| === astechgeek is now known as techgeek | ||
| === astechgeek is now known as techgeek | ||
| === techgeek_ is now known as techgeek | ||
| ara | good morning all :) | 07:01 |
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| ara | Alternate images are up! | 07:17 |
| * ara syncs | 07:17 | |
| * ara takes ubuntu alt i386 full disk | 07:47 | |
| ara | broken packages now in lucid. alpha 1 needs a respin | 08:32 |
| ara | morning davmor2 | 08:50 |
| davmor2 | morning ara thought you were going to miss the fun of non installing iso's | 08:50 |
| ara | davmor2, I already started! non-installable metacity package :-) isos respining now | 08:51 |
| davmor2 | ara: one up on yesterday that ubiquity crashed and n-m didn't work | 08:53 |
| * ara steps out to grab a coffee | 08:54 | |
| === natureshadow1 is now known as natureshadow | ||
| * soren cheers as autotest is finally imported into bzr on Launchpad. | 11:42 | |
| soren | 13 hours that took! | 11:42 |
| soren | Glad I didn't sit around waiting for it. | 11:42 |
| ara | \o/ | 11:42 |
| Yos | I just did the upgrade to lucid (again) and now I have 2 listings of almost everything listed in System-->Preferences | 12:27 |
| ara | Yos, what do you mean? | 12:29 |
| Yos | I have double listings | 12:30 |
| Yos | 2 about me; 2 appearance...etc | 12:31 |
| Yos | weird | 12:32 |
| Yos | Somethings are listed twice and some only once | 12:33 |
| === natureshadow1 is now known as natureshadow | ||
| ara | I am stepping out now for lunch. I would look into it afterwards | 12:37 |
| * ara -> lunch | 12:37 | |
| * nperry downloads server iso to do some tests on :) | 13:13 | |
| === fader|away is now known as fader_ | ||
| cr3 | davmor2: hey dude, thanks for the heads up about the dns records, trying it out right now | 13:40 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Though the subject line made me think you wanted to sell me herbal v1agr4 ;) | 13:42 |
| cr3 | fader_: totally, I only caught his message microseconds before purging my deleted messages | 13:44 |
| cr3 | soren: I'm pointing at my hand now and I still have no clue what that means | 13:49 |
| cr3 | soren: on a more serious note, you might like to heed davmor2's warning too: since you've been working on automating the server install, you might like to know that there's apparently a new prompt for downloading iana records | 13:50 |
| Yos | I just did the upgrade to lucid (again) and now I have 2 listings of almost everything listed in System-->Preferences | 13:57 |
| Yos | Somethings are listed twice and some only once | 13:57 |
| ara | Yos, does restarting the session help? | 14:01 |
| davmor2 | cr3, fader_: np | 14:02 |
| Yos | I will try a re-boot | 14:02 |
| davmor2 | cr3, fader_: Actually the heading was deliberate I thought you'd read it :D | 14:03 |
| fader_ | davmor2: I actually have a filter that takes anything from you and marks it as spam anyway. Not sure how this one slipped through. :P | 14:03 |
| cr3 | davmor2: you need something like: enlarge your manhood/rocket/cracker/etc. | 14:03 |
| moustafa | davmor2, cr3, fader_ : Hon hon! | 14:04 |
| davmor2 | cr3, fader_: Problem then is the spam filters eat it :) | 14:04 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: morning | 14:04 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Hey dude | 14:05 |
| davmor2 | cr3: I'm not sure if the same thing will happen on the live cd as I haven't had a live install work to date yet | 14:05 |
| cr3 | davmor2: I'll try it later, for good measure, but the alternate is chugging along quite nicely so far | 14:05 |
| soren | cr3: Yeah, no worries. Thanks. | 14:06 |
| moustafa | are you testing stuff without me? | 14:06 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: not his fault you weren't quick enough ;) | 14:07 |
| moustafa | davmor2: I blame the timezone advantage | 14:07 |
| Yos | That was strange but a restart cured it | 14:08 |
| davmor2 | ara: xubuntu alt fails unmet deps | 14:13 |
| ara | davmor2, nice :-\ | 14:13 |
| ara | davmor2, I will try ubuntu alt i386 | 14:13 |
| moustafa | I can't seem to subscribe to the tests :( | 14:25 |
| ara | moustafa, why, what happens? | 14:30 |
| moustafa | ara: No check boxes to subscribe. I hope it's not a big deal | 14:32 |
| moustafa | Sorry, had to force reboot. | 14:39 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: are you logged in? | 14:40 |
| moustafa | davmor2: Yes I am | 14:40 |
| davmor2 | if you are, are you on the right page? | 14:40 |
| moustafa | Or, at least, I was | 14:40 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/3450 is an example of the page you need to be on to assign a test to yourself | 14:41 |
| moustafa | Or, I thought I was...yes I'm confusing myself now | 14:41 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: now make your mind up either you were or you weren't ;) | 14:42 |
| fader_ | moustafa: I've got your back... don't listen to davmor2 -- he's a meanie. | 14:44 |
| * davmor2 grabs sharpening stone and axe and wonders if he can hit fader_ from here | 14:45 | |
| * fader_ wonders idly about ICBAs. | 14:45 | |
| moustafa | fader_: He can't be a meanie, he's british! *ducks impending rocks* | 14:46 |
| moustafa | Ok, I don't think I'm part of QA | 14:46 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: I think you'll find I was born in England making me English not british :P | 14:47 |
| fader_ | moustafa: I haven't forgiven davmor2 for burning the White House down in 1814 | 14:47 |
| davmor2 | fader_: Don't worry the indians haven't forgiven you and they are closer than me :P | 14:48 |
| moustafa | fader_ : I thought you haven't forgiven him for being part of the country that brought us the Spice Girls and Simon Cowbell or whatever his name is | 14:48 |
| * fader_ laughs. | 14:48 | |
| fader_ | davmor2: I think moustafa beat both of us in that round. | 14:48 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: this from the country that brought us Micheal Buble | 14:49 |
| moustafa | davmor2: It could be a "touché, sir", but while I do live in Canada, I wasn't born here. | 14:50 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: hmmm where were you born then? | 14:51 |
| * fader_ is guessing "the moon" | 14:52 | |
| moustafa | davmor2: Lebanon. So, fader_ wasn't that far off. :P | 14:52 |
| * davmor2 is guessing at egypt region | 14:52 | |
| davmor2 | moustafa: do me a favour then please point at cr3 and say Buble it's all your fault ;) | 14:55 |
| moustafa | davmor2: Done :D | 14:56 |
| moustafa | davmor2: Incidentally, I has suddenly become my last day at the office. I wonder why cr3 said that | 14:56 |
| davmor2 | hahahaha | 14:57 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: just tell him it's that fader_ dude he's a bad influence on you :D | 14:58 |
| moustafa | davmor2: It's easy to blame americans on being a bad influence. It's hilarious to blame the older countries | 14:59 |
| cr3 | davmor2: alternate installed just fine with my original preseed | 15:00 |
| nperry | Humm server testing is fun :) | 15:01 |
| davmor2 | cr3: does dns work though? | 15:01 |
| davmor2 | ara: how's ubuntu alt behaving? | 15:02 |
| cr3 | davmor2: ya man, hosts resolve just fine | 15:02 |
| cr3 | davmor2: if you mean a server install configured with bind, then I don't know | 15:03 |
| fader_ | nperry: :) | 15:03 |
| davmor2 | cr3: I'll take a snapshot of it when the request comes up | 15:03 |
| ara | davmor2, I haven't had the time to start, I was in a call. I will do it now | 15:17 |
| moustafa | Does "fails to restart at the end of the install" count as a bug? | 15:36 |
| fader_ | moustafa: I would say that a failure to restart at the end of the install is definitely a bug, but probably not a critical one | 15:36 |
| fader_ | File it, add it to the ISO tracker, but if that's the only bug you see I wouldn't mark it as a failure | 15:37 |
| moustafa | fader_ : I would have been surprised if it was critical | 15:37 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: on what? | 15:37 |
| moustafa | I guess "ubuntu-bug ubiquity" would be what's needed? | 15:37 |
| moustafa | LiveCD, Free Software Only install | 15:37 |
| fader_ | moustafa: I assume you were asked if you wanted to restart now and said yes? | 15:39 |
| moustafa | Yes | 15:39 |
| fader_ | Yeah, my guess would be ubiquity | 15:39 |
| fader_ | If that's not right cjwatson will move it to the right place | 15:40 |
| moustafa | "Package ubiquity does not exist". Reasonable, since it's removed at the end of the install | 15:40 |
| moustafa | I'll file the bug manually, then. No big deal | 15:41 |
| fader_ | moustafa: What you can try is to file the bug and then use 'apport-collect' to add the logfiles, etc. to it | 15:42 |
| moustafa | that should work | 15:42 |
| moustafa | Sonova...I just reported the bug, but it didn't stick :S | 16:01 |
| moustafa | I guess Launchpad is being clogged hard today | 16:02 |
| ulysses__ | hello testers | 16:07 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: Hello | 16:07 |
| moustafa | hello ulyssess_ | 16:07 |
| moustafa | *Hello ulysses__ | 16:08 |
| moustafa | Launchpad bug: 494563 I can't add any of the requested files because they are empty :( | 16:09 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: try opening one of the files | 16:11 |
| ulysses__ | I think sudo is not neccessary when using cat | 16:16 |
| moustafa | ulysses__: I think it is if you want to read files that are locked | 16:18 |
| moustafa | ulysses__ I can confirm it | 16:18 |
| moustafa | davmor2: Thanks for reminding me of cat :) | 16:20 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: it's got me outta some binds | 16:20 |
| moustafa | There we go, that should do it | 16:21 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: you do need sudo or lp would be able to access the files :) | 16:21 |
| fader_ | davmor2, moustafa: Bah. cat is too easy. | 16:21 |
| fader_ | http://media.tkk.fi/en/xmas-party-2009/unix-shell-challenge.html | 16:21 |
| fader_ | Real men hack a way to do it with 'man' :) | 16:22 |
| davmor2 | fader_: are you trying to say that real men do it with man if so that sounds so gay ;) | 16:23 |
| moustafa | davmor2 has a point | 16:25 |
| fader_ | Nothing wrong with that ;) | 16:25 |
| davmor2 | cr3: it's me, it's not dns it's snmp | 16:25 |
| davmor2 | notice reads " Various snmp software needs extracted MIBs from RFCs and IANA - which cannot be shipped - to be working as expected. These MIBs can be automatically fetched and extracted as part of installing this package. | 16:29 |
| davmor2 | This will take serveral minutes to complete, even with a fast internet connection. | 16:29 |
| davmor2 | Download and extract MIBs from RFCs and IANA? | 16:29 |
| davmor2 | cr3, fader_: ^ | 16:29 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Thanks | 16:29 |
| * moustafa wonders who keeps drinking the Dr Pepper without putting some back in the fridge | 16:30 | |
| moustafa | What? I'm trying to keep this off-topic | 16:30 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: it's you | 16:31 |
| moustafa | davmor2: This isn't a soap opera where it turns out that I'm my evil twin brother, is it? | 16:32 |
| davmor2 | no that would be moustafa3 | 16:32 |
| moustafa | but...moustafa3 is...ME! *cue dramatic music with some camera zoom* | 16:33 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: you'll never get this evil bit right if you don't end in muhahahahaha! | 16:34 |
| moustafa | davmor2: I was doing the horrified revelation scene | 16:35 |
| moustafa | davmor2: So you wouldn't suspect a thing! MUAHAHAHAHAHA | 16:35 |
| moustafa | ! | 16:35 |
| ulysses__ | Ok, test environment ready | 16:36 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: See told you, it was you drink the dr. pepper and not replacing it :P | 16:36 |
| moustafa | davmor2: But...it can't be! *bites knuckles* | 16:37 |
| * moustafa hopes there's no one called knuckles in here | 16:37 | |
| ulysses__ | Hm, update-notifier-kde says 'Upgrading to Kubuntu 9.10' | 16:38 |
| * davmor2 begs god to let there be ;) | 16:38 | |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: did you do it right? | 16:38 |
| ulysses__ | davmor2: yes, 'update-notifier-kde -d -c' | 16:39 |
| fagan | meeting in 20? | 16:41 |
| fader_ | fagan: I believe so, yes | 16:41 |
| davmor2 | fagan: 19 | 16:41 |
| fagan | :) | 16:41 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: try update-notifier-kde -u | 16:46 |
| ulysses__ | the upgrade is running | 16:47 |
| ulysses__ | http://noob.hu/2009/12/09/desk2.png | 16:49 |
| ulysses__ | downloading the package was only 7-8 minutes, now the upgrade is about 40 minutes:P | 16:50 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: you got an ubuntu lucid desktop in front of you? | 16:55 |
| moustafa | Had one. Doing another install with manual partitioning in a VM | 16:57 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: it's okay had word back from pitti | 16:59 |
| moustafa | ptti? | 16:59 |
| fagan | moustafa: martin pitt | 17:00 |
| moustafa | fagan: Ah, I haven't had the pleasure | 17:00 |
| fagan | Hes awesome | 17:00 |
| fader_ | QA team meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now -- everyone is welcome to come listen and/or contribute! | 17:01 |
| moustafa | fagan: I'll have to go by your word at the moment. :) | 17:01 |
| fagan | :) | 17:01 |
| ulysses__ | Ok, I upgraded my VM, and no I don't have panel, plasmoids, nothing, the screen resolution is only 800x600 instead of 1366x768 | 17:20 |
| ulysses__ | I use Virtualbox, with Guest Additions | 17:20 |
| ulysses__ | I can't choose older kernel, I don't see the GRUB | 17:21 |
| moustafa | GRUB2 is displayed by holding the shift button at bootup | 17:22 |
| ulysses__ | Ok, I could enter into GRUB, now I choosed kernel 2.6.31 | 17:28 |
| ulysses__ | Same thing, guest additions doesn't work after upgrade | 17:29 |
| ulysses__ | I think I should test the upgrade without Guest Additions | 17:31 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: Guest Additions will of been removed as part of the upgrade you will need to add it again iirc | 17:32 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: really? I wouldn't have guessed that, but it's worth verifying. | 17:36 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: just a guess but I know it removes repos that aren't ubuntu's main 4 to help solve upgrade issues | 17:38 |
| ulysses__ | Now, I reinstalled guest additions, no reboot the VM | 17:39 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: sure, but virtualbox-ose-guest-{utils,x11} are in universe | 17:39 |
| Grantbow | nothing but main? wow | 17:40 |
| sbeattie | Grantbow: ? | 17:41 |
| davmor2 | Grantbow: no main 4 | 17:41 |
| davmor2 | as in main restricted universe and multiverse | 17:41 |
| Grantbow | oh, ok | 17:41 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: yes but it is installed into the guest it's not used from the guests repo is it? | 17:42 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but yes, you install those packages through the guest's repos; alternatively, you can use the virtualbox interface to do the fake cdrom thing, but choosing the packages will likely have better results. | 17:44 |
| moustafa | I thought the guest add-ons were available via synaptic | 17:49 |
| moustafa | from within the machine, that is | 17:49 |
| sbeattie | ulysses__: perhaps that's the question we should be asking you; how did you install the guest utilities before upgrading? | 17:50 |
| ulysses__ | I mounted the Guest Additions cd image with, and run the installer from konsole | 17:50 |
| moustafa | ulysses__: It's still probable they were removed afterwards | 17:51 |
| moustafa | Try and find them in KPackageKit, or synaptic | 17:52 |
| moustafa | Just a lookup for virtualbox should do | 17:52 |
| ulysses__ | I use the closed-source edition of Virtualbox | 17:53 |
| moustafa | Ah | 17:55 |
| ulysses__ | No problem, I repeat the test without guest additions | 17:55 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: that is the method I have used in the past using the additions cd image. That is the method where by it gets removed. | 18:19 |
| sbeattie | ah. | 18:19 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: haven't used vb for a while though and that was the recommended way at the time :) | 18:22 |
| moustafa | davmor2: Good thing the repositories make the process a lot easier then | 18:34 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: I don't know I use kvm and virt-manager | 18:35 |
| moustafa | haven't used those, don't know if they can do what I want them to do | 18:35 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: I found kvm to be significantly slower than virtualbox on my particular hardware... | 18:36 |
| === fader_ is now known as fader|lunch | ||
| davmor2 | sbeattie: it's fine for what I need which tends to be checking that stuff does work | 18:37 |
| davmor2 | I mostly test on hw though | 18:37 |
| === moustafa is now known as away|lunch | ||
| nagappan | any clues, why I get this on Ubuntu 9.10 | 19:01 |
| nagappan | --2009-12-09 10:34:15-- http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_10.0.42.34.orig.tar.gz | 19:01 |
| nagappan | Resolving archive.canonical.com... 91.189.90.142 | 19:01 |
| nagappan | Connecting to archive.canonical.com|91.189.90.142|:80... failed: Connection timed out. | 19:01 |
| nagappan | Retrying. | 19:01 |
| nperry | INTERWEB BROKEN | 19:17 |
| nperry | nagappan: it works for me, on lucid | 19:17 |
| nagappan | nperry, ah ! ok | 19:18 |
| nagappan | nperry, now retry 14 is going on | 19:18 |
| nagappan | nperry, except this package all other packages are getting installed | 19:18 |
| nagappan | nperry, ah ! through FF it works ! | 19:19 |
| nperry | How odd :s | 19:19 |
| nagappan | nperry, guess its not getting the proxy info correctly ? | 19:19 |
| nperry | Im never a fan of proxies :) | 19:20 |
| nagappan | nperry, in my org (VMware) we don't have any other option | 19:20 |
| nagappan | nperry, we have to access outside world, only through proxy | 19:20 |
| nperry | I feel for you | 19:20 |
| davmor2 | nagappan: I just tried it works fine from here on real hw | 19:20 |
| nagappan | davmor2, cool, I think it should be proxy issue, synaptic doesn't pickup the proxy info when trying to fetch a file outside of .deb repo | 19:21 |
| nagappan | nperry, davmor2, it works fine with "dselect install" from command line | 19:25 |
| === fader|lunch is now known as fader_ | ||
| ara | does sound work fine for you on real hw? | 19:29 |
| ara | in kvm ubuntu opening sound is something like prrrr, brrrr, prrrr | 19:31 |
| ulysses__ | I upgraded a Kubuntu Karmic in Virtualbox to Lucid, but the upgrade failed. After login I got a text screen with lots of error messages. Should I attach a screenshot about the VM to a bug report? What should I report? | 19:33 |
| ara | ulysses__, the logs at /var/log/dist-upgrade are the most useful | 19:36 |
| ara | ulysses__, do you get a console? | 19:36 |
| ulysses__ | no, only a screen full with error messages. I didn't try recovery mode yet | 19:37 |
| ara | ulysses__, but you say "after login" | 19:38 |
| ulysses__ | yes. I type my password, press the Enter, and then it change to a black screen, full with messages | 19:39 |
| ulysses__ | screenshot: http://noob.hu/2009/12/09/upgarde.png | 19:39 |
| ara | ulysses__, I got that too on kvm, it recovers, though, after a couple of minutes | 19:41 |
| ulysses__ | hm, if I am right, the upgrade was not completed, I choosed recovery console and fix broken packages | 19:41 |
| ulysses__ | it looks good, the X started after fixing broken packages | 19:44 |
| ulysses__ | nice:) | 19:44 |
| ara | ulysses__, the udevd warnings are irrelevant to the fail of upgrade | 19:45 |
| ara | ulysses__, the warnings are known as bug 491775 | 19:45 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 491775 in brltty "udevd warnings in /lib/udev/rules.d/85-brltty.rules" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491775 | 19:45 |
| ara | ulysses__, now that you recovered, it would be nice to have a look under your /var/log/dist-upgrade to check any upgrade errors | 19:45 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: it may of been that the archive is still being worked on for kubuntu | 19:48 |
| ulysses__ | many message in apt-log "package .... broken, depends on..." | 19:50 |
| === away|lunch is now known as moustafa | ||
| * moustafa has a croissant | 19:54 | |
| fader_ | It's true, he does have a croissant | 19:55 |
| fader_ | He's very popular. | 19:55 |
| cr3 | fader_: it's really true, he does have a croissant | 19:56 |
| moustafa | fader_ : It's tasty too | 19:57 |
| fader_ | moustafa: If it crashes before the last bite, you should be able to run 'ubuntu-bug pastry --type=croissant' | 19:58 |
| moustafa | Great, I just realized baguette would make for a great easter egg in a video game | 19:58 |
| moustafa | I didn't know ubuntu-bug extended to pastries | 19:58 |
| moustafa | fader_ : it's pretty handy | 19:59 |
| * moustafa wonders if ubuntu-bug can be any handy-er | 20:00 | |
| fader_ | moustafa: The real problem is getting USB drivers from the bakery so you can plug a keyboard into the bread | 20:00 |
| moustafa | fader_ : Can't we just use ndswrapper? | 20:01 |
| davmor2 | fader_: any of the certified stuff got an ati gfx card in it? | 20:01 |
| fader_ | moustafa: That will get you etherloaf but not keybread | 20:02 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Hmm, possibly. Looking for desktop? | 20:02 |
| davmor2 | fader_: yes jockey fail confirmation | 20:02 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Give me a couple of minutes to look. Also, I thought ATI open-sourced their driver? | 20:03 |
| davmor2 | fader_: there are 2 they open-sourced what they could but still have the fglrx binary | 20:04 |
| davmor2 | fader_: I think the 2d works wicked though | 20:04 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Will a laptop do or does it need to be a desktop specifically? | 20:07 |
| davmor2 | fader_: that'll do | 20:08 |
| fader_ | If a laptop will do I have one lined up for you that moustafa has physical access to | 20:08 |
| * fader_ whistles innocently and acts nonchalant about passing off work to someone else. | 20:08 | |
| davmor2 | fader_: yeah laptop is fine it's only to double check if jockey is working with ati fglrx | 20:09 |
| fader_ | davmor2: What needs to happen? | 20:09 |
| davmor2 | do an install wait for jockey to say there are drivers available and try and install them :) | 20:10 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Okay. Got a "Mobility Radeon HD 4300 Series" card in one ready to try. | 20:10 |
| fader_ | moustafa: I'll set up an install of system 200910-4252 in the lab; can you go stab the power button in a moment and get it started? | 20:11 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Actually, it has yesterday's image already installed if that will do | 20:11 |
| fader_ | If not I'll reimage it | 20:11 |
| moustafa | fader_ : Should I do it now? | 20:12 |
| davmor2 | might do | 20:12 |
| davmor2 | fader_: ^ | 20:12 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Hang on, let's try it as it is now | 20:12 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Can you go log into that system and run jockey? System - Administration - Hardware Drivers | 20:12 |
| moustafa | fader_ I have to reboot it, it froze after I took it out of the screensaver | 20:14 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, I screwed the tracker up before I downloaded the new images. Xubuntu alternate 64 worked | 20:15 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Weird... I'm still logged into it | 20:15 |
| fader_ | moustafa: let me reboot it from here | 20:15 |
| moustafa | all right | 20:15 |
| * davmor2 ponders if this is the malware screensaver | 20:15 | |
| fader_ | moustafa: Er, wait, I lied | 20:15 |
| fader_ | my connection hung | 20:15 |
| moustafa | Ah, Ha! | 20:15 |
| fader_ | I should have noticed that the hostname changed on my prompt :) | 20:15 |
| fader_ | You'll have to engage manual override | 20:16 |
| moustafa | fader_ It's rebooting | 20:17 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Thanks. | 20:17 |
| moustafa | be back in 2 minutes | 20:17 |
| fader_ | davmor2: So what would indicate that we need to reinstall this system and test again? If jockey works perfectly or if it breaks horribly? | 20:17 |
| fader_ | I assume you're seeing breakage? | 20:17 |
| davmor2 | yeah bug 494699 | 20:18 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 494699 in jockey "Ati binary driver failed to install using jockey" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494699 | 20:18 |
| charlie-tca | davmor2: how thorough is the testing for alpha1? | 20:19 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: nail as much as you can :) | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | will do. Been trying for two days just to get an install | 20:20 |
| charlie-tca | Everything after that is a plus! | 20:21 |
| davmor2 | try and stagger it so all the ground is covered | 20:22 |
| davmor2 | yeah everything has been a bit broken | 20:22 |
| davmor2 | fader_, moustafa: any joy? | 20:27 |
| moustafa | back, I guess I need for the install to finish before trying jockey again | 20:28 |
| moustafa | davmor2: I had to manually reboot the machine, so it went into the network install | 20:28 |
| davmor2 | :( | 20:30 |
| sal_ | new to testing. have an extra partition set off of an existing install. would like to get lucid in there .. | 20:31 |
| sal_ | would like to boot from usb if possible | 20:31 |
| ulysses__ | any kubuntu tester here, or I am alone?:) | 20:31 |
| sal_ | any suggestions welcome - i've read through the wiki pages already .. | 20:32 |
| moustafa | sal_ : it is possible, just the USB Startup Disk Creator | 20:32 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: no I move on to kubuntu | 20:32 |
| sal_ | got the usb creator. should i go ahead and use the cuurent .iso? | 20:33 |
| davmor2 | sal_: yeap | 20:33 |
| sal_ | can i do all the rsync on the usb? or once i get the install, is the update mgr work from there? | 20:34 |
| sal_ | any advice on setting up good partitions? | 20:34 |
| moustafa | sal_: Not sure if you can rsync the usb, as for good partitions, I usually split it in 3 to keep it simple | 20:36 |
| moustafa | sal_ : One for root of 4-8 Gb, one for Swap (up to 2Gb) and the rest for Home | 20:36 |
| davmor2 | sal_: once installed you can just use update manager to keep the image up-to-date. If you have free space on the drive just tell ubuntu to use the free space and leave it at that | 20:37 |
| moustafa | sal_ : The three partitions is for a hard drive. Keep the USB drive at one partition, unless you plan on never inserting it into a Windows machine | 20:38 |
| sal_ | thanks folks .. | 20:40 |
| sal_ | the drive i am working on has swap existing, about 8gb running linuxmint now, the other 100-ish gb holding an old ubuntu install, maybe 6.10. | 20:43 |
| sal_ | it is this last partition (all ext3) i would like to wipe clean for lucid. do not have a separate /home partition .. | 20:44 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: is there an easy way to get the dl-ubuntu-test-iso.py | 20:46 |
| moustafa | davmor2, fader_: jockey-gtk fails to start | 20:46 |
| davmor2 | yay that's worse than I got :) | 20:46 |
| moustafa | Even the text mode fails | 20:47 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: it very recently got renamed (dropping the .py) but can be downloaded from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/ubuntu-qa-tools/master/annotate/head%3A/dl-ubuntu-test-iso/dl-ubuntu-test-iso | 20:47 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: ^ | 20:48 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: is that what all the moved bits were in the last bzr pull | 20:49 |
| ulysses__ | got it | 20:49 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: yep | 20:49 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: the old shell script went away, and the horrible python version finally got promoted to take its place. | 20:50 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: like I say it will zsync everything which means the first run will be slowish but after that it'll only grab the difference between isos | 20:50 |
| moustafa | fader_ : I found an interesting bug on 200910-4252 | 21:02 |
| moustafa | fader_ : The F1-F12 keys are interpreted as their fn functions, rather than the usual F1-F12 | 21:02 |
| moustafa | fader_ : Any idea as to why the laptops in the lab don't have internet access? | 21:13 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Yes :) | 21:14 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Because they're behind a firewall that is configured to not allow them internet access | 21:14 |
| moustafa | fader_ Ah, so how would I go about to giving them access to launchpad? | 21:14 |
| fader_ | moustafa: They can get updates from the archive but that's about it | 21:14 |
| fader_ | moustafa: It'd be a long involved process, unfortunately. It's on my list of things to research, but I wouldn't count on it happening in the next week. :/ | 21:15 |
| moustafa | Gotcha | 21:15 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Re the F1-12 keys, I'm honestly not sure if that's a bug or a feature... it might be hardware-dependent | 21:16 |
| fader_ | Though I am pretty sure there's a bug already filed about it if you poke around | 21:16 |
| moustafa | fader_ I'm searching for anything similar, and I'm pretty sure it's a bug | 21:16 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: for now you can grab the crash file from /var/crash drop it onto a usb stick and then run ubuntu-bug /media/path/to/usbstick to fire off the report | 21:17 |
| ulysses__ | davmor2: what should I do, if I want to download only the i386 ISOs? | 21:17 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Does that work correctly? I thought you had to run ubuntu-bug on the system where the crash occurred for it to be valuable | 21:18 |
| fader_ | Even with a crash file I mean | 21:18 |
| davmor2 | sorry should read ubuntu-bug /media/path/to/usbstick/_crash_file | 21:18 |
| davmor2 | fader_: worked for me when I had no internet but it needs to be a crash which grabs the info in advance | 21:19 |
| fader_ | bdmurray: I think you know the answer to this :) Is it valid to copy the crash dump from one machine and run ubuntu-bug against it on another machine? | 21:19 |
| moustafa | davmor2: There's nothing in /var/crash | 21:20 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Hmm, I swear I thought I heard someone say that didn't work correctly, but I'll bow to your experience. | 21:20 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: but it crashed right? | 21:21 |
| moustafa | davmor2: It simply didn't start | 21:21 |
| moustafa | I could try it again to make sure, but it just doesn't start | 21:21 |
| moustafa | even by going through the terminal, it fails | 21:21 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: run it from cli | 21:21 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: it might fail but it should give some info some where | 21:22 |
| moustafa | davmor2: see my previous comment ;) | 21:22 |
| moustafa | davmor2: I could redirect the output if that could help | 21:22 |
| bdmurray | fader_: yes, that would work | 21:24 |
| davmor2 | fader_: :P | 21:24 |
| fader_ | bdmurray: Thanks. | 21:24 |
| * fader_ heaps ashes on his head. | 21:24 | |
| fader_ | davmor2: You were right; mea culpa mea maxima culpa. :) | 21:24 |
| davmor2 | fader_: your a cuppa ;) | 21:26 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: add --only-variant=i386 | 21:28 |
| ulysses__ | thanks | 21:29 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: sorry --only-arch=i386 | 21:29 |
| charlie-tca | Anyone else seeing no splash screens when the desktop cd starts up | 21:59 |
| ulysses__ | yes | 21:59 |
| charlie-tca | bug number? | 21:59 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: I think there is one but it is stupidly faded | 22:00 |
| charlie-tca | great! | 22:00 |
| * charlie-tca still glad to have the desktop cd today | 22:01 | |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: and on alpha 1 that has to be a record I can't remember the last time we had live cd's on alpha1 | 22:03 |
| davmor2 | 2+ yes | 22:03 |
| charlie-tca | That's right... It should be alternate only, right? | 22:03 |
| davmor2 | normally | 22:04 |
| charlie-tca | Karmic was the first time Xubuntu even had any alpha 1 image | 22:07 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: yes cause jaunty's didn't run | 22:08 |
| charlie-tca | we're trying, we're trying | 22:09 |
| davmor2 | very ;) | 22:09 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 22:10 |
| davmor2 | Right I'm off guys ttyl | 22:39 |
| komputes | Can http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com include a use case for USB installation build from usb-creator. This would test creating a key from the CD/Live Environment + Test if the bootable USB disk environment has any bugs/issues. | 22:49 |
| komputes | fader_: ^ do you have access to add test cases? | 22:50 |
| fader_ | komputes: No... I think you need to talk to ara to get testcases added | 22:51 |
| fader_ | I don't have access to do it | 22:51 |
| komputes | fader_: will send her an email | 22:51 |
| komputes | thx | 22:51 |
| xtjacob | what is the best way to download the Ubuntu 10.04 iso? | 22:51 |
| komputes | xtjacob: cdimage.ubuntu.com | 22:52 |
| xtjacob | i mean program wise like direct link, jigdo, etc. | 22:52 |
| komputes | xtjacob: if you're downloading the daily iso on a regular basis, I think this can help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RsyncCdImage | 22:53 |
| komputes | xtjacob: heard jigdo was very good, but never used it myself | 22:53 |
| xtjacob | komputes: I'm using jigdo right now | 22:55 |
| xtjacob | I hope it works, seems to be having a lot of 404 erroes | 22:57 |
| moustafa | fader_, davmor2: Good evening! | 22:57 |
| fader_ | moustafa: ciao | 22:57 |
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