[00:05] <zutme> Is there any way to get bash completion when I use sudo. For example if I type "apti" it expands to aptitude, but if I type "sudo apti" it won't expand to aptitude.
[01:22] <Venim>  hey guys anyone know how to fix the lack of screensaver?
[01:22] <Venim> it seems that xubuntu won't recoginze the settings in apps -> settings
[02:27] <zombi> hi
[03:16] <crazygir> any wacom users around? I'm reading that 9.04 has support for wacoms out of the box, though I haven't had such luck. is there any specific confugration needed?
[03:45] <billy-buntu> < downloading updates for 9.10..."this can take some time"
[03:45] <billy-buntu> not wrong!
[03:46] <billy-buntu> I"m updating xubuntu on usb flash.
[03:47] <billy-buntu> my brother printer isn't printing.  I downloaded the driver from brother website (for 9.04) but that didn't work on 9.10.
[03:47] <billy-buntu> the brother cups package for 9.10 didn't work either.
[03:48] <billy-buntu> basically,  xubuntu 9.10 isn't printing on my brother dcp115c
[03:48] <billy-buntu> is there a bug in cups on 9.10?  must be, because it worked in 9.04.
[03:50] <billy-buntu> hopefully, the updates fix this problem..
[03:50] <billy-buntu> how's Xu 9.10 working for you?
[03:51] <billy-buntu> problem 2:  Xubuntu failed to save a 3.4g file to my 8g usb drive.
[03:52] <billy-buntu> anyone here or am I rambling to myself ?
[03:54] <billy-buntu> I run xubuntu 9.10 on 8g usb drive...it failed to download 3.4g file to my other 8g flash drive.
[03:55] <billy-buntu> It seems that xubuntu security is very strict and it blocks read/write access to partitions
[03:55] <billy-buntu> mounting and allowing read/write access is difficult.
[03:56] <billy-buntu> I would like to over-ride xubuntu security so I have full access to read & write to my partitions and usb drives.
[03:56] <Jaff0> How large is your USB? I am reading up on doing exactly that right now.  so far it looks like I need a USB flash > 2GB to get it to work. :(
[03:57] <billy-buntu> I'd reccomend 4 g or higher.
[03:57] <billy-buntu> I have 8g drives
[03:58] <billy-buntu> actually it runs quite well on usb, expect the problems I mentioned above
[03:58] <billy-buntu> *except the problems above
[03:58] <Jaff0> I'm digging through my desk for a flash drive big enough. Only have a 1gb on hand so far
[03:59] <billy-buntu> I think that's too small...because you will need to download updates, and applications so you'll need more space.
[03:59] <Jaff0> yup
[04:00] <billy-buntu> I used "create usb startup disk" to install xubuntu on usb.. it will create a casper-rw file for saving changes..you'll need more than 1g for updates
[04:01] <billy-buntu> I have 4g casper-rw file and I formatted it to ext3 file system.
[04:02] <billy-buntu> the casper file is like a mini partition that exists on the fat32 file system on your usb drive.
[04:02] <billy-buntu> it's for saving changes..you'll need that for updates and saving changes.
[04:04] <billy-buntu> my usb transfers data at 15mB/sec and writes at 5MB/sec
[04:05] <billy-buntu> xubuntu 9.10 runs faster than ubuntu studio 9.10
[04:06] <billy-buntu> note, when you update xubuntu it can take a long time...like hours
[04:06] <billy-buntu> on usb..
[04:07] <billy-buntu> there's approx. 100 updates to download.
[04:07] <billy-buntu> downloading is fast, but the  unpacking and installation takes a while.
[04:08] <billy-buntu> and it can lock the system, it''s very cpu intensive.
[04:15] <billy-buntu> you can get cheap flash drives on ebay.. $14 for 8gig
[04:16] <billy-buntu> cheap prices from asia.
[04:17] <billy-buntu> I'd like to test a solid state drive (SSD).
[04:18] <billy-buntu> I'd like to BUY one!
[04:18] <billy-buntu> they're like a super fast large flash drive.
[04:21] <billy-buntu> video of solid state drives..check it out..
[04:21] <billy-buntu> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs
[04:23] <billy-buntu> is your printer working ok in xubuntu 9.10 ?
[04:29] <j1mc> http://yfrog.com/17screenshotsgp
[04:29] <j1mc> compare memory usage of firefox to google chrome beta on xubuntu 9.10
[04:29] <j1mc> all new sessions... opening the same sites for the same periods of time
[04:35] <billy-buntu> what did it mean by 'writable memory'  is that free memory?
[04:36] <billy-buntu> firefox has the most 'writable memory' is that good or bad?
[04:36] <j1mc> that is how much writable memory it is using
[04:36] <billy-buntu> ok..
[04:36] <j1mc> so a smaller amount is better
[04:38] <billy-buntu> my updates are still installing...it's doing CUPS now..
[04:39] <billy-buntu> hopefully the updates fix my xubuntu problems.
[04:40] <billy-buntu> prabably take a 2 or 3 hours to finish
[04:40] <billy-buntu> this is the longest updates I've seen
[04:43] <billy-buntu> I was running xubuntu on usb with qemulator running a second operating system on the usb.
[04:45] <billy-buntu> yeah...xubuntu is pretty awesome...
[04:45] <billy-buntu> just gotta fix those little problems
[04:45] <billy-buntu> I test linux day & night..
[04:47] <billy-buntu> I'm using puppy linux & xchat right now..while I'm waiting for updates on xubuntu.
[04:49] <billy-buntu> I've tested xubuntu 9.04 and 9.10 on usb..
[04:49] <billy-buntu> <if you have any questions about that, just ask
[04:54] <billy-buntu> when you install xubuntu to usb, it doesn't ask for a username & password during installation
[04:55] <billy-buntu> this causes some problems down the track
[04:55] <billy-buntu> I had to set up a new session, user name & password after I rebooted
[04:57] <genii> billy-buntu: If you used some method of install which basically just copied the casper image over and twiddled with boot setting to accomodate from usb instead of from cd, it won't of course prompt for password. Since the pasword should be what the livecd has (none)
[04:58] <genii> (a lot of the instructions on pendrivelinux site for example use this type of method)
[04:59] <billy-buntu> yes.I've been on the pendrive linux site : )
[04:59] <billy-buntu> the problem I had,  xubuntu woudn't let me log-in because the usb installer failed to setup a username & password
[05:00] <billy-buntu> this happened after I updated from the update manager.
[05:01] <billy-buntu> the log-in problem happened after i updated.  I mean
[05:02] <billy-buntu> anyway,  I re-installed, and setup a new user/name & password before I updated this time.
[05:02] <billy-buntu> username & password are stored in casper-rw file.
[05:03] <billy-buntu> does all this make sense?!!??!!
[05:03] <billy-buntu> sorry if I'm confusing you
[05:03] <billy-buntu> when I finish updating, hopefully it will allow me to log in next time
[05:08] <billy-buntu> there's always a little gramlin causing problems!
[05:09] <billy-buntu> like I said before,  9.10 won't recognize my brother printer..even though I installed the driver and brother cups extra packages
[05:10] <billy-buntu> Also, the brother website doesn't have install instructions for ubuntu 9.10
[05:10] <billy-buntu> (they do for 9.04)
[08:48] <ferko_> hi all
[09:54] <balsaq> man i messed up now...terminal thinks i am using the wrong password...
[09:54] <balsaq> wtf do i do now
[09:54] <psycho_oreos> using the wrong password?
[09:54] <balsaq> thats what terminal says
[09:54] <Sysi> what you're trying to do?
[09:55] <balsaq> yet i use it to get on here
[09:55] <balsaq> i am not getting updates on this new OS i am trying...so i went to terminal and typed sudo update
[09:55] <Sysi> there isn't such command
[09:56] <balsaq> so it wants a password
[09:56] <Sysi> open new terminal?
[09:56] <balsaq> ok
[09:56] <psycho_oreos> yes it will want a password for your user account but there's no binary named update
[09:57] <balsaq> i am more concerned about it saying i use the wrong password than me using an incorrect command
[09:57] <psycho_oreos> you're missing extra words :p you probably meant sudo aptitude upgrade
[09:57] <balsaq> ok teminal open
[09:57] <psycho_oreos> sudo -i
[09:57] <Sysi> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:57] <psycho_oreos> input correct password and if that returns you # instead of $ prompt, you have correct password :p
[09:58] <balsaq> says try again
[09:58] <balsaq> i am in trouble now
[09:59] <Billy-buntu> How long does the update manager take on karmic?
[09:59] <balsaq> terminal doesn't know me
[09:59] <psycho_oreos> balsaq, after entering sudo -i ?
[10:00] <balsaq> well after that still wants password
[10:00] <balsaq> says try again
[10:00] <balsaq> always
[10:01] <balsaq> never have this issue on xubuntu
[10:01] <Billy-buntu> is your caplock off ?
[10:01] <balsaq> yup
[10:02] <balsaq> i used the dadgum password to get here to begin with
[10:02] <Billy-buntu> sorry for my ignorance, but what does -i do?
[10:03] <balsaq> asks for password
[10:03] <psycho_oreos> prompts you root terminal
[10:03] <psycho_oreos> no
[10:03] <psycho_oreos> sudo does
[10:03] <balsaq> 1st wants password
[10:03] <balsaq> if you mean sudo -i
[10:03] <Billy-buntu> yes, what's the -i do?
[10:03] <balsaq> then wants password after i type sudo -i
[10:04] <Billy-buntu> don't you just type sudo mousepad /pathtofile/file or whatever application you want
[10:04] <psycho_oreos> it prompts you a root terminal
[10:05] <Billy-buntu> I've never bothered with -i
[10:05] <psycho_oreos> balsaq, yes it does but if you enter the correct password you will get root terminal
[10:05] <Billy-buntu> yes, but why do you need -i ?
[10:05] <balsaq> well i think i know it...i used to get on here
[10:05] <balsaq> i don't know someone suggested i try it
[10:06] <Billy-buntu> I've never used -i
[10:06] <balsaq> i am trying a new distro...prolly has something in it i don't know about yet
[10:06] <Billy-buntu> don't put -i ...just sudo application
[10:06] <psycho_oreos> Billy-buntu, I use it because I get annoying typing sudo all the time
[10:07] <balsaq> well it doesn't matter cause it doesn't recognize my password
[10:07] <psycho_oreos> balsaq, yes because you said sudo update doesn't work
[10:07] <balsaq> nothing matters till i get the password issue fixed
[10:07] <psycho_oreos> balsaq, maybe your own user account password has been changed? or did you log yourself in as another user that you have added yourself?
[10:08] <balsaq> i will log out and back on...
[10:08] <balsaq> i think i may know now
[10:08] <balsaq> brb...may have to use the computer name instead of my old nick
[10:08] <Billy-buntu> Has anyone updated karmic with the latest security updates?
[10:08] <balsaq> cause this isn't my xubuntu computer
[10:09] <balsaq> thanks brb
[10:09] <Billy-buntu> security updates is taking like 5 hours or more..is that normal ?
[10:10] <Sysi> slow internet and not installed updates before?
[10:10] <Billy-buntu> I have 5 mbs internet so it downloads fast, but the updates are slow to unpack, configure and install.
[10:11] <Billy-buntu> it's taken about 5 hours and only half done..
[10:11] <Billy-buntu> how long should it take to install 100 updates?
[10:12] <Billy-buntu> is this a cruel joke by canonical?
[10:12] <Billy-buntu> OR..maybe it's my bios settings?
[10:13] <fabrizio> ok its me balsaq....maybe i have to use the name of my computer to make terminal work...what is that update commang again Sysi?
[10:13] <fabrizio> on this computer my name is fabrizio....
[10:13] <Sysi> sudo apt-get update
[10:13] <fabrizio> ok one moment thanks
[10:13] <Sysi> and after that sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:14] <fabrizio> wow i am deep here...
[10:16] <Billy-buntu> will I lose the updates I have installed if I abort the update process..
[10:16] <Sysi> no, but you shouldn't stop it
[10:16] <Sysi> it brokes apt
[10:17] <Sysi> it's easy to fix but still
[10:17] <Sysi> or i thinkt that it depends
[10:18] <Billy-buntu> have you tried the update manager with karmic?
[10:18] <Billy-buntu> there's about 127 updates available.
[10:18] <Billy-buntu> how long should it take?
[10:18] <Sysi> it varies
[10:18] <Sysi> you don't need to install all at the same time
[10:20] <Billy-buntu> I selected the lot..
[10:20] <Billy-buntu> I set my bios setting to "top performance"  hoping it would speed the operating system.
[10:21] <Billy-buntu> looks like it doesn't help the update process :(
[10:21] <Sysi> if i have very lots of updates i let them to install over night
[10:21] <Billy-buntu> ok.
[10:23] <Billy-buntu> Sysi, are you running 9.10?
[10:24] <Sysi> in one machine yes
[10:25] <Billy-buntu> ok. Have you read the "Details" windows in the update manager while it updates?
[10:26] <Billy-buntu> it says:  unpacking....
[10:26] <Billy-buntu> preparing....
[10:27] <Billy-buntu> should it say "done" when it installs ?
[10:27] <fabrizio> i figured it out..this crazy new OS itried makes me type in root as my username on the 1st login screen, then my password works and i got the updates using your command Sysi
[10:27] <fabrizio> but that mean if i go in a root...my name in here will also be root...weird
[10:27] <Sysi> you're not using it as root
[10:28] <Sysi> but you can
[10:28] <fabrizio> no i went out and back in as fabrizio now
[10:28] <fabrizio> bu that is strange and noone answers questions in the channel called pclinuxos
[10:29] <fabrizio> this on is in kde...
[10:29] <Billy-buntu> do you have pclinuxos on your system?
[10:30] <Billy-buntu> isn't that a different operating system, not ubuntu?
[10:30] <fabrizio> i have it on this particular computer yes...
[10:30] <Sysi> then get some distribution what have good community?
[10:30] <Billy-buntu> haha..yes I've experienced that..
[10:30] <fabrizio> i have my xubuntu computer next too me
[10:30] <fabrizio> i put eachOS i try on its own computer
[10:31] <Billy-buntu> debian has an active room I was there recently
[10:31] <Billy-buntu> ubuntu is popular
[10:31] <Sysi> fedora ♥
[10:31] <Sysi> i have in this netbook
[10:32] <Sysi> specified kernel for eees, etc
[10:32] <fabrizio> i like that one...i burned it on a cd
[10:32] <Billy-buntu> you in jtaly fabrizio?
[10:32] <Billy-buntu> *italy
[10:32] <fabrizio> no eastern USA
[10:32] <Billy-buntu> ok.
[10:33] <fabrizio> in am actually balsag...but i named this computer fabrizio and it made me use it to get in here
[10:33] <fabrizio> balsaq
[10:33] <Sysi> i named my desktop for my nick
[10:33] <Billy-buntu> if you need more help with xubuntu, just go to ubuntu forums!
[10:34] <Sysi> time to do maths →
[10:34] <Billy-buntu> I think xubuntu is just ubuntu with xfce desktop I think
[10:34] <fabrizio> i do well with xubuntu...it is my personal favorite, just fooling around with this one
[10:34] <Sysi> Billy-buntu: that's wah it is
[10:34] <Sysi> only some different programs
[10:35] <Billy-buntu> yes
[10:35] <fabrizio> this pclinuxos had about 50 wallpapers in it, some of the most beautiful i have seen, built right in
[10:36] <Billy-buntu> I perfer a dark wall paper that's not bright on the eyes.
[10:36] <fabrizio> where are you from Billy-buntu?
[10:37] <Billy-buntu> australia
[10:37] <fabrizio> ahhh land of _Techie_
[10:37] <Billy-buntu> good I'm not the only one ;)
[10:38] <fabrizio>  i wasn't getting the update automatically on this distro...so i figured i had better do it in terminal
[10:39] <Billy-buntu> why don't you use update manager from the menu?
[10:39] <Billy-buntu> I'm using it now..
[10:39] <Billy-buntu> look in the system menu
[10:40] <fabrizio> hmmm...new distro too me, maybe i will look through it next time-don't see it yet in this distro
[10:40] <Billy-buntu> 9.10?
[10:40] <fabrizio> but it worked fast in terminal
[10:40] <fabrizio> had to log out, log back in using root as my username..same password and BAM done?
[10:41] <fabrizio> who knew...
[10:41] <fabrizio> prolly something i di wrong on the install
[10:41] <Billy-buntu> yes I had a similar problem, except i couldn't log-in.. had to re-install and set a new session, username & pass.
[10:42] <fabrizio> so if i ever want to do terminal as i am on the internet i will look like my nick on here is root
[10:43] <fabrizio> and now that i think of it...it prolly won't allow it because someone on here prolly registered that nick already
[10:43] <Billy-buntu> hehe.
[10:44] <fabrizio> so i am porked and noone will answer me in pclinuxos...hahahah
[10:44] <Billy-buntu> is pclinuxos based on ubuntu?
[10:45] <Billy-buntu> debian?
[10:45] <fabrizio> no clue
[10:45] <fabrizio> its kde
[10:45] <Billy-buntu> kde is the desktop environment
[10:45] <fabrizio> yes
[10:46] <fabrizio> i think it is a copy of an old kubuntu with some modifications...not sure
[10:46] <fabrizio> the windows look like a windows OS
[10:46] <Billy-buntu> if so,  just go to ubuntu room and ask questions
[10:46] <Billy-buntu> it should behave similar to ubuntu..
[10:46] <fabrizio> i tried kubuntu and they seemed offended that i was on pclinuxos
[10:46] <Billy-buntu> haha..
[10:47] <fabrizio> i just burned that one to cd....haven't used it yet, has a new plasma desktop
[10:47] <Billy-buntu> my slax distro has kde..looks nice.
[10:48] <Billy-buntu> my update is still working so I'll let it continue..
[10:49] <fabrizio> this one looks great but the support ain't there....here, i get fabulous support from Sysi, _Techie_, _Pete_, knome and others
[10:51] <fabrizio> bbl...thanks all
[10:53] <Billy-buntu> I looked up PCLinuxOS...looks like it's based on RPM, mandrake/mandriva
[10:53] <Billy-buntu> maybe visit those rooms for advice..
[11:07] <crawler> would someone please help me set up a working VNC server?  i can connect, but get only a grey screen and X cursor.  i have installed tightvncserver.  also, is there an easy configuration for this as in Ubuntu's Remote Desktop Preferences?
[11:33] <crawler> looks like i was using a bum server (tightvncserver).  installed x11vnc and all is well :-)
[14:28] <Kretchfoop> i'm having some resolution issues...
[14:28] <Kretchfoop> i've roughly fixed it, but now every time i start a warning comes up that 'ubuntu' is running in low graphics mode
[14:32] <likemindead> What kind of graphics card, Kretchfoop?
[14:32] <Kretchfoop> Trident Microsystems Cyberblade XPAil (rev 82) is the VGA controller
[14:34] <Kretchfoop> ctrl-alt-F7 is normally switch back to GUI isn't it? mines gone to F9 for some reason...
[14:34] <likemindead> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1109443
[14:34] <likemindead> Might help.
[14:35] <Kretchfoop> this is refering to xorg.conf?
[14:37] <likemindead> Correct.
[14:38] <Kretchfoop> there was no file there, so i made my own with only the stuff for resolution.
[14:38] <Kretchfoop> which i just noticed there is a typo in
[14:38] <Kretchfoop> one sec...
[14:40] <likemindead> Yes, you'll have to create a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf to supplement your current Xorg settings.
[14:40] <likemindead> It's a bit odd the way Xorg works nowadays...
[14:40] <likemindead> !xorg
[14:42] <Kretchfoop> yeah, i did that with a bunch of settings i found somewhere on the net. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1169675.html also has these same settings
[14:43] <Kretchfoop> and now it works, except that annoying message at boo
[14:43] <Kretchfoop> s/boo/boot
[14:44] <likemindead> I broke my Xubuntu 9.10 install on my ghetto old PIII laptop by trying to enable Compiz a couple of days ago. Creating a xorg.conf with a couple of settings sorted me back out. :D
[14:44] <likemindead> http://www.amarillolinux.com/mb/index.php?topic=675
[15:09] <rotmor> Hi, i'm planning to use Xubuntu as a router, I will be using SNMP for management. I want to use Access Control Lists to secure my network while still letting SNMP operate correctly in the network. But I have no experience with it, how can I set up ACLs rules in Xubuntu?
[15:10] <likemindead> Something like pfSense would be a much better solution, rotmor.
[15:11] <rotmor> likemindead, is it an alternative to using iptables?
[15:12] <likemindead> http://www.pfsense.com/
[15:13] <likemindead> It's about the best out there. Very powerful.
[15:13] <rotmor> likemindead, unfortunately i'm stuck with iptables, I cannot choose anything else
[15:13] <likemindead> Highly customizeable.
[15:24] <Kretchfoop> putting "//" in a config file will ignore them, right?
[15:25] <Sysi> i think "#" is used
[15:26] <Sysi> that means that it's ment to be comment
[15:58] <Billy-buntu> I installed updates to xubuntu 9.10 on usb flash, rebooted and it's not loading..what's up?
[15:59] <Billy-buntu> what's the default grub configuration for booting xubuntu on usb flash drive?
[16:02] <Sysi> you have full installation there?
[16:02] <Sysi> liveimage isn't installation
[16:07] <Billy-buntu> full installation made with the "usb startup disk creator"
[16:08] <Billy-buntu> I need to know the grub boot config for usb
[16:09] <Sysi> you mean that settings are saved? that's still not full installation
[16:09] <Billy-buntu> it's a full installation to a usb flash drive.
[16:09] <Billy-buntu> I just downloaded the security updates, now it won't boot.
[16:10] <Billy-buntu> in the grub-pc setup dialog, i checked sdb.
[16:10] <Sysi> where does it stop?
[16:10] <Billy-buntu> after the mouse appears on screen
[16:10] <Billy-buntu> screen goes blank and it says it can't find the root file system
[16:11] <Sysi> is grub on hd or on stick?
[16:16] <Billy-buntu> error message: "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[16:16] <Billy-buntu> it says "unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[16:16] <Billy-buntu> must be grub error...
[16:18] <Billy-buntu> It took about 8 hours to install the updates...now it won't boot at all.
[16:18] <Billy-buntu> problem after problem...
[16:19] <Billy-buntu> don't force me back to windows ...please..
[16:19] <Sysi> for me your system sounds so interesting that problems aren't that unexpectable
[16:19] <Billy-buntu> well, usb isn't your typical installation.
[16:20] <Billy-buntu> but...it 'should' work, since the xubuntu usb creator made it
[16:20] <Billy-buntu> inadequate instructions in the grub-pc config dialog..
[16:21] <Billy-buntu> I thought I selected the right check box..
[16:21] <Billy-buntu> maybe not..
[16:22] <Sysi> yhe usb-creator don't make normal installation
[16:26] <Sysi> if you want to make real installation, you need to run installer and set it to do installation on your stick
[16:28] <Billy-buntu> I didn't know it had a usb option.
[16:29] <Billy-buntu> that's why I used "create usb startup disk" from the system menu.
[16:29] <Billy-buntu> I just need the grub configuration for usb..
[16:32] <Billy-buntu> I wonder if supergrub tool will setup grub on the usb drive?
[16:32] <Billy-buntu> I have the ultimate boot CD with super grub. I'll try that.
[18:17] <Billy-buntu> xubuntu on my usb drive is not booting after I installed the updates.
[18:17] <Billy-buntu> the boot config is messed up i think
[18:18] <Billy-buntu> how can I re-install grub to usb?
[18:18] <Sysi> i'd think that liveusb:s aren't ment to be updated
[18:18] <Sysi> those aren't for permanen use
[18:18] <Billy-buntu> yeah..9.04 updated ok.
[18:19] <Sysi> oh, right
[18:19] <Billy-buntu> it's a "persistant" install which means it updates and saves changes to usb.
[18:20] <Billy-buntu> I want to re-install grub2 to usb
[18:20] <Billy-buntu> is there are grub2 gui tool?
[18:55] <neopablo> hi everybody! Just a question.. Im new to xubuntu, im a gentoo user. But for my powebook G4 i thought of giving xubuntu a try. After some issues, i succesfully installed xubuntu (Sorry for my english). But then i made a mistake
[18:55] <neopablo> the mistake was to add a debian http address to my source.list to install tuxcart, then some messages about new updates appeared and i did the update, and in the mid of the update i realized this was a debian address, not a xubuntu one
[18:56] <neopablo> the update finished with some errors, and now i cant start session
[18:56] <neopablo> is there any way to roll back the last update?
[18:57] <neopablo> the errors are dbus, hal and libc6 related
[18:57] <neopablo> it let me reinstall them, but nothing happens. The problem is when I start my powerbook, i get the image of the xfce mouse, and it remains there for a minute or so, and it restarts suddenly
[18:58] <neopablo> i tried to uninstall hal, dbus and libc6 but xubuntu complains about a LOT of essencial packages being uninstalled too, so i abort
[18:58] <neopablo> is there any way to uninstall the packages without uninstalling the dependencies?
[18:59] <neopablo> i dont know what to do next. In gentoo i would know how to solve this, but im new to apt-get, and the way xubuntu install packages and dependencies
[19:01] <neopablo> nobody?
[19:08] <neopablo> :s
[19:21] <neopablo> anybody?
[19:53] <dunix> neopablo, reinstall. it'll probably make your life easier
[19:58] <neopablo> hahaha! ok, thank you!!!
[20:13] <r0k3tm3n> is there anyone here?
[20:13] <charlie-tca> !anyone
[20:13] <anom01y> lol
[20:13] <Sysi> wow, haven't seen that before
[20:13] <r0k3tm3n> ok, srry, new to this
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Didn't mean to scare r0k3tm3n away
[21:37] <Pres-Gas> Its aliiiiiive!
[21:37] <Pres-Gas> I can now get on freenode
[22:09] <PopeJo> hey hey
[22:09] <PopeJo> just installed xubuntu karmic 64
[22:10] <PopeJo> but I can only start the desktop in rescue-mode
[22:10] <charlie-tca> :-(
[22:10] <PopeJo> otherwise the loginscreen just reappears and reappears, when trying to log in
[22:10] <PopeJo> is it a common problem?
[22:11]  * PopeJo hopes
[22:11] <PopeJo> +I got no sound :/
[22:11] <PopeJo> <- tripple boot. ubuntu hary heron 32 and win XP run fine
[22:12] <PopeJo> kk, will browse the wikis
[22:12] <charlie-tca> When logging in, use the mouse after the enter password box appears to click on XFCE SESSION at the bottom of the screen
[22:12] <PopeJo> if someone has some hints and links for me, just PM or highlight me :)
[22:12] <PopeJo> yes, I got 2  XFCE SESSION  ther and on xterm
[22:13] <PopeJo> only the xterm start
[22:13] <PopeJo> s
[22:13] <PopeJo> the other two XFCE SESSIONs just loop back to the login
[22:13] <charlie-tca> Did you upgrade or install new?
[22:13] <PopeJo> install new
[22:14] <PopeJo> os[Linux 2.6.31-16-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "karmic" 9.10] cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) Processor LE-1620 (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.40GHz] mem[Physical: 1.9GB, 80.5% free] disk[Total: 1.4TB, 39.7% free] video[nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6100 nForce 405]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
[22:15] <charlie-tca> Yup
[22:17] <charlie-tca> You will need to use Ctrl+Alt+F2 and log in to the tty, rm ~/.cache, rm ~/.config, exit, then Alt+F7 back to gdm, select xfce session, login, that should
[22:17] <charlie-tca> fix the extra session and looping
[22:18] <PopeJo> will try, thx
[22:18] <charlie-tca> I am testing lucid lynx right now and having a few issues myself
[22:31] <PopeJo> yupp, thx. that helped :D
[22:34] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[22:52] <PopeJo> aaand the sound works too. somehow the line was muted in the alsa mixer.
[22:52] <PopeJo> those were easy tasks ^^
[22:53] <PopeJo> wish you the same luck in troubleshooting :)
[22:53] <PopeJo> gn8
[22:53] <charlie-tca> It almost always starts muted after installation
[22:53] <charlie-tca> mine will be much harder, like, months