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| dhillon-v10 | newz2000: hi :) | 21:27 |
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| newz2000 | hi dhillon-v10 | 21:27 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, finally got in touch with you, how are you? | 21:28 |
| newz2000 | good, how are you today? | 21:28 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, not bad, I was waiting to get in touch with you because you told me to see you here for Ubuntu website editors and Ubuntu Start page teams | 21:29 |
| newz2000 | ah, I know who you are now. :-) | 21:29 |
| newz2000 | I'm sorry for the delay, I was in a meeting in London last week and on holiday the week before. | 21:30 |
| newz2000 | I'm still not quite caught up | 21:30 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, sorry about that :) I didn't know how else to introduce myself | 21:30 |
| newz2000 | No need to be sorry | 21:30 |
| newz2000 | So you want to get involved, eh? | 21:30 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, yup :) This is the first time I get a chance to show my skills in web designing :) | 21:33 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: what did you ahve in mind? | 21:33 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, please elaborate on that one, I know a lot of web languages: HTML, Java, CSS, PHP, and SQL I am learning django | 21:35 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: in what way did you want to contribute, did you have something in mind? | 21:35 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, I see that Ubuntu website sometimes for searches takes too long while performing the query (I used firebug for that) so I want to, if I can provide an optimization algorithm that makes the searches faster :) | 21:36 |
| newz2000 | wow, that's very specific! You're talking about the search box at the top of the page on ubuntu.com? | 21:37 |
| dhillon-v10 | yah that and also in the Ubuntu wiki :) | 21:37 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, since you are an expert in this field so I though you would be the best person to ask :) | 21:38 |
| newz2000 | Well, we currently use two different systems for these sites | 21:38 |
| newz2000 | www.ubuntu.com uses Google's Custom Site Search | 21:38 |
| newz2000 | And the wikis use the in-built search of Moin Moin, our wiki | 21:38 |
| newz2000 | wiki.ubuntu.com is a pretty massive site. | 21:39 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: do you have an idea on how to make them faster? | 21:39 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, alright the wiki query system needs some improvements because the searches are really slow, the javascript can be analyzed in a profiler and the "hot-spots" can thus be optimized to get better performance | 21:40 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, I mean the Moin Moin search part | 21:40 |
| newz2000 | right | 21:40 |
| newz2000 | I want to encourage your enthusiasm, but I'm not sure that throwing resources at this is the best way to improve things... | 21:41 |
| newz2000 | you see, we basically use a stock Moin, so you can contribute improvements upstream to the moin project | 21:41 |
| newz2000 | but I think that our plan is to implement a Google Search Appliance and use it to provide unified search to all of our sites | 21:41 |
| newz2000 | and that should be quite fast | 21:42 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, I see, okay so are there any bugs that I could fix here | 21:42 |
| newz2000 | There are a couple I can think of… let me ask you, do you like to do design or code development most? | 21:42 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, both :) they both involve thinking | 21:43 |
| dhillon-v10 | design will be a better one, I am a bit lazy | 21:44 |
| newz2000 | ok | 21:44 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, yay!!! | 21:44 |
| newz2000 | There is a project about to start to do work on kubuntu.org, does this sound like something you may be interested in? | 21:45 |
| dhillon-v10 | sure, is it project timelord | 21:45 |
| dhillon-v10 | * under project timelord | 21:45 |
| newz2000 | and likewise the fridge.ubuntu.com site needs someone to give it a lot of TLC | 21:45 |
| newz2000 | project timelord? I've not heard of that | 21:45 |
| newz2000 | oh, no, not part of timelord | 21:46 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, its Kubuntu's improvement plan, they are doing almost everything over, I write docs. for them | 21:46 |
| newz2000 | ah, didn't know that | 21:46 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, alright :) | 21:46 |
| newz2000 | There is a guy from the community, Ofir is his name | 21:46 |
| newz2000 | he's been contacting me this week and last | 21:46 |
| newz2000 | he is workign with Drupal | 21:46 |
| newz2000 | he wants to improve the site and especially the download page | 21:46 |
| dhillon-v10 | drupal is awesome :) | 21:47 |
| newz2000 | We have some very tight constraints to work with (i.e. security constraints) | 21:47 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: what part of the world are you in? | 21:47 |
| dhillon-v10 | I live in Orlando, Florida USA | 21:47 |
| newz2000 | oh, nice. I used to live near there (Sarasota area). I'm in Iowa now w/ 14" of snow wishing I was nearer to you. :-) | 21:48 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, its nice right now, but it will rain soon :) | 21:48 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, so do I meet the qualifications for Ubuntu website editors team or the start page team may be? | 21:49 |
| newz2000 | I don't think joining those teams on launchpad is going to be beneficial to you | 21:49 |
| newz2000 | they're just administrivia and will get you a lot of email | 21:49 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: are you on the web presence team mailing list? If so, that's the best place. | 21:50 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, that's also one of the things I would like to have, they look good on your profile even though I will be working with you :) | 21:50 |
| newz2000 | ok, on Friday I'll be revamping the teams and I'll see if it makes sense to put you on there at that time. I have your emails so will be able to remember to do that... | 21:51 |
| newz2000 | so about you contributing, | 21:51 |
| newz2000 | I can help get you in touch with the Kubuntu team members, where you'd be working with them… or | 21:51 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, you are my new hero yay!! | 21:51 |
| newz2000 | I can get you in touch with the fridge team which aiui has no one working on a design project and desperately want help, or | 21:51 |
| newz2000 | I can ask you to wait until the spring when we'll be doing count down banners and etc again | 21:52 |
| newz2000 | which would you like? | 21:52 |
| newz2000 | or, | 21:52 |
| dhillon-v10 | alright, I would like to get started now, which one do you think is the best one | 21:52 |
| newz2000 | http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ team wants a theme for their planet planet site that matches the wiki | 21:52 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, I am not too artistic so I guess I can help out aiui on fridge | 21:53 |
| newz2000 | aiui = as I understand it | 21:54 |
| newz2000 | you'd be the only one on the fridge | 21:54 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, ahh I learned a new abbreviation :) alright so what would I have to do on fridge | 21:54 |
| newz2000 | create a new design for a news site, implement it in drupal | 21:55 |
| newz2000 | I can point you at some work that's been done in planning | 21:55 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/FridgeTheme | 21:55 |
| dhillon-v10 | sounds really interesting, I am a student so I get a lot of school work as well, are there strict time limits on designing stuff | 21:56 |
| newz2000 | no | 21:56 |
| newz2000 | that one is a big project though | 21:56 |
| GreySim | You don't really need art skills if you're just matching/porting themes...slice and dice the existing one and reassemble it. | 21:56 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: if you want to start small, an easier task may be to port the wiki theme to planet planet for cloud.ubuntu.com | 21:56 |
| newz2000 | that would be all html/css work | 21:56 |
| dhillon-v10 | that should be easy, sorry but can you please tell me what planet planet is (probably a website) | 21:58 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: planet planet is a blog aggregator tool. It grabs RSS feeds every hour or so and generates a static website from them | 21:58 |
| newz2000 | it uses a symplistic python based template system | 21:58 |
| newz2000 | www.planetplanet.org | 21:59 |
| dhillon-v10 | alright, porting the theme should be easy and I'll get started sometime after I get some sleep :) | 21:59 |
| newz2000 | ok, awesome | 21:59 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: here's what I would do... | 21:59 |
| newz2000 | download the planet planet source and get it working on your PC | 21:59 |
| newz2000 | then start hacking on the theme | 21:59 |
| newz2000 | I'd basically do an exact port | 22:00 |
| newz2000 | then we can show it to the cloud team, and they'll probably want you to do a couple tweaks to make it more "cloud-ish" | 22:00 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, one question: the website you linked out to has a very simple layout would you like the same thing as a draft | 22:00 |
| newz2000 | I'd say it's a great starting point | 22:01 |
| newz2000 | Oh | 22:01 |
| newz2000 | planet.ubuntu.com already has the base theme made... | 22:01 |
| newz2000 | let me get you the source to that and then you can just customize that | 22:01 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, I wrote a script a little while ago to obtain all the CSS and javascripts from a website, so that would be very helpful here with firebug :) | 22:02 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: ok, I have a theme for you, you can use it as a basis. Obviously, refrences to planet.ubuntu.com need to be replaced with cloud.ubuntu.com and may want to do some minimal branding to make it cloud-like. | 22:05 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: just emailed it | 22:06 |
| newz2000 | I know the cloud guys would be exstatic to have a nicer looking theme | 22:07 |
| dhillon-v10 | alright, so let me summarize all the steps: 1. get the source you emailed me 2. make it look like planet planet theme you showed me and do some edit 3. change some of the CSS to accomplish that | 22:07 |
| dhillon-v10 | is that all of it | 22:07 |
| newz2000 | yeah, this should be pretty easy… regardign step 2, | 22:08 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, wait how do you know my email? | 22:08 |
| newz2000 | You emailed me last week | 22:08 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, ahh :) | 22:08 |
| dhillon-v10 | sorry about that, I didn't drink coffee this afternoon | 22:08 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: but don't make this theme look like planetplanet.org, instead alter it only slightly from planet.ubuntu.com in order to make it have a cloud emphasis | 22:08 |
| dhillon-v10 | newz2000, alright so more like this: http://sd.ubuntu-us.org/ | 22:09 |
| dhillon-v10 | and cloud stuff added | 22:09 |
| newz2000 | dhillon-v10: if you want it to look like that, sure… I'd borrow the HTML and CSS from ubuntu.com's ubuntu09 theme | 22:10 |
| newz2000 | but you can keep it looking like planet.ubuntu.com if you like | 22:10 |
| newz2000 | in that tgz file look for a file called test.html, I think it's your theme | 22:11 |
| dhillon-v10 | alright, off to sleep nice talking to you and I'll get this done by Friday if that's okay with you | 22:11 |
| newz2000 | that is fine | 22:11 |
| dhillon-v10 | bye | 22:11 |
| newz2000 | bye | 22:11 |
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