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| jbicha | mhall119|work: what school are you attending? | 14:41 |
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| mhall119 | USF Poly | 14:41 |
| mhall119 | http://poly.usf.edu/ | 14:41 |
| jbicha | & what are you studying? :-) | 14:43 |
| mhall119 | Information Technology | 14:43 |
| jbicha | take all the classes then! | 14:45 |
| mhall119 | I don't have the time or money (or desire) to take everything they offer | 14:45 |
| mhall119 | if I didn't have to work full time and pay for this out of my own pocket (or future pocket, as the case may be), I might consider it | 14:46 |
| jbicha | well just take the important ones then, some of the stuff you can probably learn on your own anyway | 14:47 |
| jbicha | I'm currently doing Intro to XML & Intro to Java & plan to do Computer Architecture & Intro to C++ next term | 14:48 |
| mhall119 | I'm signed up for Comp Networks + Lab, IT Security Management, Data Structures and Human Computer Interface | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | I need to find a humanities or something non-tech for this semester | 14:50 |
| mhall119 | obviously I'm going to drop a few | 14:50 |
| mhall119 | I wanted to take operating systems, but that has a pre-req on the Data Structures | 14:51 |
| mhall119 | I hear the professor makes students run Linux in VirtualBox for their assignments | 14:51 |
| mhall119 | my C programming class had all the students install the GNU compiler tools, which I appreciated | 14:51 |
| mhall119 | oddly, it was my Java Mobile class that required that I program on Windows, go figure | 14:52 |
| jbicha | my Java teacher uses Fedora but not icedtea...for the basic stuff we do, I haven't had a problem with the free Java implementation | 14:56 |
| jbicha | for my Unix class, I was disappointed that the teacher recommended Cygwin; I thought Linux (Ubuntu, for instance) in VirtualBox would encourage the students to realize there's a lot more usefulness in Linux than just a black & white command line | 14:58 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 15:05 |
| mhall119 | is icedtea still around? | 15:05 |
| mhall119 | I thought it was incorporated into OpenJDK | 15:05 |
| mhall119 | jbicha: that is kind of sad | 15:06 |
| mhall119 | at least a BSD or OpenSolaris for a Unix class | 15:06 |
| mhall119 | morning sbalneav | 15:06 |
| jbicha | ubuntu still calls the firefox plugin icedtea... | 15:06 |
| mhall119 | ah | 15:06 |
| mhall119 | I've always used sun-java anyway | 15:06 |
| mhall119 | though that may not be in Ubuntu 10.04 | 15:07 |
| jbicha | mhall119: the professor was one of those old, crusty Unix types :-) | 15:07 |
| mhall119 | jbicha: even less reason to like Cygwin then | 15:07 |
| jbicha | very occasionally I run across some app that doesn't work right in icedtea but I don't care about the app enough to bother with it | 15:08 |
| jbicha | well it was useful in that I had never installed cygwin before but...I mean if I have the ability to install random apps then what would I still be doing on WinXP or whatever anyway? | 15:09 |
| mhall119 | yeah | 15:20 |
| mhall119 | I install Cygwin whenever I have to use Windows at work | 15:20 |
| mhall119 | just so I can have bash and grep, really | 15:20 |
| mhall119 | and MinTTy and ssh | 15:21 |
| ogra | alkisg, sbalneav, have you guys seen nubae around ? he pushed hard for the sugar stuff to get into ubuntu and they are about to remove it from the archive (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2009-December/006414.html) | 15:51 |
| alkisg | ogra: I've seen him maybe a week ago, but he doesn't come frequently here or in #ltsp anymore... The logbot is down for 10 days, and I've tried to ping him to get it up, but I got no response | 15:52 |
| alkisg | I'll try to forward the email you send to his personal mail | 15:52 |
| ogra | ah, well, i just wanted to give him an opportunity to shout | 15:52 |
| sbalneav | ogra: No, I haven't | 15:52 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, I couldn't see the exact reason why they want to yank it | 15:53 |
| ogra | just to clean the archive before LTS | 15:53 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, but howcome they're not in debian, licensing? | 15:54 |
| ogra | if someone takes care of maintenance etc they wont, the point is that these packages are not from debian and nobody in ubuntu maintained them since hardy | 15:54 |
| ogra | well, if you look at squeak, that was licensed very badly but distributable ... which is why i packaged it in breezy ... | 15:55 |
| alkisg | Doesn't scratch and some others depend on squeak? | 15:55 |
| alkisg | etoys... | 15:55 |
| ogra | laser took that over and at some point when the licensing was changed upstream debian pulled squeak in ... but with different package naming scheme | 15:56 |
| ogra | so my/laserjocks squeak packages are obsolete and the debian package should be used | 15:56 |
| sbalneav | ogra: Later on this week I'm going to submit some packaging work I've done to REVU. For the process of getting MOTU|whatever replaces is | 15:57 |
| sbalneav | it. | 15:57 |
| ogra | cool ! | 15:57 |
| ogra | ping me if you need a reviewer | 15:57 |
| sbalneav | I've packaged 2 things from scratch, and done a merge on one package, and I'll do another merge this week. | 15:57 |
| ogra | wow | 15:57 |
| sbalneav | yeah, I'll hit you and LaserJock|highvoltage up | 15:57 |
| sbalneav | they | 15:58 |
| sbalneav | they're in my ppa | 15:58 |
| sbalneav | I did irssi-xmpp-plugin (update to 0.50) and cnetworkmanager | 15:58 |
| sbalneav | Plus my work on sabayon | 15:58 |
| ogra | nice | 15:58 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: hmm? | 16:19 |
| sbalneav | I might hit you up for revu | 16:22 |
| sbalneav | check out my ppa | 16:23 |
| sbalneav | I've been doing some packaging | 16:23 |
| sbalneav | cnetworkmanager I'm proud of: I did that one from scratch. | 16:23 |
| sbalneav | I also wrote a proper manpage for it. | 16:23 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: great :) | 16:30 |
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| highvolt1ge | sbalneav: so cnetworkmanager makes it easy to configure wifi connections from the command line? | 18:30 |
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| sbalneav | highvoltage: yep | 18:31 |
| sbalneav | cnetworkmanager -n shows you what networks are around | 18:31 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: nice | 18:31 |
| ogra | like nm-tool does ? | 18:31 |
| sbalneav | you can set wep and wap keys | 18:31 |
| sbalneav | nm-tool only shows you things | 18:32 |
| ogra | yep | 18:32 |
| sbalneav | cnetworkmanager actually allows you to SET things | 18:33 |
| sbalneav | connect to a network, up/down an interface, etc. | 18:33 |
| ogra | yep | 18:33 |
| sbalneav | It's a nice tool. | 18:33 |
| * ogra knows cnetworkmanager and is sad upstream didnt include it into nm-tool | 18:33 | |
| sbalneav | yeah, cnetworkmanager should really just become PART of networkmanager | 18:34 |
| ogra | but well ... thats upstream ... | 18:34 |
| ogra | right | 18:34 |
| highvoltage | I probably shouldn't install it on a machine that has network manager installed right? | 18:34 |
| sbalneav | No, go ahead | 18:34 |
| ogra | highvoltage, its a frontend | 18:34 |
| sbalneav | right | 18:34 |
| sbalneav | it's no different from the little gnome-nm-applet thingy | 18:34 |
| ogra | like knetworkmanager or nm-applet | 18:34 |
| sbalneav | other than command-liney :) | 18:34 |
| sbalneav | For, you know, people who like to type and/or script cool things. | 18:35 |
| ogra | weird folks | 18:35 |
| highvoltage | heh | 18:35 |
| sbalneav | Hush, you. :) | 18:35 |
| ogra | you mean there are people that dont /click/ on things ? | 18:36 |
| ogra | scary !!! | 18:36 |
| sbalneav | This gui stuff's a passing fad. | 18:36 |
| highvoltage | my father calls them "linux nerds" | 18:36 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | i'm a clicker | 18:36 |
| sbalneav | I still got my wyse60 terminal at the blistering speed of 19.2kbps. | 18:37 |
| highvoltage | I was wondering where those sounds came from | 18:37 |
| ogra | sbalneav, so next you should make gpm work with hal ;) | 18:37 |
| ogra | then we can click on things in cnetworkmanager !! | 18:37 |
| sbalneav | Come the apocolypse, WE'LL SEE WHO'S GONNA BE LAUGHING!!!!111one | 18:37 |
| * sbalneav dons his survivalist gear. | 18:37 | |
| Ahmuck-Jr | it won't be linux nerds | 18:38 |
| mhall119 | apt-get install apocalypse-survival-tools | 18:38 |
| mhall119 | apt-get install apocalypse-survival-tools-dev | 18:38 |
| highvoltage | stgraber: what do you need in order to become a revu reviewer? | 18:38 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | it'll be peeps who took time to visually identify plants, build mechanics, etc. | 18:38 |
| ogra | highvoltage, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU ? | 18:39 |
| mhall119 | Ahmuck-Jr: ners will have a solar panel and a local copy of Wikipedia | 18:39 |
| mhall119 | we'll be the post-apocalyptic medicine-men | 18:40 |
| sbalneav | Ahmuck-Jr: Sure it will. We're people used to doing things for ourselved. | 18:40 |
| sbalneav | Selves | 18:40 |
| stgraber | highvoltage: any motu can vote IIRC | 18:40 |
| highvoltage | ah I need to contact an admin | 18:41 |
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