[00:00] <_marx_> true mhall119 [00:00] it wouldn't surprise me if they get it into Universe before April [00:13] join #edubuntu [00:14] pleia2: you around? [00:14] cprofitt: she's in #ubuntu-meeting right now, membership meeting in progress [00:15] hi , can someone help me with ubuntu messup [00:16] winblows1970: general ubuntu help, or something specific to teaching materials? [00:17] uhm and that means.... [00:18] winblows1970: You're looking for the #ubuntu channel I think. [00:18] winblows1970: this channel is specific to a project that creating teaching materials for Ubuntu [00:18] oh [00:18] how do i find ubuntu channel [00:18] for help with ubuntu, you should try either #ubuntu or, since that gets busy, #ubuntu-beginners [00:19] Depends on your IRC cleint. It's probably /join #ubuntu [00:19] *client [00:19] thanks will try [00:21] sry ...but do i use chanserv for finding ubuntu...new to irc thnks [00:22] winblows1970: what program are you using to access irc? [00:23] a messenger program has mutiple aim yahoo exc.... [00:25] winblows1970: Pidgin? [00:25] Empathy? [00:25] one of those? [00:25] ya [00:25] are you currently on Ubuntu? [00:26] ti think i found it [00:26] have a room list and about 100 ubuntu rooms [00:26] lol [00:27] if you're using Pidgin, you can just type "/join #ubuntu" here (without the quotes) [00:27] if it's empathy, there's a menu option to join a room, then just enter #ubuntu as the room/channel name [00:28] thank you very much. cya have a nice nite/day === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [00:37] hi [00:37] is anyone there??? [00:37] i need help with ubuntu [00:37] can someone help me please? [00:37] edoroman1: for Ubuntu help, try #ubuntu [00:38] ok thanks === starcraft is now known as starcraftman === starcraftman is now known as starcraft === starcraft is now known as starcraftman === starcraftman is now known as starcraft === starcraft is now known as starcraftman [13:22] hey guys [13:39] BiosElement: ping [13:54] doctormo: ping [13:54] nigel_nb: pong [13:54] hey, how are you? heard you were sick [13:56] need an update on the new formatting [13:57] _marx_: heard you guys had some issue in your loco with people not being okay with IRC.... [14:05] doctormo: are you busy? [14:11] nigel_nb: About to go out [14:11] oh, later then [14:11] nigel_nb: The formatting is the same AFAIK, can we sit down later? [14:11] I'll finish everything the way I was doing and we'll do this later [14:12] bte: http://www.sitasingstheblues.com/watch.html [14:12] some trouble with conversion, pleia2 was telling me [14:13] nigel_nb: Interesting, we'll pick this up later, I've slowly recovering ebnough to get back on top of it. [14:46] pleia2: you probably should change the /topic and remove stuff about meeting from wiki [14:47] nigel_nb: yeah, I'll do that when I prep the meeting page and stuff [14:47] sorry, still a bit sick :( [14:48] you want me to get the wiki ready? [14:48] I think I can do it (if u tell me what I have to do) [14:49] hope you get well soon :) [14:50] Meeting? [14:50] Did someone say meeting?!?!?!! [14:50] * ZachK_ loves meetings [14:50] meeting's over [14:50] damn [14:52] * pleia2 passes the swear jar to ZachK_ [14:52] ZachK_: FYI, this channel HAS public logs, so what u say is set in stone [14:52] nigel_nb: just take a look at past meeting pages where we link to logs and write minutes (or at least copy the agenda over) [14:53] * ZachK_ swears in jar...thanks pleia2 [14:53] hey pleia2 [14:53] nigel_nb: like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/Agenda/07272009 [14:53] ZachK_: no, you put money in it :) [14:53] pleia2: ok...... [14:53] nigel_nb: if you don't get to the "minutes" part, that's ok :) but the top is important [14:53] * ZachK_ puts 1ยข in the jar [14:54] pleia2: okay, I saw the point where you got lazy and just started linking them [14:54] * ZachK_ smacks nigel_nb [14:54] don't you dare call pleia2 lazy! [14:54] nigel_nb: yeah, I think swoody was going to go through and fix those up but I think he got busy [14:54] * ZachK_ laughs.... [14:55] messing 'round...i'm still a little wacky from work [14:56] ZachK_: well, I did hear her say herself :P [14:56] nigel_nb: i know dude....hehehe [14:56] i'm messing with you.... [14:57] nigel_nb: I'm messing with you 'cause I miss my padawan...you grew up so fast! [14:58] ha :P [15:18] <_marx_> nigel_nb: folks commenting that IRC isn't "beginner-ish" [15:19] _marx_: I went through the mail archives [15:19] will it be possible to have videos on connecting to IRC from empathy/pidgin? [15:19] screencasts :) [15:19] we could upload it and send it to our loco [15:20] even the web interface would be fine [15:20] we just need people to understand how to connect, how to see the session, and how to ask questions [15:21] <_marx_> screencast/video a good idea I think [15:21] <_marx_> but one on XChat as well [15:21] sure [15:21] if u can do the audio, I can get the video done [15:21] XChat isn't what I'd use for beginners [15:22] mhall119|work: +1 [15:22] * _marx_ gtk-recordmydesktop doesn't record sound for some reason [15:22] _marx_: have compiz enabled? [15:22] <_marx_> yes [15:22] _marx_: audio is supposed to be recorded later anyway [15:22] oh, sound [15:22] yeah [15:22] none of the desktop recorders I've used record sound [15:22] mhall119|work: it wont [15:23] <_marx_> even when i disconnect webcam so there's only one mic [15:23] I went through some guide for it [15:23] audio should be recorded later using some other software [15:23] you might be able to record sounds with something like Audacity while you're recording the screen [15:23] like Kino [15:23] <_marx_> yeah and then mixed [15:23] yep [15:23] audacity will work [15:23] <_marx_> now that's a thought [15:23] I can do the video and upload it to rapidshare [15:24] <_marx_> yeah audacity picks up either mic on my sys [15:24] can you download, do the audio and get it to me? [15:24] I'll mix the audio/video and upload on blip.tv [15:24] and we can send it out to our respective loco's [15:24] my accent won't be really friendly for everyone :( [15:24] <_marx_> i'll give it a shot [15:25] <_marx_> haha [15:25] <_marx_> it'll be like calling some tech support ;-) [15:25] haha, true [15:25] that could serve as a lasting video for classroom sessions too [15:26] <_marx_> now here's a weird idea, same video, different accents [15:27] could work, but I think a neutral accent might work for everyone [15:27] <_marx_> hollywood accent [15:27] that would spoil it :P [15:27] * _marx_ has a touch of the US south [15:28] if nothing works, there's always the good doc :) [15:29] _marx_: just to confirm, what all are we do we need? [15:29] empathy, pidgin, web.. enough? [15:30] mhall119|work: comments on ^^ [15:30] <_marx_> yeah i think so [15:30] nigel_nb: I think so, yes [15:30] <_marx_> the wiki on xchat is pretty thorough [15:30] any default install will have pidgin or empathy [15:30] and web of course is available to all [15:31] * _marx_ ttrying istanbul now [15:31] web would be the most user friendly [15:31] <_marx_> and stuttering ;) [15:31] yeah [15:31] _marx_: probably compiz [15:32] gtk-recordmydesktop works pretty will for me even with compiz [15:32] <_marx_> isn't it SOP to use default desktop bg? [15:32] _marx_: got virtualbox? [15:33] <_marx_> yes, running lucid on it [15:33] the SOP is to use a clean install so that all themes/backgrounds would be default [15:33] and the soft uses less space that way [15:33] <_marx_> hum, well it's no longer all defaults either [15:33] new vm? ;) [15:34] <_marx_> it's close enough i've not added much to it [15:35] <_marx_> http://www.flickr.com/photos/markthecarp/4081269643 [15:35] <_marx_> just change the bg back to default from that one ;) [15:35] oh yeah, the background defintely needs to change :) [15:36] I'll get you the SOP on videos === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-learning to: Ubuntu Community Learning Project | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning | Next Meeting: TBD | Support in #ubuntu [15:36] ah, good pleia2 :) [15:37] _marx_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts [15:37] from the screencast team [15:37] <_marx_> thanks nigel_nb [15:37] yaay! I'm off today, so I get some stuff done today itself [17:24] * _marx_ screencast attempts did not go well [17:39] _marx_: how bad? [18:00] _marx_: still with me here or split away? [18:41] pleia2: the penguins in your christmas deco looks soooo geeky :) [18:41] nigel_nb_: thanks ;) [19:47] <_marx_> i'm back nigel_nb_ splits are bad today [19:47] yeah [19:48] how did your first attempt go? === nigel_nb_ is now known as nigel_nb [19:48] <_marx_> gtk-recordmydesktop wants to capture the entire virtual box window [19:49] <_marx_> vbox is really loading my system up I suspect it's the state of lucid [19:50] <_marx_> if we're off topic in here we can take this somewhere else [19:50] nope we're not [19:50] userdays comes under learning team [19:51] and what we're doing is related to user days [19:51] * nigel_nb hopes he is right [19:51] _marx_: to solve that problem, try xvidcap [19:51] it allows you set the area to be captured [19:52] <_marx_> that's cool because that's exactly what I was thinking [19:52] <_marx_> you think 1.5 gig ram is enough? [19:52] wow [19:53] that should be more that enough [19:53] okay, this is me from empathy [19:53] not, bad, now I know what to do :P [19:54] <_marx_> doesn't seem that much easier than xchat to me [19:55] actually, I find it more clunky [19:55] coz for the class, you need to be in 2 rooms at once [19:55] one for class and one for questions [19:56] <_marx_> istanbul was a complete, well nearly complete mystery [19:58] istanbul captures the whole screen [19:58] that must be why screencast team recommends xvidcap [20:01] <_marx_> slow, recording now [20:02] and that's me er marx [20:02] _marx_: from empathy huh? [20:02] <_marx_> yes [20:03] <_marx_> from lucid while recording [20:03] oh cool [20:03] <_marx_> I think i will need to use a fresh karmic install [20:03] while recording, it would be nice to join #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat directly [20:03] <_marx_> yes, that was just a test run [20:03] so, it will be to the point, users will just need to follow it directly [20:03] hows xvid? [20:04] <_marx_> capture success ration 57.51% [20:05] <_marx_> the video is usable though [20:06] great [20:06] so which means we are going the right way [20:06] * _marx_ needs the test run just to learn empathy ;) [20:06] same here [20:08] * _marx_ testing emapathy only again w/two channels [20:09] looks okay with two channels [20:10] * nigel_nb is creating new virtual machine with karmic [20:13] * _marx_ was hoping there was a ~/.empathy so I could just delete or move it for simulated fresh installation [20:14] <_marx_> ah found it [20:20] * _marx_ will do same once lucid finishes upgrading [20:20] you'll do empathy? [20:21] I'll get the web done in that case [20:21] <_marx_> fresh karmic install [20:21] getting the fresh one [20:25] * _marx_ sound portion is bad, too much bg noise from 4 pc's running [20:26] what are you recording on, audacity? [20:26] <_marx_> yep [20:28] oh, cool [20:28] fresh install this time? [20:28] <_marx_> it's almost ready [20:30] mine's at 40% :( [20:30] <_marx_> using a cd or hd image? [20:30] cd [20:30] <_marx_> I think it's a little faster from hd image [20:30] i *cough* *cough* deleted my image or moved it someplace and I dont remember where [20:31] <_marx_> oops [20:31] <_marx_> hum wonder if vbox can boot over the network [20:33] i think you need the non-free version [20:34] <_marx_> that's what I'm using; the one from sun [20:34] oh [20:34] I'm using vbox from repos [20:34] <_marx_> well you can add the sun repo [20:36] so far, this one's okay [20:36] I dont own a flash drive, so not much incentive getting the other one [20:40] <_marx_> I found USB and network bridging better [20:42] <_marx_> nigel_nb: you'll beat me to it: i have to start over using a different partition [20:42] _marx_: what happened? [20:43] <_marx_> default is to use /home which doesn't have enough room so i'll start over using /data [20:43] <_marx_> second hd w/lots of space [20:43] ah [20:47] swoody: were you able to get around to doing the meeting stuff? [20:48] nigel_nb, indeed not :( [20:48] I think I might get time to help [20:48] I got 6 hours more today [20:48] not much free time with all the holiday crud (read: in-laws) [20:48] after a few screencasts, I'll get around to doing them :) [20:48] nigel_nb, that would truly be great :) [20:49] if not, I'm still planning on tackling them when I get some time [20:49] swoody: if u could review them later and make edits, it would be great : [20:49] :) [20:49] nigel_nb, just use the few existing ones as examples, and I'm sure you'll catch on quick :) [20:49] but I'd be glad to look them over [20:49] swoody: hopefully I will [20:50] first order of buisness today is screencasts, then bzr module, then the meeting [20:50] sounds like you have quite the full plate ;) [20:56] swoody: not really, marx is helping with screencasts (we're both doing them together), bzr module needs only 2 more sections, and meeting (that might take some time) [21:26] _marx_: I'm at 100% :) [21:27] hey nigel_nb [21:27] hey cprofitt :) [21:28] * _marx_ upgrading from alpha6 to final [21:28] cprofitt: some of the loco guys fro nc wanted some help with irc [21:28] nice [21:28] get them involved [21:28] getting around to doing screencasts on using pidgin/empathy/web chat [21:28] its for the user days [21:29] sounds good... [21:30] so we thought we'd do it and update the locos and any new announcements can have it too [21:30] and classroom team can have it permanently === swoody_ is now known as swoody === steve____ is now known as swoody [22:43] pleia2: around? [22:49] hey nigel_nb [22:50] hey FFEMTcJ congrats on membership :) [22:50] ty bud [22:51] marx ran into some trouble with his loco people of the opinion that irc is too tough [22:51] I saw that.. [22:51] Thought Lernid would work perfect [22:51] lernid is still buggy [22:51] <_marx_> well probably not for January [22:51] we both are trying to get screencasts out [22:53] <_marx_> nigel_nb: my fresh vbox is _finally finished upgrading, might have been faster to dl current, I just forgot my hd image was alpha6 [22:53] hehe [22:53] mine is ready too [22:53] but now I'm patching something :P [22:54] I'll take at least 1.5 hours to get to screen casts [22:54] <_marx_> no prob [22:54] <_marx_> we'll get it done in plenty of time === swoody is now known as Guest89199 [23:40] _marx_: I'm starting my pidgin screenshot :) [23:47] akgraner: around? [23:51] <_marx_> nigel_nb: do you have a usable empathy one [23:51] _marx_: not yet [23:51] do u want one? [23:52] rather, do u want me to make one? [23:52] <_marx_> i'm fixin' to try for one [23:52] I thought u cud do empathy [23:52] <_marx_> my install is all patched up now [23:52] and I'll get the videos ready for pidgin and web, and you could do the narration [23:52] I'm trying to get akgraner or pleia2 for a female voice in one of them [23:53] <_marx_> akgraner: hasn't responded to some minor taunts in team channel [23:54] anyone else we could rope in ? [23:54] the loco channel u mean? [23:54] <_marx_> for voice overs? [23:54] yea [23:54] <_marx_> yes loco channel [23:55] <_marx_> might ask in ubuntu-women [23:55] you want me to ask or you'll go ahead? [23:57] <_marx_> wait a bit akgraner will bite JFo's bait [23:58] <_marx_> looking at default install I didn't realize how much I change from default [23:59] i asked in women