| cbmuser | ah, the .dsc-file lists the orig-file now | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| cbmuser | it didn't do that before | 00:00 |
| cbmuser | weird | 00:00 |
| cbmuser | ok, do I need orig.tar.gz for launchpad or not | 00:02 |
| cbmuser | I changed it such that it wouldn't upload the orig-file | 00:03 |
| cbmuser | and it works | 00:03 |
| cbmuser | ah, debuild -S -sa | 00:25 |
| MTecknology | !enter | cbmuser | 00:30 |
| ubottu | cbmuser: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! | 00:30 |
| maxb | You need to upload the .orig.tar.gz if and only if it is not already in your PPA (or in Ubuntu) | 00:30 |
| darkpixel | Spam: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/266436/comments/5 | 00:31 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 266436 in mailman "deceptive listinfo "to post a message..."" [Medium,New] | 00:31 |
| thumper | MTecknology: you are in danger of making my other laptop workable again (bug 120434) | 01:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 120434 in ricoh-r5u87x "[needs-packaging] Ricoh R5U87x Webcam userland tools" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120434 | 01:08 |
| MTecknology | thumper: i was on the phone and only read "you are in danger of" | 01:16 |
| MTecknology | thumper: -_- | 01:16 |
| MTecknology | thumper: I'm writing the owner of that project an email. I did the bzr import from mercurial so all that's left to do is learn how to package and push into universe | 01:17 |
| IknowEverything | !ops | 01:17 |
| ubottu | Help! SteveA, kiko-phone, Kamion, daniels, Kinnison, stub, daf, carlos, spiv, BradB, salgado, lifeless, or jamesh | 01:17 |
| thumper | omg | 01:17 |
| thumper | that is an old list | 01:17 |
| spiv | Heh. | 01:17 |
| mwhudson | no kidding | 01:18 |
| MTecknology | kiko-phone ?? | 01:18 |
| spiv | ubottu should learn /msg chanserv access #launchpad list | 01:18 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 01:18 |
| MTecknology | spiv: file a bug... | 01:18 |
| MTecknology | spiv: that's an AWESOME idea actually... however it would need to be converted from a factoid to a plugin | 01:19 |
| jamesh | IknowEverything: was there something you wanted? | 01:21 |
| jamesh | guess not | 01:21 |
| MTecknology | jamesh: I think it was just a failed spam attempt... | 01:21 |
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| mtaylor | thumper: stewart is frustrated with how merge proposal resubmission works | 02:13 |
| thumper | mtaylor: ok | 02:13 |
| thumper | mtaylor: what is his use case? | 02:13 |
| thumper | mtaylor: is he sure he wants to actually resubmit? | 02:13 |
| mtaylor | thumper: well, he wants to say "o hai, I did ur review comments, look at me again" | 02:14 |
| mtaylor | thumper: but then he wants to not lose the conversation thread | 02:14 |
| thumper | mtaylor: we have quite a few outstanding bugs around resubmit right now | 02:14 |
| thumper | mtaylor: I think we should come up with a nicer workflow than resubmitting | 02:15 |
| mtaylor | thumper: agree. resubmitting is a bit harsh | 02:15 |
| thumper | mtaylor: one of the outstanding bugs is around showing the conversation from superseded proposals | 02:15 |
| mtaylor | thumper: cool. I'll tell him that | 02:15 |
| thumper | mtaylor: right now you can request another review from an existing reviewer | 02:16 |
| thumper | mtaylor: but nothing in the UI changes | 02:17 |
| thumper | mtaylor: and the email they get sent probably won't make the most sense | 02:17 |
| thumper | mtaylor: perhaps we should be able to have a completed review, and a pending one... | 02:17 |
| thumper | not sure | 02:17 |
| mtaylor | thumper: I think we depend on state of a merge proposal more than an action that one of those may have triggered | 02:17 |
| thumper | mtaylor: what if requesting a review from an existing reviewer cleared the state in the review box at the top | 02:18 |
| thumper | mtaylor: that way it would appear back in the "reviews I have to do" pile | 02:18 |
| mtaylor | thumper: that would probably be stellar | 02:19 |
| thumper | mtaylor: I'm wondering about the UI for it | 02:19 |
| mtaylor | stupid uis | 02:20 |
| thumper | :) | 02:20 |
| thumper | we could not provide anything additional | 02:20 |
| thumper | but just clear any existing reference to make it pending | 02:20 |
| thumper | there is already an email command to request a reviewer | 02:21 |
| thumper | did you know about that? | 02:21 |
| mtaylor | yes. I've actually even used it before | 02:21 |
| thumper | ok | 02:22 |
| thumper | I think we can do this quite easily then | 02:22 |
| thumper | I'm not sure when I'll get to it though | 02:23 |
| thumper | I have several other code-review things I'm doing right now | 02:23 |
| thumper | mtaylor: I'll file a bug | 02:23 |
| mtaylor | cool.... well, it's not _that_ urgent -it is only stewart after all | 02:23 |
| mtaylor | :) | 02:24 |
| * mtaylor must run for a bit... | 02:24 | |
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| twb | Hiya. I just wanted to say thanks for archiving upstream Debian releases, since I'm migrating old releases of a package into VCS, and it has some versions snapshots.d.n doesn't | 07:20 |
| twb | e.g. dget https://launchpad.net/debian/+archive/primary/+files/mg_20090107-1.dsc | 07:20 |
| dholbach | hiya | 08:19 |
| dholbach | is bug pages funny for somebody of you too? | 08:20 |
| * dholbach tries not to use edge | 08:20 | |
| dholbach | ah, regular LP works | 08:20 |
| dholbach | with edge the right part of the bug pages (subscribers and stuff) is missing | 08:21 |
| tsimpson | yeah, the CSS is probably messed up | 08:21 |
| * dholbach nods | 08:21 | |
| dholbach | hi tsimpson | 08:21 |
| tsimpson | \o | 08:21 |
| dholbach | :) | 08:21 |
| wgrant | I can't see what broke it, but it has been reported. | 08:22 |
| dholbach | thanks wgrant | 08:22 |
| tsimpson | wgrant: I'm seeing reset.css, fonts.css and grids.css giving 403 Forbidden | 08:23 |
| wgrant | r9968 looks possibly relevant. | 08:24 |
| wgrant | Yeah, I think it's the only one it could be. | 08:25 |
| * henninge reviewed that change ... :/ | 08:26 | |
| henninge | but I looked at all pages | 08:26 |
| henninge | wgrant: do you think the big word "infrastructure" in the cloud is breaking it? | 08:27 |
| * henninge tries with firebug | 08:27 | |
| wgrant | henninge: grids.css is missing. | 08:28 |
| wgrant | As tsimpson says. | 08:28 |
| henninge | oh | 08:28 |
| wgrant | I don't know why they're 403ing, but that's definitely the problem. | 08:29 |
| wgrant | Hm, so that's all the YUI CSS. | 08:29 |
| dholbach | where's the LP police who can change permissions? :) | 08:30 |
| wgrant | Maybe a LOSA needs to poke the Apache configs in the eye. | 08:31 |
| henninge | wgrant: I will chase one up, although spm just bowed out and I am not sure if mthaddon is already up. | 08:33 |
| henninge | dholbach, wgrant, tsimpson: Fixed. | 08:47 |
| henninge | kudos to mthaddon | 08:48 |
| tsimpson | much better :) | 08:49 |
| wgrant | henninge, mthaddon: Thanks. | 08:49 |
| mthaddon | wgrant: we switched to building the code centrally before deploying and this caused issues with hard coded paths - will need to figure out a way around this | 08:50 |
| dholbach | henninge, mthaddon, tsimpson, wgrant: THANKS :) | 08:50 |
| wgrant | mthaddon: Ah, fun. | 08:54 |
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| poolie | oh ffs, how many timeouts? | 10:48 |
| poolie | ^- clue that i should sign off | 10:48 |
| poolie | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1438EA543 etc | 10:51 |
| ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1438EA543 | 10:51 |
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| chmouel | hello anyone here? | 11:39 |
| chmouel | is there a problem with git import from launchpad ? ie: http://is.gd/5fQLU | 11:39 |
| wgrant | chmouel: There's a space at the start of that URL. | 11:41 |
| wgrant | chmouel: I suggest deleting and recreating that import. | 11:42 |
| wgrant | This time with the correct URL. | 11:42 |
| chmouel | oh you right cheers... | 11:42 |
| henninge | thanks wgrant | 11:42 |
| chmouel | so I am thinking instead to drop github as remote branch and get used to bazaar i can't seem to be able to push branch there i have done the usual bzr init bzr commit stuff and tried to push it to bazaar but i get this error http://is.gd/5fQX4 I am sure my ssh key works is properly setted, any idea? | 11:45 |
| chmouel | oh ok that's probably because it's already exist | 11:46 |
| chmouel | nevermind then | 11:46 |
| wgrant | chmouel: It's because it already exists as an imported (ie. read-only) branch. | 11:51 |
| Omahn | Are other people getting timeout errors when trying to submit bug reports at the moment? (Error ID: OOPS-1438M1820) | 11:51 |
| ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1438M1820 | 11:51 |
| Omahn | Ahhh, ^^^ is that me? :) | 11:51 |
| tabgal | Omahn, yes yes yes | 11:53 |
| * Omahn steps back from the keyboard | 11:53 | |
| wgrant | chmouel: Did you mean to push a branch with only one revision? Don't you have history on github? | 11:53 |
| tabgal | Omahn, I'm not sure about the link ubottu posted, well... needs a user/passwd | 11:54 |
| tabgal | Omahn, but yeah, I'm trying to post a bug and I can't do it... | 11:54 |
| henninge | Omahn, tabgal: That link would not help atm either, as oopses only copied there once a day. | 11:55 |
| wgrant | tabgal, Omahn: Try using a shorter summary to start with. Once you've got past the step that normally times out, you can put back the full summary. | 11:55 |
| Omahn | wgrant: I'll give that a go, thanks. | 11:55 |
| Omahn | I'm in. Yeah. | 11:57 |
| Omahn | Submitted. | 11:59 |
| Omahn | Thanks wgrant. | 11:59 |
| wgrant | Omahn: np | 12:00 |
| chmouel | wgrant: yeah i have on github, i just wanted to push the full branch and it works well now that i deleted the imported one since i don't really need it | 12:08 |
| chmouel | only thing is bzr-git seems to give me some weird errors but i may just going to start from scratch and loose my history | 12:08 |
| wgrant | chmouel: What sort of weird errors? | 12:09 |
| chmouel | wgrant: http://is.gd/5fS7h | 12:11 |
| wgrant | chmouel: That's... interesting. What if you branch that git branch into a bzr branch locally? | 12:13 |
| chmouel | wgrant: apologise but i am kind of newbie with bazaar but how do a bzr branch locally from a git repo via git-bzr ? | 12:15 |
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| chmouel | i am trying to updated to latest bzr-git to at least see if its not the problem there | 12:17 |
| wgrant | chmouel: bzr branch ~/GIT/nautilus-cloud-files-plugin /directory/in/which/to/create/the/branch | 12:17 |
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| bjsnider | is there any way i can get access to the config.err file produced by a build failure? | 13:37 |
| lfaraone | For projects that use Google Code, is there one tracker I can link them to, or does each gcode project need its own tracker registered? | 13:47 |
| Daviey | bjsnider: Migth be easier to use pbuilder locally. | 13:51 |
| bjsnider | yeah, it builds in pbuilder | 13:52 |
| Daviey | oh lovely. | 13:53 |
| bjsnider | well, i found out what the problem is | 13:53 |
| bjsnider | so no big deal | 13:54 |
| Daviey | bjsnider: what was it, out of interest? | 13:54 |
| bjsnider | well, i was building a new version of ffmpeg-extra | 13:55 |
| bjsnider | in pbuilder, i can't use my new x264 package to build against because it's not a repository, so i used the regular karmic repos | 13:56 |
| bjsnider | but x264 is so different that basically now the ABI is i dunno 100% different from the one int he karmic repos | 13:56 |
| bjsnider | i thought i had the latest ffmpeg-debian as per reinhard's instructions, but i didn't | 13:57 |
| bjsnider | so the ABI, i think i'm using the right tgerm there, was wrong and it was telling me libx264 wasn't present | 13:57 |
| bjsnider | because it was checking for a function that is now deprecated | 13:57 |
| bjsnider | those x264 devs throw all of the code out every 3 months or something. that is a very heavily developed project | 13:58 |
| lfaraone | Hey, accessing https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu has been giving me timeouts for the last 10 minutes. ( OOPS-1438EA790 ) | 13:58 |
| ubottu | https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1438EA790 | 13:58 |
| bjsnider | they told me daily tarballs aren't even fast enough to keep up | 13:58 |
| lfaraone | Nevermind. | 13:59 |
| Puzzles | Can anyone help with validating an email address/launchpad account? When I try to log in, it tells me I need to validate my email address, and sends me an email containing a link to do this. When I click the link, it tells me I'm already validated and don't need to. And so on, and so on. | 14:08 |
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| maxb | Mr_Puzzles: You might like to ping the help contact, as listed in the channel topic | 14:20 |
| Mr_Puzzles | No need, it sorted itself out after I tried logging on from the launchpad help page. Thanks anyway | 14:22 |
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| Rova | A question about translation. What does the _ mean? Does it mean that the next letter is going to be underlined and therefor punctuates that it's a hotkey? | 15:12 |
| henninge | Rova: you got it! ;) | 15:13 |
| Rova | henninge, Hmm, I'll have to change some of my translations to reflect that then, ouch ^^ | 15:13 |
| lfaraone | Hey, can someone quickly confirm bug 494055? It requires two clicks, and is trivial. | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 494055 in malone ""Report bug upstream" link uses literal "&" in URL." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494055 | 15:14 |
| Rova | Btw about translations, you should be able to comment and discuss translations. | 15:15 |
| henninge | lfaraone: The bug contacts for the application (LP Bugs) will be notified and then triage the bug. | 15:15 |
| henninge | lfaraone: thank you for your bug report ;) | 15:16 |
| Rova | What does triage actually mean in this context? | 15:17 |
| henninge | Rova: confirm it and determine its importance | 15:17 |
| Rova | henninge, Okey, and do you know what the protocole is if the hotkey is not possible to get into the translated sentance, shuld I simply skip it? | 15:18 |
| henninge | Rova: that kind of stuff should be discussed with the translation team, if there is one. | 15:19 |
| henninge | Rova: what are you translating and which language? | 15:19 |
| Rova | Buh, that was a very long sentance with very poor grammar btw. Hmm I guess I should contact the swedish Ubuntu translations team. I'm translating Docky | 15:19 |
| Rova | Docky was just recently forked off of Gnome Do so I'm the first one translating it. It's assigned to the Ubuntu translation team | 15:21 |
| henninge | Rova: yes, you should do that. | 15:25 |
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| tumbleweed | howdy, I've always wondered what +edit-commit-message on a merge request does | 16:00 |
| tumbleweed | doesn't appear to be documented anywhere | 16:00 |
| henninge | tumbleweed: it's in the ui now. You can add a commit message to a merge proposal. | 16:03 |
| tumbleweed | henninge: yeah, it's always had something in the UI | 16:03 |
| tumbleweed | but when is that used? | 16:04 |
| tumbleweed | do auto-branch-landers use it? | 16:04 |
| henninge | tumbleweed: in the case of launchpad it is used by the "ec2 land" uses it to construct the commit message. | 16:04 |
| henninge | (too much "use" in that last sentence ;) | 16:05 |
| tumbleweed | ok, but for anything else it goes unused | 16:05 |
| henninge | tumbleweed: Yep, at least that is the only use I know of. | 16:06 |
| tumbleweed | henninge: thanks | 16:06 |
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| abentley | tumbleweed: Also used by tarmac, I believe, and by a plugin I'm working on. | 18:07 |
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| chmouel | hey guys, i have been looking over the help but can't find anything do you know how i can delete a ppa ? | 18:51 |
| chmouel | i can't find the option anywhere | 18:51 |
| blackxored | hello team | 18:54 |
| blackxored | I want to rename my account | 18:54 |
| blackxored | is it possible | 18:54 |
| blackxored | ? | 18:54 |
| bigjools | chmouel: ppa deletion is not supported (yet) but if you file a question an admin can disable it | 18:56 |
| chmouel | bigjools: cool never mind not a big deal, tks | 18:57 |
| bigjools | blackxored: yes it's possible except if you have a PPA (or a mailing list I think) | 18:57 |
| blackxored | bigjools, I have a ppa | 18:57 |
| blackxored | but now I want to rename it | 18:57 |
| blackxored | for universe-contributors membership and futurely others | 18:57 |
| blackxored | I just want adrianperez | 18:57 |
| bigjools | blackxored: an admin can do that but the URL to your PPA would change | 18:57 |
| blackxored | or blackxored which is my requested debian account name | 18:57 |
| blackxored | bigjools, no big deal I don't hold any packages there by now | 18:58 |
| bigjools | blackxored: ok, file a question on the Launchpad project and someone will get to it over the next day | 18:58 |
| blackxored | there's anyone here that would prevent me from doing that? | 19:02 |
| blackxored | also if that's negative, should I file under ubuntu right | 19:03 |
| chmouel | bigjools: is there a way to remove a project? | 19:21 |
| oojah | chmouel: See https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Closing | 19:24 |
| chmouel | oojah: cheers | 19:26 |
| MTecknology | thumper: ping | 19:40 |
| AnAnt | Hello, when is launchpad going to support 3.0 (quilt) source packages ? | 19:42 |
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| bdrung | connected to AnAnt question: did the last launchpad release include the 3.0 (quilt) support? | 19:47 |
| mwhudson | AnAnt: wgrant has been working on that, i think the answer is "soon-ish" | 19:48 |
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| bigjools | AnAnt, mwhudson: it's kinda tricky, we are testing a backported dpkg on hardy and if that works we'll be ready to support it | 19:59 |
| bigjools | and bdrung ^ | 20:00 |
| bdrung | bigjools: will it be announced when it's done? | 20:21 |
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| bigjools | bdrung: from the rooftops | 20:21 |
| * blackxored listens | 20:21 | |
| blackxored | I have a merge for azureus just to remove 3.0 format, can you ellaborate on "soon-ish" | 20:21 |
| bdrung | bigjools: so i can buy the local newspaper and it will be the news on the front page? ;) | 20:22 |
| wgrant | blackxored: Probably a little over a week, assuming nothing goes wrong. | 20:23 |
| bigjools | either next week if everything plays ball, or at the end of January if not | 20:23 |
| bdrung | blackxored: i would wait instead of removing the 3.0 format | 20:23 |
| bigjools | but if it gets really urgent and it misses next week's release I might cherry pick it | 20:23 |
| wgrant | bigjools: The archive admins are pretty unhappy at this point. | 20:24 |
| bigjools | bdrung: yes, and send cash to wgrant :) | 20:24 |
| bigjools | wgrant: I can imagine | 20:24 |
| bdrung | :) | 20:24 |
| bigjools | too much work, not enough time and people to do it :( | 20:24 |
| bdrung | bigjools: that's the normal scenario | 20:25 |
| blackxored | can some admin rename my account at launchpad, plz? | 20:33 |
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| micahg | blackxored: you should be able to rename your own account | 20:48 |
| blackxored | micahg, I have a ppa | 20:48 |
| blackxored | micahg, I can't | 20:48 |
| micahg | ah | 20:49 |
| * micahg sees that now :) | 20:49 | |
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| blackxored | so? | 20:53 |
| * micahg is not an admin | 20:54 | |
| micahg | blackxored: I think you have to file a request here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad | 20:54 |
| blackxored | ohhh right that solved my question | 20:55 |
| blackxored | micahg, done | 21:08 |
| ruphy | hello | 21:20 |
| ruphy | https://launchpad.net/~fintiminti nice way to spam, this is getting linked | 21:20 |
| jamalta | how do you make a super-project in launchpad? | 21:20 |
| ruphy | and it's not very good | 21:20 |
| jamalta | or convert a project to one | 21:20 |
| ruphy | is there any admin? | 21:20 |
| micahg | jamalta: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Registering#Project%20groups | 21:21 |
| blackxored | micahg, I filed that now what? | 21:22 |
| jamalta | micahg: ah thanks | 21:22 |
| micahg | blackxored: wait for an admin to do it :) | 21:22 |
| blackxored | micahg, all right, thanks | 21:23 |
| soren | Can I kindly request a speedy review of https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~soren/autotest/trunk ? | 21:47 |
| mwhudson | soren: done | 21:52 |
| mwhudson | soren: i hope the url is right :-) | 21:52 |
| popey | is there anyone about who knows about launchpad polls? | 21:52 |
| soren | mwhudson: Heh :) Thanks a lot! | 21:52 |
| popey | basically I want to create a poll for a team, and list 6 people for which the team can vote. They get a "yes/no" vote for each one, we just want to make sure we get more yes than no for each individual. There are 6 positions and 6 people, so we're not interested in how many votes one person gets over another, merely how many yes vs no each person gets... | 21:54 |
| popey | is that possible with launchpad polls? | 21:54 |
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| Riddell | spam https://edge.launchpad.net/~fintiminti | 22:09 |
| mwhudson | popey: i guess you could do that with 6 polls, one for each person... | 22:11 |
| mwhudson | popey: but otherwise, no i don't think launchpad polls are very flexible | 22:12 |
| popey | ugh, thats a bit messy | 22:12 |
| mwhudson | might be wrong thoug | 22:12 |
| popey | thanks | 22:12 |
| mwhudson | try a few things out on staging? | 22:12 |
| popey | no mails will go out from staging? | 22:12 |
| wgrant | popey: IIRC the TB elections were done with one LP poll for each person. | 22:12 |
| popey | ok, i can see that | 22:14 |
| popey | thank helps | 22:14 |
| popey | *that | 22:14 |
| popey | thanks | 22:14 |
| bdmurray | So I set the contact address for ubuntu-bugcontrol to the launchpad mailing list then subscribed the team to a bug, but the mailing list is not getting an e-mail about the bug report. Shouldn't it? | 22:16 |
| FFEMTcJ | Is it just me or is something wrong with the layout of the right column of launchpad pages? | 23:00 |
| fta | d'oh! | 23:06 |
| fta | dh_md5sums -pchromium-browser-dbg | 23:06 |
| fta | md5sum: write error: No space left on device | 23:06 |
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