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firefly2my desktop lost its panels (taskbar) after a crash, when I try "applications-settings-panel" (right-mouse-click on desktop) nothing starts up (all ok as a different user) | is there a way to just reset the desktop to the default? thx00:24
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jovehello everyone, I have mp3 files at the local and want to burn them into WAV audio for CD, what program of the new Ubuntu 9.10 should be using ?07:57
Balsaqgood morning08:33
Balsaqi printed a 66 page guide off the internet, "ubuntu user guide", do you thin it will help? i will read every page.08:35
Balsaqthin=think*08:35
_Pete__does it have: internet is evil, internet is evil... ?08:36
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Balsaqno just days xubuntu xubuntu desktop guide08:36
Balsaqi will get the other one too if it is good08:36
_Pete_if it doesnt have those its not good08:37
_Pete_thats all you need to know about internet08:37
Balsaqso it has to say.....internet evil?08:37
Balsaqbizarre?08:38
_Pete_right08:38
Balsaqinternet evil?08:38
Balsaqwhat does that have to do with xubuntu?08:38
Balsaqwhatever i will get it08:38
_Pete_it connects to internet so that's evil too08:38
_Pete_notice the sarcasm here :)08:39
Balsaqhmmm....no matter what i will know everything about xubuntu08:39
Balsaqpeople at work are having me "fix" thier computers....almost daily now08:40
_Pete_where do you work?08:40
Balsaqfor a government engineering firm....08:40
_Pete_ok08:41
_Pete_doesnt they have it-support?08:41
_Pete_or you are it?08:41
Balsaqi am not it...08:41
Balsaqi protect it08:41
Balsaqwe have it08:42
Balsaqnow i want to transfer to IT08:42
Balsaqnow that i see buntu08:42
Balsaqi just burned 910 for another guy at work ...just now08:43
Balsaqtommorow another will se the benefit of buntu08:43
Balsaqi do it for free08:43
Sysii don't recommend karmic to people anymore08:43
Balsaqeven but the disks for them, and burn them08:43
Sysiit's too problemfull :(08:44
Balsaqi give then ubuntu or xubuntu every time08:44
Balsaqxubuntu is my favorite but ubuntu is cool...can't run from ubuntu08:44
Balsaqkubuntu is ok but they recentyl got wierd08:45
Balsaqthat plasma thing is....i dunno what that is08:45
_Pete_I think this 9.10 is quite unstable08:45
_Pete_with recent kernels had got many kernel panics08:46
Balsaqbut i must say pclinuxos is nice08:46
_Pete_if you want stable, use debian08:46
Balsaqwell ihave been letting them use my 810, and telling them to halt at 90408:46
Balsaquntil i fully test 91008:46
Balsaqbut i must 910 looks pretty dadgum goog t oo08:47
Balsaqgood*08:47
_Pete_wouldn care a shit what it looks08:47
_Pete_but if it WORKS matters08:47
Balsaqi mean it is strong, contrary to what they are saying08:47
Balsaqbatter than what they say , those ubuntu people are damn good08:48
_Pete_who say so?08:48
Balsaqi have been burning and testing a lot of em for a month or so08:48
Balsaqsome say 901 has a lot of bugs...haven't seen a lot of bugs yet08:50
Balsaq910 i mean08:50
_Pete_I have08:51
_Pete_one being trying to boot 2.6.31-15 kernel = instant crash08:51
Balsaqrock solid....but then again, i am nowhere near an expert.....yet08:52
_Pete_only rock solid linux here is dreambox08:54
_Pete_ubuntu keeps crashing08:54
_Pete_:(08:54
Balsaq?08:54
Balsaqnever for me.08:54
Balsaqone girl gave me her computer...08:54
Balsaqloaded with windows home and virus08:55
Balsaqit would turn on...but nothing else worked...even the power off was useless08:55
Balsaqi installed ubuntu08:55
_Pete_root@dm600pvr:~> uptime 10:55:22 up 274 days, 22:24, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0008:55
Balsaqshe can't believe what happened08:55
_Pete_this is the dreambox08:56
_Pete_almost one year uptime08:56
Balsaqeven though her entire computer was gummed up with hair, dirt and nicotene...somehow i got ubuntu in it08:56
_Pete_http://www.dreambox.org.uk/dreambox-600pvr.html08:56
_Pete_this one08:56
Balsaqso i cleaned all the dirt out and with ubuntu she is soooo happy08:57
_Pete_work very nicely08:57
Balsaqunreal08:57
Balsaqthey think i am a tech?08:57
Balsaqyes it works very well...she says better than xp home...when she got it new08:58
Balsaqnow whr dad wants buntu...i just burnt him a disk...just now for when i go in to work tommorow08:58
BalsaqPete if ubuntu crashes...it must be some od reason...like maybe you use 32bit on your 64 bit machine?09:01
_Pete_no I dont09:01
_Pete_I use 64bit on 64bit machine09:01
Balsaqi still think 64 bit is not where it should be,,,has some issues09:02
Balsaq32 is still best09:02
_Pete_its not09:02
_Pete_http://quadcore.homeunix.net/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic09:02
_Pete_this is my machine09:02
SahkolihaaI prefer 32-bit since I only have 2GiB RAM and I have software that doesn't run correctly under 64-bit.09:02
_Pete_which software is that?09:03
BalsaqPete i bought a new quad core...with 6g ram, it crashe on the 12th day-i got rid of it09:03
Sysii hate those SYSInfoes :P09:03
Balsaqi had the best computer in town...it bit the dust in 12 days09:03
SahkolihaaSecond Life has no 64-bit version. :P09:03
_Pete_Sysi: me too, unless it's my new i709:03
_Pete_Sahkolihaa: 32-bit progs should work fine in 64bit systems09:03
Balsaqi don't know why but 32 bit is still #109:04
_Pete_Balsaq: it's not09:04
Sahkolihaa_Pete_: Not when the software requires a 32-bit gstreamer to allow streaming media.09:04
SahkolihaaUm, it is.09:04
_Pete_if your cpu supports 64bit instruction set09:04
SahkolihaaMore people download the 32-bit ISO.09:04
_Pete_just wasting resources not to use them09:04
Balsaqi know 64 can download bigeer files...but it is weak09:04
Sahkolihaa_Pete_: 64-bit is pointless unless you've got more than 4GiB RAM.09:05
_Pete_Sahkolihaa: it's not09:05
_Pete_as said09:05
Balsaqpete had 8g09:05
Balsaqbut still 64 is still weak for some reason09:05
_Pete_64bit programs are much faster09:05
Sahkolihaa64-bit only helps -some- processing. Generally, I see no speed increase over my system when using 64-bit over 32-bit.09:05
_Pete_especially in calculation things09:06
Balsaqyes faster but the are flimsy09:06
_Pete_I have run 64bit years now09:06
_Pete_and there's no any probs09:06
Balsaqit is good but they lock up09:06
_Pete_and there shouldnt be09:06
Balsaqi want a 64  but they they are not refined yet...can't believe it takes the engineers this long09:08
_Pete_Balsaq: you have any proof of what you are saying? that is kind of hard statement09:08
_Pete_how do you think linux is in most top500 supercomputers if what you say is true09:09
Balsaqif you saw my new 64 bit quad...if youm saw what happened, you would agree09:09
Sysii'll install 64bit next, just need to decide what distribution09:09
Sysiour school server runs 64bit as many others, no any problems09:09
_Pete_personally I have used linux on computers with >30 cores & >60G memory09:10
_Pete_works very fine09:10
_Pete_fact that ubuntu doesnt09:10
_Pete_doesnt anyhow prevent that09:10
Balsaqi know they are good commercially, but on the normal retail level they are still weak09:10
_Pete_Balsaq: they?09:10
Balsaq64's09:11
_Pete_they arent09:11
Balsaqthe ones they sell to cnsumers are weak09:11
Sysibecause YUO had problems?09:11
Sysi*YOU09:11
Balsaqwell iam not the only one09:11
_Pete_Balsaq: but how can you judge the problems are from 64bit or from UBUNTU ?09:11
Balsaqwhere i live, i am not kidding, the 32 bit xp pro rule09:12
_Pete_like you can run 64bit debian09:12
_Pete_or what ever09:12
SahkolihaaI don't use it since Second Life doesn't have a 64-bit binary. I'd have to go about trying to install the 32-bit OpenAL and gstreamer libraries for it to fully work.09:12
Balsaqas i say....in my area the 32 bit xp pro computers rule...09:12
_Pete_lolz09:13
_Pete_luckily I am not in your area09:13
Balsaqit may sound funny but here it isn't even close09:13
Balsaqand i work in a huge corporation09:13
_Pete_so?09:13
Balsaqextremely hight tech09:14
Balsaqhigh09:14
Sysiand?09:14
_Pete_:D09:14
_Pete_Balsaq: post your CV09:14
Balsaqthey count on 32 bit pro to this day09:14
Sysibecause 64bit XP sucks09:14
Balsaqi am just telling you this...not for any reason, isee it literally every day09:15
Balsaqthey love 32 bit xp pro....love it09:15
_Pete_Balsaq: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/petri-airio/5/960/54009:16
Balsaqdon't get me wrong i have buntu all over my house....but 32 bit xp pro is tough09:16
_Pete_I do development for linux09:16
_Pete_so I think I know very well what works and what doesnt09:16
Balsaqyes Pete i know you are great on the software09:16
_Pete_what you say doesnt make ANY sense09:16
Balsaqwell we have over 1000 computer wherer i work....just in that one location09:17
_Pete_so?09:17
Balsaqi am just saying they love 32 bit xp pro...thats all09:17
_Pete_lolz09:18
Balsaqlike its their brother or sister09:18
Balsaqdon't shoot the messenger09:18
_Pete_yes09:18
_Pete_maybe it's better you to stick with that printed thing09:18
_Pete_but unless you have something to proof with09:19
_Pete_better be silent09:19
_Pete_to not make shame of you anymore09:19
Balsaqwell iunderstand you have the technical knowledge...but i just said what i see everyday09:19
_Pete_all you have said is 1000 computers and 64bit doesnt work09:20
Balsaqi didnt say they dont work09:20
_Pete_which 1. might be true09:20
_Pete_2. is not09:20
Balsaqbut 32 seems tougher and more reliable09:20
_Pete_based on your solid experience?09:21
Balsaqi don;t want too stop progress, but those who engineer the new stuff need to get their _____ together faster09:21
_Pete_the one who prints 70pages xubuntu manual?09:21
_Pete_or the one who has run 64bit years?09:21
Balsaqyes  i know,,,09:21
_Pete_:D09:22
Balsaqhey you got me there...just watching the engineers and all the folks at work09:22
Balsaqi won't be so far behind soon09:23
_Pete_behind what?09:24
Balsaqi admit openly i have not payed much attention to computer until just recently09:25
Balsaqsince i discovered buntu09:25
_Pete_and still you can make such a claims as above?!09:25
Balsaqwell i said what i see thats all09:26
_Pete_eight09:26
_Pete_r09:26
_Pete_so you think what YOU see is truth?09:26
Balsaqi admit i may be off09:26
Balsaqi hope i am off09:26
Balsaqcause i want the new stuff09:27
Balsaqand i can buy it09:27
_Pete_buy this http://maemo.nokia.com/features/09:27
_Pete_it has some software written by me09:27
Balsaqbut i cant kill all this old stuff ihave here...can't break it if i try09:27
Balsaqit will boot anyhting09:28
Balsaqwo i paste it and it say i need to ber an operator to do that09:31
Balsaqhi Sysi!09:31
Balsaqi had one too many stolis09:32
_Misio_Hi... Could someone help me to realize why my firefox refuses to run java applets?13:24
TheSheep_Misio_: do you have sun-java6-plugin installed?13:30
_Misio_TheSheep: Hmm... it's a firefox plugin?13:30
TheSheepit's ubuntu package13:31
Sysihave you installed restricted-extras?13:31
Sysithat includes java13:31
_Misio_TheSheep: I'm taking a look...13:32
_Misio_Sysi: Java works. The compiler and JRE are installed... just firefox refuses to play applets13:32
Sysioh, that kind of case, hum13:33
_Misio_:s13:42
_Misio_I've installed OpenJDK13:43
_Misio_Should I substitute it with the sun version?13:43
_Misio_openjdk seems to have a browser plugin too14:03
_Misio_I will try it before install sun-java6 packages14:04
_Misio_have someone switched to sun-java6 from openjdk?14:04
_Misio_It seems to work very well... I will keep OpenJDK for now14:11
_Misio_thank you14:11
cristian_chi14:53
cristian_cI can't play audio cd on my xubuntu14:54
cristian_cHave you ever tried it?14:56
likemindeadcristian_c,15:01
knomeDear diary,15:01
likemindeadInstall "xubuntu-restricted-extras"15:01
cristian_cI've already installed15:02
cristian_cit15:02
likemindeadStrange.15:02
likemindeadTry VLC.15:02
cristian_clikemindead, does it work to you?15:02
likemindeadUh...15:03
cristian_clikemindead, What's your player?15:04
likemindeadI don't know the last time I played a physical CD. LOL.15:04
cristian_cok15:04
likemindead!vlc15:04
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs15:04
cristian_cI use live usb15:04
cristian_cI can't install too many packets15:05
knomecristian_c, which xubuntu version?15:07
cristian_cjaunty15:08
cristian_cI can make many tries15:08
cristian_cI'd like to use totem15:09
cristian_cIt plays one only song15:10
cristian_cthe first song15:10
cristian_cfor all CD's15:10
cristian_cknome, I dont'know if it happens to you even15:11
cristian_cI'd like to know if there is a workaround15:12
knomecristian_c, i remember that's a known bug but can't remember the solution.15:14
cristian_cI don't know if there's a solution15:15
knomethere is.15:17
cristian_creally?15:17
cristian_c:-))))))15:18
knomeyes, but as i said, can't remember the solution right now15:18
knomeand i have to go15:18
knomecristian_c, probably searching the ubuntuforums.org would give you the answer15:18
cristian_cthanks for the info15:18
cristian_cknome, I've not found anything15:19
cristian_c:(15:19
cristian_cI've googled15:19
knomesee you later, i truly have to go15:20
cristian_cbye15:21
cristian_c:)15:21
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h3xcan anyone help me to install canon lbp-810 driver on xubuntu :(16:37
likemindeadhttp://ubuntubee.blogspot.com/2008/02/using-canon-lbp-810-lbp-1120-in-ubuntu.html16:38
johnny_hi in xfce4 which passskey agent i can use for bluetooth17:13
johnny_?17:13
johnny_hi in xfce4 which passskey agent i can use for bluetooth17:16
mthorn_Got kind of a strange problem with xubuntu. I just did a clean install of 9.10, overwriting my 8.10 install. Whenever I try to run a binary on the command line, I get a message like this: "no such file or directory: ./thunderbird-bin"17:58
mthorn_my shell is zsh, but I tried using sh as well17:59
mthorn_I'm in the right directory. I can see the file when I ls, and the perms are right.17:59
mthorn_any suggestions?17:59
dunixmthorn_, does it do this if you change your shell?18:00
mthorn_huh. no, it does not if I actually run chsh18:01
mthorn_I did try changing to sh and it was still happening18:01
mthorn_but yeah, actually changing my shell makes the problem go away. Is zsh buggy in 9.10 or something?18:02
dunixI don't use zsh, nor do I know much about it, but this might be a 'feature' or something that needs to be set in zsh18:02
dunixI believe there is a whole guide on zsh's website that might give more insite, than I have.18:08
mthorn_is there a way to set some kind of filter for which notifications are shown? There's far too many from pidgin.18:41
kubanchey guys, i cannot set nautilus as default file manager, can someone please help me?18:56
likemindeadWhy does the defualt 9.10 login screen still look so shoddy with the default theme? :-\19:50
likemindead(Bars at the bottom "panel" off color, etc.)19:51
knomelikemindead, no idea. :P19:57
likemindeadI may just install SLiM. It's nice.19:57
ZapSCommin4Uwhats up?19:57
likemindeadThe Xubuntu 9.10 login screen looking ugly with the default themes--bars at the bottom "panel" off color, etc.19:58
ZapSCommin4Uhah not much to work with huh?19:59
cody-somervilleI think the default GDM theme for Xubuntu looks great20:02
Sysinot as candy as kdm but not bad20:03
knomecody-somerville, i think the default gdm theme background sucks20:03
knome;)20:03
cody-somervilleknome, then you should have done a better job on it :P20:04
knomeo'rly :P20:04
cody-somervilleif joo say it sucks, 'rly!20:04
knomehehe20:04
knomewell it doesn't... but it could be better!20:05
likemindeadYou don't get any weird, clashing colors at the login screen, cody-somerville?20:05
cody-somervillelikemindead, can you take a screenshot and post it?20:12
likemindeadHmmm... how would I do that before logging in? Ctrl+F2 to a CLI & use scrot with a delay?20:13
cody-somervillesomething like that should work, yes.20:14
zombi-hey22:15
zombi-I just installed xubuntu and it's detected my sound card (the controls appear in the mixer), but exaile wont play anything and I can't work out why...22:16
zombi-The first problem was with restricted codecs, so i installed the restricted extras package22:17
zombi-No application will play anything22:27
zombi-meh, back to ubuntu22:37
mthornIS there a way to reenable control + alt+ backspace? If not, what's the right command to bind to that key combo using the keyboard shortcuts manager?23:37

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