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davmor2 | Morning All | 08:38 |
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yos | After todays distribution upgrade, I can't use kppp to connect to the internet | 10:07 |
davmor2 | yos: you might want to let #kubuntu-devel know that | 10:14 |
yos | I'm on ubuntu...I just finished filing a bug report | 10:16 |
davmor2 | yos: out of interest if your on ubuntu why use kppp to connect to the net does network-manager not do it for you? | 10:18 |
yos | It is for a broadband dongle that I use for the internet...network manager doesn't work for it | 10:19 |
davmor2 | yos: hope you file a bug against that? | 10:20 |
yos | I did | 10:20 |
yos | I used ubuntu-bug to report it | 10:20 |
davmor2 | yos: I meant the dongle. Most are supported out of the box | 10:21 |
yos | I have two dongles | 10:21 |
yos | neither of them work out of the box | 10:21 |
davmor2 | yos: I have 3 here and they all work | 10:22 |
yos | I'm using wvdial right now | 10:22 |
davmor2 | 1 three, 1 orange and 1 t-mobile | 10:22 |
yos | Novatel U727 | 10:22 |
yos | and the other, Sierra Wireless compass 888 | 10:23 |
yos | Don't know exactly where to file the bug reports for them. With network-manager? | 10:24 |
davmor2 | yos: yes just do lspci -vvnn > lspci.txt with the dongle in and report it as "name-of-dongle 3g dongle doesn't work with network-manager". or something similar. | 10:29 |
yos | lspci -vvnn > lspci.txt didn't do anything | 10:31 |
davmor2 | yos: you should have a file in the folder your in that is called lspci.txt just attach it to the bug report | 10:34 |
yos | I am using ubuntu-bug network-manager to report it now...I will attach that file to it | 10:35 |
yos | Where is lspci.txt located? | 10:40 |
yos | davmor2, ^^ | 10:40 |
davmor2 | yos: try in your home directory | 10:41 |
yos | Ok, found it | 10:42 |
yos | Wow, that sent a lot of files with the bug report | 10:45 |
davmor2 | yos: the lspci -vvnn is useful in that it list the hardware very verbosely and contains all the names including manufacturer etc. It's a very useful tool when reporting hardware issues | 10:45 |
yos | I won't be able to file the report with my other dongle until I can get kppp sorted | 10:46 |
davmor2 | yos: well when you get chance just do the same thing again only do lspci -vvnn > lspci1.txt | 10:48 |
yos | davmor2, thank you; I have made a note of that for future reference | 10:53 |
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davmor2 | morning fader_ cr3 how's things | 14:04 |
cr3 | davmor2: hey dude | 14:04 |
fader_ | davmor2: Howdy man | 14:04 |
cr3 | davmor2: same ol', same ol' | 14:04 |
davmor2 | cr3: don't run live cds they're ummm broken no networking no installer | 14:04 |
fader_ | davmor2: Yeah, but a Real Man doesn't need an installer. Just a magnet and tweezers. | 14:06 |
cr3 | davmor2: I tried them yesterday and language pack didn't seem to be installing | 14:06 |
davmor2 | cr3: No this is crashing ubiquity | 14:06 |
cr3 | I just whistle modem noises into my oscilloscope and magnetise the disk directly | 14:07 |
davmor2 | fader_: Yeah but I'm testing it out for losers like you dude ;) | 14:07 |
fader_ | davmor2: touché | 14:07 |
davmor2 | fader_: :D | 14:08 |
davmor2 | I'm assuming that was meant to read touche | 14:08 |
davmor2 | cr3: alternate seems okay though on a plus note :) | 14:09 |
davmor2 | moustafa: morning | 14:09 |
fader_ | davmor2: Nah, it was supposed to read "touché"... not my fault if your font doesn't even support French characters ;) | 14:10 |
cr3 | davmor2: yeah, just installed it | 14:11 |
cr3 | thank goodness for that, I need to get some tests working today | 14:11 |
moustafa | davmor2: Morning | 14:11 |
moustafa | cr3: L-Shape! | 14:11 |
moustafa | fader_ : Voici mon passeport! | 14:12 |
fader_ | moustafa: Je voudrais un croissant. | 14:12 |
moustafa | cr3: That's right, he would like a croissant. | 14:12 |
cr3 | moustafa: line piece | 14:12 |
moustafa | cr3: Thou art a vengeful god! | 14:13 |
moustafa | For people to get what I anc cr3 are talking about, refer to this: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1924722 | 14:14 |
fader_ | davmor2: Out of curiosity, are the systems that don't have networking for you broadcom based using the bnx2 driver? | 15:08 |
fader_ | I just reported bug 494052 against d-i and wonder if it's hitting ubiquity as well | 15:08 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 494052 in debian-installer "bnx2 driver cannot find firmware" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494052 | 15:08 |
davmor2 | fader_: no it's onlt the live cd | 15:08 |
davmor2 | pitti: davmor2: network-manager problem> ah, got it; it's a dhcp3-client/apparmor problem; sudo aa-complain dhclient3 fixes it | 15:09 |
davmor2 | pitti: (I got some violations in dmesg) | 15:09 |
davmor2 | pitti: it stumbles over /rofs again | 15:09 |
davmor2 | only even | 15:09 |
fader_ | davmor2: Ah, so networking works for you on the alternate? | 15:09 |
davmor2 | yeap | 15:09 |
fader_ | I see... thanks | 15:10 |
fagan | hmmmm when should I start upgrade testing | 15:48 |
fagan | I was thinking alpha 2 | 15:48 |
fagan | Any reason I should start earlier? | 15:49 |
fagan | Oh and cr3 I can do some regression testing tomorrow (im getting my spare machine back from my dad) could you put the steps to do the tests into a wiki for me? | 15:50 |
fagan | mvo: do you have a ppa with new versions of the software center I can test? | 15:52 |
* fagan will bring up the upgrade testing at the qa team meeting | 15:56 | |
fader_ | fagan: Good idea about bringing this up at the team meeting; people might have reasons that we need to start earlier | 16:02 |
fagan | actually fader_ is there a wiki so I can add it to the agenda? | 16:04 |
fagan | ah ill just ask marjo to add it tomorrow at the meeting | 16:08 |
mvo | fagan: a ppa with a karmic backport? or for lucid? | 16:08 |
fader_ | fagan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/ | 16:09 |
fagan | lucid | 16:09 |
fagan | thanks fader_ | 16:09 |
fader_ | fagan: No problem :) | 16:09 |
fagan | mvo: lucid | 16:10 |
mvo | fagan: ok, lucid is usually very current, i uploaded a new version today | 16:10 |
fagan | Yep I got it | 16:11 |
fagan | I was just thinking that you might have a more regularly updated ppa | 16:11 |
mvo | there is a bzr snapshot ppa too (https://edge.launchpad.net/~software-store-developers/+archive/daily-build) | 16:11 |
mvo | joerge runs that | 16:12 |
fagan | I think ill add that | 16:12 |
* fagan likes the bleeding edge | 16:12 | |
moustafa | Wasn't there a bleeding edge team/ppa for Ubuntu before? | 16:14 |
* fagan would be interested in that team | 16:15 | |
fagan | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bleedingedge | 16:16 |
moustafa | Damn, was about to post the link | 16:17 |
moustafa | It's too bad that the lastest package they have is from 2008 | 16:17 |
fagan | hah | 16:17 |
fagan | Well maybe we can revive it | 16:17 |
moustafa | That would be interesting. Although I don't have much experience in terms of packaging, but that can be remedied | 16:19 |
fagan | Id like if the developers would upload all of the bleeding edge packages for us | 16:19 |
fagan | and we just test them | 16:20 |
fagan | So it should be for stuff that really needs testing | 16:20 |
* fagan adds it to the qa team meeting so we all can have a say on it | 16:20 | |
moustafa | Bleeding edge stuff is fun. I hope the qa team approves | 16:25 |
fagan | I was thinking of making it a beginners testing team | 16:26 |
fagan | So people can dive in and test the stuff before it gets into the repos | 16:27 |
moustafa | Getting the most out of those who want the latest and greatest to be included in the next distro | 16:28 |
fagan | thats the idea | 16:29 |
soren | Whoo! Graphical installs working in kvm-autotest. | 16:54 |
* soren goes to dinner, and will finish the first few steps files off this evening | 16:54 | |
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davmor2 | cr3: back dude | 18:12 |
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cr3 | davmor2: man, I've been answering each of your private messages but it seems the netsplit got the best of us | 18:14 |
cr3 | davmor2: I'm on my way out to lunch, I'll ping you when I return | 18:15 |
davmor2 | cr3: That's what I assumed that's why I came onto the channel :)( | 18:15 |
davmor2 | no probs | 18:15 |
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davmor2 | RIght I'm off guys tty tomorrow have a nice night and thanks again cr3 :) | 21:22 |
cr3 | I wish there were python-o's cereal | 21:23 |
fader_ | cr3: http://img376.imageshack.us/i/1337cereal070kh7.jpg/ is the closest thing they sell in the stores in Boston | 21:27 |
cr3 | fader_: they really have that? | 21:32 |
cr3 | sbeattie: yo, the 500Mb download of the qa-regression-testing suite is causing pain in my datacenters: extremely slow. | 21:32 |
cr3 | sbeattie: so, I will be extending checkbox-satellite to create a local copy of it as well as the other third party suites so that the systems connected on the network can refer to the local copy instead | 21:33 |
sbeattie | that seems reasonable, I think. | 21:34 |
cr3 | since I use a caching proxy, I thought that would help significantly, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I haven't looked into the reason, maybe bzr sets the no-cache header, not sure | 21:34 |
cr3 | this makes the setup much more complicated though, but nothing I can't handle in time for alpha-1 (crossing fingers) | 21:35 |
cr3 | fader_: oatmeal is the sux! | 21:35 |
fader_ | cr3: that is where I get all my 1337 sk1llz d00d | 21:36 |
fader_ | All mad crazy downloading my OS and stuff without paying for it | 21:36 |
cr3 | fader_: instead of a toy, do you get a cd of 0-day warez? | 21:39 |
fader_ | cr3: The prize in the last box was a bump key | 21:40 |
soren | cr3: Dear, oh dear. autotest is a beast. | 21:54 |
cr3 | soren: yeah, leave that one to me. | 21:54 |
soren | cr3: I'm using it right now. The kvm-autotest magic is all intertwined in it. | 21:54 |
soren | cr3: autotest itself had 3 or 4 processes running, each consuming 300-400 MB of memory. Doing a server install in a VM at the same time took forever. | 21:55 |
cr3 | soren: hm, how come it's so intertwined? | 21:56 |
soren | cr3: Setting the VM up with all its configuration and stuff is a bit tricky, and then you have to hook up a python script to talk to it. Because it's tricky, there's a script that does it, but it's only runnable by autotest (because autotest does weird, black(!) python magic to work). | 21:58 |
cr3 | soren: magic is usually not a good thing, do you have this in a bzr tree? | 22:00 |
soren | cr3: I'm waiting for the launchpad import to finish. | 22:00 |
soren | cr3: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~soren/autotest/trunk | 22:00 |
soren | cr3: once that's pulled, I'll push my changes. | 22:00 |
soren | Probably tomorrow morning. I need to spend a bit of time with the family. | 22:00 |
cr3 | soren: yeah man, it's really late, /quit! | 22:01 |
soren | I have the first server install test fully automated. It's wicked. | 22:01 |
* soren waves goodbye and vanishes | 22:01 | |
moustafa | well, good evening everyone | 22:03 |
moustafa | and squiggily | 22:03 |
cr3 | pip pip, cheerio | 22:15 |
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