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luis_well kpete did work00:00
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relic420now what am i looking for?00:00
luis_but now yahoo wont connect on kopete00:00
ThundercrossI'll have to put this on my cell phone so I can remember.00:00
knueThundercross: sudo service kdm restart00:00
knuedo this in a real terminal00:00
knuenot in X00:00
relic420brb guys00:01
nicklas_yo00:05
ThundercrossAlright. I'll be back if I need any more help.00:12
ThundercrossThank you00:12
ThundercrossAlright. I didn't get any menu when I tried to reconfigure my xorg-conf.00:25
ThundercrossAnd when I tried to restart it, I got a message:00:25
Thundercrosskdm start/running, process 194100:25
ThundercrossI tried to mention that I'm in textmode for this, but I got yanked away from the computer at the time.00:26
bodomThundercross: alt+f7?00:30
ThundercrossDo hotkeys really work in textmode?00:32
knueThundercross:00:36
knuectrl+atl+f700:36
bodomThundercross: they do00:37
DaskreechThundercross: ok I think you are the only person still here who wanted help00:52
DaskreechIf anyone else wanted help holler00:52
DaskreechThundercross: What's up?00:52
ThundercrossSorry, I was afk. Okay. I'll try that.01:00
bodom!bluetooth01:01
ubottuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup01:01
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jacquesdupontdhi everybody01:15
cuznt/boot/grub/menu.lst i can not find it in 9.1001:16
ThundercrossIt didn't work.01:16
cuzntany reason?01:16
DaskreechThundercross: What's the issue?01:17
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ThundercrossEver since I upgraded to 9.10, I've been stuck in textmode. I just load Kubuntu, and it takes me straight to terminal mode.01:19
DaskreechThundercross: KDM doesn't load?01:19
ThundercrossAnd I can't get into KDE, no matter what I try (not that there's a lot of things I know to try).01:19
ThundercrossIt doesn't01:20
DaskreechDoes X work?01:20
DaskreechThundercross: You are on the machine now?01:20
bodomcuznt: is grub installed? :)01:20
ThundercrossI'm the machine, and I'm using Puppy Linux01:25
ThundercrossI have only one machine that can be used at all.01:26
ThundercrossI don't think X works.01:26
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DaskreechThundercross: can you run startx and tell me what that does01:26
ThundercrossI think I should save this Puppy Linux session so I can come back a little bit sooner.01:27
DaskreechThundercross: ok let me be clear01:27
ThundercrossSo I just type "startx"?01:27
Daskreechyou are currently talking to me on the computer that has the problems?01:27
ThundercrossYeah, but I'm on Puppy Linux01:28
ThundercrossSo I'm gonna have to log off in order to try it01:28
DaskreechOk can the computer connect to the internet without the GUI ?01:28
ThundercrossYes01:28
DaskreechSweet grab a paper and write this down01:28
DaskreechWhen you login on the command line run this01:29
Daskreechsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install irssi01:29
cuznthow could grub NOT be installed?01:29
Daskreechthen when it's done type irssi -c irc.ubuntu.com01:29
cuznti have grub.cfg01:29
Daskreechwhen you are logged in there /join #kubuntu should join you here and we can do this a lot faster01:30
Daskreechcuznt: It was asked to not be installed or explictly uninstalled01:30
ThundercrossAlright.01:30
DaskreechQuite a few reasons but point is if you want grub then install it01:30
cuzntin 9.10?01:30
Daskreechcuznt: Sure01:31
cuzntah01:31
jacquesdupontdhey01:31
jacquesdupontdi would like to record my desktop01:31
jacquesdupontdand i treid to use record my desktop but it doesn't seems to support well the twin view witth compiz but i have a really really fast computer01:32
jacquesdupontdso it should work ok01:32
jacquesdupontddo someone has a desktop recorder to advice me ?01:32
cuznti do not quite understand.. i have a fellow in irc.etree who is into linux and i am trying to recover my winxp partition.. and he asked me for /boot/grub/menu.lst01:32
macocuznt: its /boot/grub/grub.cfg then01:33
macocuznt: you're using grub2, he's thinking of grub101:33
cuzntah thank you01:33
cuznti kind of thought that01:33
macocuznt: tell him that, please, because the syntax changed and he may be a bit confused by it01:33
cuznti am right now tnx01:34
jacquesdupontdso anybody ?01:34
jacquesdupontdcan't we record desktop with vlc for example ?01:34
ThundercrossOkay. I have something I need to take care of soon, but I'll idle here.01:34
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Daskreechjacquesdupontd: I cant say with any kind of definitive say since I've never recorded my desktop but I know that most of the desktop recorindg stuff on Linux isn't met with praise for things like that01:35
Daskreechjacquesdupontd: Ah vlc that might be an option01:36
jacquesdupontdyeah01:38
jacquesdupontdbut for now01:38
jacquesdupontdi'm trying gtk-recordmydesktop and it's actually recording01:39
jacquesdupontdit seems better to set options and everything01:39
jacquesdupontdwe gonna see01:39
jacquesdupontdbut the problem is surely the dual screen01:39
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DaskreechYeah driver stuff is funky and X sucks01:42
nicklas_should add the qt gui for recordmyydesktop in repos01:43
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Daskreechnicklas_: you are packaging it?01:44
nicklas_no, but i could if i learn how01:45
nicklas_its hard?01:45
Daskreechnicklas_: Not that hard01:46
DaskreechJust sometimes a little frustrating :)01:47
DaskreechWant to try?01:47
nicklas_tomorrow :-) too late here now01:47
nicklas_where is that guide for packaging in ubuntu?01:47
Daskreechnicklas_: Ok well when you are ready join #kubuntu-devel and declare yourself as a Tomelord minon01:47
DaskreechTimelord01:48
nicklas_lol ok :-)01:48
Daskreechyou can jump in and do it now and get someone's e-mail address to shoot things at01:48
DaskreechYou won't do any work just so you have a contact01:48
nicklas_ok01:49
nicklas_but that guide has all you need?01:54
DaskreechJust about01:55
Daskreech#kubuntu-devel will help you out with issues01:55
DaskreechIt's the super cover guide01:58
cuzntis the a # for peeps who messed up their partition and now winxp will not boot?01:59
Daskreech!grub01:59
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.01:59
Daskreech!grub201:59
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub201:59
ThundercrossOkay. I'm back. And I'm on irssi. But I'm not sure how I'm gonna be able to get to the terminal without closing out of it.02:06
ThundercrossDaskreech: are you there?02:08
DaskreechThundercross: Press alt+202:08
DaskreechThundercross: ahd then alt+102:09
ThundercrossAh, okay02:09
DaskreechThundercross: Got it?02:09
Daskreechyou can login on alt+2 or 3 or 4 or 5 etc02:10
DaskreechX turns up on Alt+702:10
DaskreechLet me know when you are ready02:10
ThundercrossI only get alt+1 and alt+202:10
DaskreechYou should have alt+3 as well02:10
Thundercrossalt+1 takes me to the server window and alt+2 brings me back here.02:10
ThundercrossI don't02:10
DaskreechAh02:10
DaskreechWhat does it give you?02:11
ThundercrossNothing happens when I alt+302:11
DaskreechThundercross: Right Ha ha02:11
DaskreechThundercross: Sorry alt+Right Arrow02:11
DaskreechThen alt+Left arrow02:11
ThundercrossOh, okay02:12
Daskreechok let me know when you are ready02:12
ThundercrossI'm ready.02:12
Daskreechok log in to the second terminal and run this command sudo apt-get install pastebinit02:13
ThundercrossWoah. Workspaces on textmode. My mind is mildly blown02:13
DaskreechThen run startx02:13
DaskreechThundercross: Where do you think the GUI got it from? :)02:13
ThundercrossI see02:13
DaskreechThundercross: Oh if X starts press alt+ctrl+1 to get back here02:14
ThundercrossFatal server error: no screens found02:15
DaskreechOk nice02:15
ThundercrossI'm actually on tty2, btw02:16
DaskreechThundercross: ok wha'ts on tty1 /02:17
Daskreech>02:17
Daskreech?02:17
ThundercrossAnother logon prompt02:17
Thundercrosslogin02:17
ubottuError: You are not identified02:17
ThundercrossHeh02:17
Thundercross!startx02:17
Thundercross!pastebinit02:18
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivelent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit02:18
ThundercrossIsn't there some sort of web browser that works entirely on text?02:19
DaskreechThundercross: w3m02:21
ThundercrossHuh?02:22
DaskreechThundercross: Q to quit out of it02:22
DaskreechThundercross: w3m www.google.com02:22
ThundercrossOh, thanks.02:22
DaskreechThundercross: I Guess you have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?02:22
ThundercrossI thought I did.02:26
ThundercrossI guess it's more along the lines of resetting it when I upgraded to Karmic02:26
DaskreechThundercross: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:26
ThundercrossAlright.02:27
ThundercrossIt gave me a url02:27
DaskreechGive it back to me02:29
Thundercrosshttp://pastebin.com/f17c082be02:30
ThundercrossIt seems to be the text of xorg.conf02:31
Daskreechit is02:31
DaskreechPastebinit allows you to pastebin text from the command line so you can get help :)02:31
DaskreechWhat is your video card if you know02:32
ThundercrossA Geforce 760002:32
Daskreechok did you have any special drivers installed before?02:32
ThundercrossJust the proprietary drivers02:32
Daskreechjacquesdupontd: hows it going?02:33
DaskreechThundercross: reinstall them then02:33
ThundercrossOkay, how do I do that from textmode?02:33
Daskreechsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then press tab twice. Choose the one you had installed before02:34
DaskreechThundercross: I think they all support your card though02:35
ThundercrossIt's not giving me a menu, but a list of 3 options.02:35
ThundercrossI'll try the latest one.02:36
DaskreechThundercross: It won't give you a menu that's the options available02:36
Daskreech!tab | Thundercross02:36
ubottuThundercross: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:36
ThundercrossOkay. It said I already have the latest one.02:38
ThundercrossIt mentioned something about a manual install02:39
Daskreechok02:39
Daskreechrun sudo nvidia-xconfig02:40
ThundercrossData incomplete in xorg.conf02:40
Daskreechha funny02:40
ThundercrossDevice section "Configured Video Device" must have a driver line.02:41
ThundercrossI'm thinking this is my problem.02:41
ScuniziThundercross: I just logged on.. are you trying to install the nvidia driver downloaded from the nvidia site?02:41
ThundercrossI think it's a problem with my xorg.conf02:42
ScuniziThundercross: there is no xorg.conf anymore unless you manually created one...02:42
DaskreechScunizi: There is one. it's basic defalts02:42
ThundercrossI installed something on Windows to read my Linux partitions, and I found some incomplete husk of a xorg.conf02:42
ScuniziDaskreech: ok.. yea.. it's there. but empty02:42
DaskreechThundercross: can you do an ls of /etc/X11 and tell me if ther are multiple xorg.conf files there ?02:43
ThundercrossThere are 6 files that start with xorg.conf02:43
DaskreechThundercross: what is the newest one?02:44
DaskreechThundercross: ls -l should show you the dates02:44
Thundercrossxorg.conf without anything after it. Dated today02:45
ScuniziDaskreech: what's happening..? kernel upgrade break a manually installed nvidia binary?02:45
Daskreechor ls -t02:45
DaskreechThundercross: The one after that02:45
DaskreechScunizi: upgrading to Koala hosed X02:45
ThundercrossThe next latest is xorg.conf.2009020201514902:45
ThundercrossDated February 2nd02:45
ScuniziDaskreech: and was an nvidia binary from their site installed on Jaunty?02:46
DaskreechWoah that's a long time ago02:46
DaskreechThundercross: pastebinit02:46
ThundercrossOh, wait. It's not being sorted by date02:46
DaskreechThundercross: You can use tab to autocomplete the names btw so you don't have to type it02:46
DaskreechThundercross: ls -t02:46
DaskreechThundercross: ls -lt02:47
DaskreechScunizi: No clue I think that it's the nvidia package02:47
Thundercrossxorg.conf xorg.conf.dist-upgrade-200910300040 is dated October 30th02:48
ScuniziDaskreech: most likely.. if the binary driver was installed on jaunty then the upgrade would have broke it because of the kernel upgrade.. all that would be necessary is to re-install the binary driver to fix.. no need to mess with xrandr or xorg.. the fresh install will fill it all.. (wow that rhymed)02:48
DaskreechThundercross: ah excellent :)02:48
DaskreechThundercross:sudo  mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.irchelp02:49
ThundercrossI remember upgrading to 9.10 on the day it came out. I forgot the day of the month that was.02:49
ScuniziIf it was the binary driver, reinstallation will setup the necessary kernel modules to make it work.. where redoing an older xorg won't02:50
DaskreechThundercross: then sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dist-upgrade-200910300040 /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:50
DaskreechScunizi: he did reinstall it said newest version. Course that doesn't mean the modules loaded02:50
Daskreechbut the error he's getting is No Screens found02:51
DaskreechAssuming that Thundercross is a he02:51
ThundercrossI am a he02:51
ScuniziDaskreech: reinstall from the hardware drivers option in the menu's? or by downloading the binary from nvidia?02:51
ThundercrossI'm not sure this version of xorg.conf is good either.02:52
DaskreechScunizi: reinstall but sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-18502:52
gorgonzolahello. anyone knows if it possible to have a video chat through msn with kopete?02:52
DaskreechThundercross: Well sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then02:52
Daskreechgorgonzola: no try kmess02:52
DaskreechOr amsn02:52
ScuniziDaskreech: that would be the repo version.. the 185 driver is buggy anyway..02:52
Scunizigorgonzola: or emesen02:52
DaskreechYeah they all are02:53
* Thundercross resists urge to sudo apt-get install kmess02:53
ScuniziDaskreech: the latest 190 seems to rip pretty good.02:53
ThundercrossI didn't see a 190 on my options of compatible drivers02:53
ScuniziThundercross: you won't unless you get it from nvidia02:53
DaskreechI think that dropped support for his card02:53
ScuniziDaskreech: which card?02:54
Daskreech760002:54
ScuniziI'll look but I think it'll work fine..02:54
ThundercrossI'm seeing no improvement.02:54
DaskreechThundercross: you did the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?02:55
ThundercrossThat xorg.conf that you told me to put in it's place is from after the 9.10 upgrade, isn't it?02:55
ThundercrossI'll try that next.02:55
DaskreechThundercross: No it's from before02:56
ThundercrossIt's dated October 30th02:56
DaskreechYeah02:56
ThundercrossDidn't 9.10 come out on the 22nd or something?02:56
DaskreechLast Thursday of the month02:56
Daskreechwhichever one that is02:56
Thundercross29th02:57
Daskreech22nd doesn't sound right that's 8 days before the end of the month so there must be a thursday after that02:57
Scunizi7600 is supported by the latest driver..02:57
ThundercrossAnd I downloaded it from the repository. And it took an insanely long time because I didn't want to leave those package files sitting in cache forever, forgotten02:57
ThundercrossThat's right. I did install 9.10 on the 30th02:58
DaskreechThundercross: That makes no sense to me but ok :)02:58
DaskreechThundercross: rename xorg.conf to some backup file and rename the dstupgrade file from the 30th to xorg.conf and try startx02:59
a2fhi, i just installed system-config-printer for kde. i'm using a kde-minimal install so not everything made it over from a regular kubuntu installation cd. when i had previously installed the full kubuntu system i used to be able to choose certain kinds of printers... anyone know what package that's in?02:59
ThundercrossIsn't that what you told me to do already?03:00
ThundercrossWith the mv command?03:00
DaskreechThundercross: yep03:00
Daskreechwhat does startx say then ?03:00
ThundercrossStill the same thing.03:00
DaskreechNo Screens found ?03:01
ThundercrossYup03:01
Daskreechok pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:01
ThundercrossFor the url?03:01
Scuniziyou got more than one monito plugged into the card?03:01
Scunizi*monitor03:01
ThundercrossNo I don't03:01
DaskreechYep03:01
Thundercrosshttp://pastebin.com/f2da7d15103:02
ThundercrossI do have a Wacom Tablet, however.03:02
DaskreechThat's input not a screen03:03
Scunizithat wouldn't make a difference03:03
ThundercrossDuring my research, I read that the references to the tablet in my xorg.conf was crashing X, so removing or commenting out the lines would fix it.03:03
gorgonzolaDaskreech, thanks. but i can't get it to work with video. am i missing some button?03:03
ThundercrossThat's what led me to looking at it in Windows, and the discovery that it's so empty.03:04
DaskreechThundercross: ok try sudo nvidia-settings03:04
Daskreechgorgonzola: what is it ?03:05
ThundercrossControl Display is Undefined03:05
gorgonzolaDaskreech i don't see any setting, action, button or whatever in kmess that says "start video"03:06
gorgonzolaor similar03:06
ThundercrossHow big is the xorg.conf supposed to be? Because the largest version I have is the one that I was working with originally: 130503:07
DaskreechThundercross: try sudo nvidia-xconfig again03:07
ThundercrossDate incomplete in xorg.conf03:08
ThundercrossSomething tells me this file should be larger than 130503:08
Daskreechsudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dist-upgrade-20091030004003:09
Daskreechgorgonzola: What version is it?03:09
ThundercrossSent it back to whence it came03:10
DaskreechThundercross: after that run sudo nvidia-xconfig again03:10
Daskreechyou know you can just press up and get back the command right? :)03:11
ThundercrossI'm doing that03:11
ThundercrossUnable to locate/open X configuration file.03:11
DaskreechWhat?03:11
DaskreechIt's supposed to recreate one it can use03:12
gorgonzolaDaskreech 2.003:12
Daskreecho_O03:12
ThundercrossAutomatically?03:12
Daskreechyes03:12
ThundercrossEven though x isn't running?03:12
DaskreechYes03:12
DaskreechIt cares about the hardware you have not the Current X configuration03:13
Daskreechhe point is to reconfigure it for your hardware/driver03:13
ThundercrossOoh, I tried it again03:13
ThundercrossAnd it made a new one03:13
DaskreechYay!03:14
Daskreechtry startx03:14
Daskreechgorgonzola: Ah you need 2.1 Umm try amsn then03:14
Daskreechor listen to Scunizi03:14
gorgonzolaDaskreech :(03:15
gorgonzolaDaskreech i think i'll let it lie. emesen is not in the repo, and i don't to start adding repos or downloading external stuff. thanks for the info though.03:16
Daskreechgorgonzola: amsn should work if you have farsight203:16
gorgonzolaDaskreech don;t even know what that is03:16
Daskreechhttp://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/Farsight03:17
Thundercross_theThanks. It worked.03:17
Daskreech!find farsight03:17
ubottuFound: libgstfarsight0.10-0, libgstfarsight0.10-dbg, libgstfarsight0.10-dev, libgstfarsight0.10-doc, libtelepathy-farsight-dev (and 6 others)03:17
DaskreechThundercross: bah why was it being so difficult?03:17
djanatynHello there.03:18
djanatynI was just wondering about Kubuntu.03:18
djanatynWhat's the difference between kubuntu, and ubuntu installed with KDE?03:18
Thundercross_theBut I can't seem to get back to the other workspaces.03:19
Daskreechdjanatyn: mental gymnastics?03:19
Daskreech!kubuntu03:19
ubottuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE03:19
Daskreech!kde03:19
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde403:19
ThundercrossOh, Ctrl+Alt+F103:20
ThundercrossI see.03:20
gorgonzolaDaskreech: ok, but i think i'll live withouth video. tcl/tk, amsn... i like my kde pure. thanks!03:20
ThundercrossIt feels rather cozy stuck with irssi.03:20
Daskreechdjanatyn: if you would like tho get technical pulseaudio is installed on Ubuntu and it's not on Kubuntu03:20
DaskreechThundercross: :-) It's nice03:20
djanatyn:)03:20
ThundercrossBut I need to get back to the pretty.03:20
DaskreechYou need ctrl+Alt+ to escape X for obvious reasons03:21
DaskreechThundercross: You can use it in X just open a terminal03:21
ThundercrossYeah. Too many programs just use Alt+arrow03:21
Daskreechgorgonzola: your choice but not sure if I call that a noble choice :)03:21
ThundercrossI don't know how long I'll remember this.03:21
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Daskreechgorgonzola: YOu can vote for the webcam feature request at bugs.kde.org if you like03:22
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gorgonzolaDaskreech, ooooh, you don;t wanna go there. KDE evangelist here :P03:22
DaskreechThundercross: It changes the bindings when you are in X so it works different03:22
gorgonzolaDaskreech, i'll see what the folks over at #kopete have to say03:22
gorgonzolaDaskreech they do have a rather prominent webcam configuration module...03:22
Daskreechgorgonzola: I organised CampKDE so don't start with me. I'm just saying that being pure when it harms you is silly03:23
Daskreechgorgonzola: Yeah they really need help but protocol hacking is hard03:23
ThundercrossWell, I'm gonna have to go back to Windows pretty soon, for an MMO that doesn't run very well in Wine.03:23
Daskreechgorgonzola: I've been trying to figure out a way to get more involvement with them for a year03:24
DaskreechWhich is that?03:24
DaskreechThundercross: ^^^03:24
ThundercrossMabinogi03:24
DaskreechWow never heard of that03:24
gorgonzolaDaskreech well, i'm not *that* purist. but i really like Qt, and i really don;t like Tcl/Tk03:24
gorgonzolaDaskreech and i dont really need the video03:24
DaskreechAh I can agree there03:24
ThundercrossIt's a really nice game.03:25
ThundercrossAnd it's protected by an anti-hacking software called Hackshield Pro.03:25
Daskreechgorgonzola: If you want to it would really help to work with Kopete to get more eyes on the code03:25
a2fanyone know what the alsa dev file package is?03:26
gorgonzolaDaskreech i'd love to help, but i'd hardly be of assistance. only user over here :(03:26
DaskreechRight now my current focus is getting people to maintain the misc rubbish outside of the protocols so that people who can do that can spend more time on that03:26
ThundercrossThe publisher just went through some extensive hardware upgrades, and they're running into some serious latency/connectivity issues.03:26
Daskreechgorgonzola: A user with a mouth and determination is the best kind of user03:26
gorgonzolaDaskreech i'm a good user then :)03:26
gorgonzolaDaskreech well, i see if i can contribute to get things moving. i'm sure that webcam thingy does at least something in kopete, so maybe i just don;t know how to use it...03:27
gorgonzolaDaskreech thanks for the tips. see-ya!03:27
Daskreechgorgonzola: Well follow what you have a passion for it' what you are most likely to stick with03:27
Daskreechgorgonzola: step into #kde-promo03:27
Daskreech!info libasound2-dev | a2f Does that help ?03:28
ubottua2f: libasound2-dev (source: alsa-lib): shared library for ALSA applications -- development files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.20-3ubuntu6 (karmic), package size 494 kB, installed size 1824 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel avr32 hppa i386 ia64 lpia m32r m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh3 sh3eb sh4 sh4eb sparc all)03:28
a2fthanks daskreech :)03:28
bodomhi there03:29
bodomi got a trouble writing a logcheck rule03:29
Daskreech!HI | bodom03:29
ubottubodom: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!03:29
bodommay somebody help me?03:29
DaskreechPossibly what's the error?03:30
DaskreechThundercross: Want to see if you get KDM working03:30
Daskreech?03:30
bodomthe line is only partially ignored03:30
bodomthis is the rule: ^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} voip2\.bodom\.local .*$03:30
bodombasically, i want to exclude all lines from host voip2.bodom.local03:31
xonogenicI'm confused... what is this for?03:31
dylan__does anyone know why i can't connect to a smpt server but i can connect to a pop3 server03:31
dylan__the connection times out every time i try to connect to a smpt server to send mail03:32
bodomdylan__: firewall?03:32
dylan__nope03:32
xonogenicport settings? encryption settings?03:32
xonogeniccan you telnet to the port?03:33
dylan__i tried that the connection times out03:33
xonogenicare you using smtp auth?03:33
xonogenicoh03:33
xonogenicif a telnet connection times out, then it is either the route ( ie firewal ) or the remote server03:33
dylan__well the server is smtp.live.com03:34
dylan__i tried disabling my firewall and it doesnt help it does the same thing03:34
bodomomg03:34
xonogenicTrying 65.55.172.254...03:34
xonogenicConnected to smtp.live.com.03:34
xonogenicEscape character is '^]'.03:34
xonogenic220 BLU0-SMTP4.blu0.hotmail.com Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 6.0.3790.3959 ready at  Mon, 7 Dec 2009 19:34:17 -080003:34
ThundercrossKDM... different from X?03:34
FloodBotK3xonogenic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.03:34
ThundercrossI got into KDE03:34
xonogenicworks for me03:34
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dylan__i know that's what i've heard i can't get it to work for me though :/03:35
xonogenicok03:35
ThundercrossAnd by the way, thanks for your tremendous patience.03:35
xonogenicso lets back up a little03:35
xonogeniccan you ping it?03:35
dylan__yea03:35
dylan__i'll pastebin the telnet result in a second once it's done03:36
DaskreechThundercross: Yes it's the Login that yousee when you boot up normally03:36
xonogenicoh, does your ISP block port 25 communication?03:36
xonogenicsome ISPs do that03:36
dylan__i don't know :/03:36
bodomdylan__: why can't you use your privider's smtp?03:37
dylan__http://paste.ubuntu.com/337008/03:37
dylan__that's what it says when i telnet it03:37
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ThundercrossWell, I did an upgrade earlier. And now it's wanting to restart Kubuntu.03:37
xonogenicwho is your ISP?03:38
DaskreechThundercross: ok lets see what happens03:38
dylan__at&t yaoo03:38
ThundercrossAnd I like this blur effect when I'm about to shut down.03:38
dylan__at&t yahoo03:38
DaskreechThundercross: Yeah that's neat03:39
ThundercrossAlright. See ya later.03:39
bodomdylan__: you have to telner on port 2503:39
bodomdylan__:  telnet smtp.live.com 2503:39
xonogenicyeah, I think you are screwed dylan, it looks like ATT/yahoo do block 25 outbound03:40
dylan__x003:40
xonogenicunless you use thier smtp relays03:40
xonogenic:(03:40
dylan__i'm trying to get my email through evolution and i need to do that to send is there any way around it?03:41
xonogeniccan you connect through pop3?03:41
dylan__yea03:41
xonogenicthat might be the easiest way03:41
dylan__i can send through pop3 to?03:42
xonogenichmm03:42
xonogenicmaybe not03:42
xonogenicone sec03:42
DaskreechThundercross: Welcome03:43
ThundercrossWorking better. Sound wasn't working during the last session.03:45
ThundercrossNow it's asking to forget removed sound devices.03:45
DaskreechThundercross: Wouldn't since you didn't login with kdeinit which is started with kdm03:45
ThundercrossI see.03:46
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michaelhelp03:56
bodom!help03:56
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:56
BlueX12every app is colored grey right now, how do I install hardware(my video card drivers)?03:57
Daskreech!drivers03:58
Daskreech!nvidia03:58
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:58
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BlueX12daskreech, through run?03:58
BlueX12I don't know where to type it03:59
DaskreechBlueX12: Hmm ?04:00
BlueX12how to get to command line?04:00
DaskreechOpen a terminal04:00
Daskreechpress alt+F2 and type terminal04:00
Daskreechbrb04:01
sravanHow can I make firefox default web browser ? I m on kubuntu 9.1004:01
Daskreechsravan: Look in default applications in System settings04:01
BlueX12daskreech: !drivers or !nvidia do not do anything in terminal04:02
sravanDaskreech, : thnx , worked04:03
sravan:)04:03
BlueX12anyone know how to install basic driver?04:05
BlueX12drivers04:05
bodomrotfl04:05
BlueX12this is a support channel isn't it? :P04:06
BlueX12everyone has to start somewhere04:06
xonogenichttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:06
bodom^^^^^^ check this url04:07
BlueX12so I need to install the dependent packages before the option will even appear?04:10
BlueX12because it isn't listed anywhere in hardware or system04:10
rstob911BlueX12: also if you want the proprirtary driver there is a driver tool i think it is in system configuration04:11
BlueX12ok I typed hardware in search that seems to be doing something04:11
BlueX12ty04:12
BlueX12can't find it, oh well04:16
BlueX12the only thing that shows up in driver updates is video card..there's no way to update network card etc or is that already defaulted to the newest one04:16
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snarksterNeed help getting my wifi working04:40
snarksterits a toshiba p305d-s8828 with atheros 500104:42
ThundercrossWell, I gotta go back to Windows. Some other time, Maybe at the end of my Christmas vacation, I'd like to take a shot at getting this game running under WINE.04:44
snarksterwhat game04:44
ThundercrossThe game I mentioned earlier, Mabinogi04:44
snarksteroh wasnt here earlier04:44
snarkster!atheros04:46
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:46
snarksterthe thing is it sees my network but wont connect.04:46
ThundercrossWell, I'm probably gonna idle on here while I'm on Windows. See ya04:51
snarksteris knetworkmanager not working?04:51
BlueXmy taskbar crashed and even restarting won't bring it back..how to get it back?05:23
sravandeleting ~/.xine/catalog.cache and rebooting the system did solve the problem for me05:35
sravanas mentioned in the link ...... :)05:36
BlueXwhat link05:36
BlueXnever mind05:37
BlueXsupersub05:38
BlueXdo you have kubuntu knowhow?05:38
SuperSubhi can some help me with the setup of flash for mozilla..  was working before ugrade to 9.10KK05:38
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SuperSubhi can some help me with the setup of flash for mozilla..  was working before ugrade to 9.10KK05:45
darkdelusionsSuperSub: did you go do adobe.com and grab the deb file?05:46
SuperSubyes but it failed..05:47
darkdelusionswhat was the error?05:47
SuperSubgime a sec to do it again..05:47
SuperSubcannot recreate error message this time it said it was installed but when i test mozilla i still can not watch youtube videos...05:50
darkdelusionsand you closed FF and reopened it?05:50
SuperSubi didnt have it running during the install05:51
SuperSubthis is what it says in mozilla05:52
SuperSubHello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.05:52
darkdelusionsI think i an issue with it and I am trying to recall what I did05:53
darkdelusionserrr05:53
darkdelusionsI think i had an issue even05:53
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SuperSubgoing to reboot system back in 505:55
SuperSubim back05:58
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darkdelusionsdo me a fav go into a konsole05:59
SuperSubwhere do i find Konsole?06:00
darkdelusionsand type sudo apt-get pruge adobe-flashplugin06:00
SuperSubE: Invalid operation pruge06:01
darkdelusionsi miss spelled purge06:01
darkdelusionsrofl06:01
darkdelusionssudo apt-get purge adobe-flashplugin06:01
SuperSubE: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.06:01
darkdelusionsok06:02
macoits in the partner repo06:02
darkdelusionsThe install from the adobe site didnt work for you06:02
darkdelusionsfor some reason06:02
darkdelusionsthat what I was triyng to figure out06:03
SuperSubi installed this package install_flash_player_10_linux.deb06:03
darkdelusionsDid you download it and then open it06:03
darkdelusionsor did you tell it to run06:03
SuperSubyep06:03
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darkdelusions.....06:04
SuperSubshould i try it again?06:04
darkdelusionsgo into kpackage manager06:05
darkdelusionsand do a search fro flash06:05
SuperSubare you saying synaptic package manager?06:05
darkdelusionsyou using 9.10?06:06
SuperSubyep06:06
darkdelusionsjust go up to the search box06:06
darkdelusionsand type in kpack06:06
darkdelusionsand it will come up06:06
darkdelusionsthe seach box in the kmenu sorry06:07
darkdelusionsTonight is not the night for me to try and explain things it seems06:07
rochassalut06:09
SuperSubdoes not look like its installed06:09
rochasl06:09
darkdelusionsdownload the deb from adobe one more time06:11
egofluxis there a package that has all the whois, ssh, finger, and other networking tools at the same time?06:11
SuperSubok doing right now..06:11
SuperSubdeb is for 8.04 is that ok?06:12
darkdelusionsthats the one I used06:13
SuperSubdone06:13
darkdelusionsno go into the download older and open it06:14
SuperSubpackage installer is running06:14
darkdelusionsk06:14
darkdelusionsmake sure you closed out of kpackagekit06:15
SuperSuberror could not open install_flash_player_10_linux.deb  package may be corrupt...06:15
darkdelusionsTHis should make life ezer06:16
darkdelusionsdo u still have a konsoleopen?06:16
SuperSubone sec06:16
SuperSubone sec06:17
SuperSubok06:17
darkdelusionsLoading Please Wait......06:17
SuperSubready06:17
darkdelusionstype in sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras06:17
darkdelusionserr06:17
darkdelusionswait06:17
SuperSubok06:17
darkdelusionssudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras06:17
darkdelusionssorry wanted to get you the kde package not that there is much differnce06:18
SuperSub$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras06:18
SuperSubReading package lists... Done06:18
SuperSubBuilding dependency tree06:18
SuperSubReading state information... Done06:18
SuperSubE: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.06:18
FloodBotK3SuperSub: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.06:18
SuperSubadministrator@ZUES:~$06:18
darkdelusionsSuperSub: at the konsole window06:19
darkdelusionstype06:19
darkdelusionsdpkg --purge adobe-flashplugin06:20
SuperSubok sorry06:20
darkdelusionsI am gonna go smoke i will brb06:20
SuperSubk06:20
SuperSubcheck the output.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/337059/06:21
darkdelusionsYou left out the d06:23
darkdelusionsit dpkg --purge adobe-flashplugin06:23
SuperSubhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/337060/06:24
SuperSubstill no go..06:25
darkdelusionsSuperSub: give me a sec06:27
darkdelusionsI am looking06:27
SuperSubok06:28
darkdelusionstry the following06:30
darkdelusionshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/337063/06:30
SuperSubline 1 did not work but the other s did ok06:32
darkdelusionsok06:32
darkdelusionsnow try06:32
darkdelusionssudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras06:32
darkdelusionstell me if you get the same apt error06:33
* darkdelusions crosses fingers06:33
SuperSubcan find archieve06:33
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SuperSubhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/337065/06:34
darkdelusionsdoes sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree work for you06:34
darkdelusionsif not your missing a repo06:34
SuperSublet em try06:34
darkdelusionssigh06:35
darkdelusionsits still giving u the adobe error06:35
SuperSubstill get the message package adobe flsash plugin needs to be re-installed.06:35
darkdelusionsand the lines i pasted you earlier didnt work06:36
darkdelusions?06:36
darkdelusionssudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.prerm06:36
darkdelusions?06:36
SuperSub1st did not work the other 2 did ok..06:36
darkdelusionswhat the output of the rm line?06:36
SuperSubcannot remove `/var/lib/dpkg/info/flashplugin-nonfree.prerm': No such file or directory06:37
darkdelusionsI gave you the wrong line06:37
darkdelusionsthats why06:37
SuperSubok06:37
noaXesshow can i stop kdm from automatic start on system start?06:38
darkdelusionsSuperSub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337070/06:41
SuperSubsee output.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/337071/\06:42
SuperSubhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/337071/06:42
darkdelusionsSuperSub: type the following06:47
darkdelusionssudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm06:47
darkdelusionsthen run the 2 commands agian06:47
darkdelusionsthat I gave u in your paste bind06:47
darkdelusionserrr06:47
darkdelusionsbin06:47
FloodBotK3darkdelusions: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.06:47
SuperSubhey thanks for the help but i will need to continue another time...06:49
darkdelusionsfok06:49
darkdelusionsok06:49
SuperSubcheers appreciate your assistance..06:49
darkdelusionsnp06:49
SuperSubif you on later maybe we can continue..06:49
BlueX12anyone here?06:59
shadeslayerBlueX12: yo06:59
BlueX12once I have installed an application, where do I find it?06:59
shadeslayerBlueX12: depends on the app... whats the app?06:59
BlueX12I installed new stuff from the package manager but it isn't in favorites or its k menu catagory06:59
BlueX12irc clients06:59
shadeslayerlike?06:59
BlueX12perl irc client07:00
BlueX12sirc07:00
shadeslayerBlueX12: that would be a cli app i thinl07:00
shadeslayer*think07:00
BlueX12where ar ethose07:01
SuperSubhey darkdelusions07:01
BlueX12even ircii didn't show up07:01
shadeslayerBlueX12: press alt+F2 > konsole > type "sirc" without the " > press enter07:01
SuperSubmy system time is wrong ihave another 1hr07:01
SuperSubi just re-installed the deb package again and this time it worked but I know have another problem... no sound..07:02
BlueX12is there one that isn't through terminal?07:02
shadeslayerBlueX12: quassel07:02
BlueX12quassel is broken07:03
BlueX12broke in under an hour of using it07:03
shadeslayerBlueX12: broken?07:03
BlueX12nothing I type shows up and no nicknames show up anymore07:03
BlueX12but I can see people talking07:03
noaXess!mp307:03
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:03
darkdelusionsSuperSub: that one is an ez thing to fix07:03
darkdelusionswell mabye07:04
darkdelusionsgo into kmix07:04
SuperSubsweet07:04
darkdelusionsclick on mixer07:04
SuperSubhave alsa mixer07:04
darkdelusionsclick on the the speaker07:05
BlueX12can kubuntu use wine?07:05
BlueX12maybe I should just use icechat irc07:05
SuperSubok07:05
BlueX12I must say that kubuntu is pretty buggy07:05
BlueX12crashed and irc stopped working in under an hour07:05
darkdelusionsand look for pcm (in my mixer its the 3 one over)07:06
darkdelusionsturn it up07:06
BlueX12can someone recommend a gui irc client other than quassel?07:07
SuperSubtesting07:07
SuperSubstill no sound07:07
SuperSubany ideas...07:11
r00t_ninja_whats the problem?07:12
shadeslayerBlueX12: theres also pidgin07:13
shadeslayerBlueX12: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat << Quite good07:14
darkdelusionsBlueX12: I like Konversation07:17
SuperSubhey i tried my brother login and the sound works fine..07:17
r00t_ninja_make sure all the right channells are unmuted in kmixer07:18
rfgergrthnre:o)07:20
SuperSubstill no sound...07:20
rfgergrthnreI tried installing Kubuntu 9.10 dualbooting with Windows 7 Home Basic, but the grub bootloader doesn't show when I boot up07:21
r00t_ninja_SuperSub: try testing different devices in the multimedia section in system settings07:22
rfgergrthnrehello?07:23
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: so it boots kubuntu but not windows correct?07:28
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, no, windows boots great, but the grub bootloader doesn't even show07:28
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: ah.. edit /etc/default/grub then07:29
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, er, how can I get there when linux doesn't even load?07:29
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: oh you mean linux doesnt boot but windows does?07:30
rfgergrthnreYes07:30
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: do you have a bootable CD?07:30
rfgergrthnreYeah, that's how I installed Kubuntu07:31
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: ok,boot the cd and then (write this down :P )07:31
rfgergrthnre:op07:32
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: sudo fdisk -l (to check the disk name)07:32
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: bleh... got a link for you,just a sec07:33
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD07:33
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, that's greek to me07:35
rfgergrthnrebut it's linux; i shouldn't expect anything more07:35
rfgergrthnrei don't even know how to open a terminal07:36
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: actually thats all english :P,just follow the wiki,and the listed commands :)07:36
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: in kubuntu press alt+F2 and type konsole and hit enter07:36
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, "open up a terminal" - how the hell do I do that?07:36
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, I'm in LIVE CD07:37
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: now you know how :)07:37
rfgergrthnreNOT KUBUNTU07:37
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: eh?07:37
Daskreechrfgergrthnre: Which live CD ?07:37
shadeslayerDaskreech: he said he had a live cd,thats how he installed kubuntu07:39
rfgergrthnrei don't understand a word of that guide07:44
rfgergrthnrei don't understand chroot07:44
rfgergrthnrei don't understand which partition to look for07:44
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rfgergrthnrethis is all greek to me07:46
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: ok well help you with every step,ok?07:47
r00t_ninja_are we tring to fix grub?07:48
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: yep07:48
r00t_ninja_he cant boot into windows right?07:48
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: he cant boot kubuntu07:48
rfgergrthnreno, windows works great07:48
r00t_ninja_oh ok07:49
rfgergrthnrelinux is the hassle, as usual07:49
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: actually its not...07:49
r00t_ninja_^07:49
rfgergrthnreif i try to run chroot is says cannot run command07:49
r00t_ninja_windows likes to completly destroy all other bootloaders07:49
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: i completely agree07:49
rfgergrthnrei installed windows first then kubuntu, r00t_ninja07:49
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: did you install the bootloader as well?07:50
rfgergrthnrehow do i do that?07:50
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: well if you didnt change any settings it should have been installed by default07:50
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, it wasn't07:51
r00t_ninja_just boot off the live cd and run grub-install07:51
rfgergrthnrecan i manually install it?07:51
r00t_ninja_yes07:51
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: yep,as r00t_ninja_ said07:52
rfgergrthnrehow?07:52
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: sudo grub-install /dev/sdaX where X is your drive no.07:52
shadeslayer(X is determined by sudo fdisk -l)07:53
r00t_ninja_boot off the livecd and run the command "sudo grub-insta"ll /dev/sda07:53
r00t_ninja_boot off the livecd and run the command "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"07:53
r00t_ninja_shadeslayer: that wont install to the mbr'07:53
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: ah your right,brb in a few mins07:53
r00t_ninja_rfgergrthnre: boot off the livecd and come onto this irc07:54
r00t_ninja_we can step you through07:54
r00t_ninja_rfgergrthnre: you there?07:55
rfgergrthnreno luck07:56
r00t_ninja_?07:56
rfgergrthnreauto-detection of a file system module failed07:56
r00t_ninja_when you ran  "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" ?07:57
rfgergrthnreyes07:57
r00t_ninja_what about " grub-install --recheck /dev/sda"07:59
r00t_ninja_what about "sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda"07:59
r00t_ninja_rfgergrthnre: you there?08:01
Orion777is there a way to adjust color/brightness settings etc in kubuntu?08:04
rfgergrthnrer00t_ninja, same error08:04
r00t_ninja_so is the windows boot loader the only one available?08:05
r00t_ninja_theres nothing to do with grub?08:05
rfgergrthnreyea08:06
rfgergrthnreit can see the partition in windows08:06
r00t_ninja_its wierd that grub didint install08:06
rfgergrthnredoesnt recognize the file system but it sees it08:06
rfgergrthnreits obviously a bug08:06
rfgergrthnreforget it; linux sucks08:06
Orion777you're using kubuntu?08:07
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: not for me08:07
Orion777rfgergrthnre, you're using kubuntu?08:07
rfgergrthnreOrion777, ya08:07
Orion777its buggy, there are more reliable releases08:08
r00t_ninja_the only other thing i can think of is grub is installed and windows is the default boot option , try pressing esc during your boot to see if you can get to a menu that lists all options08:08
r00t_ninja_or maybe your hd is a different device08:09
r00t_ninja_"grub-install --recheck /dev/hda"08:10
Orion777r00t_ninja, you've got skillz08:11
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: run sudo fdisk -l first and tell us the first line of the list08:11
r00t_ninja_?08:11
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: best way to tell what device he has08:11
r00t_ninja_i was talking to orion08:12
shadeslayerah08:12
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: like mine has : Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes08:12
rfgergrthnrenot interested08:13
Orion777shadeslayer, is there a way to change brightness/contrast/color settings?08:13
rfgergrthnrei've been trying for 3 days to get it working08:13
rfgergrthnrewhen a system wont even start up after 3 days of constant trying, it tells me said system is a piece of rubbish08:13
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: well its up to you... if it didnt work for you,too bad08:14
shadeslayerOrion777: desktop or laptop?08:14
Orion777laptop08:14
Orion777I can raise brightness from laptop but my card has digital vibrance and stuff and I dont know how to use it in kubuntu08:15
shadeslayerOrion777: what card? nvidia or ati?08:15
r00t_ninja_^08:15
Orion777nvidia08:15
r00t_ninja_do you have the nvidia drivers?08:15
ghostcubenvidia-settings should be ok for extra settings08:15
shadeslayerOrion777: ok,do you have the restricted drivers?08:15
shadeslayerghostcube: yep08:15
Orion777well I used the hardware driver detect thing08:16
ghostcubeOrion777: open konsole08:16
shadeslayerOrion777: yeah,you activated the drivers right?08:16
Orion777yes08:16
ghostcubeand test nvidia-settings08:16
r00t_ninja_press alt-f208:16
r00t_ninja_and type08:16
r00t_ninja_kdesudo nvidia-settings08:16
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: no need for sudo08:16
ghostcuber00t_ninjafirst time start maybe better without sudo08:16
ghostcubeso he didnt kill its xorg08:16
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, sorry but i work and i need a pc that functions, not a pc that's a hacker's toys and requires endless tweaking to do even basic tasks08:16
r00t_ninja_you cant save xorg settings tho without it08:16
ghostcuber00t_ninja yeah thats wanted08:17
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: i didnt even tweak a thing on my PC08:17
ghostcubedont ever get used to sudo in the first time use of an prog08:17
r00t_ninja_wrong tab ;)08:17
ghostcubeif not really needed08:17
ghostcube<< tab moron08:17
ghostcube:D08:17
r00t_ninja_-.-08:17
ghostcubeand 9 am here08:17
ghostcubeso iam still a bit tired08:18
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: if you will co operate with us for 10 mins you will probably get kubuntu working08:19
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: its not a problem with the OS but with windows bootloader itself08:20
ghostcubeoh dualboot win7 karmic ?08:20
shadeslayerghostcube: yep08:20
ghostcubedamn in german c't was an big story how to do it08:20
rfgergrthnreyeah every problem is ms according to u guys08:20
ghostcubei havent got it in the office now08:20
rfgergrthnrethe thought that it could be linux is unthinkable08:21
ghostcuberfgergrthnre: its definetly the boot loader of ms08:21
ghostcubeand it is not only us here noticing this08:21
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: well yeah,its a genuine problem08:21
macorfgergrthnre: make grub your default boot loader, and you're good08:21
ghostcubemaco: ++ cookie08:21
ghostcube:)08:21
shadeslayerhehe..08:22
macoyeah, ms likes to have a monopoly on the system. oh well. lucky we have our own tools08:22
Orion777holy crap, changing the invidia settings helped alot thank you08:22
macoand they work!08:22
ghostcubeOrion777: no prob08:22
ghostcubebut to get it working on every start you have to take a look into the nvidia pages i think08:22
ghostcubemaco: any news for jackd to main08:22
ghostcubei heared youre audio guru now08:23
macoghostcube: no idea08:23
ghostcubeheh08:23
ghostcubeok08:23
rfgergrthnremaco, how?08:23
macoghostcube: for kubuntu, ive been voluntelled. dtchen is still overall audio guru. i suppose with archive reorg that jack will go into the mythbuntu set though08:23
ghostcubeah ok :)08:23
macorfgergrthnre: should be able to install it from a live cd08:24
ghostcubebut this sounds good ma08:24
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: like we told you,we first need the first line of : sudo fdisk -l : from a konsole08:24
ghostcubeco08:24
ghostcubedamn tabbning08:24
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, give me a mo08:25
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: sure :)08:25
ghostcuberfgergrthnre: you first installed win7 than karmic08:25
ghostcubewith grub2 as loader ?08:25
shadeslayerghostcube: thats what he said...08:25
rfgergrthnrei just followed the install instructions08:26
luuxhi08:26
r00t_ninja_if you want to repair you boot loader download and burn http://prdownload.berlios.de/supergrub/grub-rescue-cdrom.iso to a cd08:26
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: btw from personal experience,i havent opened windows for the past 2 months :)08:26
ghostcuberfgergrthnre: just reinstall grub08:26
ghostcubeand do an grub update after reboot08:26
luuxhow to make jack default sound system08:26
rfgergrthnrer00t_ninja, no thanks, don't want more linux junk08:27
ghostcubeluux: you need an ppa08:27
ghostcubemoment pls08:27
shadeslayerghostcube: thats what were helping him with,hes new to this08:27
luuxwhich one?08:27
rfgergrthnrer00t_ninja, if it's linux-based, it'll no doubt destroy my system08:27
luuxin gentoo jack shows up in system settings of kde408:27
macothis is what worked for me08:27
macohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/331433/08:27
ghostcubeluux: i have it08:27
macoreplacing /media/blahblah with your drive mounted from the live cd08:27
luuxso the whole kde uses it.08:28
r00t_ninja_wait , you can boot into windows right?08:28
macoand well instead of /dev/sdb probably /dev/sda since im guessing you have only one drive08:28
ghostcubeluux: http://ppa.launchpad.net/motin/until-jack-is-included-in-main/ubuntu08:28
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: yep he can08:28
ghostcubeand you need an asoundrc luux08:28
r00t_ninja_just get this then: http://download.cnet.com/Auto-Super-Grub-Disk/3000-2094_4-10829335.html08:28
macorfgergrthnre: well your options are dont use linux at all or use grub because ntldr wont boot non-windows OSes. your choice.08:29
ghostcubeluux: i have an updated jackd ppa too08:29
ghostcubeworks very well08:29
ghostcubeiam using it since month now08:29
luuxthanks08:29
rfgergrthnrebrb08:29
ghostcubeluux: https://launchpad.net/~frasten/+archive/ppa08:30
ubuntuI'm back08:32
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rssadfawhat do u want me to do?08:32
r00t_ninja_your on the livecd?08:33
rssadfayeah08:33
r00t_ninja_open up a terminal08:33
r00t_ninja_and type08:33
r00t_ninja_fdisk -l08:33
rssadfak08:33
shadeslayerrssadfa: make that sudo fdisk -l08:33
r00t_ninja_^08:34
r00t_ninja_put the output here: http://pastebin.com/08:34
shadeslayerrssadfa: done?08:36
rssadfawait08:36
shadeslayerrssadfa: sure... just copy and paste :)08:37
rssadfashadeslayer: http://pastebin.com/d743f2b9b08:37
shadeslayerrssadfa: ok now type : sudo grub-install /dev/sda08:38
shadeslayeroh he has 2 drives..08:39
rssadfayeah08:39
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: what do you think? sda or sdb?08:39
shadeslayerrssadfa: just a sev08:39
rssadfai wanna put the bootloader on the 80gig08:39
shadeslayer*sec08:39
r00t_ninja_sda08:39
shadeslayerrssadfa: we need the bootloader on sda,since thats the primary drive08:40
r00t_ninja_wait08:40
r00t_ninja_no08:40
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: ?08:40
r00t_ninja_hes got linux on sdb08:40
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: yeah08:40
r00t_ninja_its not a grub problem08:40
r00t_ninja_because its on that drive08:40
r00t_ninja_he needs to choose to boot from that in his bios options08:41
shadeslayer r00t_ninja_ ah..08:41
rssadfak08:41
rssadfalemme try08:41
r00t_ninja_rssadfa: when you boot up try pressing f1208:41
rssadfaquit08:41
r00t_ninja_im guessing /dev/sda was his primary boot device08:42
shadeslayerr00t_ninja_: yeah me too08:42
rfgergrthnrenope08:47
rfgergrthnredidn't work08:47
rfgergrthnreit stalls at GRUB08:47
rfgergrthnrethe word GRUB appears and it parks08:47
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: whats the exact error message?08:47
rfgergrthnrethanks guys, u meant well08:47
rfgergrthnrebut really, i'm finished08:47
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, there is none08:47
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, it just stalls at GRUB08:47
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: oh well....08:48
rfgergrthnrewhat a piece of junk08:48
rfgergrthnrei guess u get what u pay for08:48
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: please,it didnt work for you but it works for us08:48
macorfgergrthnre: can you hit esc to get into the menu?08:48
rfgergrthnremaco, no08:48
macorfgergrthnre: did you try?08:48
rfgergrthnremaco, yes08:48
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, not just me; ive spoken to dozens of folks who have issues with it08:49
macodunno what to tell you. works for several million other folks :-/08:49
rfgergrthnreshadeslayer, look on the forums; millions have the same problems08:49
rfgergrthnrelinux is broken and buggy; sorry u cant accept it08:49
Orion777why doesn't he just reformat hd with two partitions, install kubuntu in one and win 7 in the other? that's what I did08:50
Orion777works fine08:50
Mamarokmillions? rfgergrthnre, please don't exaggerate :)08:51
shadeslayerMamarok: its a lost cause :(08:51
Orion777is he trying to get it to install or something else?08:51
r00t_ninja!ot08:51
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:51
macoprobably something we could debug in person but its hard online08:51
rfgergrthnreOrion777, i tried that previously, same problem08:51
macorfgergrthnre: is there an ubuntu loco team near you?08:51
rfgergrthnreOrion777, thats why i partitioned08:51
rfgergrthnremaco, i had an experience with a fellow named marek (www.marek.co.za)08:52
macothe logical alternative to avoid grub, i think, would be to use wubi08:52
r00t_ninjasomething probably got messed up in all our attempts to repair something nit broken08:52
Orion777what I did was had win 7, used euseus partition manager to create a second partition, booted up with kubuntu disk, chose the second partition in advanced(manual) partition section08:52
rfgergrthnreit was horrible maco08:53
rfgergrthnrehe was rude and condescending08:53
Orion777then formatted it as ext4 and chose it as installation location08:53
macorfgergrthnre: i'm sorry. thats NOT how people are supposed to act in this community08:53
rfgergrthnrei dont see why i need to struggle with a clunky, buggy os and then have to take abuse from its cultists08:54
macorfgergrthnre: i see .co.za  are you in south africa?08:54
Orion777lol08:54
dihaeany news of the kde 4.4 beta 1 packages?08:54
macodihae: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging08:54
r00t_ninjarfgergrthnre: My suggestion if you want to try again is install again exactly the same way you did before08:54
fantomeslt ts08:54
rfgergrthnrehow do i get rid of the ext4 partitions?08:55
luuxrfgergrthnre: delet m$$$ shit install kubuntu, problem solved.08:55
shadeslayerrfgergrthnre: format them from windows partition manager08:55
shadeslayerluux: heh08:55
luuxm$$ suck anyways.08:55
macorfgergrthnre: if you're in south africa, http://wiki.ubuntu-za.org/Wiki_Home08:55
r00t_ninja!ot08:55
macoluux: stop that08:55
macoluux: 1) rfgergrthnre's issue is with grub08:55
macoluux: 2) thats not how you spell microsoft08:56
shadeslayeryessss.... their in staging :D08:56
macoluux: 3) no saying the s word08:56
macoluux: 4) you're behaving trollishly08:56
dihaemaco: thanks, though it looks like it's still going to take a while08:56
luuxyawn08:56
macoluux: that is not how you welcome a new user, particularly one who is extremely frustrated with linux08:57
macoluux: better behaviour is expected08:57
shadeslayermaco: so packaging will be probably finished by today i guess?08:58
maco!guidelines | in case nobody's clear on the expected behaviour in this and all *buntu channels08:58
ubottuin case nobody's clear on the expected behaviour in this and all *buntu channels: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:58
macoshadeslayer: i guess? i spent 3 days on kdeedu and finally handed off to ScottK08:59
macomarek_: did you talk to someone who goes by rfgergrthnre about kubuntu?08:59
shadeslayermaco: hehe.. its hard being a ninja :)08:59
shadeslayermaco: i did why?08:59
macoshadeslayer: not you, marek. rf<tab> said something about marek09:00
shadeslayermaco: ah ok09:00
Orion777why does hardware driver detection only pick up video card drivers?09:08
shadeslayerOrion777: because its meant only for video cards09:09
Orion777what works for network card etc?09:09
Orion777or is that already current09:09
shadeslayerOrion777: its auto detected by kernel modules09:09
r00t_ninjaHardware Drivers is only for proprietary drivers09:10
Orion777k09:11
Orion777you guys tried kmyfirewall?09:27
Orion777I remember in an older ubuntu there was something called simple firewall, I can't seem to find it09:27
Orion777is a firewall built into kubuntu by default?09:27
r00t_ninjaiptables comes by default09:28
Orion777is it active by default?09:28
Orion777how do I check its status09:28
Orion777or activate it09:28
||arifaXHi, where can I find my recycle bin?09:29
r00t_ninjafirestarter is a good gui for iptables09:29
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Orion777arifax, utilities/dolphin file manager, trash09:29
tsimpson||arifaX: open dolphin or konqueror and go to trash:/09:30
||arifaXOrion777: is there no longer an icon somewhere?09:30
r00t_ninja||arifaX: there is also a plasma widget for it09:30
r00t_ninjaunlock your widgets , click add widget and search trasg09:30
r00t_ninjaunlock your widgets , click add widget and search trash09:30
||arifaXwhat is it called ? I searched    aptitude search recycl and nothing found ahhh should search for trash09:30
`Thor does anyone know how to set up konversation to automatically authenticate upon connection to gamesurge?09:31
||arifaXit finds trashapplet09:31
r00t_ninjathats the one09:31
r00t_ninja`Thor: edit your identity09:31
||arifaXr00t_ninja: btw it has no description <- bad bad bad09:31
||arifaXr00t_ninja: oh and it wants to add the gnome environment < -no no no09:32
||arifaXr00t_ninja: we need something different09:32
r00t_ninjammm09:32
r00t_ninjatry guarddog09:33
tsimpson||arifaX: right click the desktop, choose "Add Widgets" and search for "delete", it should show the widget09:34
tsimpsonyou can drag it to the panel or put it on the desktop09:34
||arifaXtsimpson: got it - thanks a lot - it was so easy. classical "error between the headphones"09:36
macoOrion777: ubuntu includes iptables in an unconfigured state. unconfigured because with no services listening, its no different than dropping all anyway. ufw ("uncomplicated firewall") is a command line wrapper for it, and i know in ubuntu there's a frontend for it called gufw that seems nice (and, unlike firestarter, is actually maintained)09:37
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Orion777how do I find it for kubuntu?09:38
macoall the same repositories, so in the package manager as you would anything else09:38
macoufw is installed by default, i believe09:38
macoit has such difficult commands as "sudo ufw allow daap" :P09:39
r00t_ninjaguarddog is a nice gui for kde09:39
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macor00t_ninja: i found guarddog impossible to use. and i got into a "oh god cant get online to find out what i did wrong!" state09:39
Orion777firestarter seems to be working09:40
ghostcubehmm best is pccop router or an nat router09:40
ghostcubeno need for an internal fw on an linux client09:40
ghostcubeipcop09:40
ghostcubeo.O09:40
Orion777ghostcube, you're saying I don't need a firewall?09:41
ghostcubewhy should you09:41
ghostcubedont you use an router or so ?09:41
macoOrion777: if you're already behind a firewall and you trust everything inside your lan, no09:41
Orion777yes09:41
r00t_ninjaall ports are closed and have nothing listening on them by default09:41
macor00t_ninja: "open but nothing listening" actually...09:41
ghostcubeso i wont slow down my own client if using an nat router09:41
Orion777kmyfirewall ran some script and I wonder if it changed the settings..how would I reset them09:42
macor00t_ninja: check your "sudo iptables -L" ...it's ALLOW09:42
ghostcubestatefull and stateless is different09:42
ghostcube;)09:42
r00t_ninjamy bad09:42
ghostcubebut Orion777 i wouldnt use fw direct on the client if you have an old pc with less power you can just use it as an ipcop firewall09:43
macoOrion777: if you dont have any services running, you can just plain not use a firewall09:45
macoOrion777: because a service needs to be listening in order for a connection to be established09:45
Orion777I dont know what services I have running09:46
ghostcubeif you dont installed any apache or so it should only be port 53 thats listening09:46
ghostcube:D09:46
macoOrion777: have you installed an ssh server, database, web server, or mail server?09:46
Orion777no09:46
macoOrion777: then probably none, since kubuntu comes with none09:46
ghostcubeso nothing to keep safe09:46
Orion777how do I reset my iptable settings?09:47
r00t_ninjaim off to sleep g'night09:48
a2fhi, just wondering if ubuntu supports make.conf... can't find one09:51
a2fnever mind09:52
ilan_hello10:12
Orion777hi ilan10:12
ilan_i've got eepc10:12
Orion777cool, I'm thinking of getting one of those10:13
ilan_and i installed ubuntu9.1010:13
ilan_i had before 9.0410:13
ilan_and everything worked great10:13
Orion777yes?10:14
ilan_then i upgraded to 9.1010:14
Orion777well, what do you think?10:14
ilan_suddenly it wont detect my sound card10:15
ilan_i hear very low volume10:15
Orion777hmm, from what I understand 9.04 is still more reliable10:15
Orion777stable etc10:15
Orion777brb10:15
ilan_you know how can i downgrade to 9.04?10:16
Vroomfondle!downgrade10:16
ubottuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.10:16
ilan_ouch10:16
Vroomfondlebasically: it almost certainly won't work10:16
Vroomfondlethe best option is to reinstall10:16
ilan_you know of any way i can fix it?10:16
ilan_everything is great except for the sound card10:17
ilan_faster etc..10:17
Vroomfondlesorry, I don't have an eepc10:17
ilan_i see10:17
ilan_thx anywasy10:17
ilan_know by chance where i should ask for help?10:19
Vroomfondleilan_: try #alsa? It might be an ALSA-related problem10:20
Vroomfondleor ##alsa... I forget10:20
Orion777ilan, there is more help in #ubuntu10:23
Orion777heh10:23
bodomis there a way to install libreetype-32bit on my 64-bit kubuntu?10:25
MadAGuone question: any ppa for kde 4.4?10:39
tsimpsonMadAGu: it's on it's way10:39
MadAGua great i am very anxious about it....  thanks tsimpson10:39
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borja_sghi everybody10:55
pog1Hello, does anyone know why 'dolphin shows me sometimes partitions (NTFS and FAT32) Double? 9:10 I have a kubuntu with kde 4.3.410:58
Orion777pog1, how did you upgrade to kde 4.3.4?11:01
pog1Hello Orion777, I made a "new" installation11:04
Orion777but I am using kubuntu 9.1011:06
Orion777it comes with 4.3.211:06
pog1and sometimes when I reboot the partitions are doubled (eg DATA 1 ... DATA 1; WINDOWS... WINDOWS; DATA 2... DATA 2)11:06
pog1I did the upgrade KDE 4.3.4 As explained on www.kubuntu.org11:10
gb11:15
gb이게머11:15
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Orion777I still don't understand how to do it11:15
MamarokGuest16029: English, please11:15
Guest16029i see11:15
Orion777mamarok, how do I upgrade my kde version?11:15
shadeslayerOrion777: watcha trying to do?11:15
MamarokOrion777: see the channel topic11:16
shadeslayerOrion777: which version do you want?11:16
Guest16029how can i install my graphic driver?11:16
Orion7774.3.411:16
MamarokGuest16029: what driver do you mean? Normally it should already be installed by default11:16
pog1ho provato a reinstallare kubuntu 9.10 ma il problema delle doppie partizioni visualizzata da dolphin si presenta ancora qualche volta11:16
Mamarokit | pog111:16
pog1I tried to reinstall kubuntu 9:10 but the problem of double partitions displayed by dolphin shows a few times11:17
Mamarok!it | pog111:17
shadeslayerOrion777: simply add the kubuntu PPA to your sources,then add the keys,the sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:17
Guest16029but desktop effect didn't work11:17
FloodBotK3!netsplit11:18
Orion777shadeslayer, I'm a newbie, how do I add the kubuntu ppa to my sources11:18
pog1sorry11:18
MamarokOrion777: which package manager do you use?11:19
borja_sghello, somebody can help me wiht a pair of desktop questions?11:19
Orion777kpackagekit11:19
MamarokOrion777: well, open it and go to the Settings, ther you can add the PPA11:20
Mamarokthere*11:20
shadeslayerborja_sg: sure11:20
Orion777mamarok, what do I do in the settings?11:22
MamarokOrion777: well, open your eyes, there is a button "Edit Software Sources"11:22
shadeslayerMamarok: hehe...11:22
shadeslayerOrion777: its in a tab called additional software sources11:23
MamarokOrion777: once there, it will ask you your password, then go to the second tab and add the sources line there11:23
borja_sgi have many problems with ubuntu 9.10 and i have begin now wiht kubuntu11:23
borja_sgi use kubuntu 9.10, it works fine11:24
Orion777mamarok, you mean other software?11:24
Orion777there is no additional software sources11:24
Mamarokyes, the second tab, didn't I say that?11:25
borja_sgbut it is new for me, are there any equivalent to gconf-editor in ubuntu? how can i put de "system" icon in the desktop?11:26
shadeslayerOrion777: press the add button,and add the repo line11:26
MamarokOrion777: I didn't talk about additional software sources11:26
Mamarokshadeslayer: I already told him that, no need to repeat everything I say11:26
Orion777I add this? http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main11:26
Mamarokexactly11:26
shadeslayerOrion777: the deb word too..11:27
Mamarokonce you have done that, go to the Updates section, and do a refresh11:27
Mamaroktsimpson: ubottu seems not to work11:28
Mamarokunless it was the netsplit11:28
tsimpson!ping11:28
ubottuHere I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing.11:28
Mamarokok, was the split then, thx :)11:28
shadeslayer:D11:28
MamarokOrion777: does it update?11:29
Orion777yes, thanks!11:29
Mamaroknice :)11:31
borja_sghelp please11:31
borja_sgare there any equivalent to gconf-editor in ubuntu? how can i put de "system" icon in the desktop?11:31
tsimpsonbyw, an easy way to add PPAs to your sources is like this "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa" :)11:32
shadeslayeryeah thats a new way :D11:32
shadeslayeradds the keys too11:32
tsimpsonnice and simple11:32
shadeslayeryep11:33
Mamarokoh, nice, didn't know that :)11:34
Mamarokborja_sg: it is called systemsettings, go to the menu, right click on it to add11:35
Orion777is there anyway to skin application windows? everything is grey11:41
Orion777why are the bars in every window gray11:42
Orion777its hideous11:42
MamarokOrion777: change the color scheme, in Systemsettings -> Apperance11:45
shadeslayerOrion777: even the win deco can be changed11:45
shadeslayerOrion777: thats the border of the window application11:46
rohdefwhat's the difference between the netbook and the normal edition?11:50
shadeslayerrohdef: well,just the GUI part11:51
shadeslayerrohdef: if you see the screenshots... thats the only difference11:52
rohdefok, thanks :)11:52
FloodBotK1!netsplit11:56
Guest46315hi ehm... this is a very silly one....but i'm a new user.... when i minimize a window it disappear.... how do i maximize'em back?12:09
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Guest46315hi ehm... this is a very silly one....but i'm a new user.... when i minimize a window it disappear.... how do i maximize'em back?12:14
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andreahi ehm... this is a very silly one....but i'm a new user.... when i minimize a window it disappear.... how do i maximize'em back?12:17
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andrea76hi ehm... this is a very silly one....but i'm a new user.... when i minimize a window it disappear.... how do i maximize'em back?12:18
stefanhi - does anybody have a clue when the kde4.4 beta1 packages are going to arrive?12:22
stefani mean - more concrete than "soon" ;)12:22
macono, not better than that12:22
macoi can point you to a wiki page12:22
macohttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging12:23
stefanthanks12:23
stefan"staging" means the ppa-repo where it says "DO NOT USE" in the title?12:24
macoyes12:24
stefando you need testers for that?12:25
tsimpsonstefan: no, we don't ;)12:25
macostefan: i dont think it has all the libraries yet, so i dont think anything will actually run12:25
tsimpsonno one should use it12:25
stefanok ;) no problem12:26
akseyahi there12:43
akseyawell.. i'm having a little problem, on a notebook I have Kubuntu 9.10 ... on a remote server I have an NFS share and also a Samba share .. if I type smb://10.0.0.1 on douphin i get the shares, but the Network folder from KDE does not shows my server12:46
akseyawhat am I forgeting to configure12:46
akseya?12:46
ghostcubeso what is not showing where akseya12:48
ghostcubethe smb share from linux ?12:48
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akseyayeah, i wish I could see the smb://10.0.0.1 from somewhere without having to type it... you know... it should be recognized automatically12:49
akseyain case I'm on another network, and there are other shares..12:50
ghostcubeakseya: i can tell you an tool that is the best for samba on kde but i think jussi01 will kill me for this12:54
ghostcube:D12:54
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akseyalol.. why would he kill you, ghostcube ?12:55
jussi01ghostcube: feel free... just use common sense about it :)12:55
akseyajust one thing.. as the server has both nfs and smb shares (both shares the same folders) i guess I should use nfs, shouldn't I?12:56
ghostcubei think smb4k is a very fine tool12:56
andrea__hallo does anybody know if there's any program which detect and remove double files?12:56
ghostcubeakseya: smb4k is the one i prefere and there is an kde4 version12:57
ghostcube:)12:57
ghostcubedont know if its in repos now but i can tell you where to get it12:57
akseyai did an apt-cache search and it found it ...12:57
ghostcube:)12:58
akseyanot sure if it's kde4 version12:58
Hugonautdoes anyone know how to enable the equalizer in Amarok?12:58
ghostcubeit should work if in repo akseya12:58
akseyagona give it a try ;)12:58
ghostcube;)12:58
ghostcubeits worth so12:58
akseyahow about the nfs question?12:58
ghostcubeuhm sorry totally nfs noob :|12:58
ghostcubei do all in samba12:59
akseyait should be better than smb, since both machines are running Linux12:59
a2fdoes anyone know if there is a package like kde-minimal for gnome in the ubuntu repositories?12:59
ghostcubesure nfs is possible to be mounted afaik12:59
ghostcubea2f: maby anyone in #ubuntu knows better than here12:59
ghostcube:)12:59
akseyawell.. going go test the smb4k .. thanks13:00
andrea__hallo does anybody know if there's any program which detect and remove double files?13:00
shadeslayera2f: ubuntu-minimal ?13:00
a2fghostcube: probably, which is why i also asked in there13:00
ghostcubeoh ok :) iam not in #ubuntu sorry13:00
ghostcubehavent seen13:01
shadeslayerghostcube: btw smb4k kinda screwed my KDE once13:01
ghostcubeshadeslayer: uhm ?13:01
ghostcubenever had any probs so far o.o13:01
ghostcubeiam using since 1,5 years now13:01
shadeslayerghostcube: it was during the 4.1.x cycles.. couldnt upgrade tp 4.2 since smb4k was blocking the upgrades13:02
ghostcubeoutsch13:02
ghostcubei had it from getdeb at this time13:02
manjulaHi All13:02
shadeslayerghostcube: yeah,when i removed it and installed the standard version,everything worked fine13:02
shadeslayermanjula: hey13:02
ghostcubelike the simpsons manjula13:03
ghostcube:D13:03
manjulai have ubuntu 9.04 installed in my system and i want to instal windows XP on a another partition but this will overwrite my grub. So can someone please tell me the easiest way to reinstall grub after i install the windows Xp for dual boot13:04
manjula?13:04
* ghostcube not the easy way specialist :)13:05
nicklas_is there any other gui way too install packages than with kpackagekit? its kinda annoying having too look through like 1500 packages for installing the games you want :-P13:05
shadeslayermanjula: em : sudo grub-install /dev/(hard disk)13:06
ghostcubenicklas_: synaptic13:06
ghostcubeits gnome but it works fine13:06
manjulashadeslayer: from the live CD ?13:06
shadeslayermanjula: yep13:06
ghostcubehi rgreening :)13:06
nicklas_synaptic is the same13:06
* shadeslayer waves to rgreening 13:07
manjulashadeslayer: Ok thanks i though it will not work from their13:07
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nicklas_i want like in gnome, a meta packages gui13:07
manjulashadeslayer: Thanks bye13:07
shadeslayermanjula: hehe.. no problems13:07
shadeslayernicklas_: ubuntu-desktop ?13:08
nicklas_shadeslayer: nah :-P13:09
shadeslayernicklas_: ah you want a gui package manager?13:10
nicklas_shadeslayer: yes, where it doesnt show all the packages for the games, just the games13:10
shadeslayernicklas_: best way is : apt-cache search package | grep some_search_word13:10
nicklas_shadeslayer: with that i get a list?13:11
shadeslayernicklas_: yep, like : apt-cache search moon | grep buggy13:11
shadeslayernicklas_: see.... CLI is way better and flexible :P13:12
nicklas_shadeslayer: i know, but i want that whole list where i can click the games i want13:12
shadeslayernicklas_: well you wont be able to 'click' anything but,youll get all the info you need13:13
shadeslayernicklas_: then install with whatever package manager you need,or : sudo apt-get install packagename : in same terminal13:13
nicklas_shadeslayer: you know how it works in ubuntu right? with add/remove packages?13:13
nicklas_shadeslayer: like that13:13
shadeslayernicklas_: oh... no idea then...13:14
nicklas_shadeslayer: or the software center works too, but dont wanna install gnome-desktop :-P13:14
shadeslayerhehe...13:14
nicklas_shadeslayer: wonder if i can build a gui13:14
nicklas_dont know how to program or anything13:14
shadeslayernicklas_: sure kubuntu needs alot of love :)13:14
shadeslayergtg...13:15
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BluesKajhiyas13:38
mtltemplaranyone in here dealt with ati hd cards on 9.1 64bit and trying to setup two X server sessions instead of cloning or xinerama?14:16
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a2ffor some reason i can't join the regular ubuntu channel but could someone please help me? there's a major problem with one of the packages in ubuntu: fast-user-switch-applet... it doesn't seem to exist :( and because of that, i can't install gnome-desktop-environment in aptitude14:21
Guest70546how do I disable gui login in favor of console login? on 9.10?14:21
Guest70546hmmm, seems awful quiet in here ...14:23
mtltemplaryep. ppl are just waking up still i think14:25
alexanderi read in various sites that in order to update my bios i have to copy the update file on 3.5''disk. my pc doesnt have such a port. is the cd a way to deal with such a problem?14:27
geniiGuest70546: You'd normally have an ubuntu-server install for a box set up in that way. But you can remove gdm/kdm/xdm and it's corresponding x/k/ubuntu-desktop package, with ubuntu-minimal14:27
Guest70546I just want to test my new xorg.conf, I'll be switching the kdm back on later14:28
geniialexander: Most cd-burning programs have an option to use a boot-floppy image as a boot image for a bootable CD14:28
geniiGuest70546: Then you can use update-rc.d command on kdm to disable it properly for now, then use it again after to re-enable it. Maybe check it's manpage14:30
Guest70546yeah, I can use my Kubuntu live cd but it's a long path and a big hassle14:30
Guest70546update-rc.d, hey I'm on it14:30
apparlehi guys14:31
dihaehello14:38
genii!hi14:38
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!14:38
dihaeon the kubuntu ninjas packaging status page, the kdebindings status is 'FTBS'. what does this mean?14:39
Picidihae: Failed To Build from Source14:40
dihaeaha, i thought it meant 'f*ck this bullsh*t' ^^14:40
dihaePici: what does this mean for running kde without this package?14:41
Picidihae: Er, no.  (And please mind the language in the future)14:41
Picidihae: I don't know, I'm not sure what role that package plays in KDE.14:42
dihaePici: it was the only acronym explenation i found on the net, so I was kind enough to place *'s14:43
dihaePici: I just looked it up: it seems that it isn't a very crucial package, as it is not installed on my system, which is a plain kubuntu 9.10 install14:45
dihaeI think it is more a development package14:45
mario__good for all14:45
Pici!info kdebindings14:45
ubottuPackage kdebindings does not exist in karmic14:45
dihae!info kdebindings-kde414:45
ubottukdebindings-kde4 (source: kdebindings): KDE 4 bindings for Python, Ruby and (CIL) C#. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu4.1 (karmic), package size 3 kB, installed size 60 kB14:46
mario__wath manager packages in kubuntu 9.1014:46
geniimario__: kpackagekit14:48
mario__thanks <genii>14:50
nicklas_hello, i have installed gnome-app-install, and i select the games i want, it downloads the packages, but then just stands still when installing the packages, is this fixable? is there a command i can type in konsole too install the downloaded packages?14:50
geniinicklas_: You can try: sudo apt-get install -f14:53
nicklas_genii: what will that do?14:53
nicklas_genii: dont i have to specify a package name?14:54
geniinicklas_: Will try to fix/install anything which is still pending14:54
geniinicklas_: Correct, no packagename14:54
nicklas_nothing, hm14:54
mario__I am newbee in kubuntu 9.11014:56
mario__and user IRC (Quassel IRC)14:58
mario__and new user IRC (Quassel IRC)14:58
snarksteranybody in here talking?15:00
snarksteri would like to know why kpackagekit wont find clamav but when i do apt-cache search clamav I find all sorts of stuff15:01
snarksterguess no answer eh?15:03
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jimmyhi, someone use ppa staging for kde4.4 beta1?15:05
stefan__jimmy: its not supposed to be used by anyone as far as i know15:06
jimmyI've read on ubuntuforums.org someone talking about15:07
geniisnarkster: Likely because the KDE clamav frontend is KlamAV15:08
snarksteryah I see that but I did a search by description as well.. nothing came up but kmail15:08
snarksterso packagekit wont find gnome software at all?15:09
snarksterif klamav and clamav are in the repo shouldnt it have brought it up as well?15:09
jimmykpackagekit find klamav here15:10
geniisnarkster: Not sure about it not finding gnome stuff to install. But if there's some preferred KDE version or interface it will usually list th packagenames that those go by15:10
snarksterjust did a search by filename for klamav and it brought up app-install-data15:11
mtltemplaranyone in here dealt with ati hd cards on 9.1 64bit and trying to setup two X server sessions instead of cloning or xinerama?15:11
n3llyb0yhello. I'm using Kubuntu Karmic latest updates and I am experiencing random logouts (xorg/nvidia crash maybe?) Anyone else experiencing this?15:12
snarksterok searching by description brought up klamav15:12
genii!info klamav15:13
ubottuklamav (source: klamav): KDE frontend for ClamAV. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.46-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 874 kB, installed size 2580 kB15:13
mario__howto install one package in kpackagekit???15:13
snarkstermy question wasnt regarding klamav its just the example.. my question was regarding kpackagekit.. Thought there might have been a bug or something15:14
jimmymario__: you have to select it clicking on the arrow right the name15:16
apparlehi guys15:28
snarksterhello15:28
apparlehow do I change folder permissions including all the files in it15:29
ghostcubechmod -R folder15:29
ghostcube-R is recursiv15:29
snarkstersudo chmod -R folder15:29
snarksteroh sorry.15:30
ghostcubeor this way #:)15:30
ghostcubenah its improtant if sudo needed :)15:30
snarksterwell there are the variable to consider.. rw that sort of thing15:31
apparleapparle@CONSOLE:/media/MULTIMEDIA$ chmod -R Music/ chmod: missing operand after `Music/'15:32
apparlewhat to do15:33
snarksterchmod -R Music +r+w for read write15:35
apparleah.....15:35
snarksteror right click properties on the folder and use the GUI15:36
user_Hi Does any one know how to connect to freenode server?15:37
geniiuser_: Apparently you are connected right now15:38
snarkstergood question.15:38
jason__whats up guys15:39
snarkstersosdd and you?15:40
jason__got a question about my wifi on kubuntu 9.04 - does it take a while for the signal meter to "refresh"?15:40
jason__cause I was downstairs in the basement where theres zero wifi and it still said 100%15:40
jason__I also have 2 signal meters in my network manager - one with my IP next to it, one with my SSID next to it - which one is my true signal meter? Both currently are 100%...15:41
apparlesnarkster: And what command should I use to make a file only writable by su15:41
snarksterdid you continue to be able to surf the web or talk in irc?15:41
jason__snarkster - I did not try, to be honest. I just saw no signal and thought ahh that's it, no signal15:41
snarkster100% and no signal15:41
jason__snarkster - this is my work wifi (Im in the tech dept) and Im in a school with very old, lead walls. Signal is hard to pass through walls here.15:41
jason__snarkster - well, I have 2 meters though15:42
jason__snarkster - which one is mine?15:42
snarksterthe one with no signal is yours.15:42
snarksterapparle: change the ower to root15:42
apparlesnarkster: thanks15:44
snarksterapparle: NP DUDE15:45
apparleGuys I am facing another problem... I am unable to see the widgets which I download from internet... although in the download widget dialogs they appear as installed15:45
snarksterjason__: my question is if you have no signal how are you in here talking with us?15:45
apparleAnd how to get the neopmunk search working15:48
snarkstergood question.15:49
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jason__snarkster - I have signal now - I didnt before when I was in the basement. I'm upstairs now. :)16:04
jason__sorry about the delayed response16:04
DindonHello folks !16:05
DindonI'm trying to use pxe/deployment with preseed16:05
DindonI'm actualy not seing any hit on apache to get the preseed file (and ofc it's not working)16:06
DindonI use as append options -> append ramdisk_size=14984 rw auto vga=normal initrd=ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz preseed/locale=fr_FR kdb-chooser/method=fr netcfg/wireless_wep= netcfg/choose_interface=eth0 console-setup/layoutcode=fr_FR preseed/url=http://pxe.zeus.fr/kubuntu.cfg --16:06
DindonAny help would be appreciated :)16:06
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apparleAnd how to get the neopmunk search working16:07
geniiDindon:  The dhcp server is giving client pxe box a valid route to internet to find that FQDN?16:07
Dindongenii: yes as a dns server16:07
binarylooksapparle: did u check in the system settings advance tab?16:08
Dindongenii: option domain-name-servers and option routers are sets16:08
apparlebinarylooks: that doesn't work.... I enabled the strigi service also16:08
binarylookscan u describe WHAT doesn'nt work?16:09
binarylooksfor example, can u change tags in dolphin?16:09
Moryddis there any good reason not to remove apport?16:10
binarylooksMorydd: I think in lucid dr konqui will be used instead of apport16:10
apparlebinarylooks: I didn't check that.... but searching doesn't work and after..... about an hour RAM usage goes up by about 400MB..16:10
apparlebinarylooks: I mean searching in krunner16:11
binarylooksfor the moment maybe turn of strigi, nepomul is often enough already16:11
dlongHello all16:11
binarylooksif i tag a picture with "holidays" and afterwards type "holildays" in krunner, the picures pop up16:11
MoryddAll I know is that I'm constantly getting dialogs that pop up asking for my password from apport. Sometimes several in a row.16:11
binarylooksthis is done by nepomuk, not strigi16:11
geniiDindon: So the dhcp server is routing traffic from the adapter which it is giving the clients IP on, to another adapter which is then connected to the internet?16:12
Dindongenii: no there is a dual wan router (wich is the gw)16:13
Dindongenii: only 1 interface on this box16:13
geniiDindon: The URL you gave cannot be resolved16:14
Dindongenii: I also tried to up a virtual interface with a dedicated ip16:15
DindonIssue is the same16:15
apparleGuys I am facing another problem... I am unable to see the widgets which I download from internet... although in the download widget dialogs they appear as installed16:15
binarylooksapparle: KDESC 4.3?16:15
apparlebinarylooks: yes16:16
apparlebinarylooks: kubuntu 9.1016:16
binarylooksapparle: i remember having the same issue, some appeared after a restart, some never turned up.16:16
binarylookscan u give me an example so I can try on my box16:16
geniiDindon: eg: I can get to for instance http://zeus.fr/    but http://pxe.zeus.fr/  is nonexistent16:18
Dindonit's a lan domain genii16:18
Dindononly on our bind ;)16:18
apparlebinarylooks: I have the plasmoid 'inUtileBar' installed (I get uninstall option in front of it in get new widgets) but it is not shown in add widgets list16:19
geniiDindon: I would suggest to use for the preseed location then the IP and not fully-qualified-domain-name16:19
DindonAlready did genii ;)16:19
DindonIssue is exactly the same16:20
binarylooksapparle: did u get it from kde-look via the GHNS interface or did u download a file?16:20
apparleSomeone plz suggest a way such that I'll be able to see the HDD temperature in a widget etc.16:20
apparlebinarylooks: I installed it from get new widget directly.... didn't download the file.... what's the expansion of GHNS16:21
geniiDindon: Can you pastebin contents of the server's /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf  please16:21
Dindonofc genii hold on16:22
K350I've indexed my M Audio Delta soundcard as 0 in alsa-base.conf. But I've to reload alsa after every boot to have it as primary soundcard. What to do about it?16:22
Dindongenii: http://pastebin.ca/170706616:23
binarylooksbinarylooks: hmmm. i cant find it. strange16:23
binarylooksanyway, i have to leave now. goog luck16:24
geniiDindon: Reading. Apologies on lag, work requires me often today16:26
Dindongenii: no problem thanks for helping !!!16:26
geniiDindon: I would suggest to change "routers" to the 192.168.2.2 instead of 192.168.1.1, then it will look to the box it is on for the name/IP16:31
jason__snarkster - you still here bro16:32
jason__does anybody use kubuntu on a laptop wirelessly?16:32
Koliajason__: not right now, but usually yep16:33
jason__kolia - do you use the standard network manager to connect to your networks?16:33
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Koliajason__: no, i use wicd16:35
Koliai got some trouble with the default network manager16:35
Koliain such case, it's usually recommanded to use wicd instead16:35
jason__kolia - what trouble did you have?16:35
jason__kolia - Im just having issues understanding what in the world is going on with my wireless signal. I have 2 signal bars, I dont know which one to look at for my signal, because they each act differently.16:36
geniiDindon: Work requires me. I suggest to check out https://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install  which helped me greatly when I set up my own PXE server here16:39
Koliajason__: that kind of problem :)16:39
Koliajason__: and also not being able to connect with a WEP ascii (i believe)16:40
Koliaanyway, i saved me a lot of trouble by switching to wicd16:40
jason__kolia - oh, nice. I heard good and bad things about WICD. You havent had any trouble with it though?16:40
Koliajason__: never.16:40
jason__kolia - do you just grab it from add/remove programs?16:40
Koliajason__: i usually do a   sudo apt-get install wicd16:41
jason__I'm updating right now wirelessly so I cant pick anything up in add/remove programs16:41
jason__ah okay16:41
jason__I heard good things about wicd tho - I wonder why its not the default (built in) wifi manager16:41
Koliaalso when installing wicd it says it will remove the network manager: don't worry it's normal16:41
jason__I heard people in the ubuntu chat on the gnome side saying the same thing16:41
jason__kolia - so just in case things backfire, I can just plug in ethernet and do an apt-get install network-manager and be back to where I was?16:41
Koliajason__: can't confirm this sorry16:42
jason__great - all of the sudden I cant see any windows shares on kubuntu16:42
jason__(not related to wicd)16:42
Kolia(yep)16:42
jason__just noticed it and decided to rant :P16:42
jason__unable to find any workgroups on your network. May be related to a firewall.16:43
jason__I was connected two and a half minutes ago, and now samba gives me the finger16:43
jason__grrr16:43
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snarkstersamba is way to complicated16:44
snarksterdont get me wrong its great, just overly complicated.16:44
jason__what do you mean, too complicated? In terms of using it, or the way its designed?16:44
snarksternfs is easy compared to samba16:45
mtltemplaranyone in here dealt with ati hd cards on 9.1 64bit and trying to setup two X server sessions instead of cloning or xinerama?16:45
jason__nfs is also linux only - isnt it?16:45
jason__cause Im on a windows network here at work16:45
snarksteryes16:45
jason__so Im kinda, screwed16:45
jason__I should set up nfs at home16:45
jason__can I have nfs and samba run in parallel together?16:45
jason__cause I have windows/mac's at home too that still need to hit my server16:46
snarksteri was just commenting on how difficult samba is to configure compared to nfs16:46
apparlewhere is DCOP?16:46
Vroomfondleerm, I think you can use Windows Services For UNIX to access NFS16:47
apparleI mean I used that command in Kubuntu 7.10 but now I get command not found16:47
macoapparle: its not installed by default...16:48
apparleThe widgets which I install from internet are not displayed in the list.. what to do16:48
apparlemaco: how to install it... and why is it not installed by default16:48
jason__Vroomfondle - no kidding?16:49
Vroomfondlejason__: so I hear16:49
jason__Vroomfondle - if Windows services/nfs works better than samba, we have a winner.16:49
macoer......hm wait....nevermind. i dont know16:49
jason__have you heard anything about macs tho?16:49
macoi had no idea the command existed before. but i was just mentally mixing up ipcop and dcop16:49
VroomfondleI imagine macs can access NFS.... surely they must be able to. MacOS is Unix-based.16:49
macoVroomfondle: yes they can16:50
apparlebinarylooks are you there?16:50
mtltemplaryes macs can16:50
snarkstermacs are easy with nfs16:50
apparleThe widgets which I install from internet are not displayed in the list.. what to do?16:52
FloodBotK3!netsplit16:55
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit16:55
Jaycekolia you still here bro16:58
apparleI have a very slow boot up ... in karmic ... why is it so16:58
Jaycehow do I enable security support on wicd? Every time I try to connect to my WPA2 network it says I need to enable security - uh, what?16:58
apparleI have one IDE with (XP,Win7,Kubuntu) and SATA with all data............ getting very slow boot up..16:59
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apparleThe widgets which I install from internet are not displayed in the list.. what to do?17:04
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Guest20541hello, anybody here with an intel i845GE videochipset? I have bad  performance in X. OS is kubuntu karmic17:05
Dindongenii: thanks anyway I'm off17:08
Dindonbye17:08
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anyoneguest20541... I have intel 845...something.. i will check17:09
anyoneguest20541... sorry 845 chipset but radeon graphics. sorry17:11
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mauriI need a kde tool for partition backup17:19
mauriI dont know which could be the right one17:19
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milo_please who can help me with my wireless? since i upgraded to ubunutu 9.10, it's not working properly :(17:36
ct529hi everybody .... where is the history of the visited sites in the new konqueror???? i do not appear to be able to find it anymore!17:42
zoraelAny decent alternatives to gwenview? It's practically unusable in large directories. The browse function starts generating thumbsnails and the app becomes unresponsive.17:43
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rorkct529: go > show history in the menubar17:45
judgenwhere does kde3 store the information on what window manager to use?17:47
judgenI wish to use kwin from kde4 but still run kde3 (i have both installed) where do i go about changeing that?17:48
tsimpsonjudgen: you should be able to set that with system settings (from KDE3) or kcontrol17:51
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thereevis26i got a question about resetting my user password18:09
thereevis26anybody know how to do it with or without a cd?18:10
mofuxany news about 4.4 beta 1 packages?18:11
tsimpsonthereevis26: you'd need to be able to access an account with sudo privileges or root18:11
tsimpsonmofux: not yet18:11
mofux:'(18:11
tsimpsonthereevis26: or just boot into recovery mode18:11
thereevis26i did that18:12
thereevis26all i could reset was the root password but not the user18:12
tsimpsonyou need to put your username after "passwd"18:12
thereevis26oh i c18:13
tsimpsonso like "passwd myuser"18:13
thereevis26gotcha18:13
thereevis26thanks alot18:13
tsimpsonno problem18:13
thereevis26so just passwd is the root and passwd myuser is the actual user18:13
tsimpsonpasswd just defaults to whatever use us running the command18:13
GalvatronHI18:14
tsimpson*user is18:14
GalvatronAfter an update my kubuntu 9.04 stopped detecting my printer HP Deskjest 342018:14
thereevis26oh so if there is no user i won't reset that user automatically18:15
thereevis26makes more sense18:15
tsimpsonif you run the command as root, but don't specify the user, it sets the password for root18:15
thereevis26i am starting to learn more about this system as time goes18:16
GalvatronIf I try to print anything in OO.org Writer, the only printer is "Generic", I can't set printing quality and when I hit "Print", I get "Error while printing" and thats all.18:16
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thereevis26i will be back later to let you know if i am successful or not18:16
GalvatronThats what I get after trying to install drivers from HP page manually: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337458/18:18
GalvatronOf course CUPS is running18:18
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doktoreashello folks18:30
doktoreasanyone using facebook plugin for kopete?18:31
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eagles0513875wooohoo google chrome is available on linux18:32
n16h7f0xcan anybody help me install & config ati radeon hd  3430 driver on kubuntu 9.10?18:36
nookie^!ati18:38
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:38
n16h7f0xnookie^, but instructions only for jaunty and lower and not compatible iwth karmic18:41
apparlen16h7f0x: just do this18:44
apparlen16h7f0x: 'sudo apt-get update18:44
apparlen16h7f0x: 'sudo apt-get update'18:45
n16h7f0x....18:45
apparlen16h7f0x: then goto hardware drivers and enable the proprietary driver18:45
n16h7f0xapparle, did that but that driver is buggy doesn't work fine18:46
n16h7f0xi have to stay 3-4 seconds till yakuake pop down (and before that worked instantly)18:46
n16h7f0xand other bugs 218:46
geniin16h7f0x: The http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Karmic_Installation_Guide  page says to use the Jaunty guide, at: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide18:46
geniin16h7f0x: (this is the support wiki which official AMD/ATI points to)18:47
n16h7f0xgenii, folowed that guide to18:47
n16h7f0xbut still have that bugs18:47
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GalvatronHi19:09
GalvatronSorry for aking the same thing again, but I had some problems with Opera and got disconnected19:10
GalvatronAfter an update (probably X) my Kubuntu 9.04 stopped detecting my HP Deskjest 3420.19:11
GalvatronIn OO.org Writer I have only "Generic printer" with no advenced options.19:11
GalvatronCUPS is running and I already installed HPLIP anually19:12
Galvatron*manually19:14
m_tadeuhi all...why does vlc get the webcam image upside down....this is not happening in kopete or skype19:40
ticcethello19:41
ct529plasma,xorg and kwin take up a lot of memory .... is there a way to control them?19:41
Tm_Tct529: what is "a lot" and how you measure it?19:42
ct529Tm_T: I use top, and a lot is 3.9 GB over 8GB19:42
Tm_Tct529: which column you're looking at?19:43
ct529Tm_T: (that is for all the processes that run by default, of course using Pareto I want to limit the first 20%)19:43
pilatwhat does it mean if "Request authorization" option is disabled for certain contact (ICQ)?19:43
ct529Tm_T: I am looking at the occupation19:43
pilatregards, btw )19:43
Tm_Tct529: you should look at "res"19:44
pilatanyone use kopete for chatting with ICQ-addicted mates?19:46
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ct529Tm_T: xorg ~ 400MB and plasma ~125MB19:46
ct529Tm_T: (res column)19:46
p13rr3Hi folks, anyone can help with a sound card problem?19:46
ct529p13rr3: whihc card?19:47
r00t_ninjact529: wow your xorg is using quite alot of memory19:48
p13rr3Intel 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition19:48
r00t_ninjap13rr3: problem?19:48
r00t_ninjact529: my xorg sits at ~25mb of ram19:48
ct529r00t_ninja: that is what I am saying .... I do not understand why19:49
Tm_Tct529: does that happen right after boot? or over time?19:49
ct529Tm_T: that is the memory occupation right through19:50
ct529r00t_ninja: that is what I imagine should look like19:50
r00t_ninjaare you using any special drivers19:51
r00t_ninja?19:51
Tm_Tct529: which KDE version that is? and what you have on your plasma, I assume it's not plain default19:51
ct529r00t_ninja: plasma at ~125MB is not bad either19:51
r00t_ninjaplasma-desktop?19:51
ct529r00t_ninja: I am using NVIDIA driver, last version19:51
p13rr3I had audio but suddenly a message like "The devices HDA INTEL (STAC 92xx Digital/Analog) are not installed" and I lost audio.19:51
ct529kde 43419:51
r00t_ninjamy plasma sits at ~34mb19:52
ct529Tm_T: four notes and the comic plasmoid?19:52
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ct529r00t_ninja: yes, that is how it should be19:52
Tm_Tct529: ah, what happens if you don't have those?19:52
pilatseriously.. can't figure up one thing with the contacts authorization (ICQ@kopete)...19:52
r00t_ninjabrb19:53
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ct529Tm_T: nothing, it is the same19:53
p13rr3I tried a solution recommended in ubuntu. Adding options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m26 (that is my pc model) forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845&page=2), but It did not work.19:54
ct529Tm_T: by cosing absolutely everything I got to 109MB for plasma, no change for Xorg19:55
p13rr3root_ninja is gone :( He was helping me.19:55
ct529Tm_T: s/cosing/closing19:55
r00t_ninjathe process nepomukservicestub seems to leak memory19:55
Tm_Tct529: hmh, I suspect that comic plasmoid has something weird going on atleast19:56
r00t_ninjaafter a day its chewing up 290mb19:56
p13rr3r00t_ninja:  I had audio but suddenly a message like "The devices HDA INTEL (STAC 92xx Digital/Analog) are not installed" and I lost audio.19:56
r00t_ninjago into system settings19:56
r00t_ninjaand then multimedia settings19:56
bfootehi all, just upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04, now I got no panel, any hints?19:58
p13rr3I am on Multimedia Settings right now. I have 1) HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog), 2) HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog) #1, 3) PulseAudio. 1 and 2 are disabled.19:58
r00t_ninjadoes 2 work?20:00
p13rr3No.20:01
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p13rr3No HDA Intel device is working20:02
ct529Tm_T: well, it is not there anymore but the memory occupation is untouched20:02
r00t_ninjap13rr3: what backend are you using?20:02
p13rr3And I loose the HDA Intel (STAC92xx digital)20:02
Tm_Tct529: sounds weird, shame I'm out of ideas (and time)20:02
Tm_Tct529: but good luck (:20:02
p13rr3What is the back end? What command can show me the backend?20:03
ct529Tm_T: thanks all the same20:03
r00t_ninjain the multimedia settings click backend20:03
r00t_ninjanext to device preferences20:03
p13rr3xine20:04
r00t_ninjaok20:04
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r00t_ninjadoes switching it to  gstreamer help20:04
cragdorhi p13rr3, can you do me a favour load console and type:   speaker-test -c 2  this will atleast tell us if your card is working at all20:06
cragdorp13rr3, you will need to ctrl c to kill the test or it will repeat non stop20:07
p13rr3I only have xine as option.20:07
r00t_ninjaoh ok then20:07
cragdorp13rr3, you should hear static played through both front speakers20:08
p13rr3I tried a solution recommended in ubuntu. Adding options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m26 on /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf (that is my pc model) forums, but It did not work.20:08
Jaycecan anyone help me? I nuked KDE by trying to upgrade to 4.3.2 on jaunty. Now I cant even log in my system. :(20:09
p13rr3r00t_ninja: that was a message that I sent just before you disconnect.20:09
r00t_ninjai would suggest undoing that20:10
cragdori agree20:10
cragdorwhat is listed when you type: cat /proc/asound/cards20:10
simo_hello every body20:10
simo_i wanna install skype in my kubuntu20:10
r00t_ninjathen rebooting and making sure all the right channels are unmuted , yesterday for somereason my surround channel got muted and i had no sound20:10
p13rr3I did and restart the pc, but the problem continue.20:11
simo_but there not is this package20:11
r00t_ninjasimo_: add the skype repository20:11
simo_how can i do it ?20:11
r00t_ninjaopen up kpackagekit20:11
Jayceanybody know how I can fix it? :(20:12
simo_yes20:12
simo_and ?20:12
r00t_ninjago into settings20:12
simo_there isnt there ?20:12
r00t_ninjayea there is20:12
r00t_ninjaill take a pic20:12
simo_in add and remove softeware ?20:12
r00t_ninjahttp://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2365/plasmadesktopel1532.jpg20:13
r00t_ninjayes20:13
r00t_ninjap13rr3: have you gone into kmixer and checked that all channels are unmuted20:15
simo_im in setting now20:15
simo_what i have to do ?20:16
r00t_ninjaok go into software sources20:16
r00t_ninjaedit software sources20:16
simo_yes20:16
r00t_ninjanow go into the other software tab20:16
r00t_ninjaand click add20:16
simo_then ?20:17
r00t_ninjacopy and paste:20:17
r00t_ninjadeb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free20:17
simo_all of this ?20:17
simo_deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free20:17
r00t_ninjayes20:17
p13rr3r00t_ninja I identified a problem: I renamed the files alsa-base.conf as alsa-base.conf:1 to save the changes when a I revert the modification. I seems that alsa read this files.20:17
r00t_ninjaok20:18
bfootecan you please offer me advice on how to troubleshoot my panel not showing up on kde login?20:18
simo_then ?20:18
islingtonAre the kde 4.4 b1 packages coming? Would like to test20:18
r00t_ninjaclick ok20:18
r00t_ninjathen close20:18
r00t_ninjabfoote: can you add another one20:18
bfooteI have no panel at all20:18
p13rr3r00t_ninja: I am gooing to restart. If I am not come back, I want to thank you. You have been very helpful.20:19
r00t_ninjanp20:19
bfooter00t_ninja: what are we calling them now?20:19
r00t_ninjapanels20:19
bfooter00t_ninja: maybe I mean kicker?20:19
Jayceanybody know if its possible to change the "K" icon in the kickstart launcher?20:19
simo_i dont have it installed yet ?20:19
r00t_ninja^yes20:19
bfooter00t_ninja: kicker isn't kicker anymore, is it?20:19
islingtonJayce: right click20:19
r00t_ninjasimo_: did it ask you to refresh your packages?20:20
islingtonJayce: there will be an option in the settings20:20
Jayceoh, well geez20:20
Jaycethat was easy20:20
Jaycethanks doods20:20
islington:)20:20
Jayceahhh KDE, land of the logical :P20:20
r00t_ninjaso you found it?20:20
simo_no20:20
Jayceme? root?20:20
Jayceoh nevermind20:20
r00t_ninjasimo20:20
simo_yes20:20
r00t_ninjanow go into software management20:21
r00t_ninjaand search for skype20:21
islingtonbfoote: reset your plasma config20:21
islingtonbfoote: if you cant get it back20:21
simo_ok20:21
bfooteislington: is that in .kde4/share/config ?20:21
Jayceguys, why is KDE hating me. I tried upgrading it on my laptop to 4.3.2 on jaunty with the PPA backports, and now I cant log in with it :(20:21
islingtonbfoote: hold on a sec20:21
KoliaJayce: describe your problem20:22
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JayceI log in and I get a plasma failed to load problem. Right now Im in console, I tried to re-add the PPA with nano, re-add the GPG key, and apt-get install KDE like the guide said, still failed20:22
Jaycebtw kolia I'm loving WICD ;)20:22
Koliahey :)20:22
KoliaJayce: sudo apt-get update   first20:23
simo_know i find it, but a problem to install a packag20:23
Jaycekolia - I did :(20:23
Jaycekolia - wait...20:23
Koliahum20:23
r00t_ninjasimo_: problem?20:23
simo_A package dependency could not be found.20:23
simo_More information is available in the detailed report.20:23
Jayceadd PPA, update, add GPG key, update, install kde?20:23
Koliawhat did you try to install? kubuntu-desktop?20:23
r00t_ninjamake sure you are updated20:23
Jaycethe guide said apt-get install kde, so I went with that20:23
KoliaJayce: i don't think there is a "kde" package20:23
Koliahuh?20:23
r00t_ninjago into software updates and click refresh simo_20:23
Koliawhich guide?20:23
simo_ok20:24
Jaycehttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-4-3-2-on-ubuntu-jaunty.htmlhttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-4-3-2-on-ubuntu-jaunty.html20:24
Jayceoops, hit it twice20:24
cragdorAnyone know the location of this config in kubuntu karmic? <~/.config/kde.org/Phonon-Xine.xine.conf> its used by phonon20:24
Jaycehttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-4-3-2-on-ubuntu-jaunty.html20:24
FloodBotK1Jayce: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:24
simo_Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend.20:24
simo_Please close any other legacy packaging tools that may be open.20:24
KoliaJayce: one sec, reading20:24
simo_problem in update again20:25
islingtonbfoote: kquitapp plasma-desktop20:25
islingtonrm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma*20:25
islingtonplasma20:25
r00t_ninjasimo_: is there a package icon in your systray?20:25
islington*bfoote: plasma-desktop20:25
simo_systray, what is this ?20:25
KoliaJayce: first time i hear about a 'kde' package20:26
islingtonsimo_: next to the little 'i' icon20:26
Jayce*shrug*20:26
KoliaJayce: usually when coming from ubuntu i use to install kubuntu-desktop20:26
JayceIm in co nsole now20:26
JayceIll try kubuntu-desktop20:26
r00t_ninjawhere the clipboard and other icons are20:26
Jaycemy only concern is, theres an older version of kubuntu-desktop in the repos. By apt-getting that, will I grab the PPA by default (aka the nwere version)?20:26
islingtonAre the kde 4.4 b1 packages coming? Would like to test20:26
simo_yes20:27
simo_is there20:27
r00t_ninjais there like a bok icon?20:27
r00t_ninjais there like a box icon?20:27
simo_yes20:27
Jaycekolia - just ran sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in console, says its already the newest version. Ill try booting to the GUI again...20:27
r00t_ninjaclick on it20:27
KoliaJayce: ok see you in a moment then20:27
r00t_ninjawhat are the options when you click on it - what is it doing?20:28
Jaycekolia - 2 computers bro :)20:28
Jaycekolia - I do have a meeting in 3 minutes tho, so I may have to bounce before this can be looked at more extensively20:28
KoliaJayce: ok20:28
simo_when i click on it, he gave me a opcion to apply it20:29
Jaycekolia - errored out again20:29
bfooteislington: launches dialog "The application 'Plasma Workspace' reqested to open the wallet 'kdewalet'..... and prompts for password, and appears to crash20:29
simo_but when i click on apply20:29
simo_i find that problem20:29
ddfirehi everyone20:29
Koliahum..20:29
Jaycewe are sorry, a plasmna workspace closed unexpectedly, blah blah20:29
r00t_ninjasimo_:  is that box gone now tho?20:29
JayceI just installed kubuntu last night :(20:29
Koliawhat happens now if you try to launch plasma-desktop ?20:30
JayceIv eupgraded to 4.3.2 on 3 machines so far without issues. Youd think Id get it by now :P20:30
Jaycehow do I launch plasma-dekstop?20:30
islingtonbfoote: did you delete ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* files?20:30
Kolia(just type   plasma-desktop in console)20:30
simo_any idea20:30
JayceI'm stuck with nothing but the error on the screen - nothing else20:30
Jaycek lemme back out20:30
r00t_ninjasimo_: now try refreshing20:30
ddfirei tried kubuntu live and my wifi works out of the box i installed it (in the same machine off cource) and it dosent work any ideas?20:30
Jaycekolia - Im cutting time short I gotta get to this meeting20:31
bfooteislington: no20:31
Bsims I can't record any audio but the speakers work any ideas, I've fiddled with all teh settings I just get a hiss20:31
Jaycethanks bro for the help!20:31
simo_ok20:31
bfooteislington: should I?20:31
KoliaJayce: no prob see you later maybe20:31
islingtonbfoote: yes, if you cant get any panel, or your plasma configuration is beyond repair20:31
Bsims I even tried another audio port20:31
r00t_ninjaddfire: are you connected to the internet some other way on that machine?20:31
islingtonbfoote: ageter doing so log out and log back in20:32
ddfirer00t_ninja: yes, i put a wire when i notice there wasnt any way to put wifi to work....20:32
islingtonddfire is the network manager not letting you connect? can you connect through a konsole?20:33
ddfireislington: iwlist dont work either20:34
ddfireislington: iwlist scan --> "wlan0     Failed to read scan data : Network is down"20:34
r00t_ninjaddfire: make sure you have any extra hardware drivers20:35
ddfirer00t_ninja: how?20:35
islingtonddfire: I think its your router, that is down20:35
islingtonis wlan0 up?20:35
ddfireislington: i have other machines working wifi now using the same route20:35
bfooteislington: slightly better, though still with crash, the kickerpanel pops up for a second and then dies (at login)20:35
ddfireislington: i dont know :)20:36
r00t_ninjatype sudo ifconfig wlan0 up20:36
r00t_ninjathen try iwlist20:36
ddfireroot@ddfirex4:/home/ddfire# ifconfig wlan0 up20:36
ddfireSIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 13220:36
r00t_ninjamake sure you have any restricted drivers installed20:37
ddfirer00t_ninja: how???20:37
noaXesshave a problem in firefox and thunderbird, they won't use the default printer settings... they use another setting.. and on every ff or tb print i need to change the printer settings... any idea?20:37
r00t_ninjarefresh your package list either by running sudo apt-get update or clicking refresh in kpackagekit20:37
ddfirer00t_ninja: done20:37
r00t_ninjaok go into applications -> system -> hardware drivers20:38
r00t_ninjaand it should say searching for available drivers20:38
islingtonare you using the b43 driver?20:39
ddfirer00t_ninja: only show my ati video card driver20:40
r00t_ninjammm20:40
p1errer00_ninja: I am back again :(. But the problem is partially solved. HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog) is enabled, but [....]Digital) is not.20:41
r00t_ninjaddfire: run the command "lspci | grep Wireless"20:41
ddfirer00t_ninja: output is: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection20:41
islingtonbfoote: run "plasma-desktop" in the konsole, any errors>20:41
r00t_ninjap1erre: do you have sound though?20:42
r00t_ninjap1erre: digital will only work if your speakers are plugged into the digital port20:42
bfooteislington: a whole shit load of "QGraphicsGridLayout::itemAt: invalid index 1"20:43
islingtonddfire: try this workaorund in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/46455920:43
jussi01!language | bfoote20:43
ubottubfoote: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.20:43
islingtonbfoote: but did plasma crash again?20:43
bfooteislington: yes it did20:43
p1errer00t_ninja: yes.20:44
ddfireislington: dont work same error20:44
islingtonbfoote: what are you using as your theme engine? oxygen?20:45
p1errer00t_ninja: You recommend me other backend. Do you think that I should installed it and replace xine?20:46
r00t_ninjano20:46
r00t_ninjai was just curios as to whether it would work20:46
r00t_ninjai use xine20:46
bfooteislington: first error is... QDBusObjectPath: invalid Path ""20:47
bfooteislington: yes, oxygen20:47
r00t_ninjap1erre: are you absolutely sure all the channels are unmuted in kmix?20:47
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islingtonbfoote post the output on pastebin20:48
bfooteislington: and.. Invalid D-Bus interface name 'org.kde.plasma-desktop.PlasmaApp' found while parsing introspection20:48
ddfirewhy i used wifi with live cd and now wifi is death?20:48
p1erreYes they are.20:48
r00t_ninjaok so is the analog mixer working?20:49
r00t_ninjaand not the digital20:49
p1errer00t_ninja: I belive it is working. Right now It is on Kmixer It is on Master Channel.20:49
r00t_ninjaok20:50
r00t_ninjamake sure pcm is turned up aswell20:50
ddfirer00t_ninja islington: i found the problem, please dont kick me tooo hard, the wifi was off :D20:50
r00t_ninjaddfire: lol20:50
ddfireswitching to wifi20:51
p1errer00t_ninja: PCM is on its maximum, But in the pop up 'Select Master Channel' Master is selected.20:51
p1errer00t_ninja: Is that right?20:52
r00t_ninjaslow noris dos?yes20:52
r00t_ninjayes20:52
p1errer00t_ninja: Ok. I can live with the analog device... Thanks for everithing.20:53
r00t_ninjawait20:53
islingtonddfire: flad you are wirefree!20:53
p1erreI am here..20:53
r00t_ninjayou know the digital device wont work if your speakers arny plugged into it20:53
r00t_ninjai think it would be the orage port20:53
p1errer00t_ninja: wait a moment... I am on a Laptop. I am using the built-in speakers.20:54
r00t_ninjaoh20:55
noaXessmy apps wont use the default printer settings that are defined for my printer in cups.. any idea? bug?20:56
noaXesseg. if i try print from okular then i need always set the right printer settings..20:58
bfooteislington: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337563/21:01
islingtonbfoote: gimme a sec21:02
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islingtonbfoote: open a konsole21:07
islingtonkquitapp plasma-desktop; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc; plasma-desktop21:08
islingtonKDEHOME is /home/user/.kde21:08
bfooteislington: not .kde4 ?21:09
islingtonno21:09
bfooteislington: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337565/21:10
bfooteislington: still crash21:10
islingtonbfoot run them one at a time21:11
islingtonso first kquitapp plasma-desktop21:11
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bfooteislington: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337567/21:13
bfooteislington: same21:13
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noaXesssomone has also problem with the default printer settings?21:14
r00t_ninjanot me21:15
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islingtonbfoote: I honestly have no idea. I must admit defeat.21:21
prefrontalthe Kubuntu website contains no clear path to the network upgrade instructions21:22
prefrontalfurthermore there is no clear path to the 9.04 jaunty images21:22
prefrontalthe kubuntu website is pretty but poorly designed in terms of navigation.21:22
RanaramaWell, it's Linux21:23
bfooteislington: well thanks for your help21:23
prefrontalhardy, intrepid jaunty and karmic are all supported. therefore the download page on the kubuntu website should contain a drop down that allows you to easily download those images21:24
prefrontalwho do I send these complaints to.21:24
Jaycekolia you here bro21:24
Jayceanybody try updating their 9.04 install of kubuntu to KDE 4.3.2? Mine backfired in my face. :( cant get into the gui at all now21:24
jussi01!bug | prefrontal21:24
ubottuprefrontal: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots21:24
prefrontalthat command is obviously not relevant to my queries21:25
noaXessprefrontal: whats really your problem?21:26
jussi01prefrontal: absolutely it is. you need to file a bug about the kubuntu website21:26
noaXessyes..21:26
noaXessprefrontal: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade...21:27
noaXessprefrontal: after all the: sudo do-release-upgrade21:28
prefrontalbut thanks for the attempt21:28
prefrontalif you know of a method that will direct me to the person who actually designs the website, then you might be in a position to provide me assistance21:28
prefrontalnoAxESS, the Ubuntu website contains those instructions, and I have already upgraded my primary workstation21:30
prefrontalhowever, I now need to install jaunty in a virtual machine21:30
prefrontalthe Kubuntu website is absolutely useless for both of these endeavors21:30
jussi01prefrontal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/21:30
prefrontalthanks21:31
jussi01as I mentioned, you need to file a bug against the kubuntu website21:31
noaXessprefrontal: so, thats why we are here in this channel,,, to help... and direct you to the right place..21:31
jussi01prefrontal: theres a file a bug button on the top right21:31
noaXessprefrontal: just register on launchpad an file a bug, so it will be directed to the kubuntu website team..21:32
noaXesshey jussi01.. good evening :)21:32
jussi01hi noaXess21:32
JayceGAHHHHH!!! How can I get KDE running on my laptop again? I upgraded to 4.3.2 on jaunty and it blew up in my face. Now I cant even log in.21:32
noaXessany idea, why my apps won't get the default printer settings from cups?21:32
RanaramaI'm trying to add a widget, instead I get a grey box that says "Desktop  Desktop" with a slider in it, why can't I just add a widget?21:33
jussi01Jayce: can you get to a cli login?21:33
JayceI can get to console, yes21:33
r00t_ninjaRanarama: so you right click on your desktop and go add widget?21:33
Jayceits when I log in to the KDE screen that it backfires21:33
r00t_ninjaJayce: have you tried deleting your old kde configuration21:34
r00t_ninjaand what are the errors21:34
noaXessJayce: or renamit first ;)21:34
Jaycehow do I do that? apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop?21:34
noaXessno21:34
r00t_ninjano21:34
Jaycethe error is something like a plasma widget failed to initialize, then I hit close and nothing else happens21:34
Jaycek Im in console guys - what should I run?21:35
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prefrontalhere is my bug. thanks. https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website/+bug/49421421:35
prefrontalwhere can I get the 9.04 image?21:35
r00t_ninjamv ~/.kde ~/kde.bak21:35
rohdefhow do I make KDE stop mirroring my display on my monitors? The option seems to be unavailable in System Settings->Display->Multiple monitors, where I would have expected to find it21:36
Jaycer00t_ninja - what do I do after that?21:36
geniiprefrontal: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/21:36
r00t_ninjatry logging in21:37
prefrontalgenii, thanks21:37
r00t_ninjarohdef: any special drivers?21:37
Ranaramar00t_ninja: Think I figured it out now, thought I just had to click the star and then "add widget", seems I had activity bar highlighted and added a bunch of those :P21:37
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geniiprefrontal: All available releases can found from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/21:37
r00t_ninjaRanarama: ok21:37
rohdefr00t_ninja, some Intel onboard card21:37
rohdefr00t_ninja, but nu, just default drivers21:37
r00t_ninjai dont have multiple monitors but you cant find it under the multiple monitors section in display?21:38
noaXessany app, kde and other apps, whant print with default cups printer settings.. any hint?21:38
r00t_ninjanoaXess: try changing the kde printer settings21:38
Orion777ever since I upgraded to kde 4.3.4 it won't remember my wallpaper or video card settings.whats up with that?21:38
bfooteokay, I got it to work by mv .kde and then 'service kdm restart' *shrug*21:39
rohdefr00t_ninja, nopes I can't :( it worked under Ubuntu though, but I can't stand that horrible Gnome :p21:39
Jaycer00t_ninja - so I just move the file to kde.bak and reboot? Log in again? Or what?21:39
r00t_ninjaJayce: yes21:39
noaXessr00t_ninja: in systemsettings i can't change anything.. need do it with cups web interface.. and there are the right settings..21:39
Jaycer00t_ninja - still crashed21:40
JayceGAHHHHHHHHHHDA"FKS'21:40
rohdefcould it be that xinerama isn't installed :S21:40
cragdorWohoo, Multihead, desktop effects and screen order working with nvidia worki21:40
r00t_ninjasounds like a bad upgrade jayce21:40
JayceI just installed Kubuntu last night. I dont want to have to redo it... already :(21:40
Jaycer00t_ninja - sounds like some people have some bad "Upgrade to KDE 4.3.2" guides on the internet then21:41
Jaycefollowed that damn thing to a T and it still gave me this problem21:41
Orion777root'ninja: why does upgrading to 4.3.4 remove wallpaper and video card settings?21:41
r00t_ninjaOrion777: im not sure21:41
r00t_ninjaare you using jaunty?21:41
Orion777not that I know of21:42
noaXesshow can i cahnge the defaut printer settings over kde? need i install system-config-printer-kde?21:43
Orion777basically I have to type kdesudo nvidia-settings every time I boot up21:44
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r00t_ninjaOrion777:  are you saving to xorg?21:44
Orion777no, is that the configuration file?21:44
r00t_ninjayes21:45
r00t_ninjayou have to do save to xorg21:45
r00t_ninjai mean save settinsgs21:45
BluesKajOrion777, create xorg . sudo nvidia-xconfig21:45
noaXessOrion777: or runs sudo nvidia-xconfig21:45
cragdori just fixed my nvidia settings with karmic there was a really good forum post on the ubuntu forums, bare with me and i'll find the link21:46
cragdorhear is the details! I can post my small xorg.xonf file on the web if people want it? It just contains multi head nvidia options21:48
cragdor<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=596313>21:48
Orion777there's two options, save to x configuration file and save current configuration file21:48
Orion777and then I don't know where to save it to21:48
noaXessif anybody has a solution for this forum thread.. then.. please reply in the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133771621:48
Orion777this is in kdesudo nvidia-settings21:48
cragdorOrion777, xorg file is missing by default to nvidia-settings will complain it can't find it or it is incomplete, you need to create a skeleton file first!21:49
Orion777it said validation error, package not found, backing it up, new X configuration file written to (path)21:50
Orion777is that right?21:50
cragdorOrion777, drop to konsole then, sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:51
r00t_ninjashould have worked21:51
cragdorpaste in this21:51
cragdorSection "Device"21:51
cragdor        Identifier      "nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS]"21:51
cragdor        Driver          "nvidia"21:51
cragdor        Option          "TwinView"      "True"21:51
cragdor        Option          "NoLogo"        "True"21:51
FloodBotK3cragdor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:51
cragdorEndSection21:51
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Orion777sigh21:52
Orion777so basically upgrading to 4.3.4 corrupted things?21:52
Orion777I only had kubuntu for a day21:53
r00t_ninjaare you using jaunty?21:53
cragdorOrion777, Are you trying to get multi monitor working, or overide options on the nvidia driver21:53
Orion777override color and digital vibrance and stuff21:53
Orion777contrast, gamma21:54
cragdorok, you need to create a xorg file with just a sections for device and screen, xorg file with karmic is just used to overide defaults now21:54
r00t_ninjaOrion777: ill try it out on my nvidia box21:54
r00t_ninjabrb21:54
cragdorwhat model is your graphics cards?21:55
Orion777gf 8200m21:55
rohdefok, I can set the resolutions differently on the screens, but then it just sets it and crop the image on the small screen, but how do I make it stop mirroring?21:55
BluesKajOrion777, have you installed the nvidia-glx-185 driver ?21:55
cragdorhow many monitors do you have?#21:56
rohdef2, 1 laptop 1 dell21:56
rohdefhere's the image from the Multiple Monitors settings from the System Settings->Display http://imagebin.ca/view/XYbAx5t.html21:57
rohdefhmm found some commands that might do the trick, although not optimal, I'll try21:58
cragdorOrion777, do you know the options for the xorg before you upgraded?21:58
cragdore.g the options in the xorg.conf?21:59
BluesKajcragdor, suggesting someone copy your xorg.conf file is risky advice22:00
cragdorok well you can review this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/337585/ it is just the overide settings for nvidia cards on the new karmic version22:01
r00t_ninjai found the work around22:02
r00t_ninjarun nvidia-settings -l on boot22:02
cragdoruse with multi monitors, uncomment the TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder if you want to change the primary monitor, add additional options as nessary22:02
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rohdefcan I somehow add information to the bot in case the same question as mine arises?22:02
Orion777k, I saved the configuration file both ways in kdesudo nvidia-settings, still won't remember22:03
r00t_ninjaorion777: to load it run the command nvidia0settings -l22:03
r00t_ninjaorion777: to load it run the command nvidia-settings -l22:03
r00t_ninjayou will need to add that to kde startup22:03
tech404What would be the best way to connect to a virtual guests xorg from the host? I want to set the host to be as striped down as possible and just connect to X on the VM from the host.22:04
Orion777-1?22:05
r00t_ninja-l = --load-configuration22:05
tech404I was thinking that just exporting the display would be slow over the virtual network22:05
Orion777I did just run sudo nvidia-xconfig and is this result better?22:05
Orion777Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".22:05
Orion777Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'22:05
Orion777New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'22:05
FloodBotK3Orion777: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.22:05
cragdorOrion777, you will need to open the newly created xorg file and add the options to the driver you require, a list of options is avalible here: http://http.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8774/README/appendix-d.html22:07
r00t_ninjaOrion777: go into system-settings , the advanced tab and then autostart22:07
Orion777then add script?22:08
r00t_ninjai think so22:08
r00t_ninjayou should probably put the full path22:09
r00t_ninja/usr/bin/nvidia-settings -l22:09
Orion777create as symlink?22:09
r00t_ninjayes22:09
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zegenie_hmmm .. anyone have any idea when the 4.4 beta 1 packages are out? :)22:10
Orion777startup or pre-kde startup?22:10
r00t_ninjatry pre-kde startup22:10
Orion777k ty22:11
r00t_ninjai think that starts it at the login manager22:11
Orion777gonna test it, brb22:12
Orion777it just opens xorg.config in kate when I add it to startup22:19
Orion777gives an error, krunner is no longer running or open22:19
manyje1is there someone how could help me with a scanner problem?22:20
r00t_ninjaproblem?22:20
r00t_ninjadont ask to ask just ask22:20
manyje1i have a HP scanjet 5300c and ubuntu linux. i am trying to get this thing to work but i won't find it. it is connected throu a serial port not USB22:22
manyje1any idea? i am pretty new at this. hehe22:22
Orion777rootninja-adding it to autostart doesn't run the script, just opens it in kate22:22
ryanni've recently fresh installed, and i noticed there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst22:23
ryanncan someone familiarize me with what's changed so that I can add some new boot options?22:23
Orion777is it really that complicated to set up a video card22:23
r00t_ninjaOrion777:  remove that from startup22:23
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manyje1i have a HP scanjet 5300c and ubuntu linux. i am trying to get this thing to work but i won't find it. it is connected throu a serial port not USB anyone got an idea?22:25
r00t_ninjaOrion777: copy http://pastebin.com/m5228134e to a file22:25
r00t_ninjaright click on that file , go into properties and make it executable22:25
r00t_ninjathen move it to ~./kde/Autostart22:25
alexander_770515was haben wir denn heute für ein thema?22:26
r00t_ninjathen to make sure your xorg is clean run sudo nvidia-xconfig22:26
Orion777k22:27
alexander_770515ich bin hier sowas von neu und habe überhaupt keine Ahnung?22:28
BluesKaj!de | alexander_77051522:29
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Orion777k, what do I save the file as and to where22:31
alexander_770515so, hoffe bin jetzt im deutschen chat22:31
Orion777k let me try that22:31
r00t_ninjathe name shouldnt matter22:31
BluesKaj!nl | alexander_77051522:31
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joshjtlhey folks how do get "Newly installed applications" into my kmenu?22:32
Orion777where is /kde?22:34
vokimon_anyone having problems in lucid with kde_greet getting in an infinite loop?22:35
BluesKajlucid?22:35
vokimon_yep22:36
BluesKajnot many have access to lucid yet22:36
r00t_ninjaOrion777: its ~/.kde22:36
r00t_ninja~ = your home folder22:36
Orion777there's no kde folder in home22:37
vokimon_i would like to report the problem but it is not clear what does it causes it22:37
r00t_ninjajust open up your homefolder in dolphin22:37
BluesKajvokimon_, where did you get lucid?22:37
Orion777did that22:37
gorgonizervokimon_: black screen, mouse cursor that continually indicates that it is loading?22:37
r00t_ninja-click view -> show hidden folders22:37
vokimon_just change karmic -> lucid in your sources.list22:37
r00t_ninjaim mean hidden files22:37
r00t_ninjathe go into the .kde folder22:38
vokimon_but you can end like me with an unusable system22:38
r00t_ninjathen Autostart22:38
BluesKajnope, not a good idea since the officail alpha date isn't for 2 more days22:38
vokimon_and going back to debian22:38
r00t_ninjaand put that script in there22:38
MoryddCan anyone tell me why I'd get multiple instances of a dialog from kde-apport asking for my password?22:38
Orion777k, now when I restart it should work?22:38
IpSe_DiXiThi i need to upgrade Amarok from 1.4 on 2.2 on Ubuntu, i found this tutorial online http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/03/15/how-to-install-amarok-2-on-ubuntu-810/ and would like to know if I do as it says, will it upgrade it or what? will it keep my ratings and everything? do i need to unistall the 1.4 first? (asking here cuz so they suggested on #amarok) THANKS :D22:38
vokimon_it does not mean that we could test it22:39
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BluesKajvokimon_, well go ahead , you can't expect help for a version that isn't even i alpha yet22:39
vokimon_i am not asking for help22:40
IpSe_DiXiTvokimon_: talking to me? didnt ask if u can test it for me, just asked what would happen according to ur knowledge :D22:40
MoryddIpSe_DiXiT: I haven't done it in some time, but from my experience amarok 1 and amarok 2 are basically entirely different apps22:40
joshjtlhey folks how do get "Newly installed applications" into my kmenu?22:40
IpSe_DiXiTMorydd: so what are you trying to tell me :D ?22:40
[[[-ArGuZ-]]]HI22:40
vokimon_BluesKaj: I am just wanting to report22:40
vokimon_BluesKaj: a bug22:40
MoryddIpSe_DiXiT: unless they've sigificantly improved Amarok 2, I wouldn't upgrade at all.22:41
IpSe_DiXiTMorydd: why so?22:41
Moryddagain, it's been a while since I attempted, but many things I liked about Amarok were just missing from Amarok 2 (musicbrainz interface, podcasts)22:42
[[[-ArGuZ-]]]PARA QUE TANTOS MODOS SI NADIE HABLA22:44
Orion777only change it for my username but not for admin etc?22:45
r00t_ninjayes22:45
Orion777and how to disable password for wallet?22:46
r00t_ninjago into the kmenu22:46
r00t_ninjaand search wallet22:46
r00t_ninjaopen up the wallet management tool22:46
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r00t_ninjaclick on the wallet you want to change the password for - probably kdewallet22:47
r00t_ninjaa new window will come up22:47
r00t_ninjain that window click file -> change password and set the password to nothing22:47
Orion777k thanks22:48
Orion777I will restart, wish me luck with the video card22:48
r00t_ninjaOrion777: you made that script in ~/.kde/Autostart executable right?22:49
Orion777yes22:49
r00t_ninjaok good22:49
ryanni've recently fresh installed, and i noticed there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst but i am able to make changes using startupmanager.  Any ideas what's going on here?  Grub version 1.9722:49
r00t_ninjait should work then22:49
RiotingPacifistryann: grub2 uses /boot/grub/grub.cfg for configuration (or /etc/defaults/grub as an easier way to edit)22:50
BluesKaj!grub | ryann, in the terminal , sudo grub-update , then read this:22:51
ubotturyann, in the terminal , sudo grub-update , then read this:: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.22:51
r00t_ninjaare the nouveau drivers going to be default for nvidia cards in lucid?22:55
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Orion777rootninja22:57
r00t_ninja?22:57
Orion777nvidia-settings -l doesn't do it, even in terminal or autostart22:58
Orion777but kdesudo nvidia-settings does it every time22:58
r00t_ninjaopen up nvidia-settings without root22:58
r00t_ninjaeg just nvidia-settings22:58
r00t_ninjaand then change the settings22:58
ryanni found everything i needed in /etc/defaults/grub22:58
ryannthank you very much!22:58
r00t_ninjaOrion777: nvidia-settings -l probably looks in your home direcotry and because youve been running it as root the settings are only in roots home folder22:59
r00t_ninjaOrion777: you there?23:01
Orion777yes23:03
r00t_ninjadid you run nvidia-settings without root/23:03
r00t_ninja?23:03
Orion777right now it says ~$23:03
Orion777as the path23:03
r00t_ninjarun nvidia-settings23:04
r00t_ninjaand configure your brightness23:04
r00t_ninjaand other stuff23:04
Orion777did that23:04
r00t_ninjawithout root?23:04
Orion777all I know is I'm running it from ~23:05
r00t_ninjaok but you didnt use sudo23:05
r00t_ninjaor kdesudo23:05
Orion777username@username ~$23:05
Orion777right23:05
r00t_ninjaafter that the script should work23:06
Orion777I don't need to save it?23:06
r00t_ninjano23:06
r00t_ninjaif its brightness and stuff make sure you clicked accept23:07
Orion777strangely it won't let me confirm it anymore, it was letting me a minute ok but I missed the timeout, but the digital vibrance was already correct and that did not autostart23:07
Orion777you're saying just by having opened it at all, it should register something new?23:07
Orion777in the system23:08
r00t_ninjawait lets start from the beginning23:08
r00t_ninjaopen up a terminal23:08
r00t_ninjaand type nvidia-settings23:08
Orion777yes, my digital vibrance setting is in there23:09
r00t_ninjamake sure all the brightness settings are right23:09
r00t_ninjaok23:09
Orion777but it has always been in there23:09
Orion777if I restart I'm sure it will let me confirm the brightness settings etc23:09
r00t_ninjalet me just try something on my nvidia box23:09
Orion777I'm just wondering why it won't load the dig vib setting unless I run kdesudo nvidia- settings23:10
Orion777in otherwords, if I could have a script that runs that and then closes it, it would work23:10
Orion777but it always asks for admin password each time it loads so I'd have to remove my admin password23:11
Orion777or script to auto enter it23:11
r00t_ninjapaste bin the contents of the script23:12
Orion777because for some reason auto start nvidia-settings -l doesn't register23:12
Orion777which script23:12
r00t_ninjathats in ~/.kde/Autostart23:12
r00t_ninjaalso make sure you change your digital vibrance settings without kdesudo23:13
r00t_ninjaand accept them23:13
Orion777#!/bin/bash23:15
Orion777nvidia-settings -l23:15
Orion777that's in the script23:15
Orion777there is no accept for dig vibrance23:15
Orion777it just remembers it23:15
Orion777but I can save the config file23:15
Orion777there's two options, save x config file, save current configuration23:16
r00t_ninjano23:16
r00t_ninjaa little countdown appears in the bottom righ corner23:16
r00t_ninjawait23:16
r00t_ninjaso when you open up nvidia-setitngs again it rememberrs it23:16
Orion777yes, that coundown appears for bright/contr/gamma but not for dig vibrance23:17
r00t_ninjaok23:17
r00t_ninjabut it still remembers it?23:17
Orion777only the dig vibrance23:17
r00t_ninjalog out and log back in23:17
bodomhi there23:17
Orion777so I don't need to restart?23:17
r00t_ninjano23:17
bodomis there a way to add a custom mount point for a device?23:17
Orion777k brb23:17
Adam24I have a question23:32
ryanakca!ask | Adam2423:32
ubottuAdam24: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:32
Adam24what's the terminal command to login as root?23:34
r00t_ninjasudo -s23:34
Orion777holy mother of all that's holy and my persistent denial about all that's not23:35
Adam24thank you, r00t_ninja! :D23:35
Orion777lol23:36
r00t_ninjaOrion777: what took so long?23:36
Orion777I had to make sure it was permanent23:36
r00t_ninjadid it work?23:36
Orion777yes, thank you23:37
r00t_ninjanp23:37
Orion777rootninja: so any program(firestarter) that I add to autostart will work?23:38
Orion777and I put startup or prekde startup?23:38
Adam24also, what is the sudo comannd for the flash player 10 package?23:40
bodomso nobody knows how to automount a device? :(23:41
kavurtcan I install KDE 4.4 on Karmic?23:44
maconot yet23:44
macopackaging is in progress23:44
kavurtthanks23:45
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