[00:00] <M25> I need an expert in karmic's new GDM to help me figure out why every couple times I do a log-out or user-switch, xsplash and gdm never start, the computer hangs, and not even alt+prntscr+k will do anything
[00:00] <phpwner> is ntfsprogs on the live cd?
[00:00] <EricTheHax> wtf why the hell am i in #ubuntu O_O
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest3001: to upgrade just ONE package: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> phpwner: try it: sudo apt-get instal ntfsprogs
[00:02] <CarlFK> how do I read the UUID from a drive?
[00:02] <Guest3001> @ActionParnship i dont want to upgrade a package
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest3001: then whats the deal?
[00:03] <fluffy> ActionParsnip: still hanging
[00:03] <kain_> i need help with Karmic installation, i keep getting errors
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest3001: you can use apt to pin a version of a package
[00:03] <CarlFK> I swapped out my /home drive, want to do the UUID= thing in fstab
[00:03] <Ecfc13> ActionParsnip: May you help me with the BASH command line error Im getting upon boot?
[00:04] <alazyworkaholic> DasEi: Ok, I guess that Linux is able to access & write to ntfs, but there's no safety if something happens that might cause filesystem corruption like a power outage. (correct?) I've been accessing ntfs for a while with windows simply shutdown without any trouble, & there's no catastrophe if windows dies. What I'd like is this: I click windows, & it'll mount rw; if it can't, it'll mount ro. If it's hibernated I get an
[00:04] <Guest3001> how, please?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest3001: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[00:04] <fluffy> ActionParsnip: i was here a while ago, and its still installing language packs
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest3001: websearching is the key young grasshopper
[00:04] <fluffy> lol
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> fluffy: reinstall ut when you can skip the stage, skip it
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> s/ut/but
[00:05] <fluffy> ut?
[00:05] <phpwner> how2use ntfsclone
[00:05] <apocalypt> CarlFK: blkid /dev/drive
[00:05] <fluffy> skip which stage
[00:05] <DasEi> alazyworkaholic: just don't hibernate to avoid problems, netfs-3g is fine, both write/read
[00:06] <CarlFK> apocalypt: thanks
[00:06] <DasEi> CarlFK: prefix with sudo
[00:06] <fluffy> ActionParsnip: what stage do i skip?
[00:06] <Guest3001> ActionParsnip: thank you
[00:06] <apocalypt> yeah i forgot sudo. CarlFK
[00:06] <Rieux> help!!
[00:07] <Rieux> im using ubuntu, taskbar is missing, how to get it back?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> fluffy: the language pack bit
[00:07] <M25> Rieux: do you have any taskbars, either on the top or bottom of the screen?
[00:07] <fluffy> ActionParsnip: you cant skip it, i think.
[00:07] <Rieux> M25, bottom one is missingg
[00:08] <M25> Rieux: right click on a blank part of the top one, and hit "add new panel"
[00:08] <badweather> Hey folks, I have recently set up Firestarter and was wondering if there was a way to use the settings it has applied to load on boot without needed to login and load the application.
[00:08] <fluffy> ActionParsnip: it just installs
[00:08] <DasEi> badweather: it does this by default once setup
[00:08] <Ecfc13> How do  repair a ubuntu partition with thel ive cd
[00:08] <M25> then right click on that hit "add items to panel" and add the window list/selector plugin, it's at the bottom of the list.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> fluffy: sure you can
[00:09] <Rieux> M25, thanks
[00:09] <fluffy> ActionParsnip: really? how? i didnt see an option
[00:09] <DasEi> Ecfc13: what is broken ?
[00:09] <badweather> DasEi: Even if I haven't logged in to the system?
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> fluffy: unlike a windows install, if you actually watch and read the screen you wil benefit
[00:09] <Ecfc13> I cant even boot
[00:09] <Ecfc13> When I power on, i get the grub command line error?
[00:09] <fluffy> ActionParsnip: i watched the whole thing
[00:09] <DasEi> badweather: it gets loaded when network gets up
[00:10] <M25> I need an expert in karmic's new GDM to help me figure out why every couple times I do a log-out or user-switch, xsplash and gdm never start, the computer hangs, and not even alt+prntscr+k will do anything
[00:10] <g1powermac> Hi All, I'm trying to install the new Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.4 beta and it has currently been sitting on "Installing Language Packs" for quite some time with no disk activity.  The fans on my netbook are at full blast, but the system does seem responsive as the mouse still moves and such.  Is this stalled or does it take a while at this point?
[00:10] <DasEi> Ecfc13: broken grub so, karmic ?
[00:10] <fluffy> ActionParsnip: until the part where it hung, then i left for 1/2 an hour, came back in same place
[00:10] <Ecfc13> Broken grub, i guess.. karmic?
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> fluffy: you can ski the step
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> skip*
[00:10] <badweather> DasEi: Ok, I will check. Because nothing seems to work once the application has been shutdown on my desktop
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> fluffy: just watch the screen
[00:11] <DasEi> !karmic | Ecfc13
[00:11] <Ecfc13> what do u want me to do with that?
[00:11] <fluffy> ActionParsnip: okay, i see a window taht says installing laguage packs, a bar at 95%, and then a little pane with "getting help with ubuntu"
[00:11] <DasEi> Ecfc13: which version of ubuntu do you use ?
[00:12] <Ecfc13> 9.04... but i updated to 9.10 and when I went to reboot
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> fluffy: no, before that happens you are given the option to skip the step
[00:12] <Ecfc13> that eror came up
[00:12] <fluffy> ah.
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> fluffy: now you are in te stage, you cant back out
[00:12] <fluffy> ActionParsnip: if i reinstall, itll make another partition, right?
[00:12] <DasEi> Ecfc13: i c , did you choose to install grub2 ?
[00:12] <kain_> after installing Karmic 9.10, i get "Gave up boot waiting for root device", can anyone help?
[00:12] <kennethm> Is there any way to change wubi into an actual install and get rid of Windows? The problem is this computer's cd drive doesn't work at ALL and unetbootin won't work because this laptop doesn't support booting from the USB, which unetbootin requires. I installed wubi but still have Winblowz. :(
[00:13] <youngman> DasEi, so I did it the other way around, leaving the failed disk in the array when adding in the new disk.    MD didn't start copying data onto the new one (which was added as a spare) until I explicitly marked the failing disk as failed.   Then the failed disk is ignored.
[00:14] <M25> kennethm: technically yes... but you'd need a livecd to do it, might as well reinstall
[00:14] <alazyworkaholic> DasEi: Thing is, windoze on that slow drive takes 10 minutes to become usable (crapware, antivirus, etc. etc. all the stuff that made me ditch it) whereas it takes 2 to resume from hibernation. I guess maybe I could take the fstab setup as is, then add another mountpoint like /media/WindozeRO/ then add a line in fstab like the one you gave me & change the mountpoint to /media/WindozeRO & change rw to ro; then tell her 
[00:14] <Ecfc13> it was already installed
[00:14] <youngman> DasEi, so unless the new replacement disk fails there is no difference between the two approaches (i.e. the unfailed disk from the original array is indeed a SPOF during reconstruction).
[00:14] <kennethm> M25, I have a livecd. When I insert it on any OS it will say it's a blank cd.
[00:14] <Ecfc13> so yeah.. i just went to updat maanger and clicked upgrade to 9.10
[00:14] <laeg> !flash
[00:15] <laeg> !multemedia
[00:15] <M25> kennethm: are you sure it's the drive and not the disk
[00:15] <laeg> !multimedia
[00:15] <kennethm> M25, Sure of it. I installed Ubuntu on my other computer a week ago.
[00:15] <DasEi> Ecfc13: I think, assume you're still running grub-legacy then, follow :
[00:15] <DasEi> !grub
[00:15] <M25> kennethm: can you replace the drive?
[00:16] <crimeboy> i want replace ubuntu logo on boot, anyones knows?
[00:16] <kennethm> M25, I'm not sure, but I don't have an extra cd drive. It's an old laptop Sony Vaio PCG-GRV670
[00:16] <Ecfc13> ok
[00:16] <apocalypt> crimeboy: change the bootscreen..there u will find any screens gnome-look.org
[00:17] <crimeboy> i just see xsplash source code but i dont find it
[00:17] <DasEi> Ecfc13: you can check from live by going into hd's fs and see idf there is a file : /etc/grub.d/00_header, which indicates a grub2 install
[00:17] <crimeboy> apocalypt: that thing is outside of theme
[00:18] <crimeboy> i think is inside of source as code
[00:18] <Ecfc13> DasEi: I Will, one sec..
[00:18] <apocalypt> crimeboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89916&highlight=grub+splash+screen try this
[00:19] <crimeboy> 2005!?
[00:19] <crimeboy> sorry man but xsplash is an app of 2009
[00:19] <Romania> Any leader in here please?
[00:20] <crimeboy> but thank you anyway
[00:20] <Pici> Romania: Can you rephrase that, or clarify what you're looking for? (and no, I'm not romanian, despite the nick)
[00:21] <Ecfc13> hd's fs?
[00:21] <ratbert> the program make start up disk its only for ubuntu??
[00:21] <ubuntu> hiya
[00:21] <Romania> I want an admin from Ubuntu to make e a cloak
[00:21] <Romania> If it's possible
[00:21] <charitwo> !member | Romania
[00:21] <apocalypt> crimeboy: just google for changing xsplash bootscreen
[00:21] <Deviant42069> 'ello, much better
[00:21] <Romania> Thanks charitwo
[00:22] <majuk> Hey guys, I need a way to transfer a package from my laptop to my desktop. Can someone direct me to a walkthrough? I need to install the package b43-fwcutter on my unnetworked desktop
[00:22] <crimeboy> apocalypt: :Z
[00:22] <Pici> Romania: Are you an Ubuntu Member? if so, ask me in #ubuntu-irc
[00:22] <charitwo> Romania: welcome :)
[00:22] <Deviant42069> So, hello everyone. I need help. Lol.
[00:22] <crimeboy> apocalypt: is a new thing, there is no in anyway yet
[00:22] <Deviant42069> I jusy installed ubuntu on to my external hard drive. I have no idea how to use GRUB. >.<
[00:22] <Deviant42069> *just.
[00:22] <kennethm> M25, so would I be able to delete windows and make wubi a real install?
[00:22] <Pici> !ask | Deviant42069
[00:23] <Deviant42069> Ahhhh. Okay. :] How do I use Grub? to boot to my windows installation, not to linux
[00:24] <kennethm> Deviant42069, this is an ubuntu channel :P
[00:24] <apocalypt> crimeboy: did u try this http://www.snoopyonskittles.com/2009/11/06/change-your-bootscreen-to-match-your-wallpaper/
[00:24] <Deviant42069> i installed ubuntu :0
[00:24] <loginfliggle> Will removing gdm from rc.d disable auto dhcp on startup?
[00:24] <kennethm> Deviant42069, shouldn't it have install grub too?
[00:24] <firefly2> !partition
[00:25] <crimeboy> apocalypt: let me see
[00:25] <Deviant42069> It -did- install grub. But i have no idea how to use grub D:
[00:25] <apocalypt> i guess some pieces of that could help u
[00:26] <erik__> \help
[00:26] <M25> kennethm: the way wubi works, is that it installs ubuntu as a file in windows.  you'd have to convert that file into a partition, install grub to boot to that partition, and then worry about swap and etc
[00:26] <kennethm> :(
[00:26] <M25> kennethm: in short, it's doable, I'm pretty sure, I just have no idea how
[00:26] <kennethm> I don't want windows though.
[00:26] <kain_> can anyone help me?
[00:26] <M25> kennethm: if you can do the above stuff, you can remove windows
[00:27] <erik__> has anyone noticed that deb http://us.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main universe
[00:27] <erik__> deb-src http://us.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main universe
[00:27] <erik__> deb http://us.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-updates main universe
[00:27] <crimeboy> apocalypt: not, this is background of theme, i just made my xsplash theme, but my problem come before of presentation of theme, is a single image of ubuntu logo and this simple thing dont stay inside of xsplash theme
[00:27] <M25> kennethm: OH! other solution
[00:27] <kennethm> !ask | kain_
[00:27] <winblows1970> hi, am wondering if someone can help me with my latest ubuntu mishap  lol
[00:28] <M25> kennethm: can you hook the hard drive from that computer up to another one, one that can run the livecd?
[00:28] <apocalypt> crimeboy: that thing is in grub i guess
[00:28] <erik__> Is anyone having problems connecting to us.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[00:28] <SpykeVicious> hello everyone! I'm trying to get v4l to work with an expresscard analog tuner, can anyone help me? I don' even have a /dev/video0 yet.
[00:28] <kennethm> M25, I
[00:28] <kennethm> oops
[00:28] <kennethm> >.<
[00:28] <jb0nd38372> Anyone recommend any good games I can install in ubuntu to show my friends that linux does have native games that are not from the 8bit computing era?
[00:29] <Gab_> HAI
[00:29] <CShadowRun> jb0nd38372: second life?
[00:29] <kennethm> M25, I'm not sure, not a hardware guy and this computer is way bigger than that one, this computer deserves desktop status :P
[00:29] <M25> jb0nd38372: warsow, sauerbraten, world of goo
[00:29] <kennethm> jb0nd38372, OOO! Alien arena
[00:29] <loginfliggle> erik__: down for me
[00:29] <Gab_> hai!
[00:29] <Deviant42069> Uhm. Is GRUB a required part of ubuntu?
[00:29] <Jeruvy> kennethm: actually wubi installs ubuntu ina virtual disk (hence file on windows) but handles the dual-booting just like a normal install would, so grub is done for you.
[00:29] <Gab_> iliektocpp!
[00:29] <M25> kennethm: can you take out the hard drive and check if it's sata or ide?  you can get adaptors for both, or plug them direct into a desktop tower
[00:29] <jb0nd38372> ty for the sugguestions..
[00:29] <laeg> i'm following a guide to get sound working on flash on 9.10 (other sound is fine) - but when i input a command i get "E: Package libflashsupport has no installation candidate
[00:29] <Gab_> =D
[00:30] <laeg> "
[00:30] <erik__> loginfliggle: any info on that?
[00:30] <kennethm> M25, I can check online for this model. The hard drive has never been replaced I believe.
[00:30] <loginfliggle> erik__: none. ping failed, lol.
[00:30] <kennethm> hold on.
[00:31] <kain_> Here is my problem, I'm trying to install Karmic 64 bit on my sata drive, on the install menu, i put nolapic and noapic and add pci=nomsi to be able to see my drive to partition, after installation and reboot, i get msg "Gave up waiting for root device. ....", can anyone help?
[00:31] <Deviant42069> Is there a way to access my windows files from the ubuntu OS?
[00:31] <erik__> loginfiggle: hah :) but also :(...
[00:31] <winblows1970> high i removed an authorization from ubuntu and i think it caused a prob
[00:32] <winblows1970> anyone help
[00:32] <Satzo> Deviant42069, ubuntu can read NTFS volumes
[00:32] <M25> Deviant42069: yep, you should be able to mount your windows partition like any other drive
[00:32] <laeg> i'm following a guide to get sound working on flash on 9.10 (other sound is fine) - but when i input a command i get "E: Package libflashsupport has no installation candidate"
[00:32] <M25> Deviant42069: you may want to add an fstab entry (google for how) so it is automatically mounted on boot
[00:32] <laeg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#Troubleshooting
[00:33] <loginfliggle> laeg: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[00:33] <Jeruvy> !find autofsck
[00:33] <winblows1970> hello can anyone help with authorizations in ubuntu??
[00:34] <Jeruvy> !find autofsck hardy
[00:34] <Deviant42069> I can't do much of anything, I'm using ubuntu's "try without installing" option. I get to the grub loader and have no idea how to load the ubuntu i installed, or my windows.
[00:34] <loginfliggle> laeg: make sure to enable universe (and multiverse?) repo
[00:35] <laeg> loginfliggle: ty
[00:35] <laeg> somebody should update the guide
[00:35] <M25> kennethm: if you take it out, you can tell, sata drives have an l-shaped connector with only a few contacts, ide has a bunch of holes for pins, or possibly a very long line-shaped connector with lots of contacts
[00:36] <kennethm> M25, the sony is IDE.
[00:37] <laeg> loginfliggle: i'll do it, getting my launchpad pass mailed to me
[00:37] <denise> hi i'm trying to add a printer to a currently updated 9.04 system...  the printer is on a SMB share on my windows xp box...  the Printer Configuration tool keeps crashing while browsing the shares...   is this a known issue
[00:37] <M25> kennethm: do you have a desktop around? almost all desktops can work with IDE drives, if you just take it out, plug it into the desktop, load the livecd on the desktop, then install to that disk (overwriting what's there) it should work like a normal ubuntu install, and you can wipe out windows
[00:37] <M25> kennethm: back up first, obviously
[00:37] <denise> ?  and does anyone have an easy work-around?
[00:38] <kennethm> M25, heh, well I do have my brother's desktop but he won't like that too much. :P
[00:38] <M25> denise: do you know the computer name of the XP desktop?  you can go to it directly without browsing using smb://DesktopNameHere/
[00:38] <KismetGFX> im gettin really frustrated reinstalled ubuntu almost 10 times now, install was success ejects disc tells me to reboot and i get non-system disk or disk error replace and strike any key when ready arg :(
[00:38] <M25> kennethm: that's your best option at this point, you need some way to install ubuntu on that disk, so you need a computer with a CD drive
[00:38] <edoroman1> hie
[00:38] <edoroman1> hi there
[00:39] <edoroman1> is anyone there?
[00:39] <edoroman1> i need a little bit of help with ubuntu
[00:39] <jrib> edoroman1: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[00:39] <loginfliggle> !ask | edoroman1
[00:39] <M25> KismetGFX: check your bios, it might be set to boot from a disk you don't want it to
[00:39] <kennethm> M25, both laptops are ide
[00:39] <denise> do i need to know the port and stuff too then?
[00:39] <M25> kennethm: then you can use the one with the working CD drive for the same purpose
[00:39] <M25> denise: nope
[00:39] <edoroman1> well i had installed ubuntu and windows in my pc
[00:39] <kennethm> M25, problem is I'm young and am too paranoid to remove my computer's hard drive. >.<
[00:40] <KismetGFX> M25: thanks will give that a shot, i do have 3 hard drives in there all partitioned out for the linux mounts
[00:40] <edoroman1> but the partion where i had windows won't boot
[00:40] <loginfliggle> kennethm: worst case scenario is something breaks. it's part of learning :)
[00:40] <sunrider> I must find a way to disable NETWORK MANAGER on start up!
[00:40] <M25> kennethm: I disassembled my first hard drive at 8.  It's not that bad, just make sure you touch the metal frame of the computer and don't rub your fingers across the circuit boards
[00:40] <kennethm> :D
[00:40] <edoroman1> so i wanna unistall grub to get acces to windows wihouth getting to grub
[00:40] <edoroman1> can i do that?
[00:40] <sunrider> edoroman1, no
[00:40] <edoroman1> mmm
[00:41] <sunrider> i woudlnt mess with grub
[00:41]  * kennethm wants to ask his dad. :\
[00:41] <winblows1970> yes and never ever pour water on your motherboard ...it doesn't like that
[00:41] <kennethm> heh
[00:41] <sunrider> well i just want to destroy this network manager that ruins everything
[00:41] <loginfliggle> sunrider: sudo update-rc.d -f network-manager remove
[00:41] <sunrider> loginfliggle, thanks!!! :)
[00:41] <M25> !grub | edoroman1
[00:41]  * sunrider hates sudo
[00:42] <loginfliggle> sunrider: np. to add it back if necessary: sudo update-rc.d -f network-manager defaults
[00:42] <M25> edoroman1: actually, a windows install disk should restore your mbr, if you tell it to repair the install.  then you can use EasyBCD to add a linux entry to your windows bootloader, which will let you dual-boot
[00:43] <sunrider> loginfliggle, :)
[00:43] <winblows1970> i have sound when ubuntu starts but music/video apps don't have sound
[00:43] <CarlFK> booted, got message "filesystem check failed."  and dropped to a # prompt.  any way to tell what fs failed?
[00:44] <velcroshooz> are there any disk utilities/verification programs to run on a brand new drive before partitioning and installing?
[00:45] <edoroman1> how can i edit grub in order to run windows from an usb hdd???
[00:45] <winblows1970> i have sound when ubuntu starts but music/video apps don't have sound
[00:45] <edoroman1> i have windows in the usb hdd
[00:45] <edoroman1> is there any way??
[00:46] <Deviant42069> edoroman1: I'm trying to find out the same thing lol
[00:46] <loginfliggle> CarlFK: should be in logs. less /var/log/dmesg
[00:46] <Satzo> edoroman1, run live ubuntu install, as root, run grub(with usb hd plugged in) and add mount point
[00:46] <CarlFK> velcroshooz: mkfs has a flag to check - guessing it just writes/reads each sector
[00:46] <Satzo> however......
[00:46] <Deviant42069> Satzo: How do i add a mount point?
[00:46] <Satzo> grub2 is different than grub
[00:46] <Satzo> Deviant42069, you'd best read up on grub before you do this
[00:47] <edoroman1> mmm how to i get the mount point?
[00:47] <nn64> Deviant42069, /etc/fstab
[00:47] <Deviant42069> I have no idea how grub works :[
[00:47] <loginfliggle> velcroshoz: man fsck
[00:47] <Satzo> Deviant42069, u running 9.10 right?
[00:47] <Deviant42069> I don't know how to load ubuntu or windows in grub. And yes, i am
[00:47] <Deviant42069> i'm on ubuntu's "try without installing" os right now
[00:48] <nn64> Deviant42069, grub is the boot loader
[00:48] <Satzo> Deviant42069, --->   http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[00:48] <Deviant42069> I know. I don't know how to use it >.<
[00:48] <Deviant42069> Thank you, i'll try that.
[00:49] <Satzo> Deviant42069, also:   http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[00:49] <laeg> !youtube
[00:49] <laeg> !flash
[00:49] <winblows1970> i have sound when ubuntu starts but music/video apps don't have sound
[00:49] <loginfliggle> Deviant42069: If grub failed you can also do what is called "mounting". mount the ubuntu fs, run sudo update-grub, then sudo grub-install /dev/sda(maybe sda, depends) --root-directory=/path/to/mounted/fs
[00:49] <edoroman1> how do i get the mount point of my usb hdd?
[00:50] <nn64> edoroman1, usually the usb drive is the last /dev/sd* devices
[00:50] <Deviant42069> What happens if i try to restore the default Master Boot Record (MBR)?
[00:51] <loginfliggle> Deviant42069: grub is what should be written to your mbr. restoring the windows mbr will prevent access to ubuntu
[00:51] <firefly2> I try again: my desktop lost its panels (taskbar) after a crash, when I try "applications-settings-panel" (right-mouse-click on desktop) nothing starts up (all ok as a different user) | is there a way to just reset the desktop to the default? (xubuntu xfce 9.04) thx
[00:51] <kennethm> Are there any drivers for the ati mobility radeon 9000? I've searched but drivers only work for later cards.
[00:51] <nn64> edoroman1, just type mount on the terminal and see if its already mounted
[00:51] <Deviant42069> Loginfliggle: I see, okay.
[00:51] <loginfliggle> kennethm: fglrx?
[00:51] <Satzo> Deviant42069, think of it this way.  grub can mount and boot just about anything.  windows msr tool only talks to windows
[00:52] <Satzo> msr=mbr
[00:52] <kennethm> loginfliggle, it supports 9500+
[00:52] <kennethm> not 9000
[00:53] <winblows1970> the purple butterflies ate my keyboard and now are wearing my shoes on there head
[00:53] <Satzo> kennethm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[00:53] <Deviant42069> All the command line entries are greek to me; I just need to learn what to type to load windows, and what to type to load ubuntu. lol.
[00:54] <winblows1970> doesn't F8 bring up seperate os or drives
[00:54] <loginfliggle> kennethm: have you seen http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ ? I thought it was already merged with x11 but i could be wrong
[00:55] <ratbert> how can i make a new partition ???
[00:55] <loginfliggle> ratbert: gparted
[00:55] <edoroman1> ok it's mounted
[00:55] <DasEi1> ratbert with gparted
[00:55] <Deviant42069> Okay, how would I go about doing this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622828
[00:55] <edoroman1> so what should i put in grub in order to boot windows from that hdd?
[00:56] <edoroman1> instead of (hd0,0)
[00:56] <majuk> If I do a fetch only of a package, where is that package stored?
[00:56] <kennethm> loginfliggle, it seems the open source drivers are supposed to work but on hardware drivers it says no closed source drivers are being used
[00:56] <edoroman1> what should i put?
[00:56] <ratbert> loginfliggle,  gnome partition editor ???
[00:56] <unop> majuk, depends on what you use to do this
[00:56]  * nel Is having problems setting up a desktop with a nvidia card. EnvyNG install is resulting with a kernel version that is different from the driver version. How can I purge the old drivers off my system?
[00:56] <majuk> unop! apt-get -d install $PCKAGE
[00:57] <losha> majuk: if you use apt, it's usually in /var/cache/apt/archive
[00:57] <unop> majuk, should be in $PWD then
[00:57] <loginfliggle> kennethm: not too sure man. :/
[00:57] <kennethm> jhm
[00:57] <kennethm> hm
[00:57] <loginfliggle> ratbert: sudo apt-get install gparted
[00:57] <majuk> losha! Thanks
[00:58] <loginfliggle> nel: man modprobe
[00:59] <Satzo> how do i start cups from the shell?  printer troubleshooter says cups isnt started
[00:59] <dragon> Satzo: sudo service cups start
[00:59] <ArCHoNKoG> Hey, anyone know what happen with ubuntuguide.org. got my friend to switch to us but he has no guide.
[00:59] <loginfliggle> nel: or recompile the kernel (from /usr/src)
[01:00] <Satzo> dragon, thanks that worked.  how can i check that it will always start on bootup?
[01:00] <nel> loginfliggle: thx I'll have a peek at that
[01:00] <dragon> I lost the resolution 1280x800 for an external monitor on my laptop after upgrading to Karmic. What do I do?
[01:00] <jrib> ArCHoNKoG: ubuntuguide.org was never a good resource, use help.ubuntu.com
[01:01] <winblows1970> hi
[01:01] <dragon> Satzo: there's some settings for that, but I'm not quite sure about it.
[01:01] <loginfliggle> Satzo: if that fails for some odd reason you can also sudo: sudo /etc/init.d/cups start
[01:01] <Satzo> ok
[01:01] <loginfliggle> Satzo: sudo update-rc.d -f cups defaults
[01:01] <mikeyfbi> help!  i uninstalled my video drivers so i only have X
[01:01] <mikeyfbi> i tried to reinstall it and got some error :(  I'm on my dual boot now :(
[01:01] <Satzo> loginfliggle, issuing that cmd will ensure cups starts on reboot?
[01:02] <nineclock> hiz
[01:02] <edoroman1> can anyone please help me to edit my grub so that i can boot windows xp from an usb hd?
[01:02] <mikeyfbi> anyone have easy to follow instructions to install a video card just in the terminal?
[01:02] <loginfliggle> Satzo: it should, yes
[01:02] <jeeves_Moss> has anyone here got teathering to their cell phone to work yet?  I'm trying to get it to work through the USB cable
[01:02] <majuk> How can I retrieve a package file for a different architecture than the system I am currently on?
[01:02] <nineclock> having some problem with pptn connection and karmic ubuntu some one can give me an hand ?
[01:02] <majuk> (on i386, installing on 64bit)
[01:02] <Deviant42069> Okay, what do I need to do to restore the windows MBR?
[01:03] <jrib> majuk: dget?o
[01:03] <Deviant42069> I know that it will keep me from accessing ubuntu.
[01:03] <nineclock> having some problem with pptP* connection and karmic ubuntu some one can give me an hand ?
[01:03] <nineclock> sorr
[01:03] <mikeyfbi> i tried to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 to install the 2.4 driver but gave me some errors
[01:03] <jrib> majuk: /why/ do you want to do this exactly?
[01:03] <loginfliggle> majuk: not too sure what you mean? like a different package manager? not sure if thats possible. easier to switch distros
[01:03] <dragon> !repeat | nineclock
[01:03] <mikeyfbi> how can i reinstall a video driver?
[01:03] <^workman^> Deviant: reinstall windows?
[01:03] <nineclock> repeat for error *
[01:03] <nineclock> read well
[01:03] <loginfliggle> Deviant42069: put it your windows install disk, get to a command prompt, type fixmbr
[01:03] <dragon> mikeyfbi: which video driver? what's wrong with it?
[01:03] <Gnarwal> majuk, all else fails, compile from source
[01:04] <simorghen> nineclock: what seems to be the officer, problem?
[01:04] <majuk> loginfliggle! I'm on my 32 bit laptop and I need to download a 64 bit package for my desktop
[01:04] <Deviant42069> I don't have a windws install disk. xP
[01:04] <peng8> hello support. I just installed ubuntu, and I mounted ntfs drive during installation. afterwards i found typo in the folder name to which I mounted that drive. To repair the typo, i tried using program from the repository, named "mountmanager" i think... tada, now i don't have access to that drive. I can access it from gksudo nautilus, that way it works. but i want to get it all back to normal, and i have no idea how to. PLease help.
[01:04] <jrib> majuk: why do you think you need to do that?
[01:04] <mikeyfbi> dragon, i removed it :(
[01:04] <Satzo> loginfliggle, update-rc.d: warning: cups stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1)
[01:04] <mikeyfbi> dragon, i just need any working video card now
[01:04] <Satzo>  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/cups already exist. <-- is that something to worry over?
[01:04] <mikeyfbi> dragon, er video driver
[01:04] <majuk> jrib! ...because my desktop is 64 bit?
[01:04] <nineclock> simorghen after created the pptp connection and trying to connect it not works
[01:04] <nineclock> nothing appears
[01:04] <mikeyfbi> dragon, but tried to instal the one i removed (intel 2.4) and it gave me some error
[01:04] <Deviant42069> *windows. I need to restore it from ubuntu.
[01:04] <jrib> majuk: did you install i386?
[01:05] <^workman^> majuk: a 64bit app won't compile or run without all of the required dependacys for that package, and in 64bit version.
[01:05] <majuk> jrib! Not on the desktop
[01:05] <simorghen> nineclock: meaning y ou cannot access websites on the internet via the pptp connection? but i bet you can access internal to the LAN computers
[01:05] <jrib> majuk: I see.  Does the desktop not have internet then?
[01:05] <Fizix> nineclock, what are you trying to do?
[01:05] <majuk> ^workman^! I understand, which is why I only want to download it so I can transfer it to install on my desktop which doesn't have a network connection
[01:05] <winblows1970> will someone with infinite ubuntu knowledge please im me please....
[01:05] <majuk> jrib! Yea
[01:05] <Jascase901> i am going to build a new pc an a 1300 dollar budget. What is a good graphics card that would fit into a computer of that price range, and have good support on both linux and windows
[01:05] <jrib> majuk: use packages.ubuntu.com or:
[01:05] <unop> majuk, why don't you get your 64bit machine to generate the URLs ?  see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OfflinePackageDownload
[01:05] <jrib> !offline | majuk
[01:05] <^workman^> majuk: oh ok... that's much clearer now...
[01:05] <Satzo> !ask | winblows1970
[01:05] <nineclock> simorghen pptyn connection on windows works, on the same data on linux not
[01:06] <rr72> hey guys, when I try to install bind9 it b0rks out and won't install fully
[01:06] <majuk> There we go. Thanks guys ^workman^ jrib  :)
[01:06] <peng8> guys, anyone help with mounting?
[01:06] <dragon> mikeyfbi: how did you remove it?
[01:06] <Satzo> Jascase901, you can't beat nvidia for that
[01:06] <^workman^> majuk: np
[01:06] <dragon> !anyone | peng8
[01:06] <nineclock> simorghen reading on google seems to be an bug of karmic release
[01:06] <^workman^> majuk: jrib: is the man!
[01:06] <rr72> it has to do with a problem that it won't intialize
[01:06] <loginfliggle> peng8: man mount
[01:06] <winblows1970> ti have been asking but its not a simple question to post one sentence and thats it
[01:06] <Satzo> winblows1970, use pastebin then
[01:06] <Satzo> see topic
[01:06] <Gnarwal> !mount | peng8
[01:06] <mac9416> majuk, you can modify a Keryx project to do that.
[01:06] <Jascase901> Satzo that is what I thought,  but google searches keep telling me ati is the way to go
[01:07] <mikeyfbi> dragon, synaptic
[01:07] <mikeyfbi> dragon, now all i have is terminal (X)
[01:07] <dragon> mikeyfbi: do you remember what package?
[01:07] <^workman^> Jascase901: dont' listen to google search... =)
[01:07] <Satzo> Jascase901, i disagree..   read this for info:   http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzc3NQ
[01:07] <Jascase901> kk thanks
[01:07] <dragon> peng8: please pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab file
[01:07] <mikeyfbi> dragon, yes, and i tried to install it again, but gave me some error :(  (i can't remember it, and im on windwos dual boot now)
[01:07] <nel> Ok, so used the Hardware Drivers to install the NVidia after completelly uninstalling the EnvyNG attempt, pc boots to black screen, ctrl alt f7 gets me into x and glxinfo | grep rendering returns Error: API mismatch: the nvidia kernel module has version 173.14.20 but the nvidia driver component has version 173.14.22.
[01:07] <^workman^> Nvidia ftw.. =) imho
[01:07] <mikeyfbi> dragon, xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4
[01:08] <CarlFK> why would "mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3" say "mount: stale NFS handle" ad not mount?
[01:08] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[01:08] <peng8> dragon, pastebin=paste?
[01:08] <^workman^> CarlFK: is /mnt/sda3 mounted to something else? or was it ever?
[01:08] <peng8> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:08] <peng8> #
[01:08] <peng8> #  -- This file has been automaticly generated by ntfs-config --
[01:08] <FloodBot3> peng8: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:08] <peng8> #
[01:08] <mattwj2002> anyone know of a good cross platform screensaver for weather forcasting?
[01:08] <dragon> mikeyfbi: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
[01:08] <peng8> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[01:08] <Gnarwal> Jascase901, Nvidia is the most popular but the drivers that work well with it are proprietary. Ati does provide open drivers
[01:09] <dragon> !pastebin | peng8
[01:09] <mikeyfbi> dragon, k i'll try that
[01:09] <loginfliggle> peng8: hence: pastebin..:/
[01:09] <CarlFK> ^workman^: booted live cd - never mounted (this boot session)
[01:09] <^workman^> CarlFK: did you choose an install method other than the default?
[01:10] <mattwj2002> !weather
[01:10] <peng8> sorry
[01:10] <peng8> http://paste.ubuntu.com/336942/
[01:10] <^workman^> CarlFK: I've never seen that or heard of that error before sorry.
[01:10] <peng8> !weather
[01:10] <^workman^> CarlFK: not from the live cd install
[01:10] <kishore> Hello how can i covert .raw files to .wav files?
[01:10] <^workman^> !convert
[01:10] <Jascase901> Yeah ,aight I guess nvidia is back in the race for me I am gonna retreat to google and compare products
[01:11] <Jascase901> prices*
[01:11] <^workman^> !video
[01:11] <CarlFK> ^workman^: i swapped out the drive that /home gets mounted on,  forgot to update the UUID in fstab, and things have been bumpy trying to get it all wroked out
[01:11] <todor> hey can i get some help with kernel compilation
[01:11] <Satzo> kishore, check out audacitu
[01:11] <Satzo> kishore, check out audacity
[01:11] <todor> grub says invalid magic number or smth
[01:11] <kishore> Satzo:thanks
[01:11] <CarlFK> Jascase901: check out nouveau - it works for me
[01:11] <winblows1970> whats pastebin
[01:11] <kishore> Sazto: Can u pls let me know the command to install it
[01:12] <dragon> !pm | peng8
[01:12] <Satzo> !pastebin | winblows1970
[01:12] <^workman^> CarlFK: fstab on the local disk shouldn't be read while using a live cd. So, when booting the live cd, what are you trying to do? update the HD's /etc/fstab?
[01:12] <Satzo> kishore, its in your package manager
[01:12] <peng8> http://paste.ubuntu.com/336942/        I just installed ubuntu, and I mounted ntfs drive during installation. afterwards i found typo in the folder name to which I mounted that drive. To repair the typo, i tried using program from the repository, named "mountmanager" i think... tada, now i don't have access to that drive. I can access it from gksudo nautilus, that way it works. but i want to get it all back to normal, and i have no idea how to.
[01:12] <peng8> PLease help.
[01:12] <dragon> peng8: what's the exact name of the directory you're trying to mount the filesystem on?
[01:12] <dragon> enough.
[01:13] <Satzo> brb....
[01:13] <dragon> !patience > peng8
[01:13] <winblows1970> i have sound when ubuntu opens(ubuntu theme) but with apps/music/video i get no sound
[01:13] <peng8> dragon, sorry. i'm trying to mount the ntfs drive in to /Doors
[01:13] <loginfliggle> peng8: try this: sudo mount -o rw,force /dev/sda1 /path/to/where/to/mount       does that work?
[01:14] <todor> how do i fix my kernel?
[01:14] <Jascase901> will do CarlFK
[01:14] <peng8> loginfliggle i'll try now
[01:14] <loginfliggle> peng8: make sure /Doors exists
[01:14] <kishore> Satz0:Thanks a lot
[01:14] <CarlFK> ^workman^: I am trying to copy the old drive to the new drive.  I had ext4 in fstab, but only did mkfs -J (ext3) which i guess confused  fsck
[01:14] <kennethm> I love this system! Alien arena runs fine but I have one problem: my desktop is black. Mobility Radeon 9000 ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[01:14] <winblows1970> had sound previously but i might have done something to make this happen
[01:15] <dragon> peng8: sudo umount /DOors; sudo sed -i 's/DOors/Doors/' /etc/fstab; sudo mv /DOors /Doors; sudo mount -a
[01:15] <^workman^> CarlFK: so from the live cd at a shell, the drive in question... run fdisk -l. what is the format of the drive you are trying to copy?
[01:16] <dragon> peng8: copy-paste this whole command in a terminal, and you should be good to go.
[01:16] <winblows1970> i have sound when ubuntu opens(ubuntu theme) but with apps/music/video i get no sound, had sound previously but i might have done something in authorizations to make this happen.
[01:17] <CarlFK> ^workman^: im mkfs it again, then cp the 13g of files - should only take a few min, so lets see if I do it righ this time
[01:17] <kishore> Sazto:Sorry to bother again,i installed audacity.. but in terminal what command do i use to convert the file
[01:17] <^workman^> CarlFK: when I convert ext3 to ext4 I use the following: tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index /dev/sdb1, fsck -pf /dev/sdb1. just fyi
[01:17] <winblows1970> anyone?   banging head on keyboard
[01:17] <CarlFK> ^workman^: I was more wondering why the NFS message... weird
[01:17] <Satzo> kishore, i wouldnt bother with terminal. open the app and import the .raw there
[01:17] <^workman^> CarlFK: yea, not sure about that one
[01:17] <kennethm> winblows1970, have you searched it up with the distribution version?
[01:17] <Satzo> winblows1970, not to sound smartass but check to see if it is muted. i wasted 2h the other day over that.
[01:18] <Satzo> the intro sound worked, then nada.. it was muted!
[01:18] <loginfliggle> winblows1970: make sure you are still in the sound group
[01:18] <winblows1970> its in more then one app
[01:18] <^workman^> CarlFK: sorry man, I have to go now. I'm sure someone here will be able to help
[01:18] <xim_> karmic problem, relating to window management:  3rd time happening now:  i cannot change which window is in focus with the mouse or alt-tab, minimal mouse usage in xchat, cant click menubars or channel links, can move the mouse and highlight text....what gives?
[01:18] <peng8> umask=007 what does this mean?
[01:18] <CarlFK> ^workman^: no prob - i think I am fine
[01:18] <peng8> dragon, nothing happened really.
[01:18] <nel> Ok, so used the Hardware Drivers to install the NVidia after completelly uninstalling the EnvyNG attempt, pc boots to black screen, ctrl alt f7 gets me into x and glxinfo | grep rendering returns Error: API mismatch: the nvidia kernel module has version 173.14.20 but the nvidia driver component has version 173.14.22.    I'm  fairly new to Ubuntu and not too confident on how to go about using modprobe to try fix this... checked out the man modprobe but unsure if
[01:18] <nel>  the module I am looking for is simply called nvidia .... any help would be appreciated
[01:18] <CarlFK> just need to do it right this time :)
[01:19] <winblows1970> still in soundgroup?
[01:19] <ring0> which ftp-server is the standard under ubuntu?
[01:19] <kennethm> Why is my desktop black on my computer with an ati mobility radeon 9000?
[01:19] <CarlFK> kennethm: whos driver?
[01:19] <Satzo> ring0, ftp in shell
[01:19] <winblows1970> login ok to im you?
[01:20] <Satzo> sorry.. n/m
[01:20] <kennethm> CarlFK, open source drivers.
[01:20] <CarlFK> kennethm: but you have icons and everything else is ok?
[01:20] <mikeyfbi> dragon, still here?
[01:20] <artemis_> !rlue
[01:20] <edgar> Hi
[01:20] <mikeyfbi> dragon, gave me 2 errors ... something like cannot connect to /var/cache and /var/libsomething
[01:20] <artemis_> !rule
[01:20] <kennethm> CarlFK, the whole desktop is black, no icons, but everything else seems to work fine.
[01:21] <mikeyfbi> hey, i uninstalled my video cards by accident, so i only have X now :(  everytime i try to apt-get install again it gives me some /var/cache and /var/libsomething error
[01:21] <edgar> Hello peaples h r u?
[01:21] <kennethm> !ask | edgar
[01:21] <CShadowRun> !english | edgar
[01:21] <peng8> I messed up the mounting of the ntfs partition. is there no easy way to get it back now?
[01:22] <kennethm> Oh, thought he was asking to ask something. >.<
[01:22] <loginfliggle> cshadowrun, lol
[01:22] <winblows1970> harsh  lol
[01:22] <Zemmy> does anyone have any programs that will allow me to recover lost files on a network storage box?
[01:23] <winblows1970> loginfliggle what do you mean  make sure your still in sound group
[01:23] <daevski> Does anyone know _if_ I can make a button or hotkey that will collapse windows to just the titlebar in gnome?
[01:24] <dragon> mikeyfbi: I won't be able to help without the exact error messages.
[01:24] <dragon> mikeyfbi: did you write sudo?
[01:24] <dragon> !nothing | peng8
[01:24] <CarlFK> kennethm: werid.  big help eh?
[01:24] <mikeyfbi> dragon, yes, i'll have to do it again
[01:24] <loginfliggle> winblows1970: make sure you still have permissions for the sound group. http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Managing_Ubuntu_Linux_Users_and_Groups
[01:24] <mikeyfbi> dragon, i did sudo but didn't even ask for the PW
[01:24] <no3> hola
[01:24] <no3> me llamo noe
[01:25] <dragon> mikeyfbi: it's possible that you might not be connected to the internet when you did that.
[01:25] <winblows1970> ahh thanks will check, but why wouldi all  of a sudden not have permission in sound group?
[01:25] <dragon> !es > no3
[01:25] <mikeyfbi> dragon, i have it plugged in, but do i have to do something separate for X?
[01:25] <no3> simon
[01:25] <kennethm> CarlFK, Here's a screenshot. http://i48.tinypic.com/5aqaeo.png
[01:26] <dragon> mikeyfbi: nothing separate. You can connect to IRC using irssi from the command line, btw. It's easier than dual-booting.
[01:26] <esc_> when I type Ctrl-C in an xterm, it works, but I also see ^C in the terminal. didn't do that in 9.04, but now it does in 9.10. same config. any ideas?
[01:26] <dragon> no3: que quieres?
[01:26] <mikeyfbi> dragon, oh?  i'll try that
[01:26] <kennethm> esc_, right click, copy.
[01:26] <lzrdking> how come jaunty drops my bluetooth connections, and i either need to completely remove the device and re-add it, or sometimes i even need to reboot?  how can i keep my devices connected, or at least make it so they can reconnect consistently?
[01:26] <kennethm> Ctrl+c won't work, neither Ctrl+v esc_
[01:27] <esc_> kennethm: actually, I'm wanting to send SIGINT to abort the process, but I'd rather it not display ^C. I'm using xterm, not gnome-terminal.
[01:27] <kennethm> ah
[01:27] <kennethm> esc_, don't know then.\
[01:28] <esc_> kennethm: thanks anyway, i'll keep fooling around with it.
[01:28] <kennethm> No problem. :)
[01:28] <binky1> Ugh Ive ben trying to install 2day but its still not working I have download 9.10 like 5 times and tried to install like lots of times it freezes when I hit install ubuntu or any other of the options
[01:28] <peng8> dragon, situation is such that the folder "/DOors" still is in the nautilus,  and trying to access it, it says i don't have the permission. nautilus with GKSUDO sees the folder as "Doors" and let's me use the partition. I would like to be able to use it without gksudo. what should i do for that?
[01:28] <Ben64> binky1: have you tried alternate cd
[01:28] <binky1> yes i have
[01:29] <Ben64> binky1: have you tested your hardware? Bad ram could totally cause that.
[01:29] <kain_> how do i install Karmic using different Kernel?
[01:29] <binky1> Ive alrdy tried different ram
[01:29] <kain_> 64 bit
[01:29] <loginfliggle> peng8: you need to edit /etc/fstab. change the folder to /Doors and where it says defaults change to rw,defaults
[01:30] <peng8> dragon, normal nautilus, i found a refresh button. it now sees itas "Doors", but "no permission".
[01:30] <loginfliggle> peng8: then reboot
[01:30] <emanux> i can't browse my sony ericcson phone in file transfer mode
[01:30] <velcroshooz> binky1: checked md5sum of the installation disc?
[01:30] <emanux> it not even mounted
[01:30] <emanux> what could go wrong?
[01:30] <binky1> wats that mean? =O
[01:30] <emanux> tnx.
[01:30] <esc_> kain_: 64-bit install is done with a different iso; i assume you must have the 32-bit one?
[01:30] <lzrdking> how come jaunty drops my bluetooth connections, and i either need to completely remove the device and re-add it, or sometimes i even need to reboot?  how can i keep my devices connected, or at least make it so they can reconnect consistently?
[01:30] <J13R> is anyone using multitalk and can tell me how I can set a latex formula in there?
[01:31] <kain_> esc_ : i was hoping to use 64 bit
[01:32] <kain_> esc_ : i boot on live cd and i get a msg box show Kernel Problem
[01:32] <velcroshooz> binky1: should be the last option on the install disc, it verifies that the iso you downloaded and the version that is now burnt are one in the same. basically makes sure the burn is correct.
[01:32] <glphvgacs> hi, `ssh 127.0.0.1 'echo $PATH'` gives a diff path that `echo $PATH`, can someone please help out to fix it?
[01:32] <glphvgacs> i've experimented with ~/.bashrc ~/.ssh/rc and so on with no luck
[01:32] <zanberdo> I have a box with both a VGA and DVI output. when the system boots, it defaults to initializing the VGA port and when there is no device attached. I need it to initialize to the DVI port. How can I force Ubuntu to init the DVI port on boot?
[01:33] <peng8> loginfliggle, please take a look, and give me a hint on where i need to write defaults or what else:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/336954/
[01:33] <binky1> arg okay thnx
[01:33] <binky1> I most likely will be bak
[01:34] <timClicks> what are the the best dd operands to duplicatie a usb
[01:34] <platius> binky1; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[01:34] <winblows1970> loginfiggle thanks very much.
[01:34] <loginfliggle> peng8: give this a shot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/336955/
[01:36] <Satzo> timClicks, usb what?
[01:36] <peng8> loginfliggle, just one more stupid q-n before I reboot with that: is it safe to make that change? (just scared to lose that partition)
[01:37] <peng8> loginfliggle, i guess it is safe... since it's just about mounting...
[01:37] <loginfliggle> peng8: sure is. worst case scenario is it doesn't mount it. mounting won't remove files
[01:37] <tiger_> can someone tell me that why I want to download software in  Ubuntu software center.
[01:37] <tiger_> this seed is so slow and even cannot download anythin
[01:37] <peng8> loginfliggle: why do we get rid of "UUID=06E901E6FCFCF3E6"?
[01:38] <Satzo> tiger_, you dont need to use software center if you already use synaptic
[01:38] <dragon> I see only a part of my screen on the monitor. I was able to work around in Jaunty by changing resolution couple of times, but in karmic selecting 1280x800 shows only about 1280x720 something. Ideas?
[01:38] <voidmage> so my compiz crashed and i relaunched it with compiz --replace, then gnome-panel crashed and relaunched. Now both the top and bottom panels are empty and don't respond to mouse clicks, is this something i have to reboot to fix?
[01:38] <loginfliggle> peng8: it doesn't make a difference. i prefer /dev syntax because it is much easier to see if you messed something up later on down the road
[01:38] <jimbro> Does anybody know anything about LinusXP?
[01:39] <xim_> karmic problem, relating to window management:  3rd time happening now:  i cannot change which window is in focus with the mouse or alt-tab, minimal mouse usage in xchat, cant click menubars or channel links, can move the mouse and highlight text....what gives?
[01:39] <loginfliggle> voidimage: i would reboot
[01:39] <dragon> loginfliggle: there's a reason UUID is used.
[01:40] <binky1> is a infrarecorder a good program to burn iso?
[01:40] <peng8> dragon, please tell me what it is.
[01:40] <dragon> !uuid
[01:40] <dragon> peng8: there
[01:40] <jphillips86_> How do I add a boot argument to my grub2 config?
[01:41] <loginfliggle> dragon: sure, the order can always change... its personal preference i suppose
[01:42] <loginfliggle> jphillips86_: you can manually add it during boot by pressing e then messing with it, or you can edit grub.cfg but your changes will dissapear eventually. if it's important you should make a custom entry in 40_custom found in /etc/grub.d
[01:42] <george1> hi, I need help installing ubuntu and I need to be sure I do it right so I don't wipe my Windows partition
[01:42] <dragon> loginfliggle, peng8: UUID would ensure that the same drive will be mounted at /Door or even / every time.
[01:42] <geirha> xim_: I've had some similar problem due to a faulty keyboard, some ctrl/alt/shift key got "stuck" (even though they were all in upright position). Tapping them all would unstick the key and thinks would be normal again for a while. Never figured out which key it was, I just replaced the keyboard.
[01:43] <peng8> gonna reboot now...
[01:43] <ShazbotMcNasty> george1, the partition editor on the live disk walks you through pretty well.
[01:43] <dragon> peng8: your issue was only a matter of fixing /etc/fstab, creating /Door or whatever directory you want, and remounting the drive.
[01:43] <ShazbotMcNasty> just make sure you don't click 'entire disk
[01:43] <ShazbotMcNasty> '
[01:43] <Satzo> jphillips86_, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[01:43] <dragon> and any idea why peng8 rebooted? mount -a?
[01:43] <jphillips86_> loginfliggle, Satzo Yeah! Thanks!!
[01:43] <binky1> is infrarecorder a good tool to use?
[01:43] <dragon> any way, over and out.
[01:44] <Satzo> jphillips86_, ive been looking for that for ages and now that ive found it i tell everyone :)
[01:44] <emanux> cannot detect bluetooth device in dell latitude d520?
[01:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> george1, the first option it gives you when you're trying to install should be the one that will automatically repartition your drive to dual boot
[01:44] <george1> shazbotMcNasty: I do a manual partition and it says I don't have /root defined, can you PM me?
[01:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> george1, why manually partition?
[01:45] <loginfliggle> dragon: because it would probably be quicker to reboot if you don't know mount syntax
[01:46] <george1> because the auto one that you speak of will create 3 partitions. I already have my HD with Win XP installed, and made a 80GB partition with the ext3 file system on there. But this will split that 80gb ext3 partition in 2 parts.
[01:46] <emanux> cannot detect bluetooth device in dell latitude d520?
[01:46] <danny_> Hey, i'm having a little trouble with broadcom wireless drivers for HP pavillion tx 1000, using ubuntu 9.10 - i've tried using b43-fwcutter and ndiswrapper, ndiswrapper saying the wireless card is not present.
[01:46] <danny_> Hey, i'm having a little trouble with broadcom wireless drivers for HP pavillion tx 1000, using ubuntu 9.10 - i've tried using b43-fwcutter and ndiswrapper, ndiswrapper saying the wireless card is not present./
[01:46] <Wicked> !et
[01:46] <danny_> oops
[01:46] <FloodBot4> danny_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:47] <danny_> Any advice that you guys could give me would be great.
[01:47] <kain_> how do i install Karmic using different kernel in 64 bit?
[01:48] <peng8> loginfliggle, thanks, that change seems to have worked for now. Can you tell me why did i have "/Doors ntfs-3g umask=007 0 0" and what does it mean?
[01:48] <danny_> Oh, also i'm using 64bit.
[01:49] <binky1> what program should i use to burn the disk?
[01:49] <iMatter> Since Hardy -> Jaunty i have  been having issues with usb devices that work fine in Windows/....i get "Unable to enumerate device" i've search many threads but none seem to give me an answer, i've tried varying devices such as USB phone chargers, Belking Wi-Fi cards, Sprint Mobile Data Cards etc, all the same story in all of the ports
[01:49] <iMatter> before in Gusty everything was peachy...but that was a year or so ago
[01:49] <lzrdking> how come jaunty drops my bluetooth connections, and i either need to completely remove the device and re-add it, or sometimes i even need to reboot?  how can i keep my devices connected, or at least make it so they can reconnect consistently?
[01:50] <armence> Hey all, I am looking at a whole bunch of c++ code right now and trying to understand what it does and i wanted to know if there is a tool such as a wiki I can easily setup to take notes and then easily navigate later...
[01:50] <loginfliggle> peng8: /Doors is the "mount point", ntfs-3g is the type of filesystem, umask=007 defines who has read,write,exectute permissions, dump and pass define backup frequency and pass defines how often to run fsck
[01:51] <binky1> what program should I use to burn the iso maybe the program im using isnt a very good one
[01:51] <Marxisme> hi everybody
[01:51] <ConstantineXVI> Are there any decent DLNA/UPnPAV clients in the repos?
[01:51] <peng8> loginfliggle, so... why did i have umask 007 instead of default?
[01:51] <peng8> loginfliggle, i also would like to know, in the "/" i have a "root" folder. accessible only for root. I'm NOT sure if I made it in some process, or it is supposed to be there. Is it, or can i delete it?
[01:51] <lzrdking> can anyone help me with my flaky bluetooth with jaunty?
[01:52] <trendsetter37> ubuntu does not recognize my ethernet card or doesnt use it rather
[01:53] <unop> peng8, it's a vital system directory - you mustn't delete it
[01:53] <trendsetter37> and i've done a lot of trouble shooting???
[01:53] <loginfliggle> peng8: 007 was restricting user/group access (you) and only giving sudo access. root is a needed folder for the root user"
[01:53] <Marxisme> I have a problem i start the gnome desktop, I have the following message input not supported, can someone help me?
[01:53] <Satzo> armenb, wikimedia
[01:53] <Marxisme> on Ubuntu 9.10
[01:54] <Marxisme> I am French I speak English well, and ubuntu-they are not the answer
[01:54] <Marxisme> ubuntu-fr
[01:55] <Deviant42069> Okay, I need to figure out how to restore window's MRB? i think it is, the first part of the drive. And I need to do it in ubuntu, i don't have an XP disc
[01:55] <geirha> peng8: It's the root user's homedir
[01:55] <loginfliggle> trendsetter37: sudo ifconfig eth0 up  ? or is it not even recognized as a device
[01:55] <Satzo> lzrdking, this is a karmic chan, try #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[01:55] <peng8> loginfliggle, unop, geirha thanks, thank you, i won't delete it. So, would it be the the 'mountmanager' that set it to 007? cause the only problem before was that "doorss" had "ss" at the very beginning.
[01:55] <lzrdking> when did it become karmic only?
[01:55] <lzrdking> people ask about hardy in here!
[01:55] <Satzo> ok sorry, i recall an admin saying it was karmic only :/
[01:56] <naptastic> hardy? Is that what they're calling it now? ;-)
[01:56] <naptastic> Karmic is the latest (9.10) right?
[01:56] <loginfliggle> peng8: changing it from 007 to rw,defaults was only so that you didn't have to have sudo access every time you wanted to read or change a file on the partition
[01:56] <geirha> Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty and Karmic are supported here.
[01:56] <ShazbotMcNasty> naptastic, yes
[01:56] <Tiders> Hey guys Im using a RAID configuration in Ubuntu and my comptuer froze up earlier... This is the log file that has the errors in it.  Anyone able to help?  http://pastebin.com/f490f8e31
[01:57] <trendsetter37> loginfliggle: it says device not found
[01:57] <Marxisme> When I start live cd I have the following message input not supported can anyone help me? please on ubuntu 9.10
[01:57] <trendsetter37> loginfliggle: but if I lspci i see that it is
[01:57] <lzrdking> how come jaunty drops my bluetooth connections, and i either need to completely remove the device and re-add it, or sometimes i even need to reboot?  how can i keep my devices connected, or at least make it so they can reconnect consistently?
[01:57] <trendsetter37> loginfliggle: intel corporation yada yada yada
[01:57] <peng8> loginfliggle, the thing troubles me is that i had normal access right after the installation, it was only the name typo. i guess 'mountamanager' must have changed the rw,default...
[01:57] <josh____> hey all
[01:58] <josh____> anyone here exceptionally good with openoffice calc?
[01:58] <naptastic> I just installed Karmic and I love it, except that my display settings don't persist; I have to use the NVidia settings tool to mirror my screens every time I log in. How do I fix this?
[01:58] <Marxisme> nobody ?
[01:58] <loginfliggle> trendsetter37: maybe want to google it. it might be a known issue. i g2g though. good luck mate
[01:58] <naptastic> josh____, I'm pretty good with it. What do you need to do?
[01:58] <trendsetter37> loginfliggle: thanx
[01:58] <geirha> peng8: ntfs doesn't have support for linux's permissioning scheme, so instead you have to set the permissions for all files and directories during mount. If you are the only one that needs access to that mount point, you can set your user as owner to all files and directories
[01:59] <josh____> naptastic you mind if I pm you?
[01:59] <loginfliggle> peng8: not too sure. in theory it should have worked with 007 but idk. as long as its working now :). i g2g though. keep on learnin :)
[01:59] <Tiders> naptastic, sudo nvidia-xconfig and tehn save your configuration to your xconfig within the nvidia tool (make sure you gksudo)
[01:59] <naptastic> josh____, go ahead
[01:59] <naptastic> Tiders, thanks. What does gksudo mean?
[01:59] <tiger_> somebody can help me
[01:59] <Tiders> naptastic, Its like sudo but for graphical applications
[01:59] <rich> Is there a command in apt to find the email address of a package maintainer?
[02:00] <naptastic> Tiders, good to know...
[02:00] <Gnarwal__> !ask | tiger_
[02:00] <peng8> geirha, do you mean i need to do change something else now?
[02:01] <geirha> peng8: I don't think I've read all your conversations, so I'm not up to date with what the issue is
[02:01] <peng8> loginfliggle, thanks for taking me through this easy but vital step :_)
[02:01] <josh____> anyone good with making graphs in openoffice? I need some expert advice
[02:02] <tehdave> So, I'm having a really FUN issue...I'm getting sound, but it's all static. I used the Pulseaudio fix listed in (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578), and using the PulseAudio Volume control, when I set the main volume to 1%, it doesn't actually change the volume, but rather seems to change the % chance to have the sound turn to static. Sound is now mostly working, but I'm getting static on some sounds. any ideas?
[02:03] <tehdave> Running 8.10, onboard USB audio on the Motherboard.
[02:03] <sixtila> which plugin is required for rhythmbox to play mms
[02:03] <pat234324434> hello
[02:03] <peggy> i have tried to install certain add ons to watch videos but nothing is working....can anyone help me play videos on here
[02:04] <lzrdking> ok, i'll ask my bluetooth question again later
[02:04] <Gnarwal__> !help
[02:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> peggy, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:04] <peggy> ok, ill try that...thanks
[02:04] <pat234324434> I am trying to get suspend to work on my acer aspire one 741h 11.6" (with the gma500) - I have followed the instructions in the ubuntu wikie and got my screen resolution working and the driver, but I cannot get suspend to work
[02:05] <pat234324434> can anyone help?
[02:05] <geirha> peng8: If you add uid=<your-uid> to the list of options on that fstab entry, you'll be the owner of all files on that ntfs filesystem. Basicly giving you full access. You'll find your uid with th id command.
[02:05] <Tiders> v Hey guys I'm on 9.04 and my computuer froze up earlier... This is the log file that has the errors in it.  Anyone able to help?  here's my paste of cat /var/log/messages | grep -i ERROR > vlm.txt && pastebinit vlm.txt  http://pastebin.com/f490f8e31"
[02:05] <pat234324434> I added the code to the hal-info or whatever but it didnt make a differecne that i could tell
[02:06] <timClicks> is it possible to mount .img files, or just .iso ?
[02:06] <pat234324434> im a noob btw if its not apparent
[02:06] <skeet> any openoffice graph masters in the channel? I need a little assistance if you have the time
[02:06] <peng8> geirha, well, nothing big... during install of ubuntu today i set the ntfs to mount /doorss, and i wanted it to be /doors. to change that, teh only idea i had was to use software, cause i am very new to linux, and in doors you'd usually use software for this thing. so i got "mountmanager", and it changed the folder apparantly, but it(at least I did not do it manually, that i know) set permissions to 007, so it blocked me from accessing. loginfli
[02:06] <peng8> ggle told me to change the thing to "rw,default"... seeems to be working so far.   DO I NOT HAVE THE FULL ACCESS RIGHT NOW? "/Doors ntfs-3g rw,defaults 0 0"
[02:07] <hardbop200> hi all - is there *any* media manager that will "automagically" copy my music files to my iriver e100? rhythmbox won't do it...
[02:07] <tehdave> So, I'm having a really FUN issue...I'm getting sound, but it's all static. I used the Pulseaudio fix listed in (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578), and using the PulseAudio Volume control, when I set the main volume to 1%, it doesn't actually change the volume, but rather seems to change the % chance to have the sound turn to static. Sound is now mostly working, but I'm getting static on some sounds. any ideas? Runnin
[02:07] <tehdave> g 8.04 with onboard USB audio
[02:07] <Deviant42069> I'm trying to do this : http://www.arsgeek.com.nyud.net:8080/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[02:07] <ydrah> if I reformat my windows partition and use the same os will it mess the grub loader up or will I be fine?
[02:07] <Deviant42069> Does anyone know what i need to do to 'compile' it?
[02:08] <skeet> ydrah, I believe anytime you install windows it will erase grub
[02:08] <skeet> its easy to reinstall though
[02:09] <geirha> peng8: Well, can you read and write files to it? I haven't messed about with ntfs in a long while, but from what I can gather from the manual pages, it should now only be writable to root, and readable to everyone else
[02:09] <Gnarwal__> skeet, correct
[02:09] <Deviant42069> I'm trying to get rid of grub, because I can't figure out how to use it.
[02:09] <skeet> Grub is the bomb
[02:09] <peng8> geirha, how do i check?
[02:09] <Deviant42069> Skeet: That
[02:09] <Deviant42069> *is assuming you know how to use it.
[02:10] <skeet> any of yous guys good with openoffice calc? I desparately need help making this graph for my economics class
[02:10] <frogzoo> grub is a file system aware boot loader?
[02:10] <geirha> peng8: Try creating/copying in a text-file to /doors and see if you get permission denied or not
[02:10] <Deviant42069> I installed ubuntu, not knowing what I was doing. Thanks to grub, i have no idea how to get into ubuntu OR my windows.
[02:10] <Satzo> Deviant42069, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[02:10] <Satzo> bookmark that
[02:11] <pat234324434> anyone have experience with poulsbo chips and supend?
[02:11] <pat234324434> please?
[02:11] <geirha> peng8: And/or you can look at the permissions by right-clicking /doors -> Properties -> Permissions tab
[02:11] <Deviant42069> That page is huge, Satzo.. I have no idea where i should go to figure out what to type to load my windows.
[02:11] <ring0> is it possible using vsftpd to link folders symbolically to /home/ftp and let these folders be used by remote ftp users?
[02:11] <Satzo> Deviant42069, scroll towards the bottom
[02:11] <frogzoo> Deviant42069: if you figure out how to use "find" to find  your boot partition, it's easy from there
[02:12] <Satzo> it has links on quick fixes...but I HIGHLY recommend you read that tutorial sometime
[02:12] <peggy> ShazbotMcnasty, when i type that in it asks me for my password but wont let me type it in
[02:12] <tehdave> So, I'm having a really FUN issue...I'm getting sound, but it's all static. I used the Pulseaudio fix listed in (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578), and using the PulseAudio Volume control, when I set the main volume to 1%, it doesn't actually change the volume, but rather seems to change the % chance to have the sound turn to static. Sound is now mostly working, but I'm getting static on some sounds. any ideas? Runnin
[02:12] <tehdave> g 8.04 with onboard USB audio
[02:13] <nel> doing a Nvidia fix here and ran into a hurdle... removed all nvidia files using synaptic yet a sudo modprobe -l |grep nvidia comes up with 4 entries. How do I remove these entries?
[02:13] <frogzoo> tehdave: wind back the pcm volume to like 90%
[02:14] <peng8> geirha, "/Doors ntfs-3g rw,defaults 0 0", i moved files to the partition, deleted some files, added some... now txt you say? tried... seeems to be working now. but "Permissions" indicate as if it is only for root. hmmm...
[02:14] <Gnarwal__> tehdave, have you checked your volume settings to see if it's out of the ordinary?
[02:14] <Gnarwal__> tehdave, what frogzoo said
[02:14] <kevdog> whats a a2dp header unit?
[02:15] <geirha> peggy: It is just hiding what you type in. You are probably used to getting *s when you type in a password, but in the terminal, it just doesn't give you any feedback.
[02:15] <Deviant42069> Satzo: frogzoo: I keep seeing grub as having a menu, but when i reboot my system, it just gives me a command-prompt type display. D:
[02:15] <tehdave> frogzoo, Gnarwal__ : Doesn't seem to help any, have to keep reloading the file I'm watching 'cause it freezes when I mess with PCM volume
[02:16] <geirha> peng8: Well, sounds like I'm wrong then. Seems you got it working as you want it :)
[02:16] <peng8> geirha, well, but the permissions Do show strange stuff.....
[02:16] <Starcraftmazter> is the apache2 user under ubuntu www-data ?
[02:16] <jrib> Starcraftmazter: yes
[02:17] <frogzoo> Deviant42069: is there a prompt? what's it say?
[02:17] <peggy> thanks geirha
[02:18] <Deviant42069> It said (if i recall correctly) Grub>
[02:18] <Deviant42069> and something about TAB, which when i pressed, gave me a screen filled with commands
[02:18] <tehdave> frogzoo, Gnarwal__ : nope, I've tested various ranges of the PCM input and outputs...the input doesn't seem to make a difference. tested with random ranges from 1% to 90%, and muted. The only thing that seems to make a difference is the PCM output (only output stream available)
[02:18] <Deviant42069> none of which i knew what they did lol..
[02:18] <pat234324434> is there anyone in the room with experience getting suspend to work on a gma500 acer aspire one? I've been trying for days
[02:19] <SJr> I can't get my new Ubuntu install to have the correct display resolution
[02:19] <moonos> I've installed Windows for a custom-made pc and the ethernet driver wasn't installed and I tried to install it from cd but it wasn't found. I 'm on Ubuntu right now and the internet works fine for it but not for Windows? Why is that?
[02:19] <peggy> after i type in sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and type in my password will i be able to watch dvds
[02:19] <frogzoo> Deviant42069: what's "find /boot/grub/stage1" say?
[02:19] <peng8> geirha, please take a look http://yfrog.com/5cscreenshotpmp , may be you can tell me why it says "root" and lets me play around with files?
[02:20] <pat234324434> sjr have you tried editing your xorg.conf?
[02:20] <Voss> moon, what type of adapter is it?
[02:20] <peng8> geirha, cause I don't understand this phenomenon at all.
[02:20] <SJr> Yeah when I boot up it says I don't have enough Video Memory
[02:20] <Deviant42069> Frogzoo: I'll restart my computer and see; I'm using ubuntu's 'try without installing' option, because i can't get into any of my OS's
[02:20] <nel> bump... doing a Nvidia fix here and ran into a hurdle... I removed all nvidia files using synaptic yet a sudo modprobe -l |grep nvidia comes up with 4 entries. How do I remove these entries?
[02:20] <Deviant42069> is there a command to find my windows installation?
[02:21] <pat234324434> sjr hmm sorry can't help there
[02:21] <frogzoo> Deviant42069: any grub will boot your system, from the mbr or cd, if you know how
[02:21] <Deviant42069> I don't know what to type, is the problem.
[02:22] <Deviant42069> I literally have the grub command prompt, and 876287 different options.. lol.
[02:22] <geirha> peng8: According to that owner, group and other have all full access
[02:22] <Deviant42069> anyone bored enough that they would feel like calling me to help walk me through it? I have to restart my computer, and doing so cuts me off from this support channel xP
[02:23] <geirha> peng8: Btw, Alt+Printscreen takes a dump only of the current window
[02:23] <peng8> geirha, owner and group are set as 'root' and i am accessing it from my user account... how that works?
[02:23] <xim_> takes a dump
[02:24] <peng8> geirha, thanks for "btw", useful thing.
[02:24] <Helsinkus> hi
[02:24] <peng8> hi
[02:24] <geirha> peng8: There's also the last section "other" which shows the permissions given to any user that are not the root user, or not a member of the root group
[02:25] <Helsinkus> i put all my data on a secondary HD . i mount it at least twice a day to access my data when i need it. lately it's not been responding, and has been slow as hell. is it dying
[02:25] <Helsinkus> i've had it for 6 years
[02:25] <peng8> geirha, oh... that explains it... oh, you really shown me "the true light"_)) thanks.
[02:26] <peng8> geirha, so when folder access is given, file access is just "---", like it doesn't even matter?
[02:27] <xim_> geirha, any idea other than keyboard of what could be causing this GUI problem, its not control alt or shift keys, i tried.  it's whatever part of the xwindows system makes alt tabs and widow management work
[02:27] <peng8> Helsinkus, i'm no pro, but 6 years, I'd think of it as quite a long time. I think I'd be happy if everything worked for 6 years.
[02:27] <TKO_Jay> a 6 year old USB drive?
[02:27] <piojunbabia> hi i inserted usbdisk and i want to wrrite save something on usbdisk but it says i dont have permission to do so, what should i do?
[02:27] <TKO_Jay> how big is it, 10 gigs ?
[02:28] <geirha> peng8: write access to a folder gives you permission to create and delete files. For files, write permission gives you access to alter the file's content
[02:28] <Helsinkus> peng8. when i try transferring my folder "FILES" which contains 30 GB of all my data to my main HD with my OS, it says some stuff can't be transferred
[02:28] <nel> bump... doing a Nvidia fix here and ran into a hurdle... I removed all nvidia files using synaptic yet a sudo modprobe -l |grep nvidia comes up with 4 entries eg kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko how would I go about getting rid of these trace nvidia drivers which are incorrect versions and causing me a world of headache
[02:28] <geirha> xim_: What window manager are you using? compiz? metacity?
[02:28] <Helsinkus> peng8, and when i booted my pc today, it hung at bios and said master drive 3 error
[02:29] <Helsinkus> and when i rebooted it worked
[02:29] <xim_> geirha is compiz the window manager? i have compiz but recently i havent been using it.  its whatever its set to by default in ubuntu when you dont activiate the nifty compiz options
[02:29] <tehdave> Alright...my music is sounding interesting with this issue going on - the more complicated the sound (distorted guitars, most voice, drums), the more likely it is to be static. Videos seem to be mostly clear except when a lot is going on at once...
[02:30] <CarlFK> is the new ubuntu greeting noise about 2x as loud as it was before?
[02:30] <peng8> Helsinkus, I am just a user, very stupid one apparently... sorry.  btw, is the prob with your external hdd or the one from which you boot?
[02:30] <Helsinkus> external
[02:30] <Helsinkus> but it's actually internal
[02:30] <Helsinkus> connects via SCSI
[02:31] <geirha> xim_: Well, for testing, open a terminal and type in (without the quotes) "metacity --replace &"   and then "compiz --replace &"   And see if you get the same problems in both.
[02:31] <peng8> geirha, so now I won't be able to alter content of the files on that drive? do you think i should get access to files?
[02:31] <Helsinkus> i have a 120GB for my installation, and 40 GB for my data
[02:31] <DSpair> Hey gang, anyone know anything about Karmic causing machines to shutdown (instant power off) randomly?
[02:31] <xim_> geirha will that work if do ctrl+alt+1 and type it in the terminal there? because right now now im trapped in xchat
[02:32] <DSpair> I have a GigaByte MoBo doing it, and a Toshiba laptop doing it.
[02:32] <peng8> if the prob is with your 40gb, why would you have a boot trouble, Helsinkus?
[02:32] <Guest90674> list
[02:33] <Guest90674> #list
[02:33] <peng8> DSpair, ubuntu freezes on me like all the time with games and all, which i do not like, but I still have to shut down it manually... as in with my finger...
[02:33] <piojunbabia> hi what is the default password for root user? thanks
[02:33] <Guest71697> hello. can anyone give me a guide on installing office 2007 with wine? i saw a couple on google but they differ a lot and so im confused
[02:33] <DSpair> piojunbabia: There is no password set for the root user.
[02:33] <peng8> piojunbabia, have you tried your normal password?
[02:33] <CarlFK> piojunbabia: the root account is disabled - use sudo
[02:34] <geirha> peng8: No, those file-permissions you see in that window doesn't mean anything. It's dropdowns you can use to alter the permissions of all files in that folder. Though that won't work on ntfs filesystems
[02:34] <piojunbabia> sudo and what?
[02:34] <piojunbabia> normal passwords is "root" right?
[02:34] <CarlFK> piojunbabia: sudo command you want to run as root
[02:34] <peng8> geirha, which means.... ??? (oh, and why it don't work on ntfs?)
[02:34] <CarlFK> piojunbabia: man sudo
[02:34] <DSpair> peng8: I saw a thread on the Ubuntu forums about something similar, but the last post was back in June and no resolution was listed.
[02:34] <geirha> xim_: Not sure, it may work to prepend DISPLAY=:0.  "DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace &"
[02:35] <piojunbabia> "sudo root"?
[02:35] <CarlFK> piojunbabia: man sudo
[02:35] <Boohbah> piojunbabia: sudo su -
[02:35] <CarlFK> Boohbah: boo...
[02:35] <Boohbah> CarlFK: what?
[02:35] <peng8> piojunbabia, sudo, that the command you need to run as root. then it will ask for password for YOUR USER ACCOUNT, = YOUR NORMAL PASSWORD. try it.
[02:35] <geirha> peng8: Because ntfs doesn't support the permission scheme linux uses. For files/folders on an ext3/ext4 filesystem, it would work
[02:36] <DSpair> CarlFK: Yeah, I prefer the much simpler method of defeating security "sudo bash". :P
[02:36] <Boohbah> CarlFK: ubuntu sudo paranoia is unfounded.
[02:36] <CarlFK> Boohbah: that kinda defeats the point of sudo... not good to hand someone a loaded gun like that
[02:36] <CarlFK> Boohbah: take it up with the devs.  they are smarter than me
[02:36] <peng8> geirha, it's been so long, should i just shut up and be happy now? my problems with ntfs are over?
[02:37] <geirha> !permissions > peng8
[02:37] <Deviant42069> well
[02:37] <xim_> geirha, they both fail, DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace &  has alot longer error message in which it detects a video card
[02:37] <Boohbah> CarlFK: the point of sudo for me is to disallow root login to my sshd. then i sudo su - and manage my server.
[02:37] <Deviant42069> what is Grub rescue?
[02:37] <Gnarwal> lets keep rants on forums and off the help channel
[02:38] <Deviant42069> that's all that keeps coming up, and an 'out of disk' error
[02:38] <xim_> can compiz still be running if advanced desktop settings are not turned on?  is there a way to restart compiz from my terminal?
[02:38] <geirha> peng8: Well, it sounds like you got it working as you want
[02:38] <CarlFK> Boohbah: regardless of what you and I think about it, it's poor form to undermine what the devs have setup.
[02:39] <geirha> xim_: Advanced desktop settings IS compiz ... more or less
[02:39] <Boohbah> CarlFK: yes, i suppose
[02:39] <xim_> geirha, i thought so, so what is in charge of managing window focus and such when fancey desktop cubes are turned off?
[02:39] <Boohbah> !sudo | piojunbabia
[02:40] <peng8> geirha, good. thank you. let's hope it will be working that way. is there danger that these permissions to ntfs drive may by accident cause me trouble? like somme application would change something on that drive?
[02:40] <Tek-5-8-6> ok, quick one, What is the dif between Ubuntu and Kubuntu ? Just the KDE ?
[02:40] <Boohbah> !root | piojunbabia
[02:41] <furuno> Tek-5-8-6, yes, just the KDE & Gnome (the look n feel)
[02:41] <piojunbabia> thanks sudo - su worked!
[02:41] <Tek-5-8-6> ok,
[02:41] <Tek-5-8-6> Then here is my next question.....
[02:41] <peng8> "sudo -su is black magic" she said..
[02:41] <zer0rez> hey anyone know how i can get IMs to open up in a window in the default empathy client?
[02:42] <piojunbabia> said who?
[02:42] <geirha> xim_: metacity
[02:42] <xim_> piojunbabia, just type sudo and then the command you want...
[02:43] <jsaacmk> I'm trying to dump a CD from the drive. I do   dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/my.bin    but it fails to start at all. Are there any things different in 9.04 that prohibit this?
[02:43] <xim_> it stands for super user do
[02:43] <peng8> Tek-5-8-6 some software is also different. like if something desinged to run on Gnome, you'd have to google for information on how to set it up in KDE... I still don't know that by now))
[02:43] <JontheEchidna> part
[02:43] <eman> can someone help me find a .deb version for lives?
[02:43] <Joeba> -xim- what is sudo -s
[02:43] <Tek-5-8-6> i just installed Ubuntu on my home server and I shared 1 drive initally to see if the other PC's in the house could see and connect to it to use.
[02:43] <peng8> eman, who are lives?
[02:43] <piojunbabia> xim_ thanks
[02:43] <eman> video editing software
[02:44] <Tek-5-8-6> I was able to Map the drive on all the other PC's on the Ubunto PC.
[02:44] <Gnarwal> peng8, it's a video production program
[02:44] <ItOver> how do i reinstall ubuntu over my exisiting partition?
[02:44] <peng8> thanks
[02:44] <ItOver> im on the live cd now
[02:44] <CarlFK> eman: have you tried kdenlive?  i like it alot, but get the PPA version
[02:44] <Joeba> Can anyone think of a script (or just a line of script) that would press the "ESC" key?
[02:44] <tehdave> Alright. So I'm having static in Pulseaudio/Alsa and OSS doesn't work. Is pulseaudio simply buggered in 8.04?
[02:44] <Tek-5-8-6> Great, I added 6 other hard drives and shared them and now nothing. The Ubuntu PC does not even come up on the network list anymore
[02:45] <Tek-5-8-6> cant connect at all to the Ubuntu PC
[02:45] <peng8> ItOver, do you need to format the partition? just choose the "manual" partitioning mode...
[02:45] <ItOver> i dont want to format it
[02:45] <ItOver> I wanna keep most of the stuf on
[02:45] <CarlFK> Joeba: um, put a brick on it?  (proly not what you want, but what you do want is obscured..  what are you trying to do?)
[02:45] <ItOver> I just need a fresh install cause my GRUB is completly hammered
[02:46] <CarlFK> ItOver: boot live cd, ad the opening boot menu is something about 'fix grub'
[02:46] <Gnarwal> !recoveringgrub > ItOver
[02:46] <peng8> ItOver, well, just try reinstalling grub then. I found it on google, the howto for that. can tell you more. may be other guys can. but it was like 1 or two commands at all.
[02:46] <peng8> ItOver, you got the answer already....))
[02:47] <ItOver> I hve many times
[02:47] <ItOver> still no go
[02:47] <emanux> any suggestion for a good webcam software?
[02:47] <kismetgfx> !live
[02:47] <Gnarwal> !grub2
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> emanux:  depends on your needs i imagine.
[02:47] <kismetgfx> was hoping for a url
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> kismetgfx:  a url to what exactly? you can download them from ubuntu.com
[02:48] <peng8> what is the reason they put this GRUB2 in karmic?
[02:48] <kismetgfx> the live cd, i got karmic also having grub issues thought i'd try live cd
[02:48] <ItOver> im lost
[02:48] <ItOver> been up all night trying to fix
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  grub2 is  the next generation of grub. its fixes a lot of issues with grub, and offers more features in the future
[02:49] <emanux> ok, i just want to capture video using webcam
[02:49] <emanux> Dr_Willis: ok, i just want to capture video using webcam
[02:49] <functionofxy> Hello. I'd like to confirm that it is impossible to do: fglrx+compiz+xinerama
[02:49] <peng8> ItOver, if you reinstall, you will lose lots of system settings. I mean at least you might lose some. i reallly hope you can repair grub
[02:49] <keiya> Huh. Where's libixp-dev? Or are headers in libixp?
[02:49] <ItOver> me too
[02:49] <ItOver> ive tryed heaps
[02:49] <Gnarwal> ItOver, If you are thinking about fresh install, just specify your mount points in manual partition. For instance, my home folder is on another partition so I specify my mount point "/home"
[02:49] <ItOver> no go
[02:50] <ItOver> ok, i just chose "/"
[02:50] <ItOver> and ext 4
[02:50] <CarlFK> ItOver: the installer won't do anything you can't do
[02:50] <Ben64> ItOver: what did you do to break it
[02:50] <peng8> Dr_Willis, but grub2 uses different files for some reason? like instead of some lst file, it has grub.conf... and grub2 has less help on it, it appears to me, "the noob"
[02:50] <ItOver> i upgraded to 9.10
[02:50] <ItOver> restarted
[02:51] <ItOver> and got the command line error.
[02:51] <ItOver> cant even access windows partition
[02:51] <Ben64> ItOver: what error, also, try not to use enter as punctuation
[02:51] <piojunbabia> !format
[02:51] <ItOver> lol, sorry.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  grub2 uses totally differnt config file and  menu files. Yes.
[02:52] <ItOver> Hold on sorry.
[02:52] <Bookman> I am having a real issue trying to play flash content and watching videos on youtube using Firefox.  I uninstall all flash players and then install the nonfree player.  It works.  I shut down and reboot then it doesn't work and I have to do the whole process all over again to get it to work again.  This happens every time.  Ideas?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  grub2 is slowly getting documented more and more for 'beginners'   correct.
[02:53] <rebel_kid> where is the grub menu in ubuntu 9.10, there is no menu.lst in /boot/grub
[02:53] <furuno> Bookman, try install flashplugin-installer instead : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> rebel_kid:  if using grub2 - read up pn the grub2 wiki pages.
[02:53] <furuno> rebel_kid, its now called grub.conf or something like that
[02:53] <Bookman> furuno, I did
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> rebel_kid:  in short you edit /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/* and rerun update-grub
[02:54] <rebel_kid> ty
[02:54] <zer0rez> hey anyone know how i can get IMs to open up in a window in the default empathy client?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[02:54] <TheCash> I installed wine and a program ran(with errors) then I found online how to fix them but now the program won't run when I click on it
[02:54] <SJr> Hmmmm for some reason when I try and use Ubuntu with my intel video card, it is only one pixel wide
[02:54] <rebel_kid> Dr_Willis, oh great lol
[02:54] <peng8> Dr_Willis: why is there no software that would allow me to adjust grub to look and work the way i want it to? even Doors has 'msconfig' that does all that...
[02:54] <ItOver> Ahhh sorry I cant remember it
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  grub2 themeability at this time is limited. it does have 'hooks' and 'features' that are slowly getting developed to make it 100x more themable then grub1 ever was.
[02:55] <ItOver> but when i powered on, it would bring me straight to this screen saying grub command line. then i read a tutorial saying u needed to type in ( hd0,1)
[02:55] <ItOver> and all these other commands
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  read up on grub2 at the url given above.
[02:55] <Ben64> ItOver: you can try to fix grub from the livecd
[02:56] <ItOver> and fail again.. lol i can give it one more shot I guess.
[02:56] <peng8> Dr_Willis: i didn't mean themeability, just being able to change the setting of the grub menu.
[02:57] <ItOver> any suggestions
[02:57] <TheCash> I installed wine and a program ran(with errors) then I found online how to fix them but now the program won't run when I click on it
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  change the proper  config files, run update-grub at this tume.
[02:57] <Ben64> ItOver: fixing grub is more than just starting the computer and typing ( hd0,1) into the grub prompt
[02:57] <furuno> TheCash, what program?
[02:57] <Tek-5-8-6> Anybody tell me how to get my windoes PC's to see and connect to my Ubuntu PC ?
[02:58] <ItOver> there was other commands... thats just 1 I remember...  nad would u care to tell me?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> !samba | Tek-5-8-6
[02:58] <Tek-5-8-6> great. Will read thow now
[02:58] <peng8> Dr_Willis: oh, do you have a link that would tell me step by step what i have to do to install multiple linux'es in the grub with each distro rewriting the grub? and this grub-update, how does it work?
[02:58] <frogzoo> !samba | Tek-5-8-6
[02:58] <frogzoo> too slow, d'oh!
[02:58] <Gnarwal> ItOver, update-grub
[02:58] <ItOver> How?
[02:59] <Gnarwal> ItOver, that is the command
[02:59] <Satzo> peng8, here is another link:  http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[02:59] <ItOver> oh ok lol.
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> peng8:   select one OS to handle the booting,  be carefull to not let the other os's  overwrite the mbr. and  you might have to alter the boot files by hand to be sure each os is getting properly added. Grub2 in ubuntu however  has managed to see a great many linux disrots ive had on live cd's and it auto-adds them to the menus when i run update-grub
[02:59] <peng8> guys, in empathy, how do i read "channel topic"?
[02:59] <ItOver> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | peng8
[02:59] <CShadowRun> peng8: guessing, type /topic
[03:00] <leaf-sheep> peng8: Try "/topic"
[03:00] <ItOver> NVM, flase alarm.
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  you can add a new 'entry' in /etc/grub.d/40_XXXXXXXX and it will get added to the grub menus. if you want custome entries for different os's
[03:00] <ItOver> debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: could not open /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat: Permission denied Searching for GRUB installation directory ...  No GRUB directory found. To create a template run 'mkdir /boot/grub' first. To install grub, install it manually or try the 'grub-install' command. ### Warning, grub-install is used to change your MBR. ##
[03:01] <peng8> Dr_Willis: too complicated,, my brain is boiling already))
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  give up then I guess..
[03:01] <frogzoo> if I'm running grub, will installing grub2 require intervention, or "just work" ?
[03:01] <Gnarwal> ItOver, here is more documentation to help with your problem https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  or go read and learn how grub2 works. It will be getting tobe the default on more and more disrtos in the future i imagine.
[03:01] <Gnarwal> ItOver, It tells you step by step how to recover your grub with a LiveCD
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> frogzoo:  the grub2 wiki page details upgrading from grub1
[03:02] <ItOver> Ive read that... tryed it.
[03:02] <frogzoo> Dr_Willis: aight, thx
[03:02] <peng8> Dr_Willis: not give up. strategically retreat. or "take a break"))) thanks.
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> frogzoo:  i was just at the url.. and noticed that secton got updated/enlarged
[03:02] <piojunbabia> is there a way to format a flash drive using terminal?
[03:02] <ItOver> i see. grub 2. ill read up thanks. be backssoon
[03:02] <Gnarwal> ItOver, What happened when you tried it?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> Grub and grub2 are the kind of things you just got to 'read up on' and learn. :) to increase your linux-fu-levels.
[03:02] <ItOver> i tryeed a diffrent one, sorry.
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  i got grub2 setup to boot .iso files from a 'rescue' partition for my system. I can now boot this box.. and select 'ubuntu.iso' and i can boot/reinstall the OS  with no cd/optical drive/usb flash. :)
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> peng8:  thats just one of the neat tricks grub2 can do.
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> work time for me. Bye all.
[03:04] <Bookman> I installed flashplugin-installer and now I don't know what to do with it.  I cannot find any documentation on it.
[03:04] <peng8> question: nokia phones have software that really makes them work with computers. trouble is, that software is for windows. is there a way to do that in linux?
[03:04] <peng8> Dr_Willis: hey, you have a really cool setup there!
[03:05] <peng8> guys, /topic - "unsupported command"
[03:05] <peng8> !topic
[03:06] <peng8> ubottu, /topic does nothing for me! why?
[03:06] <peng8> __))
[03:06] <Satzo> peng8, check out wammu :)
[03:06] <peng8> Satzo, ..?
[03:06] <piojunbabia> is there a way to format a flash drive using terminal?
[03:06] <Satzo> for phones
[03:07] <trism> peng8: I guess it depends on your client, it works fine in irssi
[03:07] <furuno> piojunbabia, by using mkfs I believe
[03:07] <xjustyb11> piojunbabia, format it?  It didn't come formatted?
[03:07] <frogzoo> mkfs & pick your poison
[03:07] <ItOver> when I run:  nano /etc/default/grub  the screen just pauses.. do I open a new terminal or something?
[03:07] <piojunbabia> mkfs <drive> ?
[03:08] <peng8> Satzo, thanks! but will you be able to use it to connect you computer to the internet via GPRS of your phone?
[03:08] <xjustyb11> piojunbabia, mkus.vfat if you wish to use the vfat32 format.
[03:08] <peng8> trism, as i said, empathy... built-in ubuntu 9.10
[03:08] <xjustyb11> piojunbabia, sorry mkfs.vfat
[03:08] <Misantropo> vlc alsa:// doesn't work, it says "cannot open device hw for ALSA audio (Device or resource busy)" i am on ubuntu 9.10 64 bit
[03:08] <piojunbabia> ok thanks
[03:08] <xjustyb11> piojunbabia, You'll run it on the device node /dev/<whatever> device it is.
[03:09] <natewiebe13> anyone have the nvidia GT220?
[03:09] <craigbass1976> Someone just asked me, and I keep forgetting (for like two years now) to fix this...  When I click on an email address on a website, Thunderbird does NOT fire up, despite being the default app for this.  It didn't work in GNOME, nor is it working now in XFCE
[03:09] <ItOver> Gnarwal: are u there?
[03:09] <peng888> ... in xchat for gnome, /topic is working...
[03:10] <piojunbabia> i believe it is located in /media
[03:10] <xjustyb11> piojunbabia, /media is where it is mounted.
[03:10] <piojunbabia> oh
[03:10] <xjustyb11> piojunbabia, You'll need to unmount the media to format it.
[03:10] <piojunbabia> sorry i get it
[03:10] <doltek> what is the best app to view pdf files?
[03:11] <leaf-sheep> !pdf | doltek
[03:11] <doltek> !pdf
[03:12] <xjustyb11> piojunbabia, you can check the device to which it is assigned by using the mount command with no options
[03:12] <Satzo> peng8, no wammu isnt meant for that
[03:12] <Satzo> doltek, in my opinion acrobat reader for linux
[03:12] <peng8> Satzo, is there anything?
[03:12] <Satzo> peng8, probably but i dont know.. google and check
[03:13] <piojunbabia> ok
[03:13] <Guest85003> what do i have to install to listen to mp3s? i installed what movie player wanted but then it says its missing the decoder plugin
[03:13] <piojunbabia> i thought its as simple as 123 :)
[03:13] <ItOver> Guys?
[03:13] <Satzo> Guest85003, audacious2 is close to winamp
[03:13] <con-man_> whats the "ipconfig /flushdns" equivalent in linux?
[03:13] <furuno> Guest85003, GStreamer-FFMPEG and GStreamer-Plugin-Extra
[03:13] <ardchoille> !mp3 | Guest85003
[03:14] <Satzo> Guest85003, to play mp3s in your app, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:14] <xjustyb11> piojunbabia, Well you're doing the from the command line.
[03:14] <furuno> Guest85003, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[03:14] <xjustyb11> piojunbabia, CLI has a lot of options and therefore there is a bit of leg work to be done for the task.
[03:14] <Guest85003> Satzo, thanks, i will do
[03:14] <Satzo> Guest85003, if restarting the app dont work after you do that, logout and log back into
[03:15] <Bookman> Does flash work in 9.10?  With Firefox?
[03:15] <Satzo> Bookman, yes
[03:15] <furuno> Bookman, of course :D
[03:15] <Satzo> 32 bit tho, not sure about 64 bit
[03:15] <furuno> Satzo, 64-bit works fine too
[03:15] <Guest85003> Satzo, ok, i will be back if it doesnt work, otherwise thanks. Thank you also furuno ardchoille
[03:15] <con-man_> is 4chan ridiculously slow for anyone else right now?
[03:15] <xjustyb11> Satzo, I'm amd64 and flash is working here.
[03:15] <Satzo> 64 bit flash works?  wicked
[03:15] <ardchoille> Guest85003: That webpage has tons of info
[03:16] <Satzo> i want to go to 64bit soon.. just bought 8Gb RAM today.
[03:16] <con-man_> xjustyb11, what version of GTK you have?
[03:16] <zanberdo> is there a way to force a reinitialization of the video driver once my system has booted? I have a video switch, and if I boot with the switch selected to a different input then ubuntu does not recognize my display even when I switch the selector to ubuntu.
[03:16] <furuno> Satzo, pretty hard to saturate 8GB thought...
[03:16] <con-man_> GTK 2.18 doesnt work with 64bit flash...  mouse buttons dont work
[03:16] <xjustyb11> con-man, um let me check...
[03:16] <xjustyb11> GTK 2.18
[03:16] <con-man_> I can get it to work if I hold the middle mouse wheel down then left click
[03:17] <con-man_> xjustyb11, and your mouse works fine in flash? like youtube?
[03:17] <xjustyb11> con-man, Oh yeah that's due to a native overlay issue
[03:17] <Bookman> furuno, hmmm, must be just my machine then.
[03:17] <xjustyb11> con-man, there's a work around for that
[03:17] <con-man_> xjustyb11, do tell
[03:17] <furuno> Bookman, try : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer ?
[03:17] <Bookman> furuno, yup, done.
[03:18] <xjustyb11> con-man,
[03:18] <luist> how do i set emerald to be my default window decorator instead of metacity?
[03:18] <ardchoille> Am I correct in assuming that vga codes don't work i grub2?
[03:18] <little_eagle> does anyone know if you can run ubuntu on win7
[03:18] <Satzo> !ping
[03:19] <xjustyb11> con-man, Um, what you need to do is add a Native CDK export for the nspluginwrapper
[03:19] <furuno> little_eagle, if you mean dual booting, of course, I'm currently dual boot with win 7
[03:19] <xjustyb11> con-man, Sorry GDK
[03:19] <Satzo> little_eagle, thru virtualbox you should
[03:19] <con-man_> xjustyb11, and how do I do that?
[03:19] <little_eagle> tried running it off the cd
[03:19] <xjustyb11> con-man, Edit /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer
[03:20] <con-man_> and add what?
[03:20] <little_eagle> would not load the drivers
[03:20] <xjustyb11> con-man, Add export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
[03:20] <furuno> little_eagle, well, setting up a dual-boot system in ubuntu is pretty easy
[03:20] <xjustyb11> con-man, just before the line . /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/noarch/npviewer
[03:20] <furuno> little_eagle, just make sure that you defrag your windows partition first :)
[03:21] <Bookman> furuno, is there anything else I have to do?
[03:21] <doltek> I was wondering if there was a version of Blackberry Enterprise for Ubuntu Server?
[03:21] <little_eagle> didn't know if it would the way vista and 7  boot
[03:21] <xjustyb11> con-man, That is if you are using the Ubuntu flash plugin from the software center
[03:21] <furuno> Bookman, hmm, try reinstalling the FF maybe?
[03:22] <Bookman> furuno, Yeah, I tried that as well.
[03:22] <xjustyb11> con-man, Of course if you're getting the issue then I think you are.
[03:22] <con-man_> xjustyb11, yeah it didnt work, I will wait for the next flash update
[03:22] <furuno> Bookman, in FF add-ons window, make sure that you have flash in the plugins tab
[03:22] <kismetgfx> hmm linux bes server would be sick
[03:23] <xjustyb11> con-man, Okay.  Still not getting any clicks after restarting FF?
[03:23] <Bookman> furuno, No, it does not seem to have been installed correctly.
[03:23] <Satzo> doltek, check in here: http://alternativeto.org
[03:23] <little_eagle> furuno I guess i need to defrag so that the files are moved to different sectors...
[03:23] <little_eagle> is that right
[03:24] <furuno> little_eagle, yes, just to make sure that everything will work fine
[03:24] <con-man> xjustyb11, nope, not working
[03:24] <logankoester> Can anyone advise me regarding this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8459563 (xorg crashes randomly after upgrade)
[03:24] <mikeyduhhh> I installed 9.10 on a Presario 2100 laptop with a Broadcom 4306 wireless.  First boot asked me for a password for the wireless (Seahorse - passwords and keyring) and then, nothing.  So I found some info about downloading b43 and b43legacy drivers in a tar file and moving the contents to /lib/firmware/, which I did and still nothing.  Then I plugged it into a lan and updated all 147 updates and it worked.... on an open network.  W
[03:24] <jenky> logankoester: are u using an nvidia or ati video chipset?
[03:25] <logankoester> jenky: onboard intel
[03:25] <xjustyb11> con-man, Hmm.  Did you install flash from Ubuntu software center or from adobe?
[03:25] <orudie> is there a way to play with reverb effect / filter in VLC player ?
[03:25] <jenky> logankoester: hmm then i don't know..  sorry
[03:25] <logankoester> thanks
[03:25] <jenky> i'd heard there was a wellknown issue with upgrading and nvidia/ati chipsets
[03:25] <logankoester> I'd be satisfied if I could just know which packages caused the crash
[03:25] <logankoester> and how to revert them
[03:26] <a2f> anyone know what the alsa dev file package is?
[03:26] <logankoester> Is there any way to just completely revert the most recent apt-get upgrade?
[03:26] <logankoester> I desperately need this system working
[03:27] <orudie> is there a way to play with reverb effect / filter in VLC player ?
[03:28] <Satzo> logankoester, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=347294
[03:28] <ItOver> THATS IT. How do I just delete GRUb al together!!!!!!!!
[03:28] <xjustyb11> ItOver, Delete GRUB ?
[03:29] <ItOver> Yes, ive been up for like 7 hours trying to ix it.
[03:29] <Fizix> That's your bootloader, why would you want to do that?
[03:29] <ItOver> Im over it and I just want it gone.
[03:29] <scott_ino2> anyone here runing the latest daily ppa version of chromium, it's terribly broekn
[03:29] <xjustyb11> ItOver, What is the problem with GRUB?  Maybe it can be fixed?
[03:29] <ardchoille> scott_ino2: isn't it still in development stage?
[03:29] <logankoester> Satzo: reading..
[03:30] <Satzo> logankoester, theres a link in the forum pointing to aptitude
[03:30] <Satzo> may or may not help
[03:30] <ItOver> Ive ehard that too many times..
[03:30] <scott_ino2> ardchoille, yes but the last version was at least usable
[03:30] <dylan__> hey would anyone know why i'm having trouble connecting to a smtp server
[03:30] <mikejet> youtube doesn't play anymore on x86_64.
[03:30] <scott_ino2> ardchoille, it's not that big a deal was just wonderin :)
[03:30] <kishore> Satzo: Hello,i was not able to convert it using audacity.it just dint allow..it is .raw file ( binary)?,,do u have any suggestions pls
[03:30] <trism> ItOver: get your windows cd, boot to the recovery console, and execute fixmbr
[03:30] <ItOver> Well I turn it on and it goes straight to this black screen saying grub BASH command line
[03:30] <Bookman> furuno, Is there any documentation on flashplugin-installer?  I can find none.
[03:30] <ItOver> Does it matetr which windows cd I use?
[03:30] <ardchoille> scott_ino2: Anything in development should not be looked upon as stable, even thought it may work well.
[03:30] <kunji> Hey there, does anyone know a program that can play media from a windows media server or mediatomb?
[03:31] <dylan__> anyone know why i can't connect to a smpt server but i can connect to a pop3 server
[03:31] <little_eagle> well i guees i'll try virtualbox......thanks
[03:31] <Satzo> kishore, what is the source of this .raw audio?
[03:31] <scott_ino2> ardchoille, i didnt say it was stable
[03:31] <scott_ino2> ardchoille, it's linux, many things are development/unstable in addition to what IS stable
[03:31] <orudie> is there a way to play with reverb effect / filter in VLC player ?
[03:32] <kishore> Satzo: My friend gave it to me..he said it is a binary file
[03:32] <Satzo> kishore, and you are certain it is audio>
[03:32] <furuno> orudie, I belive that audacious has something like that
[03:32] <kishore> Satzo:yes
[03:32] <furuno> orudie, if you fine with audacious
[03:32] <trism> ItOver: shouldn't matter, but I've only done it with the XP cd
[03:32] <logankoester> Satzo: not really, thanks anyway
[03:32] <ItOver> good i have a xp disk.
[03:32] <Satzo> ok logankoester
[03:32] <ItOver> this better work lol or ill seriously start to cry
[03:33] <Satzo> kishore, just for kicks, head the file in terminal... ex: head filename.raw
[03:33] <ironfoot495> Hello I've just installed gloobus preview +coverflow I'm having a problem getting the files to work correctly there must be something I havn't done.
[03:33] <warfusion> hello everyone :)
[03:33] <furuno> !hi | warfusion
[03:34] <kishore> Satzo: I find strange characters
[03:34] <Satzo> can you paste just the top line?
[03:35] <_TOM_> what option for ls to list only directory?
[03:35] <furuno> _TOM_ , ls -d
[03:35] <kishore> Satzo:head break1.raw
[03:35] <kishore> x3;����-Ex14;'$����`@ x1a;x19;��x1b;%��x16;���������������������
[03:35]  * Satzo thinks _TOM_  should befriend man...
[03:36] <Satzo> ok kishore type file filename.raw
[03:36] <Satzo> in shell, of course
[03:36]  * SpaceGhostC2C agrees with Satzo
[03:36] <Krechet> Good evening. I'm trying to install UNR onto an HP 110 over PXE, but the wired NIC (Atheros AR8132) is not detected. Anybody has any clue what to do?
[03:36] <mgmuscari> is there some way to specify the font that will be used by lpr?
[03:36] <_TOM_> furuno: ls -ld ./*, it is not right
[03:36] <mgmuscari> for printing plaintext
[03:36] <kishore> Satzo:break1.raw: data
[03:36] <Satzo> damn....
[03:37] <Satzo> i dont know man.. if file cant determine what it is, i sure cant :/
[03:37] <furuno> _TOM_, -l will add more info, -d for only directory name only, man ls for more info
[03:37] <kishore> Satzo:Thanks anyway :)
[03:37] <HardDisk> popeye on google
[03:37] <_ZoC1> Hello friends, I'm testing xbmc in ubuntu 9.10 (karmic), and is freezing all the time (when starting). The xbmc proccess is using 100% of cpu, I killed the pulseaudio (according phorum about xbmc in linux), but the problem persist, cpu in 100% by xbmc and the machine very slow ... Any idea to fix this problem. ?!
[03:37] <furuno> _ZoC, XBMC is indeed quite heavy
[03:38] <holmser> is there any way to add par2 functionality to archive manager?
[03:38] <seravitae> Hey guys anyone know how to setup some sort of fake FQDN or something? Any time i try to open my ftpd or httpd it takes forever to open the server socket, i noticed from traces that its stalling while in procedres like socket.getfqdn(host) which tends to make me think its trying to get the FQDN, timing out after a minute then using the IP
[03:38] <furuno> holmser, maybe the pypar2?
[03:38] <_TOM_> furuno: yes, if let it display more info about only directory with -d option, how to do it?
[03:39] <furuno> _TOM_, try using the command "man ls" for more info
[03:39] <holmser> how do I set which programs open certain file types?
[03:40] <Satzo> holmser, right click on a file in file folder and properties
[03:40] <furuno> just right click on the file, and choose your apps or type the command
[03:40] <holmser> thanks
[03:40] <luist> how do i set emerald to be my default window decorator instead of metacity?
[03:40] <furuno> forget the properties
[03:40] <ssmy> can someone give me a hand getting my new remote set up? i really have no idea.
[03:40] <furuno> luist, are you on compiz?
[03:40] <_TOM_> furuno: i have read the manunal, but can not
[03:40] <luist> furuno, yes
[03:40] <Krechet> Does anyone know what driver is supposed to handle AR8132?
[03:41] <Chico> Haii.
[03:41] <Chico> Can anybody help me?
[03:41] <Aeguh3> How would one install sound drivers on Ubuntu Server 9.10? Im trying to install darkice and the /dev/dsp isnt there
[03:41] <furuno> luist, in the compiz config settings manager, check the window decoration plugin, and replace the decorator with emerald
[03:41] <Chico> With getting something installed?
[03:41] <furuno> !ask | Chico
[03:41] <Chico> Sorry...
[03:42] <furuno> luist, too bad I'm on openbox with xcompmgr so I can't help you for the details, but the exact decorator command is "emerald --replace" if I recall
[03:42] <Chico> Well, I need to install Sony Vegas. I can work with any version and I'm in Xubuntu 9.10 with the latest Wine.
[03:42] <mgmuscari> when i print plaintext with lpr to my printer, curly braces are not lining up with other text... the result is that the closing curly brace is printed on top of text that it should be enclosing. has anybody else encountered this?
[03:42] <_ZoC> furuno, do you recommend any media center !?
[03:42] <Satzo> Chico, check wine site to see if vegas is supported
[03:43] <Satzo> this isnt a wine support channel btw
[03:43] <luist> furuno, ya i use openbox at work... emerald --replace works but it goes back to metacity after restart
[03:43] <furuno> Chico, try this maybe http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=15124&iTestingId=35668
[03:43] <vanduc> hey I using Kubuntu 9.10 .I can't find SHUTDOWN button
[03:43] <vanduc> KDE ???
[03:43] <furuno> luist, if you're on openbox, just add emerald --rplace & in the autostart.sh
[03:43] <Lincesilenciosa> ;)
[03:43] <Satzo> vanduc, this isnt the kubuntu channel....
[03:44] <vanduc> kubuntu is Ubuntu using KDE
[03:44] <furuno> !kubuntu | vanduc
[03:44] <Chico> I have the keygen and setup, but I can't even get the first step done. How do I backup my .wine dir
[03:45] <Satzo> keygen??? haha wrong channel pal
[03:45] <furuno> Chico, just copy it
[03:45] <furuno> Chico, but, keygen???
[03:45] <Chico> I pirate.
[03:45] <Satzo> thats nice
[03:45] <furuno> Chico, why don't use a free open source software instead
[03:45] <Chico> Because I want Vegas...
[03:45] <Chico> :3
[03:45] <khensthoth> vanduc: Click the K Menu, Click Leave, Click Shut Down. Alternatively, press the Power button on your laptop and it would bring up the Shut Down prompt
[03:45] <furuno> Chico, then buy :D
[03:45] <Satzo> this isnt the channel for this Chico
[03:46] <Chico> Too much money...
[03:46] <furuno> :/
[03:46] <Chico> I'm not asking how to pirate, I need help installing it. Is this the right channel?
[03:46] <Satzo> no it isnt
[03:46] <Satzo> its a wine issue
[03:46] <furuno> hmm... I remember back then when I save money for photoshop...
[03:46] <Chico> Ugh.
[03:46] <Chico> I pirate everything.
[03:47] <khensthoth> Chico: Copyright law says that if we knowingly help people to pirate stuff, we are authorising the copyright infringement, and hence we are liable.
[03:47] <furuno> Chico, I don't think wine will work well with cracked software
[03:47] <Chico> Hmm, well then I'm not pirating it.
[03:47] <Chico> I just bought it.
[03:47] <Satzo> this channel is NOT for your reasons Chico jeez...
[03:47] <_ZoC> friends, what media center do you recommend to use in ubuntu ?!, I tested xbmc but freeze my machine ..
[03:47] <Chico> Well, I'm going to a new channel.
[03:47] <Satzo> head over to #wine
[03:47] <Satzo> some people.....
[03:47] <ssmy> _ZoC: check out moovida. similar, but really nice.
[03:48] <furuno> _ZoC, well, I never use a media center "seriously", so I can't recommend one sorry
[03:48] <acovrig> I just jumped in the wrong spot, jump into #wine..., sounds funny
[03:48] <_ZoC> furuno, np
[03:48] <acovrig> anyway, how do I change the open-with for a device?
[03:48] <acovrig> ubuntu 8.4.1
[03:48] <_ZoC> ssmy, yes, I knew this week, nice too
[03:48] <ryann> i dread the answer here.. but is there anyway to downgrade from lucid beta?
[03:49] <ssmy> ryann: can't say I know, but good luck anyways. and i believe it's still what, alpha 1?
[03:49] <kunji> Why is xmbc not in the repositories...the description of it seems like just what I'm looking for.
[03:49] <ryann> i recklessly clicked upgrade
[03:49] <fluffman> lucid is not even alpha 1 yet
[03:49] <ryann> and nothing works..
[03:49] <fluffman> they are still syncing with debian
[03:49] <Chico> How do I get to the Wine channel?
[03:49] <ryann> display driver is busted...missing dependancies everywhere
[03:49] <acovrig> how do I change the open-with for a device?
[03:50] <acovrig> Chico, /join #wine
[03:50] <ardchoille> ryann:  afaik, lucid is not in beta yet, but you can check in #ubuntu+1
[03:50] <ssmy> fluffman: actually, i think alpha 1 came out a few days ago.
[03:50] <fluffman> ryann: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <clueless2> anyone knows why Ubunto 9.10 is not reading the full capacity of the HD (250 gigs) but it's only reading 40 gigs.  I cloned using Linux bootable disk clone from a 40.0 gigs.
[03:50] <ssmy> kunji: I believe they just haven't submitted yet. there are .debs around though.
[03:50] <khensthoth> Chico: http://www.winehq.org/irc
[03:50] <fluffman> ryann: and change everything that says lucid to karmic
[03:50] <ardchoille> fluffman: I think that's just asking for more trouble
[03:51] <furuno> clueless2, I guess, different partition table, your partition table is designed for 40 GB
[03:51] <ssmy> clueless2: sounds like it just made a 40g partition on the disk.
[03:51] <clueless2> furuno .. dang!  so is there any fix for it?
[03:51] <ssmy> clueless2: you can probably fix it with gparted, but be careful.
[03:51] <kunji> ssmy: I see, cool, I'll try that out now, do you know another way to stream to an ubuntu comp. as you would to a ps3, for instance, in case this doesn't work?
[03:51] <furuno> clueless2, resize patition maybe?
[03:51] <clueless2> what happened was that, , i cloned from the old HD which was a 40 gigs.
[03:52] <clueless2> i'
[03:52] <gerzel_> switched to xchat on server menue as the panel's constant flickering on my desktop was taking focus away from xchat and making it very frustrating to type
[03:52] <acovrig> I have an iPod and I want my 8.1.4 ubuntu to open banshee instead of gtkpod, how do I do that?
[03:52] <acovrig> ununstall gtkpod?
[03:52] <ssmy> kunji: no, but xbmc is easy to get, i had it installed a while ago.
[03:52] <Guest87242> hello. how do i change grubs options in 9.10
[03:52] <fluffman> ssmy: acc/to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynxSchedule the first alpha will be released on the 10th
[03:52] <clueless2> i'm still learning ..Linux commands .. which is best for me  to resize .. Gpart or something else?
[03:52] <furuno> !gurb2 | Guest87242
[03:52] <kunji> ssmy: Yeah, I just found the directions, thanks.
[03:52] <furuno> !grub2 | Guest87242
[03:53] <acovrig> Guest87242, "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[03:53] <gerzel_> My panel appears to be flickering.  Metacity seems to be running.  I think it is a problem with an applet as I think I accidentally draged and dropped an applet and was working with the add to panel when this started, the add to panel program crashed.
[03:53] <ssmy> acovrig: system > preferences > preferred applications should help.
[03:53] <acovrig> ssmy, thanks
[03:53] <gerzel_> I have already tried a restart
[03:53] <Chico> What are some free alternatives to Vegas?
[03:53] <furuno> acovrig, no, GRUB2 is different from GRUB
[03:53] <ssmy> kunji: np
[03:53] <ryann> fluffman: and apt-get update would resolve the packages?
[03:53] <ssmy> clueless2: install gparted, it is a gui.
[03:53] <clueless2> i just did install
[03:53] <acovrig> ok, just my pennie's woth, I am part noob - lol
[03:54] <ssmy> clueless2: it's in system > administration > partition manager i think
[03:54] <ardchoille> ryann: I seriously doubt that will work as you expect it to
[03:54] <furuno> acovrig, you're on 8.04.1 right? it's OK
[03:54] <ve-net16> uiouiu
[03:54] <gerzel_> I need to find the controls for the panel so I can find/delete the applet causing the trouble.  I don't have access to the panel right now.
[03:54] <khensthoth> Chico: Video editing is not exactly the strong suit of Linux. That said, there are a few free video editor - pitivi, openshot ...
[03:54] <clueless2> ssmy ..Utility ... ;-)
[03:54] <clueless2> i'm looking at it right now
[03:54] <acovrig> avidemux
[03:54] <fluffman> ryann: since things are still fairly similar, maybe.  but ardchoille seems to think it may make things worse
[03:55] <clueless2> by the way .. it does readthe 250 gigs ..
[03:55] <furuno> Chico, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software#Open_source_software
[03:55] <clueless2> 38 GB filesystem ..
[03:55] <Chico> What's a Windows Box?
[03:55] <ssmy> clueless2: well, that is a different program, less focused on partion editing. i forgot that they included that with 9.10
[03:55] <fluffman> ryann: you may just need to reinstall, and start testing lucid in virtualbox or something
[03:55] <clueless2> 210 UNALLOCATED Space .. can I fix that 210 to make it bigger?
[03:55] <furuno> Chico, a cardboard box with a "Windows" text on it, no j/k, a Windows PC I Believe :D
[03:55] <ssmy> clueless2: let me see. one sec.
[03:55] <gerzel_> What is the filepath/name of the panel controls?
[03:55] <clueless2> k
[03:55] <_ZoC> friends, tnx for help
[03:56] <furuno> clueless2, resize that partition with gparterd
[03:56] <_ZoC> bye
[03:56] <fluffman> Chico: a windows box is a computer (box) with windows installed
[03:56] <furuno> clueless2, gparted, I mean
[03:56] <ardchoille> fluffman , ryann : changing the sources.list file and expecting to upgrade with apt-get is not the recommended upgrade method and I don't believe there is a downgrade method that will work flawlessly
[03:56] <clueless2> furuno .. man .. i don't see gpart?  did install gpart .. but I don't know how to use it
[03:56] <ssmy> clueless2: yeah, that utility doesn't resize, you need gparted for that.
[03:56] <Satzo> Chico, also http://alternativeto.org
[03:56] <furuno> clueless2, sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:57] <furuno> clueless2, it should appear beloy System > Admin menu
[03:57] <clueless2> furunno ..did that already
[03:57] <gerzel_> For the Gnome panel, the bars at the top and bottom of the screen are flickering for me, as if they are crashing and coming right back up, about twice a second.  Please someone, this is a big immediate problem for me.
[03:57] <ssmy> clueless2: it's in the system > administration menu as partition editor
[03:57] <furuno> clueless2, it called partition editor
[03:57] <khensthoth> gerzel_: Alt+F2, type gconf-editor. The configurations for the panel are in /apps/panel - Tryhaving a look there.
[03:57] <daevski> Anyone know _if_ I can get a button or hotkey to collapse a window to just the title bar in gnome?
[03:57] <furuno> clueless2, just a suggestion, I believe it's a good idea to make a new 210 GB partition as your /home parition
[03:57] <clueless2> hmm.. let me check again
[03:58] <ssmy> clueless2: nvm, it is just called gparted.
[03:58] <furuno> daevski, from System > pref > windows, change double click action to shade
[03:58] <ssmy> clueless2: did you install gparted, or gpart? they are not the same.
[03:58] <furuno> daevski, and just double click on the title bar
[03:58] <clueless2> i did already .. i typed sudo apt-get install gpart
[03:58] <clueless2> dang!
[03:58] <clueless2> GPartED
[03:58] <furuno> gparted
[03:59] <ssmy> clueless2: exactly...
[03:59] <furuno> gpart is a program to tear your hdd apart :D
[03:59] <daevski> furuno, thank you :)
[03:59] <clueless2> k ..installing right now
[03:59] <clueless2> i guess .. it was a type error
[03:59] <furuno> daevski, np
[04:00] <clueless2> i see gparted now .. yep
[04:00] <clueless2> i am seeing in System, Administration, Gparted
[04:00] <iKernel> can anyone suggest a good, *fun*, preferably multiplayer, game? a game that is designed to let the player enjoy themselves as much as possible
[04:00] <CrocoJet> someone knows if available for karmic, ld.so.preload.manager package ?
[04:00] <furuno> iKernel, genre?
[04:00] <bastid_raZor> iKernel: chess
[04:00] <iKernel> furuno, fun
[04:00] <Satzo> iKernel, thats a very open-ended question
[04:01] <clueless2> ssmy .. so i'm here.  stupid question ..what's the next step ..
[04:01] <iKernel> Satzo, not many games have me laughing out loud because of how much fun im having
[04:01] <furuno> clueless2, try resizing your partition to the max size
[04:01] <iKernel> I want a game that will have me laughing out loud because of how much fun I'm having.
[04:01] <Satzo> iKernel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games
[04:01] <clueless2> create a new partition right ? right click on the "unallocated"
[04:01] <gerzel_> khenstooth: Alt-F2 not responsive but I was able to open up the file browswer and get to gconf through /user/bin
[04:01] <furuno> iKernel, depend on your personal preferences :D
[04:01] <Chico> Omfg! I have this terrible external hard drive that would NEVER work on Windows, but right when I plug it into Ubuntu, it works.
[04:02] <clueless2> furruno .. i know what u mean resizing it.. but do I need to do .?
[04:02] <Fezzler> How do I uninstall a program that is not part of Synaptic?  Just delete the folder?
[04:02] <fluffman> iKernel: if you like first person shooters, nexuiz is fun
[04:02] <furuno> clueless2, depends, do you want to have a separated partition for your data or not
[04:02] <khensthoth> Chico: Great. Now you know the power of Free/Open Source Software.
[04:02] <ardchoille> Fezzler: How did you install it?
[04:02] <Satzo> fluffman, so is urban terror :)
[04:02] <clueless2> right click on the "unallocated" and click "new"?
[04:02] <Chico> Lol, Windows is fail.
[04:02] <furuno> clueless2, yes
[04:02] <clueless2> i don't want a separate partition ... i want all in one partition
[04:02] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> I believe I had to "make" it
[04:03] <furuno> clueless2, ok, then you will need to resize
[04:03] <Chico> Why can't there be something like Wubi for every distribution?
[04:03] <furuno> Chico, tehy do have something similiar
[04:03] <clueless2> furunno .. remember .. you're talking to a newbie or a clueless linux user ..who's starting to learn his way around
[04:03] <clueless2> thanx
[04:03] <ardchoille> Fezzler: Many sources include a "make uninstall" option. Try: sudo make uninstall
[04:03] <fluffman> iKernel: side scrollers? check out abuse, or one of the many mario clones
[04:03] <clueless2> how do I resize?
[04:03] <ardchoille> Fezzler: That command should be done from the folder of the sources
[04:03] <furuno> clueless2, okay, right click in your 40GB partition and choose to change size
[04:04] <clueless2> k
[04:04] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> I'll try it
[04:04] <furuno> clueless2, max it
[04:04] <Chico> I know that live cds are similar, but they're such a pain in the ass.
[04:04] <tehdave> Alright...important question: I've been running 8.04 for a while, and have it set up pretty much exactly how I want it. Only issue I'm having is Sound sometimes goes completely Bonkers, and I keep forgetting to write down what I do to fix it, expecting it to stay fixed (It Doesn't). Tired of this, I'm thinking of upgrading to 9.10. Would it be better to just backup /home and do a fresh install? or is it possible to upgrade through 8
[04:04] <tehdave> .10-9.04-9.10 from 8.04?
[04:04] <clueless2> furunno .. the "resize" option is there but it is in gray .. i can't do anything
[04:04] <furuno> Chico, chakra is pretty good
[04:04] <ardchoille> Fezzler: If all else fails, you can go into the make file and see where everything was installed
[04:04] <iKernel> hmmmmmmmm
[04:04] <furuno> clueless2, you need to unmount first I believe
[04:05] <clueless2> I believe? hehehe.. k
[04:05] <gerzel_> Ok when I right click on the panel, and then click on add to panel what command is that running?
[04:05] <fluffman> tehdave: backup and reinstall
[04:05] <khensthoth> tehdave: I would suggest just backup /home and have a fresh install.
[04:05] <clueless2> let me try that.  it doesn't hurt .. i can always reinstall if I have to. but it's part of a learning process
[04:05] <furuno> clueless2, well I don't have the courage to do the same on my pc, so I can't tell you exactly :D
[04:05] <ssmy> tehdave: upgrade is certainly possible, but may result in odd things. a fresh install, while time-consuming, works well. that being said, my laptop has been upgraded since 8.10 with no problems.
[04:05] <Chico> What are the advantages of Fedora?
[04:05] <bastid_raZor> tehdave: it is possible but expect things to break. if you have your /home on a seperation partition a fresh install should be easy.
[04:05] <clueless2> "Could not unmount /dev/sda1 ... ;o(
[04:05] <khensthoth> tehdave: It's possible to upgrade, but you'd have to upgrade through every release.
[04:05] <furuno> Chico, they have better logo design :D
[04:05]  * Satzo seconds bastid_raZor 
[04:05] <clueless2> furunno .. :-) .. can't unmount it
[04:06] <furuno> Chico, and it's blue
[04:06] <leebrocko> I have a problem. I want to use apt-get to install a specific package, which has a dependency that I don't want to install (I have a newer version compiled from source). Can anyone help me ignore a dependency and still install the packages using apt-get?
[04:06] <fluffman> tehdave: 1) ext4 in Karmic is REALLY FAST and 2) you have to do a full OS upgrade THREE TIMES...that takes a minimum of 4 hours for me...EACH
[04:06] <furuno> clueless2, do you have an Ubuntu live CD?
[04:06] <ssmy> clueless2: if this is the disk you are running the system off of, that is why you can't mess with that partition. if you want to resize you'll need to use the gparted livecd (always useful anyways)
[04:06] <Chico> Has anybody in here tried Windows 7?
[04:06] <clueless2> yes I do.
[04:06] <bastid_raZor> fluffman: you must have horrible broadband. 40 minutes tops here.
[04:06] <clueless2> ssmy .. u want me to pop that in ?
[04:06] <Satzo> Chico, yes
[04:07] <furuno> leebrocko, try dpkg --force-depend packagename.deb instaead?
[04:07] <Fezzler> What's the command line for "type" and is "type readme"
[04:07] <ssmy> clueless2: fire that up and you can use gparted from there to resize the partition.
[04:07] <furuno> clueless2, try booting from the live cd
[04:07] <Satzo> Fezzler, cat, tail
[04:07] <furuno> clueless2, you need to do it from live cd I suppose
[04:07] <Chico> Satzo, is it very good? I currently dual boot Xubuntu and XP
[04:07] <leebrocko> ty furuno
[04:07] <clueless2> live CD has a GParted right?
[04:07] <fluffman> bastid_raZor: oh, i can DOWNLOAD the information fast enough, but then it all has to INSTALL...for several thousand packages, replacing and installing each, that's a LONG time
[04:07] <Satzo> Chico, i like it, but this chan is for q/a ubuntu, not win7 :)
[04:07] <GodfatherofEire> Why would having a second keyboard layout in ubuntu disable the Alt_gr key?
[04:07] <furuno> clueless2, yes, but batteries are not included :D
[04:07] <jgiorgi2> is there an easy way to see which partition im running on, only one is in the grub menu, in gparted one will not unmount and has a ! next to the keys, im thinking that cant be the one im running on but i would like to check for sure
[04:07] <clueless2> just boot it up and goto the main menu ... then go to garted
[04:08] <ssmy> clueless2: you can install it if it doesn't.
[04:08] <clueless2> furunno ..lols
[04:08] <clueless2> k
[04:08] <tehdave> sooo...unanimous vote is "Fresh Install"...figured as much. For backing up /home, if I have mountpoints from a separate hard drive for ~/Video and ~/Audio, is there a way to use "cp" without following those mountpoints? got annoying when I tried doing a backup earlier and realized I was backing things up to a secondary hard drive that were already there.
[04:08] <eman> are there different ubuntu terminals?
[04:08] <tehdave> .r was were
[04:08] <clueless2> alright guy .. i'll come back.  If you don't see me ..then I'm start it all over. However I'll let you all know..
[04:08] <Satzo> tehbaut, tar would work fine too
[04:08] <clueless2> just remember my screen name ..
[04:08] <clueless2> lol
[04:08] <clueless2> thanks guys for all your inputs
[04:08] <ssmy> tehdave: man cp i think there is an option not to follow links.
[04:08] <Satzo> tehdave, tar would work fine
[04:08] <ssmy> clueless2: np
[04:09] <furuno> eman, no, it's the same as any other linux terminal
[04:09] <eman> o
[04:09] <furuno> clueless2, np
[04:09] <fluffman> tehdave: I would recommend just using gksu nautilus from the karmic live CD to be sure you get the right stuff
[04:09] <tehdave> satzo: how I ball up .tar? ^_^
[04:09] <fluffman> or if /home is already on it's own partition, you can leave it, but it won't be able to take advantage of the new ext4
[04:09] <tehdave> fluffman, Yes...this requires I find a blank CD lying about my apartment, which I'm not sure I have...
[04:10] <Satzo> tehdave, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119310
[04:10] <bastid_raZor> tehdave: if you're going to do a fresh install, have /home on its own partition. it would make backing up far less required.
[04:10] <furuno> I wonder, if win7 can read ext4...
[04:11] <ssmy> furuno: no. i guarantee it. i mean, its windows.
[04:11] <fluffman> tehdave: either way...nautilus FTW to be sure you only get what you need
[04:11] <iceD[R]> foruno, Windows 7 can read ext4?
[04:11] <Satzo> furuno, natively, no.
[04:11] <Satzo> ext addons are available for win32 tho
[04:11] <furuno> hmm, would be good if I can convert my 3 TB of data drive to ext4 instead of NTFS :D
[04:12] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> No go
[04:12] <peter__> Does anyone know what the keyboard called?
[04:12] <peter__> Like /sda
[04:12] <ssmy> furuno: actually, i think ext2 is as good as ext4 for just data. not sure though.
[04:12] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> How does the make file tell me where everything was installed
[04:13] <ardchoille> Fezzler: take a look at the make file, it tells the system where to put the files. An install is usually just copying compiled files to the system
[04:13] <ardchoille> Fezzler: Look for the "Install" section of the make file
[04:13] <furuno> peter__, if you're keyboard is on usb, it will be /dev/usbX (X= number)
[04:13] <ssmy> i need help setting up lirc for my new remote. anyone done that before?
[04:13] <peter__> It's a Laptop keyboard.
[04:13] <tehdave> does 9.10 have built-in support for 5 (7 - mouse scroll counts as a button) button mice?
[04:14] <ssmy> tehdave: no, but install btnx and btnx-config to get everything perfect.
[04:14] <bastid_raZor> peter__: /dev/input/  ..somewhere in there i found mine in /dev/input/by-path/
[04:14] <peter__> Ok.
[04:14] <ssmy> tehdave: i'm loving my mx revolution on 9.10
[04:15] <Boohbah> ssmy: logitech sux
[04:15] <tehdave> ssmy, thanks. Will that work for more exotic mice? was thinking of getting the ridiculous World of Warcraft mouse with umpteen million buttons on it...
[04:15] <furuno> ssmy, mx revo is greatd :D
[04:15] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> No clues in Makefile.  Possible that all files are in the directory and I just delete directory?
[04:16] <GodfatherofEire> Why would having a second keyboard layout in ubuntu disable the AltGr key?
[04:16] <furuno> hmm is there any irc client that understand terminal command? so I can sudo apt-<tab> in<tab> in this channel?
[04:16] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> Program I am trying to uninstall is gdigi-0-1-7
[04:16] <ardchoille> Fezzler: What is the url of the package you compiled?
[04:16] <furuno> would be great :D
[04:17] <bastid_raZor> furuno: irssi might do that
[04:17] <furuno> bastid_raZor, oh
[04:17] <furuno> bastid_raZor, too bad I'm not too fond of terminal apps :(
[04:18] <bastid_raZor> furuno: your loss :\
[04:18] <furuno> bastid_raZor, haha, nvm :D
[04:18] <Gambit-> hey chaps
[04:18] <ardchoille> Fezzler: hold on, I'm looking at the sources now
[04:18] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> http://hg.atheme.org/users/desowin/gdigi/gdigi
[04:18] <Gambit-> I'm trying to figure out if there is a good gui for managing snapshots and overlays
[04:18] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> U rock
[04:18] <furuno> hey shhift (chaps friend)
[04:18] <Gambit-> for qemu/kvm that is.
[04:18] <furuno> j/k
[04:19] <binky1> okay i finally installed it but it doesnt fit the entire screen how do i fix
[04:19] <binky1> I checked the settings
[04:19] <ardchoille> Fezzler: ok, you compiled it with: make  and you run it with ./gdigi  ?
[04:19] <fluffman> bastid_raZor, furuno: if irssi does that, I can figure out how
[04:19] <fluffman> using it now
[04:19] <binky1> i made it as big as possible but sill a little small
[04:19] <binky1> still small*
[04:19] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> right
[04:20] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> New version is out and I want to install updated version
[04:20] <ardchoille> Fezzler: ok, now this is unusual with sources for an app. since you compiled and are running the binary from the sources folder, you can simply delete the sources filder and the app is gone.
[04:20] <binky1> how do I make the screen fit?
[04:20] <ten80p> de.net
[04:21] <furuno> binky1, what app?
[04:21] <ardchoille> Fezzler: You should also look in your home fodler to see if there are any dot files or folders that have to do with this app
[04:21] <binky1> no entire ubuntu is like in a square in the middle*
[04:21] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> ok
[04:21] <furuno> binky1, try installing the graphic driver
[04:21] <Satzo> binky1, is your monitor detected?
[04:21] <ardchoille> Fezzler: Again, this is unusual practice for compiled apps, you won't be able to get away with this type of uninstall in every app you compile
[04:21] <binky1> k
[04:21] <furuno> binky1, what's your graphic card?
[04:22] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> only program I do this with http://desowin.org/gdigi/  specialized app
[04:22] <ardchoille> Fezzler: ok, should be fine then
[04:22] <furuno> binky1, and on specific monitor (such as LG), there's a feature to not stretch non native resolution image (like 1024x768 in 1920x1080 monitor)
[04:22] <ardchoille> Fezzler:  That's the simplest make file I've ever seen
[04:23] <logankoester> I need to roll back to the xorg I was using before the latest apt-get upgrade, can anyone tell me how to do this? I'm not sure how to find what version it was
[04:23] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> Can you walk me through make of version 0.1.8 real fast?
[04:24] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> http://desowin.org/gdigi/
[04:24] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> download the *.tar.bz2 file?
[04:24] <ardchoille> Fezzler: look at the "Setup" section on this page, it details how to install on Ubuntu: http://desowin.org/gdigi/
[04:25] <ardchoille> Fezzler: Those steps are in the correct order: sudo apt-get, wget, tar, cd, make, run
[04:25] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> I see.  Run each line or everything in one shot?
[04:25] <gerzel_> Is there a way to set my gnome panel back to the defaults?
[04:25] <ardchoille> Fezzler: one line at a time
[04:25] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> Follow your order?
[04:26] <ardchoille> follow the order on that page, one line at a time
[04:26] <gerzel_> Ie get rid of all applets and just load the panel?
[04:26] <furuno> gerrzel_, yes, just delete a panel and create a new one
[04:26] <Fezzler> ardchoille>> here we go!
[04:26] <iKernel> actually, you know what would be really cool?
[04:26] <iKernel> a clone of carmegeddon with online play
[04:27] <asty_poenya_arti> allo...
[04:27] <gerzel_> furuno:  Is there a way of deleting a panel when the panel is acting up
[04:27] <freetard> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RpoWKpAL9Q
[04:27] <tehdave> Last question before I get this nonsense started: should there be a reason the 64-bit Ubuntu wouldn't work on my system? (64-bit processor, all hardware assumed compatible except maybe (laughably) my DVD burner/drive
[04:27] <Guest54130> hi
[04:27] <gerzel_> IE how do I delete a panel when the panel is crashing/restarting too fast for me to get any command in
[04:27] <furuno> gerzel_, press alt-f2 and type in killall gnome-panel
[04:27] <ardchoille> freeman: This isn't the place to post videos from youtube
[04:28] <furuno> !hi | Guest54130
[04:28] <gerzel_> furuno: Alt-F2 not working.
[04:28] <ardchoille> freeman: sorry, wrong nick
[04:28] <furuno> !hi | asty_poenya_arti
[04:29] <furuno> gerzel_, then try the terminal, the command is "killall gnome-panel" to restart simply run "gnome-panel"
[04:29] <ssmy> tehdave: a bit late, but yeah. it just lets you click a button and tell what that button should do.
[04:29] <Tek-5-8-6> can somebody tell me how to get into root to change the fstab file ?
[04:29] <jamesey> I have a weird problem, I need to know how to update my kernel stanza
[04:29] <freetard> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RpoWKpAL9Q
[04:29] <tehdave> ssmy, ah ok
[04:29] <bastid_raZor> Tek-5-8-6: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   ..in a terminal
[04:29] <ardchoille> freetard: please stop posting videos
[04:29] <furuno> Tek-5-8-6, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[04:29] <jamesey> "gave up waiting for root device" while booting"
[04:29] <pepperspray> I think I need to install a new internal modem. Do I need to dl driver for it or it's auto-detected?
[04:30] <furuno> Tek-5-8-6, or what bastid said
[04:30] <tehdave> ssmy: had to figure out what you were replying to for a moment XD
[04:30] <furuno> pepperspray, depend on the model, usually it's automatically detected
[04:30] <jamesey> I need to add the line bootdelay=90 to my kernel stanza. can anyone help me with that?
[04:31] <Rajasun> freetard: what is so interwsting about that youtube clip? Does it help users here in anyway? Otherwise isn't it offtopic?
[04:31] <gerzel_> furuno: killall gnome-panel seemed to quit the panel but I got blank panels in replace and gnome-panel complains that cannot register shell: there is one already running
[04:31] <bastid_raZor> jamesey: which version of ubuntu?
[04:31] <Chr|s> Hi there, just recently installed the wrong version of ubuntu. I wanted 64bit but installed 32bit instead. First time installing Ubuntu on this machine. Unable to get the 64bit disc to load up on start up to install
[04:31] <jamesey> basitd_razor: 9:10
[04:32] <furuno> Chr|s, do youre processor support 64-bit?
[04:32] <jamesey> my fault, the line is rootdelay=90
[04:32] <Chr|s> yes it does
[04:32] <jonz> Chr|s: is it a cd you got from ubuntu? or did you burn it yourself?
[04:32] <Rajasun> Guys do NOT click on or visit any links from strangers on irc unless you kknow it  is from a known and trusted source. You should know better.
[04:32] <Chr|s> I burned it myself
[04:32] <Clueless2> hey guys
[04:32] <furuno> gerzel_, sorry, but I'm currently on an openbox desktop, so I cannot help with detail
[04:32] <tehdave> alright...ISO download started, time to go make coffee or dinner or watch a movie...or find a blank CD somewhereabouts
[04:32] <gerzel_> Is there a way to set all my gnome prefrences back to default?  This seems to be a problem that happens as I start-up just after log-in.  Something is breaking part of gnome and I don't know what.
[04:32] <furuno> Chr|s, what's the error message?
[04:32] <bastid_raZor> !grub2 | jamesey
[04:33] <jonz> before you burned the iso did you run an md5check to see if it was corrupted?
[04:33] <jonz> Chr|s: if not - do it now on the iso (if you stil have it)
[04:33] <Clueless2> furuno .. couldn't do it.  It'll delete all my stuff on the HD .. this is concerning about RESIZING my HD .. i'll have to create a new partition .. darn!
[04:33] <gerzel_> also how do I log-out w/o using the panel
[04:33] <Chr|s> furuno, there is no error message, for some reason the disc isn't recognized by any of my 2 disc drives on boot.
[04:34] <furuno> Clueless2, what?
[04:34] <furuno> Clueless2, resize shoudn't be deleting the data
[04:34] <ODST> problem with firefox: I clear all history, exit out the browser, reopen, hit h in the address bar, and it still shows suggestions of webites I visted awhile back.
[04:34] <Clueless2> furuno .. yes it will.  It stated "clearly .... " so I didn't want to do it
[04:34] <freetard> Freetards, face facts. You’ve lost. You’ve had sixteen years to try and build a desktop operating system, and you still can’t get your shit together. Nobody wants your software. It’s not Microsoft’s fault. It’s yours. Because trust me, if you truly developed a kick-ass OS with tens of thousands of drivers and easy installation and reliable performance, you’d be winning. But you’re not. Firefox caught on, right? Why? Because 
[04:34] <freetard> Desktop Linux, however, is a different story, and in your heart of hearts you know this. It’s a bad imitation of Windows and can’t even come close to OS X. Want more proof? India rejected the XO machine. Hardly anybody else is placing orders for Negroponte’s miracle laptop, despite the low, low price of only one hundred dollars. Now the Chinese don’t want Linux. They’re not buying into your crazy crusade. Sorry. And you guys
[04:34] <FloodBot4> freetard: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:34] <Clueless2> it gives me a warning about it..
[04:34] <Tek-5-8-6> perfect. worked like a charm
[04:34] <furuno> argh
[04:35] <Rajasun> !Ops
[04:35] <Clueless2>  appreciate for all your helps guys
[04:35] <furuno> Clueless2, well then, just create a new partition
[04:35] <Tek-5-8-6> much appreciated
[04:35] <ten80p> i tried installing ebox, but i get this message even though i did apt-get update
[04:35] <ten80p>  Failed to fetch http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgresql-8.4/postgresql-8.4_8.4.1-1_i386.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[04:35] <ardchoille> Wow, he sure earned that nick
[04:35] <furuno> Clueless2, and store you're data there
[04:35] <Clueless2> yep ..that what I am going have to do it..
[04:36] <Chr|s> !md5check
[04:36] <gerzel_> How do I log out of gnome w/o using the panel?
[04:36] <Clueless2> so if I want to install new apps .. can I redirect to my new partition?  I don't want to install on the first partition ..
[04:36] <tehdave> !md5sum
[04:36] <gerzel_> What is the command to type into an xterm to log out of my gnome session?
[04:36] <furuno> Clueless2, your app will be installed on the 40 GB ones
[04:36]  * shyam_k trying out orca in stumpwm(without gnome)
[04:36] <bastid_raZor> gerzel_: you could ctrl+SysRq+K  .. but that isn't really a way to log out properly
[04:37] <furuno> Clueless2, since it's the / (root) partition
[04:37] <ardchoille> gerzel_: open a terminal and run: gnome-session-save --logout-dialog
[04:37] <shyam_k> it doesn't support my native language tts so i wanted to have it in english
[04:37] <shyam_k> but then export LANG=C and then orca isn't doing it.
[04:37] <Clueless2> furuno .. dang! i see
[04:37] <shyam_k> its still giving me partially translated output
[04:37] <bastid_raZor> gerzel_: you could sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop/restart .. which will log you out.. but still not the most appropiate way.
[04:38] <furuno> Clueless2, 40 GB should be very sufficient, my root partition is only 16 GB
[04:38] <Clueless2> tell me .. i read about it..
[04:38] <Satzo> bastid_raZor, how would i summon a suspend from the terminal(or alt-f2)?
[04:38] <shyam_k> partially translated.. just because we haven't completed translation of orca in our language
[04:38] <Ben64> does anyone use ubuntu server to do webhosting?
[04:38] <Clueless2> what the hect is a GNOME
[04:38] <Ben64> wondering which control panels are good to use
[04:38] <shyam_k> the thing is that orca doesn't seem to listen to $LANG why is it so?
[04:38] <furuno> Clueless2, GNOME is a desktop environment
[04:38] <jonz> Clueless2: google "desktop environemnts"
[04:38] <bastid_raZor> Satzo: to suspend your computer?
[04:38] <Satzo> bastid_raZor, yes
[04:39] <Rajasun> gerzel_: there is if you are running GNOME, I recall coming across reference to Ctrl + Alt + Backspace in the 9.10 Upgrade notes.
[04:39] <ardchoille> !google
[04:39] <jonz> Clueless2: google "desktop environemnts for linux", actually
[04:39] <Satzo> i know u can mouse click that, buit a term cmd is nice
[04:39] <furuno> Clueless2, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME
[04:39] <Clueless2> jonze and furuno ... it's like Windows XP Desktop environment .. in this case it's a Linux Desktop environment right?
[04:39] <jonz> ardchoille: well i still answerred the question. i didn't exactly turn them around.
[04:39] <Rajasun> gerzel_: Goto "System"->"Preferences"->"Keyboard" then Select the "Layouts" tab and click on the "Layout Options" button then Select "Key sequence to kill the X server" and enable "Control + Alt + Backspace"
[04:39] <drew> hey
[04:39] <ardchoille> Clueless2: Almost, gnome can run on other OS's besides Linux though
[04:39] <jonz> !hi | drew
[04:40] <furuno> Clueless2, yes, and there's a lot of alternative, like KDE, Openbox (the one I'm using), LXDE, and a gazillion more
[04:40] <ssmy> gerzel_: Rajasun the better way is to execute sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart.
[04:40] <Chr|s> furuno, md5sum  is the same as the hash
[04:40] <Clueless2> furuno .. dang! heheh
[04:40] <furuno> Chr|s, I wonder, what's your processor?
[04:41] <Rajasun> samy_: you do not need to restart for mundane things like this
[04:41] <Clueless2> ssmy, furuno .. you guys are Sysadmins?
[04:41] <Rajasun> samy_: this ain't Windows
[04:41] <furuno> Clueless2, nope, I'm a web developer
[04:41] <bastid_raZor> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/pm-hibernate.8.html   Satzo would be a good page to read up on.
[04:41] <furuno> Clueless2, my skills still far below a real linux sysadmins :D
[04:41] <jonz> Clueless2: its funny you assume that, because the last person who's wealth of knowledge impressed me told me he was 12
[04:41] <gerzel_> Ok I try to kill the panel, giving a kill command for the id, it immedaitly restarts into the same broken state
[04:42] <Clueless2> furuno .. so you develop website? you know SQL?
[04:42] <bastid_raZor> !panels | gerzel_
[04:42] <ardchoille> gerzel_: killing the panel will usually respawn it. If it's broken now restarting will usually restart a broken panel
[04:42] <furuno> gerzel_, try reinstall, uninstall with : sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-panel
[04:42] <Clueless2> furuno .. far below a Unix admin .. you must be kddin me? lols
[04:42] <Clueless2> k
[04:43] <Chr|s> Furuno, my processor is a AMD Phenom 9850 Quad-Core
[04:43] <Tek-5-8-6> Is there an easy way to share all of my drives to all and any PC's using windows ?
[04:43] <Rajasun> gerzel_: try killing the process with kill -2 <PID> or kill -15 <PID> instead of kill -9 <PID> if u can
[04:43] <furuno> Chr|s, well that should support 64bit obviously
[04:43] <binky1> arg okay
[04:43] <binky1> doesnt have the driver
[04:43] <binky1> drivers*
[04:43] <bastid_raZor> furuno: normally, reseting the configuration of most things works instead of reinstalling the package.
[04:43] <Satzo> !samba | Rajasun
[04:43] <Rajasun> gerzel_:kill -9 <PID> can sometimes not work as the process concerned can refuse to die
[04:43] <tehdave> is there an easier way to open a root Nautilus Shell than with gksudo synaptic?
[04:43] <binky1> well doesnt support linux
[04:43] <jonz> Tek-5-8-6: do you mean in a multiple-boot setup? or on a network?
[04:43] <Satzo> sry Rajasun
[04:43] <Rajasun> Satzo: ?
[04:43] <binky1> how do I change the creen resolution?
[04:43] <stevecam> hello, i am just wondering, when i install something with synaptic it will sometimes give me a summery of what is getting left unchanged, is there a particular reason it is telling me that those packages are being left unchanged?
[04:44] <Chr|s> furuno, I figured that much, currently have 32bit installed, just having either of my optical drives to read the disc to start doing the 64bit set up for some erason
[04:44] <Satzo> !samba | Tek-5-8-6
[04:44] <binky1> to be bigger than wat it was
[04:44] <ardchoille> tehdave: you mean gksudo nautilus ?
[04:44] <bastid_raZor> tehdave: that a shell or file browser?
[04:44] <Rajasun> gerzel_: using kill -9 <PID> will keep the process from cleaning up temp files, closing sockets, informing its childs about its death and other nasty things.
[04:44] <tehdave> ardchoille, yeah...second time in the past 10 minutes I've made the same mistake...was wondering why I was staring at the package manager for 30 seconds
[04:44] <ardchoille> tehdave: That's the best way to open a root nautilus window
[04:44] <Tek-5-8-6> No, I change my home server PC from Windowns to Ubuntu. Now I just need to share 8 hard drives for the rest of the family to access using their windows PC's
[04:45] <error404notfound> is there a program in which i could enter an hostname/ip and it would keep pinging, incase if any pings are missed it will either record the time or alert me
[04:45] <Satzo> Tek-5-8-6, samba is the answer
[04:45] <Tek-5-8-6> I dont want them to have to enter name/pass. They should just be able to map network drive and map it
[04:45] <Draconis> has anyone ever had the issue where websites will redirect to toher websites on a fresh ubuntu install? Like for instance I click on online ordering for pizza hut and it sends me to google.com
[04:45] <jonz> stevecam: i would guess because the package (something it depended on) was already installed on your system, so it didn't need to do anything when it came to that package (or dependency, as far as your installation goes)
[04:45] <tehdave> bastid_raZor, it's actually the package manager...and I accidentally typed the same command in my shell...was wondering why I was staring at the package manager for a moment...
[04:45] <Adam75> Greetings lads. On my laptop I get really high pings all of a sudden.. I reconnect and it resolves the issue. Then after a lil while its back again..
[04:46] <jonz> Adam75: are you behind a firewall?
[04:46] <bastid_raZor> tehdave: the package manager will actually ask for a password once you open it. no need to start it from command line.
[04:46] <sprockets2000> anyone have a dell d630
[04:46] <Rajasun> Draconis: no...it is just you I think
[04:46] <Adam75> jonz; I don't belive so.. None on my ubuntu machine that is.. and from what I know the router doesn't have any either
[04:46] <Tek-5-8-6> Im trying to work it out in Samba but not understanding some of the documentation
[04:47] <tehdave> bastid_raZor, I know, which is why I was wondering why that's what came up instead of the file browser...meant to type "gksudo nautilus"
[04:47] <jonz> adam75 so.. you connect your laptop to the modem directly?
[04:47] <Draconis> Rajasun, doh! its very weird... it can't really be unbuntu specific because the other computers (windows 7 etc) are doing it to as long as the ubuntu machine is on the network
[04:47] <Adam75> jonz; Wireless to my router
[04:47] <stevecam> jonz, ok, thanks
[04:47] <snarkster> i really need some help getting this atheros 5001 working on my toshiba p305d-s8828
[04:47] <bastid_raZor> tehdave: and running nautilus with root permissions can be a bad thing if you aren't careful.
[04:47] <Rajasun> Draconis: Nothing to do Ubuntu.
[04:47] <jonz> Adam75: do you know much about routers? do you know how to log into its interface and see its settings?
[04:47] <tehdave> bastid_raZor, I know, that's why I'm being careful with it. Closed the root window the moment I was finished what I was doing
[04:47] <Satzo> snarkster, does ifconfig -a see the device?
[04:48] <jonz> Adam75: how many devices are using the internet behind that router?
[04:48] <snarkster> the device sees my network but wont connect.
[04:48] <Adam75> jonz; atm, 1 (this laptop)
[04:48] <bastid_raZor> tehdave: you could make a shortcut that would run gksudo nautilus .. add it to the menu
[04:48] <jonz> Adam75: what's "atm"?
[04:48] <Adam75> jonz; At the moment
[04:48] <tehdave> snarkster, is there a possibility that the router is refusing the connection because of a MAC address filter on it? or other security?
[04:49] <snarkster> nope
[04:49] <Satzo> snarkster, is it a usb device?
[04:49] <snarkster> using wpa2 personal secuirty
[04:49] <snarkster> no sir, built in
[04:49] <rashed2020> How can I switch ttys before logging in?
[04:49] <tehdave> bastid_raZor, Yeah...but it's incredibly rare I need/want to use it (instead of just running a terminal command for what I need to do)
[04:49] <bastid_raZor> rashed2020: ctrl alt f1 or f2 or f3
[04:49] <Satzo> does lspci or lsusb display the device?
[04:49] <jonz> Adam75: ok. i find it hard to believe, but if you were sitting live on the internet you might get a lot of traffic. i doubt you're really live on the internet.
[04:49] <rashed2020> ctrl+alt+Fnumber isn't working
[04:50] <Adam75> Is it possible to check what's currently using my connection?
[04:50] <snarkster> satzo yes sir it does
[04:50] <rashed2020> bastid_raZor: I should probably mention I'm on Hardy.
[04:50] <jonz> Adam75: what do you mean? like which processes in your operating system?
[04:50] <Hackerlife> Hey guys, I've been having some issues lately. First off, I have a Viewsonic Graphics series g90fb, capable of 1920x1440 res (although I most definitely do not want to go that high.) I have an integrated nvidia geforce4. I am running Ubuntu 9.04. I cannot set any resolutions other than 1440x900 (which doesn't fit my screen) and 1024x768 (which works, but is kinda lower than I'd like). When I try to, it just says, "Failed to set met
[04:50] <furuno> Adam75, netstat -a maybe?
[04:50] <Adam75> jonz; Live on the internet? I'm not following you here. What do you mean?
[04:50] <Satzo> snarkster, \ are you using wicd?
[04:50] <bastid_raZor> tehdave: okay. you had asked if there was an easier way to run it.
[04:50] <Clueless2> furuno .. at least I was able to get the Website (locally) going w/ the the PHP, Mysql, and others capiabiltities..
[04:50] <nibbler> Mornin freaksters!
[04:50] <snarkster> satzo no sir
[04:51] <Satzo> i would install wicd(superior to the default network manager)
[04:51] <Hackerlife> I second wicd!
[04:51] <Satzo> :)
[04:51] <ten80p> how do i set the sources to the main server instead of the local server through the terminal?
[04:51] <tehdave|NeedaCD> wicd - thirded
[04:51] <furuno> ten80p, edit the /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:51] <jonz> Adam75: I mean, if I visit your modem's address (the ip assigned to you by your ISP), will I actually be visiting your laptop.. if so - then there's really no firewall between you and the internet and the router is just forwarding everything to you (not blocking any ports)  -- anyone feel free to correct me here.
[04:52] <jonz> Adam75: so do you know how to login to your router and view its configuration? what kind of router is it?
[04:52] <furuno> ten80p, uncomment (delete the "#") from the server you want, make sure to do it in root mode (use gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list)
[04:53] <snarkster> OK WICD IT IS
[04:53] <snarkster> thank you
[04:53] <Adam75> jonz; It's a preconfigured router send out by my ISP. I don't think there is any possibility to look up on its settings. I am behind a router but I'm guessing port 25 is blocking by my isp nativly
[04:53] <thansen> can anyone tell me if the 10.04 alpha releases include nvidia binary drivers?
[04:53] <Satzo> Adam75, i bet there is
[04:53] <Satzo> give us the make/model of the router and we can look up default user/pass
[04:53] <furuno> ten80p, oh by the terminal then sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list then :D
[04:54] <Guest52027> whenever i open the windows partition it asks me for a password, how do i disable this?
[04:54] <furuno> Guest52027, you cannot disable the "UAC" in ubuntu :)
[04:54] <Guest52027> furuno, really?
[04:54] <Adam75> so jonz I believe I am "live" on the internet by your definiton
[04:54] <jonz> Adam75: if someone could remember how to check your own default gateway with ifconfig - then i suggest you do that. then try to visit its address in a browser
[04:55] <furuno> Guest52027, yes, unless you login as root (which was seems to be quite hard to do so in Ubuntu)
[04:55] <jonz> Adam75: incase no one else is reading this give me  a second so i can go look at ifconfig's man pages (man ifconfig)
[04:55] <Guest52027> furuno, i see. and what about stopping it from asking me the root password at startup so it connects to the wifi?
[04:56] <furuno> Guest52027, never tried wifi in my box, so I can't help you sorry :(
[04:56] <Guest52027> its all good
[04:56] <jonz> Adam75:  - or you can just wing it and try a guess.
[04:56] <logankoester> Can anyone tell me how to revert a xorg upgrade with apt-get?
[04:56] <jonz> do ifconfig  | grep inet and let me know what the first address is (if its a 192.... address)
[04:57] <jonz> Adam75: ^
[04:57] <Adam75> okay
[04:57] <nibbler> logankoester: apt-get skills
[04:57] <con-man> how do I flush my dns?
[04:57] <Hackerlife> logankoester, do you have a backup? you can check /etc/X11/ for one
[04:57] <Hackerlife> Hey guys, I've been having some issues lately. First off, I have a Viewsonic Graphics series g90fb, capable of 1920x1440 res (although I most definitely do not want to go that high.) I have an integrated nvidia geforce4. I am running Ubuntu 9.04. I cannot set any resolutions other than 1440x900 (which doesn't fit my screen) and 1024x768 (which works, but is kinda lower than I'd like). When I try to, it just says, "Failed to set met
[04:58] <logankoester> Hackerlife: What am I looking for in /etc/X11/ exactly?
[04:58] <tehdave|NeedaCD> nibbler: if only that worked IRL
[04:58] <Adam75> jonz; I pmed you the log seeing as how it's a bit long
[04:58] <Hackerlife> xorg.conf.backup, or anything thats not xorg.conf but has xorg in it
[04:58] <logankoester> Hackerlife: I see a whole lot of xorg.conf backups and some misc other X and wm stuff
[04:58] <logankoester> no no, xorg.conf is not my problem
[04:58] <tehdave|NeedaCD> sudo apt-get install mad-skills-4.2
[04:58] <con-man> !dns
[04:58] <logankoester> my xorg.conf is fine
[04:58] <furuno> hmm sudo apt-get order --express coffee don't give me any coffee...
[04:58] <Hackerlife> logankoeser, yeah, look through them to find one that looks right
[04:58] <logankoester> I need to revert the actual version of xorg
[04:58] <con-man> !flushdns
[04:58] <rot> Usage: !flush <profile url>
[04:58] <con-man> !flush
[04:58] <rot> Usage: !flush <profile url>
[04:59] <maco> rot: are you a bot?
[04:59] <codeN> i know this may be off topic slightly but could anyone clarify for me the difference between a computer programmer and a software engineer? i am thinking of studying either of the two next year at college.
[04:59] <lifesengine> does anyone in here speak fluent italian?
[04:59] <con-man> how do I flush my dns?
[04:59] <foul_owl> how do i generate one md5sum for a folder full of files?
[04:59] <user__> no real difference
[04:59] <jonz> anyone know how to view private message in irssi?
[05:00] <user__> computer program is a software eng
[05:00] <con-man> >.>
[05:00] <con-man> grrrrr
[05:00] <logankoester> Hackerlife: my xorg.conf files don't contain any version information
[05:00] <con-man> I really want to flush my dns
[05:00] <tehdave> codeN, A computer programmer writes programs. A software engineer designs software. Note the semantics, and the lack of real differences
[05:00] <isolat3dsh33p> Q: why can't i gtk-config?
[05:00] <furuno> codeN : computer programmer is the one who do the program (type the code), the engineer is the one that design the system (how a will do b, so it will become c, or so), the main difference is their salary :D
[05:00] <lifesengine> is there an Italian channel for ubuntu?
[05:00] <Hackerlife> logankoester I'm confused at your problem then... perhaps I misread?
[05:00] <logankoester> Hackerlife: I have one that was backed up when I did the upgrade I believe, but it doesn't tell me what version I was using
[05:00] <FAJALOU> !ot
[05:00] <maco> !it | lifesengine
[05:01] <logankoester> Hackerlife: Okay, sorry for being unclear. apt-get upgrade installed newer xorg packages. Now I'm affected by an unfixed bug, and need to revert to the version I had before
[05:01] <Adam75> !se adam75
[05:01] <con-man> 4chan wont load and its pissing me off
[05:01] <con-man> grrrrr
[05:01] <Hackerlife> logankoester Oh... I'm sorry, I'm not too sure how to help you then... I think I understand your problem now tho...
[05:01] <Adam75> !se | adam75
[05:01] <tehdave> con-man, 4chan actually loading usually gives me the same reaction
[05:01] <Satzo> codeN, another main difference is the complexity between them.  software engineers are more involved than programmers usually ever get.
[05:01] <logankoester> okay
[05:01] <thansen> can anyone tell me if the 10.04 alpha releases include nvidia binary drivers?
[05:01] <Swiftman25> hey, i have some questions about ubuntu
[05:01] <maco> logankoester: if you can get the old package, you can "sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade *.deb"
[05:01] <furuno> !ask | Swiftman25
[05:02] <codeN> If my university offered a Bachelor of Computer Science and a Bachelor of Software Engineering and I want to pursue a career path that involves compiling and creating operating systems, software (and application) maintenance, maybe even working on confidential government projects, which would would I choose?
[05:02] <nibbler> tehdave, codeN: tehdave is full of crap. They both create softwarez.
[05:02] <maco> Swiftman25: #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <logankoester> maco: thanks, that's half of what I needed. The other half of the problem is I have no idea what version I had before
[05:02] <Satzo> codeN,  this isnt the channel for this topic.
[05:02] <FAJALOU> !ot > codeN
[05:02] <maco> !ot | codeN
[05:02] <Satzo> head over to slashdot.org codeN
[05:02] <tehdave> nibbler, sorry...should have disabled the sarcasm daemon...
[05:02] <jonz> Adam75: sweden?
[05:02] <FireCrotch> con-man: ubuntu doesn't cache DNS unless you have a dns server daemon such as ncsd installed. If that's the case, restating the ncsd daemon will flush the cache.
[05:03] <lifesengine> maco thanks brother
[05:03] <Adam75> jonz; Yes, I'm Swedish
[05:03] <superpaco> I have e problems getting updates and upgrades... I installed tor and polipo....also I removed everything but still I cannot get updates on any way help please
[05:03] <con-man> FireCrotch, I dont have that installed so this is interesting
[05:03] <maco> con-man: firefox, however, does
[05:03] <maco> lifesengine: sister
[05:03] <furuno> tehdave, just add --not-to-harsh option to it :D
[05:03] <con-man> maco, how do I reset it in firefox
[05:03] <maco> con-man: close firefox and open it again
[05:03] <con-man> maco, heh, don that
[05:03] <isolat3dsh33p> codeN: computer science
[05:03] <Swiftman25> !ask i'm downloading ubuntu atm, if i install it will it install over windows vista, and have both os on the comptuter? and if i download it will i be able to download nvidia drivers for ubuntu?
[05:03] <jonz> Adam75: okay, i'm not a networking expert yet. but i can try to help you. if someone wants to jump in with more knowledge that'd be great.
[05:03] <FireCrotch> con-man: Your router is likely caching DNS entries, and your router is likely set as your default DNS server
[05:03] <superpaco> I have e problems getting updates and upgrades... I installed tor and polipo....also I removed everything but still I cannot get updates on any way help please
[05:04] <tehdave> furuno, Ah...yeah I never read the manpages...just using it from a dirty install from years ago ^_^
[05:04] <Satzo> Swiftman25, they can both co-exist
[05:04] <FAJALOU> !xorg > Hackerlife
[05:04] <Swiftman25> but will they clash?
[05:04] <furuno> Swiftman25, Yes, it will dual boot, and installing driver is a piece of cake with the restricted driver manager
[05:04] <Satzo> Swiftman25, nvidia works well with ubuntu also
[05:04] <con-man> FireCrotch, maybe opendns is better
[05:04] <jonz> Adam75: how many devices are involved (i want to be sure i have a clear picture) - you have your laptop; a device given you by ISP (modem); and a router? am i right?
[05:04] <superpaco> I have e problems getting updates and upgrades... I installed tor and polipo....also I removed everything but still I cannot get updates on any way help please
[05:04] <Swiftman25> okay thanks for the help.
[05:04] <nibbler> jonz: You told me the meskaline was getting to you yesterday. Now, as a doctor of medicine i advice you to take some grass.
[05:04] <tehdave> Swiftman25, Nvidia is awesome about supporting linux
[05:04] <furuno> Swiftman25, I'm currently dual bootin (no, actually triple) Win 7/Ubuntu/Crunchbang
[05:04] <Adam75> jonz; There's only a router connected directly to the wall (fiber optics)
[05:05] <meowbuntu> hi all
[05:05] <furuno> !hi | meowbuntu
[05:05] <jonz> nibbler: what??? what ar eyou talkinga bout?
[05:05] <FireCrotch> con-man: Interestingly, Google just opened a set of public DNS servers that you could use. I believe they are 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[05:05] <furuno> hmm, nyanbuntu is better IMO :D
[05:05]  * microlith installs 9.10 on his aspire one
[05:05] <jonz> Adam75: so one device - other than your laptop?
[05:05] <superpaco> I have e problems getting updates and upgrades... I installed tor and polipo....also I removed everything but still I cannot get updates on any way help please
[05:05] <logankoester> maco: Will "sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade *.deb" be smart enough to downgrade dependencies properly?
[05:05] <furuno> superpaco, make sure you enabled the tor repo
[05:05] <Adam75> Yes. My HTPC when active aswell but not as of now
[05:05] <Swiftman25> but if i install it wont delete any files will it? i have files that i dont want deleted on C: drive were im planning to install it
[05:05] <logankoester> maco: or at least fail if it's going to break them?
[05:05] <maco> logankoester: no
[05:06] <superpaco> furuno, how do I enable the repo??
[05:06] <furuno> Swiftman25, as far as you follow the correct install procedure
[05:06] <jonz> Adam75: I strongly suggest you get a router. I'm not sure about Europe - but I'd imagine the prices are similar everywhere - and here they're pretty cheap, especially for what they can do
[05:06] <maco> logankoester: it should give you errors if badness will happen
[05:06] <nibbler> jonz: What a sloth he thought. Leaving the ephinadrone glands out like that.
[05:06] <Swiftman25> okay thanks
[05:06] <logankoester> maco: okay
[05:06] <logankoester> cool
[05:06] <logankoester> too bad there is no smarter apt equivilant
[05:06] <furuno> superpaco, check your Software Sources, make sure there's the tor repo in it
[05:06] <superpaco> it is there
[05:06] <jonz> nibbler: unless you can clear up what it is your talking about, can you stop?
[05:06] <Swiftman25> should i have downloaded the ISO for it? because im using the windows installer thingo.
[05:06] <superpaco> furuno, is there
[05:06] <Adam75> jonz; I'm not certain It's router related thought.. I've had other laptops running fine
[05:07] <superpaco> in the file
[05:07] <superpaco> but what do I do furuno
[05:07] <superpaco> ??
[05:07] <meowbuntu> anyone know if ubuntu 9.10 will work ok on my pentium 4 if i update it.
[05:07] <furuno> superpaco, then you should be getting update just fine, maybe there's no update yet?
[05:07] <nibbler> jonz: Quit pecking at me with your lawyer eyes for christs sake man get a grip! :)
[05:07] <superpaco> no I get this message look
[05:07] <furuno> meowbuntu, of course :D
[05:07] <superpaco> W: Failed to fetch http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release.gpg  Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:9050 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111: Connection refused)
[05:07] <superpaco> furuno,
[05:07] <superpaco> W: Failed to fetch http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release.gpg  Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:9050 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111: Connection refused)
[05:08] <tehdave> nibbler, while I approve of the Hunter S. Thompson-esque quotes, I think they might be a bit !offtopic
[05:08] <superpaco> but I removed everything
[05:08] <nibbler> He could feel the acid kicking in.
[05:08] <jonz> Adam75: from what you describe you don't have a router. you only have a modem. modems simply interpret whats coming in from the actually isp. its best to have something masking the addresses inside your network. you don't want to be exposed to the internet - nothing really should be, except a dedicated device (like a router you'd purchase)
[05:08] <furuno> superpaco, what? 127.0.0.1?
[05:08] <superpaco> I check all doc on line
[05:08] <superpaco> yes
[05:08] <jonz> anyone? is nibbler a bot?
[05:08] <ardchoille> !ops | nibbler continues ot after asked to stop
[05:08] <nibbler> tehdave: Thanks for noticing! / Smooth :)
[05:08] <furuno> superpaco, network problem?
[05:08] <superpaco> you know tor works on a proxy
[05:08] <superpaco> no
[05:08] <Swiftman25> oh and does ubuntu allow for wireless router things for my laptop?
[05:08] <con-man> awesome, opendns wont let 4chan load either
[05:09] <superpaco> tor works from your local host
[05:09] <tehdave> con-man, I think it's for your own safety and mental well-being
[05:09] <superpaco> then goes out
[05:09] <meowbuntu> furuno, my friend has the same computer as me and he told me it freezes sometimes. i have not updated and things work fine. pitty ubuntu cant backup or allow me to undo changes
[05:09] <Adam75> jonz; Your missunderstanding me. There's fiberoptic running in my house. I could connect a lan cable directly to the wall and not use a router or a modem. I do have a router ..
[05:09] <elky> nibbler, do i need to do something about your offtopicness or are you going to moderate yourself from now on?
[05:09] <FireCrotch> con-man: 4chan is experiencing a DoS attack, as far as I know
[05:09] <foul_owl> how do i generate one md5sum for a folder full of files?
[05:09] <con-man> FireCrotch, right now?  status.4chan.org doesn't say that
[05:09] <isolat3dsh33p> FireCrotch: what's a dos attack?
[05:09] <unop> foul_owl,  cat * | md5sum -
[05:09] <tehdave> isolat3dsh33p, Denial of Service
[05:09] <Swiftman25> denial of service
[05:09] <furuno> meowbuntu, are you sure that pc is properly maintained (dust-free, etc) ?
[05:09] <brummbaer> conman: you may want to sign into your openDNS account if you signed up for one and disable filtering.
[05:09] <thansen> can anyone tell me if the 10.04 alpha releases include nvidia binary drivers?
[05:09] <furuno> meowbuntu, it's kinda ancient
[05:10] <isolat3dsh33p> tehdave: thanks :D
[05:10] <FireCrotch> con-man: It was completely unreachable earlier today, I don't know the current status
[05:10] <foul_owl> unop: does this work recursively?
[05:10] <FireCrotch> isolat3dsh33p: Denial of Service
[05:10] <isolat3dsh33p> FireCrotch: thanks
[05:10] <meowbuntu> furuno,  yes
[05:10] <ubunewb> Hi!
[05:10] <furuno> !hi | ubunewb
[05:10] <unop> foul_owl, no, for that.   find . -type f -exec cat {} + | md5sum -
[05:10] <Adam75> jonz; I don't know where you live, but I'm sure you've heard about fiberoptical connections?
[05:10] <jonz> Adam75: try to explain this to me, because as far as I know fibreoptic is simply a type of cabling (faster, but still just cabling).
[05:10] <foul_owl> unop: thank you!!
[05:11] <furuno> meowbuntu, I suppose that Ubuntu will run just fine, if you're in doubt, you can try it from the live cd
[05:11] <Swiftman25> i'm downloading ubuntu, the normal one, should i have downloaded ubuntu the laptop version? since im downloading for a laptop?
[05:11] <prashant> my screen resolution is 800x600
[05:11] <furuno> Swiftman25, you mean the netbook one?
[05:11] <Adam75> jonz; the connection so to speak is in the wall.. there is no need for a modem to dial up and connect to the internet
[05:11] <prashant> i want good resolution like 1024x800
[05:11] <furuno> Swiftman25, the desktop is OK, the netbook one has a specialized user interface for low-resolution and low-powered netbook
[05:11] <Swiftman25> well i started downloading normal ubuntu, then saw the laptop version, and i have an asus laptop
[05:11] <prashant> can u help me
[05:11] <jonz> Adam75: in the USA, and yes of course. my point is, a modem between the wall and your computer is not enough of a safeety device (unless you concigure to be)
[05:11] <furuno> prashant, try installing the driver, what graphic card do you have?
[05:12] <Adam75> jonz; I don't have a modem
[05:12] <furuno> Swiftman25, it's OK to use the desktop :D
[05:12] <foul_owl> unop: all the docs i could find only showed how to generate an md5 for every file, not one for all files. thanks!
[05:12] <isolat3dsh33p> there's a laptop version? D:
[05:12] <isolat3dsh33p> since when?
[05:12] <jonz> Adam75: okay, that's fine (i thought you said you had a device between the wall and you. either way you definitely want to put something between you two.
[05:12] <prashant> its wipro laptop boss
[05:12] <Swiftman25> okay, but will i be able to use my built in wireless with ubuntu though?
[05:12] <Satzo> isolat3dsh33p, remixes i think they are called
[05:12] <jonz> Adam75: specifically, something you can configure
[05:12] <furuno> Swiftman25, most of the time, yes
[05:12] <prashant> 32mb graphic card sis
[05:12] <prashant> company
[05:13] <Swiftman25> okay thanks
[05:13] <Hackerlife> One more time...
[05:13] <Hackerlife> Hey guys, I've been having some issues lately. First off, I have a Viewsonic Graphics series g90fb, capable of 1920x1440 res (although I most definitely do not want to go that high.) I have an integrated nvidia geforce4. I am running Ubuntu 9.04. I cannot set any resolutions other than 1440x900 (which doesn't fit my screen) and 1024x768 (which works, but is kinda lower than I'd like). When I try to, it just says, "Failed to set met
[05:13] <isolat3dsh33p> Satzo: I never knew they exist :/
[05:13] <furuno> prashant, wow that's ancient
[05:13] <FireCrotch> isolat3dsh33p: There is whats known as the Ubunut Netbook Remix, which is geared towards netbooks, with small screens
[05:13] <Adam75> jonz; My god, I have a router. Probarly needs some configuration but my ISP figures that sorta thing out. All fast connections such as mine (120/120mbits) works thro fiber optics
[05:13] <isolat3dsh33p> FireCrotch: I know about that, but laptop version. No...
[05:13] <furuno> prashant, I don't think I know how to install that driver, sorry :(
[05:14] <prashant> thats fine
[05:14] <FireCrotch> isolat3dsh33p: Oh. there's no "laptop remix" as far as I am aware
[05:14] <FireCrotch> There would be no point, really
[05:14] <GLG> #conky
[05:14] <prashant> furuno, can u tell me is there any facility of usb graphic card in the market
[05:14] <furuno> FireCrotch, but, can we at least have the house remix? :D
[05:14] <GLG> how do i change to the conky room
[05:14] <jonz> Adam75: okay, i think i just ignored that comment a few minutes ago because i assumed you misunderstood what you have. sorry. so again, the next thing i'd do is try to get to the router's configuration. usually they have a web configuration panel.
[05:14] <furuno> prashant, what do you mean?
[05:14] <isolat3dsh33p> FireCrotch: that's what I thought.
[05:15] <furuno> prashant, USB graphic card? facility?
[05:15] <superpaco> W: Failed to fetch http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/Release.gpg  Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:9050 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111: Connection refused)
[05:15] <superpaco> Iget that problem
[05:15] <superpaco> any help?
[05:15] <jonz> Adam75: of course you need the address of said router to get to such a panel. which is what i have to look up. just a moment (and correct me again if it seems i don't get it yet)
[05:15] <isolat3dsh33p> prashant: I've heard about it, but not sure whether it exist yet or not
[05:15] <ubunewb> I accidently deleted the battery, wifi, bluetooth notifier on the panel, how do I retrieve it?
[05:15] <FireCrotch> superpaco: Why is it trying to connect to your local machine to fetch stuff?
[05:15] <prashant> currently i cant upgrade my laptop for higher graphic card so is there any facility of having external graphic card or usb graphic card?
[05:16] <isolat3dsh33p> furuno: somewhat like external graphic card
[05:16] <furuno> ubunewb, right click on the panel and choose add to panel
[05:16] <superpaco> because I had tor FireCrotch
[05:16] <Adam75> jonz; I'll try to configure it from my windows box. What I'm thinkin is that perhaps there's some sort of a virus on my computer or smth..
[05:16] <superpaco> I uninstalled it
[05:16] <ubunewb> furuno: But, those options seem to be missing...
[05:16] <superpaco> but still I have that problem
[05:16] <Swiftman25> okay, im downloading the ubuntu through the windows installer, can i find the file that it downloaded and use it on another computer? or do i have to re-download it?
[05:16] <furuno> isolat3dsh33p, never heard of it, but if it;s USB sound card, I've seen quite a bit
[05:16] <superpaco> for updates
[05:16] <isolat3dsh33p> prashant: no you can't upgrade your graphic card
[05:16] <furuno> ubunewb, oh, you need to restart the apps
[05:17] <ubunewb> furuno: Pardon my lack of knowledge, but how do I do that?
[05:17] <furuno> ubunewb, try log out and log back in
[05:17] <furuno> furuno, it the simplest way
[05:17] <GLG> none on #conky need lua help!
[05:17] <furuno> eh
[05:17] <ubunewb> furuno: Kewl... Gimme a sec.
[05:17] <furuno> talking to myself ain't I, need more caffeine :D
[05:17] <isolat3dsh33p> furuno: it's not exist.
[05:17] <jonz> Adam75: I don't think so. if you're exposed to the internet then its completely normal to get a lot of traffic (which is part of the problem - a potentially large portion of that traffic is looking for vulnerable openings).
[05:17] <tehdave> Swiftman25, I've never used the windows installer, so I can't necessarily speak for it, but the Live CD is a great investment of a bit of bandwidth and a blank CD
[05:18] <furuno> Swiftman25, yes, just copy the ubuntu-whatever.iso file :)
[05:18] <tyfj> why this not work:   find . -type f | sed -e "s/^./$(pwd)/"  ? But this work:  find . -type f | sed "s#^.#$(pwd)#"
[05:18] <Adam75> jonz; Then again, I have a really fast connection and a router blocking malware connections
[05:18] <Rajasun> GLG: there is a #lua if u r interested
[05:18] <syockit> I find it strange that the sound is not working on my Dell Studio 1535, though it was playing very merrily on LiveCD session
[05:18] <syockit> now how do I find out my sound chipset again?
[05:19] <furuno> syockit, have you checked the mixer?
[05:19] <gorgonzola> lspci?
[05:19] <jonz> Adam75: let me rephrase: i said "i don't think so" but in all honestly i have no idea what you have going on - so maybe you do have a virus. but if you're basing this guess on the fact that you're getting a lot of traffic, then my advice is that you shouldn't jump to "virus" just yet.
[05:19] <furuno> syockit, lspci
[05:19] <FireCrotch> superpaco: It seems you also had privoxy installed... did you remove it (or stop the service) ?
[05:19] <tehdave> syockit, lspci
[05:19] <syockit> furuno, tehdave: thanks
[05:19] <nibbler> tyfj: If anyone including you uses that garbage that person should have their head examined (Looks like crap).
[05:19] <Adam75> jonz; I reckon your point but I can't seem to trace this traffic
[05:19] <jonz> Adam75: well, you can always disable pinging. (that i definitely don't know how to do) - but that's an option.
[05:19] <superpaco> FireCrotch, Ihave look but I cannot find it
[05:19] <syockit> ooh, it's that intel ICH8 again
[05:20] <gorgonzola> syockit lspci | grep Audio if you're feeling lazy :P
[05:20] <Adam75> jonz: That's not to hard but It's a function I use quite often
[05:20] <superpaco> FireCrotch, where do you recommend me to look for that missconfig
[05:20] <acad> i want to print a document with an invoice number on it and have number auto-increment + 1 for each time it prints.... what am i looking for?
[05:20] <syockit> gorgonzola: it's okay. I just feel like seeing what this PC looks like under linux
[05:20] <jamesey> im on Karmic Live CD, i need to recover a file on my hard drive. How do i mount /dev/sda4 ?
[05:20] <jonz> Adam75: do you need to be directly exposed to the internet?
[05:21] <superpaco> jamesey, try with photorec or helix
[05:21] <FireCrotch> superpaco: If you have privoxy installed, you can do "sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy stop" to stop privoxy
[05:21] <Adam75> jonz: Not really. I will try to configure my router tomorrow. I'm reading now that It is indeed possible to configure it
[05:21] <tyfj> nibbler: if the question not welcomed, you can simple tell me
[05:21] <furuno> jamesey, sudo mkdir /mount/<name> && sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mount/<name>
[05:21] <jonz> Adam75: just a second.
[05:21] <furuno> jamesey, replace name with anything you like
[05:21] <freetard> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[05:21] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[05:21] <jonz> Adam75: accept a pm?
[05:22] <jipsy> #cebu
[05:22] <Adam75> jonz; Sure thing.. just pm me
[05:23] <superpaco> FireCrotch, I had polipo but is not working :s
[05:24] <FireCrotch> superpaco: Oh, you were using polipo... Did you try to remove polipo?
[05:24] <nic3> i have /home and /home as arguments, which exec can i use?
[05:25] <isolat3dsh33p> !polipo
[05:25] <Shwack> When I load an icon set with a tar.gz file, where does it save the uncompressed files?  I cannot find them in /usr/share/icons/  or with search tool
[05:25] <superpaco> yes
[05:25] <superpaco> is not in system no more
[05:25] <furuno> Shwack, sometimes, it will be in ~/theme/ or ~/icons
[05:26] <Shwack> furuno: I will check, one second - and thank you
[05:26] <furuno> Shwack, check the hidden directory in your home
[05:27] <isolat3dsh33p> Shwack: nautilus ~/.icons
[05:27] <Shwack> furuno:  I found it it in ~/.icons, thank you very much
[05:27] <brando753> guys i need to edit a video in ubuntu with a green screen, i was using Kdenlive but it crashes every 5 min, any other programs i could use?
[05:28] <FireCrotch> superpaco: are you able to browse the internet normally?  I think you may have an iptables rule accidentally left in place causing it to forward your http traffic to localhost:9050 still
[05:28] <FireCrotch> brando753: kino
[05:28] <superpaco> yes
[05:28] <superpaco> FireCrotch,  all is good
[05:28] <superpaco> just no updates
[05:28] <jMyles> How to output results of a terminal command to BOTH the screen and a file?
[05:29] <brando753> FireCrotch: will that handle chromakey without crashing?
[05:30] <Tek-5-8-6> What is the best file system to use for Ubuntu ? Say to format new hard drives ?
[05:30] <FireCrotch> superpaco: can you !pastebin the output of "sudo iptables -L" please?
[05:30] <FireCrotch> brando753: Should have no problem with it
[05:30] <superpaco> ok
[05:30] <furuno> Tek-5-8-6, for Ubuntu 9.10, ext4
[05:30] <FireCrotch> Tek-5-8-6: It depends on what its going to be used for
[05:30] <brando753> Tek-5-8-6: ext4 is great for Harddrive using only linux otherwise NTFS if its being used with other OS
[05:31] <superpaco> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[05:31] <superpaco> target     prot opt source               destination
[05:31] <superpaco> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[05:31] <superpaco> target     prot opt source               destination
[05:31] <superpaco> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[05:31] <FloodBot3> superpaco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <superpaco> target     prot opt source               destination
[05:31] <flan_suse> How do I add a custom service in Karmic? I already make the script, and it is executable, but I'm not sure how to add it as a system service.
[05:31] <furuno> Tek-5-8-6, altough some people told me that xfs has better large file performance
[05:31] <isolat3dsh33p> O_O
[05:31] <Tek-5-8-6> Great, It will be used for sorintg lots of Medi and Music files for sharing on a home network
[05:31] <isiah> I am trying to learn how to build and compile from source. I would like to know the best place to install software for A. trying it out temporary B. To install permanently.
[05:32] <cfedde> ~/bin/ for yourself /usr/local/bin/ for everyone else
[05:32] <furuno> Tek-5-8-6, either ext4 or xfs then
[05:32] <Tek-5-8-6> If I format all of the drives to ext4, Windows machines will still be able to read from them once I share them yes ?
[05:32] <FireCrotch> superpaco: interesting.  only other thing I can think to do is restarting the networking service or rebooting (if you haven't done that already)
[05:33] <flan_suse> Any ideas on adding system services in Karmic (if you already have the script made)?
[05:33] <furuno> Tek-5-8-6, you'll need to setup some sharing service
[05:33] <FireCrotch> Tek-5-8-6: If you share the drive using Samba, yes
[05:33] <Tek-5-8-6> Through Samba yes?
[05:33] <furuno> Tek-5-8-6, if you want direct access from windows, you'll need NTFS
[05:33] <flan_suse> I believe there was a command that defaults it to S20 under all /etc/rcX.d/ directories.
[05:33] <furuno> Tek-5-8-6, yes samba
[05:33] <superpaco> no I have not let me see that
[05:33] <Tek-5-8-6> ok, I understand
[05:33] <meowbuntu> furuno, i have already install ubuntu on a partition am using it noe. just need to know if there is a way to backup now so i can undo the updates if something goes rong.
[05:33] <isiah> cfedde do you mean /bin ?
[05:33] <GLG> can't find the correct way to implement conky_parse need help in #conky
[05:34] <cfedde> isiah: I mean $HOME/bin
[05:34] <isiah> cfedde: I do not have that
[05:34] <furuno> meowbuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[05:34] <Gopher``> need graphics help...  I installed the proprietary ATI driver via the Ubuntu menu, restarted, and now my computer will not boot with working graphics. Is there a command to roll-back the driver? or to update it to something functional?
[05:34] <cfedde> cd ; mkdir bin; PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[05:34] <mah2223> hi guys, anyone know how to get rid of a file when you're getting "input/output error" upon trying to delete?
[05:34] <furuno> Gopher``, try too boot using the recovery mode, and choose to repair Xserver
[05:35] <Gopher``> furuno: I've done that, and it loops back to the menu
[05:35] <furuno> Gopher``, try using the root terminal and revert the change in xorg.conf
[05:35] <Gopher``> furuno: how do I do that?
[05:35] <cfedde> isiah: also take a look at man hier to get an idea of the usual directory layout.
[05:36] <isiah> cfedde: thank you for your help, so now if I install a program to this directory it should work like normal?
[05:36] <furuno> Gopher``, from the recovermy mode, choose to use root terminal
[05:36] <Gopher``> i meant the xorg.conf
[05:36] <mah2223> hi guys, trying to delete a file and getting
[05:36] <cfedde> isiah: if a directory is listed in your $PATH then it will be.
[05:36] <furuno> Gopher``, then go to "/etc/X11/"
[05:36] <mah2223> "input/output error" any ideas?
[05:37] <Gopher``> k
[05:37] <furuno> Gopher``, you should see something like xorg.conf.backup or xorg.conf.original0, rename it to only xorg.conf
[05:37] <furuno> Gopher``, then if you success, try this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[05:37] <furuno> mah2223, bad file/disk ?
[05:38] <mah2223> hey thanks- yeah, the file must be screwed up, but the disk is fine
[05:38] <mah2223> do you know how i can just get rid of it??
[05:38] <furuno> mah2223, then try to run fsck first to check the filesystem
[05:39] <GLG> need help with conky lua commands in #conky
[05:39] <mah2223> ok thanks, how do i do that??
[05:39] <Shwack> furuno: Do you know if the firefox New tab Logos are in the 16x16 or scalable folder?
[05:40] <furuno> mah2223, where's that file? is it on different partition?
[05:40] <lainy> Does anyone know of a tool that might improve the quality of a .wav voice recording, e.g., remove static noise, etc.?
[05:40] <solewitness> audacity?
[05:40] <mah2223> yeah it is
[05:40] <scottj> Anyone know of a program for switching windows by searching by title name? (preferably fuzzy matching)
[05:40] <mah2223> it's not on the same partition that the ubuntu install is on
[05:40] <furuno> Shwack, if you just want the logo, you can get it from here : http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Desktop_Project
[05:40] <solewitness> i cant start mysql on my karmic...any help??
[05:41] <lainy> solewitness: thanks
[05:41] <furuno> mah2223, right click on your partition
[05:41] <mah2223> done
[05:41] <furuno> mah2223, wait, is it NTFS of ext3/4 partition?
[05:42] <mah2223> it's ntfs
[05:42] <shriedi> how do i fix E: Couldn't find package upgrade
[05:42] <furuno> mah2223, well, it's easiser to do it from windows (right click > properties > tools > check disk)  :D
[05:42] <furuno> shriedi, you are entering the name package name in apt-get command
[05:43] <furuno> mah2223, and safer :D
[05:43] <shriedi> why this could happen when i try to install aany package i am getting this error
[05:43] <furuno> shriedi, what do you want to install?
[05:43] <mah2223> that's fine, i have a windows install
[05:43] <mah2223> i'll do it right now
[05:43] <shriedi> i want to install bind and
[05:43] <Shwack> furuno: I installed a custom theme, Magog White, and the icon that is used for closing the new tabs I want to change
[05:43] <shriedi> check update /upgrade
[05:43] <furuno> shriedi, bind?
[05:44] <ardchoille> furuno: his sources.list might have a problem
[05:44] <GLG> can't use conky_parse() for some reason need help in #conky
[05:44] <furuno> shriedi, the bind DNS?
[05:44] <shriedi> dns server
[05:44] <furuno> shriedi, try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bind9
[05:45] <tehdave> Where does firefox store bookmarks/preferences in Ubuntu? ~/.mozilla?
[05:45] <UBestB> how do I remove a single user from the login screen list? using karmic, I want the user to still exist just don't want it showing
[05:45] <shriedi> it always stop/hang at initscript bind9, action "restart" failed.
[05:46] <brando753> FireCrotch: Icant see how to use Chromakey
[05:46] <furuno> UBestB, from System > Admin > Login Manager (or somethin glike that), find for automatic login (I'm not on gnome, can't help with details, sorry)
[05:46] <darkex> im adding an ip to the hosts file so i can resolve it on my ircd located on localhost, but it wont work
[05:46] <BlueX> I crashed my taskbar and now its gone, how to get it back? I tried restarting
[05:46] <ardchoille> tehdave: yes, check a few folders deep
[05:46] <UBestB> I don't have login manager, got login screen, but there's no options there to do it?
[05:46] <ty5479> Hey Guys, I need help. I am trying to dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu 9.10. i have already installed Windows 7... Now i'm trying to repair grub.. But I am getting an error when I try to grub-update or grub-install /dev/sda. I get an error saying: "Auto-detection of a filesystem module failed. Please specify the module with the option `--modules' explicitly."
[05:46] <furuno> BlueX, for gnome, press ALT+F2 and type "gnome-panel" and hit enter
[05:46] <ardchoille> tehdave: I believe the bookmarks file is bookmarks.json and the prefs file is prefs.js
[05:46] <darkex> it looks like 192.168.1.100 test.bnc <--- i inserted that into my hosts file, but it wont resolve
[05:47] <darkex> doing hosts 192.168.1.100 works
[05:47] <BlueX> furuno, and for kde panel?
[05:47] <darkex> host*
[05:47] <mah2223> hey ty5479 i had the exact same setup/problem, it was a real bitch lol
[05:47] <furuno> BlueX, plasma, if I recall
[05:47] <mahngiel> ActionParsnip: you in here?
[05:47] <shriedi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:47] <mah2223> these forums like saved my ass
[05:47] <tehdave> ardchoille, thanks
[05:47] <ty5479> mah2223: Great.. lol Any idea where to point me?
[05:47] <ardchoille> yw
[05:47] <BlueX> thank you
[05:48] <ardchoille> shriedi: do you have synaptic open?
[05:48] <Miansc> Whats a good boot manager I can use
[05:48] <jongbergs> !bind
[05:48] <mah2223> im trying to rememember
[05:48] <shriedi> no
[05:48] <Miansc> from windows, to manually set up booting
[05:48] <maco> !info bind | jongbergs
[05:48] <furuno> Miansc, i recommend GRUB instead of GRUB2
[05:48] <mahngiel> shriedi: only one progam can access install/uninstall files at a time
[05:48] <ardchoille> shriedi: are you running another update/install/query/apt-get in another terminal?
[05:48] <maco> !info bind9 | jongbergs
[05:48] <Miansc> noo way
[05:48] <Miansc> not grub
[05:48] <mahngiel> jongbergs: GAG
[05:48] <furuno> Miansc, lilo?
[05:48] <ty5479> mah2223: Let me know if you remember. I'm following the online guides... But of course they didnt work in my case
[05:48] <Miansc> its taken me like all day to delete it
[05:49] <mah2223> right right
[05:49] <shriedi> yes sir i am trying to kill other hang/loop process
[05:49] <Miansc> ill try it
[05:49] <mahngiel> for all of y'all ubuntu wizards out there, don't forget Ubuntu is looking for IRC Council members: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1342853
[05:49] <Gopher``> furuno: i've copied over xorg.conf with 2 dist-upgrade versions of xorg.conf, and a xorg.conf-failsafe, and still nothing..
[05:49] <shriedi> no
[05:49] <ardchoille> shriedi: only one package manager front-end can be used at a time, if you have one open you need to close it to use another one
[05:50] <jongbergs> mahngiel: im trying to setup a dns server using a private address and behind the router
[05:50] <GLG> could there b a problem with the lua script i got off conky hardcore that makes it not possible to use conky_parse()?
[05:50] <Miansc> eww, lilo's red haha.
[05:50] <UBestB> what would I need to install to get login manager in system | administration?
[05:50] <furuno> Gopher``, try the command "Xorg -configure"
[05:51] <Miansc> Is there a bootloader in which I can set up while im in vista right now?
[05:51] <ioctl_> kermit_t? - djkerm?
[05:51] <mah2223> ty5479, i remember it had something to do with the ubuntu install disk
[05:51] <mah2223> oh yeah
[05:52] <kermit_t> hi ioc
[05:52] <ioctl_> hello :D, you're not djkermy are you?
[05:52] <mah2223> you do an ubuntu live session and you go in terminal and you do install grub
[05:52] <mah2223> i think thats it
[05:52] <mah2223> i remember it turned out to be really simple after all
[05:52] <ty5479> mah2223: Yeah I'm on a live disk right now. Except when I try to install it i get an error
[05:53] <mah2223> what's the error?
[05:53] <ty5479> Mah2223: "grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub.
[05:53] <ty5479> No path or device is specified.
[05:53] <ty5479> Try ``grub-probe --help'' for more information.
[05:53] <ty5479> Auto-detection of a filesystem module failed.
[05:53] <ty5479> Please specify the module with the option `--modules' explicitly."
[05:53] <FloodBot3> ty5479: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <ty5479> whoops
[05:54] <ty5479> Mah2223: Did you get that?
[05:54] <LaireTM> Good Morning
[05:54] <mah2223> yeah, wow
[05:54]  * Linux-CLI says Hi
[05:54] <Linux-CLI> Which command lists directories recursively (ls -R > log), includes the full path, then adds "File <tab>" to the start of each line?
[05:55] <mah2223> i never encountered that, i'm sorry- looks like you got yourself a doozy!
[05:55] <ty5479> mah2223: yeah I always do.
[05:55] <d6chung> Don't know if I can talk about 9.04 here but does anyone use "audio loopback" with an HDA Intel audio device? I've been using quite happily but suddenly it stopped working. I can hear clicks and pops as I pull the audio cables in and out and I can even hear some noise but I can't hear my audio source nor can I listen to my mic...
[05:55] <solifugus> Finally found an IRC client on Ubuntu that works..
[05:55] <solifugus> wow
[05:55] <solifugus> tinyirc
[05:56] <furuno> solifugus, Xchat-gnome pretty good :D
[05:56] <solifugus> Since pigeon is no longer available... what gui IRC client is available?
[05:56] <solifugus> furuno:  ok.. I can try that.
[05:56] <d6chung> This has been my workaround to get audio from my WinTV USB2 device so if something could get me audio directly from that, that would be even better.
[05:56] <ardchoille> solifugus: xchat is popular
[05:57] <kermit> solifugus: maybe because you're spelling it wrong.. it's pidgin
[05:57] <kermit> solifugus: its still available.
[05:57] <solifugus> ok.. installing it now with synaptic..
[05:57] <ardchoille> solifugus: and pidgin should be in the repos
[05:58] <solifugus> ardchiolle... it wasn't when I searched for it by "pigeon" in synaptic..
[05:58] <LaireTM> I have a Server with ubuntu. My only connectio is a SHH Terminal connection. Now  I want to use Gnome over a VNC connection. First I install gnome with "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" but what I have to do now?
[05:58] <solifugus> and kvirc didn't work.. said it had a corrupted script..
[05:58] <ardchoille> solifugus: it's "pidgin", not pigeon
[05:59] <mneptok> solifugus: Pidgin is a fairly anemic, but functional, client. xChat offers more and better features.
[05:59] <solifugus> ah.. that's why.. ok...
[05:59] <solifugus> Seriously though, the default IM client really should support IRC.. more importantly, it's really stupid to be changing apps like this between distro versions..
[06:00] <rumpsy> help me to install mysql-server-5.0, i getttin error while installing
[06:00] <UBestB> thought pidgin was replaced by empathy because it supported video/audio chat as well
[06:00] <alejandro> Holas
[06:00] <alejandro> alguein que hable español
[06:00] <rww> !es | alejandro
[06:00] <furuno> !es | alejandro
[06:00] <Linux-CLI> mah2223: Damn
[06:00] <solifugus> UBestB... but not IRC..
[06:00] <Linux-CLI> Where's mordy when you need him?
[06:00] <UBestB> does IRC too
[06:00] <mah2223> what?
[06:00] <rww> Epiphany is now installed by default. Pidgin is not. Both do IRC, Empathy just isn't very good at it.
[06:01] <rocdoc> yeah...audio/video/IRC/blah blah...you can't please everyone!
[06:01] <rww> s/Epiphany/Empathy/
[06:01] <furuno> solifugus, Empathy support IRC I believe
[06:01] <solifugus> UBestB:  IRC was not in the list...
[06:01] <furuno> solifugus, too bad it's pretty much sucks IMO
[06:01] <rumpsy> dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure) :subpreocess post-installation script returned error exit status1
[06:01] <UBestB> well, it worked when I tried it in IRC... just it's still got a long way to go
[06:01] <rumpsy> That was my error
[06:01] <rww> solifugus: cancel out of the setup wizard, go to (I think) Tools -> Accounts, set it from there. It's a pain.
[06:02] <rumpsy> and another thing, invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed
[06:02] <solifugus_> wow... Xchat-gnome gets right to the point.. nice..
[06:02] <Sacho> xchat is made of awesome.
[06:02] <furuno> solifugus_, nice isn't it :D
[06:02] <solifugus> if i do say so myself..
[06:02] <Berzerker> No other IRC client just as good, if you ask me.
[06:03] <Gopher``> furuno: configuration failed
[06:03] <rumpsy> is there any problem with hardy!!
[06:03] <solifugus_> rumpsy.. hardy's gone limp..
[06:03] <rumpsy> i can't install mysql in it
[06:03] <furuno> Gopher``, what? hmm... I confused :/
[06:03] <rumpsy> How to install mysql with out error
[06:03] <Gopher``> furuno: Xorg -configure = "configuration failed"
[06:03] <Brack10> Hi
[06:04] <Brack10> Can I update to 2.6.32 on Jaunty?
[06:04] <flan_suse> !runlevels
[06:04] <Brack10> do I have to build my own kernel to do that?
[06:04] <furuno> rumpsy : I did sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 and it pretty much straightforward
[06:04] <furuno> !hi | Brack10
[06:05] <furuno> Gopher``, maybe try this : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Manual_configuration
[06:05] <Brack10> furuno: what did I do wrong?
[06:05] <mah2223> furuno, was your intention for the windows checkdisk thing to just fix whatever the problem is? or is there a step after
[06:05] <mah2223> i'm just asking because it's probably going  to take another hour or so at this rate
[06:05] <furuno> Brack10, nothing... why do you think so?
[06:05] <rumpsy> yep i did that while processing i got error
[06:05] <Gumby> hi all.  I am trying to create a VPN connection but when I try to via NetworkManager Applet everything is grayed out most likely due to my user not having permissions.  There is however nowhere to input credentials nor does network manager prompt me to.
[06:06] <Brack10> furuno: you reffered me to the channel guidelines
[06:06] <Troy1> im new to linux/ubuntu, i'm having trouble installing, flash player, java and nvidia drivers
[06:06] <Troy1> can someone point me in the right direction?
[06:06] <Brack10> Gumby: You need to install a VPN client
[06:06] <Brack10> Gumby: OpenVPN for instance
[06:06] <Gumby> Brack10: hrm,  I thought I had done that in the past.
[06:06] <rumpsy> Need to resove it with 30 min
[06:06] <furuno> Brack10, uh no, I invoke the "hello" command to answer your hi :D
[06:06] <Gumby> I'll look into that.  thanks
[06:06] <Brack10> oh ok
[06:06] <Fizix> Troy1, you'll want to download ubuntu restricted extras and it'll give you flash and hava among other things
[06:07] <furuno> mah2223, well, since it's probably a filesystem error, and since that's NTFS, I suppose that windows is better at handling those :D
[06:07] <Fizix> Troy1, then go to System->Administrator->Hardware Drivers and it'll scan it for you and allow you to download, install and activate the drivers
[06:07] <Troy1> okay thank you's
[06:07] <d6chung> I'm starting to think I may have a hardware issue... everything in software looks fine. The meters are registering some noise and the clicks as I pull cables in and out. I seem to have lost the connection between the mic and the mixer...
[06:07] <TubbyNinja> !runlevels
[06:07] <rumpsy> What might be the error?
[06:07] <Brack10> ok also
[06:07] <mah2223> you're saying i should like get help from windows people? that makes sense
[06:08] <Brack10> my CPU keeps spiking to 100%.  Is there an easy way to figure out which process it is?
[06:08] <furuno> mah2223, no, chkdsk should be able to fix it, have similiar problem in the past
[06:08] <rocdoc> Brack10: top
[06:08] <d6chung> Brack10: top
[06:08] <rumpsy> apt-get is not working properly to me
[06:08] <mah2223> cool, thanks a lot
[06:08] <Satzo> Brack10, system monitor if u prefer gui
[06:08] <furuno> Brack10, use the System Monitor from System > Admin > System Monitor
[06:08] <rumpsy> during processing mysql-server i got serious errors
[06:09] <Troy1> okay it found a driver for my video card, but it says this(SystemError: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock)
[06:09] <mah2223> if not i was thinking about just removing everything else from the partition, formating it with fat32, and moving everything back
[06:09] <Brack10> I keep seeing the spikes on the graph but when I look at the process list sorted by CPU%, I don't see the culprit
[06:09] <mah2223> thats a good plan, right?
[06:09] <furuno> mah2223, what? I don't think you need to reformat...
[06:09] <rocdoc> Brack10: watch "top" carefully for a while...
[06:09] <d6chung> Brack10: Take a look at the process' CPU time usage. Sort the list by that to see who uses the most CPU.
[06:09] <furuno> mah2223, it just some corrupt file
[06:10] <Troy1> okay it found a driver for my video card, but it says this(SystemError: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock)
[06:10] <Brack10> d6chung: ok, does top auto sort by cpu?
[06:10] <furuno> Troy1, are you running apt-get alongside it?
[06:10] <mah2223> oh, that's right i didnt tell you
[06:10] <mah2223> its REALLY BIG
[06:10] <Troy1> i dont know, probly not
[06:10] <mah2223> its like 200 gigs lol
[06:10] <furuno> mah2223, well, mine's 1 TB :D
[06:10] <d6chung> I think top does by CPU percentage at the time of reading.
[06:11] <Brack10> ok figured it out
[06:11] <Brack10> it's xorg
[06:11] <rumpsy> this was my error while starting mysql-server invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[06:11] <mah2223> lol
[06:11] <Brack10> new question:  Xorg is spiking my CPU usage up to 100%, how could I begin to troubleshoot that?
[06:11] <rocdoc> Brack10: if xorg check compiz settings and desktop effects BS.
[06:11] <furuno> mah2223, just be patient, go eat or do something else when it's checking
[06:11] <rumpsy> How to clear that error, how can i start mysql-server
[06:11] <Brack10> rocdoc: all disabled
[06:11] <furuno> Brack10, what are you doing?
[06:12] <Troy1> umm whats apt-get and how do i run it beside it?
[06:12] <rocdoc> Brack10: I assume you have the correct video driver loaded?
[06:12] <furuno> Brack10, compiz effects usually have their own process (compiz)
[06:12] <Brack10> furuno: nothing, it started happening since I updated to latest kernel in my repos
[06:12] <mah2223> yeah thats what im doing, im actually going to go to bed and see how it went in the morning- im asking you about my plan b though if checkdisk doesn't work because you probably won't be around in like 8 hours
[06:12] <Brack10> I have nvidia beta drivers
[06:12] <Brack10> 190
[06:12] <Troy1> brack10, how did you install them?
[06:12] <furuno> Troy1, apt-get is a command line command (meh :D) for install app
[06:12] <Brack10> Troy1: PPA launchpad repos
[06:12] <mah2223> and fat32 is better right? like i feel like i wouldnt have this problem on fat32
[06:12] <Brack10> but they worked fine until I updated my kernel
[06:13] <furuno> mah2223, no, NTFS is much better
[06:13] <mneptok> furuno: please do not diss the command line.
[06:13] <Brack10> I guess I could just set my old kernel to boot
[06:13] <Brack10> in grub
[06:13] <furuno> mah2223, (actually ext4 :/)
[06:13] <furuno> mneptok, what I mean by meh is the phrase "a command line command"
[06:13] <mah2223> yeah but i need something windows can see
[06:13] <furuno> mah2223, NTFS definitely
[06:14] <mah2223> do you mind telling me why?
[06:14] <brando753> guys i need to edit a video in ubuntu with a green screen, i was using Kdenlive but it crashes every 5 min, any other programs i could use?
[06:14] <mneptok> furuno: apt-get is actually a command line application ;)
[06:14] <furuno> mah2223, well, is there any better windows file system :D
[06:14] <mneptok> mah2223: FAT32 is better in that it is far more widely understood than is NTFS
[06:15] <mah2223> well the reason i got the impression fat32 is better for non-active partitions is because thats how all like, pendrives and stuff like that come formated
[06:15] <mneptok> mah2223: they come like that because FAT32 is far better understood ... yadda yadda
[06:15] <mah2223> oh, okay, i see
[06:15] <keiya> mah2223: That's not because it's 'better' (though DO NOT reformat those, the file systems on those are tweaked to work with the flash chips nicely)
[06:16] <keiya> It's because everything since DOS came out can read it.
[06:16] <mneptok> keiya: not true.
[06:16] <mneptok> keiya: FAT32 debuted with Windows 95
[06:16] <keiya> mneptok: Okay, I was exaggerating a bit, but still, it's widespread.
[06:16] <furuno> mah2223, well, I think that NTFS has *much* better reliability than FAT32
[06:16] <mneptok> furuno: not in Linux it doesn't
[06:16] <mah2223> ok, got it, thanks a lot
[06:17] <furuno> mneptok, in Windows world, of course :)
[06:17] <mah2223> i'll reformat with ntfs then if this process fails
[06:17] <keiya> NTFS is better, from the Windows side. I'm not sure how well the linux drivers are now, but they seem to be mostly stable
[06:17] <mneptok> furuno: check the name of the channel we're in ;)
[06:17] <flan_suse> ntfs-3g is fine.
[06:17] <troy1_> furuno you said something about apt-get how do i run that?
[06:17] <furuno> mneptok, hmm it says Ubuntu, is that some kind of grilled meat? :D
[06:17] <mneptok> mah2223: this partition/drive you're formatting. what is its purpose?
[06:17] <Miansc> anyone know a boot manager... apart from grub
[06:18] <mneptok> Miansc: Lilo
[06:18] <furuno> Troy1, from the Terminal type sudo apt-get install <program_name_you_want_to_install>
[06:18] <mah2223> ok so i have a windows install and an ubuntu install and im working on an osx install
[06:18] <brando753> guys i need to edit a video in ubuntu with a green screen, i was using Kdenlive but it crashes every 5 min, any other programs i could use?
[06:18] <mah2223> and this partition is like a big auxillary thing that i want them to all be able to read
[06:18] <mneptok> mah2223: FAT32
[06:18] <furuno> Miansc, the windows bootloader :D
[06:19] <mneptok> mah2223: full stop.
[06:19] <Miansc> how do i install, lol i hate windows!
[06:19] <mah2223> hah really??
[06:19] <khensthoth> brando753: Try Openshot
[06:19] <mneptok> mah2223: yes, really.
[06:19] <mah2223> why do you say that now?
[06:19] <mneptok> mah2223: i never said anything different
[06:19] <mah2223> oh okay
[06:19] <furuno> Miansc, from what I know, there's only GRUB/ GRUB2, and LiLo
[06:20] <furuno> Miansc, maybe somebody will create Stitch someday
[06:20] <mah2223> that's right actually, because osx can't read ntfs can it
[06:20] <Miansc> how do u install lilo?
[06:20] <Miansc> can i install it from windows? cause i cant see ubuntu atm -.-
[06:20] <mneptok> mah2223: no, IIRC, it cannot.
[06:20] <Miansc> furno: LOL
[06:20] <khensthoth> Miansc: What problem are you having with grub/ grub2?
[06:21] <furuno> Miansc, try this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:21] <Miansc> it broke on me
[06:21] <Miansc> i couldnt fix.. took all day for me to remove it
[06:21] <Miansc> ty ;)
[06:21] <mneptok> Miansc: all day? and replace it with what?
[06:21] <Miansc> nothing at the moment
[06:21] <Miansc> ive been in this irc since about 9AM
[06:22] <Miansc> trying things
[06:22] <Miansc> under the name of: ItOver lol
[06:22] <Miansc> cause i was overit hahahahahah
[06:22] <mneptok> Miansc: get an Ubuntu CD, boot off it, and fix the MBR according to one of the many tutorials
[06:22] <mneptok> !grub | Miansc
[06:23] <Miansc> ahk
[06:23] <furuno> ...
[06:23] <Miansc> ??
[06:24] <furuno> 30 minute until my boss came back :D
[06:24] <Miansc> lol, how old are you?
[06:24] <Satzo> Miansc, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[06:24] <asmodeus_> FloodBot3, hello bot
[06:24] <Satzo> incase you dont want to download an .iso for ubuntu
[06:24] <Miansc> satzo: Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later.
[06:24] <aSt3raL> anyone know how i can set up a giganews vpn with ubuntu?
[06:24] <furuno> 26
[06:25] <furuno> or so it seems :D
[06:25] <Satzo> giganews offers vpn?
[06:25] <aSt3raL> yeah
[06:25] <Satzo> whats wrong with ssh?
[06:25] <Satzo> or this for browsing too?
[06:25] <aSt3raL> its for everything
[06:26] <Satzo> i see now .. reading up :)
[06:26] <aSt3raL> i installed open vpn
[06:26] <aSt3raL> i dunno what to do now though
[06:27] <asmodeus_> @lart aSt3raL
[06:27] <aSt3raL> huh?
[06:27] <bazhang> !ot | asmodeus_
[06:28] <aSt3raL> am i off topic?
[06:28] <bazhang> aSt3raL, not you
[06:28] <mneptok> aSt3raL: did you subscribe to the VyperVPN service?
[06:28] <aSt3raL> kk
[06:28] <aSt3raL> yeah
[06:28] <aSt3raL> and it works in windows
[06:29] <Satzo> i see it doesnt list linux as a supported OS
[06:29] <mneptok> aSt3raL: then i would contact their technical support team and ask how to set it up. you're a paying customer.
[06:29] <aSt3raL> giga news doesnt have an easy ubuntu thing
[06:29] <Miansc> satzo:
[06:29] <Miansc> the site is down?
[06:29] <aSt3raL> ok
[06:29] <aSt3raL> you guys dont know how?
[06:30] <aSt3raL> i know ubuntu pretty well but not really vpn
[06:30] <troy1_> umm, why cant i type in terminal?
[06:30] <Satzo> Miansc, it wasnt a few hours ago
[06:30] <mneptok> aSt3raL: is it an IPSec or PPPtP type VPN?
[06:31] <Malvulio> hello
[06:31] <ardchoille> troy1_: are you runnin an app/command?
[06:31] <furuno> !hi | Malvulio
[06:31] <aSt3raL> i think its PPtP
[06:31] <Miansc> its bak :D
[06:31] <aSt3raL> like i said im new to vpn
[06:31] <troy1_> i have no clue
[06:31] <troy1_> i;m only new to ubuntu
[06:31] <troy1_> i'm
[06:31] <mneptok> aSt3raL: "i think" doesn't count. no one can help you if you're guessing. ;)  this is why i think it best you contact GigaNews.
[06:31] <ardchoille> troy1_: if it's gnome terminal, you can open a new tab and type in that: File > Open tab
[06:31] <furuno> troy1_, try pressing CTRL+C and try to type again
[06:32] <aSt3raL> mneptok, k thanks
[06:32] <aSt3raL> just curious what do you think about encrypted vpns?
[06:32] <troy1_> furuno, that worked but i need to type my password in but it wont let me
[06:33] <aSt3raL> if it was free
[06:33] <furuno> troy1_, uh yeah, your password is hidden
[06:33] <Satzo> id use a free one
[06:33] <furuno> troy1_, just type it and press enter
[06:33] <furuno> troy1_, it's normall
[06:33] <troy1_> lol okay, made myself look like and idiot
[06:33] <Malvulio> I have a weird bug that I am wondering if anyone has heard of, running ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop.  When I am typing, mostly in pidgin, but also here and elsewhere, the curser will move by itself to a place back in the typed text while Im typing, and sometimes it even switches program windows entirely.  any ideas?  thanks!
[06:33] <Satzo> i wouldnt pay for it tho...unless i was travelling abroad or working from home on sensitive projects.
[06:33] <aSt3raL> k thanks
[06:33] <Satzo> Malvulio, have you swapped keyboards?
[06:33] <furuno> Malvulio, focused on a specific command (e.g. OK button) ?
[06:34] <Satzo> Malvulio, if it is a USB keyboard, try another port
[06:34] <Malvulio> its a laptop
[06:34] <Satzo> ah
[06:34] <Satzo> is your palm hitting the right mouse button?
[06:34] <Satzo> i had that on a certain laptop... screwed me up until i took my palm off the console
[06:35] <mneptok> troy1_: i'm standing behind you, looking over you shoulder, and now i know your password because it just appeared on the screen as you typed it. oh, wait ....   ;)
[06:35] <Malvulio> I havent been able to locate any specific key that causes it.  I thought it was the touchpad also and experimented, its not it. I can even type slowly with one finger and it will have that weird bug, it seems random
[06:36] <flan_suse> Malvulio, happens to me too, on any laptop. As I'm typing, my palm hits the touchpad sometimes.
[06:36] <flan_suse> Oh.
[06:36] <furuno> hmm... don't count me on this, but I suspect water :D
[06:36] <flan_suse> Muhammad,  it will move the mouse cursor?
[06:37] <Guest27775> I just installed Ubuntu 9.1. Mac ppc G5. os 10.5.8 on seperate partition. I can't connect to wireless internet. I checked 'hardware drivers' and installed Broadcom B43 but still can't connect unless wired to router. Am I missing something?
[06:37] <flan_suse> Malvulio, not Muhammad.
[06:37] <furuno> huh, 10.5.8?
[06:37] <Muhammad> flan_suse, btw i've waken up :)
[06:37] <Malvulio> I dont think so, the curser seems to disappear when Im typing
[06:37] <furuno> oh nvm
[06:37] <flan_suse> Guest27775, you tried rebooting?
[06:37] <Guest27775> yes... 10.5.8 on a mac
[06:37] <Guest27775> yes I have Flan
[06:38] <flan_suse> Malvulio, check the Accessibility settings, and/or the Keyboard settings.
[06:38] <Guest27775> I'm a noob. The Broadcom driver is the only solution I've seen on forums.
[06:38] <flan_suse> Malvulio, there might be something like "sticky keys" enabled by accident.
[06:38] <brando753> khensthoth: thamks so much
[06:38] <Malvulio> ok, Ill check that, thanks
[06:39] <khensthoth> brando753: Openshot works fine for you? I haven't used it actually
[06:39] <Fatty> neck fatty
[06:39] <fatty> sorry... typing error
[06:39] <flan_suse> Guest27775, how many drivers did it list for you to use for the Broadcom?
[06:39] <furuno> ...
[06:39] <furuno> lol
[06:39] <Satzo> Guest27775, consider wicd too
[06:39] <Guest71534> Flan... just the B43 Wireless Driver
[06:40] <Guest71534> Satzo, wicd?
[06:40] <flan_suse> Guest71534, are you Guest27775?
[06:40] <Guest71534> flan.. sorry :P
[06:41] <brando753> khensthoth: perfect, the only one that HAS worked without crashing, thanks, even has ChromaKey
[06:41] <flan_suse> Guest71534, can't say much, but I use the Broadcom b43 driver on 9.10 and it worked fine after rebooting. But my system is x86, not PPC.
[06:41] <Satzo> !info wicd | Guest27775
[06:41] <khensthoth> brando753: Cool. =)
[06:43] <Guest71534> Ubottu.. I'll check. ty.
[06:43] <Guest71534> and my nick keeps changing
[06:43] <furuno> ...hmm
[06:43] <furuno> Guest71534, try registering
[06:43] <Guest71534> ah. that might help
[06:44] <Malvulio> hmm no sticky keys or anything
[06:44] <flan_suse> Malvulio, this only happens on Ubuntu?
[06:44] <Malvulio> yes
[06:45] <Malvulio> inside-windows dual boot, no problems in windows
[06:46] <flan_suse> Malvulio, hm, not too sure, to be honest. Did you try booting in "safe mode"?
[06:46] <cetanu> hello all
[06:46] <furuno> !hi | cetanu
[06:46] <flan_suse> Malvulio, happens on any Linux distro, or just Ubuntu?
[06:47] <cetanu> ta
[06:48] <cetanu> before i bug someone with questions in here, is there any documentation on how to fix a blank screen on a new lappy?
[06:48] <Malvulio> Ive only tried this one
[06:48] <flan_suse> Malvulio, this is version 9.10?
[06:48] <Malvulio> .04
[06:48] <flan_suse> Malvulio, well, you can try booting a LiveCD of 9.10 and see if the problem goes away.
[06:48] <furuno> cetanu, totally blank from the beginning? or just happened recently?
[06:49] <flan_suse> Malvulio, and if it seems alright, and everything else works fine, you can go ahead and just install 9.10. (Did you already save a lot of settings and files on 9.04?)
[06:50] <Malvulio> I would like to try that, but I dont have th ebandwidth for getting one currently.  ill keep digging in the forums I guess, ill just have to figure out the right keywords, heh.  thanks for your help.
[06:50] <flan_suse> Malvulio, wish I knew how to fix it.
[06:50] <itek1970> hey ya'll
[06:50] <flan_suse> Malvulio, you're right. It's hard to know the words to use to search for help.
[06:50] <ardchoille> cetanu: Looks like some good info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X
[06:50] <itek1970> anyone have any idea what i can do regarding my audio, it goes on and off but nothing stable... check this :  pulseaudio[4492]: sink-input.c: Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink.
[06:51] <cetanu> ardchoille, so i'd boot into the command line mode and try to config that then i guess?
[06:51] <furuno> cetanu, if you already running a default config, I don't think it will work
[06:51] <ardchoille> cetanu: Not sure, I'm not the best with xorg, just referring you to docs that may help
[06:51] <Tie35> Anyone ever had a problem with using an AIM account on Pidgin and getting kicked out of AIM-made group chats? It says "You have been disconnected from chat room !aol://[chat room number]"
[06:52] <furuno> cetanu, I believe that UNR use a specialized driver, instead of general driver in the standard edition, can you specify your laptop model?
[06:52] <furuno> cetanu, since there's something like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[06:53] <cetanu> i'm actually using a notebook, Lenovo g550L
[06:54] <furuno> cetanu, hmm, try using the standard edition instead?
[06:54] <itek1970> anyone have any idea what i can do regarding my audio, it goes on and off but nothing stable... check this :  pulseaudio[4492]: sink-input.c: Failed to create sink input: too many inputs per sink.
[06:54] <furuno> cetanu, if you want more speed, you can use LXDE / Openbox instead of Gnome/KDE
[06:55] <cetanu> standard works, but only with kernel 28-11
[06:55] <cetanu> and i cant get touchpad / synaptics working
[06:55] <furuno> cetanu, 9.04 / 9.10 ?
[06:55] <ronguino> Hi!. I've got a trouble with the driver of a ATI Radeon 9600 on Ubuntu Karmic. Could anyone help me?
[06:55] <cetanu> 9.04 works fine actually. i might have to resort to reinstalling, but i like a challenge also lol
[06:55] <cetanu> 9.10 is the one im having troubles with
[06:56] <furuno> cetanu, well, I'm also still on 9.04 :D, 9.10 is just kinda problematic
[06:56] <cetanu> Yeah I may have to just revert. there's no real harm in it i suppose.
[06:58] <zortec> hello guys, so I know that ubuntu 10.04 is 4 months away, but I would like to upgrade and have some questions: is there a huge difference between 32-bit and 64-bit? if you go 32 or 64 bit, should you stick with ext3 and not ext4?  how is the upgrade process? I want to do a fresh install of ubuntu
[06:59] <furuno> zortec, 32-bit is limited to 4 GB of RAM, 64-bit is not
[06:59] <furuno> zortec, and ext4 is already quite stable I believe
[06:59] <zortec> furuno: I have 2.93 GB of RAM currently
[07:00] <zortec> furuno: not counting what is used for my graphics card
[07:00] <furuno> zortec, well, there's no harm using 64-bit thought
[07:00] <Satzo> zortec, if u prefer a fresh install, why wonder about the upgrade process?
[07:00] <itek1970> iam fairly new to ubuntu(linux in general)... anyone have any idea how i can prevent from firefox to constantly crash on me? i usually have just a tab open but it loves to simply crash
[07:00] <zortec> Satzo: because I am wondering about both actually, lol
[07:00] <q0_0p> if i have a windows server 2003 can i easily use dd to clone the harddrive?
[07:00] <q0_0p> dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hda3
[07:00] <zortec> Satzo: but my thought process is if I go to 9.10, I should do a fresh install since that only seems the best way to do it
[07:00] <furuno> zortec, well, graphic memory have nothing to do with your system memory
[07:01] <furuno> itek1970, bad sites? bad flash?
[07:01] <zortec> furuno: it's an integrated graphics card so it does take from system memory
[07:01] <daf_> is there someone here who is familiar with bluetooth headset setup in karmic? I've tried this three times and really need help. I've tried using pacmd and pactl and both give a "module load failed"
[07:01] <Guest50458> Hi .. Could you help me to fix the mic
[07:01] <furuno> zortec, oh i see
[07:01] <itek1970>  furuno: its crashed on me by simply being on google, i am running 9.10
[07:02] <itek1970> i have that issue and the audio issue, other than that i love this OS
[07:02] <furuno> itek1970,  audio in 9.10 is kinda problematic :D
[07:02] <zortec> the last advice I got was to wait for lucid lynx to come out, but I like to run the latest versions of software which is probably why I'm etching to get 9.10 installed
[07:02] <furuno> itek1970, thats why I'd stick with 9.04
[07:02] <itek1970> you know what, it might be bad flash, i shall reinstall... and yes the audio is not kinda problematic, it just sucks  hahaha
[07:02] <itek1970>  furuno: i shall downgrade then =(
[07:02] <khensthoth> Guest50458: What's wrong with your mic?
[07:03] <Satzo> zortec, fair enough :)
[07:03] <zortec> I can "upgrade" from 9.04 to 9.10 or do a fresh install to take advantage of ext4, but how stable is ext4? there have been problems reported with the 64 bit version
[07:03] <Guest50458> it is not working. I am newly upgrade to 9.10
[07:03] <furuno> zortec, ext4 is quite stable on me
[07:03] <zortec> but since I only have 3 GB of RAM I'm not sure that I should be considering the 64 bit version quite yet
[07:03] <Guest50458> there is no option for mic boost
[07:03] <furuno> zortec, altough on Arch x64
[07:04] <furuno> Guest50458, try typing alsamixer in the terminal
[07:04] <khensthoth> Guest50458: Have you tried selecting the correct device in Sound Preferences, and check if the volume is muted there?
[07:04] <Guest50458> It is not muted
[07:04] <Guest50458> Let me try alsamixer
[07:04] <furuno> zortec, well, another 1 GB is pretty cheap, you know :D
[07:04] <daf_> is there another IRC channel for more technical issues with bluetooth/Karmic?
[07:05] <zortec> furuno: true, but is there a big difference in 64 bit and 32 bit?
[07:05] <furuno> zortec, only the memory address limitation
[07:05] <Guest74457> !Karmic
[07:05] <zetheroo> why is my webcam suddenly extremely dark in Karmic?
[07:05] <zetheroo> it was a great image in Jaunty and Intrepid
[07:06] <Guest50458> increased
[07:06] <zortec> furuno: and cpu intensive tasks take advantage of 64 bit processing?
[07:06] <Ademan> how can i find out what host each key in ~/.ssh/known_hosts refers to? (i have two conflicting host keys, and want to figure out what the "original" key is/was to)
[07:06] <ronguino> I've got a trouble with the driver of a ATI Radeon 9600 on Ubuntu Karmic. Could anyone help me?
[07:07] <furuno> zortec, well, most CPU are 64-bit nowadays, but I don't see considerable performance gain from a same system in 32-bit and 64-bit mode (for something with < 4 GB RAM)
[07:07] <Ademan> ronguino: certainly, but you need to give us more information, what have you done? what happened? and what did you expect to happen instead?
[07:07] <ronguino> Ademan: thank you
[07:07] <furuno> zortec, depending on what will you do, 8 GB or 12 GB might be advantageous, e.g. 3D modelling, heavy 2D editing, etc
[07:07] <Ademan> zetheroo: make and model of webcam? the first thing i'd do with that information is look and see if it's a known issue
[07:08] <zortec> furuno: ok thanks for your help, what about doing a standard upgrade vs a fresh install of 9.10?
[07:08] <ronguino> Ademan: I've installed the non privative drivers and sometimes I can activate the desktop effects, and sometimes don't. Just rebooting
[07:08] <Usuario-venenux3> thats anyone know how to install flash on a live edition__
[07:08] <zortec> furuno: I'm just a casual desktop user, not into modeling or animation, or anything video heavy :)
[07:08] <zetheroo> Ademan: its a Philips webcam - like I said ... its worked great in previous releases ...
[07:08] <furuno> zortec, I prefer fresh, altough I don't quite fond of 9.10 (still sticking to 9.04)
[07:08] <Guest50458> i have increased the mic volume .. still it is not working
[07:08] <BlueX12> can someone recommend a gui irc client other than quassel?
[07:08] <zortec> furuno: why are you sticking to 9.04?
[07:08] <furuno> BlueX12, Xchat
[07:08] <Ademan> zortec: it can never hurt to try an upgrade first, but my experience has been (largely) negative with upgrades, but if you have a failed upgrade, you can just go and do a fresh install
[07:09] <zetheroo> Ademan:  Bus 004 Device 002: ID 04fc:0561 Sunplus Technology Co., Ltd Flexcam 100
[07:09] <furuno> zortec, may reasons :D
[07:09] <BlueX12> k thanks
[07:09] <zetheroo> Ademan: as far as I know this is a fully supported device in Ubuntu ... and its working ... just too dark to be of any use
[07:09] <Ademan> zetheroo: there may have been a regression, maybe one with a workaround, i'd take that lspci info and start googling, unfortunately i personally can't help you beyond that
[07:09] <furuno> zortec, #1 GRUB2 is slow recognizing my drives, #2 sound is bad, #3 not as stable as 9.04
[07:09] <Usuario-venenux3> can anyone tell me how to install flash on a live edition cd
[07:09] <Ademan> zetheroo: maybe something gamma related
[07:10] <zortec> Ademan: but if I do an upgrade, the machine is not going to gain a performance increase if I was to do a fresh install?
[07:10] <cbojar> hi, can anyone help me with some issues with sreadahead/ureadahead?
[07:10] <zortec> furuno: so you suggest I check if my hardware is going to be compatible with ubuntu 9.10 first?
[07:10] <Ademan> ronguino: privative driver? restricted driver? anyways if it's spotty, you might check dmesg and /var/log/syslog and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what happened (when it breaks)
[07:11] <Ademan> zortec: what sort of performance increase are you expecting?
[07:11] <rashed2020> Has anyone here tried installing .NET?
[07:11] <furuno> zortec, compatibility should be as good as 9.04, it's just that, it didn't work as well as in 9.04, still working tought
[07:11] <ronguino> Ademan: non privative driver on Ubuntu Karmik
[07:11] <zortec> Ademan: 5-10% in drive reading times
[07:11] <furuno> rashed2020, try the Mono framework instead?
[07:12] <zetheroo> Ademan: yes - is there a way to manipulate the gamma settings for a webcam manually?
[07:12] <furuno> zortec, performance is quite good on 9.10, boot time is excellent, BUT GRUB2 loadtime is awful, so I blame GRUB2
[07:12] <rashed2020> furuno: Won't work. Says something about ole32.dll. I haven't looked into it yet, I figured I'd try .NET first.
[07:12] <furuno> rashed2020, huh .dll, what are you trying to do?
[07:13] <zortec> furuno: what do you mean by GRUB2 loadtime?  is there a way to fix that?
[07:13] <Gryph> has anyone found a way to remote desktop through ANY remote network (IE TeamViewer for windoze)?? any help is greatly appreciated
[07:13] <Rajasun> rashed2020: there's an open source (ostensibly) implementation call Mono in case you are unaware. See http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
[07:13] <Ademan> zortec: well that is likely going to be a result of the new kernel, or maybe the new filesystem (ext4), if it's the kernel, an upgrade will get it for you, if it's ext4 you'd need a fresh install (so that you can use ext4)
[07:13] <furuno> zortec, the first screen before the OS selection screen says : GRUB2 Loading... is painfully long (10 secs or so)
[07:13] <Seveas> rashed2020, Mono is an implementation of the .net framework that works under linux. The microsoft implementation of .net does not work. Also, ole32.dll is not a .net library
[07:13] <BlueX12> I've noticed firefox and other apps are ugly and gray, how to help their appearance?
[07:13] <furuno> zortec, while the GRUB legacy didn't even take 1 sec
[07:14] <furuno> BlueX12, install new theme?
[07:14] <wanted> furuno: download the grub editor and change the time
[07:14] <Ademan> BlueX12: system->preferences->appearance
[07:14] <zortec> Ademan: if I upgrade, will I be able to go back to 9.04 if I want?
[07:14] <furuno> wanted, not the wait time to choose the OS -_-a
[07:14] <BlueX12> furuno, I installed like 4 different themes, didn't do anything
[07:14] <Ademan> zortec: that would require a fresh install to revert
[07:14] <furuno> BlueX12, go to http://gnome-look.org
[07:14] <zortec> Ademan: that is quite a decision to make... hmm
[07:14] <Ademan> BlueX12: you need a theme engine to run certain themes, are they murrine? or aurora themes?
[07:14] <Rajasun> BlueX12: if u have used firefox on windows before, u will understand there is such a thing as themes other than extensions for the browser right?
[07:15] <ronguino> ademan: I'm beginner.. what should I look for?
[07:15] <BlueX12> oh
[07:15] <Rajasun> BlueX12: as for themes to your desktop, check out places like www.gnome-look.org, deviantart and guistyles
[07:15] <BlueX12> firefox browser themes work in linnux?
[07:15] <frank_b> hi everyone. is there any command that I can use to rename all my files (at the same time) ending in .asf to make them end in .wmv?
[07:15] <furuno> BlueX12, of course :D
[07:15] <tophu> I can't wait for the chome browser on linux ^_^
[07:16] <Ademan> ronguino: in /var/log/Xorg.0.log any line that starts with (EE) is an error, and worth looking into
[07:16] <BlueX12> cool
[07:16] <milo> do anyone know how to uncompress tar.gz cuz every time i do it i get a error
[07:16] <Seveas> frank_b, rename 's/.asf$/.wmw/' *.asf
[07:16] <furuno> BlueX12, just a suggestion, but the murrine themes are pretty cool
[07:16] <Ademan> milo: what error do you get?
[07:16] <Rajasun> BlueX12: a number of the firefox developers run Linux or BSDs both at work and home, so what do u think?
[07:16] <zortec> milo: tar -xvzf
[07:16] <frogzoo> milo tar zxf blah.tgz
[07:16] <milo> already tried that
[07:16] <Ademan> furuno: i'm pretty sure the issue is he's missing the theme engine for whatever themes he's got
[07:16] <BlueX12> do they work in kde also? the themes
[07:16] <furuno> milo, tar xvf somefile.tar.gz
[07:16] <BlueX12> and how come themes don't change the wallpaper
[07:16] <frank_b> Seveas, thank you very much :)
[07:16] <Gryph> has anyone found a way to remote desktop through ANY remote network (IE TeamViewer for windoze)?? any help is greatly appreciated :)
[07:16] <milo> one sec i post past bin link
[07:16] <cbojar> can anyone offer any assistance with sreadahead/ureadahead?
[07:16] <furuno> BlueX12, are you using KDE?
[07:17] <furuno> BlueX12, Gnome theme cannot be used in KDE
[07:17] <BlueX12> yes and its buggy
[07:17] <tophu> what does the xvf stand for in that command
[07:17] <tophu> I never did understand that
[07:17] <Ademan> BlueX12: themes are only for one component of the GUI, you can change the background yourself (in system->preferences->appearance)
[07:17] <daf_> Ok, I've made progress I can play an audio file through mplayer using -ao alsa:device=bluetooth
[07:17] <furuno> BlueX12, for KDE, go to kde-looks.org
[07:17] <zortec> reading about the changes in ubuntu 9.10 over 9.04... so ext4 will not be available and grub2?
[07:17] <Seveas> !themes | BlueX12
[07:17] <zortec> unless I do a fresh install that is
[07:17] <daf_> but I get an error using pactl load-module module-alsa-sing device=bluetooth
[07:17] <BlueX12> wow
[07:17] <apocalypt> Gryph: what u want to do
[07:17] <furuno> BlueX12, Firefox is a Gnome app, so it won't look that great in KDE
[07:17] <daf_> sink
[07:17] <Rajasun> BlueX12: your wallpaper and theme analogy is akin to why when I have my tooth fixed at a dentist ain't my headache cured..
[07:17] <Seveas> zortec, they will be available but not used by default if you so an update instead of a fresh install.
[07:18] <ronguino> Ademan: (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI.
[07:18] <milo> ok here is the error i am getting http://pastebin.com/m561015e4
[07:18] <tophu> anyone know a good free proxy that works well with xchat?
[07:18] <Rajasun> firefox ain't a gnome/gtk app
[07:18] <Ademan> ronguino: that's exactly what's causing your issues :-) you need DRI for advanced graphics like desktop effects
[07:18] <zortec> Seveas: if I want to explore those features, where can I get help? :)
[07:18] <furuno> Rajasun, I mean, it use GTK+
[07:18] <Ademan> ronguino: now to figure out what's causing *that* ;-)
[07:18] <Seveas> Rajasun, it may not be gnome but it definitely uses gtk
[07:18] <Rajasun> it doesn't
[07:18] <furuno> ...
[07:18] <wanted> hey guys i got one problem, i hear my own voice in my head phone which i speak in my mic, so please to some thing for this, i also tried the alsa drivers for my audio driver,but still its the geeky way, so some help
[07:18] <tophu> I made the mistake of going onto dalnet last night and I think someone tried packeting me for like an hour ... lol my uverse trumped their pathetic cable but still it concerns me
[07:18] <Seveas> zortec, google / help.ubuntu.com :)
[07:19] <Gryph> i want to punch thru our rouge wireless router to manage our rouge 9.10 server from home
[07:19] <Seveas> !ext4
[07:19] <ronguino> Ademan: Excuse me, what means DRI?
[07:19] <khensthoth> wanted: Have you tried turning down the Mic volume in the Playback Tab in alsamixer?
[07:19] <Seveas> !grub2
[07:19] <MeatPopsicle> can an ad hoc network be used to share an internet connection?
[07:19] <tophu> !proxy
[07:19] <frogzoo> milo that's a completely different command line command you have there
[07:19] <Ademan> ronguino: "direct rendering interface" it allows programs to directly use your graphics card (more or less)
[07:19] <apocalypt> Gryph: ssh is what u are looking for
[07:19] <Rajasun> there r themes to make it fit into GNOME environment yeah but the actual browser that comes with stock GNOME is epiphany not firefox
[07:20] <milo> ok what should i be typeing
[07:20] <frank_b> Seveas, it worked. I know have all my (very big) video archive renamed the way I want to. thank you very much once again. :)
[07:20] <frogzoo> milo 'mv pdragon.tar.gz pdragon.tgz; tar zxf pdragon.tgz"
[07:20] <Ademan> milo: you know that you can uncompress tar.gz files from the GUI incredibly easily right?
[07:20] <frogzoo> boo :p
[07:20] <frank_b> Seveas, take care
[07:20] <Ademan> frogzoo: er, what? why'd you rename it?... lol
[07:20] <zortec> Seveas: so do you recommend I try an upgrade first or just do a fresh install?
[07:21] <milo> Ademan i do not have xwindows on that server
[07:21] <Gryph> kinda but i would also like a gui. but also ssh from out side the network would be a good start
[07:21] <ronguino> Ademan: And how can I solve?, because sometimes the system gets DRI (just rebooting or reinstalling the drivers and reconfiguring xserver-xorg)
[07:21] <Ademan> frogzoo: also 'z' is no longer needed ;-)
[07:21] <Gambit-> Anyone want to help me figure out how to get virt-create to play nicely with qemu overlay disks?
[07:21] <Ademan> ronguino: is it maybe that you lose DRI when you get a new kernel?
[07:21] <apocalypt> Gryph: vnc is another way to do that
[07:21] <Ademan> ronguino: unfortunately i got rid of my ATI card because of linux support, so i can't help that much :-(
[07:22] <Seveas> zortec, whatever floats your boat. installing grub2 on an upgraded system is fairly easy. Taking advantage of ext4 is not as easy (you can turn your ext3 filesystem into an ext4 one, but for existing files that will not use ext4 features)
[07:22] <frogzoo> Ademan: you've never had tar whinge about missing extensions? ;P
[07:22] <MeatPopsicle> can an ad hoc network be used to share an internet connection?
[07:22] <Gryph> will that punch thru a locked down linksys?
[07:22] <bdfoster_iPhone> MeatPopsicle: yes
[07:22] <zortec> Seveas: for the average user, are there advantages to installing grub2 and ext4?
[07:22] <Ademan> frogzoo: :-p.  actually i assumed that tar used the magic number of the file to decide how to decompress, not the extension, but maybe you're right
[07:22] <erry> Hey any of you know any open source GPS receiver software?
[07:22] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster_iPhone: how does that work?
[07:23] <Seveas> zortec, not really
[07:23] <erry> for any distro
[07:23] <milo> frogzoo now i have a new error
[07:23] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster_iPhone: do you do it with your iphone?
[07:23] <apocalypt> Gryph: to get access from outside u allways need to open the ports on the router
[07:23] <bdfoster_iPhone> with PDAnet on my iPhone, yea
[07:23] <ronguino> Ademan: I've been reading a lot and from Ubuntu 9.4 there been much troubles with ATI. Some people solves configuring a xorg.conf (that I don't have) but this configuration depends on the model
[07:24] <frogzoo> Ademan: .tar.gz seems to work fine however, at least on koala
[07:24] <rfgergrthnre> I tried installing ubuntu 9.10 dualbooting with Windows 7 Home Basic, but the grub bootloader doesn't show when I boot up
[07:24] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster_iPhone: is it easy to setup?
[07:24] <Ademan> rfgergrthnre: did you install windows 7 after ubuntu?
[07:24] <frogzoo> milo do I get to guess what it is?
[07:24] <bdfoster_iPhone> yes, lemme get in front of ubuntu in a sec
[07:24] <Ademan> frogzoo: just get what's needed to ssh into the box and run the command yourself haha
[07:25] <Ademan> MeatPopsicle: are you bruce willis?
[07:25] <rfgergrthnre> Ademan, no, Windows first
[07:25] <MeatPopsicle> Ademan: why are you asking me that?
[07:25] <bdfoster_iPhone> MeatPopsicle: btw u have to have a jailbroken iPhone
[07:25] <milo> sorry take me a min to type all this in pastbin
[07:25] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster_iPhone: what's that/
[07:25] <MeatPopsicle> ?
[07:25] <bdfoster_iPhone> do u have an iPhone?
 have you ever used teamviewer?
[07:26] <Ademan> rfgergrthnre: interesting, that shouldn't be an issue, either way you can easily reinstall grub from a livecd
[07:26] <milo> http://pastebin.com/m55444abe
[07:26] <daf_> Ok, got it working thanks for everyone's help.
[07:26] <erry> i asked a wuestioon i believe
[07:26] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster_iPhone: i have a smartphone
[07:26] <MeatPopsicle> with windows mobile
[07:26] <apocalypt> Gryph: teamviewer is to get access to a windows machine
[07:26] <Ademan> MeatPopsicle: in "The Fifth Element" bruce willis states that he is not human, but instead a meat popsicle i thought maybe you were making a movie reference... hah
[07:26] <frogzoo> milo omg, someone's sent you a uuencoded file? this is very messed up
[07:26] <milo> ok
[07:27] <Ademan> frogzoo: HAHAHAHAHAAH
[07:27] <Gryph> its a great zeroconfig and im trying to find some that gets out like that
[07:27] <bdfoster_iPhone> idk about win mobile
[07:27] <rfgergrthnre> Ademan, I have no idea how to do that, and the forum/help pages might as well be written in an alien language
[07:27] <Mak_osbourne> Help me
[07:27] <milo> i have the origanl file on this linux computer but how can i move it to the other one
[07:27] <MeatPopsicle> what did he mean, "a meat popsicle", Ademan ?
[07:27] <cbojar> s/ureadahead anyone?
[07:27] <ltspadmin> hi
[07:27] <apocalypt> Gryph: if u are not able to open the ports on the remote side there is a "how to" to get access with an client on the remote system and the vnc server on your side
[07:27] <ltspadmin> how can i disable the sound at thin client ubuntu ltsp
[07:28] <ltspadmin> so i can increase the perfomance of thin client
[07:28] <rfgergrthnre> Ademan, everything with linux is an issue, everything is a headache, everything is long-way around, and trying to get help is painful because all linux l33t kids assume everyone else understands linux lingo
[07:28] <Ademan> MeatPopsicle: he was being sarcastic, he was asked "are you classified as human" when, of course, he clearly was, so he responded like that
[07:28] <Gryph> hmm got a link?
[07:28] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster_iPhone: what do i select as authentication? Open? Shared? or WPA-None?
[07:28] <bdfoster> MeatPopsicle, do you still want to know how to do it with ubuntu?
[07:28] <Ademan> rfgergrthnre: it is different... but the pain goes away, and things click, and you go "wow, this is *better*" or at least i did
[07:28] <frogzoo> Ademan: oh - base 64 is mime?
[07:28] <bdfoster> hang on
[07:29] <uwe> hi
[07:29] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster: yes
[07:29] <MeatPopsicle> and my smartphone
[07:29] <Ademan> frogzoo: are you asking if base 64 is a valid mime type?
[07:29] <bdfoster> setup an adhoc network
[07:29] <Ademan> frogzoo: have him run `file <whatever_friggin_file>`
[07:29] <MeatPopsicle> how
[07:29] <bdfoster> and idk how to do it with windows mobile, most of the config would be with the phone
[07:29] <frogzoo> welp, yeah
[07:30] <MeatPopsicle> what do you mean "most of the config would be with the phone"
[07:30] <bdfoster> you have to enable internet connection sharing, something that i dont know exists
[07:30] <frogzoo> milo run "file pdragon.tgz"
[07:30] <bdfoster> on windows mobile
[07:30] <MeatPopsicle> where? in ubuntu?
[07:30] <bdfoster> MeatPopsicle, on windows mobile
[07:30] <MeatPopsicle> where do i have to enable internet connection sharing?
[07:31] <apocalypt> Gryph: sorry i have to look for that how to
[07:31] <bdfoster> MeatPopsicle, i have no idea on windows mobile, i only use an iphone
[07:31] <Gryph> lol ok thanks this has been beating me down for some time now
[07:32] <milo> ok i did
[07:33] <bdfoster> MeatPopsicle, see what i mean?
[07:34] <bdfoster> if you can figure out that, then on the ubuntu box all you should have to do is connect to the device via adhoc
[07:34] <charred> Using ubuntu 9.10, dual-booting with win7 and worked perfectly. I updated ubuntu and plugged in an extra HD now grub will not boot windows 7, grub menu says it is /dev/sdc2 when it is /dev/sdc3, looking for a way to change it. update-grub and fdisk -l outputs are here: http://pastebin.com/m30233034
[07:34] <charred> Thanks
[07:34] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster: how do you do that?
[07:34] <milo> pastebin http://pastebin.com/m3172fc64
[07:34] <bdfoster> its just like connecting to a router
[07:35] <bdfoster> turn your wifi on, scan for the network, and connect
[07:35] <bdfoster> have you connected to a regular network with your ubuntu installation?
[07:36] <Ademan> charred: i'm about as lost as you, but you asked your question so well, i want you to get an answer haha, have you looked in /boot/grub/device.map to see what entries you have?
[07:37] <frogzoo> milo http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linuxquestions.org-member-success-stories-23/tar-archive-contains-obsolescent-base-64-headers-85911/
[07:37] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster: its asking me on my smartphone what kind of authentication i want to choose on the network im creating
[07:38] <MeatPopsicle> ad hoc
[07:38] <MeatPopsicle> what should i choose
[07:39] <charred> I looked in it, and it seemed wrong, yes Ademan, output is here http://pastebin.com/m13dcf7a6. However, my linux is also installed on /dev/sdc so even though it is not there, it can certainly boot from that driver.
[07:39] <charred> drive*
[07:41] <bdfoster> just do none, MeatPopsicle
[07:41] <bdfoster> as long as its adhoc
[07:41] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster: but i want security
[07:41] <bdfoster> its not going to reach far enough
[07:42] <bdfoster> maybe 30 ft
[07:42] <Ademan> charred: i had read that windows needs to be in a primary partition, but i have no idea if that still applies, and that's not what changed anyways...
[07:42] <bdfoster> Ademan, its recommended that you install windows then ubuntu because of the way GRUB works
[07:43] <bdfoster> there are ways to get around it, but it requires alot of manual work
[07:43] <ranjan> does grub 2 have some issue
[07:43] <Ademan> bdfoster: yeah, charred did install windows first, also i've reinstalled grub by hand plenty of times :-p
[07:43] <bdfoster> interesting, i had no problems with grub or brub2
[07:43] <bdfoster> grub2
[07:44] <apocalypt> Gryph: ? maybe that could help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299489
[07:44] <Gryph> thanks ill take a look at it
[07:44] <bdfoster> i installed xp then ubuntu with no problems
[07:45] <bdfoster> if you just install them side by side per the installer you should be golden
[07:45] <Ademan> charred: here's a (probably) crappy suggestion, move your /boot/grub/device.map somewhere else so ubuntu has *nothing* and see if it will regenerate it for the next time
[07:45] <charred> Ademan: Windows is in primary partition, it was either grub, linux or me plugging in a new HD that broke it, it was working perfectly this morning... All I need to do, I believe, is make grub boot Win7 on /dev/sdc3... can I just change it in a file somewhere?
[07:45] <charred> Ademan: Worth a shot I guess
[07:46] <charred> I'll back it up and reboot
[07:46] <Psinetic> i'm on Ubuntu 9.10 64 Bit. anytime i visit an https website it doesn't load the page. it just sits there.
[07:46] <Psinetic> any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:46] <Ademan> charred: well i mean move your device.map and rerun update-grub
[07:46] <ranjan> in earlier version of  grub system usually use to bout up  from the entries which was assing as default but this feature is missing in this version of ubuntu .. or i am not aware to enable this function so can any body over here on network can help me in this aspect .. thaks in advance for your help ;)
[07:48] <zax_> does anyone else have a problem with flash-player for firefox on ubuntu 9.10? or maybe just know what can be wrong.
[07:49] <charred> Ademan: That LOOKED like it kind of worked, but not really, it's still saying Windows 7 is on /dev/sdc2 when it is definitely on /dev/sdc3
[07:49] <apocalypt> Psinetic: i guess there are possibilities. first u are working in an enviroment where outgoing ports are blocked or second if u open a https page with an non trusted certificate and u have to authorize it
[07:49] <Ademan> zax_: unfortunately that's too vague, i personally have really bad flickering with flash, and the performance is bad
[07:49] <apocalypt> +two
[07:50] <Ademan> charred: hrm...
[07:50] <zax_> ademan: I can't even get it installed.
[07:50] <charred> Ademan: Looks like new grub looks for first windows partition and assumes that it, the partition it says it is is on 100MB
[07:51] <Psinetic> apocalypt, i did authorize the cert. like amazon.com, i can't sign in. it just sits there and doesn't load at all.
[07:51] <charred> only*
[07:52] <meowbuntu> pidgin is seill running even though i have closed it ty  running even ehnn
[07:52] <apocalypt> Psinetic: is it possible your browser is waiting for a popup window but it can't open (blocked popups)
[07:52] <zax_> ademan: Okay. Now I'm lost. Tried what I thought was the same thing that I'd already tried, but now it works.
[07:53] <Psinetic> it shouldn't. i don't think amazon does popup windows, but i'll check that
[07:53] <chinni> hi everyone, what is the prefered way to get php 5.3 on jaunty?
[07:53] <Ademan> charred: yeah that's sorta what i was thinking, you may have to force things :-/  /etc/grub.d/README somewhat describes how to get your own entries into grub, also looking at the other shell scripts in /etc/grub.d/ should help with that
[07:54] <Alloosh1> Hi, I am configuring ubuntu server to use as a host for multiple sites. which FTP server would you recommend?
[07:54] <charred> Thanks a lot for your help Ademan, I'll investigate that
[07:54] <chinni> my screen is cracked, and I am working off of an external monitor - if that wasn't the case, I'd simply upgrade the whole thing
[07:54] <charred> Alloosh1: proftpd is what I use
[07:54] <Ademan> charred: no problem, i'm sorry i couldn't help more, you're one of those rare people who ask good questions haha
[07:54] <chinni> Alloosh1: i'd recommend against using ftp in general
[07:54] <charred> I certainly try Ademan ;)
[07:55] <Gambit-> anyone know how to use qemu/kvm overlays with the virt-create stuff?
[07:55] <charred> chinni: Was just about to that that, Alloosh1 I would run openssh and just connect via sftp
[07:55] <chinni> unless you are going over ssl
[07:55] <Psinetic> apocalypt, nope, i turned off no-script, adblock, and allowed popups, still hangs
[07:55] <Alloosh1> agreed, thanks guys
[07:55] <Alloosh1> :)
[07:56] <robtechfan> HELP!! wifi connects but firefox doesnt load pages
[07:56] <chinni> charred: it is really odd how people still use telnet and ftp
[07:56] <Gambit-> I can't seem to get it to work; modifying the xml files to point at the overlay file seems just to hang the process.
[07:56] <apocalypt> Psinetic: firefox?
[07:56] <Ademan> robtechfan: make sure you're not in offline mode, haha, otherwise how strong is the signal?
[07:56] <charred> telnet is handy for a quick port test
[07:56] <chinni> robtechfan: and you can ping google?
[07:56] <charred> I guess
[07:56] <Psinetic> apocalypt, yes
[07:56] <zax_> chinni: What would you use instead of FTP?
[07:56] <chinni> charred: so is nmap
[07:56] <charred> hehe, true
[07:56] <chinni> zax_: sftp
[07:57] <Ademan> zax_: depends on the use :-p
[07:57] <Psinetic> apocalypt, https://www.amazon.com/gp/yourstore?ie=UTF8&ref_=pd_irl_gw&signIn=1 there's the link
[07:57] <Psinetic> it hangs right there
[07:57] <jose> hola?
[07:57] <robtechfan> HOW
[07:57] <robtechfan> ??/
[07:57] <Ademan> !es | jose
[07:57] <rjnienaber> i'm running update manager and an update has failed
[07:57] <rjnienaber> how do i tell it to continue processing?
[07:57] <robtechfan> offline is unticked
[07:57] <Supermatt1000> can some one help me
[07:57] <Supermatt1000> plz
[07:58] <Ademan> !ask | Supermatt1000
[07:58] <chinni> robtechfan: can you ping google?
[07:58] <Supermatt1000> how do i install gnomenu??
[07:58] <chinni> robtechfan: can you access other things (ex: irc)
[07:58] <robtechfan> nnot sure how to ping google
[07:58] <Supermatt1000> i had it installed before
[07:58] <charred> Ademan: Looks a little above my level, I think I'll just ask on the forums
[07:58] <Ademan> robtechfan: open up a terminal (applications->accessories->terminal) and type in  "ping google.com" (without the quotes) and hit enter, see what happens
[07:58] <robtechfan> no notthing
[07:58] <robtechfan> okay ill ping now
[07:59] <Supermatt1000> could some one help me install gnomenu
[07:59] <apocalypt> Psinetic: just on Amazon or did u try to login on other https site with the same error?
[07:59] <chinni> robtechfan: do you have a firewall configured?
[07:59] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster: its not working:(
[07:59] <Ademan> charred: sorry dude...
[07:59] <Psinetic> well i tried another website and it does the same thing kinda, but it's a porn site so....
[07:59] <robtechfan> firewall not configured freash install
[07:59] <Ademan> robtechfan: you're probably not connected on a strong enough connection then
[08:00] <Supermatt1000> !ask gnomenu
[08:00] <chinni> robtechfan: also, try to access your router's ip address via firefox and see that your internet connection works from the wifi router
[08:00] <Ademan> Supermatt1000: http://www.gtk-apps.org/content/show.php/GnoMenu+-+consolidated+menu+for+gnome?content=93056
[08:00] <robtechfan> okay
[08:00] <apocalypt> Psinetic: try about:config . there is a security section. maybe u need to allow ssl there
[08:00] <robtechfan> ping google doesnt work
[08:00] <tien> #ubuntu
[08:00] <chinni> robtechfan: if the page doesn't come up, then get closer to the router -- could be that wifi doesn't reach to where you are at
[08:01] <bdfoster> MeatPopsicle, my guess is the option to share the internet connection on a windows mobile device does not exist
[08:01] <jmccaffrey1> Hello
[08:01] <robtechfan> ok but am in same room
[08:01] <Psinetic> apocalypt, ok let me try
[08:01] <chinni> robtechfan: ok, can you get to the ip of your router?
[08:01] <jmccaffrey1> What is the best way to install java without installing x11?  I guess my root question is what is the best way to see all the options for a package with apt ?
[08:01] <Supermatt1000> thanks
[08:01] <robtechfan> no ip
[08:02] <chinni> robtechfan: usually it is something like http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.2.1 or 192.168.0.1
[08:02] <robtechfan> oh yep that works
[08:02] <jove> Hello everyone: I have mp3 files and want to burn them into WAV Audio CD, what program of Ubuntu 9.10 to be using ?
[08:02] <Psinetic> apocalypt, is this right?:     browser.safebrowsing.provider.0.keyURL;https://sb-ssl.google.com/safebrowsing/newkey?client={moz:client}&appver={moz:version}&pver=2.2
[08:02] <chinni> robtechfan: another thing - do you have MAC address filtering of something like that (WPA etc)
[08:03] <Supermatt1000> ok i got the tar.gz how i install it??
[08:03] <lonejack> ho un grosso casino. Sono passato da Ubuntu 32 a 64 9.04
[08:03] <bdfoster> jmccaffrey1, install medibuntu (www.medibuntu.com) or install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:03] <chinni> robtechfan: there are so many scenarios where things can happen where you can't go online :)
[08:03] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster: now how do i get all of these bad ad hoc networks off the network manager list?
[08:03] <lonejack> Il mio desktop è cambiato totalmente
[08:03] <bdfoster> MeatPopsicle, on ubuntu?
[08:03] <MeatPopsicle> yeaah
[08:03] <apocalypt> Psinetic: look for secure.ssl
[08:04] <MeatPopsicle> yeah*
[08:04] <robtechfan> yea i no eth works without problems
[08:04] <Psinetic> apocalypt, nothing came up
[08:04] <flourish> hello all, my server hangs tomorrow and here is the message: http://paste.pchowtos.co.uk/?id=2178&key=220804be06114
[08:04] <flourish> sorry, in the morning
[08:04] <bdfoster> MeatPopsicle, right click on the network manager, select edit connections, and delete the ones you dont like
[08:04] <chinni> robtechfan: type this into your browser: http://74.125.53.100/ -- does google come up?
[08:05] <MeatPopsicle> bdfoster: i did but some of them aren't listed in there
[08:05] <jove> does anyone know what application to burn mp3 files into Audio (WAV) for CD ?
[08:05] <robtechfan> keeps loading and loading
[08:05] <chinni> robtechfan: if it does, that means that your dns isn't working. if it doesn't then you have connection issues (check the router's configuration)
[08:05] <apocalypt> Psinetic: maybe there is a bug in your firefox or as i told u before u are working on a system where outgoing ports like 443 (ssl) are blocked
[08:05] <apocalypt> Psinetic: did u try another browser?
[08:06] <Ademan> Supermatt1000: you need to extract it first
[08:06] <Psinetic> yes i've tried another browser
[08:06] <robtechfan> ok say its dns how do i fix?
[08:06] <chinni> robtechfan: there is usually some type of diagnostics tool in your router's config
[08:06] <Psinetic> well i really don't know what other browsers are available on ubuntu
[08:06] <Supermatt1000> ademan i got it getdeb.net made a installer for it and now it works
[08:06] <Gryph> apocalypt  Thanks again if the reverse vnc don't work i might be able to get reverse ssh to work
[08:06] <slax> 2
[08:06] <Supermatt1000> Ademan thanks for the help
[08:06] <chinni> robtechfan: so you can access google via: http://74.125.53.100 ?
[08:07] <robtechfan> yes!! lol so its DNS
[08:07] <robtechfan> ??
[08:07] <jmccaffrey1> What is the easiest way to list all the options for a package from the command line? (with x11, without x11, with perl etc...)
[08:07] <bdfoster> MeatPopsicle, then you should be good.
[08:07] <chinni> Gryph: reverse ssh doesn't work all the time (i remember some admin mucked w/ openvpn once to disallow that at my old job)
[08:07] <Gryph> hmm
[08:08] <bdfoster> if they are still showing up when you are searching for networks, then delete them from your device
[08:08] <apocalypt> Psinetic: try opera maybe
[08:08] <Psinetic> apocalypt, ok, let me try a proxy first
[08:08] <Gryph> if push came to shove i can get the password to open the ports, but where is the fun in that?
[08:09] <chinni> robtechfan: ok, i don't know how to change it graphically -- but basically you need to (as root) change the file: /etc/resolv.conf to have your isp's dns server, or your router's ip listed (I use this dns server: 4.2.2.2)
[08:09] <chinni> robtechfan: via Terminal, you can do: sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[08:10] <chinni> robtechfan: change the line that says "nameserver" to->   nameserver 4.2.2.2
[08:11] <chinni> robtechfan: then restart networking-> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:11] <robtechfan> hahaha wicked works Thank you so much
[08:12] <Psinetic> apocalypt, someone told me i had kernel issues a while back, would that cause this too?
[08:12] <chinni> robtechfan: sure, np -- stick around and see if you can help someone ;)
[08:12] <Gryph> .
[08:12] <chinni> work on building that karma :)
[08:12] <apocalypt> Psinetic: maybe. is java active in firefox?
[08:12] <robtechfan> yep will do
[08:13] <Psinetic> apocalypt, yes java is active, i'm on facebook constantly XD
[08:13] <ranjan> how to put system on sleep and in hibernet by using command line
[08:14] <apocalypt> Psinetic: on facebook is there also a https page for login?
[08:14] <Psinetic> i don't know let me check
[08:14] <ranjan> how to put system on sleep and in hibernet by using command line in ubuntu 9.10
[08:16] <Psinetic> apocalypt, oddly enough the page loaded in opera
[08:16] <apocalypt> Psinetic: it works in opera?
[08:16] <Psinetic> yes
[08:16] <erry>  /part
[08:17] <erry> ugh
[08:17] <apocalypt> Psinetic: your firefox is the problem. deinstall it and delete your profile. make a fresh install of firefox
[08:18] <robtechfan> psinetic: do this sudo apt-get autoremove icedtea-gcjwebplugin
[08:18] <Psinetic> could you give me the code for that?
[08:18] <Psinetic> oh haha
[08:18] <apocalypt> robtechfan: maybe u help him ? i have to go
[08:18] <robtechfan> (icedtea-gcjwebplugin is a little web browser plugin to execute Java applets. It is targeted for Mozilla and compatible browsers that support the NPAPI. It seems that this has some compatibility issue with Firefox 3
[08:19] <Psinetic> will this kill all my plugins too?
[08:19] <Psinetic> i had a lot
[08:20] <robtechfan> no just gcjweb
[08:21] <Psinetic> robtechfan, http://pastebin.com/d57ff5829
[08:21] <ndowens> So how compatabile is debian and ubuntu
[08:21] <ndowens> software
[08:21] <Tina-> i'm new to ubuntu and wonder where to put rc scripts,it seems buntu dont use rc-update like in gentoo
[08:22] <Tina-> so how i set wicd at default runlevel?
[08:23] <arooni-mobile___> on boot i'm seeing: "one or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted: /home: waiting for UUID-099bac250-blah Press ESC to enter a recovery shell"
[08:23] <burris> what's the "alternate" distribution?  is that the no-gui one?
[08:23] <Tina-> i got tired of nm-applet and network mananger as it always ask for my passwd , i want my connection up b4 i login
[08:23] <Rajasun> ndowens: some are, some aren't...afair diff libc6 versions
[08:23] <ndowens> ah ok thanks
[08:24] <Psinetic> any ideas on what that error is at the end there robtechfan ?
[08:25] <Tina-> !rc
[08:25] <student> I'm student13
[08:25] <Tina-> uh ubuntu not uses openrc ?
[08:26] <Tina-> !openrc
[08:26] <NigelS> hey guys!
[08:26] <neriko> How do I get rid of an installed program? My friend downloaded MythTV, and now it apparently has it's own user access!
[08:26] <NigelS> Just wondering if someone could give me a hand for a sec..
[08:27] <Tina-> there has to be something like it cause i can do /etc/init.d/wicd start so where is the list of init.d scripts??
[08:27] <NigelS> my little son has done something to the desktop and now i cant locate the progams bar at the top of the screen.. it disppeared! can someone help please?
[08:27] <tarelerulz> Has anyone used a ipod touch with Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[08:28] <Tina-> tarelerulz: my touch fell in the toilet :o
[08:28] <virtuald> !panels nigels
[08:28] <virtuald> !panels |nigels
[08:29] <Tina-> !init.d
[08:29] <NigelS> virtual --> err where do i do this?
[08:29] <Tina-> :( cmon anyone tell me please
[08:29] <Psinetic> well i guess both the guys who were helping me left..anyone else?
[08:30] <bdfoster> on remote desktop, what port should i forward to my computer on my router
[08:30] <bdfoster> ?
[08:30] <bdfoster> for 9.10
[08:30] <powertool08> Neriko: sudo apt-get --purge remove <mythtv pkg>
[08:30] <shelbywill> hello all. have set up lvm2 on two spare disks i use for kvm, however, the logical volumes are not active at boot time. ideas?
[08:30] <Neriko> Thanks powertool
[08:30] <Tina-> bdfoster: 5900
[08:30] <bdfoster> Tina-, thanks
[08:31] <NigelS> guys.. i'm in gui, i dont know how to bring a terminal up??
[08:31] <NigelS> cause that panel where i usually get to has disappeared! :(
[08:31] <Tina-> alt+f2 , type gnome-terminal NigelS
[08:32] <box> hey, how do i reinstall the fast-user-switch applet on karmic?
[08:32] <Neriko> How do I remove a user in Terminal?
[08:32] <NigelS> oh ok
[08:32] <NigelS> one sec
[08:32] <Tina-> userdel Neriko
[08:32] <Neriko> Thanks Tina
[08:32] <shelbywill> can someone assist me with activating a lvm2 volume?
[08:32] <Psinetic> i STILL can't login to amazon with firefox browser >_>
[08:32] <Neriko> Can I force a logout?
[08:34] <powertool08> Neriko: You can open a terminal, use su <user to logoff> to become the user, then logout
[08:34] <Tina-> Neriko: not a clean way but killall -9 -u user will do
[08:34] <NigelS> Tina -- thank you!
[08:35] <NigelS> ubottu -- thank you even more.. you guys on here rock fellas! :)
[08:35] <Neriko> Thank you.
[08:35] <mayura> hey guys, does ubuntu have a "driver" or drivers for media keys on certain laptops?
[08:36] <arooni-mobile___> on boot i'm seeing: "one or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted: /home: waiting for UUID-099bac250-blah Press ESC to enter a recovery shell";  in recovery shell i see " General error mounting filesystems"; sudo fsck yields => /dev/md0; recovering journal, /dev/md0: clean, 38,122 files, 22/488 blocks, fsck.ext3: unable to resolve "uuid=099"
[08:36] <Neriko> Okay, 1 last question: How do I change the password of another account without logging off?
[08:36] <powertool08> Neriko: passwd <user>
[08:37] <Neriko> Thank you very much
[08:37] <powertool08> np
[08:37] <Tina-> i installed wicd , how i let it start during boot?
[08:38] <shelbywill> I have set up logical volumes on two spare disks I  use for kvm, however, the logical volumes are not active at boot time. any ideas?
[08:38] <khensthoth> Tina-: It should already do that, does it not?
[08:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> I'm trying to get my xbox360 controller to work in ubuntu. How would I go about doing this?
[08:38] <bdfoster> SpaceGhostC2C, google is your friend
[08:39] <NigelS> Guys, is it worthwhile upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10?
[08:39] <Tina-> khensthoth: oh oke , i did not reboot , just wondered if i had to mut it somewhere
[08:39] <Tina-> *put
[08:39] <Ziggyzxxyl> My printer won't share!.. under printer properties it says "shared" is ticked, but next to it it says "Not published, see server settings".... I can't find server settings - where is it?
[08:39] <bdfoster> SpaceGhostC2C, there are many tutorials for doing just that on the interwebs
[08:39] <khensthoth> Tina-: As far as I know, you don't need to. It's already configured that way. If it doesn't start, put an entry in Startup Applications.
[08:40] <lightbricko> How can I easily mount a specific folder from another ext3 file system onto a folder on my desktop permanently?
[08:40] <shredder12> hello everyone, I am unable to publish my key on ubuntu server I am using this command "gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key>" and it gives some http post 22 error.. have a look here for details..http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d280d9340
[08:40] <powertool08> lightbricko: I think you have to add an entry in your /etc/fstab file.
[08:41] <Tina-> khensthoth: ty, well i'm not used to ubuntu yet , i'm a gentooer ;) but a source based distro bit heavy for an eeepc ;) so i run the netbookremix 9.10 on it
[08:41] <lightbricko> powertool08: ok thx. I'll see if I can find an application that does it for me.
[08:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> bdfoster, that's awesome, would you point me towards one?
[08:41] <shelbywill> anyone can help with lvm?
[08:42] <SpaceGhostC2C> !patience | shelbywill
[08:42] <Tina-> only issue i have is that java often not works and then reinstall makes it works again ,is this a know issue?
[08:42] <Psinetic> I've narrowed down my problem with firefox. it's having a problem downloading ssl IMAGES on https websites
[08:43] <Psinetic> or some sort of protocol that has something to do with it
[08:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> I'm trying to get my xbox 360 controller to work in ubuntu.
[08:43] <khensthoth> Tina-: Not that I know of. Which java package have you got installed?
[08:43] <Psinetic> anyone have any idea how ti fix this?
[08:43] <Ziggyzxxyl> My printer won't share!.. under printer properties it says "shared" is ticked, but next to it it says "Not published, see server settings".... I can't find server settings - where is it?
[08:43] <powertool08> SpaceGhostC2C: http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=63576, let the guy in the last post know :)
[08:44] <Tina-> khensthoth: sun-java6jre sun-java6-plugin and the bin and common package
[08:44] <frogzoo> Ziggyzxxyl: point your web browser to the cups port - 631?
[08:45] <Rajasun> Tina: type java -version
[08:46] <Tina-> java version "1.6.0_15"
[08:46] <Psinetic> i'm having a serious problem with this program, just tried to remove it and go this:  * Stopping mobicip filtering service daemon mobicip_service             [fail]
[08:46] <strayhyena> hello
[08:46] <MASARUwota> hi
[08:46]  * Tina- wonders why 1.6.0_17 i snot in tree yet
[08:46] <Neriko> Alright, this is annoying. I've logged in as Mythtv, clicked logout, it's logged me out, but when I type deluser mythtv it keeps telling me it's still logged in!
[08:47] <strayhyena> does anyone know how to add custom sounds to ubuntu? I see that I can do a theme in /usr/share/sounds but I'm wondering if there's other possible sounds to add, like sounds for minimizing and stuff
[08:47] <Bdfoster89> SpaceGhostC2C: sry stepped away for a sec. try suggestion above, I can tell you my ps3 controller is hooked up to my box via bluetooth
[08:47] <Rajasun> Tina: hmm that is the official version in karmic. I have 1.6.0_16 from Jaunty's install. No issues with it.
[08:48] <powertool08> Neriko: try ps aux | grep mythtv, kill any running processes and try again. Does mythtv have a service which needs to be stopped first?
[08:48] <powertool08> Neriko: *any running processes under the mythtv user
[08:49] <strayhyena> why does ubuntu 9.10 have so many customization features removed?
[08:49] <Tina-> so Jaunty , is the latest? can i just edit the sourceslist and replace karmic with jaunty?
[08:49] <Neriko> Checking now
[08:49] <Bdfoster89> Tina-: karmic is latest
[08:49] <Tina-> oh ic
[08:49] <Rajasun> strayhyena: if u r talking about e.g. being able to customize gdm, that wasn't a Ubuntu decision but upstream GNOME's
[08:50] <bdfoster_iPhone> m
[08:50] <root_> where are default things installed on ubuntu
[08:50] <root_> from the repo's
[08:50] <Rajasun> Tina: Karmic is. Just strange that karmic carries 1.6.0_15 while I already have 1.6.0_16 from Jaunty
[08:50] <Tina-> root_: in a terminal wheris appname will show you ;)
[08:51] <root_> k ill try that
[08:51] <powertool08> Neriko: If that doesn't work, try this 'sudo pkill -KILL -u username'
[08:51] <Tina-> whereis*
[08:51] <Ziggyzxxyl> I went through the CUPS browser set up and set the printer to sharing, and it still says "not shared"
[08:51] <Bdfoster89> update?
[08:51] <Ziggyzxxyl> frogzoo:  I went through the CUPS browser set up and set the printer to sharing, and it still says "not shared"
[08:51]  * Tina- cant type well as she has rsi :'(
[08:51] <root_> I tryd to cd into the folder Tina- and it tells me its not a directory
[08:51] <root_> where is the game folder then
[08:52] <Moumtam> slt
[08:52] <Rajasun> Neriko: try kill -2 <PID> or kill -15 <PID> instead, don't use kill -9 <PID> if possible
[08:53] <Neriko> None of those are working...still telling me user is logged in
[08:53] <strayhyena> what's a good program to convert sounds to ogg?
[08:53] <indus> strayhyena: sound recorder?
[08:54] <powertool08> Neriko: You could try lsof | grep mythtv and close anything the user has open.
[08:54] <strayhyena> indus, not record, but like I have an mp3 i'd like to be ogg
[08:54] <indus> strayhyena: it does that
[08:54] <Scorch2> Hi all
[08:54] <strayhyena> oh
[08:54] <Neriko> Powertool, here's what your previous grep lists http://paste.ubuntu.com/337128/
[08:55] <indus> strayhyena: no sorry,
[08:55] <indus> strayhyena: try rhythmbox
[08:55] <Psinetic> i just love it how both the guys who were helping me just up and randomly bounced on me. thanks alot guys >_>
[08:55] <powertool08> strayhyena: mencoder is decent but I think its command line only. Also, converting from mp3 to ogg will cause your files to lose some quality if you aren't aware.
[08:55] <Scorch2> Anyone know how to fix the ERROR: Failed to Fork PTY? Right now I feel like patty has forked me
[08:55] <indus> Psinetic: what is the problem
[08:56] <Rajasun> strayhyena: soundconverter, soundkonverter, gnusound
[08:56] <strayhyena> hmm,... flac meat
[08:56] <shelbywill> anyone can help with lvm?
[08:56] <Psinetic> firefox is being retarded. i can't login to amazon it just idles there, and it has something to do with https and images
[08:56] <Psinetic> i have no idea what it is, or why
[08:56] <indus> !ogg
[08:56] <powertool08> Neriko: Is mythbackend a package? If so, try removing it first.
[08:56] <thrope> if i force a fsck by touch /forcefsck and reboot - where can I find the logs of the fsck that happened?
[08:57] <indus> !info soundripper
[08:57] <indus> strayhyena: ya soundconverter will do it
[08:57] <Scorch2> Hello! I'd like some help clearing an error in Jaunty, please
[08:58] <Neriko> Couldn't find package
[08:58] <indus> !info soundconverter
[08:58] <Neriko> New paste powertool http://paste.ubuntu.com/337131/
[08:58] <powertool08> Neriko: Try sudo apt-get remove myth <tab> and see if it lists anything, if so, remove these.
[08:58] <strayhyena> indus, thanks, I was just wondering what everyone else uses
[08:59] <box> hey, how do i reinstall the fast-user-switch applet on karmic?
[08:59] <indus> box right click on panel>add to panel and add it user switch applet
[08:59] <bdfoster> !info remote desktop
[09:00] <box> indus, no i mean i uninstalled it
[09:00] <box> indus removed it via apt
[09:00] <indus> box hmm
[09:00] <rashed2020> Is there a linux implemenation of ole32.dll? Something like lib32ole.so or whatever it may be called.
[09:00] <indus> box then add it again from apt ?
[09:00] <box> indus, can't find it in the repo
[09:00] <Neriko> Hooray!
[09:00] <Neriko> Thanks Powertool
[09:01] <Scorch2> Will anyone help?
[09:01] <powertool08> Neriko: np
[09:01] <maxagaz> if my printer/scanner is only plugged via ethernet cable, can I still use the scanner ?
[09:01] <maxagaz> i mean, plugged to a switch
[09:01] <strayhyena> is there any decent firewalls for ubuntu that uses a gui?
[09:02] <powertool08> box: The pkg name is  'fast-user-switch-applet' according to my apt.
[09:02] <sleepy_cat> javascript
[09:02] <Rajasun> strayhyena: gufw, firestarter
[09:02] <bdfoster> !info remote-desktop
[09:02] <indus> !info fusa
[09:03] <Scorch2> OK. I'll just post it on the forum - again. Someone should answer me in a week or so
[09:03] <powertool08> bdfoster: Maybe its vino? Not sure if it changed in karmic.
[09:03] <drazet> exit
[09:04] <strayhyena> Rajasun, is firestarter outdated?
[09:04] <bdfoster> !info vino
[09:04] <bdfoster> there it is
[09:04] <Rajasun> strayhyena: no
[09:04] <bdfoster> powertool08, thanks
[09:04]  * powertool08 prefers x11vnc
[09:04] <Rajasun> strayhyena: u can try Ubuntu's own if u want i.e. gufw
[09:04] <powertool08> bdfoster: you're welcome
[09:04] <bdfoster> powertool08, i might have to try that
[09:04] <student__> ;p
[09:04] <Rajasun> strayhyena: a total no brainer to setup this gufw
[09:04] <student> Hello???
[09:05] <bdfoster> student, yes?
[09:05] <strayhyena> Rajasun, i just read somewhere that firestarter is dead but I see that the manual was updated November 26 2009, so i'll install that
[09:05] <powertool08> bdfoster: I like it because I can start it anytime and connect to the currently running session instead of a new session.
[09:05] <student_> nevermind we're just a binch of noobs
[09:05] <student_> *bunch
[09:05] <arooni-mobile___> on boot i'm seeing: "one or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted: /home: waiting for /dev/md1;  when i run sudo fsck i see: "when i run sudo fsck i see "fsck.ext3: invalid argument while trying to open /dev/md1; the superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. if the device is valid and it really contains a ext2 filesystem (and not swap and ufs or somewhere else), th
[09:05] <arooni-mobile___> en the superblock is corrupt and you might try running e2fsck with an laternate superlbock: e2fsck -b 8193 <device>"
[09:05] <czarna> mam pytaanie
[09:05] <czarna> xD
[09:06] <powertool08> student_: Are we schizophrenic too?
[09:06] <bdfoster> powertool08, will that interface with vino?
[09:06] <Rajasun> stayhyena: that project can't be dead even if it is, most of the features needed are already in...u want an easy GUI frontend to iptables, firestarter and gufw are your choices
[09:06] <bdfoster> student_ do you have a question?
[09:06] <powertool08> bdfoster: It replaces it. Both programs run on the vnc protocol.
[09:07] <indus> box searching :)
[09:07] <bdfoster> powertool08, what im saying is the other computer that is trying to connect may have either vino or x11vnc
[09:07] <Rajasun> strayhyena: of course u can always install fwbuilder that is u know what u r doing
[09:08] <Tina-> anyone knows how i can port my netbook sound (ubuntu) to my desktop (gentoo) , i use xbnmc upnp to share files across the two now and synergy to share inputdevices i want sound  shared too
[09:08] <box> $ aptitude search fast-user-switch-applet
[09:08] <box> $
[09:08] <powertool08> bdfoster: The client can run any vnc client. I've connected with realvnc, tightvnc, and xvncviewer.
[09:08] <bdfoster> gotcha
[09:08] <bdfoster> powertool08, thanks again
[09:08] <strayhyena> is there such thing as a mass downloader? i want something that will open links and download/open links within those links, and just keep going
[09:08] <powertool08> bdfoster: np
[09:09] <khensthoth> Tina-: You mean you want your netbook sound to play through your desktop speaker? That kind of stuff?
[09:09] <gburton> hi
[09:09] <Tina-> khensthoth: yes
[09:09] <bdfoster> now if i could get my f12 vm working, i would be in business
[09:09] <bdfoster> lol
[09:09] <indus> box sudo apt-get install fast-user-switch-applet
[09:09] <powertool08> strayhyena: I think wget can do it but I don't know the specific command.
[09:09] <gburton> has all the malarchy about 9.10 subsided yet? update manager keeps pushing the update from 9.04 -> 9.10
[09:09] <Rajasun> strayhyena: apt-cache show httrack...u can download an entire website if u want
[09:10] <khensthoth> Tina-: PulseAudio can do this, so your Gentoo desktop would have to have PulseAudio too. Instructions here: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/582-stream-music-wirelessely-using-pulseaudio-server-device-chooser
[09:10] <Tina-> ty khensthoth
[09:11] <Tina-> khensthoth: i tried NAS(audio) but i could not figure that out
[09:12] <box> indus, i'm on karmic, and it says the fast-user-switch-applet has been obsoleted by gdm
[09:13] <indus> box hmm
[09:13] <indus> ok
[09:13] <khensthoth> box: The functionality has been superceded by Indicator Session Applet
[09:14] <Rajasun> box: what does dpkg-query -W gdm shows then?
[09:14] <dobblego> how do I remove old entries from the grub boot list?
[09:14] <khensthoth> box: Indicator Applet Session.
[09:14] <maco> dobblego: uninstall the corresponding linux-image- package
[09:14] <pretender> i have deleted ubuntu and want to restore windows 7 boot error grub no such partition how do i get windows 7 to boot like t did before ubuntu was installed
[09:14] <maco> pretender: install the windows boot loader from your windows disk
[09:15] <aguirreracing> hello
[09:15] <dobblego> maco, can I list those installed in grub somehow?
[09:15] <hyperstream> ive just installed ubuntu 32bit along side ubuntu 64bit, when i try to boot the 64bit i get: error: You need to load the kernel first  <-- alot of people on forums are saying to install grub, and ditch grub2 ?
[09:15] <maco> dobblego: "dpkg -l linux-image*" then i'd recommend uninstalling all but the 2 newest
[09:15] <dobblego> maco, great thanks
[09:16] <Rajasun> I doubt indicator-applet-session has superseded the fast-user-switch-applet, do an apt-cache show indicator-applet-session or a faster way is to right click on the applet and u'll see what it is for
[09:17] <dobblego> maco, I have installed two ubuntus next to each other; I want to get rid of the old one, so why would it be listed by dpkg?
[09:17] <maco> dobblego: ahh i thought you just wanted to get rid of old kernels
[09:18] <dobblego> maco, no, get rid of the grub entry for the old version
[09:18] <strayhyena> Rajasun, httrack is exactly what I was looking for, thanks :)
[09:18] <maco> dobblego: in that case, you can format the partition the one you dont want is on and then if you use a menu.lst youd just delete the stuff at the end that points to the other partition
[09:18] <maco> dobblego: though i dont know *which* of your installs grub is currently looking at
[09:18] <dobblego> maco, that's the thing; I cannot see a menu.lst with this latest ubuntu version
[09:18] <Rajasun> strayhyena: np
[09:19] <dobblego> # ls /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:19] <dobblego> ls: cannot access /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory
[09:19] <maco> dobblego: ok so grub2 then? /etc/grub/grub.cfg (and the other files in there are what determine its contents)
[09:19] <maco> dobblego: edit those other files then run "sudo update-grub" and a new grub.cfg will be generated
[09:19] <dobblego> maco, I think you mean /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[09:19] <Rajasun> dobblego; You can have outdated kernels and related uninstalled to free up disk space by issuing e.g. sudo aptitude --purge remove linux-headers-2.6.31-14-generic linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.31-14-generic linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-14-generic
[09:19] <K|nG> dobblego: you need to do cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:19] <Rajasun> dobblego: then type dpkg --get-selections > /home/yourusername/dpkg-get-selections-master.txt, open the file, find anything more to do with "linux" not removed with the earlier aptitude command, make a list of them use aptitude to purge them all. But BECAREFUL, do NOT remove/purge anythi package pertaining to your current running kernel. If you aren't sure what kernel version you are running at the moment, do type e.g. uname -rsa.
[09:19] <maco> dobblego: yes that
[09:20] <dobblego> K|nG, there is no such file
[09:20] <maco> Rajasun: youre not paying attention
[09:20] <K|nG> dobblego mabey need to install that
[09:20] <dobblego> maco, great thanks, I shall fiddle
[09:20] <K|nG> ;)
[09:20] <maco> Rajasun: dobblego has ubuntu installed on two partitions and wants to get rid of the one on the other partition
[09:20] <Rajasun> maco: ahh oopsie
[09:20] <K|nG> maco: questrion can i install a Ubuntu in a other partition and do not format it just install ?
[09:21] <maco> K|nG: yes, if you do that the /home will be saved
[09:21] <K|nG> Ahh mabey ill install 2 Systems cus my family do not know how to use UBUNTU :S soo i need to take 2 OS :S
[09:23] <indus> K|nG: NO you cannot without formatting the /
[09:23] <K|nG> :S :S:S
[09:23] <maco> indus: yes you can
[09:23] <indus> maco: it doesnt install properly if you dont select F for /
[09:23] <K|nG> Ohh That's nice ill try to do it :D
[09:23] <maco> indus: if you go to manual partitioning mode you can choose to use the same partition as before and itll save your /home
[09:23] <indus> maco: the home may be left sure but not the /
[09:23] <bening> can hardy be installed with gparted 0.4.2
[09:23] <bening> can hardy be installed with gparted 0.4.2?
[09:24] <maco> indus: right itll wipe out everything except /home, but /home isnt its own partition, just a directory
[09:24] <maco> indus: so you can save /home without needing to figure out how to make a separate /home partition. ive used it for upgrades at installfests a bunch
[09:24] <hyperstream> how can i restart gnome/x ?
[09:25] <indus> maco: you mean when /home is not a separate [partition?
[09:25] <maco> indus: yes
[09:25] <indus> maco: how
[09:25] <K|nG> maco: example to install or Enable putty need a Internet connect or not just do in command promp sudo apt-get install putty
[09:25] <K|nG> ?
[09:25] <indus> maco: with manual install?
[09:25] <anli_> seems that I have problems pressing buttons in ubuntu
[09:25] <maco> indus: if home is not a separate partition and you choose to use the same / partition again with the same filesystem but not formatting it, itll delete everything *except* home so that you can keep your data
[09:25] <maco> K|nG: ubuntu includes an ssh client
[09:26] <K|nG> Ahh Nice :)
[09:26] <maco> indus: of course with manual partitioning. thats the only way you get the option to not format
[09:26] <K|nG> New Ubuntu version request a 4 GB space to have free :A
[09:26] <K|nG> do you mean it is Enought ?
[09:26] <Rishab_> hello every one
[09:26] <MASARUwota> hello Rishab_
[09:26] <Rishab_> am getting error while installing through repo " E: plone3-site: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10 "
[09:26] <maco> Rishab_: at least that....id go for more if youre gonna have your own user data and install more software. 10GB at least
[09:27] <Ziggyzxxyl> My printer won't share!.. under printer properties it says "shared" is ticked, but next to it it says "Not published, see server settings".... I went to CUPS control panel in browser and set sharing there too and it still won't share.
[09:27] <indus> maco: bah iam confused
[09:27] <anli_> When I press "Install updates" in the "update manager", nothing happends, because the keystroke is not consumed by the application or something
[09:27] <maco> indus: why? perhaps you're still thinking of how it was 3 years ago?
[09:27] <anli_> Its a very nice looking button though
[09:27] <indus> maco: ok i assume /home is not separate but created during manual
[09:27] <maco> indus: no
[09:27] <indus> maco: i mean automatic
[09:28] <indus> maco: or in manual i didnt specify /home separate
[09:28] <hyperstream> is it possible anyone to restart x/gnome?
[09:28] <Rishab_> maco ??
[09:28] <maco> indus: if you did a normal install where everything is in one partition (plus swap) and then you want to do a clean install later
[09:28] <indus> maco: yes ok continue ...
[09:28] <maco> indus: when you do that clean install later, you choose manual partitioning. then you choose the same partition, keep the same "use as:" filesystem, set it to still be / and set it to DONT format
[09:29] <hyperstream> CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE doesnt work ?
[09:29] <maco> indus: then itll install into the same partition but retain the /home directory's contents so you dont lose data
[09:29] <indus> maco: hmm strange , i have found that install fails with the K option for /
[09:29] <maco> indus: K?
[09:29] <indus> maco: tried it 2 3 times and failed so
[09:29] <indus> maco: K is keep
[09:29] <maco> indus: ive done this on hardy, intrepid, and karmic
[09:29] <hyperstream> please guys, i cannot just reboot- i have no bootloader
[09:29] <indus> maco: F format K keep
[09:30] <maco> hyperstream: you can enable ctrl alt bksp in the keyboard setting
[09:30] <indus> hyperstream: press ALT -Sysrq-L
[09:30] <indus> hyperstream: press ALT -Sysrq-K\
[09:30] <indus> SORRY
[09:30] <indus> hyperstream: press ALT -Sysrq-K
[09:30] <maco> hyperstream: or go to a tty ctrl+alt+f1, login, and type "sudo service gdm restart"
[09:30] <maco> hyperstream: alt+sysrq+k may not be the best idea right now if you cant reboot
[09:31] <hyperstream> maco, thanks the keyboard shortcuts dont work
[09:31] <maco> hyperstream: because it can hang some systems
[09:31] <indus> maco: does it install / cleanly WITHOUT format? seems like dirty
[09:31] <hyperstream> ahh
[09:31] <maco> indus: i dont know. i just know that it works and any files that are part of a default install should be overwritten by the package installation process
[09:31] <Leoneof`> hi...how to handle two wireless wlan0 and wlan1? i need gui software for wireless
[09:31] <hyperstream> maco: when i try to install my bootloader to my external HDD(the one im on) it says  /dev/sdd does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. <-- just uninstalled grub2 and installed grub
[09:31] <Rajasun> hyperstream: not since 9.04, but u can reenable it though. From the 9.04 to 9.10 upgrade notes -> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace shortcut can now be done easily from the desktop. Enabling Ctrl-Alt-Backspace for Ubuntu    *      Select "System"->"Preferences"->"Keyboard"    *      Select the "Layouts" tab and click on the "Layout Options" button.  * Select "Key sequence to kill the X server" and enable "Control + Alt + Backspace".
[09:32] <maco> hyperstream: no idea
[09:32] <indus> maco: hmm ok, but i remember in dapper it failed for me
[09:32] <hyperstream> thanks Rajasun
[09:32] <maco> indus: it wasnt supported in dapper
[09:32] <Rajasun> hyperstream: np
[09:32] <hyperstream> has anyone heard of the issue that i just asked maco  about ?
[09:32] <maco> indus: this is as of hardy...*maybe* gutsy
[09:32] <indus> maco: hmm
[09:32] <indus> ok thanks
[09:33] <hyperstream> oo wow, i got it i think guys, had to add --recheck to the grub-install
[09:33] <indus> Rajasun: nice tip to enable the key combo, refreshingly different from the crappy dont zap option most answer
[09:34] <Rajasun> indus: not my discovery. it was from the 9.04 to 9.10 Upgrade Notes
[09:34] <indus> i heard it from you so good
[09:34] <maco> indus: dontzap is gone in 9.10
[09:34] <indus> hyperstream: hmm recheck?
[09:34] <maco> indus: at least, i think it is
[09:35] <hyperstream> indus, grub-install --recheck /dev/sdd
[09:35] <indus> hyperstream: ok good it works for you
[09:35] <Rajasun> dontzap is gone and change is documented in the Upgrade Notes
[09:36] <indus> is there any room for processors and motherboards?
[09:39] <pretender> maco:  tried bootrec etc still not booting just displaying the grub message
[09:40] <anli_> Is the operatino of click buttons failing in ubuntu nowadays? the only change their visual appearance, but nothing is happening when pressing them :)
[09:41] <kraut> moin
[09:41] <ordynator12> Salut
[09:42] <hyperstream> Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0 <-- would you say fd0 is floopdisk?
[09:42] <Leoneof> i've wlan0 for home network, and wlan1 for external network, i want GUI software to handle both of wireless, Network-Manager is not work for me, and wicd is for one wlan , any help?
[09:43] <Leoneof> hello?
[09:43] <arooni-mobile> anyone famialir with linux raid0 on ubuntu?  my home partition (/dev/md1) isnt be found, and and blkid doesnt list it at all...  this is ironic considering the root partition (/dev/md0) is on the same drive and i'm able to boot from
[09:45] <zen> do ubuntu need regular sys clear
[09:45] <Leoneof> hello?
[09:45] <Younder> arooni-mobile, raid0 is a bad idea.. You double your chance of failure.
[09:45] <frogzoo> zen: depends
[09:46] <zen> frogzoo: mu sys become slow
[09:46] <indus> hyperstream: yes floppy
[09:46] <frogzoo> zen: df -h
[09:46] <hyperstream> how can i unload the floppy
[09:46] <indus> hyperstream: just blacklist it
[09:46] <zen> frogzoo: do it in the terminal?
[09:46] <frogzoo> hyperstream: eject
[09:46] <khensthoth> pretender: Have you seen the instructions for restoring your Windows 7 bootloader? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[09:46] <frogzoo> zen: yes
[09:46] <indus> hyperstream: oh you mean you want to eject it?
[09:46] <CHESLYN> hi everyone
[09:47] <indus> hi
[09:47] <hyperstream> nono, its hanging my grub-install cause it cannot read from fd0, but i dont even have a floppy disk, i have blacklisted it, but cannot restart
[09:47] <zen> frogzoo: i did  , but do it really works
[09:47] <hyperstream> i need to install grub first before rebooting, modprobe -r floppy gives fatal its inuse
[09:47] <CHESLYN> anyone i want to restart my 'GDM' , how can i ?
[09:47] <indus> hyperstream: hmm this was an old issue with the alpha of 9.10 not sure why its still coming
[09:48] <indus> CHESLYN: service gdm restart
[09:48] <Younder> hyperstream, sounds like a BIOS problem,
[09:48] <hyperstream> Younder, oh noes, no way to kill the floppy without rebooting?
[09:48] <Younder> hyperstream, what does your BIOS menu say about boot sequence
[09:48] <CHESLYN> indus: yes
[09:48] <indus> CHESLYN: thats the command i said
[09:49] <zen> frogzoo: i think  it's too quick i dont know it actully
[09:49] <hyperstream> Younder, i have floppy removed from boot order/sequence
[09:49] <asmodeus_> rm -rf /bin/
[09:49] <arooni-mobile> Younder, i'm sorry did i say raid0 i mean 1 or 10 .. whatever has the same data across two drives... here is my fdisk -l > http://pastebin.com/f13d1666a
[09:49] <indus> asmodeus_: ?
[09:49] <CHESLYN> indus: okay thanks ,is that all only that command
[09:49] <hyperstream> sudo rm -rf /dev/fd0 worked, thanks guys
[09:50] <indus> hyperstream: hmm bad idea
[09:50] <indus> hyperstream: nvm
[09:50] <zen> #ubuntu-cn
[09:50] <indus> CHESLYN: is the command working?
[09:51] <arooni-mobile> anyone famialir with linux raid10 on ubuntu?  my home partition (/dev/md1) isnt be found (here is sudo fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/f13d1666a), and and blkid doesnt list it at all...  this is ironic considering the root partition (/dev/md0) is on the same drive and i'm able to boot from
[09:51] <indus> CHESLYN: in karmic its changed now it seems, used to be sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:51] <CHESLYN> indus: okay thanks i'll try it now
[09:51] <a2f> hi, just wondering if ubuntu supports make.conf... can't find one
[09:52] <a2f> oops nm
[09:53] <sunrider> for some reason ncurses clicking function will not work on this remote server
[09:53] <UNewb> hello
[09:53] <sunrider> as in htop, cannot click the `ram` bar to sort by ram, etc
[09:53] <Leoneof`> anyone good with wireless? >_>
[09:53] <Orion777> anyone know how I find out my ip address?
[09:53] <sunrider> do you think not having set locale has anything to do with this?
[09:53] <sunrider> orion777, ifconfig
[09:53] <sunrider> leoneof`, what about it
[09:54] <Orion777> sunrider, and its inet address?
[09:54] <Ademan> does anyone know how to find what hosts each line in ~/.ssh/known_hosts refers to? i have a key conflict
[09:54] <Leoneof`> sunrider: i've wlan0 for home network, and wlan1 for external network, i need gui software to handle both wireless, coz wicd is for onle wireless only
[09:55] <Leoneof`> onle=one*
[09:55] <UNewb> I'm having some difficulties installing Ubuntu... I burned it to my CD and booted up with it, the first few stages were fine until I got to the Partition...
[09:56] <portn0k> UNewb: go on
[09:57] <UNewb> Well I'm running Windows at the moment, and I don't want to lose it so I selected the option to install side-by-side so I could choose at startup which OS to use...
[09:57] <drellok> Ademan: each line in that file starts with a hostname
[09:57] <UNewb> It then went on to partition my HDD but that didn't work, it gave me an error after about an hour of what I thought was the process taking place...
[09:58] <portn0k> UNewb: and the error was ?
[09:58] <zcat[1]> but windows still boots?
[09:58] <UNewb> I haven't tried windows, I chose to close the installation and when I did, it booted me instantly to the Ubuntu desktop via the LIVE CD
[09:58] <UNewb> portn0k : the error : I'm not sure to be honest, I didn't record it, stupidly.
[09:59] <UNewb> But it said something along the lines of error partitioning drive lol
[09:59] <portn0k> UNewb: without knowing what went wrong its hard to assist you
[09:59] <zcat[1]> UNewb:  I'd run gparted (alt-F2 and type 'gksu gparted') and see what it shows now...
[10:00] <UNewb> Well one thing that's bugging me is that I have two separate HDD's, one has Windows on it and some files, the other I use specifically for my game installations... they're both 500gb, but the second one never appears anywhere, I can't view it from BIOS or choose to partition it or anything.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: if its not visible in the BIOS then no OS will see it
[10:00] <Younder> iuse fdisk for partioning
[10:00] <UNewb> Okay, when I run gparted, it shows 1mb unallocated, and then my main HDD ntfs with 289gb unused.
[10:00] <portn0k> youd have to set it up with fstab and format it once you got your shit up and running afaik
[10:00] <portn0k> the second that is.
[10:01] <sindileb> greetings ubuntu people
[10:01] <indus> UNewb: yeah you saying you use it for game installations, if the bios cant see it, how exactly did u putgames on it?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> !hi | sindileb
[10:01] <UNewb> Well indus, I can only view the drive when I'm on my Windows desktop, it's titled E:<
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: does the drive detect and show ok in the BIOS?
[10:02] <indus> UNewb: the bios first post screen should list it as a device
[10:02] <ranjan> can any body over here can tell me in which folder the files use to downlode by default from apt's
[10:02] <UNewb> My main drive does, but the second one never appears when booting.
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: ok then you need to add a line in /etc/fstab and it will mount at bootup
[10:02] <zcat[1]> UNewb:  boot into windows and resize it there, then run the ubuntu installer and choose to use the 'free space' .. Windows probably knows ntfs better than ubuntu and may have more luck resizing itself...
[10:02] <indus> UNewb: after all the cdrom /dvd stuff
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | UNewb
[10:02] <UNewb> It only lists my single device for some reason, even though I use it all of the time from my windows desktop
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:02] <zcat[1]> UNewb:  in gparted, can you see both driers (drop down box top right IIRC)
[10:03] <arooni-mobile> anyone famialir with linux raid10 on ubuntu?  my home partition (/dev/md1) isnt be found (here is sudo fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/f13d1666a), and and blkid doesnt list it at all...  this is ironic considering the root partition (/dev/md0) is on the same drive and i'm able to boot from
[10:03] <zcat[1]> *drives sorry..
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: if you want to clear them out use:sudo apt-get clean
[10:03] <UNewb> zcat >>> when I use the drop-down, it only shows my main HDD
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: thats not ironic
[10:03] <UNewb> I can't see the other drive, I never have been able to, not in bios, not in startup, it's weird... but on my windows desktop I clearly have and use it
[10:04] <UNewb> !fstab
[10:04] <zcat[1]> UNewb:  that's pretty weird alright
[10:04] <ranjan> ActionParsnip :: no i want to bake an back up of that file so that i can use it on other computers
[10:04] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, why?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: cool, you can either simply copy the files or use a pretty ui called aptoncd
[10:04] <Kaboontu> guys this file  tawycw.exe and its modification spread in my ubuntu ntfs hard drive?
[10:04] <indus> UNewb: fdisk -l might show it
[10:04] <zcat[1]> UNewb:  it's a sata on the motherboard, or some oddball raid card that needs special drivers to access?
[10:05] <ranjan> ActionParsnip :: but i dont want to waste any extra cd
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: you don't have to use UUIDs
[10:05] <UNewb> I plugged them both into the SATA slots on my mobo
[10:05] <ranjan> ActionParsnip :: for this part
[10:05] <indus> UNewb: yeah maybe it needs setting in bios to sata controller or raid etc
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> ranjan: thats cool, just copy them to USB or over LAN
[10:05] <UNewb> but when I boot I only see the one SATA II setup not the other
[10:05] <zcat[1]> well that is seriously weird
[10:05] <UNewb> well when I goto my Bios, I can only choose my main HDD
[10:05] <Kaboontu> guys this file  tawycw.exe and its modification spread in my ubuntu ntfs hard drive? any tips?
[10:05] <UNewb> it doesn't show any appearance of my alternative HDD anywhere, as if it doesn't exist
[10:06] <ranjan> ActionParsnip :: thanks for help
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Kaboontu: define "spread"
[10:06] <Penguins> hello support. I had some sound problems, deleted pulseaudio, made a setup by some "howto". but i didn't manage to make myself a nice sound applet next to a clock. Please share some advice.
[10:06] <indus> Kaboontu: virus?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Kaboontu: you made a statement, not a question
[10:07] <indus> Penguins: hello customer :)
[10:07] <indus> hehe
[10:07] <Leoneof`> i've wlan0 for home network, and wlan1 for external network, i need gui software to handle both wireless, coz wicd is for onle wireless only
[10:07] <Kaboontu> ActionParsnip  ok sorry again :) guys when i delete it it comes again indiffrent folders
[10:07] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, ok but how should i fix now?  i tried editing fstab so there was no uuid and only /dev/id
[10:07] <Kaboontu> but the same files and its modifications
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Kaboontu: boot to live CD and you can mount the partitions, you can then delete the files
[10:08] <Penguins> indus, a customer? user would fit better i think, he.
[10:08] <Kaboontu> ActionParsnip i can delete it in diffrent way but they keep poping up
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: i've not used softraid so I'm no help dude.
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> !raid | arooni-mobile
[10:08] <cjadmin> Leoneof`, NetworkManager does not handle more devices?
[10:08] <indus> Penguins: hello user :)
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Kaboontu: tried in live CD?
[10:08] <Kaboontu> yep
[10:08] <indus> Kaboontu: yes clean it with clamav
[10:08] <indus> Kaboontu: is this a wine problem
[10:08] <Kaboontu> indus clam sees it?
[10:09] <Leoneof`> cjadmin: Network-manager not work for me, it cant detect networks :|
[10:09] <Penguins> indus, come on, share some advice, I know you can
[10:09] <Kaboontu> indus i guess couse its file extension is exe
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof`: you can define networks in /etc/network/interfaces    you will be able to define both connections there
[10:09] <indus> Kaboontu: its possible yes use avast linux to clean it
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Kaboontu: in linux, extensions don't mean much
[10:09] <indus> Kaboontu: clamav sucks
[10:09] <indus> Penguins: ok hi
[10:09] <Leoneof`> ActionParsnip, what do i write in that file?
[10:10] <indus> ActionParsnip: wine is capable of infection
[10:10] <indus> Penguins: what do you need exactly
[10:10] <Kaboontu> indus avast sees it?
[10:10] <indus> Kaboontu: should , install it first
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> indus: unless its an actual windows binary, the .exe doesnt automatically denote a binary
[10:10] <indus> ActionParsnip: yea sure
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof`: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[10:10] <indus> Kaboontu: do you use wine?
[10:10] <Kaboontu> ye
[10:10] <Kaboontu> s
[10:11] <indus> Kaboontu: ok
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof`: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=42296  for WEP
[10:11] <indus> Kaboontu: just download avast and see if that helps
[10:11] <Aperculum> my network manager has disabled the wireless on startup but it works fine if I just check the box "Enable wireless"
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Kaboontu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[10:12] <Leoneof`> ActionParsnip, thank you, i will try it
[10:12] <Aperculum> how can I make it remember that I want wireless installed
[10:12] <Penguins> indus, originallly there was an applet next to clock... that let me do sound. now, when i load ubuntu, that howto gave me a bundle of software for settings, but I don't have a nice little applet next to the clock. i thought i could install something from before 9.10, something that would not require pulseaudio to run.
[10:12] <AdvoWork> This may be a weird request, but is there any way to get to the bottom of the file straight away, if im using vim as the text editor?
[10:12] <Aperculum> enabled*
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof`: makes your system boot faster too as you wont have to run any network managing apps
[10:12] <indus> Penguins: yes that applet is deprecated , (iam not sure what it means though)
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof`: any interface you control there will not be managable via any gui tools
[10:13] <indus> Penguins: thats the problem with removing pulseaudio , you cant really control sound from an applet in karmic
[10:13] <indus> Penguins: aah ok got the question now
[10:13] <Leoneof`> ActionParsnip, i noticed that the boot is slow recently
[10:13] <Rajasun> AdvoWork: ther e r 500+ users in #vim
[10:13] <indus> Penguins: need volume control applet from older version
[10:13] <Leoneof`> ActionParsnip, oh i see @_@
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof`: but once you get the file nice it will be fine
[10:13] <Penguins> indus, well, let's install some applet from older version. how? (why not? - rhetorical)
[10:14] <Kaboontu> is it possible to see wine processes not ubuntus?
[10:14] <indus> AdvoWork: of course , pagedown?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Leoneof`: wpa is a little trickier but is possible
[10:15] <indus> Kaboontu: well under system monitor stop wineservices.exe
[10:15] <Leoneof`> ActionParsnip: i need to restart to use ubuntu , see you later ^_^
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> have fun
[10:16] <AdvoWork> indus, sorted, its G, page down would take approx 16 years
[10:16] <Kaboontu> windows suck...even through wine those sucked viruses comes in
[10:16] <Ubuntu> Thanks, Wikipedia. 	
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[10:16] <asmodeus_>     A person with Ubuntu is open and available to others, affirming of others, does not feel threatened that others are able and good, for he or she has a proper self-assurance that comes from knowing that he or she belongs in a greater whole and is diminished when others are humiliated or diminished, when others are tortured or oppressed.
[10:16] <asmodeus_> Archbishop Desmond Tutu further explained Ubuntu in 2008:
[10:16] <asmodeus_>     One of the sayings in our country is Ubuntu - the essence of being human. Ubuntu speaks particularly about the fact that you can't exist as a human being in isolation. It speaks about our interconnectedness. You can't be human all by yourself, and when you have this quality - Ubuntu - you are known for your generosity.
[10:16] <asmodeus_>     We think of ourselves far too frequently as just individuals, separated from one another, whereas you are connected and what you do affects the whole world. When you do well, it spreads out; it is for the whole of humanity.
[10:16] <FloodBot3> asmodeus_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:16] <indus> AdvoWork: a nice thing is man vimtutor
[10:16] <indus> AdvoWork: it is nice
[10:17] <Penguins> what is this "vim"?
[10:17] <Penguins> (apart from it being a text editor)
[10:17] <Ubuntu> Linux (commonly pronounced /ˈlɪnʌks/, LI-nuks in English,[5][6] also pronounced /ˈlɪnʊks/, LI-nooks[7]) is a generic term referring to Unix-like computer operating systems based on the Linux kernel. Their development is one of the most prominent examples of free and open source software collaboration;[citation needed] typically all the underlying source code can be used, freely modified, and redistributed, both commercially and non-commercially, by an
[10:17] <Ubuntu> Linux is predominantly known for its use in servers, although can be installed on a wide variety of computer hardware, ranging from embedded devices, mobile phones and even some watches[8] to supercomputers.[9] Linux distributions, installed on both desktop and laptop computers, have become increasingly commonplace in recent years, partly owing to the popular Ubuntu distribution[10] and the emergence of netbooks.[11]
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> oh dear
[10:17] <Ubuntu> The name "Linux" comes from the Linux kernel, originally written in 1991 by Linus Torvalds. The rest of the system usually comprises components such as the Apache HTTP Server, the X Window System, the GNOME and KDE desktop environments, and utilities and libraries from the GNU Project (announced in 1983 by Richard Stallman). Commonly-used applications with desktop Linux systems include the Mozilla Firefox web-browser and the OpenOffice.org office applicatio
[10:17] <Penguins> the difference from gedit, i.e.
[10:17] <Rajasun> this is the same asmodeus_ who recommended in main for users to do a rm -rf /bin
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> looks like they are out today
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[10:17] <Ubuntu>           o 1.1 Unix
[10:17] <zortec> is it safe to install 9.10 right over 9.04? I also thought of just doing a system upgrade, what do you suggest?
[10:17] <Ubuntu>           o 1.2 GNU
[10:17] <FloodBot3> Ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <Rajasun> !ops
[10:17] <Ubuntu>           o 1.3 MINIX
[10:18] <UNewb> well I thought setting up Ubuntu would be easier but this is quite difficult.... I can't figure out how to even partition my drive, and the second drive I can't even view/edit in any way outside of my windows desktop gahh
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: its only hard for you due to ignorance
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: its a new OS after year of windows use
[10:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> ActionParsnip, what's up friend?
[10:18] <UNewb> Yeah but Ubuntu is meant to be newb friendly I thought
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: it does its best, its by no means perfect
[10:19] <indus> UNewb: ubuntu is a newbie too and needs some cooperation from the user :)
[10:19] <zortec> ActionParsnip: It's nice to see you again.
[10:19] <Penguins> zortec, nothing is safe these days. especially upgrade from 9.04.
[10:19] <latka> hell, anyone there to help with NAS drives
[10:19] <UNewb> Well I can't even install it, I've been trying for hours now
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> zortec: and you bro
[10:19] <Penguins> indus, you forgot about me?
[10:19] <SpaceGhostC2C> UNewb: An operating system is only as smart as its user. In other words, if you can't figure it out, then you'll think it is dumb when in fact it isn't the OS.
[10:19] <zortec> Penguins: yeah, I have spent the last hour or two reading about ubuntu 9.10 and user experiences from upgrading and doing a clean install
[10:20] <Younder> Penguins, how many python versions do you have?
[10:20] <latka> Can anyone point me to some help with configuring a NAS drive ?
[10:20] <zortec> Penguins: I want to give the upgrade a try, but have ubuntu 9.10 running in virtualbox and have not had any issues and so was going to install karmic right over jaunty
[10:20] <UNewb> SpaceGhostC2C: So if I introduce you to a language that you can't speak and call you an idiot, you're going to learn how to speak it?
[10:20] <Penguins> zortec, if you can, just wait for 10.04.
[10:20] <UNewb> SpaceGhostC2C: Everyone starts somewhere, but installation of an OS shouldn't be so difficult as to require me to know lines of code which I haven't even been inside of the OS to learn yet
[10:20] <indus> Penguins: hi i don know
[10:21] <indus> Penguins: i tried to find it for me before and failed
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: everyone starts at the beginning and you will struggle
[10:21] <Penguins> zortec, if you can, that is. if not, just stop reading, install it any way you want and see how it goes. mine is buggy. but works somewhat.
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: its standard, but as you learn the OS, life gets a LOT easier
[10:21] <Younder> UNewb, I don't remember it being hard. It just installed and worked..
[10:21] <indus> UNewb: relax
[10:21] <zortec> having a strange problem with xchat though... when I hit the tab key it expands the nick out like so: ActionParsnip, instead of a :
[10:21] <UNewb> indus: I'm relaxed until someone like Spaceghost calls me an idiot.
[10:21] <Penguins> hello support. I had some sound problems, deleted pulseaudio, made a setup by some "howto". but i didn't manage to make myself a nice sound applet next to a clock. Please share some advice.
[10:21] <indus> UNewb: so lets see some output from fdisk -l hmm
[10:22] <Penguins> if anyone knows an option please share
[10:22] <indus> he did?
[10:22] <zortec> Penguins: I can wait for 10.04, just wonder if I'm missing out by not running the latest version... like to stay on the edge I guess
[10:22] <maco> Penguins: afaik, gnome's mixer applet only works with pulseaudio. you can use kde's. it's called kmix
[10:22] <Penguins> originallly there was an applet next to clock... that let me do sound. now, when i load ubuntu, that howto gave me a bundle of software for settings, but I don't have a nice little applet next to the clock. i thought i could install something from before 9.10, something that would not require pulseaudio to run.
[10:22] <latka> NAS drive help anyone ?
[10:22] <indus> SpaceGhostC2C: thats not nice
[10:22] <UNewb> I'm trying to use Linux because I like the idea behind it, but then I experience people's comments like that and it's putting me off it on top of the difficulty I've experienced
[10:22] <indus> UNewb: never mind him
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: to get your ntfs partition to mount you need to edit /etc/fstab as this file tells the system how to mount partitions. The system will then find /boot and use the info to boot
[10:22] <Penguins> zortec, if yours works - than you are not missing out really.
[10:22] <spin_> latka: what's a problem?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> !details | latka
[10:23] <indus> ActionParsnip: is his partition visible in fdisk?
[10:23] <frogzoo1> zortec: 100% recommend you do the upgrade instead, works well
[10:23] <crazybyte> Hello! I have some issue about booting and installing ubuntu server from an SATA DVD driver. It boots but it says that it cannot find any suitable DVD driver. It sees something but something that is not either IDE or SCSI. I tried to google it but I didn't find any useful idea that would allow me to boot in this configuration. Any wise advice or some pointers how to solve this issue? Thanks
[10:23] <zortec> Penguins, I do like some of the aesthetic changes such as the icon set
[10:23] <crazybyte> !
[10:23] <Younder> zortec, You are.. You will become a expert in debugging faulty installations. If you can pass on that why not wait?
[10:23] <latka> Spin .. I connected my NAS drive to the router and want to access it on 9.10
[10:23] <SpaceGhostC2C> indus, I didn't call him stupid, I said that his perceprtion of the operating system is equal to his knowledge of it.
[10:23] <zortec> frogzoo1: 100% and you recommend that because it worked for you?
[10:23] <spin_> I use samba to do this
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: can you provide the output of: sudo fdisk -l; mount     use: http://pastebin.com to give the output
[10:24] <indus> SpaceGhostC2C: aah well the statement you made kinda suggests it, we should avoid such things i feel
[10:24] <zortec> Younder: If it works in virtualbox, would it be safe to say that I will have no problems with 9.10?
[10:24] <spin_> latka do u share a folder on nas?
[10:24] <latka> Spin ... so configure SAMBA and I sould have the options I need ?
[10:24] <Penguins> zortec, oh, come one, the icon set should be no trouble to customize any way you want. go to gnome-art. all the interface is customizable.
[10:24] <indus> nvm back to topic
[10:24] <SpaceGhostC2C> indus, I'll keep an eye out for that. Thanks.
[10:24] <Younder> zorrolero, no
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: you will need to paste those to the terminal, you can also copy from the terminal
[10:24] <indus> UNewb: hello can i see the output of a command called fdisk -l
[10:24] <latka> No the drive was used via USB on Xp ,... now I want it on a shre via the router
[10:24] <spin_> latka I connect with this smb://NASIP/sharedfolder
[10:25] <Younder> zorrolero, You are less likely to have a problem with a new installation than with a upgrade
[10:25] <indus> UNewb: ok u follow ActionParsnip for now,
[10:25] <Penguins> zortec, no it would not.... vbox is not Your hardware...)) but the OS willl run, that's certain.
[10:25] <indus> so you dont get confused
[10:25] <zortec> penguins: yes, but does it not use your hardware when it emulates the os?
[10:25] <zortec> Penguins: That was my understanding of testing out a linux distro in vbox
[10:25]  * indus goes to get some apple milk shake
[10:25] <UNewb> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/da8a8554
[10:26] <UNewb> Can you see that?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: sure
[10:26] <latka> Spin .. I just type the info into the terminal
[10:26] <UNewb> indus: thanks, sorry I'm trying to keep up with everyone, I appreciate the help
[10:26] <blue_lines> Hiya all.
[10:26] <Ademan> if i have a headless server how, ideally, would i set up a vm running using qemu on it?  first i'd expect to run qemu as an unprivileged user, should i make a qemu user or does ubuntu have a user intended for running virtual machines? and then how should i best launch it?
[10:26] <Penguins> zortec, vbox is a virtual machine. in theory you could make the os insibe the vbox tothnk you are running it in a spacecraft. it's a "virtual machine"/virtual computer.
[10:27] <spin_> type URL in your file brower
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: if you run: cd /media/66B0F4C0B0F497AF; ls          do you see what you need access to?
[10:27] <blue_lines> I'm having some issues with Skype - namely, it doesn't seem to be capturing via the mic very well.
[10:27] <zortec> that is a really annoying bug and I wonder if it's related to 9.10, but in xchat when you press <tab> it expands the name with a "," and so you have to change it to a ":"... very odd
[10:27] <Penguins> zortec, like you can emulate nintendo on your pc, or emulate sony...
[10:28] <zortec> actually come to think of it, some of you are using a , instead of a : after the nick
[10:28] <Flannel> zortec: That's a configuration thing, the nick complete suffix/separator/whatever
[10:28] <Flannel> zortec: There's nothing wrong with using a comma, it still highlights just as well
[10:28] <zortec> Flannel: I just changed it, thanks
[10:28] <UNewb> ActionParsnip: I typed that, it shows what files are on my main hard drive
[10:29] <spin_> latka have u typed url in filebrowser?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: ok, the system isnt seeing the drive (and therefore not the partition/s)
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: if you reboot and go into BIOS, do you see 2 drives?
[10:29] <UNewb> Nope
[10:29] <UNewb> Never have lol
[10:29] <Penguins> blue_lines, try increasing the volume in recording. the volume in pulse mixer. the "capture" thing. Aaaand you might have to switch the mic that the system is using.
[10:29] <zortec> well, from what I read on the ubuntu forums there is like 16% that managed to upgrade without a hitch, another 15% managed to do a clean install, and the rest experienced a few problems or many problems when upgrading to karmic
[10:29] <spin_> if u want cd in terminal, u must mount samba drive
[10:30] <zortec> it's not a very clear indicator
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: very strange, you may find this is the issue. If the drive isnt shown in bios it won't be seen by the OS.
[10:30] <UNewb> I never was bothered to mess with it since I could use it just fine in Windows, but it always annoyed me that it never showed up during boot process nor in Bios
[10:30] <blue_lines> Penguins, I removed Pulseaudio because all the google results suggested it was responsible for the issues
[10:30] <spin_> Hey, people does someone use UBR9.10??????
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: ok reboot the system then when you get back round give the output of: dmesg      (it will be a lot but its all useful)
[10:31] <zortec> and most problems seem to be triggered from hardware issues, not to say I won't run into those problems, but the other reason I wanted to upgrade is that the LTR is not for another 4 months
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> spin_: many
[10:31] <Penguins> zortec, i did many installations. working on a laptop. something goes wrong all the time. But I found that in my case it really help, before the install, to unplug everything from the laptop - all usb and network. this way even pulse installed and skype is working.
[10:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> !ru | spin_
[10:31] <Penguins> zortec, THAT'S JUST MY PC....
[10:31] <UNewb> Reboot and then type dmesg in terminal?
[10:31] <zortec> Penguins: I would be doing the upgrade on a desktop
[10:31] <scunizi> zortec: and in your reading have you noticed a difference in success rates between gnome installs and kde installs? 32 bit vs 64 bit?.. the rate of failure for upgrades and fresh installs has a lot of factors..
[10:32] <zortec> scunizi: no I didn't take that into account, mainly gnome users were reporting their experiences
[10:32] <zortec> scunizi: I prefer gnome myself to kde though
[10:32] <Younder> zortec, well give it a spin, I did and I'm still here..
[10:32] <UNewb> ActionParsnip: Reboot and then type dmesg in terminal?
[10:32] <zortec> The only reservation I have about upgrading is I don't want to lose my ultra fast boot time in 9.04
[10:32] <Penguins> scunizi, there willl be more reports on the gnome installation since it's more popular...
[10:33] <zortec> apparently the boot time is faster in 9.10... if that is true
[10:33] <Younder> zortec, If something breaks, you know where to turn ;)
[10:33] <scunizi> zortec: if you're looking to upgrade and don't have a seperate /home partition then that is the first thing to consider.. create that in your current install and backup /home.. then do a fresh install without formatting /home
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: well, dmesg > ~/out.txt   is useful
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> UNewb: puts it in a file, easier to copy
[10:33] <Penguins> zortec, well... i'm just a user, don't listen to me, but here it is: you might loose some of that ultra-fast. depends on your hardware))
[10:33] <UNewb> ok rebooting now
[10:33] <Rajasun> zortec: right...depends on the hardware and things like what 3rd party even ppa apps r installed on the system. Dist-upgrading can be a hair raising experience on Ubuntu. Managed to sail through the last few including the most recent Jaunty to Karmic with help of aptitude and some manual interventions e.g. "sudo dpkg --force overwrite -i" but that's just me
[10:34] <Younder> scunizi, that will create more problems than a update..
[10:34] <zortec> scunizi: I created a separate /home partition the last time you guys helped me install jaunty
[10:34] <scunizi> zortec: that's good..
[10:34] <scunizi> Younder: not sure I follow any reasoning there..
[10:34] <Penguins> zortec, but you definitely will loose a couple of seconds))) you just will. you'll get em back in 10.04))) COMPLETE IMHO
[10:34] <zortec> really my question comes down to if I want to go through the whole 20 mins of doing a fresh install or taking my chances with a dist-upgrade
[10:35] <latka> SPIN .. error = firefox does not know this address as there ism\'t a program associated with "SMB"
[10:35] <Penguins> zortec you have a separate home, so just go ahead and do it!
[10:35] <speedmaster> hey guys, wondering if i can get some help re-instating grub2
[10:35] <erUSUL> !grub2 | speedmaster
[10:35] <zortec> I'm hesitant because this will be the first dist-upgrade I have done
[10:35] <scunizi> zortec: if you have the cd burned already fresh install is faster... by the way .. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to the next version..
[10:36] <spin_> Hey people i use UNR 9.10 on my HP5101(broadcom wifi) but kismet don't want turn my card in monitor mode
[10:36] <Younder> speedmaster, sounds excesive, what exactly is the problem?
[10:36] <spin_> how i can solute this trouble
[10:36] <perlmonkey> hi is anyone aware of any problems presently with Pidgin with regards to MSN? I'm unable to connect to the MSN server getting "protocol not supported" errors
[10:36] <zortec> scunizi: you can upgrade from the upgrade manager though... correct?
[10:37] <scunizi> zortec: yes there will be an option there.
[10:37] <Penguins> originallly there was an applet next to clock... that let me do sound. now, when i load ubuntu, that howto gave me a bundle of software for settings, but I don't have a nice little applet next to the clock. i thought i could install something from before 9.10, something that would not require pulseaudio to run. anyone knows the fix?
[10:37] <lightbricko> What does it mean to apply a "Label" to a file system on a secondary HDD? Will it get mounted with that name?
[10:37] <scunizi> zortec: if you want ext4 and grub2 you'll need a fresh install.. if that doesn't matter then the upgrade path may work for you..
[10:38] <zortec> I know that you don't get to take advantage of ext4 right away and even if you format one of your partitions from ext3 to ext4, it won't be in effect until the next time the file is used
[10:38] <MASARUwota> lightbricko: yes, you will see the name instead of "sda2" for example. you cannot mount it like that tho.
[10:38] <UNewb> ActionParsnip: Hello again
[10:38] <Rajasun> zortec: u can attempt a dist-upgrade but do have a copy of karmic downloaded and burned just in case. Be warned that if u have plenty of 3rd party/not-from-official Ubuntu repo packages installed, u may need to run "sudo dpkg --force overwrite -i" maybe even the need to dive into a few of the preinst, postinst scripts
[10:38] <Younder> scunizi, well I at least have tonns of stuff installed in addition to the standard distribution and reinstalling it all would take weeks
[10:38] <Penguins> zortec, 9.10 has lot's of changes - you don't really wanna upgrade i'd say. just don't format home and you shall be fine.
[10:38] <zortec> unfortunately, I haven't seen any really good reasons to change from GRUB to GRUB2
[10:38] <king> being root i can,t access network manager
[10:38] <maco> !u | Rajasun
[10:38] <lightbricko> MASARUwota: I see, thanks.
[10:38] <Rajasun> maco: yeah yeah
[10:38] <zortec> you also lose the ability to access your linux partitions from windows if you upgrade to GRUB2
[10:38] <perlmonkey> Pidgin..problems with MSN?
[10:39] <zortec> why a user needs to access linux partitions in windows? I don't know
[10:39] <frogzoo> zortec: wwaaat? don't believe it
[10:39] <scunizi> Younder: well that's a good reason.. however if any of that is from outside the ubuntu repos then you're dealing with the same issues.
[10:39] <speedmaster> Younder, think i've figured it out that wiki was kind of helpful than the other noob posts in ubuntu forums
[10:39] <king> Being  root i can't access network manager
[10:39] <frogzoo> does grub2 support the serial console, hmm?
[10:39] <speedmaster> Younder: going to try reboot and see if mbr is back
[10:39] <spin_> people help me with new broadcom wifi card please, i found only STA drivers
[10:40] <spin_> plz
[10:40] <zortec> ext4 is great for moving large files and probably supports some other advanced features which I didn't read about too much, but GRUB2 has introduced several problems with editing the menu.lst file
[10:40] <DrManhattan> I have a system with an intel integrated graphics controller and ubuntu 9.10 gives me a black screen when it loads
[10:40] <king> plz, somebody help me, being root i can't access network manager
[10:40] <DrManhattan> I put the thing in fixed mode
[10:41] <DrManhattan> gave it 256mb ram dedicated to it
[10:41] <king> i messed with chown
[10:41] <spin_> king is it runned?
[10:41] <DrManhattan> nothing seems to make it load
[10:41] <MASARUwota> king: ? what did you run?
[10:41] <king> i given chown -hR root /
[10:41] <scunizi> zortec: that's 'cause in grub2 you don't edit the menu.lst file in /boot/grub .. it's done in a different location now. and menu.lst is dynamically generated.
[10:41] <king> i given chown -hR root /
[10:41] <ntemis> hello
[10:41] <king> now i can't access network manager
[10:41] <Penguins> zortec, "but GRUB2 has introduced several problems with editing the menu.lst file"  it's just grub.conf or something now. just go and install it already, you'll figure it out and will find out yourself.
[10:41] <MASARUwota> king: what does that have to do with running network manager? :S
[10:41] <ntemis> i need some help please
[10:42] <Younder> DrManhattan, Well if that bothers you in the grub meny over the first entry type e and remove the quiet option and you should get more feedback
[10:42] <zortec> scunizi: can you point me to any good reasons why to take advantage of ext4 over ext3 or GRUB2 over GRUB3?
[10:42] <MASARUwota> ntemis: please state your problem
[10:42] <maco> zortec: its /boot/grub/grub.cfg instead of menu.lst
[10:42] <zortec> scunizi: my guess is for the average user, they would be perfectly fine with ext3 and the original GRUB
[10:42] <king> That was a option in administration
[10:42] <ntemis> when i power on my pc on ubuntu 9.04 says that i must check my hdd for errors
[10:42] <maco> zortec: ext4 is faster
[10:42] <andrep> #asterisk
[10:42] <ntemis> and stays there stuck
[10:42] <king> And i can't access user and groups
[10:42] <maco> zortec: and i think grub2 supports booting from lvm
[10:42] <ntemis> i am now on ubuntu 9.04 live cd
[10:43] <scunizi> zortec: probably.. I haven't made the jump yet..
[10:43] <ntemis> and i can access my hdd
[10:43] <frogzoo> how much faster is ext4 > ext3 ?
[10:43] <ntemis> is there something i can do to fix this problem?
[10:43] <king> my error is "you are not allowed to access the sustem confguration"
[10:43] <MASARUwota> king: so, you made yoru root a normal user? or what
[10:43] <maco> king: users and groups must be run as a normal user, then you click teh unlock button.  why on earth are you logged into gnome as root?
[10:44] <maco> MASARUwota: users&groups doesnt work when run with sudo or just plain as root. has to be a normal user who launches it. its a bug
[10:44] <Rajasun> zortec: to each his own...I'm waiting for btrfs to mature and will ant to switch when it does
[10:44] <zortec> going to boot into 9.04 and double check that I created a /home partition
[10:44] <MASARUwota> maco: i see =)
[10:44] <zortec> do we know what new features to expect in lucid lynx?
[10:44] <king> i did this command, chown -hR root /
[10:44] <ntemis> it says my hdd has boot more than 36 times and needs to check it and then is stuck there doing nothing
[10:44] <king> That's the problem
[10:44] <maco> king: O_O
[10:44] <zortec> when it comes to the bootloader and filesystems
[10:44] <ntemis> boot
[10:44] <king> Now how to recover my root powers
[10:44] <ntemis> 36 times booted
[10:44] <ntemis> and then stucks there
[10:44] <MASARUwota> ntemis: then it will check it automaticly
[10:45] <MASARUwota> thats the idea
[10:45] <MASARUwota> ;/
[10:45] <maco> king: reinstall's the only way to recover from that, short of manually going through every single one of the thousands of files on your system and setting them to the right user
[10:45] <Penguins> zortec you can double check that when the installation runs partition manager
[10:45] <ntemis> but stucks there doing nothing
[10:45] <andrep> #asterisk
[10:45] <DrManhattan> how can I get gnome to load up?
[10:45] <zortec> Penguins: so you can install right over 9.04?
[10:45] <ntemis> is there a fix?
[10:45] <zortec> to me that would be risky
[10:46] <king> Ya, that was my problem, is there any restore option
[10:46] <Penguins> well you could. but I would do a format. but you could. it works too.
[10:46] <maco> king: find a listing somewhere online (maybe??) of every single file on the system and what user should own it, then chown them each individually to the right user
[10:46] <maco> king: thats the only option
[10:46] <maco> king: except to just reinstall
[10:46] <scunizi> zortec: Penguins that's what I was suggestion earlier.. install right over 9.04 but *don't* format /home..
[10:46] <Eddie``> Hello all, i was running NX Server to access my dedi.. it seems to have crashed, and i cannot figure out how to restart it.
[10:47] <MASARUwota> ntemis: looking for it atm
[10:47] <bishops> someone tried to update Google Chromium on karmic and is having graphic problems?
[10:47] <speedmaster> hmm grub still not running
[10:47] <Penguins> zortec, well you could. but I would do a format. but you could. it works too. and not that risky since installer will delete lots of stuff. but format is better.
[10:47] <maco> king: you just made it so that no services can write *anywhere* on the disk because they dont run as root
[10:47] <Younder> maco: that sounds insane..
[10:47] <king> okay tell, which user belogs to /proc
[10:47] <blue_lines> Okay, well skype is now recording me, but the sound is really terrible.
[10:47] <zortec> why don't you want to format /home? I'm not following all the partition information
[10:47] <maco> king: /proc is virtual. ignore that. /dev and /sys too
[10:47] <blue_lines> it's static ridden and nearly impossible to understand
[10:47] <MASARUwota> ntemis: you should try tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/yourdevice
[10:48] <maco> king: you wanna go through 300 files in /etc and several thousand in /usr, /lib, /bin.. individually?
[10:48] <Penguins> zortec cause your application setttings and user files are in /home
[10:48] <MASARUwota> ntemis: which disables the auto check that ext3 has
[10:48] <zortec> are my custom themes stored in /home?
[10:48] <MASARUwota> which i presume you are using?
[10:48] <Nemie> Hi, I'm having a problem that might not be possible to fix without reinstall, but I'll ask anyway. I installed a virtual Ubuntu server in ESXi and when I was asked about what/how network I wanted to use, I chose wrong. I realised this after the installation was finished and now even I change to the right "network"(NIC) it cannot find network, or the "networkcard", just get lo inside the os. Do you know if this is fixable?
[10:48] <Penguins> zortec if you don't need to save anything, and have a nice backup, then do a complete format and be happy
[10:48] <scunizi> zortec: /home is where all your data lives.. mostly everything you create.. if you don't have a backup it'll be lost.. by not formatting /home your data remains intact
[10:48] <maco> king: itd take you days
[10:48] <king> tell me some good website.. recover my system
[10:48] <Eddie``> Hi all, my dedicated server seems to have stopped NX Server from running.. now i can't connect to it using NX Client.   I am in SSH, and have been looking around in forums about how to restart it, but i have had no success.
[10:49] <Penguins> zortec, i am not sure...
[10:49] <Penguins> good night guys
[10:49] <maco> king: i dont know of a website that lists every file and its correct owner. on the theory that anything exists on the internet, it exists. practically, i really doubt it
[10:49] <maco> king: seriously, just reinstall
[10:49] <zortec> Penguins: thanks for the help
[10:49] <andrep> i should join in the channel asterisk. with??
[10:49] <maco> king: if youre worried about losing /home, dont be worried, you can tell the installer to keep it
[10:49] <scunizi> Eddie``: are you talking about 2 seperate machines? if so how did one stop the other?
[10:49] <Penguins> zortec but you can definitely save them in you /home partition just for the move
[10:50] <Penguins> zortec, "Just Do It"(C)
[10:50] <Younder> maco, I'd use find . -exec chown whatever {} \;
[10:50] <king> even i broke that /home dir
[10:50] <Psinetic> HELP!!! my desktop menu's just disapeared!!! :S Ubuntu 9.10 64bit
[10:50] <maco> king: home you at least know who the users should be
[10:50] <Eddie``> scunizi: I was accessing my dedi, and i did something that stopped NX Server unexpectedly
[10:50] <king> I was mad.. now i'm suffering
[10:50] <DrManhattan> how do I get 9.10 to boot into safe graphics mode?
[10:50] <king> ya, i'm the user
[10:50] <scunizi> Eddie``: what's a dedi?
[10:50] <maco> king: /home should be root yeah, but /home/king you can do "chown -R king /home/king" other than that...reinstall
[10:50] <Penguins> Psinetic, right click on the panel will help....
[10:50] <Eddie``> scunizi: a dedicated server
[10:50] <Psinetic> there is no panel
[10:50] <Psinetic> they are gone
[10:51] <bishops> someone tried to update Google Chromium on karmic and is having graphic problems?
[10:51] <Penguins> ))))))
[10:51] <Eddie``> scunizi: running ubuntu desktop 8.x
[10:51] <maco> king: outside of /home, knowing the proper owner is going to be extremely difficult
[10:51] <DrManhattan> how do I get 9.10 to boot into safe graphics mode?
[10:51] <Eddie``> i think
[10:51] <king> yes
[10:51] <Penguins> Psinetic, good job.
[10:51] <maco> Younder: the trouble is not knowing which user to chown it *to* on thousands upon thousands of files
[10:51] <Psinetic> Penguins, how about not being a jerk and just help >_>
[10:51] <king> :( ... i'm in trouble now
[10:52] <verbatim> My USB external hard drive has been working fine ever since I got it, but as of today, it no longer auto-mounts. I can see it in GParted, and i can try "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt", and the light will flash but I cannot see it in the menu. Wat do?
[10:52] <DrManhattan> how do I get 9.10 to boot into safe graphics mode?
[10:52] <scunizi> Eddie``: still confused .. do you have 2 servers? one ubuntu and one NX (as in linux server, FreeNX server ) what?
[10:52] <maco> king: you can fix /home easily. the rest is going to require a reinstall
[10:52] <Younder> maco, so what happed to his groups/permissions?
[10:52] <indus> DrManhattan: go into recovery console from boot options
[10:52] <king> well, can i do that through netinstall
[10:52] <maco> Younder: *all* owners reset to root
[10:52] <indus> DrManhattan: then edit the xorg file and and use vesa as driver
[10:52] <Psinetic> so um....what do i need to do to get my menus back on?
[10:53] <DrManhattan> indus - on the ubuntu cd?
[10:53] <Younder> maco, sounds like a reinstall.
[10:53] <maco> king: ive never used a text installer when not partitioning / but its the same backend, so it should work
[10:53] <Penguins> Psinetic, a little sarcasm, said with a smile does not equal to verbal insults from you. I really mean "good job". I just have to leave now.
[10:53] <maco> king: just choose to manually partition, use the same partition as /, and choose not to format
[10:53] <indus> DrManhattan: no
[10:53] <maco> king: itll then keep your home so you dont lose data
[10:53] <DrManhattan> ok here's a fun issue - (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[10:53] <maco> Younder: thats what ive been saying
[10:53] <indus> Psinetic: log out and login again
[10:53] <Psinetic> Penguins, sorry, it seemed like you were being rude. i apologize
[10:53] <scunizi> Eddie``: if you're ssh'd into a server and want to restart the whole thing then sudo /etc/init.d/restart now .. if you only want to restart apache then .. sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:53] <indus> DrManhattan: what are you trying to do?
[10:54] <king> so, i should not format that right
[10:54] <maco> king: right
[10:54] <DrManhattan> indus, im trying to get ubuntu 9.10 x64 to load
[10:54] <king> :(  /// thank you anyway
[10:54] <DrManhattan> just booting the cd
[10:54] <Psinetic> indus, how do i sign out when i can't get to anything that allows me to logout?
[10:54] <indus> DrManhattan: from live cd? oh ok then press f4 and you will find more options
[10:54] <king> i need netselet, how to make that
[10:54] <DrManhattan> ok
[10:55] <indus> Psinetic: press ctl-alt-del
[10:55] <Younder> king, netselect?
[10:55] <indus> Psinetic: or,, press alt-f2 and type xterm
[10:56] <king> sorry , i was totally confused.. i need netinstall
[10:56] <Darky> Hi guys, I have the following problem: I want to use Kdevelop on Ubuntu9.10, but there is a really strange problem with the syntax highlighting on c++ code. When I turn off Highlighthing(Tools->Highlighting->None), the code is still colored. But this colors have nothing to do with my schema-settings. So if i turn on highlighting, my configured colors and the "other" colors overlay eachother. In other words, my code is allways sparklin
[10:56] <Younder> king, the usual ./configure, make, make install?
[10:56] <bishops> just updated chromium on karmic and im having graphic problems, anyone has an idea of what is happening?
[10:57] <king> What?
[10:57] <maco> Younder: what are yout alking about?
[10:57] <maco> !mini | king
[10:57] <Ademan> bishops: pages are rendering with graphical errors? like corrupt images and stuff? me too
[10:57] <maco> king: thats the disc you need
[10:57] <Ademan> bishops: sounds like they released a sour update
[10:57] <bishops> Ademan: yes and when i try to log onto gmail
[10:58] <Psinetic> what is "ICEauthority"?
[10:58] <bishops> Ademan: yes I guess.. can one revert to the old one?
[10:58] <king> maco: is that okay for a good system.
[10:58] <maco> king: aye
[10:58] <king> i should not format /
[10:58] <maco> king: right
[10:59] <king> if my /home inside /? means?
[10:59] <Younder> Psinetic, what is google ;)
[10:59] <Ademan> bishops: a good way might be to disable the PPA for the moment and go back to the "stock" chromium version
[10:59] <maco> king: yes
[10:59] <maco> king: if your /home is separate then go ahead and format / if you like
[10:59] <Psinetic> google's a search engine. ;) so what is ICEauthority? ;)
[10:59] <bishops> Ademan: ah ok thanks. by the way if I want a really light browser what should I get you think? I'm using a mini notebook.
[11:00] <king> What will happen i did'nt /, all files replaced by new?
[11:00] <king> What will happen i did'nt format /, all files replaced by new?
[11:00] <maco> king: should be, yeah
[11:00] <maco> king: its supposed to replace anything thats not /home
[11:00] <king> i afraid of old files, they should not present
[11:00] <scunizi> bishops: links2 is cli and can be run graphically with links2 -g in a gui.. very lightweight.. strips a lot of the unneccessary stuff
[11:00] <Ademan> bishops: i used epiphany for a while it was pretty quick, but chromium's kinda where it's at haha
[11:01] <king> its a raw cd image, how to start install it
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> king: install bleachbit then :D
[11:01] <king> well, i saves that image in my desktop
[11:02] <maco> king: burn it
[11:02] <SandGorgon> guys.. i'm on Hardy Server. I have a service installed that I want to disable - but NOT uninstall. How do I do that?
[11:02] <scunizi> SandGorgon: what's the service?
[11:02] <indus> Psinetic: http://linux.die.net/man/1/iceauth
[11:03] <indus> Psinetic: did you get the menus back?
[11:03] <king> is there any option rather than burn, bcoz i cn't do these things in office
[11:03] <maco> king: can you setup a pxe server to boot from?
[11:03] <scunizi> king you could put it on a usb stick
[11:03] <Psinetic> indus, yes i did. i have no idea why they crashed like that. would this iceauth have something to do with my kernel getting all screwed up? still haven't figured out how to fix that
[11:03] <scunizi> SandGorgon: sudo /etc/init.d/<service> stop
[11:04] <king> well, tell me how to setup pxe server and hoe to proceed it
[11:04] <SandGorgon> scunizi, that stops it.. but it will still enable on next restart. how to disable it ?
[11:04] <Orion777> anyone know how I upgrade my kde version?
[11:04] <indus> Psinetic: no its somethingto do with authorisations when user logins etc
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> king: you can use usb
[11:04] <Psinetic> oh ok
[11:04] <SandGorgon> !kubuntu > Orion777
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> king: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/
[11:04] <king> Usb access not allowed in office
[11:04] <bishops> Ademan: yes I feel Chromium is the best.. what
[11:04] <bishops> 's wrong with their update!
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> king: then you are stuck
[11:05] <Ademan> does ubuntu server come with a user intended for running qemu instances or general virtual machine software?
[11:05] <maco> king: do you work the nsa?
[11:05] <king> :(
[11:05] <maco> king: or fbi?
[11:05] <DrManhattan> I am downloading the fedora live cd now, if it loads up when ubuntu doesn't, im going to declare you guys pwn3d
[11:05] <king> :) , not like that
[11:05] <maco> king: i mean, how did you get it installed in the first place?
[11:05] <king> my admin did that first installation
[11:06] <Orion777> sandgorgon, noone is in #kubuntu
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: its just an Ubuntu OS with a PAE enabled kernel and no desktop
[11:06] <scunizi> SandGorgon: good question.. not sure.. with a gui it'd be under "services" which I'm sure edits a conf file someplace that auto starts stuff.. that I think is what you're looking to edit
[11:06] <king> he doesn't know these problems
[11:06] <SandGorgon> scunizi, correct.
[11:06] <king> i put on my head, and i want to clear this
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: you can install a virtual server like ESX or qemu as you wish from there
[11:07] <SandGorgon> Orion777, 'sudo apt-get upgrade' should do it
[11:07] <Younder> DrManhattan, good luck, but I doubt it. Ubuntu run's of the widest range of macines.
[11:07] <DrManhattan> well it aint running on my usual linux box
[11:07] <DrManhattan> worked on my laptop well enough
[11:07] <indus> DrManhattan: please use nick when you address someone
[11:07] <indus> !who | DrManhattan
[11:08] <king> maco: well, i told this problem to my admin, he accepted me to use pendrive
[11:08] <DrManhattan> indus, blow me.
[11:08] <king> Is there any special conf for pendrive
[11:08] <citrix> Is there a way to compress file system like when you compress ntfs in windows
[11:08] <indus> oh crap
[11:08] <DrManhattan> :))
[11:08] <king> What should i do?
[11:08] <maco> king: use the usb-creator
[11:08] <FireCrotch> king: You can use unetbootin to set up your pendrive to do the install
[11:09] <indus> iam not sure what you mean
[11:09] <Orion777> sandgorgon, it didn't install anything
[11:09] <Ademan> ActionParsnip: certainly, it's just there's a postgres user that postgres runs as, and www-data for web data (i don't remember if apache actually runs as that user or not) but my point is that if ubuntu has a user intended for running qemu or other virtualization software, i'd like to use it
[11:09] <SandGorgon> scunizi, found it - sysv-rc-conf. quite nice
[11:09] <king> how to do that?
[11:09] <king> is that a software?
[11:09] <Orion777> it said upgraded 0, installed 0
[11:09] <scunizi> SandGorgon: yep found another.. http://www.ghacks.net/2009/11/04/starting-services-at-boot-in-linux/
[11:09] <king> can i apt it?
[11:10] <FireCrotch> king: Yes, both usb-creator and unetbootin are programs. they do the same thing, essentially
[11:10] <SandGorgon> scunizi, thanks
[11:10] <scunizi> SandGorgon: the link I gave shows an easier way then editing the conf file.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: not sure but you can certainly add yourself to groups to get access as well as make groups to then apply to stuff to give you access
[11:10] <king> is that in ubuntu repo?
[11:10] <wanted> how to chmod the 2 users from 2 groups at a single time
[11:10] <king> can i apt it from repo
[11:11] <wanted> how to chmod the 2 users from 2 groups at a single tim
[11:11] <FireCrotch> king: if you are using ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10, I *believe* you have usb-creator installed already, but if not, you can just use apt to install either one, yes
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> wanted: do you mean chown? to give ownership?
[11:11] <SandGorgon> scunizi, sysv-rc-conf is a cmd-line utility. quite nice
[11:11] <king> i'm using lts hardy
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> wanted: chmod dictates the access the 3 groups have (owner, group, all)
[11:12] <wanted> ActionParsnip: , for a single user we do like this na, sudo chown wanted:wantd test folder, but for 2 or more users
[11:12] <mefiX> hey guys! how can i get the latest xorg-server with the latest xf86-video-intel under karmic?
[11:12] <Ademan> ActionParsnip: yeah, i just didn't want to make a 'qemu' user if there was already a 'vmrunner' user or something, you know?
[11:13] <wanted> actionparsnip: ok i can control using the permissions for group, owner, others, right? i got it
[11:13] <indus> mefiX: use the ppa
[11:13] <king> is that progarm avail for hardy?
[11:13] <FireCrotch> king: Oh, neither unetbootin or usb-creator are in hardy
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> wanted: you can't do that. You will have to make a group, add the 2 users + root to the group then run: sudo chown wanted:new_group test  then give sufficient access to the group, wanted will be the owner but the users in the group will also have access
[11:13] <mefiX> indus: ppa?
[11:13] <scunizi> SandGorgon: also sudo update-rc.d sshd remove as an example.. but it's along the same lines.. :)
[11:14] <wanted> ActionParsnip: ho, but we cannot give access to the users belongs to 2 groups
[11:14] <indus> mefiX: yes wait 1 secc
[11:14] <cheoni> How can I remove programs from my computer?
[11:14] <king> ya, i can't those programs in hardy repo
[11:14] <wanted> ok, i got it
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> wanted: the other groups the users belong to doesnt matter
[11:15] <FireCrotch> king: you should be able to use the version of unetbootin from here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/
[11:15] <wanted> actionparsnip: thanks
[11:15] <indus> mefiX: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> wanted: you are chowning a group to have access to it, wanted is a user and a group (with wanted as its only member) so that only you will have access if the chmod is wanted:wanted
[11:16] <jerknextdoor> cheoni: sudo apt-get remove programname
[11:16] <wanted> ActionParsnip: i got the idea, its perfect,
[11:16] <king> Thankyou :)
[11:16] <king> Download in progress
[11:16] <FireCrotch> king: You're welcome :)
[11:16] <cheoni> jerknextdoor: thanks. I am having a world of problems getting rid of flash player.
[11:16] <mefiX> indus: thx
[11:16] <DrManhattan> Lindsay?
[11:17] <king> download over
[11:17] <king> whether i have to execute it?
[11:17] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[11:18] <jerknextdoor> cheoni: ah.  i cant be much help.  im not at my comp, im on my phone trying this irc app out.
[11:18] <DrManhattan> Holy fucking shit!
[11:18] <MASARUwota> oh whow
[11:18] <bazhang> DrManhattan, watch the language
[11:18] <cheoni> jerknextdoor: irc app on your phone? That is freakin awesome.
[11:18] <indus> !language
[11:19] <DrManhattan> bazhang, im watching it - whats the problem?
[11:19] <bazhang> DrManhattan, no cursing here.
[11:19] <jerknextdoor> cheoni:  yeah just got my first android phone and its awesome.
[11:19] <mattik> is there ati restricted drivers for ati xpress 1150?
[11:20] <Quan-Time_> wow.. full of awesome
[11:20] <Younder> wanted: say i want several users to have acess to a file but not everyone. I make a group.Add the group to the users grops. Change all files in that directory to belong to that group.
[11:20] <DrManhattan> bazhang, im taking a while guess here and saying english isnt your primary language
[11:21] <indus> mattik: not in 9.10
[11:21] <mattik> indus: thank you. is it coming
[11:21] <indus> mattik: it will never, AMD has dropped support for older chips in their latest drivers
[11:21] <mattik> ok
[11:22] <indus> mattik: tell me more
[11:22] <indus> mattik: is nt the open radeon drivers working for you?
[11:22] <mattik> indus: yes. it is default?
[11:23] <indus> mattik: yes
[11:23] <mattik> indus: ok. I use it then
[11:23] <indus> mattik: but many games might not run on it
[11:23] <scunizi> DrManhattan: despite what might be a late hour for you, others in this channel are from different parts of the world.  This channel is committed to maintaining a family friendly atmosphere.. that means no swearing, foul language, 4 letter words.. etc.. kids come in here for help.. they don't need the exposure..
[11:24] <frogzoo1> word is a four letter word
[11:24] <laumonier> owned
[11:25] <scunizi> allright allright.. it's an acronym
[11:25] <mefiX> indus: can u tell me the difference between "X Updates" and "xorg-edgers" ppa? I can't find their version numbers for xorg e.g...!?
[11:26] <indus> mefiX: whatever is written on their page is all i can tell you, xorg edgers iis more bleeding edge
[11:28] <strayhyena> so that means nobody here can be he-man?
[11:29] <laeg> !firewall
[11:29] <cetanu> that's hot
[11:30] <strayhyena> b-b-b-b-but cold too
[11:31] <bazhang> strayhyena, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[11:32] <strayhyena> i was wondering if there was a way to enable the rest of my FN keys on my keyboard, only some of them are recognized by the keyboard shortcuts tool thing
[11:32] <speedmaster> Hi guys, still need help with grub2 re-instate after XP wiped mbr http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/337183/ here's what i've done so far to no avail - I am most likely missing something obvious been at it a while now...
[11:32] <Younder> strayhyena, yes, there is
[11:33] <cetanu1> lol oh wow i just realised how awesome i am
[11:33] <cetanu1> firewall... "that's hot" get it? ahaha.
[11:33] <bazhang> !ot | cetanu1
[11:33] <cetanu1> what's that do
[11:33] <cetanu1> oh thanks
[11:33] <FloodBot4> cetanu1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <bazhang> cetanu1, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:33] <cetanu1> yes sir
[11:34] <king> maco: Are you there?
[11:34] <king> maco: i'm looking for you
[11:35] <enrique> hello. I have changed some .desktop files by hand in my ~/.local/shared/applications, what does it take for them to be taken into account by gnome menu?
[11:35] <speedmaster> any joy on grub2 issue? =D
[11:35] <MASARUwota> speedmaster: what issue?
[11:35] <speedmaster> Hi guys, still need help with grub2 re-instate after XP wiped mbr http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/337183/ here's what i've done so far to no avail - I am most likely missing something obvious been at it a while now...
[11:36] <Charles_Knight> Hi - anyone know if it is possible to access 'the cloud' and 'openzone' via Ubunutu using an 02 3g dongle? I can get the 3g bit to work fine but have no idea what the settings should be to access wifi when I'm out and about (obviously under windows it's done by the 02 connection manager)
[11:36] <speedmaster> enrique: kill and restart gdm?
[11:36] <Younder> strayhyena, in .xstartup set xmodmap
[11:36] <enrique> speedmaster, is that a question? :)
[11:37] <Younder> strayhyena, I use the -e option
[11:37] <speedmaster> enrique: also a suggestion =D
[11:38] <KostyaXu> anyone familiar with xubuntu ?
[11:38] <enrique> gdm-restart: not supported
[11:38] <speedmaster> nah
[11:38] <speedmaster> do /etc/init.d/gdm stop then /etc/inti.d/gdm start
[11:38] <MASARUwota> KostyaXu: depends on what your problem is :-p
[11:39] <speedmaster> ignore my typo
[11:39] <speedmaster> should be /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:39] <Younder> strayhyena, ex: xmodmap -e "remove mod4 = F13"; xmodmap -e "keycode 115 = Super_L"; xmodmap -e "keycode 115 = Super_L". to enable the windows button for example
[11:39] <nperry> speedmaster: /etc/init.d is old
[11:39] <KostyaXu> << has xubuntu 9.10.  Installed "Cups Wrapper drivers for extra brother printers"  from synaptic package manager...my brother printer still won't print.
[11:40] <nperry> sudo service gdm start, is the new! speedmaster
[11:40] <speedmaster> lol thanks for the update!
[11:40] <nperry> Well in karmic onwards!
[11:41] <speedmaster> ahh
[11:41] <speedmaster> yeah haven't had the need to kill gdm on karmic yet
[11:41] <speedmaster> hmm, still no joy on my grub2 issue?
[11:41] <speedmaster> might have to go back to grub
[11:41] <lightbricko> When mounting another HDD, how do I prevent the icon for the volume to be displayed on the desktop?
[11:41] <zortec> please tell me there is a way to change that brown color in ubuntu 9.10 on the progress bar...
[11:42] <KostyaXu> did they make changes to cups printing in 9.10, because my brother extra package isn't working (it worked on 9.04).
[11:42] <tabgal> has anyone seen this?? http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?26,28362,28706
[11:42] <tabgal> last night upgrade broke my machine like that
[11:43] <mado> howdy folks! ... can anyone help me so that i can import my old emails in thunderbird?
[11:43] <KostyaXu> I wish these pricks would test this shit before they release it !
[11:43] <speedmaster> oh yeah had that in jaunty as well
[11:43] <bazhang> KostyaXu, watch the language please
[11:43] <mado> i tried the ol' "move files and folders"-tactic ... but it doesn't seem to work
[11:43] <Younder> tabgal, You need the propriatary (but free) NVidea driver
[11:43] <speedmaster> you probably need to purge nvidia drivers and re install
[11:43] <enrique> speedmaster, cool it closed desktop :) something less drastic maybe? :)
[11:43] <tabgal> Younder, nope, not an nvidia card
[11:44] <tabgal> Younder in fact it's complaining about axis in a keyboard
[11:44] <nperry> lightbricko: run gconf-editor, nce Gconf is loaded, expand apps > nautilus > desktop. Once you’ve selected desktop, you’ll notice some options on the right-hand side. The options with checkboxes are of interest here. Checking or unchecking these checkboxes shows or hides the relevant desktop icons. You can show and hide desktop icons for computer, home, network, trash, and mounted volumes.
[11:44] <speedmaster> enrique: did it update your menu's?
[11:44] <tabgal> Younder, and if I unplug the keyboard the problem stays the same
[11:44] <KostyaXu> installing drivers is a bastard of a job in linux...
[11:44] <lightbricko> nperry: Thanks!
[11:44] <enrique> speedmaster, sure ;)
[11:44] <nperry> lightbricko: no probs.
[11:45] <KostyaXu> looks like more googling for answers...ho humm
[11:45] <piojun> sd
[11:45] <enrique> but it closed everything too :)
[11:45] <zortec> have a question about how much space to allocate to ubuntu... right now using a 100gb partition, is that too much?
[11:45] <speedmaster> enrique: i could of said reboot your machine, but you only needed to restart gdm
[11:45] <speedmaster> enrique: my bad should of warned you
[11:45] <piojun> can any one help me.. i have problem burning my desktop-ubuntu.iso.. is there a way to burn the iso fil correctly?
[11:46] <cetanu1> it should ask u whether to burn the iso or contents, yeh?
[11:46] <cetanu1> burn the contents
[11:46] <zortec> piojun, what is the problem? I just burned an iso without any problems
[11:46] <speedmaster> piojun: what program are you using to burn it?
[11:46] <enrique> speedmaster, not serious, just that editing the menu with the application does not require to restart gdm, so I wonder if there is a better way to tell the menu "refresh please"
[11:46] <piojun> the iso i burned is not bootable
[11:46] <Younder> speedmaster, /etc/init.d/gpm restart?
[11:46] <nperry> zortec: Depends on how much Documents your going to have
[11:46] <piojun> i used nero from windows to burn it
[11:46] <KostyaXu> I installed Ubuntu Studio 9.10 in about 8 gigs.  That's enough...  You need more partition space if you want to video files etc that take lots of space
[11:47] <zortec> nperry, that is true but just wondering if 100gb is too much space to give to ubuntu
[11:47] <nperry> Including, apps, music and pictures etc
[11:47] <nperry> Its plenty!
[11:47] <bazhang> zortec, not really; you should consider a separate /home partition though
[11:47] <piojun> burn the contents? intstead of the .iso file?
[11:47] <bazhang> piojun, no burn the iso
[11:47] <zortec> on my 100gb right now checking from livecd, I have 83.6gb free
[11:47] <Rajasun> Ok guys, I have 2 questions. I used to know this but somehow cannot now recall.
[11:47] <speedmaster> piojun: yea in nero you need to select the iso tab in the burning rom program and open iso file then burn
[11:47] <Rajasun> 1. How can I tell how many packages I have installed on my Ubuntu box from the commandline?
[11:47] <Rajasun> 2. How can I find out the total number of packages available for install in each of the "main", "restricted", "universe", "multiverse", "karmic-updates", "karmic-updates", "karmic-backports" and "karmic-security" repos again, from the commandline?
[11:47] <nperry> zortec: For exmaple my desktop is / has 80gb and /home is on a different hdd with 500gb! Overkill but i've got alot of music
[11:47] <FloodBot3> Rajasun: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <Younder> zortec, depends what you do..
[11:48] <zortec> that is from my linux partition I installed jaunty on
[11:48] <speedmaster> other wise you are just dumpin the .iso file to a cd
[11:48] <Younder> zortec, I use about 22 Gb
[11:48] <zortec> what do you mean by a separate home partition? is there a way to see how my partitions are broken up?
[11:48] <speedmaster> Hi guys, still need help with grub2 re-instate after XP wiped mbr http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/337183/ here's what i've done so far to no avail - I am most likely missing something obvious been at it a while now...
[11:48] <zortec> from within the ubuntu livecd that is
[11:49] <Younder> zortec, If You start recoring videoes etc.. 500 Gb might start to seem skimpy
[11:49] <bazhang> zortec, sure; if you have a separate home partition, then you can reinstall / and your personal files will not be wiped
[11:49] <nperry> zortec: Normally its just / but i wanted my /home on a different hard drive. so you just set the mount point
[11:49] <zortec> ok, the mount point is /home then
[11:49] <piojun> !seen aperson
[11:50] <zortec> but I'm not sure if this is right, it's telling me that 83.6gb are free on the 100gb filesystem
[11:50] <KostyaXu> zortec,  you can create a seperate partition for video files, (seperate from the ubuntu partition ) audio, etc..and mount it
[11:50] <zortec> is that for the whole filesystem or just /home?
[11:51] <piojun> yes i "dumpin" the .iso file to the cd... thats what happend.... how may i resolve this?
[11:52] <piojun> yes i "dumpin" the .iso file to the cd... thats what happend.... how may i resolve this?
[11:52] <speedmaster> piojun: yea in nero you need to select the iso tab in the burning rom program and open iso file then burn
[11:52] <zortec> oh, it looks as though I set up a 1.3gb /home mount point
[11:52] <bazhang> zortec, that is way too small
[11:52] <cetanu1> lol
[11:52] <cetanu1> oh dear
[11:52] <zortec> bazhang, yeah, that can't be right
[11:52] <piojun> there are a lot of versions nero has.... :(
[11:53] <speedmaster> piojun: they all function very similar
[11:54] <speedmaster> piojun: not on windows so im just guessing from the last iso i burned in windows
[11:54] <zortec> bazhang, maybe it is 100gb
[11:55] <piojun> so i need to do is "unpack" the iso file and burn those "unpacked" files?
[11:55] <bazhang> piojun, no
[11:55] <bazhang> piojun, are you using windows to burn?
[11:55] <piojun> yes i use windows to burn
[11:55] <piojun> nero mostly are in here
[11:55] <bazhang> isorecorder2 should do piojun
[11:56] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[11:56] <addiks> hi, currently i am using ubuntu-one to store my php files i work on. I edit the file in the UbuntuOne-Directory directly. Now ive got the idea of putting an svn repository into my UbuntuOne-folder. Would that be bepossible?
[11:56] <addiks> wow, what happened?!
[11:56] <frogzoo1> retardedsplit
[11:56] <piojun> wow
[11:56] <frogzoo1> !netsplit
[11:56] <piojun> by the way i dont know what isorecorder2 is
[11:57] <Quan-Time_> is there a program / addon which allows nautilius to "resume" copies ? ive had a 13gb file die twice (own fault) and it sucks having to do it all again..
[11:57] <Quan-Time_> help !
[11:57] <bazhang> piojun, its a free iso recorder for windows
[11:57] <zortec> piojun, are you using windows or linux to burn the disc?
[11:57] <Quan-Time_> addiks: freenode server is having trunk issues.. prolly somewhere along the line they are doing fixes..
[11:57] <zortec> piojun, if windows I used infrarecorder which worked great
[11:57] <piojun> i use windows to burn
[11:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> addiks, why not put a svn repo on your machine and write a script to do a svn checkout to your ubuntu-one folder?
[11:57] <bazhang> piojun, listen to zortec 's suggestion
[11:57] <zortec> I also burned at 40x which I don't recommend
[11:58] <piojun> it sounds like isorecorder and ifrarecorder is use to "unpack" iso files...
[11:58] <bazhang> piojun, no. they are not.
[11:58] <zortec> piojun, no they are used to burn an image format to a disc
[11:58] <addiks> because then i can commit only on this machine. if i had the repo on both machines, i can commit everywhere
[11:59] <piojun> so i should download isorecorder2?
[11:59] <zortec> piojun, did you try infrarecorder?
[11:59] <bazhang> piojun, that or infrarecorder
[11:59] <piojun> ok il truy that first
[11:59] <piojun> dang!
[11:59] <zortec> piojun, it's the first one given in ubuntu's howtoburn
[11:59] <bazhang> piojun, please download them and try.
[11:59] <Quan-Time_> infra is on ubuntu ? freakin asweoms
[11:59] <Quan-Time_> holy crap !
[11:59] <zortec> Quan-Time_, no it is not on ubuntu
[12:00] <Quan-Time_> boooo
[12:00] <zortec> Quan-Time_, you would have to use a different app
[12:00] <bazhang> Quan-Time_, no, on the factoid
[12:00] <frogzoo> booooooooooo
[12:00] <addiks> and this is the netmerge after netsplit? :)
[12:00] <khelvan> Hi, I've installed SQLite and the gui browser for it - how do I get it to show up in my Applications menu?
[12:01] <piojun> is infrarecorder a burning software?
[12:01] <indus> khelvan: it inst already? then right click on menu>edit menu and add a custom menu
[12:01] <eva__> hi
[12:01] <SpaceGhostC2C> !hi | eva__
[12:01] <bazhang> piojun, yes. download it and try .
[12:01] <zortec> so what is a good partition set up or does it vary per user? I think I used 100 /home 20 / and 60
[12:01] <Quan-Time_> piojun: infra is the best burning software on win based systems.. nero is bloat and gay.
[12:02] <khelvan> indus - I'm in the menu editor, but I don't know where to find the program in order to add it to the menu
[12:02] <indus> khelvan: add new menu item then
[12:02] <indus> khelvan: generally it wil lbe in other
[12:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> Quan-Time_, please don't use the term gay to describe something you don't lie.
[12:02] <SpaceGhostC2C> like*
[12:02] <lightbricko> When booting, how can I see what happens instead of seeing the boot logo?
[12:02] <piojun> nero is gay? i should agree with you!
[12:02] <indus> lightbricko: well press alt f1
[12:03] <zortec> lightbricko, can't you just press esc to see all the text?
[12:03] <lightbricko> indus and zortec: I tried esc (I think), I will try alt f1 now. Laterz.
[12:03] <zortec> piojun, I agree with SpaceGhostC2C that "gay" is not a very good term to describe something
[12:03] <indus> lightbricko: you can also remove quiet splash from grub menu
[12:04] <khelvan> indus - Yes, thank you, but what I mean is I am in the menu editor and have not seen the application listed anywhere, including Other, so I was adding a New Item, but I have to browse to the application, and I don't know where to find it. Unless you mean that there is an error if SQLite hasn't shown up...
[12:04] <eva__> i've just installed ubuntu with kernel 2.6.31 -16 and i'm running into trouble with my huawei e220 modem... :p
[12:04] <indus> khelvan: hmm i understand yes
[12:05] <eva__> downgrading to kernel 2.6.31-11 should solve the problem
[12:05] <zortec> the only mount points that are required is / and /swap right?
[12:05] <zortec> but one should also consider adding a mount point for home
[12:05] <indus> khelvan: iam saying, click on adda new item in menu item then type it in
[12:05] <indus> too many splits these days\
[12:05] <indus> irc servers suck now
[12:05] <eva__> however i can't find any kernel prior to 2.6.31-14 in synaptic
[12:06] <zortec> what is all that flooding?
[12:06] <indus> eva__: well you cant if there arent any
[12:06] <piojun> thank you all
[12:06] <indus> eva__: but probably ther is upto 11
[12:06] <zortec> that is -really- annoying
[12:06] <maco> eva__: -14 is the released one in karmic
[12:07] <maco> eva__: for -11, dig through launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux maybe?
[12:07] <zortec> can we not prevent that flooding?
[12:07] <nick> you can ignore JOIN/PART/QUIT messages
[12:07] <eva__> indus: aren't there any other repositories I could add ? I really don't want to learn how to build a custom kernel if I can avoid it ...
[12:08] <indus> eva__: i said some older kernels will be available if you search , 2.6.31- 12 or even 11
[12:08] <zortec> nick: how does one go about that?
[12:08] <indus> eva__: just type linux image in search
[12:09] <nick> zortec, which client are you using?
[12:09] <zortec> nick: xchat
[12:09] <Younder> these .net splits are getting annoying
[12:09] <eva__> indus: I did - the earliest is 2.6.31-14 (in my synaptic)
[12:09] <nick> zortec, right click on the channel nime you will see hide join/parts in settings
[12:09] <zortec> someone want to explain what net splits are...
[12:10] <charred> Using ubuntu 9.10, dual-booting with win7 and worked perfectly. I updated ubuntu kernel and plugged in an extra HD now grub will not boot windows 7, grub menu says it is /dev/sdc2 when it is /dev/sdc3, looking for a way to change it. update-grub and fdisk -l outputs are here: http://pastebin.com/m30233034
[12:10] <rob_p> !netsplit
[12:10] <cga> hi all, i have Kubuntu 9.10 32 bit , an ath9k wifi pcmcia WPC300Nv2 and i get segfault after few minuts i'm connected. is searched for bugs and i'd like to get it working w/out disconnections. is there a know solution? please thanks.
[12:10] <Younder> zortec, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:10] <zortec> relax and enjoy the show... how comforting
[12:11] <rob_p> zortec: yep!
[12:11] <frogzoo> why can't irc route around a downed server?
[12:11] <Sacho> frogzoo: that's not how it works
[12:11] <maco> frogzoo: because nothing can?
[12:11] <zortec> so back to my original question, is there a standard on what size to make your partitions?
[12:12] <zortec> like /home should be at least 20gb and / like 10gb or such
[12:12] <cga> damn slits
[12:12] <nikolam> oh what to do
[12:12] <maco> zortec: for normal users i go with 10 for / and the rest /home
[12:12] <zortec> I think the way most people do it is they take a number like 80 and split it up
[12:12] <Quan-Time_> screw this, im outta here
[12:12] <nikolam> should one disconnect and reconnect
[12:12] <nikolam> ?
[12:13] <frogzoo> zortec: it varies a lot, especially for servers, but if you give / 20 gigs, and the rest to /home, you won't go far wrong
[12:13] <zortec> 10 for /... is that enough if you add a lot of stuff from the repo?
[12:13] <mrfrank1> charred - try using UUID= instead of /dev/sdc2 in fstab
[12:13] <frogzoo> zortec: no it's not, and you have to figure /var in there as well
[12:13] <zortec> and has there been a concensus reached on /swap if it should be 1gb or 2gb... or none? :P
[12:13] <maco> zortec: for normal users, even with gnome and kde, yeah... for developers in need of debugging symbols, library documentation, and development headers...i went up to 15
[12:14] <mostafa> hi
[12:14] <mostafa> all
[12:14] <frogzoo> zortec: swap should be 2x memory, & ignore what everyone else says
[12:14] <maco> zortec: swap needs to be *at least* as big as ram if you want to hibernate. 2x RAM is good
[12:14] <charred> I'll try it mrfrank1, looking up fstab man page
[12:14] <zortec> frogzoo, maco: my RAM is 3gb though... should swap realy be 6gb?
[12:14] <cga> i repeat my question here, damn netsplit
[12:14] <cga> hi all, i have Kubuntu 9.10 32 bit , an ath9k wifi pcmcia WPC300Nv2 and i get segfault after few minuts i'm connected. is searched for bugs and i'd like to get it working w/out disconnections. is there a know solution? please thanks.
[12:14] <zortec> that seems like a lot of that RAM would be wasted
[12:15] <frogzoo> zortec: sure, why not?
[12:15] <zortec> in jaunty I set a 1gb swap
[12:15] <maco> zortec: if you want to hibernate, it must be at least 3gb
[12:15] <maco> zortec: you need it to be as big as RAM + however much swap is normally in use in order to hibernate
[12:15] <zortec> maco, never used hibernate in ubuntu... did use standby or S3 power mode which I like but not hibernate
[12:15] <mrfrank1> charred- it lets you move your hard drives around with changing grub. google it. i dont remember all the details, but it was a pain. you need to put UUID= in grub also.
[12:15] <maco> zortec: so if no swap is normally used, 3GB will do it, but if 1gb is, then 4, etc
[12:16] <PeturI> Any recommented program which can backup my data to sets of DVD's (as my /home is bigger than 4.4GB) .. ??
[12:16] <charred> mrfrank1: Thanks, I'll look it up
[12:17] <maco> PeturI: mondo/mindi
[12:17] <PeturI> maco thank you
[12:18] <zortec> and the best way to do the partitioning is manual partitioning rather than doing the guide?
[12:18] <eva__> cheers - just found a -9-rt image will try that
[12:18] <eva__> cu
[12:19] <Black_Phantom> Hello my touchpad just froze, this is happening for the 2nd. I installed Ubuntu 9.10 3 days ago
[12:19] <rob_p> zortec: There's no, "canned answer" to that question but for a typical desktop install, you're going to want at least 10GB for / (assuming you haven't made separate partitions for /var, /log, /usr, etc.).  That will give you room for the core OS and program files plus some room to grow.  But a vast majority of your large data will end up in users' home directories.  So /home should take up the bulk of your disk.  As mentioned, /swap was typically configured @ 2.5x
[12:19] <mrfrank1> charred- welcome. its worth it later. you can move your hd's around and stuffs still works.
[12:19] <daemon66> im trying to dual boot, already have installed windows and try to install ubuntu but then i get this error from gparted : /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.  However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.  Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT partition tables.  Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table.  Is thi
[12:19] <daemon66> s a GPT partition table?  annyone know solution ???
[12:20] <charred> mrfrank1: I guess you're right, sounds a little roundabout though
[12:21] <zortec> rob_p, thanks... let me get this straight before I get into the partitioning of my drive, there is an option to install side by side or erase and use the entire disk... or manual partiitioning... which is best? I want to install 9.10 over 9.04 or delete 9.04 and install 9.10
[12:22] <ManDay> At some places my fonts look like crap (no aa, no dith, whatsoever) - what do I need to install to make them look better?
[12:22] <mrfrank1> charred-the other thing you need to do then if figure out wich drive is /dev/? and change grub and maybe fstab. gparted will give you some info.
[12:22] <Ixguy> Hey guys. Anyone with experience from pftp and TLS?
[12:23] <mrfrank1> charred- i found it on one of the forams but cant remember which one. need to keep better notes.
[12:23] <charred> mrfrank1: I was playing around with fstab before actually getting a drive to automount. I'm not sure how it's relevant to grub unless I just wanted to swap /dev/sdc2 and /dev/sdc3 around
[12:24] <charred> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[12:24] <charred> That looks like it
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. fstab dosent swap drives around. :) it can mount them to different locations.. but thats not quite the same
[12:25] <charred> Dr_Willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349256 < my question about it
[12:25] <zortec> did my question get lost in the stack?
[12:25] <Sae>  deltaanime
[12:25] <Sae> erf
[12:25] <istrategy> Hi
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> charred:  installg a new drive wont move 'sdc2' to 'sdc3' it COULD move sdc to sdd however.
[12:25] <istrategy> I'm using UBUNTU 9.04
[12:26] <CruX_> is there something to extract  .iso .nrg .alcohol etc in console ??
[12:26] <istrategy> UBUNTU 9.10 is a bit unstable at this stage
[12:26] <vak> hi all
[12:26] <cetanu1> 9.04 FO LYFE!
[12:26] <vak> how to see the amount of memory shared and not shared by the child process?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> charred:  you might need to edit your  'device.map' file if the new drive got  added 'befor' the old one.  with how tye system sees it
[12:26] <maco> cetanu1: even after end-of-life in october next year? :P
[12:27] <cetanu1> im hardcore =D
[12:27] <RSMITH16384> would someone tell me if they get a login screen? ftp://98.119.102.121:16385
[12:27] <charred> Dr_Willis: It's edited to include all my drives now
[12:27] <charred> I removed it and update-grub regenerated it
[12:28] <cetanu1> RSMITH16384, it doesnt look like it's working for me
[12:28] <zortec> is my question going through at all?
[12:28] <RSMITH16384> ok thank you
[12:28] <charred> zortec: 'which is best' depends entirely on your purposes
[12:28] <rob_p> zortec: It's *almost always* better to save off your data and do a fresh install.  If you previously had a separate /home partition, you could keep that intact and do a fresh install.  Just make sure to make your existing /home partition as your new /home partition.  These days, I just tar/gzip my home directory and transfer it off to my network storage, do a fresh upgrade and then pull my tgz'd user home dir back over.  Anymore, there's little value for the avera
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> charred:  i find it easier to keep linux on its own hard drive.   and perhaps put a ntfs parttion after it if i need storage space. one drive can boot windoiws.. other just boots linux
[12:29] <ripthejacker> how do i play amr in amarok?
[12:30] <charred> Dr_Willis: You're probably right. This drive is significantly faster than others however, I prefer the OS's on the better drive and the others for storage.
[12:30] <zortec> rob_p, I'm going to do a fresh install.  I want to know the best option when it comes to how to partition the drive..  As I have an existing /home directory, there is nothing in there worth keeping and so I was going to format it.
[12:30] <mrfrank1> Dr_Willis- I changed to UUID= and have grub installed in each of my hard drives(5).My menu.list is on one hd and all kernes on the same hd. Now i can remove or add a hd and stuff and still function. All grubs point to the on hd with menu.lst on it. Make sense?
[12:30] <zortec> rob_p, but I suppose I could just keep it in intact...
[12:30] <ManDay> Some of my fonts look ass-ugly and pixelated - what can I do about it???
[12:30] <ManDay> (Especially in evince)
[12:30] <AdvoWork> anyone here use pidgin? for msn(hotmail) and had the problem about: our protocol is not supported by the server?
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> charred:  also sdc2 is set to be  bootable..  where did this 'windows is on sdc3' come from?
[12:31] <charred> sdc2 is 100MB
[12:31] <charred> I'll find you a link
[12:32] <rob_p> zortec: If you have nothing of value in it, there's no reason to keep it.  But it won't hurt either... unless you want to resize it, which is easier to do during install.
[12:33] <zortec> rob_p, if I'm dual booting windows xp and ubuntu 9.10, should I pick the first option "install side by side" instead of manually creating the partitions?
[12:33] <ManDay> When I rotate a document in evince some fonts cease to be antialiased, please help!
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> zortec:  side by side will try to resize the xp parttions  and install to the newly made partitions
[12:33] <rob_p> zortec: Not familiar with the current options for dual booting, sorry.
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> zortec:  it will try to do it automatically.
[12:34] <zortec> Dr_Willis, I will be safe if I set up the partitions manually the way I want including a /home mount point?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> charred:  you could change the bootable flag. to be sdc3
[12:34] <zortec> Dr_Willis, I don't want to lose dual booting if you understand
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> zortec:  i always set mine manually. i even tell it where to mount the ntfs partitions
[12:34] <RSMITH16384> ftp://98.119.102.121:16385 ?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> zortec:  you wont lose dual booting by setting th epartitions manually
[12:35] <charred> Dr_Willis: Well I was going to have 1 extended for linux with /home and /, then Win7, then another for storage (this drive is 1TB). Win7 making 2 partitions is kinda annoying, and I have no idea why it's set to be bootable. It does seem retarded but grub doesn't seem to be built for it
[12:35] <Lord-Readman> Hello, if you edit an idea slightly to fix a typo, does it require everyone to revote? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22854/
[12:35] <th3_b0b> Hi! I'm running a network of Ubuntu 9.10 Clients, Authentication via LDAP. Is there A way to configure which users are listed in gdm's user-list?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> charred:  change the bootable flag perhaps. I dont use win7 so no idea why it makes 2 partitions.
[12:36] <zortec> Dr_Willis, hmm is it necessary to tell it where to mount the ntfs partitions? I'm not sure II know what that is exactly
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> charred:  personally i would set up win7 on its own hd.. and linux on its own hd.
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> zortec:  i always tell it..  saves me having to sset it up later
[12:36] <RSMITH16384> can someone test my port forward? should get a login screen.. ftp://98.119.102.121:16385
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> zortec:  ie:   ntfs1 goes to /media/widowsboot
[12:36] <zortec> Dr_Willis, is that just a simple thing to tell it?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> zortec:  same as you set any other mount points in the installer.
[12:37] <zortec> Dr_Willis, ah so you are just telling it where the mount point is
[12:37] <zortec> Dr_Willis, I thought that was done automatically
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> zortec:   Not exactly. it can Automount them as a feature of gnome.. but thats not the same as having an entry in fstab
[12:37] <charred> RSMITH16384: not working for me
[12:38] <RSMITH16384> ok thankyou
[12:38] <mrfrank1> RSMITH16384:   nothing thee
[12:38] <om26er1> i removed netbook-launcher and sudo apt-get autoremove and rebooted but still cannot click on the desktop..
[12:38] <zortec> this might be a stupid question (I have to admit) but is there any way to get help while in the partitoning manager during the 9.10 install?
[12:39] <AdvoWork> anyone here use pidgin? for msn(hotmail) and had the problem about: our protocol is not supported by the server?
[12:39] <DJones> RSMITH16384: You can check whether a port is open by using www.canyouseeme.org, it'll detect the ip you're checking from, all you need to do is enter the port you want to check, it might save you needing to ask & wait for somebody to test it for you
[12:39] <egertonm20> AdvoWork - yes it's been a problem this morning
[12:40] <RSMITH16384> ive been using sheilds up
[12:40] <RSMITH16384> was worried i couldnt trust result
[12:40] <RSMITH16384> looks like it was right
[12:40] <RSMITH16384> i have a very strange problem
[12:41] <charred> Dr_Willis: Yeah, never thought I'd see ubuntu break windows without an easy fix, I'll probably just reinstall win7 without that extra partition so it doesn't screw up again
[12:41] <DJones> AdvoWork: What version of Ubuntu are you using, there's a bug filed for Pidgin in Hardy
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> charred:  im not sure it broke windows.. or if windows dis somthing stupid that ubuntu then tried to fix.
[12:41] <Ddorda> hey. how do i change the owner of a directory
[12:41] <Ddorda> ?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> charred:  ive no idea what that 100mb partition is - or even why its set to be bootable.
[12:41] <zortec> I take it the answer is no.  Well off to install 9.10 and hopefully without any problems.
[12:42] <egertonm20> I using Hardy and Pidgin stopped working after this morning's software update
[12:42] <charred> Info about 100mb partition, sortof, http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/08/20/hack-to-remove-100-mb-system-reserved-partition-when-installing-windows-7/
[12:42] <ManDay_> When I rotate a document in evince some fonts cease to be antialiased, please help!
[12:42] <RSMITH16384> zor
[12:42] <RSMITH16384> what kind of help?
[12:43] <charred> Might see if I can remove it in gparted and see what happens
[12:43] <DJones> egertonm20: Its a known bug thats been reported to teh developers
[12:43] <egertonm20> Djones - thanks for the confirmation
[12:43] <mandar> is it possible to install yahoo messenger on ubuntu?
[12:43] <Lord-Readman> Hello, if you edit an idea slightly to fix a typo, does it require everyone to revote? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22854/
[12:43] <om26er1> i cannot right click on the desktop..
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> charred:  from what i read at that URL you gave its a special boot partition. for recovery mode.
[12:44] <om26er1> mandar: no
[12:44] <om26er1> mandar: although you can try wine
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> charred:  ie: you boot it and then ITS supposed to show how switch off to the actual insstall.. adding a new hard drive may of confused that feature of windows
[12:44] <th482> #physics
[12:44] <Colpik_> Quelqu'un pourrai mapporter une aide en francais par mp ?
[12:44] <om26er1> !fr | Colpik_
[12:44] <charred> Hmm, yeah I think you're right
[12:44] <RSMITH16384> whats up th482
[12:44] <Colpik_> thanks
[12:45] <charred> Dr_Willis: Well that's retarded
[12:45] <mandar> Is there any way to do voice chat on ubuntu? any software
[12:45] <charred> hehe
[12:45]  * om26er1 says make language a bitmore friendly
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> charred:  lots of things MS does are... well.. odd..
[12:45] <OlliW> mandar: Skype will work :)
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> charred:  and it appears removeing that partition will break windows from booting.. untill you repair it.
[12:46] <mandar> ohh thank you olliw
[12:46] <charred> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I read that
[12:46] <charred> I think I'll remove them both and do a clean install of windows without the extra partition
[12:46] <charred> Just when I got it set up how I like
[12:46] <charred> Bah
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> charred:  i would say keep windows on its own hd.. and linux on its own. :) then i use the bios menus to boot windows directly if grub ever goofs it up.
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> charred:  how much faster is the new hd/fast hd?
[12:48] <Rajasun> mandar: tes you can. Look here http://www.technixupdate.com/download-yahoo-messenger-for-ubuntu-linux-with-webcam-voice-chat-photo-sharing-support/ But for what it is worth, pidgin and kopete can do Yahoo also
[12:48] <Rajasun> yes*
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[12:49] <ManDay> When I rotate a document in evince fonts stop being antialiased, please help!
[12:50] <cga> anyone knows if the 2.6.31-* ath9k bug has been solved in 2.6.32 ? if so how can install 2.6.32 on karmic?
[12:50] <charred> Dr_Willis: wd caviar black vs a 5200-someting and a 4 year old samsung
[12:50] <charred> I'll just reinstall windows without the extra partition and it'll be done
[12:50] <freaky[t]> how do i enable java for my webbrowsers?
[12:50] <freaky[t]> !java
[12:50] <charred> Thanks for the help Dr_Willis
[12:50] <AdvoWork> egertonm20, ahh I see, removed it, upgrade/updated, reinstalled, same problem doh
[12:50] <lupin_sansei> Hello, all of a sudden my 9.10 (upgraded from 9.04) has started getting stuck at the GUI when it boots with just a wait mouse cursor (the spinning thing). I've tried a touch /forcefsck when rebooting but it doesn't seem to fix it I can log into a terminal on CTRL-ALT-F1 etc and the system seems to be working, but I can't properly get the desktop running
[12:50] <brutus> Hi, my update manager says I need 690M of free space to download updates, and need to make some space....but baobab shows that I have 2GB available. Is this a bug?
[12:51] <AdvoWork> DJones, just seen that, been fine til today, doh
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[12:52] <ManDay> When I rotate a document in evince fonts stop being antialiased, please help!
[12:52] <DJones> AdvoWork: Its probably either an update since yesterday, or it could be that MS have changed something at the server end, its happened before, no doubt there will be a fix released, or MS will correct whatever they changed
[12:52] <om26er1> brutus: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:53] <indus> ManDay: maybe file a bug
[12:54] <indus> ManDay: looks like a nice candidate, does tis happen for all docs?
[12:54] <brutus> om26er1, still says I need '208M' more space to download...
[12:54] <ManDay> i wonder how many years it will take to have it fixed...
[12:54] <ManDay> indus, havent checked for all
[12:54]  * Dr_Willis wonders how you would antialias rotated fonts...
[12:54] <ManDay> it only happens with a few fonts
[12:54] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, rotated by 90 deg
[12:54] <indus> Dr_Willis: i wonder they cant be
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  right. but its taking the image then roateeing it? or perhape envince dont work that way...
[12:55] <indus> Dr_Willis: why i mean
[12:55] <om26er1> brutus: you made /roo partition very small. the 2gb space u told is on /home
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> Im thinking of the CBR stuff (comic books) they are all image files to begin with.. so its not the same I guess
[12:55] <connection> Hallo zusammen Benutze zum erstenmal diese plattform gruss ingo
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> fireing up envince
[12:55] <indus> Dr_Willis: evince is not smart enough to say that a doc is inverted to a human, it only rotates it so no reason why it should not
[12:56] <lightbricko> I've installed Karmic Koala on another HDD than I had Gutsy Gibbon. Now I believe my old HDD is still the boot HDD with grub. How do I change this?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> checking out.. http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html  in envince
[12:56] <brutus> om26er1, I don't think so...the stats given by baobab are- "Mount Point - /, FS type- ext4, Total Size- 48GB, Available- 2.9GB"....it's referrring to / and not /home...
[12:57] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, indus I might just lack a certain package
[12:57] <ManDay> is there any must-have font package?
[12:57] <ManDay> or a must-have font-program / tool
[12:58] <ManDay> (or setting)
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  i always install ubuntu-restricted extras, and i recall some pdf font packages at medibintu
[12:58] <UNewb> lightbricko you want to switch which HDD is used?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  plus i get the msttcore fonts package
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> !font
[12:58] <ManDay> msttcore
[12:58] <m3onh0x84_> What's the apps can configure all apps database like debconf, dbconfig ?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  they seem antialiased here for me. at least that pocketguide.pdf is..
[12:58] <lightbricko> UNewb: Yes, I want to be able to physically remove my old hdd.
[12:58] <m3onh0x84_> It can config meta package , framework package ?
[12:58] <indus> ya seem fine
[12:59] <Lord-Readman> If you edit an idea slightly to fix a typo, does it require everyone to revote? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22854/
[12:59] <a2f> does anyone know if there is a package like kde-minimal for gnome in the ubuntu repositories?
[12:59] <ManDay> got msttcorefonts installed
[12:59] <ManDay> hm
[12:59] <ManDay> is there any settings dialog where I can set font-related things such as antitaliasing
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  appearance -> fonts tab.
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Lots of settings in there.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> !info kubuntu-netbook  | a2f
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> but pdf documents may get rendered a little diffrently then those settings  are set to.
[13:01] <a2f> ActionParsnip: that didn't do anything
[13:02] <ManDay> Excellent, thanks Willis
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> a2f: kubuntu-netbook  is the package name
[13:02] <UNewb> lightbricko if you want to physically remove your old hdd then you should transfer the files to a new HDD that you don't want to lose, and then delete the drive in question, open up the pc and remove it
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> !info kubuntu-netbook
[13:02] <a2f> ActionParsnip: well i'm not interested in kubuntu
[13:02] <m3onh0x84_> @ping
[13:02] <a2f> ActionParsnip: i'm looking for the gnome equivalent of kde-minimal
[13:03] <lantjie> hey everyone
[13:03] <lightbricko> UNewb, but is the new HDD automatically bootable? When using the "Disk utility" tool, it sais that only the old HDD is bootable.
[13:03] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, ActionParsnip whatever I check there it doesnt affect how evince displays the fonts!
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> a2f: if you want a minimal kde desktop then install kde-core
[13:03] <ManDay> Only the GUI of evnice it affects
[13:03] <a2f> ActionParsnip: buddy, i'm looking for the gnome equivalent, not kde :)
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  you have to close/reopen the apps i think befor those settings take effect.. and those settings MIGHT be only affecting the gnome/program menus/txt not the pdf rendered text.
[13:04] <UNewb> lightbricko you have to have an OS installed on the HDD you're booting, or no it won't be
[13:04] <a2f> ActionParsnip: btw there is a package called kde-minimal that sets up kde with no added fluff, kde-core doesn't do anything
[13:04] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, I think the latter is the case
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> a2f: ok cool, let me see what i can dig up
[13:04] <ManDay> Ill try tho
[13:04] <lantjie> hey guys has anyone setup a community server before
[13:04] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, any idea how to affect how programs render text? That should be application specific, eh?!
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  i just turned OFF all anti aliasing. i got ugly fonts now.. and the pdf dpociument text in evince hasent changed at all
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> a2f: install gnome-core gdm   for a minimal kde install kde-core kdm
[13:05] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, I was afraid so. Thanks
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> a2f: from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=648896
[13:05] <lightbricko> UNewb: I have two installations of Ubuntu, one on each HDD ("Old" and "New"). But only the "old" one contains Grub I think. Or does both get Grub?
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> the pdf text itself looks nice and antialiased.. the menus and title bar,. :) amazing how ugly it is now
[13:05] <lantjie> Dr_Willis: what is it you need help with
[13:06] <ManDay> Maybe evince recommented a package I neglected to install
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> lantjie:  its ManDay  :) hes having issues with rotated text in evince.
[13:06] <ManDay> I'll check. Can anyone tell me how to find out what packages a package recomments/suggests?
[13:06] <Pici> ManDay: apt-cache show packagename
[13:07] <lantjie> Dr_Willis: oke
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> !info evince-gtk
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> !find evince
[13:07] <lantjie> ManDay: what are you using is it gnome are kde
[13:07] <lantjie> ?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> !clone
[13:08] <ManDay> gnome
[13:08] <a2f> ActionParsnip: i'll try, thanks
[13:08] <UNewb> lightbricko sorry for the delayed response, I'm new to Linux so I wouldn't know about grub and stuff lol but I know that you need a full operating system on the HDD you're trying to boot in order for it to work alone
[13:08] <lightbricko> UNewb ok thx
[13:08] <hikenboot> hello i have used the alternate cd to install with raid 1 and lvm the system is on 3 separate lvm partitions /, /home, and /video. I had a series of power brownouts and lost my install...was forced to reinstall I purposely and carefully told it not to over write /home or /video it ended up screwing up the video partition now it shows no data
[13:09] <ManDay> Still looks ugly like ....
[13:09] <ManDay> Only suggestion I didnt have was something called poppler
[13:09] <hikenboot> anyone know of an recovery software that works with raid and lvm --testdisk finds nothing
[13:09] <ManDay> installing it didnt help
[13:09] <lantjie> ManDay: oke, yust do right click on your desktop-->change background-->and see the font section there is everything there
[13:09] <ManDay> lantjie, what you mean, "everything there"
[13:09] <ManDay> there is everything that i used to have there
[13:10] <lantjie> ManDay: fonts
[13:10] <lantjie> text
[13:10] <ManDay> got all the fonts i could possibly need
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> vi ManDay  heres my package listing if ya want to check what i got going on -> http://pastebin.com/f6c055f5f
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  got a url to the pdf you are testing/seeing the issue in?
[13:11] <ManDay> ty Willis
[13:11] <ManDay> um, i could upload it
[13:11] <ManDay> is there any place i could upload it (1meg) without registering?
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> that ubuntuguide here looks nice when rotated.. i wonder if it depends on what fonts the pdf is using
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  http://drop.io  perhaps?
[13:11] <ManDay> you could give me a link to your guide tho
[13:11] <ManDay> ill try
[13:11] <Rajasun> ManDay: poppler is installed. it must be. type apt-cache depends evince to fund out why
[13:12] <innervision> did anyone get *any* MTP player to work properly on Karmic Koala?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Handy but slightly out of date guide -->  Free. ---> .. http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
[13:12] <indus> hi all
[13:13] <indus> sorry but i have no questions :)
[13:13] <Rrraptor> Hey everyone.
[13:13] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, my doc, I'll PM you, ok?
[13:13] <indus> except, i cant seem to run service something restart
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> ok
[13:13] <innervision> indus: what Ubuntu version are you using?
[13:13] <indus> latest
[13:13] <lantjie> hey guys i had an argue with my friends about a community server do you guys now a good on we can use ?
[13:13] <Rrraptor> 9.10?
[13:13] <indus> thats why i have to use service
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> indus:  using sudo service whatever restart     command ?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> innervision: gnomad
[13:14] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, got it?
[13:14] <indus> Dr_Willis: yeah
[13:14] <Rajasun> Hya indus. You may not hv any questions but I do hv one. ;)
[13:14] <Rrraptor> lantijie: this is a good server for most people.
[13:14] <indus> Dr_Willis: always gives me error
[13:14] <Rajasun> Yo! Guys, I have 2 questions. Should be a piece of cake. I used to know this but somehow cannot now recall. My questions are here http://pastebin.com/f5899cf9a
[13:14] <indus> Rajasun:whether its gdm or networking or whatever
[13:14] <innervision> ActionParsnip: gnomad sucks :(
[13:14] <innervision> indus: did you try "sudo /etc/init.d/something restart"
[13:15] <innervision> ?
[13:15] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, did you get my link?
[13:15] <Rajasun> undus: nope checkout the link ;)
[13:15] <indus> innervision: it says use service instead
[13:15] <Rajasun> indus*
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> innervision: well it is a microsoft protocol
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  yep. it seems to be somthing with the pdf file. I get non-aafonts here when rotated also
[13:15] <nperry> !repeat | Rajasun
[13:15] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, agreed, the ubuntu guide looks fine
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> innervision: rhythmbox
[13:15] <indus> Rajasun: iam too lazy to click on links
[13:15] <ManDay> Well then, I guess I can live with it
[13:16] <ManDay> Thanks mate
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> innervision: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/12709/
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  also oddly.. if i 'select' text in the  math bok :) it changes to a monospaced font as i select it..
[13:16] <indus> Rajasun: and i like easy questions , i dont know answer to thse
[13:16] <innervision> ActionParsnip: both Rhythmbox and Banshee suffer from what I call the "GVFS + MTP Support Catch 22"
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> innervision: amarok
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  it dosent do that in the 'guide' pdf.
[13:16] <Rajasun> mppery: the last time I asked that question was more than an hour ago and several netsplits before may I add
[13:16] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, I'll ask the author what he composed that with ...
[13:16] <P37r> hi, anyone solved a problem with karmic and slow compiz effects with ati card, just like maximizing and unminimizing? thanks for any help how to fix this issue
[13:17] <Rajasun> indus: ok. np
[13:17] <Rrraptor> P37r: Want to pm me?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  MiKTeX pdfTeX-1.40.4    it says :)
[13:17] <Rrraptor> maybe I can help.
[13:17] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, weird, that's quite average, isnt it
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> P37r: make the speed faster for the anim, or just turn off those anims
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> in the producer info in properties.. it also has some mor einfo in the properties menu items
[13:17] <indus> Rajasun: but in synaptic maybe you can filter the packages and see the number
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  i never actally make pdfs
[13:17] <DaFFes> Hello guys, I've installed karmic on a pendrive making it persistent, the first time it worked almost fine (just had to restart login window). So I installed everythin i wanted and restarted systems. Then when I choose my pendrive to boot in the bios it redirects to normal GRUB of hd0. Does anyone know how to fix it?
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  in the 'fonts' info in the properties.. Several are called 'No Name'  and are type3 embedded.. I think hes notusing the proper fonts to make the pdf
[13:18] <treats> i have a hd in a remote computer with a hd that isn't mounted.. how can I mount this drive?
[13:18] <P37r> ActionParsnip: i want to use it just like this, isnt any better driver or patch for it?
[13:18] <Rajasun> indus: nah I want to know how to show them on the commandline...machine without X
[13:18] <indus> ActionParsnip: it says mtp is implemented
[13:18] <m3onh0x84_> hi , how to use ubuntu software center ?
[13:18] <indus> Rajasun: aah sorry no idea
[13:18] <Rajasun> indus: np
[13:19] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, wouldn't explain why the font just stops being antialiased once rotated, would it?
[13:19] <indus> m3onh0x84_: well just open and click on category and click to right to install
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> m3onh0x84_:  start it up.. and start clocking?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> P37r: ati is still a bit lacking in support in some areas
[13:19] <ManDay> Ok not that much of a matter
[13:19] <indus> ActionParsnip: well i got ATI 4850 works great
[13:19] <indus> just a week ago
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  the font may be missing some info.   - its amazing how complex making 'fonts' can be,
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> indus: its not something I use. I use devices which display as partitions rather than some garbage coind by microsoft
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  use  the xrandr tools to rotate the monitor. :)
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> indus: note: some areas ;)
[13:20] <albech> here is a screen shot from the client.. easier to show what the problem is with pxelinux.0 rather than explain it.. The output keep cycling on just that one line in the buttom.... http://imagebin.ca/view/k1lz9RNI.html
[13:20] <aethelrick> Hi all. I have a Dell Vostro 1700 notebook with a Intel 3945ABG GoLAN wireless networking card in it. Since upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 (64 bit) I have to toggle my wireless LAN switch after boot to connect to the network.
[13:20] <innervision> ActionParsnip: well, the irony of it all is that MTP worked perfectly well on Jaunty
[13:20] <ManDay> What is far more annoying is that I can't use my mouse because its so freaking fast/sensitive. If anyone gets bored please look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349389
[13:20] <mgv1> i think that the ubuntu logo needs to be changed to something more cool
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> innervision: use jaunty then, its still got 10 months support in it.
[13:20] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, lol, I could
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> innervision: and thats not ironic
[13:20] <piojunbabia> !5.10
[13:21] <aethelrick> The "toggle" is to move the switch from it's current setting to it's opposite setting. It does not matter what setting it is on before I move it, just that I must move it.
[13:21] <jennie> my ubuntu 9.04  is running slow any solutions While windows is running faster ? my pc config RAM 2.5GB DDR2 , AMD processor 1.9 GHZ , Nvidia graphics card installed
[13:21] <innervision> ActionParsnip: nope, you are right, it's sad.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> innervision: log a bug as well
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> innervision: it'd be ironic if 9.04 was code named mtp :D
[13:21] <innervision> ActionParsnip: I've been trying to (describing the whole problem) but launchpad has been failing all day long
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  i got one of those mice wht a +/- buttons to tweak the res on the fly :)
[13:21] <phlexo> Rajasun: use this...  dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | wc -l
[13:22] <ManDay> Dr_Willis, good for you.     ... :p
[13:22] <ManDay> I don't :-/
[13:22] <m3onh0x84_> thankss all
[13:22] <lantjie> jennie: i had the same problem. look if there is memtest86+ installed
[13:22] <phlexo> remove wc - l if you want packages names as well
[13:22] <indus> jennie: yeah ubuntu does that sometimes, how can you say its slow
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  i notice the guide 'pdf' file has all Truetype fonts. no 'type3' s
[13:22] <ManDay> And I just can't stop wondering why no one can tell me where to set the mouse sensitivy manually (so I can turn it down even further) - is that managed by HAL which, apparently, no one has any clue of whatsoever??
[13:22] <DaFFes> Hello guys, I've installed karmic on a pendrive making it persistent, the first time it worked almost fine (just had to restart login window). So I installed everything i wanted and restarted systems. Then when I choose my pendrive to boot in the bios it redirects to normal GRUB of hd0. Does anyone know how to fix it? I think that maybe it's just restore the GRUB of pendrive, how do i do that?
[13:23] <lantjie> jennie: if not do sudo apt-get install memtest86+
[13:23] <ManDay> That's problaby the reason then, Dr_Willis
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> ManDay:  i thouhg Hal was getting removed.. :)
[13:23] <Rajasun> phlexo: ah thx but what about my 2nd question?
[13:23] <jennie> lantjie , I can see memtest86 at GRUb , u talking about that  memtest
[13:23] <indus> Dr_Willis: it is deprecated yes
[13:23] <indus> !hal
[13:23] <ManDay> I thought xorg.conf was getting removed in favor of HAL!
[13:23] <lantjie> oke
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> Hal cant open the Pod bay doors any more.
[13:23] <lantjie> jennie: then it ubuntu itself
[13:23] <jennie> indus exploring in ubuntu is slower that winxp
[13:23] <phlexo> that one i have no idea. never scanned the whole repo before
[13:23] <phlexo> sorry
[13:23] <jennie> *than
[13:23] <ManDay> thats HAL20000, dont mix them up :p
[13:24] <indus> jennie: yeah hmm do you have compiz enabled?
[13:24] <piojunbabia> !eol
[13:24] <jrib> hal20000?  jrib is scared
[13:24] <ManDay> oh
[13:24] <jennie> compiz  ???? I am new to this
[13:24] <indus> whats hal
[13:24] <piojunbabia> !upgrade
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> GlaDos Marries Hal2000   = skynet.
[13:24] <piojunbabia> !burn
[13:24] <indus> jennie: ok go to main menu>preferences>appearance> visual effects
[13:24]  * Dr_Willis goes back to being on topic
[13:25] <jennie> ok indus
[13:25] <lantjie> jennie: if you start your machien do you see fails
[13:25]  * indus didnt see Dr_Willis go back to topic
[13:25] <piojunbabia> !burn | 5.10
[13:25] <jennie> no lantjie
[13:26] <indus> jennie: disable visual effects , have you>
[13:26] <Peter2222> is there any way to restore "file created" date in copied folder by ftp? I have access to source ftp but it is only one way to copy it again?
[13:26] <lantjie> jennie: oke then  everything is fine. do sudo lshw and look if it sees all your memory
[13:26] <Peter2222> maybe can I scan files to get data only ?
[13:27] <lightbricko> Maybe someone else can help me? I had installed Ubunty 9.04 and then installed Ubuntu 9.10 on a new HDD, but now I can't physically remove the old HDD because it is the old one that is the bootable one. How do I fix this?
[13:27] <Peter2222> and put this data to destination :)
[13:27] <indus> lightbricko: aah just reinstall grub its easy
[13:27] <jennie> yes lantjie
[13:27] <indus> lightbricko: use a live cd, open  a terminal and type sudo grub-install /dev/(second disk)
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> lightbricko: physically removing hardwrae is offtopic here, try #hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:28] <lantjie> jennie: it sees your memory?
[13:28] <tipme> anyone knows why adobe flash player not working in Ubuntu 9.1?
[13:28]  * indus tires soon :|
[13:28] <jrib> tipme: 9.10, not 9.1 and it does work...
[13:28] <lightbricko> indus: Thanks!
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> lightbricko: you can format the old one and use it as user space using gparted if its healthy
[13:28] <maple1> i was writing paper on the pc and it was like Bleep Bleep Bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep and then like half of my paper was gone
[13:29] <indus> ActionParsnip: his question is about booting
[13:29] <jennie> yes lantjie
[13:29] <maple1> it devoured my paper
[13:29] <maple1> it was really good paper
[13:29] <tipme> jrib: youtube mentions I need flash player, which I have installed on ubuntu 9.10
[13:29] <lantjie> jennie: oke then nothing is wrong it is yust ubuntu
[13:29] <jrib> tipme: how did you install it?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> tipme: can you give a pastebin of the output of: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnsh; dpkg -l | grep swf
[13:29] <indus> jennie: i ask again, is visual effectws on?
[13:29]  * jrib hands ActionParsnip an 'a'
[13:29] <OlliW> maple1: that's why you keep backups ;)
[13:29] <lightbricko> ActionParsnip: Thanks you too, but indus fixed it.
[13:30] <indus> lightbricko: now is nt that cool
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> d'oh
[13:30] <indus> lightbricko: so it boots now?
[13:30] <indus> iam a fixer :D
[13:30] <lightbricko> indus: Haven't done it yet ;)
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> tipme: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gansh; dpkg -l | grep swf
[13:30] <lightbricko> indus:  I got no live cd so I'm googling for how to reinstall grub in another way.
[13:30] <lantjie> jennie: yes indus is wright it can be your visual affects
[13:30] <indus> lightbricko: lol ok , it generally works, but grub might mess up , but a live cd will always help
[13:30] <ManDay> I can't use my mouse because its so freaking fast/sensitive. If anyone gets bored please look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349389 - I need to know where to set my sensitivy manually (plain text? userspace tool?)
[13:31] <tipme> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/m46f82c25
[13:31] <beatbreaker> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=86408
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> tipme: can you run my second command, i missed an 'a' from gnash
[13:31] <indus> new ati catalyst is out but i wonder whether it has HD decode for flash and h264 for linux too
[13:32]  * om26er don't think so
[13:32] <lantjie> ManDay: go to system-->preferences-->mouse . there you have it
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> indus: if your ubuntu is 32bit theres the 10.1 flash which supports hardware rendering
[13:33] <om26er> ActionParsnip: i read somewhere that hardware rendering was just for windows!
[13:33] <tipme> ActionParsnip, I used synaptic to install the flash player.  I ran the second command that you mentioned.  Same output.
[13:33] <ManDay> lantjie, it's already turned down to a minimum
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> om26er: as far as I know its in both in 10.1
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> tipme: ok thats cool, thanks
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> tipme: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:35] <Church> on 64bit ubuntu i have to restart browser from time to time to restore flash functionality. i wonder if there will be native 64bit flash plugin any sooner then 5 years :/
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Church: one is out
[13:35] <indus> ActionParsnip: ill use nswrapper
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Church: and has been for a while
[13:36] <indus> ActionParsnip: flash only supports it wit hthe latest catalyst 9.11 driver
[13:36] <Church> indus: what good point is in using nswrapper?
[13:36] <indus> Church: there is a plugin
[13:36] <indus> Church: you dont know? ActionParsnip will give you a link in less than a minute :)
[13:37] <lantjie> ManDay: if you want to know how to do everything manualy read bash scripting guide
[13:37] <indus> Warning, flash player 10 sucks big time
[13:37] <indus> on firefox i mean
[13:37] <lantjie> i have yust heard from a rhce
[13:37] <Church> in all my linux experience of using various browsers most memory leaks and browser crashes almost always could be attributed to flash plugin :/
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Church: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[13:37] <om26er> http://lifehacker.com/5406453/adobe-flash-101-beta-brings-hardware-acceleration-to-web-videos
[13:38] <indus> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[13:38] <tipme> ActionParsnip, I run your command and it said "flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version." and went to youtube.  Flash player doesn't open instead youtube is telling me to install the player.
[13:38] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Church: that link will give a compressed flash plugin. Uninstall ALL flash plugins and copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[13:38] <indus> Church: thats the 64 bit flash plugin , you need to uninstall all existing plugins then move this flashplugin into ./mozilla/plugins
[13:38] <indus> sorry
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> tipme: its not as you just removed it with the other commands
[13:39] <ManDay> lantjie, ???
[13:39] <indus> Church: ~/.mozilla/plugins
[13:39] <indus> there is just 1 file in it i guess libflashplayer.so
[13:39] <zortec> ok finished installing 9.10
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> tipme: basically yuo want to remove ALL flash plugins then install flashplugin-nonfree    if your Ubuuntu is 64bit you can download the alpa plugin from my above link and put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[13:40] <zortec> the installer was a lot better than the one in 9.04, but some issues I have with it... I put in 23000 expecting 23GB and got like 21.9GB
[13:40] <indus> i loved flash 8 and 9
[13:40] <indus> how come 10 is so pathetic?
[13:40] <Church> ActionParsnip: do you know if there is standart ubuntu/debian way of instlling this native plugin system-wide? i'd prefer that instead of installing for each user or copying file manually in some system wide browser plugin dir
[13:41] <indus> no wonder youtube still works with 8
[13:41] <zortec> also your screen goes black... and I know that is a screensaver but a new user to ubuntu might think their monitor just went out
[13:41] <Church> zortec: imho simplier is to switch to VT and partition manually in fdisk then :)
[13:41] <alankila> Church: that could be /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Church: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins   most likely
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Church: chromium is: /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/
[13:41] <zortec> Church, fdisk is more accurate than ubuntu's parttion manager?
[13:42] <tipme> I tried to install flash player downloaded from adobe using db package manager.  but it failed.  So I couldn't open Synaptic.  Synaptic complained I have to remove it manually.  Which I did.  I removed the folder using rm command.
[13:42] <zortec> I know that 1000 or technically 1024MB = 1GB
[13:42] <Church> alankila/ActionParsnip: i prefer to not copy manually, just as i prefer not to just ./configure;make;make install. makes unmaintainable mess by time flow.
[13:42] <zortec> how does 23000MB = 21.9GB... it just doesn't add up
[13:42] <Church> i wonder if there is some repository of this plugin as normal deb pkg
[13:42] <alankila> Church: well, it's just a single file. There's no issue if you remember to clean up when you move back to system versions.
[13:43] <tipme> after removing, I reinstalled with Synaptic.  But browser is not picking up the plugin.
[13:43] <om26er> zortec: 1gb = 1024mb
[13:43] <indus> Church: there isnt i believe
[13:43] <zortec> I always thought it was 1000mb
[13:43] <zortec> does ubuntu go by 1024 exactly?
[13:43] <Church> indus: because of proprietary issues?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins/ will show nothing .../usr/lib/chromium-browser/ will show all of the data
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Church: flash is proprietary and closed so you wont get that with flash
[13:43] <zortec> and even still... why is 2GB missing when I do 23000MB
[13:43] <indus> Church: because its an alpha
[13:44] <alankila> however, I agree it would be nice to be able to build mock packages which use the package manager to distribute files into system.
[13:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: ah no, i can make a deb from it
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: yes its empty, you put the .so file there to get flash / jave / watever
[13:44] <Church> AP: but if proprietaryness issues were solved for nsswrapper && 32bit plugin, why not for native?
[13:44] <alankila> something like build-fake-deb <deb name> <list of paths>. There could even be such a thing.
[13:44] <indus> Church: canonical dont have this flash in a repo due to its alpha status
[13:44] <Church> oh, i see
[13:44] <zortec> I also have another request for the ubuntu installer...explain what the difference in a logical or primary partition is since I did / as primary and the rest as logical
[13:44] <zortec> and put them all at the beginning even though they can go at the end I guess
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> indus: i have a script to install it rather than a deb, there are PPAs with the flash already packaged
[13:45] <indus> in fact , launchpad automatically builds ppa
[13:45] <indus> ActionParsnip: ther are? with the 64 bit flash?
[13:45] <Church> alankila: you mean something like checkinstall for tgz/rpm distros?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> hmm ActionParsnip , my flash works perfectly fine with no 64 bit or otherwise plugins in that folder...what gives?
[13:45] <indus> anyways its probably off topic now
[13:45] <alankila> Church: I am not familiar with checkinstall.
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> indus: yes, its just that file in a conventient system, kinda pointless but whatever floats your boat
[13:46] <indus> ok
[13:46] <zortec> it also took a while to import my documents and settings... thought ubuntu froze at that point
[13:46] <indus> floats a boat hmm interesting
[13:46] <Church> alankila: simple way of creating custom packages i used once on slack. mostly i just did checkinstall make install instead of make install stage to create package
[13:46] <zortec> but on the positive side of things, grub2 loads really fast and my boot up time is about 10 secs which is awesome
[13:47] <Church> alankila: dunno, maybe supported creation of deb pkgs aswell. back then i didn't use any deb distribution
[13:47] <Rajasun> zortec: your may have better luck with your suggestions in #ubuntu-installer I think
[13:48] <zortec> Rajasun, oh is that another channel?
[13:48] <ve-net16> gfjg
[13:48] <ve-net16> ggh
[13:49] <Church> btw, has anybody here tried out chromium aswell? how stable/usable it's on linux now?
[13:49] <Rajasun> zortec: yes and there are many other channels on this same network for diff things related to Ubuntu including desktop, artwork, kernel, for the developers, one for aspiring packagers, locos, etc
[13:49] <om26er> Church: using it for 3months
[13:49] <Galaxor> I just cloned the kernel git repo for karmic.  I /quit
[13:49] <Galaxor> Whoops.
[13:50] <Church> IIRC now xmarks (former foxmarks) now support chromium aswell, so i wonder if chromium is stable enough for generic heavy browsing to make switch
[13:50] <zortec> Rajasun, doesn't seem to be anyone alive in that channel
[13:50] <indus> !chromium
[13:50] <om26er> Church: chromium daily is daily build so it gets some bugs but when using google chrome its quite stable
[13:50] <indus> is this google chrome?
[13:50] <zortec> is there a shortcut in xchat to switch between channels so you don't have to use the mouse?
[13:50] <Church> for some time absence of that extention for chromium kept me from trying out, as it's 'must have' plugin for me :)0
[13:50] <Rajasun> zortec: they may be busy hacking
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Church, I've been using it for a month now wiyj only one hitch yesterday which was fixed overnight , so far so good
[13:51] <Church> zortec: do that with keyboard.
[13:51] <om26er> indus: google chrome is chromium
[13:51] <indus> k
[13:51] <Church> zortec: do that with keyboard. ctrl+pgup/pgdown
[13:51] <BluesKaj> wiyj-with
[13:52] <Church> does flash works in linux chromium?
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Church:  it does here
[13:53]  * Dr_Willis double checks
[13:53] <Rajasun> Church: it does, so too in Chrome. But with the advent of html5, you may not even require flash to be installed to view flash videos
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Yes it works here.
[13:53] <om26er> Church: yes
[13:53] <zortec> Church, thanks that is what I'm looking for
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Church: chromium is awesome, slick and quick
[13:54] <zortec> Church, hmm not working
[13:54] <Church> Rajasun: flash videos is only part of it. there are lot enough sites with flashonly design arround :/
[13:54] <zortec> Church, ctrl+pgup you say?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> chromium + flash 64 + java 64 = win
[13:54] <Church> zortec: or ctrl+pgup, depending on direction you want to switch between open tabs in xchat.
[13:54] <Rajasun> Church: ithese sites work over on my side alright
[13:55] <Church> or ctrl+pgdown that is :)
[13:55] <sweetandy> zortec: You probably don't want to use a text-only IRC client, but irssi is very nice, pretty simple, and to switch channels you type ctrl-n and ctrl-p, next and previous
[13:55] <om26er> i cannot play poker in ubuntu on facebook. cannot see friends list
[13:55] <tipme> I have firefox downloaded into folder on the destop and using this one as a default browser than the one shipped with ubuntu.  Now I downloaded the adobe flash file libflashplayer.so from adobe site.  Where do I put this file?
[13:55] <om26er> installed ubuntu restricted extras and tested on  different machines
[13:56] <Church> tipme: in system wide or user specific browser plugin directory. depends on browser you're using.
[13:56] <Rajasun> yeaj irssi is one piece of work...so too scrollz
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> tipme: in the plugins folder where the firefox binary is
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> tipme: or in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[13:56] <zortec> Church, that is not working... and I don't have tabs all the channels are listed in the left column
[13:57] <zortec> Church, should probably also point out I'm using gnome-xchat
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> pidgin :D
[13:57] <Church> zortec: oh. dunno about gnome-xchat. i'm using generic gtk xchat version.
[13:57] <zortec> sweetandy, I've used irssi before and loved it, interesting enough could not find it in the ubuntu software center
[13:58] <Church> zortec: try googling about it's keyboard shortcuts. maybe there already are some, just different from generic, or maybe there is way to bind keyb. shortcuts
[13:58] <indus> zortec: i prefer gnome xchat its simple and unclettered
[13:58] <indus> uncluttered
[13:59] <phlexo> i use Konversation, the shortcuts are Ctrl+, and Ctrl+.   decent client, and available in software center
[13:59] <zortec> indus, is there a way to switch channels without having to use the mouse?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> pidgin does sametime which I need so I use its irc fuctionality too. One stop shop for chat
[14:00] <indus> zortec: hmm ctn N? BUT
[14:00] <zortec> To switch between channels use the CTRL + PgUP/PgDn keys.
[14:00] <zortec> hmm, that doesn't work in gnome xchat... even though that is what it's telling me
[14:00] <Church> phlexo: sounds like something from kde apps. prolly will need to install lot of kde/qt depndancies. imho overkill for simple irc client.
[14:00] <om26er> zortec: http://imagebin.org/74568
[14:00] <phlexo> church, yep its kde... coz i already use lots of kde stuff
[14:01] <om26er> zortec: is it there?
[14:02] <sixtila> This is not related but does anyone know from where i can pull up a daily Saint of the day for my website?
[14:02] <tipme> ActionParsnip, thank you, I got it to work.
[14:02]  * NeLLo86 weila
[14:02] <zortec> om26er, it is there now.  thank you
[14:03] <phlexo> sixtila: maybe #php will be a better place
[14:03] <shruggar> is there a gui for formatting / partitioning a newly-installed hard disk?
[14:03] <phlexo> shruggar: gparted
[14:04] <om26er> zortec: kidding, it the development release of software center in lucid.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> shruggar: gksudo gparted
[14:04] <zortec> om26er, oh, so you are just playing with me... I see
[14:05] <shruggar> what is the best command to use for copying the contents of an entire hard drive to another? rsync? cp -Ra?
[14:05] <root> shruggar: tar
[14:05] <indus> !backup
[14:05] <gburton> dd if=/dev/urandom of=<your device>
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> shruggar: there is no best anything
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> gburton: don't do that
[14:06] <Church> gburton: stop giving dangerous commands
[14:06] <indus> ass
[14:06] <root> indus: how courteous of you
[14:06] <phlexo> dump is good enough for backup
[14:06] <indus> there should be no tolerance for this kind of posts
[14:06] <gburton> ahh im sorry, i actually thought I was in another channel
[14:07] <phlexo> but grsync if u want GUI
[14:07] <indus> root: thanks
[14:08] <Church> gburton: next time be more careful. ubuntu often have novice users. and such 'advise' prolly won't rise reputation of distribution or it's community in their eyes :P
[14:09] <Rajasun> indus: Teah I agree. Someone earlier recommended in main to sudo rm /bin. And for what it worth, for those who don't kknow what the command does  DONN'T DO IT!
[14:09] <gburton> i know you probably dont believe me but I have a less formal channel tab right next to this one in chatzilla
[14:09] <gburton> ill be more careful next time...
[14:09] <indus> its the same bunch of people
[14:09] <indus> who are we fooling here
[14:09] <frogzoo> rm /bin does nothing :p
[14:09] <zortec> how do you file a bug with ubuntu?
[14:09] <indus> asmodeus i guess
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> !bug | zortec
[14:09] <indus> zortec: ubuntu-bug -p <packagename_
[14:10] <indus> zortec: ubuntu-bug -p <packagename>
[14:10] <zortec> but my bug has to do with the installer
[14:10] <krysia> microphone dont work on ubuntu 9,10, pulseaudio, any ideas?
[14:10] <Rajasun> sbin*
[14:10] <indus> zortec: ok then its different ,  a casper bug
[14:10] <Rajasun> indus: yeah
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> zortec: you can log a bug with the installer
[14:10] <indus> zortec: you need to follow some steps
[14:10] <indus> zortec: wait i help you
[14:10] <zortec> ok
[14:11] <zortec>  Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[14:11] <zortec> We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience.
[14:11] <zortec> Trying again in a couple of minutes might work.
[14:11] <zortec> what is that?
[14:11] <FloodBot4> zortec: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:11] <ratbert> what is the difference between dvd and the cd version
[14:11] <Church> it would be nice if pulseaudio would get dropped out of ubuntu default install :/. alsa, oss4 .. any alternative would be better by miles and cause less issues imho.
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> zortec: refresh te page, it may have burped or is down for maintenance
[14:12] <bwallen> When using the USB startup disk creator it always stops at 26% saying that checksums don't match. I tried using a disc and then redownloaded the iso file for 9.10 but they both have the same result.
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> ratbert: more apps on the CD, more languages
[14:12] <bwallen> Any ideas?
[14:12] <zortec> ActionParsnip, I can't get the page to come up... hmm
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> zortec: might be down then
[14:12] <ratbert> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:12] <zortec> damn, I just wanted to check the existing bugs list
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> bwallen: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[14:13] <vanduc> hi
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> bwallen: did you run the CD verifier
[14:13] <ratbert> bwallen, try UNEbootin
[14:13] <vanduc> I'm have been setup wallpaper-tray
[14:13] <vanduc> but I don't set time
[14:14] <krysia> microphone dont work any ideas?
[14:14] <vanduc> and My laptop got problem
[14:14] <vanduc> hic hic
[14:14] <dinosaurvskitten> is there a way to figure out which application is doing the most disk i/o? My hd is currently grinding away and I have no idea why. There doesn't seem to be an option for it in top.
[14:14] <LjL> !info iotop | dinosaurvskitten
[14:14] <indus> zortec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingCasper
[14:14] <zortec> ActionParsnip, ah it's back up now
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> zortec: coolio
[14:15] <ratbert> ActionParsnip, do you know how can i see my wifi card model??
[14:15] <vanduc> I rename folder
[14:15] <indus> zortec: u needa pen drive for it
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> ratbert: sudo lshw -C network
[14:15] <zortec> indus, what are you talking about?
[14:15] <nicolaus> olaus
[14:15] <zortec> indus, and why is a pen drive required to report a bug?
[14:15] <indus> zortec: you wanted to file a bug about the installer?
[14:15] <vanduc> Now .I can't add wallpaper-tray to panel
[14:15] <bwallen> thanks guys, I'll try those things
[14:15] <indus> zortec: it boots?
[14:15] <zortec> grawity, hey there
[14:15] <dinosaurvskitten> LjL, thanks
[14:15] <indus> zortec: aah sorry never mind
[14:15] <nicolaus> other than kde and gnome which other display i have
[14:16] <zortec> indus, yeah ubuntu 9.10 is installed, just would like to report a bug that I encountered which was during the installer the screen went black
[14:16] <zortec> indus, the screensaver should be suppressed
[14:16] <indus> zortec: ok sorry
[14:16] <indus> zortec: anyways u need the dmesg and casper logs
[14:16] <heinrich_> nicolaus, xfce?
[14:16] <indus> i  gtg now
[14:16] <zortec> indus, you have lost me now
[14:17] <piojunbabia> hi can anyone help me to install something?
[14:17] <piojunbabia> please?
[14:17] <indus> zortec: any installation related issues are recorded in casper.log
[14:17]  * Lord-Readman says vote on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22854/
[14:17]  * grawity waves to zortec
[14:17] <nicolaus> ty
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> nicolaus: you can use lxde, openbox,flwm, fluxbox, e17
[14:17] <zortec> indus, but there was no error... just I want to report that the screensaver should not come on when the installer is running
[14:17] <indus> zortec: youll figure it out
[14:17] <zortec> indus, does that make sense man?
[14:18] <indus> zortec: yeah itsa wishlist then, anyways file  a bug and it will be classified as such
[14:18] <xanadu> ciao a tutti
[14:18] <nicolaus> how do u message people
[14:18] <indus> zortec: oops sorry too much coffee
[14:18] <zortec> indus, so how do you file a wishlit? now that you got me way confused
[14:18] <indus> zortec: ok is a bug
[14:18] <zortec> indus, wishlist or bug...  or whatever it is lol
[14:18] <indus> zortec: yea bug cos screensaver comes on
[14:18] <nicolaus> indus how do i right the persons name to which i want to send
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> zortec: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[14:19] <indus> nicolaus: just write the nick in the message
[14:19] <zortec> ActionParsnip, would you say it's a bug or a wishlist item?
[14:19] <indus> nicolaus: press tab to autocomplet the nick
[14:19] <indus> nicolaus:
[14:19] <indus> nicolaus:
[14:19] <indus> nicolaus: see ?
[14:19] <zagabar> Yo! I am using ampache on my ubuntu server to stream music. However it doensn't work very nice with video, so I am wondering if there is some other software capable of streaming video of different encodings like mkv and such. The goal is to stream anime. =)
[14:19] <zortec> it's annoying, but launchpad keeps going down
[14:19] <ratbert> nicolaus, fist few letters of the nick and then tab
[14:20] <knoxville> Do any brighthat in here know how to stream music/videos to my xbox 360 on the local network?
[14:20] <Guest82548> what's the minimum amount of RAM it takes to run ubuntu 9.10 without running any apps?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> zortec: if its a problem with the system then its a bug, if its something that'd be nice then wishlist. If theres a newer version of a package which cures a bug you are experiencing then log a bug
[14:20] <deltaray> I'm not sure what I did, but for some reason all new windows are opening underneath other windows.  This is in Gnome on Karmic.  Its been doing this for a while, but is now starting to really annoy me.
[14:20] <ratbert> Guest82548, 256mb
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest82548: XUbuntu minimum is 256Mb
[14:20] <CShadowRun> Guest82548: the recommended system requirements is 256MB, however you might be able to get it to boot in 64.
[14:21] <bwallen> ActionParsnip: I checked the md5sum of my iso and it's good. Any other ideas as to why the USB disk creator would be giving me a checksum error?
[14:21] <CShadowRun> I've had hardy up in 128
[14:21] <CShadowRun> But yea, <256 isn't supported
[14:21] <indus> !ubiquity
[14:21] <zortec> ActionParsnip, I'm trying to determine if it's a bug or not... the problem was that the screensaver kicked in when the installer was going and the screen went black... I thought I lost my monitor but just had to move the mouse to make it come back
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest82548: you can install a minimal system and use flwm to get a realy minimal system
[14:21] <varadero> are there any documantation for multiple DSL conenction ? i have to make 3 pppoe conenction on different ethernet interfaces
[14:21] <varadero> are there any documantation for multiple DSL conenction ? i have to make 3 pppoe conenction on different ethernet interfaces its : ubuntu 9.10 server
[14:21] <indus> sometimes the monitor detects inactivity and goes sleep too
[14:21] <ratbert> Guest82548,  for ubuntu to run normaly you need 512 for xuvubtu to run normaly you need 256 run not walk :D
[14:21] <Guest82548> when I'm running a 256MB slice on Linode how much actual RAM do I get to use versus how much RAM is taken up by the OS image?
[14:21] <paissad-acer> hi all
[14:22] <paissad-acer> i try to remove one package, but i have this
[14:22] <paissad-acer> http://pastebin.fr/6218
[14:22] <indus> ok bye
[14:22] <CShadowRun> Guest82548: You do not want to run ubuntu desktop edition on your server.
[14:22] <Alloosh2> well, I got problem, php mail() is taking forever and not sending the mail at ALL, any advice ?
[14:22] <CShadowRun> Guest82548:  Ubuntu desktop edition is for desktops, not servers. You do not need a GUI on your server. It's a waste
[14:22] <Guest82548> server edition on the slice
[14:22] <ratbert> paissad-acer,  how did you installed it
[14:23] <CShadowRun> Guest82548: server edition, 64MB requirement 64MB use.
[14:23] <Guest82548> ok
[14:23] <CShadowRun> Guest82548: if you want less than that, Debian uses about 12MB out of the box. I use it on my server :)
[14:23] <paissad-acer> ratbert, hmm, via apt-get i think .. may be i don't remember well ... but i tried dpkg remove too
[14:23] <paissad-acer> and aptitude remove
[14:23] <Guest82548> so if Linode says "256" MB slice, it's really 256MB- 64MB of usable RAM?
[14:24] <grawity> Alloosh2: Do you have any MTA installed in the system? (And, is it a PC or a server?)
[14:24] <CShadowRun> Guest82548: i suppose so yes, the os will probably need somewhere between 20-64MB of ram to use
[14:24] <CShadowRun> Guest82548: a simple way of testing would be to install server edition in virtualbox, and then run free -m to see how much ram it's using.
[14:24]  * grawity thought Linode's minimum is 360 megs.
[14:24] <Alloosh2> grawity: Ubuntu-910-karmic-32-minimal
[14:24] <grawity> Alloosh2: ... so doo you have any MTA installed in the system? And is it a PC or a server?
[14:24] <Alloosh2> and I installed sendmail, tried exim, tried postfix
[14:24] <grawity> do*
[14:24] <ratbert> paissad-acer,  try apt-get update and then try to remove it again
[14:25] <Guest82548> cshadowrun: thanks a lot!
[14:25] <nicolaus> indus hey
[14:25] <CShadowRun> Guest82548: np
[14:25] <nicolaus> indus:
[14:25] <anli_> Is there a reason why buttons in ubuntu are sometimes not clickable any longer?
[14:25] <Alloosh2> grawity: server
[14:25] <om26er> anli_: you mean in flash.
[14:25] <grawity> Alloosh2: Have you checked the mail log? (/var/log/mail.log)  [Also, I recommend staying away from sendmail. Its config format can drive people to insanity.]
[14:25] <anli_> no, in eclipse for instance
[14:25] <om26er> ok
[14:26] <nicolaus> when i start up my computer it takes a while for the mouse to work y??
[14:26] <Alloosh2> grawity: what do you reccomend?
[14:26] <grawity> Alloosh2: Postfix, probably.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> nicolaus: when you get booted and the mouse finally works run: dmesg | tail
[14:26] <grawity> Alloosh2: Anyway, check mail log. Try sending with the 'mail' command.
[14:27] <om26er> which package to select in launchpad for bugs relating cursor?
[14:27] <om26er> mean touchpad not cliking
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-cursor
[14:28] <grawity> om26er: That would be a touchpad bug, not cursor...
[14:28] <nicolaus> actionparnip: where must i run it from
[14:28] <om26er> grawity: worked before after upgrade didn't work
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> om26er: synaptic touchpad driver, maybe. There is a boot option you can use: i8042.reset
[14:29]  * om26er should go to ubuntu+1
[14:29] <ab0oo> can someone please tell me the package that suggests packags when you try to run a binary that isn't installed?
[14:29] <Pici> !info command-not-found | ab0oo
[14:29] <ab0oo> tyvm
[14:30] <nicolaus> actionparsip where do i fun that from
[14:30] <nicolaus> ??
[14:30] <om26er> ok my problem solved or i got the answer. ubuntu+1 topic says that xorg is broken at the moment
[14:30] <ab0oo> and now, for the bonus round:  how do I fix the stupid "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." in aptitude ?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> om26er: tried the daily build ppa?
[14:31] <om26er> ActionParsnip: no, should I?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> nicolaus: run it i terminal to start the bug logging process, see the bug factoid
[14:31] <om26er> ActionParsnip: you talking about xorg daily ppa?
[14:32] <piojunbabia> anyone can help me install something? thank you..
[14:32] <om26er> !help | piojunbabia
[14:32] <ab0oo> piojunbabia: that's a little vague. what are you trying to install
[14:32] <llutz> ab0oo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[14:32] <ab0oo> llutz: I've done that a dozen times.  still fails.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> om26er: i use it, seems ok
[14:33] <piojunbabia> ab0oo gnomebaker so that i can burn my .iso
[14:33] <ab0oo> johng@virtbox:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[14:33] <ab0oo> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[14:33] <ab0oo> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[14:33] <ab0oo>         LANGUAGE = (unset),
[14:33] <FloodBot1> ab0oo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:33] <ab0oo>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[14:33] <ab0oo>         LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> om26er: i've reverted to the alpha/beta head I was when i was 16
[14:34] <ab0oo> aplogies for the flood.  meant to paste this:  http://pastebin.com/d1a3f3e41
[14:34] <ab0oo> dang pastebin plasma applet screwed me.
[14:35] <piojunbabia> ab0oo gnomebaker so that i can burn my .iso can you extend a hand?
[14:35] <ab0oo> sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[14:35] <mobal> hi
[14:36] <ab0oo> llutz: would it matter that the machine giving the locale error is a nfsroot/pxeboot machine?
[14:37] <piojunbabia> ab0oo, its not working
[14:37] <llutz> ab0oo: if LC/LANG-settings are ok it shouldn't matter
[14:37] <yabuk> how to write the command startx configuring the display?
[14:38] <om26er> ActionParsnip: xorg-edgers ppa is not made for karmic+1 yet
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> om26er: works here
[14:39] <om26er> ActionParsnip: using this: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/drivers-only
[14:39] <ab0oo> piojunbabia: what's it saying?  My ESP is on the fritz today.
[14:39] <om26er> ActionParsnip: ok got another that should work
[14:40] <ab0oo> llutz: that's what I keep thinking, but the "no such file" keeps coming back.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> om26er: try: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> om26er: those are just the drivers
[14:40] <Edgar1> hello, will it be a 9.10.1 version of ubuntu?(With all the updates in the same package)
[14:40] <om26er> ActionParsnip: yes it works
[14:41] <om26er> ActionParsnip: thanx
[14:41] <Pici> Edgar1: No, point releases are only made for LTS releases.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> om26er: ;)
[14:42] <zortec> why does launchpad go down so much?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> zortec: its busy is my guess
[14:43] <Edgar1> Pici, ok I have a alternative upgrade to 9.10, but when Im upgrading it stop by downloading a thousend of updates package...is this normal? is it a way to do it faster?
[14:43] <tazz> does having a large swap partition cause harm in anyway?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> tazz: not at all
[14:43] <Pekka> hi
[14:43] <Pekka> can someone help me?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> tazz: reduces storage space as you'd expect
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Pekka
[14:44] <Pici> Edgar1: Its normal.  If you install without an internet connection it may install faster, but it won't be updated.
[14:44] <Pekka> ok
[14:44] <Pekka> sorry
[14:44]  * om26er wil reboot now 
[14:44] <tazz> ActionParsnip, thats a very minuscule trade off
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> tazz: if you need it, set it up
[14:44] <Pekka> So, my problem is my java isn't up-date and I'm wondering how to update it? I'm very new user of Linux ubuntu
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Pekka: how did you install it?
[14:45] <Edgar1> Pici, i have tried but without the internet connection it still trying for the updates
[14:45] <tazz> ActionParsnip, thanks for the help
[14:45] <Edgar1> and then it wont finish
[14:45] <abc123> hi guys, i'm new to ubuntu and a new irc user... i would like to hide my address from irc for security reasons. i did some research and found "bnc" .. i just don't know how to configure it.
[14:45] <abc123> can anyways help me out
[14:45] <abc123> anyone*
[14:45] <sstv_> by bonne aprem
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> !cloak
[14:46] <Pekka> actionparsnip i havent installed anything yet
[14:46] <_bruno_xx> alguien habla español  ?
[14:46] <Pici> !es | _bruno_xx
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> !java | Pekka
[14:47] <abc123> thanks ActionParsnip, but will that work on efnet?
[14:47] <phlexo> abc123: u need to ask the mod for a cloak
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> abc123: if its irc then i guess, not sure. I don't wear a tinfoil hat
[14:47] <Edgar1> _bruno_xx ve a #ubuntu-es
[14:48] <cyberfin> Hiya everyone. Please help me with this... I'm clueless. My mouse pointer is freezing when opening certain programs: Opera, almost every movie player (except for vlc or mplayer) and posibly other programs I haven't discovered it with yet. Running Jaunty on AMD64
[14:48] <abc123> ActionParsnip, is ubuntu with firestarter safe enough? im also behind a firewall
[14:48] <Sacho> abc123: no, it won't, you'd have to check if efnet offers some sort of cloaking, or use a bnc
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> abc123: should be fine
[14:48] <cyberfin> Oh yeah, as soon as I quit those programs, mouse starts working again...
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> cyberfin: have you configured video drivers?
[14:48] <abc123> Sacho i installed bnc and got to the config screen.. just dont know where to look
[14:48] <cyberfin> yep nvidia
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> cyberfin: good choice ;)
[14:49] <cyberfin> :D
[14:49] <abc123> ok thanks guys im reassured that ubuntu is safe enough for the moment
[14:49] <Ka182> ola
[14:49] <llutz> abc123: if you need to hide your ip for security reasons, you made some  mistakes on other places
[14:49] <abc123> llutz?
[14:50] <abc123> what do you mean
[14:50] <llutz> abc123: configure your system right, no need to hide then
[14:50] <clueless2> good morning Furuno and everyone!
[14:51] <abc123> llutz is there a guide that will help me check
[14:51] <abc123> ubuntu default install with firestarter isnt enough?
[14:51] <abc123> my root has a password
[14:51] <llutz> ^^ 1st mistake
[14:51] <clueless2> furuno .. after I extended the HD last night or partition using the "gparted", now I can't copy anything onto that extended drive.  It says ... permission is denied ..
[14:51] <cyberfin> Is there anything that anyone can suggest that could be messing with the mouse pointer only in -some- programs?
[14:51] <abc123> lol
[14:51] <grawity> llutz: why is it?
[14:51] <abc123> nooo
[14:52] <abc123> how come
[14:52] <llutz> grawity: i just tried to follow *buntus non-root argumentation :)
[14:52] <grawity> Having a root password is not supported in #ubuntu, but I don't see any reasons why it is "bad".
[14:52] <Sacho> abc123: it's unlikely having your ip out in the open will lead to anything bad, unless you're running some public service that you don't want to be public.
[14:52] <knoxville> Do any on of you guys know how to make a xbox360 stream from an ubuntu pc?
[14:52] <Sacho> grawity: what does that mean, having a root password is not supported? :s
[14:53] <mr_joe> would someone be able to tell me hot to replace just the desktop on ubuntu? (not the WM, but the desktop itself)
[14:53] <grawity> Sacho: Dunno. Ubuntu natives seem to dislike it. They prefer the root account to stay locked.
[14:53] <om26er> is there a utility for touchpad settings except for the one in ubuntu
[14:53] <Mazeal> I have my partitions on an LVM2 volume on /dev/sda2.  If I boot from a cd that allows me to do a block level backup of that partition.  Can I restore that partition and expect all the logical volumes inside it to still exist and be mountable without any extraordinary effort?
[14:53] <sipior> knoxville: have a look at then "ushare" package.
[14:53] <llutz> abc123: just make sure to run only those services you really need, configure them as safe as possible (lots of tuts available online) and use /dev/brain
[14:53] <abc123> how can i lock root
[14:53] <llutz>  ;)
[14:53] <Sacho> grawity: how do you install things then?
[14:53] <Quan-Time> mr_joe: you mean from gnome to like xfce4 ?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> mr_joe: if you like gnome, keep it
[14:53] <grawity> Sacho: With 'sudo'.
[14:53] <abc123> lol
[14:53] <discopatrick> how do i allow login to ubuntu vie remote desktop *without* having to log in with the same user locally first?
[14:54] <mr_joe> ActionParsnip, actually, that is exactly what i want to do
[14:54] <mr_joe> ActionParsnip, it's ok if the file manager comes along for the ride too...
[14:54] <clueless2> how do I switch from one drive to another drive in Ubunto using Terminal mode.  As in DOS .. i can do a: b: or c: !Enter ..
[14:54] <danielwilms> hey
[14:54] <clueless2> how do I do it in Ubunto?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> mr_joe: then keep it, you have that option ;)
[14:54] <grawity> clueless2: Unix does not have "drives", only a single big filesystem.
[14:54] <danielwilms> does anybody know where to get official vmware images?
[14:54] <zortec> I chose to import my settings to firefox... how come my bookmarks are not showing?
[14:54] <zortec> this was in the ubuntu 9.10 installer
[14:54] <om26er> clueless2: cd /media/mountpoint
[14:54] <Quan-Time> clueless2: umm,, ubuntU doesnt really work that way
[14:54] <Sacho> grawity: I'm confused. Wouldn't having no root password allow your user to sudo at will?
[14:54] <clueless2> grawity .. okay then.  I have an extended dirve.. how do I do it
[14:55] <grawity> clueless2: Removable media usually are mounted in /media/<foo>
[14:55] <zagabar> Is there a nice way to stream anime-mkv's from an ubuntu machine?
[14:55] <abc123> If you want to disable root account in ubuntu you need to lock the root account by using the following command
[14:55] <abc123> $sudo passwd -l root
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> zortec: they are stored in a file in ~/.mozilla in a HTM file which you can backup[
[14:55] <abc123> ok ill do that
[14:55] <mr_joe> ActionParsnip, but... I want most GNOME components, but xfce desktop
[14:55] <grawity> Sacho: 'su' and 'sudo' are different things. 'su' asks for root's password, 'sudo' asks for your own.
[14:55] <Quan-Time> clueless2: yer. its like a virtual linked directory. thats all
[14:55] <clueless2> bash: cd: /media/mountpoint: No such file or directory
[14:55] <zortec> ActionParsnip, ok, where is that file?
[14:55] <clueless2> that's what I'm getting
[14:55] <clueless2> Quan_Time ... okay
[14:55] <grawity> Sacho: So to use 'su' you need to know the root's password, and to use 'sudo' you need to be listed in /etc/sudoers
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> mr_joe: you can install xfce4 and use the xfce desktop but use gnome apps
[14:55] <grawity> clueless2: 'ls /media'
[14:55] <Sacho> duh, I'm stupid :P
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> mr_joe: thats do-able also
[14:56] <Quan-Time> clueless2: ok... what you plug in.. a usb stick ?
[14:56] <clueless2> got something out of ther.e.
[14:56] <Quan-Time> clueless2: or you have a new hdd ?
[14:56] <abc123> thanks guys
[14:56] <clueless2> bac9a29-4fe7-4509-bc4f-6bf5a83b2659  cdrom  cdrom0  floppy  floppy0
[14:56] <clueless2> that's what I got
[14:56] <grawity> Sacho: When $USER installs Ubuntu, he is automatically added to the 'admin' group, which is listed in sudoers as '%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL' - everything allowed.
[14:56] <clueless2> Quan-Time ..not a new one ..but an extended HD .. Partitioned one
[14:56] <Sacho> grawity: thanks :)
[14:57] <grawity> clueless2: 'ls' should have printed all files and directories in /media ... now cd into one of them
[14:57] <clueless2> when I tried to copy anything onto that new partitioned drive .. it says I don't have permission to do so
[14:57] <om26er> how to create xorg.conf on intel graphics if not already there
[14:58] <mr_joe> ActionParsnip, maybe I'm not being clear enough. i want to use metacity. everything exactly the same as new Ubuntu install. except I want to use xfdesktop. just the desktop. no WM, no panel, nothing else. but I don't know how to change just the one thing.
[14:58] <grawity> mr_joe: Browse gconf, with gconf-editor.
[14:58] <clueless2> grawity ... freaking drive label has about 30 characters in it .. how do I change the label on the drive?
[14:58] <grawity> mr_joe: The GNOME desktop is drawn by 'nautilus'.
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> mr_joe: try booting to xfce desktop then run: metacity --rreplace
[14:58] <grawity> clueless2: Uh. Copy-paste. Or use tab completion.
[14:59] <Quan-Time> clueless2: check PM
[14:59] <selimaky> hi
[14:59] <om26er> i open synaptic touchpad settings and it say: You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics
[14:59] <clueless2> tab completion doesn't have the option to modify the able
[14:59] <clueless2> what is PM?
[14:59] <Quan-Time> om26er: harhar... laptop ? im still waiting on that to get fixed too...
[14:59] <treats> lol
[15:00] <grawity> clueless2: PM = private message.
[15:00] <Quan-Time> indeed
[15:00] <mr_joe> grawity, ActionParsnip, ok. I'll see what I can figure out
[15:00] <grawity> clueless2: Tab completion = type the first few letters (/media/bac) and press Tab.
[15:00] <Quan-Time> you dont have a new tab somewhere with my name on it ?
[15:00] <knoxville> Sipior: I've tried uShare, I can't get it to work.
[15:00] <clueless2> grawity ..heheh..thanks
[15:00] <sipior> knoxville: care to be more specific?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> clueless2: you can label it so the name is shorter
[15:01] <knoxville> Sipior: I've tried like 4-5 different applications, I just cant connect from my xbox.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !label | clueless2
[15:01] <clueless2> ubottu
[15:01] <clueless2> k
[15:01] <zortec> how do you import bookmarks from xp to ubuntu 9.10?
[15:01] <grawity> zortec: _What kind of bookmarks?_
[15:01] <sipior> knoxville: this is the xbox 360, right? fully updated?
[15:01] <fr500-work> zortec, depends on your browser
[15:01] <zortec> grawity, firefox bookmarks
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> zortec: http://www.nirmaltv.com/2007/07/25/how-to-back-up-bookmarks-in-firefox/
[15:02] <knoxville> sipior: Yep, it has no problems finding the windows machine
[15:02] <grawity> zortec: Boot XP, export them to a file, boot Ubuntu, import from a file.
[15:02] <fr500-work> zortec, i'd use xmarks
[15:03] <om26er> how to make xorg.conf? i am using intel gma950 and sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty. so what should i add in there for just synaptic settings.?
[15:03] <zortec> hmm isn't that what the import settings should have done?
[15:04] <sipior> knoxville: you set up multicast properly, according to the instructions at http://ushare.geexbox.org/?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> om26er: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=74861 theres one there just remove the driver line
[15:04] <fr500-work> zortec, no, import doesn't work across operating systems
[15:04] <timcccc> hello, i'm trying to get my USB sound to work.  please pastebin this txt for me
[15:04] <timcccc> http://pastie.org/504385.txt
[15:04] <timcccc> my isp blocks pastie.org :
[15:04] <timcccc> :E
[15:04] <clueless2> ubottu,ActionParsnip ..thanks!
[15:05] <abhilashm86>  /join linux-india
[15:05] <knoxville> sipior: i think so, i'll look into it. but you have no problem?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> zortec: you can use oogle bookmarks and you log in to the system with the bookmark app, your bookmarks are stored on the web
[15:06] <sipior> knoxville: not using it at the moment, but it's certainly known to work.
[15:08] <vms> hi
[15:08] <m0RrE> i just installed ubuntu-minimal to use on my eee pc.. i'm wondering what files to edit to get proper hardware acceleration from my integrated intel graphics card..
[15:08] <m0RrE> or what packages to install
[15:09] <m0RrE> it works perfectly when doing a full ubuntu install with gnome, but i don't need all that for now.. running openbox
[15:09] <grawity> timcccc: http://sprunge.us/eDMD
[15:09] <m0RrE> any ideas?
[15:09] <grawity> timcccc: also, what kind of an idiotic ISP is that?
[15:09] <sinan> I have a problem with my webserver (both nginx and apache). When making them bind on port 80 they bind but no connections are established (Even locally), but it works fine on port 81, any ideas?
[15:10] <timcccc> they also block your sprunger grawity. the isp known as china
[15:11] <grawity> O_o
[15:11] <grawity> timcccc: Try http://existence.binaryhex.com/~grawity/files/504385.txt then
[15:11] <Sacho> gravity is blocked in china too, because of nonconformity. ;)
[15:11] <jherraez> hey, what does it mean when an update says (new install) in the update manager?
[15:11] <grawity> Sacho: I wouldn't be surprised if I actually was.
[15:11] <pulseezar> dear all, is there some way i can make rhythm box scan the folders it is supposed to be monitoring? it doesn't seem to be updating itself. the folder in question is on another computer.
[15:12] <bobo712> 深夜了 问大家一个问题：vim中我已经设置了set tabstop=4，但是为什么tab还是6格的？？
[15:12] <Sacho> grawity: I meant the physical entity
[15:12] <grawity> jherraez: I think it's a package that will be freshly installed, maybe a new dependency, or a split package.
[15:12] <Hans_Henrik> i wanna try to custom-compile the drivers for my WLAN card.. when i check the connection manager->info it says "driver: iwl3945" - any1 know where to get the source?
[15:12] <jherraez> i see
[15:12] <jiffe98> anyone know why it takes much longer for me to log into a 9.10 system than it does 9.04?
[15:12] <jiffe98> after typing in the password there is a good 5-6 second delay now
[15:13] <Quan-Time> jiffe98: some ppl have it, some dont.. its not "random" but it is a known issue (or so i read somewhere)
[15:13] <Quan-Time> i personally dont.. yay me
[15:14] <bobo712> 深夜了 问大家一个问题：vim中我已经设置了set tabstop=4，但是为什么tab还是6格的？？
[15:14] <Hiram> so i just did an update on my 9.10 box. installed the 2.6.31-16-generic kernel and now i can't do any 3D stuff (desktop effects, etc). any ideas? my card is a radeon x800 xl.
[15:14] <jiffe98> ic
[15:14] <Rajasun> bobo712: #ubuntu-cn
[15:14] <jiffe98> well every VM I've updated to 9.10 seems to do it
[15:14] <calle>  How to fix a problem with unmet dependencies? I accidentally installed libssl0.9.8 manually using dpkg, and now trying to install libssl-dev using apt I get an error telling me "libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8g-15ubuntu3.3) but  0.9.8k-6 is to be installed"; however trying to run dpkg -r libssl0.9.8 warns me it has like 10,000 dependencies so I shouldn't do that. Now how do I fix this? :P
[15:14] <om26er> !cn | bobo712
[15:14] <zortec> I'm going to boot into windows and go through my bookmarks, then export my bookmarks as html file and go back in ubuntu and use the import feature
[15:14] <boscop> hi.how can I set my screen resolution higher than 1280x800? xrandr says, max is 8192x8192. an hour ago I used this laptop with a beamer and afterwards the resolution was higher (!) than 1280x800 although in the list that xrandr shows this is the highest value! after rebooting it was back to this but I liked the higher resolution more. how can I get it back?
[15:15] <om26er> calle: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:15] <grawity> zortec: Better export as JSON. (The HTML format would lose all your tags.)
[15:15] <om26er> try iy
[15:15] <bobo712> sorry~
[15:15] <zortec> grawity, what is the difference in JSON and HTML? I'
[15:15] <calle> I will om26er, thanks
[15:15] <zortec> grawity, I'm not accustomed to JSON
[15:15] <om26er> !ot | zortec
[15:15] <zortec> om26er, is that not an ubuntu related question?
[15:16] <om26er> zortec: no.
[15:16] <sipior> zortec: you're fine, no worries.
[15:16] <grawity> zortec: "Export HTML" - the old format of bookmark exchange. Basically a webpage with some additional invisible stuff. Introduced with a really old version of Netscape but still used often, mostly because it uses HTML, like all web pages do.
[15:17] <grawity> zortec: "Backup as JSON" - will store in a format that only Firefox supports (JSON itself is standardized, but the data isn't) - but it will store everything that Firefox knows about: tags, dates, descriptions.
[15:17] <assad> how can i run *.sh files?
[15:17] <calle> assad: chmod +x *.sh
[15:18] <calle> then ./*.sh
[15:18] <grawity> zortec: The JSON format as used by Firefox is mainly for backup, and for transferring between Firefox profiles.
[15:18] <zortec> assad, .sh file is a shell script
[15:18] <zortec> grawity, will that be an option in windows when I export from firefox?
[15:18] <holden_>  /j #ubuntu-chat
[15:19] <assad> thanks guys!
[15:19] <grawity> zortec: All recent Firefox versions support it. In 3.x, it's the "Backup" option under Bookmarks -> Organize Bookmarks -> Import/Export.
[15:19] <zortec> grawity, ok will be back when I get done :)
[15:20] <calle> om26er: I tried the -f option, didn't really change anything
[15:20] <Ka182> marcelo
[15:22] <lyhana8> hi, I got a problem with sound, it work only on amarok
[15:22] <lyhana8> nothing on vlc, (s)mplayer, rhythmbox
[15:23] <Rova> Does the Ubuntu translation team have any irc channel?
[15:24] <hojda_>  What linux package system offers the most software available/installable ?
[15:25] <sam_> debian
[15:25] <Quan-Time> hojda_: you mean outta the box ?
[15:25] <lyhana8> hojda_: gentoo
[15:25] <sam_> but you probably want ubuntu
[15:25] <Quan-Time> or DVD release ?>
[15:25] <sj4m35-15> any 9.10 users?
[15:25] <genii> !translate | Rova - here is their main website, an irc channel may be listed from there :
[15:25] <Rova> You can compile everything from source so the awnser is probably all distributions
[15:25] <Rajasun> Rova: yes #ubuntu-translators
[15:25] <lyhana8> hojda_: but on gentoo you need to compile your apps
[15:26] <sj4m35-15> which irc client are you using?
[15:26] <hojda_> Quan-Time, I do not understand. What linux offers the most count of software ?
[15:26] <lyhana8> sj4m35-15: probably a lot so just ask
[15:26] <hojda_> lycidas, I knon, I think is is not problem
[15:26] <sam_> I think debian has the most pre-packaged?
[15:26] <sj4m35-15> any irssi users?
[15:26] <hojda_> sam_, I do not know :)
[15:27] <Rova> hojda_, You can most certinely get every application for linux running on any distribution.
[15:27] <llutz> !ask | sj4m35-15
[15:27] <Quan-Time> hojda_: umm.. im gonna have to say debian too.. since ubuntu is based on ubuntu.. as most things are.. linux mint is based on ubuntu.. thus, many of the packages (programs) are inter changable..
[15:27] <warriorforgod> sj4m35-15: I am using irssi
[15:27] <hojda_> Rova, I see
[15:27] <sj4m35-15> why can't i chat on irc.efnet.net?
[15:27] <new_here> are some germans here?
[15:28] <warriorforgod> sj4m35-15: Are you getting some kind of error or what?
[15:28] <clueless2> what can I do to copy files to the partitioned drive.  Currently i'm not able to copy files onto it.
[15:28] <sj4m35-15> do i need a password or something?
[15:28] <sj4m35-15> no.
[15:28] <genii> new_here: There probably are some Germans in their channel, #ubuntu-de
[15:28] <warriorforgod> sj4m35-15: How are you trying to connect?
[15:28] <new_here> oh, thanks
[15:28] <sj4m35-15> i can't see what other people are typing
[15:28] <sam_> hojda_, well I think it does.
[15:28] <clueless2> it says "Permission could NOT be dertimined ..."
[15:28] <hojda_> Quan-Time, I remember I could install or run Vmware PC in SLAX, but I think now in debian I can not.
[15:28] <sj4m35-15> i can connect just fine
[15:29] <aaron11> Hi ubuntu brains! I have a problem. My Pidgin is adding my jabber account to my jabber account over and over! Is this posible to stop! It is getting on my nerves. :@!!! :)
[15:29] <warriorforgod> sj4m35-15: Give me the name of a channel you are in on efnet
[15:29] <sj4m35-15> is it becuz it's invite only?!?!
[15:29] <sj4m35-15> i believe it's the #linux channel
[15:30] <aaron11> sj4m35-15: Correction ##linux
[15:30] <sj4m35-15> do i need to double pound?? ##like so?
[15:30] <sj4m35-15> and not just one pound?
[15:30] <aaron11> sj4m35-15: It will redirect but the actual name is ##
[15:31] <sj4m35-15> ok
[15:31] <Jimi_Neutral> dont spose anyone here knows of a yoga irc channel do they
[15:31] <sj4m35-15> kewl
[15:31] <sj4m35-15> i'm a total n00b at this irc thing
[15:31] <aaron11> sj4m35-15: Please talk ot in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:31] <sj4m35-15> any idea where i can find more info on irc commands?
[15:31] <aaron11> !freenode | sj4m35-15
[15:32] <pol-ar> how to provide password IN the sudo command line?
[15:32] <sj4m35-15> what's the topic?
[15:32] <Quan-Time> sj4m35-15: everyone has their areas of ignorance.. and im sure i have as many as you.. just coz you are a first time irc user.. you gotta start somewhere
[15:32] <aaron11> pol-ar: Just type them
[15:32] <aaron11> !topic
[15:32] <sj4m35-15> like i said i'm a total n00b!!
[15:32] <thedancingdeer> can anyone suggest a good video manager! something like quodlibet, but for video management!
[15:32] <aaron11> sj4m35-15: Well do you have a question
[15:32] <pol-ar> aaron11: was I off-topic?
[15:33] <Quan-Time> pol-ar: do you mean like "sudo (password) (command-i-wanna-do) ????
[15:33] <llutz> pol-ar: you cannot
[15:33] <aaron11> pol-ar: ???
[15:33] <pol-ar> Quan-Time: does that actually works??
[15:33] <zortec> I just installed adobe flash in firefox 3.5 on ubuntu 9 .10 and it's locking up... or does not appear to be responding
[15:34] <aaron11> pol-ar: If you want continus access to su then type sudo -i and your password or just a quick sudo just do sudo <COMAND>
[15:34] <Quan-Time> pol-ar: nope.. not at all
[15:34] <sj4m35-15> zortec:what hardware you using?
[15:34] <rochas> hi everyone
[15:34] <pol-ar> Quan-Time: just tried it, you're right, it doesn't.
[15:34] <aaron11> Hi ubuntu brains! I have a problem. My Pidgin is adding my jabber account to my jabber account over and over! Is this posible to stop! It is getting on my nerves. :@!!! :)
[15:34] <sj4m35-15> rochas:hello
[15:34] <Quan-Time> pol-ar: mainly because all your commands are logged
[15:34] <Quan-Time> pol-ar: so it prevents you from typing it in viewable text
[15:35] <pol-ar> Quan-Time: I see.
[15:35] <sj4m35-15> well, seems like the irc client is working just fine...
[15:35] <sj4m35-15> laterz...
[15:35] <sj4m35-15> thanx for the info...
[15:35] <pol-ar> ok, thanks all for the help. I'll be back later.
[15:36] <UserC> Can anyone tell me if there's a color code script for xchat? and if so, how to use it?
[15:37] <waseidel> hi there, i have a trouble with wiki.ubuntu.com and with my user WaSeidel may i have some help here or it's just in #ubuntu-website?
[15:37] <Quan-Time> UserC: there is.. search around.. theres even a plugin for it..
[15:37] <UserC> Can anyone tell me if there's a color code script for xchat? And if so, how to use it?
[15:37] <fofh> How I can use kqemu? Qemu shows open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory if I start the vm
[15:37] <UserC> Quan-Time, I did, I can't seem to find anything :/
[15:37] <Cube``> hey guys, where can i get the ubuntu default monospace font to download?
[15:38] <Quan-Time> UserC: wow.. weird.. i remember using it once..
[15:38] <UserC> Quan-Time, er, can't you perhaps find it again?
[15:38] <grawity> Cube``: It's "DejaVu Sans Mono", available at http://dejavu-fonts.org/
[15:38] <Cube``> grawity: perfect! thank you
[15:39] <clueless2> anyone knows how to enable or give the permission to the ext2 ? b/c I can't copy any files onto it.
[15:39] <jason__> whats up guys
[15:39] <fofh> i loaded the kqemu kernel modul but it's not working
[15:39] <UserC> Can anyone tell me if there's a color code script for xchat? And if so, how to use it?
[15:39] <Quan-Time> UserC: i wasted almost 8 years on xchat, and i refuse to cause me more pain.. im trying to forget it...
[15:39] <llutz> clueless2: chown, chmod
[15:39] <Quan-Time> UserC: umm... gimmie a sec, ill see if i got something.
[15:39] <grawity> clueless2: Do you know the drive's mountpoint?
[15:39] <zortec> I want to try a different flash player instead of adobe flash, can I remove the adobe one or do you recommend not to?
[15:39] <UserC> Quan-Time, what does that mean exactly..? xD
[15:39] <UserC> Quan-Time, thanks ^^
[15:40] <clueless2> yes it is mounted
[15:40] <vagvaf_> hello, i seem to have some problems with the graphic environment. it is strangely slow for a brand new computer (i have ATI and ubuntu 9.04). do u have any suggestions of how i can see wht's wrong?
[15:41] <grawity> clueless2: And to where exactly?
[15:41] <Quan-Time> UserC: what are you trying to colour ?
[15:41] <Quan-Time> just a skin change ? or what ?
[15:41] <clueless2> onto the HD2 ...
[15:41] <clueless2> grawity ... it's a one hard drive w/ a 250 gis.  when Installed Ubunto .. i made a 40 gigs for the OS itself and the other is allocated
[15:42] <UserC_> Quan-Time, the text, i meant a color code script
[15:42] <UserC_> Quan-Time, like.. that all the text i type will appear as blue to others
[15:42] <Quan-Time> UserC_: oh,, you want colour codes for a one off line change ?
[15:42] <Quan-Time> its in the help file isnt it ?
[15:42] <Quan-Time> umm, i strip colours personally so i never used it. BUT.. err..
[15:43] <Quan-Time> damned if i remember.. 2 secs
[15:43] <UserC_> Quan-Time, i didn't understood you, i just want that the color code will be used automatically to be more specific
[15:43] <clueless2> grawity .. still here?
[15:43] <grawity> UserC_: Ctrl-K, then the colour number, then your text. (Current colours can be found in Settings.) Note that most of Freenode's channels block colours.
[15:43] <laeg> i reinstalled ubuntu 9.10 on my / partition although i kept my /~ intact. when i now try to ssh to the server running on the same machine as the client even though it used to work it now tells me SSH Warning: Remote host identification has changed! how do i make it work as it used to?
[15:43] <grawity> clueless2: I was asking for the directory path
[15:43] <K|nG> Hey when i Brun UBUNTU to CD need to burn like .iso file or Extract it ?
[15:43] <Quan-Time> UserC_: http://t0x.in/xchattextevents.html
[15:43] <vagvaf_> .iso
[15:43] <K|nG> Ahh nice
[15:43] <Quan-Time> read that.. should do what you want >?
[15:43] <K|nG> :)
[15:44] <grawity> UserC_: Also, it quickly becomes annoying if someone types each and every message in blue.
[15:44] <Sacho> laeg: it is working properly
[15:44] <Cube``> hey guys, what (ubuntu)-popular GUI applications have a text frontend? for example, pidgin has one, called finch (though this is more like a standalone program, i'm asking if there exist frontends)
[15:44] <K|nG> vagvaf_: Thanks
[15:44] <K|nG> :D
[15:44] <llutz> laeg: remove old id from ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[15:44] <clueless2> grawity ..i'm new to this Linux thing .. what do you mean
[15:44] <grawity> laeg: Remove the old fingerprint with 'ssh-keygen -R <hostname>'
[15:44] <vagvaf_> np
[15:44] <Sacho> I type slow :(
[15:44] <grawity> clueless2: You know directories?
[15:44] <clueless2> directory name or label name is hd2
[15:44] <clueless2> when i typed ls /media
[15:44] <CShadowRun> Cube``: the CLI interface would be the backend, not the frontend
[15:44] <grawity> clueless2: And where exactly is that? /media/hd2 ?
[15:44] <UserC_> Quan-Time, thanks, i'll take a look
[15:44] <clueless2> shows me all the directories or drives
[15:44] <clueless2> yeah
[15:44] <grawity> CShadowRun: Not necessarily...
[15:44] <Quan-Time> UserC_: np
[15:45] <CShadowRun> grawity: well, in most cases
[15:45] <CShadowRun> :)
[15:45] <UserC_> grawity, i did not understand your method, and nah it doesn't become annoying :P
[15:45] <grawity> CShadowRun: For example, Finch is a frontend to libpurple. ncmpc is a frontend to mpd.
[15:45] <CShadowRun> grawity: indeed :)
[15:45] <mrbit> ciao a tutti
[15:45] <grawity> UserC_: Depends on whether you have colour filtering on
[15:45] <Cube``> CShadowRun: oh im sorry. so what is a backend then?
[15:45] <aaron11> Hi ubuntu brains! I have a problem. My Pidgin is adding my jabber account to my jabber account over and over! Is this posible to stop! It is getting on my nerves. :@!!! :)
[15:46] <grawity> Cube``: Dunno about frontends and backends, but: vim and emacs and nano are the three most popular terminal-based editors; mutt and alpine for email clients; irssi and weechat for IRC.
[15:46] <UserC_> grawity, eh.. never really annoyed me when others did it. could you perhaps explain your method again?
[15:47] <Cube``> grawity: yeah, thanks for the list! any other programs like that?
[15:47] <lyhana8> how could I restart pulseaudio ?
[15:47] <grawity> UserC_: mIRC colour codes start with a special symbol inserted by pressing Ctrl-K, and then the colour number. For example, ^K07 (or ^K7) means colour #7. And ^K12,4 would be text in colour #12, with #4 as background.
[15:48] <laeg> llutz: grawity: ty - do i need to re-add it? or just connect?
[15:48] <UserC> grawity, ah, yes i know but what i am looking for is for a way that the color code will be automatically inserted
[15:48] <llutz> laeg: connect, will ask to add then
[15:48] <grawity> laeg: Just connect. When ssh sees that there's no entry in known_hosts, it will add the current one (after asking you to confirm)
[15:49] <grawity> UserC: I refuse to answer that question based on my personal beliefs, and my complete lack of knowledge regarding Xchat scripting. Try #xchat (in freenode).
[15:49] <Rajasun> Cube``: if I'm getting you right here...you want the cli frontends to ppopulat GUI Linux apps right? Here are 2 of them gftp-text, deluge-console
[15:50] <laeg> llutz: grawity: Host key verification failed.
[15:50] <UserC> grawity, your personal beliefs...? xD entertaining.
[15:50] <Cube``> Rajasun: yeah exactly! thanks. keep them going please
[15:50] <llutz> laeg: you removed the wrong one :)
[15:50] <grawity> laeg: ...And you sure you have removed the entry?
[15:51] <laeg> llutz: grawity: i did ssh-keygen -R skyrocket (the name of my computer) - have to run to work but will try whatever you suggest when i'm back this evening - ty for help
[15:51] <nikolam> pastebin.ubuntu.com seems like not working, i think
[15:51] <grawity> laeg: How about doing this: 1) Add this to ~/.ssh/config http://dpaste.com/130787/plain/ 2) Remove ~/.ssh/known_hosts completely
[15:51] <grawity> nikolam: Because it's paste.ubuntu.com
[15:51] <grawity> nikolam: And there are many more other pastebins too.
[15:51] <neonpolaris> Hey guys, is it okay to ask a general linux question here?
[15:52] <Rajasun> Cube``: if U can recall that is...others can chip in...well aptitude, apt-get are another 2 more
[15:52] <sipior> neonpolaris: ask away.
[15:52] <neonpolaris> I'm trying to send an e-mail from the commandline
[15:52] <lyhana8> neonpolaris: ask, people will send to the appropriate channel if needed
[15:52] <nikolam> ahaa
[15:52] <neonpolaris> out through my ISP's smtp server
[15:52] <Cube``> Rajasun: huh?
[15:53] <Quan-Time> can you chown a whole drive ? when you dont have write permissions ?
[15:53] <Quan-Time> best way to enable writing to a part when its not letting you ?
[15:53] <nikolam> grawity, yes, paste.ubuntu.com works! . An yes, there are
[15:53] <grawity> Quan-Time: Root can chown anything. Normal users cannot chown.
[15:53] <nikolam> :)
[15:53] <neonpolaris> I think if I send it directly, alot of mail servers will disreguard it as spam
[15:54] <zortec> I'm trying to play a radio station through last.fm and the audio is very low... any help please
[15:54] <grawity> Cube``: http://dpaste.com/130789/
[15:54] <neonpolaris> I've installed sendmail, but I'm a bit lost on the config
[15:54] <Quan-Time> grawity: workin with clueless2.. still not sure about his problem.. even tried the cheat "sudo nautilus" which often works for things...
[15:54] <Rajasun> Cube``: do not aptitude, apt, dpkg perform exactly (if not more) what synaptic, software center do largely?
[15:54] <lzrdking> how come jaunty drops my bluetooth connections, and i either need to completely remove the device and re-add it, or sometimes i even need to reboot?  how can i keep my devices connected, or at least make it so they can reconnect consistently?
[15:54] <grawity> neonpolaris: Get rid of sendmail, then.
[15:54] <grawity> neonpolaris: Its configuration can drive people insane.
[15:54] <neonpolaris> not sure if it's the right utility
[15:54] <neonpolaris> ah, thanks
[15:54] <grawity> neonpolaris: If this is a server, I recommend postfix (or maybe exim4).
[15:54] <sipior> neonpolaris: yeah, try postfix instead of sendmail. and arrange to use your isp's mail server as a "smart relay"
[15:54] <clueless2> grawity .. Quan-Time has been tried to help for over 30 minutes already and I got no luck so far
[15:54] <neonpolaris> no, not a mail server
[15:55] <grawity> neonpolaris: For personal computers, esmtp or msmtp, both are simple send-only MTAs.
[15:55] <Cube``> or maybe ways how to control certain apps from console?
[15:55] <clueless2> i'm determined to make this thing work .. if there is a possible way ..
[15:55] <zortec> the volume is also maxed, but I can't really hear anything
[15:55] <neonpolaris> postfix, with my ISP as a smart relay
[15:55] <Quan-Time> clueless2: theres a way.. im just puzzled its not going anywhere..
[15:55] <lzrdking> I'm going back to windows until i can resolve my bluetooth issue
[15:55] <lzrdking> aUGHH!!  wINDOWS!! the Devil!
[15:55] <clueless2> Quan-Time .. thanks
[15:55] <grawity> neonpolaris: Just install esmtp|msmtp, they both are designed for relaying through an ISP's smarthost. I assume you don't need incoming mail?
[15:56] <clueless2> keep on thinking ..lols (thanks)
[15:56] <neonpolaris> no, not recieving ever
[15:56] <zortec> it's also using internal audio... no idea if that is my sound card
[15:56] <grawity> neonpolaris: Okay, so get one of these two. No need to have postfix running all the time.
[15:57] <neonpolaris> Ok, I'll go read up on esmtp and msmtp.
[15:57] <grawity> neonpolaris: And... have you installed a MUA too? (mutt, alpine, or for extreme simplicity - bsd-mailx)
[15:57] <neonpolaris> Not installed mua.
[15:58] <shredder12> Hello everyone, I am unable to publish my pgp key on ubuntu key server ..  more info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349293
[15:58] <Quan-Time> grawity: heh.. fstab.. he just made the partition.. heh ;)
[15:58] <zortec> ok, fixed it... not sure what I did but should it be analog stereo duplex?
[15:58] <zortec> I am wearing headphones...
[15:59] <Al2O3> hi, what is the dev channel for ubuntu?
[15:59] <zortec> oh, I had to turn up the output volume... guess t hat would help
[15:59] <maco> Al2O3: #ubuntu-devel
[16:00] <Al2O3> maco, thanks.
[16:00] <Quan-Time> whats ##ubuntu ? is there one ?
[16:00] <Quan-Time> ah.. nope
[16:00] <neonpolaris> Thanks everyone, I'm off to do more research!
[16:01] <piojunbabia> !gnome
[16:02] <piojunbabia> !desktop
[16:02] <wtt> hi, installed th closed source drivers of nvidia on my alienware laptop. now i can only use recovery mode. how can i go back to my original driver?
[16:02] <hojda_> Could you help me to make first step of setting the gnome ? http://penguininside.blogspot.com/2009/08/top-10-gnome-performance-tweaks.html
[16:03] <piojunbabia> hi, i always here, read, etc the word gnome but i do not know what it is and what it does, can anyway give me a hint? thanks...
[16:03] <piojunbabia> !gnome
[16:04] <lzrdking> is Xubuntu without any desktop environment?
[16:04] <piojunbabia> so in ubuntu, we can replace out desktop environment?
[16:04] <grawity> lzrdking: No, it comes with Xfce.
[16:04] <grawity> piojunbabia: You can do that in any Linux distro... Ubuntu just makes it easier.
[16:04] <nascentmind> hi. while installing nasm i get this message "Ignoring install-info called from maintainer script The package nasm should be rebuild with new debhelper to get trigger support". What does it mean?
[16:04] <piojunbabia> gravity thanks
[16:05] <Rajasun> piojunbabia: http://linuxreviews.org/software/desktops/
[16:05] <lzrdking> how come jaunty drops my bluetooth connections, and i either need to completely remove the device and re-add it, or sometimes i even need to reboot?  how can i keep my devices connected, or at least make it so they can reconnect consistently?
[16:05] <piojunbabia> thanks for the link...
[16:05] <wtt> hi, installed th closed source drivers of nvidia on my alienware laptop. now i can only use recovery mode. how can i go back to my original driver?
[16:05] <lzrdking> this happens with my BT mouse and both Sony phones that have bluetooth remotes
[16:05] <petsounds> piojunbabia : i think gnome is the best desktop environment around, i like kde bt it's not really easy to use for amateurs like me.
[16:06] <grawity> piojunbabia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kde http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce - Ubuntu comes with these. But it's possible to mix components from GNOME and Xfce, for example... Or not even have a DE at all, just a single window manager (like I'm using at the moment)
[16:06] <lzrdking> i am using ktorrent with the gnome desktop; it needed to install a lot of KDE deps
[16:06] <piojunbabia> gravity: thats a lot of link and is appreciated
[16:06] <zortec> another question,  I made my /home partition 80+ GB, why is there 65.7 free now?
[16:07] <zortec> I haven't installed anything in /home
[16:07] <lzrdking> if you made it 80000 MB, it could be a counting issue
[16:07] <nascentmind> anybody?
[16:07] <littlegreen>  hey guys! Erm... why is it that whenever I "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" Update manager always starts and tells me there are updates to be installed ? Aren't those two commands supposed to keep my system up-to-date?
[16:07] <lzrdking> or 80000000KB, an even greater counting discrepancy
[16:07] <Rajasun> yeah most of us do use KDE/QT apps e.g. smplayer, minitube even if we are using the GNOME desktop
[16:08] <zortec> it imported all my documents and settings... that is why
[16:09] <petsounds> lzrdking : can you download torrent with kTorrent in private tracker like bitsoup? cause i can't :(
[16:09] <thedancingdeer> can anyone suggest a good video manager! something like quodlibet, but for video management!
[16:10] <clueless2> for some reason I can't copy anything on to the hd2 which is formatted as EXT2 ..
[16:10] <shruggar> I've just installed a new hard drive and copied the entire "old" hard drive to the "new" one. I now need to install the bootloader onto the new hard drive, but I'm not sure how to go about it. I have tried: sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdb    but this is apparently not all that was needed.   When I removed the "old" hard drive and plugged the "new" hard drive into the "old" one, I received an error message stating something along
[16:10] <shruggar> the lines of a partition not being able to be read
[16:10] <clueless2> is there a way to do this .. i have read this site http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-1856-access-disk-partition-ext2-3
[16:10] <lzrdking> petsounds: i am using private trackers in ktorrent
[16:10] <clueless2> but can't find the directory or file /etc
[16:10] <llutz> clueless2: chown, chmod
[16:10] <clueless2> llutz
[16:10] <clueless2> how
[16:11] <grawity> clueless2: So is it /media/hd2 ?
[16:11] <llutz> clueless2: read man-pages (sudo chown user:grp /mntpoint
[16:11] <clueless2> grawity ..yes
[16:11] <shruggar> I formatted the new drive as ext4, I don't know if that's what is causing the problem
[16:11] <grawity> clueless2: sudo chmod -R a+rwX /media/hd2
[16:11] <grawity> clueless2: To allow everyone to write into it.
[16:12] <jl-satyr> i'm trying to store my ecryptfs passphrase on a usb drive, but i can't get it to mount at boot and stay mounted after gnome starts on login.  gnome-volume-manager wants to unmount it and remount it so that i get an icon on the desktop for the drive.  but when it's unmounted, of course, i can't mount my encrypted /home/...  any help?
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> clueless2:  or make a sub directory on the drive and chown/chmod it so you can let a user have access to that dir.
[16:12] <ScoobyDoo> How can I run my script in the background upon start up? I Tried "update-rc.d Auto.bash &"
[16:12] <clueless2> Dr_Willis, Gravity ...it works
[16:13] <clueless2> Jes .... it's been over 2 hours since I've been looking to do this
[16:13] <clueless2> it works now
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> ScoobyDoo:  depends on what you want/need the scripts to do.   uodate-rd.d is for services i belive. not just any script
[16:13] <om26er> how can i disable grub2 to probe for my /root partition?
[16:13]  * grawity wishes people learned to tab-complete his nick for once.
[16:13] <clueless2> Thanks Grawity! you have brightened my  morning
[16:13] <Dr_Willis> clueless2:  linux filesystem/permission fundamentals :)
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> clueless2:  you could of just made a directory on the drive and let the user have full permissions to that also.  makes it a little 'neater'
[16:14] <om26er> i see the error device not found "UUID.."  but the system can boot so how can i disable that
[16:14] <littlegreen> Hey guys... I'm having some trouble with my HP Laserjet 4050N... It has 2 paper trays but always attempts to print from the first one... there's no "Tray" options in the Printer's properties to choose from... could someone suggest me where to look?
[16:15] <lzrdking> how come jaunty drops my bluetooth connections, and i either need to completely remove the device and re-add it, or sometimes i even need to reboot?  how can i keep my devices connected, or at least make it so they can reconnect consistently?  it happens with my BT mouse and with both sony phones that have a BT remote (apparently only one phone can be connected at a time, but one is better than none!)
[16:15] <om26er> lzrdking: tried karmic?
[16:16] <clueless2> Dr_Willis .. i will but in the past few hours... it has been bothering me b/c I couldn't anything to copy onto
[16:16] <lzrdking> om26er: no, i am using it to run Boxee which is not supported in Karmic and does not run on my laptop that is running karmic
[16:16] <ScoobyDoo> Dr_Willis: The only other way around is to make the script run itself in the background, Rather then using the /usr/bin/Auto.bash & way
[16:16] <lzrdking> only intrepid and jaunty
[16:16] <ScoobyDoo> IS their a way?
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> ScoobyDoo:  what do you need the script to do exactly? theres several ways to get thoings to auto run..
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> ScoobyDoo:  run on bootup, on login?  befor login?
[16:17] <ScoobyDoo> Ow i see, On login
[16:17] <lzrdking> of course, it could be something else preventing it to run on the karmic laptop, but with no easy way to go back to jaunty, i don't want to upgrade
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> ScoobyDoo:  gnome has a 'startup' list of apps to startup. add the script to the list.
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> !startup
[16:18] <ScoobyDoo> Dr_willis Need to be able to do it via terminal
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> ScoobyDoo:  then alter your .bashrc is one way.
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> or .bash_profile
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> make it run in there
[16:19] <ScoobyDoo> Dr_willis: Basically I'm making some software, That hopefully makes a script run upon log in
[16:19] <lzrdking> om26er: does karmic revamp the BT subsystem?
[16:19] <papul> what do i have to install to try out fluxbox?
[16:19] <brendan`> fluxbox
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> ScoobyDoo:  when a user logins to the terminal, .bash_profile  (or .profile) and .bashrc are ran automatically
[16:20] <aoupi0> helol, I ran grub-install on /dev/sdb5 instead of /dev/sdb what do I do?
[16:20] <thiebaude> papul, sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[16:20] <papul> and the entry will appear in gdm?
[16:20] <thiebaude> yes
[16:20] <om26er> lzrdking: i think the new BT stacks were not pushed on karmic due to some stability issues so no big changes from jaunty
[16:21] <papul> thiebaude, thx for d help :-)
[16:21] <lorenzo_> hi, can i use the skype chat in empathy the way i used to do it in pidgin with the skype-API plugin? thanks
[16:21] <lonejack> Hi I taken a look to this article https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PHPEclipse does somebody know if the instructions mentioned are correct? thx
[16:21] <thiebaude> papul, np, i used fluxbox, but i had used openbox for a long time
[16:22] <lzrdking> om26er: so going to karmic won't change much
[16:22] <papul> thiebaude, do u know any other wm?
[16:22] <thiebaude> !wm
[16:22] <papul> thiebaude, which one do u prefer?
[16:22] <perlsyntax> Has anyone try a MC760 modem with ubuntu 9.10
[16:22] <thiebaude> openbox
[16:22] <perlsyntax> usb
[16:22] <om26er> lzrdking: but i think it would work.
[16:22] <lzrdking> modem?
[16:22] <perlsyntax> yes
[16:22]  * om26er says just an instinct
[16:22] <perlsyntax> it for virgin modile
[16:22] <thiebaude> !windowmanagers
[16:22] <lzrdking> om26er:  but my app won't work, so it looks like my answer is to stay with windows
[16:23] <perlsyntax> i read there a bug on ubuntu 9.10
[16:23] <om26er> lzrdking: which app don't work?
[16:23] <thiebaude> papul, there are many more wm's
[16:23] <lzrdking> om26er: boxee
[16:23] <perlsyntax> lzrdking, yep i try to make sure the bug thing i read online not true or they find it
[16:23] <papul> thiebaude, y do u prefer openbox?
[16:24] <lzrdking> perlmodem as in dial-up?
[16:24] <thiebaude> papul, i just love the way it is
[16:24] <lzrdking> errm
[16:24] <lzrdking> perlsyntax: modem as in dial-up?
[16:25] <perlsyntax> no it not dilaup it a mmodile dsl wireless.
[16:25] <aoupi0> once more: I ran sudo grub-install /dev/sdb5 instead of on /dev/sdb, then I ran it on /dev/sdb
[16:25] <papul> thiebaude, i use fluxbox coz it has a panel
[16:25] <aoupi0> /dev/sdb5 is my root partition, have I ruined it?
[16:25] <aoupi0> do I need to backup before reboot or can I fix it? or is it not broken?
[16:25] <aoupi0> (the partition is mounted now)
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> aoupi0:  you installed grub to the boot record of sdb5 and sdb  - shouldent matter.
[16:25] <perlsyntax> did ubuntu 9.10 update there networkmanger?
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> aoupi0:  theres cases where you would want it on sdb5 but proberly not in your case
[16:26] <aoupi0> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks, so the partition isn't ruined and will still mount properly aftetr reboot?
[16:26] <amar> my web cam is not working !
[16:26] <Rui> Ubuntu doesn't cache dns'?
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> aoupi0:  grub writes to the boot record of the drives - it should never 'ruin' anything. other then perhaps the bootloader
[16:26] <piojunbabia> can a gnome be modified by a user?
[16:26] <amar> plz help
[16:26] <perlsyntax> lzrdking, this what i talking about
[16:26] <aoupi0> Dr_Willis: but does partition have such a boot record?
[16:26] <perlsyntax> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475914
[16:27] <aoupi0> Dr_Willis: I'm thinking it just went a head and ruined some info on the partition
[16:27] <thiebaude> piojunbabia, how do you mean modify?
[16:27] <wtt> seeeee yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:27] <perlsyntax> any ideas?
[16:28] <xuwang> no
[16:28] <aoupi0> Dr_Willis: are you fairly certain I can still mount the partition later? I really don't want to loose all data
[16:28] <om26er> this line is commented in grub config i want to disable it funtion.
[16:28] <om26er> If there's a filesystem UUID that GRUB is capable of identifying, use it
[16:29] <freeride1> hello everyone, how do i block 80 port??
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> aoupi0:  ive never had anything ive done with grub vcause mme to make a partition unmountable
[16:29] <Flare-Laptop> freeride1: Do you have apache installed?
[16:29] <piojunbabia> !ping
[16:29] <freeride1> yes
[16:29] <piojunbabia> am i online?
[16:29] <piojunbabia> !pingme
[16:30] <Flare-Laptop> freeride1: That's why its open then, apache opens port 80
[16:30] <Flare-Laptop> piojunbabia: Well yeah you are
[16:30] <maco> piojunbabia: yes. you did this the other day too. doesnt the fact that ubottu responded to !ping tell you anything at all?
[16:30] <Sacho> is there a text editor installed in ubuntu that can easily convert from one encoding to another, similar to notepad++?
[16:30] <perlsyntax> anyone know?
[16:30] <freeride1> Flare-Laptop: well, I know, that's why i want to block it
[16:30] <Flare-Laptop> Sacho: Gedit does that
[16:30] <Flare-Laptop> freeride1: Then uninstall apache
[16:30] <freeride1> or is it better to stop apache??
[16:31] <Flare-Laptop> freeride1: either way works.
[16:31] <ayeizajedi> hi everyone, having issue with a ATI graphics, i tried to install the glfrx driver and since ive not been able to log in (decals and keyboard not working).  how can i revert back to the stock ATI driver?
[16:31] <AndyGraybeal> hey guys, what's the best way to get a dell 2335dn printer to work with ubuntu?
[16:31] <freeride1> ok, thanks, i'm not a quick thinker))
[16:31] <aaron11_> Can someone give me tips on how to make your computer start
[16:31] <aaron11_> faster
[16:31] <grawity> Sacho: Encoding... try the 'iconv' command -- iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8 < file.old > file.new
[16:32] <lgc> How can I get rid of all the old kernel entries in GRUB?
[16:32] <piojunbabia> maco, it seems there is problem with my connection because i recieved all the messages all at the same time and later than expected
[16:32] <Flare-Laptop> lgc: Remove them on the package manager
[16:32] <Slart> lgc: remove the kernels using synaptic
[16:32] <ayeizajedi> lgc edit them out of grub.lst?
[16:32] <maco> piojunbabia: that's called latency
[16:32] <guntbert> ayeizajedi: not a good idea
[16:32] <piojunbabia> yes maybe
[16:32] <betmens> http://www.melissa-weber.de.vu/?id=6468e0
[16:33] <betmens> http://www.melissa-weber.de.vu/?id=6468e0
[16:33] <piojunbabia> maco i thiought i got disconnected
[16:33] <Slart> ayeizajedi: that will just work until something edits the grub config and runs update-grub.. then they will be back again.. better to change the grub settings.. that should stick
[16:33] <lgc> Flare-Laptop, Slart, I did so, but according to the start-up options there are many more kernels I couldn't get rid of with Synaptic.
[16:33] <guntbert> betmens: no announcements here!
[16:33] <alessandro_> Buonasera a tutti
[16:34] <ayeizajedi> anyone know how to revert from glfx back to ATI driver?  i cant log into ubuntu at moment
[16:34] <Sacho> grawity: awesome
[16:34] <IdleOne> !it | alessandro_
[16:34] <grawity> Sacho: Btw, may I suggest to only use UTF-8 if possible? Creates a lot less problems in the future.
[16:34] <lgc> ayeizajedi, and how do I get rid of them for good? I kind of remember there's some special instruction (not just apt-get remove) to get rid of old kernels.
[16:34] <piojunbabia> !ph
[16:34] <Slart> lgc: have a look at synaptic.. check the "not installed (residual config)" see if you have any kernels there
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  ive only used the apt-get system to remove them. nothing special
[16:35] <Slart> lgc: it's in the "Status" tab
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  the 'computer janitor' might let you remove them also
[16:35] <marks256> can i setup a machine that will only allow users on the other end of the machine to download/upload at a set rate? For example, if i had a 15MB/s internet connection, but only wanted half of my users to be allowed 5MB/s, how would i do that? i believe it is called QoS (Quality of Service)
[16:35] <OldFarter> ho
[16:35] <lgc> Slart, Dr_Willis, thanks.
[16:35] <Sacho> grawity: the file is not mine ;) a lot of my windows colleagues use windows-1251 for their data, so I need something to convert it to utf8
[16:35] <lgc> Slart, you mean within Synaptic?
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> marks256:  download via ftp? ssh? http?
[16:36] <Slart> lgc: also make sure you run "sudo update-grub" or "sudo update-grub2". That will check which kernels you have and update the list accordingly
[16:36] <pako> How do I run a specific command every time I reboot or shutdown ? I've tried with an rc0.d script but it doesn't work
[16:36] <Slart> lgc: yes
[16:36] <chrisw> what's the latest and next LTS versions?
[16:36] <marks256> Dr_Willis, all three
[16:36] <Slart> lgc: there are buttons for "Sections", "Status", "Origin" and so on on the bottom left.. press "Status"
[16:36] <CShadowRun> marks256: that's called throttling, QoS is different :)
[16:36] <Slart> !lts | chrisw
[16:36] <lgc> Slart, that might be precisely what I've been looking for.
[16:36] <epinky> pako: /etc/rc.local
[16:36] <OldFarter> I forgot the password on a computer i set up some time ago for a relative (no login for user)
[16:36] <marks256> CShadowRun, ooo ok. i'll google that quick
[16:36] <CShadowRun> marks256: dunno how you'd do it though, good luck
[16:36] <pako> thanks epinky just a moment
[16:37] <Slart> OldFarter: boot into the recovery mode.. set a new password using "passwd"
[16:37] <Slart> OldFarter: I think it's "passwd <username>" to set the password for a specific user
[16:37] <perlsyntax> Has anyoneuse virgin modile dsl wireless?
[16:37] <OldFarter> Slart: so i dont have to boot from a disk or usb?
[16:38] <pako> epinky by curiosity the rc0-rc6 script aren't used anymode ?
[16:38] <betmens> http://www.melissa-weber.de.vu/?id=6468e0
[16:38] <betmens> http://www.melissa-weber.de.vu/?id=6468e0
[16:38] <ayeizajedi> any howto's on changing ati drivers?
[16:38] <FloodBot1> betmens: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:38] <aaron11_> Can someone give me tips on how to make your computer start faster?
[16:38] <littlegreen> Hey guys... I'm having some trouble with my HP Laserjet 4050N... It has 2 paper trays but always attempts to print from the first one... there's no "Tray" options in the Printer's properties to choose from... could someone suggest me where to look?
[16:39] <epinky> pako: they can be used, however that file is used for placing customized commands as in your case :)
[16:39] <OldFarter> aaron11, latest buntu on ssd disk?
[16:39] <pako> ok thanks epinky
[16:40] <epinky> pako: np
[16:40] <OldFarter> and if speed is everything and features and fancy stuff ait all that important try slax
[16:40] <piojunbabia> hi, is it possible to upgrade my gnome from 2.12 to 2.28?
[16:41] <lifestream> Hi, isn't there a GUI for setting up Grub? I forgot what it's called.
[16:41] <ayeizajedi> is there a quick easy method of removing the fglrx driver and reinstalling the stock ATI driver? ANYONE ???
[16:41] <cepheus> How do I remove a service from the startup, as in I don't want init to start tor, how do I stop it from doing so?
[16:41] <con6_> hello guys. i have some question here. if windows we use cccleaner to clean up everything but in ubuntu what should i use to clean up cookies?
[16:42] <epinky> cepheus: I think there's a service manager for that in Gnome, however I use "rcconf" , it's not installed by default
[16:42] <lgc> Slart, according to update-grub, I have kernels ranging from 2.6.27.11 thru 17. According to Synaptic, I only have 2.6.27.17. What gives?
[16:43] <petsounds> con6_ : cookies in firefox?
[16:43] <Rajasun> piojunbabia: hmmm GNOME 2.12? which version of Ubuntu are you using? Breezy?
[16:43] <ubunewb> Hi, I accidently removed the battery, wifi and bluetooth notifier on the top panel and can't get it back!
[16:43] <Slart> lgc: no idea... not sure what might be the problem
[16:43] <piojunbabia> Rajasun: yes breezy
[16:43] <cepheus> ty epinky I'll grab that
[16:43] <piojunbabia> Rajasun:  is it possible?
[16:43] <lgc> Slart, let me try computer-janitor.
[16:43] <ayeizajedi> is there a quick easy method of removing the fglrx driver and reinstalling the stock ATI driver? ANYONE ???
[16:44] <epinky> !reset-panel | ubunewb
[16:44] <con6_> petsound: yes
[16:44] <Rajasun> piojunbabia: You'll have to upgrade to Karmic. There are upgrade instructions on www.ubuntu.com.
[16:45] <Pici> piojunbabia: Breezy is extremely old. You are better off backing up your data and installing a newer version from scratch.
[16:45] <petsounds> con6_ : you can delete the cookies from within firefox
[16:45] <epinky> !resetpanel | ubunewb
[16:45] <piojunbabia> Rajasun:  ok but i cant do it at the moment,,, maybe tomorrow hopefully
[16:45] <Rajasun> piojunbabia: It's better for you to just install karmic...much less hassle
[16:45] <con6_> petsounds: yes
[16:45] <ratbert> ok sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o and???
[16:45] <lifestream> Why is my grub so slow? It's installed on external hard drive... it takes forever to bring up the grub menu
[16:45] <petsounds> !resetpanels
[16:45] <Rajasun> piojunbabia: k
[16:45] <rymo> my mouse, keyboard, and external hard drive work fine but `lsusb` shows nothing. tried `sudo lsusb`, same thing. `lsusb -t` gets me a little farther before it hangs.  running Karmic, upgraded from Jaunty.  any thoughts?
[16:45] <con6_> petsounds: just delete from firefox file?
[16:45] <ubunewb> Thanks epinky :)
[16:46] <piojunbabia> Rajasun:  thanks
[16:46] <skel> I'm having a difficult time getting mod_auth_external / pwauth working with apache2. Has anyone gotten this working? I get: [Tue Dec 08 10:42:01 2009] [error] [client 10.1.5.13] Invalid AuthExternal keyword (pwauth)
[16:47] <skel> I switched to mod_auth_external because apparently libpam for apache doesn't exist anymore
[16:47] <rymo> /proc/bus/usb appears empty - is this expected?
[16:47] <petsounds> con6_ : navigate to edit/preferences/privacy you can delete the cookies from there
[16:48] <chrisw> any canonical bods here? I'm trying to figure out what commercial support option I need...
[16:48] <dylan__> Bonjour
[16:48] <ratbert> can some body help me how to mount a dvd? i have the error no medium found on /dev/sr0
[16:48] <ratbert> salut dylan__
[16:48] <jove> does anyone know how to launch "itunes" or "itouch" in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[16:48] <dylan__> Euh
[16:48] <ayeizajedi>  i performed an update and installed the fglrx drivers when the stock ATI drivers where installed and since then im not able to log into ubuntu, is there a way of reverting back to the ATI drivers from the console?
[16:48] <dylan__> y'a des français ici en fait ?
[16:49] <guntbert> skel: maybe #httpd will give you more help
[16:49] <con6_> petsounds: tanx
[16:49] <ratbert> dylan__,  non ici est pour anglais
[16:49] <guntbert> !fr | dylan__
[16:49] <ryann> anyone familiar with the steps necessary to enable the b43 broadcom chipsets in karmic?
[16:49] <petsounds> con6_ : np
[16:49] <skel> guntbert: thanks, I'll give it a shot
[16:49] <dylan__> Okay Thank you
[16:49] <ryann> oh.. nevermind :)
[16:49] <guntbert> skel: Good luck :-)
[16:49] <mgv1> how can i make an webpage to only show pictures and not text at dating sites?
[16:49] <hedkandi> hello I have a problem with grub
[16:49] <hedkandi> http://pastebin.com/d1b5dc56b
[16:49] <ratbert> can some body help me how to mount a dvd? i have the error no medium found on /dev/sr0
[16:50] <hedkandi> on karmic that is
[16:50] <guntbert> mgv1: are you talking about settings in the client or in the server?
[16:50] <epinky> ratbert: post results of "sudo lshw -C disk"  , use pastebin
[16:50] <marks256> CShadowRun, it looks as if i can do it through IP tables
[16:50] <mgv1> guntbert, client
[16:50] <ranjan> hello every body can any body over here on this network can tell me which is the best soft ware to share screen from ubuntu with different os .. i mean to say different platforms
[16:51] <hedkandi> got to go!
[16:51] <guntbert> !details | hedkandi
[16:51] <rymo> is `lsusb` broken? is there something else I should be using under Karmic?
[16:51] <sunrider> rymo, like root `lsusb`
[16:51] <hedkandi> guntbert, what is your point?
[16:51] <sunrider> dont run it without root, etc
[16:52] <ranjan> hello every body can any body over here on this network can tell me which is the best soft ware to share screen from ubuntu with different os .. i mean to say different platforms well i am awear of vnc but i dont want to go with that ..
[16:52] <rymo> sunrider: `sudo lsusb` doesn't do anything either
[16:52] <hedkandi> got to go!
[16:52] <sunrider> rymo, well why is that! ;)
[16:52] <haven489> hey all
[16:52] <ratbert> epinky, http://pastebin.com/m6bca6e03
[16:52] <rymo> i dunno! i don't think the Karmic upgrade went very well
[16:54] <epinky> ratbert: is any DVD inside the drive? , lshw does not report "ready"
[16:55] <ratbert> epinky,  no nothing i can mount cd but not dvd
[16:55] <haven489> having troubles, anyone know if you install ubuntu onto a external hard drive can you boot from any computer? or just the computer you used to install the OS?
[16:55] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:55] <maco> haven489: itll boot, but how well itll work will depend on hardware's ability to be autodetected
[16:55] <maco> haven489: so, for example, you may not have sound
[16:55] <epinky> ratbert: put a DVD  inside the drive
[16:56] <ratbert> ok epinky  and retry?
[16:56] <amar> I am using ubuntu in sony vaio And it does not detect camera.
[16:56] <epinky> ratbert: sudo mount -a
[16:56] <haven489> maco; i see but i can loose sound. So i can just choose it to boot from USB device? thats what my externall is, or hdd drive?
[16:56] <maco> haven489: yep
[16:56] <haven489> maco; ty
[16:57] <om26er> whenever i reboot my system sound is muted
[16:57] <ayeizajedi>  i performed an update and installed the fglrx drivers when the stock ATI drivers where installed and since then im not able to log into ubuntu, is there a way of reverting back to the ATI drivers from the console?
[16:58] <haven489> maco: i have to do a project for a class i am taking for linux as a finale project, have anything that would be good or uniqe?
[16:58] <haven489> !201.302.0.1
[16:59] <ratbert> epinky,  nothing just a auto run of the movie
[16:59] <amar> I know its usb camera.
[16:59] <amar> plz help
[17:00] <haven489> amar: what do you need help with?
[17:00] <mgv1> guntbert, client
[17:00] <ratbert> epinky,  would it help if i show you the error from gmounter :)
[17:00] <abhi__> hi
[17:00] <epinky> ratbert: absolutely
[17:01] <apparle> I have one IDE with (XP,Win7,Kubuntu) and SATA with all data............ getting very slow boot up..
[17:01] <epinky> ratbert: what you want to do? "auto run of the movie" means it's already mounted
[17:01] <dalton2345> hello
[17:01] <quit> Hey - I need some help. I'm trying to make a bootable USB to install UNR - I downloaded the ISO, mounted it, opened USB-creator and checked everything was ok - Both the flash drive and the ISO file were being read right, however, the "Make startup disk" button remains grey
[17:01] <Alfredo> hello
[17:01] <haven489> apparle: you have to much data or your dirves are full, your computer runs through everything to find drivers and such, so it takes a while...
[17:02] <maxagaz> how to stop NetworkManager on karmic ?
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> quit:  mounted the iso? why did you do that?
[17:02] <dalton2345> anyone know how to open evolution without seeing the mails
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> quit:  you may need to run the usb-creator tool as root.. i was thinking it asked for the sudo password.
[17:02] <quit> Dr_Willis: I'm doing this from a WinXP machine.
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> quit:  use unetbootin then.  is my advice
[17:03] <sammy> I see that apt-listchanges shows me the changelog for possibly updated packages *after* I agree to update them. is there a way to view the changelogs of the possible package updates *before* accepting the update? (from the console?)
[17:03] <Jayce> anybody running wicd in *buntu? I'm trying to connect to my WPA2 network but it requires me to enable encryption - uh, okay. B ut I dont see that option anywhere?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> quit:  or any of the dozen guides at  thje pendrivelinux.com site
[17:03] <apparle> haven489: my kubuntu parition has 8GB free..., Win7 partition has 10GB , XP has 4GB free.........80GB HDD and the other one (data) is almost empty 1TB
[17:04] <rymo> why would `sudo lsusb` show nothing with 3 working (and one not-working) USB devices plugged in??
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> apparle:  im thinking win7 will fill up 10gb .. real real fast...
[17:04] <Alfredo> :]
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> oh wait - youmeant 10gb free....
[17:04] <haven489> apparle: yes that is cutting it close, your computer will start to act erraticly if you dont do something about space...
[17:04] <apparle> Dr_Willis: that's the free space on it.. not the total size
[17:04] <Jayce> oh wow I suck
[17:04] <Jayce> I just figured it out
[17:04] <Jayce> gotta hit the little arrow next to the wifi network name, and advanced settings - then put the key in
[17:05] <abhi__> hi need some help with internal mic(not working) of dell stupid 1435, lspci -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/337406/
[17:05] <DexterLB> hi. is there any way to make openoffice.org not edit 08 AM to 08:00:00!?
[17:05] <abhi__> the external mics are working, but not the internal mics
[17:05] <DexterLB> sorry for my tone, I'm just angry with it
[17:06] <apparle> haven489: 8GB free is cutting close?
[17:06] <haven489> apparle: whats your prosseser?
[17:06] <abhi__> hi need some help with internal mic(not working) of dell studio 1435, lspci -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/337406/ (typo earlier)
[17:06] <DexterLB> sorry
[17:07] <hedkandi> back again!
[17:07] <apparle> haven489: Pentium D 2.8GHz
[17:07] <abhi__> abhi1
[17:07] <abhi1> abhi__:
[17:07] <hedkandi> http://pastebin.com/d1b5dc56b
[17:07] <hedkandi> about grub
[17:07] <sint> does anyone else having issues running a vm in 9.10? one of my cores runs at 100% all the time and i don't know how to fix this. it happens in vmware and vbox as well
[17:07] <DexterLB> so, openoffice edits 8 am to 08:00:00 etc as soon as I type it, and I want it to stay 8 am. What should I do?
[17:07] <apparle> haven489: and other drive (1TB) is almost empty
[17:07] <rymo> /proc/bus/usb is empty and lsusb outputs nothing - wtf?
[17:08] <haven489> apparle: yes that is cutting it close, your windows 7  will start to have driver errrors like "your display driver has stopped working and has recovered"
[17:08] <lirk13> hello?
[17:08] <xD> lirk13: hi
[17:08] <ayeizajedi> is it me your looking for ?
[17:08] <piojunbabia> hi
[17:08] <lirk13> Can u help me with a Windows 7 and Ubuntu 9.10 dual; boot?
[17:08]  * ayeizajedi stops singing lionel richie
[17:09] <lirk13> Can u help me with a Windows 7 and Ubuntu 9.10 dual; boot?
[17:09] <piojunbabia> link13: i cant
[17:09] <apparle> haven489: so how much free space should I have on each partition ... already 22 out of 80 GB is free
[17:09] <Guest43519> hello, anybody here with an intel i845GE videochipset? I have bad  performance in X. OS is kubuntu karmic
[17:09] <MaT-dg1> I'm using X11 forwarding to other machines. It works but I wonder if it's possible to forward existing windows instead of creating a new process
[17:10] <apparle> haven489: And I don't give a damn about Win7 coz I don't use it. I am concerned with bootup speed kubuntu/ubuntu
[17:10] <dalton2345> is it possible to open evolution without seeing my mails, cause others using my pc
[17:10] <haven489> each partition has its own recomendation (linux wont care about space) windows 7 should have 10GB free at all times, XP is less but i dont know what it is.
[17:10] <rymo> i always thought linux != windows, but it looks like i'm going to have to reinstall this @#%% ubuntu. what a waste.
[17:10] <lirk13> CAN ANYONE HELP WITH A WINDOWS 7 AND UBUNTU 9.10 DUAL BOOT
[17:10] <lirk13> CAN ANYONE HELP WITH A WINDOWS 7 AND UBUNTU 9.10 DUAL BOOT
[17:10] <epinky> !caps | lirk13
[17:11] <coreGrl> hi
[17:11] <epinky> !#ubuntu | lirk13
[17:11] <usamahashimi> Hi
[17:11] <usamahashimi> does kernel modesetting support exists in ubuntu 9.10?
[17:11] <coreGrl> I've karmic and I've a onboard wifi card and an external usb wifi card on a notebook, how can I make ubuntu use just the external one?
[17:11] <Guest43519> hello, anybody here with an intel i845GE videochipset? I have bad  performance in X. OS is kubuntu karmic
[17:11] <NuuBuntu> I need someone to walk me through installing a Linksys wireless adapter card.
[17:12] <Slart> lirk13: you might want to explain your specific problems instead of just asking for help
[17:12] <prathap> where can i find my ssh public key ?
[17:12] <Rajasun> usamahashimi: does kernel 2.6.31 support KMS?
[17:12] <Slart> Guest43519: there were some intel problems a while ago.. I think everything is fixed now though
[17:12] <Slart> !intel | Guest43519
[17:12] <^workman^> prathap: $HOME/.ssh
[17:13] <usamahashimi> Rajasun: no idea, i am also asking here about modesetting :)
[17:13] <Guest43519> i've already read these articles. any other ideas, example xorg.conf?
[17:14] <stmiller> whoa a ton of people on many channels just got disconnected
[17:14] <sonne> it's called netsplit
[17:14] <Seb1> Hi, I have a problem with my computer. After the last update of the kernel, I have no sound and I was wondering if one of you guys could help me.
[17:14] <Slart> stmiller: sounds like a netsplit
[17:15] <Slart> !netsplit | stmiller
[17:15] <sonne> Seb1, does it still work on the old kernel?
[17:15] <stmiller> ok cool
[17:15] <Seb1> no :(
[17:15] <sonne> then it doesn't seem like a kernel issue
[17:15] <sonne> how do you know it doesn't work?
[17:16] <Seb1> sonne, bah because I can't hear any sound coming through the speakers
[17:17] <haven489> Is there a ubuntu off topic chat??
[17:17] <sonne> Seb1, have you checked everything?
[17:17] <sonne> such as volume
[17:17] <Rajasun> haven489: #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:17] <haven489> Rajasun: ty
[17:17] <Rajasun> haven489: np
[17:18] <Seb1> yes, I also removed pulseaudio and nothing
[17:18] <Seb1> I checked alsa and so on,  but nothing
[17:18] <ardchoille> Is the google chrome browser available in the Karmic repos? I can't figure out how to install it.
[17:19] <Rajasun> ardchoille: http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel
[17:19] <ubunewb> What would happen if I installed a package that is meant for jaunty on karmic?
[17:19] <sonne> Seb1, is the volume high already, or you can't access it at all?
[17:19] <NuuBuntu> Ubuntu will not recognize my Linksys WUSB54GC wireless USB adapter.
[17:19] <Slart> ardchoille: I'm not sure if it is.. I think I had to add some special repository to get it
[17:19] <^workman^> ardchoille: you need the PPA I believe, you can do a google search for it
[17:19] <erUSUL> !ppa | ardchoille it is in a
[17:19] <Slart> ardchoille: and that's not google chrome.. it's chromium . I'm not sure if google chrome for linux is out yet
[17:20] <Seb1> Sonne, I can access the controls but nothing come out
[17:20] <Rajasun> ardchoille: deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main deb
[17:20] <__Trullo> http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/w00t.html
[17:20] <Rajasun> it's Google Chrome alright
[17:20] <ubunewb> What would happen if I installed a package that is meant for jaunty on karmic?
[17:21] <sonne> Seb1, nothing come out?
[17:21] <ardchoille> Thanks all
[17:21] <sonne> have you checked the switches too?
[17:21] <ardchoille> erUSUL: Nice.. bookmarked :)
[17:21] <Rajasun> ardchoille: np
[17:21] <__Trullo> http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?hl=en&brand=CHFK&platform=linux_ubuntu_i386
[17:22] <sonne> i found that most of the times it's some master switch turned off by who-knows-what
[17:22] <NuuBuntu> How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my WUSB54GC Linksys wireless USB adapter?
[17:22] <__Trullo> that's the correct link
[17:22] <sonne> i hope that helps, cause i need to eat now :P
[17:22] <Seb1> no, nothing
[17:22] <sonne> later :)
[17:22] <Seb1> later, thx for your gelp
[17:22] <Seb1> help
[17:22] <nazzzux> Does anyone know why i can't open my Synaptic Package Manager? I get this error messag: E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[17:22] <nazzzux> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[17:23] <sipior> ubunewb: depends on the package. probably fine, might fail horribly, not supported either way :-)
[17:23] <Slart> ardchoille: also have a look here.. http://www.chromium.org/
[17:23] <The> hello! how can i chose in what directory i want wget to download the file?
[17:23] <apparle> nazzzux: open terminal and use 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[17:23] <ardchoille> Slart: Thanks
[17:23] <Slart> The: isn't there a switch for that? -o perhaps?
[17:23] <nazzzux> apparle: Will try that
[17:24] <bridger> (apologies, I got disconnected)
[17:24] <Slart> The: man wget will give you more info that you'll know what to do with =)
[17:24] <apparle> The: I think you should read the manpage of wget.. or website
[17:24] <bridger>  Question:  How would one set Emerald/Compiz as their default window manager, without running a script to replace the default at each startup?
[17:24] <The> i couldn't find anything...
[17:25] <dalton2345> is there a way to hide ur mails when u open evolution...cause anyone can see my mails...very annoying
[17:25] <nazzzux> apparle: It sait the same thing about the adobe-flashplugin packet.
[17:25] <fastputty> hello how can i count the line in text file from all directory including sub-directory etc??
[17:25] <fastputty> i used wc-l * but it does only on the curent directory
[17:25] <^workman^> The: try wget -P /yourpath http://some.url.com
[17:25] <pharming> Hi... I am new to ubuntu, i installed ccsm, i had the cume working fine. then under "appearances" i changed the theme, and now my cube dosn't work at all, and under "visual effects," it wont let me enable "extra." does anyone have any suggestions??
[17:25] <MrSnakeOil> Hello good people. Ive just installed a fresh Unbuntu 9.10 on an iMac 7,1 yet there is no sound. lspci reports: 'Audio device: Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)' , the volume controls are all the way up lsmod shows drivers installed for it. I've also vi'd alsa-base and added 'options snd-hda-inten model=imac24'. I'm afraid I've not progressed it. Is there anything else I should try?
[17:26] <llutz> The: man wget
[17:26] <paissad-acer> how can i make this error not come back agagin ?
[17:26] <paissad-acer> http://pastebin.fr/6222
[17:26] <Eremite> My SD card reader doesn't mount since I installed Karmic.  HELP?
[17:26] <L0rdAjax> hello all im having problem booting to Ubuntu after latest kernel update i googled but they say problem can be solved only by using old -14 kernel
[17:26] <^workman^> The: I found a url that explains in wasn't hard. google'd wget http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/manual/wget.html#Examples
[17:26] <IdleOne> apparle: the other day jrib told me about adding exit 0 to a prerm file that solves that adobe issue, I forget the path to the file though
[17:27] <NuuBuntu> How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my WUSB54GC Linksys wireless USB adapter?
[17:27] <The> if i type "wget -p /home/adi http://gluon.srw.ro/flood" works! Thank you
[17:27] <sint> Eremite: is it in /media?
[17:27] <The> :)
[17:27] <L0rdAjax> hello all im having problem booting to Ubuntu after latest kernel update i googled but they say problem can be solved only by using old -14 kernel. Is it true or is there a solution ?
[17:27] <^workman^> The: np
[17:27] <The> what does np mean?
[17:27] <sint> no problem...
[17:27] <Eremite> sint: no.
[17:28] <^workman^> The: "np = no problem"
[17:28] <daniel11> np = no problem..
[17:28] <The> oh. Thanks! :)
[17:28] <rob_p> MrSnakeOil: My Ubuntu 8.04 install in a VM on my MacBook does the same... no audio.  You using Parallels or VMware Fusion?
[17:28] <^workman^> The: check out - for more internet slang - http://www.noslang.com/dictionary
[17:28] <MrSnakeOil> rob_p: No matey, it's running Native.
[17:29] <sint> Eremite: is dmesg showing something?
[17:29] <ratbert> can any body help me mount a dvd please
[17:29] <IdleOne> nazzzux: delete /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm then run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. should fix it
[17:29] <^workman^> ratbert: mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[17:29] <apparle> nazzzux: What error do you get
[17:30] <NuuBuntu> How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my WUSB54GC Linksys wireless USB adapter?
[17:30] <^workman^> or sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[17:30] <IdleOne> nazzzux: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/+bug/412944/comments/1
[17:30] <MrSnakeOil> I might just repost that question since we have so many nice people back :)
[17:30] <rob_p> MrSnakeOil: I see.  Well aint that a bugger!  Wish I had a solution for you.  I'll be getting my iMac core I5 this week... 27 inches of pure beauty!  :-)
[17:30] <MrSnakeOil> rob_p: I hate you :) enjoy it tho, it's a lovely piece of hardware!
[17:31] <ratbert> ^workman^, i dont understan can you tell me the command with where i need to put the path of the iso
[17:31] <MrSnakeOil> Here goes  on the repost:
[17:31] <lgc> Slart, computer-janitor doesn't list old kernels since they are not considered "cruft" by it. The trick was to search for the "image" packages and manually remove them. Update-grub now lists the most recent kernel, as I wanted. Thanks.
[17:31] <MrSnakeOil> REPOST following NEtSPLIT: Ive just installed a fresh Unbuntu 9.10 on an iMac 7,1 yet there is no sound. lspci reports: 'Audio device: Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)' , the volume controls are all the way up lsmod shows drivers installed for it. I've also vi'd alsa-base and added 'options snd-hda-inten model=imac24'. I'm afraid I've not progressed it. Is there anything else I should try?
[17:31] <nazzzux> apparle: E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[17:31] <paissad-acer> can someone help me to solve this matter ?
[17:31] <paissad-acer> http://pastebin.fr/6222
[17:31] <daniel11> ....??
[17:31] <paissad-acer> i don't know how to remove psb-kernel-headers
[17:31] <^workman^> ratbert: your mounting an ISO? ok do this. sudo /your/path/file.iso -o loop /where/you/want/to/mount/it
[17:32] <paissad-acer> i trried aptitude remove, dpkg -r & apt-get remove
[17:32] <^workman^> ratbert: your mounting an ISO? ok do this. sudo mount /your/path/file.iso -o loop /where/you/want/to/mount/it
[17:32] <milo_> since i upgraded to ubuntu9.10 my wireless is not working...anyone can help me?
[17:32] <nazzzux> IdleOne: I don't have permission to do that... How do I give me that permission? (Sorry, I'm kind of a newbeginner here.)
[17:33] <^workman^> ratbert: google is your friend. search "linux mount an iso" pulls up first link - http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html
[17:33] <L0rdAjax> hello all im having problem booting to Ubuntu after latest kernel update i googled but they say problem can be solved only by using old -14 kernel. Is it true or is there a solution ?
[17:33] <rob_p> MrSnakeOil: I'm getting excited for its arrival.  Anyway, good luck.  I hope you figure it out.  Shouldn't be too difficult though.  I've just not needed audio from Ubuntu on my MacBook so I haven't spent much time, "fixing" it.
[17:33] <^workman^> L0rdAjax: What error are you getting when booting with the newer kernel? what kernel version are you running?
[17:34] <MrSnakeOil> rob_p: thanks mate, you know a little kindness goes a long way. appriciated.
[17:34] <L0rdAjax> ^workman^ i dont get an error just when in boot selection i select ubuntu it prompts me to Grub:sh
[17:34] <JesusChrist> Hello all.
[17:34] <laeg_> is there anyway to resume an irssi session not running in screen  which is running on a server i've ssh to?
[17:34] <^workman^> L0rdAjax: Hmm, could be that the installer didn't copy over the vmlinuz and initrd?
[17:35] <JesusChrist> Do you belive in god?
[17:35] <^workman^> L0rdAjax: boot your working kernel and look in /boot to see if the new kernel is in fact installed and is not 0 bytes
[17:35] <sj4m35-15> JesusChrist:i don't
[17:35] <^workman^> !ot | JesusChrist
[17:35] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[17:35] <JesusChrist> sj4m35-15 : why not?
[17:35] <sj4m35-15> JesusChrist:god is a supestition
[17:35] <apparle> nazzzux: try 'sudo apt-get purge adobe-flashplugin'
[17:36] <Pici> JesusChrist: This is the Ubuntu support channel, please take this conversation elsewhere.
[17:36] <L0rdAjax> ^workman^ ok i will
[17:36] <perl_cont> hi
[17:36] <JesusChrist> Pici : Ok..
[17:36] <apparle> nazzzux: that will remove adobe-flashplugin
[17:36] <anli_> Is there ubuntu developers in this channel?
[17:36] <^workman^> !dev
[17:36] <^workman^> oops
[17:36] <^workman^> srry
[17:37] <anli_> The display preferences dialot is strange, because I cannot change the size of it, so I cannot press the ok button
[17:37] <anli_> What accelerator key does that button have?
[17:37] <^workman^> Pici: you know what the Dev channel name is? #ubuntu-dev?
[17:37] <sj4m35-15> is there any discussions on UNR (ubuntu netbook remix)? for acer aspire one?
[17:37] <perl_cont> I'll soon find out
[17:38] <fcuk112> i am running ubuntu 9.04, whenever i run screen it stats with byobu at the bottom - how do i completely remove byobu from my system?
[17:38] <milo_> please who can help me with my wireless? since i upgraded to ubunutu 9.10, it's not working properly :(
[17:38] <anli_> Can anyone help me getting the alt-key-combo for "ok" in the display dialog preferences window?
[17:38] <fcuk112> starts
[17:38] <JesusChrist> linuxFTW. bbl
[17:38] <IdleOne> pharming: there is no Go back in time button in Ubuntu
[17:38] <L0rdAjax> ^workman^ i installed ubuntu using wubi and i am a n00b to linux so i tryed the method i found on ubuntu forums but it wont work for me there i get an error
[17:38] <^workman^> sj4m35-15: maybe here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[17:38] <guntbert> anli_: no dev here, but sometimes you can get dialogues to resize by closing them from the second... tab
[17:38] <dAlfa89_> IdleOne, I think he was maybe looking for a restore from LiveCD or something
[17:39] <dAlfa89_> As am I, actually...
[17:39] <^workman^> L0rdAjax: ah, wubi...srry man I don't know anything about wubi..
[17:39] <anli_> would be great if the display preferences window size (especiallt that) adapted to the screen size
[17:39] <leshaste> does Tracker index pdf files?
[17:39] <sj4m35-15> ^workman^: any irc for UNR acer aspire one?
[17:39] <nazzzux> apparlet: It's stll just telling me that the flash-plugin needs to be reinstalled...
[17:39] <nazzzux> asdf
[17:39] <guntbert> fcuk112: you can (inside byobu) F9 to get a menu, there you can deselect "start with login"
[17:39] <^workman^> sj4m35-15: try #onelinux
[17:40] <^workman^> sj4m35-15: try irc.freenode.net
[17:40] <sj4m35-15> ^workman^: kewl...thanx!
[17:40] <L0rdAjax> ^workman^ tnx anyway - do you know at least who can i ask for help ?
[17:40] <^workman^> sj4m35-15: n
[17:40] <^workman^> sj4m35-15: np
[17:40] <dAlfa89_> anli_, you can move the window around by holding alt and click-dragging the window, if that helps
[17:41] <guntbert> dAlfa89_: that doesn't help if the window is too small :-)
[17:41] <^workman^> L0rdAjax, someone in this channel might know.... not sure though.
[17:41] <L0rdAjax> ok
[17:41] <anli_> dAlfa89_: hm, did not work
[17:41] <apparle> nazzzux: did you install that package from adobe website?... and plz tell exact error.... adobe-flashplugin or flash-plugin
[17:41] <anli_> Is there a alt-key-combo for the ok button?
[17:41] <dAlfa89_> guntbert, ah, I assumed it was too big :x
[17:41] <anli_> So I can use the keyboard instead
[17:41] <dAlfa89_> anli_, can you not tab to the button?
[17:42] <hevalbaranov> hello everyone. I've added a path to PATH variable and the path is true. however, shell gives "could not found the directory" error for the path. any ideas?
[17:42] <anli_> dAlfa89_: Hahaha, of course, must try that
[17:42] <anli_> dAlfa89_: stupid :)
[17:42] <MrSnakeOil> Thanks for the helpguys, I might have just solved my problem! Time for a reboot and retest. :)
[17:42] <L0rdAjax> Can someone help me witha problem in booting Ubuntu.I installed it using wubi.
[17:42] <lia> oi
[17:43] <lia> hi
[17:43] <lzrdking> how come jaunty drops my bluetooth connections, and i either need to completely remove the device and re-add it, or sometimes i even need to reboot?  how can i keep my devices connected, or at least make it so they can reconnect consistently?  it happens with my BT mouse and with both sony phones that have a BT remote (apparently only one phone can be connected at a time, but one is better than none!)
[17:43] <lia> hi
[17:43] <guntbert> anli_: you can <tab> through though - apply is immediately after "show displays..."
[17:43] <anli_> Is there a bug reporting system built into ubuntu?
[17:43] <nazzzux> apparlet: I downloaded from adobe's website. Exact error message: "E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I cant' find an archive for it."
[17:43] <pharming> IdleOne: thanks for that insight.... well maybe you will know this. is deleting and reinstalling ubuntu just the same process as deleting windows and installing linux?
[17:43] <lia> hi
[17:43] <hevalbaranov> hello everyone. I've added a path to PATH variable and the path is true. however, shell gives "could not found the directory" error for the path. any ideas?
[17:43] <L0rdAjax> Can someone help me witha problem in booting Ubuntu.I installed it using wubi.
[17:44] <apparle> nazzzux: Goto the website and download and install it again
[17:44] <nazzzux> apparlet: Doesn't work. It says:
[17:44] <ath1s> L0rdAjax, what's the problem?
[17:44] <leshaste> does Tracker index pdf files?
[17:44] <IdleOne> pharming: you can make a separate /home see !home and then reinstall ubuntu
[17:44] <guntbert> !paste | nazzzux
[17:45] <sint> nazzzux: what plugin are you looking for? 32 or 64bit? you can still download the file from adobe.com and put it into firefox plugin folder by hand
[17:45] <IdleOne> nazzzux: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/+bug/412944/comments/1
[17:45] <nazzzux> apparlet: "The package might be corrupted or your are not allowed to open this file. Check the permission of the file."
[17:45] <IdleOne> nazzzux: that has the solution you want
[17:45] <anli_> does not the archive manager in ubuntu support rar files?
[17:45] <nazzzux> IdleOne: Thanks. WIll check that out.
[17:46] <pharming> IdleOne... thanks for answering my question! but can you re-explain that... i don't understand
[17:46] <mcknin> Using Hardy, how do I upgrade from perl 5.8.8 to 5.10?
[17:46] <IdleOne> !home > pharming
[17:46] <zenwryly> I've forgotten the command for shwoing which libraries a binary will use?
[17:47] <fcuk112> i am trying to disable byobu from starting up.  no matter if i select F9 to start upon login or disable this function, byobu still starts up when i start screen.  any way to disable byobu?
[17:47] <nazzzux> IdleOne: Just one thing, How do I give myself the permission to delete the file?
[17:47] <apparle> nazzzux: I think IdleOne's solution is perfect for you
[17:48] <apparle> nazzzux: use sudo before the command
[17:48] <IdleOne> nazzzux: use sudo rm /file/to/remove
[17:48] <nazzzux> Thanks
[17:48] <apparle> nazzzux: use 'sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm'
[17:50] <sj4m35-15> any crunchbang users?
[17:50] <IdleOne> #crunchbang
[17:50] <sj4m35-15> it's based on ubuntu...
[17:51] <IdleOne> still not supported here
[17:51] <sj4m35-15> it's based on ubuntu...
[17:51] <IdleOne> still not supported here
[17:51] <sj4m35-15> dang!!
[17:51] <pharming> IdleOne, ok i see what you are suggesting. Is a seperate home only necessary if the user wants to save their settings. If i just want to totally wipe out everything and start over is this still necessary?
[17:51] <vik> Hello, I have extremely low wireless signal, although I am sitting 5 meter away from wireless router. Is it anyhow fixable (I've scan though forums, but did not find a solution
[17:51] <mcknin> answer to my question = activeperl, for the bots/future ref
[17:51] <nazzzux> IdleOne: I successfully deleted the file, but I still get the same error messages as before.
[17:52] <MaskedDriver> is there an official channel for the lernid project?
[17:52] <Binky1> okay I got ubuntu to install but the screen resolution is small how do I fix?
[17:52] <IdleOne> pharming: in that case pop in the livecd and chose to use the entire drive when you get to the partitiong part of the install
[17:52] <Seveas> MaskedDriver, try #lernid
[17:52] <MaskedDriver> Seveas, negative
[17:52] <MaskedDriver> did that first :)
[17:52] <gg> the desktop won't start after an improper shutdown any suggestions?!
[17:52] <Seveas> MaskedDriver, then try #jonobacon :)
[17:52] <IdleOne> nazzzux: on that bug report there was a couple of different work arounds, keep reading and see if any work for you
[17:52] <MaskedDriver> lol Seveas I doubt he has his own channel :)
[17:53] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[17:53] <Broken> guys anyone know a good screen recorder???
[17:53] <MaskedDriver> Broken, video?
[17:53] <IdleOne> Broken: Recordmydesktop
[17:53] <Binky1> how do i fix screen resolution?
[17:53] <Seveas> Broken, istanbul?
[17:53] <IdleOne> !screencast
[17:53] <MaskedDriver> Broken, XvidCap Screen Capture
[17:53] <Broken> ty
[17:54] <MaskedDriver> XVidCap will record an individual section or the entire screen and when you record, you can record audio at the same time
[17:54] <MaskedDriver> I use it for my screencasts
[17:54] <pharming> IdleOne: ok, thats what i thought. my settings some how got all screwed up and i cant get my cube to work, or any extra visual effects, and i can't figure out how to fix it. so i think that i'm just going to start over.
[17:54] <Broken> thank you i will use that soft..
[17:55] <Binky1> How do I fix screen resolution?!?! I alrdy tried to install driver it doesnt Ive alrdy tried the hight setting
[17:55] <IdleOne> pharming: maybe you need to install your graphics driver again
[17:55] <nyc-h0st_> i can resolve a host via nslookup
[17:55] <nyc-h0st_> but if i ping from command line it wont resolve
[17:56] <nyc-h0st_> what in the world could be the cause
[17:56] <Seveas> nyc-h0st_, nscd?
[17:56] <nazzzux> IdleOne: Thanks alot! It works now.
[17:56] <IdleOne> nazzzux: glad you got it sorted :)
[17:57] <pharming> IdleOne: i wonder why my graphics driver would have started having problems? if you think that that may help, could you walk me through the process?
[17:57] <IdleOne> pharming: what card do you have?
[17:57] <nyc-h0st_> Seveas, nscd?
[17:57] <ratbert> i cant mount a dvd iso what can i do
[17:58] <sj4m35-15> use the mount command
[17:58] <lzrdking> how come jaunty drops my bluetooth connections, and i either need to completely remove the device and re-add it, or sometimes i even need to reboot?  how can i keep my devices connected, or at least make it so they can reconnect consistently?  it happens with my BT mouse and with both sony phones that have a BT remote (apparently only one phone can be connected at a time, but one is better than none!)
[17:58] <Binky1> How do  I fix screen reolution it doesnt go any higher than 800x600
[17:58] <nyc-h0st_> i'm not running nscd so it cant be the cause
[17:58] <kubanc> how do i look in terminal which desktop enviroment i have installed
[17:58] <MaskedDriver> pharming, you need to update your drivers when you install an updated kernel.  I usually just reinstall the drivers, then everything works ok
[17:58] <IdleOne> pharming:  start by trying System > Admin > Hardware Drivers and see if it offers driver if so enable it
[17:58] <MaskedDriver> Binky1, you need to install graphics drivers
[17:58] <sj4m35-15> Binky1: your SOL
[17:59] <Binky1> MaskedDriver, there not graphics card supported for linux
[17:59] <Binky1> on my computer
[17:59] <MaskedDriver> Binky1, what card do you have?
[17:59] <sj4m35-15> Binky1: i believe only ATI and Nvidia are supported
[18:00] <sj4m35-15> correct me if i'm wrong.
[18:00] <IdleOne> sj4m35-15: your partially right sorta kinda
[18:00] <MaskedDriver> sj4m35-15, are there no proprietary intel drivers?  That'd be weird
[18:00] <Binky1> im not sure its a old computer sence my other computer broke Pavilion XH545
[18:00] <sonne> MaskedDriver, no there are not
[18:00] <sonne> MaskedDriver, intel's drivers are free
[18:00] <pharming> IdleOne: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
[18:00] <sj4m35-15> i got a intel gma940
[18:01] <MaskedDriver> gotcha
[18:01] <IdleOne> Binky1: lspci | grep VGA
[18:01] <sj4m35-15> only getting 2d support
[18:01] <IdleOne> pharming:  did you start by trying System > Admin > Hardware Drivers and see if it offers driver if so enable it
[18:01] <sonne> sj4m35-15, maybe there is no 3d support at all - some laptop vga boards are like that
[18:01] <lia> ammonkey hi
[18:02] <sj4m35-15> yeah...
[18:02] <lia> sonne hi
[18:02] <sonne> hey
[18:02] <pharming> it says that "no proprietary drivers are used on this system"
[18:02] <Binky1> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP (rev 63)
[18:02] <sj4m35-15> is there any support for intel gma940 graphics chipsets?
[18:03] <sj4m35-15> i need 3d acceleeration for my gma940 intel graphic card for gaming, is it possible?
[18:03] <ammonkey> hello
[18:04] <sj4m35-15> ammonkey:hello
[18:04] <gg> the desktop won't start after an improper shutdown any suggestions?!
[18:04] <sj4m35-15> i need 3d acceleeration for my gma940 intel graphic card for gaming, is it possible?
[18:04] <IdleOne> pharming: Honestly I am not sure how to help you from here but you can take a look at http://intellinuxgraphics.org/ and ask in #intel-gfx maybe
[18:05] <Binky1> why does my display perf not go up higher? =[ can I add more options?
[18:05] <pharming> IdleOne: ok ill check it out, i appreciate your help!
[18:05] <IdleOne> pharming: no problem
[18:05] <n16h7f0x> how can i check if POSIX shared memory is enabled on the system ?
[18:05] <kubanc> what should be the problem, because i cannot see other partitions and disk, only the partition for kubuntu ?
[18:06] <sj4m35-15> urkki: are you finished?:-)
[18:06] <__Trullo> hmm.. I have alot of kept back upgrades now.. is there some dist-upgrade going on?
[18:07] <Binky1> where is the screen resolutions located?
[18:07] <laetzer> hi all. since going back to "normal" in "visual effects" whenever I hit alt+tab, there is a preview of the windows. how can I revert this? so that I only see the application, no preview, no effects?
[18:08] <sonne> laetzer, are you sure it's on normal?
[18:08] <NuuBuntu> In the guide I am using to install my wireless adapter, it says: "Make sure that /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/ exists! If this directory does not exist, then create it." ... Is that referring to /home/user/lib* or just /lib/*? Where should I be creating or looking for the directory?
[18:08] <kubanc> how do I uninstall KDE 4 from kubuntu?
[18:08] <sonne> it still looks like compiz
[18:08] <sj4m35-15> Binky1:in the preferences>
[18:08] <Binky1> yes i no
[18:08] <Binky1> but it only goes up to 800x600
[18:08] <sonne> NuuBuntu, it's exactly /lib
[18:08] <Binky1> can I add more?
[18:09] <sj4m35-15> Binky1:maybe that's all your monitor can handle?
[18:09] <NuuBuntu> sonne, so if I type  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/ into my navigator bar, it should take me to that folder?
[18:09] <Binky1> I had windows xp be4
[18:09] <sonne> kubanc, it's not that easy
[18:09] <Binky1> it fit the entire screen
[18:09] <sonne> NuuBuntu, not exactly, that's a "terminal" syntax
[18:09] <sonne> you should replace "`uname -r`" with your kernel version
[18:09] <kubanc> sonne, i found a command sudo apt-get purge kdelibs5
[18:09] <sonne> e.g. 2.6.31-generic
[18:10] <GuitarInc1> Last night, I noticed that not all packages are based on i686 architecture.  Is there a plan for eventually removing legacy architectures?
[18:10] <sonne> kubanc, that's a bit radical, but works indeed
[18:10] <sonne> kubanc, that also removes anything even by far related to kde
[18:10] <sj4m35-15> Binky1:i have an old toughbook it can only handle a 800x600 resolution.
[18:10] <sonne> make sure it doesn't remove anything you need
[18:10] <kubanc> sonne, any other suggestion ?
[18:10] <Binky1> is there a .conf file that I can edit?
[18:10] <sonne> kubanc, i'd go that way too
[18:10] <NuuBuntu> sonne, is there a command I can use to check if that folder already exists?
[18:11] <conb123> Is there anything in ubuntu for configuring microphones for some wierd reason my vocie is really high when i use my mic in karmic?
[18:11] <sj4m35-15> Binky1:my acer aspire one can only handle a 1078x600 resolution.
[18:11] <sonne> NuuBuntu, yep, on the terminal
[18:11] <sonne> ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/
[18:11] <sonne> or you can just navigate it on your graphic file manager
[18:12] <sj4m35-15> Binky1:what graphics chipset are you using?
[18:12] <sonne> kubanc, though, before allowing apt to remove everything, i'd write down the names of the packages i don't want to remove, and then reinstall them afterwards
[18:12] <Rajasun> kubanc: it ain't an easy task...had mine purged but 2 days ago...u have really to dive right through the list of installed packages to pick out those with anything to do with kde and qt
[18:12] <NuuBuntu> sonne, it says no such file or directory, how do I create a folder through terminal?
[18:12] <GuitarInc1> Last night, I noticed that not all packages are based on i686 architecture.  Is there a plan for eventually removing legacy architectures (e.g.: i586, i485, i386)?
[18:12] <Binky1> In not sure DX im asking if theres a conf file I can edited to add more resolutions
[18:12] <sj4m35-15> pull up a terminal and type lspci
[18:12] <sonne> NuuBuntu, with mkdir, but outside your home you will need to use sudo
[18:12] <sonne> NuuBuntu, so try this: mkdir /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/
[18:12] <sj4m35-15> look for the graphics card
[18:12] <sonne> erm
[18:12] <sonne> NuuBuntu, so try this: sudo mkdir /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates/
[18:13] <sj4m35-15> Binky1:it all depends on your graphics card
[18:13] <kubanc> sonne, Rajasun, a already started the command sudo apt-get purge kdelibs5. i hope for the best
[18:13] <sponzor> is selinux in ubuntu by default or you have to install it?
[18:14] <NuuBuntu> thank you sonne!
[18:14] <lzrdking> how do i tell ubuntu to use intel video drivers?
[18:14] <sonne> kubanc, you can still scroll up the terminal and copy/pasta the names of the packages it's about to remove onto some text file, and then take a look at them afterwards
[18:14] <sj4m35-15> lzrdking:what chipset are you using?
[18:15] <sj4m35-15> lzrdking:imean drivers?
[18:15] <bluevapour> how do i get the output of run level 2
[18:15] <Oli``> How best can I work out what's using disk space on a remote system? Something like the Disk Usage Analyser but something that can be run over SSH
[18:15] <sj4m35-15> lzrdking:is it the deafault drivers?
[18:15] <llutz> Oli``: du
[18:16] <Rajasun> kubanc: you are likely still to be left with some stuff to do with kde or qt or both. Some aren't that obvious e.g. soprano daemon. You will have to have them purged too if a totally KDE/QT free system is what you want.
[18:16] <walkabouting> I need to install 2 instances of winXP on my ubuntu machine - how do I set up grub to do this?
[18:16] <sj4m35-15> walkabouting:why would you do that?
[18:16] <bluevapour> how do i get runlevel2 startup log
[18:17] <kubanc> Rajasun, my goal is to speed up somehow my computer, because it's old, like 8 years, and right now, kubuntu is working very slow. and right now my desktop enviroment is XFCE
[18:17] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:17] <walkabouting> sj4m35-15: work
[18:17] <sj4m35-15> you mean one for work one for play?
[18:17] <saif_> how can make the channel number variable in the command {iwconfig channel (CH#)}??
[18:17] <sonne> kubanc, if you like extreme methods, you could try DSL
[18:18] <sonne> it's not as comfortable as Ubuntu, but can do its own business pretty good
[18:18] <sj4m35-15> walkabouting:could you just set up another profile in xp?
[18:18] <walkabouting> sj4m35-15: basically
[18:18] <rob_p> bluevapour: startup log is written to /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog.  If you want the kernel buffer then dmesg.
[18:18] <saif_> how can make the channel number variable in the command {iwconfig channel (CH#)}?
[18:18] <Rajasun> kubanc: uf that is what you want, do as you please. By the way, do you also happened to have mono apps isntalled? e.g. tomboy, f-spot, smuxi?
[18:18] <NuuBuntu> Ok, I'm a bit confused here. When I try to run the mkdir command it says the folder or file already exists. When I try to run this command it says no such file or directory. "cp -p /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2870sta.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/updates"
[18:18] <walkabouting> sj4m35-15: no, I need to periodically format windows - it gets bloated in ~3months. its more one for work, one for testing
[18:19] <lzrdking> sj4m35-15: its using the default drivers i believe, its a 945GM
[18:19] <bluevapour> stupid
[18:19] <sj4m35-15> walkabouting:so that when it boots it'll give you an option to either boot into work or play?
[18:19] <kubanc> sonne, is it hard to install DSL ?
[18:19] <lzrdking> hi Oli``
[18:19] <saif_> how can make the channel number variable in the command {iwconfig channel (CH#)}?
[18:19] <walkabouting> sj4m35-15: yes - stable xp, testing xp, or linux
[18:20] <sonne> kubanc, last time i did it it wasn't so hard
[18:20] <o_be_one> hi !
[18:20] <sj4m35-15> walkabouting: how about virtualbox?
[18:20] <grawity> saif_: In a script?
[18:20] <sonne> but i suggest you try it out on some virtual machine if you can, so you get the idea of it
[18:20] <saif_> aha
[18:20] <walkabouting> sj4m35-15: too slow
[18:20] <bluevapour> how do i get runlevel output
[18:20] <aleksandrit> sorry, how to configure the remote connection from ubuntu 9.10 to ubuntu 9.04?
[18:20] <sj4m35-15> walkabouting: what are your system specs?
[18:20] <walkabouting> sj4m35-15: it shouldnt be *that* hard - I could do it in grub, but grub2 is way too confusing
[18:20] <o_be_one> i havent sound in lmms (ubuntu 9.10 with latest lmms). I've sound in ubuntu but not in lmms. I've tryed to install jack but lmms doesnt want to use it (it selects automaticly "dummy") ... Any idea ? :)
[18:20] <sonne> kubanc, i think i installed that distro on a pentium 100 or the likes of it, some time ago
[18:20] <saif_> grawity : the channel number is an output of a file so it will be variable
[18:21] <sj4m35-15> walkabouting: try adding more ram.
[18:21] <grawity> saif_: in 'bash', the variables syntax is $foo -- such as iwconfig channel $channel
[18:21] <Rajasun> kubanc: afterwards, you can try running dpkg -l|grep kde as well as dpkg -l|grep qt to see if you have any left
[18:21] <Nosco> o_be_one, I love your english :D! Two frenchiiies on ubuntu O.O
[18:21] <rob_p> bluevapour: Type, "runlevel" and press enter!
[18:21] <spunk> hello, how "secure" is LUKS compared to TrueCrypt? Any opinions?
[18:21] <lzrdking> i have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed, but how can i verify it is being used and if its not, tell X to use it?
[18:21] <saif_> grawity :does this mean i can do this : export ch=awk '/Channel/ {print $1}' scan.txt
[18:22] <kubanc> Rajasun, i don't have isntalled tomoby, f-spot and smuxi command is unknown
[18:22] <o_be_one> Nosco, we do it how i we can :D
[18:22] <grawity> saif_: ch="$( awk '/Channel/ { print $1 }' scan.txt )"
[18:22] <o_be_one> (how i we can xD ah ah)
[18:22] <Rajasun> kubanc: good
[18:22] <trainer> I just upgraded to 9.10 and now my desktop is black with no icons. Help?
[18:22] <grawity> saif_: To get the command's output, wrap it in $( ). And it's best to put quotes around such things. And no need for 'export'.
[18:23] <Hiram> this morning i updated some 20 packages. everything worked fine before that, now i can't enable the desktop effects any more, like my video drivers just went kablooie.
[18:23] <sj4m35-15> trainer:what's your system specs?
[18:23] <Alan502> Hi :) i cannot correctly play flv on kubuntu amd64. I see the video but the sound is not correct. I have tried with both Dragon Player and Amarok's video clip player and i get the same results. Would you help me?
[18:23] <kubanc> Rajasun, i tried  dpkg -l|grep kde and  dpkg -l|grep qt and i have some stuff
[18:23] <saif_> grawity : so when echo $ch .....it will give the variable value ??
[18:23] <trism> walkabouting: they will likely be detected with the os prober if you run a sudo update-grub, but the problem is XP is going to wipe out grub, you should find most of the info you need here though  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[18:23] <grawity> saif_: yes.
[18:23] <walkabouting> trism:
[18:23] <saif_> grawity : thanx very much
[18:23] <Younder> Hiram, does gdm boot?
[18:23] <nperry> Alan502: Have tried VLC?
[18:23] <walkabouting> trism: thanls
[18:24] <lzrdking> sj4m35-15: do you know what i need to do to verify the intel drivers are in use and how to use them if they are not?
[18:24] <grawity> saif_: Now type 'man bash'
[18:24] <Alan502> nperry, nope but do you think the player might be the problem? should i install vlc or rather kaffeine as i am on kde?
[18:24] <Hiram> Younder: well, it does go into runlevel 5, if that's what you mean.
[18:24] <sponzor> is selinux in ubuntu by default or you have to install it?
[18:24] <Hiram> root      1496     1  0 12:42 ?        00:00:00 gdm-binary
[18:24] <Hiram> root      1568  1496  0 12:42 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gnome/DisplayManager/Display1
[18:24] <Hiram> root      1576  1568  1 12:42 tty7     00:00:35 /usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-dOTJRi/database -nolisten tcp vt7
[18:24] <Hiram> gdm       2143     1  0 12:42 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
[18:24] <Hiram> root      2207  1568  0 12:42 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-session-worker
[18:24] <Hiram> chris     5208  4877  0 13:24 pts/1    00:00:00 grep gdm
[18:24] <sj4m35-15> lzrdking: pull up a terminal and type: "lspci -v | grep vga"
[18:24] <saif_> grawity : is there any thing in the man page i shjould read ??
[18:25] <sj4m35-15> lzrdking: pull up a terminal and type: "lspci -v | grep intel"
[18:25] <manjula> Hi ALl
[18:25] <nperry> Alan502: Pretty sure it might be a codec problem, VLC have all the codecs inbuilt
[18:25] <sj4m35-15> lzrdking: you should see drivers listed
[18:25] <Alan502> nperry, thanks :) i'll try it now
[18:25] <Younder> Hiram, That's not standard for ubuntu, check again (from a console type runlevel)
[18:25] <nperry> Alan502: When nothing else would run it, VLC has never failed me :)
[18:25] <sj4m35-15> VLC RULZ!!
[18:26] <lzrdking> sj4m35-15:  i see kernel driver in use and a few kernel modules, all which reference intel, so it is using them?
[18:26] <Younder> Hiram, not that it matters what runlevel it is. Upstart set's up the gdm
[18:26] <sj4m35-15> lzrdking: yes
[18:26] <Younder> Hiram, see /etc/init/gdm.conf
[18:26] <Rajasun> kubanc: as expected ;) Told you it ain;t so simple
[18:26] <trainer> sj4m35-15: 1680x1050 DVI
[18:27] <sj4m35-15> trainer: any more info?
[18:27] <lzrdking> so it would still use mesa even if its using the intel drivers?
[18:27] <atyson01> can anyone help me with ldap and tls?
[18:27] <sj4m35-15> trainer: mobo, video card..etc..
[18:28] <Younder> Hiram, to boot to text mode, at grup menu type e and on the command line add text
[18:28] <sj4m35-15> laterz ya'll gotta go!
[18:28] <Younder> Hiram, that is 'text'
[18:28] <Rajasun> kubanc: fo through each of the kde/qt packages left behind, use apt-cache depends packagename and apt-cache show packagename if you need to. Your call then if you want them purged as well.
[18:28] <Rajasun> go*
[18:29] <Hiram> that's another problem i've been having today. the networking sometimes just quits.
[18:29] <epinky> atyson01: better ask on #ubuntu-server
[18:29] <atyson01> epinky: Thanks trying to learn irc also been a long time
[18:34] <ty5479> Can anybody help me with setting grub back up after a windows install. I've tried looking it up online. But I am constantly getting an error stating that it can find a list of paritions when running grub-install.
[18:34] <thiebaude> !grub2
[18:35] <pietj1> Hi all, I cannot connect with msn, using both amsn and Pidgin. What could cause this?
[18:35] <lzrdking> bad password?
[18:35] <nperry> pietj1: It *should* give you an error...
[18:36] <pietj1> lzrdking: nope
[18:36] <manjula1> Hi ALL. i have1st  installed ubuntu 9.04 (has ext4 ) and then i installed ubuntu 8.10 on my other patition. now i cant boot in to 9.04 and 8.10 is not able to mount the ext4. i really don't need to mount ext4 from 8.10 but all i want is to be able to boot in to 9.04 again. can someone help me ?
[18:37] <epinky> pietj1: pekan already installed?
[18:37] <pietj1> nperry: using unsupported protocol..
[18:37] <nperry> manjula1: Whats the error message when booting 9.04
[18:37] <nperry> pietj1: Are you running through a proxy :s
[18:38] <pietj1> nperry: nope
[18:38] <JinoFixx> hi, need a german person to help my for a translation.. i pay
[18:38] <Hiram> this morning i updated some 20 packages. everything worked fine before that, now i can't enable the desktop effects any more, like my video drivers just went kablooie.
[18:38] <epinky> !ot | JinoFixx
[18:38] <manjula1> nperry: there is no error messages... only grub dont have the option to boot in to 9.04. i think it because i installed 8.10 later that grub is intalled from 8.10 and to reinstall the grub from 9.04 i cant get in to it
[18:39] <kubanc> Rajasun, is maybe there a possibility that i go into Synaptic package manager, i filter installed packages with "kde" word and then i delete all of this packages
[18:39] <pietj1> nperry: oh never mind, amsn works now, so ill just use that. Thanks for your time
[18:40] <Rajasun> kibanc: when it comes to package management, I trust only console tools...sorry :P
[18:40] <\\`00t> Hi - if anyone has ANY clue how to get audio+video (together) over an HDMI output, please let me know ... I'm getting video-only!!
[18:41] <Rajasun> kubanc*
[18:41] <nperry> manjula1: run 'sudo update-grub' from the 8.10, it should then update with the 9.04 lines
[18:41] <erUSUL> !puregnome
[18:42] <chris_> anyone using a soundblaster x-fi go usb stick with any success?
[18:43] <Rajasun> you may still be left with a few residual packages e.g. those soprano ones
[18:43] <kubanc> ubottu, do i need to install ubuntu-desktop if I am executing this command in XFCE desktop enviroment ?
[18:43] <nperry> kubanc: If you dont want to install gnome, no :)
[18:44] <Rajasun> kubanc: you don;t xubantu-desktop will do just fine :P
[18:44] <ronin_> good evening guys
[18:44] <nperry> !hello | ronin_
[18:44] <manjula1> Sorry  i got DC
[18:44] <nperry> manjula1: run 'sudo update-grub' from the 8.10, it should then update with the 9.04 lines
[18:44] <nperry> ^^ if you didnt see :)
[18:45] <manjula1> nperry: for that should i mount the 9.04 partition ? it has ext4 and 8.10 says it cant mount it
[18:45] <Hiram> can anyone help me with desktop effects problems? they worked until i updated this morning. After i did that, I can't enable them.
[18:46] <ronin_> guys i have a samsung nc 10 and on bt4 but bright is too high
[18:47] <nperry> manjula1: Ah, that could be a problem - As it'd need to see it :s
[18:47] <ronin_> apologize for my english
[18:47] <manjula1> nperry: i update it and grub didnt see the ext4 partition
[18:48] <LjL> ronin_: this is the Ubuntu, not the BT, support channel. try #remote-exploit
[18:48] <tecurik> Hello, I edited /etc/apt/sources.list and tried to add gnome-do, but it failed, and then I removed the line. Now when I run "aptitude update", I get the following error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages    404 not found. And I don't know what it should say in sources.list. Any way so reset maybe ?
[18:48] <nperry> !pastebin | manjula1  - '/boot/grub/menu.lst'
[18:48] <manjula1> nperry: my problem is i dont have the ubuntu 9.04 CD with me so i can reinstall the grub from that and i have some files i need to get in that ext4 partion fast
[18:48] <ronin_> yes ubuntu but bt4 is a ubuntu
[18:49] <LjL> ronin_: no, it's a derivative.
[18:49] <LjL> it's not supported here.
[18:49] <chris_> manjula1: there's a thread on ubuntu forums which mentions this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1138516
[18:49] <Younder> Hiram, There is a seperate group #upstart which deals with the upstart manager, they helped me perhaps they can help you.
[18:49] <ronin_> ok thank you LJL
[18:50] <manjula1> chris: thanks
[18:50] <chris_> np, good luck ;)
[18:50] <manjula1> nperry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337472/plain/
[18:51] <cusco> hi
[18:51] <ronin_> hi cusco
[18:51] <cusco> since karmic I've lost the option to right clic a gnome panel and add stuff or change stuff
[18:51] <Galvatron> Hi
[18:51] <manjula1> nperry: is there a way to get the grub to see tha ext4 partition ??
[18:51] <cusco> is there a tool that does it?
[18:51] <tecurik> Hello, I get the an error while updating, http://paste.ubuntu.com/337473/ , because I did something wrong with sources.list
[18:52] <wei> hmm. question, what is the command to bring up font configuration dialog in GNOME?
[18:52] <bastid_raZor> tecurik: pastebin your sources.list
[18:52] <nperry> manjula1: I'm not to sure wheather this will work, but lets give it a go. Can you grap the UUID for the 9.04 partion please?
[18:53] <sponzor> can you have graphical install in ubuntu server?
[18:53] <sponzor> text based is hard to partition disks....
[18:53] <cusco> since karmic I've lost the option to right clic a gnome panel and add stuff or change stuff
[18:53] <tecurik> Here is my sources.list file, http://paste.ubuntu.com/337476/
[18:53] <cornflake> does anyone know the standard name for an asp project file?
[18:53] <wei> hmm. question, what is the command(terminal) to bring up font configuration dialog in GNOME?
[18:54] <Alan502> I want to setup an ethernet bridge with linux, what distro would be the best one? the computer will be used only for the ethernet bridge and to share files.
[18:54] <bastid_raZor> tecurik: pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update
[18:54] <grawity> wei: gnome-appearance-properties?
[18:54] <Galvatron> After recent updates my Kuubuntu 9.04 stopped detecting my printer HP Deskjest 3420. In OO.org Writer I only have "Generic printer" with no advenced options and when I try to print anyway, I get "Error while printing". I have HPLIP and CPS is running.
[18:54] <cornflake> Alan502, anything really. i prefer freebsd for servers though
[18:55] <manjula1> nperry: OK
[18:55] <tecurik> Pastebin of apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/337479/
[18:55] <manjula1> nperry: "fee149cf-8ecc-46d4-a805-5dc3890d3bad" TYPE="ext4"
[18:56] <crohakon> So, I recently made some upgrades (the upgrade manager popped up and asked me if I wanted to, so I said yes) and afterwards my sound volume has been rather low. I have checked all of the volume controls and they are all set to max. I am running ubuntu 9.04
[18:56] <nperry> manjula1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337481/
[18:57] <nperry> manjula1: This is a longshot.. but that in /boot/grub/menu.lst then reboot
[18:57] <bastid_raZor> tecurik: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  look in there for what you've added.
[18:57] <nperry> t/but/put
[18:57] <manjula1> nperry: ok i will try that and see thanks
[18:57] <tecurik> ahh, sorry, I got the following errors from apt-get update (:
[18:57] <cusco> wei: I think you want gnome-appearance-properties
[18:57] <iamfuzz> hello all, modifying a livecd and tryng to remove openoffice, but the language pack install phase keeps pulling it in anyway
[18:57] <iamfuzz> anyone have an idea how to prevent this?
[18:57] <iamfuzz> I even added d-i     pkgsel/language-pack-patterns   string
[18:57] <iamfuzz> # Language support is expected to be missing.
[18:57] <iamfuzz> d-i     pkgsel/install-language-support boolean false
[18:58] <iamfuzz> to the seed file and still a nogo
[18:58] <wei> got it, thanks guys
[18:58] <nperry> iamfuzz: From karmic, hasnt oo been removed :s
[18:58] <manjula1> nperry: going to reboot bye thanks
[18:59] <kavelot> isn't it possible to find updates for gutsy anymore?
[18:59] <freaky[t]> how do I install only the dependencies of a package?
[18:59] <nperry> manjula1: Enjoy :D
[18:59] <hellyes> how can I get my GRUB loader back? I installed windows 7 on another partition and it overwrote my GRUB loader so now I can't load ubuntu.  Any ideas?
[18:59] <Alan502> Does anyone know how to enable kde notifications when using compiz? i cannot get to see them with compiz :S
[18:59] <nperry> freaky[t]: sudo aptitude build-dep packagename
[18:59] <cusco> kavelot: try http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[18:59] <iamfuzz> nperry, yes it's karmic, and openoffice has been removed from the cd and the ubuntu-desktop desc file modified to not include it
[18:59] <kavelot> cusco: thanks
[18:59] <iamfuzz> but the langpack install pulls it in
[18:59] <cusco> kavelot: example: deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
[19:00] <freaky[t]> nperry, is there a way with apt-get (not aptitude)?
[19:00] <iamfuzz> I'm trying to prevent the langpack phase from even happening
[19:00] <nperry> freaky[t]: Cant remeber, aptitude does exactly same :)
[19:00] <ranjan> hello every body i am having an issue  with ubuntu 9.10 when i start the system i am geting an error msg as could not able to update ICEauthority file in /homr/ranjan/.ICEauthoriy file  can any body on this network can help me in this problem
[19:00] <cusco> hellyes: use a livecd and install startupmanager and use it
[19:01] <cusco> ranjan: remove the file
[19:01] <Guest46430> hi there. i hope somebody can help me:   i bought a toshiba sat 110 with a realtek 8172 wifi card that is not working.   what should i do next?
[19:01] <nperry> freaky[t]: sudo apt-get build-dep packagename  works
[19:01] <freaky[t]> nperry, thank you :')
[19:01] <vasuvi> Is there any way to force DKMS to rebuild a video driver (in this case, nouveau)?
[19:01] <cusco> Guest46430: can you see it with "sudo iwconfig" ?
[19:01] <ubuntu> hello
[19:02] <ubuntu> ^^
[19:02] <nperry> !hello | ubuntu
[19:02] <Rajasun> freaky[t]: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[19:02] <freaky[t]> Rajasun, APT HOWTO (Obsolete Documentation)  ^^
[19:02] <cusco> gnome pannel in karmic does not have right click options do add/change/remove stuff !??!
[19:02] <cusco> howto??
[19:03] <Rajasun> freaky[t]: it isn't
[19:03] <nperry> cusco: Odd, i do :)
[19:03]  * cusco shots nperry and yels: head-shot!
[19:03] <cusco> wtf
[19:03] <cusco> why don't I?
[19:04] <nperry> cusco: sorry sounded sarcastic.. Have you just installed/upgraded or just reboot and something broke?
[19:04] <JoeSomebody> is there a channel for ubuntu server?
[19:04] <cusco> I upgraded to karmic
[19:04] <cusco> and rebooted ofcourse
[19:04] <freaky[t]> nperry, lol and how do i remove those dependencies again?
[19:04] <erUSUL> JoeSomebody: #ubuntu-server
[19:05] <ranjan> cusco:: i am having one more isue when i loged in my account nothing was visible so re rebouted my system in safe mode can this problem be too soved by this
[19:05] <jonbb> !ncmpcpp
[19:05] <cusco> ranjan: sorry I dunno
[19:05] <swerve121> can some one help me with getting custom settings from NVIDIA
[19:05] <jonbb> does anyone use ncmpcpp or mpd? i can play music from the servers audio devices (even remotely of course). however, when ssh'd into the server remotely.. if I hit play I'd like it to play to the
[19:06] <anthony__> can anyone help with my new computer?  i have a realtek 8172 not working with ubuntu
[19:06] <jonbb>  machine I'm ssh'ing from.  i know this is probably the most uber-freq-asked question-  so could you point me to where I should be looking?
[19:06] <nperry> freaky[t]: You'd have to apt-get remove one by one im afraid
[19:06] <cusco> anthony__: "sudo iwconfig" <- does it show the interface?
[19:06] <swerve121> i need to get a custom display
[19:06] <anthony__> cusco: thanks, i'll check
[19:07] <ubuntu> is 128MB RAM 2GB HDD(SSD) and 500MHz enough for running a linux desktop system?
[19:07] <gotsanity> Is there any way to sync the ubuntu calendar/clock panel widget with google calendar?
[19:07] <darkside__> hola
[19:07] <SwedeMike> ubuntu: what do you want to do with it?
[19:07] <sponzor> is there only text mode to install ubuntu server?
[19:07] <ngirard_> Hi all. How can I prevent such gvfs-gdu-whatever to try & mount my external hard disk so that I fsck it ?
[19:07] <SwedeMike> sponzor: yes, look at the alternate cd
[19:07] <idodiaduede> help
[19:07] <anthony__> cusco: "no wireless extensions"
[19:07] <rearatrordvag> help
[19:07] <cusco> freaky[t]: you can try apt-get autoremove and deborphan to look for unused packages
[19:07] <nperry> !ask
[19:07] <bluessisecy> help
[19:08] <agreerdodata> help
[19:08] <coerheada> help
[19:08] <flyingshoes> help
[19:08] <darkside__> alguien de argentina?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:08] <Bloxxy> !es | darkside__
[19:08] <tredideal> help
[19:08] <mdg_> hello
[19:08] <horroorse> help
[19:08] <bilbo> hola alguien de bilbao?
[19:08] <wajonryAwanda> help
[19:08] <emailoc17> help
[19:08] <darkside__> action sos de argentina?
[19:08] <pilif12p> !op
[19:09] <paissad-hp> est ce que c'est possible de détacher un programme de la console carrément sachant qu'on ne l'a pas lancé avec nohup au départ ?
[19:09] <crohakon> So, I recently made some upgrades (the upgrade manager popped up and asked me if I wanted to, so I said yes) and afterwards my sound volume has been rather low. I have checked all of the volume controls and they are all set to max. I am running ubuntu 9.04. Any advice on why this might have happened?
[19:09] <nperry> !op
[19:09] <sponzor> SwedeMike: by saying alternate cd what do you mean by that?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> !fr | paissad-hp
[19:09] <paissad-hp> genre envoyer un signal "nohup" au PID du processus démarré à partir d'une console
[19:09] <anthony__> cusco: any ideas?
[19:09] <cusco> anthony__: I just googled it. seems that you need to use ndiswrapper - try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1182457
[19:09] <williamyf> help
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> !ask | williamyf
[19:09] <paissad-hp> ActionParsnip, damn it , i thoought i was into ubuntu-fr, really sorry :D
[19:09] <SwedeMike> sponzor: I mean the alternate cd. google for "ubuntu alternate cd"
[19:10] <imarerandom> help
[19:10] <fedixetroxime> help
[19:10] <meksueree> help
[19:10] <anthony__> cusco: thanks, i'll try it again
[19:10] <cusco> nperry: how about my gnome-panel, any hints?
[19:10] <sueloferNourip> help
[19:10] <SwedeMike> sponzor: "text based alternate install cd"
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> !ask | sueloferNourip
[19:10] <tuoplok> help
[19:10] <SwedeMike> sponzor: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[19:10] <jasualsfruics> help
[19:10] <nperry> cusco: Have you upgraded or installed recently?
[19:10] <abnorge> help
[19:10] <nperry> !op
[19:11] <djvinny> êòî ïðîñâåòèò íà ñ÷åò óáóíòû ?
[19:11] <into_311> hi, i have a major problem with our ubuntu server and Im' wondering if somebody has any suggestions. It keeps freezing at the login screen after I put in my password.
[19:11] <jonbb> does anyone know why ncmpcpp would pause immediately after starting to play?
[19:11] <Bloxxy> !ru | djvinny
[19:12] <djvinny> sorry
[19:12] <mdg_> into_311: which version of ubuntu server - just curious
[19:12] <genii> nperry: There's no current emergency which requires an operator. Please refrain from using !op unless required
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> into_311: does it happen with all users?
[19:13] <cusco> nperry: as I said before, yes I just upgraded to karmic from jaunty....
[19:13] <nperry> genii: Well last 5mins, people coming in under different nicks saying help
[19:13] <cusco> anthony__: if you never used ndiswrapper it can be a pain first time. Basically it uses windows .inf .sys drivers ....
[19:13] <coldboot> What happened to the Bitstream Vera fonts in Karmic?
[19:13] <genii> nperry: Yes, actions are being taken
[19:13] <schmichael> anyone able to play netflix in linux using wine preferably or virtualbox+windows-guest barring that?
[19:14] <nperry> genii: ok, my bad! Sorry
[19:14] <erUSUL> coldboot: maybe they finally got replaced fully by Deja Vu
[19:14] <mdg_> anthony__: which wifi adapter you trying to setup?
[19:14] <anthony__> cusco: i'm not getting anything to happen when i do alt-f2/ it seems to be there, but...   no luck. Is this the only way for me to use ubuntu on this machine?
[19:14] <nperry> cusco: Sorry didn't see
[19:14] <coldboot> erUSUL: What's that?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> schmichael: looks like it needs a LOT of windows fluff to run
[19:14] <anthony__> mdg:realtek 8172 on a toshiba t110
[19:14] <sponzor> SwedeMike: ok i m downloading alternate cd.. is that server also? or yust desktop?
[19:14] <erUSUL> coldboot: bitstream derivatives
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> schmichael: looks like you'll have to plump up and shell for a Win license
[19:15] <BlackPho> Bonsoir
[19:15] <mdg_> anthony__: is that  usb adapter?
[19:15] <strywgr> what does sudo apt-get clean actually do?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> schmichael: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081116191111AA5UABZ
[19:15] <anthony__> mdg: built in card
[19:15] <strywgr> remove all the downloaded *debs?
[19:15] <mdg_> anthony__: so you probably don't have a windows driver cd for it...?
[19:15] <schmichael> ActionParsnip: i have a windows license, but the last time i tried it in vbox, it was a slideshow (< 1 FPS)
[19:15] <cusco> anthony__: what seems to be there? Im not understanding
[19:15] <djvinny> Who will prompt, Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 on Intel will rise?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> strywgr: apt-get and synaptic etc hold ALL downloaded debs in /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:15] <anthony__> mdg: no cd drive on the machine, so no cds
[19:15] <cusco> anthony__: you should look up on how to set up ndiswrapper in google
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> strywgr: apt-get clean   cleans them out
[19:16] <mdg_> anthony__: oh netbook
[19:16] <anthony__> cusco: thanks, i'll try
[19:16] <strywgr> Action, is their any problem in removing them? My / partition is getting lesser everyday.
[19:16] <cusco> anthony__: on that forum there is a link to download them drivers
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> schmichael: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTqsSN1YiYI
[19:16] <erUSUL> djvinny: yes; amd64 is the name for 64 bits x96_64 architecture it will work in intel chips that support it (intel calls it emt64)
[19:16] <anthony__> cusco: i didn't see the link, and cant find drivers from dozens of google
[19:16] <cusco> nperry: well.. I just upgraded... and I don't have right click options to mess about gnome-panel.. do you know why, or what can I do?
[19:17] <nperry> cusco: I'm just searching to see if this is a reported regression bug
[19:17] <schmichael> ActionParsnip: huh, i'll have to try it again.  maybe my computer just isn't powerful enough
[19:17] <anthony__> mdg:any ideas? i just need to figure out ndiswrapper?
[19:17] <cusco> anthony__: post n3 8
[19:17] <cusco> anthony__: post n# 8
[19:17] <coldboot> erUSUL: What's is DejaVu?
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> schmichael: looks like it needs some grunt, you are running windows then an app like that
[19:18] <cusco> oh.. nperry:  ok thanks
[19:18] <erUSUL> coldboot: already told you bitstream vera derivative fonts
[19:18] <anthony__> cusco: thnks again
[19:18] <djvinny> erUSUL: Memory too 4Gb will see?
[19:18] <erUSUL> djvinny: yes; 64 bits can use 4 GiB
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> coldboot: it means "see again" and its where you experience something you swore you have experienced already in every minute detail
[19:18] <schmichael> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help, i'll make sure to spam the interwebs if i get it working :)
[19:19] <cusco> brb
[19:19] <djvinny> thanks
[19:19] <mdg_> anthony__: we need the exact adapter info - do an "lspci" without quotes in a terminal window and let us know what you have - its better to work from that info
[19:19] <crohakon> So, I recently made some upgrades (the upgrade manager popped up and asked me if I wanted to, so I said yes) and afterwards my sound volume has been rather low. I have checked all of the volume controls and they are all set to max. I am running ubuntu 9.04. Any advice on why this might have happened?
[19:19] <daveQ>  /nick nyterage
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> djvinny: you can use a PAE enabled kernel to get 32bit to see more ram
[19:20] <mdg_> anthony__: you using 9.04 or 9.10? - I missed that part of the conversation sorry
[19:20] <mikebuntu> what is the deal with this Google DNS stuff I'm hearing about lately?
[19:20] <anthony__> mdg: 9.10 (actually, it's mint, hope that doesn't mess it up)
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> !ot | mikebuntu
[19:20] <mikebuntu> I mean, why would I want to change my connection to use Google DNS?
[19:21] <mdg_> anthony__: I love mint - havent tried the new version - actualloy downloading now :)
[19:21] <mdg_> anthony__: you have live usb?
[19:21] <mikebuntu> Well it kinda is... since I was thinking of changing my unbuntu netbook to use Google DNS and the question was raised from the Ubuntu wiki
[19:21] <mikebuntu> are we going to play that card?
[19:21] <dajhorn> mikebuntu: Some ISPs hijack DNS requests.  If you use the Google DNS, something called the "nxdomain" feature will work properly.
[19:21] <iroviesickeds> help
[19:21] <muarfurniture> help
[19:21] <nfomercialrevi> help
[19:21] <anthony__> mdg: i have it, but installed on my computer
[19:22] <spurlelpede> help
[19:22] <awaipsema> help
[19:22] <wooxiakex> help
[19:22] <rivoot> guys, If you need help, just ask what you have to ask
[19:22] <mdg_> anthony__: did you test drive before install - just wondering if wifi worked at that point
[19:22] <unusty> help
[19:22] <affimichonfokc> help
[19:22] <herstoinospec> help
[19:22] <Jayce> Question - if I do a kernel update, is there any chance of me having problems with my WICD? I use WICD instead of network manager, and someone on the forums mentioned "can be tricky, especially with kernel updates." I'm actually about to update this system (reinstalled yesterday). Would I lose WICD or have any issues with it if I begin the kernel update process?
[19:22] <appekkekcal> help
[19:22] <mikebuntu> dajhorn: would that have any effect on performance?
[19:22] <Rajasun> spambots
[19:22] <pilif12p> Yeah
[19:22] <rivoot> yeah, notice that
[19:23] <easetsradlide> help
[19:23] <anthony__> mdg: i didn't. i have ubuntu 9.10 on another toshiba, didn't think about this problem
[19:23] <dajhorn> mikebuntu: No, it is rather likely to be faster.
[19:23] <pilif12p> i called ops once.
[19:23] <aloana> help
[19:23] <lasivian> this may be a stupid question, but how can I see if a machine is running 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu?
[19:23] <abillospibict> help
[19:23] <mr_engineer> is there any way I can execute a desktop launcher from a terminal?
[19:23] <rivoot> there0s another D:
[19:23] <nalablugh> help
[19:23] <pilif12p> genii: Chanserv seems to hate you
[19:23] <illummacato> help
[19:23] <luist> how do i change the time for the screen to go black?
[19:23] <nperry> cusco: Sorry I cant seem to see any regression reported, or anything that would break it
[19:23] <pilif12p> !ask > illummacato
[19:23] <mikebuntu> dajhorn: that's what I meant... so if I use Google DNS I might get a little faster connection? Or at least better latency?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> lasivian: uname -a              i686 == 32bit, x86_64 == 64bit
[19:23] <pol-ar> how do I call ssh-askpass-gnome from my own program?
[19:23] <dajhorn> lasivian: `uname -a` will give you that information.
[19:23] <mdg_> anthony__: are you using the laptop you are trying to fix to chat right now?
[19:23] <mr_engineer> luist, go to power management
[19:24] <aceveange> help
[19:24] <lasivian> thanks
[19:24] <anthony__> mdg: no, another
[19:24] <mr_engineer> luist, gnome-power-manager
[19:24] <liakrairemn> help
[19:24] <mdg_> anthony__: feel like trying an experiment?
[19:24] <zincinnifiend> help
[19:24] <dajhorn> mikebuntu:  It depends where you are, and who your ISP is.  Try it and see.  Print the instructions for reverting the change before you do it.
[19:24] <anthony__> mdg: sure do
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: if you use a local DNS it will be much faster: http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/08/02/local-dns-cache-for-faster-browsing/
[19:24] <mikebuntu> dajhorn: thans
[19:24] <dajhorn> mikebuntu: If you typo the change or make a mistake, then you'll lose Internet access until you revert it.
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: makes resolves take 0ms rather than 25ms
[19:25] <mdg_> anthony__: try booting from the mint live USB so we can see if wifi worked at that point and possibly see what driver it is using (If working)
[19:25] <dajhorn> mikebuntu: Welcome.
[19:25] <lasivian> i'm guessing to change from 32 bit to 64 bit is a complete wipe and reinstall?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: multiply tat up and it makes a difference
[19:25] <anthony__> mdg: give me a minute or two
[19:25] <mdg_> anthony__: okay.  take your time :)
[19:25] <dajhorn> lasivian: Yes.  It is very difficult to do that kind of upgrade in place.
[19:25] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, I'll take a look at that, thanks!
[19:26] <lasivian>  dajhorn : thanks, this is a 64 bit notebook but it's running 32 bit
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: i have one on all my systems, makes things nice
[19:26] <arbirlpits> help
[19:26] <lasivian> tho i'm wondering if i'll see much difference
[19:26] <origreebreway> help
[19:26] <egtux> Hello
[19:26] <ipz61> help
[19:26] <dajhorn> lasivian: Probably not.
[19:26] <crohakon> So, I recently made some upgrades (the upgrade manager popped up and asked me if I wanted to, so I said yes) and afterwards my sound volume has been rather low. I have checked all of the volume controls and they are all set to max. I am running ubuntu 9.04. Any advice on why this might have happened?
[19:26] <pilif12p> !ask > ipz61
[19:26] <rapha> hi
[19:26] <lesbian> help
[19:27] <egtux> I have a problem with windows network  i can't access sharing , could anyone help
[19:27] <ToxinPowe> Anyone have KDE 4.4 beta1 in 9.10 Karmic Koala plz?
[19:27] <rapha> my USB headphones worked perfectly fine under 9.04, but under 9.10 i can't select them for output - how to fix that?
[19:27] <pilif12p> lesbian: Ok.
[19:27] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, cools... looks like it's worth doing. I appreciate that extra tidbit!
[19:27] <peque> hi, can someone help me to set my disk partitions so they are automatically mounted when i log in? (sorry if i have errors writing, im not english)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | ToxinPowe
[19:27] <bakumx> plz my conxx internet dont working
[19:28] <bakumx> on ubuntu
[19:28] <anthony__> mdg: sorry, i have to rebuild the live usb. few more minutes
[19:28] <warkbabbave> help
[19:28] <jp-enguin> Does anyone know why many people begin their questions with "Does anyone know"?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> !fdisk | peque
[19:28] <mdg_> anthony__: okay
[19:28] <lasivian> dajhorn, Google says I gain a tiny bit of speed and Adobe flash breaks completely. I guess i'll pass :)
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> !fdisk
[19:28] <lasivian> jp-enguin, politeness
[19:28] <ToxinPowe> ActionParsnip, my question is how to installl kde 4.4 beta1 in Karmic any  repository?
[19:28] <byprorkathota> help
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> peque: you need to add the partitions in /etc/fstab
[19:29] <dajhorn> lasivian: It is tempting though, to try and get the full 64 bit goodness.  ;)
[19:29] <bakumx> can u help me ?
[19:29] <ternetir> help
[19:29] <pilif12p> !ask
[19:29] <peque> ActionParsnip: no matter the order? or shall i add those lines at the end?
[19:30] <pilif12p> ^^ All of you
[19:30] <glen__> Hi, I am using grsync to sync music between PC & laptop. I've mounted the PC's /home/glen/ on to laptop at /mnt/gpc/glen, and use /mnt/gpc/music as source as /home/glen/music as destination. does anyone know why rather than syncing it would add the music directory again, eg, make /home/glen/music/music and copy music to there? is it because I need to add trailing slashes? thanks
[19:30] <ManDay> Whats vmlinuz?
[19:30] <bakumx> !ask intenet network
[19:30] <lasivian> I hate it when I do "ls" in a DOS window
[19:30] <ManDay> and why is it sitting in my /
[19:30] <dajhorn> ManDay: That is the Linux kernel.
[19:30] <ArmyMan007> hi! is there any way i can combine the GNOME with the KDE into one ubuntu?
[19:30] <mkro> #ubuntu-es
[19:30] <salamiindia> help
[19:30] <ManDay> dajhorn, so wth is it sitting in /?
[19:30] <E1leen> ManDay: the linux kernel
[19:31] <dajhorn> ManDay: Do you have a very old system?  What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[19:31] <ManDay> 9.10
[19:31] <ArmyMan007> hi! is there any way i can combine the GNOME with the KDE into one ubuntu?
[19:31] <hevalbaranov> quit
[19:31] <ty5479> Hey Guys, when Im installing "grub-install" I get an error saying "cannot find list of partitions. I've tried everything on the grub2 help site.
[19:32] <Rajasun> ToxinPowe: try searching on the ppas https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[19:32] <ToxinPowe> thx
[19:32] <Guest42569> hello fellows
[19:32] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, would it matter if I changed my DNS to Google DNS before doing the local dns cache?
[19:32] <ManDay> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8463668#post8463668 pls
[19:32] <E1leen> ArmyMan007: ?
[19:32] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, I mean... does it matter which I do first?
[19:32] <ArmyMan007> E1leen: did u understand the question?
[19:32] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, is there a way to assign different keys than ctrl-alt-f1..n for switching terminals?
[19:33] <ManDay> dajhorn, nevermind it seens to be just an ln
[19:33] <anthony__> mdg: same result from the live usb
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: doesnt matter, if your local doesnt kno the IP it will ask the next one
[19:33] <dajhorn> glen__: You can get this kind of rsync behavior if one of the filesystems is VFAT, because the timestamps are imprecise.  This can also happen if one of the computers is running a program that automatically retags the music files.  The '/' on the end matters.
[19:33] <ManDay> doesnt explain why it has been created in / thi
[19:33] <E1leen> ArmyMan007: yeah, but maybe you need to rephrase it somewhat..
[19:33] <ManDay> tho
[19:33] <SmokeyD> I have a mini bluetooth keyboard with my mediacenter that doesn't have the F-keys
[19:33] <chomwitt> can i restart alsa sound system without rebooting (i experimeting with codec models)
[19:33] <robinr> I made a mistake it seems. I had a kubuntu 9.04, made a cdrom upgrade from the alternative cd and now cannot boot
[19:33] <chomwitt> ?
[19:33] <ManDay> Now can anyone tell me how to slow down my mouse pointer?
[19:33] <mdg_> anthony__: okay - lets still try to get some info while still booted
[19:33] <ArmyMan007> E1leen: how would you suggest to rephrase it? it's quite understandeble
[19:33] <anthony__> mdg: thanks
[19:34] <robinr> my / is on lvm which seems invisible in /dev
[19:34] <mdg_> anthony__: in a terminal type "sudo lshw -C network" (without quotes)
[19:34] <robinr> lvm can see it
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> ToxinPowe: might find it in here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=kde
[19:34] <E1leen> ArmyMan007: combine gnome and kde into one ubuntu ???
[19:34] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, thanks again... gonna get to work see if I can switch over to google dns and get a local dns copy
[19:34] <glen__> dajhorn: many thanks
[19:34] <robinr> any tips?
[19:34] <dajhorn> glen__: Welcome.
[19:34] <ArmyMan007> E1leen: have u taken a look into the ubuntu log page? it askes which kind of system u want!
[19:34] <ArmyMan007> GNOME or KDE
[19:34] <ManDay> and how can i make ubuntu automatically get rid of old kernels?
[19:35] <E1leen> ArmyMan007: GNOME
[19:35] <anthony__> mdg: which info do you need?
[19:35] <ArmyMan007> just a sec...
[19:35] <mdg_> claimed, unclamed, enabled disabled
[19:35] <freeride> hello, does anybody use TurboPrint???
[19:35] <fluowlybuby> help
[19:36] <anthony__> mdg: network unclaimed
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | freeride:
[19:36] <bradpitt> hi. i have a problem, after installing w7, grub2 don't recognize it. the output is invalid signature. please help :)
[19:36] <mdg_> anthony__: at a terminal type "lspci"
[19:37] <mdg_> anthony__: we are looking for the info referring to the realtek pci card
[19:37] <freeride> how to crack TurboPrint Drivers????
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> freeride: define "crack"
[19:37] <anthony__> mdg: realtek is 8172 card
[19:37] <AJC_Z0> Where in CCSM or elsewhere do I set new window placement policy for compiz?
[19:37] <anthony__> mdg: (rev 10)
[19:38] <mdg_> anthony__: are there numbers there too?
[19:38] <rampageoberon> anyone here having trouble connecting to MSN using pidgin?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> AJC_Z0: i'd ask in #compiz
[19:38] <freeride> ActionParsnip it needs a key file to work, but i don't have it, and it costs money
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: connects fine here
[19:38] <Dream-Ubu> is it nessecery to download ubuntu 64bit for a computer with 4g of ram?
[19:38] <anthony__> mdg: not sure: 08.00.0    ?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> freeride: then buy it, its cheap
[19:38] <AJC_Z0> ActionParsnip: Will do. Thanks
[19:38] <rampageoberon> ActionParsnip: i get an error saying protocol not supported, was working fine yesterday
[19:38] <mdg_> anthony__: yeah a set of numbers with colons in it
[19:39] <E1leen> Dream-Ubu: no
[19:39] <anthony__> mdg: 08:00.0 is all that appears with colons
[19:39] <freeride> to puy for softwate for linux, it's stupid. so that, I can use windows
[19:39] <Dream-Ubu> E1leen: would the system run smoother if i did?
[19:39] <E1leen> Dream-Ubu: no
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> freeride: no, some software is paid for
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> freeride: like crossover office, penumbra, cedega
[19:40] <Dream-Ubu> E1leen: >_< well, that saves time then ^^ thanks
[19:40] <E1leen> Dream-Ubu: np
[19:40] <mdg_> anthony__: I'm seeing if I can track anything down in the wiki..
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> freeride: its not ALL free
[19:40] <freeride> ActionParsnip: may be you are right, but there's always another way
[19:40] <anthony__> mdg: thanks so much for your help. you rule
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: try using the http method in advanced settings
[19:40] <PetterDK> hi guys.. im having problems booting properly.. i get this error message at the login screen: "install problem! The configuration defaults for GNOME Power Manager have not been installed correctly. Please contact your computer administrator."
[19:41] <rampageoberon> ActionParsnip: thanks, already tried that which also gave same error :(
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> freeride: if you want turboprint you must buy it, we do not support any illegal activities here
[19:41] <freeride> ActionParsnip: ok, I understand, now i'm sure to buy it. thanks a lot
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: using server: messenger.hotmail.com port 1863
[19:42] <rampageoberon> ActionParsnip: correct, and gateway.messenger.hotmail.com for http
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: yeah, your username is your full email address too
[19:42] <mdg_> anthony__: still searching - by the way, what driver have others been telling you to use?
[19:43] <rampageoberon> ActionParsnip: yes full address (no change in settings from yesterday when it worked)
[19:43] <PetterDK> any suggestions?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: can you ping messenger.hotmail.com ?
[19:43] <anthony__> mdg: people are talking about ndswrapper, or something like that, but only referencing linova drivers/forum, can't sort it out
[19:43] <rampageoberon> ActionParsnip: actually no, resolves to 64.4.9.254
[19:43] <blibrabycle> help
[19:44] <attandaporp> help
[19:44] <nereeartito> help
[19:44] <dioppyspash> help
[19:44] <mdg_> anthony__: okay - we need to go by the pciid - that's the chip number...
[19:44] <jeffzz> help
[19:44] <zisydrittee> help
[19:44] <anthony__> mdg: how can i find that
[19:44] <E1leen> PetterDK: for how long have you had that installation on that box ?
[19:44] <sharachaima> help
[19:44] <mdg_> anthony__: I'm looking up the exact command - I don'
[19:44] <tritiarma> help
[19:44] <GENTGLYMNGYMN> help
[19:44] <mdg_> anthony__: I don't recall from memory
[19:44] <coldboot> Compiz settings seems to be missing in Karmic 9.10, where do I find it?
[19:45] <unmapseempach> help
[19:45] <PetterDK> Elleen - a few months.. give or take
[19:45] <EasyTVonPC> help
[19:45] <mdg_> anthony__: lspci -n
[19:45] <gartcratnef> help
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: same IP here
[19:45] <anthony__> mdg: lots of numbers, lots of colons
[19:45] <cusco> nperry: ok thanks
[19:46] <mdg_> anthony__: it will return a number 0000:00:ob.0 0280:  14e4:4318 (rev 10) - its that last part we want
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: if you install traceroute, can you traceroute to the name?
[19:46] <E1leen> PetterDK: did you adjust the powerscheme ?
[19:46] <slopleedida> help
[19:46] <cusco> !ask
[19:46] <cusco> ok
[19:46] <Pymnuncobby> help
[19:46] <mikebuntu> just changed my DNS to Google DNS (I think)... how can I tell which DNS I'm using to see if I did the changes correctly and the new DNS is being utilized?
[19:46] <cusco> damn
[19:46] <cusco> !oper
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Pici: they are persistant arent they
[19:46] <Pici> ActionParsnip: yep :(
[19:46] <anthony__> mdg: 10ec:8172 (rev 10)
[19:46] <Seveas> mikebuntu, cat /etc/resolv.conf :-)
[19:46] <erUSUL> mikebuntu: check the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[19:47] <mdg_> anthony__: anthony__ okay
[19:47] <PetterDK> Elleen - No.. dont know what that is.. I have tried doing
[19:47] <cusco> mikebuntu: nslookup blabla.com
[19:47] <mantunloara> help
[19:47] <PetterDK> dpkg --configure -a
[19:47] <E1leen> PetterDK: Login and alter the powerscheme then login again and see if that does the trick. Could also be a bad hd.
[19:47] <nashboro> help
[19:47] <cusco> mikebuntu: or dig something.com
[19:47] <empopladainvim> help
[19:47] <cusco> Pici: do something about those join help part
[19:47] <Pici> cusco: trying
[19:47] <PetterDK> Elleen - How do I do that?
[19:47] <Seveas> cusco, that's exactly what Pici is doing
[19:48] <cusco> sorry
[19:48] <mikebuntu> cool, It lists Google's DNS but it also lists my routers? I was wondering how that works... am I really using google's DNS when I'm behind my router?
[19:48] <andywm> help
[19:48] <mdg_> anthony__:  just doing a little reading...
[19:48] <haishimisse> help
[19:48] <mrchucho> I've create kvm guests (both w/ dhcp and w/ static IPs) and can run them... but I can't connect to them (or even ping them). Any ideas about how to debug the connection problems?
[19:48] <cusco> loads of different proxys
[19:48] <Seveas> Pici, that was a miss :-)
[19:48] <lenagolubewwa> help
[19:48] <occannyweaddy> help
[19:48] <Pici> Seveas: yes.. I realized that
[19:48] <vikadivo> help
[19:49] <maple1> i was writing paper on the pc and it was like Bleep Bleep Bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep and then like half of my paper was gone
[19:49] <maple1> it devoured my paper
[19:49] <laetzer> Hi all. I have an older 64bit AMD. I installed the 64bit DVD iso I downloaded. Did the install already pick the best kernel (or linux-headers?) based on my CPU, or is it advisable to compile a new one?
[19:49] <E1leen> PetterDK: log in and go to system -> settings -> powermanagement and press apply.
[19:50] <PetterDK> i cant log in to the graphical interface.
[19:50] <rampageoberon> ActionParsnip: it can't find a route there, i tried with 80 hops and see it bouncing back and forth between servers
[19:50] <cusco> Seveas: Pici temporarly make #ubuntu only join registerd nicks?
[19:50] <erUSUL> laetzer: the former
[19:50] <PetterDK> i only have terminal..
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: if you add the lines ABOVE your routers IP it will be tried first, if you install dnsmasq you will have 127.0.0.1 at the top
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: maybe your isp is having issues
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: try with amsn or somesuch
[19:50] <rampageoberon> ActionParsnip: bouncing between 64.4.9.194 and 64.4.9.198
[19:51] <E1leen> PetterDK: force a reinstall of the power manager
[19:51] <solovekaaqw> help
[19:51] <rampageoberon> ActionParsnip: tried from a server I own too (another country) and it can't ping/trace either
[19:51] <mdg_> anthony__: still reading....
[19:51] <anthony__> mdg: thanks again.
[19:51] <Seveas> rampageoberon, those are routers operated by msn itself. That would indicate a problem on their end.
[19:51] <teenaresg> help
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: 64.4.9.194 == ten2-3-142.by2-6nx-msgr-1a.ntwk.msn.net
[19:52] <Cuddles> !bind9
[19:52] <advadosab> help
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: looks like the msn network has a problem
[19:52] <rampageoberon> Seveas, ActionParsnip: thanks for the help, just need to wait for it to sort out itslef
[19:52] <PetterDK> Elleen - will do..
[19:52] <Rajasun> registered nicks ala #freebsd may be the only way to stop them
[19:52] <E1leen> ok
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> rampageoberon: try a different client, see if its the same
[19:53] <Onyx47> Ok guys, I got a big one if anyone has any ideas. My /home won't mount, the partition is not listed in /dev/disk/by-uuid (I thought my fstab maybe got corrupted), I can mount it manually but I have to specify the fs type (mount can't find it), did both fsck and e2fsck, didn't help
[19:53] <rampageoberon> ActionParsnip: okay will do
[19:53] <mdg_> anthony__: have you tried the serialmonkey website?
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Onyx47: have you specified the fs in fstab?
[19:53] <detrix> Hello everyone.  I just purchased a logitec web cam with headset/mic   video no problems.  Microphone though. only sending static.  How do I track down the problem
[19:53] <anthony__> mdg: not yet. i will
[19:54] <Seveas> Onyx47, replace UUID=..... with /dev/yourdrive in /etc/fstab
[19:54] <dAlfa89_> Rajasun, but a lot of people aren't going to bother with registering their nick just to get a little help, they'll go elsewhere
[19:54] <Rajasun> dAlfa89_: give and take. pluses and minuses in all options
[19:55] <jp-enguin> lasivian, i like when i type 'ls' in a dos window. it means i am getting past my abusive childhood
[19:55] <dAlfa89_> Rajasun, I suppose, perhaps we could have two different channels?
[19:55] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, ahhh.. they are indeed above my routers IP address. So I can indeed still use another DNS even though I'm connecting to the internet through my router?
[19:55] <anthony__> mdg: wonder what i should search?
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: sue, the DNS is identified by an IP which is outside your subnet so the request will go out to the web
[19:56] <Rajasun> dAlfa89_: maybe we leave it to the council to decide
[19:56] <Onyx47> Seveas, I just did that, going to reboot to see if it helped
[19:56] <mdg_> anthony__: are you running 32 bit of 64 bit?
[19:56] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, I'm somewhat computer literate but don't have an understanding of exactly how DNS works, hence my confusion on my computer can use Goole's servers for DNS even though it's connected through my router which connects directly to my ISP
[19:56] <anthony__> mdg: 32
[19:56] <mdg_> anthony__: that makes it easier
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: once you resolve the name to the IP you can start a TCP connection to the actual server, if your system ALREADY knows the resolve it will not need the internet to resolve it and will be faste
[19:57] <Seveas> mikebuntu, dns is a phonebook. As long as you know where the phonebook is (so, the IP address of a DNS server), you can use it :)
[19:57] <mdg_> anthony__: can you plug ethernet into that laptop?
[19:57] <PetterDK> Elleen - I did: sudo apt-get remove gnome-power-manager.. that removed gnome-power-manager and ubuntu-desktop.. then i did sudo apt-get install gnome-power-manager && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.. Is that right?
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: your ISP will provide a DNS but if you want to use different ones then thats you call
[19:57] <anthony__> mdg: unfortunately not!
[19:57] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, Seveas so I'll just take that as a "yes", I am using Google's DNS instead of my ISPs? :)
[19:58] <mdg_> anthony__: okay
[19:58] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, some ISP's block dns traffic from client to outside their network, so it's not always the client's call :)
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: not seen that, good point
[19:58] <Seveas> mikebuntu, if your /etc/resolv.conf only has 8.8.4.4 and 8.8.8.8: yes
[19:58] <mdg_> anthony__: had you tried installing any driver or ndiswrapper before now? and what steps did you take
[19:58] <E1leen> PetterDK: a bit heavy maybe but why not. Also test: dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[19:58] <CoverSlide> why is my wget running as a background process? and how come -O doesn't save it to the specified filename?
[19:58] <sponzor> is there any howto partition disks.. i have like 6 disks.. lvm etc...
[19:58] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, I am planning on doing the local DNS cache as you suggested as well, but just looking to find out if the DNS actually uses Googles since I'm behind a router
[19:58] <Seveas> CoverSlide, you probably had a & in the url and forgot to quote it
[19:59] <mikebuntu> Seveas, yes, it does... cool, thanks!
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: your system will try the list from top to bottom so if google times out or fails it will use the next server and so on
[19:59] <anthony__> mdg: i tried to run ndiswrapper, but it didn't run
[19:59] <CoverSlide> ah i see
[19:59] <Commie_Cary> Can I upgrade from a x84 installation to x64?
[19:59] <PetterDK> Elleen - you are probably right :) blunt methods.
[19:59] <Seveas> Commie_Cary, yes, by reinstalling.
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: you can test with: dig www.microsoft.com
[19:59] <E1leen> PetterDK, hehe, yeah.
[19:59] <anthony__> mdg: i think that i need some kind of driver downloaded before running it, right?
[19:59] <mdg_> anthony__: I think we need the net8192se driver
[19:59] <Commie_Cary> Seveas, and not losing all my programs...
[20:00] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, I think I understand... so when it displays my router IP address, it's just saying it's using my router for DNS which in turn will use my ISP for DNS?
[20:00] <mdg_> anthony__: are you on a windows machine right now?
[20:00] <Seveas> Commie_Cary, backup /etc and /home :)
[20:00] <anthony__> mdg: no, ubuntu 9.10
[20:00] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, that is if the first two (Google DNS) times out and it gets to the last option (My router ISP)?
[20:00] <NuuBuntu> how many items should I have in my /lib/modules folder? I'm trying to run a command from a guide and I don't know which one to use.
[20:00] <gratarian> Is there really a clear benefit to running 64-bit or is 32-bit still the best way to go?
[20:00] <Commie_Cary> Seveas, /home is on a seprate partition, im talking about my applications.
[20:00] <Seveas> mikebuntu, indeed
[20:00] <Onyx47> Seveas, thanks, that worked. Simplest solutions work best I guess :) I'm just wondering why it happened in the first place
[20:01] <Commie_Cary> Seveas, not my config files
[20:01] <Seveas> Commie_Cary, backup /etc and the output of dpkg --get-selections so you can easily reinstall all packages
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: you got it
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: here is my dig: http://pastebin.com/m4de572b0
[20:01] <cody> Hi, when I try to unlock a folder it unlocks, but when I access a file inside the folder it locks again
[20:01] <Commie_Cary> Seveas, not all my programs are in the ubuntu respitory
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: notice how the second dig takes 0ms
[20:01] <mdg_> anthony__: I'm looking for the link to net8172se driver....
[20:01] <anthony__> mdg: thanks.
[20:01] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, Seveas, ahhh... that's what confused me, it was dispalying DNS numbers, but then an IP number. Thanks guys! Now to try to local DNS cache you suggested... baby steps. :)
[20:02] <egtux> hello
[20:02] <birdman> can someone tell me how to mount an iso file to a virtual drive/
[20:02] <Seveas> birdman, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[20:03] <erUSUL> !iso | birdman
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> birdman: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[20:03] <egtux> when  click on windows network icon at ubuntu 9.10 this message appear "Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> birdman: linux doesn't have "drives"
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> birdman: it has block devices and mount points
[20:03] <NuuBuntu> How do I know which version from /lib/modules to use?
[20:03] <mdg_> anthony__: someone reported that using the linux8192 driver for realtek8172 worked... looking for more info on that...
[20:04] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, and networked filesystems :-)
[20:04] <egtux> and i can access network sharing
[20:04] <Seveas> NuuBuntu, uname -r
[20:04] <cody> hello
[20:04] <E1leen> ActionParsnip: you mean "drive letters", not "drives".
[20:04] <egtux> any idea to solve ??
[20:04] <NuuBuntu> seveas, what does that mean? should I run that in terminal?
[20:04] <PetterDK> Elleen - No luck.. same result as before..
[20:04] <crohakon> How do I force 9.04 to use a higher resolution? My laptop if capable of 1680×1050 but it only lets me choose up to 1366x768. I have the proper nvidia drivers installed.
[20:04] <birdman> k tanks
[20:04] <birdman> thanks
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> E1leen: yeah, i was using context
[20:04] <cousin_mario> hello
[20:04] <NuuBuntu> seveas, ahah! thank you so much!
[20:04] <Beezie> Hi.  I bought 8Gb of RAM(upped from 4Gb) and my current Ubuntu install does see it.  I do intend to move to 64-bit Ubuntu soon.  Is it safe to let the current Ubuntu(32-bit) run with 8Gb of RAM or will it become unstable?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> crohakon: run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[20:05] <Seveas> NuuBuntu, yes, that returns the current kernel version, and thus the dirname in /lib/modules where modules for it are :)
[20:05] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, will I need to update the DNS cache manually or anything if I follow that procedure?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> crohakon: click "Write to X config file"
[20:05] <cousin_mario> when do you think thunderbird 3 will be integrated in karmic?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: no, they will be added as time goes on, it learns
[20:05] <lesouvage> How do I determine what version of usb ports (version 1 or 2) I have available on my computer?
[20:05] <E1leen> PetterDK: something with the power "schema" is borked. Try "gconf-editor"
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> crohakon: then run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit the resolution in the screen section
[20:06] <E1leen> ActionParsnip: ok.
[20:06] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, great
[20:06] <cody> when i unlock a folder it won't stay unlocked
[20:06] <PetterDK> Elleen - If it helps, the last thing i changed before the problems was something in fstab
[20:06] <zopiac> when I start up my computer, my sound is always extremely low and muted. anyone know why?
[20:06] <Seveas> lesouvage, lsmod | grep hci
[20:06] <PetterDK> permissions as far as i remember
[20:06] <Seveas> lesouvage, if that lists ehci, you're using 2.0
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> crohakon: make sure you set a resolution rather than using auto
[20:07] <nperry> Beezie: Its fine.. 32bits just cant address that much ram!
[20:07] <E1leen> PetterDK: shouldnt matter
[20:07] <lesouvage> Seveas: and if it shows nothing I run 1.1?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> nperry: with PAE, it can
[20:07] <PetterDK> Elleen - cant do that command.. says "cannot open display"
[20:07] <nperry> Indeed ActionParsnip, are the linux images now in repos though?
[20:08] <Beezie> nperry, who does free -m(in terminal) and system monitor "see" it.  is seeing the ram and the ability to address ram different? :P
[20:08] <Beezie> who= why
[20:08] <Seveas> lesouvage, err, looks like I was talking bollocks. Try lspci. It will list USB and USB2 controllers
[20:08] <anthony__> mdg: i really like using ubuntu, but this is a lot of trouble for a brand new computer.  what do you think?
[20:08] <nperry> Beezie: are you running live cd?
[20:08] <Seveas> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01) <-- example of a USB2 controller
[20:08] <Beezie> no, 9.10
[20:08] <E1leen> PetterDK: can you ssh in from another linux box and run that command ?
[20:09] <mdg_> anthony__: I'm going to the realtek site for a look around
[20:09] <crohakon> ActionParsnip, okay, change made, how do I test it?
[20:09] <nperry> Beezie: Odd, if it can be seen, it should be able to be used
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> crohakon: restart the x server
[20:09] <anthony__> mdg: i couldn't find the driver there, earlier, maybe you can. i hope
[20:09] <mbeierl> How does one get rid of ctrl-alt-del prompting for shutdown in gnome?
[20:09] <Beezie> nperry, for a test. i am running virtualbox and am assigning my vm's to 2Gb each... to see what happens.  so far system monitor detected the 1st vm at 2gb...6gb remaining.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> nperry: looks like not, you can use the server kernel though its enabled by default
[20:09] <mdg_> anthony__: I like ubuntu to - it's a different road for sure - when they linux is not windows - its for sure a whole new world, but its doable.
[20:09] <nperry> !dontzap | mbeierl
[20:10] <PetterDK> hmm i only have a mac on the side.. would that do? it should be, as its build on a linux distro.
[20:10] <PetterDK> did i just answer my own question?
[20:10] <Beezie> nperry, if 32bit actually does address 8Gb i might hold off 64bit ubuntu til January :)
[20:10] <mbeierl> nperry: sorry - that's killing the X server, I'm asking how to turn off control-alt-delete bringing up the "do you want to log out" window
[20:10] <nperry> ActionParsnip: As i know it was a blueprint for livecd to have PAE enabled by default for karmic
[20:11] <crohakon> ActionParsnip, How? And will resetting the x server kill my current session in gnome?
[20:11] <anthony__> mdg: are we looking for a windows driver to use with ndiswrapper?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> crohakon: yes so save your work etc
[20:11] <dAlfa89_> mbeierl, it's in System - Preferences - Keyboard Shortcuts
[20:11] <anthony__> mdg: i'm downloading an .exe now
[20:11] <nacitar> Any else noticed that on 64-bit karmic, if you open up a windows 7 64-bit VM (perhaps other vms, haven't tested) that the indicator applet's floating notifications stop appearing?  Close the VM, and it magically works again.
[20:11] <nperry> mbeierl: Sorry my bad, Keyboard shortcuts for that
[20:11] <lesouvage> Seveas: 00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller is the output but could this be an internal connection?
[20:11] <Beezie> ActionParsnip, so PAE is the reason I can see this amount of ram on a 32bit install?
[20:11] <nacitar> With virtualbox, anyway.
[20:12] <mbeierl> dAlfa89_, nperry: I see it - but how do I disable it?  It's wanting a new shortcut in its place
[20:12] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, the instructions for setting up local DNS cache is telling me to make sure I have "prepend domain name servers: 127.0.0.1" but I'm supposed to have "prepend domain name servers: 8.8.8.8" to use the Google DNS. What do I do?
[20:12] <Seveas> lesouvage, it's the controller chip, so your machine definitely supports usb 2.0
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Beezie: 2^32 will only allow you to access so much ram due to limited address registers
[20:12] <nperry> mbeierl: double click
[20:12] <mdg_> anthony__: I think I found a windows driver - but its in a windows zip...
[20:12] <lesouvage> Seveas: there are 3 USB 1.1 lines
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: you dont need that step
[20:12] <lesouvage> Sevea
[20:12] <PetterDK> Elleen - what would the ssh hostname be?
[20:12] <dAlfa89_> mbeierl, press backspace to clear the shortcut
[20:12] <Beezie> ActionParsnip, thats how i thought i understoood it :)
[20:12] <anthony__> mdg: i have the same downloaded.   what can we do with that?
[20:12] <lesouvage> Seveas: thanks for the help.
[20:12] <nperry> mbeierl: Sorry, mouse click then backspace to disable
[20:12] <mbeierl> nperry: asks for new shortcut/toggles to existing one.  dAlfa89_: just read that - I'm a moron
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: install dnsmasq, change the listening line, restart the dnsmasq service then add 127.0.0.1 as the first DNS server
[20:12] <mbeierl> nperry: dAlfa89_: thanks!
[20:13] <mdg_> I'm downloading now and seeing just what happens
[20:13] <zopiac> when I start up my computer, my sound is always extremely low and muted. anyone know why?
[20:13] <mdg_> anthony__: 32 minutes to download? did it take you that long?
[20:14] <anthony__> mdg: no just a couple of seconds
[20:14] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, I've install dnsmasq... changed the listening line... the last change you are referring to, is that made in my resolv.conf file?
[20:14] <anthony__> mdg: toshiba europe website
[20:14] <mdg_> did you get RTL8192se (xp/vista version?)
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: yes, when you add te line you can test with: dig www.google.com; dig www.google.com     look at the query time lines ;)
[20:15] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, ahhh, think it's all starting to make sense, let me give it a go
[20:15] <anthony__> mdg: got the windows 7 version (running dual boot with windows 7)
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: make sure you add it to the TOP
[20:15] <anthony__> mdg: which one do you think might work?
[20:15] <mdg_> anthony__: you need the windows XP version or RTL8192SE
[20:15] <mistahjc> hey how do you install java on ubuntu
[20:16] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, gotcha... about to save it now. Is there an easy way to restart things or should I just restart my computer?
[20:16] <erUSUL> !java | mistahjc
[20:16] <anthony__> mdg: downloading now.  what should we do after that?
[20:16] <mistahjc> ok
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: this is Linux, not windows. restarts are rare ;)
[20:16] <mdg_> anthony__: can you boot up win 7 and go here to get the zip - all we need when its unzipped is the *.inf file to copy into mint  http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=230&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[20:16] <Younder> mistahjc, i's already installed
[20:16] <lesouvage> Seveas: how do I found out what usb conection is 1.1 and what connection is 2.0? Is there an easy way?
[20:17] <mistahjc> i think its installed but what should i do next
[20:17] <anthony__> mdg: give me a minute
[20:17] <mistahjc> yeah i just installed it
[20:17] <mdg_> anthony__: okay
[20:17] <Seveas> lesouvage, plug a device in and check lsusb / lshal output
[20:17] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, ya ya I know... just don't know the commands to restart all these things. :)
[20:17] <Teleken> can anyone in here help me with rebuilding an LVM config so I can get my system to boot again? :)
[20:17] <Younder> mistahjc, You wnat eclipe, go to the end of the progam menu and select programming center. The select eclipe from that.
[20:18] <Younder> eclipse
[20:18] <mistahjc> eclipe from program center
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: are the digs taking 0ms ?
[20:18] <jiffe98> if I have a file of type 'x86 boot sector', how do I make an iso of that?
[20:18] <mistahjc> ubuntu softwere center
[20:19] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, just to make sure, I have two lines at the top of my resolve.conf file 1) Domain. sc.rr.com 2)Search sc.rr.com... then the nameserver lines. Do I put the 127.0.0.1 at the VERY top or just as the first nameserver
[20:19] <Teleken> specifically how do I get rid of an "unknown device" in a volume group?
[20:19] <Younder> mistahjc, sorry I am Norwegian, so I have to translate menu items as I go
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: at the very top of the file so that it IS the first nameserver
[20:19] <mistahjc> o ok
[20:19] <mistahjc> im scandavian
[20:20] <anthony__> mdg: this one tells me 20 mins. thanks for all your help,
[20:20] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, gonna give it a shot
[20:20] <anthony__> mdg: when i get the .inf file, where do i copy it in mint? what else will i do?
[20:20] <mdg_> anthony__: mine finally downloaded in mint, but I could nothing with it
[20:20] <Teleken> anyone?  I have a physical volume "unknown device" that I need to remove from a volume group, but because it's "unknown device" I can't find an LVM command that allows me to remove it.
[20:21] <erUSUL> !mint | anthony__
[20:21] <mdg_> anthony__: you also need to get ndiswrapper and ndisgtk instaslled before we get to that step
[20:21] <mistahjc> its going
[20:22] <biabia> anyone use open office
[20:22] <anli_> Is there a way to configure ubuntu to always show files and directories as "compact"?
[20:22] <biabia> wondering if the most recent version saves and opens .docx
[20:22] <talkhouli> hello guys, I am having a problem with the sound server, suddenly I lost sound and I don't want to reboot to get it back. Is there a way to restart the sound server?
[20:22] <anthony__> mdg: thanks again. sorry to chud things up. i could try straight ubuntu, would i not have the same problem?
[20:22] <mdg_> anthony__: I found a post about installing ndiswrapper without internet...
[20:23] <erUSUL> talkhouli: start-pulseaudio-x11
[20:23] <mdg_> anthony__: you would have the exact same problem
[20:24] <mdg_> anthony__: we are getting there
[20:24] <Seveas> Teleken, can you pastebin the output of pvdisplay
[20:24] <zopiac> when I start up my computer, my sound is always extremely low and muted. anyone know why?
[20:24] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, 1 msec
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: then dig it again
[20:24] <talkhouli> erUSUL, command not found
[20:24] <anthony__> mdg: i was just told that support can;t be provided for mint..... but you've been very supportive, and please hang in there with me
[20:24] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, my computer is a dinosaur (1 msec)
[20:24] <LinuksGR> :)
[20:24] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, actually it was 46 first, then 1 sec
[20:25] <LinuksGR> #..
[20:25] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, several times all say 1msec... that's good though right? Don't know what I was getting before the change, can't get much better though right?
[20:25] <CarlFK> where is the mysql admin user/pw stored?  there is a file somewhere
[20:25] <xopah> hello guys, who should I talk to about a strange WLAN card connetion issue?
[20:25] <mdg_> anthony__: once you have downloaded and unzipped the windows driver and copy the *.inf (not sure what the name will be - look in a directory called "drivers" and there should be three files - you want the *.inf file.  Then reboot into your installed Mint so we can grab ndiswrapper and ndisgtk from the live USB (unless you are using it for the windows driver).
[20:26] <scottandmonique> anyone using Media Tomb cant see from xbox360 but ok from PC
[20:26] <Teleken> Seveas: can't get to the machine to get a copy, but what happened is I accidentally toasted an empty drive that was a part of the LV group while trying to do a badblocks scan - so because it can't find it it won't load ANY part of the volume group at all.  So pvdisplay is showing "can't find device with uuid" then "can't find all physical volumes for Volume group"
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: saved time :) a LOT of data online is DNS stuff, if we can reduce it the web will be faster
[20:26] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, does it take awhile for the DNS cache to build up? Is that going to eat up a bunch of memory? I only have 1GB (running ubuntu netbook) on a netbook
[20:26] <Teleken> Seveas: so what I need to do is remove the record of that drive from being a part of the volume group
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: not sure but i havent noticed any issues on my desktop after 2 weeks uptime
[20:27] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, I use Mac for my work work, use my ubuntu netbook for casual surfing, etc.
[20:27] <Teleken> Seveas: and because I toasted the data on the drive it can't find any information to know how to remove it from the LVG
[20:27] <anthony__> mdg:  wait. should i boot into the installed mint, or from the usb after getting the windows file?
[20:28] <Seveas> Teleken, pvremove?
[20:28] <scottandmonique> media tomb user help required
[20:28] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, guess I'll find out! I really appreciate the help big time. You've been one of the most useful guys I've come across on IRC
[20:28] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, or "helpful" would be the more appropraite terms I suppose. :)
[20:28] <mdg_> anthony__: I hope I didn't just confuse you - boot installed mint (not from the live USB), but will need the live USB after you boot.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: glad to help. Thanks :D
[20:28] <LinuksGR> pizza rlz world !
[20:28] <LinuksGR> =)
[20:29] <anthony__> mdg: got it.  we have another 12 mins or so
[20:29] <mistergibson> is there a channel for networking issues alone?
[20:29] <mdg_> anthony__: okay
[20:29] <Teleken> Seveas: pvremove won't work because it can't find any data on the partition of the disk that it's expecting.
[20:29] <xopah> Could someone please point me in a direction where someone could help me with a WLAN and a multiple SSID Network Issue?
[20:29] <Teleken> it was /dev/md0 - pvremove /dev/md0 just complains that it can't find any data.
[20:29] <Younder> mistergibson, try #upstart
[20:29] <mistergibson> thanks
[20:29] <Teleken> if I could remove by UUID that may work, but none of the commands seem to accept it?
[20:30] <froobloops_> how do i get grub off of a netbook w/ no optical drive
[20:30] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, does this mean (just out of curiousity) that my ISP cannot see anything I'm doing from this computer? Just Google can?
[20:30] <Seveas> Teleken, pvremove -f? vgreduce?
[20:30] <xopah> :join #network
[20:31] <Bsims>  I can't record any audio but the speakers work any ideas, I've fiddled with all teh settings I just get a hiss
[20:31] <mdg_> anthony__: I think the trick will be getting mint to see the live USB as a source in Synaptic...
[20:31] <Bsims>  I even tried another audio port
[20:31] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, or is that completely different... as in I would still have to surf from a proxy server?
[20:31] <froobloops_> can't get ubuntu on my netbook sad face
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> mikebuntu: all your traffic will hit them. You just arent using them to change names into IP addresses
[20:32] <Guest42702> have a CD/DVD Creator or Brasero ... i can't copy a freaking DVD due to copy protection .. is there a FREE program out there for Ubunto .. like Decryptor for Windows?
[20:32] <ueu001> What does it mean to triage bugs ?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> !illegal | Guest42702
[20:32] <mikebuntu> ActionParsnip, ahhh, that's right.. DNS is just resolving the names - networking 101 (that was almost 10 years ago) :)
[20:32] <mdg_> anthony__: actually, I think we can use your ubuntu computer to generate a script to download to a USB and then transfers..
[20:33] <anthony__> mdg: cool
[20:33] <Guest42702> ubottu ..yes sir, Mr. Bot!
[20:33] <mistergibson> #upstart not exactly it
[20:33] <Younder> ueu001, you have bugs that will hopefully dissapear in the final version
[20:33] <Seveas> Teleken, vgreduce --remove-missing sounds like something that may work?
[20:33] <Teleken> pvremove wouldn't work because it can't find the physical volume descriptor, vgreduce wouldn't work because it seems to only work on consistent volumes, but vgreduce --removemissing may have fixed it
[20:33] <froobloops_> stupid grub
[20:33] <ueu001> Younder: Does it mean that the bugs are being worked on ?
[20:33] <mdg_> anthony__: I'll research those steps while we wait for the download to complete and you unzip the file etc.
[20:34] <mistergibson> ok, anyone have experience with the various vpn server packages and want to make a recommendation - not a how-to question, more like a what's-best question
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | mistergibson
[20:34] <iceroot> mistergibson: vpnclient (cisco)
[20:34] <Teleken> Seveas: yes, thank you, vgreduce --removemissing fixed it.  So let me get this straight.  If you toast the boot sector (or bad blocks occur) on a drive that is a part of an LVG, the ENTIRE LVG will not mount which can cause your system to not boot??
[20:34] <guntbert> ueu001: triage is part of the handling process, like confirmation, ...., assignment
[20:34] <mistergibson> not using cisco, but thanks
[20:35] <daniel11> is it possible to play modern warfare 2 on ubuntu 9.10 without any major problems?
[20:35] <Younder> I am having trouble installing pygdk
[20:35] <xopah> Someone please help me with a strange Wlan problem!
[20:35] <mistergibson> ... and server, not client
[20:35] <needhelp1> i have a question, when i charge my laptop batter and when its done, i unplug it and it always says "Battery Discharging" ... what does this mean?
[20:35] <ueu001> Okay Thanks
[20:35] <spilakviktor> I have got a little problem
[20:35] <spilakviktor> because my icons move in my taskbar
[20:35] <daniel11> Please tell me
[20:36] <JoeSomebody> Any programs like speedfan for ubuntu?
[20:36] <spilakviktor> It is a very bad thing.
[20:36] <Seveas> Teleken, I'm too much of an lvm noob to be able to answer that :)
[20:36] <dAlfa89_> needhelp1, Means that the battery is going down, because it's in use
[20:36] <xopah> How do I get help here? - Please help me.
[20:36] <jrib> xopah: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:36] <needhelp1> dAlfa89_: so thats normal?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> xopah: no one can help you as you havent explained your issue
[20:36] <spilakviktor> so that is normal?
[20:36] <dAlfa89_> needhelp1, of course, nothing to worry about
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> xopah: just ask, don't ask to ask, its silly
[20:36] <guntbert> needhelp1: if you use the computer without AC charger the power comes from the battery and hence it gets discharged
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> spilakviktor: do you lock them?
[20:37] <spilakviktor> yes
[20:37] <daniel11> is it possible to play modern warfare 2 on ubuntu 9.10 without any major problems?
[20:37] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, of course
[20:37] <skyl> I have FF and epiphany browser... what's another browser (graphical with JS) that I can install with the package manager?
[20:37] <needhelp1> is there anything i should install to help protect my battery from overcharging or anything? for ubuntu
[20:37] <needhelp1> or out of the box ubuntu should work?
[20:37] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, but if I have my screen rotate, because I have tablet pc
[20:37] <scottandmonique> daniel you willfind it hard to play properly at all even
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> daniel11: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=18348
[20:37] <JoeSomebody> Any programs like speedfan for ubuntu? or mobo temperature monitor even?
[20:37] <skyl> needhelp1, I've had good luck with that
[20:37] <jrib> needhelp1: should be fine
[20:37] <Seveas> JoeSomebody, lm_sensors, gkrellm
[20:38] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, so I don't realy understand this
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> skyl: chromium if you add the PPA, Arora is good too
[20:38] <JoeSomebody> Seveas, thx
[20:38] <xopah> jrib actionparsnip: Thanks. I can connect to WLAN I can search for WLAN and I use a WLAN right now. Though I can not connect to my own WLAN where it is setup with multiple SSIDs (one unencrypted, one WPA encryption) my Hardware is a HP mini 5101 with a broadcom chip.
[20:38] <daniel11> that is very bad... thanks for answears.
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> skyl: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[20:39] <needhelp1> so what would you recomend i install?
[20:39] <mneptok> skyl: midori
[20:39] <daniel11> Hmmm...
[20:39] <hippo> yamon
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> spilakviktor: unless the table is square, if you set the icons for a rectangular screen it will move the icon
[20:39] <Bubba_> Hey!
[20:39] <mistahjc> ok its done j=know what do i do
[20:40] <Bubba_> says I have 15 security upgrades, but It fails when I run "apt-get upgrade" ?? what to do?
[20:40] <sixtila> i installed a 32 bit ubuntu - however i feel i have a 64 bit computer - is it possible to check??
[20:40] <mistahjc> i have eclipse know how do i install java and yes i have sunjava
[20:40] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, but my icons are admited
[20:40] <hippo> holycow
[20:40] <qubozik> bubba: what error do you recieve exactly?
[20:40] <guntbert> Bubba_: begin with sudo apt-get update - the sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:40] <guntbert> *then
[20:41] <daniel11> how can i check what video card i use?
[20:41] <xopah> any clues?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Bubba_: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    use: http://pastebin.com to give the output
[20:41] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, they don't keep my order
[20:42] <daniel11> hm??
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> spilakviktor: thats all i can advise. I dont use "icons" so much
[20:42] <mdg_> anthony__: how you coming?
[20:42] <mistahjc> how do install java on my ubuntu 9.10
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> !java | mistahjc
[20:42] <anthony__> mdg: thanks. still 5 minutes. sorry
[20:42] <mistahjc> i did that
[20:43] <mistahjc> i have sunjava and eclipse what do i do next
[20:43] <mdg_> anthony__: not a problem - I got the steps for generating a script - I had it backwards - we start from the installed mint to generate the script
[20:43] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, ok! It's a solution, but I use tomboy, information area and a callendar
[20:43] <Seveas> mistahjc, learn C++? :)
[20:43] <Bubba_> guntbert:, yes I ran update first, and got:  http://pastebin.com/m177e3438 on "upgrade"
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> daniel11: sudo lshw -C display
[20:43] <Stereocaulon> How do I install the 32bits(!) libstdc++ library on a 64-bits ubuntu karmic?
[20:44] <[[[-ArGuZ-]]]> HOLA
[20:44] <[[[-ArGuZ-]]]> hi
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: you can download the deb, extract it with: dpkg -x file.deb   then copy the file to /usr/lib32
[20:44] <mdg_> anthony__: we won't need the live USB after all
[20:44] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, so I don't really understand why move my icons because when I used windows it wasen't problem
[20:44] <qubozik> Stereocaulon: libstdc++-compat ?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: you may find it is installed if you install ia32-libs
[20:44] <anthony__> mdg: cool.
[20:44] <skyl> hey, thanks ActionParsnip , chromium looks pretty awesome
[20:44] <mistahjc> seveas what is the next step
[20:45] <xopah> My issue is where I can not connect to a Wlan where it has Multiple SSIDs I can connect to WLAN. I can search for WLAN and I use a WLAN right now. Though I can not connect to my own WLAN where it is setup with multiple SSIDs (one unencrypted mac blocked, one WPA encrypted) my Hardware is a HP mini 5101 with a broadcom chip. any clues how to solve this problem?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> spilakviktor: what windows does or doesnt do is moot
[20:45] <Seveas> mistahjc, profit?
[20:45] <mistahjc> profit what
[20:45] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, I have installed ia32-libs, but cannot find the libstdc++.so.5 anywhere
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> skyl: it is, uses a hell of a lot less ram than firefox too
[20:45] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, the 32 bits version that is...
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: then grab the 32bit deb and away you go
[20:45] <spilakviktor> windows 7
[20:45] <mdg_> anthony__: once we have installed ndiswrapper and ndisgtk - we can use mints wifi GUI to install the *.inf file
[20:45] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, windows 7
[20:45] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, but I hate windows
[20:45] <skyl> woot!  pretty fast (though I can't live w/o firebug, etc)
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> spilakviktor: doesnt make any difference at all
[20:46] <mistahjc> what should i do next
[20:46] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, pardon for the intrusion, but where could I find the deb for that?
[20:46] <crohakon> What benefit is there in upgrading to 9.10 from 9.04?
[20:46] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, because it is very slowly and I have got lot of problem
[20:46] <guntbert> Bubba_: did you run something like a "partial upgrade" or so?
[20:46] <Bubba_> nope
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> spilakviktor: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[20:46] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, so I decided I would use ubuntu
[20:46] <BlueG> I have been experiencing random freezes. Usually, the cursor still moves, but nothing else works. I can't swap to a virtual terminal, numlock won't work, and I can't ssh in or even get an answer to ping. Suspecting problems with my i845 graphics chipset, I tried disabling DRI, using XAA instead of EXA, and turning on NoAccel, but none of that worked. Any suggestions?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> spilakviktor: thats fine
[20:46] <Bubba_> just "sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade"
[20:46] <mistergibson> anyone know the diff between strongswan and openswan ipsec stuff?
[20:47] <mistahjc> how do i install java on ubuntu 9.10 when i have sunjava and eclipse
[20:47] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, yes, It was a good choise so I have used ubuntu for 2 months
[20:47] <mistergibson> !ipsec
[20:47] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, I love this system
[20:47] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, I have a thinkpad
[20:47] <Stereocaulon> mistahjc, just install the JDK from Sun and you should be running nicely
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Stereocaulon: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/libstdc++6  download the 32bit deb, extract the files to home and rename the relevant file to.5 as it will most likely be .6
[20:48] <mistahjc> how do i install jdk
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> spilakviktor: i dont know what to suggest
[20:48] <philippe> zz
[20:48] <Solpex`> sudo apt-get install jdk
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> !info jdk
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> !find jdk
[20:48] <spilakviktor> ActionParsnip, ok, but I thanks your help
[20:49] <MishaPFC> hello all..i have problem with eth0..anybody can help?
[20:49] <Solpex`> tidy :)
[20:49] <Stereocaulon> ActionParsnip, thx for the link!
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> mistahjc: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[20:49] <mistahjc> ty
[20:49] <Solpex`> mistahjc may I query you ?
[20:49] <Bubba_> ActionParsnip,  guntbert : so does that mean there is no security upgrade or did it fail?
[20:49] <djdb4night> hallo
[20:50] <mistahjc> idk what does that mean
[20:50] <Solpex`> msg you / query
[20:50] <mistahjc> it says i have the latest verson allready
[20:50] <xopah> My issue is where I can not connect to a Wlan where it has Multiple SSIDs I can connect to WLAN. I can search for WLAN and I use a WLAN right now. Though I can not connect to my own WLAN where it is setup with multiple SSIDs (one unencrypted mac blocked, one WPA encrypted) my Hardware is a HP mini 5101 with a broadcom chip. any clues how to solve this problem?
[20:50] <BlueG> Well, I can reboot with the SysRq magic keys, but that is it.
[20:51] <anthony__> mdg: listen. thanks again for all your help.  we hav a minute or so to go
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> Bubba_: we need the address of your pastebin
[20:51] <Bubba_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m177e3438
[20:51] <mdg_> anthony__: your welcome!  I'm learning too - how to help troubleshoot wifi :)
[20:52] <mdg_> anthony__: I mean helping people troubleshoot wifi :)
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Bubba_: that means the packages are there but the deps they need are not created yet so they get held back. When the deps can be met, they will be installed
[20:52] <xopah> mdg_ could you please help me.. im having problems with my wifi..
[20:52] <Bubba_> ActionParsnip: and that is automatic? nothing to do right now?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Bubba_: it will install when its all ready automatically for you
[20:52] <mdg_> xopah: what kind of problems - what kind of wifi adapter?
[20:53] <Bubba_> ActionParsnip: allright, I see. thx for your help!
[20:53] <MishaPFC> hello all..i have problem with eth0..anybody can help?
[20:53] <m_tadeu> hi....which /dev/xxx should be the microphone?
[20:53] <iceroot> !details | MishaPFC
[20:53] <anthony__> mdg: i have the file. i'm looking for .inf file ?
[20:53] <xopah> mdg_Broadcom on a HP 5101 can't remember what number it has.. I cant connect to a WLAN where it has multiple SSID's
[20:54] <mdg_> anthony__: yes - go into the drivers for windows XP and find one that ends with .inf
[20:54] <shinran666> i need help
[20:55] <shinran666> can i get an assist
[20:55] <iceroot> !ask | shinran666
[20:55] <mdg_> anthony__: could be something like rlt8192SE.inf or something
[20:55] <BlueG> Is there any easy way to identify the beginning of the most recent bootup in /var/log/messages so that I can tell by what is immediately before it what led up to the system crashing?
[20:55] <anthony__> mdg: not seeing .inf   could it be .sys?
[20:55] <MishaPFC> sorry..i deleted my network adapter and i cant install it again..i am new in linux...how i can do it?
[20:55] <shinran666> well i am trying to download and install fedora 12 on a separate system and i cant seem to do it right
[20:55] <shinran666> what do i do
[20:55] <mdg_> xopah: which version of ubuntu and has it connected before?
[20:55] <amites> Any ideas why this bash alias would come up "command not found"?? I've run source ~/.bashrc several times, and can copy and paste the command into a prompt and have it run
[20:55] <amites> uptimeshare='sh /home/alvin/workspace/timeshare-update.sh'
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> shinran666: fedora isnt supported here
[20:56] <amites> oops - meant to get that in 1 line
[20:56] <jrib> amites: did you write "alias" anywhere?
[20:56] <c0rwin_> Is there exist IRC channel for eeepc users of Ubuntu?
[20:56] <amites> jrib: ROFL!!!! nope
[20:56] <mdg_> anthony__: its the .inf one - there are usually three files  - one is .sys and one is .c? and then there is .inf
[20:56] <amites> jrib: thank you
[20:56] <jrib> amites: no problem
[20:57] <amites> jrib: think I'll be chuckling about that one for a while, spent a few days loking at it on and off
[20:57] <jiffe98> if I have a file of type 'x86 boot sector', is there a way to convert that to an iso?
[20:57] <Younder> am having problems installling pygtk
[20:57] <anthony__> mdg: there are three files in xp drivers:"security catalog"/ "setup information"-probably the one, and ""miniport driver"
[20:57] <mistahjc> i need help installing java to i installed all of the sunjava things and eclipse what do i do next to get my java working the site im testing it at is called runescape and it says i dont have java yet
[20:57] <jrib> !java > mistahjc
[20:57] <xopah> mdg_ Im logging in from my workstation for experimenting later on... - 9.10 proprietary driver installed - It has worked but not stable. It works now also sometimes but very unstable.
[20:57] <Younder> ubuntu karmic
[20:57] <crohakon> What benefit is there in upgrading to 9.10 from 9.04?
[20:57] <iceroot> mistahjc: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[20:58] <lachouffe> Hi, I encounter issue playing divx on VLC: blue and pink color
[20:58] <jrib> mistahjc: install sun-java6-plugin or whatever package ubottu tells you for the plugin
[20:58] <Younder> from earleier gentoo
[20:58] <duncan_> hey guys, I've un-installed network-manager-gnome from my main system and can't work out how to network ready again. How do I do it?
[20:58] <lachouffe> is it a known issue ?
[20:58] <mdg_> anthony__: "security catalog?"
[20:58] <mistahjc> i did that allready
[20:58] <jrib> Younder: what problem exactly? pastebni
[20:58] <mdg_> anthony__: no directories that say "drivers"
[20:58] <anthony__> mdg: yeah
[20:58] <mistahjc> i have the latest verson it says
[20:58] <jrib> !who | mistahjc
[20:58] <anthony__> mdg: the directories say 91-92 drivers and contain those three files
[20:58] <StaticPhilly> evening all, can anyone tell me, with apt pinning, the priority setting, is it better to have this as low as i can or as high as i can for a package i really dont want to update
[20:59] <anders233> Hi
[20:59] <mdg_> anthony__: let me see if I can undelete the zip and check on my windows machine
[20:59] <mistahjc> the terminal
[20:59] <mistahjc> says it
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> duncan_: what sort of connection do you use?
[20:59] <anthony__> mdg: sorry,
[20:59] <anders233> can i play modern warfare 2 with a VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9600M GT]  video card?
[20:59] <peloverde> I grabbed xz-utils from debian unstable to do a simple backport to karmic in my ppa and launchpad is freaking out that there are two tar files.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> !ot | anders233:
[20:59] <jrib> mistahjc: no one can help you if you do not address the person whose directions you are following and replying to (we have no idea who you are talking to)
[21:00] <anders233> k
[21:00] <xopah_> mdg_ back so I could better try new settings.
[21:00] <duncan_> ActionParsnip, both wired and wireless
[21:00] <mistahjc> th terminal said i have the latest verson of it
[21:00] <mistahjc> the
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> duncan_: run: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces and configure the wired LAN there
[21:00] <jrib> mistahjc: stop repeating what you already said.  Who are you talking to
[21:00] <mistahjc> you
[21:00] <mistahjc> jrib
[21:00] <jrib> mistahjc: if you want to talk to me, then put "jrib" in the front
[21:00] <duncan_> ActionParsnip, what are the chances that I'll be able to do that manually?
[21:01] <iceroot> !who | mistahjc
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> duncan_: here is an example from my wired subnet: http://pastebin.com/f409e153b
[21:01] <jrib> mistahjc: pastebin the command you ran and the output
[21:01] <mistahjc> jrib ok
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> duncan_: 100%
[21:01] <andruk> how do i change my cursor?  im in gnome, and i just installed KDE, (even though im currently not using it) and now i cant change my cursor away from the stupid KDE cursor.
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> duncan_: you need to set an IP which is suitable for YOUR subnet, thats just mine
[21:01] <mistahjc> i dont have it anymore
[21:01] <jrib> mistahjc: then run it again
[21:01] <mistahjc> jrib w8 yes i do its
[21:01] <aaaaa> hi!
[21:02] <mistahjc> jribsudo  apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[21:02] <mistahjc> [sudo] password for jordan:
[21:02] <mistahjc> Reading package lists... Done
[21:02] <mistahjc> Building dependency tree
[21:02] <mistahjc> Reading state information... Done
[21:02] <FloodBot1> mistahjc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <mistahjc> sun-java6-jdk is already the newest version.
[21:02] <Blaccent> hey
[21:02] <jrib> mistahjc: use a pastebin like paste.ubuntu.com in the future please.  That's not what I told you to install.  I asked you to install "sun-java6-plugin"
[21:02] <duncan_> ActionParsnip, just a moment
[21:02] <mistahjc> my bad
[21:02] <Beezie> Hi.  I know what my video card is(sudo lshw -C video) but how to tell how much RAM is on the video card?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> duncan_: once you get connected using that method, you can use the repos to reinstall whichever network management app you desire, you can then remove the text and reboot
[21:02] <anthony__> mdg: searched all the files, no .inf that i can find, what about you?
[21:03] <mistahjc> jrib so what do i type in the terminal
[21:03] <BluesKaj> andruk, open kde and system settings/keyboard and mouse/mouse/cursor themes
[21:03] <mistahjc> jrib im sorry btw
[21:03] <jrib> mistahjc: install the sun-java6-plugin package, use whatever method you want
[21:03] <darrenlooby> Hi everyone
[21:03] <jrib> !software > mistahjc
[21:03] <Hekos> hey, im trying to change /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/panel to awn but it gets changed back on reboot .. what can i do ?
[21:03] <mdg_> anthony__: LOL - still trying to redownload
[21:03] <darrenlooby> Does anyone know, if you can mount all USB drives that are currently connected? CLI style
[21:04] <anthony__> mdg: so sorry.
[21:04] <jrib> darrenlooby: sure, but why?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Beezie: nvidia-settings   will tell you
[21:04] <barnes> Whats the best way to back up a Ubuntu system so I can format my hdd and reinstall it?
[21:04] <jrib> !backup | barnes
[21:04] <xopah_> mdg_ : any clues ?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> !best | barnes
[21:04] <jrib> !cloning | barnes
[21:04] <ZykoticK9> Beezie, if it's an Nvidia card, use nvidia-settings will tell you how much RAM it has (i have no idea how to get this info if it isn't nvidia)
[21:04] <mdg_> anthony__: 16.4 mb?
[21:04] <andruk> BluesKaj: do you know what command i can use to bring up that window...im doing a bunch of stuff in gnome at the moment, and id really rather not logout and login to kde just to change the stupid cursor
[21:04] <bonez2046> I notice version 10.x.x is out.. should I upgrade? any risks or is it pretty stable?
[21:04] <ManDay> Is there a way to restart X without logging out?
[21:04] <Blaccent> Anyone able to help with HD video lag?
[21:04] <Beezie> ZykoticK9, its a geforce 7950 :)
[21:04] <jrib> bonez2046: there's no such version as 10.x.x and it's not out
[21:04] <nyc-h0st_> ok weird...ever since upgrading to karmic it wont resolve domains like 'mydomain.local' any ideas? its pointed at the correct dns server and it does resolutions through nslookup but not otherwise
[21:05] <mdg_> xopah_: you are using ssh?
[21:05] <anthony__> mdg: yeah
[21:05] <darrenlooby> jrib, I have a computer set up that I connect to every now and then - and, it has a USB drive that doesn't mount when I WOL.
[21:05] <duncan_> ActionParsnip, so if I use the IP address that I can see now, with the same final number group as in your example - should that work?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> bonez2046: 10.x.x of what?
[21:05] <ZykoticK9> Beezie, nvidia-settings then select GPU on left side
[21:05] <mdg_> anthony__: I found it - downloading now. :)
[21:05] <bonez2046> ubuntu? what else?
[21:05] <bonez2046> Ubuntu!
[21:05] <jrib> darrenlooby: you just use mount as usual: sudo mount <block device> <mount point>
[21:05] <Beezie> ZykoticK9, excellent!  that worked.. I wanna sell it second hand and buy a modern nvidia card. :)
[21:05] <xopah_> mdg_: for you to connect to? - For what?
[21:05] <crohakon> What benefit is there in upgrading to 9.10 from 9.04?
[21:05] <BluesKaj> andruk, dunno , ai haven't used gnome in a while
[21:06] <bonez2046> 10.04
[21:06] <jrib> crohakon: newer software
[21:06] <ManDay> !ubuntu
[21:06] <mdg_> xopah_: oh, you said virtual machine right?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> duncan_: whatever network address you use, change my example to suit yours. So if you use 192.168.100.x instead of 192.168.0.x then you need to change the addresses in the file to suit
[21:06] <jrib> !notes | crohakon
[21:06] <darrenlooby> jrib, I also sometimes plug a random USB mem stick in - so, I'd like to be able to just blanket tell it to mount any USB drive that is connected.
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> duncan_: most home grade routers use 192.168.0.x but its not ALWAYS the case
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> !10.04 | bonez2046
[21:06] <crohakon> jrib, what are the chances of something going wrong and me losing everything?
[21:06] <andruk> BluesKaj: thats not what i meant.  what is the terminal command for bringing up the system settings in kde?
[21:06] <bonez2046> ActionParsnip: I just ran 'update-manager -d' on my other machine and it's now upgrading to 10.04.. just asking who else has upgraded and how it went?
[21:06] <jrib> crohakon: unlikely but nonzero so have backups
[21:06] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, the only proper local subnet is 10.42.0.0/16 :)
[21:07] <duncan_> ActionParsnip, okay, we understand each other now. Great, see you soon one way or the other...
[21:07] <mistahjc> jrib i have it
[21:07] <jrib> crohakon: erm, non-one I guess :)
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Seveas: any class C network will do ;)
[21:07] <mistahjc> java 6
[21:07] <jrib> mistahjc: I didn't say "java 6"
[21:07] <mistahjc> jrib sun-java6-plugin package
[21:07] <Seveas> ActionParsnip, tss, networks without the answer do not count :P
[21:07] <mdg_> anthony__: while we are waiting for my download, we can generate the download script for synaptic
[21:07] <jrib> bonez2046: 10.04 is not released.  It's under development
[21:07] <jrib> mistahjc: restart firefox
[21:08] <mdg_> anthony__: go to your mint maching and start up Synaptic
[21:08] <anthony__> mdg: i will boot now
[21:08] <mistahjc> jrib ok brb
[21:08] <mdg_> anthony__: okay
[21:08] <darrenlooby> jrib, I also sometimes plug a random USB mem stick in - so, I'd like to be able to just blanket tell it to mount any USB drive that is connected.
[21:09] <bonez2046> jrib:  so when i run update-manager -d and it say Ubuntu new release 10.04 is available, I should disregard and not upgrade?
[21:09] <mistahjc> jrib thank you so much man ure the best
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> bonez2046: -d means development
[21:09] <bonez2046> or oh.. thanks ActionParsnip
[21:09] <jrib> bonez2046: you should know what commands you run :)
[21:10] <Spec> does ubuntu use a password (by default) for securing single user mode (recovery mode)
[21:10] <bonez2046> jrib: I just know enough to be dangerous.. yes, I need to better know what commands I run
[21:10] <Spec> or is that just drop-you-into-root-shell-magic
[21:10] <jugglerbry> hi all.  Wubi install, dual boot.  Has been working fine up until now, but am now not able to boot.  Getting the grub menu, but then some text but no error code.  Anyone help ?
[21:10] <racecar56> how do i start a secondary X server? i did it once before but i forgot
[21:10] <Arimoto> Spec: I think the latter
[21:10] <Spec> Arimoto: shame.
[21:10] <Blaccent> Was wondering if anyone was able to help me figure out a lagging issue with HD videos
[21:10] <jrib> Spec: the latter
[21:10] <Hekos> try2: how do i remove gnome-panel ?
[21:10] <BluesKaj> andruk, dunno that either , I don't normally use the terminal for graphical apps
[21:10] <jrib> darrenlooby: is there a reason you don't just mount all devices after sda (or however many disks you have)
[21:10] <anthony__> mdg: okay, synaptic opened
[21:10] <mdg_> xopah_: logging into workstation - I thought you meant via ssh or something
[21:10] <racecar56> Blaccent: does your video card fail/did you install drivers for it
[21:11] <jiffe98> if I have a file of type 'x86 boot sector', is there a way to convert that to an iso?
[21:11] <darrenlooby> jrib, most likely 'cause I don't know what I'm doing haha
[21:11] <Blaccent> racecar56, yeah I'm using nvidia driver 173
[21:11] <racecar56> Blaccent: what kind of card it is
[21:11] <jrib> darrenlooby: I don't know of an easy-one-command way to do what you ask
[21:11] <racecar56> Blaccent: *is it
[21:11] <Blaccent> racecar56, BFG Nvidia 9600GTS
[21:11] <darrenlooby> jrib, looks like I found something that I need to learn much more about then
[21:12] <mdg_> anthony__: okay search for ndiswrapper, ndisgtk and one more -- something common.  You want to right click to select them, but do not press "Apply" - let me know
[21:12] <thiebaude> Blaccent, did you use the recommended driver?
[21:12] <darrenlooby> jrib, just looking around the ubuntu wiki now
[21:12] <racecar56> Blaccent: why are you using 173 for that card?
[21:12] <thiebaude> 185
[21:12] <jugglerbry> anyone ?
[21:12] <racecar56> Blaccent: i have a 8600GT and i use 185.
[21:12] <Blaccent> thiebaude, 185 causes all videos to lose any red colour
[21:12] <thiebaude> me too racecar56
[21:12] <anthony__> mdg: they are already installed
[21:12] <racecar56> thiebaude: my fan growls :P
[21:12] <thiebaude> 8400 gs here
[21:13] <andruk> BluesKaj: hmph, well google was more helpful than i thought it would be.  the command for kde < 3 is kcontrol, the command for KDE > 4 is systemsettings.  thanks for your help.
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Blaccent: i use the beta 190 on my 6150
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> racecar56, second Xsession on a virtual terminal?  just run "gdmflexiserver" from your first X session - FYI you'll have to log in as a different User
[21:13] <thiebaude> 512 mb video ram
[21:13] <mdg_> anthony__: fabulous! - we are very close then...
[21:13] <Blaccent> same, only 512
[21:13] <anthony__> mdg: thank god!
[21:13] <wrapster> any idea how i can queue downloads in vuze>
[21:13] <anthony__> mdg: i wish i could buy you a beer
[21:13] <mdg_> anthony__: just waiting for my download to finish so I can peruse the zip file
[21:14] <xopah_> mdg_ sorry, no I just changed IRC client Im ready to do what ever changes you might think might help!
[21:14] <mdg_> anthony__: LOL!  A virtual beer will do :)
[21:14] <jrib> darrenlooby: if it wasn't for the "random" thing, you could just list them in your fstab
[21:14] <racecar56> ZykoticK9: i guess i want another gdm to run on :1.
[21:14] <ManDay> How can I make ubuntu (compiz) remember the windows position when I close for the next time I open itß
[21:14] <ManDay> =??
[21:14]  * Beezie DCCs mdg_ a 6-pack...
[21:14] <ZykoticK9> racecar56, yup try flexiserver
[21:14] <Blaccent> ActionParsnip, how would I get the beta driver to test it?
[21:14] <racecar56> ZykoticK9: i tried xinit :1 but it doesn't work as it is acting like i wanted it to use :0
[21:15] <darrenlooby> jrib, cheers for the pointer - I can at least do it with one of them.
[21:15] <mdg_> anthony__: while we are waiting you can familiarize yourself with the wifi driver installer
[21:15] <ZykoticK9> racecar56, from a console i think you can use "startx -- :1" or :0
[21:15] <jrib> darrenlooby: make sure you use uuid
[21:15] <vinpan> dose anyone know why i cant upload pictures to myspace? when i go to the uploader  pictures dont show
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Blaccent: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-graphics-drivers-190-42-in-ubuntu-karmicjauntyintrepidhardy.html
[21:15] <Blaccent> ActionParsnip, awseome, thanks
[21:15] <anthony__> mdg: i tried to run it earlier, how do i start the gui?
[21:16] <arthur__> hello
[21:16] <mdg_> anthony__: not sure what it looks like in mint 8 - go to Menu button > Administration > Windows Wireless Drivers or just double click on the networking icon
[21:16] <mdg_> anthony__: I mean right click on the networking icon
[21:16] <arthur__> i have a problem
[21:17] <mdg_> anthony__: choose "edit configuration"
[21:17] <racecar56> ZykoticK9: that only hacks my computer. i had to force it off.
[21:17] <racecar56> ZykoticK9: >_>
[21:17] <erisco> I have an external drive with a 1GB or so extra partition with software on it. I wish to erase that and turn the entire drive into one NTFS partition. For whatever reason, when I mount the drive I get the software partition... when I look at it in gparted all I see is the unallocated space
[21:17] <vinpan> dose anyone know why i cant upload pictures to myspace? when i go to the uploader  pictures dont show
[21:17] <darrenlooby> jrib, I'm looking at changing the settings via gconf-editor
[21:17] <anthony__> mdg: there is a "hardware drivers" app
[21:17] <erisco> what is going on and how do I reformat the entire drive?
[21:17] <ManDay> How can I make ubuntu (compiz) remember the windows position when I close for the next time I open it?
[21:17] <darrenlooby> jrib, good idea?
[21:17] <racecar56> vinpan: browser is...
[21:17] <racecar56> vinpan: what is the browser
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> erisco: gksu gparted
[21:17] <vinpan> opera and firefox
[21:18] <mdg_> anthony__: I think you have to go through Administartion and then down at the bottom of the apps list it will say something like "windows wireless drivers"
[21:18] <darrenlooby> jrib, if so, as I'm not at it - how do I change the "media_automount" settings via CLI?
[21:18] <racecar56> vinpan: it probably requires something stupid like adobe flash player.
[21:18] <thiebaude> ManDay, i dont think you'll be able to
[21:18] <erisco> Aciid, I am running it as root already
[21:18] <jrib> darrenlooby: you may use gconftool-2
[21:18] <racecar56> vinpan: i can't really help very much
[21:18] <vinpan> i have flash installed
[21:18] <mdg_> anthony__: Administration > Windows Wireless Drivers"
[21:18] <anthony__> mdg:yeah, got it
[21:18] <racecar56> vinpan: ADOBE flash?
[21:18] <Paschu> Hey guys, im sitting next to the router right now and my netbook always looses the wifi connection. whats wrong???
[21:18] <vinpan> yes
[21:18] <h00k> Is there a known bug regarding the wallpaper being selected but not switching?
[21:18] <racecar56> vinpan: k
[21:19] <mdg_> anthony__: see the little dialog box asking for the .inf file?
[21:19] <racecar56> Paschu: your wifi fails like mine?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Paschu: wen it drops run: dmesg | tail
[21:19] <racecar56> Paschu: >_>
[21:19] <Paschu> racecar56: which router do you have?
[21:19] <anthony__> mdg: yeah, i do.  can't find one.  do you see it?
[21:20] <erisco> the other thing is, the device appears to be listed as /dev/sr1 however, gparted sees only /dev/sdf
[21:20] <jofo`> Hello everybody.
[21:20] <racecar56> Paschu: WRT54GL.
[21:20] <jofo`> I'm on an old tower on which I still have an Ubuntu Hardy Heron. The update manager says my system is up-to-date. It does not propose the upgrade to Intrepid Ibex.
[21:20] <anthony__> mdg: never mind. when it is in linux, it shows up as .inf.   let's see if it works!
[21:20] <mdg_> anthony__: once we get from the zip, I will have you put the file on the mint desktop and you use the navigation dialog to the right of where the file name goes to navigate to the desktop
[21:20] <jofo`> On my laptop, I was able to upgrade from Intrepid to Jaunty, then to Karmic, but I don't see what I could do with my Hardy.
[21:20] <Paschu> racecar56: :D But do you know why this aint working?
[21:20] <erisco> it seems that perhaps /dev/sr1 and /dev/sdf are the two partitions?
[21:20] <racecar56> Paschu: it's most definitely because the laptop that has the adapter is so beat up
[21:20] <anthony__> mdg: did that.   are you sure it's xp?
[21:20] <racecar56> Paschu: and it's hard drive failed.
[21:20] <jrib> jofo`: by default LTS releases only propose upgrades to other LTS releases, check update-manager settings
[21:20] <mikejet> Anyone get "lp -o sides=two-sided-short-edge out.pdf" to correctly print out a landscape-mode PDF on both sides of the page? This flips one side 180 degrees. However, the evince pdf viewer corretly prints it out.
[21:20] <jrib> !upgrade | jofo`
[21:21] <bwallen> I'm in the market for a new laptop. What's a good, ubuntu compatible computer in the $500 range?
[21:21] <mdg_> anthony__: yes XP drivers work with ndiswrapper - win7 drivers are too new
[21:21] <jofo`> Ok Thx
[21:21] <Paschu> racecar56: So, what to do? Change to OS or is there a fix or something?
[21:21] <racecar56> Paschu: i don't know
[21:21] <anthony__> mdg: it says "hardware present: yes."
[21:21] <racecar56> Paschu: your guess is as good as mine
[21:21] <Paschu> Damn this problem makes me sick
[21:21] <anthony__> mdg: what do you  think is next?
[21:21] <mdg_> anthony__: that's good - it sees your wifi adapter card :)
[21:21] <racecar56> bwallen: i recommend anything that isn't intel
[21:22] <mdg_> anthony__: does not mean the correct driver is in stalled
[21:22] <thiebaude> racecar56, i agree with that
[21:22] <racecar56> thiebaude: intel sucks
[21:22] <bwallen> racecar56: why does intel suck?
[21:22] <thiebaude> yep until i got my dual amd's
[21:22] <racecar56> not another one... xD
[21:22] <thiebaude> i came back from 7
[21:22] <mdg_> anthony__: I should not have been so quick to delete the first zip file - sorry
[21:22] <racecar56> bwallen: if their chipsets don't run hot, the world doesn't exist
[21:23] <bwallen> racecar56: what's a good amd alternative to the core 2 duo?
[21:23] <anthony__> mdg: i think there's only one possibility with .inf from this file
[21:23] <ikonia> guys - this channels topic is ubuntu support
[21:23] <mdg_> anthony__: so we don't need synaptic because ndiswrapper etc is installed.
[21:23] <racecar56> bwallen: athlon x2 possibly.
[21:23] <thiebaude> sorry ikonia
[21:23] <ikonia> maybe take this to a hardware channel like hardware
[21:23] <Flannel> or #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:24] <thiebaude> yep
[21:24] <anthony__> mdg: should i search another driver?
[21:24] <racecar56> bwallen: i have never used any processors other than a sempron 3100+ and a turion in some laptop i had at one time, so i don't know how good it is
[21:24] <adc> hi, suspend stopped working recently for me, any ideas? how do i debug this
[21:24] <ikonia> racecar56: STOP
[21:24] <anthony__> mdg:ndiswrapper seems to work fine
[21:24] <darrenlooby> jrib, looking good so far - thanks for that :D
[21:24] <mdg_> anthony__: you mean other than rtl8192SE?
[21:24] <kfizz> Anyone here have some experience with grub2? I messed my bootloader up and now I can't boot :(
[21:25] <anthony__> mdg: yeah, or windows 2000 or something?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | kfizz
[21:25] <bwallen> Racecar: Thanks for the help
[21:25] <mdg_> anthony__: you definitely want windows XP - they are the most stable
[21:25] <jugglerbry> (GNUGRUB version 1.97 beta4, "minimal" BASH -like line editing is supported.  for the first word, TAB list possible command completion.  Anywhere else TAB list possible device /file completion.) this is then followed by ssh: grub
[21:25] <jugglerbry>  thats the  whole error following the grub menu
[21:26] <jugglerbry> anyone help ?
[21:26] <bwallen> Does anyone know if HDMI out ports are supported in ubuntu?
[21:26] <racecar56> mdg_: i like ubuntu better thank you very much.
[21:26] <racecar56> mdg_: ;D
[21:26] <anthony__> mdg: o.k.   i have net8192se installed, but not getting a connection.  what do you think?
[21:26] <mdg_> anthony__: did you download zip file name look like 8191_8192_windowszip ....
[21:26] <anthony__> mdg: yeah
[21:27] <sprockets2000> Is there any gui based newsreaders that support SSL without having to use stunnel
[21:27] <mdg_> anthony__: did you get it from the Win7 link or the win2k/winxp/vista link?
[21:27] <racecar56> jugglerbry: bash-like? i thought the 1.x series changed to emacs-like,
[21:27] <anthony__> mdg: the win xp, etc
[21:27] <BooEM> Looking for guide on ssld setup , port forwarding. Beginner here
[21:27] <mdg_> hmmm.....
[21:28] <anthony__> mdg: think it would help to reboot?
[21:28] <mdg_> anthony__: 15 minutes left to download
[21:28] <jugglerbry> racecar56: its a wubi install from within hista, using karmic.
[21:28] <mdg_> anthony__: you can reboot into win7
[21:28] <racecar56> jugglerbry: i definitely can't help, then
[21:28] <jugglerbry> racecar56:just had that error code read out over the phone from the machine the error is iccuring on
[21:29] <racecar56> jugglerbry: i do not do windows much at all, and i don't use wubi
[21:29] <anthony__> mdg: i'm sure that i have the file from the Realtek website that you directed me to, and it is installed with ndiswrapper.
[21:29] <mdg_> anthony__: unless you can see the zip files contents from your mint install
[21:29] <anthony__> mdg: yeah, now i can.... what should i look for?
[21:29] <mdg_> anthony__: we can try a couple troubleshooting things via terminal if you like?
[21:29] <anthony__> mdg: lets do it
[21:29] <sprockets2000> Its a bit crazy that no gui based newsreaders support ssl
[21:30] <racecar56> sprockets2000: why.
[21:30] <mdg_> anthony__: okay first lets try "ifconfig" in a terminal - we are looking for eth0 (that
[21:30] <sprockets2000> because its 2009
[21:30] <racecar56> sprockets2000: so?
[21:30] <xopah_> mdg_ you seam buissy... We'll take it another time..
[21:30] <airwolf> hi all im haveing trubul installing java
[21:30] <racecar56> sprockets2000: who cares? i constantly use the command line to this day.
[21:30] <mdg_> anthony__: eth0 is wire, wlan/wlan0 is wireless interface - what do you get?
[21:30] <sprockets2000> good for you
[21:30] <sprockets2000> and i can too, however
[21:30] <racecar56> sprockets2000: quite useful for old computers.
[21:30] <jugglerbry> racecar56:i installed under wubi to start with, but have since done a proper dual with karmic.  this particular install is on the father-in-laws laptop, and only did wubi for him to try ubuntu out
[21:30] <mdg_> xopah_: sorry about that
[21:30] <sprockets2000> its a bit odd that not one gui based newsreader supports ssl
[21:31] <sprockets2000> without using stunnel
[21:31] <anthony__> mdg: just eth0 and lo/ loopback
[21:31] <airwolf> can some 1 help me with this im new to linux
[21:31] <racecar56> sprockets2000: i just realized i misread what you were saying..
[21:31] <Blaccent> Back, the new driver vers (190) has colour issues aswell
[21:32] <ikonia> sprockets2000: thunderbird news accounts support SSL
[21:32] <mdg_> anthony__: okay that tells me there is no wireless interface setup, so the driver is not installed.
[21:32] <anthony__> mdg: what to do?
[21:32] <sprockets2000> Hopefully klibido or pan will support ssl in the future without having to use third party, thunderbird is text only or does it support binary?
[21:32] <duncan_> I have un-installed network-manager on my main machine. Is there a way I can re-install it from the CD?
[21:32] <racecar56> sprockets2000: thunderbird is gui.
[21:32] <sprockets2000> but is it binary or just text
[21:32] <racecar56> sprockets2000: i don't use it so i don't know
[21:32] <Migi32> hmm, very weird, occasionally I hear this sound from my headset. It sounds a bit like "sss p"
[21:33] <mdg_> anthony__: while I wait for my download to finish, perhaps you can try browsing through the files from the windows zip you downloaded too
[21:33] <ikonia> sprockets2000: news groups are just text, however it's aware of how to combine files with the right plugins
[21:33] <yao_go> looking for a solution on suspend mode in ubuntu hardy. it never work on my acer extensa 4620
[21:33] <anthony__> mdg: yeah. browsed a lot.  there is a file that says 91-92 drivers.
[21:33] <racecar56> !doesn't work | yao_go
[21:33] <mdg_> anthony__: kinda hard to tell you where to look when I'm not sure where we should be looking...
[21:33] <varadero> i have multiple pppoe connection as client activated on ubuntu server 9.10 on every reboot i can ping only one ip from internet like ppp0 ip next time ppp2 ip any ideas ?
[21:33] <emet> whoa
[21:34] <mdg_> anthony__: let me check how much time is left
[21:34] <anthony__> mdg: inside that there are files for vista, and xp, etc.    i chose xp in the driver installer gui, and found an  .inf file and installed that.
[21:34] <mdg_> anthony__: hmm. - my zip download shows smaller size than the download...
[21:35] <mdg_> anthony__: what's the name of the .inf file?
[21:35] <racecar56> mdg_: smaller than the download?
[21:35] <emet> the average house cat can run faster then the fastest human
[21:35] <airwolf> i need help with installing java can some 1 help me please
[21:35] <mdg_> racecar56: I'm thinking my download pooped out. lOL
[21:35] <racecar56> mdg_: i don't get it
[21:35] <racecar56> mdg_: smaller than the download?
[21:35] <anthony__> mdg: net8192se.inf
[21:35] <racecar56> mdg_: it just doesn't make sense to me.
[21:36] <duncan_> Need install help. I have un-installed network-manager on my main machine. Is there a way I can re-install it from the CD?
[21:36] <racecar56> duncan_: debs.
[21:36] <mdg_> racecar56: smaller than the size indicated it would be when the file first started downloading
[21:36] <racecar56> mdg_: the page may be out of date, then.
[21:36] <haydemon> Can somebody explain why all of a sudden I cannot kill a process via System Monitor?
[21:36] <mdg_> racecar56: I'll try and open it and see...
[21:37] <mdg_> anthony__: going to my xp box to check out the zip...
[21:37] <duncan_> racecar56, assuming I find the .dep file on the CD. That doesn't solve dependency issues.
[21:37] <anthony__> mdg: thanks again, but i'm sure i'm using the specified file, may not be the right driver download?
[21:37] <airwolf> i gess no 1 is going to help me
[21:38] <yao_go> ok sorry, the suspend mode doesn't work, cause the computer shows a black screen and i have to remove the battery to get power on.
[21:38] <kfizz> airwolf, have you searched for jaba in synaptic?
[21:38] <kfizz> java*
[21:38] <mdg_> anthony__: it was an invalid download
[21:38] <maple1> i was writing paper on the pc and it was like Bleep Bleep Bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep and then like half of my paper was gone
[21:39] <mdg_> anthony__: at this point, you have no "wireless" interface
[21:39] <racecar56> maple1: writing paper on the pc?
[21:39] <airwolf> yes and ive tryed that but it is not working
[21:39] <mdg_> anthony__: the other options I saw involved "compiling" a driver
[21:39] <racecar56> maple1: O_o i don't get it
[21:39] <anthony__> mdg: thanks so much for all your help,.  i'm out of time.    i think i need to find the right driver, and now i know how to use the gui, so i will try again in the future.   i am going to reboot, now who knows.  hang on
[21:39] <kfizz> airwolf, what errors are you getting? or what's the problem?
[21:39] <ikonia> racecar56: working on a document
[21:39] <mdg_> anthony__: okay
[21:40] <ranjan> hello every body i am having some prolem in login in ubuntu 9.10 i am geting an error msg as  1. Could not update ICEauthority file /root/.ICEauthority
[21:40] <ranjan> 2. There is a problem with configuration server.
[21:40] <ranjan>       (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[21:40] <ranjan> 3. Nautilus could not creat the following required folders: /home/potter/Desktop, /home/potter/.nautilus
[21:40] <ranjan>       Before running Nautilus, please create these folders, or set permissions such that Nautilus can create them.
[21:40] <FloodBot1> ranjan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:40] <ranjan> 4. There was an error starting up the screensaver:
[21:40] <shawn__> g
[21:40] <airwolf> well im not goting any that is the problim
[21:40] <duncan_> I need some help installing a package from cd.
[21:40] <anthony__> mdg: once again, you've been great.  i don't know if i will get to use linux on this machine. i would like to.  will try periodically! but you've earned serious karma points today!!!!!!
[21:40] <ikonia> ranjan: it appears your trying to login as root
[21:40] <kfizz> airwolf, so you install java through synaptic and then how do you know it didn't work? Does a program you're trying to run depend on it?
[21:41] <ranjan> ikonia :: no i am tring to log in as an odinary user
[21:41] <mdg_> anthony__: you are welcome - I'm gonna download via xp box and see what I get.  If I find it, I will post to the ubuntu forums in the networking forum
[21:41] <ikonia> ranjan: if you look at the error, it's looking at your X authority files in /root
[21:41] <airwolf> i play a javabast game and it is not leting me plAY IT OR LOGON IT IT KEEPS SAYING THAT I NEED TO INSTALL JAVA
[21:41] <ikonia> ranjan: that suggests you've launched whatever you're trying to do as root
[21:42] <racecar56> airwolf: check your caps lock key *AND* do what it says, install java :P
[21:42] <ikonia> !java > airwolf
[21:42] <duncan_> airwolf, don't use capitals. It's regarded as shouting, and it's rude.
[21:42] <airwolf> E: sun-java6-doc: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[21:42] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:42] <racecar56> O_O
[21:42] <racecar56> that was cool :P
[21:43] <airwolf> sorry i did not see that my lock was on
[21:43] <iceroot> ubuntu running fine with zsh as login-shell? or should i stay with bash? i like zsh much so want to set it global
[21:43] <StaticPhilly> does anyone know of any good remote control panels, i know of ispconfig (looks pretty bad) webmin (might as well use ssh) ebox (not many options for dns etc)
[21:43] <airwolf> E: sun-java6-doc: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[21:43] <iceroot> StaticPhilly: ssh
[21:43] <ranjan> ikonia :: ya it's true i have copied some file to apt folder directly without using internet
[21:43] <kfizz> airwolf, I've never heard of javabast, has it worked on ubuntu for you before?
[21:43] <StaticPhilly> iceroot: lol yea thats what im starting to think for
[21:44] <ranjan> ikonia :: ya it's true i have copied some file to apt folder directly without using internet  in order to make ubuntu uto dated
[21:44] <ikonia> ranjan: ok - so that may/may not be the problem
[21:44] <airwolf> well it can be played in a internet browser
[21:44] <erisco> how can I get a list of all attached devices? Not lsusb... not mount... I am confused because I attached an external hard drive which gives me /dev/sr1 and /dev/sdf1 which are two partitions on it. However, I cannot seem to find the device that encompasses the whole drive
[21:44] <ikonia> ranjan: what command are you doing that's causing that problem ?
[21:45] <iflema> .
[21:45] <lanzelloth> hi. My sound stopped working, I think right after I plugged in my mic. I've been using alsa all this time
[21:45] <haydemon> has anyone had the problem of not being able to kill an app from the System Monitor in Ubuntu?
[21:45] <yao_go> hello i need to know if the problem about suspend and hibernate mode get fixed with the installation of the package  uswsusp. i have ubuntu hardy heron
[21:45] <kfizz> Ah, what browser are you using airwolf?
[21:45] <airwolf> firefox
[21:45] <ikonia> yao_go: the problem you talk about is very hardware specific, so it would be hard to say for certain without trying it yourself
[21:46] <ranjan> ikonia :: i am not able to log in grafics mode the i think the problem is quite old i foled https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/85598 to solve my issue
[21:46] <evolio> hi guys
[21:46] <iflema> haydemon: try holding click (end process) for a few seconds
[21:46] <ranjan> but nothing +ve came out
[21:46] <kfizz> Okay, airwolf, in firefox go to Tools -> Add Ons and click on extensions
[21:46] <evolio> ever since i upgraded to karmic im getting video corruption in chromium
[21:46] <evolio> http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8963/screenshotorw.png
[21:46] <kfizz> Do you see a java add-on?
[21:46] <mizerydearia> What variation of ubuntu has a desktop environment that has the least system requirements and will run on slow computers from about 2002-2003?
[21:46] <evolio> does anyone know how to fix this?
[21:46] <pat123123123> i hear the ubuntu startup sound but not any syste sounds - any debugging advice? i am using 9.10 on acer apire one 741h with gma 500 (poulsbo) chip set
[21:46] <ikonia> ranjan: the first thing I'd do is remove this file "/root/.ICEauthority
[21:46] <mizerydearia> Which is better for a slow system: xfce?   fluxbox?  other?
[21:46] <ikonia> ranjan: then restartX - however I'm concerned that it's looking in /root for that file
[21:47] <ikonia> mizerydearia: not much difference, try them
[21:47] <^workman^> mizerydaria: lxde is really nice
[21:47] <yao_go> ikonia: i read something about a broadcom adapters, could be the problem?
[21:47] <airwolf> and thin wat
[21:47] <ikonia> yao_go: it's very hardware specific
[21:47] <delano> hello evry body
[21:47] <delano> what did i just do
[21:47] <delano> im new to this one
[21:47] <kfizz> airwolf, do you see a java extension/add-on?
[21:48] <airwolf> no
[21:48] <ikonia> delano: you said "hello"
[21:48] <delano> yeah i gussed that one :P
[21:48] <delano> but where am i
[21:48] <delano> its clear its a chat room
[21:48] <ikonia> delano: you're in the #ubuntu support channel on the IRC network freenode
[21:48] <delano> ah
[21:48] <kfizz> Okay, airwolf, in the add-ons window, select "Get Add-ons"
[21:48] <yao_go> ikonia: thanks four you time see ya
[21:48] <kaptainzer1> hi crowd!!
[21:48] <delano> i understand
[21:48] <ranjan> ikonia :: i have removed the file from my directory
[21:49] <delano> naybe you can help me then
[21:49] <kfizz> airwolf, then search for java and install the java console
[21:49] <delano> i have a pacard bell netbook
[21:49] <ikonia> ranjan: restart X and lets see what your errors are
[21:49] <xerox1> hi, is anybody allready using thunderbird 3 ? how to import settings from version 2 ? import dialog doesn't find the older version
[21:49] <ikonia> delano: if you have a question, ask
[21:49] <delano> just put ubuntu on here but how do i get the wlan to work
[21:49] <airwolf> i just did that im instaling that now
[21:49] <ranjan> ikonia :: i have removed the file from my directory  in the simalar way should i remove that from / directory
[21:49] <ikonia> !info thunderbird
[21:49] <pat123123123> any advice on debugging sound issues?  i followed the tutorial in the forums but got stuck when it had me check the also docs for my sound card driver -  i have intel gma 500 poulsbo but its not listed
[21:49] <ikonia> xerox1: I don't think thunderbird 3 is packaged for ubuntu yet
[21:50] <pat123123123> alsa
[21:50] <ranjan> ikonia :: i mean to say from /Desktop directory
[21:50] <delano> i dit the sudo get -apt
[21:50] <xerox1> ikonia, yes downloaded it from the website...
[21:50] <delano> ant stuff
[21:50] <delano> but where do i configure it
[21:50] <airwolf> give me a sec to see if it worked
[21:50] <delano> like the key and stuff
[21:50] <ikonia> xerox1: ok - then it's not an ubuntu problem, its something you need thunderbird support from
[21:50] <airwolf> tyvm it worked
[21:50] <barnes> Is there any maximum amount of partitions that a HDD can have?
[21:51] <kfizz> you're welcome
[21:51] <ikonia> ranjan: delete the file I told you to delete
[21:51] <ikonia> barnes: 15 for a dos partition table
[21:51] <airwolf> how can i install wine and where can i get it
[21:51] <xerox1> ikonia, hm, i think it's a linux problem; on windows it works
[21:51] <DasEi> barnes: primary four usually, logics more than hundred
[21:51] <pat123123123> no one can touch my sound issues?
[21:51] <barnes> ikonia: Well, I'm only looking to have 5...windows, ubuntu, mac osx, and a shared partition. (ntfs?)
[21:51] <Pudgy> Is there an Ubuntu packager online by any chance for a question?
[21:52] <iflema> winblows
[21:52] <maco> Pudgy: are you looking to get involved with packaging?
[21:52] <racecar56> how do i open a secondary X session (it has to be the same user AND it has to run on another VT)
[21:52] <maco> Pudgy: if so, #ubuntu-motu is the place to go
[21:52] <racecar56> AND it should not make my computer crash.
[21:52] <racecar56> xP
[21:52] <kfizz> I'm following these instructions to reinstall grub2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD however, when I get to "grub-install /dev/sdb" (which is the drive my boot is on) I get an error: /dev/sda5: Not found or not a block device. Why is the error referring to sda5 when I'm trying to install on sdb?
[21:53] <racecar56> kfizz: device.map
[21:53] <ikonia> racecar56: research the DISPLAY varible
[21:53] <maco> Pudgy: but whats up? i might be able to answer your question
[21:53] <racecar56> ikonia: doesn't help. i know about it.
[21:53] <Pudgy> maco: Ah, I would, but that's not the question ;) But I guess ub-motu is the place to go
[21:53] <kfizz> racecar56, is that a command I should run?
[21:53] <ikonia> racecar56: then what's you're question ?
[21:53] <maco> Pudgy: well i do some packaging, so if you'd like i can try to answer
[21:54] <RaverWild> guys have a problem - is there a way i could force update manager to re-download downloaded but not installed packages?
[21:54] <mizerydearia> ^workman^, thanks for the suggestion.  I'll check it out.  p.s. tab completion helsp prevent nick misspellage
[21:54] <racecar56> ikonia: how do i run another X session in another VT. :1.
[21:54] <racecar56> kfizz: no.
[21:54] <ikonia> racecar56: you don't - you run it on the console
[21:54] <racecar56> kfizz: it's a file that hides somewhere
[21:54] <fixxxermet> I started an apt-get install while at work logged into a server via ssh.  I'm home now and forgot to use screen while at work.  apt is still running but I think only because it needs some user input.  what can I do?
[21:54] <DasEi> RaverWild: why that ? can try apt-get clean and re- do then
[21:54] <ikonia> racecar56: if you want multiple - you use the DISPLAY varible to launch them on different display heads
[21:54] <jrib> racecar56: startx -- :1          ?
[21:54] <ranjan> ikonia :: i have deleted the file and i am giving an restart to my system
[21:55] <Pudgy> maco: I would like to have an ubuntu package for (suckless's) surf tar.gz. I would like to give it a go myself, but that would take ages to learn. Is there a way to propose that tar.gz to be packaged?
[21:55] <racecar56> jrib: thanks
[21:55] <ikonia> Pudgy: log a feature request on launchpad.net
[21:55] <maco> Pudgy: yep, you can file a bug
[21:55] <LjL> racecar56: keep in mind though having two GNOME sessions open for the same user might not be the best of ideas...
[21:55] <Pudgy> Oh, ok... thanks ikonia and maco.
[21:55] <RaverWild> DasEi, cause i cant install latest updates. i remember my laptop froze in the middle. i had to reboot. then continued downloading. now it wont install any update. tells me error on every package
[21:56] <Blaccent> Alright, so the new driver is much faster for HD video playback, but the colours aren't right
[21:56] <maco> Pudgy: and it doesnt take ages :) its not too bad really, though that kinda depends on how complicated the software you're packaging is
[21:56] <DasEi> RaverWild: in the middle of a dist-upgrade ?
[21:56] <Pudgy> maco: I can't even solve the dependancies by hand installing tarballs ;) (yes I tried)
[21:56] <phoenixz> Im using VNC to access the destkop of my dad who is on the other side of the world.. Its slow as hell.. How can I speed it up a bit? I already tried depth 8 and compression 0.. is there anything else I can do to make it faster?
[21:56] <RaverWild> DasEi, no. regular update
[21:56] <DasEi> RaverWild: ah, I see, open a terminal for some tries
[21:57] <maco> Pudgy: the INSTALL file should help if there is one. also, "apt-file search $filename" (apt-file is not installed by default) can lookup what package contains the file you're missing for compiling against
[21:57] <DasEi> RaverWild: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:57] <jrib> Pudgy: you don't install tarballs to satisfy dependencies, you install packages
[21:57] <RaverWild> DasEi, what does that do?
[21:57] <Finnish> I'm trying to render in Kino, and I get this message: demuxer rawdv does not exist. What does that mean?
[21:58] <DasEi> RaverWild: checks for an interrupted update
[21:58] <maco> jrib: ah good catch
[21:58] <RaverWild> DasEi, done
[21:58] <Pudgy> maco: damn... now you make me anxious to try again...
[21:58] <DasEi> RaverWild: sudo apt-get update                       ,paste the error if any
[21:58] <hdtdi> hello i am using ubuntu 9.10 and i am reading http://wiki.ubuntu.com.cn/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch28_:_Managing_Disk_Usage_with_Quotas to find out how to manage disc usage.. and i have a problem. my fstab /home looks like that UUID=b46321b5-06d2-4bba-ae47-89ad855238e1 /home ext4 defaults,usrquota 0 2 and now i find out i dont have "quotacheck" so iam trying to install quota package but i have this error : http://pastebin.ca/1707492
[21:58]  * syn-ack cleans up his build environment
[21:59] <RaverWild> DasEi, done. no errors
[21:59] <DasEi> RaverWild: sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:59] <Pudgy> maco: I'll check out launchpad just to be on the safe side ;) Did you package a lot?
[22:00] <maco> Pudgy: i dont often do packages from scratch. usually it's packaging a new release or integrating a patch into a package
[22:00] <ranjan_> ikonia :: i have tried your solution by deliting and restarting
[22:01] <DasEi> RaverWild: all good ?
[22:01] <ranjan_> but it have not fixed my proble
[22:01] <RaverWild> DasEi, yep. no errors
[22:01] <DasEi> RaverWild: what did you want to install ?
[22:01] <RaverWild> DasEi, nothing special. just the ubuntu updates.
[22:02] <DasEi> RaverWild: have a good time then
[22:02] <RaverWild> DasEi, thanks man
[22:02] <CN0TE> Would it be possible if I could get some help or could query someone and get help? I have downloaded Ubuntu Installer for Windows ran it then started ubuntu it installed and told me to reboot so I did now when I try to run ubuntu it goes to a command line and some characters are cut off i believe its bash:grub and before that its says something like NOWBGT but it goes to fast to read
[22:02] <DasEi> np
[22:02] <RaverWild> DasEi, you too. bye
[22:02] <pcude> can some one help, my letting me know if Ubuntu supports mutli video out puts. 3VGA's?
[22:02] <noise_> any program to convert FLV to mp3?
[22:02] <[-]> M
[22:02] <michas> Hi, is anyone using the current resolvconv package? Does it still work for you? (Mine is starting too late, so I'm ending with an empty resolve.conf. :( )
[22:02] <TheCheeze> pcude, if your card supports it, yes
[22:02] <DasEi> pcude: 3 monitors ?
[22:02] <dAlfa89_> pcude, yes, Ubuntu supports more than one display
[22:03] <nibbler> how can i get /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.5  -- i found libstdc++.so.5 but only for my 64bit system, i cant install the 32bit .deb, as its wrong architecture :|
[22:03] <Pudgy> maco: cool. I read about packaging often, and I like the stories of the Motu, but the threshold of going from reading tutorial, and actually trying it I still didn't take.
[22:03] <maco> Pudgy: have you seen the motu packaging 101 videos daniel holbach has on youtube? theyre easy to follow along with
[22:04] <kde185> does Ubuntu have a way a user can invite another person to a remote desktop sharing session?  I'm trying to help my brother with Ubuntu but I only have KDE installed and I can't remember how to do that
[22:04] <DasEi> nibbler: karmic ?
[22:04] <nibbler> DasEi, ja
[22:04] <mikalmo> i'm having some trouble connecting to my wep-secured wireless network. where can i seek help?
[22:05] <nibbler> it shouldnt be called "secured" if its wep... ;p
[22:05] <ranjan_> ikonia ::  can any body over here can help me in solving some login problem "Could not update ICEauthority file /root/.ICEauthority" please help
[22:05] <mikalmo> hehe
[22:05] <kfizz> mikalmo, is this a new network you're setting up
[22:05] <Pudgy> maco: I think I did yes. Maybe I should just take the plunge ;) Is there a mailinglist of some sort motu use?
[22:05] <mikalmo> no, it's my father in-laws network
[22:05] <maco> Pudgy: yes, and i should get around to joining it since ive been one nearly a month now
[22:05] <maco> Pudgy: lists.ubuntu.com has all the mailing lists
[22:05] <kfizz> mikalmo, and do you have the network key?
[22:05] <DasEi> nibbler: think only higher versions there, (guess: backports ?)  what do you need it for ?
[22:06] <DasEi> nibbler: http://pastebin.com/f2734bb97
[22:06] <nibbler> DasEi, need it for sopcast....
[22:06] <mikalmo> i've successfully connected to unsecured networks in the past, but when i try to connect to this network it hangs for a while, then i get prompted to type in the network key again
[22:06] <Pudgy> maco: thanks for the info maco. I'll keep you informed ;)
[22:06] <maco> Pudgy: no problem :)
[22:06] <nibbler> well, seems to be not too easy to get it... so thanks anyway andgood night
[22:07] <kfizz> mikalmo, so you don't have the network key?
[22:07] <ranjan_> ikonia ::  can any body over here can help me in solving some login problem "Could not update ICEauthority file /root/.ICEauthority" please help
[22:07] <mikalmo> yes, i have the network key
[22:07] <DasEi> nibbler: no personal experience, let's check http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-sopcast-player-in-ubuntu-9-10karmic.html if you like
[22:07] <pepito> hi
[22:07] <kfizz> mikalmo, and once you have it and enter it it kinda acts like it's doing something but then never does?
[22:07] <CN0TE> Would it be possible if I could get some help or could query someone and get help? I have downloaded Ubuntu Installer for Windows ran it then started ubuntu it installed and told me to reboot so I did now when I try to run ubuntu it goes to a command line and some characters are cut off i believe its bash:grub and before that its says something like NOWBGT but it goes to fast to read
[22:07] <ranjan_> ikonia ::  can any body over here can help me in solving some login problem "Could not update ICEauthority file /root/.ICEauthority" please help
[22:08] <DasEi> nibbler: what is that for ?
[22:08] <mikalmo> i've tried replacing network manager with wicd and just about every different setting for connecting to the network there is, but i just can't obtain an ip from the router
[22:09] <kfizz> mikalmo, 1) Are other devices able to connect to this network? 2) Is the router set up to give out IP addresses via DHCP, and 3) In connection settings for the wireless connection, is Ubuntu set to receive an IP address automatically?
[22:09] <lzrdking> how come jaunty drops my bluetooth connections, and i either need to completely remove the device and re-add it, or sometimes i even need to reboot?  how can i keep my devices connected, or at least make it so they can reconnect consistently?  it happens with my BT mouse and with both sony phones that have a BT remote (apparently only one phone can be connected at a time, but one is better than none!)
[22:09] <noise_> any one from albania?
[22:10] <DasEi> nibbler: ah, chinese football, hehe
[22:10] <CShadowRun> noise_: this is a support channel, not a discussion channel
[22:10] <noise_> ok
[22:10] <Deacon> Hi people. Who wants to help me get CS3 up and running on 9.10? :D
[22:10] <mikalmo> kfizz: yes, connecting to the network works like a charm with windows machines. dhcp in both router and my pc
[22:11] <CShadowRun> Deacon the wine appdb does, http://appdb.winehq.org
[22:11] <racecar56> lzrdking: i believe bluetooth is meant to be very low-ranged so be sure they are close.
[22:11] <lzrdking> they are close and don't get far apart
[22:11] <Deacon> But wine keeps having problems with CS3 :(
[22:11] <CShadowRun> Deacon: #winehq does too
[22:12] <Deacon> Ah, k :)
[22:12] <CShadowRun> hehe
[22:13] <kfizz> mikalmo, could you copy the output of ifconfig wlan0 (assuming that's the wireless interface) to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:13] <noise_> sooooo any converter Flv to mp3
[22:13] <mikalmo> i've googled for two days now, and there are several others with the same problem, but i haven't found a solution that helps me yet..
[22:13] <hdtdi> does anyone know a tutorial how to manage disc quota on ubuntu 9.10 with ext4 fs ?
[22:13] <mikalmo> paste.ubuntu.com? i'm not following..
[22:13] <PND> Hello here
[22:14] <dajhorn> hdtdi: The error message that you posted told you to run `fsck`.  Did you do that?
[22:14] <tmorphius> anyone know how i can get my 6 channel sound working on karmic, i tried jack but that dosent work, only pulse seems to work, but only on sterio
[22:15] <kfizz> mikalmo, exceute "ifconfig wlan0 > ~/Desktop/out.txt" and then open up out.txt from your desktop and copy and paste it into the text box at paste.ubuntu.com
[22:15] <racecar56> cs3? what.
[22:15] <hdtdi> dajhorn, no but i removed the usrquota from fstab then installed the quota and quotatool then write back the usrquota in fstab and now when i run quotacheck i got this error http://pastebin.ca/1707517 so now i am reading in google how to Set Up Journaled Quota
[22:16] <deleuzer> after 9.10 upgrade I have to run fsck on every boot in order to get X window, how can I fix this?
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> noise_, flv is typically video+audio - MP3 is only audio -- is this really what you want?
[22:17] <noise_> no i want to listen a youtube video in mp3 to burn it into a CD
[22:17] <jareklynx> hi
[22:18] <ghen> how long would you guy estimate before thunderbird 3 appears in ubuntu repos?
[22:18] <David-T> hdtdi: never done it but google suggests adding "jqfmt=vfsv0" to your fstab options
[22:18] <dajhorn> hdtdi: You should umount the filesystem and run `fsck -C -f -v /dev/sda6` before you do anything else.
[22:18] <mikalmo> kfizz: ok, my wireless is eth1, but nevertheless; i've pasted it into the textbok
[22:19] <ZykoticK9> noise_, one method would be to just dump the audio with mplayer, "mplayer -ao pcm FOO_FILE" then something like "lame -h -b 128 audiodump.wav"
[22:19] <kfizz> mikalmo, now click "Paste!" and copy and paste the url from your web browser's address bar here
[22:19] <DasEi> noise_: if you just want the speech try audacity
[22:19] <erUSUL> !latest | ghen
[22:19] <Nec> Øî òóò çà õóèíÿ òâîðèòñÿ?
[22:20] <mikalmo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/337593/
[22:20] <hdtdi> dajhorn, i dont fully underastand all i am doing but i am trying to do this on /home fs and when i try to umount i got "device busy"
[22:20] <erUSUL> Nec: cauntry?
[22:20] <dajhorn> hdtdi:  Is /dev/sda6 you home directory?
[22:20] <hdtdi> yes
[22:20] <hdtdi> /dev/sda6              72G   16G   53G  24% /home
[22:21] <dajhorn> hdtdi: You'll need to drop the system into single-user mode, or do it from a Live CD.
[22:21] <ghen> erUSUL, yes I know im just wondering how long would be 'normal'
[22:21] <hdtdi> like.. init 1?
[22:22] <vaiofw> nick krujen
[22:22] <dajhorn> hdtdi: Right idea, but double-check.  I usually run `telinit` and can't remember the runlevels.
[22:22] <erUSUL> ghen: i quote again « Post-release updates are only considered if they are: fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit.
[22:22] <dajhorn> hdtdi: You need to be at the console.  Don't change runlevels if you're connected through ssh.
[22:22] <hdtdi> dajhorn,  can you at least tell me what fsck -C -f -v /dev/sda6 is doing..
[22:22] <ghen> sorry
[22:22] <erUSUL> ghen: so if version 3 did not make into karmic it wont be aviable till lucid (the next version)
[22:22] <hdtdi> no no its my home pc.. im not connected through ssh
[22:23] <kfizz> mikalmo, what does "sudo dhclient" yield when executed in a terminal?
[22:23] <ghen> k thanks :)
[22:23] <erUSUL> ghen: it can be made abiable in backports though
[22:23] <dajhorn> hdtdi: -C = show progress, -f = do it now, -v = be verbose.
[22:23] <ghen> yea
[22:23] <erUSUL> !backports > ghen
[22:23] <hdtdi> ok brb :)
[22:23] <ghen> thanks
[22:25] <bear531> get windows keys for cheap http://bit.ly/5Tgz2X :)
[22:25] <LjL> !ops | bear531
[22:25] <mikalmo> kfizz: pasted to the bin
[22:25] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, does anyone use amarok? if yes, could u tell me how to update it from 1.4 to 2.last version? without losing ratings, settings etc? thanks
[22:26] <kfizz> I think somehow my ext4 partition lost its "ext4ness" if you will. fdisk -l lists /dev/sda1 as "Unkown" am I SOL?
[22:26] <Flexy> I'm having trouble in installing ubuntu 9.10 to a asus laptop with ssd drive. ext4 journal fails. or something else fails with stuck machine. (not responding to anything, not even magick sysrq)
[22:26] <kfizz> mikalmo, what's the link?
[22:26] <Flannel> IpSe_DiXiT: You might have more luck with that question in #kubuntu actually
[22:26] <iceroot> IpSe_DiXiT: you dont want to upgrade
[22:26] <iceroot> IpSe_DiXiT: trust me
[22:26] <mikalmo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/337595/
[22:26] <IpSe_DiXiT> but i have UBUNTU not k...
[22:26] <IpSe_DiXiT> iceroot: ah c'mon...
[22:26] <dajhorn> kfizz: You want `fdisk -l /dev/sda` instead.
[22:27] <dajhorn> kfizz: There won't be a partition table in /dev/sda1 unless you've done something weird.
[22:27] <Flexy> I'm trying now with normal hdd, seems that maybe it's smoother... ssd is at fault? It worked in debian just fine...
[22:27] <kfizz> dajhorn fidsk -l /dev/sda yields Cannot open /dev/sda
[22:27] <DasEi> kfizz: any special cicumstances for that ?
[22:27] <kfizz> mikalmo, does ifconfig yield anything different now?
[22:27] <dajhorn> kfizz:  `sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda`
[22:27] <mikalmo> kfizz: i'm currently connected through my mobile phone on usb0
[22:28] <kfizz> DasEi, I tried to copy an MBR from one hdd to another using dd, that's when this all started hpapening
[22:28] <hdtdi> dajhorn, damn i forgot what i was suppose to write :D can you paste me again the line ?
[22:28] <dajhorn> hdtdi: fsck -C -f -v /dev/sda6
[22:28] <DasEi> kfizz: sure, if it wasn't the original mbr conatains parti-table, ..lost
[22:29] <mikalmo> kfizz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337600/
[22:29] <DasEi> kfizz: is like petrol in a electro-car
[22:29] <DasEi> kfizz: still got a backup of the old mbr ?
[22:30] <ZeroKewl> hi i need help with sound issues with a RealTek HD
[22:30] <ZeroKewl> when i try to play a game it has buzzing sound
[22:30] <ZeroKewl> 9.10 ubuntu is what i have
[22:30] <manyje1> Hello. i am pretty new at this. is there someone how could help me with a scanner porblem i have a HP Scanjet 5300c Connected throu a Serial Port not USB and it can't find it in Xsane
[22:31] <notroot> ciao
[22:32] <rob0917> is there a channel to talk about ubuntu experiences ?
[22:32] <delano> hello i need some help
[22:32] <ikus060> Hi, I've just install Chrome and so far I found the GTK theme disgusting. There is some weird pink/violet color at the top. Any body know and to change it for a more conservative color ?? like black or orange ?
[22:33] <delano> hi evryone
[22:33] <DasEi> rob0917: #ubuntu-offtopic, #linux
[22:33] <delano> i need some help
[22:33] <rob0917> thanks
[22:33] <delano> i just installed xubuntu on my packerdbell dot S and can not get my wlan to work
[22:33] <delano> what do i have to do
[22:33] <delano> please help me
[22:33] <kfizz> dajhorn, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda > http://paste.ubuntu.com/337602
[22:33] <delano> im getting desperate
[22:33] <PND> Hello here. I have sound problem again with my sound card. Sometime on boot it detects it, sometime it doesn't.
[22:34] <kfizz> mikalmo, are you using network manager or wicd?
[22:34] <delano> wlan on my dot S please help
[22:34] <DasEi> kfizz: still got a backup of the old mbr ?
[22:34] <kfizz> DasEi, I finally got to boot into the old hdd which still had a version of ubuntu on it, and I can boot into that system, however the grub menu no longer shows my newest ubuntu install
[22:34] <deleuzer> delano,  what ubuntu version?
[22:34] <mikalmo> kfizz: network manager at the present, i tried wicd with no success a couple of hours ago
[22:34] <Mony> delano, use ethernet
[22:34] <delano> i used the wubuntu installer
[22:34] <hdtdi> dajhorn, what exactly is suppose to happen when i run fsck ? i mean.. i got no errors some stats nothing more and now when i run quotacheck its the same error msg
[22:34] <delano> its 9
[22:35] <delano> yeah im on that now
[22:35] <delano> but what do i do now
[22:35] <kfizz> mikalmo, is the wireless connection set to use ipv4 or ipv6?
[22:35] <dajhorn> hdtdi: That was a safety check.  You should never ignore "run fsck" in an error message.
[22:35] <deleuzer> ah there's some back port issue with wifi and wubi
[22:35] <DasEi> kfizz: let's get that straight, you copied just the (512?) in front of another hd over by dd ?
[22:35] <cwmoser1> Don't know how its been for you, but Karmic Koala is the best and most reliable Ubuntu  install since 6.10
[22:35] <mikalmo> ipv4
[22:35] <tmorphius> why wont my panel i set to autohide show up when i mouseover? anyone
[22:35] <delano> is there anny way i can fix this problem cause its bugging me
[22:36] <delano> i need this wlan to work reaadlly b
[22:36] <anli_> is it possible to change an icon for an applet thats added to a panel? The trashcan is not really nice looking
[22:36] <Mony> delano, use bluetooth
[22:36] <PND> Problem fixed, thanks (I found a magic command)
[22:36] <kfizz> DasEi, I ran something along the lines of dd /dev/sda /dev/sdb (I can't remember the exact command)
[22:36] <kfizz> mikalmo, okay, that's good, is ipv6 set to ignore?
[22:36] <tyranos> i just bought a bamboo wacom tablet and doesnt seem to get recognized by the driver,does anyone have experience with that
[22:36] <mikalmo> yes
[22:36] <hdtdi> dajhorn, ok.. but what does the other mean http://pastebin.ca/1707541 ?
[22:36] <delano> ??
[22:37] <kfizz> mikalmo, do you know if this wireless card has worked before on other wireless networks?
[22:37] <dajhorn> hdtdi: Dunno.  Keep troubleshooting.
[22:37] <deleuzer> delano, be patient, I'm trying to find my notes
[22:37] <mikalmo> yes, it works perfectly on unsecured networks
[22:37] <delano> ah okay thanx
[22:37] <DasEi> kfizz: did you copy the whole hd or just the mbr ? dd if=/dev/sda  of=/dev(sdb   is whole hd, then mbr will fit (if sdb is big enough, dd not interupted)
[22:38] <kfizz> mikalmo, okay so it's not a hardware problem. In the connection information of your wireless connection what does Wireless security show, as in the settings?
[22:38] <kfizz> DasEi, yes I did dd if = /dev/sda of =dev/sdb
[22:38] <pcude> DasEi: yes 3 monitors.
[22:39] <deleuzer> delano, you have any restricted drivers listed System >> Admin >> Hardware Drivers
[22:39] <DasEi> kfizz: that's the whole hd then, and with sdd bigger sda it should work, expect from uuids maybe
[22:39] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[22:39] <pcude> DasEi:can you PM me, attempt to explain
[22:39] <DasEi> pcude: nope
[22:40] <DasEi> pcude: 3 monitors, like 2 on a g-card and one onboard ?
[22:40] <sprockets2000> How can I turn on hardware acceleration for my graphics card, or is it not support with INtel Integrated?
[22:40] <mikalmo> kfizz: i'm not sure. can i check that now (as i am connected on usb0) without disconnecting?
[22:40] <delano> theres no admin in my system tab ?
[22:40] <kfizz> DasEi, which is what I was hoping for..unfortunately, if I set the second hdd to boot first all I get is "GRUB " and it just sits there
[22:40] <kfizz> mikalmo, yes , right click on network manager and click edit connecitons
[22:40] <kfizz> mikalmo, then select the wireless connection and click "Edit"
[22:41] <anli_> hm, would be nice to put a link to a file in the panel also (instead of on the desktop)
[22:41] <anli_> httpd.conf, for instance
[22:41] <DasEi> kfizz: k, but in this scenario a rescue can be done then, reinstalling grub,  maybe checking fstab against uuid
[22:41] <mikalmo> kfizz: WEP 40/128-bit key
[22:41] <jiffe98> I had 2 9.04 servers running ipvs, one master the other backup, I updated the backup to 9.10 and it doesn't seem to be syncing with the master anymore
[22:42] <jiffe98> is that just an incompatibility?
[22:42] <kfizz> DasEi, I've gone through the ubuntu wiki guide on reinstalling grub2 and have had no luck, and I was wondering if it was maybe because /dev/sda1 showed Unknown for the filesystem instead of linux?
[22:42] <kfizz> mikalmo, and that's the correct encryption?
[22:42] <deleuzer> delano, sudo lshw -C network
[22:42] <mikalmo> yes, i believe so..
[22:42] <deleuzer> what's the vendor?
[22:42] <delano> oh wait i just did the hardware updater thing for the 3 time
[22:42] <delano> and it just worked
[22:43] <delano> i have no idea what just happend
[22:43] <kfizz> mikalmo, you might check that against the windows box that is connected to the router. (make sure the key is correct along with the index and Authentication, most likely the index is 1 and the auth is Open, but it may be different)
[22:43] <deleuzer> :-)
[22:43] <Beezie> whee!
[22:43] <DasEi> kfizz: sda shouldn't have been affected in this operation,  m
[22:43] <delano> i went to
[22:43] <delano> hardware drivers
[22:43] <DNS777> O_o
[22:43] <delano> and activatet the other one there were to and it just worked
[22:43] <delano> really strange
[22:43] <delano> ik hope it works after reboot
[22:43] <mikalmo> i've already checked that. index is 1 and auth is open
[22:44] <delano> its a dual boot slo
[22:44] <usuario> HI
[22:44] <DasEi> kfizz: messed indentifiers ?
[22:44] <kfizz> mikalmo, do you know how many DHCP leases the router allows? It may be that it's only allowing one  DHCP lease
[22:45] <root_mymachinebr> the lookup filesystem by uuid got broke somehow
[22:45] <kfizz> DasEi, I'm not sure what you mean, so there's a good chance I messed something like that up ha
[22:45] <mikalmo> that's not the problem, i have connected with several other computers at the same time before
[22:45] <root_mymachinebr> need to regenerate boot path with fixed device names
[22:45] <root_mymachinebr> how?
[22:46] <TheSlacker> Guys, is there anyway to make my terminal always start as root?
[22:46] <kfizz> mikalmo, under connection information again, what mode is selected in the wireless tab?
[22:46] <TheSlacker> like make an auto "sudo su" command
[22:46] <DasEi> kfizz: if you turn sda and sdb,  you could get such a situation,  also when the (bigger) hd you cloned to had other partitons on it, not matching partitiontable of clone-source (sda)
[22:46] <deleuzer> TheSlacker, install windows
[22:47] <TheSlacker> hahaha del, thank you but no than you
[22:47] <BlueG> TheSlacker: are you talking about gnome-terminal?
[22:47] <sAnta89_> TheSlacker, just open a root terminal?
[22:47] <mikalmo> kfizz: infrastructure
[22:47] <kfizz> DasEi, the hd are both the same size. Identicaly harddrives actually, both 500GB
[22:48] <DasEi> kfizz: so the one boots, the other doesnt ?
[22:48] <kfizz> mikalmo, what version of networkmanager are you using? Right click -> About
[22:48] <kfizz> DasEi, yes. Right now it's as if I never installed the second hdd and installed Karmic on it.
[22:48] <mikalmo> kfizz: 0.7.996
[22:49] <kfizz> DasEi, and before the Karmic one booted fine until I did the dd thing
[22:49] <ryann> i've recently fresh installed, and i noticed there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst but i am able to make changes using startupmanager.  Any ideas what's going on here?  Grub version 1.97
[22:49] <NuuBuntu> How do you access a folder from the ls list withotu having to go back and re-write the entire cd?
[22:49] <erUSUL> !grub2 | ryann
[22:49] <DasEi> kfizz: I don't understand .. the karmic one.. :
[22:49] <deleuzer> can someone tell me where to find the shutdown log?
[22:49] <kfizz> mikalmo, you're using the latest network manager and everything else seems "right," I'm not sure what else to tell you... :/
[22:49] <jrib> NuuBuntu: what?
[22:49] <TheSlacker> blue, imagine if i want to run a script and i want it to run as root without it prompting me for a password
[22:49] <ryann> tyty
[22:49] <kfizz> DasEi, as in the one I installed Ubuntu Karmic on, sorry for the confusion
[22:49] <erUSUL> NuuBuntu: rephrase please
[22:50] <DasEi> kfizz: 1) one hd, installed karmic on 2) attached scnd. hd, cloned from the first ..
[22:50] <anli_> hm, I created a desktop shortcut to httpd.conf, but it did not appear on the desktop :)
[22:50] <sAnta89_> NuuBuntu, you mean changing directory without having to type the long folder name?
[22:50] <DasEi> kfizz: so now if want to boot the second, got to choose in bios for
[22:50] <anli_> create launcher-> type=location etc
[22:50] <mikalmo> kfizz: that's ok. i've been googling for a couple of days now, and there are several others with the same problem, but i haven't found any solution that helps me. could it be the network card/driver (i have intel pro wireless 2200)
[22:50] <Dreamglider> i just instlled ubuntu 8.04 on a laptop but i cannot get connected to the LAN, i have to use dhcp since im at campus
[22:51] <NuuBuntu> erUSUL, ok, basically I am in a directory already, say for example home/user/directory/blah/blah. I entered the ls command to see what folders were in that directory and located the one I wanted to CD into. Is there a way just to CD into that folder without having to go back and retype the entire CD title like home/user/etc.
[22:51] <TheSlacker> I have the launchers made but i am prompted for a password for each launcher... can i avoid that somehow?
[22:51] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: do you get any error if you try to "sudo dhclient eth0" ?
[22:51] <Dreamglider> im one one of these small aspire so typing might be  bit off
[22:51] <kfizz> DasEi 1) one hd, installed ubuntu jaunty on 2) installed new hdd in second hd slot on my laptop 3) installed karmic on new hd and I wanted to be able to format the first one but it was the one with the mbr so I needed to copy it over and thus my predicament
[22:52] <erUSUL> NuuBuntu: just « cd dir_name »
[22:52] <NuuBuntu> santa89_, I think that's what I mean, I want to CD without having to retype the whole line again
[22:52] <sAnta89_> NuuBuntu, if you're in the directory above it, you can just type the folder you want in to
[22:52] <DasEi> kfizz: yay, whole story now, no, that crashed then
[22:52] <kfizz> mikalmo, I was thinking that may be a problem, but sinceyou can connect unsecured I'm not so sure. Have you done a google search for "intel pro wireless 2200 ubuntu wep" w/o quotes to see if anything comes up
[22:52] <erUSUL> NuuBuntu: in linux you can use absolute paths (the long ones) or relative paths (those relative to where you are)
[22:52] <NuuBuntu> wow, thank you guys, i'm apparently a moron, I tried that but must have mistyped something because it didn't work the first time. it's working now. Thanks again!
[22:53] <sAnta89_> NuuBuntu, no problem
[22:53] <DasEi> kfizz: important data on the jaunty one ?
[22:53] <preuhs> salut
[22:53] <preuhs> help, svp
[22:54] <kfizz> DasEi, more or less, and I had copied all the data from the jaunty one to the karmic one so that I could format the jaunty one and have it as extra storage.
[22:54] <mikalmo> kfizz: at least 20 different searches ;)
[22:54] <anli_> I dragged a file to the top panel in ubuntu, but I only got an icon for a text document, how can I also get a text there so I can see directly which file it is?
[22:54] <Dreamglider> erUSUL: after that comand it laptop got an ip and can connect ! :)
[22:54] <preuhs> comment telecharger un programme sur linux
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> anli_: hover your mouse over it
[22:55] <kfizz> mikalmo, haha I understand, I've been there before...I'll keep thinking on it, but I'm not sure what the problem could be. You don't happen to have a ubuntu livecd laying around anywhere youc ould boot into and test to see if the wireless card works without any other files being messed with.
[22:55] <LjL> !fr | preuhs
[22:55] <anli_> ActionParsnip: i know, but without doing that
[22:55] <Dreamglider> erUSUL: but at the beginning of the reply i got wmaster unknown hardware address type 801 (Two times)
[22:55] <DasEi> kfizz: so you have backups of the jaunty data and can now either format or use it for a whole karmic backup then, no more user files needed from old,first jaunty hd ?
[22:55] <test34> when trying to install the video package for octave, the following is missing: checking for sws_scale in -lswscale... no ? any idea what I need to install? (I tried to search for both sws_scale and lswscale in synaptic but can't find them..) is it missing from my ffmpeg?
[22:56] <istvan> i have ubuntu server running in a VM (virtualbox on ubuntu) - both versions of ubuntu 9.10. I had everything working, changed some router settings, still worked, and now it can't connect to the internet and I can't tell whats broken. can someone help me find where the problem is?
[22:56] <anli_> Hm, I want to be able to save a file which I have no access to save with gedit, prompting me for root password
[22:56] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: dunno what that error is about sorry
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> anli_: try right clicking the bit of space near where the item is and see if there are any settings in there
[22:56] <anli_> ActionParsnip: aha, testing
[22:56] <Dreamglider> erUSUL: np i seem to be connected now, thansl
[22:56] <DasEi> anli_: start by : gksudo gedit ....
[22:56] <Dreamglider> erUSUL: thanks*
[22:56] <erUSUL> Dreamglider: np
[22:56] <mikalmo> kfizz: not at the moment, but it has to be working, since i've managed to connect to the unsecure networks!?
[22:57] <anli_> did not find any settings such that "text label"
[22:57] <kfizz> DasEi, all the important files from the jaunty hd are backed up on the karmic hd now (which is inaccessible)...so I still have the info on the jaunty one because I haven't formatted it yet
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> anli_: maybe theres a settings option in the drop down bit there
[22:57] <DasEi> kfizz: arrgn, you're really confusing, WHICH of the installs is working now ? jaunty ? karmic ?
[22:57] <anli_> looking
[22:57] <kfizz> kfizz, yes the card is working, but there may be some random WEP setting that may have been messed with. If you try in the live cd and it fails to conenct most likely it's a card problem, if it does connect in the livecd then it's a configuration problem
[22:58] <kfizz> DasEi, my apologies. The Jaunty install works.
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> anli_: could try asking in #gnome or #kde or #xfce depending on your DE to see if its a feature
[22:58] <anli_> ActionParsnip: tryuing that
[22:58] <saj> Hi all, I have set up some file sharing on ubuntu 9.10, and I am trying to write to the share from a friends macbook pro. I can see the computer and the share, but when I drag the files to the share, I get a message asking for an administrator password. Why is it doing this?
[22:58] <DasEi> kfizz: and the the karmic already contains new data you still need ?
[22:59] <kfizz> DasEi, yes.
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> saj: on the server run: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     you should now set your password and you will have an account to authenticate with
[22:59] <saj> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I will try this
[23:00] <DasEi> kfizz: so if you ran the hdd as described with sda containing jaunty, they are gone
[23:00] <deleuzer> does anyone know why karmic would force a scan disk on every boot?
[23:00] <DasEi> deleuzer: tune2fs set to ?
[23:00] <DasEi> deleuzer:fstab set to ?
[23:01] <saj> ActionParsnip: sorry, got logged off, can you resend that command?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> saj: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[23:01] <DasEi> kfizz: somehow I can't believe it, did you ran the dd command of a hd, not a live cd ?
[23:01] <kfizz> DasEi, when I run jaunty (which is actually sdb) the older data is still there (as in 95% of my important data is still on the jaunty hard drive, since I've installed Karmic I've collected a couple of important things, but could probably live without them)
[23:02] <deleuzer> DasEi, not sure what tune2fs is
[23:02] <kfizz> DasEi, yes I ran the command booted into the karmic drive
[23:02] <saj> ActionParsnip: thank you, so the administrator name is my account name and the password is the one i just set?
[23:02] <saj> ActionParsnip: Thank you!
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> saj: indeed :D
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> saj: working?
[23:02] <DasEi> deleuzer: let's you set parameters for :
[23:02] <DasEi> !fsck
[23:03] <Gryph> Is it possible to auto-connect a wifi card to a hidden wpa enabled router with no user logged in from a terminal?
[23:03] <deleuzer> cool tx
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> saj: ive always set the password to the same as my login pass, not sure if it makes a difference
[23:04] <DasEi> kfizz: oh man... dd is done from a third drive with unmounted source/destination drive, its sector, not filesystem based... I need a break from that
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Gryph: you can use /etc/network/interfaces
[23:04] <jeez1234> is it possible to fix grub on a different hard disk?
[23:04] <Gryph> ok thanks
[23:04] <kfizz> DasEi: Oooh :( that would explain a lot haha
[23:04] <Daimonic> Hey, I lost my panel icon, to change IM status, to shut down the pc etc. and I don't find it anymore, seems not to be listed under add to panel...?
[23:05] <deleuzer> DasEi, is it safe to skip fsck if ubuntu's registering it as having a broken file system?
[23:05] <saj> ActionParsnip: I was able to connect to that server using that authentication, but when I drag file, it says I do not have sufficient rights. I have set up the file share to allow read and right
[23:05] <kfizz> Daimonic, do you see "Log Out.." in add to panel? I think that may be it
[23:05] <saj> write*
[23:05] <nat2610> hey how can run a X application through su ? I do  su -  <user> <application> and I get cannot connect to X server
[23:05] <kfizz> Daimonic, nvmd, ignore that
[23:05] <Daimonic> kfizz: thought so too, but isnt ^^
[23:05] <DasEi> kfizz: give me a rest of ~ 10 minutes and I call ya back by nick
[23:06] <kfizz> DasEi, alright, thanks
[23:06] <maco> nat2610: use "gksudo" instead of su
[23:06] <DasEi> deleuzer: no
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> saj: check the share rights and add the username with full access
[23:06] <deleuzer> grr
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> saj: i configure mine in the smb.conf file with very specific access
[23:06] <purplefool> i keep getting this message when updating:  E: ttf-mscorefonts-installer: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[23:06] <purplefool> .  does anyone know what it means or how i can fix it?
[23:06] <kfizz> Daimonic, try indicator applet session
[23:06] <DasEi> deleuzer: did you recently change anything regarding your fs ?
[23:06] <ZykoticK9> nat2610, maco or if you're lazy you can save 2 letters and just use gksu instead of gksudo ;)
[23:06] <kfizz> Daimonic, I think that should do it
[23:07] <deleuzer> DasEi, 9.10 upgrade
[23:07] <maco> ZykoticK9: yeah...theyre the same on ubuntu, but not on all distros
[23:07] <diofeher> anyone knows a program to see psd files in ubuntu?
[23:07] <maco> ZykoticK9: at least, i think they're different commands on debian..
[23:07] <DasEi> deleuzer: have you got a live cd ? bootable cd-drive ?
[23:07] <deleuzer> DasEi, yes
[23:07] <ZykoticK9> maco, well most distros don't use the sudo thing at all...
[23:08] <trism> diofeher: gimp can generally open them, although all the layer effects may not work correctly
[23:08] <saj> ActionParsnip: How do I add rights for a specific user?
[23:08] <deleuzer> DasEi, I've upgraded to Grub2 by this point, hoping it would help, but just made it worse.
[23:09] <juanpablo> hl
[23:09] <DasEi> deleuzer: boot into that, open a terminal on live, then on the UNmounted hd : 1) mount   <<make sure hd is offline, doesn't show up 2) sudo fdisk -l <<get /dev/sdXX of your / 3) sudo e2fsck -p /dev/WhatisyourRoothere
[23:09] <juanpablo> Hola
[23:10] <jrib> maco: they're symlinked but the code checks how it's called (gksu and gksudo)
[23:10] <joseamador> xD
[23:10] <maco> jrib: ah ok
[23:10] <seakazam> i have ssh access to a machine, is there a quick way to set up a vnc server?
[23:10] <DasEi> deleuzer: is it a standard install with just root and swap partition ?
[23:10] <iceroot> seakazam: why need vnc if you have ssh?
[23:10] <deleuzer> DasEi, yes only one hard drive.
[23:11] <DasEi> deleuzer: you're on that system now ?
[23:11] <seakazam> iceroot: using selenium, its way easier to debug if you can actually see whats happening
[23:11] <deleuzer> DasEi, yes/but not on irc with it
[23:11] <iceroot> seakazam: use ssh -X
[23:11] <Daimonic> kfizz: thanks man :)
[23:12] <kfizz> Daimonic, no prob
[23:12] <diofeher> trism: thanks, i will try gimp
[23:12] <seakazam> iceroot: problem is, what if windows are already open?
[23:12] <DasEi> deleuzer: run sudo fdisk -l on the "broken one" , tell what you get (or connect to irc, easier with it)
[23:12] <iceroot> !vnc | seakazam
[23:13] <diofeher> trism: it really works :P thanks man
[23:13] <deleuzer> DasEi, waiting to boot
[23:13] <seakazam> iceroot: i dont need to use it securely, the machine is only accessible internally
[23:14] <iceroot> seakazam: then use the vnc integrated in ubuntu
[23:14] <songer> hello, whats the comand to install all extra,like jav, flash?
[23:14] <saj> How can I change permissions to a share for a specific user, it seems I cannot write to my linux share from a macbook pro
[23:14] <ZykoticK9> songer, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:15] <songer> zykotick9, thanks
[23:15] <ZykoticK9> songer, the command would be "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[23:15] <losha> hi, if I do a from-scratch install of 9.10, can I choose to use ext3 and grub1 ?
[23:16] <Spoom> hi folks, new laptop so i'm dealing with yet more hardware setup issues; my touchpad seems to be identified as a mouse by ubuntu but in any case the problem is that i cannot vertically scroll, it just nudges up and down seemingly randomly when i try; any ideas for how to fix this?
[23:16] <Spoom> i've tried messing with xorg.conf a little bit but with no success
[23:17] <deleuzer> DasEi, fdisk -l gives me nothing
[23:17] <DasEi> deleuzer: sudo ...
[23:18] <seakazam> iceroot: i guess my question is, how do i configure the built in vnc server over ssh
[23:18] <Tina-> i have a problem :'( my eth0 interface is gone , ifconfig not shows it, and the module is not loaded, i dont know what module tho, it is an eeepc mk90h
[23:18] <Spoom> can someone just point me in the right direction if i'm being too vague?
[23:18] <deleuzer> DasEi, ah /dev/sda(1)Linux(2)Extended(5)Linux swap
[23:18] <Spoom> i've googled around a fair bit already
[23:19] <ikonia> seakazam: what built in vnc server ?
[23:19] <seakazam> ikonia: i thought thats what iceroot was suggesting
[23:19] <Tina-> plugin eth cable in and out gives noting in dmesg and lspci not finds the interface
[23:19] <Tina-> i worked few days ago tho
[23:19] <DasEi> deleuzer: fine, standard,  dev/sda1 is what you need then for live
[23:20] <DasEi> deleuzer: boot into that, open a terminal on live, then on the UNmounted hd : 1) mount   <<make sure hd is offline, doesn't show up 2) sudo fdisk -l <<get /dev/sdXX of your / 3) sudo e2fsck -p /dev/WhatisyourRoothere
[23:20] <ikonia> seakazam: I've not been following the whole conversation, what are you trying to do ?
[23:20] <crohakon> So the upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 did more damage then good. It failed on Galeon-common, and now I can not update software or install new software.
[23:20] <Spoom> guess i'll post to the forum then
[23:20] <Spoom> thanks for your time
[23:20] <pcude> DasEi: thaks for the help
[23:20] <DasEi> deleuzer: btw  sudo e2fsck /dev/sda1
[23:20] <seakazam> ikonia: i have ssh access to a machine, i'm trying to debug a script that has some visual components that are being displayed on this machine, so i'd like to use vnc to see whats happening
[23:21] <DasEi> deleuzer: check that, report result
[23:21] <istvan> i have ubuntu server running in a VM (virtualbox on ubuntu) - both versions of ubuntu 9.10. I had everything working, changed some router settings, still worked, and now it can't connect to the internet and I can't tell whats broken. can someone help me find where the problem is?
[23:21] <ikonia> seakazam: is there a problem with just installing a vnc server on it ?
[23:21] <seakazam> ikonia: no i dont suppose so
[23:22] <hdtdi> does someone successfully manage to make disc quotas on ubuntu 9.10 with ext4 fs ?
[23:22] <ikonia> seakazam: keep it simple if possible, install vnc, fix your stuff, remove vnc,
[23:22] <deleuzer> DasEi, contains a file system with errors, check forced
[23:22] <ikonia> hdtdi: I don't have it currently but I've done quotas on a 9.10 desktop
[23:23] <LordOfKnights> Has anyone ever done a mas90 deployment?
[23:23] <ikonia> LordOfKnights: try asking the real question, what are you having a problem with  ?
[23:23] <deleuzer> DasEi, just so you know, I've done this before...it will allow me one boot into my regular install then back to the same...unless you've got something up your sleeve after this
[23:23] <seakazam> ikonia: could you recommend which vnc server to use?
[23:23] <hdtdi> ikonia, but with ext4 fs ? because i read in google and there is a bit difference
[23:24] <ikonia> seakazam: they are all pretty much the same in my view, few pro's/cons over diferent versions but nothing that's going to cause you pain
[23:24] <deleuzer> DasEi, but not with the -p switch
[23:24] <DasEi> deleuzer: it should correct errors, but let it do it's job first
[23:24] <brenda> que onda
[23:24] <ikonia> hdtdi: slightly different implimentations, but the confifguration is the same
[23:24] <LordOfKnights> ikonia: you would just say I'm in the wrong channel if I do.  There are no channels for my question though
[23:24] <DasEi> deleuzer: always first thing to do, no args can cause more trouble, if not needed
[23:25] <DasEi> kfizz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337636/
[23:25] <hdtdi> ikonia, can you tell me why i got this error :S http://pastebin.ca/1707541
[23:25] <ikonia> LordOfKnights: then don't ask in here
[23:25] <ikonia> hdtdi: I can have a look, one moment
[23:25] <kishore> Hello,  i am not able to record my voice through microphone.How can i eanble this..Pls help
[23:25] <LordOfKnights> thanks for the help
[23:26] <ikonia> hdtdi: what's the permissions on /home/hdtidi/.gvfs ?
[23:26] <ikonia> hdtdi: have ou fsck'd /home as i suggests ?
[23:26] <hdtdi> ikonia, yes
[23:27] <hdtdi> ikonia, w0w.. w8 to paste in pastebin whats the result when i try to see the permissions
[23:27] <kishore>  Hello,  i am not able to record my voice through microphone.How can i eanble this..Pls help
[23:27] <hdtdi> http://pastebin.ca/1707601
[23:28] <hdtdi> kishore, try unmute or increase the volume
[23:28] <ikonia> hdtdi: looks like a little bit of file system corruption there :)
[23:28] <kishore> hdtdi:I did all of those..but through sound rekoredr i wasnt able to record it
[23:28] <kfizz> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337637
[23:29] <hdtdi> ikonia, i run fsck -C -f -v /dev/sda6 (/home partition) but i dont know what to look for.. but i didnt saw any errors what so ever
[23:29] <ikonia> hdtdi: you didn't do that while its mounted did you ?
[23:29] <hdtdi> no
[23:29] <hdtdi> first i did init 1 than umount /home
[23:29] <ikonia> hdtdi: phew, remove .gvfs file - reboot it should get recreated, lets see if that's the only corruption
[23:29] <hdtdi> ok be right back
[23:30] <hdtdi> root@SocialEvil:/home/hdtdi# rm -rf .gvfs
[23:30] <hdtdi> rm: cannot remove `.gvfs': Permission denied
[23:30] <ikonia> hdtdi: sudo is your friend
[23:30] <ikonia> hdtdi: whoaaa, you're root
[23:30] <hdtdi> i am wroot :D
[23:31] <ikonia> hdtdi: drop into single user mode, do an ls -i on it and remove the inode (dirty hack)
[23:32] <hdtdi> wowow wait wait single user mode.. is like init 1? ls -i and remove the inode? what is inode :) hihihi
[23:32] <ikonia> hdtdi: ok - if you're not comfortable with that, this may not be the best way to go, as a mistake could cause you pain
[23:33] <xhovan> ciaoo
[23:33] <syn-ack> ikonia, Yeah, I probably would have him read up on inodes first before suggesting that
[23:33] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, hdtdi the default permission of ~/.gvfs is dr-x------
[23:33] <xhovan> !list
[23:33] <hdtdi> i love pain :D haheehhe doesnt matter i have to learn even trough the hard way
[23:33] <ikonia> ZykoticK9: he can't set it, looks like his file system is a bit corrupted
[23:33] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, ahhh
[23:33] <syn-ack> hdtdi, you know what the MFT is on an NTFS FS right?
[23:33] <hdtdi> yes
[23:34] <syn-ack> hdtdi, Same concept
[23:34] <deleuzer> DasEi, okay done nothing major 2.9% non-contiguous
[23:34] <syn-ack> hdtdi, lemme find a doc for you
[23:34] <syn-ack> hdtdi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode
[23:35] <hdtdi> thanks
[23:35] <fxfitz> I just updated to Karmic and now my touchpad doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas??
[23:35] <biabia> anyone use open office, wondering if the most recent version saves and opens .docx
[23:35]  * Tina- wants het eth0 interface back!
[23:36] <unop> biabia, it does
[23:36] <Tina->  my eth0 interface is gone , ifconfig not shows it, and the module is not loaded, i dont know what module tho, it is an eeepc mk90h  plugin eth cable in and out gives noting in dmesg and lspci not finds the interface
[23:36] <kfizz> DasEi, did you see my message?
[23:37] <deleuzer> DasEi, Anything else I should do while booted from the live CD?
[23:37] <unop> Tina-, perhaps, the network (interface) was disabled in the BIOS?
[23:37] <DasEi> kfizz: mmh, love letters,lol : http://paste.ubuntu.com/337643/
[23:37] <fxfitz> Does anyone know why my touchpad doesn't work after an upgrade to Karmic Koala?
[23:37] <Tina-> i did not change anything i bios i 'll check in a bit tho
[23:38] <DasEi> deleuzer: you cant start into your normal sys ? then we should check fstab and tune2fs by the way
[23:38] <deleuzer> k
[23:38] <hdtdi> soooooo if i got it right ls -i (to find the number) and then  find . -inum hereisthenumber -exec rm -i {} \;
[23:38] <mMezquitale> fxfitz, it's probably a bug, you can search the forums to see if someone already found a fix, post a bug report on launchpad or keep asking in the room, hopefully someone that has had the same problem can guide you
[23:39] <Tina-> not sure but maybe when i switched from network-manager to wicd and back things got broke??
[23:40] <b0nn> hrm, Im having a bit of trouble with an upgrade, it has died on
[23:40] <b0nn> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtscript4-core_0.1.0-3_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/qt4/plugins/script/libqtscript_core.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libqtscriptbindings1 0:0.1.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1
[23:40] <kishore> can anybody pls help...how can i record my voice ..i tried using sound recorder,.but it says.no stream of data
[23:41] <kfizz> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/337647/
[23:42] <bleck> I have added the "run command" widget to a panel, however, its taking too much space up, anyonw know how to resize it?
[23:42] <rnk> Hiyo, how do I install libc6-dbg on Karmic?  apt-get is whining that it doesn't exist or comes from another source or has been obsoleted etc
[23:43] <rnk> I need it to run valgrind
[23:43] <puff> I'm having a problem with movie player... stuff playing in flash video in firefox seems to work okay, but totem movie player, which was working okay before, somewhere in the past few months has started to have this odd freeze-frame effect.
[23:43] <puff> It's sort of like it's only rendering a frame every 10-20 seconds, while the sound plays normally.
[23:43] <coz_> puff,   did you make sure  ubuntu-restricted-extras are installed?
[23:43] <deleuzer> DasEi, well that didn't work froze at the first splash page
[23:44] <ubuntu> jaja
[23:44] <tyranos> where do skripts belong that get started after X server
[23:44] <coz_> puff,  also ...although this is mainly for dvd playback ...did you run this command?    sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[23:44] <pengu8> anyone knows if they gonna get rid of pulseaudio in futureversions of ubuntu?
[23:45] <maco> pengu8: no, it was added in 8.04 because its what GNOME wants
[23:45] <pengu8> GNOME "wants"?
[23:45] <maco> pengu8: unless GNOME changes their minds and throws it all away, it wont be removed any time soon
[23:45] <maco> yes
[23:46] <maco> it's an expected part of the GNOME stack. that's why your volume applet went away when you got rid of pulseaudio
[23:46] <puff> coz_: Apparently I did neither.
[23:46] <coz_> pengu8,   I doubt it ..pulseaudio is becoming more intigrated into gnome
[23:46] <leaf-sheep> Hi all. I'm trying to compile a package.  Howeer, I'm finished with it and I have it installed (and deb file too). What is the correct way to run it? I ran the command and it displayed that it is not installed and I can install it by using <package>. Any suggestions, please. ;<
[23:46] <coz_> puff,  oh  ok :)  both of those should help out with playback
[23:47] <pengu8> maco, coz_ but pulseaudio causing only troubles to people and eats up performance too... why???
[23:47] <puff> coz_: Sure... I understand that the restricted extras package probably contains drivers (although why it worked fine before, without them, and now needs them, I don't know :-).  What does the second do?
[23:47] <maco> pengu8: thats your view
[23:47] <mMezquitale> pengu8, i wished they would either get rid of it or actually fix it, either way would be fine, it looks like other distributions did their homework and implemented pulse audio in their environment, ubuntu is aching big time because of pulse audio
[23:47] <coz_> puff,  that makes sure that libdvdetc  in installed and working
[23:47] <maco> pengu8: it works well for some people and not for others. how well it works tends to vary by how shoddily the drivers for your hardware were written
[23:48] <osmosis> usb-creator-gtk   doesn't seem to work in karmic.
[23:48] <maco> certainly, greater inter-distro collaboration is needed
[23:49] <lowlycoder> how do I install chrome on ubuntu?
[23:49] <deleuzer> DasEi, on the third reboot attempt, it's at the ubuntu splash screen running filesystem checks
[23:49] <coz_> lowlycoder,  hold on I think I have a link for that
[23:49] <mMezquitale> can anyone recommend a USB installable distro that I can use to fix redmond drive errors and to fix linux file systems?
[23:49] <puff> coz_: Thanks.
[23:49] <deleuzer> DasEi, if I try to escape out of those checks, it restarts
[23:50] <coz_> puff,  working now?
[23:50] <DasEi> kfizz:http://paste.ubuntu.com/337654/
[23:50] <crohakon> I updated to 9.10 and now I cannot watch flash video in firefox, how do I fix this?
[23:50] <mMezquitale> great, update manager just froze my machine, i cant get out of xchat
[23:50] <puff> coz_: Nope, same behavior... do I need to reboot?
[23:50] <tyranos> i want a script to be started after x start , where do i have to put the script to start automatically after X ??
[23:50] <deleuzer> crohakon, do you have nvidia drivers?
[23:51] <DasEi> deleuzer: you are in regular desktop again now ?
[23:51] <crohakon> deleuzer, yes.
[23:51] <LjL> !startup | tyranos
[23:51] <ashann> I have Samsung MP-2010P laser jet..how should i configure it to print on a plastic paper??
[23:51] <coz_> lowlycoder,  i cant find the link right now but if you google  chromium on ubuntu you probably will get a few hits...however  some are old  what you probably want is  the source or daily build of chromium  from google   who may also have a deb pacakge already up on their site
[23:51] <deleuzer> crohakon, check and see if the hardware drivers are installed System >> Admin >> Hardware Drivers
[23:51] <deleuzer> DasEi, no...waiting on the system check...agian
[23:51] <deleuzer> file system
[23:52] <crohakon> deleuzer, eh?
[23:52] <packet-sent> Where in the logs would I find the IP of a machine which requested a remote desktop connection
[23:52] <kfizz> DasEi, simply because there are some albums I downloaded onto my new system, but I can just redownload those. Off to format the hdd and reinstall Karmic, thanks for all your help
[23:52] <deleuzer> crohakon, the third party nvidia drivers
[23:52] <crohakon> deleuzer, they should be... they were before the upgrade
[23:52] <coz_> lowlycoder,   look here    http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html?hl=en&brand=CHMA&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-us-bk&utm_medium=ha
[23:53] <ashann> I have Samsung MP-2010P laser jet..how should i configure it to print on a plastic paper??
[23:53] <crohakon> deleuzer, yes, they are still installed.
[23:53] <deleuzer> crohakon, there's an issue with upgrading with the nvidia drivers still installed, you may need to uninstall them, reboot and reinstall them
[23:53] <crohakon> oh?
[23:53] <puff> coz_: Should I try restarting?
[23:53] <b0nn> how long has the java runtime environment been in the repos?
[23:54] <crohakon> deleuzer, is there a guide on how to do that? And would it not be helpful for ubuntu upgrade to state that before the upgrade starts? lol
[23:54] <deleuzer> crohakon, probably the best way is to modify your xorg.conf change the nvidia driver to nw then reboot
[23:54] <les-laptop> b0nn: a very long time
[23:54] <puff> b0nn: Probably about 1-2 years.
[23:54] <crohakon> deleuzer, nw?
[23:54] <coz_> puff,  for the video playback stuff?  you shouldnt have to but if yoiu had your player open while installing those files you may want to close then reopen the application
[23:54] <deleuzer> crohakon, that's the default open drivers for nvidia
[23:54] <coz_> puff,  are you using mplayer?
[23:54] <puff> coz_: Yeah, totem movie player and vlc, both had the same results.
[23:55] <hdtdi> ikonia, syn-ack i did remove .gvfs not by inode just in init 1 - rm -rf .gvfs .. and it was gone.. but now its the same.. when i execute quotacheck -avugm its still the same error
[23:55] <crohakon> deleuzer, I can still watch video via hulu desktop
[23:55] <coz_> puff,  open mplayer   click on the main window and go to preferences
[23:55] <puff> b0nn: Sun GPL'd java in nov 2006, it was added to ubuntu packages probably in less than 6 months, if I recall corretly.
[23:55] <crohakon> deleuzer, just not from youtube via firefox
[23:55] <piksel> How can I get ubuntu to open all applications minimized?  I hate trying to click open some links to pdf's to read and every single pdf viewer opens maximized, with focus, in front of my browser.  Same issue with all other apps.  Like wanting to start some apps from the command-line and they instantly get focus when they start.
[23:55] <hdtdi> and .gvfs is still d?????????  ? ?     ?           ?                ? .gvfs
[23:55] <hdtdi>  corrupted
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[23:55] <FloodBot1> SkroMa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:55] <coz_> puff,  under the Video tab  make sure you have   xv X11/Xv
[23:55] <deleuzer> crohakon, can you make hulu full screen?
[23:56] <puff> coz_: Okay.
[23:56] <coz_> puff,  under the Codecs & demuxer tab  Video codec family =  FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family and audio codec family = MPEG layer-2, layer-3
[23:56] <crohakon> deleuzer, yes
[23:56] <puff> coz_: There's no video tab, just General, Display, Audio.
[23:56] <coz_> o0
[23:56] <Varakh> hey. i get the following error: mount.nfs: mount system call failed
[23:56] <deleuzer> crohakon, have you restarted firefox?
[23:56] <coz_> puff,   is this ubuntu karmic?
[23:56] <Varakh> i try to mount a nfs volume ...
[23:57] <puff> coz_: No, it's an older version.
[23:57] <Varakh> how can i see if rpcbind is loaded?
[23:57] <nh2> can I mark all config options currently marked with m to be built into the kernel (automatically mark them as Y)?
[23:57] <coz_> puff,   ah  mm  still I cant rememb
[23:57] <coz_> when
[23:57] <crohakon> deleuzer, yes, I rebooted after the upgrade
[23:57] <coz_> puff,  mplayer didnt have those tabs
[23:57] <coz_> puff,  how did you install mplayer?
[23:57] <osmosis> anyone know what is up with usb-creator in karmic ?
[23:57] <puff> coz_: Apt.
[23:57] <deleuzer> crohakon, I just want to make sure it's not some firefox caching issue.
[23:57] <crohakon> deleuzer, nevermind, now it seems to work... *growls* Thanks for the help.
[23:58] <coz_> puff,  open up synaptic pacakge manager    hit the search button and ype in  mplayer
[23:58] <puff> coz_:  Help/About says Totem Movie Player 2.24.3, Movie Player using Gstreamer 0.10.21
[23:58] <deleuzer> np
[23:58] <holmser> I have a whole bunch of xvid videos that are split into 2 discs.  I need a program that will combine them and master them onto a dvd
[23:58] <holmser> any suggestions out there?
[23:58] <puff> coz_: Hm, I guess totem movie player and gnome-mplayer are  not the same thing.
[23:58] <ardchoille> What do I need to install to be able to read/edit sqlite3 database files?
[23:59] <puff> coz_: Installing mplayer now.
[23:59] <coz_> puff,  ok this is puzzling...lf no one can help here you might want to try   ##linux    #alsa  or #mplayer channel
[23:59] <puff> coz_: Cool.
[23:59] <holmser> sqlite3 ardchoille
[23:59] <coz_> puff,  oh it wasnt installed?
[23:59] <holmser> really easy
[23:59] <puff> coz_: Yeah, I was using totem.,
[23:59] <holmser> there is also a database editor somewhere... can't remember the name of it, but it has a gui
[23:59] <ardchoille> Is there a gui for it holmser ?
[23:59] <puff> coz_: It shows up on the menu as just "Movie Player".