[00:51] <cprofitt> pleia2: are we on for tonight at 9pm EST?
[00:52] <FFEMTcJ> cprofitt: yes
[01:32] <nigel_nb> meeting in t - 30?
[01:40] <FFEMTcJ> yup
[01:40] <nigel_nb> i was afraid I'd miss it
[01:40] <nigel_nb> my router's been acting up
[01:40] <nigel_nb> got kicked out of my network for 2 hours, for no reason
[01:40] <FFEMTcJ> lol
[01:41] <FFEMTcJ> I feel like sh... crap
[01:41] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: stuck at work?
[01:41] <FFEMTcJ> yup.. and sick now
[01:41] <FFEMTcJ> still have 35 hours left...
[01:41] <nigel_nb> 35 hours?
[01:41] <nigel_nb> wat??
[01:42] <FFEMTcJ> 13 down
[01:42] <nigel_nb> u have to work for 35 hours???
[01:42] <FFEMTcJ> 35 more hours
[01:43] <FFEMTcJ> all day today, all day tomorrow, off tues, all day wed, off thurs fri, all day sat sun of mon/tues
[01:44] <nigel_nb> on-call or in office?
[01:44] <FFEMTcJ> in
[01:44] <nigel_nb> okay thats bad
[01:44] <nigel_nb> really bad
[01:45] <FFEMTcJ> normally i work 24  hours on 48 off, but we can "trade days" with people sometimes, so im workin 48 today/tomorrow and 48 sat/sun cause i got two days off from other people workin for me
[01:45] <nigel_nb> what do u work as, if I may take the freedom to ask
[01:45] <FFEMTcJ> ff = fire fighter emt = emt, allthought now a paramedic
[01:46] <FFEMTcJ> i wish i could take some nyquil
[01:46] <nigel_nb> oh, that way
[01:47] <nigel_nb> at least you'll be sitting around doing noting for some time
[01:47] <FFEMTcJ> in theory
[01:47] <FFEMTcJ> i think we have run 6 calls so far
[01:47] <nigel_nb> oh oh
[01:48] <nigel_nb> but then every job has its own difficulties
[01:48] <nigel_nb> i gotta work only 8 hours, but I gotta be banging on my keyboard the whole time
[01:48] <FFEMTcJ> i just hope i can get some sleep  tonight
[01:48] <nigel_nb> there's this thing
[01:48] <nigel_nb> u probably know
[01:48] <FFEMTcJ> and see, i spend more than 8 hours (as long as i can) on the keyboard at work
[01:49] <nigel_nb> the adrenaline rush that you get when you save someone or help someon
[01:49] <nigel_nb> that ought to keep you awake
[01:49] <FFEMTcJ> i love the rush.. but we run so much b.s. that doesnt get the rush
[01:49] <FFEMTcJ> id do 48 hours without sleep as long as im running real calls
[01:49] <FFEMTcJ> stubbed toes, or calling me because you cant sleep, when i was sleeping.. not so much
[01:50] <nigel_nb> oops
[01:50] <nigel_nb> u actually get those "calling me because I cant sleep" calls?
[01:50] <nigel_nb> isnt it illegal?
[01:50] <FFEMTcJ> nope
[01:50] <FFEMTcJ> you call we hall
[01:50] <nigel_nb> probably it might fall into suicidal ideation category
[01:50] <FFEMTcJ> thats the beauty of our current *free* heathcare system
[01:51] <nigel_nb> free healthcare?
[01:51] <FFEMTcJ> yup..
[01:51] <nigel_nb> wait a min, you're not in US?
[01:51] <FFEMTcJ> in us
[01:51] <nigel_nb> US and free healthcare?
[01:51] <FFEMTcJ> a hospital cannot turn a pt away
[01:51] <nigel_nb> okay, I'm properly shocked
[01:51] <nigel_nb> ah, that way
[01:51] <FFEMTcJ> because they recieve federal money
[01:52] <FFEMTcJ> people go there to get refills on their Rx, and call us to get them there
[01:53] <nigel_nb> paramedics?
[01:53] <FFEMTcJ> uh huh
[01:53] <nigel_nb> to get people to hospital to refill medications?
[01:53] <FFEMTcJ> uh huh
[01:53] <FFEMTcJ> you call, we haul
[01:53] <nigel_nb> I can't find an appropriate word that wouldn't be against the CoC :P
[01:53] <FFEMTcJ> speaking of which.. i gota a call.. bbl
[01:54]  * pleia2 comes home with some takeout foods
[01:54] <nigel_nb> wb pleia2
[01:54] <pleia2> thanks
[01:54] <nigel_nb> its 7:25
[01:54] <nigel_nb> 5 mins to go
[01:55] <nigel_nb> I mean 0155 UTC
[01:55] <pleia2> yep
[01:59] <nigel_nb> any news of martin?
[01:59] <pleia2> nope
[01:59] <pleia2> last I knew he was quite ill :(
[01:59] <nigel_nb> oh :(
[01:59] <nigel_nb> looks like all of us are taking turns
[01:59] <pleia2> yep
[01:59] <nigel_nb> I guess I led the way :P
[02:00] <pleia2> yeah thanks :)
[02:00] <pleia2> ok, #ubuntu-meeting
[02:00] <pleia2> cprofitt: you joining us?
[02:02] <pleia2> no vantrax either :(
[02:03] <nigel_nb> paultag: around?
[02:03] <nigel_nb> BiosElement: meeting?
[02:05] <FFEMTcJ> back
[02:05] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: #ubuntu-meeting
[02:05] <nigel_nb> we've started
[02:05] <FFEMTcJ> yup
[02:33] <cprofitt> hey guys...
[02:33] <nigel_nb> yes
[02:33] <cprofitt> I have some questions about Bzr when you have a chance
[02:33] <nigel_nb> cprofitt: fire away, I'm not an expert, but since I'm writing the lesson, I have a good idea
[02:35] <cprofitt> will there be one Bzr entry for each class or one Bzr entry for our entire project?
[02:35] <nigel_nb> well, each class will have one entry
[02:36] <nigel_nb> I suspect it will get merged as we move on
[02:36] <cprofitt> ok...
[02:36] <cprofitt> I really have not worked with Bzr...
[02:36] <cprofitt> so just kind of curious
[02:36] <nigel_nb> I started learning with the lesson
[02:37] <nigel_nb> its easy
[02:37] <nigel_nb> I didn't know anything till I started the lesson, martin gave me a lesson
[02:37] <cprofitt> with the lesson?
[02:38] <nigel_nb> i mean on IRC
[02:38] <cprofitt> ah...
[02:38] <nigel_nb> a session, martin, BiosElement_, and mhall119 pitched in to help
[02:38] <cprofitt> we need to develop a 'lesson' that is in writing -- Moodle or otherwise for the future.
[02:38] <nigel_nb> I'm doing the introduction to bzr course
[02:38] <nigel_nb> almost done
[02:39] <nigel_nb> once I'm done, we can work together to get it too moodle
[02:39] <nigel_nb> I want to learn moodle too
[02:39] <cprofitt> nigel_nb: I can help with Moodle, but I want to develop a course
[02:39] <nigel_nb> on asciidoc?
[02:39] <cprofitt> I walked pleia2 and Martin through Moodle, but I do not think it was sufficient to really help
[02:40] <FFEMTcJ> just got another instructor
[02:40] <nigel_nb> oh, you want a lesson completed
[02:40] <pleia2> I think having content is vital at this point
[02:40] <cprofitt> nice
[02:40] <pleia2> without actually doing it, it's tricky to learn for me
[02:40] <nigel_nb> so that we can actually convert to moodle and everyone gets the idea?
[02:40] <pleia2> nigel_nb: yeah, that's what I need :)
[02:40] <cprofitt> yeah...
[02:40] <nigel_nb> how long are you both gonna be up?
[02:40] <cprofitt> and I hope to take a few of the courses and do that... and really develop a process
[02:40] <cprofitt> I will be on for another hour or two
[02:41] <cprofitt> I may not be glued to irssi though
[02:41] <nigel_nb> because I have only some 3 sections to complete
[02:41] <nigel_nb> I can finish it fast
[02:41] <nigel_nb> I just need someone here so that I can ask doubts
[02:41] <cprofitt> nigel_nb: I will not have the time to convert it -- so do not rush
[02:41] <cprofitt> but when you get it done... walk me through what you have and then I can start converting to Moodle
[02:41] <nigel_nb> cprofitt: before you convert, it needs to be reviewed
[02:42] <cprofitt> nigel_nb: I can always reconvert...
[02:42] <cprofitt> it would be good, unapproved or not, to do a dry run
[02:42] <nigel_nb> good point, to flush out the processes
[02:43] <nigel_nb> pleia2: I spoke with nhandler__ about the topic
[02:44] <nigel_nb> he says it could be done, but he'll check with the board and get back
[02:45] <pleia2> nigel_nb: ok thanks :)
[02:45] <nigel_nb> who's indigo by the way?
[02:45] <pleia2> cprofitt
[02:46] <nigel_nb> okay, thats a confusing ID
[02:46] <pleia2> confused me for a while too, he doesn't sign his emails or put his name in the emails *cough* ;)
[02:46] <cprofitt> indigo is a left over from my days of working with the secret service on a case
[02:46] <cprofitt> I obsfucated my existence on the web
[02:46] <FFEMTcJ> i looked at cprofitt's wiki page too
[02:46]  * nigel_nb bows
[02:47] <cprofitt> I thik I am singing my name now pleia2
[02:47] <nigel_nb> yea, you did that on the last mail, which I replied
[02:47] <nigel_nb> I did wonder who it was
[02:48] <nigel_nb> no where else though
[02:48] <nigel_nb> oh and pleia2, gonna be around?
[02:48] <pleia2> tonight?
[02:48] <nigel_nb> yea
[02:49] <pleia2> doubtful, exhaustion is taking over again
[02:49]  * FFEMTcJ is thinking about trying to pass out
[02:49] <nigel_nb> I need a quick update of what went wrong
[02:49] <nigel_nb> when u used the scripts that is
[02:50] <pleia2> nigel_nb: not "the scripts" just asciidoc filename.txt on some
[02:51] <pleia2> so you might want to run through and error check them all
[02:51] <nigel_nb> I did try that some time back and it did work
[02:51] <nigel_nb> must be something silly
[02:52] <nigel_nb> lemme check and get back to you pleia2
[02:53] <nigel_nb> pleia2: hahaha
[02:53] <nigel_nb> spelling mistake in the template
[02:53] <pleia2> ah :)
[02:53] <pleia2> that'll do it
[02:54] <FFEMTcJ> oops
[02:54]  * pleia2 seeks rest now
[02:55]  * nigel_nb grants
[02:55] <nigel_nb> :P
[02:55] <pleia2> :)
[02:56]  * nigel_nb has only 2 more sections to go
[14:22] <nigel_nb> pleia2: if didn't see it yet, 2 guys from Indian loco have agreed to take classes :)
[14:23] <pleia2> nigel_nb: I saw, that's great :)
[14:23] <nigel_nb> :)
[14:25] <nigel_nb> oh, by the way, I tried converted the asciidoc, looks like I need bioselement's help here
[14:25] <nigel_nb> its getting messed up, the width is not being controlled and "some" error
[14:29] <pleia2> I think you need to cut off your line width at 80 characters
[14:30] <pleia2> in the checkins it looks like it wasn't cut off at all
[14:39] <nigel_nb> It should be automatic
[14:39] <nigel_nb> if its manual, doesnt make sense, there should be a command that I could add
[15:08] <pleia2> vim has commands for easy line wrapping
[15:11] <nigel_nb> no i mean, something with asciidoc, when converting
[17:59] <mhall119> has anyone seen the good doctor?
[18:02] <pleia2> looks like he's still on the other side of the pond
[18:02] <mhall119> ok, thanks
[18:03] <mhall119> I at least got a legitimate opportunity to use a Dr. Who line
[18:03] <pleia2> :)
[18:03] <pleia2> he's been ill too, so between traveling, family and being sick, I doubt we'll see him much until he returns
[18:04] <mhall119> ah, ok
[18:04] <mhall119> that's okay, I see that zareason is doing the case badges, so I don't have to mooch of the Mass. team
[18:04]  * pleia2 nods
[18:15] <FFEMTcJ> mhall119: whatcha gonna teach for user days? ;-)
[18:16] <mhall119> who what?
[18:16] <mhall119> what'd I just get volunteered for?
[18:16] <FFEMTcJ> Teaching a 1 hour course for user days...
[18:16] <FFEMTcJ> hey.. do yall need help with week?
[18:18] <mhall119> FFEMTcJ: we're good for now
[18:18] <mhall119> got all the new computers into the shop
[18:18] <FFEMTcJ> cool
[18:19]  * FFEMTcJ is sick anyway.. but if you needed help.. i would've
[18:19] <mhall119> we're going to have an install-fest sometime soonish though to get Ubuntu on all of them
[18:19] <mhall119> I know
[18:19] <FFEMTcJ> sweet
[18:19] <FFEMTcJ> def want to be there
[18:19] <mhall119> yeah, there will be food again
[18:19] <FFEMTcJ> i really wish i wasnt stuck at work as bad as im feeling..
[18:19] <FFEMTcJ> plain ubuntu or?
[18:19] <mhall119> FFEMTcJ: it's no problem, my parents actually came over and helped me, it wasn't bad
[18:19] <FFEMTcJ> cool
[18:20] <mhall119> FFEMTcJ: stock Ubuntu on these, they're going to high school seniors who are facing entering college without a computer
[18:20] <FFEMTcJ> gotcha
[18:20] <FFEMTcJ> any thought on when?
[18:21] <FFEMTcJ> (this year/next year)
[18:21] <mhall119> not yet
[18:21] <mhall119> we're running out of "this year" time
[18:21] <FFEMTcJ> right
[18:21] <mhall119> but we might just have a handful of people over one saturday
[18:21] <mhall119> instead of planning a large event again
[18:21] <FFEMTcJ> i think thatd be better and more affordable
[18:22] <mhall119> yeah
[18:22] <mhall119> and less taxing on my sanity
[18:22] <FFEMTcJ> hehe
[18:23] <Pendulum> mhall119: and less taxing on Michelle's baking/cooking energy?
[18:23] <FFEMTcJ> i think she enjoyed all that cookinge
[18:23] <FFEMTcJ> cooking
[18:23] <mhall119> Pendulum: it would be, except she'll cook enough to feed an army anyway
[18:23] <mhall119> we tend to have 5 pounds of food per person, I think
[18:24] <Pendulum> I'm not sure I eat that much food in a week
[18:24] <mhall119> she needs to finish letting her arm heal though, before she does that
[18:24] <FFEMTcJ> ya
[18:25]  * FFEMTcJ is thinking about asking to take a nap
[18:26] <mhall119> at work already?
[18:28] <mhall119> FFEMTcJ: to answer your question from yesterday, I've never touched Ruby or Rails, sorry
[18:28] <FFEMTcJ> since 730 yesterday mornin
[18:28] <FFEMTcJ> gotcha
[18:28] <FFEMTcJ> I coundnt find the theme in bzr
[18:28] <Pendulum> FFEMTcJ: you have to ask to nap? when I was doing EMS they didn't care as long as we could get up quickly if a call came in
[18:29] <FFEMTcJ> Pendulum: technically its against SOP to sleep prior to 2000, however the Lt is allowed to deviate from that rule.. i was in charge yesterday, but not today...
[18:29] <Pendulum> ah
[18:29] <FFEMTcJ> bbiab.. have a teleconference i have to go be a part of
[18:51] <_marx_> pleia2: now appropriate time to mail loco list re: instructors, participants for UUD?
[18:51] <pleia2> _marx_: yeah, we can move forward with that
[18:52] <_marx_> good
[18:52] <pleia2> this is the email Nigel sent out to his loco team: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-in/2009-December/006707.html
[18:52] <pleia2> so if someone wants to take/adapt that for loco-contacts, that'd be cool
[19:01] <_marx_> that was my understanding from reading the meeting log this am, just wanted to double check
[19:01]  * FFEMTcJ is back
[22:11] <mhall119> pleia2: I'm trying to think of something to do for ubuntu user days
[22:12] <mhall119> I was thinking maybe a GPG+Evolution session, but I'm not sure that's beginner-level enough.  FFEMTcJ said I should get your opinion
[22:58] <pleia2> mhall119: I think that's fine
[22:59] <mhall119> okay, I'll start thinking about what to do for that
[22:59] <pleia2> I think we need to strike a balance between "beginner enough to use irc, but not too advanced as to lose people"
[23:00] <mhall119> I think I can get the concepts and the practice across, without having to delve into the theory of GPG and cryptography
[23:16] <_marx_> nc loco has had 4 replies to UUD post; not counting akgraner 's three said IRC isn't beginner-ish enough
[23:17] <akgraner> _marx_, I was surprised by those responses... did you understand my response...
[23:18] <akgraner> but glad to know people feel that way about IRC though...
[23:18] <_marx_> yes, and good point on brainstorm
[23:19]  * _marx_ was surprised too, to me IRC isn't _that difficult
[23:22]  * _marx_ thinks in publicizing UUD there should be an emphasis on using webchat.freenode.net and possibly a session on IRC usage
[23:56] <FFEMTcJ> _marx_: or use lernid!
[23:57]  * _marx_ disagrees
[23:58] <_marx_> that would require a beginner-ish person to learn to use a Launchpad personal package archive
[23:58] <_marx_> maybe if lernid is in the next release
[23:59] <mhall119> you could make it a downloadable .deb