[00:00] <cbmuser> ah, the .dsc-file lists the orig-file now
[00:00] <cbmuser> it didn't do that before
[00:00] <cbmuser> weird
[00:02] <cbmuser> ok, do I need orig.tar.gz for launchpad or not
[00:03] <cbmuser> I changed it such that it wouldn't upload the orig-file
[00:03] <cbmuser> and it works
[00:25] <cbmuser> ah, debuild -S -sa
[00:30] <MTecknology> !enter | cbmuser
[00:30] <maxb> You need to upload the .orig.tar.gz if and only if it is not already in your PPA (or in Ubuntu)
[00:31] <darkpixel> Spam: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/266436/comments/5
[01:08] <thumper> MTecknology: you are in danger of making my other laptop workable again (bug 120434)
[01:16] <MTecknology> thumper: i was on the phone and only read "you are in danger of"
[01:16] <MTecknology> thumper: -_-
[01:17] <MTecknology> thumper: I'm writing the owner of that project an email. I did the bzr import from mercurial so all that's left to do is learn how to package and push into universe
[01:17] <IknowEverything> !ops
[01:17] <thumper> omg
[01:17] <thumper> that is an old list
[01:17] <spiv> Heh.
[01:18] <mwhudson> no kidding
[01:18] <MTecknology> kiko-phone ??
[01:18] <spiv> ubottu should learn /msg chanserv access #launchpad list
[01:18] <MTecknology> spiv: file a bug...
[01:19] <MTecknology> spiv: that's an AWESOME idea actually... however it would need to be converted from a factoid to a plugin
[01:21] <jamesh> IknowEverything: was there something you wanted?
[01:21] <jamesh> guess not
[01:21] <MTecknology> jamesh: I think it was just a failed spam attempt...
[02:13] <mtaylor> thumper: stewart is frustrated with how merge proposal resubmission works
[02:13] <thumper> mtaylor: ok
[02:13] <thumper> mtaylor: what is his use case?
[02:13] <thumper> mtaylor: is he sure he wants to actually resubmit?
[02:14] <mtaylor> thumper: well, he wants to say "o hai, I did ur review comments, look at me again"
[02:14] <mtaylor> thumper: but then he wants to not lose the conversation thread
[02:14] <thumper> mtaylor: we have quite a few outstanding bugs around resubmit right now
[02:15] <thumper> mtaylor: I think we should come up with a nicer workflow than resubmitting
[02:15] <mtaylor> thumper: agree. resubmitting is a bit harsh
[02:15] <thumper> mtaylor: one of the outstanding bugs is around showing the conversation from superseded proposals
[02:15] <mtaylor> thumper: cool. I'll tell him that
[02:16] <thumper> mtaylor: right now you can request another review from an existing reviewer
[02:17] <thumper> mtaylor: but nothing in the UI changes
[02:17] <thumper> mtaylor: and the email they get sent probably won't make the most sense
[02:17] <thumper> mtaylor: perhaps we should be able to have a completed review, and a pending one...
[02:17] <thumper> not sure
[02:17] <mtaylor> thumper: I think we depend on state of a merge proposal more than an action that one of those may have triggered
[02:18] <thumper> mtaylor: what if requesting a review from an existing reviewer cleared the state in the review box at the top
[02:18] <thumper> mtaylor: that way it would appear back in the "reviews I have to do" pile
[02:19] <mtaylor> thumper: that would probably be stellar
[02:19] <thumper> mtaylor: I'm wondering about the UI for it
[02:20] <mtaylor> stupid uis
[02:20] <thumper> :)
[02:20] <thumper> we could not provide anything additional
[02:20] <thumper> but just clear any existing reference to make it pending
[02:21] <thumper> there is already an email command to request a reviewer
[02:21] <thumper> did you know about that?
[02:21] <mtaylor> yes. I've actually even used it before
[02:22] <thumper> ok
[02:22] <thumper> I think we can do this quite easily then
[02:23] <thumper> I'm not sure when I'll get to it though
[02:23] <thumper> I have several other code-review things I'm doing right now
[02:23] <thumper> mtaylor: I'll file a bug
[02:23] <mtaylor> cool.... well, it's not _that_ urgent -it is only stewart after all
[02:24] <mtaylor> :)
[02:24]  * mtaylor must run for a bit...
[07:20] <twb> Hiya.  I just wanted to say thanks for archiving upstream Debian releases, since I'm migrating old releases of a package into VCS, and it has some versions snapshots.d.n doesn't
[07:20] <twb> e.g. dget https://launchpad.net/debian/+archive/primary/+files/mg_20090107-1.dsc
[08:19] <dholbach> hiya
[08:20] <dholbach> is bug pages funny for somebody of you too?
[08:20]  * dholbach tries not to use edge
[08:20] <dholbach> ah, regular LP works
[08:21] <dholbach> with edge the right part of the bug pages (subscribers and stuff) is missing
[08:21] <tsimpson> yeah, the CSS is probably messed up
[08:21]  * dholbach nods
[08:21] <dholbach> hi tsimpson
[08:21] <tsimpson> \o
[08:21] <dholbach> :)
[08:22] <wgrant> I can't see what broke it, but it has been reported.
[08:22] <dholbach> thanks wgrant
[08:23] <tsimpson> wgrant: I'm seeing reset.css, fonts.css and grids.css giving 403 Forbidden
[08:24] <wgrant> r9968 looks possibly relevant.
[08:25] <wgrant> Yeah, I think it's the only one it could be.
[08:26]  * henninge reviewed that change ... :/
[08:26] <henninge> but I looked at all pages
[08:27] <henninge> wgrant: do you think the big word "infrastructure" in the cloud is breaking it?
[08:27]  * henninge tries with firebug
[08:28] <wgrant> henninge: grids.css is missing.
[08:28] <wgrant> As tsimpson says.
[08:28] <henninge> oh
[08:29] <wgrant> I don't know why they're 403ing, but that's definitely the problem.
[08:29] <wgrant> Hm, so that's all the YUI CSS.
[08:30] <dholbach> where's the LP police who can change permissions? :)
[08:31] <wgrant> Maybe a LOSA needs to poke the Apache configs in the eye.
[08:33] <henninge> wgrant: I will chase one up, although spm just bowed out and I am not sure if mthaddon is already up.
[08:47] <henninge> dholbach, wgrant, tsimpson: Fixed.
[08:48] <henninge> kudos to mthaddon
[08:49] <tsimpson> much better :)
[08:49] <wgrant> henninge, mthaddon: Thanks.
[08:50] <mthaddon> wgrant: we switched to building the code centrally before deploying and this caused issues with hard coded paths - will need to figure out a way around this
[08:50] <dholbach> henninge, mthaddon, tsimpson, wgrant: THANKS :)
[08:54] <wgrant> mthaddon: Ah, fun.
[10:48] <poolie> oh ffs, how many timeouts?
[10:48] <poolie> ^- clue that i should sign off
[10:51] <poolie> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1438EA543 etc
[11:39] <chmouel> hello anyone here?
[11:39] <chmouel> is there a problem with git import from launchpad ? ie: http://is.gd/5fQLU
[11:41] <wgrant> chmouel: There's a space at the start of that URL.
[11:42] <wgrant> chmouel: I suggest deleting and recreating that import.
[11:42] <wgrant> This time with the correct URL.
[11:42] <chmouel> oh you right cheers...
[11:42] <henninge> thanks wgrant
[11:45] <chmouel> so I am thinking instead to drop github as remote branch and get used to bazaar i can't seem to be able to push branch there i have done the usual bzr init bzr commit stuff and tried to push it to bazaar but i get this error http://is.gd/5fQX4 I am sure my ssh key works is properly setted, any idea?
[11:46] <chmouel> oh ok that's probably because it's already exist
[11:46] <chmouel> nevermind then
[11:51] <wgrant> chmouel: It's because it already exists as an imported (ie. read-only) branch.
[11:51] <Omahn> Are other people getting timeout errors when trying to submit bug reports at the moment? (Error ID: OOPS-1438M1820)
[11:51] <Omahn> Ahhh, ^^^ is that me? :)
[11:53] <tabgal> Omahn, yes yes yes
[11:53]  * Omahn steps back from the keyboard
[11:53] <wgrant> chmouel: Did you mean to push a branch with only one revision? Don't you have history on github?
[11:54] <tabgal> Omahn, I'm not sure about the link ubottu posted, well... needs a user/passwd
[11:54] <tabgal> Omahn, but yeah, I'm trying to post a bug and I can't do it...
[11:55] <henninge> Omahn, tabgal: That link would not help atm either, as oopses only copied there once a day.
[11:55] <wgrant> tabgal, Omahn: Try using a shorter summary to start with. Once you've got past the step that normally times out, you can put back the full summary.
[11:55] <Omahn> wgrant: I'll give that a go, thanks.
[11:57] <Omahn> I'm in. Yeah.
[11:59] <Omahn> Submitted.
[11:59] <Omahn> Thanks wgrant.
[12:00] <wgrant> Omahn: np
[12:08] <chmouel> wgrant: yeah i have on github, i just wanted to push the full branch and it works well now that i deleted the imported one since i don't really need it
[12:08] <chmouel> only thing is bzr-git seems to give me some weird errors but i may just going to start from scratch and loose my history
[12:09] <wgrant> chmouel: What sort of weird errors?
[12:11] <chmouel> wgrant: http://is.gd/5fS7h
[12:13] <wgrant> chmouel: That's... interesting. What if you branch that git branch into a bzr branch locally?
[12:15] <chmouel> wgrant: apologise but i am kind of newbie with bazaar but how do a bzr branch locally from a git repo via git-bzr ?
[12:17] <chmouel> i am trying to updated to latest bzr-git to at least see if its not the problem there
[12:17] <wgrant> chmouel: bzr branch ~/GIT/nautilus-cloud-files-plugin /directory/in/which/to/create/the/branch
[13:37] <bjsnider> is there any way i can get access to the config.err file produced by a build failure?
[13:47] <lfaraone> For projects that use Google Code, is there one tracker I can link them to, or does each gcode project need its own tracker registered?
[13:51] <Daviey> bjsnider: Migth be easier to use pbuilder locally.
[13:52] <bjsnider> yeah, it builds in pbuilder
[13:53] <Daviey> oh lovely.
[13:53] <bjsnider> well, i found out what the problem is
[13:54] <bjsnider> so no big deal
[13:54] <Daviey> bjsnider: what was it, out of interest?
[13:55] <bjsnider> well, i was building a new version of ffmpeg-extra
[13:56] <bjsnider> in pbuilder, i can't use my new x264 package to build against because it's not a repository, so i used the regular karmic repos
[13:56] <bjsnider> but x264 is so different that basically now the ABI is i dunno 100% different from the one int he karmic repos
[13:57] <bjsnider> i thought i had the latest ffmpeg-debian as per reinhard's instructions, but i didn't
[13:57] <bjsnider> so the ABI, i think i'm using the right tgerm there, was wrong and it was telling me libx264 wasn't present
[13:57] <bjsnider> because it was checking for a function that is now deprecated
[13:58] <bjsnider> those x264 devs throw all of the code out every 3 months or something. that is a very heavily developed project
[13:58] <lfaraone> Hey, accessing https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu has been giving me timeouts for the last 10 minutes. ( OOPS-1438EA790 )
[13:58] <bjsnider> they told me daily tarballs aren't even fast enough to keep up
[13:59] <lfaraone> Nevermind.
[14:08] <Puzzles> Can anyone help with validating an email address/launchpad account? When I try to log in, it tells me I need to validate my email address, and sends me an email containing a link to do this. When I click the link, it tells me I'm already validated and don't need to. And so on, and so on.
[14:20] <maxb> Mr_Puzzles: You might like to ping the help contact, as listed in the channel topic
[14:22] <Mr_Puzzles> No need, it sorted itself out after I tried logging on from the launchpad help page. Thanks anyway
[15:12] <Rova> A question about translation. What does the _ mean? Does it mean that the next letter is going to be underlined and therefor punctuates that it's a hotkey?
[15:13] <henninge> Rova: you got it! ;)
[15:13] <Rova> henninge, Hmm, I'll have to change some of my translations to reflect that then, ouch ^^
[15:14] <lfaraone> Hey, can someone quickly confirm bug 494055? It requires two clicks, and is trivial.
[15:15] <Rova> Btw about translations, you should be able to comment and discuss translations.
[15:15] <henninge> lfaraone: The bug contacts for the application (LP Bugs) will be notified and then triage the bug.
[15:16] <henninge> lfaraone: thank you for your bug report ;)
[15:17] <Rova> What does triage actually mean in this context?
[15:17] <henninge> Rova: confirm it and determine its importance
[15:18] <Rova> henninge, Okey, and do you know what the protocole is if the hotkey is not possible to get into the translated sentance, shuld I simply skip it?
[15:19] <henninge> Rova: that kind of stuff should be discussed with the translation team, if there is one.
[15:19] <henninge> Rova: what are you translating and which language?
[15:19] <Rova> Buh, that was a very long sentance with very poor grammar btw. Hmm I guess I should contact the swedish Ubuntu translations team. I'm translating Docky
[15:21] <Rova> Docky was just recently forked off of Gnome Do so I'm the first one translating it. It's assigned to the Ubuntu translation team
[15:25] <henninge> Rova: yes, you should do that.
[16:00] <tumbleweed> howdy, I've always wondered what +edit-commit-message on a merge request does
[16:00] <tumbleweed> doesn't appear to be documented anywhere
[16:03] <henninge> tumbleweed: it's in the ui now. You can add a commit message to a merge proposal.
[16:03] <tumbleweed> henninge: yeah, it's always had something in the UI
[16:04] <tumbleweed> but when is that used?
[16:04] <tumbleweed> do auto-branch-landers use it?
[16:04] <henninge> tumbleweed: in the case of launchpad it is used by the "ec2 land" uses it to construct the commit message.
[16:05] <henninge> (too much "use" in that last sentence ;)
[16:05] <tumbleweed> ok, but for anything else it goes unused
[16:06] <henninge> tumbleweed: Yep, at least that is the only use I know of.
[16:06] <tumbleweed> henninge: thanks
[18:07] <abentley> tumbleweed: Also used by tarmac, I believe, and by a plugin I'm working on.
[18:51] <chmouel> hey guys, i have been looking over the help but can't find anything do you know how i can delete a ppa ?
[18:51] <chmouel> i can't find the option anywhere
[18:54] <blackxored> hello team
[18:54] <blackxored> I want to rename my account
[18:54] <blackxored> is it possible
[18:54] <blackxored> ?
[18:56] <bigjools> chmouel: ppa deletion is not supported (yet) but if you file a question an admin can disable it
[18:57] <chmouel> bigjools: cool never mind not a big deal, tks
[18:57] <bigjools> blackxored: yes it's possible except if you have a PPA (or a mailing list I think)
[18:57] <blackxored> bigjools, I have a ppa
[18:57] <blackxored> but now I want to rename it
[18:57] <blackxored> for universe-contributors membership and futurely others
[18:57] <blackxored> I just want adrianperez
[18:57] <bigjools> blackxored: an admin can do that but the URL to your PPA would change
[18:57] <blackxored> or blackxored which is my requested debian account name
[18:58] <blackxored> bigjools, no big deal I don't hold any packages there by now
[18:58] <bigjools> blackxored: ok, file a question on the Launchpad project and someone will get to it over the next day
[19:02] <blackxored> there's anyone here that would prevent me from doing that?
[19:03] <blackxored> also if that's negative, should I file under ubuntu right
[19:21] <chmouel> bigjools: is there a way to remove a project?
[19:24] <oojah> chmouel: See https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Closing
[19:26] <chmouel> oojah: cheers
[19:40] <MTecknology> thumper: ping
[19:42] <AnAnt> Hello, when is launchpad going to support 3.0 (quilt) source packages ?
[19:47] <bdrung> connected to AnAnt question: did the last launchpad release include the 3.0 (quilt) support?
[19:48] <mwhudson> AnAnt: wgrant has been working on that, i think the answer is "soon-ish"
[19:59] <bigjools> AnAnt, mwhudson: it's kinda tricky, we are testing a backported dpkg on hardy and if that works we'll be ready to support it
[20:00] <bigjools> and bdrung ^
[20:21] <bdrung> bigjools: will it be announced when it's done?
[20:21] <bigjools> bdrung: from the rooftops
[20:21]  * blackxored listens 
[20:21] <blackxored> I have a merge for azureus just to remove 3.0 format, can you ellaborate on "soon-ish"
[20:22] <bdrung> bigjools: so i can buy the local newspaper and it will be the news on the front page? ;)
[20:23] <wgrant> blackxored: Probably a little over a week, assuming nothing goes wrong.
[20:23] <bigjools> either next week if everything plays ball, or at the end of January if not
[20:23] <bdrung> blackxored: i would wait instead of removing the 3.0 format
[20:23] <bigjools> but if it gets really urgent and it misses next week's release I might cherry pick it
[20:24] <wgrant> bigjools: The archive admins are pretty unhappy at this point.
[20:24] <bigjools> bdrung: yes, and send cash to wgrant :)
[20:24] <bigjools> wgrant: I can imagine
[20:24] <bdrung> :)
[20:24] <bigjools> too much work, not enough time and people to do it :(
[20:25] <bdrung> bigjools: that's the normal scenario
[20:33] <blackxored> can some admin rename my account at launchpad, plz?
[20:48] <micahg> blackxored: you should be able to rename your own account
[20:48] <blackxored> micahg, I have a ppa
[20:48] <blackxored> micahg, I can't
[20:49] <micahg> ah
[20:49]  * micahg sees that now :)
[20:53] <blackxored> so?
[20:54]  * micahg is not an admin
[20:54] <micahg> blackxored: I think you have to file a request here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[20:55] <blackxored> ohhh right that solved my question
[21:08] <blackxored> micahg, done
[21:20] <ruphy> hello
[21:20] <ruphy> https://launchpad.net/~fintiminti nice way to spam, this is getting linked
[21:20] <jamalta> how do you make a super-project in launchpad?
[21:20] <ruphy> and it's not very good
[21:20] <jamalta> or convert a project to one
[21:20] <ruphy> is there any admin?
[21:21] <micahg> jamalta: https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Registering#Project%20groups
[21:22] <blackxored> micahg, I filed that now what?
[21:22] <jamalta> micahg: ah thanks
[21:22] <micahg> blackxored: wait for an admin to do it :)
[21:23] <blackxored> micahg, all right, thanks
[21:47] <soren> Can I kindly request a speedy review of https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~soren/autotest/trunk ?
[21:52] <mwhudson> soren: done
[21:52] <mwhudson> soren: i hope the url is right :-)
[21:52] <popey> is there anyone about who knows about launchpad polls?
[21:52] <soren> mwhudson: Heh :) Thanks a lot!
[21:54] <popey> basically I want to create a poll for a team, and list 6 people for which the team can vote. They get a "yes/no" vote for each one, we just want to make sure we get more yes than no for each individual. There are 6 positions and 6 people, so we're not interested in how many votes one person gets over another, merely how many yes vs no each person gets...
[21:54] <popey> is that possible with launchpad polls?
[22:09] <Riddell> spam  https://edge.launchpad.net/~fintiminti
[22:11] <mwhudson> popey: i guess you could do that with 6 polls, one for each person...
[22:12] <mwhudson> popey: but otherwise, no i don't think launchpad polls are very flexible
[22:12] <popey> ugh, thats a bit messy
[22:12] <mwhudson> might be wrong thoug
[22:12] <popey> thanks
[22:12] <mwhudson> try a few things out on staging?
[22:12] <popey> no mails will go out from staging?
[22:12] <wgrant> popey: IIRC the TB elections were done with one LP poll for each person.
[22:14] <popey> ok, i can see that
[22:14] <popey> thank helps
[22:14] <popey> *that
[22:14] <popey> thanks
[22:16] <bdmurray> So I set the contact address for ubuntu-bugcontrol to the launchpad mailing list then subscribed the team to a bug, but the mailing list is not getting an e-mail about the bug report.  Shouldn't it?
[23:00] <FFEMTcJ> Is it just me or is something wrong with the layout of the right column of launchpad pages?
[23:06] <fta> d'oh!
[23:06] <fta> dh_md5sums -pchromium-browser-dbg
[23:06] <fta> md5sum: write error: No space left on device