=== Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [08:01] good morning [10:23] czajkowski: are you in touch with Daniel Dolinov? [10:24] czajkowski: I have a bunch of mails I didn't answer yet and not sure where things stand there :) [10:24] I'm waiting to hear back from him in fact [10:24] ah nice :) [10:24] he;s on my to email today list [10:24] * dholbach hugs czajkowski [10:25] I chatted with him and Paolo over 2 weeks ago re marketing the ngo interviews and a possible webinar [10:25] also this channel is now logged [10:25] :) [10:25] so if folks aren't in here [10:25] progress! :) [10:25] but they can see conversations [10:25] slowly but surely :) [10:43] dholbach: I was gonna update the bp, but saw it was done so just mailed the gobby doc out to the mailing list in case folks hadn't seen it [10:45] czajkowski: good thinking - it was good to get it on the ml [10:49] just wanted to keep everyone in the loop and I know the gobby doc is there, just folks may not think of going and getting it [10:52] * dholbach hugs czajkowski [10:52] * czajkowski grins [10:52] you are the king of hugs my dear [10:56] :-) [11:07] is it good practice to put a link to the logs in the /topic? [11:07] although the topic is a bit link-heavy :-) [11:08] AlanBell: some channels do others don't [11:08] I don't mind [11:08] :) [11:08] I kind of like it in the -uk topic [11:09] yes, but yer a noisey bunch [11:09] true [11:10] not quiet and refined like our friends to the west :-) [11:13] we could put all the links in the header of the NGO wiki page [11:15] oh nice idea [11:15] I am not that bothered either way to be honest, I was just curious about the IRC etiquette of it. I am a bit of a newcommer to IRC [11:16] AlanBell: I only got the channel logged in the last week or so [11:16] just so folks could read if stuff happens in here and don't run screen sessions or don't use irc [11:16] logging is a good idea [12:57] AlanBell: what was that payroll software you mentioned that ran on linux ? [12:58] payroll is a tricky one [12:58] I use gnucash and payroll is a bit manual and a bit casual [12:59] there is a plan to add a payroll module to openerp [12:59] AlanBell: oculd you put this on the wiki somewhere? [12:59] /NGO/resouces/Payroll? [12:59] save me asking and I'm sure others would be interested? [12:59] most people of a certain size outsource their payroll and just treat the payroll supplier as a regular supplier that bills them 12 invoices per year [13:00] but for contractors adn small companies.. [13:00] well what I do is transfer money from the company account to my account [13:01] my accountant gives me 12 payslips at the start of each year [13:01] and it just goes in gnucash as a transaction and I set up an account like a cost code for each of us [13:02] what is NGO about it? [13:02] I would have thought that the smaller NGOs would be staffed by volunteers and would not run payroll [13:03] and do all the national insurance stuff that goes with it [13:03] just pay expenses [13:03] nope all use a form of a payroll [13:03] plus I was also interested as read about it elsewhere and looking for an oss solution [13:04] AlanBell: is that the same as quickbooks? [13:04] I believe gnucash and quickbooks are in the same ballpark [13:05] but I have never seen quickbooks [13:06] and google gears has broken my firefox so I can't even look it up :-( [13:06] hmm [13:06] ok [13:14] ok, fixed. Quickbooks would appear to be somewhat similar to gnucash [13:44] nods [14:02] from what little quickbooks exposure I've had, gnucash seems very similar [14:04] aye [15:41] I am happy to do something about accountancy and payroll and suchlike, but I don't know how I would put an NGO spin on it [15:42] AlanBell: well just from an oss slant [15:42] on the wiki page [15:42] so we can reference it [15:43] that I can do, I will have a think about it and do something [15:43] possibly over christmas [15:47] okie dokie === ebel_ is now known as ebel [20:28] so I'm working on paper Jams for the NGO [20:28] basically something that;s bigger than a paper cut [20:28] like a typo, or naming conventions [20:28] that are across teams [20:28] so documentaion [20:29] translations [20:29] working with the design team on this [20:29] and I've to chose one of the interviews to be used as a test case