdm disable" [21:33] kpettit: have you seen http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/documentation ? [21:35] man that new init stuff is a pain in the ass [21:35] each startup script basically has it's own config file that you have to edit. Nothing as simple as a "don't start", got to figure out how that file works [21:35] guntbert, I'm looking at it now, thanks [21:42] <`jpg> Hey any body here runing ubuntu cloud? [21:50] Does anyone have experience sending syslog via a network connection? [21:52] ropetin: be aware that the syslog daemon has been changed from syslog to rsyslog [21:53] guntbert: yeah, I'm looking at using either rsyslog or syslog-ng, but I wondered if either has the option to 'buffer' messages if the remote server is unavailable [21:53] I think I found one of the pay versions of syslog-ng has that feature, but I was hoping to not have to pay for it [21:54] ropetin: I cannot answer that: my purpose was a simple udp catching of logs [21:55] Thanks anyway! [21:58] ropetin: good luck - ah have a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/system/files/CentralLogging-v4-20090901-03.pdf [21:59] Awesome, thank you! [22:06] New bug: #493325 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (universe) "mysqld crashes with large key_buffer (25G)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/493325 [22:46] http://www.sexy-lena.com/?uid=97447 [22:46] http://www.sexy-lena.com/?uid=97447 [23:23] Anybody know what would make /var/spool/postfix/private/auth-client disappear? I had Postfix, Dovecot and Courier running, with Dovecot and Courier both rigged for IMAP, so I uninstalled Courier and now auth-client's gone and nothing I've read has given any indication how to put it back. Even tried using aptitude to reinstall Postfix and Dovecot; no dice. [23:34] hi [23:34] how can i count lines of a txt file using grep? [23:38] Semko: you can use the 'wc' command [23:38] Ninjix, can you give me an example? [23:38] cat file.txt | grep foo | wc -l [23:40] Ninjix, grep shows 0(zero)? [23:40] i am sure they are over a tousand [23:41] try this one [23:41] egrep mmx /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l [23:42] should produce same number as your system CPU cores [23:42] ok [23:42] i will [23:42] i am currently trying "grep itcwww-small.txt |wc -l" [23:42] it takes a lot of time and still havent produced the result [23:42] Semko: you need to tell grep what to search for [23:43] it is itcwww-small.txt [23:43] and i want to see how many lines are there [23:43] ah [23:43] wc -l itcwww-small.txt [23:44] no grep needed [23:44] :) [23:44] Ninjix, thanks [23:44] that worked [23:44] np [23:45] Anybody know postfix and dovecot really well? I've been having a hell of a time getting this working... [23:45] how do i change the vga setting on the ubuntu install screen, on previous versions i've installed it always had a VGA option (usually F4) but now its gone, and i need to change it or it will screw up the display on a virtual machine [23:48] I copied over my /var/www/ from an old system (8.04, to be specific), but now whenever I try to access my site through a browser, I'm getting a 403 error. [23:48] Roath: can you just pass the vga setting you need via the boot line? [23:48] Except, oddly enough, when I try to access /var/www/index.html from within the local network. That works. [23:49] i hope so, but have no idea what to write or where in the boot options to write it [23:49] Roath: what vga mode do you want? [23:49] 640x480x32 [23:50] since its on a virtual machine [23:52] appending vga=786 should work [23:52] Does the apache user need to own stuff now? It's all either 755 for directories or 644 for files, so it shouldn't matter, right? [23:52] Ninjix, after or before quiest -- [23:52] quiet -- [23:53] you can put it after quiet [23:53] trimeta: If you're uploading things from your website, it can't hurt to have www-data own the directory it's going into. [23:53] ok [23:53] quiet just hides the nerdy kernel startup messages [23:54] Ninjix, all it does then is open a "popup" called Boot loader, which says /install/vmlinuz, i can only click OK, then nothing happens [23:54] mgpcoe: That doesn't seem to have helped. [23:55] Roath: which Ubuntu version are you trying? [23:55] trimeta: What are you trying to do? [23:55] 9.10 [23:55] i just downloaded it [23:55] Roath: server or desktop? [23:55] 32bit ubuntu server 9.10 [23:55] Roath: nice... [23:55] mgpcoe: At the moment, figure out why it's giving me a 403 error when I try to access it. [23:56] trimeta: .htaccess maybe? [23:56] i need the server on a virtual machine because it gives me more control when testing web systems and programming than a normal wamp/xamp does [23:56] but usually i can just hit F4 at the disc install screen to select VGA, but on this F4 is Modes [23:56] Ninjix, if it helps i can write the entire boot options line here [23:57] mgpcoe: I tried that, by moving the entire /srv/www (I actually have /srv/www rather than /var/www, but I changed that in sites-available/default) to /srv/www-old and making a new /srv/www which only holds an index.html. It didn't help. [23:58] Roath: afk for a moment [23:58] ok [23:59] OK, hmm...it was one of my sites-enabled that was doing it. Now to figure out which one, and how it was doing that. [23:59] Roath: back