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RAOFHi.  I'm trying to see how well nouveau works against the current drm in lucid's kernel; apparently it should (probably) work.03:49
RAOFThis means I need to work out how to regenerate the configs for the kernel build; the wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelMaintenance?highlight=(config)|(kernel)|(edit) seems to be out of date.03:50
RAOFAha.  You just need to generate debian/control first.  Right.04:01
akgranerRAOF, just wait til later in the week, when the kernel team produces crack of the day nouveau builds...  It won't build natively in Lucid it requires the tip of drm from upstream05:23
RAOFakgraner: Does it actually require the tip of drm, or can it work against the drm as found in Lucid?  Because it _builds_ fine against Lucid's drm, and then my /home gets full :(05:32
RAOFakgraner: And darktama (nouveau dev, and fedora maintainer) suggested that it should work against 2.6.32's drm.05:32
cwillubug 38080709:10
ubot3Malone bug 380807 in linux "[karmic, intel] Laptop locks up moments after resuming from suspend" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38080709:10
apwcwillu, thats most bizarre.  why are you the only one who sees this.  i suspend machines with that confiurations 10's or more of times a week without issue09:15
cwilluwhich configuration?  I'm presuming you don't have the exact hardware :)09:16
cwilluthe suspicion before was that there was something odd in the bios/whatever;  2.6.30 brought in suspend changes that were (obviously? maybe not...) thought to be responsible09:17
cwillubut my git bisect _did_ come back to the filesystem code, and the way that it crashed would seem to match that.09:18
cwilluI did a install to a fresh 4gb partition with an ext4 root, and still got the same crashing09:18
cwilluso it seems unlikely to just be some lingering metadata breaking stuff09:19
cwilluor corrupted whatever09:19
cwilluI'm open to suggestions for the next thing to try :p09:19
apwhrm ... i worry that btrfs is just lucky that its not affected.  which commit did your bisect finger09:22
cwillua moment, haven't looked at it in a while09:23
cwillusigh, can't find it.  I'll run the bisect again after work tomorrow :(09:27
cwillujust going through my irc logs, I'm pretty sure I mentioned it in here09:40
amitkcwillu: remember to add that info to the launchpad bug next time, so you don't have to suffer the bisect again :)09:41
cwilluI think I did, I just didn't add enough context to prove its the bisect I think it is :p09:43
cwilluI had two bugs crop up at the same time, an intel crasher, and this longer-acting one09:43
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slytherinis there any ETA on when 2.6.31.6 will make into karmic-proposed?14:13
mdzI read about the low latency cfq scheduler in 2.6.32 on kernelnewbies: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_32#head-e07f19bb79beab04cb9e68b942c9041b490b71db14:21
mdzwe use cfq in -generic, and deadline in -server, right?14:21
rtgmdz, yes, that is correct14:23
mdzrtg: thanks14:24
rtgmdz, I read the same article. it appears there have been some improvements which we need to explore.14:25
mdzrtg: sounds like good stuff for the desktop, but something we might want to opt out of on the server, so I wanted to confirm it didn't affect us(server)14:25
mdzI like the rename of KSM to a somewhat less confusing name14:26
rtgmdz, right, we haven't changed the I/O scheduler settings from Karmic.14:26
rtgmdz, I think KSM requires some userspace support to enable. dunno if the server team has that on its radar14:29
mdzrtg: does it? I thought it just worked.  if it requires some userspace support, I'd like to hear about it because we definitely want that functionality14:31
rtgmdz, there is some sysfs twiddling that needs to happen IIRC. I'll get smart about it and annoy kirkland with the details.14:32
mdzrtg: thanks. maybe you or jjohansen could bring the details to the server meeting on Wednesday14:33
rtgmdz, can do14:33
rtgmdz, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2009-December/007969.html (in case you're not subscribed)15:14
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dandelweird, i can't seem to disable the radeon module by blacklisting it 0o'16:00
apwKeybuk, u have mentioned a patch for listing modules which are builtin ... did that hit mainline, or do you still want it?16:44
Keybukit hasn't hit mainline yet16:45
Keybukbut we want it16:45
* Keybuk makes LCARS "working" noises16:47
Keybukmmarek@suse.cz is the author16:48
Keybukjust trying to find his latest patch16:48
apwKeybuk, thanks16:48
Keybuklooks like it's in -mm16:49
Keybuk-next I mean obviously16:50
CarlFKwhat package should I bug this against?   [ 5355.182137] This should not happen.!! Data will be lost ... Call Trace: ext4_da_writepages+0x4cc/0x500  http://paste.ubuntu.com/336658/16:51
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apwlinux (the kernel)16:52
Keybukapw: basically this patch is in that strange limbo where it's scheduled for the .33 merge window16:52
Keybukso it means I CANNOT FIND IT! :D16:52
apwmost typical.  well i guess it'll be in linus soon enough then then i can pick it from there16:53
Keybukaccording to akpm, these are the patch names:16:55
Keybukkbuild-generate-modulesbuiltin.patch16:55
Keybukkbuild-rebuild-fix-for-makefilemodbuiltin.patch16:55
Keybukkbuild-generate-modulesbuiltin-fix-2.patch16:55
Keybukkbuild-generate-modulesbuiltin-fix-2-checkpatch-fixes.patch16:55
KeybukI don't know where he puts those though16:55
Keybukthey're in his queue16:55
Keybukhttp://userweb.kernel.org/~akpm/mmotm/broken-out/16:56
Keybukaha16:56
Keybukthey're all in there16:57
mdzrtg: thanks17:00
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Keybukapw: don't suppose you could build me a kernel with the current set of "performance" patches applied17:43
KeybukSurbhi's populate_rootfs() patch obviously, also whatever you have for the isapnp stuff and the EDID cacheing for i91517:43
Keybuk(and anything else you're tracking)17:43
apwKeybuk, sure 17:44
drpooHere is how ubuntu cancer cells are destoryed17:45
drpoohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q4JrmE50SU17:45
Keybukapw: just interested what a difference it'll make :p17:45
drpoothe small blue things are cytotoxic t cells17:46
apwKeybuk, and there i was wanting to sneak it up on you straight after a-117:47
drpoohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q4JrmE50SU17:47
drpoothe immune system seems to over power linux cancer cells.17:47
CarlFKwho has the power to edit the text on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+filebug18:33
CarlFKsays "Please report a bug about the kernel using the following command in a terminal:  ubuntu-bug -p linux"18:33
CarlFKwhich throws "Warning: The options -p/-P are deprecated, please do not use them.  See /usr/bin/ubuntu-bug --help"18:34
rtgogasawara, ^^ Isn't it just 'ubuntu-bug linux' ?18:39
ogasawarartg, CarlFK:  yah, just use 'ubuntu-bug linux' instead18:39
ogasawaraCarlFK: I'll follow up and see about getting the +filebug text updated18:40
CarlFKogasawara: good - was trying to figure out how to file a bug report against the bug report instructions :)18:41
ogasawaraCarlFK: so it'll get updated after Lucid releases since Hardy still requires the -p option18:44
CarlFKogasawara: might want to add a note about that - I am on karmic, did ubuntu-bug linux, reviewed possible hits, got to that page, filled out report, scrolled down, saw the "use -p" and was grumpy that I needed to start over.  18:46
CarlFKout of lazyness I didn't close the browser, so when I got the "dont use -p" I could just go back and finish up18:46
Keybukapw: I've just noticed a major thinko with our kernel config ;)21:53
Keybuk# CONFIG_DEVTMPFS is not set21:53
* Keybuk has been assuming that was =y :p21:53
MTecknologyCan anyone help me figure out how to fix this bug? 49271922:15
MTecknologybug 492719 *22:16
ubot3Malone bug 492719 in linux "Function keys not detected on Vaio VGN-FZ240E" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49271922:16
RAOFGah.  The kernel-team meeting is at 4am for me.23:30
dtchenheh, I hardly ever make them unless I take a vacation day23:31
dtchensame with Development Membership Board, etc.23:31
HardDriveTAKE PUBLIC TRANSIT IT IS GREENER!23:39
dtchenRAOF: which hardware do you have that's driven by nouveau?23:53
dtchenlast I tried it, this nVidia Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2) had really horrid stability23:53
RAOFdtchen: I've got a 7600go and a 6600gt; they're both nv4x chips, and neither is integrated (which is what yours is?).23:56
dtchencorrect23:57
RAOFWhen did you last try nouveau?23:57
dtchenkarmic23:57
dtchenerr, maybe one month ago23:57
RAOFThe packages from karmic universe?23:57
dtchenyes23:58
RAOFThey're moderately old; it's entirely possible that stability will have improved for you.23:59
dtchencertainly.23:59
RAOFWhat stability problems were you seeing?23:59
dtchenI don't really relish hacking on sound/pci/hda/* via ssh, however23:59

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