[08:01] <dholbach> good morning
[10:23] <dholbach> czajkowski: are you in touch with Daniel Dolinov?
[10:24] <dholbach> czajkowski: I have a bunch of mails I didn't answer yet and not sure where things stand there :)
[10:24] <czajkowski> I'm waiting to hear back from him in fact
[10:24] <dholbach> ah nice :)
[10:24] <czajkowski> he;s on my to email today list
[10:24]  * dholbach hugs czajkowski
[10:25] <czajkowski> I chatted with him and Paolo over 2 weeks ago re marketing the ngo interviews and a possible webinar
[10:25] <czajkowski> also this channel is now logged
[10:25] <czajkowski> :)
[10:25] <czajkowski> so if folks aren't in here
[10:25] <dholbach> progress! :)
[10:25] <czajkowski> but they can see conversations
[10:25] <czajkowski> slowly but surely :)
[10:43] <czajkowski> dholbach: I was gonna update the bp, but saw it was done so just mailed the gobby doc out to the mailing list in case folks hadn't seen it
[10:45] <dholbach> czajkowski: good thinking - it was good to get it on the ml
[10:49] <czajkowski> just wanted to keep everyone in the loop and I know the gobby doc is there, just folks may not think of going and getting it
[10:52]  * dholbach hugs czajkowski
[10:52]  * czajkowski grins 
[10:52] <czajkowski> you are the king of hugs my dear
[10:56] <dholbach> :-)
[11:07] <AlanBell> is it good practice to put a link to the logs in the /topic?
[11:07] <AlanBell> although the topic is a bit link-heavy :-)
[11:08] <czajkowski> AlanBell: some channels do others don't
[11:08] <czajkowski> I don't mind
[11:08] <czajkowski> :)
[11:08] <AlanBell> I kind of like it in the -uk topic
[11:09] <czajkowski> yes, but yer a noisey bunch
[11:09] <AlanBell> true
[11:10] <AlanBell> not quiet and refined like our friends to the west :-)
[11:13] <dholbach> we could put all the links in the header of the NGO wiki page
[11:15] <czajkowski> oh nice idea
[11:15] <AlanBell> I am not that bothered either way to be honest, I was just curious about the IRC etiquette of it. I am a bit of a newcommer to IRC
[11:16] <czajkowski> AlanBell: I only got the channel logged in the last week or so
[11:16] <czajkowski> just so folks could read if stuff happens in here and don't run screen sessions or don't use irc
[11:16] <AlanBell> logging is a good idea
[12:57] <czajkowski> AlanBell: what was that payroll software you mentioned that ran on linux ?
[12:58] <AlanBell> payroll is a tricky one
[12:58] <AlanBell> I use gnucash and payroll is a bit manual and a bit casual
[12:59] <AlanBell> there is a plan to add a payroll module to openerp
[12:59] <czajkowski> AlanBell: oculd you put this on the wiki somewhere?
[12:59] <czajkowski> /NGO/resouces/Payroll?
[12:59] <czajkowski> save me asking and I'm sure others would be interested?
[12:59] <AlanBell> most people of a certain size outsource their payroll and just treat the payroll supplier as a regular supplier that bills them 12 invoices per year
[13:00] <czajkowski> but for contractors adn small companies..
[13:00] <AlanBell> well what I do is transfer money from the company account to my account
[13:01] <AlanBell> my accountant gives me 12 payslips at the start of each year
[13:01] <AlanBell> and it just goes in gnucash as a transaction and I set up an account like a cost code for each of us
[13:02] <AlanBell> what is NGO about it?
[13:02] <AlanBell> I would have thought that the smaller NGOs would be staffed by volunteers and would not run payroll
[13:03] <AlanBell> and do all the national insurance stuff that goes with it
[13:03] <AlanBell> just pay expenses
[13:03] <czajkowski> nope all use a form of a payroll
[13:03] <czajkowski> plus I was also interested as read about it elsewhere and looking for an oss solution
[13:04] <czajkowski> AlanBell: is that the same as quickbooks?
[13:04] <AlanBell> I believe gnucash and quickbooks are in the same ballpark
[13:05] <AlanBell> but I have never seen quickbooks
[13:06] <AlanBell> and google gears has broken my firefox so I can't even look it up :-(
[13:06] <czajkowski> hmm
[13:06] <czajkowski> ok
[13:14] <AlanBell> ok, fixed. Quickbooks would appear to be somewhat similar to gnucash
[13:44] <czajkowski> nods
[14:02] <mhall119|work> from what little quickbooks exposure I've had, gnucash seems very similar
[14:04] <czajkowski> aye
[15:41] <AlanBell> I am happy to do something about accountancy and payroll and suchlike, but I don't know how I would put an NGO spin on it
[15:42] <czajkowski> AlanBell: well just from an oss slant
[15:42] <czajkowski> on the wiki page
[15:42] <czajkowski> so we can reference it
[15:43] <AlanBell> that I can do, I will have a think about it and do something
[15:43] <AlanBell> possibly over christmas
[15:47] <czajkowski> okie dokie
[20:28] <czajkowski> so I'm working on paper Jams for the NGO
[20:28] <czajkowski> basically something that;s bigger than a paper cut
[20:28] <czajkowski> like a typo, or naming conventions
[20:28] <czajkowski> that are across teams
[20:28] <czajkowski> so documentaion
[20:29] <czajkowski> translations
[20:29] <czajkowski> working with the design team on this
[20:29] <czajkowski> and I've to chose one of the interviews to be used as a test case