| guest_ | how do you capture the output of netcat to a text file tried nc -zw2 xxx.xx.xxx. | more >>some.txt ? I cant figure it out | 00:01 |
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| lordganesh | is there any partition managerfor kde | 00:30 |
| Dragnslcr | !info partitionmanager | lordganesh | 00:38 |
| ubottu | lordganesh: partitionmanager (source: partitionmanager): partition manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-0ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 726 kB, installed size 2848 kB | 00:38 |
| lordganesh | Dragnslcr: it doesn't show any devices mounted | 00:42 |
| yesitjustme | kubuntu 9.10 doesn't have disk utility? | 00:49 |
| nositelicense | sure | 00:55 |
| yesitjustme | sure? | 00:56 |
| nositelicense | >aplications>system>disk utility | 00:56 |
| The_Journey | how do I start the plasma-widget-daisy from this http://lechio.freehostia.com/daisy.html#mark1 | 01:06 |
| cuznt | where does one find the MBR | 01:10 |
| cuznt | !MBR | 01:10 |
| ubottu | grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. | 01:10 |
| nanosnack | if there is an expirienced user that would be willing to answer some very silly questions? | 01:36 |
| scorchgeek | if you say what they are, maybe :) | 01:36 |
| genii | nanosnack: Best to just ask whichever question you have, someone who knows an answer will take it up | 01:37 |
| nanosnack | I was trying to install VLC, I looked at the Package Manager, I took a guess on which one to install, it seemed to do... something? needless to say, from a beginners perspective, nothing in linux is straightforward | 01:40 |
| nanosnack | so I just don't know what I'm doing | 01:40 |
| nanosnack | I look at tutorials and they don't bother to explain the very basics. and that's what I (and I'm guessing millions of people) need to know | 01:40 |
| nanosnack | when you can't just download a program, and you can't use what appears to be an "add program" function, what are you supposed to do? | 01:40 |
| nanosnack | this is what beginners normally ask? | 01:40 |
| genii | nanosnack: The package manager is where you normally install programs, yes. Some programs do not have for instance a graphical component and so it may seem sometimes nothing was installed | 01:41 |
| scorchgeek | the simplest way is just to install it through the package manager, which seems to be what you did. However, you may need to know the name of the program and type it into a terminal window to actually launch it. | 01:41 |
| r00t_ninja | There is a package called VLC | 01:41 |
| r00t_ninja | that is the one you want | 01:42 |
| nanosnack | ....am I alone? | 01:42 |
| nanosnack | alright, I searched for VLC on the search bar, and "run vlc" came up, so it's there | 01:45 |
| r00t_ninja | ur not alone | 01:45 |
| nanosnack | so why doesn't it have a nice little graphic with a spot in the multimedia section, eh? | 01:45 |
| r00t_ninja | it does | 01:45 |
| nanosnack | what's this "installing things in secret and then hiding it from me" business? | 01:46 |
| r00t_ninja | did you install the main package called vlc | 01:46 |
| nanosnack | It doesn't, you get a free beer if you can find it | 01:46 |
| r00t_ninja | it did for me | 01:46 |
| genii | nanosnack: VLC itself is a command-line app | 01:46 |
| nanosnack | yup, it was called vlc and some gibberish | 01:46 |
| r00t_ninja | run the comand: sudo apt-get install vlc | 01:47 |
| r00t_ninja | to double check you installed it | 01:47 |
| Scunizi | nanosnack: there are two different methods of placing a shortcut icon on the menu.. kubuntu/ubuntu uses one method but some programs use a different method.. remember there are different repositories for the installlable programs.. "Main" is pretty polished.. "Universe" sometimes has these quirks.. also some programs install and place an icon but it won't show up until the next boot.. why .. I don't know. | 01:48 |
| genii | nanosnack: To answer your PM'd message, my responses to you are in orange because your IRC client is highlighting then since I directed them towards you by using your nickname within the message | 01:49 |
| nanosnack | genii: thank you | 01:50 |
| r00t_ninja | is there some kind of desktop search widget that uses nepomunk and strigi? | 01:50 |
| === david is now known as Guest7761 | ||
| nanosnack | r00t_ninja: it's very much installed. do I have to restart before it shows up? | 01:51 |
| Guest7761 | is there a partitioning tool that comes installed in 9.10? | 01:51 |
| r00t_ninja | you might have to | 01:51 |
| r00t_ninja | however i remember it showing up right away when i installed | 01:52 |
| Guest7761 | like gparted? | 01:52 |
| r00t_ninja | kaprted? | 01:52 |
| r00t_ninja | kparted? | 01:52 |
| Guest7761 | nope | 01:52 |
| genii | Likely qtparted | 01:52 |
| Guest7761 | oooh | 01:52 |
| r00t_ninja | partitionmanager | 01:52 |
| Guest7761 | where's that? | 01:53 |
| === linux is now known as Bruno | ||
| r00t_ninja | search partitionmanager in kpackagekit | 01:53 |
| Guest7761 | no qtparted | 01:53 |
| === Bruno is now known as Guest22750 | ||
| kavurt | Guest7761: what's wrong with gparted? | 01:53 |
| r00t_ninja | qtparted isnt in my repos | 01:53 |
| Guest7761 | I can't install anything until I get some more hard drive space, I'm all full up | 01:54 |
| Scunizi | r00t_ninja: partitionmanager *is* parted (gparted, qtparted, kparted) unless the stock install in 9.10 has changed. | 01:54 |
| r00t_ninja | oh ok | 01:54 |
| kavurt | Guest7761: use fdisk then | 01:54 |
| Guest7761 | looks like parted will run | 01:55 |
| nanosnack | Scunizi: thanks! main and universe are repositories. repositories are servers with lots of packages on them somewhere in the world? | 01:55 |
| Scunizi | nanosnack: yes.. | 01:55 |
| genii | !repositories | 01:55 |
| ubottu | The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories | 01:55 |
| nanosnack | are main and universe organizations or companies? or is this more conceptual? | 01:56 |
| genii | nanviewosnack: The first link above which the bot provided has an over | 01:56 |
| Scunizi | nanosnack: conceptual only.. just a means of segregation.. and assigning responsibility for compilation of the programs for each ubuntu release. | 01:56 |
| genii | bah touchpad | 01:57 |
| genii | nanosnack: The first link above which the bot provided has an overview | 01:57 |
| Scunizi | nanosnack: there are the 'original main' repo's the remainder in the world are mirrors..there to assist and reduce the load.. | 01:58 |
| nanosnack | genii: thank you | 01:59 |
| nanosnack | scunizi: I see. are all the repo's available through the package loader? | 02:01 |
| Scunizi | nanosnack: they are.. but you can only have one repo listed and accessed at a time through the package manager.. | 02:02 |
| r00t_ninja | un the computer tab in the kickoff application laucher would it be possible to disable showing removable storage devices | 02:04 |
| r00t_ninja | ? | 02:04 |
| nanosnack | scuniz: what the rationale? | 02:07 |
| Scunizi | nanosnack: how do you mean? .. | 02:08 |
| Scunizi | nanosnack: one repo consists of "main" "universe" and what ever else you've listed yourself. | 02:08 |
| Guest7761 | how can I rebuild my /var/lib/dpkg directory? | 02:09 |
| nanosnack_ | scunizi: I can understand why they are segregated by how much support or "open source" approval, but why can you only look through one at a time? | 02:13 |
| Scunizi | nanosnack: they are all the same.. just mirrors of the original.. so there's no differencee between them.. the point being to use the repo that is the closest or fasted to your location.. the package manager should be able to search out and list the best repo for you.. at lease ubuntu does/can.. I haven't tried it with kubuntu's package manager. | 02:15 |
| Dragnslcr | nanosnack_- KPackageKit will show packages from every repository you have enabled | 02:15 |
| nanosnack_ | scunizi: okay, when you said "one at a time" I took it to mean main, universe, restricted or multiverse | 02:16 |
| Scunizi | nanosnack: no.. those would all be one server location or repo.. however repo can also mean the main repo, universe repo etc.. but essentially the same server. | 02:17 |
| Scunizi | nanosnack: no.. those would all be one server location or repo.. however repo can also mean the main repo, universe repo etc.. but essentially the same server. | 02:18 |
| === cab570 is now known as dolek | ||
| rodrigo | hola | 02:25 |
| rodrigo | alguien que hable español | 02:26 |
| rodrigo | ? | 02:26 |
| EagleScreen | yo rodrigo | 02:26 |
| EagleScreen | pero este no es lugar para hablar en español, visite #kubuntu-es | 02:26 |
| rodrigo | ok | 02:26 |
| reesefrancis_ | how can i set the permissions to read of one group of users? chmod g+r and then? | 02:34 |
| === reesefrancis_ is now known as reesefrancis | ||
| FatTony | so, anyone gotten netflix to work in 9.1? | 02:41 |
| jsatt | I recently switched from SUSE to Kubuntu 9.10 and I'm trying to sudo scripts from my ~/bin but get back "command not found." both echo $PATH and sudo echo $PATH return the same value which includes ~/bin and adding env_keep = $PATH doesn'[t seem to help. any suggestions? | 02:50 |
| EagleScreen | jsatt: have they got execution permissions? | 02:55 |
| jsatt | yes, 755. They also all run fine as my user | 02:57 |
| r00t_ninja | this is more skype related but , im getting this error: bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) i am fairly sure this is whats causeing my microphone to not work | 03:15 |
| === m4v_ is now known as m4v | ||
| === root is now known as Guest18139 | ||
| jsatt | found a fix for my sudo issue. added "Defaults secure_path="/home/jsatt/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin"" to my /etc/sudoers. Maybe not the prefered method, but it does what i need. | 03:50 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| JerVA | Hello - is Kubuntu good OS for older machine with 512 MB ram? | 04:12 |
| Rev_Willie_Crow | hi all | 04:12 |
| Rev_Willie_Crow | anyone having problems with amarok? | 04:13 |
| Rev_Willie_Crow | on mine there is not a device button under config, and the sidebar is missing | 04:14 |
| === bruno is now known as Guest80094 | ||
| JerVA | Hello - is Kubuntu good OS for older machine with 512 MB ram? | 04:18 |
| maco | JerVA: probably not :-/ | 04:19 |
| maco | JerVA: well unless you have discrete graphics | 04:19 |
| maco | plasma's a bit graphics heavy | 04:19 |
| JerVA | I have older Nvidia GeForce 5200 | 04:19 |
| JerVA | does that still work with this newer Kubuntu? | 04:19 |
| maco | give it a try then | 04:19 |
| maco | no idea. i use intel. i just wouldnt suggest with intel on 512mb | 04:20 |
| JerVA | Does wine works with Kubuntu as well? | 04:20 |
| maco | yes | 04:20 |
| JerVA | I have p4 | 04:20 |
| JerVA | or is that too low ? | 04:20 |
| maco | thats fine | 04:20 |
| JerVA | 512 MB ram and P4 works just fine | 04:20 |
| maco | technically i think 256mb are the min requirements | 04:20 |
| JerVA | IC | 04:20 |
| maco | depends how fast you expect it to be, i guess ;) | 04:21 |
| maco | itll certainly run, how well you like it will depend on what you want to do with it and how fast you want to do it | 04:22 |
| JerVA | Okay | 04:22 |
| JerVA | KDe features does look nice | 04:22 |
| et_ | JerVA's computer sounds about like my mom's, on which Kubuntu is fairly snappy | 04:23 |
| maco | ok | 04:23 |
| JerVA | so it's not highly recommend to run kubuntu? | 04:24 |
| maco | JerVA: et_ just said it works well | 04:24 |
| JerVA | OH | 04:24 |
| JerVA | oops - I thought snappy meaning not well | 04:24 |
| JerVA | thanks :) | 04:24 |
| maco | JerVA: snappy = fast | 04:24 |
| JerVA | OIC | 04:24 |
| JerVA | got it | 04:24 |
| JerVA | sounds like it's better than GNOME ubuntu version | 04:25 |
| maco | for me, 2GB of RAM wasnt enough to avoid lots of swapping, but i probably keep more apps open and running in the background all the time (plus...firefox...) and actually, with 1GB of RAM and 32bit (and no firefox), its just dandy, so maybe 64bit is just super-memory-hog | 04:25 |
| DasKreech | JerVA: Really depends on how you use the computer. | 04:27 |
| JerVA | Yeah I agree. I'm really becoming the hardcore of the Ubuntu family fan. | 04:27 |
| lordganesh | default partition manager in ubuntu doesn't support ntfs is there any partition manager which support ntfs for kde | 04:33 |
| klaudiuser | h | 04:44 |
| === miguel is now known as Guest14480 | ||
| === Guest14480 is now known as miguel_ | ||
| === miguel_ is now known as Guest4611 | ||
| flachmann | heyhey guys | 05:13 |
| flachmann | fu me | 05:13 |
| flachmann | exit | 05:13 |
| flachmann | hihi | 05:13 |
| flachmann | lol | 05:14 |
| flachmann | biste ooch knülle? | 05:14 |
| EDinNY | how do I delete a file whose name starts with a '?'? | 05:17 |
| === root is now known as Guest8610 | ||
| DasKreech | EDinNY: with the delete key? | 05:22 |
| EDinNY | huh? no delete key on command line | 05:23 |
| et_ | rm \?nameoffile | 05:23 |
| EDinNY | a script made a bunch of odd files. tried that | 05:23 |
| EDinNY | rm: cannot remove `?*': No such file or directory | 05:24 |
| DasKreech | EDinNY: Oh from the command line? | 05:24 |
| EDinNY | yep. cant do it from dolfin | 05:24 |
| et_ | can you delete the directory? | 05:24 |
| DasKreech | Really? | 05:24 |
| EDinNY | really | 05:24 |
| DasKreech | Hmm | 05:25 |
| DasKreech | ok rm \?filename | 05:25 |
| EDinNY | some of them have regular charactors in them. I execute pipe ls to grep to rm | 05:25 |
| EDinNY | rm \?filename does not work. tried that | 05:26 |
| DasKreech | Works here what does it do for you? | 05:26 |
| DasKreech | is it a regular file? | 05:26 |
| EDinNY | rm: cannot remove `?*': No such file or directory | 05:26 |
| EDinNY | yes | 05:26 |
| et_ | are you trying to delete many files with the * character? | 05:27 |
| DasKreech | did you remove \?filename or \?* ? | 05:27 |
| EDinNY | -rw-r--r-- 1 ed ed 95 2009-12-06 21:54 {#???????? | 05:27 |
| DasKreech | That doesn't start with ? | 05:27 |
| EDinNY | most of them do | 05:27 |
| DasKreech | that starts with { | 05:27 |
| EDinNY | no | 05:27 |
| EDinNY | using wildcard because none of the charactors are letters or numbers | 05:27 |
| DasKreech | Can you give me an example of one that starts with ? | 05:28 |
| EDinNY | ???j?p?ļI?ea?V??? | 05:28 |
| EDinNY | ??c!? | 05:28 |
| EDinNY | ????j?p?ļI?ea?V??? | 05:28 |
| DasKreech | do they all have ?? | 05:28 |
| EDinNY | yep | 05:28 |
| EDinNY | or the ones I want to del do | 05:28 |
| DasKreech | That would be the problem | 05:29 |
| DasKreech | bash reads the line twice and then tries to replcace the second ? with a char which o course doesn't exist | 05:29 |
| et_ | what happens if you try just one: rm \?\?c\!\? | 05:30 |
| DasKreech | I could walk you through this but #bash will be more informative if a lot harsher than I will | 05:30 |
| EDinNY | rm `ls |grep j*p |grep V |grep -v SA' <-- got rid of one of them | 05:30 |
| DasKreech | et_: He can do them one by one easy just time consuming | 05:30 |
| DasKreech | assuming that EDinNY is a him :) | 05:30 |
| EDinNY | yep | 05:31 |
| DasKreech | What you need is a literal expansion | 05:32 |
| DasKreech | is this in some sub directory ? | 05:32 |
| EDinNY | tried putting it in single quotes too | 05:33 |
| EDinNY | sub dir | 05:33 |
| DasKreech | single quotes won't help unless you do it post expansion | 05:33 |
| DasKreech | are there files that you want in the sub dir ? | 05:33 |
| EDinNY | yes. I will figure it out | 05:33 |
| EDinNY | thanks | 05:33 |
| DasKreech | well if you want ot know how to delete the files ask in #bash | 05:34 |
| EDinNY | good idea! | 05:34 |
| EDinNY | thanks | 05:34 |
| DasKreech | if you just want to solve the problem I have a negative way of approaching it | 05:34 |
| EDinNY | can do it with greps | 05:35 |
| DasKreech | :-) | 05:35 |
| DasKreech | Do the files that you want start with a reasonable character? | 05:35 |
| EDinNY | yes | 05:36 |
| EDinNY | ah, great idea | 05:36 |
| EDinNY | how do I grep -v for letters? | 05:36 |
| DasKreech | grep -v [A-Za-z]* | 05:36 |
| DasKreech | or if you like ls [^0-9A-Za-z]* | 05:37 |
| DasKreech | should list out files that start with funky chars | 05:37 |
| DasKreech | If those are the files that you want to get rid of just swap ls with rm | 05:38 |
| EDinNY | rm 'ˢI{' worked | 05:38 |
| DasKreech | doesn't that leave you with ?? files? | 05:39 |
| nomopofomo | let's say i install from a mini iso... i install the base system and then reboot to the terminal... i want to get a very minimal kde4 environment up and running... so will aptitude install kdebase do the trick? or do i need to install an x server as well? | 05:48 |
| et_ | I don't think anything graphical will work without X | 05:50 |
| === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor | ||
| nomopofomo | i guess my question was: will installing kdebase also install the x server as a dependency? | 05:56 |
| r00t_ninja | It most likely will | 05:57 |
| sellu | hai | 06:01 |
| sellu | what is this softwer exactly???????/ | 06:01 |
| et_ | nomopofomo: 'aptitude -D show kdebase' should show you | 06:02 |
| esteban | heeeeeeeeee | 06:07 |
| DasKreech | nomopofomo: It will | 06:07 |
| DasKreech | Hi esteban | 06:07 |
| esteban | wass up? | 06:07 |
| esteban | :-) | 06:07 |
| esteban | hi | 06:08 |
| DasKreech | Hi | 06:08 |
| rizvan | hi | 06:08 |
| rizvan | This is not a genuine Ubuntu package: kdelibs-bin | 06:08 |
| rizvan | please tell how to install genuine package? | 06:08 |
| DasKreech | rizvan: What do you mean ? | 06:09 |
| DasKreech | Darkwing-Netbook: Whooot | 06:09 |
| rizvan | i'm trying to report a bug for konsole | 06:09 |
| rizvan | i have added some repos | 06:09 |
| rizvan | to sources.list | 06:09 |
| DasKreech | ok | 06:09 |
| rizvan | my sources.list file -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/336331/ | 06:10 |
| DasKreech | and you want to know where kdelibs-bin came from? | 06:10 |
| rizvan | yes | 06:10 |
| rizvan | and to install official packages only | 06:10 |
| et_ | how do you define "official"? | 06:11 |
| DasKreech | well if you want official packages only they easiest way is to comment out the ppa lines | 06:11 |
| rizvan | provided from ubuntu repos | 06:11 |
| rizvan | ok | 06:11 |
| DasKreech | if you want to know where kdelibs-bin came from then type apt-cache policy kdelibs-bin in konsole | 06:11 |
| DasKreech | The version table will tell you where you are getting it from | 06:12 |
| rizvan | sure | 06:12 |
| rizvan | here's the output -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/336332/ | 06:12 |
| DasKreech | Seeing as you have PPAs enabled it's likely coming from there | 06:13 |
| Darkwing-Netbook | What's up DasKreech | 06:13 |
| rizvan | should i just comment all ppas | 06:13 |
| rizvan | ? | 06:13 |
| DasKreech | Darkwing-Netbook: plasma-netbook works? | 06:13 |
| DasKreech | rizvan: Depends what are you trying to do? | 06:13 |
| rizvan | ok, many thanks :) | 06:13 |
| DasKreech | You have KDE 4.3.4 currently are you trying to go back to KDE 4.3.2 ? | 06:14 |
| rizvan | nope, i don't want to | 06:14 |
| Darkwing-Netbook | As a tech preview it runs well... I'm test running Lucid right now... has a few problems | 06:14 |
| rizvan | but i want to report indic unicode font rendering bug in konsole | 06:14 |
| DasKreech | rizvan: ok the package that you have now was released by kubuntu devs so you can use it as is | 06:15 |
| DasKreech | Submit your bug report as normal | 06:15 |
| rizvan | the bug report dialog "collecting problem information" - is complaining | 06:15 |
| rizvan | "This is not a genuine Ubuntu package" | 06:16 |
| rizvan | ok, i'll downgrade to 4.3.2 then report the bug and do the upgrade again | 06:16 |
| rizvan | Thanks DasKreech :-) | 06:18 |
| DasKreech | rizvan: HOld on let me see if i can find a resolution to that | 06:18 |
| rizvan | okay | 06:20 |
| TeLLuS | or report to KDE instead.. | 06:25 |
| DasKreech | rizvan: You are reporting it Launchpad? | 06:26 |
| DasKreech | TeLLuS: Yeah I was just getting to that :) | 06:26 |
| rizvan | i want to report to kde bugs, from the "Help->report bug" | 06:28 |
| DasKreech | rizvan: you can do that. You can also report directly at bugs.kde.org | 06:28 |
| rizvan | ok, i'll report directly there | 06:28 |
| rizvan | solves the issue ;-) | 06:29 |
| DasKreech | rizvan: Thanks for taking the time out to report the bug :) | 06:29 |
| rizvan | that's at least i can do as a good opensource user! | 06:29 |
| DasKreech | :-) | 06:30 |
| rizvan | bye, see you | 06:30 |
| === nathan is now known as Guest55343 | ||
| cpk1 | I've got kubuntu 9.04 and can't seem to get sound from more than one source at once, whenever I want a new program to use sound I have to reload alsa | 06:50 |
| cpk1 | not sure what the issue is | 06:50 |
| cpk1 | anyone has any suggestions feel free to shout them out | 06:52 |
| et_ | cpk1: this may help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012 | 07:05 |
| cpk1 | et_: thanks, so I guess I have to use pulse then? I was hoping to avoid it =P | 07:07 |
| et_ | I think I remember having a problem like yours and pulseaudio solved it for me. | 07:08 |
| cpk1 | yeah it doesnt look like I have a sound server | 07:09 |
| oferon | Any one can help me with some wireless configuration and injection? | 07:10 |
| === kb is now known as Guest23986 | ||
| === aaron__ is now known as da2f | ||
| da2f | a2f | 07:32 |
| da2f | eeeee | 07:33 |
| === da2f is now known as a2f | ||
| Timewarper | guys protest against satanic edition ubuntu | 07:40 |
| DasKreech | What was that about? | 07:41 |
| WilliamBuell | I have LAMP on an Ubuntu desktop. Is it terribly difficult to enable php to send out an email programatically? | 07:50 |
| DasKreech | WilliamBuell: /join ##php | 07:51 |
| r00t_ninja | install sendmail , set sendmail_path in your php.ini and you should be done | 07:52 |
| WilliamBuell | thanks r00t_ninja | 07:52 |
| WilliamBuell | thanks DasKreech | 07:53 |
| zhanes | hi bill | 07:54 |
| zhanes | hi ninja | 07:54 |
| zhanes | ehy protest against satanic ubuntu edition? | 07:56 |
| zhanes | satanism is a religion too, dont? | 07:56 |
| DasKreech | zhanes: what? | 07:57 |
| zhanes | why i do protest counter satanism? | 07:57 |
| zhanes | satanism is a religion too | 07:58 |
| * DasKreech has no idea but that has nothing to do with this channel | 07:58 | |
| zhanes | they given them asses and smoke marijuana | 07:58 |
| zhanes | but homophoby is crime | 07:58 |
| zhanes | so, freedom of religion, freddom of sexuality, freedom of speech | 07:59 |
| zhanes | preconcept is a bad idea | 07:59 |
| jussi01 | !ot | 08:00 |
| ubottu | #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! | 08:00 |
| DasKreech | zhanes: If you have a question about Kubuntu you can ask it otherwise take the conversation elsewhere | 08:00 |
| zhanes | ubottu called us attemption | 08:00 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 08:00 |
| zhanes | DasKreech, forgive me | 08:01 |
| zhanes | I just give my opinion about ubuntu distributions | 08:02 |
| zhanes | satanists can use ubunu too, dont? | 08:02 |
| jussi01 | zhanes: youve been asked, please keep ontopic for this channel | 08:02 |
| zhanes | alright | 08:02 |
| DasKreech | Yes so can people wearing green shirts, Accountants, the greeks and people with red hair | 08:03 |
| DasKreech | None of that has anything to do with this channel | 08:03 |
| zhanes | sure DasKreech | 08:03 |
| zhanes | offcourse | 08:03 |
| DasKreech | you can join #kubuntu-offtopic and talk about it as much as you like | 08:03 |
| zhanes | thx | 08:04 |
| a2f | after running aptitude build-dep i'm seeing a bunch of packages with {a} next to their names. what does that mean? | 08:07 |
| ||arifaX | Hi I am on 9.10 I try a cisco vpn via the knetwork-manager vpnc and the plugin is installed. from command line works. It seems nm does not even try to start the connection. can someone help me a bit? | 08:09 |
| zhanes | have you tried to use pppoeconf first? | 08:10 |
| ghostcube | ||arifaX: hmm i dont kow knetwork-manager so far havent used it, but maybe just try another one as knetwork-manager isnt the bugfree one :) | 08:11 |
| zhanes | and you will ned choose your kubuntu distribution in wizzard | 08:11 |
| zhanes | choose manual configuration, them kubuntu karmic 9.10 | 08:12 |
| zhanes | them detect devices | 08:12 |
| ghostcube | zhanes: commandline it works o.o | 08:13 |
| ghostcube | so the config is quite ok | 08:13 |
| zhanes | works too, ppoeconf autodetec your device | 08:13 |
| zhanes | pppoeconf | 08:13 |
| zhanes | sorry | 08:13 |
| zhanes | but try it: | 08:14 |
| zhanes | choose manual configuration, them kubuntu karmic 9.10 | 08:14 |
| r00t_ninja | are you setting the connection as auto connect? | 08:14 |
| zhanes | them detect devices | 08:14 |
| ghostcube | i would just suggest wicd cause knetworkmanager isnt the best in the wild | 08:15 |
| zhanes | right click on knetwork-manager them when appears options choose manual settings | 08:15 |
| zhanes | them when apperar wizard dialog, choose kubuntu karmic 9.10 | 08:16 |
| zhanes | them when appears the principal box, choose autodetec | 08:16 |
| zhanes | so them you can configure all options in your device | 08:17 |
| zhanes | understood? | 08:18 |
| snuggz | hello | 08:23 |
| DasKreech | hi | 08:23 |
| ||arifaX | ghostcube: I used wicd for a long time, but man it can't be possible that something that is implemented does not work | 08:24 |
| ghostcube | ||arifaX: i know but wicd is working | 08:24 |
| ghostcube | so i havent tried knetwork-manager again | 08:24 |
| ||arifaX | zhanes: cannot follow you | 08:25 |
| zhanes | ghostcube, what you wish to do? | 08:26 |
| hyper_ch | hi there, got a strange printer problem. I setup a network printer and the test pages was printed ok. It also appears in the cups web interface (localhost:631). However a document that I try to print from Okular does not get printed and does not appear in the cups webinterface. Any suggestions? | 08:26 |
| zhanes | follow me for where? | 08:26 |
| ||arifaX | zhanes: your knetork-manager options manual settings stuff | 08:26 |
| zhanes | why not? to me works fine | 08:27 |
| zhanes | i'm using only it | 08:27 |
| zhanes | ghostcube, have you tried my "stuff"? | 08:28 |
| ||arifaX | zhanes: look that happens when I click my configured vpn connection (vpnc) http://paste.ubuntu.com/336375/ | 08:29 |
| ||arifaX | zhanes: this is from syslog | 08:29 |
| zhanes | well in our case, do ou really need knetwork-config? | 08:31 |
| zhanes | well in your case, do you really need knetwork-manager? | 08:31 |
| ||arifaX | zhanes: I could do it by hand yes and it works (tested) but you understand I am a fan of linux and I want to bring it also to people that are no computerfreaks and therefore stuff like this needs to work out of the box. | 08:32 |
| zhanes | (sorry for errors, i'm needing to sleep | 08:32 |
| ||arifaX | Why do we have the possiblity to add a vpn and a vpnc plugin if it does not work the way it should? | 08:32 |
| zhanes | i'm confused with your questions | 08:34 |
| zhanes | r))t_ninja, do you know about it? | 08:35 |
| zhanes | r00t_ninja, do you know about it? | 08:35 |
| balsaq | will this support channel work as long as i have kde (PClinuxOS)...or do i need to get kubuntu | 08:36 |
| DasKreech | balsaq: Ask your question and we will see | 08:36 |
| ||arifaX | zhanes: let me explain. I did a sudo apt-get install network-manager-vpnc vpnc and then configured a vpn connection. It does not even popout anything. when I go to the commandline as root and do the vpn manually with exactly the same parameters I am connected - frankly I don't like that | 08:37 |
| zhanes | but if works, whats the matter? | 08:37 |
| balsaq | can kubuntu do ipod | 08:38 |
| DasKreech | Yes if you have the new amarok or banshee | 08:38 |
| DasKreech | or gpodder of course | 08:38 |
| balsaq | ok because i just installed ubuntu on my firends computer and they say she cant do it | 08:39 |
| balsaq | so i may put her in kubuntu | 08:39 |
| zhanes | well if your problem is popup wizzard | 08:39 |
| zhanes | here have | 08:39 |
| zhanes | and discover the devices automatically | 08:39 |
| DasKreech | balsaq: install banshee | 08:39 |
| DasKreech | It can do iPod | 08:39 |
| balsaq | hmmtold her that | 08:39 |
| zhanes | basaq, i have ipod and connect normally | 08:40 |
| balsaq | alredy told her that Daskreech...she still is struggling | 08:40 |
| balsaq | cool ill switch her to kubuntu | 08:40 |
| balsaq | are you gonna be here tommorowzhanes Daskreech | 08:40 |
| zhanes | i tranfer the mp3 and the awm to device in my folders and runs ok | 08:40 |
| zhanes | the ipod is recognized as a HD removable | 08:41 |
| balsaq | she i total newbie | 08:41 |
| balsaq | 1st day | 08:41 |
| DasKreech | Probably | 08:41 |
| zhanes | the only problem is the videos, the videos are in commercial extensions only | 08:41 |
| balsaq | her name i sweet_sarah_jane | 08:41 |
| balsaq | ill tell her to look you up zhanes and daskreech | 08:42 |
| zhanes | awm is commercial and you will need to install commercial codecs to mencoder | 08:42 |
| DasKreech | She can just asl | 08:42 |
| DasKreech | Hmm | 08:42 |
| DasKreech | !ipod | 08:42 |
| ubottu | For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod | 08:42 |
| DasKreech | Ha | 08:42 |
| FloodBotK3 | DasKreech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 08:42 |
| DasKreech | 10 dollars says that's not up to date :-) | 08:42 |
| balsaq | she is soo new its all tough right now | 08:42 |
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| DasKreech | We'll be nice to her | 08:43 |
| balsaq | she wants messenger and ipod...or maybe it was itunes,,,,thats it | 08:43 |
| balsaq | well give it a shot | 08:43 |
| DasKreech | Of course she wants iTunes | 08:43 |
| zhanes | first convert videos to your ipod dimensions 240x120 for example them to you codec, this program is good to convert videos --> konverter-0.93 | 08:44 |
| DasKreech | amsn or kmess for MSN | 08:44 |
| balsaq | is that the one that doesnt work? | 08:44 |
| DasKreech | Which is? | 08:44 |
| balsaq | no sence beatin a dead horse cause i am not sure what her problem is...nice girl though, ill get her in here tomorrow | 08:45 |
| zhanes | http://www.tr0ll.net/kraus.tk/projects/konverter/sources/konverter-0.93.tar.gz | 08:45 |
| DasKreech | I'm guessing her problem is she wants iTunes cause she knows iTunes | 08:45 |
| balsaq | yup | 08:46 |
| zhanes | when you connect you ripod via usb or bluetotth is automatically recognized as a removable HD device | 08:46 |
| zhanes | just copy and past your converted videos from your HD to ipod device | 08:47 |
| balsaq | save it for her cause i don't mess with that stuff | 08:47 |
| balsaq | bu thank you | 08:47 |
| zhanes | oh, you want to use iTunes? | 08:47 |
| balsaq | she does | 08:48 |
| zhanes | have many iTunes pluggins for mozilla-firefox | 08:48 |
| balsaq | i installed buntu on someones computer and now she wants itunes | 08:48 |
| zhanes | all are good | 08:48 |
| zhanes | good to manage iTunes | 08:48 |
| balsaq | so i am going to have her talk to you folks | 08:48 |
| zhanes | go to mozilla-firefox addons | 08:48 |
| balsaq | if i am reeeaaalll lucky someone helped her while i was at work | 08:49 |
| balsaq | ill know tomorrow | 08:49 |
| balsaq | cause she'll call me at work ...if it still doesnt work | 08:49 |
| zhanes | the best is foxytunes https://addons.mozilla.org/pt-BR/firefox/addon/219 | 08:50 |
| zhanes | balsaq: the best is foxytunes https://addons.mozilla.org/pt-BR/firefox/addon/219 | 08:51 |
| balsaq | well she had better learn buntu cause when i installed it in her box it was so loaded with virus it was a mess...she HAS to learn buntu | 08:51 |
| balsaq | and she lost her xp home discs | 08:52 |
| DasKreech | ha ha If she can stick out a month she shuld be fine | 08:52 |
| zhanes | if she had serial of xp, she can download a copy of windows xp in anywhere | 08:52 |
| zhanes | better: allwhere | 08:52 |
| balsaq | exactly...luckily she pretty good on computers | 08:53 |
| balsaq | she already customized it | 08:53 |
| zhanes | but i prefer kubuntu then windows | 08:53 |
| balsaq | i have xubuntu, ubuntu, pclinuxos and xp pro and puppylinux | 08:53 |
| balsaq | i had mint for awhile | 08:53 |
| zhanes | KDE is a "obra prima" | 08:54 |
| balsaq | this is my 1st time on kde | 08:54 |
| zhanes | mint is pretty | 08:54 |
| balsaq | when isaw the kde i knew i should have started her there | 08:54 |
| zhanes | but kubuntu with air theme is fantastic | 08:54 |
| balsaq | mint is pretty but i noticed a bug in it | 08:54 |
| balsaq | ticked me off | 08:54 |
| balsaq | computer janitor is a mess in it | 08:55 |
| zhanes | well have you passed to her the link for the foxytunes? | 08:55 |
| balsaq | she isnt here yet....i am sending her in her tomorrow | 08:56 |
| zhanes | foxytunes is good for all multimedia in internet, not only iTunes | 08:56 |
| balsaq | she tried for hours in ubuntu | 08:56 |
| zhanes | ubuntu is easy to use | 08:56 |
| balsaq | yup...shes gettin it just no the itunes | 08:56 |
| zhanes | i love compiz | 08:57 |
| balsaq | brb... | 08:57 |
| zhanes | DasKreech, ubuntu is intuitive, and Kubuntu likely a windows desktop | 08:58 |
| zhanes | many peoples today uses well kubuntu | 08:58 |
| DasKreech | Yes | 08:58 |
| zhanes | for first time | 08:58 |
| zhanes | the better in linux is a big numbers of forums | 08:59 |
| balsaq | i just installed pclinuxos on a computer in my basement..it looks like they copied kubuntu almost entirely | 08:59 |
| noaXess | !bluray | 09:11 |
| noaXess | !blu-ray | 09:12 |
| noaXess | !blue-ray | 09:12 |
| zhanes | !blueray | 09:13 |
| zhanes | !ppa | 09:15 |
| ubottu | With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart. | 09:15 |
| DasKreech | noaXess: Nice try | 09:16 |
| DasKreech | That would be debian though | 09:16 |
| zhanes | debian thought for what? | 09:17 |
| zhanes | DasKreech, can i compile progrms and put in ppa to all people? | 09:18 |
| zhanes | is unlimited? | 09:19 |
| DasKreech | zhanes: yes | 09:20 |
| DasKreech | zhanes: It would be debain that would be shipping on a Bluray | 09:20 |
| DasKreech | it ships on 28 Cd right now I think | 09:20 |
| zhanes | good, but i think in put only multimedia debians | 09:22 |
| zhanes | i compiled a lot of multimedia programs for kubuntu brazil, and i dont have where to put it like kubuntu packages | 09:23 |
| zhanes | now i have a solution for this problem | 09:23 |
| Mamarok | zhanes: get yourself a PPA on Launchpad | 09:23 |
| zhanes | i compiled full version of mplayer with support to brazilian MIDI-Voices | 09:24 |
| zhanes | and supports to MIDI-VOices on mplayer mozilla | 09:25 |
| zhanes | good for brazilian peoples | 09:25 |
| === ilter is now known as onThesisAboutTor | ||
| Michael72 | Есть ли такая команда, по которой можно узнать свой внешний IP-адрес шлюза | 10:19 |
| Tm_T | !ru | Michael72 | 10:20 |
| ubottu | Michael72: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke | 10:20 |
| Michael72 | Thanks! | 10:20 |
| doleyb | Why does plasma crash so much in karmic!? | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | doleyb: which KDE version? | 10:21 |
| doleyb | shadeslayer: The default kde in karmic, which is 4.3.2 | 10:22 |
| shadeslayer | doleyb: ok try and update to 4.3.4 and see if the issue is resolved | 10:28 |
| anirudh | what do you use to read pdf files? okular crashes everytime i try to open a file | 10:29 |
| shadeslayer | anirudh: can you try and open okular via a terminal and pastebin the crash outputt? | 10:29 |
| shadeslayer | *output | 10:29 |
| wilsby29 | anirudh, are you updated to the latest version of ukular | 10:30 |
| anirudh | will check | 10:30 |
| wilsby29 | I added the repository for the latest kde update and it fixed my okular. which also used to crash when opening pdfs from the browser or email | 10:30 |
| wilsby29 | it was a known bug | 10:31 |
| wilsby29 | I also dried installing acroread and recommend AGAINST IT because acroread is even more unstable | 10:31 |
| anirudh | another issue. i have packages but it says its not installed. it does so with okular, and openbabel | 10:31 |
| anirudh | who do i check if rpm -q is accessing the right directory? | 10:31 |
| wilsby29 | ah, rpm. Isn't that th wrong package format? | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | anirudh: we use .debs | 10:33 |
| anirudh | ok.. how do i use .debs? | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | anirudh: same way you use .rpms :P , the only difference is in the way theyre packaged | 10:35 |
| shadeslayer | (same way theres FDF and PDF, .mp3 and .mp4, etc) | 10:35 |
| shadeslayer | !rpm | anirudh | 10:36 |
| ubottu | anirudh: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported) | 10:36 |
| anirudh | ok.. . | 10:38 |
| anirudh | so how do i check my version of ocular ? (command) | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | anirudh: apt-cache policy okular | 10:40 |
| === root is now known as Guest73083 | ||
| anirudh | 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu1 | 10:44 |
| shadeslayer | anirudh: yeah,you need to add the kubuntu ppa from the kubuntu.org site | 10:45 |
| anirudh | what is that? | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | !ppa | anirudh | 10:45 |
| ubottu | anirudh: With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart. | 10:45 |
| level09 | is kubuntu just a ubuntu + KDE ? | 10:46 |
| level09 | or is there any missing/extra stuff | 10:47 |
| ||arifaX | where can I get latest doc on xorg.conf on the web? | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | level09: yeah its ubuntu-gnome+KDE :P | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | !xorg | ||arifaX | 10:48 |
| ubottu | ||arifaX: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution | 10:48 |
| level09 | thnx XD | 10:49 |
| anirudh | Application: Okular (okular), signal: Segmentation fault is the first line of the error when i try to open a pdf | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | ||arifaX: em.. xorg is depreceated | 10:49 |
| shadeslayer | anirudh: the whole error please,on pastebin | 10:50 |
| ||arifaX | shadeslayer: I know but without an xorg.conf you won't get an ati card working | 10:50 |
| shadeslayer | !ati | ||arifaX | 10:50 |
| ubottu | ||arifaX: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 10:50 |
| anirudh | ok | 10:51 |
| anirudh | strange. i retried it. it works now | 10:51 |
| SuperSub | hi guys, can someone help me with the following xbmc installations issue? | 10:52 |
| SuperSub | xbmc: | 10:52 |
| SuperSub | Depends: xbmc-common but it is not going to be installed | 10:52 |
| SuperSub | Depends: xbmc-skin-confluence but it is not going to be installed | 10:52 |
| SuperSub | Depends: xbmc-skin-pm3-hd but it is not going to be installed | 10:52 |
| SuperSub | Depends: xbmc-web-pm3 but it is not going to be installed | 10:52 |
| FloodBotK2 | SuperSub: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 10:52 |
| Gar | re | 10:53 |
| Gar | есть кто жмвой ? | 10:53 |
| Gar | нужна срочная помощь | 10:53 |
| Gar | народ | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | !ru | Gar | 10:54 |
| ubottu | Gar: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke | 10:54 |
| Gar | есть кто живой ? | 10:54 |
| SuperSub | http://paste.ubuntu.com/336445/ | 10:54 |
| Fleck | Gar idi v #ubuntu-ru | 10:54 |
| Fleck | Gar tut tolko angliski pomosh4 ;) | 10:54 |
| Gar | tnx ) | 10:55 |
| anirudh | k guys thank you! bye! | 10:56 |
| SuperSub | gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" | 11:01 |
| === david is now known as Guest29396 | ||
| shadeslayer | SuperSub: ? | 11:04 |
| SuperSub | can you help me please, im trying to install xbmc but not having much luk | 11:05 |
| SuperSub | http://paste.ubuntu.com/336445/ | 11:06 |
| SuperSub | this is the error message i get when trying to instal via synaptic | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | SuperSub: one sec | 11:09 |
| SuperSub | np | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | SuperSub: did you try and install each one seprately? | 11:09 |
| SuperSub | one sec i'll give you a link to the instruction i used.. | 11:10 |
| SuperSub | http://xbmc.org/wiki/?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu_with_a_minimal_installation_step-by-step | 11:10 |
| SuperSub | and to answer your question no. | 11:11 |
| shadeslayer | SuperSub: well it works fine here | 11:14 |
| SuperSub | im thinking my os version may be old but im having trouble trying to upgrade it.. | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | SuperSub: what version do you have? | 11:15 |
| SuperSub | im getting some freaky error messages not sure if this is the cause. | 11:15 |
| SuperSub | version number is 8.04. | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | SuperSub: did you use the instructions for 9.10 or the second one? | 11:16 |
| SuperSub | used the first one.. ic | 11:17 |
| shadeslayer | SuperSub: theres your problem :) | 11:18 |
| SuperSub | ok can i back the changes out or do i just leave them? | 11:18 |
| shadeslayer | SuperSub: hmm.. i have no idea... maybe you can remove the xmbc repo from synaptic and then add the other repo again | 11:19 |
| fabrizio | if a person i running pclinuxos, and it is pure KDE, is it tied in tothe same update system as kubuntu? | 11:20 |
| shadeslayer | fabrizio: nope | 11:21 |
| fabrizio | wow i screwed up | 11:21 |
| shadeslayer | fabrizio: kubuntu and pclinuxos are different operating systems | 11:22 |
| fabrizio | yeah i know... | 11:22 |
| === ubuntu is now known as Dani_Re | ||
| fabrizio | so how do they get by with no updates? | 11:23 |
| fabrizio | anyway...i just burned kubu 910 to a cd | 11:23 |
| shadeslayer | fabrizio: its up to the main devs of pclinuxos... go to #pclinuxos | 11:23 |
| fabrizio | i know...they don't answer | 11:24 |
| fabrizio | seems like your better off with one of the big 3......ubu, kubu or xubu...i kinda got off the beaten path a little | 11:24 |
| fabrizio | can i stick kubuntu in here and install right over it? | 11:26 |
| shadeslayer | fabrizio: yep... just format your pclinuxos partition to ext4 and set mountpoint as / | 11:27 |
| fabrizio | oh it like 4? | 11:27 |
| fabrizio | so i guess those questions will arise naturally during the install... | 11:28 |
| fabrizio | i got a bunch of old desktops, i keep installing various distros for fun as i learn linux | 11:28 |
| Meowpup | ubuntu vrs kubuntu any prefferances pros and cons etc | 11:32 |
| === net_ is now known as XxTeosxX | ||
| rfgergrthnre | What's the difference between this and irc.ubuntu.com's #kubuntu? | 11:47 |
| osanllyer | is there rosseta stone for linux | 11:59 |
| cuznt | !rosseta stone | 12:02 |
| osanllyer | ? | 12:02 |
| cuznt | <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rosseta stone | 12:02 |
| osanllyer | rosseta stone is a language learning program | 12:03 |
| osanllyer | i installed it in win7, now i want a linux version but it seems impossible | 12:04 |
| cuznt | did you try google? | 12:04 |
| osanllyer | yes | 12:05 |
| cuznt | http://bhami.com/rosetta.html | 12:05 |
| cuznt | http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wine/72408-rosetta-stone.html | 12:05 |
| cuznt | try either of those | 12:05 |
| osanllyer | oh ,that's not what i need | 12:05 |
| osanllyer | all the solution is by wine or crossoffice or virtualbox | 12:06 |
| cuznt | true but wine will work | 12:06 |
| osanllyer | and i want a native linux version | 12:06 |
| osanllyer | i had tried, the sound didnot work well | 12:07 |
| ghostcube | osanllyer: only the devs can tell you if there is any linux version | 12:08 |
| ghostcube | and i doubt it | 12:08 |
| osanllyer | yes i am visiting the official website | 12:09 |
| cuznt | maybe its time to learn and step up osanllyer. take a small course and build it yerseff | 12:09 |
| * cuznt starts classes at itt-tech today. | 12:10 | |
| osanllyer | ^^ | 12:10 |
| cuznt | no more alt ctrl backspace to restart x? | 12:11 |
| ghostcube | osanllyer: no you need to use wine with rosetta | 12:11 |
| ghostcube | cuznt: nah logoff and choose restart x or Alt + | 12:11 |
| ghostcube | cuznt: nah logoff and choose restart x or Alt + e | 12:11 |
| osanllyer | yes the only possible way | 12:11 |
| ghostcube | yep and it seems to work fine with latest wine | 12:12 |
| osanllyer | really? i'll try it once more | 12:12 |
| osanllyer | i installed playonlinux and the sound couldnot work | 12:13 |
| ghostcube | playonlinux ? | 12:13 |
| ghostcube | osanllyer: there is an ppa for wine | 12:14 |
| osanllyer | yes | 12:14 |
| ghostcube | what is playonlinux | 12:14 |
| ghostcube | http://www.winehq.org/download/deb | 12:14 |
| osanllyer | playonlinux is a frontend of wine | 12:14 |
| ghostcube | oO | 12:15 |
| osanllyer | and it provide many configurations for many games and apps | 12:15 |
| ghostcube | dpkg -l wine* | 12:15 |
| ghostcube | what version is installed 1.01 ? | 12:15 |
| ghostcube | in the ppa is the later beta | 12:16 |
| osanllyer | let me see | 12:16 |
| osanllyer | 1.0.1 | 12:17 |
| SandGorgon | !df | 12:28 |
| ubottu | Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T | 12:28 |
| relic420 | hi i am currently in ubuntue, i installed kubuntu threw the apt and when i tried to boot into kde i got a error about low graphics mode, when i tried to make a new configure file, it wouldnt go past the second dialog so i crashed out of kde, how can i fix this so i can switch to kde from gnome? | 12:31 |
| relic420 | ubuntu* | 12:32 |
| Rochas | hi everyone | 12:47 |
| === cortex_sk is now known as cortex|sk | ||
| JerVA | Hello! | 13:06 |
| JerVA | I'm now using kubuntu that I installed last nite - I wanted to thank you for assisting me yesterday | 13:07 |
| JerVA | it works smoothly here than ubuntu | 13:07 |
| relic420 | anyone here i need help | 13:15 |
| manish | yes??? | 13:15 |
| relic420 | i get a error when i try to boot with kubuntu (kde) | 13:15 |
| manish | what error??? | 13:15 |
| r00t_ninja | ^ | 13:15 |
| relic420 | (EE) open /dev/fb0 no such file or directory | 13:16 |
| relic420 | when i try to create a new config the dialog wont go past the first step | 13:16 |
| relic420 | main error thing says low graphics mode | 13:16 |
| relic420 | i had to boot into text mode to get anything to work | 13:18 |
| nik_ | hi, how to change the background color of the panel? | 13:30 |
| rav | hello. since the update to karmic, i can't transfer files through bluetooth. i can scan and pair devices, but file transfering is not working. is this happening to anyone else? | 13:39 |
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| JediMaster | Is there any way to filter songs in Amarok by rating (not just sort)? | 13:45 |
| ubuntu_ | hi | 13:46 |
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| Consul_Falx | ah | 14:03 |
| Consul_Falx | again the same stuff | 14:03 |
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| Consul_Falx | using Karmic Kubuntu amd64... have installed xubuntu-desktop packages, and since than, kdm fails | 14:03 |
| ghostcube | hmm what exactly fails in kdm | 14:04 |
| Consul_Falx | it shouts "running on low graphics mode" and if accepted, it tries to reload but fails... from the shell i can still start gdm and work as normal | 14:04 |
| ghostcube | hmmm Karmic ? | 14:05 |
| Consul_Falx | the usual boot splash ends, black screen with very low resolution saying Low graphics... (ee) open: /dev/fb0 ... no such file or directory | 14:06 |
| Consul_Falx | it's got then an option to attempt restart, bzw to open a root shell, but it's all vain since I couldn't yet have logged in by then | 14:06 |
| Consul_Falx | if i kill the stuff and run gdm on a new tty, i can work normally after then | 14:07 |
| rav | Consul_Falx: i had a similar problem on hardy when i updated kernels. it was because it didn't automatically recompile my nvidia kernel module, i had to do it manually from a console | 14:07 |
| Consul_Falx | problems occured when I installed xfce | 14:08 |
| Consul_Falx | (and whole xubuntu package | 14:08 |
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| Consul_Falx | and i was installing from deb packages and repositories, also i don't know what/how to compile | 14:08 |
| Consul_Falx | p.s. ghostcube hello | 14:09 |
| jussi01 | !enter | Consul_Falx | 14:09 |
| ubottu | Consul_Falx: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! | 14:09 |
| ghostcube | hi Consul_Falx | 14:09 |
| ghostcube | is this ati card ? | 14:09 |
| Consul_Falx | jussi01: thank you for a factual contribution to an intelligent discussion, I'll watch my enter by now... | 14:10 |
| Consul_Falx | ghostcube: so is it... | 14:10 |
| Consul_Falx | after i start from gdm manually, all graphics work fine | 14:10 |
| ghostcube | what drivers fglrx ? | 14:10 |
| Consul_Falx | radeon | 14:10 |
| ghostcube | hmmm is xubuntu callable from kdm ? | 14:11 |
| Consul_Falx | card is X1450... | 14:11 |
| ghostcube | X1450 is working with radeon ? | 14:11 |
| Consul_Falx | ghostcube: definitely used to be | 14:11 |
| Consul_Falx | (callable)... and the radeon driver was preinstalled | 14:11 |
| mofux | Riddell: do you know about any updates for kde sc 4.4beta1 packages? | 14:13 |
| * Consul_Falx reboots to find out more | 14:13 | |
| * mofux is eagerly waiting to give it a try | 14:13 | |
| Riddell | mofux: it's all compiling now in lucid, we're working on it for karmic | 14:15 |
| mofux | Riddell: ok, thank you | 14:15 |
| Guest71495 | hi guys i'm a new kubuntu user... yesterday trying to understand how it works i've closed the application bar in the bottom of the screen...how i open it back? i'm pretty sure it's a very easy thing to do but understand that for a newer (coming from win xp) is not that easy!! thanks a lot | 14:15 |
| AlexZion | Guest71495: you can open a panel bar , by clicking on the desktop and selecting add new panel ..... | 14:17 |
| Consul_Falx | :( | 14:17 |
| AlexZion | after that , you can put in your new panel any plasmoid you need ... | 14:17 |
| AlexZion | so by default for example , you have a quick access, a system menu , pager to manage desktops, and so on ... | 14:18 |
| Consul_Falx | updated kernel... kdm crashed again, same error "(ee) open: /dev/fb0" ... in the wizard, i chose "fall back to console login"... afterwards, kdm started by itself and I could have opened the session properly... WTF?! | 14:18 |
| Guest71495 | yep works thanx... i think that's the only button i didn't clicked! thanx again!! | 14:19 |
| gonzalo | ,m | 14:21 |
| rfgergrthnre | Can I install both KDE3 and 4 on a Kubuntu desktop? | 14:32 |
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| genii | rfgergrthnre: KDE3 is only supported on Hardy Heron (8.04) and even then not much longer. A fellow at Pearson Computing was supplying KDE3 versions of Intrepid, Jaunty, etc but these are KDE3 only and also not supported here. | 14:47 |
| rfgergrthnre | genii, you mean this guy? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Karmic | 14:49 |
| genii | rfgergrthnre: That's him, yes | 14:49 |
| Consul_Falx | !radeonhd | 14:50 |
| Consul_Falx | !info radeonhd | 14:50 |
| ubottu | Package radeonhd does not exist in karmic | 14:50 |
| Consul_Falx | o.O | 14:50 |
| Consul_Falx | !info radeon | 14:50 |
| ubottu | Package radeon does not exist in karmic | 14:50 |
| Consul_Falx | !radeon | 14:51 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 14:51 |
| rfgergrthnre | genii, okay... I'd go for it, but it seems like a bit of a schlep to have to specify -kde3 when using apt-get | 14:51 |
| Cracky_ | hail quacky | 14:51 |
| Cracky_ | problem: Dual boot, Kubuntu 9.10 with XP using WUBI, after every update, of KErnel: Currently 2.6.31.16 from 2.6.31.15 and 1.6.31.14 | 14:52 |
| Cracky_ | causes system to go into KERNEL PANIC and loss of data | 14:53 |
| Cracky_ | HEEELEP! | 14:53 |
| rfgergrthnre | Eek | 14:53 |
| Cracky_ | anyone? | 14:53 |
| rfgergrthnre | Cracky_, nope, except maybe reinstalling wubi | 14:53 |
| rfgergrthnre | Cracky_, and in a fresh install, avoid updating | 14:53 |
| Cracky_ | can i report is a bug? | 14:54 |
| Cracky_ | oops can i report it as a bug? | 14:54 |
| rfgergrthnre | I guess so | 14:54 |
| Cracky_ | thank you sir | 14:55 |
| genii | Cracky_: If you report it as a bug on Launchpad, file the bug against Wubi | 14:55 |
| Cracky_ | OK | 14:55 |
| rfgergrthnre | Cracky_, np... sorry I can't help more, but I'm a n00b | 14:55 |
| Cracky_ | well thanks anyway | 14:55 |
| Cracky_ | hope they rectify it on Lucid, cuz i need XP for games and don't wanna partition | 14:56 |
| Cracky_ | ciao | 14:56 |
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| robybat | ciao | 15:19 |
| Pici | !it | robybat | 15:20 |
| ubottu | robybat: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) | 15:20 |
| jeiworth | say have you noticed that in the default settings of the desktop configuration there is only the general root folder for wallpapers but not the personal one? | 15:34 |
| homer-80 | hi I have problem with mirophone from I have updated to 9.10 before it worked | 15:35 |
| ubsafder | i ha the same issue solved by looking into kmix | 15:36 |
| ubsafder | unmute what you need | 15:36 |
| ubsafder | else you can check into system-setting->multimedia check the order of the device that maybe a pb too | 15:38 |
| homer-80 | ubsafder: were you talking to me? | 15:39 |
| ubsafder | homer-80: yes | 15:40 |
| homer-80 | but kmuix is fine, if I try to open voice recorder it says this:Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them with the "Sound Preferences" under the System-Preferences menu. | 15:41 |
| homer-80 | it's card problem not volume | 15:41 |
| homer-80 | ubsafder: did you read? | 15:42 |
| homer-80 | anybody could help me out, with microphone? | 15:48 |
| nasoapippa | homer-80: what about alsamixer? | 15:51 |
| nasoapippa | homer-80: recognize the microphone? | 15:51 |
| homer-80 | they are fine, it's a card problem here the error message: Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them with the "Sound Preferences" under the System-Preferences menu. | 15:52 |
| homer-80 | no it doesn't | 15:52 |
| homer-80 | nasoapippa: are you italian? | 15:53 |
| nasoapippa | yes | 15:53 |
| homer-80 | me too | 15:53 |
| McNuggets | how do I turn the minimized preview off in kwin | 15:53 |
| nasoapippa | homer-80: ok, leggendo l'errore sembra che il problema sia la configurazione, non la scheda | 15:53 |
| homer-80 | nasoapippa: it doens't reconize the mic since I update to 9.10 | 15:53 |
| homer-80 | eh lo so! | 15:54 |
| homer-80 | come posso risolvere? ma possiamo parlare italiano qui? | 15:54 |
| nasoapippa | homer-80: non so, credo di si | 15:54 |
| Pici | !it | 15:54 |
| ubottu | Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) | 15:54 |
| nasoapippa | homer-80: ok, no | 15:55 |
| nasoapippa | :D | 15:55 |
| homer-80 | oik that's fine | 15:55 |
| homer-80 | how can I solve? | 15:55 |
| genii | McNuggets: Kmenu...Settings...System Settings... Desktop... Desktop Effects..."All Effects" Tab... uncheck "TaskBar Thumbnails" under the Appearance section | 15:57 |
| subito | how can i change the password for my kwallet? | 16:05 |
| genii | subito: A "down-and-dirty" way is to issue in Konsole: kdepasswd and change it there | 16:08 |
| subito | genii: the problem is that i don't remember the first pass i set for my kwallet | 16:10 |
| genii | subito: Then you could delete the ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl file | 16:13 |
| thibaut_ | Hi guys, does anyone know how to display covers in large size (say 600x600) in Amarok 2's Context panel? | 16:15 |
| subito | thanks genii | 16:19 |
| Infinitum | Has anybody encountered a problem where (I'm assuming) if the update to 9.10 karmic was cancelled it no longer shows up in the update notifier? | 16:20 |
| Infinitum | I've tried starting it with "update-notifier-kde -u" with no luck | 16:21 |
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| genii | Infinitum: What says result of: grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | 16:25 |
| Infinitum | normal | 16:29 |
| _nix_ | hey all | 16:31 |
| genii | Infinitum: Perhaps wipe ~/.kde/share/config/update-notifier-kderc | 16:32 |
| Balsaq | i just burned 910 to cd and tried it...i found it very attractive looking but not user friendly | 16:37 |
| Balsaq | and the default browser sizes web pages incorrectly....way off on that one | 16:38 |
| r00t_ninja | you can install firefox | 16:38 |
| Infinitum | genii: It's saying there's no such directory | 16:38 |
| r00t_ninja | and what did you find not user friendly? | 16:38 |
| Balsaq | just began looking for stuff, the way the options roll out...very odd | 16:39 |
| Balsaq | elegent looking but od to work with | 16:39 |
| Balsaq | odd* | 16:39 |
| Balsaq | hard to put my finger on it | 16:39 |
| Balsaq | was under the impression kubuntu was sort of the "windows" type of linux | 16:41 |
| Balsaq | i'll get used to it... | 16:41 |
| Y0Y0 | alt+f2 all menu i need | 16:41 |
| r00t_ninja | so its more that its different? | 16:42 |
| Balsaq | i dont like those 2 big square things on the desktop at all | 16:42 |
| r00t_ninja | you can change it to a normal desktop | 16:42 |
| Balsaq | ok | 16:42 |
| r00t_ninja | close those 2 widgets | 16:43 |
| r00t_ninja | then right click on the desktop | 16:43 |
| Balsaq | yup i know... | 16:43 |
| r00t_ninja | k | 16:43 |
| Balsaq | thanks | 16:43 |
| Balsaq | just very surprised at it | 16:43 |
| buckethead | Balsaq: Check out http://www.flickr.com/groups/plasma-desktop if your interested in different ideas on how to design plasma. | 16:43 |
| Balsaq | ok thanks | 16:44 |
| Balsaq | if i was too keep it i would have to re-do it | 16:44 |
| buckethead | I'm very "Emperor's new clothes" myself. I think I redesign everything twice a month. | 16:44 |
| r00t_ninja | ^same with me | 16:45 |
| Balsaq | well its really pretty | 16:45 |
| buckethead | Someone has already posted a very retro KDE 3-ish design. I would be very surprised if there isn't a couple windows-esque designs within the next week. | 16:47 |
| Balsaq | i realy think kubuntu should take a look at pclinuxos...its like pclinux copied kubuntu but made it better-way better | 16:47 |
| buckethead | both are based on the KDE SC, right? | 16:49 |
| Peace- | Balsaq: but it has kde4 or kde3 ? | 16:49 |
| Balsaq | not sure...kde something | 16:49 |
| llutz | Balsaq: you noticed, that you can configure your desktop on your own as you like? | 16:49 |
| Balsaq | yes thanks | 16:49 |
| Peace- | Balsaq: oh .... i think it has kde3 | 16:49 |
| Peace- | old version... | 16:49 |
| Balsaq | that kubuntu desktop could have been awesome right off the bat though | 16:50 |
| Peace- | kubuntu rocks here | 16:50 |
| Balsaq | i just was expecting some kind of windows/kubuntu linux experience for some reason | 16:50 |
| Peace- | no problem and fanstastic speed | 16:50 |
| Balsaq | no biggie | 16:50 |
| Balsaq | i'm sure it great | 16:50 |
| r00t_ninja | i think kubuntu probably could do with a bit more polish by default | 16:50 |
| Balsaq | just got it today...1st impressionwas just a little off | 16:51 |
| Peace- | guys i think this topic is offtopic :D | 16:51 |
| Peace- | !offtopic | 16:51 |
| ubottu | #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! | 16:51 |
| r00t_ninja | -.- | 16:51 |
| buckethead | pclos has the same version of KDE that I do .. 4.3.4. I think Kubuntu Karmic ships 4.3.2 by default. | 16:52 |
| Balsaq | ok | 16:52 |
| Peace- | buckethead: well... if you upgrade karmic can use kde 4.3.4 what's the point | 16:52 |
| imlad_ | I have Karmic running perfectly on the MacBook Pro. When I tried to log in under the KDE desktop, the system did not see my wireless network (which it sees fine under Ubuntu). Anything obvious I should do? | 16:54 |
| buckethead | Peace-: Differences between PCLOS and (default) karmic? | 16:54 |
| r00t_ninja | did you try connecting by clicking on the network manager icon and clicking connect to network? | 16:55 |
| Peace- | imlad_: you could reset .kde | 16:56 |
| Peace- | maybe some stuff about old version of kde can create some problems | 16:56 |
| Peace- | then you can install wicd... | 16:56 |
| Peace- | if you have problems | 16:56 |
| Kolia | imlad_: install wicd | 16:56 |
| imlad_ | Peace, how would I do that? | 16:57 |
| Scunizi | I've made a bootable live usb stick of kubuntu using the built in utility. Now I would like to get rid of the first 2 questions while booting to it .. ie.. language and "Try first - Live Environmant".. I want it to boot directly to the Live environment.. How do I do that? | 16:57 |
| Peace- | i have a wifi with wpa2-psk and i use the default network manager | 16:57 |
| Peace- | imlad_: anyway i have a wifi with wpa2-psk and i use the default network manager works fine here | 16:57 |
| Peace- | !wicd | 16:57 |
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| imlad_ | Peace, yea, that is what surprised me - I expected it simply to work, since it is working fine with the gnome desktop. | 16:58 |
| imlad_ | Kolia, looks like installing wicd removed network manager... | 16:59 |
| Peace- | imlad_: look at that http://imagebin.ca/view/pVswOPS.html | 16:59 |
| r00t_ninja | imlad_: so you cant see any wireless networks at all? | 17:00 |
| imlad_ | r00t_ninja - none whatsoever :-( | 17:00 |
| r00t_ninja | are you clicking on the knetworkmanager icon and then doing connect to network? | 17:00 |
| Scunizi | imlad_: that would be the right thing to do. | 17:00 |
| r00t_ninja | a new window will then come up with a list of networks | 17:01 |
| imlad_ | r00t_ninja: yes | 17:01 |
| imlad_ | and I don't see my home wireless network. | 17:02 |
| imlad_ | Scunizi - you mean to install wicd and have network manager uninstalled? | 17:02 |
| Kolia | imlad_: this is normal | 17:04 |
| Kolia | imlad_: wehn installing wicd it removes the network manager | 17:04 |
| Kolia | imlad_: now, just launch wicd if not done | 17:05 |
| imlad_ | Kolia, okay, I will try installing wicd and see how well it works. | 17:05 |
| Kolia | (alt+f2 and start to type wicd) | 17:05 |
| imlad_ | I will just do it from synaptic. | 17:05 |
| imlad_ | Peace and Kolia - will removing network manager adversely affect anything I am doing? | 17:11 |
| exhilarated | Dual booting, if I would like to install XP later and no grub is installed, then how can I do this? | 17:14 |
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| Scunizi | imlad_: yes.. typically you don't want both installed at the same time.. they have been known to interfear with each other. | 17:26 |
| exhilarated | Please help. | 17:27 |
| imlad_ | Scunizi, they are mutually exclusive, so there is no chance of that. | 17:27 |
| r00t_ninja | kubuntu des use grub | 17:27 |
| r00t_ninja | grub2 | 17:27 |
| imlad_ | Incidentally, I installed wicd, loged out and loged in to Kubuntu, and here I am, connected and all. | 17:27 |
| Scunizi | exhilarated: if you've installed k/ubuntu then you *have* grub installed.. no way around it. If you install XP after then you'll have to fix grub to get back into the k/ubuntu side.. | 17:27 |
| r00t_ninja | ^ | 17:28 |
| Scunizi | imlad_: didn't use to be that way :) | 17:28 |
| imlad_ | Ah, then I consider myself lucky that I don't have to deal with the old issues... | 17:28 |
| Scunizi | imlad_: one less worry | 17:28 |
| exhilarated | Scunizi: There is no grub in /boot, I found. | 17:29 |
| Scunizi | exhilarated: funny .. it's there in mine.. /boot/grub | 17:30 |
| draik | exhilarated: /var/run/ | 17:30 |
| * genii sips and thinks about things like wubi, and lilo | 17:30 | |
| draik | Hey genii :) | 17:31 |
| Scunizi | exhilarated: you'll also see /etc/grub.d | 17:31 |
| * genii hands draik a coffee | 17:31 | |
| draik | genii: Not a bad idea at all. | 17:32 |
| * Scunizi finishes his coffee and get's up for a refill.. disappointed that genii didn't offer :( | 17:34 | |
| * genii waves, hands out coffee, goes back to work | 17:35 | |
| r00t_ninja | !ot | 17:36 |
| ubottu | #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! | 17:36 |
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| cumulus007 | Hi, when will the 4.4 beta 1 packages be available for consumption? | 17:58 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| jussi01 | cumulus007: when they are done. | 18:01 |
| jussi01 | :) | 18:01 |
| cumulus007 | jussi01: and when is "when" :P | 18:01 |
| jussi01 | cumulus007: as I said, when they are done and ready. shouldnt be too long, but when the devs get it done :) | 18:02 |
| cumulus007 | hm ok | 18:02 |
| bradpitt | what's new with 4.4? | 18:03 |
| jussi01 | bradpitt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEuapaLJF8g | 18:03 |
| r00t_ninja | kwin has tabbed windows | 18:04 |
| bradpitt | 4.4 is for LTS release? | 18:06 |
| daniele_ | \join #teramo | 18:06 |
| JerVA | Hello - I need to figure how to set up desktop theme - | 18:13 |
| Shaxor | Hay Does anyone here use Emesene? | 18:13 |
| JerVA | Anybody here have desktop themes knowledge? | 18:15 |
| ronnie | I had trouble with "jaunty" so stuck with "hardy", so any users find "karmic" to be good & stable, few bugs? alota bugs? | 18:17 |
| r00t_ninja | -.- | 18:18 |
| ronnie | hmm no comments, anyone like karmic koala, still have a few bugs N kinks to work out? | 18:22 |
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| Shaxor | Well I have been using 9.10 for like the past month, theres some small kinks I ran into but other then that its fine for me | 18:23 |
| ronnie | k thx, I have a spare 40gig, I'll try it out b4 I commit my larger drive to it : ) | 18:24 |
| Shaxor | Yeah thats a safe move xD | 18:25 |
| Shaxor | Oh and before you try doing anything you should run "sudo update" Just to besafe after you install 9.10 | 18:27 |
| BluesKaj | Shaxor, I'm not impressed with the wifi management , it had more security options than the newer one has wep being the only option | 18:27 |
| BluesKaj | regression | 18:28 |
| ronnie | yes I will, usually update after install, then start checking if my regular programs work, or still exist, | 18:28 |
| Shaxor | I didn't seem to run in to any problems with the Wifi manager BluesKaj | 18:29 |
| BluesKaj | do you have wpa2 option, Shaxor? | 18:29 |
| Shaxor | yes | 18:30 |
| BluesKaj | hmm, that's odd the network manager I was using did not have it, switched to wicd | 18:30 |
| Shaxor | Theres a drop down menu that has the security types and I just pick the one that my router has | 18:31 |
| ronnie | <--into midi music, why i stuck with hardy, couldn't get jack control server to work on "jaunty", hope it will on "karmic", besides my other music apps (optional kubuntu downloads) | 18:31 |
| Shaxor | but I think by default it always says wep | 18:31 |
| ronnie | thx again, PoWer To Linux! Death To da Blue screen Muhahaha | 18:32 |
| BluesKaj | wep isn't my defintion of a secure wifi connection, but some ppl feel safe with it | 18:33 |
| draik | BluesKaj: It's better than having nothing (sometimes) | 18:34 |
| BluesKaj | yeah draik, that's why I usw wicd ..I think it's shameful that network-manager only offers wep as default | 18:35 |
| draik | I refer to WEP's "security" as having those small chain links for protection on a keyless door knob. A little force and you're in. | 18:36 |
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| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| phoenixz | Are there any KDE4.4 repositories available for Kubuntu 9.10? | 18:47 |
| binarylooks | phoenixz: WIP (work in progress) | 18:49 |
| binarylooks | there wil be an announcement on www.kubuntu.org when its ready | 18:49 |
| phoenixz | binarylooks: I know, it should be alpha or beta, by now.. But so far, there were always repos available of these KDE4 versions for kubuntu | 18:49 |
| phoenixz | binarylooks: I've always been ahead, so far, it was always a great experience | 18:49 |
| binarylooks | phoenixz: sometimes quality takes a bit longer..(i wonder how opensuse can always be so quick) | 18:50 |
| phoenixz | binarylooks: I know, but KDE4.4 is already in beta.. there must be repos already to be able to give it a try | 18:51 |
| binarylooks | phoenixz: there wil be a ppa. kde sc 4.4 has to be compiled to work on the karmic system (lucis had priority) | 18:52 |
| phoenixz | binarylooks: exactly, Im looking for that PPA | 18:53 |
| phoenixz | whts lucis? | 18:53 |
| phoenixz | whats lucis? | 18:53 |
| binarylooks | sorry, of course I meant lucid lynx | 18:53 |
| binarylooks | there is an opensuse livecd with kde sc 4.4 if you really are anxious to try | 18:54 |
| phoenixz | binarylooks: so you don't know if there is a 4.4 ppa? | 18:55 |
| maco | we're working on packaging 4.4 beta 1 right now | 18:55 |
| binarylooks | phoenixz: i know there is none at the moment but it will be ready in several days | 18:55 |
| maco | they'll be going into lucid first, then there'll be a karmic ppa | 18:55 |
| genii | phoenixz: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu lucid main universe multiverse restricted has the 4.3.80 (aka 4.4 beta1) prelim work in it. But breakage right now | 18:56 |
| pr0speed2007 | Всем привет | 18:56 |
| * maco currently fighting with kdeedu | 18:56 | |
| binarylooks | staging is dangerous ! DO NOT USE | 18:56 |
| phoenixz | But thats a lucid repo, no? | 18:56 |
| pr0speed2007 | Русские есть ??? | 18:56 |
| maco | phoenixz: yes, as i just said, we're doing lucid first | 18:56 |
| maco | !ru | pr0speed2007 | 18:56 |
| ubottu | pr0speed2007: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke | 18:56 |
| binarylooks | wow, ubottu speaks russian :-) | 18:57 |
| phoenixz | :) Blame me for wanting to see KDE4.4.. Just has to be sweet.. | 18:57 |
| binarylooks | phoenixz: i'm feeling with you. actually took all the pain to build from trunk | 18:58 |
| binarylooks | it was worth it, but now i can wait | 18:58 |
| phoenixz | binarylooks: I have not the slightest idea how to create these packages.. if I did, I'd be building myself right now | 18:58 |
| bmunger | i know this is a long shot...but i cannot get my screen to lock since i installed my nvidia card and binary drivers... is there some way to run a command that locks the screen so i can see console output? | 18:58 |
| binarylooks | bmunger: thare should be a dbus command...(let me see) | 18:59 |
| jimmy51_ | bmunger: you mean you want it to lock so you can walk away and have to enter a password? | 18:59 |
| phoenixz | ?binarylooks: Just thinking.. will KDE4.4 FINALLY please have an a) normal packager that is easy and actually works, b) a network configuration plasma widget | 18:59 |
| bmunger | jimmy51_: yes | 18:59 |
| bmunger | binarylooks: thanks | 18:59 |
| jimmy51_ | bmunger: ctrl-alt-L | 18:59 |
| binarylooks | phoenixz: this is all independent from kde, it depends what the kubuntu devs want to do with it | 19:00 |
| jimmy51_ | bmunger: after i installed nvidia, clicking the lock on the k menu does nothing | 19:00 |
| jimmy51_ | bmunger: but ctrl-alt-L works | 19:00 |
| bmunger | jimmy51_: yes i know the command but it's not working... even lock from the desktop and screen saver lock are not working.. it worked until i installed a new video card | 19:00 |
| bmunger | weird | 19:00 |
| phoenixz | well please, network manager widget, pretty please please.... | 19:00 |
| jimmy51_ | bmunger: yeah, sure is weird. | 19:00 |
| maco | knetworkmanager doesnt work in 9.10? | 19:00 |
| maco | it worked fine for me... | 19:00 |
| r00t_ninja | same here | 19:00 |
| maco | nm plasmoid in 9.04 was fubar though | 19:01 |
| binarylooks | binarylooks: +1 for the network manager | 19:01 |
| bmunger | jimmy51_: its unacceptable in my work environment | 19:01 |
| maco | screenlock works *very* well for me. so well it wont unlock *even with* the right password | 19:02 |
| maco | (sometimes) | 19:02 |
| binarylooks | bmunger: sorry, i cant seem to recall the command to see a list of all dbus messages, i'll google | 19:02 |
| jimmy51_ | bmunger: definitely. anyone here know if the screenlocker can output a log? | 19:02 |
| r00t_ninja | so going into the leave tab of kmenu and clicking lock doesnt work? | 19:02 |
| tsimpson | binarylooks: the network manager widget is part of KDE, not Kubuntu | 19:03 |
| jimmy51_ | r00t_ninja: that doesn't work for me. i have to ctrl-alt-L | 19:03 |
| bmunger | r00t_ninja: tried that too.. no work | 19:03 |
| phoenixz | maco: well, every time there is another network manager.. right now I have a network manager.. I dunno which it is, but its pugly, hangs when I select a network connection until that connection is established (or times out) etc.. | 19:03 |
| tsimpson | well, it exactly part of KDE | 19:03 |
| r00t_ninja | weird it works fiine for me | 19:03 |
| tsimpson | but we don't make it | 19:03 |
| bmunger | r00t_ninja: nvidia binary drivers? | 19:04 |
| r00t_ninja | yes | 19:04 |
| binarylooks | tsimpson: thats partially true, i'm not sure if it is out of playground already for 4.4 | 19:04 |
| jimmy51_ | r00t_ninja: are you runni.... what he said :) | 19:04 |
| r00t_ninja | i have an older card though | 19:04 |
| r00t_ninja | nvidia fx 5500 | 19:04 |
| bmunger | r00t_ninja: what about multiple monitors? | 19:04 |
| bmunger | ok... this is a 9500 | 19:04 |
| r00t_ninja | no | 19:04 |
| bmunger | jimmy51_: multiple monitors? | 19:04 |
| jimmy51_ | bmunger: yes | 19:04 |
| bmunger | that might be it then | 19:04 |
| r00t_ninja | have you tried without multiple monitors? | 19:04 |
| bmunger | going to.. hold on | 19:05 |
| bmunger | hmm seems the same | 19:06 |
| binarylooks | bmunger: i also have an nvidia with multiple monitors, no problem here to lock the screens | 19:07 |
| lab02 | CAla a boca seus marginais | 19:07 |
| bmunger | ok | 19:07 |
| bmunger | with binary drivers | 19:07 |
| binarylooks | yep | 19:07 |
| jimmy51_ | binarylooks: do you know if screenlocker can be config'd to log what it's doing? | 19:07 |
| binarylooks | jimmy51_: did u check the regular log files of kde? | 19:08 |
| bmunger | hmm | 19:08 |
| jimmy51_ | binarylooks: nope. i'm not even sure where those are :( | 19:09 |
| bmunger | me either | 19:09 |
| binarylooks | jimmy51_: ksystemlog | 19:10 |
| binarylooks | use the alt+f2 runner | 19:10 |
| tsimpson | kde apps (most GUI apps) usually log to ~/.xsession-errors | 19:10 |
| jimmy51_ | that looks handy | 19:11 |
| bmunger | weird... alt-f2 doesnt work anymore either | 19:12 |
| r00t_ninja | lolz | 19:12 |
| bmunger | alt f1 and alt f3 work fine | 19:12 |
| binarylooks | bmunger: try "qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock" | 19:12 |
| bradpitt | this is a lil bit OT but i'm curious is there any replacement for kpackagekit on kde 4.4? | 19:13 |
| bmunger | binarylooks: Service 'org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver' does not exist. | 19:13 |
| tsimpson | bradpitt: KDE do not make the package manager, but you can still use adept in karmic | 19:13 |
| binarylooks | hmmm...there seems to be something missing | 19:13 |
| binarylooks | bmunger: u are using karmic? | 19:14 |
| bmunger | binarylooks: yes | 19:14 |
| bmunger | binarylooks: maybe thats for gnome? | 19:15 |
| binarylooks | no, i just tried it on my system and it triggers a lock | 19:15 |
| tsimpson | looks like it's part of krunner | 19:15 |
| tsimpson | so krunner must be running to get the interface | 19:16 |
| bmunger | great | 19:16 |
| bmunger | probably have some sort of corruption then | 19:16 |
| binarylooks | if i rin the command from konsole it also locks, independantly of krunner | 19:16 |
| tsimpson | the interface is provided by krunner | 19:16 |
| bmunger | i had to do a nasty powerdown during boot because it was failing on mounting my disks | 19:17 |
| binarylooks | does "qdbus"on konsole give lots of numbers? | 19:17 |
| bmunger | yea a lot of stuff | 19:17 |
| binarylooks | does your screensaver work? | 19:17 |
| tsimpson | is krunner running? | 19:17 |
| bmunger | screensaver does work.. | 19:17 |
| bmunger | krunner is not in process list | 19:18 |
| tsimpson | that's why the dbus call isn't working | 19:18 |
| bmunger | findServiceByDesktopPath: not found | 19:18 |
| tsimpson | it should be started by KDE when you login | 19:18 |
| bmunger | when i run krunner | 19:18 |
| bmunger | ok | 19:19 |
| tsimpson | !find bin/krunner | 19:19 |
| ubottu | File bin/krunner found in kdebase-workspace-bin, kdebase-workspace-dbg | 19:19 |
| tsimpson | do you have kdebase-workspace-bin installed? | 19:19 |
| bmunger | should i dpkg-reconfigure? | 19:19 |
| bmunger | ill check | 19:19 |
| bmunger | yes its installed | 19:19 |
| tsimpson | how about kdebase-workspace? | 19:20 |
| r00t_ninja | have you tried logging out then in or rebooting? | 19:20 |
| bmunger | kdebase-workspace is not installed | 19:20 |
| bmunger | hmm | 19:20 |
| tsimpson | looks like kdebase-workspace is just a meta-package anyway | 19:20 |
| bmunger | i havent logged out or rebooted since i found it not to work | 19:20 |
| binarylooks | also not on my computer | 19:20 |
| binarylooks | (i maen kdebase-workspcae | 19:21 |
| bmunger | yea | 19:21 |
| binarylooks | (sorry for the typos) | 19:21 |
| bmunger | no problem | 19:21 |
| bmunger | so its something wrong with krunner... | 19:22 |
| r00t_ninja | i dont have kdebase-workspace either | 19:22 |
| binarylooks | bmunger: try "qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver SetActive 1" from konsole | 19:22 |
| bmunger | binarylooks: screen saver turns on but not password protected | 19:23 |
| r00t_ninja | try rebooting | 19:23 |
| binarylooks | ok, so qdbus works correctly | 19:23 |
| bmunger | did output this: Xlib: extension "XFree86-Misc" missing on display ":0.0". | 19:23 |
| binarylooks | bmunger: did you change settings in the session manager? or power manager? | 19:23 |
| bmunger | binarylooks: no i havent | 19:23 |
| binarylooks | check your power management | 19:24 |
| bmunger | i did a kernel update today and installed nvidia card and binary drivers..thats all | 19:24 |
| bmunger | ok | 19:24 |
| binarylooks | ther should be an option "lock screen on resume" | 19:24 |
| bmunger | yes its checked | 19:24 |
| binarylooks | in the general settings | 19:24 |
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| binarylooks | damn | 19:24 |
| bmunger | wait all of a sudden its working now | 19:25 |
| bmunger | i didnt change anything either | 19:25 |
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| bmunger | both krunner and screen lock | 19:25 |
| binarylooks | binarylooks: well its the result that matters :-) | 19:25 |
| jimmy51_ | bmunger: i've found that to be the case with my screen locking | 19:26 |
| jimmy51_ | (works one minute, not the next) | 19:26 |
| bmunger | i wonder if the qdbus screen saver triggered something | 19:26 |
| bmunger | oh | 19:26 |
| binarylooks | bmunger: possible | 19:26 |
| bmunger | thanks guys | 19:26 |
| binarylooks | bmunger: anyway, i love kde on 2 screens | 19:27 |
| bmunger | i learned some new things about the system too | 19:27 |
| binarylooks | bmunger: ur welcome | 19:27 |
| bmunger | yea only thing i would like to do is add another panel on the 2nd screen at the bottom | 19:27 |
| bmunger | just for tasks on that screen | 19:27 |
| binarylooks | now lets see if there is any progress in kubuntu-ppa... | 19:27 |
| tsimpson | binarylooks: it'll be announced on kubuntu.org and in the channel topic when packages are available | 19:28 |
| binarylooks | ...there are things building...nice | 19:28 |
| binarylooks | tsimpson: sorry, it's like christmas :-) | 19:28 |
| bmunger | brb | 19:30 |
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| Yux1 | hi | 19:41 |
| Yux1 | how to add a win7 partition to grub in kubuntu 9.10 ?? | 19:42 |
| r00t_ninja | try "sudo update-grub" | 19:43 |
| Yux1 | Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic | 19:44 |
| Yux1 | Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-14-generic | 19:44 |
| Yux1 | Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin | 19:44 |
| Yux1 | and not found my win7 partition :( | 19:44 |
| Daskreech | Yux1: as I recall there is some special rules. are you using grub or grub2 ? | 19:46 |
| r00t_ninja | what about grub-mkconfig | 19:46 |
| r00t_ninja | what about sudo grub-mkconfig | 19:46 |
| Yux1 | Daskreech: i'm using grub2 with grub.cfg | 19:47 |
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| hellhound_ | can anyone tell me why when I am connect via wifi, I am not able to view flash videos? I go to websites and I can browse my local network drives, but for some reason I am not able to view internet flash video on youtube or hulu. i can view these video when connected view wired connection though | 19:57 |
| alexander_ | can anyone tell me why myl inux system reads only the 3 out of 4 gigabyte ram memory? | 19:58 |
| maco | alexander_: running 32bit? | 19:59 |
| alexander_ | maco: 64 | 20:00 |
| r00t_ninja | you sure? | 20:00 |
| alexander_ | yes | 20:00 |
| maco | is your bios detecting all 4? | 20:00 |
| r00t_ninja | output of uname -a | 20:00 |
| maco | maybe 1 stick not pushed in all the way? | 20:00 |
| alexander_ | cant acess my bios atm | 20:00 |
| jimmy51_ | maybe tri channel setup? | 20:01 |
| maco | possibly not pushed in all teh way, possibly bad ram, possibly a bug in either your bios or the kernel | 20:01 |
| r00t_ninja | what is the output of the command "uname -a" | 20:01 |
| alexander_ | Linux Laptop 2.6.31-16-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 3 22:07:16 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 20:02 |
| r00t_ninja | ok | 20:02 |
| r00t_ninja | definitly x86_64 lol | 20:02 |
| alexander_ | any ideas? | 20:04 |
| maco | alexander_: possibly not pushed in all teh way, possibly bad ram, possibly a bug in either your bios or the kernel | 20:04 |
| maco | alexander_: when you next reboot check and see if your bios says you have 4. if not, probably one of the first two | 20:05 |
| maco | alexander_: you can do a memory test from the live cd | 20:05 |
| maco | let memtest run a few hours and itll exercise your ram to check for errors | 20:06 |
| alexander_ | i just bought them | 20:06 |
| maco | so what? | 20:06 |
| alexander_ | the y are brand new | 20:06 |
| maco | what's your point? | 20:06 |
| maco | new doesnt mean working | 20:06 |
| alexander_ | i got 2 rams 2giga each | 20:06 |
| maco | the good thing about new thing being broken is that they're still under warranty | 20:07 |
| alexander_ | i dont think one ram would work half | 20:07 |
| maco | much better than old things being broken | 20:07 |
| maco | there are quite a few modules on one stick of ram. its possible one stick has some bad modules | 20:07 |
| alexander_ | meaning that one 2gigabyte ram coulp possibly work as a 1gigabyte one? | 20:08 |
| maco | sure | 20:08 |
| maco | you know how its got all those little black rectangles? | 20:09 |
| maco | a few of them could be bad | 20:09 |
| alexander_ | but in that case the whole stick wouldnt work | 20:10 |
| maco | i know you can have memory that seems to work but gets corrupted a lot | 20:10 |
| maco | because its got just a few bad cells | 20:11 |
| maco | so it seems logical to me that you could have a few bad modules on one stick and have the stick still function | 20:11 |
| * Mamarok wonders if it's not just a 32-64 bit confusion | 20:11 | |
| maco | unless theyre serial, not parallel... | 20:11 |
| tazz | what would be the best way for me to repartition my ntfs partition and add some more space in my current ext4 partition. | 20:11 |
| maco | Mamarok: nah, already checked uname output | 20:11 |
| Mamarok | since 32 bit supports up to max 3 Gb RAM | 20:11 |
| Mamarok | ok | 20:11 |
| maco | it could also be the bios and kernel having a disagreemet | 20:12 |
| maco | *disagreement | 20:12 |
| maco | in which case, check for a bios update | 20:12 |
| alexander_ | i was also told that in windows 64bit computers read 3gigabyte but they work on 4 gigabyte ram properly | 20:13 |
| maco | thats rather weird | 20:13 |
| alexander_ | the technician told me so | 20:14 |
| maco | its still weird | 20:14 |
| maco | i mean, why would they have it do that? | 20:14 |
| maco | well i can tell you that on kubuntu 9.10, all 4gb of my ram are detected in "free -m" | 20:14 |
| alexander_ | i dont know i have the same question aw well | 20:14 |
| maco | so this is certainly hardware specific | 20:14 |
| maco | either bad hardware or a bad bios | 20:15 |
| r00t_ninja | does your bios have an option for memory reallocation or memory remapping? | 20:16 |
| alexander_ | i have a problem with my bios i cant access it | 20:17 |
| r00t_ninja | oh | 20:17 |
| r00t_ninja | is this a laptop or desltop? | 20:17 |
| alexander_ | laptop | 20:17 |
| r00t_ninja | i read in some post that alot of laptops do not come with support for 4gb of ram in the bios without a bios upgrade | 20:18 |
| alexander_ | its possible i need a bios upgrade but how can i be sure about it since i cant access it? | 20:19 |
| koza | wtf? | 20:19 |
| maco | koza: what? | 20:19 |
| koza | nothing ;p | 20:20 |
| jimmy51_ | i just showed off my 9.10 setup to some co-workers. i've got dual 23" widescreen's, and four virtual desktops. one of the virtual desktops is home to two VM's, one XP, one windows 7. | 20:21 |
| jimmy51_ | they're each full screen on their own monitor | 20:21 |
| jimmy51_ | the other three virtual desktops are pure linux and i can switch between them with ease | 20:21 |
| genii | alexander_: In the first page or so of output from: sudo lshw | less it should have some info on what make/model/bios version | 20:22 |
| ghostman | http://www.blauenarzisse.de/v3/index.php/aktuelles/1184-climagate-hacker-ueberfuehren-ipcc-zweigstelle-der-systematischen-luege | 20:22 |
| jimmy51_ | i spend 75% of my time in the linux world and 25% in windows, and prefer the linux world. my staunch MS co-workers now see why | 20:22 |
| ghostman | http://www.blauenarzisse.de/v3/index.php/aktuelles/1184-climagate-hacker-ueberfuehren-ipcc-zweigstelle-der-systematischen-luege | 20:22 |
| ghostman | http://www.blauenarzisse.de/v3/index.php/aktuelles/1184-climagate-hacker-ueberfuehren-ipcc-zweigstelle-der-systematischen-luege | 20:22 |
| genii | ghostman: You've already been booted from #ubuntu , want to go from here too now? | 20:22 |
| jimmy51_ | +3 potential converts | 20:22 |
| ghostman | http://www.blauenarzisse.de/v3/index.php/aktuelles/1184-climagate-hacker-ueberfuehren-ipcc-zweigstelle-der-systematischen-luege | 20:22 |
| Daskreech | genii: Silly question | 20:23 |
| genii | Daskreech: :) | 20:23 |
| secure_ | lo all | 20:23 |
| secure_ | genii, I take it ghostman is now a ghost :) | 20:24 |
| alexander_ | genii: is sudo lshw | less supposed to take time to work? | 20:24 |
| genii | alexander_: It takes a minute to gather info, then should pipe that into "less" which lets you go through the results | 20:24 |
| secure_ | could someone explain how to change your logon screen ? Thanks/ | 20:24 |
| alexander_ | genii:*-memory | 20:27 |
| alexander_ | : | 20:27 |
| alexander_ | description: System Memory | 20:27 |
| alexander_ | : | 20:27 |
| alexander_ | physical id: 19 | 20:27 |
| FloodBotK1 | alexander_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. | 20:27 |
| alexander_ | : | 20:27 |
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| Roasted | WOOP | 20:29 |
| === l0wk3y is now known as badworddrop | ||
| alexander_ | genii:*-memory, description: System Memory, physical id: 19, slot: System board or motherboard, size: 4GiB | 20:31 |
| genii | alexander_: What you can do is install pastebinit , and then do something like: sudo lshw | pastebinit and then give us the URL it shows after | 20:34 |
| genii | ( there seems no -C class for "firmware" or "bios" or "cmos" in the lshw command, unfortunately) | 20:35 |
| nicklas_ | any kubuntu repos maintainers here? im using the kubuntu ppa and backports, when kde 4.4 is released, will it be in there? and how will this affect my system? | 20:35 |
| genii | nicklas_: You may want to ask in #kubuntu-devel | 20:36 |
| maco | nicklas_: we're packagn 4.4b1 for lucid right now and a karmic ppa will exist when we're done with lucid, but i dont know which ppa thatll be | 20:36 |
| nicklas_ | ok | 20:36 |
| Quintasan | nicklas_: this is BETA, do not expect it to work flawlessly, it might even break your current KDE configuration | 20:37 |
| * Quintasan 's Lucid VM is borked :/ | 20:37 | |
| nicklas_ | so it might be smart to remove the repos? | 20:37 |
| Quintasan | nicklas_: yes, at least for now | 20:38 |
| Quintasan | I'm going to do some testing and I will post notices to identi.ca | 20:39 |
| nicklas_ | Quintasan: well, what can happen? | 20:39 |
| nicklas_ | Quintasan: ok | 20:39 |
| Quintasan | nicklas_: you're configuration can conflict and you can be forced to move it and let kde create new config | 20:39 |
| Quintasan | plasma will probably crash constantly since it's devel release | 20:39 |
| nicklas_ | Quintasan: i see | 20:40 |
| Quintasan | That didn't happen in my debian trunk but noone said it will work for everyone :P | 20:40 |
| nicklas_ | Quintasan: well thats ok, not so hard to change the configs back | 20:40 |
| Quintasan | well I informed you what can happen so feel free to test it or not :P | 20:40 |
| Quintasan | Feedback is welcome :D | 20:40 |
| nicklas_ | yes :-) | 20:41 |
| Daskreech | nicklas_: I'd say backup your ~/.kde dir now | 20:41 |
| nicklas_ | Daskreech: you think so? :-P | 20:41 |
| nicklas_ | when will 4.4 hit the repos then? | 20:41 |
| Quintasan | well, I'm off, need to learn :P | 20:41 |
| FloodBotK1 | !netsplit | 20:43 |
| ubottu | netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit | 20:43 |
| rosco_y | can anyone suggest an easy way to use my scanner on my all-in-one printer? | 20:43 |
| r00t_ninja | rosco_y: isnth there like xscan or something that comes by default | 20:45 |
| rosco_y | r00t_ninja: thank you--will look into that :) | 20:46 |
| r00t_ninja | im fairly sure its included by default somewhere | 20:46 |
| r00t_ninja | oh already said that lol | 20:46 |
| r00t_ninja | Go to Applications → Graphics → XSane Image Scanner. | 20:49 |
| nub | hinub | 21:06 |
| nub | how do I show the desktop folder on the desktop, I accidently closed it but I want it back now | 21:06 |
| nub | I am brand spanking new to ubuntu | 21:06 |
| jimmy51_ | nub it's a widget | 21:06 |
| jimmy51_ | right cvlick, add widget | 21:06 |
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| nub | show folder widget? | 21:07 |
| jimmy51_ | yeah | 21:07 |
| nub | oh thanks so much jimmy, it worked! | 21:07 |
| nub | now that I have a running version of ubuntu what can I do with it? | 21:08 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: whatever you want, i suppose :) | 21:08 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: what would you do with any computer? | 21:08 |
| nub | well hmm, can I run a domain with it? | 21:08 |
| nub | so when I try to log into the windows computers on my network I can sign in and assign user name and password with files for each user on the server? | 21:09 |
| Daskreech | nub: Yes you acn | 21:09 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: you sure can... with varying complexity. you can share out files and folders to users using Samba | 21:09 |
| nub | strange, when I typed in samba it said not installed | 21:10 |
| jimmy51_ | it's not by default | 21:10 |
| nub | but when I tried to install it it said samba is already the latest version | 21:11 |
| Daskreech | !domain | 21:11 |
| nub | ahh nevermind, it is samba4 not samba :P | 21:11 |
| * nub waits as samba installs | 21:11 | |
| nub | what are some other essential things to run on ubuntu? | 21:13 |
| nub | is perl and python programming supported by default? | 21:13 |
| r00t_ninja | i think they are | 21:13 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: did you install ubuntu or Kubuntu? | 21:13 |
| nub | kubuntu desktop for the gui on server | 21:13 |
| tsimpson | both perl and python are installed by default | 21:14 |
| jimmy51_ | ok. so you installed ubuntu server, and then the kubuntu-desktop | 21:14 |
| nub | yup | 21:14 |
| Daskreech | jimmy51_: you just put a desktop Folder view up didn't you? | 21:14 |
| nub | I did | 21:15 |
| jimmy51_ | Daskreech: no... i told nub how to | 21:15 |
| Daskreech | Right. so wouldn't that be Kubuntu? :) | 21:15 |
| jimmy51_ | Daskreech: well, he kept saying he had installed ubuntu, and his questions were asking if perl/python were installed. | 21:16 |
| nub | is samba fairly straight forward? | 21:16 |
| jimmy51_ | it seemed likely he had a non-standard install | 21:16 |
| jimmy51_ | regardless of whether or not KDE were installed. who knows though.... i'm new :) | 21:16 |
| koza | Hey Everbody ;p | 21:17 |
| jimmy51_ | (well, new to trying to help people... not new to sitting here asking questions) | 21:17 |
| nub | I dont think kde is standard for ubuntu, oh nevermind I installed ubuntu server | 21:17 |
| nub | ubuntu server just loads with a basic command promt thing | 21:17 |
| nub | p* | 21:17 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: so... what are you hoping to do? is this a home server? i've got an ubuntu home server set up at home running backuppc | 21:19 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: it backs up my documents on my machines each night | 21:19 |
| nub | just trying to learn somethign other than windows | 21:19 |
| koza | windows fail.. | 21:19 |
| koza | windows 7 fail.. | 21:20 |
| nub | I heard ubuntu is a lot more versatile and better in every way | 21:20 |
| nub | is it possible to do everythign on a windows box and more? | 21:20 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: i don't know... that's probably a matter of opinion | 21:20 |
| koza | You can boot/start ubuntu/kubuntu od Windows Box. I tryed this | 21:20 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: i've been able to do anything i've needed on my kubuntu workstations and ubuntu server though | 21:20 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: and my wife lovbes it | 21:21 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: i'd say make a list of stuff you want your server to do... then investigate how to get it to do it | 21:21 |
| nub | I would like to host a website on it | 21:22 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: go for it. apache is a popular webserver | 21:22 |
| jimmy51_ | !apache | 21:22 |
| nub | but I do not even hardly know the file system, where is the file server hosted by default? | 21:22 |
| ubottu | LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) | 21:22 |
| koza | My best experience: Samba PDC (Prmary Domain Controler) on Ubuntu 9.04 Server Edition for Windsown NT & XP | 21:22 |
| jimmy51_ | koza: does that use LDAP to fake an AD? | 21:23 |
| jimmy51_ | koza: if so, that sounds cool | 21:23 |
| Thundercross | !xorg | 21:24 |
| ubottu | The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution | 21:24 |
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| nub | is dolphin an alternative to samba? | 21:29 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: dolphin is a file browser | 21:31 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: like windows file explorer. | 21:31 |
| nub | I have installed samba however when I tried running it from the command it only displayed a list of ignored variables | 21:32 |
| nub | is there no gui for samba? | 21:32 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: i think you need to read some samba tutorials | 21:32 |
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| jimmy51_ | nub: i don't think samba itself has a GUI, but there have been some written for it | 21:33 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: kde has a samba GUI you can install and use, but i think you'd be best served by learning the conf file for it | 21:34 |
| fjellrev1 | I'm having huge problems with my xserver, tells me that compatmap has bad lengths and something about xkb can't compile. I have done as the howto's say : reinstall kde-desktop xserver-xorg and so forth, also tried "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " and "dpkg -reconfigure-a " but to no success.anyone else have any suggestions on what to do ? | 21:35 |
| rstob911 | nub: webmin is a nice samba tool | 21:36 |
| * Daskreech high fives jimmy51_ Thanks for helping out | 21:36 | |
| genii | rstob911: webmin has also been removed from Ubuntu due to it's many problems, replaced by ebox | 21:36 |
| relic420 | hi i am currently in ubuntue, i installed kubuntu threw the apt and when i tried to boot into kde i got a error about low graphics mode, when i tried to make a new configure file, it wouldnt go past the second dialog so i crashed out of kde, how can i fix this so i can switch to kde from gnome? | 21:37 |
| Daskreech | nub: For some defintion of everything | 21:37 |
| rstob911 | genii: didnt realize | 21:37 |
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| === Bill-Gates is now known as esker | ||
| jimmy51_ | Daskreech: thanks. | 21:37 |
| Daskreech | !fhs | nub this should help | 21:37 |
| ubottu | nub this should help: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview | 21:37 |
| jimmy51_ | ooh, that's helpful | 21:38 |
| Daskreech | relic420: ok start over where does it crash? | 21:38 |
| jimmy51_ | nub: if you've already taken the trouble to install kde on top of ubuntu-server, you might want to try installing kdenetwork-filresharing (i'm reading http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3108360) | 21:39 |
| * jimmy51_ heads out the door 12 minutes early to try to avoid the snow induced traffic | 21:40 | |
| Daskreech | Schnow!!! | 21:40 |
| hellhound_ | can anyone tell me why when I am connect via wifi, I am not able to view flash videos? I go to websites and I can browse my local network drives, but for some reason I am not able to view internet flash video on youtube or hulu. i can view these video when connected view wired connection though | 21:43 |
| ||arifaX | where can I details about how knetwork-manager initiates vpn connections. is there a special channel? | 21:44 |
| === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez | ||
| jet | hi, does anybody know how to change the configuration kde uses for multiple monitors? i have two monitors and kde activations the second one when i hit the shortcut onm my laptop (function-f8) but i displays the same screen on both monitors... i was looking for twinview... | 21:46 |
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| Daskreech | hellhound_: Using which browser? | 21:52 |
| Daskreech | ||arifaX: Umm I'd ask in #plasma | 21:52 |
| Daskreech | jet: Twinview is in the driver enable it there | 21:52 |
| ||arifaX | Daskreech: thanks | 21:53 |
| nub | what was that one program kdenetwork-xxxxxxxxx | 21:53 |
| nub | I can't find it when I scroll up | 21:53 |
| r00t_ninja | kdenetwork-manager? | 21:53 |
| nub | is a program the proper thing to call it with ubuntu? | 21:53 |
| nub | yes, thank you | 21:53 |
| Daskreech | nub: Yes that's fine | 21:54 |
| jet | you mean just using nvidia-settings to enable? ok, that's what i've been doing... just wondering if kde supported through a keyboard shortcut instead... | 21:54 |
| nub | my computer is unable to find the kdenetwork-manager tho | 21:54 |
| jet | thanks, and maybe i'll ask in plamsa since that's probably where this type of thing is | 21:54 |
| nub | also I am unable to run ebox for some reason | 21:55 |
| r00t_ninja | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_grading_in_New_Zealand | 21:55 |
| r00t_ninja | err | 21:55 |
| r00t_ninja | plasma-widget-networkmanagement | 21:56 |
| r00t_ninja | ^ | 21:56 |
| nub | does anyone have a program that controls barometric pressure? | 21:56 |
| Daskreech | nub: no Just hte beta of hte program that controls Global Warming | 21:56 |
| Daskreech | It overheats :-( | 21:57 |
| Thundercross | I'm also having problems with x.org | 21:57 |
| Thundercross | xorg | 21:57 |
| r00t_ninja | error? | 21:57 |
| Thundercross | Ever since I installed 9.10, it never really loads | 21:58 |
| nub | r00t-ninja, I am unable to install that program for some reason, the plasma-widget-networkmanagement | 21:58 |
| nub | how do you run and edit ebox? | 21:58 |
| r00t_ninja | error? | 21:58 |
| Daskreech | Thundercross: Where does it stop loading? | 21:58 |
| nub | could not find package | 21:58 |
| Daskreech | nub: How are you installig it? From the command line I assume? | 21:59 |
| r00t_ninja | try refreshing your package list | 21:59 |
| nub | yes | 21:59 |
| nub | is there a way to run networkmanagement without installing or adding the widget to the dashboard? | 21:59 |
| nub | I found it but I was trying to install it using apt-get :P | 22:00 |
| r00t_ninja | you dont need to , it will show in your system trat | 22:00 |
| r00t_ninja | you dont need to , it will show in your system tray | 22:00 |
| r00t_ninja | when you log out and then back in | 22:00 |
| Daskreech | nub: I guess you haven't learnt the awesome of tab ? | 22:00 |
| nub | ^peter^: | 22:00 |
| nub | _abbenormal: | 22:00 |
| nub | nope lol | 22:01 |
| cpk1 | is it absolutely necessary to use pulse audio to get sound from more than one source? I seem to have phonon installed but cant figure out what the problem is | 22:01 |
| nub | you have to tab all the way down? | 22:01 |
| Daskreech | nub: type sud<tab>apt-g<tab>in<tab>plasma-w<tab>net<tab> | 22:02 |
| Daskreech | You don't have to | 22:02 |
| Daskreech | Tab autocompletes what you are typing | 22:02 |
| Daskreech | If it doens't then press it again and it will show you the possible values that are available | 22:02 |
| r00t_ninja | cpk1: i have pulseaudio however i dont use it as my default mixer device and i have multiple sound sources | 22:02 |
| nub | what is the default folder for apache? | 22:03 |
| nub | default web folder I mean | 22:03 |
| Daskreech | nub: /var/www | 22:03 |
| r00t_ninja | /var/www | 22:03 |
| hellhound_ | can anyone tell me why when I am connect via wifi, I am not able to view flash videos? I go to websites and I can browse my local network drives, but for some reason I am not able to view internet flash video on youtube or hulu. i can view these video when connected view wired connection though | 22:03 |
| nub | ahh thank you | 22:03 |
| Daskreech | hellhound_: which browser? | 22:03 |
| hellhound_ | chrome or firefox | 22:04 |
| r00t_ninja | sounds like some sort of qos | 22:04 |
| Daskreech | both don't work once you are on the Wifi? | 22:04 |
| Daskreech | which sites are you trying ? | 22:04 |
| hellhound_ | Daskreech: i am trying youtube and hulu. they will work if connected via cable | 22:05 |
| cpk1 | r00t_ninja: did you have to do anything to set it up? I never installed pusle and I dont think kubuntu comes with it but i do seem to have libpulse installed, and my system seems to try to use it, mplayer tells me "AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Internal error" | 22:07 |
| r00t_ninja | it came with my kubuntu install im fairly sure | 22:07 |
| Daskreech | hellhound_: You are on wifi now? | 22:10 |
| hellhound_ | Daskreech: yes .. i am talking to you on another computer right beside the one having issues | 22:11 |
| Daskreech | hellhound_: try http://blip.tv/file/2756992/ and tell me if it works | 22:11 |
| hellhound_ | Daskreech: k hold on | 22:14 |
| nub | r00t-ninja, it was actually kdenetwork-filesharing | 22:14 |
| nub | isn't qtparted a package? | 22:16 |
| nub | my computer did not find it | 22:16 |
| hellhound_ | Daskreech: ah hah rebooted and video is working on wireless now! | 22:18 |
| hellhound_ | Daskreech: nevermind stopped working again | 22:19 |
| Thundercross | Man, I had to go afk for a while, and I'm only gonna be on intermittently. | 22:23 |
| Daskreech | hellhound_: Stopped? as in it was loaded and stopped loading | 22:23 |
| Daskreech | Or the next page you went to didn't work? | 22:24 |
| Daskreech | Thundercross: ok | 22:24 |
| hellhound_ | Daskreech: it started playing the video and then stopped after about 10 seconds | 22:25 |
| Daskreech | hellhound_: what version of Flash? | 22:26 |
| hellhound_ | Daskreech: 10.0.32.18 | 22:27 |
| ddurham | I got hit with the wubi/grub2 bug where linux doesn't boot properly, boots to grub shell | 22:27 |
| ddurham | anyone familiar with this issue? | 22:27 |
| hellhound_ | Daskreech: if I exit out of the browser then open it again it will play videos for about 45 seconds then stop. It happens regardless of the video and regardless if on firefox or google chrome | 22:28 |
| ddurham | here's a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/484799 | 22:28 |
| ddurham | I'm looking for a better solution than me manually typing grub commands everytime I boot, update-grub didn't work | 22:28 |
| nub | is there an ftp server installed with ubuntu server | 22:30 |
| nub | if so how to I connect as well as specify a static ip on my local area network? | 22:31 |
| Daskreech | hellhound_: hrmm you did an upgrade or a clean install? | 22:31 |
| hellhound_ | Daskreech: clean install | 22:31 |
| Daskreech | hellhound_: try and purge flash and reinstall | 22:32 |
| hellhound_ | Daskreech: k hold on :) | 22:32 |
| phoenixz | Does KDE has some sort of built in support thing that lets me control the desktop of the KDE user? | 22:33 |
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| hellhound_ | Daskreech: samething happens | 22:36 |
| yoyo | !krfb | 22:38 |
| phoenixz | I want to connect to a remote computer using KRDC, but I want to connect over another port.. How do I do this? do I need to configure something on the recmote compouter? | 22:39 |
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| knue | hi there. is there a special channel for lucid lynx kubuntu? | 23:00 |
| JontheEchidna | #ubuntu+1 is used for that | 23:00 |
| knue | thx | 23:00 |
| JontheEchidna | np | 23:00 |
| Thundercross | Long story short, upgrading to Karmic broke my xorg. And I think it's because I had it replace my xorg.conf when I upgraded. | 23:01 |
| ikdizayn | hi | 23:29 |
| Thundercross | If I were to restate my problem, that would be spam. | 23:30 |
| Thundercross | I stated it half an hour ago, but I got no response. | 23:30 |
| NSsmiles | hi | 23:36 |
| bobaluey | does anyone else have a problem with slow networking speeds in Kubuntu? | 23:39 |
| luis_ | hello everyone good afternoon i need some help i tryed to conect to my msn accounts but pidgin wont connect few hours ago did but not now it says: OUR PROTOCOL IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE SERVER!!!, help pls | 23:45 |
| knue | bobaluey: Had problems with my provider dns. It was pretty slow | 23:48 |
| knue | i switched to an independet one. now network works like a charm again | 23:48 |
| knue | Thundercross: have you tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 23:51 |
| knue | then restart X | 23:52 |
| knue | luis_: Have you tried a different client? kopete for instance? | 23:53 |
| nicklas_ | what is wrong? | 23:53 |
| relic420 | hi i am currently in ubuntue, i installed kubuntu threw the apt and when i tried to boot into kde i got a error about low graphics mode, when i tried to make a new configure file, it wouldnt go past the second dialog so i crashed out of kde, how can i fix this so i can switch to kde from gnome? | 23:53 |
| relic420 | (sorry i was called afk earlier :( ) | 23:53 |
| luis_ | no | 23:53 |
| luis_ | lets see | 23:53 |
| luis_ | but my question is why did stop working it was fine couple hours ago | 23:54 |
| knue | relic420: if you get this screen something is wrong with X not with your DE | 23:54 |
| nicklas_ | luis_: well, any updates or changes? | 23:54 |
| luis_ | not at all | 23:54 |
| knue | are you still running gdm or do you use kdm? | 23:54 |
| relic420 | knue it boots kubuntu when i switch to kdm | 23:54 |
| relic420 | but first thing i get is the error low grapics mode | 23:55 |
| relic420 | with that (EE) thing | 23:55 |
| nicklas_ | things dont brake just like that, something must have changed, hmm | 23:55 |
| relic420 | (EE) Open /dev/fb0 no such file or directory | 23:55 |
| relic420 | when i try to do a reconfig it crashs to txt | 23:55 |
| knue | regardless of the login manager you can switch your session somewhere beside the login stuff. just press all buttons to find out | 23:55 |
| relic420 | i cant get kdm to work had to go back to gdm | 23:55 |
| knue | in kdm this is below the login stuff | 23:56 |
| knue | try | 23:56 |
| nicklas_ | relic420: you just installed kubuntu-desktop, nothing else done? any changes? | 23:56 |
| relic420 | nope | 23:56 |
| relic420 | i installed it switched to kdm rebooted and that happen | 23:56 |
| knue | how did you swithc to kdm? | 23:56 |
| nicklas_ | that is weird, people get errors for no apperant reason | 23:57 |
| relic420 | it auto poped up when in the instal | 23:57 |
| relic420 | to get back to gdm i typed | 23:57 |
| knue | try this one: | 23:57 |
| knue | sudo service kdm stop | 23:57 |
| knue | than restart gdm | 23:57 |
| knue | sudo service gdm start | 23:57 |
| knue | I'm not quite sure how the gnome thing is called | 23:57 |
| knue | i think it's called gdm | 23:58 |
| nicklas_ | ask in #ubuntu | 23:58 |
| knue | have a look into /etc/init.d | 23:58 |
| relic420 | kdm stop/waiting | 23:58 |
| relic420 | im in gdm | 23:58 |
| relic420 | i did pkgd-configure whatever and pulled up a screen to get gdm | 23:58 |
| relic420 | i googled that part :P | 23:58 |
| relic420 | im in gnome right now, i wanna use kde | 23:58 |
| knue | I also occasionally got the screen you mentioned in kdm | 23:59 |
| Thundercross | knue, I will try this. I'm not sure of the command to restarting x, though. | 23:59 |
| knue | just click on the first option and proceed | 23:59 |
| knue | this works for me | 23:59 |
| Thundercross | Okay. Thanks. | 23:59 |
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