| slangasek | is tester 'Ulysses' on IRC? | 01:14 |
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| ara | morning! | 06:51 |
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| ^arky^ | hi | 07:50 |
| ^arky^ | anyone faced any issues with manual partitioning | 07:50 |
| ara | hey ^arky^ | 08:11 |
| ara | ^arky^, I fixed the script url in the blog post | 08:12 |
| * ara is doing alt i386 manual partitioning, btw | 08:12 | |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:31 |
| ara | morning davmor2 | 08:32 |
| ^arky^ | hi ara , filed two one iso tracker, hope I got the process right | 08:35 |
| ^arky^ | s/one/new ones/ | 08:35 |
| ara | ^arky^, nice :) | 08:36 |
| davmor2 | ^arky^: if they show up on the tracker you almost certainly did :) | 08:37 |
| * ara takes a coffee break | 08:38 | |
| ara | davmor2, how is your testing going? any particular wtf I might know? | 09:17 |
| davmor2 | oem->end user gdm loses keyboard | 09:21 |
| davmor2 | when you reboot it works again | 09:22 |
| davmor2 | there is no fglrx module | 09:22 |
| davmor2 | and finally software center is in the wrong place | 09:23 |
| davmor2 | oh and launchpad keeps timing out on the bug I'm trying to report | 09:23 |
| davmor2 | ara: can you report a bug on lp | 09:27 |
| ara | davmor2, on the timing out? | 09:30 |
| davmor2 | yeah every which way I try and word this description for the keyboard failing lp times out | 09:31 |
| ara | davmor2, it might be a temporal issue | 09:32 |
| davmor2 | yeah just annoying | 09:32 |
| Yos | How do I make a txt file out of lspci to attach to a bug report? | 09:35 |
| davmor2 | Yos: use lspci -vvnn > lspci.txt | 09:36 |
| Yos | Thanks again :) | 09:36 |
| * ara takes alt i386 free software only | 10:19 | |
| davmor2 | takes ltsp | 10:36 |
| ara | no matter how many times or configurations I try, vbox is always faster than kvm :-/ | 10:37 |
| davmor2 | ara: report it as a bug | 10:41 |
| ara | davmor2, like in "kvm is so damn slow" ? | 10:42 |
| davmor2 | No but you could do kvm is consistantly slower than vbox this really shouldn't be the case | 10:43 |
| ulysses__ | slangasek: I'm now here, sorry | 10:45 |
| slangasek | ulysses__: oh, hello | 10:46 |
| slangasek | ulysses__: I was wondering about your test report; if I remember which one it was, you said that OEM config hung after reboot, showing the udev messages from brltty? | 10:47 |
| ulysses__ | yes | 10:47 |
| slangasek | the brltty udev messages shouldn't have caused a hang, so I think you have two bugs | 10:47 |
| slangasek | could you file a bug report on oem-config about the second one? | 10:48 |
| ulysses__ | The ISOs were rebuilt since then, so I think I should repeat the test, perhaps the bug was fixed. | 10:49 |
| slangasek | yes, that's a good idea | 10:50 |
| soren | ara: Is kvm /really/ slow for you, or just a bit slower than virtualbox? | 10:52 |
| ara | soren, ok, let's say it is just slower. but you can feel the difference :-) | 10:52 |
| soren | ara: Is this when doing alternate or server installs, by any chance? | 10:53 |
| slangasek | ulysses__: I've uploaded the fix for brltty as well; I'm not rerolling any alpha1 CDs for it, but in a few hours it should be possible to definitively rule it out by pulling in the upgraded package from the network at install time | 10:53 |
| ara | soren, it was during alternate | 10:53 |
| ara | soren, alt installs, yes | 10:53 |
| soren | ara: Ok, that I can actually believe. | 10:53 |
| soren | ara: There are some architectural reasons why screen updates in kvm are really slow in the server and alternate installer, so it's reasonably well-known, actually. | 10:54 |
| ulysses__ | slangasek: I will test, and report the bug if I can | 10:55 |
| ara | soren, good to know :) | 10:55 |
| soren | The installed system, as well as desktop installs, should be faster in kvm. | 10:55 |
| soren | Quite a bit, actually. | 10:55 |
| ara | soren, I will give it a second try ;-) | 10:55 |
| ara | Ubuntu Server Team <3 KVM | 10:55 |
| soren | :) | 10:56 |
| soren | Ironically, even qemu does screen updates faster than kvm in the alternate and server installer. | 10:56 |
| davmor2 | soren: that seems kinda back to front though surely? | 11:21 |
| soren | davmor2: Yes. Hence, "ironically". | 11:28 |
| davmor2 | soren: I got the irony but it sounds so wrong still :( | 11:29 |
| ulysses__ | slangasek: I repeated the OEM install, with the same error, here is the screenshot: http://imagebin.ca/view/bnnUh1R.html | 12:13 |
| slangasek | ulysses__: please file a bug on oem-config, then | 12:17 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: is that on hw or vm | 12:22 |
| ulysses__ | vm, virtualbox 3.1 | 12:23 |
| davmor2 | live or alternate, i386 or amd 64? | 12:24 |
| ulysses__ | alternate i386, the latest build | 12:25 |
| davmor2 | okay cool I'll try a live 64bit oem on hw and see what results we get there, probably the same but it's worth a check | 12:26 |
| ulysses__ | slangasek: I filed a bug, if you need more information, ask me, here is the link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oem-config/+bug/495012 | 12:34 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 495012 in oem-config "Kubuntu OEM install hangs up on boot" [Undecided,New] | 12:34 |
| slangasek | ulysses__: ok, thanks | 12:42 |
| * ara -> lunch | 12:45 | |
| ara | slangasek, I saw that you already changed the ec2 / uc2 images in the tracker, thanks | 12:45 |
| slangasek | n/p :) | 12:46 |
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| nperry | ulysses__: Bug has already been filed for that, bug 491775 | 14:00 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 491775 in brltty "udevd warnings in /lib/udev/rules.d/85-brltty.rules" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491775 | 14:00 |
| ulysses__ | nperry: I know | 14:00 |
| ulysses__ | but this is another problem with OEM installation | 14:00 |
| nperry | Ah ok, sorry! | 14:01 |
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| moustafa | fader_, cr3, davmor2 : Voyage à l'épicerie | 14:04 |
| fader_ | moustafa: baguette! | 14:05 |
| davmor2 | morning moustafa fader_ cr3 | 14:05 |
| ulysses__ | I installed Kubuntu Lucid alternate i386 (erase entire disk), I could use it only after fixing broken packages from recovery console. The question is: passed or failed? | 14:06 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Howdy | 14:06 |
| fader_ | ulysses__: Yeah, that one sounds pretty bad... I'd personally fail it | 14:07 |
| moustafa | fader_ : Hon hon! | 14:07 |
| * fader_ is grabbing UNR to test some hardware and will pick up the UNR ISO test cases at the same time. | 14:07 | |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: on the latest image? | 14:08 |
| ulysses__ | davmor2: yes, I use the dl-ubuntu-test-iso program | 14:08 |
| davmor2 | ulysses__: okay just checking | 14:09 |
| moustafa | fader_ : Were the images updated today? Or are we using the same as yesterday? | 14:21 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Yes. :) | 14:21 |
| fader_ | moustafa: The ISO tracker shows the version we're testing; some are from today but not all | 14:21 |
| moustafa | fader_ That was magically vague | 14:22 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Then my work here is done ;) | 14:23 |
| fader_ | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/all | 14:23 |
| fader_ | moustafa: davmor2 is usually better plugged into what's going on than anyone else, so if he pops in and contradicts me, listen to him (for once) | 14:24 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: kubuntu was | 14:24 |
| davmor2 | ubuntu is the same as is xubuntu | 14:24 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: what are you looking to test? | 14:25 |
| moustafa | davmor2: Anything I can test. | 14:25 |
| moustafa | davmor2: Should Ubuntu Studio be tested? The rt kernel does offer its own share of quirks | 14:26 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: anything on the list that has no tests is a good place to be | 14:26 |
| moustafa | Ok, so I'll start with the DVDs, and the Netbook, and work my way to Ubuntu Studio | 14:27 |
| fader_ | moustafa: We want to hit everything we can :) | 14:27 |
| fader_ | moustafa: FYI, I am working on UNR right now so no need to grab that one | 14:27 |
| moustafa | fader_: Are we testing ISOs or playing Contra? | 14:27 |
| fader_ | Unless you want to that is... more testing is always good | 14:27 |
| fader_ | moustafa: As the system boots, do up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right... | 14:28 |
| moustafa | a,b,a,b, select, start | 14:28 |
| * moustafa really hopes DownThemAll! "rapes" the download limit | 14:30 | |
| fader_ | Nice... netbook-launcher segfaults in the live environment\ | 14:33 |
| fader_ | :) | 14:33 |
| fader_ | Heh, also, best bug title I've seen today: bug 373498 | 14:34 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 373498 in netbook-launcher "Mutlimonitor UNR makes me want to start killing kittens (again)." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373498 | 14:34 |
| moustafa | What's with all the kitty killing? | 14:39 |
| fader_ | What worries me is the "again" | 14:39 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: kittens are cute so if you need to kill one things must really be bad ;) | 14:40 |
| davmor2 | moustafa: besides you wouldn't want to try and kill a tiger would you ;) | 14:41 |
| moustafa | davmor2: Unless you're just a sick fool who takes any excuse to kill kittens | 14:41 |
| fader_ | davmor2: I think I could take a tiger kitten | 14:41 |
| fader_ | If I had a long stick and a head start | 14:41 |
| davmor2 | fader_: they can climb sticks dude ;) | 14:41 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Did I mention this stick was hollow, made of steel, and shoots bullets? | 14:42 |
| moustafa | fader_: A BOOMSTICK? | 14:42 |
| fader_ | It goes with my chainsaw hand. | 14:43 |
| davmor2 | fader_: but they you would P.O. mummy and daddy tiger :D I would want to see the mess they'd make of you :) | 14:43 |
| fader_ | Okay, so I lied about UNR testing -- if anybody else wants to take a look, see if netbook-launcher is segfaulting for you | 14:43 |
| moustafa | Resuming downloads | 14:44 |
| davmor2 | fader_: have a word with lool | 14:45 |
| moustafa | I should be able to test UNR in...20 minutes :( | 14:45 |
| fader_ | At least in the live environment; I haven't finished an install yet | 14:45 |
| fader_ | lool: davmor2 says I should bug you about netbook-launcher segfaulting | 14:45 |
| moustafa | 8 minutes until I can test UNR | 14:49 |
| fader_ | moustafa: You going to test it on real hardware or a VM? | 14:52 |
| moustafa | fader_: Real hardware | 14:52 |
| moustafa | fader_: I'll attempt to test as many things at the same time as I can, so I'll be using the machines in the lab | 14:52 |
| fader_ | Cool... I have tried it on a Toshiba NB100, so please try something else... it might be specific to this hardware | 14:52 |
| fader_ | Rockin | 14:52 |
| astechgeek | with yesterdays build for desktop amd64.iso was the desktop background supposed to be black? | 14:57 |
| astechgeek | before X started I got low graphics messages | 14:57 |
| astechgeek | manual partitioning worked but there weren' | 14:59 |
| astechgeek | were not any desktop icons | 14:59 |
| fader_ | astechgeek: That does not sound like expected behavior, no | 15:01 |
| techgeek | Yea I didn't think so... stupid question how would I file the results | 15:02 |
| fader_ | techgeek: Probably the best way is to use ubuntu-bug on the affected system... e.g. open a terminal and run "ubuntu-bug xorg" | 15:03 |
| fader_ | At least for the low-res graphics issue | 15:04 |
| fader_ | The lack of icons sounds more like nautilus didn't start up -- do you get anything if you right-click on the desktop? | 15:04 |
| techgeek | no right clicking the desktop didn't do anything, | 15:07 |
| techgeek | okay you answered my question. File a bug | 15:07 |
| fader_ | techgeek: Yep, sounds like you have two different issues; one for xorg and one for nautilus | 15:08 |
| fader_ | moustafa: I'm getting the same netbook-launcher behavior after install, so it's probably enough to see if it happens in the live environment on other hardware | 15:09 |
| ara | I think the person filing bug #500000 should get a prize or something | 15:23 |
| ara | we are getting close | 15:23 |
| ara | like in "Congrats!!! You just filed bug 500.000 in Launchpad!!!" | 15:23 |
| fader_ | ara: We should give them a free copy of Ubuntu! :D | 15:23 |
| ara | fader_, seeing the prices those get in the south american market, it can be a good prize indeed :D | 15:24 |
| davmor2 | it could be I've found a few in kubuntu | 15:24 |
| fader_ | Hehe | 15:24 |
| fader_ | ara: I should start selling Ubuntu CDs full-time for those prices | 15:25 |
| ara | hehehe | 15:25 |
| ara | you just go to uds, grab them all, and then sell them | 15:25 |
| ara | can anyone try to reproduce this in real hw? | 15:27 |
| ara | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/495082 | 15:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 495082 in gdm "Changing from default user to guest session and back crashes gdm" [Undecided,New] | 15:27 |
| fader_ | moustafa: ^^^ do you have any systems in the lab that are running the latest desktop image? | 15:28 |
| moustafa | fader_ Not yet. I tried to do too much on this laptop and the Celeron processor couldn't handle everything, so I had to give it a "breather". I'm back on track, but delayed | 15:29 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Okay, just looking to help test ara's bug as I don't have anything set up at the moment | 15:30 |
| fader_ | ara: I should be able to try to reproduce this in an hour or two, but I suspect you'll be offline by then | 15:30 |
| fader_ | If nobody gets it before then I'll add a comment to the bug | 15:31 |
| moustafa | fader_ I have some Ubuntu desktop disks ready, I could install it and try it out | 15:31 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Your call; I don't want you to try to do too much at once and end up thrashing :) | 15:31 |
| davmor2 | ara: I get gdm but I don't get a desktop once logged in | 15:31 |
| moustafa | fader_ That's ok, I love metal | 15:31 |
| fader_ | I'm going to be doing desktop tests on real hardware once I finish up the netbook tests, so I'll be installing desktop anyway | 15:31 |
| fader_ | hehe | 15:31 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Go for it then dude :) | 15:32 |
| ara | davmor2, so, you get a normal session, as it had crashed? | 15:34 |
| davmor2 | ara: I get normal->guest->gdm then after typing in the pass for normal user I get blackness and cursor the end | 15:35 |
| ara | davmor2, can you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look for crashes | 15:36 |
| ara | ? | 15:36 |
| davmor2 | worlds biggest log file | 15:42 |
| davmor2 | ara: I don't see anything that screams crash | 15:43 |
| moustafa | fader_ What should I expect to see failing on UNR? | 15:49 |
| fader_ | moustafa: netbook-launcher (the full-screen menu interface) | 15:50 |
| fader_ | i.e. I got only the menu bar at the top and a blank desktop | 15:50 |
| fader_ | If you get that, you can hit alt-f2, run gnome-terminal, and see if "netbook-launcher" segfaults when you run it | 15:50 |
| ara | moustafa, maximus (applications getting maximized by default) | 15:50 |
| fader_ | ara: maximus worked for me, just no launcher | 15:51 |
| ara | fader_, ok, I thought moustafa was asking for typical failings of unr | 15:51 |
| fader_ | ara: gotcha :) | 15:51 |
| moustafa | I also had a jockey-gtk failure | 15:57 |
| moustafa | I'll try and launch the netbook-launcher | 15:57 |
| fader_ | moustafa: so netbook-launcher did not start automatically? | 15:59 |
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| moustafa | fader_ No, it did not. I tried launching it with the terminal, and at first it didn't launch, and the second time it segfaulted | 16:00 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Roger, thanks. Can you mark bug 495066 as confirmed for me? | 16:02 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 495066 in netbook-launcher "Lucid netbook-launcher segfaults when started" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/495066 | 16:02 |
| fader_ | moustafa: There's an HP mini in the lab somewhere, right? | 16:24 |
| * fader_ is too lazy to look it up in the database. | 16:24 | |
| davmor2 | fader_: you have one :P | 16:25 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Yeah, but since the model I've been testing isn't booting after install and my mini is the only working system I have right now, I'm not going to try putting Lucid A1 on it :) | 16:26 |
| davmor2 | wimp | 16:26 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Can you try UNR on 200908-3474 when you have a moment? | 16:27 |
| fader_ | That should be an HP Mini 1000 | 16:27 |
| fader_ | Install seems to work for me but then it never boots | 16:28 |
| moustafa | I think that's what I used to test the netbook-launcher | 16:30 |
| fader_ | Hmm, strange | 16:30 |
| moustafa | fader_ I can confirm I'm using 200909-3474, but install is a bit slow | 16:31 |
| fader_ | It may be flaky hardware then; I'll test it with karmic or something in a bit | 16:31 |
| moustafa | * 200908-3474 | 16:31 |
| moustafa | I'm actually installing...so...do I stop? | 16:31 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Nope, I would be very interested if it works | 16:32 |
| fader_ | I thought you had already installed on it, sorry | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | soren: hi! fyi, I checked test-postgresql.py into qrt. This currently runs the testsuite in postgresql-common which should have ~1000 tests in it. | 17:02 |
| jdstrand | soren: it might be nice to add an 'Integrate qa-regression-tests postgresql tests into checkbox: TODO' to qa-lucid-automated-server-testing | 17:02 |
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| jdstrand | soren: fyi only... not trying to create more work for you ;) | 17:03 |
| sal_ | what is the best way to report testing bits? | 17:12 |
| * jdstrand wonders why he doesn't show up in http://piware.de/workitems/qa/lucid/report.html, when he clearly has a work item in qa-lucid-automated-server-testing | 17:13 | |
| jdstrand | oh, it is showing up under soren's list | 17:14 |
| === fader|lunch is now known as fader_ | ||
| * moustafa is disappointed davmor2 isn't here :( | 17:42 | |
| fader_ | moustafa: Any luck on getting the HP Mini installed? | 17:45 |
| moustafa | Haven't checked on it yet, had some parallel issues alongside, I'll check right away | 17:46 |
| moustafa | fader_ It's progressing excessively slowly | 17:51 |
| fader_ | Hmm | 17:51 |
| moustafa | And apparently, blanking disks with Brasero is a bad idea | 17:51 |
| fader_ | How come? | 17:51 |
| moustafa | fader_ The install is at 80%. It's horrendously slow. I'm not sure if I want to blame the hardware or the USB key | 18:00 |
| fader_ | moustafa: I blame you personally :) | 18:00 |
| * moustafa cries | 18:01 | |
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| === ulysses__ is now known as Guest80016 | ||
| === Guest80016 is now known as ulysses__ | ||
| jdstrand | marjo: fyi-- I noticed that some of the QA work item lists have the format: | 18:27 |
| jdstrand | [cr3] * Write script to branch qa-regression-testing: DONE | 18:27 |
| jdstrand | marjo: that '*' shouldn't be there (see ubuntu-devel from a little while ago) | 18:27 |
| marjo | jdstrand: ok, i'll fix them | 18:28 |
| marjo | thx! | 18:28 |
| jdstrand | marjo: the script won't put 'cr3' in the right place in the workitems report if the '*' is there | 18:28 |
| jdstrand | marjo: np! | 18:28 |
| === moustafa|lunch is now known as moustafa | ||
| moustafa | fader_ : Could the firewall be in the way of an installation where it would need to fetch items from a repository? | 19:20 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Shouldn't be; it allows access to the repositories | 19:20 |
| moustafa | fader_ : Ah, because the Ubuntu Studio 64-bit installer failed on the same spot :( | 19:21 |
| fader_ | Which spot? | 19:21 |
| moustafa | fader_ This is aggravating: I (finally) finish the Netbook installer, let it reboot, and forget to have it skip the network install :( Now I start it again by going straight to the installer, and it's already almost finished | 20:37 |
| fader_ | moustafa: D'oh :( | 20:37 |
| moustafa | Oh! Vanity! Thy name is Farnsworth! | 20:37 |
| fader_ | Heheh | 20:37 |
| === astechgeek is now known as techgeek | ||
| moustafa | fader_ In somewhat related news: What's the "Debian installer"? The straight installer mode or the text install? | 20:41 |
| fader_ | moustafa: That's the text-mode installer. ubiquity is the graphical installer. | 20:41 |
| moustafa | fader_ netbook-launcher segfaults after the install! | 20:44 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Okay, good -- not just me then :) | 20:44 |
| moustafa | fader_ : The performance is good. Great, even. But it's not quite what UNR is shown to be | 20:46 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Eh? | 20:46 |
| moustafa | fader: It boots up fast, runs smoothly, but since the netbook-launcher fails to start, it's not UNR | 20:47 |
| fader_ | Hehe indeed | 20:48 |
| moustafa | fader_ , cr3: Good evening, see you tomorrow! | 22:01 |
| fader_ | moustafa: Cya! | 22:02 |
| === fader_ is now known as fader|away | ||
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