| ScottK | Someone could look at kdenetwork and figure out what to do about libortp-dev being in Universe. | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| ScottK | off to cook dinner. | 00:06 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: I don't understand...I change some symbols files, yes, but my package is already in archive lol | 00:07 |
| Lex79 | *changed | 00:07 |
| JontheEchidna | Lex79: but are bzr and the archive in sync? | 00:07 |
| Lex79 | looking | 00:07 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: seems not | 00:09 |
| Lex79 | kdeartwork is funny, JontheEchidna are you going to fix the mess in bzr for kdelibs? | 00:39 |
| ScottK | Lex79: Please clean it up then. | 00:45 |
| Lex79 | I'm doing | 00:45 |
| ScottK | Great. | 00:45 |
| Lex79 | ever | 00:45 |
| Lex79 | :P | 00:45 |
| Lex79 | ScottK: uhm, bzr is sync with archive + Jon changes, no changes in symbol file http://pastebin.ca/1706275 | 00:49 |
| ScottK | Lex79: Odd. Maybe I had on old one from the PPA. | 00:49 |
| * ScottK tries again. | 00:49 | |
| ScottK | Thanks for looking. | 00:49 |
| Lex79 | no problem | 00:49 |
| Lex79 | the package in ppa have different symbol files due to different version of the package (~ppaX) | 00:50 |
| ScottK | Lex79: My fault. I still had ninja PPA in my sources and it had 4.3.80a, so it got pulled | 00:54 |
| ScottK | Thanks again. | 00:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | ScottK: its up? | 00:54 |
| ScottK | Getting there | 00:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | kk | 00:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | just got hm. its a flipping zoo down here | 00:55 |
| ScottK | Lex79 and JontheEchidna: All better now. | 00:55 |
| JontheEchidna | yay, kdebase-runtime built | 00:56 |
| ScottK | \o/ | 00:57 |
| Daskreech | DarkwingDuck: Poop from the ceiling ? | 00:57 |
| ScottK | The depwait stuff is fixed for now, so stuff should try to build on their own once it's published | 00:58 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Uploaded. | 00:59 |
| JontheEchidna | \o/ | 00:59 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I think it's just edu and artwork now. | 00:59 |
| * ScottK goes off to dinner. | 01:00 | |
| DarkwingDuck | im in SoCal... 3 inches of rain today... 240 car crashes today alone | 01:01 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36555435/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.libattica_0.1.0~svn1055247-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 01:22 |
| Lex79 | libattica ftbs in staging due to dh --with kde clean, dh: unable to load addon kde | 01:23 |
| JontheEchidna | switching to kde.mk like other stuff from karmic should be very easy (and also fix it) | 01:23 |
| Lex79 | ok | 01:24 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: this? include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/1/debian-qt-kde.mk | 01:25 |
| JontheEchidna | nope | 01:25 |
| JontheEchidna | find kde.mk karmic | 01:25 |
| JontheEchidna | !find kde.mk karmic | 01:25 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 01:25 |
| ubottu | Found: language-pack-kde-mk, language-pack-kde-mk-base | 01:25 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 01:26 |
| Lex79 | lol | 01:26 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: cdbs? | 01:26 |
| Lex79 | /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/cdbs/kde.mk | 01:26 |
| JontheEchidna | /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/cdbs/kde.mk | 01:26 |
| JontheEchidna | yes! | 01:26 |
| Lex79 | perfect | 01:26 |
| Daskreech | !info kde | 01:26 |
| ubottu | Package kde does not exist in karmic | 01:26 |
| Daskreech | !info kubuntu-desktop | 01:27 |
| ubottu | kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.154 (karmic), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB | 01:27 |
| Daskreech | That's what I thought | 01:27 |
| Lex79 | after 10 uploads, I'm beginning to hate kdeartwork | 01:37 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 01:38 |
| Daskreech | but it's so puuuurty | 01:39 |
| Lex79 | :) | 01:40 |
| nixternal | is lucid in shams right now? | 01:41 |
| Daskreech | Lex79: what's up with KDE-pim ? | 01:42 |
| ScottK | Not for pre-alpha 1, no. | 01:43 |
| Lex79 | kdepim is not in archive yet | 01:47 |
| Daskreech | Ok just checking | 01:48 |
| JontheEchidna | All kde apps seem to be stuck in a loop searching for localization information | 01:49 |
| JontheEchidna | strace shows it trying to read things over and over again from /usr/share/locale | 01:50 |
| Daskreech | Riddell is i10n ? | 01:50 |
| nicklas_ | ok | 01:50 |
| Lex79 | btw about kdepim, we should remove from the archive Bilbo, now is Blogilo and is part of kdepim | 01:50 |
| * Daskreech announces Minion | 01:50 | |
| Daskreech | JontheEchidna: Would you like a new minion ? | 01:51 |
| nicklas_ | anyone have that link for the ubuntu packaging guide? | 01:51 |
| Lex79 | maybe this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete | 01:51 |
| nicklas_ | that will take some time to read :-P | 01:52 |
| Lex79 | eheh :) | 01:52 |
| Daskreech | :-D | 01:52 |
| Lex79 | Daskreech: or this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ :P | 01:53 |
| nicklas_ | and im too tired to do it now, tomorrow 02.53 am here | 01:54 |
| Daskreech | nicklas_: No problem. Bookmarks Rock! | 01:54 |
| Lex79 | oh kdeartwork built \o/ | 01:59 |
| Daskreech | whoot now will it upload? | 02:00 |
| Daskreech | error: filesystem full | 02:00 |
| Lex79 | lol | 02:00 |
| Lex79 | ScottK: kdeartwork is done, I pushed to bzr | 02:10 |
| Lex79 | 'night | 02:10 |
| ScottK | Lex79: Thanks | 02:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | um.. ScottK? | 02:14 |
| ScottK | What? | 02:14 |
| DarkwingDuck | My netbook is possessed I swear | 02:14 |
| DarkwingDuck | I updated... | 02:15 |
| DarkwingDuck | It boots into a terminal login | 02:15 |
| DarkwingDuck | once I login I start kdm | 02:15 |
| ScottK | If you'd asked me, I'd have suggested waiting until Wed. | 02:15 |
| ScottK | We'll be in the middle of the freeze for Alpha 1 and it should be reasonably stable at that point. | 02:16 |
| DarkwingDuck | Not it's stuck in a never ending loop of login screens | 02:16 |
| shtylman | can we build packages from bzr repos yet :) ? | 02:16 |
| ScottK | I don't think so | 02:17 |
| shtylman | sadness | 02:17 |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: What happens if you startx instead of starting kdm directly? | 02:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'll try then when I get back upstairs | 02:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | ScottK: startx loads it right up... However, no mouse anymore. | 02:38 |
| DarkwingDuck | KnetworkManager crashes | 02:39 |
| ScottK | Progress. | 02:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah, I finally have a workspace again! :D | 02:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | Now, what is the command line for auto-reconfigure a mouse... | 02:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | hmmm, my wireless card isn't working either... | 02:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | and my sound card crashed | 02:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | weeeeee | 02:43 |
| JontheEchidna | bleh, KDE is without a doubt busted | 02:43 |
| jjesse | are you running lucid DarkwingDuck? | 02:44 |
| JontheEchidna | luckily I planned ahead this time and installed xfce and gdm beforehand ;-) | 02:44 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: yes | 02:44 |
| DarkwingDuck | I knew this was going to happen so, I wasn't planning on using my netbook till Camp-KDE | 02:45 |
| JontheEchidna | DarkwingDuck, how goes your kde upgrade? | 02:45 |
| ScottK | maco: Any word on edu? | 02:45 |
| maco | ScottK: ive been in class since you last asked | 02:46 |
| ScottK | maco: OK. | 02:46 |
| maco | ScottK: and now im going home to work on a final project i have to present tomorrow | 02:46 |
| DarkwingDuck | JontheEchidna: I have one work for the upgrade... Ouch | 02:46 |
| DarkwingDuck | work=word | 02:46 |
| ScottK | maco: Please upload what you have to the ninja PPA then so someone else can have a look. | 02:46 |
| maco | i dont know where to find apachelogger's hooks to let me figure out what happened in pbuilder, so im kinda stuck anyway at the moment | 02:46 |
| JontheEchidna | what happens when you startx? | 02:46 |
| DarkwingDuck | startx loads into workspace without wireless, sound or mouth | 02:47 |
| ScottK | th/se | 02:47 |
| JontheEchidna | ouch, but plasma and friends run? | 02:47 |
| DarkwingDuck | mouth=mouse | 02:47 |
| DarkwingDuck | yeah, it runs ish | 02:47 |
| Daskreech | DarkwingDuck: of course. You haven't run kdeinit probably | 02:47 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm... I just get the rotating cursor across a black screen of doom | 02:47 |
| Daskreech | ddoooooooooooooom | 02:48 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'm trying to remember how to reconfigure my mouse from terminal | 02:48 |
| JontheEchidna | kdostartupconfig4 hangs at 100% cpu indefinitely | 02:48 |
| JontheEchidna | and starting any KDE app from xfce causes it to take up 100% cpu, much as it did before the restart | 02:48 |
| DarkwingDuck | What the heck you guys do last night? | 02:49 |
| DarkwingDuck | :P:P | 02:49 |
| ScottK | Uploaded a beta release of a major KDE version. | 02:49 |
| JontheEchidna | the thing is, 4.4 beta worked for me at first | 02:49 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahhhh so this is KDE 4.4B fault? | 02:49 |
| ScottK | It would be suprising if it were smooth | 02:49 |
| DarkwingDuck | Oh I know | 02:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | I have the *net working via a wire | 02:50 |
| maco | ScottK: ok uploaded to ppa in a non-building state with -0ubuntu0~maco1 for version so it doesnt interfere when -0ubuntu1 is figured out | 02:52 |
| ScottK | maco: Thanks. | 02:52 |
| DarkwingDuck | ohhhhh... an error when sudo apt-get upgrade.... "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim;ibs-data_4%3a4.3.80-0ubuntu1_all.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" <---- Any ideas? | 02:54 |
| * Daskreech chuckles | 02:54 | |
| Daskreech | Is that a copy and paste? | 02:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | nawww... | 02:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | seperate systems. I tagged that | 02:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | read and type | 02:55 |
| Daskreech | ok | 02:55 |
| Daskreech | Would be amusing if someone uploaded a package with ; for a l | 02:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | oops, typo on the package | 02:55 |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: Already uploaded kdepimlibs to fix that | 02:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahhhh, when is that available for download? | 02:56 |
| * JontheEchidna is stuck with xchat and xterm and misses konversation and konsole :( | 02:57 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Im a fan of quassel actually | 02:57 |
| DarkwingDuck | xchat? *gags* | 02:58 |
| Daskreech | JontheEchidna: ha I went for two weeks with no X once when some packages broke X | 02:58 |
| JontheEchidna | DarkwingDuck: kdepimlibs updates should be available now | 02:59 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah, it's crashing each time | 02:59 |
| DarkwingDuck | Ill try to update again before I upgrade *sigh* | 02:59 |
| JontheEchidna | sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepimlibs-data_4%3a4.3.80-0ubuntu1_all.deb will get your packaging system in a usable state again | 03:00 |
| ScottK | artwork uploading | 03:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | woah... | 03:01 |
| DarkwingDuck | click click boom... | 03:02 |
| jjesse | good boom? bad boom? | 03:02 |
| DarkwingDuck | Unknown media types | 03:02 |
| DarkwingDuck | That's the only error it turned back... | 03:02 |
| DarkwingDuck | ohhhhhhhhhh working... | 03:03 |
| DarkwingDuck | YAY! | 03:04 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay, lemme try a reboot and see what happens | 03:04 |
| * JontheEchidna predicts spinning cursor of doom | 03:05 | |
| dtchen | quilt push 0070-dont-bail-on-sound-class-modem-devs.patch | 03:05 |
| dtchen | gah, sorry | 03:06 |
| DarkwingDuck | GAHHHHHHHHH | 03:06 |
| DarkwingDuck | ROFLMAO!!!! | 03:07 |
| DarkwingDuck | Okay, no spinning curser of doom... | 03:08 |
| JontheEchidna | that's good | 03:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | believe it or not I'm back to the first error | 03:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | I login, it kicks me back to the login screen, I login a second time and it crashes | 03:09 |
| ScottK | artwork is up. Is edu the last one we're missing? | 03:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | I have no workspace but, wireless, mouse and sound is back | 03:10 |
| DarkwingDuck | ScottK: back to the first problem again LOL | 03:10 |
| * nixternal waits to update :) | 03:31 | |
| nixternal | let me know when it is safe | 03:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | LOL hey nixternal | 03:33 |
| DarkwingDuck | BUT WHY... *sigh* | 03:33 |
| Daskreech | safe | 03:35 |
| Daskreech | lol | 03:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | why why why | 03:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | Why does it require me to login twice?? | 03:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | and thus, cause plasma-netbook and KDE daemon to crash? | 03:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | *sigh* | 03:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | AND plasma desktop? | 03:37 |
| === jjesse___ is now known as jjesse | ||
| yofel | DarkwingDuck: can you rename /usr/lib/kde4/solid_hal_power.so and see if it still crahes? | 03:38 |
| ScottK | Note to self: Do NOT try to stop dbus inside the chroot "because it will help the new dbus to configure". | 03:39 |
| ScottK | It did what I wanted (dbus configured), but I forgot stopping dbus was stopping dbus. | 03:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | yofel: rebooting now. | 03:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | yofel: That worked!! | 03:42 |
| yofel | DarkwingDuck: DanaG posted that workaround in #ubuntu+1 yesterday (I had the same crashes on amd64) | 03:42 |
| yofel | now why does that make it crash... | 03:43 |
| * DarkwingDuck buys yofel a couple of kegs | 03:43 | |
| DarkwingDuck | At least we know where it is... However, it still required me to log in twice | 03:43 |
| ScottK | yofel: Reported bugs to bugs.kde.org? | 03:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | If not, I will.... | 03:44 |
| yofel | not yet, was too busy | 03:44 |
| nixternal | hey, whats up with 4.3.4? text editors are bombing -> "A KDE text-editor component could not be found. Please check your KDE installation." | 03:44 |
| DarkwingDuck | You want to report it yofel or, should I do it? | 03:44 |
| yofel | DarkwingDuck: can you do it please, I can't do it before tomorrow (and give me the bug number) | 03:45 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Please file a bug on project kubuntu-ppa | 03:45 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah, not a problem yofel. I'll get it as soon as I go smoke. | 03:45 |
| DarkwingDuck | ScottK: It would fall under snapshot/SVN right? | 03:58 |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: Unless 4.3.80 is a choice | 03:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | Nope. 4.3.4 | 03:58 |
| ScottK | Say in the text of the bug it's 4.3..80 | 04:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | kk | 04:05 |
| DarkwingDuck | ScottK, yofel: Bug reported... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217816 | 04:08 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 217816 in plasma-netbook "KDE Daemon and plasma-netbook crashed on startup" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 04:08 |
| * DarkwingDuck wonders why he has 48 blocked updates | 04:11 | |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: apt-get dist-ugprade | 04:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | oooohhhhh 184 MEGS of updates | 04:15 |
| * DarkwingDuck holds breath and reboots | 04:21 | |
| DarkwingDuck | As long as my netbook works for capm-kde I'm all up for testing :D | 04:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | GAHHHHHH!!!!! *sigh* | 04:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | Nice little box... "Could not start kdeinit4. Check your installation" | 04:23 |
| DarkwingDuck | broken again ScottK | 04:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | :D | 04:28 |
| ScottK | Remember the part where I suggested waiting until the middle of the Alpha 1 freeze (like on Wed) to do any upgrades? | 04:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | LOL | 04:29 |
| * ScottK wasn't kidding. | 04:29 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah, wayyyy broken | 04:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | okay, wednesday then? LOL | 04:32 |
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| DarkwingDuck | nixternal: We have every spot filled on the Wiki ToDo list!! | 04:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | nixternal: Maybe one of us should send out an email requesting at least a rough draft up and out be end of year? | 04:55 |
| nixternal | DarkwingDuck: go for it :) | 04:57 |
| * nixternal is busy with trunk builds | 04:58 | |
| DarkwingDuck | nixternal: Okay, i'll get it out tonight | 04:58 |
| rgreening | Lex79: ping | 05:49 |
| rgreening | Lex79: pkg-kde-tools dep in karmic backports needs fixing | 05:50 |
| nixternal | Nightrose: for the junior-jobs do they have to be code related? I am sure I can come up with 100 junior-jobs for documentation :) | 05:56 |
| ghostcube | ehlo :) | 08:12 |
| Mamarok | hm, why do we still ship an outdated libmtp8? it's 0.3.7, 1.0.1 is out since August, 1.0.1 is released since a few weeks | 08:57 |
| Nightrose | nixternal: i have no problem with you filing documentation JJs and then pointing people there ;-) | 09:02 |
| Nightrose | go for it | 09:02 |
| Nightrose | uhmmm | 09:22 |
| * Nightrose hopes vorian isn't serious with that facebook invite | 09:22 | |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| Lex79 | rgreening: fixed, thanks | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | maco: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment | 11:12 |
| Riddell | oh tsk, who broke kde4libs | 11:12 |
| * apachelogger hides in fear that it was him | 11:12 | |
| Riddell | hmm, symbols foo | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | hah, how cool is google goggles :D | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: caused by what? | 11:16 |
| Riddell | I've no idea, nothing changed except a Replaces | 11:17 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: you have to change 4.3.80-0ubuntu1 to 0ubuntu2 in libplasma3.symbols.in | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | oh my | 11:18 |
| Lex79 | in all lines where there is 4.3.80-0ubuntu1 | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | what a maintenance overhead | 11:18 |
| Lex79 | yep | 11:19 |
| Riddell | why is the package version in the symbols? | 11:19 |
| Lex79 | iirc I added when I merged | 11:20 |
| Riddell | debian doesn't have the debian part of the version number, I'm sure s/-0ubuntu1// would work | 11:22 |
| Riddell | I'll test that | 11:22 |
| Riddell | the alternative is just to remove the symbols file and ignore the issue | 11:22 |
| Lex79 | I checked better, my fault, I added 0ubuntuX in this release, sorry :) | 11:25 |
| Riddell | building it without to test just incase | 11:29 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| * Riddell takes a look at kdeadmin and kdewebdev build failures while kdelibs compiles | 12:16 | |
| === tusooa_ is now known as tusooa | ||
| ghostcube | split me round round baby round round -.- | 12:47 |
| Riddell | hmm, so in debian libx11-dev is brought in by libgl1-mesa-dev which is brought in by libqt4-opengl-dev | 12:55 |
| * Riddell wonders why that's different with us | 12:56 | |
| Mamarok | hm, why do we still ship an outdated libmtp8? it's 0.3.7, 1.0.1 is out since August, 1.0.1 is released since a few weeks | 13:00 |
| ghostcube | heh Mamarok good question :) | 13:00 |
| Mamarok | because it might be the solution to quite a few Amarok problems... | 13:01 |
| Riddell | I expect that's what debian had when we synced | 13:04 |
| ghostcube | debian stretched release date to later 2010 for new release i read | 13:06 |
| === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening | ||
| Mamarok | hm, I will try pinging the Debian folk, too | 13:07 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| Riddell | seems our buildds don't install recommended packages | 13:21 |
| Riddell | so libqt4-opengl-dev doesn't get install so libx11-dev doesn't get installed | 13:22 |
| Riddell | humph | 13:22 |
| ScottK | Lex79, apachelogger, and Riddell: You shouldn't have to change the symbols files each update. The version in the symbols file should be the version where the symbol first appeared. | 13:22 |
| Lex79 | right | 13:23 |
| apachelogger | makes more sense :D | 13:23 |
| Riddell | infact debian doesn't install libqt4-opengl-dev in its buildds either nor libx11-dev so maybe libx11-dev is just a new dependency in 4.4 | 13:26 |
| rgreening | seems so | 13:26 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: the same issue is present also in some packages in universe, we have to add libx11-dev in this packages too | 13:28 |
| Lex79 | so, it's not just a new dependency for 4.4. | 13:29 |
| rgreening | guess someone dropped the dep .. wonder if accidental or intentional | 13:30 |
| rgreening | or a result of a bad merge | 13:30 |
| Lex79 | intentional | 13:31 |
| Riddell | debian doesn't have it | 13:31 |
| Lex79 | yes | 13:31 |
| Riddell | so there's some difference somewhere | 13:31 |
| Riddell | well I'll add it back as a depend on libqt4-dev | 13:32 |
| Riddell | ScottK: you were saying colin was doing something which might make qt compile on arm? | 13:32 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 494027, strace coming (I knew I couldn't be alone) | 14:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 494027 in kde4libs "After upgrade to KDE 4.4 beta in Lucid, no KDE applications will start." [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494027 | 14:04 |
| JontheEchidna | will probably render the next daily iso unbootable | 14:05 |
| Riddell | oh joy | 14:05 |
| JontheEchidna | kdm_greet is affected too in my experience | 14:06 |
| yofel | it is | 14:06 |
| Riddell | would help if I could get kdelibs to compile, it gets stuck on meinproc doing the docs | 14:06 |
| JontheEchidna | meinproc has also gotten stuck for quintasan on kdeutils and for maco in kdeedu | 14:06 |
| yofel | when kdm starts up you get a spinning cursor of death with kdm_greet stuck at 100% CPU | 14:07 |
| JontheEchidna | yep | 14:07 |
| JontheEchidna | gotta install gdm and maybe xfce to get a working X environment | 14:08 |
| yofel | gdm + gnome works | 14:08 |
| JontheEchidna | I might keep xfce around even after KDE is fixed... it's not that large | 14:09 |
| Riddell | strace suggests its the same locale issue for meinproc | 14:09 |
| JontheEchidna | but I do not like xchat at all (not that it's an xfce thing, but...) | 14:09 |
| JontheEchidna | oh? They're related? interesting... | 14:10 |
| JontheEchidna | I did have a KDE 4.4 workspace working at one point | 14:10 |
| JontheEchidna | then after some upgrades stuff didn't work when I rebooted. | 14:10 |
| JontheEchidna | (this is when we were building stuff in -ninjas) | 14:11 |
| JontheEchidna | Unfortunately I cannot recall which upgrade killed things :( | 14:11 |
| Quintasan|Szel | hurr, just thinking I'm wasting my time in school makes me rage | 14:11 |
| Riddell | I'll try compiling kdelibs without patches and see if that sorts it | 14:11 |
| ScottK | Riddell: cjwatson was. Let me check in with him. | 14:15 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan|Szel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnQSMTpFSMI (don't have speakers up) | 14:16 |
| JontheEchidna | oh.. but you're at school | 14:16 |
| * Quintasan|Szel is heading home now :P | 14:17 | |
| Quintasan|Szel | anyways I've wasted 2h+ on PE and lesson after that because they didnt assign us a teacher for subsstitute :/ | 14:18 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger has created the Church of Kubuntu now :D | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | now? you apparently did not notice all the secret societies I founded over the years :P | 14:24 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: This looks suspicious: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp?r1=1058720&r2=1058719&pathrev=1058720 | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | "I've herd rumors that KDE might become the standard desktop environment in | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | Ubuntu. Anyone else know anything about that?" | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | that is an interesting rumor indeed :D | 14:26 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: I believe that prompted a tarball respin | 14:26 |
| JontheEchidna | and before the new tarball things were working fine | 14:27 |
| JontheEchidna | wait, that's post-beta | 14:27 |
| JontheEchidna | still a bit suspicious | 14:28 |
| JontheEchidna | perhaps an infinite updatecatalogs loop due to an incorrect number of catalogs it's looking for? | 14:29 |
| JontheEchidna | since I believe we add a few | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | omg! android is beating up wmobile | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | at least in the HTC universe | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | oh my | 14:32 |
| * ghostcube maeomo user in the future | 14:32 | |
| ghostcube | maemo | 14:32 |
| ghostcube | :) | 14:33 |
| * apachelogger is seriously looking forward to the battle maemo vs. android vs. iphone | 14:33 | |
| ghostcube | vs iphone o.O | 14:33 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I got kdeedu building last night, but ran out of energy to get it finished. I'm planning to upload it without the new packages added so we at least have a complete set. | 14:33 |
| ghostcube | iphone is a gameboy for runaways | 14:33 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: There was a spoof blog entry somewhere about that some time ago | 14:33 |
| txwikinger | android? | 14:34 |
| ghostcube | what kde defaulting into ubuntu o.O | 14:34 |
| * txwikinger heard google is working on stealingn the evil empire status from M$ | 14:34 | |
| ghostcube | yeah with its strange chrome os | 14:34 |
| ghostcube | :) | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | its not google's fault that noone seemd to be able to create a sensible browser and then an OS tuned towards the intartubes | 14:35 |
| ghostcube | :D | 14:35 |
| * apachelogger finds that fact alone very scary TBH | 14:35 | |
| claydoh | apachelogger: someone in kubuntuforums theorized the kde-to-replace-gnome thing, he is an anti-mono person, and postulated that shuttleworth keeps kubuntu around just in case the hammer comes down from MS on its patents | 14:35 |
| JontheEchidna | IBM was the evil empire for the mainframe days. Microsoft for the desktop days. Google will be the evil empire of the interwebs days | 14:35 |
| ScottK | claydoh: You going to do us an Alpha ! announcement? | 14:36 |
| ScottK | !/1 | 14:36 |
| txwikinger | IBM was? IBM *is* still the evil empire for mainframes :D | 14:36 |
| claydoh | um, maybe, though I have not even tried lucid yet :/ | 14:36 |
| JontheEchidna | but they're not evil since they put $1bn into linux | 14:36 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: I hope someone explained to him that novell sold out to MS and hence mono is in no danger (well the next 10 years or so anyway) | 14:37 |
| txwikinger | well.. maybe they try to mask their evilness :p | 14:37 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: that won't woork with him | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | it's more of a public opinion thing | 14:37 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: kdelibs without patches seems to solve the meinproc infinite loop | 14:37 |
| txwikinger | JontheEchidna: Google uses Linux (even an internal ubuntu derivate) everywhere too | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: so tell him that MS is advertising mono as official port | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | because that is what happens | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | I wonder if applying: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kdecore/localization/klocale.cpp?r1=1058720&r2=1058719&pathrev=1058720 would fix it | 14:38 |
| * txwikinger deleted tomboy from his desktop after finding out it uses mono | 14:38 | |
| claydoh | apachelogger: no, he is pretty much locked into his view | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | just saying, if you dont fix him, at least prevent others from believing him | 14:39 |
| * apachelogger finds that seroiusly messed up | 14:39 | |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: I'll try that | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | just like I found it seriously messed up when gnome fanboys called Qt unfree because of the dual license thingy | 14:39 |
| txwikinger | btw... in South America there is something liek a 4:1 ration of KDE:Gnome usage | 14:39 |
| JontheEchidna | kde rev 1057627 looks suspicious too | 14:40 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1057627&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1057627 | initialize 'currency' in the proper order | 14:40 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: I just don't like mono :D nothing to do with freedom :p | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | well, that is another thing | 14:40 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: if you are bored http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3108275.0 | 14:41 |
| claydoh | icluding my lame attempt to get a simple question answered | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | someone sould add a disclaimr to the first post :P | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | then all is good | 14:42 |
| claydoh | Ok, so what is new and kewl for alpha1? besides the kde version? | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | curch of kubuntu obviously | 14:45 |
| txwikinger | Novell is a wholly owned subsidiary of M$? | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: did you take at novell's numbers recently ... their linux stuff drives in ~40M IIRC, compared to ~200M loss or so | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | mostly write-offs, but still | 14:47 |
| * claydoh goes out to move snow and then get lunch | 14:47 | |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: They will win billions of $ from SCO :D :p | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | if they want to focus on the linux market stuff, then they either need to boost the market a whole lot, or they need to shrink the company | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | personally observation that is | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: I would not count on that :P | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | where there is nothing, you cant win anything :P | 14:48 |
| Tm_T | claydoh: that's nuts... | 14:49 |
| * txwikinger needs to stop reading nonsense and start working a bit | 14:50 | |
| apachelogger | "These are the PATENTED libraries" | 14:52 |
| Riddell | if I don't apply kubuntu_56_langpacks_desktop_files.diff then meinproc works | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | one can patent whole libraries? | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | something must seriously be wrong with that patent system Oo | 14:52 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: not that I argued the whole langpacks stuff is causing maintenance overhead? :P | 14:53 |
| JontheEchidna | would an emergency upload unapplying that patch be appropriate for now? | 14:54 |
| Riddell | mm hmm | 14:54 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: well let me play around quickly and see what can be done | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | kk | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | as long as it comes back soonish :S | 14:55 |
| JontheEchidna | not like I could upload it anyways, due to wonky ACL for kubuntu-dev | 14:55 |
| JontheEchidna | a kubuntu-dev cannot upload soprano, akonadi, kde4libs or kdepimlibs | 14:55 |
| Riddell | but can upload gdm | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 14:56 |
| JontheEchidna | heh, yeah | 14:56 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Would you please reply to my mail to ubuntu-devel of a few days ago adding the additional packages that concern us? | 14:56 |
| * JontheEchidna admits he's not subscribed to ubuntu-devel and never saw the mail | 14:57 | |
| ScottK | You really should. It's not terribly high volume. | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | I've got 2502 unread mails in there... not exactly low volume either | 14:58 |
| Riddell | only 2502? you're lucky | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | >23k unread bug mails though | 14:59 |
| ScottK | kdeedu is up (finally) | 15:08 |
| Riddell | I believe that fixes our problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/337322/ | 15:09 |
| Riddell | so back to the symbols question | 15:11 |
| Tm_T | claydoh: oh, that thread was more nuts than I first thought, ouch! | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan|Szel: knew no better to write for your application | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | Tm_T: you read the whole thread? | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | oh boy | 15:18 |
| JontheEchidna | Lex79: make sure the backports get riddell's patch^ | 15:28 |
| * JontheEchidna out for a bit | 15:29 | |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: ok | 15:29 |
| Tm_T | apachelogger: yes, and I really think administrator should never do rant threads, and double-no for closing discussion when they have their said done | 15:29 |
| JontheEchidna | Lex79: thanks | 15:30 |
| Lex79 | np | 15:30 |
| Lure | apachelogger, Riddell, ScottK: if you have time to review by per-package upload request: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukaRenko/DigikamKipiPluginsApplication | 16:01 |
| * ScottK is fixing webdev. Then I'll be off most of the day. | 16:04 | |
| Quintasan | uff | 16:06 |
| Quintasan | finally | 16:06 |
| Riddell | hi Quintasan | 16:06 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: hello | 16:08 |
| skreech | Hello | 16:08 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: Hmm I forgot about libortp, I guess I shall remove it from bzr then | 16:10 |
| Quintasan | :wq | 16:10 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 16:10 |
| Lure | ScottK: no hurry, I know most of you are busy ;-) | 16:11 |
| Tm_T | hmmm, we had default browser blueprint somewhere, but I cannot find it now | 16:19 |
| Tm_T | ah, this one atleast: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/LucidPackaging | 16:23 |
| EagleScreen | hi boys | 16:24 |
| ghostcube | ehlo | 16:26 |
| ScottK | webdev fix is up, so I think we are complete. | 16:26 |
| ScottK | maco: If you want to continue on with edu, it looks like it needs two new binaries added. I put the list-missing output in bzr for reference. | 16:26 |
| skreech | edu is the only one missing currently from Lynx ? | 16:27 |
| ScottK | edu is building now. | 16:27 |
| ScottK | Just uploaded the fix to get webdev built. | 16:27 |
| ScottK | I think that's it. | 16:27 |
| ScottK | People should do upgrade testing to catch file conflicts. | 16:28 |
| EagleScreen | i am trying to build a kind of merge between konversation 1.2.1-1 from Debian with Kubuntu patches in 1.2-0ubuntu3, I find that 0003-Change-indicator-app-entry-behavior.diff cannot be applied | 16:29 |
| Lex79 | ScottK: kdepim is not uploaded yet, it's still in bzr | 16:29 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 16:30 |
| ScottK | Lex79: Is it ready? | 16:30 |
| Lex79 | yes for me | 16:30 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: ^^^ Can you do this one? I have to go. | 16:30 |
| JontheEchidna | kdepim? sure | 16:32 |
| JontheEchidna | agateau: ping | 16:36 |
| JontheEchidna | brb | 16:44 |
| agateau | JontheEchidna: pong | 16:44 |
| JontheEchidna | agateau: oh, glad I caught you | 16:44 |
| * JontheEchidna was about to reboot | 16:44 | |
| JontheEchidna | anyway, it seems that the Konversation indicator patch fails to apply with 1.2.1, and I was hoping you could take a look at it | 16:44 |
| agateau | sure, let me download the source | 16:45 |
| JontheEchidna | also, now that kdepim accepted the indicator patches, upstream says that it increases the likelihood of them accepting the patch upstream | 16:45 |
| JontheEchidna | er, konversation upstream | 16:45 |
| agateau | great! | 16:45 |
| agateau | it needs a bit more work though | 16:45 |
| agateau | but would be cool | 16:45 |
| JontheEchidna | great, thanks. I'll reboot now. ;-) | 16:46 |
| amik | JontheEchidna: just a reminder, it would be nice to have ur jockey notification changes and the activation bugfix in the alpha... | 16:52 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, yeah. thanks | 16:54 |
| JontheEchidna | amik: where is your branch again? I'll poke pitti today | 16:54 |
| amik | JontheEchidna: lp:~amichai2/jockey/fixes. actually only revision 583 is relevant, the other is superceded by your changes iirc | 16:57 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=583&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 583 | Lots of things, including Magnus's initial posting code Fixes for new mimelib Nothing really works at the moment. | 16:57 |
| amik | silly ubottu, trix are for kids | 16:57 |
| Tm_T | hi emma | 16:58 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: One more before I'm really gone ... kdenetwork needs uploaded again to drop the Universe build-dep. | 17:00 |
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| agateau | JontheEchidna: Here is a patchset which applied on upstream tar ball (didn't try with source pkg): http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/tmp/konversation-1.2.1-20091208.tar.bz2 | 17:08 |
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| === Quintasan1 is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | Hmm next meeting friday morning :/ | 17:12 |
| debfx | Riddell: I uploaded debdiffs for firefox and xulrunner to bug #494067 | 17:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 494067 in xulrunner-1.9.1 "Provide better Firefox KDE integration" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494067 | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: remove libortp-dev from debian/control in bzr | 17:18 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: I mean I removed :P | 17:18 |
| debfx | Riddell: kmozillahelper is on REVU http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kmozillahelper | 17:18 |
| Riddell | debfx: ooh great | 17:20 |
| JontheEchidna | Quintasan: k, I'll get to that after kdepim | 17:25 |
| lubyou | whats the current status of 4.4 beta packages? | 17:30 |
| tsimpson | kubuntu.org and the #kubuntu topic will be updated when packages are available | 17:30 |
| lubyou | well | 17:31 |
| lubyou | of course they will be, thought one could be a bit more specific | 17:32 |
| tsimpson | they'll be ready when they are ready, many are working on it as we speak :) | 17:34 |
| lubyou | ok whatever | 17:34 |
| * Riddell uploads qt4 and kde4libs | 17:45 | |
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| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | argh, kde4libs build failed | 18:37 |
| yofel | ups, wrong channel | 18:37 |
| debfx | ScottK: I have refreshed the brightness osd patch: http://debfx.fobos.de/kubuntu_101_brightness_fn_keys_and_osd.diff | 19:04 |
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| JontheEchidna | Woo, back in KDE | 19:12 |
| Lex79 | :) | 19:15 |
| JontheEchidna | solution: remove the offending /usr/share/locale/currency/yourlocale.desktop | 19:17 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: you about dude? | 19:24 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: kdelibs is still ftbs, I'm fixing, do you have the power for upload this package? | 19:26 |
| JontheEchidna | nope :( | 19:26 |
| Lex79 | bah :( | 19:26 |
| JontheEchidna | I can't do akonadi, soprano, kde4libs or kdepimlibs | 19:27 |
| Lex79 | ok I take note, qt too (iirc) | 19:28 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, yeah | 19:28 |
| cragdor | Hi all, Does anyone know when xrandr will support multihead nvidia setups? | 19:33 |
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| Lex79 | ScottK or Riddell, kdelibs fixed in bzr, it's still ftbs in archive, can upload please? | 19:52 |
| jussi01 | cragdor: it does? | 19:52 |
| * Lex79 out for a bit | 19:52 | |
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| cragdor | jussi01; strange it doesn't pick up my second monitor! Its been driving me nuts as kubuntu loads just one monitor on boot | 19:53 |
| jussi01 | cragdor: Ive mine setup with the nice nvidia config - have you tried that? | 19:54 |
| jussi01 | you need to run it as root so it can write to your xorg though | 19:55 |
| cragdor | jussil01, i use nvidia settings, however that can't save to xorg anymore since the xorg conf doesn't exist in karmic koala(Its auto detect at boot) | 19:56 |
| cragdor | and it still only allows twinview rather than detecting each monitor seperately. xrandr can't identy both monitors | 19:57 |
| Riddell | hi davmor2 | 19:59 |
| Riddell | davmor2: I've got a blog to write tonight | 19:59 |
| Riddell | Lex79: so what's the secret to updating the symbols file? | 20:00 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: did you get to the bottom of the xorg issue in the end, that was preventing kub alt from installing? | 20:01 |
| Riddell | davmor2: no I've not looked at that, was going to wait until kde 4.4 beta was in then worry about whether CDs built | 20:06 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: you know that alpha 1 is like thursday right ;) | 20:07 |
| Riddell | ages to go yet! | 20:07 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36597752/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.kde4libs_4%3A4.3.80-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 20:12 |
| Lex79 | at the end of buildlog see the lines starting with "-" | 20:13 |
| Lex79 | they should be removed since are missing | 20:13 |
| Lex79 | and when the line starts with "+" should be added | 20:13 |
| JontheEchidna | Lex79: uploading kdepim | 20:14 |
| Lex79 | with just "+" and not with "+#MISSING" | 20:14 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: thanks, looks good? it was a bit mess :( | 20:15 |
| Lex79 | kpilot is gone \o/ | 20:15 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: hah there's still time for you to run out of you mean ;) | 20:16 |
| JontheEchidna | Lex79: we just have to remember to add back the docs after kde4libs is fixed | 20:16 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: kdelibs is fixed with Riddell's patch? | 20:17 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 20:17 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: should we remove bilbo from the archive after 4.4 final ? now there is blogilo (which was bilbo) | 20:19 |
| JontheEchidna | we get to remove a lot of plasma-widget- packages that were merged in to KDE | 20:19 |
| JontheEchidna | It should probably go now, to prevent problems | 20:20 |
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| Riddell | Lure: I said nice things on your application | 20:30 |
| Riddell | Quintasan|Szel: where's yours again? | 20:30 |
| Lure | Riddell: you liar ;-) | 20:30 |
| * Lure checks | 20:30 | |
| Lure | Riddell: thanks | 20:31 |
| Riddell | Quintasan|Szel: done | 20:47 |
| ruphy | https://launchpad.net/~fintiminti nice way to spam, this is getting linked | 21:01 |
| Riddell | Lex79: waa | 22:11 |
| Riddell | compiled on amd64, failed on i386 | 22:11 |
| Riddell | I'm tempted just to get rid of the file, it's more hassle than its worth | 22:12 |
| maco | ruphy: oh goodness | 22:12 |
| Lex79 | Riddell: we have to check every time if it built on both arch since symbols are differents for amd64 and i386, get rid of it is the best choice I think | 22:48 |
| * JontheEchidna updates webkitkde now that we have KDE 4.4. in | 22:53 | |
| Riddell | Lex79: there must be some way that debian uses it, but I'm not convinced its worth the effort | 23:01 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: what's the policy on uploading stuff during alpha freeze? Are FTBFS fixes ok? | 23:06 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: symbols stuff helps shlibdeps discover the exact version of a library that $PACKAGE should depend on | 23:07 |
| JontheEchidna | probably part of their paranoia against libplasma becoming binary incompatible ;-) | 23:08 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: are you asking about kdelibs? I'd like to get that sorted before alpha so we can still upload it | 23:09 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: kdeplasma-addons, I uploaded a conflicts/replace fix earlier today and it failed due to a build-dep that wasn't bumped during the initial 4.3.80 upload | 23:09 |
| JontheEchidna | also kdenetwork 4.3.80-0ubuntu1 failed due to a universe build-dep. I'm also wondering if it would be appropriate to sponsor a fix for that. | 23:10 |
| Riddell | I uploaded kdenetwork not long ago | 23:12 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: go ahead on kdeplasma-addons | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, so you did | 23:13 |
| JontheEchidna | this buildlog worries me, though: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/4:4.3.80-0ubuntu3/+build/1386728/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.kdeplasma-addons_4:4.3.80-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 23:14 |
| JontheEchidna | more than just libkexiv2-7-dev aren't installable | 23:14 |
| Lex79 | JontheEchidna: needs keedu 4.3.80, new marble version | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | that would make sense | 23:15 |
| JontheEchidna | what needs done with kdeedu? | 23:15 |
| Lex79 | uhmm, kdeedu is built, maybe kdeplasma-addons is built against a lower version of kdeedu...I saw that error many times in ppa in the past | 23:18 |
| Lex79 | uhm no plasma-addons is built with libmarble-dev 4.3.80 :( | 23:22 |
| JontheEchidna | kdepim needs pushed through new queue | 23:23 |
| nixternal | woo snow! | 23:45 |
| jjesse | snow sucks, o'hare is delayed 2 hours on average | 23:45 |
| nixternal | there you are | 23:46 |
| nixternal | jjesse: it is supposed to get worse before it gets better :) | 23:46 |
| nixternal | how long have you been there? | 23:46 |
| jjesse | tell me about it, i'll be suprised if i leave tonight | 23:46 |
| jjesse | want to drive me to michigan? | 23:46 |
| nixternal | haha, can you wait until saturday? I am heading to BH with my sister | 23:47 |
| jjesse | i think my wife would kill me | 23:47 |
| nixternal | hehe | 23:47 |
| nixternal | better you than me | 23:47 |
| nixternal | I heard GR took some snow the other day | 23:47 |
| jjesse | 6 inches | 23:47 |
| jjesse | weatherman says 6 more by tomorrow evening | 23:48 |
| nixternal | yeah, weatherman said an inch, we already have that and then some in just over an hours worth of snowfall | 23:48 |
| nixternal | ok, what am I missing here...trying to build kdelibs but it is complaining about no polkit-1 so it is doing a fake backend for kauth | 23:49 |
| nixternal | i swear both polkit and polkit-1 are installed | 23:49 |
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