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Sarvattjohanbr: i'll add that patch and upload now, it'll probably take forever to get pushed to master01:03
Sarvattthen again it'll probably take 24 hours to build on launchpad too :D01:03
johanbrgreat, thank you01:04
johanbrI just finished building the package myself01:04
johanbroff to test if it works now :)01:05
johanbrSarvatt, yep, the patch works fine... no more segfault01:12
Sarvattglad to hear it, added it as a hook for auto-xorg-git too for the time being, its nice not having to manually edit anything before upload every new commit :D01:17
Sarvattoops evdev 2.3.1 overrided git master, guess we're gonna have to fake the version number for master :D01:44
tjaaltonupgraded, but the mouse and keyboard didn't work if I just logged out07:49
tjaaltonand got failsafe after reboot07:58
tjaaltonhuh..07:58
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mac_vif i add <  radeon.modeset=0  > to the kernel line , it would turn off KMS?11:19
tjaaltonyes11:20
mac_vthanks :)11:20
tjaaltonjcristau: so, we discussed with pitti about the udev rules and triggers. the drivers should really run udevadm, since for instance here xserver-xorg was configured before evdev, resulting in no kbd&mouse after a logout (sure, it yelled to reboot, but..)11:25
jcristauok11:26
jcristaufeel free to change that in git11:27
jcristauand add Depends: udev [linux-any] i guess11:27
tjaaltonsure11:27
tjaaltonour 64-xorg-xkb.rules didn't work at all, fixed :)11:29
tjaaltongconf settings overrode the defaults though, so I didn't notice it11:30
jcristauheh11:30
jcristautjaalton: are you also adding xserver-xorg-input-{synaptics,evdev}-dev?11:35
tjaaltonjcristau: for the headers?11:36
jcristau.h and .pc, yes11:36
tjaaltonmaybe I could11:37
tjaaltonis there a postinst.in template I should use? looking at the xserver-xorg-core one..11:38
jcristauyeah stealing that seems fine11:40
tjaaltonjcristau: ok, pushed evdev postinst with the trigger11:49
jcristaulooks good11:52
jcristaui guess the server and synaptics need the same thing11:52
tjaaltonyeƄ11:52
tjaaltonuh11:52
tjaalton*yep11:52
jcristau:)11:53
tjaaltonI need lunch.. the fingers are getting stiff :)11:53
tjaaltonjcristau: and there goes evdev-dev12:00
tjaaltonnow lunch ->12:00
jcristautjaalton: thanks!  i pushed a small fixup on top.  enjoy lunch :)12:04
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tjaaltonjcristau: oh yeah, copied the deps from some lib :)12:23
jcristaui figured ;)12:24
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mac_vwhy is KMS turned off by default in .32-7 ?14:03
tjaaltonbecause userspace is not ready14:05
tjaaltonjcristau: wondering about the version comparison in xorg/evdev/synaptics. shouldn't the trigger run every time postinst is run?14:21
jcristauonly when the rules changed i think14:22
tjaaltonoh, good point14:22
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Sarvattoh good, the chrome beta build for linux is from right before all the rendering errors started happening in chromium. i thought they were intel related until i saw they happened on nvidia as well17:44
Sarvattwell it started around 4.0.260 in chromium and the chrome beta is based off of 11 days before that17:45
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notlisteningHi, I am using the bleeding edge x release from PPA, i have two atom 330 machines both with ion graphics, one with the updated x-server and the other without and i am playing back a HD movie and getting about 90% CPU usage on the one with the PPA and 150% on the one without. Is this the updated version making a difference or do I have to look elsewhere? This is on Ubuntu 9.10 with the latest Beta Nvidia Drivers 21:16
notlisteningoh and using lucid 21:18
tormodnotlistening, you mean xorg-edgers PPA?21:19
notlisteningyeah sorry i was not being exact with names there21:20
tormodlucid main has xserver 1.7, lucid xorg-edgers has xserver 1.8-pre-alpha, but I didn't know the nvidia blobs work with either21:21
notlisteningJust trying to track down the performace differences21:21
notlisteningoh I was just trying my luck :D21:22
tormodcheck the logs to see if there is any big difference there21:22
notlisteningthey wirjs fine so far as i can tell but i am not testing them beyong a media centres usage21:22
notlisteningoh ok, I do remember enabling DRI2 as well i think21:23
notlisteningshould i report my findings?21:24
tormodonly if you can single out some clear change, so far you findings are "anecdotal" to me :)21:26
tormodfor instance, change between 1.7 and 1.8 on the same machine21:27
notlisteningOk i will try that now as i have the setups, are the test to run like glxgears and look for performance differences etc?21:28
tormodglxgears is famous for not being a good benchmark21:28
tormodplaying the same movie and measure CPU is a bit better21:29
tormodis this a very new nvidia blob?21:29
notlisteningtormod, what is a blob?21:52
RAOFBinary blob - proprietary, closed-source driver.21:54
Sarvattthe binary driver thats not open source, just a big binary blob packaged up :D21:54
notlisteningthanks sorry quite new here 21:54
Sarvattyou want to find vdpau enabled versions of the movie playback software and switch the renderer to vdpau on an ion platform though21:55
Sarvattthe stuff in ubuntu doesn't have it enabled last i checked?21:55
notlisteningthe driver was released on 24/1121:56
Sarvattthat'll let you use the hardware acceleration on the gpu to play things back, but theres restrictions on the formats that it can accelerate so not everything can be accelerated that way even21:56
notlisteningI have added ppa for vdpau playback also21:57
notlisteningand have been trying the new flash 10.1 beta too :D21:57
Sarvattlast i checked there were some packaging errors for the 190 and 195 nvidia blobs in that ppa that didnt uninstall cleanly though :(21:57
Sarvattso are you using mplayer to play back movies, and did you pick vdpau as the renderer in preferences?21:59
notlisteningthe file i am trying is an avi file which is using Microsoft mp4 4.2 21:59
notlisteningI am using the built in movie player from XBMC running throught Boxee22:00
notlisteningand have picked Vdpau, i have almost the same machine but have enabled the ppa on one and not the other and was trying to track down the performace enhancement22:01
notlisteningI think i will tkae one step at a time and re do the install and see if i can pin point whats working and whats not22:02
notlisteningand i am using the blob directly from nvidia installed manually in run lvl 122:03
notlisteningWill report back in a bit22:04
Sarvattmp4 and avi are both container types not video formats though and using h264 in avi has some *horrible* limitations.. i wouldnt be surprised if it couldnt even accelerate the sample you're using22:06
notlisteningWell something is giving me 50% less cpu usage so i will try to find out what22:13
notlisteningon the edgers website it says the the current version in lucid is not usable in karmic?22:21
tormodnotlistening, yes you should not install lucid packages in karmic, that means22:27
Sarvattthink we should enable glsl for r600 in mesa tormod?22:32
tormodSarvatt, I did it once on request, didn't seem to break anything :)22:33
tormodit's not in git master for some reason though22:33
Sarvattodd r600_context.h - Copyright (C) The Weather Channel, Inc.  2002.  All Rights Reserved.22:34
tormodall the initial ati 3d work was done for a weather forecast system...22:34
tormodbut that was on r200 or r100, not r600 :)22:35
Sarvattyeah it says radeon 8500 after it22:36
Sarvattohhh was that what the 0ubuntu0glsl was a few weeks ago?22:36
tormodSarvatt, the glsl is a bit depending on what upstream wants in bug reports, whether they keep saying "please try with glsl" or "oh noes you have enabled glsl"22:37
Sarvatti thought someone else on the team actually uploaded something22:37
tormodit was the "glsl special edition" for phoronix junkies22:37
Sarvattsurprised they didnt just make that a driconf option22:38
tormodyes that, or a ENV thing would have been so much nicer22:38
Sarvatti've got fake a glsl support option in there on i91522:39
tormodSarvatt, since it's a radeon only thing, I can push glsl builds in the radeon ppa22:40
tormodSarvatt, once lucid has libdrm 2.4.16, I'll add glsl for radeon to my nightly script22:47
maxbSo... now X is de-HAL-ized, how does one pass config options to input drivers now/23:01
maxb* ?23:01
Sarvattwhich input driver?23:01
maxbsynaptics23:01
Sarvattsynclient? xinput?23:02
maxbI can't survive without my circular scrolling, now I'm used to it23:02
maxbAren't those both for run-time tweaks? How do I persist the settings?23:02
Sarvattudev rule?23:03
Sarvattgpointing-device-settings doesnt have an option for circular scrolling?23:03
Sarvatti thought it did for some reason23:03
Sarvattyeah gpointing-device-settings lets ya do it23:05
Sarvattin system - preferences - pointing device - scrolling23:06
maxbHmm... I don't have it installed. I'll try it once my current apt run finishes23:06
maxbthanks23:06
Sarvattcan probably just add ENV{x11_options.CircularScrolling}="1" to the synaptics udev rule though23:08
Sarvatti think it's going to take input options like that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ here soon?23:09
Sarvattwell probably not on xserver 1.723:09
jcristauthe x11_options in udev might not stay long..23:12
jcristaui'm kinda tempted to remove that23:12
maxbAny idea what the replacement will be?23:15
jcristauxorg.conf23:15
Sarvattabout Bug #438398.. that guy has a custom gcc symlink pointing to ccache, I have the same problem with my ccache symlinks not working right with DKMS too23:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 438398 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 "DKMS build fails, but package upgrade still successful" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43839823:36
Sarvattit runs as user nobody and tries to set up a new ccache folder for that user and fails completely yet dkms thinks it worked23:43

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