[00:00] http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=4p1x9sxejg1phrwys9f6.png === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [00:41] hi, virtuoso-opensource 6.0.0 will be upload to kubuntu karmic ppa?? [00:42] it will be made available along with the KDE 4.4 packages [00:43] thanks JontheEchidna, i ll wait [00:45] nothing! [00:46] why is it people in the computer industry seem to be so unmotivated? [01:12] where can I find a good xorg.conf for the vesa driver? [01:15] how about an entry for grub that boots into a console? [01:16] even the new flash 10 64 bit version makes Firefox crash on gmail. anoyone found a fix for it or does it works for others? [01:17] cant you just use 32bit flash? === test is now known as Guest28656 [01:20] r00t_ninja: yes it's better than nothing but it still sucks [01:20] 32bit flash on 64bit only has a slight performance drop [01:21] with 32 bit I often have to minimise FF and restore it to be able to interact with flash videos [01:22] were you installing it with the flashplugin installer from the repos? [01:23] yes [01:46] is anybody here familiar with the multimon program for decoding radio transmissions === not-xjjk is now known as xjjk [01:56] is Qt 4.6 final available in a PPA anywhere for Karmic? [01:56] rc1 is still in the kubuntu-experimental PPA [02:09] tEsT [02:09] test [02:13] * genii sips [02:17] whats a good kde app for using my webcam? [02:18] !info kamoso [02:18] kamoso (source: kamoso): Tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.4-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 219 kB, installed size 852 kB [02:18] you might want to try that^ [02:18] I've not since I don't have a webcam [02:19] yeah [02:19] i just installed kamoso but it crashes every time i try to launch it [02:19] scubanator87: VLC works nicely for me [02:19] genii: for just taking snap shots and stuff? [02:19] I am looking for something like cheese for photobooth [02:20] but for KDE [02:20] scubanator87: You can record footage, take snaps, or stream it someplace [02:28] Hola! [02:29] !ar | gon_ [02:29] gon_: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe [02:33] genii: i found webKam from kdeapps http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/WebKam?content=76902 [02:37] hola [02:38] oh he left [02:38] webkam? [02:38] lol [02:38] LAWL!! === faydriss is now known as cuznt === cuznt is now known as faydriss === faydriss is now known as combykitten === imperindo_ is now known as ade` === ade` is now known as aDe` [03:04] hOaEeeEEEEEEEEEEEemmmmmMmMm [03:06] !id | aDe` [03:06] aDe`: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia [03:08] sWEPiNaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [03:08] G bEda jaUh aMbi KUbUraN kiY [03:09] aDe`: English here please [03:12] luux: whats wrong with that? [03:15] HoeeeEeEEeeeeeeEeeeeEEeeEEey :'( [03:22] kkkkkk [03:22] BRASIL [03:24] rOom aNeh.cOm [03:24] !br | leugim [03:24] leugim: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [03:25] aDe`: Bahasa Inggris di sini hanya [03:26] hO Oh iTreNg iTreNg [03:26] ok === lam is now known as The_Journey [03:31] anyone around? [03:33] Barely :) [03:33] when I add something to autostart it always asks for admin password, how do I make it remember the pw? [03:33] or automatically put it in for me [03:34] at startup [03:35] Orion777: Is it a graphical app or a command-line one? [03:35] graphical [03:36] Orion777: So you're running it with something like: kdesudo appname I imagine [03:39] well, I can do that, I really just added it to autostart [03:39] so I put a file in autostart folder that says kdesudo appname then what [03:40] Orion111: Are you using kde or using gnome? Since you are crossposting in both channels [03:40] sorry genii did you respond? [03:40] Orion777: Are you using kde or using gnome? Since you are crossposting in both channels [03:40] kde [03:41] isn't the method the same in either version [03:41] Orion777: Then yes, use the kdesudo appname way. Then you need to edit the sudoers file to allow your username to run sudo apps without requiring a password [03:41] Orion777: No, the method is *not* the same [03:42] how do I edit sudoers file? [03:43] Orion777: kdesudo kate /etc/sudoers then add a line like: username ALL= NOPASSWD: /full-path/and-filename/here/to/that-app [03:44] Orion777: what is running on login [03:45] Orion777: The sudoers edit works for both kde and gnome apps which require superuser access/pass. kde uses kdesudo , gnome uses gksudo [03:49] it says I don't have permission to modify that file [03:49] sudoers [03:52] Orion777: What are you trying to run as root on startup? [03:52] yes, that's how it comes up in autostart(system settings [03:52] sudo-to-root [03:52] ? [03:54] rootnina, its in the command section [03:54] Orion777: I said earlier: " Orion777: kdesudo kate /etc/sudoers ..." <- note the "kdesudo" at front [03:54] put that in my autostart file? [03:54] Orion777: No. [03:54] .kde/autostart [03:54] oh in the autostart entry [03:54] Orion777: No [03:55] sigh, I did what you said in sudoers and it said I don't have permission to change the file [03:55] Orion777: what program are you running on startup that requires root permissions? [03:55] Orion777: You put in your autostart something like: kdesudo application-name You then edit the /etc/sudoers file by issuing into Konsole: kdesudo kate /etc/sudoers [03:56] ok, where in the sudoers file do I put the line [03:57] rootninja, firestarter [03:57] Orion777: At which point you put into the sudoers file: your-username-here ALL=NOPASSWD:/the-path-to-application-you-want-to-run-with-kdesudo/application-name-here [03:57] it can go anywhere in the file? [03:58] Orion777: You put the line i described anywhere in the sudoers file, yes. SUBSTITUTE ACCORDINGLY the appname,path,username [03:59] k [04:00] there is a line in there that says %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL but its commented, that will deactivate pw for all apps? [04:00] Orion777: are you trying to achieve not having to type your password in? [04:00] Orion777: For all users and all apps. It's an extremely horrible thing to uncomment [04:00] atall [04:01] k, I put in the line you suggested, thank you [04:02] transforming linux in windows [04:03] hi all [04:04] r00t_ninja, do you think that update system archives from ppa is a bad idea? [04:05] hi - just installed karmic kubuntu and would like to fix amarok so that it does not ask for the keyring password all the time - any tips? [04:05] sure [04:06] where you found your ppa? [04:08] frybye, i dont understood you correctly, but if your system dont ask password is because you have [04:09] Frybye: You could remove the password from kwallet , I can guide you through that if you want [04:10] genii, I put the line kdesudo firestarter in the kate file I put in .kde/autostart(executable of course) [04:10] is that right? [04:11] r00t_ninja_: hang on a min brb [04:11] I have an autostart file, so I put the line kde firestarter in it [04:12] Orion777: So you have some file now in /home/yourusername/Autostart (with uppercase A in Autostart) ? [04:12] firestart have a option to start at start, dont? [04:13] can someone tell me if logging out is the same as restarting? [04:13] i think putting "ALL=NOPASSWD:firestarter" in your sudoers password should work [04:13] r00t_ninja_: hi - am back on the right pc now... about removing the pw from kwallet? [04:13] i think putting "ALL=NOPASSWD:firestarter" in your sudoers file should work [04:13] frybye: search wallet in the menu [04:14] genii, yes I have an autostart file in that folder [04:14] and you should find the Wallet Management Tool [04:14] and in it it says kdesudo firestarter, will that suffice? [04:14] for some reason, everytime it asks for admin pw not username pw [04:15] Orion777: If you put the full path to where firestarter is when you made the sudoers entry, it should work [04:15] Orion777: can i see your sudoers file? [04:15] r00t_ninja_: found the entry for amarok and passwords but dosent seem to offer much options? [04:15] wait [04:15] click file [04:15] change password [04:15] h [04:16] and then...? [04:16] click ok [04:16] leave a blank password [04:16] use a blank pw [04:16] yes [04:16] ok tks... [04:16] rootninja: in sudoers file, on its own line, it says orion ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter [04:16] the information is stored in your home directory anyway so other users wont be able to see it [04:16] Orion777: ok [04:17] so now I just add kdesudo firestarter to autostart file right? [04:17] Orion777: sudoers entry looks good [04:17] r00t_ninja_: thanks a lot - go test now - see you... [04:17] cya [04:17] Orion777: Yes, kdesudo firestarter should work. Maybe also check that that file is executable [04:18] so path is not needed this time [04:18] Orion777: Since is in default PATH should be OK. [04:19] k, and do I need to restart to try this or just logout [04:19] restart [04:19] not neccesary [04:19] Orion777: You might want to: chmod +x /home/yourusername/.kde/Autostart/whatever-your-filename-was [04:19] well might not be === Omar87__ is now known as Omar87 [04:20] use properties dialog box to do this [04:20] its more easly [04:21] zhanes: When possible I try to give desktop-environment-agnostic instructions [04:21] well, use it this time, so [04:22] trought dolphin [04:23] zhanes: You assume they are not using Konqueror, or Krusader, or some other thing ;) [04:24] dolphin maybe? [04:24] but, all of others have properties box [04:24] is generic [04:25] right? [04:25] zhanes: Not always. This is why i just prefer to give instructions which don't care about which file-manager someone uses or prefers, etc [04:25] in mozilla when i download something and say open containing folder it ask me for give supporting application .how to get rid of it? [04:26] always [04:26] and you are right, but is more simple to you give the executable attribute to archive from properties box [04:27] less chance to wrong type [04:31] k, firestarter loads but how do I put a delay on it [04:31] or auto click a dialog [04:31] a startup delay would work [04:33] how to find path of command [04:33] Orion777: You can add modify the startup script to something like: wait # && kdesudo firestarter where # is a number of seconds to pause === scubanator87_ is now known as stanner === stanner is now known as scubanator87___ [04:35] and literally put in &&? === bonzo is now known as Guest66966 [04:36] Orion777: Yes. The "&&" means to wait until the first thing is complete before starting to run the next thing === scubanator87___ is now known as stanner [04:37] by the way, can I remove gtk qtcurve entry from my autostart in system settings? [04:37] there is always this kdesudo error message on startup everytime and it was before we just did all this also [04:38] Orion777: If you are running GTK apps (like Firefox for instance) and want them to look something like the rest of your KDE desktop, probably leave the qtcurve [04:38] all I had in there was nvidia-settings -l, but something is trying to run on startup and erroring, where would I find it [04:38] qtcurve is eauty [04:38] qtcurve is beauty [04:39] yes I'm just trying to find what is running on startup that is kdesudo erroring [04:39] Oh righ, dont care its a bug only [04:39] its a bug? [04:39] nothing to worry [04:39] Orion777: Do you have a more exact error message that it gives? [04:39] this message was appeared here [04:40] but no more [04:40] I am looking for some assistance to find the gnome repository. I just installed mythbuntu, it uses xfce as the desktop. I want to install gnome but not all of the dependencies are available in the repository list. What repository do I need to add to get all the depenedncies so that I can install gnome? Can anone hlp m withthis? When I try to install gnome from the synaptic package manager, it informs me that I have missing [04:40] dependencies. That leads me to believe that I could resolve this problem if I had the proper repositories configured. I am looking for the repos but I cant find them. I have tryied www.gnomefiles.org and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672 Wwith no successful results. [04:40] mildred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [04:40] it says that the command is not using any ..what do you call it like the -l in nvidia-settings -l? [04:40] nothing works [04:41] then it gives the syntax for kdesudo like its telling me how to run it [04:41] so change syntaxe to recommended [04:41] of what? [04:41] I don't even know what its talking about [04:41] by kde sudo [04:42] but i think that could be symbol error [04:42] I wasn't running any kdesudo..just nvidia-settings -l [04:42] kde 4 has a provblem with symbols [04:42] sudo apt-get remove mono-common libmono0 [04:42] stop the reptilians! [04:42] %20 is present but not recognized [04:43] what symbol, the dash symbol? [04:43] its like as basic as it gets [04:43] Orion777: The "-l" switch of nvidia-settings means to load a config file and pass the settings found there to the graphical system (X server). Likely you have no config file [04:43] html symbology like %20 [04:44] but it is working because without it, my settings don't load [04:44] %20=space [04:44] change all %20 to space [04:44] genii, you're saying if I take out the -l it will still work? [04:44] maybe that [04:44] but then it will load the configurator [04:44] Orion777: Not sure. I haven't had to mess with nvidia-settings much [04:45] he is affirming that is possible to you dont have config file in x [04:45] is there a way to auto close dialogs on startup? [04:45] he is affirming that is possible to you dont have nvidia configuration file in x [04:46] well, I did save the x config file [04:46] genii its possible to rhim remove de autostart the nvidia-settings? [04:46] Orion777: To autoclose the firestarter dialog? [04:47] well, either that or this kdesudo error [04:47] genni i think ha his problem be a autostart that show desnecessary warnings [04:48] I"m getting a kdesudo error on startup that tells me correct syntax, and I don't know what its related to [04:49] my sound doesnt work [04:49] Orion777: Hm. I'm not sure. Wouldn't recommend removing the nvidia-settings unless you feel OK about maybe having to copy it back in there command-line if it fails horribly [04:49] reptilians might be interfering with pulseaudio [04:50] Akhenaton: The reptilians and libmono? ;) [04:50] Orion, go to autostart of kde and if have an auto-start for nvidia-settings, edit the archive or delete them [04:51] yes [04:51] Doorbell, AFK [04:53] you know else has the name mono? [04:53] who else* [04:53] THE DEVIL [05:02] the devil is satan man [05:02] do you solved your problem, akhenaton? [05:04] yes [05:06] ;-) [05:07] if not, use jack [05:07] how do I know whether I have static or dynamic IP? [05:09] your ip changes evry time when you connect to internet? [05:10] zhanes: I'm not quite sure. [05:11] what your ip now? [05:12] are you connected to internet throught a near server, or by a payed net provider [05:13] zhanes, edit the archives or delete them? [05:13] you mean the x config file? [05:14] better delet it, to me is a inutil archive, but if you prefer to preserve for security motives, then edit them [05:15] retire -l or comment [05:16] nvidia-settings will work without the -l? [05:16] sure [05:16] won't it open the configuration settings? [05:17] if you dont have any configuration file, how you want to load he configuration file? [05:17] i do not use nvidia-settings, i use kde settings [05:17] kde settings dont have digital vibrance [05:18] anyway, why take out the -l when I will then have to close a different window anyway(nvidia settings window) [05:18] but have gama and color [05:18] why not use [05:18] where is gamma? [05:19] --rep --til --ian [05:19] my LCD monitor have a good colors and digital vibrance distorce contrast [05:21] are you using karmic? [05:22] I'm using kubuntu 9.10, kde 4.34 [05:23] I just want to script this stuff, like how do I make stuff close at startup? [05:25] GRUB2 [05:25] its gnu slash free [05:25] well you can ertire -l tanquility [05:26] Akhenaton: You're being disruptive in this channel and in #ubuntu . Please stop. [05:28] ok [05:28] Akhenaton: Thanks. [05:28] genii, what will auto close to system tray these autostart entries? [05:29] cause once they open I don't need the open windows, just the little systray icons [05:29] for instance, what is the kdesudo syntax to minimize, close, etc? [05:30] Orion777: Not sure. Usually you'd have a command switch option, but this is dependent on whichever app it happens to be. Also some don't have this. [05:30] Orion777: It's not a kdesudo syntax thing. It's an application-dependent thing. [05:31] to find out, I would type for instance firestarter -h? [05:31] Orion777: Perhaps, or check it's manpage [05:31] it has no non-terminal choice for this [05:31] Orion777: I think it has some no-gui option but not sure [05:32] it says --start-hidden so I put that at the end of the kdesudo line yes? [05:32] Orion777: Probably your best option for that one [05:37] genii, pidgin does not have an option for this and it fills the panel with one of those app bars [05:38] Orion777: No idea on that one. [05:40] racist [05:40] Akhenaton, stop that [05:40] im being censored [05:40] Akhenaton: It's impossible to tell what race you are over the internet in the first place, in order to be able to discriminate against you as you claim. You're just being disruptive and annoying users [05:41] Akhenaton: I've given you ample polite warnings to desist [05:42] akhenaton, are you being censored by your religion? [05:42] Orion777: there is not much point having as all it is is a frontend for iptables which starts on boot anyway [05:42] reptilians are real [05:42] plus im black [05:42] you are a black reptil? [05:43] Akhenaton: You can discuss reptiles, etc in #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic [05:47] rootninja, how can I see that the iptables is running? [05:48] r00t where i can find nvsettings version 1.6? [05:49] (to download) [05:57] r00t, its serious. my graphic card is legacy and nvcontrol dont run in nvidia-settings 1.11 [06:05] ,\ [06:07] zhanes: how did you install your drivers? [06:11] by envy ng [06:11] auto-installation [06:13] I installed nvidia-settings from dapper version, but now adept is calling for update, can i hold the nvidia-settings version and adpt wont ask me for update again? [06:18] Orion777 Use nvidia-settings in autostart without kdesudo option. kdesudo option is the problem [06:18] the nvidia-settings -l [06:18] then "nvidia-settings -l" without kdesudo [06:20] you can "kcmshell nvidia-settings -l" [06:20] what is a dummy package? [06:20] Orion777 You can "kcmshell nvidia-settings -l" [06:21] Do you understood Orion777? [06:21] zhanes, I never used the kdesudo option, I just used nvidia-settings -l [06:21] so put in autostart without kdesudo, use kcmshell [06:22] --> "kcmshell nvidia-settings -l" [06:22] what does that do [06:22] it doesn't open anything? [06:22] well, will solve your problem with kdesudo warning and will put nvidia-settings in system tray [06:23] in system traay you always can access nvidia-settings [06:23] will kcmshell put anything in the systray? by systray you mean the little icons [06:23] ;-) [06:23] oh, but is to instant access. Good for administration [06:23] wow thanks for that trick [06:23] yes but does it load the settings in it? [06:24] in any time you can acces nvidia-settings [06:24] nvidia-settings -l just loads the config [06:24] sure, just loads [06:24] will kcmshell work for other apps too? [06:24] will load ~./nvidiarc [06:25] kcmshell doesnt appear to work for me [06:25] with kcmshell you will have the nvidia-settings for all time to acces in any moment that if you want [06:25] well, I really just want to load the settings at startup [06:26] if it loads them, I'm happy with that [06:26] Orion777: i thought it already did that? [06:26] yes, will load your default and put in system tray to you manage in any time [06:26] yes, but there is a kdesudo error at startup [06:26] rootninja [06:26] that shouldnt happen [06:26] r00t, dont worked to you? [06:26] well, how do I find out whats causing it? [06:27] go into system settings [06:27] the advanced tab [06:27] and then startup [06:27] i mean Auto Start [06:27] autostart section? the only things there are my autostart file and qtcurve gtk thing [06:28] and the only thing that was in my autostart file was nvidia-settings -l [06:28] no kdesudo nvidia-settings ? [06:28] oh, I was supposed to put kdesudo before it? [06:29] strangely it works anyway [06:29] but a dialog giving kdesudo syntax comes up for some reason [06:30] says kdesudo error no command line syntax, then shows basic syntax [06:31] no you wernt [06:31] i think that could be strange syntaxes [06:31] you wernt suposed to put kdesudo before it [06:31] k, I didn't [06:31] so i understood you wrong [06:31] go into system settings again [06:31] advanced [06:32] and then session manager [06:32] make sure on login it starts with an empty session [06:32] is this a permanent setting I'll want? [06:33] so anything I put in autostart folder should show up on system settings/autostart listings right? [06:35] put in start [06:36] r00t if i hold nvidia-settings package, the adept warning will desapear? [06:36] im not sure [06:36] what does put in start mean [06:36] zhanes: your using 8.10 right? [06:36] rootninja, so I put start with empty session, I want to keep it that way? [06:36] yes [06:37] choose start, not pre-startup KDE [06:37] that way when you log in any programs you had open when you last logged in wont still be there [06:37] yes, r00t [06:37] zhanes: you might want to consider doing a full install and backing up your home dir [06:37] so the empty sessions thing will remove the kdesudo error? [06:38] Orion777: maybe [06:38] maybe pre-startup KDE is the problem [06:38] zhanes: you could request a free cd if you dont have much bandwith or for other reasons [06:39] only the gtk thing should be pre startup [06:39] only gtk qtcurve is prestartup [06:39] i have a good bandwidth, but i want to hold nvidia-drivers [06:39] adept is warning to i update drivers, but i cant [06:40] zhanes: what drivers are you currently using? [06:40] the 96xx ones? [06:40] i'm using envy ng drivers and nvidia-settings from dapper [06:40] dappe package [06:40] dapper package [06:40] yeah, 96 series [06:41] they are available in 9.10 [06:41] sure, but dont run correctly [06:41] so if you remove them you will be able to get them again [06:41] zhanes: they do now i think [06:42] zhanes: there was an issue with nvidia not uppdating there legacy drivers for the latest xorg [06:42] but they updated [06:42] but my question is, if i hold the package, adept will stop warnings of update package? [06:43] zhanes: i am not sure [06:43] zhanes: its probably not a good idea because they would not be compiled for the latest kernel [06:44] well, i'm nothing to loose [06:44] well, the idea was hold kernel too [06:45]