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davmor2Morning All08:38
yosAfter todays distribution upgrade, I can't use kppp to connect to the internet10:07
davmor2yos: you might want to let #kubuntu-devel know that10:14
yosI'm on ubuntu...I just finished filing a bug report10:16
davmor2yos: out of interest if your on ubuntu why use kppp to connect to the net does network-manager not do it for you?10:18
yosIt is for a broadband dongle that I use for the internet...network manager doesn't work for it10:19
davmor2yos: hope you file a bug against that?10:20
yosI did10:20
yosI used ubuntu-bug to report it10:20
davmor2yos: I meant the dongle.  Most are supported out of the box10:21
yosI have two dongles10:21
yosneither of them work out of the box10:21
davmor2yos: I have 3 here and they all work10:22
yosI'm using wvdial right now10:22
davmor21 three, 1 orange and 1 t-mobile10:22
yosNovatel U72710:22
yosand the other, Sierra Wireless compass 88810:23
yosDon't know exactly where to file the bug reports for them.  With network-manager?10:24
davmor2yos: yes just do lspci -vvnn > lspci.txt with the dongle in and report it as "name-of-dongle 3g dongle doesn't work with network-manager".  or something similar.10:29
yoslspci -vvnn > lspci.txt didn't do anything10:31
davmor2yos: you should have a file in the folder your in that is called lspci.txt just attach it to the bug report10:34
yosI am using ubuntu-bug network-manager to report it now...I will attach that file to it10:35
yosWhere is lspci.txt located?10:40
yosdavmor2, ^^10:40
davmor2yos: try in your home directory10:41
yosOk, found it10:42
yosWow, that sent a lot of files with the bug report10:45
davmor2yos: the lspci -vvnn is useful in that it list the hardware very verbosely and contains all the names including manufacturer etc.  It's a very useful tool when reporting hardware issues10:45
yosI won't be able to file the report with my other dongle until I can get kppp sorted10:46
davmor2yos: well when you get chance just do the same thing again only do lspci -vvnn > lspci1.txt10:48
yosdavmor2, thank you; I have made a note of that for future reference10:53
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davmor2morning fader_ cr3 how's things14:04
cr3davmor2: hey dude14:04
fader_davmor2: Howdy man14:04
cr3davmor2: same ol', same ol'14:04
davmor2cr3: don't run live cds they're ummm broken no networking no installer14:04
fader_davmor2: Yeah, but a Real Man doesn't need an installer.  Just a magnet and tweezers.14:06
cr3davmor2: I tried them yesterday and language pack didn't seem to be installing14:06
davmor2cr3: No this is crashing ubiquity14:06
cr3I just whistle modem noises into my oscilloscope and magnetise the disk directly14:07
davmor2fader_: Yeah but I'm testing it out for losers like you dude ;)14:07
fader_davmor2: touché14:07
davmor2fader_: :D14:08
davmor2I'm assuming that was meant to read touche14:08
davmor2cr3: alternate seems okay though on a plus note :)14:09
davmor2moustafa: morning14:09
fader_davmor2: Nah, it was supposed to read "touché"... not my fault if your font doesn't even support French characters ;)14:10
cr3davmor2: yeah, just installed it14:11
cr3thank goodness for that, I need to get some tests working today14:11
moustafadavmor2: Morning14:11
moustafacr3: L-Shape!14:11
moustafafader_ : Voici mon passeport!14:12
fader_moustafa: Je voudrais un croissant.14:12
moustafacr3: That's right, he would like a croissant.14:12
cr3moustafa: line piece14:12
moustafacr3: Thou art a vengeful god!14:13
moustafaFor people to get what I anc cr3 are talking about, refer to this: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:192472214:14
fader_davmor2: Out of curiosity, are the systems that don't have networking for you broadcom based using the bnx2 driver?15:08
fader_I just reported bug 494052 against d-i and wonder if it's hitting ubiquity as well15:08
ubot4Launchpad bug 494052 in debian-installer "bnx2 driver cannot find firmware" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49405215:08
davmor2fader_: no it's onlt the live cd15:08
davmor2pitti: davmor2: network-manager problem> ah, got it; it's a dhcp3-client/apparmor problem; sudo aa-complain dhclient3 fixes it15:09
davmor2pitti: (I got some violations in dmesg)15:09
davmor2pitti: it stumbles over /rofs again15:09
davmor2only even15:09
fader_davmor2: Ah, so networking works for you on the alternate?15:09
davmor2yeap15:09
fader_I see... thanks15:10
faganhmmmm when should I start upgrade testing15:48
faganI was thinking alpha 215:48
faganAny reason I should start earlier?15:49
faganOh and cr3 I can do some regression testing tomorrow (im getting my spare machine back from my dad) could you put the steps to do the tests into a wiki for me?15:50
faganmvo: do you have a ppa with new versions of the software center I can test?15:52
* fagan will bring up the upgrade testing at the qa team meeting 15:56
fader_fagan: Good idea about bringing this up at the team meeting; people might have reasons that we need to start earlier16:02
faganactually fader_ is there a wiki so I can add it to the agenda?16:04
faganah ill just ask marjo to add it tomorrow at the meeting16:08
mvofagan: a ppa with a karmic backport? or for lucid?16:08
fader_fagan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/16:09
faganlucid16:09
faganthanks fader_16:09
fader_fagan: No problem :)16:09
faganmvo: lucid16:10
mvofagan: ok, lucid is usually very current, i uploaded a new version today16:10
faganYep I got it16:11
faganI was just thinking that you might have a more regularly updated ppa16:11
mvothere is a bzr snapshot ppa too (https://edge.launchpad.net/~software-store-developers/+archive/daily-build)16:11
mvojoerge runs that16:12
faganI think ill add that16:12
* fagan likes the bleeding edge16:12
moustafaWasn't there a bleeding edge team/ppa for Ubuntu before?16:14
* fagan would be interested in that team16:15
faganhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bleedingedge16:16
moustafaDamn, was about to post the link16:17
moustafaIt's too bad that the lastest package they have is from 200816:17
faganhah16:17
faganWell maybe we can revive it16:17
moustafaThat would be interesting.  Although I don't have much experience in terms of packaging, but that can be remedied16:19
faganId like if the developers would upload all of the bleeding edge packages for us16:19
faganand we just test them16:20
faganSo it should be for stuff that really needs testing16:20
* fagan adds it to the qa team meeting so we all can have a say on it16:20
moustafaBleeding edge stuff is fun.  I hope the qa team approves16:25
faganI was thinking of making it a beginners testing team16:26
faganSo people can dive in and test the stuff before it gets into the repos16:27
moustafaGetting the most out of those who want the latest and greatest to be included in the next distro16:28
faganthats the idea16:29
sorenWhoo! Graphical installs working in kvm-autotest.16:54
* soren goes to dinner, and will finish the first few steps files off this evening16:54
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davmor2cr3: back dude18:12
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cr3davmor2: man, I've been answering each of your private messages but it seems the netsplit got the best of us18:14
cr3davmor2: I'm on my way out to lunch, I'll ping you when I return18:15
davmor2cr3: That's what I assumed that's why I came onto the channel :)(18:15
davmor2no probs18:15
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davmor2RIght I'm off guys tty tomorrow have a nice night and thanks again cr3 :)21:22
cr3I wish there were python-o's cereal21:23
fader_cr3: http://img376.imageshack.us/i/1337cereal070kh7.jpg/ is the closest thing they sell in the stores in Boston21:27
cr3fader_: they really have that?21:32
cr3sbeattie: yo, the 500Mb download of the qa-regression-testing suite is causing pain in my datacenters: extremely slow.21:32
cr3sbeattie: so, I will be extending checkbox-satellite to create a local copy of it as well as the other third party suites so that the systems connected on the network can refer to the local copy instead21:33
sbeattiethat seems reasonable, I think.21:34
cr3since I use a caching proxy, I thought that would help significantly, but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I haven't looked into the reason, maybe bzr sets the no-cache header, not sure21:34
cr3this makes the setup much more complicated though, but nothing I can't handle in time for alpha-1 (crossing fingers)21:35
cr3fader_: oatmeal is the sux!21:35
fader_cr3: that is where I get all my 1337 sk1llz d00d21:36
fader_All mad crazy downloading my OS and stuff without paying for it21:36
cr3fader_: instead of a toy, do you get a cd of 0-day warez?21:39
fader_cr3: The prize in the last box was a bump key21:40
sorencr3: Dear, oh dear. autotest is a beast.21:54
cr3soren: yeah, leave that one to me.21:54
sorencr3: I'm using it right now. The kvm-autotest magic is all intertwined in it.21:54
sorencr3: autotest itself had 3 or 4 processes running, each consuming 300-400 MB of memory. Doing a server install in a VM at the same time took forever.21:55
cr3soren: hm, how come it's so intertwined?21:56
sorencr3: Setting the VM up with all its configuration and stuff is a bit tricky, and then you have to hook up a python script to talk to it. Because it's tricky, there's a script that does it, but it's only runnable by autotest (because autotest does weird, black(!) python magic to work).21:58
cr3soren: magic is usually not a good thing, do you have this in a bzr tree?22:00
sorencr3: I'm waiting for the launchpad import to finish.22:00
sorencr3: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~soren/autotest/trunk22:00
sorencr3: once that's pulled, I'll push my changes.22:00
sorenProbably tomorrow morning. I need to spend a bit of time with the family.22:00
cr3soren: yeah man, it's really late, /quit!22:01
sorenI have the first server install test fully automated. It's wicked.22:01
* soren waves goodbye and vanishes22:01
moustafawell, good evening everyone22:03
moustafaand squiggily22:03
cr3pip pip, cheerio22:15
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