[00:00] <nicklas_> http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=4p1x9sxejg1phrwys9f6.png
[00:41] <sheldon> hi,  virtuoso-opensource 6.0.0 will be upload to kubuntu karmic ppa??
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> it will be made available along with the KDE 4.4 packages
[00:43] <sheldon> thanks JontheEchidna, i ll wait
[00:45] <nub> nothing!
[00:46] <nub> why is it people in the computer industry seem to be so unmotivated?
[01:12] <david___> where can I find a good xorg.conf for the vesa driver?
[01:15] <david___> how about an entry for grub that boots into a console?
[01:16] <bbigras> even the new flash 10 64 bit version makes Firefox crash on gmail. anoyone found a fix for it or does it works for others?
[01:17] <r00t_ninja> cant you just use 32bit flash?
[01:20] <bbigras> r00t_ninja: yes it's better than nothing but it still sucks
[01:20] <r00t_ninja> 32bit flash on 64bit only has a slight performance drop
[01:21] <bbigras> with 32 bit I often have to minimise FF and restore it to be able to interact with flash videos
[01:22] <r00t_ninja> were you installing it with the flashplugin installer from the repos?
[01:23] <bbigras> yes
[01:46] <tf01535> is anybody here familiar with the multimon program for decoding radio transmissions
[01:56] <xjjk> is Qt 4.6 final available in a PPA anywhere for Karmic?
[01:56] <xjjk> rc1 is still in the kubuntu-experimental PPA
[02:09] <imperindo_> tEsT
[02:09] <imperindo> test
[02:13]  * genii sips
[02:17] <scubanator87> whats a good kde app for using my webcam?
[02:18] <JontheEchidna> !info kamoso
[02:18] <JontheEchidna> you might want to try that^
[02:18] <JontheEchidna> I've not since I don't have a webcam
[02:19] <scubanator87> yeah
[02:19] <scubanator87> i just installed kamoso but it crashes every time i try to launch it
[02:19] <genii> scubanator87: VLC works nicely for me
[02:19] <scubanator87> genii: for just taking snap shots and stuff?
[02:19] <scubanator87> I am looking for something like cheese for photobooth
[02:20] <scubanator87> but for KDE
[02:20] <genii> scubanator87: You can record footage, take snaps, or stream it someplace
[02:28] <gon_> Hola!
[02:29] <genii> !ar | gon_
[02:33] <scubanator87> genii: i found webKam from kdeapps http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/WebKam?content=76902
[02:37] <luux> hola
[02:38] <luux> oh he left
[02:38] <luux> webkam?
[02:38] <luux> lol
[02:38] <luux> LAWL!!
[03:04] <aDe`> hOaEeeEEEEEEEEEEEemmmmmMmMm
[03:06] <genii> !id | aDe`
[03:08] <aDe`> sWEPiNaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[03:08] <aDe`> G bEda jaUh aMbi KUbUraN kiY
[03:09] <genii> aDe`: English here please
[03:12] <scubanator87> luux: whats wrong with that?
[03:15] <aDe`> HoeeeEeEEeeeeeeEeeeeEEeeEEey :'(
[03:22] <leugim> kkkkkk
[03:22] <leugim> BRASIL
[03:24] <aDe`> rOom aNeh.cOm
[03:24] <genii> !br | leugim
[03:25] <genii> aDe`: Bahasa Inggris di sini hanya
[03:26] <aDe`> hO Oh iTreNg iTreNg
[03:26] <leugim> ok
[03:31] <Orion777> anyone around?
[03:33] <genii> Barely :)
[03:33] <Orion777> when I add something to autostart it always asks for admin password, how do I make it remember the pw?
[03:33] <Orion777> or automatically put it in for me
[03:34] <Orion777> at startup
[03:35] <genii> Orion777: Is it a graphical app or a command-line one?
[03:35] <Orion777> graphical
[03:36] <genii> Orion777: So you're running it with something like: kdesudo appname          I imagine
[03:39] <Orion111> well, I can do that, I really just added it to autostart
[03:39] <Orion111> so I put a file in autostart folder that says kdesudo appname then what
[03:40] <genii> Orion111: Are you using kde or using gnome? Since you are crossposting in both channels
[03:40] <Orion777> sorry genii did you respond?
[03:40] <genii> Orion777: Are you using kde or using gnome? Since you are crossposting in both channels
[03:40] <Orion777> kde
[03:41] <Orion777> isn't the method the same in either version
[03:41] <genii> Orion777: Then yes, use the kdesudo appname way. Then you need to edit the sudoers file to allow your username to run sudo apps without requiring a password
[03:41] <genii> Orion777: No, the method is *not* the same
[03:42] <Orion777> how do I edit sudoers file?
[03:43] <genii> Orion777: kdesudo kate /etc/sudoers             then add a line like: username ALL= NOPASSWD: /full-path/and-filename/here/to/that-app
[03:44] <r00t_ninja> Orion777: what is running on login
[03:45] <genii> Orion777: The sudoers edit works for both kde and gnome apps which require superuser access/pass. kde uses kdesudo , gnome uses gksudo
[03:49] <Orion777> it says I don't have permission to modify that file
[03:49] <Orion777> sudoers
[03:52] <r00t_ninja> Orion777: What are you trying to run as root on startup?
[03:52] <Orion777> yes, that's how it comes up in autostart(system settings
[03:52] <Orion777> sudo-to-root
[03:52] <r00t_ninja> ?
[03:54] <Orion777> rootnina, its in the command section
[03:54] <genii> Orion777: I said earlier: "<genii> Orion777: kdesudo kate /etc/sudoers     ..."   <- note the "kdesudo" at front
[03:54] <Orion777> put that in my autostart file?
[03:54] <genii> Orion777: No.
[03:54] <Orion777> .kde/autostart
[03:54] <Orion777> oh in the autostart entry
[03:54] <genii> Orion777: No
[03:55] <Orion777> sigh, I did what you said in sudoers and it said I don't have permission to change the file
[03:55] <r00t_ninja> Orion777: what program are you running on startup that requires root permissions?
[03:55] <genii> Orion777: You put in your autostart something like: kdesudo application-name                 You then edit the /etc/sudoers file by issuing into Konsole:  kdesudo kate /etc/sudoers
[03:56] <Orion777> ok, where in the sudoers file do I put the line
[03:57] <Orion777> rootninja, firestarter
[03:57] <genii> Orion777: At which point you put into the sudoers file:  your-username-here ALL=NOPASSWD:/the-path-to-application-you-want-to-run-with-kdesudo/application-name-here
[03:57] <Orion777> it can go anywhere in the file?
[03:58] <genii> Orion777: You put the line i described anywhere in the sudoers file, yes. SUBSTITUTE ACCORDINGLY the appname,path,username
[03:59] <Orion777> k
[04:00] <Orion777> there is a line in there that says %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL but its commented, that will deactivate pw for all apps?
[04:00] <r00t_ninja> Orion777:  are you trying to achieve not having to type your password in?
[04:00] <genii> Orion777: For all users and all apps. It's an extremely horrible thing to uncomment
[04:00] <r00t_ninja> atall
[04:01] <Orion777> k, I put in the line you suggested, thank you
[04:02] <zhanes> transforming linux in windows
[04:03] <zhanes> hi all
[04:04] <zhanes> r00t_ninja, do you think that update system archives from ppa is a bad idea?
[04:05] <frybye> hi - just installed karmic kubuntu and would like to fix amarok so that it does not ask for the keyring password all the time - any tips?
[04:05] <zhanes> sure
[04:06] <zhanes> where you found your ppa?
[04:08] <zhanes> frybye, i dont understood you correctly, but if your system dont ask password is because you have
[04:09] <r00t_ninja_> Frybye: You could remove the password from kwallet , I can guide you through that if you want
[04:10] <Orion777> genii, I put the line kdesudo firestarter in the kate file I put in .kde/autostart(executable of course)
[04:10] <Orion777> is that right?
[04:11] <frybye> r00t_ninja_: hang on a min brb
[04:11] <Orion777> I have an autostart file, so I put the line kde firestarter in it
[04:12] <genii> Orion777: So you have some file now in /home/yourusername/Autostart               (with uppercase A in Autostart) ?
[04:12] <zhanes> firestart have a option to start at start, dont?
[04:13] <Orion777> can someone tell me if logging out is the same as restarting?
[04:13] <r00t_ninja_> i think putting "ALL=NOPASSWD:firestarter" in your sudoers password should work
[04:13] <frybye> r00t_ninja_: hi - am back on the right pc now... about removing the pw from kwallet?
[04:13] <r00t_ninja_> i think putting "ALL=NOPASSWD:firestarter" in your sudoers file should work
[04:13] <r00t_ninja_> frybye: search wallet in the menu
[04:14] <Orion777> genii, yes I have an autostart file in that folder
[04:14] <r00t_ninja_> and you should find the Wallet Management Tool
[04:14] <Orion777> and in it it says kdesudo firestarter, will that suffice?
[04:14] <Orion777> for some reason, everytime it asks for admin pw not username pw
[04:15] <genii> Orion777: If you put the full path to where firestarter is when you made the sudoers entry, it should work
[04:15] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: can i see your sudoers file?
[04:15] <frybye> r00t_ninja_: found the entry for amarok and passwords but dosent seem to offer much options?
[04:15] <r00t_ninja_> wait
[04:15] <r00t_ninja_> click file
[04:15] <r00t_ninja_> change password
[04:15] <hg> h
[04:16] <frybye> and then...?
[04:16] <r00t_ninja_> click ok
[04:16] <r00t_ninja_> leave a blank password
[04:16] <frybye> use a blank pw
[04:16] <r00t_ninja_> yes
[04:16] <frybye> ok tks...
[04:16] <Orion777> rootninja: in sudoers file, on its own line, it says orion ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter
[04:16] <r00t_ninja_> the information is stored in your home directory anyway so other users wont be able to see it
[04:16] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: ok
[04:17] <Orion777> so now I just add kdesudo firestarter to autostart file right?
[04:17] <genii> Orion777: sudoers entry looks good
[04:17] <frybye> r00t_ninja_: thanks a lot - go test now - see you...
[04:17] <r00t_ninja_> cya
[04:17] <genii> Orion777: Yes, kdesudo firestarter           should work. Maybe also check that that file is executable
[04:18] <Orion777> so path is not needed this time
[04:18] <genii> Orion777: Since is in default PATH should be OK.
[04:19] <Orion777> k, and do I need to restart to try this or just logout
[04:19] <r00t_ninja_> restart
[04:19] <r00t_ninja_> not neccesary
[04:19] <genii> Orion777: You might want to:  chmod +x /home/yourusername/.kde/Autostart/whatever-your-filename-was
[04:19] <r00t_ninja_> well might not be
[04:20] <zhanes> use properties dialog box to do this
[04:20] <zhanes> its more easly
[04:21] <genii> zhanes: When possible I try to give desktop-environment-agnostic instructions
[04:21] <zhanes> well, use it this time, so
[04:22] <zhanes> trought dolphin
[04:23] <genii> zhanes: You assume they are not using Konqueror, or Krusader, or some other thing ;)
[04:24] <zhanes> dolphin maybe?
[04:24] <zhanes> but, all of others have properties box
[04:24] <zhanes> is generic
[04:25] <zhanes> right?
[04:25] <genii> zhanes: Not always. This is why i just prefer to give instructions which don't care about which file-manager someone uses or prefers, etc
[04:25] <lordganesh> in mozilla when i download something and say open containing folder it ask me for give supporting application .how to get rid of it?
[04:26] <zhanes> always
[04:26] <zhanes> and you are right, but is more simple to you give the executable attribute to archive from properties box
[04:27] <zhanes> less chance to wrong type
[04:31] <Orion777> k, firestarter loads but how do I put a delay on it
[04:31] <Orion777> or auto click a dialog
[04:31] <Orion777> a startup delay would work
[04:33] <lordganesh> how to find path of command
[04:33] <genii> Orion777: You can add modify the startup script to something like: wait # && kdesudo firestarter                 where # is a number of seconds to pause
[04:35] <Orion777> and literally put in &&?
[04:36] <genii> Orion777: Yes. The "&&" means to wait until the first thing is complete before starting to run the next thing
[04:37] <Orion777> by the way, can I remove gtk qtcurve entry from my autostart in system settings?
[04:37] <Orion777> there is always this kdesudo error message on startup everytime and it was before we just did all this also
[04:38] <genii> Orion777: If you are running GTK apps (like Firefox for instance) and want them to look something like the rest of your KDE desktop, probably leave the qtcurve
[04:38] <Orion777> all I had in there was nvidia-settings -l, but something is trying to run on startup and erroring, where would I find it
[04:38] <zhanes> qtcurve is eauty
[04:38] <zhanes> qtcurve is beauty
[04:39] <Orion777> yes I'm just trying to find what is running on startup that is kdesudo erroring
[04:39] <zhanes> Oh righ, dont care its a bug only
[04:39] <Orion777> its a bug?
[04:39] <zhanes> nothing to worry
[04:39] <genii> Orion777: Do you have a more exact error message that it gives?
[04:39] <zhanes> this message was appeared here
[04:40] <zhanes> but no more
[04:40] <mildred>  I am looking for some assistance to find the gnome repository.  I just installed mythbuntu, it uses xfce as the desktop.  I want to install gnome but not all of the dependencies are available in the repository list.  What repository do I need to add to get all the depenedncies so that I can install gnome?  Can anone hlp m withthis? When I try to install gnome from the synaptic package manager, it informs me that I have missing
[04:40] <mildred> dependencies.  That leads me to believe that I could resolve this problem if I had the proper repositories configured.  I am looking for the repos but I cant find them. I have tryied  www.gnomefiles.org and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672 Wwith no successful results.
[04:40] <FloodBotK3> mildred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:40] <Orion777> it says that the command is not using any ..what do you call it like the -l in nvidia-settings -l?
[04:40] <Akhenaton> nothing works
[04:41] <Orion777> then it gives the syntax for kdesudo like its telling me how to run it
[04:41] <zhanes> so change syntaxe to recommended
[04:41] <Orion777> of what?
[04:41] <Orion777> I don't even know what its talking about
[04:41] <zhanes> by kde sudo
[04:42] <zhanes> but i think that could be symbol error
[04:42] <Orion777> I wasn't running any kdesudo..just nvidia-settings -l
[04:42] <zhanes> kde 4 has a provblem with symbols
[04:42] <Akhenaton> sudo apt-get remove mono-common libmono0
[04:42] <Akhenaton> stop the reptilians!
[04:42] <zhanes> %20 is present but not recognized
[04:43] <Orion777> what symbol, the dash symbol?
[04:43] <Orion777> its like as basic as it gets
[04:43] <genii> Orion777: The "-l" switch of nvidia-settings means to load a config file and pass the settings found there to the graphical system (X server). Likely you have no config file
[04:43] <zhanes> html symbology like %20
[04:44] <Orion777> but it is working because without it, my settings don't load
[04:44] <zhanes> %20=space
[04:44] <zhanes> change all %20 to space
[04:44] <Orion777> genii, you're saying if I take out the -l it will still work?
[04:44] <zhanes> maybe that
[04:44] <Orion777> but then it will load the configurator
[04:44] <genii> Orion777: Not sure. I haven't had to mess with nvidia-settings much
[04:45] <zhanes> he is affirming that is possible to you dont have config file in x
[04:45] <Orion777> is there a way to auto close dialogs on startup?
[04:45] <zhanes> he is affirming that is possible to you dont have nvidia configuration file in x
[04:46] <Orion777> well, I did save the x config file
[04:46] <zhanes> genii its possible to rhim remove de autostart the nvidia-settings?
[04:46] <genii> Orion777: To autoclose the firestarter dialog?
[04:47] <Orion777> well, either that or this kdesudo error
[04:47] <zhanes> genni i think ha his problem be a autostart that show desnecessary warnings
[04:48] <Orion777> I"m getting a kdesudo error on startup that tells me correct syntax, and I don't know what its related to
[04:49] <Akhenaton> my sound doesnt work
[04:49] <genii> Orion777: Hm. I'm not sure. Wouldn't recommend removing the nvidia-settings unless you feel OK about maybe having to copy it back in there command-line if it fails horribly
[04:49] <Akhenaton> reptilians might be interfering with pulseaudio
[04:50] <genii> Akhenaton: The reptilians and libmono? ;)
[04:50] <zhanes> Orion, go to autostart of kde and if have an auto-start for nvidia-settings, edit the archive or delete them
[04:51] <Akhenaton> yes
[04:51] <genii> Doorbell, AFK
[04:53] <Akhenaton> you know else has the name mono?
[04:53] <Akhenaton> who else*
[04:53] <Akhenaton> THE DEVIL
[05:02] <zhanes> the devil is satan man
[05:02] <zhanes> do you solved your problem, akhenaton?
[05:04] <Akhenaton> yes
[05:06] <zhanes> ;-)
[05:07] <zhanes> if not, use jack
[05:07] <Omar87> how do I know whether I have static or dynamic IP?
[05:09] <zhanes> your ip changes evry time when you connect to internet?
[05:10] <Omar87> zhanes: I'm not quite sure.
[05:11] <zhanes> what your ip now?
[05:12] <zhanes> are you connected to internet throught a near server, or by a payed net provider
[05:13] <Orion777> zhanes, edit the archives or delete them?
[05:13] <Orion777> you mean the x config file?
[05:14] <zhanes> better delet it, to me is a inutil archive, but if you prefer to preserve for security motives, then edit them
[05:15] <zhanes> retire -l or comment
[05:16] <Orion777> nvidia-settings will work without the -l?
[05:16] <zhanes> sure
[05:16] <Orion777> won't it open the configuration settings?
[05:17] <zhanes> if you dont have any configuration file, how you want to load he configuration file?
[05:17] <zhanes> i do not use nvidia-settings, i use kde settings
[05:17] <Orion777> kde settings dont have digital vibrance
[05:18] <Orion777> anyway, why take out the -l when I will then have to close a different window anyway(nvidia settings window)
[05:18] <zhanes> but have gama and color
[05:18] <Akhenaton> why not use
[05:18] <Orion777> where is gamma?
[05:19] <Akhenaton> --rep --til --ian
[05:19] <zhanes> my LCD monitor have a good colors and digital vibrance distorce contrast
[05:21] <zhanes> are you using karmic?
[05:22] <Orion777> I'm using kubuntu 9.10, kde 4.34
[05:23] <Orion777> I just want to script this stuff, like how do I make stuff close at startup?
[05:25] <Akhenaton> GRUB2
[05:25] <Akhenaton> its gnu slash free
[05:25] <zhanes> well you can ertire -l tanquility
[05:26] <genii> Akhenaton: You're being disruptive in this channel and in #ubuntu . Please stop.
[05:28] <Akhenaton> ok
[05:28] <genii> Akhenaton: Thanks.
[05:28] <Orion777> genii, what will auto close to system tray these autostart entries?
[05:29] <Orion777> cause once they open I don't need the open windows, just the little systray icons
[05:29] <Orion777> for instance, what is the kdesudo syntax to minimize, close, etc?
[05:30] <genii> Orion777: Not sure. Usually you'd have a command switch option, but this is dependent on whichever app it happens to be. Also some don't have this.
[05:30] <genii> Orion777: It's not a kdesudo syntax thing. It's an application-dependent thing.
[05:31] <Orion777> to find out, I would type for instance firestarter -h?
[05:31] <genii> Orion777: Perhaps, or check it's manpage
[05:31] <Orion777> it has no non-terminal choice for this
[05:31] <genii> Orion777: I think it has some no-gui option but not sure
[05:32] <Orion777> it says --start-hidden    so I put that at the end of the kdesudo line yes?
[05:32] <genii> Orion777: Probably your best option for that one
[05:37] <Orion777> genii, pidgin does not have an option for this and it fills the panel with one of those app bars
[05:38] <genii> Orion777: No idea on that one.
[05:40] <Akhenaton> racist
[05:40] <bazhang> Akhenaton, stop that
[05:40] <Akhenaton> im being censored
[05:40] <genii> Akhenaton: It's impossible to tell what race you are over the internet in the first place, in order to be able to discriminate against you as you claim. You're just being disruptive and annoying users
[05:41] <genii> Akhenaton: I've given you ample polite warnings to desist
[05:42] <zhanes> akhenaton, are you being censored by your religion?
[05:42] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: there is not much point having <insert name of that firewall config here> as all it is is a frontend for iptables which starts on boot anyway
[05:42] <Akhenaton> reptilians are real
[05:42] <Akhenaton> plus im black
[05:42] <zhanes> you are a black reptil?
[05:43] <genii> Akhenaton: You can discuss reptiles, etc in #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <Orion777> rootninja, how can I see that the iptables is running?
[05:48] <zhanes> r00t where i can find nvsettings version 1.6?
[05:49] <zhanes> (to download)
[05:57] <zhanes> r00t, its serious. my graphic card is legacy and nvcontrol dont run in nvidia-settings 1.11
[06:05] <SeViLLA> ,\
[06:07] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: how did you install your drivers?
[06:11] <zhanes> by envy ng
[06:11] <zhanes> auto-installation
[06:13] <zhanes> I installed nvidia-settings from dapper version, but now adept is calling for update, can i hold the nvidia-settings version and adpt wont ask me for update again?
[06:18] <zhanes> Orion777 Use nvidia-settings in autostart without kdesudo option. kdesudo option is the problem
[06:18] <zhanes> the nvidia-settings -l
[06:18] <zhanes> then "nvidia-settings -l" without kdesudo
[06:20] <zhanes> you can "kcmshell nvidia-settings -l"
[06:20] <Orion777> what is a dummy package?
[06:20] <zhanes> Orion777 You can "kcmshell nvidia-settings -l"
[06:21] <zhanes> Do you understood Orion777?
[06:21] <Orion777> zhanes, I never used the kdesudo option, I just used nvidia-settings -l
[06:21] <zhanes> so put in autostart without kdesudo, use kcmshell
[06:22] <zhanes> --> "kcmshell nvidia-settings -l"
[06:22] <Orion777> what does that do
[06:22] <Orion777> it doesn't open anything?
[06:22] <zhanes> well, will solve your problem with kdesudo warning and will put nvidia-settings in system tray
[06:23] <zhanes> in system traay you always can access nvidia-settings
[06:23] <Orion777> will kcmshell put anything in the systray? by systray you mean the little icons
[06:23] <zhanes> ;-)
[06:23] <zhanes> oh, but is to instant access. Good for administration
[06:23] <r00t_ninja_> wow thanks for that trick
[06:23] <Orion777> yes but does it load the settings in it?
[06:24] <zhanes> in any time you can acces nvidia-settings
[06:24] <r00t_ninja_> nvidia-settings -l just loads the config
[06:24] <zhanes> sure, just loads
[06:24] <Orion777> will kcmshell work for other apps too?
[06:24] <zhanes> will load ~./nvidiarc
[06:25] <r00t_ninja_> kcmshell doesnt appear to work for me
[06:25] <zhanes> with kcmshell you will have the nvidia-settings for all time to acces in any moment that if you want
[06:25] <Orion777> well, I really just want to load the settings at startup
[06:26] <Orion777> if it loads them, I'm happy with that
[06:26] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: i thought it already did that?
[06:26] <zhanes> yes, will load your default and put in system tray to you manage in any time
[06:26] <Orion777> yes, but there is a kdesudo error at startup
[06:26] <Orion777> rootninja
[06:26] <r00t_ninja_> that shouldnt happen
[06:26] <zhanes> r00t, dont worked to you?
[06:26] <Orion777> well, how do I find out whats causing it?
[06:27] <r00t_ninja_> go into system settings
[06:27] <r00t_ninja_> the advanced tab
[06:27] <r00t_ninja_> and then startup
[06:27] <r00t_ninja_> i mean Auto Start
[06:27] <Orion777> autostart section? the only things there are my autostart file and qtcurve gtk thing
[06:28] <Orion777> and the only thing that was in my autostart file was nvidia-settings -l
[06:28] <r00t_ninja_> no kdesudo nvidia-settings ?
[06:28] <Orion777> oh, I was supposed to put kdesudo before it?
[06:29] <Orion777> strangely it works anyway
[06:29] <Orion777> but a dialog giving kdesudo syntax comes up for some reason
[06:30] <Orion777> says kdesudo error no command line syntax, then shows basic syntax
[06:31] <r00t_ninja_> no you wernt
[06:31] <zhanes> i think that could be strange syntaxes
[06:31] <r00t_ninja_> you wernt suposed to put kdesudo before it
[06:31] <Orion777> k, I didn't
[06:31] <zhanes> so i understood you wrong
[06:31] <r00t_ninja_> go into system settings again
[06:31] <r00t_ninja_> advanced
[06:32] <r00t_ninja_> and then session manager
[06:32] <r00t_ninja_> make sure on login it starts with an empty session
[06:32] <Orion777> is this a permanent setting I'll want?
[06:33] <Orion777> so anything I put in autostart folder should show up on system settings/autostart listings right?
[06:35] <zhanes> put in start
[06:36] <zhanes> r00t if i hold nvidia-settings package, the adept warning will desapear?
[06:36] <r00t_ninja_> im not sure
[06:36] <Orion777> what does put in start mean
[06:36] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: your using 8.10 right?
[06:36] <Orion777> rootninja, so I put start with empty session, I want to keep it that way?
[06:36] <r00t_ninja_> yes
[06:37] <zhanes> choose start, not pre-startup KDE
[06:37] <r00t_ninja_> that way when you log in any programs you had open when you last logged in wont still be there
[06:37] <zhanes> yes, r00t
[06:37] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: you might want to consider doing a full install and backing up your home dir
[06:37] <Orion777> so the empty sessions thing will remove the kdesudo error?
[06:38] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777:  maybe
[06:38] <zhanes> maybe pre-startup KDE is the problem
[06:38] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: you could request a free cd if you dont have much bandwith or for other reasons
[06:39] <r00t_ninja_> only the gtk thing should be pre startup
[06:39] <Orion777> only gtk qtcurve is prestartup
[06:39] <zhanes> i have a good bandwidth, but i want to hold nvidia-drivers
[06:39] <zhanes> adept is warning to i update drivers, but i cant
[06:40] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: what drivers are you currently using?
[06:40] <r00t_ninja_> the 96xx ones?
[06:40] <zhanes> i'm using envy ng drivers and nvidia-settings from dapper
[06:40] <zhanes> dappe package
[06:40] <zhanes> dapper package
[06:40] <zhanes> yeah, 96 series
[06:41] <r00t_ninja_> they are available in 9.10
[06:41] <zhanes> sure, but dont run correctly
[06:41] <r00t_ninja_> so if you remove them you will be able to get them again
[06:41] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: they do now i think
[06:42] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: there was an issue with nvidia not uppdating there legacy drivers for the latest xorg
[06:42] <r00t_ninja_> but they updated
[06:42] <zhanes> but my question is, if i hold the package, adept will stop warnings of update package?
[06:43] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: i am not sure
[06:43] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: its probably not a good idea because they would not be compiled for the latest kernel
[06:44] <zhanes> well, i'm nothing to loose
[06:44] <zhanes> well, the idea was hold kernel too
[06:45] <TeXnicer> #kubuntu-de
[06:45] <zhanes> but will give problems with modules
[06:45] <r00t_ninja_> ok lol but i would seriously suggest doing a full upgrade
[06:45] <TeXnicer> iek!
[06:45] <r00t_ninja_> i am 99% sure you would be able to get your drivers running in 9.10
[06:45] <zhanes> lol, i have only stranges ideas, dont?
[06:45] <r00t_ninja_> as the 96xx drivers are offered in the driver manager
[06:46] <zhanes> if you're right, will be good for me
[06:46] <zhanes> but in release of karmic, the 96 drivers wasnt running
[06:47] <r00t_ninja_> the bugs have been fixed
[06:47] <zhanes> r00t kcmshell did run correctly to you?
[06:48] <noaXess> good morning
[06:48] <r00t_ninja_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/391768
[06:48] <noaXess> r00t_ninja_: still online?.. no sleep?
[06:48] <r00t_ninja_> islept from 11pm till 8am
[06:48] <zhanes> r00t is ronin axess
[06:48] <r00t_ninja_> its 7:48 pm now
[06:48] <noaXess> r00t_ninja_: european time?
[06:48] <noaXess> here too :)
[06:48] <r00t_ninja_> New Zealand
[06:48] <noaXess> CH
[06:49] <noaXess> have allready my printing problem.. my apps, kde apps, tb and/or ff won't use the default printer settings from cups.. don't know why..
[06:50] <zhanes> r00t sleeps without snooze
[06:50] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: you see that bug report?
[06:50] <r00t_ninja_> its been fixed
[06:50] <r00t_ninja_> so the drivers should work
[06:50] <Orion777> rootninja
[06:50] <zhanes> i'm reading
[06:51] <zhanes> so i hope! :-)
[06:51] <Orion777> now that I set session to start empty, nothing autostarts anymore, not even pidgin
[06:52] <zhanes> r00t, i was see, the problem is modules
[06:52] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777:  you will need to add that to the autostart
[06:52] <r00t_ninja_> go into system settings
[06:52] <r00t_ninja_> advanced tab
[06:52] <Orion777> no, I mean, nothing in autostart works anymore either
[06:52] <r00t_ninja_> Autostart
[06:52] <r00t_ninja_> then do add program
[06:52] <kindofabuzz> I've been using Linux for only about a year now and have always used Gnome. Tonight I installed and tried Kubuntu for the first time. Wow. Goodbye Gnome!
[06:53] <Orion777> I can't use an autostart file anymore?
[06:53] <zhanes> really orion?
[06:53] <Orion777> yes, even more autostart entries dont work anymore
[06:53] <zhanes> very stange
[06:53] <Orion777> my
[06:53] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: i suggest you delete your autostart folder and start over again with it
[06:54] <r00t_ninja_> open up a terminal and do:
[06:54] <zhanes> have you installed the script from system settings?
[06:54] <r00t_ninja_> rm -rf ~/.kde/Autostart/*
[06:54] <r00t_ninja_> and then
[06:54] <r00t_ninja_> mkdir ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:54] <r00t_ninja_> i will tell you how to get all the applications you want on startup working
[06:55] <zhanes> maybe a fs error
[06:55] <zhanes> r00t had reason
[06:55] <kindofabuzz> what is KDE's equvilent to gksu?
[06:55] <r00t_ninja_> kindofabuzz: kdesu
[06:55] <kindofabuzz> r00t_ninja_: thnaks
[06:55] <zhanes> kdesudo
[06:58] <Orion777> strangely it also wiped out the configuration files of external programs
[06:58] <Orion777> my settings for pidgeon are all gone
[06:58] <Orion777> pidgin
[07:00] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: did you run the command exactly as i said?
[07:00] <r00t_ninja_> also do you get that kdesudo error on login?
[07:01] <Orion777> which command, no I don't get the error anymore but nothing loads anymore either and it seems to have stripped the colors from the app guis
[07:02] <r00t_ninja_> ok go into system settings
[07:02] <r00t_ninja_> and then autstart
[07:02] <r00t_ninja_> and then autostart
[07:02] <zhanes> maybe you could be a backup =/
[07:02] <r00t_ninja_> is there anythin in there?
[07:04] <zhanes> maybe you could be do a backup =/
[07:05] <zhanes> well no time for cry
[07:06] <noaXess> have allready my printing problem.. my apps, kde apps, tb and/or ff won't use the default printer settings from cups.. don't know why..
[07:06] <zhanes> you can configure pidgin again, dont/
[07:06] <noaXess> anyone an idea? tip, hint?
[07:06] <zhanes> you can configure pidgin again, dont?
[07:06] <r00t_ninja_> noaXess: im dont know what that problem is
[07:09] <zhanes> r00t, worked to you kcmshell trick to nvidia-settings?
[07:11] <zhanes> adept is annoying me with your warnings
[07:13] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: no that kcshell trick hasnt worked but my nvidia settings already restore on boot
[07:13] <r00t_ninja_> i mean on login
[07:14] <zhanes> well, i think that need to be a desktop autostart
[07:14] <r00t_ninja_> you said it would make an icon appear in the systemtray right?
[07:15] <zhanes> right
[07:15] <r00t_ninja_> kcmshell nvidia-settings ?
[07:15] <zhanes> yep
[07:18] <r00t_ninja_> ill try alltray
[07:20] <zhanes> hiorion
[07:20] <Orion777> yes
[07:21] <zhanes> progress?
[07:21] <zhanes> solved you problem?
[07:21] <Orion777> well, kdesudo error is back..it has something to do with using an autostart file in general
[07:22] <Tm_T> Orion777: what you are trying to do?
[07:22] <Orion777> I am trying to autostart apps and nvidia-settings -l on startup
[07:23] <Tm_T> Orion777: hmmm, does these apps show in application menu?
[07:23] <Orion777> yes
[07:23] <r00t_ninja_> remember those changes you made to your sudoers file?
[07:24] <Tm_T> ....what changes?
[07:24] <r00t_ninja_> you should probably undo them
[07:24] <r00t_ninja_> its was ages ago
[07:24] <r00t_ninja_> someone suggested it for something
[07:24] <r00t_ninja_> cant remember what
[07:25] <Tm_T> Orion777: you should only need to copy those application .desktop files to ~/.kde/Autostart/
[07:26] <Orion777> but I want them to minimize to systray on startup
[07:26] <zhanes> yeah, the better alternative
[07:26] <Orion777> and also I am using the wait command to prolong the startup of one of them
[07:27] <r00t_ninja_> by wait do you mean sleep?
[07:27] <Tm_T> Orion777: hmm, does those apps have option to start them in systray itself?
[07:27] <Orion777> otherwise it shows this annoying dialog window, also I don't know what is causing this kdesudo error
[07:27] <Orion777> tmt, no, they dont
[07:27] <r00t_ninja_> try kdocker
[07:27] <Orion777> rootninja by wait I mean wait (time) && kdesudo app
[07:28] <Orion777> && kdesudo rather
[07:28] <zhanes> have a option to run in silence
[07:28] <r00t_ninja_> why are your running it with kdesudo?
[07:28] <zhanes> i dont remember now
[07:29] <Orion777> why am I running firestarter with kdesudo? cause I was told to, is that not correct?
[07:29] <Tm_T> r00t_ninja_: if application is gui app, you should NOT use plain sudo
[07:29] <r00t_ninja_> no but what application
[07:29] <zhanes> you can create a .desktopto run in shell with silence
[07:29] <r00t_ninja_> oh firestarter
[07:29] <zhanes> i will find to you the commands, give me a minutews
[07:29] <r00t_ninja_> firestarter is only used for configuring the firewall though?
[07:29] <jussi01> !ufw
[07:29] <Tm_T> r00t_ninja_: and to monitor network usage too
[07:30] <r00t_ninja_> kde has a plasma widget to monitor network usage
[07:30] <Tm_T> btw Firestarter is pretty much unmaintained, so whatever bugs it has prolly stays there
[07:30] <Orion777> so once guarddog has configured the settings it is no longer needed?
[07:30] <Tm_T> Orion777: yes
[07:30] <r00t_ninja_> same with firestarter
[07:31] <Tm_T> Orion777: typically you need firewall tools only to configure
[07:31] <Orion777> but guarddog may be able to configure it better?
[07:31] <r00t_ninja_> i wouldnt know
[07:32] <Orion777> and for pidgeon, I just put pidgeon in the autostart file?
[07:32] <Orion777> pidgin
[07:32] <r00t_ninja_> yes
[07:32] <r00t_ninja_> although you could consider kopete
[07:32] <r00t_ninja_> since its a kde application
[07:32] <Tm_T> Orion777: ummm, doesn't pidgin get autostarted automatically if you leave it open?
[07:32] <r00t_ninja_> Tm_T:  session restore is disabled
[07:32] <Tm_T> oh, hrrr
[07:33] <Orion777> k, and for nvidia-settings -l, it still seems to be generating the kdesudo error
[07:33] <r00t_ninja_> he could enable it though
[07:33] <Orion777> so I set it to restore last login?
[07:33] <Tm_T> Orion777: or saved session
[07:33] <zhanes> copy desktop from your kickoff to Autostart
[07:33] <r00t_ninja_> are you running nvidia-settings -l with kdesudo ?
[07:33] <Tm_T> zhanes: that too
[07:33] <Orion777> no, I'm just running nvidia-settings -l
[07:34] <r00t_ninja_> it shouldnt be creating an error then
[07:34] <Orion777> let me try this again with these new tips and I will give feedback
[07:34] <Tm_T> Orion777: what this "nvidia-settings -l" should do?
[07:34] <r00t_ninja_> restores the nvidia settings configuration
[07:34] <Orion777> tmt, it loads my nvidia settings such as digital vibrance
[07:34] <r00t_ninja_> --load-configuration-only
[07:34] <r00t_ninja_> thats what the -l is for
[07:35] <zhanes> Orion, copy .desktop from your KDE kickoff to your autostart
[07:35] <Tm_T> erp
[07:35] <zhanes> then put option -l
[07:35] <zhanes> then erase older nvidia-settings autostart
[07:35] <Orion777> how do I copy .desktop from kde kickoff to autostart
[07:35] <Orion777> what does that mean
[07:35] <zhanes> drag and drop
[07:36] <Orion777> kde kickoff is k menu right?
[07:36] <zhanes> right
[07:36] <zhanes> drag the file and drop pasting to AutoStart
[07:36] <Tm_T> Orion777: -l, --load-config-only    Load the configuration file, send the values specified therein to the X server, and exit.  This mode of operation is useful to place i your .xinitrc file, for example.
[07:36] <Orion777> I don't see a .desktop in there just a bunch of apps
[07:37] <Tm_T> Orion777: nvidia-settings should NOT use any sudo anyway IIRC
[07:37] <zhanes> then click properties and add -l option
[07:37] <zhanes> yeah, sudo is your problem
[07:38] <zhanes> you need to put nvidia-settings without kdesudo
[07:38] <Orion777> I never used kdesudo
[07:39] <Tm_T> Orion777: you would only need simple script with that I suppose
[07:39] <Orion777> anyway, let me try what all this, and I wil report back ty
[07:46] <Orion777> k, well, no errors and seems to be working correctly now, how to keep sessions loading like this and not always remembering? is that manually saved session setting?
[07:47] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: yes
[07:48] <Orion777> k that should be that then
[07:49] <r00t_ninja_> i think to save you can run the command dbus-send --dest=org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession
[08:29] <zhanes> Orion777 are you here?
[08:30] <zhanes> Tm_T, Orion777 solved his problem?
[08:33] <Tm_T> zhanes: no idea
[08:35] <zhanes> i'm using .desktop from kickoff as well
[08:35] <zhanes> to me is running well
[08:36] <zhanes> r00t_nija was gone?
[08:37] <zhanes> i think that Orion777 problem is a bug of KDE 4 update, a bug to first install nvidia-settings
[08:38] <zhanes> maybe a config shadow
[08:38] <Tm_T> zhanes: does this bug has number?
[08:38] <Tm_T> s/has/have/
[08:39] <zhanes> in past i was a same problem
[08:39] <zhanes> was naturally solved with new updates
[08:40] <Tm_T> in past was when?
[08:40] <zhanes> some days before
[08:40] <Tm_T> ok
[08:41] <zhanes> kdesudo shows stupid warnings at startup
[08:41] <Tm_T> zhanes: I wonder how that would do with nvidia-settings though
[08:41] <zhanes> them without reason, like theres no reason to show warnings, the problem was gonne
[08:42] <zhanes> so I am too Tm_T
[08:42] <xjjk> hello, is there a PPA with Qt 4.6 final somewhere? kubuntu-experimental still only has 4.6rc1
[08:43] <zhanes> and today Orion777 gives me a idea to satart up nvidia-settings working better using a .desktop configuration
[08:45] <Tm_T> xjjk: I think it will be available when KDE 4.4 SC beta1 is available
[08:45] <xjjk> Tm_T: ah, makes sense
[08:46] <zhanes> well, in lucid, not?
[08:47] <phant0m_> anyone else having flash problems?
[08:48] <Tm_T> zhanes: there yes
[08:48] <zhanes> i'am
[08:48] <zhanes> i ahve
[08:48] <zhanes> i have
[08:49] <Orion777> how do I see if my firewall is running?
[08:49] <zhanes> problem with flashplayer 10 crashing when in fullscreen mode
[08:49] <phant0m_> my wont play bbc iplayer
[08:49] <zhanes> bbc works fine here
[08:50] <phant0m_> orion goto system admin
[08:50] <Orion777> where is it?
[08:50] <phant0m_> system at the top left
[08:50] <phant0m_> your firewall should be in there
[08:50] <Orion777> where is system
[08:50] <zhanes> maybe your problem is script blocker in your browser
[08:51] <phant0m_> orion where applications and places are at the top left of the screen
[08:51] <phant0m_> zhanes are you on about noscript?
[08:52] <Orion777> phantom, there's nothing there
[08:52] <Orion777> on the desktop?
[08:52] <zhanes> i use noscript
[08:52] <phant0m_> me too zhanes
[08:52] <zhanes> so, unblock bbc
[08:52] <phant0m_> i have it doesnt do anything works fine on 4od
[08:53] <phant0m_> just not on iplayer
[08:53] <Orion777> phantom, there is nothing like that in upper left of desktop
[08:53] <zhanes> if persists, go to preferences and allow permitions for java and left only noscript managing scripts
[08:53] <Orion777> zhanes, do you know what he's talking abouut?
[08:53] <phant0m_> ??ok cheers zhanes
[08:53] <zhanes> wich firefox version are you using?
[08:53] <phant0m_> latest
[08:54] <phant0m_> orion alt f2
[08:54] <phant0m_> then type in the name of your firewall
[08:54] <Orion777> but the firewall is built into kabuntu
[08:54] <zhanes> firefox 3.5 has many bugs
[08:54] <Orion777> iptables
[08:54] <phant0m_> hmmm hope they pan tht one out soon zhanes
[08:54] <zhanes> firefox 3.0.15 is more stable
[08:54] <phant0m_> ok brb orion
[08:55] <zhanes> Orion, I dont understood you
[08:55] <phant0m_> orion do you have a panel at the top of your screen
[08:56] <phant0m_> shows time date etc
[08:56] <zhanes> Orion, he talking about plasma widgets
[08:56] <phant0m_> whats he on kde?
[08:56] <Orion777> yes, kde
[08:56] <phant0m_> i use gnome
[08:56] <phant0m_> so i cant help you there pal
[08:57] <phant0m_> sorry
[08:57] <zhanes> Orion, wich firewall you are using?
[08:57] <r00t_ninja_> whats the problem?
[08:57] <phant0m_> hmmm thinking about downgrading firefox
[08:57] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: iptables
[08:57] <zhanes> iptables? is it a firewall?
[08:57] <r00t_ninja_> yes
[08:57] <phant0m_> yes
[08:57] <Orion777> rootninja, I want to see if my firewall is running
[08:58] <zhanes> and is it good?
[08:58] <phant0m_> yes
[08:58] <phant0m_> it keeps things organized
[08:58] <Orion777> where do I find out?
[08:58] <zhanes> i'm using firestarter, its pretty
[08:58] <phant0m_> i use firestarter at the moment
[08:58] <r00t_ninja_> iptables -L
[08:58] <r00t_ninja_> firestarter is justa frontend for iptables
[08:58] <zhanes> have guard dog too, so good and pretty
[08:58] <Orion777> I was told firestarter is just a configuration utility, than once you run it its irrelevant
[08:59] <zhanes> oh, so is a good firewall
[08:59] <phant0m_> ive heard that too orion
[08:59] <zhanes> Orion, use the wizzard
[08:59] <meowbuntu> hi how can i change the default style of boot loader for grub 2.
[08:59] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: it is
[09:00] <phant0m_> orion it works in pretty much the same way as any firewall just better than alot of them thats all
[09:00] <Orion777> rootninja, iptables -l is not an option and there is no option in iptables to start firewall or check on firewall
[09:01] <zhanes> firestart is a frontend of iptables, i have knowing abot this today for first time =P
[09:01] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: -l
[09:01] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: -l
[09:01] <r00t_ninja_> -L
[09:01] <Orion777> yes, that's what I did
[09:01] <r00t_ninja_> capital?
[09:01] <phant0m_> case sensitive orion
[09:01] <r00t_ninja_> and as root
[09:01] <r00t_ninja_> eg
[09:01] <r00t_ninja_> sudo iptables -L
[09:01] <phant0m_> sudo su
[09:02] <Orion777> no, I put lowercase
[09:02] <Orion777> it says -l requires an argument
[09:02] <phant0m_> upper case
[09:02] <r00t_ninja_> put uppercase
[09:02] <phant0m_> put uppercase
[09:02] <phant0m_> lol
[09:03] <Orion777> k, its saying a bunch of random stuff down the screen
[09:03] <r00t_ninja_> those are your rules
[09:03] <r00t_ninja_> it will be running
[09:03] <Orion777> yes but is it on?
[09:03] <r00t_ninja_> yes
[09:03] <r00t_ninja_> it is always on
[09:03] <r00t_ninja_> it just depends on the rules you have set with firestarter
[09:03] <Orion777> k, well I set my rules with firestarter autoconfig.is that ok?
[09:04] <Orion777> I didn't manually set anything
[09:04] <phant0m_> decide for yourself orion
[09:04] <Orion777> because I don't have the expertise for that..don't any of them set the config for you?
[09:04] <phant0m_> its ok if thats what you want to do with the firewall
[09:04] <r00t_ninja_> firestarter does
[09:04] <r00t_ninja_> you use firestarter to edit the firewall rules
[09:04] <Orion777> and once I set it I can close and forget it?
[09:05] <r00t_ninja_> yes
[09:05] <Orion777> k, well I don't know how to set rules correctly so I'll just use the auto config
[09:05] <phant0m_> take it your quite new to ubuntu orion ?
[09:05] <Orion777> yes
[09:05] <phant0m_> ok brb
[09:05] <Orion777> but already I've managed to make it visually on par with win 7 and running all the basic stuff I use
[09:05] <zhanes> put a firestarter.desktop in autostart
[09:06] <r00t_ninja_> zhanes: there is no need
[09:06] <phant0m_> http://www.linuxtopia.org/
[09:06] <r00t_ninja_> firestarter is just a friendly configuration editor for iptables
[09:06] <phant0m_> look at this orion
[09:06] <r00t_ninja_> iptables is a kernel module
[09:06] <zhanes> why not, what his problem. i cant understand
[09:06] <r00t_ninja_> *buntu will load iptables on boot
[09:07] <zhanes> but have a option to autostart on boot in firestarter wizzard
[09:07] <Orion777> mine doesn't have that
[09:07] <Orion777> did you get the version from the actual website?
[09:08] <zhanes> always has, dont?
[09:08] <r00t_ninja_> it doesnt matter though
[09:08] <r00t_ninja_> your firewall is enabled on boot
[09:08] <zhanes> start firestarter at boot
[09:10] <Orion777> when I loaded firestarter it said my firewall was off
[09:10] <Orion777> and it has no autoconfig
[09:11] <r00t_ninja_> make sure you turn it on
[09:11] <r00t_ninja_> after you turn it on you can forget about it
[09:11] <Orion777> it has no rules in it though
[09:11] <r00t_ninja_> you have to set them
[09:12] <Orion777> I dont know how, that's the problem
[09:12] <Orion777> I would like one to set the best rules for me
[09:13] <r00t_ninja_> ill  install it and have a look around
[09:13] <Orion777> k, thanks
[09:19]  * vasko is gone. Gone since Mon Nov  9 10:00:00 2009
[09:19] <Tm_T> !away > vasko
[09:20] <r00t_ninja_> Orion777: try gufw
[09:20] <r00t_ninja_> its much easier
[09:22] <Orion777> I tried that but I still don't know how to manual setup a firewall
[09:23] <r00t_ninja_> what do you mean?
[09:23] <zhanes> run firestarter wizzard
[09:23] <Orion777> I did, but when I look in rules there aren't any
[09:24] <zhanes> dont it can save configuation?
[09:24] <zhanes> when you look in rules there no more your optmized configuration?
[09:25] <Orion777> there aren't any rules and I'm not knowledgable enough to manually create all the rules for a firewall
[09:26] <Orion777> gufw is manual also, so is guarddog
[09:27] <r00t_ninja_> gufw you can just tell it to block all incoming connections
[09:27] <r00t_ninja_> you should just do that
[09:27] <Orion777> it'll still allow everything including instant messaging to work?
[09:27] <Orion777> downloading and everything
[09:27] <r00t_ninja_> yes
[09:28] <laboratorio> it's very good
[09:28] <zhanes> very stange, cause here i runned the configuration just one time
[09:28] <laboratorio> One time?
[09:28] <zhanes> and i'm using with same configuration of first time
[09:28] <r00t_ninja_> open it up , tick the enabled box and then set default to deny
[09:30] <r00t_ninja_> oh well im off to sleep
[09:30] <zhanes> yes, i was made the configuration throught the wizzard in instalation of firestarter
[09:32] <Orion777> it has basic options but no rules for the actual firewall
[09:33] <zhanes> no rules, explain it to me
[09:34] <zhanes> you are calling about ICMP filte?
[09:34] <Orion777> it has no wizard config for what to do with tcp or certain ports or any of that
[09:35] <zhanes> do you want to open tpc ports?
[09:36] <zhanes> do you want to open tcp ports?
[09:37] <zhanes> if yes, you can configure it in event list
[09:37] <zhanes> if yes, you can configure it in events list
[09:43] <meowbuntu> does ubuntu/kubuntu come with grub or grub 2 by default
[09:44] <zhanes> it comes, dont?
[09:46] <Orion777> comes with grub 1.7 or something
[09:46] <bazhang> meowbuntu, fresh install? grub2
[09:47] <Orion777> well 1.97beta\
[09:48] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[09:49] <meowbuntu> bazhang,  i have a fresh install. can you please explain this then. http://pastebin.com/d2306dcaa
[09:49] <bazhang> meowbuntu, I see you are crossposting in #ubuntu
[10:01] <Orion777> anyone here?
[10:04] <zhanes> me, till
[10:05] <zhanes> did?
[10:05] <zhanes> Orion, i was put my nvidia-settings.desktop in .kde/AutoStart and works well
[10:06] <zhanes> with option -l
[10:07] <zhanes> and ksystraycmd crashes with nvidia-settings :-(
[10:07] <zhanes> with kcmshell too
[10:10] <kindofabuzz> how do i get amarok to ask me to use kwallet again so i can use last.fm? i've tried deleting amarok's settings in ~
[10:37] <meowbuntu> i typed this command "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg" how do i set it to point to partition 6 please
[10:37] <bazhang> !crosspost | meowbuntu
[10:38] <meowbuntu> bazhang, ok point taken
[10:38] <meowbuntu> bazhang, can you help me anyway
[10:42] <Ranarama> I'm not sure how I did it, think I messed around in alsamixer and the sound started working, but today, after I turned on my computer, the sound is gone again. What might have happened?
[10:43] <meowbuntu> Ranarama, do you have an onboard sound  and a sound card ????
[10:44] <meowbuntu> Ranarama, that can cause conflicts.
[10:44] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[10:47] <Ranarama> meowbuntu: I think I might have that, how do I list them in terminal and choose the right one? Looks like NVidia CK804 is chosen in Alsamixer atm
[10:48] <meowbuntu> Ranarama, you need to disable the onboard one in bios to get sound card working
[10:49] <meowbuntu> i had same problem
[10:50] <Ranarama> meowbuntu: Ok, I'll give that a try, bbl
[10:53] <pascal> Any word on when 4.4 Beta 1 packages will be out for Karmic?
[10:58] <Ranarama> Well, that seemed to have done the trick. Looking forward not having to mess around with the sound anymore :D
[10:59] <meowbuntu> Ranarama, conflict with devices
[10:59] <meowbuntu> now soeted great have fun
[11:05] <Ranarama> Anyone got any idea which plugin I should choose to play media in Firefox? Is VLC a good choice?
[11:09] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[11:09] <Orion777> is there a way to make the entries on the taskbar smaller?
[11:11] <zhanes> Ranarama to me is a good choice
[11:14] <Orion777> zhanes, is there a way to change the size of the bars on the taskbar?
[11:14] <zhanes> taskbar of satart menu?
[11:15] <Orion777> taskbar
[11:16] <zhanes> well
[11:16] <zhanes> unblock widgets, then click in a alien figure right side of taskbar
[11:17] <zhanes> then will appear a sliders to you redefine the size of taskbar
[11:17] <Orion777> alien figure?
[11:17] <Ranarama> Yellow thing to the right
[11:18] <zhanes> yeah, a son of Alien 3
[11:18] <Ranarama> It appears if you keep the mousepointer at it
[11:18] <zhanes> that strange yellow figure
[11:18] <Orion777> k it made the taskbar smaller
[11:19] <Ranarama> Then do the opposite to make it bigger :P
[11:19] <zhanes> KDE have a many aliens by all sides
[11:20] <zhanes> I listened a talk about the KDE team be fascined by aliens and another worlds
[11:21] <zhanes> i dont know if it is true.
[11:37] <rodislav> hi!
[11:38] <Ranarama> Hi Rodislav!
[11:42] <kushal_> i need help compiling in qt creator
[11:44] <kushal_> the build stops saying no valid qt version set
[11:44] <tsimpson> kushal_: there is already a package available
[11:44] <tsimpson> !info qtcreator
[11:46] <kushal_> tsimpson: i have installed qtcreator. But cannot compile
[11:46] <ubsafder> how ican i use kdm instead of gdm ?
[11:47] <tsimpson> kushal_: make sure you have build-essential installed
[11:51] <Orion777> how to get rid of the alien symbol in upper right?
[11:52] <Tm_T> it's not alien symbol, its cachew
[11:52] <zhanes> what do you want orion?
[11:52] <alvin> Is it normal in KDE 4.3.4 to not see a graph for CPU History and Network History in the System Monitor?
[11:52] <Orion777> zhanes, to get rid of yellow symbol in upper right
[11:52] <alvin> Is someone, wants to confirm this, just start system monitor
[11:52] <ghostcube> Orion777: there is an plasma addon
[11:52] <alvin> (and go to the 'system load' tab)
[11:53] <ghostcube> Orion777: stealth cashew
[11:53] <zhanes> what is rid?
[11:53] <Orion777> type that in terminal?
[11:53] <Ranarama> He wants to know how to remove the yellow symbol
[11:54] <zhanes> oh ight
[11:54] <zhanes> noone knows
[11:54] <Tm_T> Orion777: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ#What_are_the_.22cashews.22.3F
[11:55] <zhanes> crashews are aliens?
[11:56] <zhanes> make snese, aliens crashes other planets
[11:57] <Orion777> but its only there since I said add panel
[11:57] <Orion777> it wasn't there before that
[11:57] <Ranarama> I think it's there by default actually
[11:58] <Ranarama> You only just noticed now probably
[11:58] <Orion777> k
[11:58] <Ranarama> It's not in the way or doesn't do any harm, so you should be ok :P
[11:58] <Orion777> is there a way to just show the icons on the taskbar without the text?
[11:59] <alvin> Can Phonon be restarted somehow? (Amarok crashed and took phonon with it when I pressed the 'Next' global shortcut)
[12:01] <dragonfist> what is the best audio mixer?
[12:04] <i_is_broke> !best
[12:05] <i_is_broke> it all depends on what you want to do with it, and your preferences.
[12:16] <zhanes> bye orion
[12:16] <zhanes> c u
[12:16] <Orion777> bye
[12:16] <Orion777> tu
[12:17] <Orion777> ty
[12:27] <Orion777> shadeslayer
[12:27] <Orion777> is there a way to make the taskbar be just icons instead of the text
[12:31] <shadeslayer> Orion777: yeah
[12:32] <shadeslayer> Orion777: you mean like win 7's taskbar right?
[12:32] <shadeslayer> Orion777: install : plasma-widget-fancytasks : and remove the taskbar widget from the taskbar and add the fancy-tasks widget instead
[12:39] <Orion777> shadeslayer, it works but now everything is to the left including the time etc
[12:46] <marek_> hello
[12:57] <||arifaX> I have a lot of ecryptfs messages in dmesg. How can I fix this?
[13:05] <ederico> hello, I'm having problems with Kontact, I'm trying to save a thing to do but I'm getting an error message saying that it is impossible, I have no idea what the problem could be, I hope someone can help as I use Kontact to sort my appointments and projects
[13:08] <ederico> actually, I can save nothing, not even events
[13:09] <Tm_T> ederico: what is the exact error message?
[13:09] <ederico> My Kontact is in Italian
[13:09] <ederico> it is saying that it is impossible to save
[13:10] <Tm_T> that's all?
[13:10] <ederico> yes
[13:10] <ederico> I wonder if it is a problem with disk space, but my HDD shouldn't be full as I cleared 1GB of data
[13:11] <Tm_T> ederico: doublecheck you really do have free space
[13:12] <ederico> Tm_T: How do I do that?
[13:13] <ederico> I should have 3.55GB of free space, I check through KDE Partition Manager
[13:15] <||arifaX> How can I unencrypt my home dir and no longer use ecryptfs?
[13:37] <Kretchfoop> anyone have any ideas why i've lost my taskbar on the desktop?
[13:38] <kindofabuzz> how can i turn off the tooltip popup on the kicker?
[13:40] <rav> hello. lately i've seen some problems with kwin, such as poor redrawing of window title bars, sometimes the kwin process begins consuming a lot of CPU, among other things. is this a bug?
[13:42] <Kretchfoop> sorry, did anyone have an answer?
[13:44] <shadeslayer> Kretchfoop: maybe because you deleted it
[13:44] <Kretchfoop> shadeslayer: not intentionally...
[13:44] <shadeslayer> rav: i dont think you can
[13:44] <shadeslayer> Kretchfoop: well just right click and click add panel > Panel
[13:45] <shadeslayer> Kretchfoop: then keep adding whatever widgets you want..
[13:45] <rav> shadeslayer: is it a bug?
[13:45] <Kretchfoop> maybe i didn't phrase my question clearly, i have no menu bars. All desktop.
[13:45] <shadeslayer> rav: why would it be?
[13:46] <shadeslayer> Kretchfoop: yeah,you mean you have the wallpaper,thats it right
[13:46] <kindofabuzz> how can i turn off the tooltip popup on the kicker?
[13:46] <rav> shadeslayer: because it didn't happen in jaunty. and the over-consumption of cpu is sporadic
[13:48] <shadeslayer> rav: oops i meant kindofabuzz
[13:48] <shadeslayer> kindofabuzz: see my message to rav
[13:48] <kindofabuzz> shadeslayer: yeah i just read that it's not possible
[13:48] <shadeslayer> kindofabuzz: :)
[13:49] <kindofabuzz> well that's kinda dumb
[13:49] <shadeslayer> why?
[13:49] <kindofabuzz> i just switched from Gnome to KDE for the first time and I can't do something simple like that? btw, KDE still rocks. it's bringing out the new geek in me =)
[13:50] <kindofabuzz> shadeslayer: why? because i should have the ability to toggle that feature
[13:50] <ct529> my Xorg memory occupation and plasma memory occupation are still "off the wall" .... ~470m xorg, ~100m plasma
[13:50] <ct529> anyone with the same problem?
[13:51] <shadeslayer> kindofabuzz: well it isnt a plugin that you can control so sorry...
[13:52] <kindofabuzz> shadeslayer: it just trips me out how there is a setting for everything in KDE except that
[13:52] <shadeslayer> kindofabuzz: maybe 4.4 will have something
[13:53] <Kretchfoop> shadeslayer: sorry, yeah, just wallpaper
[13:53] <shadeslayer> Kretchfoop: yeah so right click on the desktop and click add panel > panel
[13:53] <kindofabuzz> shadeslayer: someone already requested it =) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211593
[13:55] <Kretchfoop> cheers
[13:55] <shadeslayer> bleh... i wish launchapd would finish the 4.4 builds
[14:00] <shadeslayer> *launchpad
[14:43] <Omar87> How do I upgrade to KDE 4.4 beta?
[14:44] <andrewgodwin> Omar87: you wait until the packages finish building, I think
[14:44] <genii> Omar87: When it's finished being packaged, instructions will be in the channel /topic
[14:45] <Omar87> genii: so they haven't finish pakaging it yet?
[14:45] <Omar87> packaging*
[14:46] <stefan_> Omar87: no
[14:46] <Omar87> stefan_: I see.
[14:46] <Omar87> Thanks all.
[14:52] <islington_> whats is the ppa they are building in?
[14:52] <jayce> hey guys - how do I change the "K" icon on my quicklaunch? I thought you just had to right click - app launcher settings and within there it had an option. I swear I saw it before. But now I dont have it...?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[15:20] <Aruna> Hello all.
[15:31] <ct529> my Xorg memory occupation and plasma memory occupation are still "off the wall" .... ~470m xorg, ~100m plasma
[15:31] <ct529> is there a leak?
[15:33] <i_is_broke> what release are you running?
[15:33] <ct529> 910 64bit
[15:33] <rstob911> no that sounds about right for kde 4
[15:33] <ct529> rstob911: ????
[15:34] <i_is_broke> really
[15:34] <ct529> rstob911: 470m for Xorg????
[15:34] <i_is_broke> wow and i thought 256meg was a bunch. what desktop wm?
[15:34] <ct529> now 495M
[15:34] <rstob911> let me look and see what mine is running
[15:35] <ct529> i_is_broke: kwin (which take another ~80m)
[15:35] <i_is_broke> oh im running lxde so mine isnt as much as yours..
[15:37] <ct529> i_is_broke: we are talking RES column in top ....
[15:39] <i_is_broke> yeah im only using 319meg total.
[15:39] <i_is_broke> oops 349
[15:39] <i_is_broke> atleast thats what htop is telling me
[15:41] <ct529> i_is_broke: it seems a lot to me for lxde!!!!
[15:41] <i_is_broke> well i have a few programs running including amarok and kepote
[15:42] <i_is_broke> when using htop, does it include the memory used for onboard video?
[15:43] <ct529> i_is_broke: I do not think so but I am not sure
[15:43] <i_is_broke> but i have had it use more and have to reboot cause computer to sluggish to use..
[15:44] <Ian_N> does anyone have a minute to help me with a kdewallet issue?
[15:44] <ct529> i_is_broke: mmmm ....
[15:48] <Ian_N> I keep on getting an Error code -9: Readerror - possibly incorrect password., even though I know the password is correct
[15:49] <Ian_N> I can use the same password to open kdewallet for pidgin, and it works just fine
[15:58] <error> moin
[16:00] <BluesKaj> i_is_broke, install a widget called System Monitor, it shows all apps and what is using cpu and memory
[16:01] <i_is_broke> hey BluesKaj , ok wil do thanks. how ya been?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> good thanks , and you ?
[16:01] <i_is_broke> not bad...old and tired.
[16:05] <BluesKaj> but this nick is new , right ?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> or my old memory is failing me :(
[16:16] <shadowhywind> hay have the packages for kde 4.4 been released yet?
[16:16] <tsimpson> shadowhywind: not yet
[16:16] <shadowhywind> tsimpson: k, thanks
[16:17] <shadowhywind> any word about thunderbird 3?
[16:19] <tsimpson> I haven't heard any news on thunderbird
[16:21] <ct529> let's start again .... my Xorg memory occupation and plasma memory occupation are still "off the wall" .... ~470m xorg, ~100m plasma
[16:21] <ct529> 910 64 bit with NVIDIA QUADRO 1600M
[16:38] <mostafa_> can anyone help me how to back up my database?
[16:40] <ct529> mostafa_: what is the problem?
[16:40] <orion> help
[16:40] <mostafa_> ct529: I don't know how to back up my database :(
[16:41] <Guest45450> Air  final update (plasma theme)  Air final update (plasma theme)
[16:41] <Guest45450> kbubuntu 9.10
[16:41] <Guest45450> ?
[16:46] <ct529> mostafa_: well, it is not enough info .... what database, what version, blah,blah
[16:48] <mostafa_> ct529: I have visual studio 2008 and I write a c# program with a database
[16:48] <mostafa_> ct529: that uses sqlserver 2005
[16:48] <ct529> mostafa_: on kubuntu?????
[16:49] <mostafa_> ct529: yeah :D with virtual box
[16:49] <ct529> mostafa_: oh .... but then you need to backup the sqlserver .... I do not know anything about MS, sorry
[16:50] <mostafa_> ct529: no no don't make mistake
[16:51] <mostafa_> ct529: I just want to know how to back up, that's all
[16:51] <javier__> someone knows how to change 185 nvidia driver to 177 in karmic?
[16:51] <ct529> mostafa_: but to backup what? the sqlserver database?
[16:51] <mostafa_> yeah
[16:51] <mostafa_> ct529: yep bro
[16:51] <mostafa_> ct529: I just use this command "backup database master to disk = '" + _path + "'with init,stats = 10"
[16:52] <mostafa_> ct529: _path is the is the path the user choose to save there
[16:52] <ct529> mostafa_: that is a sqlserver command ....
[16:53] <i_is_broke> javier__, i think you have to purge the driver your using and reboot and load the other but i would check with someone that knows for sure....have you asked google?
[16:53] <mostafa_> ct529: "BACKUP DATABASE DBNAME TO DISK = ADDRESS WITH INIT, STATS = 10"
[16:53] <mostafa_> ct529: this is an sql command I think
[16:54] <ct529> mostafa_: I am not really sure about that .... never seen it before ....
[16:55] <ct529> mostafa_: but it may well be
[16:55] <mostafa_> ct529: then what is the right command to Back up?
[16:56] <ct529> mostafa_: I do not know sqlserver
[16:56] <i_is_broke> have  you tried aptoncd?
[16:57] <i_is_broke> its the only thing i know about actually that copies the cached apt installed programs.
[16:58] <i_is_broke> the only thing i know of it aptoncd
[16:58] <i_is_broke> but i dont think its what you are looking for.
[16:58] <javier__> i_is_broke: well, I don't find about it in google... how would I load the other after purgin my driver?
[16:59] <i_is_broke> javier__, im not sure, thats why i said you might want to ask someone else, you might try in regular ubuntu.
[16:59] <javier__> i_is_broke: mhm. Maybe, that's right
[17:00] <javier__> thanks!
[17:00] <i_is_broke> javier__, ive only had to load one video card..and it was a old nvidia that worked real easy
[17:02] <Ranarama> Which program is equivalent to notepad that's available in Kubuntu?
[17:08] <yofel> Ranarama: kwrite and kate
[17:12] <lordganesh> hi any body there
[17:15] <yofel> !anyone | lordganesh
[17:15] <lordganesh> how to recover grub
[17:16] <yofel> lordganesh: what does it say?
[17:17] <lordganesh> yofel: i install windows ... then windows bootloader comes... but i don't want to install kubuntu again ...can i recover grub anyhow
[17:18] <yofel> lordganesh: which kubuntu version?
[17:18] <lordganesh> 9.10
[17:19] <yofel> lordganesh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[17:21] <Logan_Lockwood> If someone is interested in Google Wave invitation, let me know (you'r gonna need a Google account)
[17:23] <m4b> hi all o/
[17:26] <lordganesh> yofel: there is line which says "Now you need to edit the /etc/default/grub file to fit your system" ,,what does it mean?
[17:32] <yofel> lordganesh: that files contains user changes to grub. If you never edited that file you can skip that step
[17:35] <lordganesh> yofel: i have run update grub 'it seems some error please check out-->  http://paste.ubuntu.com/338125/
[17:37] <lordganesh> yofel: just check if last lines starting from grep are not errors ..so that i proceed
[17:39] <yofel> should be ok, I don't think it needs the partition list at this point
[17:40] <rav> hello. i just enabled compiz and the window decorations changed, so did the panel color. how can i change that? Changing it in the appearance tab of System Settings does nothing.
[17:41] <yofel> rav: compiz needs compizconfig-settings-manager IIRC
[17:42] <rav> yofel: i installed it, but there i can only change animation settings, not looks
[17:43] <yofel> hm, no idea then since I don't use compiz myself
[17:44] <anoneemouse> hi, when i installed kubuntu it somehow set my windows partition as hidden, now xp doesnt want to boot
[17:44] <anoneemouse> i can see the hidden setting in kde partition manager ... but it wont change it, does someone know how to do this?
[17:45] <anoneemouse> wait... nvm it was mounted
[17:46] <rav> yofel: i switched because kwin is not working right since i upgraded to karmic
[17:49] <lordganesh> yofel: ya i have done it .thanks very much
[17:53] <alexander> any good suggestions for a dvd ripper on KDE 9.10?
[17:59] <ct529> lexander: k3b
[17:59] <ct529> let's start again .... my Xorg memory occupation and plasma memory occupation are still "off the wall" .... ~590m xorg now .... there must be a memory leak .... plasma is at >100mb
[18:48] <Logan_Lockwood> Does someone want a Google Wave Invitation?
[18:51] <gutts77> I would like some info for patching the wlan drivers for my EEE PC 1000HE
[18:52] <gutts77> do I even need to use packet injection
[18:58] <afi_> can someone help with sound &
[18:59] <afi_> ????
[19:08] <gutts77> can someone help with patching drivers  for an atheros chipset
[19:17] <jayce> hey guys, I updated KDE to 4.3.2 on jaunty and now add/remove says I have a broken package - how do I fix it?
[19:18] <zhanes> jayce, run aptitude
[19:18] <jayce> zhanes - just "aptitude" at terminal?
[19:18] <zhanes> yeah
[19:19] <jayce> I also just ran dpkg -configure -a before I asked in here, and I got Errors while processing - kstars kdeedu
[19:19] <jayce> think thats important? :(
[19:19] <zhanes> they will find a solution for your case, then if it solution is good for you, you can do authority to aptitude do the modifications
[19:20] <jayce> I ran aptitude, in red at the bottom it says suggest 1 install... what do I do?
[19:21] <zhanes> i suggest to you accept suggestion
[19:21] <jayce> I would, if I knew how
[19:21] <zhanes> aptitude is "magic"
[19:21] <jayce> I cant navigate to where apply is
[19:21] <jayce> unless Im just an idiot and didnt find out yet
[19:22] <simo_> hello
[19:22] <simo_> how to get the last version of firefox ?
[19:22] <zhanes> kubuntu karmic or www.mozilla.com
[19:23] <zhanes> do you run aptitude?
[19:23] <jayce> I ran aptitude in terminal
[19:23] <jayce> thats as far as I get
[19:24] <jayce> it says theres 1 broken package but like, I have no idea what to do. I dont know how to apply it.
[19:24] <simo_> to install it?
[19:24] <zhanes> what package have given trouble to you?
[19:24] <jayce> oh wiat, I didnt realize you could click around here
[19:24] <jayce> I dont know, it just simply says theres 1 suggested install
[19:24] <jayce> and theres 2 packages partially installed, which are
[19:25] <jayce> kstars kdeedu
[19:25] <zhanes> do you need kstars and kdeedu?
[19:25] <simo_> tar.bz2
[19:25] <jayce> I dont know what they are, lol
[19:25] <jayce> the only thing I did was installed kubuntu 9.04 and updated the PPA to KDE 4.3.2
[19:25] <zhanes> lol
[19:25] <jayce> whcih absolutely sucked, by the way
[19:26] <jayce> ran 3 guides and the first 2 failed, ran the 3rd and it worked
[19:26] <zhanes> well if you want to hold this package, do it
[19:26] <jayce> thank God for Clonezilla  - made an image of my partition before I destroyed it.
[19:26] <jayce> do what..?
[19:26] <zhanes> aptitude kstars kdeedu
[19:27] <jayce> apt-get install?
[19:27] <Mamarok> well, aptitude alone will not do much
[19:27] <Mamarok> jayce: sudo aptitude install kstarts kdeedu, thry that command
[19:27] <Mamarok> try*
[19:27] <Xand3r> hey folks i am using kubuntu 9.10 and an intel graficard, is ther e an easy way to dualview?
[19:27] <zhanes> no, just it --> "aptitude reinstall kstars kdeedu"
[19:27] <simo_> zhanes_ and the other firefox ?
[19:28] <jayce> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[19:28] <kubian> jayce: why 9.04 when 9.10 is out?
[19:28] <simo_> i have to remove it ?
[19:28] <Mamarok> Xand3r: I never used dualview, sorry
[19:28] <jayce> because 9.10 sucks
[19:28] <jayce> every time I install the broadcom STA driver on this laptop with karmic, it crashes
[19:28] <Xand3r> Mamarok: ok, but thanks
[19:28] <Mamarok> jayce: not true, it works very well
[19:28] <jayce> no problems in jaunty, crashes in karmic
[19:28] <kubian> jayce: ridiculous..9.10 is already at 4.3.4
[19:28] <Mamarok> jayce: what crashes? with what applications?
[19:28] <zhanes> no, just it --> "sudo aptitude reinstall kstars kdeedu"
[19:28] <jayce> mamarok - I have 4 systems, all 4 failed to handle karmic. 1 crashes by installing the broadcom driver, the other 3 are unusable because of the fact that I have multiple hard drives in those desktops and karmic doenst detect them right - a common problem with karmic.
[19:29] <jayce> kubian - no kidding, 4.3.2 is the highest I can get with jaunty, and since jaunty WORKS, Ill take it
[19:29] <jayce> mamarok - everything. When I activate the driver, the ENTIRE laptop locks up 100%. I cant do anything whatsoever.
[19:29] <Mamarok> jayce: I have two drives + 1 external HD, all UUID are set in the /etc/fstab file, works like a charm
[19:29] <jayce> I power off, boot up, log back in, driver is not activated and Im back tow orking. I activate - bam, crashes.
[19:29] <jimmy51_> i've got my mobile successfully paired with my kubuntu box (bluetooth).  i can send a file from the PC to the phone if i have the phone in discovery mode and set up an adhoc connection.  is there a uitlity that lets me send multiple files or that lets me take advantage of the paired connection?
[19:29] <jayce> mamarok - consider yourself lucky. Myself, along with a lot of other users, were not so lucky.
[19:29] <Mamarok> jayce: maybe the dirver you use is not adapted?
[19:30] <jayce> mamarok - no idea. Im using hte same driver in jaunty as I am karmic, yet karmic locks up.
[19:30] <jayce> I hate to cut this short but I have a meeting to go to guys
[19:30] <Mamarok> jayce: where does this driver come from?
[19:30] <jayce> take it easy an dthanks for the help thus far
[19:30] <jayce> mamarok - hardware drivers in the menu
[19:30] <jayce> gotta bounce
[19:30] <Mamarok> well, you should use the karmic driver then, using software compiled for a previous version is not a good idea
[19:31] <takis__> i create an account in Kmail, but i dont want to recieve all 2500 emails witch exists in my hotmail
[19:31] <takis__> how can i do that?
[19:34] <Mamarok> takis__: move the old ones to a subfolder first, them
[19:34] <Mamarok> then*
[19:34] <Mamarok> and don't subscribe to that folder, assuming you use IMAP
[19:35] <takis__> pfff
[19:38] <llhoir> hi
[19:38] <CupofDice> Anyone knows how to split a 2 page PDF into one?
[19:38] <takis__> Mamarok, it is too hard in hotmail
[19:38] <llhoir> mm its just to "k"ompare konversation to Quassel
[19:38] <takis__> to move 2500 messages in onether folder
[19:41] <Ranarama> Can't you just delete all of those messages or start another hotmailaccount?
[19:41] <takis__> i dont want to delete my existing account
[19:42] <takis__> and it is impossible to delete all messages
[19:42] <takis__> in hotmail
[19:42] <takis__> i need to select manually all of them
[19:43] <Ranarama> No, you can tic a box in hotmail so that all of your mails get selected, and then you just choose to remove them all
[19:45] <takis__> no i cant
[19:46] <takis__> i can delete only messages desplayed in current page
[19:46] <takis__> 40 messages at once
[19:47] <takis__> 2500/40
[19:47] <takis__> it really hard
[20:05] <p_masho> I updated to karmic, now where I log into kubuntu, I just get a back screen... it shows the fading disk > KDE splash, but when it starts kde proper, goes bkacl.. nothing.. so taskbar, not desktop..
[20:06] <ugur> hi all. I have a problem using kvpnc with PPTP protocol
[20:07] <p_masho> update >>  it shows the desktop/taskbar for a second, then goes black !
[20:07] <ugur> in my other kubuntu machine i changed one of the default settings to be able to connect but now i don't remember it and when i try all the settings i am still not able connect
[20:08] <kubian> Plasma keep segfaulting in lucid?  Any idea to fix it? got latest libplasma3 ver 4.3.80-ubuntu6
[20:12] <p_masho> anyone ?
[20:14] <m_tadeu> hi all....mencoder and vlc are getting my webcam image upside down...how can I solve this?
[20:29] <genii> m_tadeu: VLC has an option to rotate 90,180 degrees, under Tools...Extended Settings...Video Effects top tab...Basic bottom tab. Click off Transform checkbox and choose 180 degree rotation
[20:38] <m_tadeu> genii: well but that's not changing the video at all, is it?
[20:38] <m_tadeu> it's just a viewing option
[20:39] <genii> m_tadeu: If you're saving it to a file, or streaming it out somewhere, the adjustments are made there as well
[20:39] <m_tadeu> ahh I see
[20:40] <m_tadeu> thanx :)
[20:41] <genii> m_tadeu: Yer welcome
[20:43] <drykill> is there any way to send net messages through kubuntu?
[20:43] <drykill> ive tried talk and it wont connect
[20:44] <genii> drykill: You mean a LAN messaging system like Winpopup?
[20:45] <drykill> yeah
[20:45] <drykill> ive tried smbclient as well
[20:45] <drykill> smbclient -M <host> [mesg]
[20:45] <genii> drykill: There is linpopup, works over samba
[20:46] <drykill> does the other computer have to have linpopup as well
[20:46] <genii> drykill: Yes
[20:47] <holli> hi. is there a way to create an application launcher (k-menu) that starts everything as root? I'm fed up with gksu
[20:47] <genii> drykill: Winpopup->Linpopup works also
[20:47] <drykill> the other box is a windows box
[20:47] <drykill> nvmd winpopup for windows
[20:48] <genii> holli: Kubuntu apps use kdesuo
[20:49] <holli> genii: thanks, but than i still need to know the apps command line name.
[20:49] <__Adam__> hello, how can i go from 8.10 to 9.10? thanks
[20:50] <holli> __Adam__: add 1
[20:50] <genii> !upgrade > __Adam__
[20:50] <drykill> lol
[20:50] <__Adam__> :)
[20:52] <__Adam__> thanks genii
[20:52] <__Adam__> so apt-get install adept-manager 2.1.3ubuntu25.2 first?
[20:53] <Galvatron> Hi
[20:54] <__Adam__> "Version Upgrade button will appear, click it"  it dosnt :(
[20:54] <Galvatron> Can I somehow make the system close after pressing power button, without the dialog (logout/trn off/restart). Just like in Windows.
[20:55] <Galvatron> ?
[20:56] <Galvatron> Trying to upgrade Jaunty to Karmic?
[20:57] <Galvatron> Try manually vhanging "Jaunty" to "Karmic" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:57] <cuznt> im trying to recover my windows partition
[20:58] <Galvatron> What happened?
[20:58] <__Adam__> i dont wanna, i just wish dist-upgrade would work
[20:59] <cuznt> i messed up the partition when i split my sata 320
[20:59] <cuznt> sda1 is there
[20:59] <Galvatron> "Dist-upgrade" will just upgrade jur desktop enviroment, if a newer one is in repo (full-upgrade will do the same)
[20:59] <cuznt> but shes a not work
[21:00] <BluesKaj> cuznt, upgrading from ?
[21:01] <BluesKaj> oops sorry wrong guy
[21:01] <__Adam__> great my source list is 404 not found now
[21:02] <__Adam__> quickly going off kubuntu
[21:02] <Galvatron> 404? o_O
[21:02] <BluesKaj> __Adam__,  sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:02] <cuznt> nope not upgrading
[21:03] <cuznt> i had windoz 64 and partitioned the 320.
[21:03] <__Adam__> now all my sources are screwed!!
[21:03] <__Adam__> not happy
[21:04] <Galvatron> Un-screw it with sudo aptitude update
[21:04] <cuznt> kubuntu installation would NOT let me partition the sata 320 so i did it with knoppix and gparted BUT it is there, it just wont boot. it is looking i think for 320 g worth of ntsc that aint there anymore
[21:04] <mtltemplar> hey how do i install xlibs on kubuntu? there is no aptitude result for xlibs
[21:04] <cuznt> bbias
[21:05] <eclix> oi
[21:05]  * cuznt must add flambe to make the grill work.
[21:05] <__Adam__> sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:05] <__Adam__> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[21:06] <__Adam__> No new release found
[21:06] <__Adam__> i guess there is nothing after 8.10 then
[21:07] <BluesKaj> 8.10 ? ok, __Adam__ you need to do: sudp apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:08] <__Adam__> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:08] <__Adam__> Reading package lists... Done
[21:08] <__Adam__> Building dependency tree
[21:08] <__Adam__> Reading state information... Done
[21:08] <__Adam__> Calculating upgrade... Done
[21:08] <FloodBotK3> __Adam__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <__Adam__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:08] <__Adam__> [21:08] <__Adam__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:10] <BluesKaj> __Adam__, lsb_release -a
[21:10] <__Adam__> Release:        8.10
[21:10] <__Adam__> Codename:       intrepid
[21:11] <BluesKaj> __Adam__, pastebin your sources.list
[21:12] <__Adam__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/338300/
[21:14] <BluesKaj> __Adam__,
[21:14] <BluesKaj> See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to newer versions of the distribution.
[21:15] <__Adam__> yes update-notifier-kde -u dosnt work either
[21:15] <__Adam__> as in stated in the upgrade notes
[21:16] <__Adam__> well thanks for your help
[21:16] <mtltemplar> so why are there no xlibs in the kubuntu tree?
[21:16] <__Adam__> time to spread the word that once again, linux fails to be easy
[21:16] <__Adam__> and ppl think linux can get a market share on the desktops
[21:17] <BluesKaj> __Adam__, you can always change the debs in the sources.list to the next release jaunty and do the dist-upgrade
[21:18] <BluesKaj> that's really odd that you're having so much trouble tho , __Adam__
[21:18] <__Adam__> is it?
[21:19] <__Adam__> there must be 4 diffient commands, and none of them say there is an upgrade
[21:19] <BluesKaj> unless you have your sources locked in your package maintainer
[21:19] <zhanes> BluesKaj every time that upgrade kubuntu is necessary to do dist-upgrade?
[21:20] <BluesKaj> zhanes, from jaunty you can upgrade using sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:21] <noobC> How can I set dolphin to maintain a consistent view, details+"zoom" level
[21:21] <zhanes> and it will upgrade all database, including version of distro?
[21:21] <BluesKaj> zhanes, if you are on jaunty , yes
[21:22] <JontheEchidna> noobC: in the "General" pane of Dolphin's config, there should be a checkbox to "use common view properties for all folders"
[21:22] <JontheEchidna> I think this is what you are after
[21:22] <BluesKaj> zhanes, the command doesn't seem to work for older distros
[21:22] <mtltemplar> id like to comment on the two comments you made adam about time to spread the word linux fails and the whole market share comment...
[21:22] <mtltemplar> i would say, and therein lies the problem: the linux population is diluted with ppl who should be using micro$haft. if you cant hack it in the open source world, retreat to the relative comfort of micro$haft. we don't want you... :)
[21:22] <zhanes> cause my version is a upgrade by packages and when i go to synaptic, synaptic says that can find the distro version
[21:22] <mtltemplar> and i will follow that with an LOL :)
[21:22] <mtltemplar> all in good faith
[21:23] <zhanes> do you understood my problem, BluesKaj?
[21:23] <BluesKaj> mtltemplar, that kind of talk isn't necessary here
[21:23] <dloring> mlttemplar, perhaps you can help a willing haker with a case of spontaneous breakage? :)
[21:23] <noobC> Yep, thanks
[21:24] <BluesKaj> zhanes, you haven't expressed any problem , you only asked about upgrading
[21:24] <__Adam__> mtltemplar: so i should also replace my 4 debian servers at work with windows?
[21:24] <__Adam__> :)
[21:24] <zhanes> cause my version is a upgrade by packages and when i go to synaptic, synaptic says that can find the distro version
[21:24] <zhanes> BluesKaj my version is a upgrade by packages and when i go to synaptic, synaptic says that can find the distro version
[21:24] <mtltemplar> blueskaj, im sorry to have to say all that but i see that kind of talk way too often on these channels and im like do you really want to get help here or not? its just super frustrating to me. i hang in the gentoo irc all the time and im like, if you dont like it dont use it. just dont blast it. sorry if it offended
[21:25] <BluesKaj> mtltemplar, well we encourage ppl to keep trying linux , even tho the frustration level is bit higher , the rewards overcome that
[21:26] <__Adam__> to be fair, its why apple wants so much control over what you can and cant do
[21:26] <dloring> I second that.
[21:26] <dloring> I couldn't have the working environment I have developed in any other OS.
[21:27] <BluesKaj> zhanes, just because you used synaptic to upgrade doesn't mean you have to keep using it to upgrade , you can do so in the commandline as well and it's simpler and faster
[21:28] <dloring> But does anyone know why Plasma decided a couple reboots ago to eat my configuration and set all panels to Always Visible and Left-positioned?
[21:28] <__Adam__> i lost my comic panel :(
[21:28] <zhanes> Can I solve this dsitro problem?
[21:28] <BluesKaj> dloring, did you upgrade kde ?
[21:29] <Orion777> are the apps that come with kubuntu sufficient or should I install vlc, audacious, bittorrent etc?
[21:29] <dloring> the upgrades that came down a few days ago? yeah. Did that screw things up?
[21:29] <zhanes> hi Orion777, are you fine?
[21:29] <BluesKaj> zhanes, what distro version ?
[21:29] <mtltemplar> i wasnt necessarily intending to blast you adam its just frustrating to see that so many times from ppl that just dont know what you are talking about (tho obviously that isnt you). i am just so tired of ppl 'trying' linux and not really 'trying with intent to make it work' and then blasting it, that im just suggesting ppl go back to windows then... :) lol
[21:29] <mtltemplar> but nuf said on that
[21:30] <zhanes> vlc is good to listen and see internet streams, audacious is good for edit wave files
[21:30] <Orion777> is ktorrent good?
[21:30] <BluesKaj> Orion777, yes
[21:30] <dloring> Orion777: VLC is always good to have up your sleeve, and I assign mp3 playing to it so that playing standlone mp3's doesn't mess with Amarok.
[21:31] <zhanes> ktorrent is very ood for me
[21:31] <Orion777> I didn't see vlc in kpackage
[21:31] <zhanes> ktorrent is very good for me
[21:31] <BluesKaj> !version | zhanes
[21:31] <nicklas_> ktorrent is the best
[21:31] <zhanes> ktorrent is better than windows torrents programs
[21:31] <dloring> Ktorrent is impressive, and the plugins make it as good as anything I have used.
[21:31] <BluesKaj> ktorrent is much like utorrent
[21:32] <Orion777> cool, I usually use utorrent
[21:32] <dloring> Could use magnet link support, but that's a tiny problem.
[21:32] <Orion777> s'ok I dont use magnet links
[21:32] <zhanes> BluesKaj --> !version: event not found
[21:32] <BluesKaj> Orion777, some ppl even run utorrent in wine on kubuntu
[21:33] <BluesKaj> zhanes, open  the konsole , lsb_release -a
[21:33] <zhanes> sudo apt-get install vlc-nox
[21:33] <nicklas_> i wonder how kde 4.4 will look and work with kubuntu
[21:33] <Orion777> anyone tried fancy tasks widget? its awesome, it removes the text from the taskbar and makes programs just appear as icons like in mac osx or win dockers
[21:33] <Orion777> each open program only takes up the size of the icon
[21:34] <dloring> I have never had any luck installing any widgets.
[21:34] <zhanes> BluesKaj --> No LSB modules are available.
[21:34] <nicklas_> Orion777: what you mean, there are a widget you can have instead of the taskbar?
[21:34] <Orion777> sudo apt-get install vlc-nox will install vlc?
[21:35] <BluesKaj> zhanes, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:36] <Orion777> nicklas'-no, it replaces the part that shows what programs are open which are usually long and have text with them..you know Firefox-The worlds best browser or whatever...this widget rmoves all the texdt on the taskbar and just leaves the open programs icons
[21:37] <zhanes> Orion "sudo apt-get install vlc" only
[21:37] <Orion777> shrinks all the app bars to the size of an icon
[21:37] <zhanes> maybe you will need mediubuntu in you repositories
[21:38] <zhanes> BluesKaj, untill No LSB modules are available.
[21:39] <Orion777> zhanes, sudo apt-get mediubuntu ?
[21:39] <Orion777> I mean with install in there
[21:39] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[21:39] <zhanes> no, mediubuntu is a repository, seach in google, then edit you sources.list
[21:40] <BluesKaj> zhanes, close synaptic
[21:40] <zhanes> thx BluesKaj for Orion
[21:40] <zhanes> synaptic was closed
[21:41] <BluesKaj> zhanes, cat /etc/issue
[21:42] <zhanes> as root?
[21:42] <BluesKaj> nope
[21:42] <Orion777> medibuntu works with kubun?
[21:43] <roldyx> yeap
[21:43] <roldyx> funciona
[21:44] <BluesKaj> Orion777, medibuntu is a repository where apt-get finds stored applications that you can install, mostly media stuff
[21:46] <zhanes> BluesKaj Ubuntu 8.10 \n \l
[21:46] <antonio_> italian?
[21:47] <dloring> BluesKaj: did something happen with the recent upgrade that broke configuration?
[21:47] <zhanes> roldyx funfa
[21:48] <zhanes> Orion777 "...cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons."
[21:49] <Orion777> I just see a list of terminal commands to add the repository, how do I find the source to add it to source list
[21:49] <Orion777> sudo wget \
[21:49] <Orion777>   --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list \
[21:49] <Orion777> " are really \ ...do those mean they are separate commands
[21:49] <Orion777> hmph
[21:49] <FloodBotK3> Orion777: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <BluesKaj> dloring, not sure , eveyone has differnt setups , some have probs some don't
[21:50] <Orion777> so mediubuntu lets me play special file types?
[21:50] <Orion777> its like codecs or permissions?
[21:50] <BluesKaj> zhanes, try this: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[21:50] <zhanes> alright
[21:52] <BluesKaj> Orion777, alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list . Copy and paste the medibuntu repos into the text , then save it and do sudo apt-get update in the terminal/konsole
[21:53] <BluesKaj> yes medibuntu has all kinds of media software available , check the site
[21:53] <BluesKaj> Orion777, read my post above
[21:54] <zhanes> BluesKaj is upgranding signature to lucid.tar.gz
[21:54] <jcook_> ? for anyone. how would just install sun-java6-plugin with out firefox?
[21:55] <jcook_> I use chromium why do I need firefox
[21:55] <zhanes> they disabled my entries of third party sources list
[21:56] <BluesKaj> zhanes, you can stop by quitting the terminal
[21:56] <benjamin> @jcook Chrome is now officially released by google for Linux http://google.com/chrome x86 and x64 .deb and .rpm available.
[21:57] <BluesKaj> zhanes, you can just say no once it fifnishes calculating
[21:57] <Orion777> well, I installed it, so now it will play more video types?
[21:57] <zhanes> they disabled my entries of third party in sources list, that bad
[21:57] <zhanes> i cant stop
[21:57] <zhanes> ]i tried
[21:57] <BluesKaj> it will give you a choice to stop
[21:58] <zhanes> too later
[21:58] <BluesKaj> Fetching and installing the upgrade can take several hours. Once the download has finished, the process cannot be cancelled.
[21:59] <jcook_> I know thanks. Still have the problem with java-plugin tho it "" depends on firefox
[21:59] <BluesKaj> zhanes, did you say yes ?
[21:59] <zhanes> there not appeared any option
[21:59] <zhanes> automatic instalation
[21:59] <dloring> jcook_, to answer your problem, it depends on *a* browser, so if you were able to override that dependency, it is unlikely to break. But you'd have to look up how to do that.
[21:59] <zhanes> :-(
[21:59] <BluesKaj> Continue [yN]  Details [d]Y
[22:00] <Orion777> is there a way to skin backgrounds to replace the plain white
[22:00] <Orion777> or skin in general
[22:00] <zhanes> there no appeared this options
[22:00] <benjamin> I just kep FF installed. good to have a backup browser anyway.
[22:00] <noobC> Is there some way to figure out what actions may be triggered by laptop lid switch?
[22:00] <noobC> I'd rather not find it causing no standby on me
[22:00] <jcook_> thanks that what i thought. scared it would break my apt-get dbase
[22:00] <noobC> err, have not find
[22:01] <zhanes> well, no more to do =P
[22:01] <zhanes> they are calculating the changes
[22:02] <zhanes> BluesKar, they are abortinng, and remaking the original system
[22:02] <zhanes> BluesKar, they are abortinng, and restoring the original system
[22:03] <dloring> BluesKaj: in regards to plasma configuration, would deleting or zeroing some configuration files reset things or put me in a whole new world of hurt?
[22:03] <zhanes> I used Ctrl+C
[22:03] <zhanes> =D
[22:04] <zhanes> Orion777 VLC have a lot of beautifull sknis
[22:05] <Orion777> anyone know where theme files go? when I add startup splash screen themes they don't add to the list
[22:05] <zhanes> see in the developer page www.videolan.org/vlc
[22:07] <BluesKaj> dloring, have you tried to add any plasma widgets ?
[22:08] <zhanes> Orion777 Do you solved you problem with kdesudo nvidia-settings -l?
[22:09] <dloring> BluesKaj: I had a four-desktop four-activity setup before the update. It got borked in a variety of ways. I have tried to recreate it, but there are problems with the dashboard; sometimes it shows up without any widgets when there are widgets on the desktop, and sometimes it doesn't show up at all.
[22:10] <BluesKaj> dloring, which kubuntu version?
[22:10] <dloring> 9.10, with kde 4.3.current. Sorry, should have said that earlier.
[22:11] <Orion777> zhanes, yes ty
[22:12] <zhanes> =) good
[22:13] <zhanes> here puting a .desktop archive in AaaautoStart worked fine without stupid warnings
[22:20] <Orion777> is there a skinnable irc client?
[22:21] <BluesKaj> dloring, I'm not sure how to help since I'm the only user on this pc anf use only one desktop configuration
[22:22] <Bugsbane> Anyone know if QT 4.6 has been pulled into the 10.04 alpha yet?
[22:22] <usuariom> hola
[22:23] <dloring> Yeah, I guess I get to go where no man has gone before, in th the depths of Plasma!
[22:23] <usuariom> hi, are you spiking espanish
[22:24] <zhanes> que passa?
[22:25] <cuznt> !es
[22:25] <Orion777> anyone know how to change startup splash screen?
[22:26] <zhanes> boot splash screen, Orion777?
[22:26] <cuznt> settings>system settings> advanced > login manager
[22:28] <Orion777> yes
[22:28] <Orion777> well, no startup, where the little icons appear
[22:29] <zhanes> The KDE Splash?
[22:29] <Orion777> yeah
[22:29] <cuznt> settings>system settings> advanced > login manager
[22:29] <Orion777> I installed new ones in system settings but they don't show up on the list
[22:29] <cuznt> you may hAVE TO install them
[22:30] <zhanes> system setting>General>Appearence>Splash Screen Management
[22:30] <cuznt> settings>system settings> advanced > login manager > theme > install new theme
[22:31] <zhanes> cuznt he wants the kde splash
[22:31] <cuznt> i got it
[22:31] <cuznt> ty
[22:31] <zhanes> system setting>General>Appearence>Splash Screen
[22:31] <jayce> WHATS UP
[22:31] <cuznt> if the new ones dont show up
[22:31] <cuznt> it could be they are broken | wrong resoluton
[22:31] <Orion777> yes, I went into splash screen, and said get new themes but when I install them from the picture list they don't show up on the themes list
[22:31] <Orion777> oh
[22:32] <zhanes> try get new themes
[22:32] <cuznt> not all work for me either
[22:33] <cuznt> did u restart after?
[22:33] <zhanes> then source KDE-Looks.org
[22:33]  * cuznt is going to, to see if it helps
[22:33] <jayce> guys - I got a broken package on my system after updating KDE 4.2.2 to KDE 4.3.2 on jaunty
[22:35] <usuariom> hay alguien que hable español
[22:36] <cuznt> no dice. splash screens i chose not installed
[22:39] <zhanes> Hey amico, Yo fecho español
[22:41] <drykill_> I accidently removed my k panel at the bottom of my desktop and can't figure out how to get it back any help?
[22:43] <drykill_> any one?
[22:43] <zhanes> dry, unlock widgets
[22:43] <Bugsbane> Right click on desktop -> Add panel
[22:43] <zhanes> .
[22:44] <zhanes> then add widgets
[22:44] <Orion777> zhanes, is there a way to change bootup splash or disable it?
[22:44] <zhanes> then add task manager
[22:44] <drykill_> ok its the activity bar
[22:44] <drykill_> thanks
[22:45] <zhanes> there a way yes
[22:45] <zhanes> have some themes in repository, but not all is running
[22:45] <zhanes> you can download bootsplash at kde-looks.org
[22:45] <Orion777> and how to install it?
[22:47] <zhanes> sudo apt-get usplash kubuntu-usplash mythbuntu-usplash and anothers, see in adept
[22:48] <Orion777> hmm,I have not used adept, what is it
[22:48] <zhanes> to change usplash themes change the link in /etc/usplash-artwork.so to your preferedtheme.so
[22:49] <zhanes> adept is a package management program
[22:49] <Orion777> you're saying if I want usplash(a theme?) I say sudo apt-get usplash?
[22:49] <zhanes> you can use synptic so, both are graphical package managers
[22:49] <jayce> guys - I got a broken package on my system after updating KDE 4.2.2 to KDE 4.3.2 on jaunty
[22:49] <Orion777> I should stop using kpackage kit?
[22:50] <zhanes> yeah sudo apt-get install usplash then usplash-themes
[22:51] <zhanes> have usplash-mythbuntu usplash-ubuntu usplash-kubuntu usplash-debian and anothers
[22:51] <zhanes> and in kde-looks.org have a lot of personalized usplash themes for bootsplash
[22:52] <Orion777> ok I just put in "sudo get-apt install usplash" that is correct?
[22:52] <zhanes> you can use kpackagekit with adept and synaptic, all are goods
[22:52] <zhanes> choose your prefered package manager
[22:52] <zhanes> yeah
[22:53] <zhanes> you can put sudo apt-get install usplash-mythbuntu usplash-ubuntu usplash-kubuntu usplash-debian and anothers
[22:53] <Orion777> now I use "sudo apt-get install (theme name)" or download new theme and change link
[22:53] <zhanes> you can do both
[22:54] <zhanes> if themes in repositories you dislike them
[22:54] <zhanes> download from kde-looks.org your prefered
[22:54] <Orion777> but either method I have to change the link right
[22:54] <Orion777> where do these themes go? I mean what folder
[22:55] <zhanes> i dont know, i sue changing the link
[22:55] <zhanes> i dont know, i use changing the link
[22:56] <Orion777> it is a link to a file in one of my folders though right?
[22:56] <zhanes> kde-look.org splashes here http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=61x66x67x68x79&PHPSESSID=42e1d93658e45c2c09ab4a947a61f931
[22:57] <jayce> aaaaaaanybody know?
[22:58] <zhanes> a good bootsplash to karmic http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Air+Splashy?content=109127
[23:00] <zhanes> the command to change link is "sudo cp -ln /your/folder/splash/your-splash.so /etc/usplash-artwork.so"
[23:01] <Orion777> zhanes, there is no usplash artwork file
[23:01] <zhanes> where?
[23:01] <Orion777> in etc
[23:02] <zhanes> wait
[23:03] <Orion777> also, airsplashy bootscreen is not a usplash boot screen, usplash will do all of them?
[23:04] <BluesKaj> jayce, sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[23:07] <zhanes> Orion 777
[23:07] <zhanes> the command to change link is "sudo cp -ln /your/folder/splash/your-splash.so /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so"
[23:09] <zhanes> Orion777 will be need to update kernel
[23:09] <Orion777> I can't find a splash folder
[23:09] <zhanes> BluesKaj, do you know the command to update kernel?
[23:10] <zhanes> you can put usplash.so in any folder
[23:10] <BluesKaj> !kernel
[23:11] <zhanes> but corret folder is /usr/lib/usplash/
[23:11] <jaldhar> I presume it is known that the 4.3.4 packages for karmic are screwed up?  Any workarounds?
[23:11] <zhanes> !dpkg
[23:12] <BluesKaj> !linux-image | zhanes
[23:13] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[23:13] <zhanes> the command to update kernle is sudo update-initramfs -u
[23:14] <jaldhar> kde-window-manager segfaults every time you alt-tab, plasma doesn't start and that means you can't get to the network-manager applet
[23:14] <zhanes> the complete informations to update kernel is http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3096576.0
[23:15] <zhanes> there are all alternatives to manage usplash boot screen http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3096576.0
[23:19] <zhanes> Orion777: Do you can do it?
[23:23] <zhanes> the command to change link is "sudo cp -ln /usr/lib/usplash/your-splash.so /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so"
[23:23] <zhanes> the command to update kernle is sudo update-initramfs -u
[23:25] <Orion777> I just don't understand how to
[23:25] <Orion777> I used "sudo apt-get install usplash" I don't understand the rest
[23:25] <Orion777> the usplash artwork file isn't even a file, its a shortcut
[23:25] <Orion777> its really usplash-theme-kubuntu.so
[23:28] <zhanes> do you have installed other themes?
[23:28] <zhanes> you can download themes and put in /usr/lib/usplash/ folder
[23:29] <zhanes> then you can link the library by using that command that i printed here
[23:29] <Orion777> so lets say a theme is called xytheme...I don't need to download it, I just type sudo apt-get install xytheme?
[23:29] <Orion777> or I download it, but where do I put the file?
[23:29] <Orion777> oh I put my new theme file in usr/lib/usplash?
[23:29] <Orion777> download it there I mean
[23:29] <zhanes> lets do a change together, do you agree?
[23:29] <zhanes> step, by step
[23:29] <zhanes> ;-)
[23:30] <zhanes> first download this theme here http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Air+Splashy?content=109127
[23:31] <Orion777> k, can I only choose usplash theme for usplash?
[23:32] <zhanes> first download this theme here http://www.nanolx.org/free/Artwork/Air.tar.bz2
[23:33] <zhanes> you can change the theme after, let's do it one time together, ok?
[23:37] <Orion111> zhanes, net crash :P
[23:44] <zhanes> Orion777 lets chance to this, this is a usplash prepared for ubuntu http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=79841&id=1&tan=20323294
[23:45] <zhanes> Orion777 lets change to this, this is a usplash prepared for ubuntu download this http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=79841&id=1&tan=20323294
[23:48] <nicklas_> yo
[23:51] <Orion111> "access denied"
[23:51] <Orion111> I mean I tried to download it to usr/lib/usplash "access is denied"
[23:52] <zhanes> no, just downlod it to you desktop folder
[23:53] <zhanes> After downloaded you will extract the archive with karchiver
[23:53] <Orion111> k brb
[23:55] <zhanes> extract the archive.so in Desktop folder too
[23:57] <nicklas_> kubuntu needs to get more popular
[23:57] <zhanes> hi again
[23:57] <zhanes> Orion777 lets change to this, this is a usplash prepared for ubuntu download this http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=79841&id=1&tan=20323294
[23:57] <zhanes> downlod it to you desktop folder
[23:58] <zhanes> After downloaded you will extract the archive with karchiver to Desktop too
[23:58] <Orion777> zhanes, k what I did that worked is 1. get theme into usplash folder and 2.sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[23:58] <zhanes> patience, we will can, trust in me
[23:59] <zhanes> Orion777 1º lets change to this, this is a usplash prepared for ubuntu download this http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=79841&id=1&tan=20323294
[23:59] <zhanes> 2º downlod it to you desktop folder
[23:59] <zhanes> 3º After downloaded you will extract the archive with karchiver to Desktop too