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| nigel_nb | hggdh: are you around? | 14:19 |
| nigel_nb | can someone wishlist bug 493973 for me please | 14:19 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 493973 in evolution "evolution can't send messages using smtp.gmail.com with default gmail settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/493973 | 14:19 |
| hggdh | nigel_nb: hi, -- not being a bother, but why do you think it is a wish (*I* know why *I* would think so, but... changes in status and importance should have a comment) | 14:31 |
| mac_v | pedro_: hi.. when a bug which was earlier present , but seems solved by an unknown fix... should it be marked "fix released" or "invalid" ? | 14:31 |
| mac_v | just asking , since the stock responses has such unknown fixes to me marked as "invalid" | 14:32 |
| nigel_nb | hggdh: I understand the bug and its a minor and * genuine * feature request (which should be filed upstream, which I'm doing now) | 14:32 |
| nigel_nb | its not causing any problems, just the user needs to do it manually | 14:32 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, invalid is ok in that particular case | 14:33 |
| mac_v | pedro_: so should i change this to invalid > Bug #413729 ? | 14:36 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 413729 in f-spot "f-spot.exe crashed with signal 5 in _XError()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/413729 | 14:36 |
| * mac_v gets confused , since seb128 marks them fix released and a few others mark them invalid... :( | 14:37 | |
| pedro_ | mac_v, don't bother about those closed reports | 14:37 |
| nigel_nb | hggdh: so, am I correct? | 14:37 |
| mac_v | pedro_: ah.. ok.. thanks .. but in future such bugs are to be marked 'invalid' ? | 14:38 |
| pedro_ | mac_v, if the bug was "fixed" by an unknown way, yes, set those to invalid | 14:38 |
| pedro_ | often people reboot their machine and the bug is fixed | 14:38 |
| pedro_ | or for what ever other reason, marking those as invalid is ok | 14:39 |
| mac_v | pedro_: if fixed by an update? | 14:39 |
| pedro_ | fix released | 14:39 |
| mac_v | ah ok | 14:39 |
| seb128 | mac_v, I tend to use fix released when a new version fix the issue | 14:39 |
| seb128 | and invalid when it magically went away after a restart or on next try | 14:40 |
| mac_v | ah... got it | 14:40 |
| nigel_nb | pedro_: you're the contact for evolution? | 14:52 |
| pedro_ | nigel_nb, i'm getting the email for the bugs upstreamed there, that'd be a yes | 14:52 |
| nigel_nb | pedro_: ah, just forwarded an enhancement request upstream | 14:53 |
| hggdh | nigel_nb: done | 14:53 |
| nigel_nb | saw your name come up :) | 14:53 |
| hggdh | nigel_nb: yes, you are correct. But we have to comment on status/importance changes | 14:53 |
| hggdh | poor pedro_ would really like somebody else to get Evo ;-) | 14:54 |
| pedro_ | btw I moved the bug to Triaged, since nigel_nb sent it upstream | 14:54 |
| nigel_nb | pedro_: you want some help on evo? I could help | 14:55 |
| hggdh | oh, I updated in between, I guess | 14:55 |
| nigel_nb | I sort of started liking upstream gnome :) | 14:55 |
| hggdh | see you all this evening (US central time evening) | 14:56 |
| pedro_ | nigel_nb, sure! help is always welcome :-) | 14:56 |
| pedro_ | nigel_nb, if you want to send some upstream there's a few on evolution just search for bugs that need to be forwarded upstream in the advanced search | 14:57 |
| pedro_ | there's ~10 that need to be confirmed by someone getting the issue and then be send upstream to the Gnome BTS | 14:57 |
| nigel_nb | I'll look into it now :) | 14:58 |
| pedro_ | cool! gracias! | 15:00 |
| nigel_nb | pedro_: how do I search by package? | 15:01 |
| pedro_ | nigel_nb, what do you mean? | 15:02 |
| nigel_nb | I got it | 15:02 |
| pedro_ | ok | 15:03 |
| nigel_nb | I wanted to search for evolution, figured it ot | 15:03 |
| nigel_nb | pedro_: 403682, reported upstream, change status | 15:29 |
| pedro_ | bug 403682 | 15:29 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 403682 in evolution "Some attached emails (ie MIME digest) are empty when downloaded from IMAP" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403682 | 15:29 |
| pedro_ | done thank nigel_nb | 15:31 |
| nigel_nb | :) | 15:31 |
| hggdh | bddebian: boo ;-) | 15:43 |
| bddebian | Boo too :) | 15:51 |
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| nigel_nb | pedro_: other upstream forwardable bugs, I'm not sure if I can confirm... :( | 15:58 |
| pedro_ | nigel_nb, no problem, thanks for working on those! :-) | 15:59 |
| nigel_nb | happy to be of help :) | 15:59 |
| bdmurray | Hello! | 16:00 |
| pedro_ | hola bdmurray | 16:00 |
| nigel_nb | hello bdmurray :) | 16:00 |
| andresmujica | hola a todos! hi everyone ! | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | So, its that time of the month ... for the bug squad meeting! | 16:01 |
| andresmujica | hi bdmurray hi pedro_ | 16:01 |
| thekorn | hey bugsquad! | 16:01 |
| andresmujica | hi thekorn | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | I don't see micahg... | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | So we'll skip the first two things in the agenda until he shows | 16:03 |
| bdmurray | Moving on we have "Documented policy for revision of Wiki pages. Some of them need revamp but seems most are unsure of how to go about it." -- cyan-spam | 16:04 |
| bdmurray | While I don't think they are present I think there is enough information to discuss this | 16:04 |
| yofel | hi folks | 16:04 |
| thekorn | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting -- for the reference ;) | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | I'm personally subscribed to most of the wiki pages I care about | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | so I'd prefer people just edit them however, from changes of wide scope I like what qsense did with e-mailing the bugsquad | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | er for changes | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | Additionally, I believe there was one issue where pages contradicted each other or it was not clear which page was correct. | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | In that case again e-mailing the bug squad for clarification on a policy makes the most sense to me. | 16:07 |
| bdmurray | Are other ideas on that topic? | 16:07 |
| bdmurray | Any - even! | 16:07 |
| pedro_ | indeed that's the best way to go | 16:08 |
| yofel | well, I mostly agree that the ML would be the best place to discuss propsed changes to the wiki | 16:08 |
| yofel | and for direct questions we have this channel | 16:08 |
| bdmurray | yofel: ah, yes that's a good point | 16:09 |
| andresmujica | subscribing the ML to the bugsquad wiki pages could work too, or would it be just too much noise?? | 16:09 |
| bdmurray | andresmujica: that's an interesting idea as if a policy changed everyone would be notified too | 16:10 |
| yofel | not if ediors use the 'trivial change' checkbox when needed | 16:10 |
| yofel | bdmurray: +1 | 16:10 |
| thekorn | maybe we can just give this subscribe ML to wike pages idea a try for a few month | 16:11 |
| thekorn | s/wike/wiki | 16:11 |
| andresmujica | yeap | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | Okay, I see 2 actions to do then. 1) Publicize wiki editing policy. 2) Check with mailing list regarding subscribing to wiki pages. | 16:11 |
| bdmurray | I can take #1 any volunteers for #2? | 16:12 |
| * hggdh is still trying to load the wiki page :-( | 16:12 | |
| hggdh | bdmurray: I am not sure I understand #2 | 16:13 |
| hggdh | oh, wait | 16:14 |
| bdmurray | propose that the bugsquad mailing list be subscribe to "key" wiki pages and run a trial of it | 16:14 |
| hggdh | yes. As usual, I am slow | 16:14 |
| bdmurray | or I'm vague ;-) | 16:14 |
| hggdh | I can do it | 16:14 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: awesome, thanks! | 16:14 |
| bdmurray | Are there any other topics for the meeting? | 16:15 |
| * hggdh apart from the additionals, no, AFAICU | 16:16 | |
| bdmurray | hggdh: additionals? | 16:16 |
| pedro_ | yes, just one | 16:16 |
| pedro_ | well from me at least | 16:16 |
| pedro_ | I'm looking for people to help to organize the next bug days | 16:16 |
| hggdh | defining a roadmap, single use apport, etc | 16:16 |
| pedro_ | that means , the one for this week and the next one | 16:17 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: right, however micahg isn't here :-( | 16:17 |
| pedro_ | so if you want to help: just drop your name on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning | 16:17 |
| hggdh | pedro_: I am not really available right now (taking time unpaid to be here), otherwise I would be there | 16:17 |
| pedro_ | so we can start to coordinate | 16:17 |
| pedro_ | also, we're looking for a target for the next week | 16:17 |
| pedro_ | so if you have *any* idea don't be shy and add it to the wiki page | 16:18 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: the no package bugs are quite out of hand | 16:18 |
| pedro_ | also put your name on the organizers section so we can make sure you're going to help with that task too | 16:18 |
| pedro_ | bdmurray, yes and those bug days are always a total success | 16:19 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, no worries, you're having a lot over your plate right now :-) | 16:19 |
| * pedro_ hugs hggdh | 16:19 | |
| * hggdh blushes, and hugs pedro_ back | 16:20 | |
| pedro_ | ok that's all i got from here | 16:20 |
| bdmurray | pedro_: okay, thanks! | 16:20 |
| thekorn | I think this daily PPA topic is an important one to discuss, what are the plan for daily PPAs and how is managing bugs in this packages planned? | 16:20 |
| hggdh | +1 | 16:20 |
| hggdh | the apport one-run (force_start=1) has just been resolved via an update to Karmic | 16:21 |
| hggdh | thanks goes to micahg for it | 16:21 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: can you elaborate? | 16:21 |
| hggdh | apport would not start single-time on karmic due to the change to upstart | 16:22 |
| hggdh | Lucid was fixed, and micahg prepared a debdiff for Karmic -- and pitti approved and uploaded it yesterday | 16:22 |
| bdmurray | ah, thanks to micahg then! | 16:22 |
| hggdh | but, now, back to dailies | 16:23 |
| hggdh | I think this is more complex than it seems | 16:23 |
| hggdh | but is extremely needed -- more so given all the blueprints we had at UDS | 16:23 |
| bdmurray | I'd proposed an idea at https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bugcontrol/msg00496.html | 16:25 |
| bdmurray | I'm not sure why that thread is on the bugcontrol mailing list but whatever | 16:25 |
| hggdh | bdmurray: I think it is because we are the ones to set it INVALID | 16:26 |
| thekorn | ok, so the proposal is: marking them all (by tagging and modifieing the title) but closing most of them | 16:27 |
| bdmurray | right unless there is a well known call for testing | 16:27 |
| thekorn | only letting the one open which are part of a public announced testing iniative of a big ubuntu team | 16:28 |
| hggdh | and then the owners can search for their packages. The only issue is it is not easy to search for INVALID (must go to advanced/extended/whatever) | 16:28 |
| bdmurray | but its still possible | 16:29 |
| thekorn | damn, yeah | 16:29 |
| bdmurray | and maybe we could make a launchpadlib script to make it easier for them | 16:29 |
| hggdh | good idea | 16:29 |
| thekorn | show-me-all-my-valid-but-invalid-bugs-because-I-used-a-PPA.py | 16:30 |
| hggdh | perhaps a slightly smaller name ;-) | 16:30 |
| hggdh | :-) | 16:30 |
| thekorn | ;) | 16:31 |
| bdmurray | show-me-all-my-valid-but-invalid-bugs-because-I-used-a-PPA-and-launchpad-doesn't-have-ppa-bug-filing.py | 16:31 |
| pedro_ | lol | 16:31 |
| thekorn | yeah, exactly | 16:31 |
| hggdh | THAT'S better. Go for broke | 16:31 |
| bdmurray | tab completion! | 16:31 |
| hggdh | so we would need to (1) update the wiki (2) get the .py, (3) publish | 16:32 |
| bdmurray | and announce the policy | 16:32 |
| hggdh | getting the py is not a critical path, though, just makes life easier | 16:32 |
| hggdh | so, 4 actions, the announcement being the last. Volunteers? | 16:33 |
| bdmurray | and maybe make a standard response that modifies ppa reports appropriately | 16:33 |
| hggdh | 5 actions | 16:33 |
| bdmurray | and... ;-) | 16:33 |
| hggdh | you mentees, this is a point where you can get your hands dirty ;-) | 16:34 |
| bdmurray | I'll do 4 and 5 | 16:34 |
| thekorn | hey micahg | 16:34 |
| thekorn | I can do (2) over the next weekend | 16:35 |
| hggdh | morning micahg | 16:35 |
| nigel_nb | anyone asked for volunteer mentees? | 16:35 |
| hggdh | thanks, thekorn | 16:35 |
| micahg | hi thekorn hggdh | 16:35 |
| * hggdh has | 16:35 | |
| nigel_nb | I volunteer though u'll have to tell me what about | 16:35 |
| hggdh | nigel_nb: we will help | 16:35 |
| nigel_nb | hggdh: I'm in | 16:35 |
| hggdh | cool | 16:35 |
| hggdh | bdmurray: where would we publish it? lp-improvements? | 16:36 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: item 2 should likely be put in ubuntu-qa-tools and pointed to from the wiki and announcement | 16:36 |
| bcurtiswx_ | announcement of???? | 16:37 |
| hggdh | ok, makes sense. We can assume it will be there | 16:37 |
| hggdh | abd prepare the wiki accordingly | 16:37 |
| bdmurray | announcement of the policy regarding ppa bug reports | 16:37 |
| thekorn | hmm, we cannot address (2) aka the script yet, easiliy and with good performance | 16:37 |
| bcurtiswx_ | ah, for now we've been invalidating them | 16:37 |
| hggdh | thekorn: what gives? | 16:37 |
| thekorn | the API has no way to search for tasks of a user | 16:38 |
| thekorn | means: launchpad.people ["thekorn"].searchTasks() | 16:38 |
| thekorn | is not working | 16:38 |
| bdmurray | we can hash this out later but I'd imagined it would search for package bugs tagged ppa | 16:38 |
| thekorn | haha, ok | 16:39 |
| thekorn | yeah, that's easy | 16:39 |
| hggdh | and with a given pacakge | 16:39 |
| bdmurray | okay, so micahg is here! | 16:39 |
| thekorn | this smells a bit like bughelper ;) | 16:39 |
| micahg | sorry I was late | 16:39 |
| micahg | did you get through all the items on the agenda already? | 16:40 |
| hggdh | thekorn: it does indeed... | 16:40 |
| bdmurray | micahg: no problem since we only have 20 minutes are any of your items more pressing? | 16:40 |
| bdmurray | micahg: we covered wiki page editing policy and bugs for daily ppas | 16:40 |
| micahg | what was the decision for PPAs if I may ask | 16:40 |
| hggdh | we will be following https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bugcontrol/msg00496.html for now | 16:41 |
| micahg | ok, that sounds good | 16:41 |
| micahg | can we make a list of packages that PPA bugs are allowed for? | 16:42 |
| micahg | on the wiki | 16:42 |
| hggdh | and we will change the wiki to reflect that, a .py will be written to facilitate the search, published on the qa-tools, and an announcement made | 16:42 |
| hggdh | micahg: I would expect this will be part of the wiki changes | 16:43 |
| bdmurray | micahg: that makes sense | 16:43 |
| micahg | ok, yeah, perfecrt | 16:43 |
| hggdh | as long as there are few such cases | 16:43 |
| thekorn | but this is not a static list, right? | 16:43 |
| hggdh | I do not see it as static. Probably a subpage | 16:43 |
| thekorn | so there can be short "official" testing periods for some packages | 16:44 |
| hggdh | +1 | 16:44 |
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| hggdh | micahg: what did you mean with "how to connect upstream bugs in LP"? | 16:46 |
| micahg | well, I was wondering about bugs that their upstream uses LP for bug tracking | 16:46 |
| hggdh | ah, good one | 16:47 |
| hggdh | bdmurray: how do we deal with upstream-at-LP? Do we still open an Ubuntu bug and an Upstream one? Does it even make sense? | 16:48 |
| thekorn | I don't get it, maybe I'm too slow, as usual ;) | 16:48 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: it depends on the upstream. for ubiquity and update-manager no | 16:48 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: for terminator or something used by another distribution yes | 16:49 |
| andresmujica | hmm, i believe that usually the upstream has a project inside LP, so is a matter to add a task for the project and for the ubuntu package | 16:49 |
| bdmurray | andresmujica: yes | 16:49 |
| hggdh | so ubiquity bugs should be open against which? | 16:49 |
| hggdh | (for example) | 16:49 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: only the Ubuntu package not the project | 16:49 |
| hggdh | do we have a list of these packages? It would help, I think | 16:50 |
| andresmujica | bug 422101 | 16:50 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 422101 in ubiquity "initramfs-tools package seems to fail postinstall on armel" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422101 | 16:50 |
| bdmurray | speaking of an awesome thing to do would be to review https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/update-manager and open ubuntu tasks | 16:50 |
| andresmujica | this could be an example | 16:50 |
| micahg | so we open an upstream task vs bug? | 16:50 |
| mvo | bdmurray: great idea! | 16:51 |
| bdmurray | mvo: and maybe disable bug filing when finished? | 16:51 |
| thekorn | argh, this "hot bugs" overview sucks, I thought for one seconds update-manager only has 10 open bugs ;) | 16:51 |
| bdmurray | so generally speaking there should be a bug opened against the upstream project unless they are Ubuntu only packages like ubiquity and update-manager | 16:53 |
| bdmurray | There is no list of those packages that I know of | 16:53 |
| thekorn | what is the reason for this exception? | 16:54 |
| bdmurray | the package doesn't exist anywhere else and its just extra work to close the upstream task | 16:55 |
| thekorn | it complicates everything, and I personally don't see the positive outcome | 16:55 |
| bdmurray | I believe that ideally the project wouldn't allow bug filing / use lp for bug tracking | 16:55 |
| micahg | bdmurray: that can be set by the project owner | 16:56 |
| thekorn | no ideally launchpad would also close "upstream" tasks when sth. like (LP: #123456) is found in changelogs | 16:56 |
| micahg | thekorn: that doesn't make sense as we might have a patch that upstream doesn't | 16:57 |
| thekorn | hmm, good point | 16:58 |
| micahg | bdmurray: if those project are set for no bug tracking, a note should be on the project homepage to use the ubuntu package for bug tracking | 16:59 |
| micahg | also, what if another distro wants to adopt one of those packages as well | 16:59 |
| bdmurray | micahg: well, to use 'ubuntu-bug packagename' ;-) | 16:59 |
| bdmurray | micahg: well, then bug filing would be allowed again | 17:00 |
| micahg | bdmurray: ok | 17:00 |
| micahg | as we're out of time, I just wanted to make a quick note the single apport crash reports is fixed in -proposed | 17:01 |
| micahg | for karmic | 17:01 |
| thekorn | I think any policy makes sense here, as long as this policy is explained and announced somewhere | 17:01 |
| bdmurray | micahg: hggdh told us - that's outstanding! | 17:01 |
| micahg | I'm assuming it's ok to ask people to enable -proposed for the moment to generate the crash report | 17:02 |
| hggdh | micahg: the only thing is -proposed *may* be dangerous generically | 17:02 |
| hggdh | probably not, though, one hopes | 17:03 |
| bdmurray | well, it shouldn't be but yes ;-) | 17:03 |
| micahg | so we should wait until it reaches -updates before asking then? | 17:03 |
| bdmurray | I'm sure we can get the sru verification fast tracked | 17:03 |
| hggdh | we can fast-track it, yes | 17:03 |
| micahg | ok | 17:03 |
| hggdh | micahg: what was the bug #? | 17:03 |
| micahg | bug 476513 | 17:04 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 476513 in apport "/etc/default/apport comment outdated" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476513 | 17:04 |
| hggdh | thanks | 17:04 |
| bdmurray | Thanks everyone! | 17:07 |
| hggdh | am I still here? | 17:08 |
| micahg | hggdh: yep | 17:08 |
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| hggdh | oh, OK. bloody wifi is slow as molasses (but then what could I expect from wardriving?) | 17:09 |
| thekorn | alos freenode is on fire today ;) | 17:09 |
| thekorn | ok, thanks everybody | 17:10 |
| thekorn | I'll write down some mmeting notes later today, ok? | 17:10 |
| hggdh | since this early morning (about 0900 UTC) | 17:10 |
| hggdh | thekorn: thank you | 17:10 |
| micahg | ah, all caught up | 17:11 |
| hggdh | yeee another netsplit | 17:15 |
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| mvo | bdmurray: (sorry for the delay) - yes, disabling upstream tasks of u-m is a great idea | 17:24 |
| bdmurray | mvo: no problem, thanks for getting back to me | 17:24 |
| nperry | bug #493384 | 17:40 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 493384 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-173 "xorg crashes at start with nvidia drivers. Karmic Koala. Nvidia Drivers." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/493384 | 17:40 |
| nigel_nb_ | hggdh: meeting is over? | 17:40 |
| nperry | Whats the best next step | 17:40 |
| nigel_nb_ | I think i missed the ending due to netsplits | 17:41 |
| hggdh | nigel_nb_: yes, it is over. freenode is having a lot of netsplits, it seems | 17:41 |
| nigel_nb_ | hggdh: aw, too bad, anyway what did I volunteer for? | 17:43 |
| nigel_nb_ | I got split after that | 17:43 |
| hggdh | nigel_nb_: heh. You volunteered to update the wiki pages abou how we will deal (at least for now) with PPA bugs | 17:43 |
| hggdh | nigel_nb_: and thank you, BTW | 17:44 |
| nigel_nb_ | hggdh: okay, that connects with the link the lists.launchpad mailing list, correct? | 17:44 |
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| hggdh | yes -- partially. We need to state that all PPA bugs (except for a list of them) will (1) be tagged PPA; (2) have the title prepended with [PPA]; set to INVALID | 17:45 |
| nigel_nb_ | hggdh: why are we setting to invalid? | 17:46 |
| nigel_nb_ | so what the author can deal with it? | 17:46 |
| hggdh | because they are not real Ubuntu bugs -- an Ubuntu bug is a bug in an official Ubuntu package | 17:46 |
| hggdh | at the same time, we cannot leave then off, given all the push to PPA usage | 17:47 |
| hggdh | but LP still does not support PPA bugs | 17:47 |
| nigel_nb_ | so we mark them invalid, but tag them and prepend PPA so that the authors can look for it or a script can be generated for them, correct? | 17:47 |
| hggdh | development will provide us with a list of PPA packages that are to be accepted (packages in transition/turmoil, like -- say -- X video drivers). We expect this list to be dynamic | 17:49 |
| nigel_nb_ | okay :) | 17:49 |
| nigel_nb_ | so where should I update? | 17:49 |
| hggdh | what you can do, if you want: look at the wiki bugsquad/bugs pages, and find where this could be put; suggest a change, and -- so that you will not feel roasting alone -- show us the changes | 17:50 |
| hggdh | and we will discuss, change, propose, accept in group | 17:50 |
| nigel_nb_ | suggest a change on the mailing list? | 17:51 |
| hggdh | you can, if you wish. Or propose here, if no response, then ML | 17:51 |
| hggdh | here, via pastebin, for example | 17:52 |
| hggdh | or a temp page showing the changes | 17:52 |
| nigel_nb_ | I'll do it on my sandbox | 17:52 |
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| Wazzzaaa | Hey, I have a bug in Karmic | 17:53 |
| Wazzzaaa | bug #460654 | 17:53 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 460654 in linux "speakers don't mute when plugging in a headphone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460654 | 17:53 |
| hggdh | thank you. If in doubt, ask. We will be more than happy to help. And we are very happy you volunteered :-) | 17:53 |
| Wazzzaaa | I'm willing to do some research in finding the cause of this bug.. But I do not know where to start | 17:53 |
| hggdh | Wazzzaaa: I am sorry, I personally do not do sound, but perhaps somebody else here does | 17:55 |
| Wazzzaaa | ok :) | 17:55 |
| Wazzzaaa | Im a programmer, and Im even willing to fix this bug if I can find it. Do you have pointer to sites which I can read ? | 17:56 |
| nigel_nb_ | Wazzzaaa: it is a known issue | 17:56 |
| Wazzzaaa | ok | 17:56 |
| Wazzzaaa | so....? | 17:56 |
| nigel_nb_ | I believe the audio team will get back to you on that one | 17:56 |
| Wazzzaaa | hehe, I hope it is fixed in lucid | 17:57 |
| nigel_nb_ | I think it will be fixed in the next kernel relesae | 17:57 |
| Wazzzaaa | ok, is it a kernel issue? | 17:58 |
| nigel_nb_ | no, its a alsa issue | 17:58 |
| nigel_nb_ | what make is your laptop? | 17:58 |
| Wazzzaaa | make? it is a desktop... | 18:10 |
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| nigel_nb_ | Wazzzaaa: daniel knows the details, dont worry he'll look into it when he gets time | 18:17 |
| nigel_nb_ | he's kinda over worked, so dont worry if it takes time | 18:17 |
| Wazzzaaa | ok, I'll idle here... | 18:18 |
| Wazzzaaa | thnx voor the help | 18:18 |
| BUGabundo | boas | 18:19 |
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| maco | umm im confused. what does openafs have to do with bug 453365 ? | 22:04 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 453365 in dkms "dkms should start before gdm if needed for video driver" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/453365 | 22:04 |
| micahg | maco: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/+bug/453365/comments/9 | 22:07 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 453365 in dkms "dkms should start before gdm if needed for video driver" [Undecided,In progress] | 22:07 |
| maco | micahg: oh. ok. i should click through instead of just going by bugmail i guess... | 22:08 |
| maco | i was just going "openafs... video... what?" | 22:08 |
| maco | micahg: thanks. and sorry | 22:08 |
| micahg | yep :), each task says who opened it, so you can look for their comment | 22:08 |
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