[00:51] pleia2: are we on for tonight at 9pm EST? [00:52] cprofitt: yes [01:32] meeting in t - 30? [01:40] yup [01:40] i was afraid I'd miss it [01:40] my router's been acting up [01:40] got kicked out of my network for 2 hours, for no reason [01:40] lol [01:41] I feel like sh... crap [01:41] FFEMTcJ: stuck at work? [01:41] yup.. and sick now [01:41] still have 35 hours left... [01:41] 35 hours? [01:41] wat?? [01:42] 13 down [01:42] u have to work for 35 hours??? [01:42] 35 more hours [01:43] all day today, all day tomorrow, off tues, all day wed, off thurs fri, all day sat sun of mon/tues [01:44] on-call or in office? [01:44] in [01:44] okay thats bad [01:44] really bad [01:45] normally i work 24 hours on 48 off, but we can "trade days" with people sometimes, so im workin 48 today/tomorrow and 48 sat/sun cause i got two days off from other people workin for me [01:45] what do u work as, if I may take the freedom to ask [01:45] ff = fire fighter emt = emt, allthought now a paramedic [01:46] i wish i could take some nyquil [01:46] oh, that way [01:47] at least you'll be sitting around doing noting for some time [01:47] in theory [01:47] i think we have run 6 calls so far [01:47] oh oh [01:48] but then every job has its own difficulties [01:48] i gotta work only 8 hours, but I gotta be banging on my keyboard the whole time [01:48] i just hope i can get some sleep tonight [01:48] there's this thing [01:48] u probably know [01:48] and see, i spend more than 8 hours (as long as i can) on the keyboard at work [01:49] the adrenaline rush that you get when you save someone or help someon [01:49] that ought to keep you awake [01:49] i love the rush.. but we run so much b.s. that doesnt get the rush [01:49] id do 48 hours without sleep as long as im running real calls [01:49] stubbed toes, or calling me because you cant sleep, when i was sleeping.. not so much [01:50] oops [01:50] u actually get those "calling me because I cant sleep" calls? [01:50] isnt it illegal? [01:50] nope [01:50] you call we hall [01:50] probably it might fall into suicidal ideation category [01:50] thats the beauty of our current *free* heathcare system [01:51] free healthcare? [01:51] yup.. [01:51] wait a min, you're not in US? [01:51] in us [01:51] US and free healthcare? [01:51] a hospital cannot turn a pt away [01:51] okay, I'm properly shocked [01:51] ah, that way [01:51] because they recieve federal money [01:52] people go there to get refills on their Rx, and call us to get them there [01:53] paramedics? [01:53] uh huh [01:53] to get people to hospital to refill medications? [01:53] uh huh [01:53] you call, we haul [01:53] I can't find an appropriate word that wouldn't be against the CoC :P [01:53] speaking of which.. i gota a call.. bbl [01:54] * pleia2 comes home with some takeout foods [01:54] wb pleia2 [01:54] thanks [01:54] its 7:25 [01:54] 5 mins to go [01:55] I mean 0155 UTC [01:55] yep [01:59] any news of martin? [01:59] nope [01:59] last I knew he was quite ill :( [01:59] oh :( [01:59] looks like all of us are taking turns [01:59] yep [01:59] I guess I led the way :P [02:00] yeah thanks :) [02:00] ok, #ubuntu-meeting [02:00] cprofitt: you joining us? [02:02] no vantrax either :( [02:03] paultag: around? [02:03] BiosElement: meeting? [02:05] back [02:05] FFEMTcJ: #ubuntu-meeting [02:05] we've started [02:05] yup [02:33] hey guys... [02:33] yes [02:33] I have some questions about Bzr when you have a chance [02:33] cprofitt: fire away, I'm not an expert, but since I'm writing the lesson, I have a good idea [02:35] will there be one Bzr entry for each class or one Bzr entry for our entire project? [02:35] well, each class will have one entry [02:36] I suspect it will get merged as we move on [02:36] ok... [02:36] I really have not worked with Bzr... [02:36] so just kind of curious [02:36] I started learning with the lesson [02:37] its easy [02:37] I didn't know anything till I started the lesson, martin gave me a lesson [02:37] with the lesson? [02:38] i mean on IRC [02:38] ah... [02:38] a session, martin, BiosElement_, and mhall119 pitched in to help [02:38] we need to develop a 'lesson' that is in writing -- Moodle or otherwise for the future. [02:38] I'm doing the introduction to bzr course [02:38] almost done [02:39] once I'm done, we can work together to get it too moodle [02:39] I want to learn moodle too [02:39] nigel_nb: I can help with Moodle, but I want to develop a course [02:39] on asciidoc? [02:39] I walked pleia2 and Martin through Moodle, but I do not think it was sufficient to really help [02:40] just got another instructor [02:40] oh, you want a lesson completed [02:40] I think having content is vital at this point [02:40] nice [02:40] without actually doing it, it's tricky to learn for me [02:40] so that we can actually convert to moodle and everyone gets the idea? [02:40] nigel_nb: yeah, that's what I need :) [02:40] yeah... [02:40] how long are you both gonna be up? [02:40] and I hope to take a few of the courses and do that... and really develop a process [02:40] I will be on for another hour or two [02:41] I may not be glued to irssi though [02:41] because I have only some 3 sections to complete [02:41] I can finish it fast [02:41] I just need someone here so that I can ask doubts [02:41] nigel_nb: I will not have the time to convert it -- so do not rush [02:41] but when you get it done... walk me through what you have and then I can start converting to Moodle [02:41] cprofitt: before you convert, it needs to be reviewed [02:42] nigel_nb: I can always reconvert... [02:42] it would be good, unapproved or not, to do a dry run [02:42] good point, to flush out the processes [02:43] pleia2: I spoke with nhandler__ about the topic [02:44] he says it could be done, but he'll check with the board and get back [02:45] nigel_nb: ok thanks :) [02:45] who's indigo by the way? [02:45] cprofitt [02:46] okay, thats a confusing ID [02:46] confused me for a while too, he doesn't sign his emails or put his name in the emails *cough* ;) [02:46] indigo is a left over from my days of working with the secret service on a case [02:46] I obsfucated my existence on the web [02:46] i looked at cprofitt's wiki page too [02:46] * nigel_nb bows [02:47] I thik I am singing my name now pleia2 [02:47] yea, you did that on the last mail, which I replied [02:47] I did wonder who it was [02:48] no where else though [02:48] oh and pleia2, gonna be around? [02:48] tonight? [02:48] yea [02:49] doubtful, exhaustion is taking over again [02:49] * FFEMTcJ is thinking about trying to pass out [02:49] I need a quick update of what went wrong [02:49] when u used the scripts that is [02:50] nigel_nb: not "the scripts" just asciidoc filename.txt on some [02:51] so you might want to run through and error check them all [02:51] I did try that some time back and it did work [02:51] must be something silly [02:52] lemme check and get back to you pleia2 [02:53] pleia2: hahaha [02:53] spelling mistake in the template [02:53] ah :) [02:53] that'll do it [02:54] oops [02:54] * pleia2 seeks rest now [02:55] * nigel_nb grants [02:55] :P [02:55] :) [02:56] * nigel_nb has only 2 more sections to go [14:22] pleia2: if didn't see it yet, 2 guys from Indian loco have agreed to take classes :) [14:23] nigel_nb: I saw, that's great :) [14:23] :) [14:25] oh, by the way, I tried converted the asciidoc, looks like I need bioselement's help here [14:25] its getting messed up, the width is not being controlled and "some" error [14:29] I think you need to cut off your line width at 80 characters [14:30] in the checkins it looks like it wasn't cut off at all [14:39] It should be automatic [14:39] if its manual, doesnt make sense, there should be a command that I could add [15:08] vim has commands for easy line wrapping [15:11] no i mean, something with asciidoc, when converting [17:59] has anyone seen the good doctor? [18:02] looks like he's still on the other side of the pond [18:02] ok, thanks [18:03] I at least got a legitimate opportunity to use a Dr. Who line [18:03] :) [18:03] he's been ill too, so between traveling, family and being sick, I doubt we'll see him much until he returns [18:04] ah, ok [18:04] that's okay, I see that zareason is doing the case badges, so I don't have to mooch of the Mass. team [18:04] * pleia2 nods [18:15] mhall119: whatcha gonna teach for user days? ;-) [18:16] who what? [18:16] what'd I just get volunteered for? [18:16] Teaching a 1 hour course for user days... [18:16] hey.. do yall need help with week? [18:18] FFEMTcJ: we're good for now [18:18] got all the new computers into the shop [18:18] cool [18:19] * FFEMTcJ is sick anyway.. but if you needed help.. i would've [18:19] we're going to have an install-fest sometime soonish though to get Ubuntu on all of them [18:19] I know [18:19] sweet [18:19] def want to be there [18:19] yeah, there will be food again [18:19] i really wish i wasnt stuck at work as bad as im feeling.. [18:19] plain ubuntu or? [18:19] FFEMTcJ: it's no problem, my parents actually came over and helped me, it wasn't bad [18:19] cool [18:20] FFEMTcJ: stock Ubuntu on these, they're going to high school seniors who are facing entering college without a computer [18:20] gotcha [18:20] any thought on when? [18:21] (this year/next year) [18:21] not yet [18:21] we're running out of "this year" time [18:21] right [18:21] but we might just have a handful of people over one saturday [18:21] instead of planning a large event again [18:21] i think thatd be better and more affordable [18:22] yeah [18:22] and less taxing on my sanity [18:22] hehe [18:23] mhall119: and less taxing on Michelle's baking/cooking energy? [18:23] i think she enjoyed all that cookinge [18:23] cooking [18:23] Pendulum: it would be, except she'll cook enough to feed an army anyway [18:23] we tend to have 5 pounds of food per person, I think [18:24] I'm not sure I eat that much food in a week [18:24] she needs to finish letting her arm heal though, before she does that [18:24] ya [18:25] * FFEMTcJ is thinking about asking to take a nap [18:26] at work already? [18:28] FFEMTcJ: to answer your question from yesterday, I've never touched Ruby or Rails, sorry [18:28] since 730 yesterday mornin [18:28] gotcha [18:28] I coundnt find the theme in bzr [18:28] FFEMTcJ: you have to ask to nap? when I was doing EMS they didn't care as long as we could get up quickly if a call came in [18:29] Pendulum: technically its against SOP to sleep prior to 2000, however the Lt is allowed to deviate from that rule.. i was in charge yesterday, but not today... [18:29] ah [18:29] bbiab.. have a teleconference i have to go be a part of [18:51] <_marx_> pleia2: now appropriate time to mail loco list re: instructors, participants for UUD? [18:51] _marx_: yeah, we can move forward with that [18:52] <_marx_> good [18:52] this is the email Nigel sent out to his loco team: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-in/2009-December/006707.html [18:52] so if someone wants to take/adapt that for loco-contacts, that'd be cool [19:01] <_marx_> that was my understanding from reading the meeting log this am, just wanted to double check [19:01] * FFEMTcJ is back === mhall1191 is now known as mhall119 [22:11] pleia2: I'm trying to think of something to do for ubuntu user days [22:12] I was thinking maybe a GPG+Evolution session, but I'm not sure that's beginner-level enough. FFEMTcJ said I should get your opinion [22:58] mhall119: I think that's fine [22:59] okay, I'll start thinking about what to do for that [22:59] I think we need to strike a balance between "beginner enough to use irc, but not too advanced as to lose people" [23:00] I think I can get the concepts and the practice across, without having to delve into the theory of GPG and cryptography [23:16] <_marx_> nc loco has had 4 replies to UUD post; not counting akgraner 's three said IRC isn't beginner-ish enough [23:17] _marx_, I was surprised by those responses... did you understand my response... [23:18] but glad to know people feel that way about IRC though... [23:18] <_marx_> yes, and good point on brainstorm [23:19] * _marx_ was surprised too, to me IRC isn't _that difficult [23:22] * _marx_ thinks in publicizing UUD there should be an emphasis on using webchat.freenode.net and possibly a session on IRC usage [23:56] _marx_: or use lernid! [23:57] * _marx_ disagrees [23:58] <_marx_> that would require a beginner-ish person to learn to use a Launchpad personal package archive [23:58] <_marx_> maybe if lernid is in the next release [23:59] you could make it a downloadable .deb