| chrisccoulson | congrats charles :) | 00:06 |
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| nigel_nb | dtchen: how do i know from Card1.Amixer.values.txt whether sound is mute? | 02:59 |
| dtchen | nigel_nb: you read the mute/cap field | 03:03 |
| nigel_nb | thanks :) | 03:03 |
| dtchen | I hope that isn't too vague | 03:03 |
| dtchen | I can't tell these days whether I'm assuming too much, since I've been at this stuff over a decade | 03:03 |
| nigel_nb | that one's not my cup of tea | 03:05 |
| dtchen | which "one"? | 03:05 |
| nigel_nb | the report is that reduction in volume not permanent in pulseaudio | 03:05 |
| nigel_nb | bug 491704 | 03:05 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 491704 in pulseaudio "Sound volume is max on startup even when set to less " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491704 | 03:05 |
| dtchen | I think I've just asked for more info | 03:06 |
| dtchen | all bugs are the same -- not enough info | 03:06 |
| dtchen | that means we need to extend the apport hook, probably | 03:06 |
| nigel_nb | this one had info, you asked for something about ~/.asoundrc* | 03:07 |
| nigel_nb | :) | 03:07 |
| nigel_nb | u added just after I started seeing the page | 03:07 |
| dtchen | yes, because either/both /etc/asound.conf or/and ~/.asoundrc will preempt pulse | 03:07 |
| dtchen | this is due to the compatibility added back to retain ALSA precedence | 03:08 |
| nigel_nb | oh | 03:08 |
| nigel_nb | sound is still greek and latin to me :( | 03:08 |
| dtchen | I could remove that compatibility and break the expected, historical behavior of alsa-lib | 03:08 |
| dtchen | or I could retain that compatibility and face these sorts of bugs | 03:08 |
| nigel_nb | but breaking the historical behavior means a lot of people become lost? | 03:09 |
| dtchen | heh, this was an intrepid SRU | 03:09 |
| nigel_nb | as to how to fix and stuff like that | 03:09 |
| dtchen | nigel_nb: it would break people's installs that rely solely on ALSA (without PA) | 03:09 |
| hggdh | hey micahg, what is the PPA for the mozillateam? | 03:09 |
| micahg | hggdh: which one? | 03:09 |
| nigel_nb | dtchen: oh :) | 03:10 |
| hggdh | for thnderbird? | 03:10 |
| micahg | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa | 03:10 |
| dtchen | again, if we didn't have this horrendous split between Ubuntu and Xubuntu/Kubuntu, it would be easier | 03:10 |
| micahg | hggdh: for TB3? | 03:10 |
| micahg | hggdh: we only have dailies right now | 03:10 |
| hggdh | dailies would be good ;-) | 03:10 |
| micahg | hggdh: I built the just before release version in my ppa if you want | 03:11 |
| hggdh | cool -- but fta published today a new daily also. Same? | 03:12 |
| micahg | hggdh: dailies have been tracking 3.0.1 for a couple weeks | 03:12 |
| micahg | this was the last RC that I just built | 03:13 |
| hggdh | ppa:micahg/ppa? | 03:13 |
| micahg | hggdh: no, ppa:micahg/mozilla-beta | 03:13 |
| hggdh | thanks | 03:14 |
| nigel_nb | hggdh: fixed my first bug :) | 03:14 |
| hggdh | great nigel_nb ! | 03:15 |
| nigel_nb | of course, I got help, but it was fun :) I learned how to deal with that one | 03:15 |
| * micahg realizes that more people are going to be asking about TB3 soon :) | 03:16 | |
| * hggdh bets on it | 03:16 | |
| micahg | hggdh: you were number 3 I think | 03:16 |
| hggdh | :-) | 03:16 |
| nigel_nb | I saw a couple of people talking about it | 03:16 |
| hggdh | been thinking about it for a while (I mean TB itself); when Evo purged all my accounts from gconf I decided it was time to try | 03:17 |
| hggdh | now, I am curious if TB3 will be better than TB2 | 03:17 |
| hggdh | nigel_nb: which bug? | 03:18 |
| nigel_nb | bug 351509 | 03:20 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 351509 in vm-builder "vmbuilder should provide an option to choose which libvirt virtual network" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351509 | 03:20 |
| nigel_nb | I just did it | 03:20 |
| nigel_nb | maco___ helped me with it (actually gave me step-by-step instructions) | 03:21 |
| nigel_nb | but anything similar I can handle it I think :) | 03:22 |
| hggdh | nigel_nb: and you told me you did not do python ;-) | 03:23 |
| nigel_nb | hggdh: I didnt code | 03:24 |
| nigel_nb | there was a diff attached | 03:24 |
| nigel_nb | I got it packaged | 03:24 |
| hggdh | ah, OK. | 03:24 |
| nigel_nb | it was a low-hanging fruit :) | 03:24 |
| nigel_nb | and I plucked it :P | 03:24 |
| hggdh | nevertheless -- great work! first ever bug resolved, and getting also a debdiff accepted! | 03:25 |
| hggdh | (it took me 2 years to propose my first debdiff) | 03:25 |
| nigel_nb | oh | 03:25 |
| hggdh | well, to tell the truth, I did not have the time to invest then. But still | 03:26 |
| hggdh | hell, I do not have the time now, I should be getting ready to sleep! | 03:26 |
| nigel_nb | hehe, then go to bed :) | 03:26 |
| hggdh | heh. not yet, not yet... when I am in a hotel, I get insomnia | 03:27 |
| nigel_nb | hotel, wassup? | 03:29 |
| nigel_nb | work? | 03:29 |
| hggdh | yes. One *has* to work. | 03:30 |
| hggdh | and, as luck would have it, pretty much all my contracts are anywhere but home | 03:30 |
| hggdh | micahg: TB3.1 looks interesting. Really | 03:31 |
| micahg | I haven't tried 3.1 yet | 03:31 |
| nigel_nb | hggdh: ah. Been busy the whole day with User Day stuff | 03:32 |
| hggdh | micahg, I am not sure this is what you had in your PPA, I just grabbed the highest version I found on synaptic | 03:32 |
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| micahg | hggdh: you must have had the mozilla daily ppa enabled | 03:33 |
| shengie | Ubuntu rdesktop is buggy for me. There's a patch that whacks the keyboard in ubuntu, not accompanied with rdesktop.sourceforge.net | 03:47 |
| shengie | I reported a bug once (I thought) but no resolution. | 03:47 |
| micahg | shengie: bug #? | 03:48 |
| shengie | Lemme search... | 03:48 |
| shengie | argh, I don't see one I submitted. | 03:51 |
| shengie | There are similar bugs reported/open | 03:51 |
| shengie | maybe I didn't report one, because I needed a fix, which entailed compiling rdesktop.sourceforge.net | 03:52 |
| malev | hi, I'm new at the team bugsquad! And I'm reading the documentation in the wiki. Where can I see at the bugs lists? | 03:53 |
| shengie | There's a patch being applied by Ubuntu which breaks caps-lock and the numberpad. | 03:53 |
| micahg | shengie: well, you can file a bug and submit a patch to fix the patch or a replacement for it | 03:54 |
| shengie | Actually, I need the patch ubuntu applies (for who knows what reason) to be removed. | 03:56 |
| shengie | from the rdesktop code. | 03:56 |
| shengie | That's why I'm here, I don't know how to go about requesting it, but I suppose a bug-report is a good place to start. | 03:57 |
| shengie | Thanks | 03:57 |
| micahg | shengie: yes, file a bug, explain which patch is problematic | 03:58 |
| micahg | shengie: ubuntu-bug rdesktop | 03:58 |
| hggdh | malev: did you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs ? | 03:58 |
| malev | hggdh, yes, i read that | 04:03 |
| malev | I also read the faq and a class from pedro | 04:03 |
| malev | and some other things too :D | 04:03 |
| hggdh | malev: OK. So, how can I help you? | 04:04 |
| malev | hggdh, i wanted to know where can i found the list of bugs, you know, to start checking then | 04:05 |
| hggdh | malev: on bugs.launchpad.net -- try https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=project&field.scope.target=ubuntu | 04:07 |
| hggdh | any bug with status NEW, or (perhaps) INCOMPLETE, is usually fair game | 04:08 |
| malev | excelent! thanks | 04:08 |
| malev | when i find something new, i'm gonna come to ask here :D | 04:08 |
| hggdh | malev: if you have doubts on what do to, please ask | 04:08 |
| malev | hggdh, i will! don't worry | 04:09 |
| hggdh | well, this is it for tonight. G'night all | 04:22 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: do you have a bug # for the battery issue? | 08:02 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: no, I just noticed & fixed it when merging from debian testing in lucid. | 08:05 |
| micahg | ok, if you want, I can make the patch | 08:05 |
| mr_pouit | to sum up: battery notifications lack an icon on karmic | 08:05 |
| mr_pouit | if you want to update your debdiff, just take the patch xubuntu-notification-something (don't remember the exact name) from lucid. | 08:07 |
| micahg | ok, I'll build a test package and test in karmic before updating | 08:08 |
| mr_pouit | nice, thanks. | 08:09 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: is the test case in each bug, or all in one? | 08:14 |
| mr_pouit | for the missing icons? Usually, it's better with one issue per bug. | 08:21 |
| micahg | ok, so the debdiff goes in one, but the test case in each bug separately | 08:21 |
| micahg | ugh, this should be in -motu I think... | 08:22 |
| mr_pouit | ah, nevermind | 08:24 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, it's ok | 08:24 |
| micahg | ok | 08:25 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: thanks for the test case. Isn't "4.5. restart xfce4-power-manager" needed? | 08:49 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: yes, nice catch :) | 08:49 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: fixed...was thinking of my other case where it quits | 08:50 |
| micahg | I'm waiting for i386 to publish before I attach the debdiff | 08:51 |
| ^arky^ | hi | 09:09 |
| micahg | hi ^arky^ | 09:10 |
| ^arky^ | how are you micahg ? | 09:14 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: do I have to do anything else to test this...it didn't work | 09:14 |
| micahg | ^arky^: fine | 09:14 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: icons are still missing? | 09:15 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: yep, did it work on lucid...did you restart in between? | 09:15 |
| micahg | I quit before the upgrade | 09:15 |
| micahg | does OSD need a restart? | 09:15 |
| mr_pouit | no, only xfce4-power-manager afaik | 09:15 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: didn't work for me... | 09:16 |
| mr_pouit | do you have 'notify-osd-icons' package installed? | 09:16 |
| micahg | yep, 0.3 | 09:16 |
| mr_pouit | mmh, weird | 09:17 |
| micahg | do you want to try the package? | 09:17 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, why not | 09:18 |
| micahg | ppa:micahg/sru-test | 09:19 |
| mr_pouit | interesting | 09:22 |
| mr_pouit | works here ^^' | 09:22 |
| micahg | weird | 09:23 |
| micahg | let me try quitting again | 09:23 |
| * micahg has the brightness plugin, I wonder if that's affecting it | 09:24 | |
| ^arky^ | micahg: Changed Importance of bug 491327 to critical , hope that's right thing to do since it breaks gnome a11y completely | 09:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 491327 in at-spi "No module named pyatspi" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491327 | 09:24 |
| micahg | ^arky^: you still haven't found someone for that | 09:25 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: it's supposed to be in the notification itself, right? | 09:25 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: yes, the icon on the left, the text on the right | 09:26 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: i don't see it, and I didn't see one from pidgin either | 09:27 |
| ^arky^ | micahg: I tried Luke the maintainer of the package and on a11y list , no luck | 09:27 |
| mr_pouit | maybe something related to your icon theme... I don't really know :/ | 09:28 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: is this something that needs to be figured out before the SRU? | 09:28 |
| mr_pouit | well, I would be more confident if someone else could follow the test case and confirm. Otherwise, I may be the only one to see the improvement, which isn't very good ^^ | 09:31 |
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| rob0917 | I'm not very technical but how can I help? | 14:23 |
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| bddebian | Boo | 15:09 |
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| nperry | bug 494608 | 17:37 |
| ubot4 | nperry: Bug 494608 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/494608 is private | 17:37 |
| nperry | Could somone double check this bug, and make public? | 17:38 |
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| Dakon | hi ;) | 18:42 |
| Dakon | I would like to help with bug 470695 in case anyone is interested | 18:42 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 470695 in kdeutils "Kgpg doesn't run by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/470695 | 18:42 |
| Dakon | this is most likely either just the KGpg icon hidden in systray (because KGpg is inactive) | 18:45 |
| Dakon | or this one https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198483 | 18:45 |
| ubot4 | KDE bug 198483 in general "No system tray icon for KGpg after "Close" button is clicked" [Normal,Assigned] | 18:45 |
| Dakon | the hidden thing is explained in comment #2 there | 18:46 |
| yofel | can someone set bug 494643 to triaged? thanks | 19:15 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 494643 in kdebase "No kcm_phonon in kdebase-runtime after upgrade to 4.4-beta1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494643 | 19:15 |
| micahg | pedro_: sorry...that was a silly mistake :) | 19:21 |
| pedro_ | micahg, no worries, the name leads to the confusion :-) | 19:22 |
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| aergasdf | someone there? | 20:46 |
| davmor2 | no | 20:49 |
| aergasdf | okey | 20:49 |
| aergasdf | last hope | 20:49 |
| aergasdf | i have a bug in a game | 20:50 |
| aergasdf | after a time the sound just stops | 20:50 |
| aergasdf | this bug is since dist upgrate | 20:50 |
| davmor2 | aergasdf: is a bug with the game and pulse audio | 20:51 |
| aergasdf | so i have to downgrade pusaudio? | 20:51 |
| davmor2 | what game is it? | 20:52 |
| aergasdf | heroes of newerth | 20:52 |
| aergasdf | so? | 20:55 |
| davmor2 | aergasdf: pass, I just know what is causing it :) | 20:56 |
| aergasdf | what? | 20:57 |
| aergasdf | come on^^ | 20:57 |
| aergasdf | its a mod of savage2 | 20:57 |
| davmor2 | aergasdf: you might want to try on #ubuntu for general help. As I say I know the cause but not the remedy | 20:58 |
| aergasdf | warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite | 21:01 |
| aergasdf | does this help??? | 21:01 |
| gnomefreak | what package controls system beep? i am looking for package to file bug against | 21:04 |
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