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_marx_true mhall11900:00
mhall119it wouldn't surprise me if they get it into Universe before April00:00
cprofittjoin #edubuntu00:13
cprofittpleia2: you around?00:14
mhall119cprofitt: she's in #ubuntu-meeting right now, membership meeting in progress00:14
winblows1970hi , can someone help me with ubuntu messup00:15
mhall119winblows1970: general ubuntu help, or something specific to teaching materials?00:16
winblows1970uhm and that means....00:17
BiosElementwinblows1970: You're looking for the #ubuntu channel I think.00:18
mhall119winblows1970: this channel is specific to a project that creating teaching materials for Ubuntu00:18
winblows1970oh00:18
winblows1970how do i find   ubuntu channel00:18
mhall119for help with ubuntu, you should try either #ubuntu or, since that gets busy, #ubuntu-beginners00:18
BiosElementDepends on your IRC cleint. It's probably /join #ubuntu00:19
BiosElement*client00:19
winblows1970thanks will try00:19
winblows1970sry ...but do i use chanserv for finding ubuntu...new to irc thnks00:21
mhall119winblows1970: what program are you using to access irc?00:22
winblows1970a messenger program has mutiple aim yahoo exc....00:23
mhall119winblows1970: Pidgin?00:25
mhall119Empathy?00:25
mhall119one of those?00:25
winblows1970ya00:25
mhall119are you currently on Ubuntu?00:25
winblows1970ti think i found it00:26
winblows1970have a room list and about 100 ubuntu rooms00:26
winblows1970lol00:26
mhall119if you're using Pidgin, you can just type "/join #ubuntu" here (without the quotes)00:27
mhall119if it's empathy, there's a menu option to join a room, then just enter #ubuntu as the room/channel name00:27
winblows1970thank you very much. cya have a nice nite/day00:28
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edoroman1hi00:37
edoroman1is anyone there???00:37
edoroman1i need help with ubuntu00:37
edoroman1can someone help me please?00:37
mhall119edoroman1: for Ubuntu help, try #ubuntu00:37
edoroman1ok thanks00:38
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nigel_nbhey guys13:22
nigel_nbBiosElement: ping13:39
nigel_nbdoctormo: ping13:54
doctormonigel_nb: pong13:54
nigel_nbhey, how are you? heard you were sick13:54
nigel_nbneed an update on the new formatting13:56
nigel_nb_marx_: heard you guys had some issue in your loco with people not being okay with IRC....13:57
nigel_nbdoctormo: are you busy?14:05
doctormonigel_nb: About to go out14:11
nigel_nboh, later then14:11
doctormonigel_nb: The formatting is the same AFAIK, can we sit down later?14:11
nigel_nbI'll finish everything the way I was doing and we'll do this later14:11
doctormobte: http://www.sitasingstheblues.com/watch.html14:12
nigel_nbsome trouble with conversion, pleia2 was telling me14:12
doctormonigel_nb: Interesting, we'll pick this up later, I've slowly recovering ebnough to get back on top of it.14:13
nigel_nbpleia2: you probably should change the /topic and remove stuff about meeting from wiki14:46
pleia2nigel_nb: yeah, I'll do that when I prep the meeting page and stuff14:47
pleia2sorry, still a bit sick :(14:47
nigel_nbyou want me to get the wiki ready?14:48
nigel_nbI think I can do it (if u tell me what I have to do)14:48
nigel_nbhope you get well soon :)14:49
ZachK_Meeting?14:50
ZachK_Did someone say meeting?!?!?!!14:50
* ZachK_ loves meetings14:50
nigel_nbmeeting's over14:50
ZachK_damn14:50
* pleia2 passes the swear jar to ZachK_ 14:52
nigel_nbZachK_: FYI, this channel HAS public logs, so what u say is set in stone14:52
pleia2nigel_nb: just take a look at past meeting pages where we link to logs and write minutes (or at least copy the agenda over)14:52
* ZachK_ swears in jar...thanks pleia2 14:53
ZachK_hey pleia214:53
pleia2nigel_nb: like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/Agenda/0727200914:53
pleia2ZachK_: no, you put money in it :)14:53
ZachK_pleia2: ok......14:53
pleia2nigel_nb: if you don't get to the "minutes" part, that's ok :) but the top is important14:53
* ZachK_ puts 1ยข in the jar14:53
nigel_nbpleia2: okay, I saw the point where you got lazy and just started linking them14:54
* ZachK_ smacks nigel_nb 14:54
ZachK_don't you dare call pleia2 lazy!14:54
pleia2nigel_nb: yeah, I think swoody was going to go through and fix those up but I think he got busy14:54
* ZachK_ laughs....14:54
ZachK_messing 'round...i'm still a little wacky from work14:55
nigel_nbZachK_: well, I did hear her say herself :P14:56
ZachK_nigel_nb: i know dude....hehehe14:56
ZachK_i'm messing with you....14:56
ZachK_nigel_nb: I'm messing with you 'cause I miss my padawan...you grew up so fast!14:57
nigel_nbha :P14:58
_marx_nigel_nb: folks commenting that IRC isn't "beginner-ish"15:18
nigel_nb_marx_: I went through the mail archives15:19
nigel_nbwill it be possible to have videos on connecting to IRC from empathy/pidgin?15:19
pleia2screencasts :)15:19
nigel_nbwe could upload it and send it to our loco15:19
nigel_nbeven the web interface would be fine15:20
nigel_nbwe just need people to understand how to connect, how to see the session, and how to ask questions15:20
_marx_screencast/video a good idea I think15:21
_marx_but one on XChat as well15:21
nigel_nbsure15:21
nigel_nbif u can do the audio, I can get the video done15:21
mhall119|workXChat isn't what I'd use for beginners15:21
nigel_nbmhall119|work: +115:22
* _marx_ gtk-recordmydesktop doesn't record sound for some reason15:22
mhall119|work_marx_: have compiz enabled?15:22
_marx_yes15:22
nigel_nb_marx_: audio is supposed to be recorded later anyway15:22
mhall119|workoh, sound15:22
mhall119|workyeah15:22
mhall119|worknone of the desktop recorders I've used record sound15:22
nigel_nbmhall119|work: it wont15:22
_marx_even when i disconnect webcam so there's only one mic15:23
nigel_nbI went through some guide for it15:23
nigel_nbaudio should be recorded later using some other software15:23
mhall119|workyou might be able to record sounds with something like Audacity while you're recording the screen15:23
nigel_nblike Kino15:23
_marx_yeah and then mixed15:23
nigel_nbyep15:23
nigel_nbaudacity will work15:23
_marx_now that's a thought15:23
nigel_nbI can do the video and upload it to rapidshare15:23
_marx_yeah audacity picks up either mic on my sys15:24
nigel_nbcan you download, do the audio and get it to me?15:24
nigel_nbI'll mix the audio/video and upload on blip.tv15:24
nigel_nband we can send it out to our respective loco's15:24
nigel_nbmy accent won't be really friendly for everyone :(15:24
_marx_i'll give it a shot15:24
_marx_haha15:25
_marx_it'll be like calling some tech support ;-)15:25
nigel_nbhaha, true15:25
nigel_nbthat could serve as a lasting video for classroom sessions too15:25
_marx_now here's a weird idea, same video, different accents15:26
nigel_nbcould work, but I think a neutral accent might work for everyone15:27
_marx_hollywood accent15:27
nigel_nbthat would spoil it :P15:27
* _marx_ has a touch of the US south15:27
nigel_nbif nothing works, there's always the good doc :)15:28
nigel_nb_marx_: just to confirm, what all are we do we need?15:29
nigel_nbempathy, pidgin, web.. enough?15:29
nigel_nbmhall119|work: comments on ^^15:30
_marx_yeah i think so15:30
mhall119|worknigel_nb: I think so, yes15:30
_marx_the wiki on xchat is pretty thorough15:30
mhall119|workany default install will have pidgin or empathy15:30
mhall119|workand web of course is available to all15:30
* _marx_ ttrying istanbul now15:31
nigel_nbweb would be the most user friendly15:31
_marx_and stuttering ;)15:31
nigel_nbyeah15:31
mhall119|work_marx_: probably compiz15:31
mhall119|workgtk-recordmydesktop works pretty will for me even with compiz15:32
_marx_isn't it SOP to use default desktop bg?15:32
nigel_nb_marx_: got virtualbox?15:32
_marx_yes, running lucid on it15:33
nigel_nbthe SOP is to use a clean install so that all themes/backgrounds would be default15:33
nigel_nband the soft uses less space that way15:33
_marx_hum, well it's no longer all defaults either15:33
nigel_nbnew vm? ;)15:33
_marx_it's close enough i've not added much to it15:34
_marx_http://www.flickr.com/photos/markthecarp/408126964315:35
_marx_just change the bg back to default from that one ;)15:35
nigel_nboh yeah, the background defintely needs to change :)15:35
nigel_nbI'll get you the SOP on videos15:36
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nigel_nbah, good pleia2 :)15:36
nigel_nb_marx_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts15:37
nigel_nbfrom the screencast team15:37
_marx_thanks nigel_nb15:37
nigel_nbyaay! I'm off today, so I get some stuff done today itself15:37
* _marx_ screencast attempts did not go well17:24
nigel_nb__marx_: how bad?17:39
nigel_nb__marx_: still with me here or split away?18:00
nigel_nb_pleia2: the penguins in your christmas deco looks soooo geeky :)18:41
pleia2nigel_nb_: thanks ;)18:41
_marx_i'm back nigel_nb_ splits are bad today19:47
nigel_nb_yeah19:47
nigel_nb_how did your first attempt go?19:48
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_marx_gtk-recordmydesktop wants to capture the entire virtual box window19:48
_marx_vbox is really loading my system up I suspect it's the state of lucid19:49
_marx_if we're off topic in here we can take this somewhere else19:50
nigel_nbnope we're not19:50
nigel_nbuserdays comes under learning team19:50
nigel_nband what we're doing is related to user days19:51
* nigel_nb hopes he is right19:51
nigel_nb_marx_: to solve that problem, try xvidcap19:51
nigel_nbit allows you set the area to be captured19:51
_marx_that's cool because that's exactly what I was thinking19:52
_marx_you think 1.5 gig ram is enough?19:52
nigel_nbwow19:52
nigel_nbthat should be more that enough19:53
nigelbabuokay, this is me from empathy19:53
nigelbabunot, bad, now I know what to do :P19:53
_marx_doesn't seem that much easier than xchat to me19:54
nigel_nbactually, I find it more clunky19:55
nigel_nbcoz for the class, you need to be in 2 rooms at once19:55
nigel_nbone for class and one for questions19:55
_marx_istanbul was a complete, well nearly complete mystery19:56
nigel_nbistanbul captures the whole screen19:58
nigel_nbthat must be why screencast team recommends xvidcap19:58
_marx_slow, recording now20:01
marco_poloand that's me er marx20:02
nigel_nb_marx_: from empathy huh?20:02
_marx_yes20:02
_marx_from lucid while recording20:03
nigel_nboh cool20:03
_marx_I think i will need to use a fresh karmic install20:03
nigel_nbwhile recording, it would be nice to join #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat directly20:03
_marx_yes, that was just a test run20:03
nigel_nbso, it will be to the point, users will just need to follow it directly20:03
nigel_nbhows xvid?20:03
_marx_capture success ration 57.51%20:04
_marx_the video is usable though20:05
nigel_nbgreat20:06
nigel_nbso which means we are going the right way20:06
* _marx_ needs the test run just to learn empathy ;)20:06
nigel_nbsame here20:06
* _marx_ testing emapathy only again w/two channels20:08
nigel_nblooks okay with two channels20:09
* nigel_nb is creating new virtual machine with karmic20:10
* _marx_ was hoping there was a ~/.empathy so I could just delete or move it for simulated fresh installation20:13
_marx_ah found it20:14
* _marx_ will do same once lucid finishes upgrading20:20
nigel_nbyou'll do empathy?20:20
nigel_nbI'll get the web done in that case20:21
_marx_fresh karmic install20:21
nigel_nbgetting the fresh one20:21
* _marx_ sound portion is bad, too much bg noise from 4 pc's running20:25
nigel_nbwhat are you recording on, audacity?20:26
_marx_yep20:26
nigel_nboh, cool20:28
nigel_nbfresh install this time?20:28
_marx_it's almost ready20:28
nigel_nbmine's at 40% :(20:30
_marx_using a cd or hd image?20:30
nigel_nbcd20:30
_marx_I think it's a little faster from hd image20:30
nigel_nbi *cough* *cough* deleted my image or moved it someplace and I dont remember where20:30
_marx_oops20:31
_marx_hum wonder if vbox can boot over the network20:31
nigel_nbi think you need the non-free version20:33
_marx_that's what I'm using; the one from sun20:34
nigel_nboh20:34
nigel_nbI'm using vbox from repos20:34
_marx_well you can add the sun repo20:34
nigel_nbso far, this one's okay20:36
nigel_nbI dont own a flash drive, so not much incentive getting the other one20:36
_marx_I found USB and network bridging better20:40
_marx_nigel_nb: you'll beat me to it: i have to start over using a different partition20:42
nigel_nb_marx_: what happened?20:42
_marx_default is to use /home which doesn't have enough room so i'll start over using /data20:43
_marx_second hd w/lots of space20:43
nigel_nbah20:43
nigel_nbswoody: were you able to get around to doing the meeting stuff?20:47
swoodynigel_nb, indeed not :(20:48
nigel_nbI think I might get time to help20:48
nigel_nbI got 6 hours more today20:48
swoodynot much free time with all the holiday crud (read: in-laws)20:48
nigel_nbafter a few screencasts, I'll get around to doing them :)20:48
swoodynigel_nb, that would truly be great :)20:48
swoodyif not, I'm still planning on tackling them when I get some time20:49
nigel_nbswoody: if u could review them later and make edits, it would be great :20:49
nigel_nb:)20:49
swoodynigel_nb, just use the few existing ones as examples, and I'm sure you'll catch on quick :)20:49
swoodybut I'd be glad to look them over20:49
nigel_nbswoody: hopefully I will20:49
nigel_nbfirst order of buisness today is screencasts, then bzr module, then the meeting20:50
swoodysounds like you have quite the full plate ;)20:50
nigel_nbswoody: not really, marx is helping with screencasts (we're both doing them together), bzr module needs only 2 more sections, and meeting (that might take some time)20:56
nigel_nb_marx_: I'm at 100% :)21:26
cprofitthey nigel_nb21:27
nigel_nbhey cprofitt :)21:27
* _marx_ upgrading from alpha6 to final21:28
nigel_nbcprofitt: some of the loco guys fro nc wanted some help with irc21:28
cprofittnice21:28
cprofittget them involved21:28
nigel_nbgetting around to doing screencasts on using pidgin/empathy/web chat21:28
nigel_nbits for the user days21:28
cprofittsounds good...21:29
nigel_nbso we thought we'd do it and update the locos and any new announcements can have it too21:30
nigel_nband classroom team can have it permanently21:30
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nigel_nbpleia2: around?22:43
FFEMTcJhey nigel_nb22:49
nigel_nbhey FFEMTcJ congrats on membership :)22:50
FFEMTcJty bud22:50
nigel_nbmarx ran into some trouble with his loco people of the opinion that irc is too tough22:51
FFEMTcJI saw that..22:51
FFEMTcJThought Lernid would work perfect22:51
nigel_nblernid is still buggy22:51
_marx_well probably not for January22:51
nigel_nbwe both are trying to get screencasts out22:51
_marx_nigel_nb: my fresh vbox is _finally finished upgrading, might have been faster to dl current, I just forgot my hd image was alpha622:53
nigel_nbhehe22:53
nigel_nbmine is ready too22:53
nigel_nbbut now I'm patching something :P22:53
nigel_nbI'll take at least 1.5 hours to get to screen casts22:54
_marx_no prob22:54
_marx_we'll get it done in plenty of time22:54
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nigel_nb_marx_: I'm starting my pidgin screenshot :)23:40
nigel_nbakgraner: around?23:47
_marx_nigel_nb: do you have a usable empathy one23:51
nigel_nb_marx_: not yet23:51
nigel_nbdo u want one?23:51
nigel_nbrather, do u want me to make one?23:52
_marx_i'm fixin' to try for one23:52
nigel_nbI thought u cud do empathy23:52
_marx_my install is all patched up now23:52
nigel_nband I'll get the videos ready for pidgin and web, and you could do the narration23:52
nigel_nbI'm trying to get akgraner or pleia2 for a female voice in one of them23:52
_marx_akgraner: hasn't responded to some minor taunts in team channel23:53
nigel_nbanyone else we could rope in ?23:54
nigel_nbthe loco channel u mean?23:54
_marx_for voice overs?23:54
nigel_nbyea23:54
_marx_yes loco channel23:54
_marx_might ask in ubuntu-women23:55
nigel_nbyou want me to ask or you'll go ahead?23:55
_marx_wait a bit akgraner will bite JFo's bait23:57
_marx_looking at default install I didn't realize how much I change from default23:58
nigel_nbi asked in women23:59

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