=== freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [01:43] looks like kdepimlibs isn't in the kubuntu-dev package set [02:04] JontheEchidna: I can look at it. [02:04] JontheEchidna: Is it ready? [02:11] Yeah, I looked over it and it looks good. [02:11] ScottK: ^ [02:11] OK. Grabbing. [02:12] JontheEchidna: Looks like I want to pull from bzr, right? [02:13] yeah [02:16] Uploaded. [02:17] JontheEchidna: I'll have kdeplasma-addons sorted shortly. [02:18] this kdeedu test build in pbuilder has been going for 3 hours [02:18] is this normal? [02:19] maco: Could be. kdebase-workspace build time on the buildd's almost doubled 4.3 => 4.4. [02:20] its at [02:20] [ 98%] Generating index.cache.bz2 [02:20] cd ../doc/blinken && /usr/bin/meinproc4 --check --cache /tmp/buildd/kdeedu-4.3.80/obj-i486-linux-gnu/doc/blinken/index.cache.bz2 /tmp/buildd/kdeedu-4.3.80/doc/blinken/index.docbook [02:20] when i tried this earlier today and finally had to kill it so i could turn off my laptop (no suspend), it was sitting at the same spot [02:21] That same issue has appeared with kdeutils [02:22] I believe eventually Quintasan just patched the docs from building [02:25] hrm :-/ [02:38] JontheEchidna: do you mean he removed the -docs from the debian/control? [02:39] maco: He patched cmakelists.txt so that the docs wouldn't be built in the first place [02:48] It's probably worth running it through strace or something at some point, but not tonight. [02:48] ... to find out if it's stuck or just really slow. [02:48] JontheEchidna: ok [03:00] JontheEchidna: Fixed plasma-addons uploaded. [03:01] JontheEchidna: I did pimlibs too. What should I look at now? [03:05] I've not looked at anything further tonight; I'm actually in windows at the moment [03:08] hrmm i cant figure out from the CMakeLists.txt what does the docs. there arent doc/ directories for the games and there isnt one doc/ directory they all share, and i dont even see anything other than normal code files and no mention of docs in the cmake :-/ [03:10] Wow, qt4-x11 built on sparc. [03:10] We're no longer dead on ALL ports. [03:17] Doing oxygen-icons (135mb tarball, yeah!) === m4v_ is now known as m4v [03:17] Yeah I laughed at that [03:18] Oxygen is by far the lagest aspect of KDE [03:33] where aspect has the only definiiton of tarball [03:34] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/PackagingLegend#preview [03:34] Can someone review for accuracy ? [03:51] Doing kdegames [03:52] JontheEchidna: Just read your blog on bko Strange comments === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [04:05] Next time anyone sees rgreening around, please remind him about bzr add. [04:06] kdegames done [04:06] JontheEchidna: Nice and Andreas posts a few hours after you [04:06] ScottK: bzr add what? [04:06] bzr add the new files in the packaging or the won't be there for the guy that reviews it. [04:07] ok [04:10] Done kdesdk now. [04:10] nixternal: You can join in uploading stuff, you know. [04:18] sdk done. Doing utils [04:20] Meh. [04:32] Utils done. Webdev next. [04:49] This is probably going to be the last one for tonight for me. [04:50] maco: Getting close on edu? [04:50] ScottK: i dont know how to tell it to skip docs :( [04:51] ScottK: jon the enchilada mentioned Quintasan commenting out of the CMakelists.txt but theres nothing about docs in them and no doc-specific directories that i can find... :-/ [04:51] maco: look at kdeutils and see what he did there. [04:51] ok [04:52] umm...wait, look where for it? [04:54] Archive [04:54] oh its in lucid? ok [04:55] Yep [04:55] Source is anyway, none of this will build until we upload kde4libs. [05:15] webdev uploaded. [05:16] Riddell: Welcome back from vacation. Please keep uploading (we're doing kde4libs last this time). Status is https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [05:18] Riddell: We still need a (afaik not yet finished) Qt4 patch for phonon and we had to disable kio_sftp pending libssh MIR (filed). [05:19] Riddell: I warned slangasek at the release team meeting that things might get a little sporting for Alpha 1 and this KDE release. Up until we upload kd4libs, there is the option to wait. [05:20] Good night all. [05:23] Good night [05:39] maco: You'd be interested in CMakeList.txt in doc/ in kdeutls, at least comment out doc in top level CMakeList.txt [05:39] Quintasan|Szel: im working on kdeedu. there is no doc/ directory :( [05:39] hence my confusion [05:40] maco: and nothing in top level CMakeList.txt? [05:40] maco: try find . -name *.docbook :P [05:40] Quintasan|Szel: wow i fail at reading [05:41] * maco headdesk [05:41] * Quintasan|Szel is heading school [05:42] this is most supid thing invented, additional maths at 7:10, right before normal lessons [05:42] I had to get up at six :/ [05:42] ewwwwww [05:43] I was like "lol three hours of sleep" few hours ago [05:44] well, anyways, what packages are left? [05:44] Quintasan|Szel: I think I had one better [05:45] we had a single 2 hour lecture as our only class 8:00 on Friday [05:45] after having no classes after 12:00 thursday [05:46] The class? [05:46] Pyschology [05:46] lol [05:46] I swear that was some kinda inside joke. [05:47] You really want us to turn up for the earliest class we have for the entire week on the last day of the week with no other classes or activites for the rest of the day for a non interactive lecture ? [05:47] Uh huh. Lets see how many people turn up for that. [05:48] awsome :P [05:48] awesome even [05:50] urgh and I'm at school :/ [05:52] It would be nice if ivan responded to my mail [05:52] ScottK: the Lancelot dev was here? [06:15] ScottK: Hows the update coming along? [06:15] He's asleep [06:15] *mumbles* [06:16] This whole no workspace thingie is a little crazy lol [06:18] :-) [06:19] Keeps crashing on load. The thing I don't get is why when I log in, it will bring up the login dialog again and then it crashes [06:19] maco: Ping [06:20] DasKreech: whats up? [06:21] maco: Do you know anything about bug reports marking a package as not a Genuine Ubuntu Package? [06:21] DasKreech: yeah, means the package is from a PPA or pbuilder [06:21] the "apt-cache policy" output wasnt approved [06:22] Right. Do the 4.3.4 packages currently have this status? [06:24] And if so is there a way to post bugs properly with that status? [06:25] are they in a ppa? if so, then yes they do [06:25] i think you have to go to launchpad and file in the web interface instead of using ubuntu-bug [06:26] if you go to the package's actual page on the bugtracker, you can file bugs. its just if you try to file bugs right at /ubuntu/+bugs that itll yell at you [06:28] kk [07:41] * kb9vqf hates Qt4 with a passion [07:41] On my high-uptime server, if I leave a user logged in for more than a day or two Qt4 apps won't start [07:41] at all? [07:41] Nope, not at all [07:41] X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 [07:41] over and over... [07:42] well, technically a variant of BadWindow [07:42] I was about to ask doesn't that error come up all the time? [07:42] I dunno...here's a pastebin of mythfrontend: http://pastebin.com/d70c6820c [07:43] Other Qt4 apps are similar [07:43] this is under Karmic BTW [07:44] Hmm that's pretty bad. [07:44] Can't say I've seen that since KDE 4.1 [07:46] Well, Qt4 is doing something it shouldn't :)\ [07:46] I'll leave that up to the Qt4 folks here to decipher if anyone else sees it--I'll just stop using Qt4 apps ;0) [07:47] * kb9vqf goes to bed [07:47] #qt is open but not sure they are awake [07:51] I should too [08:01] ok i updated to Qt 4.6 [08:01] printer-applet crash stoped [08:01] ;) [08:01] Grats [08:01] thx DasKreech :) [09:15] morning [09:16] morning [09:18] Riddell: morning [09:21] Riddell: should I be poking now and then about the bugfix merges, or is it on the todo list and will not be forgotten? [09:26] amichair: yeah keep poking [09:27] I don't think I've heard back from mvo about the software-properties changes so I'll probably just go ahead and merge that [09:31] ok, thanks :-) [09:37] why is kde4libs being uploaded last? [09:38] * jussi01 waves to Riddell [09:38] <_StefanS_> Riddell: do you know about an issue with knetworkmanager giving segfaults on logouts ? [09:38] <_StefanS_> Riddell: just wondering if I'm the only one experiencing it [09:38] _StefanS_: I've not seen that [09:39] <_StefanS_> Riddell: ok, it might be a local problem of mine then, probably my kde profile [09:39] oh, ScottK wants everything to dep-wait on it [09:40] Riddell: hope your holidays were refreahing :) and welcome back :) [09:45] * Riddell uploads kdebase, kdegraphics and kdepim-runtime [09:46] not touching kdepim upstream says it's broken [09:46] or kdebindings, I believe pykde needs some updating, [09:50] hum, bzr on launchpad doesn't want to work, maybe I shaln't be uploading [09:56] Riddell: I'm doing kdepim, I almost finished, so I should leave the package? [09:58] Lex79: no carry on but we'll need to wait for upstream to tell us what patches it needs before uploading [09:58] it might need patches to qt [09:59] and/or itself [10:00] Riddell: ok, sandsmark he said when he finished his patch for phonon he pokes me, I ask him every day :P [10:09] Riddell: kdepim issue is resolved - see e-mail from Allen Winter from tonight [10:09] Riddell: trunk patch is r1059603 [10:09] Riddell: 4.3 branch => r1059605 [10:11] * Lure notices that it was sent to kdepim-users and not kde-packager's... [10:13] does he say anything about qt? [10:17] Lure: so, I was talking to ScottK and he agreed that you should apply for per-package upload privledges to kubuntu-dev, then we would direct a recommendation to the developer membership board which then implements the permissions [10:17] Riddell: that it was behavioral change in qt 4.6 about expecting some rectangle to be initialized [10:17] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdepim-users&m=126015050812564&w=2 [10:19] Riddell: more background is actually here: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2009-December/003453.html [10:19] apachelogger: thanks [10:19] apachelogger: kubuntu-dev has regular meetings or is this done on kubuntu meetings? [10:20] Lure: seperate meetings organized as needed [10:21] Lure: I suppose you would follow https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDevelopers#Applying for kubuntu-dev membership [10:21] apachelogger: thanks, will do that [10:22] just focus on digikam and kipi-plugins in your application === sfs is now known as _StefanS_ [11:06] How we are standing with packaging? [11:17] decently [11:30] * Riddell uploads kde4libs [11:33] wow, kubuntu_19_no_indent_kickoff_subtext.diff got merged? that must have made seele's day [11:34] Quintasan|Szel: I didn't hear from the lancelot dev, just went with soversion 0 because that's what it said in CMakeLists.txt. [11:34] DarkwingDuck: Uploading's going along nicely. Shouldn't be too long. [11:55] ScottK: did you have time to look into digikam/kipi-plugins backport request? [11:55] bug 481851 and bug 481856 [11:55] Launchpad bug 481851 in karmic-backports "backport digikam 1.0.0~rc-1ubuntu1 to karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/481851 [11:55] Launchpad bug 481856 in karmic-backports "backport kipi-plugins 0.9.0-1ubuntu1 to Karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/481856 [12:06] !info gnupg lucid [12:06] gnupg (source: gnupg): GNU privacy guard - a free PGP replacement. In component main, is important. Version 1.4.9-4ubuntu7 (lucid), package size 934 kB, installed size 4996 kB [12:09] question about the qt4-multimedia package: is this that infamous Brisbane stuff? [12:09] (in the experimental PPA) [12:12] yes [12:13] jussi01: normally i do try to solve the probs but iam lost in knetworkmanager so far :) [12:20] hmm, I have a project (fetched from Git), it has a debian/ dir in it [12:20] how to make a package of that? [12:20] (sorry, forgot again...) [12:20] markey: debuild [12:20] thanks :) [12:21] hmm [12:21] I don't seem to have that [12:21] ah [12:21] apt-get install devscripts [12:21] devscripts [12:21] yes [12:23] args, it started some "postfix" configuration tool [12:23] no idea what info it wants from me [12:23] is that important? [12:24] * markey shrugs [12:24] got it [12:26] I don't think that's important, one of the scripts in devscripts probably needs it but nothing I've used [12:27] hmm btw, are there any known bugs with Karmic, regarding USB devices? [12:27] my devices are randomly not found [12:27] I think I heard some other guy has the same issue [12:29] woops [12:29] gpg: /tmp/debsign.IduhC84E/offlineimap_6.2.0.dsc: clearsign failed: secret key not available [12:29] debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting.... [12:29] what now? :) [12:29] needs a key? [12:29] ah [12:29] worked anyway [12:29] got a .deb file [12:29] great [12:30] there we go :) [12:30] worked nicely [12:34] yeah that just means it isn't signed, which you only want if you're uploading to an archive anyway [12:35] my USB devices work fine in karmic [12:35] worth checking if hal sees them or not === cortex_sk is now known as cortex|sk [13:24] There's a new arora. I am packaging now for Lucid. Anyone care to be available to upload it? === _newbie_ is now known as dantti [13:25] It will be required for Lucid as the current will ftbfs with qt 4.6 [13:26] rgreening: can do [13:26] cool. ty Riddell. I see we do not have arora in our bzr.. should we add it? [13:27] are we likely to have several people working on it at any one time? [13:27] we do have packaging branches of most packages now if you feel the need but I don't think it's needed [13:28] hmm... maybe not [13:28] ok [13:28] Im pretty much the arora king [13:28] ha [13:29] Riddell: I'll let you know as soon as it's built. I'll upload to my PPA so you can grab what you need. [13:30] oh, actually, I'll upload to the ninja PPA to ensure it builds aghainst qt4.6 from there.... [13:45] good morning all [13:45] o/ [13:46] why it's the lovely JontheEchidna [13:47] Riddell: arora is uploaded to ninjas PPA. I'll let you know when it builds for Lucid. What will we do for Karmic? Suggestions? I'd like to have it build against qt4.6, which means we leave it wherever we house backports for Karmic KDE... [13:48] hi JontheEchidna :) [13:49] rgreening: it can go in experimental short term. if we backports qt4.6 and kde 4.4 to karmic it can live alongside that [13:50] will experimental have qt4.6? I believe Lex79 has started karmic backport of 4.4 [13:50] rgreening: qt 4.6 for karmic is already in staging [13:51] :) [13:51] cool [13:51] * txwikinger is tired of all those bugs all the time :( [13:51] Hi Riddell - Did you have a nice holiday? [13:51] Lex79: I'll upload arora there shortly then... [13:51] rgreening: ok [13:51] txwikinger: lots of snow [13:52] Lex79: in the backports, I am assuming we are reverting the boost back to 1.38 from 1.40... correct? [13:52] rgreening: yes [13:52] We had snow here too. A good half meter. [13:52] k. I'll try and give a hand today to backport... [13:52] Did we finish the Lucid stuff? [13:53] Lure: I did not. I do think that we ought to have the crashes fixed in -updates. Would it be possible to get patches for that too? [13:53] rgreening: no, I have to finish kdepim and maco kdeedu [13:55] ok... did bindings build after? [13:56] Riddell: One thought I had on kde4libs: Agateau did his BIC change for the systray stuff after the beta was done. Do we want to patch our kde4libs with that change so we don't need to worry about rebuilding stuff later? [13:56] rgreening: we need to wait a fix for pykde4, doesn't want build [13:56] rgreening: I believe we're doing to skip bindings. [13:56] ScottK: hmm, I already uploaded [13:56] Riddell: Never mind then. [13:56] lol [13:56] I should have thought of it yesterday [13:56] bindings isn't in the PPA though [13:57] I have this list-missing files for kdepim now http://pastebin.ca/1705550 [13:57] Riddell: Did you see we picked up sparc with qt4-x11 4.6.0? So we aren't completely dead on ports (or course we'd pick the one that's unusable due to upstart). [13:57] akonadi stuff is already in kdepim-runtime package [13:58] and libmessageviewer* dunno where should go.... [13:58] Riddell: arora for Lucid should be good to go from PPA (of course need to update changelog to rm ~ppa2) [13:59] ScottK: more importantly the timer is running on arm now [13:59] Lex79: where does it come from? [14:00] Riddell: Yes, although since that was a gcc bug, I'm not optimistic. [14:00] rgreening: ok [14:01] Riddell: kdepim, but I don't know where libmessageviewer* come from [14:01] Riddell: Hehe.. snow is starting here as well now.. I think rgreening got snowed in ;) [14:02] txwikinger: 38cm.. bah, that's nothing :P [14:02] haha [14:02] well.. more than we had so far rgreening [14:02] Riddell: printer applet crash is not more after upgrading to 4.6 qt dont know if this was the solution but last update seems to fix this bug [14:02] for sure [14:03] rgreening: arora is due a merge from Debian, are you able to do that? [14:05] where does konqueror have the sessions saved / to be restored saved? [14:06] ah found it [14:07] Riddell: I can look. I doubth there are any differences, as the upstream wants up to be as vanilla as possible and i have been :) [14:07] Riddell: ok, found, libmessageviewer* is part of libkdepim4 [14:08] too bad the bug and all the evidence is gone :D [14:10] Why is apachelogger questioning the existence of kubuntu? [14:11] too drink [14:11] read the mail :P [14:11] * apachelogger knew the subject is too offensive -.0 [14:14] apachelogger: I don't think the subject is too offensive, I just think it is phrase too harshly [14:14] phrased [14:15] * txwikinger would have rather said: What is the vision of Kubuntu for the next year [14:15] that is not what I asked for [14:15] Well.. if there is no vision you end up with your question [14:16] Riddell: There are a couple of changes to merge from Debian (if that's what you meant)... I'll grab those an incorporate into my build... [14:16] so, you can wait on upload of arora for a little bit... [14:16] otherway around, you cannot define a vision without knowing the reason of existance [14:16] eventually the vision is partially defined by it already [14:16] apachelogger: cognito ergo sum [14:17] say google is there to organize all the information of menkind [14:17] hence its long-term vision is to collect, organize and present all information it an get [14:18] apachelogger: that is its mission, not its vision [14:18] hmm... nm Riddell, that would be a sync, which is not what you asked... go ahead and upload the arora.. I'll send our diff's to Debian (which is what you were asking) I bleive.. [14:18] anyhow, the reason of existance originates in a problem [14:19] the problem being that information is unorganized and unusable and ugly and decentralized and whatnot [14:19] so what is the problem kubuntu originated from [14:19] * txwikinger rofls... now Kubuntu is a problem [14:20] kde svn 1059603 [14:20] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1059603&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1059603 | give the scene an initial view rectangle; else all hell breaks loose. should fix the initial view being month view. MERGE: e4... [14:20] Lex79: ^ [14:20] Fixes the KOrg crash with Qt 4.6 [14:21] apachelogger: 1) Not everything that humanity does originates in solving a problem - you are too centred on Engineering [14:21] uhm quassel crashes [14:21] so kubuntu is here because someone got drunk and thought it would be fun to prefix ubuntu with a k? [14:21] 2) The solution that Kubuntu provides is a KDE based debian-like system for end-users [14:22] so kubuntu provides a solution to no problem? [14:22] no wonder that doesnt work out [14:22] apachelogger: Well.. if you want to say it in that way.. Kubuntu is Riddell's fault :D [14:22] JontheEchidna: ok I will add [14:22] thanks [14:22] txwikinger: that does not define the problem, does it? [14:23] what does not define the problem? [14:23] Riddell: seriously? what's the commit note say? [14:23] and why do you need a problem? [14:23] txwikinger: kubuntu being Riddell's fault [14:23] txwikinger: there is a solution but no problem [14:23] the picture is incomplete [14:23] apachelogger: 2) The solution that Kubuntu provides is a KDE based debian-like system for end-users [14:24] txwikinger: but what makes it different from debian+kde? [14:24] that is not the question [14:24] why not do debian+kde [14:24] apachelogger: My problem with the question is it's hard for me to answer it just in the context of Kubuntu. For me, Kubuntu is at the interstection of Debian, KDE, and Ubuntu that makes it interesting. [14:24] debian does not have the same end-user focus tsimpson [14:24] why does Ubuntu exist? just take debian+gnome [14:24] tsimpson: Non-ancient releases for one. [14:24] there you have a problem [14:25] problem uno: debian does ancient releases [14:25] solution: implement kubuntu [14:25] clearly that is not all, but one part of it [14:25] ScottK, Riddell, JontheEchidna: sandsmark ! news ? :P [14:25] no, the Qt build system still refuses to pick up the right include paths :> [14:26] Urgh. [14:26] * txwikinger thinks students have far too much time to think about philosphical paradoxa [14:26] Lex79: I think that was the problem you were running in to with the pulse stuff [14:26] Thanks for the update. [14:26] JontheEchidna: yep [14:26] * txwikinger wonders if apacheloggercan find a solution to that problem [14:26] fun... [14:26] JontheEchidna: that's the problem, patching Qt build system [14:26] apachelogger: Another factor is the Ubuntu approach to community that is very different than in Debian. [14:27] different in what ways, and what makes it superior to the debian way [14:27] * txwikinger does not know any debian LoCos [14:27] Ubuntu is less RTFM [14:27] rgreening: what changes exist in the arora packaging since we last merged, and can we include those? [14:27] txwikinger: there is no paradox in attaching a problem to a solution and a solution to a problem [14:28] one cannot exist without the other obviously [14:28] More collaborative, in some ways too. [14:28] apachelogger: Well.. it is a little bit like the chicken and the egg [14:28] of course it is [14:28] and as I said before.... humanity is not solely problem-centric [14:28] but since we have a good idea of what the solution looks like, we can try to reproduce the problem [14:29] txwikinger: you yourself also said that kubuntu solves something :P [14:29] Well apachelogger - and I am very content with that [14:30] * Riddell uploads 4.3.4 kde-l10n to updates PPA [14:30] Kubuntu solved txwikinger's problem of finding a good distro that he is happy to use [14:30] apachelogger: case closed :p [14:30] apachelogger: Ubuntu approach is more collaborative in many ways (and not just CoC). For example if I want to make a change that touches a bunch of packages, I get a spec approved and then just do it. In Debian I'd have to go convince every maintainer. [14:30] txwikinger: finding a good distro is not a problem :P [14:30] indeed it is more of a solution path [14:31] ScottK: I forgot how to upload stuff :p [14:31] you find that all distros suck because of A and B and C, hence you search for a godo distro, finding kubuntu [14:31] nixternal: I'm not suprised. [14:31] problem - path - solution [14:31] * txwikinger thinks we need to start at the beginning and define the term "problem" [14:31] ScottK: telnet right? or is it ftp? [14:31] :p [14:32] nixternal: Well.. too long on the bicycle? Sucked all the oxygen out of your brain? [14:32] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem [14:32] * txwikinger finds that Wikipedia does not satisfy a truly academic standard and needs at least another relevant reference apachelogger [14:34] txwikinger: http://scholar.google.com knock yourself out [14:34] ScottK: there, you could write that :) [14:34] well.. not sure that scholar.google.com has a higher standard than wikipedia [14:36] oh well [14:36] * txwikinger is going to paint a painting and afterwoods ponders what problem that painting has solved [14:36] how does one put that [14:36] google scholar is an index [14:36] s/afterwoods/afterwards/ [14:36] wikipedia is a encyclopedia [14:36] a bit of a difference [14:37] apachelogger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_problems [14:37] sensible paper would be appreciated :P [14:38] apachelogger has a philosophical problem in the existence of Kubuntu... let's start refine the problem [14:39] * apachelogger is wondering how it became his problem, but oh well.. [14:40] apachelogger: Well I think you are the only one who has raised it :D [14:41] * txwikinger is in a good mood today and has fun pulling apachelogger's leg [14:43] Riddell: no debian changes... just ubuntu ones... my mistake [14:45] Riddell: let me review the patches again... wait on upload. [14:46] rgreening: there are changes in debian [14:47] hmm...https://merges.ubuntu.com/a/arora/arora_0.10.1-1ubuntu1.patch [14:47] looks like only ubuntu stuff [14:47] rgreening: there's the changelog if nothing else :) [14:48] rgreening: I presume patches 01 04 and 05 come from upstream? has 06 been sent upstream? [14:49] Riddell: yeah, Im going to review these.. give me a few [14:50] Riddell: you added 06.. did you send to upstream? [14:50] don't think I did [14:51] hehe. I'll talk to upstream about it [14:53] JontheEchidna: I pushed kdepim to bzr with fix for korg crash, I have to go now. [14:53] thanks [14:55] rgreening: ok I'll merge in Debian's changelog and upload [14:56] Riddell: wait till I review the patches again... [14:56] give me a few more minutes... [14:57] Riddell: patch 01 looks like it nevewr got applied upstream in release 0.10.2 [14:57] which is odd [14:59] does upstream have a trunk? [14:59] yeah, Im wondering if the 0.10.2 release is just a fix for the FTBFS on qt 4.6 [15:00] but icefox isnt around [15:01] the sources have a small diff so I'd expect it is [15:02] apachelogger: The bots in #kubuntu-bugs are confused. Do you have the power to kill one? [15:04] Riddell: yeah, apparantly looking at trunk and the 0.10.2 release, they are significantly different. Im guessing icefox released 0.10.2 as a pure bugfix to the one issue... FTBFS against qt4.6, so go ahead and upload 0.10.2 as provided. [15:04]