[00:01] how do you capture the output of netcat to a text file tried nc -zw2 xxx.xx.xxx. | more >>some.txt ? I cant figure it out [00:30] is there any partition managerfor kde [00:38] !info partitionmanager | lordganesh [00:38] lordganesh: partitionmanager (source: partitionmanager): partition manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-0ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 726 kB, installed size 2848 kB [00:42] Dragnslcr: it doesn't show any devices mounted [00:49] kubuntu 9.10 doesn't have disk utility? [00:55] sure [00:56] sure? [00:56] >aplications>system>disk utility [01:06] how do I start the plasma-widget-daisy from this http://lechio.freehostia.com/daisy.html#mark1 [01:10] where does one find the MBR [01:10] !MBR [01:10] grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. [01:36] if there is an expirienced user that would be willing to answer some very silly questions? [01:36] if you say what they are, maybe :) [01:37] nanosnack: Best to just ask whichever question you have, someone who knows an answer will take it up [01:40] I was trying to install VLC, I looked at the Package Manager, I took a guess on which one to install, it seemed to do... something? needless to say, from a beginners perspective, nothing in linux is straightforward [01:40] so I just don't know what I'm doing [01:40] I look at tutorials and they don't bother to explain the very basics. and that's what I (and I'm guessing millions of people) need to know [01:40] when you can't just download a program, and you can't use what appears to be an "add program" function, what are you supposed to do? [01:40] this is what beginners normally ask? [01:41] nanosnack: The package manager is where you normally install programs, yes. Some programs do not have for instance a graphical component and so it may seem sometimes nothing was installed [01:41] the simplest way is just to install it through the package manager, which seems to be what you did. However, you may need to know the name of the program and type it into a terminal window to actually launch it. [01:41] There is a package called VLC [01:42] that is the one you want [01:42] ....am I alone? [01:45] alright, I searched for VLC on the search bar, and "run vlc" came up, so it's there [01:45] ur not alone [01:45] so why doesn't it have a nice little graphic with a spot in the multimedia section, eh? [01:45] it does [01:46] what's this "installing things in secret and then hiding it from me" business? [01:46] did you install the main package called vlc [01:46] It doesn't, you get a free beer if you can find it [01:46] it did for me [01:46] nanosnack: VLC itself is a command-line app [01:46] yup, it was called vlc and some gibberish [01:47] run the comand: sudo apt-get install vlc [01:47] to double check you installed it [01:48] nanosnack: there are two different methods of placing a shortcut icon on the menu.. kubuntu/ubuntu uses one method but some programs use a different method.. remember there are different repositories for the installlable programs.. "Main" is pretty polished.. "Universe" sometimes has these quirks.. also some programs install and place an icon but it won't show up until the next boot.. why .. I don't know. [01:49] nanosnack: To answer your PM'd message, my responses to you are in orange because your IRC client is highlighting then since I directed them towards you by using your nickname within the message [01:50] genii: thank you [01:50] is there some kind of desktop search widget that uses nepomunk and strigi? === david is now known as Guest7761 [01:51] r00t_ninja: it's very much installed. do I have to restart before it shows up? [01:51] is there a partitioning tool that comes installed in 9.10? [01:51] you might have to [01:52] however i remember it showing up right away when i installed [01:52] like gparted? [01:52] kaprted? [01:52] kparted? [01:52] nope [01:52] Likely qtparted [01:52] oooh [01:52] partitionmanager [01:53] where's that? === linux is now known as Bruno [01:53] search partitionmanager in kpackagekit [01:53] no qtparted === Bruno is now known as Guest22750 [01:53] Guest7761: what's wrong with gparted? [01:53] qtparted isnt in my repos [01:54] I can't install anything until I get some more hard drive space, I'm all full up [01:54] r00t_ninja: partitionmanager *is* parted (gparted, qtparted, kparted) unless the stock install in 9.10 has changed. [01:54] oh ok [01:54] Guest7761: use fdisk then [01:55] looks like parted will run [01:55] Scunizi: thanks! main and universe are repositories. repositories are servers with lots of packages on them somewhere in the world? [01:55] nanosnack: yes.. [01:55] !repositories [01:55] The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [01:56] are main and universe organizations or companies? or is this more conceptual? [01:56] nanviewosnack: The first link above which the bot provided has an over [01:56] nanosnack: conceptual only.. just a means of segregation.. and assigning responsibility for compilation of the programs for each ubuntu release. [01:57] bah touchpad [01:57] nanosnack: The first link above which the bot provided has an overview [01:58] nanosnack: there are the 'original main' repo's the remainder in the world are mirrors..there to assist and reduce the load.. [01:59] genii: thank you [02:01] scunizi: I see. are all the repo's available through the package loader? [02:02] nanosnack: they are.. but you can only have one repo listed and accessed at a time through the package manager.. [02:04] un the computer tab in the kickoff application laucher would it be possible to disable showing removable storage devices [02:04] ? [02:07] scuniz: what the rationale? [02:08] nanosnack: how do you mean? .. [02:08] nanosnack: one repo consists of "main" "universe" and what ever else you've listed yourself. [02:09] how can I rebuild my /var/lib/dpkg directory? [02:13] scunizi: I can understand why they are segregated by how much support or "open source" approval, but why can you only look through one at a time? [02:15] nanosnack: they are all the same.. just mirrors of the original.. so there's no differencee between them.. the point being to use the repo that is the closest or fasted to your location.. the package manager should be able to search out and list the best repo for you.. at lease ubuntu does/can.. I haven't tried it with kubuntu's package manager. [02:15] nanosnack_- KPackageKit will show packages from every repository you have enabled [02:16] scunizi: okay, when you said "one at a time" I took it to mean main, universe, restricted or multiverse [02:17] nanosnack: no.. those would all be one server location or repo.. however repo can also mean the main repo, universe repo etc.. but essentially the same server. [02:18] nanosnack: no.. those would all be one server location or repo.. however repo can also mean the main repo, universe repo etc.. but essentially the same server. === cab570 is now known as dolek [02:25] hola [02:26] alguien que hable español [02:26] ? [02:26] yo rodrigo [02:26] pero este no es lugar para hablar en español, visite #kubuntu-es [02:26] ok [02:34] how can i set the permissions to read of one group of users? chmod g+r and then? === reesefrancis_ is now known as reesefrancis [02:41] so, anyone gotten netflix to work in 9.1? [02:50] I recently switched from SUSE to Kubuntu 9.10 and I'm trying to sudo scripts from my ~/bin but get back "command not found." both echo $PATH and sudo echo $PATH return the same value which includes ~/bin and adding env_keep = $PATH doesn'[t seem to help. any suggestions? [02:55] jsatt: have they got execution permissions? [02:57] yes, 755. They also all run fine as my user [03:15] this is more skype related but , im getting this error: bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) i am fairly sure this is whats causeing my microphone to not work === m4v_ is now known as m4v === root is now known as Guest18139 [03:50] found a fix for my sudo issue. added "Defaults secure_path="/home/jsatt/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin"" to my /etc/sudoers. Maybe not the prefered method, but it does what i need. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [04:12] Hello - is Kubuntu good OS for older machine with 512 MB ram? [04:12] hi all [04:13] anyone having problems with amarok? [04:14] on mine there is not a device button under config, and the sidebar is missing === bruno is now known as Guest80094 [04:18] Hello - is Kubuntu good OS for older machine with 512 MB ram? [04:19] JerVA: probably not :-/ [04:19] JerVA: well unless you have discrete graphics [04:19] plasma's a bit graphics heavy [04:19] I have older Nvidia GeForce 5200 [04:19] does that still work with this newer Kubuntu? [04:19] give it a try then [04:20] no idea. i use intel. i just wouldnt suggest with intel on 512mb [04:20] Does wine works with Kubuntu as well? [04:20] yes [04:20] I have p4 [04:20] or is that too low ? [04:20] thats fine [04:20] 512 MB ram and P4 works just fine [04:20] technically i think 256mb are the min requirements [04:20] IC [04:21] depends how fast you expect it to be, i guess ;) [04:22] itll certainly run, how well you like it will depend on what you want to do with it and how fast you want to do it [04:22] Okay [04:22] KDe features does look nice [04:23] JerVA's computer sounds about like my mom's, on which Kubuntu is fairly snappy [04:23] ok [04:24] so it's not highly recommend to run kubuntu? [04:24] JerVA: et_ just said it works well [04:24] OH [04:24] oops - I thought snappy meaning not well [04:24] thanks :) [04:24] JerVA: snappy = fast [04:24] OIC [04:24] got it [04:25] sounds like it's better than GNOME ubuntu version [04:25] for me, 2GB of RAM wasnt enough to avoid lots of swapping, but i probably keep more apps open and running in the background all the time (plus...firefox...) and actually, with 1GB of RAM and 32bit (and no firefox), its just dandy, so maybe 64bit is just super-memory-hog [04:27] JerVA: Really depends on how you use the computer. [04:27] Yeah I agree. I'm really becoming the hardcore of the Ubuntu family fan. [04:33] default partition manager in ubuntu doesn't support ntfs is there any partition manager which support ntfs for kde [04:44] h === miguel is now known as Guest14480 === Guest14480 is now known as miguel_ === miguel_ is now known as Guest4611 [05:13] heyhey guys [05:13] fu me [05:13] exit [05:13] hihi [05:14] lol [05:14] biste ooch knülle? [05:17] how do I delete a file whose name starts with a '?'? === root is now known as Guest8610 [05:22] EDinNY: with the delete key? [05:23] huh? no delete key on command line [05:23] rm \?nameoffile [05:23] a script made a bunch of odd files. tried that [05:24] rm: cannot remove `?*': No such file or directory [05:24] EDinNY: Oh from the command line? [05:24] yep. cant do it from dolfin [05:24] can you delete the directory? [05:24] Really? [05:24] really [05:25] Hmm [05:25] ok rm \?filename [05:25] some of them have regular charactors in them. I execute pipe ls to grep to rm [05:26] rm \?filename does not work. tried that [05:26] Works here what does it do for you? [05:26] is it a regular file? [05:26] rm: cannot remove `?*': No such file or directory [05:26] yes [05:27] are you trying to delete many files with the * character? [05:27] did you remove \?filename or \?* ? [05:27] -rw-r--r-- 1 ed ed 95 2009-12-06 21:54 {#???????? [05:27] That doesn't start with ? [05:27] most of them do [05:27] that starts with { [05:27] no [05:27] using wildcard because none of the charactors are letters or numbers [05:28] Can you give me an example of one that starts with ? [05:28] ???j?p?ļI?ea?V??? [05:28] ??c!? [05:28] ????j?p?ļI?ea?V??? [05:28] do they all have ?? [05:28] yep [05:28] or the ones I want to del do [05:29] That would be the problem [05:29] bash reads the line twice and then tries to replcace the second ? with a char which o course doesn't exist [05:30] what happens if you try just one: rm \?\?c\!\? [05:30] I could walk you through this but #bash will be more informative if a lot harsher than I will [05:30] rm `ls |grep j*p |grep V |grep -v SA' <-- got rid of one of them [05:30] et_: He can do them one by one easy just time consuming [05:30] assuming that EDinNY is a him :) [05:31] yep [05:32] What you need is a literal expansion [05:32] is this in some sub directory ? [05:33] tried putting it in single quotes too [05:33] sub dir [05:33] single quotes won't help unless you do it post expansion [05:33] are there files that you want in the sub dir ? [05:33] yes. I will figure it out [05:33] thanks [05:34] well if you want ot know how to delete the files ask in #bash [05:34] good idea! [05:34] thanks [05:34] if you just want to solve the problem I have a negative way of approaching it [05:35] can do it with greps [05:35] :-) [05:35] Do the files that you want start with a reasonable character? [05:36] yes [05:36] ah, great idea [05:36] how do I grep -v for letters? [05:36] grep -v [A-Za-z]* [05:37] or if you like ls [^0-9A-Za-z]* [05:37] should list out files that start with funky chars [05:38] If those are the files that you want to get rid of just swap ls with rm [05:38] rm 'ˢI{' worked [05:39] doesn't that leave you with ?? files? [05:48] let's say i install from a mini iso... i install the base system and then reboot to the terminal... i want to get a very minimal kde4 environment up and running... so will aptitude install kdebase do the trick? or do i need to install an x server as well? [05:50] I don't think anything graphical will work without X === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [05:56] i guess my question was: will installing kdebase also install the x server as a dependency? [05:57] It most likely will [06:01] hai [06:01] what is this softwer exactly???????/ [06:02] nomopofomo: 'aptitude -D show kdebase' should show you [06:07] heeeeeeeeee [06:07] nomopofomo: It will [06:07] Hi esteban [06:07] wass up? [06:07] :-) [06:08] hi [06:08] Hi [06:08] hi [06:08] This is not a genuine Ubuntu package: kdelibs-bin [06:08] please tell how to install genuine package? [06:09] rizvan: What do you mean ? [06:09] Darkwing-Netbook: Whooot [06:09] i'm trying to report a bug for konsole [06:09] i have added some repos [06:09] to sources.list [06:09] ok [06:10] my sources.list file -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/336331/ [06:10] and you want to know where kdelibs-bin came from? [06:10] yes [06:10] and to install official packages only [06:11] how do you define "official"? [06:11] well if you want official packages only they easiest way is to comment out the ppa lines [06:11] provided from ubuntu repos [06:11] ok [06:11] if you want to know where kdelibs-bin came from then type apt-cache policy kdelibs-bin in konsole [06:12] The version table will tell you where you are getting it from [06:12] sure [06:12] here's the output -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/336332/ [06:13] Seeing as you have PPAs enabled it's likely coming from there [06:13] What's up DasKreech [06:13] should i just comment all ppas [06:13] ? [06:13] Darkwing-Netbook: plasma-netbook works? [06:13] rizvan: Depends what are you trying to do? [06:13] ok, many thanks :) [06:14] You have KDE 4.3.4 currently are you trying to go back to KDE 4.3.2 ? [06:14] nope, i don't want to [06:14] As a tech preview it runs well... I'm test running Lucid right now... has a few problems [06:14] but i want to report indic unicode font rendering bug in konsole [06:15] rizvan: ok the package that you have now was released by kubuntu devs so you can use it as is [06:15] Submit your bug report as normal [06:15] the bug report dialog "collecting problem information" - is complaining [06:16] "This is not a genuine Ubuntu package" [06:16] ok, i'll downgrade to 4.3.2 then report the bug and do the upgrade again [06:18] Thanks DasKreech :-) [06:18] rizvan: HOld on let me see if i can find a resolution to that [06:20] okay [06:25] or report to KDE instead.. [06:26] rizvan: You are reporting it Launchpad? [06:26] TeLLuS: Yeah I was just getting to that :) [06:28] i want to report to kde bugs, from the "Help->report bug" [06:28] rizvan: you can do that. You can also report directly at bugs.kde.org [06:28] ok, i'll report directly there [06:29] solves the issue ;-) [06:29] rizvan: Thanks for taking the time out to report the bug :) [06:29] that's at least i can do as a good opensource user! [06:30] :-) [06:30] bye, see you === nathan is now known as Guest55343 [06:50] I've got kubuntu 9.04 and can't seem to get sound from more than one source at once, whenever I want a new program to use sound I have to reload alsa [06:50] not sure what the issue is [06:52] anyone has any suggestions feel free to shout them out [07:05] cpk1: this may help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012 [07:07] et_: thanks, so I guess I have to use pulse then? I was hoping to avoid it =P [07:08] I think I remember having a problem like yours and pulseaudio solved it for me. [07:09] yeah it doesnt look like I have a sound server [07:10] Any one can help me with some wireless configuration and injection? === kb is now known as Guest23986 === aaron__ is now known as da2f [07:32] a2f [07:33] eeeee === da2f is now known as a2f [07:40] guys protest against satanic edition ubuntu [07:41] What was that about? [07:50] I have LAMP on an Ubuntu desktop. Is it terribly difficult to enable php to send out an email programatically? [07:51] WilliamBuell: /join ##php [07:52] install sendmail , set sendmail_path in your php.ini and you should be done [07:52] thanks r00t_ninja [07:53] thanks DasKreech [07:54] hi bill [07:54] hi ninja [07:56] ehy protest against satanic ubuntu edition? [07:56] satanism is a religion too, dont? [07:57] zhanes: what? [07:57] why i do protest counter satanism? [07:58] satanism is a religion too [07:58] * DasKreech has no idea but that has nothing to do with this channel [07:58] they given them asses and smoke marijuana [07:58] but homophoby is crime [07:59] so, freedom of religion, freddom of sexuality, freedom of speech [07:59] preconcept is a bad idea [08:00] !ot [08:00] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [08:00] zhanes: If you have a question about Kubuntu you can ask it otherwise take the conversation elsewhere [08:00] ubottu called us attemption [08:00] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [08:01] DasKreech, forgive me [08:02] I just give my opinion about ubuntu distributions [08:02] satanists can use ubunu too, dont? [08:02] zhanes: youve been asked, please keep ontopic for this channel [08:02] alright [08:03] Yes so can people wearing green shirts, Accountants, the greeks and people with red hair [08:03] None of that has anything to do with this channel [08:03] sure DasKreech [08:03] offcourse [08:03] you can join #kubuntu-offtopic and talk about it as much as you like [08:04] thx [08:07] after running aptitude build-dep i'm seeing a bunch of packages with {a} next to their names. what does that mean? [08:09] <||arifaX> Hi I am on 9.10 I try a cisco vpn via the knetwork-manager vpnc and the plugin is installed. from command line works. It seems nm does not even try to start the connection. can someone help me a bit? [08:10] have you tried to use pppoeconf first? [08:11] ||arifaX: hmm i dont kow knetwork-manager so far havent used it, but maybe just try another one as knetwork-manager isnt the bugfree one :) [08:11] and you will ned choose your kubuntu distribution in wizzard [08:12] choose manual configuration, them kubuntu karmic 9.10 [08:12] them detect devices [08:13] zhanes: commandline it works o.o [08:13] so the config is quite ok [08:13] works too, ppoeconf autodetec your device [08:13] pppoeconf [08:13] sorry [08:14] but try it: [08:14] choose manual configuration, them kubuntu karmic 9.10 [08:14] are you setting the connection as auto connect? [08:14] them detect devices [08:15] i would just suggest wicd cause knetworkmanager isnt the best in the wild [08:15] right click on knetwork-manager them when appears options choose manual settings [08:16] them when apperar wizard dialog, choose kubuntu karmic 9.10 [08:16] them when appears the principal box, choose autodetec [08:17] so them you can configure all options in your device [08:18] understood? [08:23] hello [08:23] hi [08:24] <||arifaX> ghostcube: I used wicd for a long time, but man it can't be possible that something that is implemented does not work [08:24] ||arifaX: i know but wicd is working [08:24] so i havent tried knetwork-manager again [08:25] <||arifaX> zhanes: cannot follow you [08:26] ghostcube, what you wish to do? [08:26] hi there, got a strange printer problem. I setup a network printer and the test pages was printed ok. It also appears in the cups web interface (localhost:631). However a document that I try to print from Okular does not get printed and does not appear in the cups webinterface. Any suggestions? [08:26] follow me for where? [08:26] <||arifaX> zhanes: your knetork-manager options manual settings stuff [08:27] why not? to me works fine [08:27] i'm using only it [08:28] ghostcube, have you tried my "stuff"? [08:29] <||arifaX> zhanes: look that happens when I click my configured vpn connection (vpnc) http://paste.ubuntu.com/336375/ [08:29] <||arifaX> zhanes: this is from syslog [08:31] well in our case, do ou really need knetwork-config? [08:31] well in your case, do you really need knetwork-manager? [08:32] <||arifaX> zhanes: I could do it by hand yes and it works (tested) but you understand I am a fan of linux and I want to bring it also to people that are no computerfreaks and therefore stuff like this needs to work out of the box. [08:32] (sorry for errors, i'm needing to sleep [08:32] <||arifaX> Why do we have the possiblity to add a vpn and a vpnc plugin if it does not work the way it should? [08:34] i'm confused with your questions [08:35] r))t_ninja, do you know about it? [08:35] r00t_ninja, do you know about it? [08:36] will this support channel work as long as i have kde (PClinuxOS)...or do i need to get kubuntu [08:36] balsaq: Ask your question and we will see [08:37] <||arifaX> zhanes: let me explain. I did a sudo apt-get install network-manager-vpnc vpnc and then configured a vpn connection. It does not even popout anything. when I go to the commandline as root and do the vpn manually with exactly the same parameters I am connected - frankly I don't like that [08:37] but if works, whats the matter? [08:38] can kubuntu do ipod [08:38] Yes if you have the new amarok or banshee [08:38] or gpodder of course [08:39] ok because i just installed ubuntu on my firends computer and they say she cant do it [08:39] so i may put her in kubuntu [08:39] well if your problem is popup wizzard [08:39] here have [08:39] and discover the devices automatically [08:39] balsaq: install banshee [08:39] It can do iPod [08:39] hmmtold her that [08:40] basaq, i have ipod and connect normally [08:40] alredy told her that Daskreech...she still is struggling [08:40] cool ill switch her to kubuntu [08:40] are you gonna be here tommorowzhanes Daskreech [08:40] i tranfer the mp3 and the awm to device in my folders and runs ok [08:41] the ipod is recognized as a HD removable [08:41] she i total newbie [08:41] 1st day [08:41] Probably [08:41] the only problem is the videos, the videos are in commercial extensions only [08:41] her name i sweet_sarah_jane [08:42] ill tell her to look you up zhanes and daskreech [08:42] awm is commercial and you will need to install commercial codecs to mencoder [08:42] She can just asl [08:42] Hmm [08:42] !ipod [08:42] For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod [08:42] Ha [08:42] DasKreech: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:42] 10 dollars says that's not up to date :-) [08:42] she is soo new its all tough right now === kde-devel is now known as acr [08:43] We'll be nice to her [08:43] she wants messenger and ipod...or maybe it was itunes,,,,thats it [08:43] well give it a shot [08:43] Of course she wants iTunes [08:44] first convert videos to your ipod dimensions 240x120 for example them to you codec, this program is good to convert videos --> konverter-0.93 [08:44] amsn or kmess for MSN [08:44]