[00:07] <dashcloud> hi, I'm trying to follow the upgrade procedure, and on step 7 (restore the database) it keeps failing- ERROR: The specified backup file cannot be read.
[00:07] <dashcloud> Invalid backup filename, stopped at /usr/share/mythtv/mythconverg_restore.pl line 831.
[00:08] <mrand> dashcloud: I don't know if I'll have enough time to help, but what command line are you using?
[00:09] <dashcloud> /usr/share/mythtv/mythconverg_restore.pl --verbose --directory /var/lib/mythtv/db_backups/ --filename mythconverg-1214-20091129174054.sql.gz
[00:10] <mrand> And is that file in that directory?
[00:11] <dashcloud> yes
[00:21] <mrand> dashcloud: I don't have any reason to suspect the version you are using is bad or wrong, but you might grab the latest one... I think yours may be a tad old.  What are the permissions on that mythconverg file?
[00:22] <dashcloud> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
[00:26] <mrand> Those are strange permissions.  Perhaps chown and grp to mythtv?
[00:26] <mrand> sorry, gotta run.  good luck!
[02:41] <bllz> Is there any documentation for recording tv shows with a Motorola DTA 100?
[02:41] <bllz> I have a PVR150 whith a coax-in that could record the output from the DTA
[02:41] <bllz> but i was wondering if anybody has figured out the IRblaster situation yet
[02:43] <bllz> lol or is everybody AFK?
[02:51] <dashcloud> bllz: I would check the forums, and the mythtv wiki & user mailing list- other than that, I can't help you
[02:56] <bllz> dashcloud, thanks!  I checked those already
[04:18] <bllz> lol only one person seeding mythbuntu? wow
[08:54] <aasgkk> hello
[08:59] <aasgkk> can anybody help me with my problem?  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f1e63f3ba
[17:33] <rhpot1991> aasgkk: what exactly is your problem?
[17:44] <aasgkk> that i doesn't know the problem ;)     whating tv in mythtv works not good.. very unstable..
[17:45] <aasgkk> sometimes mythbackend use permanently 100% cpu
[17:47] <aasgkk> channelswitching is not possible
[17:47] <aasgkk> only sky select works fine ;)
[17:51] <rhpot1991> you have a whole lot of these in your frontend log:
[17:51] <rhpot1991> #
[17:51] <rhpot1991> 2009-12-10 09:40:16.175 [mpeg2video @ 0x58c56c0]ac-tex damaged at 33 29
[17:51] <rhpot1991> #
[17:51] <rhpot1991> 2009-12-10 09:40:16.175 [mpeg2video @ 0x58c56c0]00 motion_type at 8 11
[17:51] <rhpot1991> might be a bad recording, or your tuner is having issues
[17:52] <aasgkk> mhmm i think the cable-installation is the mainproblem.. i think it is 30 years old.. no good time for dvbc
[18:55] <wilberfan> I want to have a working frontend and backend AND a gnome or xfce ubuntu 9.10 system...  Is it better to install mythbuntu first then ADD gnome, etc...or get Ubuntu up and running, then ADD mythtv?
[18:57] <darthanubis> get Ubuntu up and running, then ADD mythtv
[18:58] <wilberfan> excellent...
[18:58] <wilberfan> thanks!  =]
[19:00] <bllz> Hi, I have comcast digital cable, and i'll be setting up a PVR150 along with an IR blaster.  My question is, will the on-demand content still be available?  My understanding is that the stock comcast remote sends a "0" followed by an "enter" command to access the on-demand menu, so it *should* work, right?
[19:03] <bllz> Also, I don't have a monitor (other than my TV, obviously)  can somebody recommend a VNC client for windows that will work well with the default vnc client in mythbuntu?  I'm hoping to do all the configuration that way
[19:04] <rhpot1991> bllz: well in theory you should be able to make it work, its only IR commands
[19:05] <bllz> rhpot1991:  that's what I figured, but in my experience it's always good to ask ahead of time =)
[19:05] <bllz> i have another question though
[19:06] <rhpot1991> I think I used tightvnc in the past on windows, its been a while
[19:06] <bllz> I've never used an IR blaster/set-top-box combination before.  Won't there be a problem with the on-screen display from the STB showing up when I change channels in myth?
[19:06] <bllz> tightvnc.  I'll look into that, thanks
[19:07] <rhpot1991> bllz: you will be recording whatever is on screen
[19:07] <rhpot1991> unless you have 2 of them, you will be recording what you are watching
[19:07] <bllz> right, that's what i assumed, but is there any workaround?
[19:07] <rhpot1991> work around for what, watching what you record?
[19:07] <bllz> no no
[19:08] <bllz> I'm worried that when I change channels through myth, the OSD from the STB will appear and either a) look hideous with the OSD from myth or b)  end up in my recordings
[19:08] <bllz> since it's on screen
[19:08] <bllz> so i'm wondering if anything can be done to resolve that
[19:08] <rhpot1991> bllz: nothing with on demand
[19:08] <rhpot1991> you need to use their stb to record that
[19:09] <rhpot1991> it will go away after a few seconds though
[19:09] <bllz> oh sorry, i wasn't clear.  I meant with TV in general as far as the OSD issue is concerned
[19:09] <bllz> not necessarily osd
[19:09] <bllz> *on-demand
[19:09] <bllz> damn... i'm having trouble talking today =)
[19:09] <Zinn> bllz: Please watch your language.
[19:10] <rhpot1991> it should tune and then the recording should start
[19:10] <rhpot1991> for intance I use firewire and by the time its ready to record the osd is off of the screen for me
[19:11] <rhpot1991> bllz: gotta run and do something if you have any other questions ask away and I'll answer them when I get back if no one else stepped in
[19:11] <bllz> sounds good, thankx
[19:17]  * bllzz bllz
[20:04] <mrand> rhpot1991: depending on his cable box, he might also be able to do channel changing via serial port.  My non-HD box provides for that, so that's what I use.  I've tested IR blasting and it works fine.  Well, on a PVR-USB2, not -150.
[20:05] <rhpot1991> mrand: yep, firewire may also be an option.  I assumed he has to IR blast but ya I shoulda tossed that out there
[20:05] <rhpot1991> looks like he is gone
[20:10] <mrand> yeah.
[21:01] <baggar11> would there be any problems running a 32bit host, connecting to a 64bit backend?
[21:01] <baggar11> 32bit host --> frontend
[21:03] <rhpot1991> baggar11: nope
[21:03] <baggar11> cool. thanks
[23:19] <bllz> why is there no 9.10 alt cd for mythbuntu?
[23:21] <mrand> bllz: it was very rarely used and the team was already stretched thin.
[23:22] <mrand> bllz: per your conversation earlier, if your STB has a serial port, you might be able to use that rather than IR blasting.  My older Time Warner cable box has it.
[23:22] <bllz> mrand: oh.  that's a shame.  i guess there's no way to set up an LVM after installing, is there?
[23:22] <bllz> mrand:  unfortunately it doesnt.  It's one of those motorola DCT700 models
[23:22] <bllz> they're smaller and only have IR
[23:23] <bllz> coax in/out
[23:24] <mrand> bummer.
[23:24] <bllz> yeah i agree
[23:24] <bllz> i also got a DTA just in case that's easier
[23:24] <mrand> set up LVM after installing?  uhh, not that I know of.  From a myth perspective, LVM's are needed with the introduction of storage groups.
[23:25] <bllz> mrand:  yeah I was just hoping to span a volume over two drives
[23:25] <bllz> but I guess that's not strictly necessary
[23:25] <mrand> DCT700?  Isn't that that old digital capable box?
[23:26] <mrand> Oh wait, no... it isn't an old thing.  I got excited for a minute... the one I'm think of can be modified to allow firewire output.
[23:26] <bllz> http://images.google.com/images?q=motorola%20dct700&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
[23:26] <bllz> yeah it definitely doesn't ahve firewire
[23:27] <mrand> I wonder if I can re-find what I'm thinking of.  It didn't come with firewire, but it could manually modified.
[23:28] <mrand> DCP501 is what I was thinking of.
[23:31] <bllz> and what could be done with that one?
[23:31] <bllz> you could change channels via firewire?
[23:33] <mrand> I assume so.  More importantly, you can use it as your tuner... capture via firewire.  But you have to modify it to do that.  R5000 style.
[23:33] <bllz> oh
[23:33] <bllz> well it's a moot point, since i don't have it lol
[23:34] <bllz> so i also got a DTA from comcast... which do you think will be easier to use? the DTA or the STB?
[23:35] <bllz> the dta connects to a separate IR receiver via a headphone-jack-looking plug (the same as my IR blaster for my PVR150) ... so i'm thinking I might be able to just use a double-male cable and avoid the whole IR quandry
[23:37] <mrand> Hmmm.... well, if you have both, I'd try to use both, to be honest.  I think people have gotten both to work.  But does the DTA work for encrypted channels? You may need the STB to get most of your channels.
[23:39] <bllz> yeah the DTA works for everythign except on-demand
[23:39] <rhpot1991> firewire sucks, but other than that :)
[23:40] <rhpot1991> and definitely wont work for on demand, they lock that down
[23:40] <rhpot1991> hdpvr + firewire tuning is the way to go
[23:41] <bllz> yeah so it seems
[23:41] <bllz> unfortunately I have neither =)
[23:41] <mrand> Do a really good theme for mythtv and you can the HDPVR!
[23:41] <mrand> can WIN the HDPVR
[23:42] <mrand> not sure where those three letters went.  They were in my head, but didn't come out my fingers.
[23:42] <bllz> haha I know nothing about graphic design
[23:42] <bllz> lol a la "i accidentally the whole thing"
[23:42] <mrand> It's just some XML.
[23:42] <bllz> which I know nothing about
[23:42] <bllz> *nothing* lol
[23:42] <bllz> i have a pvr150
[23:42] <bllz> lol
[23:43] <mrand> PVR150 won't help you with winning the theming competition
[23:43] <mrand> :-)
[23:43] <bllz> lol unfortunately
[23:43] <bllz> well... looks like either way i'm giving up on this lvm idea and i'm just going to get the mythbuntu live cd
[23:44] <bllz> so i should probably start with that
[23:44] <mrand> bllz: btw, I mistyped above.  I meant to say "LVM's are UNneeded with the introduction of storage groups"
[23:44] <bllz> mrand
[23:44] <bllz> oh
[23:44]  * mrand slows his fingers down a bit.
[23:44] <bllz> that changes everything lol
[23:44] <bllz> in that case, F**ck it
[23:44] <bllz> lol
[23:45] <mrand> heheheh
[23:45] <mrand> sorry for the misunderstanding.
[23:45] <bllz> i may be getting rid of that drive anyway
[23:45] <bllz> no, no worries
[23:45] <bllz> you've been very helpful
[23:45] <mrand> Glad to hear.
[23:45] <bllz> hey wait a minute...
[23:46] <bllz> >=)
[23:46] <bllz> i have an old laptop
[23:46] <bllz> and an external enclosure that could hold my loud/annoying drive
[23:46] <bllz> couldn't I set up some sort of secondary backend?
[23:46] <bllz> and use the storage group feature?
[23:46] <mrand> Yes.
[23:47] <bllz> well then
[23:47] <bllz> that's settled
[23:47] <bllz> i'll worry about that later, however
[23:48] <bllz> although real quick, mrand, I assume the laptop in question doesn't ahve to be excessively powerful to handle this kind of taks?
[23:48] <bllz> because it's rather old
[23:48] <bllz> in fact, it can't even boot a xubuntu livecd
[23:49] <mrand> bllz: nope.  It could be either a slave backend, or actually you could just use it as a remote filesystem.  Streaming media from a drive can't be too difficult for even the oldest of machines.
[23:49] <bllz> that's what I figured
[23:50] <bllz> would a slave backend have GUI?
[23:51] <bllz> and also, what protocol would I want to use for a remote filesystem? smb?
[23:54] <bllz> you there, mrand?
[23:54] <rhpot1991> depends what you are sharing
[23:54] <rhpot1991> mythtv will share most files itself
[23:54] <rhpot1991> music/photos/ISO files you will need smb or nfs
[23:55] <mrand> bllz: sorry, was interrupted.  slave backend doesn't have a frontend gui, but it might require a gui just to set the thing up.
[23:56] <mrand> on a very weak machine, I don't know that there is a reason to run it as a slave backend though, what do you think rhpot1991.
[23:56] <mrand> Maybe just use it as a smb or nfs fileserver.
[23:56] <rhpot1991> I missed the quetion, unless you need the expanded storage I wouldn't bother
[23:56] <rhpot1991> storage as in hard drive and pci slots for tuners
[23:57] <rhpot1991> also you can always add a slace backend later, get one running first :)
[23:57] <bllz> rhpot1991:  the issue is i have one VERY loud harddrive that I can potentially put in an enclosure and attach to a laptop
[23:57] <bllz> the laptop could then either run a remote filesystem or a myth slave backend
[23:57] <mrand> weak laptop.  I think he's using it to get the loud drive away from everything else.
[23:57] <bllz> i.e. in the closet where it belongs lol
[23:57] <rhpot1991> how large is the drive?
[23:57] <bllz> 500gb
[23:57] <rhpot1991> slave backend without a tuner wont do much for you
[23:58] <rhpot1991> each backend will record to its own storage groups (I'm pretty sure)
[23:58] <mrand> rhpot1991: yeah, that what I realized after thinking about it a second.
[23:58] <bllz> but you can prioritize storage groups can't you?
[23:58] <mrand> bllz: A loud 500 GB?  Is it going bad? :-)
[23:58] <rhpot1991> bllz: without that drive you don't think you will have enough storage?
[23:58] <bllz> so Ilots of seek noise
[23:58] <rhpot1991> I'd just get a new drive :)
[23:58] <bllz> i have another 500gb drive in the frontend
[23:58] <rhpot1991> if its loud something is prob wrong
[23:58] <rhpot1991> and you can get a 1-2tb drive for cheap anymore
[23:58] <mrand> rhpot1991: me too :-)
[23:59] <bllz> rhpot1991:  no, it's just loud seek noise and it's a seagate so no AAM
[23:59] <bllz> yeah, the problem is i can't really afford a new drive right now =/
[23:59] <mrand> Find a sale over christmas.  1 TB was $60 over Thanksgiving.
[23:59] <bllz> damn
[23:59] <Zinn> bllz: Please watch your language.
[23:59] <bllz> that's not bad at all
[23:59] <rhpot1991> bllz: get the system up and running with one 500 for now?
[23:59] <bllz> Zinn's a sensitive little bot isn't he?