| === JEWS is now known as Guest55145 | ||
| firefly2 | my desktop lost its panels (taskbar) after a crash, when I try "applications-settings-panel" (right-mouse-click on desktop) nothing starts up (all ok as a different user) | is there a way to just reset the desktop to the default? thx | 00:24 |
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| === JEWS is now known as Guest19140 | ||
| Ongacska | Ola bruderz | 07:23 |
| Ongacska | Willkommt auz Wunderland | 07:24 |
| Ongacska | TheSheep bruder Ola | 07:24 |
| Ongacska | Sysi bruder Ola | 07:24 |
| === tien is now known as jove | ||
| jove | hello everyone, I have mp3 files at the local and want to burn them into WAV audio for CD, what program of the new Ubuntu 9.10 should be using ? | 07:57 |
| Balsaq | good morning | 08:33 |
| Balsaq | i printed a 66 page guide off the internet, "ubuntu user guide", do you thin it will help? i will read every page. | 08:35 |
| Balsaq | thin=think* | 08:35 |
| _Pete__ | does it have: internet is evil, internet is evil... ? | 08:36 |
| === _Pete__ is now known as _Pete_ | ||
| Balsaq | no just days xubuntu xubuntu desktop guide | 08:36 |
| Balsaq | i will get the other one too if it is good | 08:36 |
| _Pete_ | if it doesnt have those its not good | 08:37 |
| _Pete_ | thats all you need to know about internet | 08:37 |
| Balsaq | so it has to say.....internet evil? | 08:37 |
| Balsaq | bizarre? | 08:38 |
| _Pete_ | right | 08:38 |
| Balsaq | internet evil? | 08:38 |
| Balsaq | what does that have to do with xubuntu? | 08:38 |
| Balsaq | whatever i will get it | 08:38 |
| _Pete_ | it connects to internet so that's evil too | 08:38 |
| _Pete_ | notice the sarcasm here :) | 08:39 |
| Balsaq | hmmm....no matter what i will know everything about xubuntu | 08:39 |
| Balsaq | people at work are having me "fix" thier computers....almost daily now | 08:40 |
| _Pete_ | where do you work? | 08:40 |
| Balsaq | for a government engineering firm.... | 08:40 |
| _Pete_ | ok | 08:41 |
| _Pete_ | doesnt they have it-support? | 08:41 |
| _Pete_ | or you are it? | 08:41 |
| Balsaq | i am not it... | 08:41 |
| Balsaq | i protect it | 08:41 |
| Balsaq | we have it | 08:42 |
| Balsaq | now i want to transfer to IT | 08:42 |
| Balsaq | now that i see buntu | 08:42 |
| Balsaq | i just burned 910 for another guy at work ...just now | 08:43 |
| Balsaq | tommorow another will se the benefit of buntu | 08:43 |
| Balsaq | i do it for free | 08:43 |
| Sysi | i don't recommend karmic to people anymore | 08:43 |
| Balsaq | even but the disks for them, and burn them | 08:43 |
| Sysi | it's too problemfull :( | 08:44 |
| Balsaq | i give then ubuntu or xubuntu every time | 08:44 |
| Balsaq | xubuntu is my favorite but ubuntu is cool...can't run from ubuntu | 08:44 |
| Balsaq | kubuntu is ok but they recentyl got wierd | 08:45 |
| Balsaq | that plasma thing is....i dunno what that is | 08:45 |
| _Pete_ | I think this 9.10 is quite unstable | 08:45 |
| _Pete_ | with recent kernels had got many kernel panics | 08:46 |
| Balsaq | but i must say pclinuxos is nice | 08:46 |
| _Pete_ | if you want stable, use debian | 08:46 |
| Balsaq | well ihave been letting them use my 810, and telling them to halt at 904 | 08:46 |
| Balsaq | until i fully test 910 | 08:46 |
| Balsaq | but i must 910 looks pretty dadgum goog t oo | 08:47 |
| Balsaq | good* | 08:47 |
| _Pete_ | wouldn care a shit what it looks | 08:47 |
| _Pete_ | but if it WORKS matters | 08:47 |
| Balsaq | i mean it is strong, contrary to what they are saying | 08:47 |
| Balsaq | batter than what they say , those ubuntu people are damn good | 08:48 |
| _Pete_ | who say so? | 08:48 |
| Balsaq | i have been burning and testing a lot of em for a month or so | 08:48 |
| Balsaq | some say 901 has a lot of bugs...haven't seen a lot of bugs yet | 08:50 |
| Balsaq | 910 i mean | 08:50 |
| _Pete_ | I have | 08:51 |
| _Pete_ | one being trying to boot 2.6.31-15 kernel = instant crash | 08:51 |
| Balsaq | rock solid....but then again, i am nowhere near an expert.....yet | 08:52 |
| _Pete_ | only rock solid linux here is dreambox | 08:54 |
| _Pete_ | ubuntu keeps crashing | 08:54 |
| _Pete_ | :( | 08:54 |
| Balsaq | ? | 08:54 |
| Balsaq | never for me. | 08:54 |
| Balsaq | one girl gave me her computer... | 08:54 |
| Balsaq | loaded with windows home and virus | 08:55 |
| Balsaq | it would turn on...but nothing else worked...even the power off was useless | 08:55 |
| Balsaq | i installed ubuntu | 08:55 |
| _Pete_ | root@dm600pvr:~> uptime 10:55:22 up 274 days, 22:24, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | 08:55 |
| Balsaq | she can't believe what happened | 08:55 |
| _Pete_ | this is the dreambox | 08:56 |
| _Pete_ | almost one year uptime | 08:56 |
| Balsaq | even though her entire computer was gummed up with hair, dirt and nicotene...somehow i got ubuntu in it | 08:56 |
| _Pete_ | http://www.dreambox.org.uk/dreambox-600pvr.html | 08:56 |
| _Pete_ | this one | 08:56 |
| Balsaq | so i cleaned all the dirt out and with ubuntu she is soooo happy | 08:57 |
| _Pete_ | work very nicely | 08:57 |
| Balsaq | unreal | 08:57 |
| Balsaq | they think i am a tech? | 08:57 |
| Balsaq | yes it works very well...she says better than xp home...when she got it new | 08:58 |
| Balsaq | now whr dad wants buntu...i just burnt him a disk...just now for when i go in to work tommorow | 08:58 |
| Balsaq | Pete if ubuntu crashes...it must be some od reason...like maybe you use 32bit on your 64 bit machine? | 09:01 |
| _Pete_ | no I dont | 09:01 |
| _Pete_ | I use 64bit on 64bit machine | 09:01 |
| Balsaq | i still think 64 bit is not where it should be,,,has some issues | 09:02 |
| Balsaq | 32 is still best | 09:02 |
| _Pete_ | its not | 09:02 |
| _Pete_ | http://quadcore.homeunix.net/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic | 09:02 |
| _Pete_ | this is my machine | 09:02 |
| Sahkolihaa | I prefer 32-bit since I only have 2GiB RAM and I have software that doesn't run correctly under 64-bit. | 09:02 |
| _Pete_ | which software is that? | 09:03 |
| Balsaq | Pete i bought a new quad core...with 6g ram, it crashe on the 12th day-i got rid of it | 09:03 |
| Sysi | i hate those SYSInfoes :P | 09:03 |
| Balsaq | i had the best computer in town...it bit the dust in 12 days | 09:03 |
| Sahkolihaa | Second Life has no 64-bit version. :P | 09:03 |
| _Pete_ | Sysi: me too, unless it's my new i7 | 09:03 |
| _Pete_ | Sahkolihaa: 32-bit progs should work fine in 64bit systems | 09:03 |
| Balsaq | i don't know why but 32 bit is still #1 | 09:04 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq: it's not | 09:04 |
| Sahkolihaa | _Pete_: Not when the software requires a 32-bit gstreamer to allow streaming media. | 09:04 |
| Sahkolihaa | Um, it is. | 09:04 |
| _Pete_ | if your cpu supports 64bit instruction set | 09:04 |
| Sahkolihaa | More people download the 32-bit ISO. | 09:04 |
| _Pete_ | just wasting resources not to use them | 09:04 |
| Balsaq | i know 64 can download bigeer files...but it is weak | 09:04 |
| Sahkolihaa | _Pete_: 64-bit is pointless unless you've got more than 4GiB RAM. | 09:05 |
| _Pete_ | Sahkolihaa: it's not | 09:05 |
| _Pete_ | as said | 09:05 |
| Balsaq | pete had 8g | 09:05 |
| Balsaq | but still 64 is still weak for some reason | 09:05 |
| _Pete_ | 64bit programs are much faster | 09:05 |
| Sahkolihaa | 64-bit only helps -some- processing. Generally, I see no speed increase over my system when using 64-bit over 32-bit. | 09:05 |
| _Pete_ | especially in calculation things | 09:06 |
| Balsaq | yes faster but the are flimsy | 09:06 |
| _Pete_ | I have run 64bit years now | 09:06 |
| _Pete_ | and there's no any probs | 09:06 |
| Balsaq | it is good but they lock up | 09:06 |
| _Pete_ | and there shouldnt be | 09:06 |
| Balsaq | i want a 64 but they they are not refined yet...can't believe it takes the engineers this long | 09:08 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq: you have any proof of what you are saying? that is kind of hard statement | 09:08 |
| _Pete_ | how do you think linux is in most top500 supercomputers if what you say is true | 09:09 |
| Balsaq | if you saw my new 64 bit quad...if youm saw what happened, you would agree | 09:09 |
| Sysi | i'll install 64bit next, just need to decide what distribution | 09:09 |
| Sysi | our school server runs 64bit as many others, no any problems | 09:09 |
| _Pete_ | personally I have used linux on computers with >30 cores & >60G memory | 09:10 |
| _Pete_ | works very fine | 09:10 |
| _Pete_ | fact that ubuntu doesnt | 09:10 |
| _Pete_ | doesnt anyhow prevent that | 09:10 |
| Balsaq | i know they are good commercially, but on the normal retail level they are still weak | 09:10 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq: they? | 09:10 |
| Balsaq | 64's | 09:11 |
| _Pete_ | they arent | 09:11 |
| Balsaq | the ones they sell to cnsumers are weak | 09:11 |
| Sysi | because YUO had problems? | 09:11 |
| Sysi | *YOU | 09:11 |
| Balsaq | well iam not the only one | 09:11 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq: but how can you judge the problems are from 64bit or from UBUNTU ? | 09:11 |
| Balsaq | where i live, i am not kidding, the 32 bit xp pro rule | 09:12 |
| _Pete_ | like you can run 64bit debian | 09:12 |
| _Pete_ | or what ever | 09:12 |
| Sahkolihaa | I don't use it since Second Life doesn't have a 64-bit binary. I'd have to go about trying to install the 32-bit OpenAL and gstreamer libraries for it to fully work. | 09:12 |
| Balsaq | as i say....in my area the 32 bit xp pro computers rule... | 09:12 |
| _Pete_ | lolz | 09:13 |
| _Pete_ | luckily I am not in your area | 09:13 |
| Balsaq | it may sound funny but here it isn't even close | 09:13 |
| Balsaq | and i work in a huge corporation | 09:13 |
| _Pete_ | so? | 09:13 |
| Balsaq | extremely hight tech | 09:14 |
| Balsaq | high | 09:14 |
| Sysi | and? | 09:14 |
| _Pete_ | :D | 09:14 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq: post your CV | 09:14 |
| Balsaq | they count on 32 bit pro to this day | 09:14 |
| Sysi | because 64bit XP sucks | 09:14 |
| Balsaq | i am just telling you this...not for any reason, isee it literally every day | 09:15 |
| Balsaq | they love 32 bit xp pro....love it | 09:15 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/petri-airio/5/960/540 | 09:16 |
| Balsaq | don't get me wrong i have buntu all over my house....but 32 bit xp pro is tough | 09:16 |
| _Pete_ | I do development for linux | 09:16 |
| _Pete_ | so I think I know very well what works and what doesnt | 09:16 |
| Balsaq | yes Pete i know you are great on the software | 09:16 |
| _Pete_ | what you say doesnt make ANY sense | 09:16 |
| Balsaq | well we have over 1000 computer wherer i work....just in that one location | 09:17 |
| _Pete_ | so? | 09:17 |
| Balsaq | i am just saying they love 32 bit xp pro...thats all | 09:17 |
| _Pete_ | lolz | 09:18 |
| Balsaq | like its their brother or sister | 09:18 |
| Balsaq | don't shoot the messenger | 09:18 |
| _Pete_ | yes | 09:18 |
| _Pete_ | maybe it's better you to stick with that printed thing | 09:18 |
| _Pete_ | but unless you have something to proof with | 09:19 |
| _Pete_ | better be silent | 09:19 |
| _Pete_ | to not make shame of you anymore | 09:19 |
| Balsaq | well iunderstand you have the technical knowledge...but i just said what i see everyday | 09:19 |
| _Pete_ | all you have said is 1000 computers and 64bit doesnt work | 09:20 |
| Balsaq | i didnt say they dont work | 09:20 |
| _Pete_ | which 1. might be true | 09:20 |
| _Pete_ | 2. is not | 09:20 |
| Balsaq | but 32 seems tougher and more reliable | 09:20 |
| _Pete_ | based on your solid experience? | 09:21 |
| Balsaq | i don;t want too stop progress, but those who engineer the new stuff need to get their _____ together faster | 09:21 |
| _Pete_ | the one who prints 70pages xubuntu manual? | 09:21 |
| _Pete_ | or the one who has run 64bit years? | 09:21 |
| Balsaq | yes i know,,, | 09:21 |
| _Pete_ | :D | 09:22 |
| Balsaq | hey you got me there...just watching the engineers and all the folks at work | 09:22 |
| Balsaq | i won't be so far behind soon | 09:23 |
| _Pete_ | behind what? | 09:24 |
| Balsaq | i admit openly i have not payed much attention to computer until just recently | 09:25 |
| Balsaq | since i discovered buntu | 09:25 |
| _Pete_ | and still you can make such a claims as above?! | 09:25 |
| Balsaq | well i said what i see thats all | 09:26 |
| _Pete_ | eight | 09:26 |
| _Pete_ | r | 09:26 |
| _Pete_ | so you think what YOU see is truth? | 09:26 |
| Balsaq | i admit i may be off | 09:26 |
| Balsaq | i hope i am off | 09:26 |
| Balsaq | cause i want the new stuff | 09:27 |
| Balsaq | and i can buy it | 09:27 |
| _Pete_ | buy this http://maemo.nokia.com/features/ | 09:27 |
| _Pete_ | it has some software written by me | 09:27 |
| Balsaq | but i cant kill all this old stuff ihave here...can't break it if i try | 09:27 |
| Balsaq | it will boot anyhting | 09:28 |
| Balsaq | wo i paste it and it say i need to ber an operator to do that | 09:31 |
| Balsaq | hi Sysi! | 09:31 |
| Balsaq | i had one too many stolis | 09:32 |
| _Misio_ | Hi... Could someone help me to realize why my firefox refuses to run java applets? | 13:24 |
| TheSheep | _Misio_: do you have sun-java6-plugin installed? | 13:30 |
| _Misio_ | TheSheep: Hmm... it's a firefox plugin? | 13:30 |
| TheSheep | it's ubuntu package | 13:31 |
| Sysi | have you installed restricted-extras? | 13:31 |
| Sysi | that includes java | 13:31 |
| _Misio_ | TheSheep: I'm taking a look... | 13:32 |
| _Misio_ | Sysi: Java works. The compiler and JRE are installed... just firefox refuses to play applets | 13:32 |
| Sysi | oh, that kind of case, hum | 13:33 |
| _Misio_ | :s | 13:42 |
| _Misio_ | I've installed OpenJDK | 13:43 |
| _Misio_ | Should I substitute it with the sun version? | 13:43 |
| _Misio_ | openjdk seems to have a browser plugin too | 14:03 |
| _Misio_ | I will try it before install sun-java6 packages | 14:04 |
| _Misio_ | have someone switched to sun-java6 from openjdk? | 14:04 |
| _Misio_ | It seems to work very well... I will keep OpenJDK for now | 14:11 |
| _Misio_ | thank you | 14:11 |
| cristian_c | hi | 14:53 |
| cristian_c | I can't play audio cd on my xubuntu | 14:54 |
| cristian_c | Have you ever tried it? | 14:56 |
| likemindead | cristian_c, | 15:01 |
| knome | Dear diary, | 15:01 |
| likemindead | Install "xubuntu-restricted-extras" | 15:01 |
| cristian_c | I've already installed | 15:02 |
| cristian_c | it | 15:02 |
| likemindead | Strange. | 15:02 |
| likemindead | Try VLC. | 15:02 |
| cristian_c | likemindead, does it work to you? | 15:02 |
| likemindead | Uh... | 15:03 |
| cristian_c | likemindead, What's your player? | 15:04 |
| likemindead | I don't know the last time I played a physical CD. LOL. | 15:04 |
| cristian_c | ok | 15:04 |
| likemindead | !vlc | 15:04 |
| ubottu | Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs | 15:04 |
| cristian_c | I use live usb | 15:04 |
| cristian_c | I can't install too many packets | 15:05 |
| knome | cristian_c, which xubuntu version? | 15:07 |
| cristian_c | jaunty | 15:08 |
| cristian_c | I can make many tries | 15:08 |
| cristian_c | I'd like to use totem | 15:09 |
| cristian_c | It plays one only song | 15:10 |
| cristian_c | the first song | 15:10 |
| cristian_c | for all CD's | 15:10 |
| cristian_c | knome, I dont'know if it happens to you even | 15:11 |
| cristian_c | I'd like to know if there is a workaround | 15:12 |
| knome | cristian_c, i remember that's a known bug but can't remember the solution. | 15:14 |
| cristian_c | I don't know if there's a solution | 15:15 |
| knome | there is. | 15:17 |
| cristian_c | really? | 15:17 |
| cristian_c | :-)))))) | 15:18 |
| knome | yes, but as i said, can't remember the solution right now | 15:18 |
| knome | and i have to go | 15:18 |
| knome | cristian_c, probably searching the ubuntuforums.org would give you the answer | 15:18 |
| cristian_c | thanks for the info | 15:18 |
| cristian_c | knome, I've not found anything | 15:19 |
| cristian_c | :( | 15:19 |
| cristian_c | I've googled | 15:19 |
| knome | see you later, i truly have to go | 15:20 |
| cristian_c | bye | 15:21 |
| cristian_c | :) | 15:21 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| h3x | can anyone help me to install canon lbp-810 driver on xubuntu :( | 16:37 |
| likemindead | http://ubuntubee.blogspot.com/2008/02/using-canon-lbp-810-lbp-1120-in-ubuntu.html | 16:38 |
| johnny_ | hi in xfce4 which passskey agent i can use for bluetooth | 17:13 |
| johnny_ | ? | 17:13 |
| johnny_ | hi in xfce4 which passskey agent i can use for bluetooth | 17:16 |
| mthorn_ | Got kind of a strange problem with xubuntu. I just did a clean install of 9.10, overwriting my 8.10 install. Whenever I try to run a binary on the command line, I get a message like this: "no such file or directory: ./thunderbird-bin" | 17:58 |
| mthorn_ | my shell is zsh, but I tried using sh as well | 17:59 |
| mthorn_ | I'm in the right directory. I can see the file when I ls, and the perms are right. | 17:59 |
| mthorn_ | any suggestions? | 17:59 |
| dunix | mthorn_, does it do this if you change your shell? | 18:00 |
| mthorn_ | huh. no, it does not if I actually run chsh | 18:01 |
| mthorn_ | I did try changing to sh and it was still happening | 18:01 |
| mthorn_ | but yeah, actually changing my shell makes the problem go away. Is zsh buggy in 9.10 or something? | 18:02 |
| dunix | I don't use zsh, nor do I know much about it, but this might be a 'feature' or something that needs to be set in zsh | 18:02 |
| dunix | I believe there is a whole guide on zsh's website that might give more insite, than I have. | 18:08 |
| mthorn_ | is there a way to set some kind of filter for which notifications are shown? There's far too many from pidgin. | 18:41 |
| kubanc | hey guys, i cannot set nautilus as default file manager, can someone please help me? | 18:56 |
| likemindead | Why does the defualt 9.10 login screen still look so shoddy with the default theme? :-\ | 19:50 |
| likemindead | (Bars at the bottom "panel" off color, etc.) | 19:51 |
| knome | likemindead, no idea. :P | 19:57 |
| likemindead | I may just install SLiM. It's nice. | 19:57 |
| ZapSCommin4U | whats up? | 19:57 |
| likemindead | The Xubuntu 9.10 login screen looking ugly with the default themes--bars at the bottom "panel" off color, etc. | 19:58 |
| ZapSCommin4U | hah not much to work with huh? | 19:59 |
| cody-somerville | I think the default GDM theme for Xubuntu looks great | 20:02 |
| Sysi | not as candy as kdm but not bad | 20:03 |
| knome | cody-somerville, i think the default gdm theme background sucks | 20:03 |
| knome | ;) | 20:03 |
| cody-somerville | knome, then you should have done a better job on it :P | 20:04 |
| knome | o'rly :P | 20:04 |
| cody-somerville | if joo say it sucks, 'rly! | 20:04 |
| knome | hehe | 20:04 |
| knome | well it doesn't... but it could be better! | 20:05 |
| likemindead | You don't get any weird, clashing colors at the login screen, cody-somerville? | 20:05 |
| cody-somerville | likemindead, can you take a screenshot and post it? | 20:12 |
| likemindead | Hmmm... how would I do that before logging in? Ctrl+F2 to a CLI & use scrot with a delay? | 20:13 |
| cody-somerville | something like that should work, yes. | 20:14 |
| zombi- | hey | 22:15 |
| zombi- | I just installed xubuntu and it's detected my sound card (the controls appear in the mixer), but exaile wont play anything and I can't work out why... | 22:16 |
| zombi- | The first problem was with restricted codecs, so i installed the restricted extras package | 22:17 |
| zombi- | No application will play anything | 22:27 |
| zombi- | meh, back to ubuntu | 22:37 |
| mthorn | IS there a way to reenable control + alt+ backspace? If not, what's the right command to bind to that key combo using the keyboard shortcuts manager? | 23:37 |
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