[00:00] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hdtdi_: same result. only thing that stops it is killall -KILL apache2. killall apache2 doesn't work
[00:01] <matju> ActionParsnip: if something is on the usb bus, then why does it show up in lspci and not in lsusb ?
[00:01] <hdtdi_> dont know mate.. with sudo apache2ctl stop indeed nothing happens but sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop works fine for me
[00:02] <eremite> When I plug my card reader into my USB plug, and insert the card, ubuntu does not read the card.
[00:02] <Billiard> hdtdi_: how did you start apache
[00:03] <Billiard> eremite: is the card formatted?
[00:03] <holmser> anyone here compiled moonlight 2.0 beta?
[00:03] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hdtdi_: i haven't found anything helpful on the net either, i think i'm gonna file a bug on this one. thanks for trying
[00:04] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, I got the grub-pc update. Now the dialog defconf appear asking me to choose option. Which should I choose? "Keep the local version currently installed"?
[00:04] <Tina-> holmser: why you need it, i've never seen it accept on windows sites
[00:04] <holmser> to watch some streaming videos
[00:05] <holmser> WEC.tv specifically
[00:05] <apocalypt> isolat3dsh33p: do u want to keep the old configuration then choose yes
[00:05] <con6> hi, good morning...
[00:05] <tn90> i configured wlan via wap_supplicant.conf, referenced to it via interfaces.conf and /etc/init.d/networking restart does activate the connection. The Problem I encounter occurs when i reboot. shouldn't the script for networking start be executed? I think it is because wlan is not established when dhcp tries to get an IP. Is there a way to have a delay between wlan init and dhcp. or to make dch
[00:05] <Billiard> isolat3dsh33p: if you didnt make any changes manually you should install the mantainers version
[00:05] <LetsGo67> Istarnes?
[00:05] <tn90> dhcp to recheck after a while
[00:05] <holmser> just downloaded the svn repo
[00:05] <holmser> working on compiling
[00:06] <isolat3dsh33p> apocalypt: it's the "What would you like to do about grub?" question. I don't know which to choose
[00:06] <holmser> do I need to sudo a "make install" command?
[00:07] <apocalypt> isolat3dsh33p: do what Billiard said. it's the safe way if u did change anything in grub
[00:07] <isolat3dsh33p> Billiard: I'm not sure I did, but I have dual boot. I don't have to reconfigure it for dual boot right?
[00:07] <^workman^> holmser: yes
[00:07] <apocalypt> *i meant didn't
[00:07] <LetsGo67> *sighs*
[00:07] <^workman^> !source
[00:08] <^workman^> hmm, not what I was expecting..
[00:10] <apocalypt> isolat3dsh33p: normally it should see the other bootable OS on your Pc.
[00:10] <linuxguy2009> Ok Im ditching 9.10 and going back to 9.04. I want the netbook edition on my netbook and the regular on my desktop. The netbook is in IMG format. Whats the easiest way to convert it to ISO for DVD burning?
[00:10] <eremite> Billiard: no, the card is not formatted.  Ubuntu doesnt even give me a pop up notification saying that it's detected the hardware, but the light on the reader does come on.  So many, many problems with Karmic.
[00:10] <isolat3dsh33p> apocalypt: I'll choose install the new one then. And do the debugging later.
[00:11] <isolat3dsh33p> apocalypt, Billiard : thanks. :)
[00:11] <etfb> Is there a tool similar to KDiff3, WinDiff or WinMerge, that does file _and directory_ comparisons in Gnome?
[00:11] <apocalypt> isolat3dsh33p: np...do it if it works :D
[00:11] <Billiard> eremite: is the card dispayed when you use the sudi fdisk -l command
[00:12] <Flannel> etfb: I believe meld does
[00:13] <lzrdking> grrr, XSANE works locally, but when i try from my laptop, i see the connection coming in and XSANE says no devices were found
[00:13] <etfb> Flannel: Excellent.  Don't know why I didn't see that.  Installing now.
[00:13] <qwyeth> How can I selectively remove users from the GDM greeter list without deleting accounts in Karmic?
[00:14] <eremite> Billiard: Big thanks.  Got it figured out.,
[00:14] <etfb> Flannel: Perfect!  Thank you.
[00:14] <Billiard> eremite: ok cool
[00:16] <xtjacob> ok this is really annoying, I've been having Internet problems with my web browser, and it doesn't matter which one. I'm having slow Internet and every now and then i get errors about the website not loading. Can someone please help!
[00:17] <rob0917_> If ubuntu freezes on you ,what should you do?
[00:18] <linxeh> cry
[00:18] <DeSian> rob0917, Alt-Delete+F2
[00:18] <rob0917_> ty
[00:18] <BOBO> you should chill out ;)
[00:18] <morpeth> when I change something (say, listening port) in sshd_config the changes don't apply when I restart the service (or restart the machine). Anyone have any idea why this might be?
[00:18] <BOBO> or thaw :)
[00:18] <Billiard> xtjacob: do other computers on your network have this problem
[00:19] <goncalo> need help!! hot to install nvidia driver
[00:19] <xtjacob> Billiard: no one is running linux mint wireless, the other ubuntu lan. I also forgot to say i'm on wireless too
[00:19] <holmser> damn... mono won't compile and install on my machine
[00:19] <Billiard> goncalo: does it show up in the hardware drivers from the menu?
[00:20] <Billiard> xtjacob: so yes problems, or no problems with other computers
[00:20] <holmser> the error is stops on is mcs not found in /bin/sh
[00:20] <lostin> My sqlite does not have a .pc file in usr/lib/pkgconfig.  How can I fix this?
[00:20] <xtjacob> no problems
[00:20] <xtjacob> Billiard: no problems
[00:20] <goncalo> how can i see it? tell me steps on menu
[00:21] <Hilikus> where are the ufw rules stored?
[00:21] <etfb> Flannel, it's typical Gnome software though.  No proper keyboard shortcuts, and lots of little bugs that make it a pain to use.  I guess the people who wrote it don't actually use it themselves...
[00:21] <Billiard> xtjacob: im guessing its poor wireless drivers, i dont know what you could do
[00:21] <Billiard> goncalo: there is only about 20 things on the menu, just take a look, its probably like administration>hardware drivers
[00:21] <xtjacob> Billiard: well it just started doing this i've been using it for awhile and no its just starting to do it. I'm on an acer aspire 4530 laptop
[00:21] <xae8koo> Hello
[00:21] <plitter> does anyone know how 2*Increment([m+1/2]) = 2*Increment(m)
[00:22] <plitter> ?
[00:22] <xae8koo> Does emphaty have an backend I can see in a terminaL?
[00:22] <jrib> plitter: is this really an ubuntu question?
[00:22] <goncalo> hmm i think it is already isntalled
[00:22] <goncalo> 1 other problemthis 1 big problem
[00:22] <Alvinch> good morning
[00:22] <plitter> jrib: no... but i figured a lot of the people here were doing pseudocode so i figured to give it a shot here as well
[00:23] <goncalo> i got my windows fkud up
[00:23] <lzrdking> can anyone help me with SANE over a network?
[00:23] <jrib> plitter: please keep questions related to ubuntu support here
[00:23] <goncalo> it only recognized 30gb of HD but i have 1tb
[00:23] <jrib> !ot > plitter
[00:23] <plitter> jrib: nothing came up
[00:24] <jrib> !ot | plitter
[00:24] <mac9416> Hey, y'all, how can I install Java plugins for Firefox?
[00:24] <mac9416> !java
[00:24] <mac9416> Whadayaknow.
[00:24] <plitter> jrib: ahh, will do
[00:24] <xtjacob> anyone have any ideas?
[00:24] <Billiard> goncalo: run sudo fdisk -l
[00:25] <goncalo> ubuntu only recognizes 850gb of 930gb. i want to know whats happening to the others gb.is there any app like partition magic ?
[00:25] <jrib> goncalo: how are you determining what ubuntu recognizes?
[00:26] <Billiard> goncalo: i just told you one
[00:26] <goncalo> how can i run that? im n00b at linux, this was the only SO that my PC recognized
[00:26] <Billiard> goncalo: type in this command    sudo fdisk -l
[00:26] <goncalo> where
[00:27] <Billiard> goncalo: a command prompt
[00:27] <apocalypt> goncalo: open a Terminal
[00:27] <goncalo> :S i have no idea whats that :S
[00:27] <goncalo> okk
[00:27] <goncalo> done
[00:27] <apocalypt> sudo fdisk -l
[00:28] <Billiard> goncalo: it will list your partitions
[00:28] <goncalo> it does
[00:28] <goncalo> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[00:28] <jrib> !who | goncalo
[00:29] <xtjacob> ok this is really annoying, I've been having Internet problems with my web browser, and it doesn't matter which one. I'm having slow Internet and every now and then i get errors about the website not loading. Can someone please help!
[00:29] <goncalo> !tab oi
[00:29] <leaf-sheep> xtjacob: Firefox?
[00:29] <linuxguy2009> How do I convert netbook.img file to ISO so i can install to my netbook with an external DVDRW drive?
[00:29] <goncalo> !who | xtjacob
[00:29] <xtjacob> leaf-sheep: firefox and google chrome
[00:30] <goncalo> how can i refer the person i want to talk?
[00:30] <leaf-sheep> xtjacob: Is it happening right now? If so, try this. Open a terminal and "firefox -safe-mode" to determine that it is not one of the extensions causing that.
[00:30] <Billiard> !tab | goncalo
[00:30] <jrib> goncalo: write their nick at the beginning of what you say
[00:31] <apache> hi guys i've a problem with ubuntu
[00:31] <xtjacob> leaf-sheep: ok, but right now i'm using chrome and still having the same problem
 like this?
[00:31] <Billiard> goncalo: yea thats good
[00:31] <goncalo> ok thanks
[00:31] <apocalypt> linuxguy2009: tried to burn the img file?
[00:31] <linuxguy2009> apocalypt: Umm no. Can I just use Brasero or my copy of nero Linux to do that?
[00:32] <Billiard> goncalo: you can try    sudo parted -l     its a little easier to read the sizes
[00:32] <xtjacob> leaf-sheep: started in safe mode still slow
[00:32] <epinky> linuxguy2009: use ccd2iso
[00:32] <morpeth> anyone? when I change something (say, listening port) in sshd_config the changes don't apply when I restart the service (or restart the machine). Anyone have any idea why this might be?
[00:32] <apocalypt> linuxguy2009: both u can use. try Brasero it should work good enough
[00:32] <linuxguy2009> epinky: I installed that tool but it says it cant access the file to write to it. Wierd.
[00:32] <Billiard> morpeth: what exactly did you change?
 i did, it says i only have those bytes, but all the space is avaiable at ubuntu, must be some error of calculation
[00:33] <Billiard> goncalo: you only have what bytes?
[00:33] <leaf-sheep> xtjacob: Gotcha. Fresh installation or what? You're the only one in the household using Internet and nobody else is torrenting stuffs?
[00:33] <epinky> linuxguy2009: ccd2iso $img_file $iso_file ?
[00:33] <lzrdking> can anyone help me with SANE?  it works fine locally, but when i try to connect over my network, i see the connection come in, but XSANE says "No devices available"
[00:33] <zruty> What can I do about my live USB dropping to an initramfs shell when booting?
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[00:34] <apache> anyone can help me?
[00:34] <goncalo> oops
[00:34] <Billiard> goncalo: try the command   sudo parted -l
[00:34] <^workman^> !ask | apache
[00:34] <morpeth> I uncommented #port 22 and replaced with Port 450 and killed and restarted sshd. any changes to sshd_config dont apply as if im editing the wrong file
 Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
[00:34] <linuxguy2009> epinky: might be the default file name length or format ill try renaming it first.
[00:34] <xtjacob> leaf-sheep: upgrade to 9.10 yes people are using internet, but it's fast for them. I'm currently downloading ubuntu 10.04 alpha 1, but it's not a torrent and it still does it even if i'm not torrenting anything.
[00:35] <Billiard> morpeth: which file did you edit?
[00:35] <apache> i get aan :   alert   /dev/disk/by-uuid/  my uuid does not exist
 /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:35] <Billiard> goncalo: do you have a question?
[00:35] <linuxguy2009> epinky: Error: cannot open source file for reading!
[00:36] <tzanger> good evening
[00:36] <apache> i get aan :   alert   /dev/disk/by-uuid/  my uuid does not exist       can anyone solve it?
[00:36] <tzanger> tell me, why does apt-get say some packages are being held back? can you inquire as to why?
[00:36] <Billiard> tzanger: which packages?
[00:36] <^workman^> !elaborate | apache
[00:36] <tzanger>   bind9-host dnsutils ifuse libbind9-50 libdns50 libiphone0 libisc50 libisccc50 libisccfg50
[00:36] <epinky> linuxguy2009: sudo chmod 777 $img_file
[00:37] <linuxguy2009> epinky: checking
 how can i get nice desktops and themes?
[00:37] <leaf-sheep> xtjacob: I'm trying the search engines and see if anything turns up.  It can be hard to troubleshoot this.  Some problems are either hit-or-miss.
[00:37] <apocalypt> goncalo: gnome-look.org
[00:37] <Billiard> goncalo: gnome-look.org  ?
[00:37] <^workman^> gnocalo: check out http://gnome-look.org
[00:37] <linuxguy2009> epinky: still no go
[00:37] <kain_> i have added my second partition in the fstab to automount, how can i enable my user to write, read, execute ect on the drive?
[00:37] <ae86-drifter> i am getting FATAL: Module fuse not found, i cannot install fuse ..!
[00:37] <xtjacob> leaf-sheep
[00:37] <xtjacob> ; ok thanks!
[00:37] <goncalo> ty
[00:37] <epinky> linuxguy2009: sudo ccd2iso $img_file $iso_file ?
[00:37] <morpeth> someone has the same problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1015959 exactly the same as with me
[00:37] <xtjacob> leaf-sheep: ok thanks!
[00:38] <lzrdking> no one is awake in #sane :(
[00:38] <apocalypt> 3 times i guess he will nerver looking for on other sites
[00:38] <apocalypt> lol
[00:38] <Shwack> Am I to understand I can take my USB key,  bring it home, stick it in my parent's computer, run Ubuntu, connect to my home computer via Control through Desktop app in Applications > Internet  , and be using my computer????
[00:38] <mMezquitale> kain_,  go to the place where you mounted the hard drive and chown it to yourself, ex: sudo  chown mezquitale:mezquitale /media/hd
[00:38] <Billiard> morpeth: pastebin your ssh and sshd config files
[00:38] <morpeth> k sec
[00:38] <ae86-drifter> Shwack, yeah sure
[00:39] <Shwack> ae86-drifter: .....that is so awesome
[00:39] <kain_> tried but opertation not permitted
[00:39] <kain_> oh yeah its true, i forgot, the type is fat32
[00:39] <linuxguy2009> epinky: Unrecognized sector mode (0) at sector 0!
[00:39] <^workman^> morpeth: the guy in the forum changes his port to 443 restarts sshd and then ssh's to port 22? doh!
[00:39] <ae86-drifter> Shwack, have you tried it
[00:39] <kain_> its supposed to be a different command
[00:39] <^workman^> morpeth: then asks why it doesn't work?
[00:39] <Shwack> ae86-drifter: no, I would not know where to start, but I would love to be able to connect to my home computer at my parent's house during christmas break
[00:40] <^workman^> morpeth: he would need to ssh to port 443.... ssh -p 443 $hostname
[00:40] <ae86-drifter> is your home computer running linux also?
[00:40] <apache> i have a problem with ubuntu :  when i check my new kernel it doesn't start, when i check my old kernel i get an alert:  /dev/disk/by-uuid/uuid  does not exists . When i try a live cd i get:  kernel panicnot syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block.
[00:40] <Shwack> yes
[00:40] <^workman^> morpeth: run - nmap localhost
[00:40] <Billiard> ^workman^: the problem is that he can still connect on port 22 after changing hte port
[00:40] <morpeth> No, he changes the port to 443, and then tries to ssh to 443 but refused, but 22 still listening! even though he edited ssh_config to port 443
[00:40] <mMezquitale> kain_, you have fat32 partition mounted using fstab and you can't write to it?!?
[00:40] <goncalo> noob question: how can i download ir? :P
[00:40] <ae86-drifter> wtf is ir
[00:40] <kain_> mMezquitale: i found how to do it
[00:41] <^workman^> Billiard: doh, missed that.. =) srry
[00:41] <mMezquitale> kain_, ok
[00:41] <ae86-drifter> infrared?
[00:41] <kain_> mMezquitale : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217492
[00:41] <Kedlun> hey anyone know how to check the version of a program in repos with apt-get?
[00:41] <jrib> Kedlun: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[00:41] <jrib> !apt > Kedlun
[00:41] <morpeth> netstat -na | grep -i listen shows 22 still open and listening even after sshd_config says port 450 (for instance) and i restarted the service
[00:41] <mMezquitale> morpeth, sounds like port 22 is still around somewhere in the config, youo might want to try logging in using -v to see what's going on
[00:41] <Shwack> ae86-drifter: both computers will be running ubuntu
[00:42] <Kedlun> jrib, ubottu, thanks guys
[00:42] <linuxguy2009> Kedlun: man apt-get
[00:42] <^workman^> morpeth: are you logged into the system via ssh right now?
[00:42] <ae86-drifter> kool well set up port forwarding on your router then
[00:42] <alankila> morpeth: sudo netstat -lanp | less. Then lok what binds to 22
[00:42] <apache> i have a problem with ubuntu :  when i check my new kernel it doesn't start, when i check my old kernel i get an alert:  /dev/disk/by-uuid/uuid  does not exists . When i try a live cd i get:  kernel panicnot syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block.
[00:42] <ae86-drifter> apache !repeat
[00:42] <morpeth> i can ssh -p 22 localhost yeah
[00:42] <ae86-drifter> !repeat apache
[00:42] <goncalo> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Yakano+-Colors-?content=95885 i want this 1, how do d apply it?
[00:42] <apache> i have a problem with ubuntu :  when i check my new kernel it doesn't start, when i check my old kernel i get an alert:  /dev/disk/by-uuid/uuid  does not exists . When i try a live cd i get:  kernel panicnot syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block.
[00:42] <ae86-drifter> apache STFU
[00:42] <ae86-drifter> enough flood here
[00:42] <mMezquitale> !language ae86-drifter
[00:42] <Billiard> !language | ae86-drifter
[00:43] <jedi06> how would I upload a directory to another computer?
[00:43] <ae86-drifter> .kickban apache
[00:43] <^workman^> morpeth: can you get to a normal console to the system you are messing with?
[00:43] <mMezquitale> !patience | apache
[00:43] <Billiard> jedi06: ftp sftp samba, how do you want to do it?
[00:43] <jedi06> scp
 http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Yakano+-Colors-?content=95885
[00:44] <lostin> When software is installed, how does the <filename.pc> file get created.  I have a software that won't install because it can't find sqlite.
[00:44] <apache> ubboty how can i repeat without causing flood
[00:44] <^workman^> jedi06: scp -rp dir name user@host:/path/
[00:44] <jrib> lostin: be more specific.  What software?  How are you installing it?
[00:44] <Shwack> ae86-drifter: will I need to have anything special running on home computer before attempting to connect to it?
[00:44] <Billiard> goncalo: what?
[00:44] <mMezquitale> apache, it sounds like your hard drive is dying or is already dead
[00:44] <apache> ubottu how can i repeat without causing flood
[00:44] <jrib> apache: wait 10-15 minutes before repeating
[00:44] <roygbiv> apache did you just upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[00:44] <Billiard> apache: you cant, so dont
 how can i aplly that theme
[00:44] <ardchoille> !nick > box_
[00:45] <apache> roygbiv, i have 8.10
[00:45] <Billiard> goncalo: im not 100% sure, you should be able to download the theme then drag it onto your theme selection dialog i think
[00:45] <morpeth> im sitting at the host now. I can ssh to it ok. it just doenst recognize any changes to sshd_config
[00:45] <VCoolio> goncalo: if there is a gtk theme inside that works the normal way; for the window borders you need emerald installed and use emerald theme manager
 ill try
[00:45] <Billiard> morpeth: pastebin your ssh config files
[00:45] <^workman^> morpeth: you are at the console correct? not connected remotely?
[00:46] <apocalypt> goncalo: choose the right for your system depends on gnome or kde. sometimes there is a readme file where u can see how to install that theme
[00:46] <mMezquitale> morpeth, i had the same issue, the problem was I had a port open in a config file
[00:46] <VCoolio> goncalo: and apply emerald as your window decorator; fusion-icon is a useful tool for that, or set it in your compiz window decoration plugin
[00:46] <apache> i have a problem with ubuntu : when i check my new kernel it doesn't start, when i check my old kernel i get an alert:  /dev/disk/by-uuid/uuid  does not exists . When i try a live cd i get:  kernel panicnot syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block.
[00:46] <jmigel> hey did pidgin stop working for everyone yesterday? im running whatever the LTS version is
[00:47] <jrib> apache: stop repeating so often (last warning)
[00:47] <lostin> jrib the software is GTK Fast Address. When I run the configure file I get an error.  No package 'sqlite3' found
[00:47] <apache> jrib, sorry
[00:47] <goncalo> where can i get compiz?
[00:47] <jrib> lostin: you need the corresponding -dev package
[00:47] <jrib> !compile > lostin
[00:47] <jrib> !compiz | goncalo
[00:47] <trism> lostin: libsqlite3-dev
[00:47] <mMezquitale> apache, I already told you it sounds like your hard drive is dying, UUID usually doesnt fail unless it's a hardware failure
[00:47] <goncalo> aorry
[00:47] <goncalo> sorry
[00:47] <jmigel> !pidgin
[00:48] <goncalo> !compiz
[00:48] <goncalo> !compiz | goncalo
[00:48] <jmigel> i try to connect to messenger with pidgin adn it tells me the protocol is not supported by the server... what to do?
[00:49] <Billiard> jmigel: which protocol?
[00:49] <jmigel> Billiard... messenger?
[00:49] <lostin> jrib I am looking now. trism, thankyou
[00:49] <Billiard> jmigel: msn aim ...?
[00:49] <mMezquitale> lol
[00:49] <jmigel> Billiard... oh sorry i thought msn is messenger... its msn
[00:49] <Shwack> Could an yone familiar with Terminal Server Client spend a few moments with me instructing which fields need to be filled out to connect and where I can find the appropriate information for those fields
[00:50] <^workman^> !tsclient
[00:50] <patriconway> hey what's the package name for the dvd decryption package in ubuntu 9.10? formerly known as libdvdcss2
[00:50] <^workman^> darn
[00:50] <apocalypt> jmigel: i guess msn is supported in pidgin
[00:50] <jmigel> apocalypt yes its been working fine for years
[00:50] <Shwack> ^workman^: I appreciate the try for a link to google but what i am looking for is human interaction with somebod who has done it before and can tell me what is necessary and what is not
[00:51] <BalSak> hi guys. got a new ALIX device shipped with a CF card & pf pre-installed. pulled the card & making a backup via dd over my ubuntu desktop, but I'm seening some weird things in the filesystem: references to "bsd magic" & the filesystem seems non-standars (i.e only a partion #4 is visible).
[00:51] <BalSak> any advice plase?
[00:51] <Billiard> patriconway: you need to install that package with a different command, one sec
[00:51] <goncalo> Billiard how can i play windows games here?
[00:51] <mMezquitale> Shwack, sounds like you want to browse the forums or you want someone to hold your hand in the room, try searching the forums and if you need help then come back, pointing you at the right direction usually helps you the most though
[00:51] <ZykoticK9> patriconway, libdvdread4
[00:51] <Billiard> goncalo: some games work with wine, check the wine appdb for supporting programs
[00:51] <^workman^> Shawck: its' pretty easy, host(server), username, password... what else do you need to know?
[00:52] <goncalo> ty
[00:52] <patriconway> thanks zykoticK9
[00:52] <^workman^> Shawck: click and explore =)... you are using the GUI client correct?
[00:52] <Shwack> mMezquitale: you assume i haven't already tried but thank you anyway
[00:52] <jmigel> I figure i have to upgrade from pidgin 2.4.1 to something newer... how come ubuntu wont let me upgrade to newer apps without changing animal names?
[00:52] <Billiard> patriconway: you might want   /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[00:53] <^workman^> Shwack: click and explore =)... you are using the GUI client correct?
[00:53] <VCoolio> jmigel: they want to ensure stability; add a repo with the version you want, if available
[00:53] <arand> patriconway: package name is the same afaik, but you need to run the specific script contained in the installed libdvdread4, unless you add the medibuntu repo.
[00:53] <BalSak> could it be a bug somewhere
[00:53] <BalSak> ?
[00:53] <migg137> how do i make my backlight dimer thanks
[00:53] <apocalypt> goncalo: games which aren't supported by wine maybe u can play with CrossOver Games oder Cedega. but u need to buy it.
[00:53] <ermac0> I cant seem to remove Adobe Flash 9, i have done sudo apt-get remove adobeplugin-nonfree and then downloadded the .deb file to install flash 10. That was successful however while loading checking about:plugins it shows both active...I disable flash 9 through the addons options, and then the adobe flash test website states that i dont have flash installed..So its not recognizing my flash 10..and someone still finding flash
[00:53] <ermac0>  9... I have ubuntu 8.04 LTS...please help
[00:53] <^workman^> Shwack: I use the terminal client daily... so let me know what you need help with
[00:53] <jmigel> VCoolio can i browse apps in repo's somewhere you think?
[00:54] <goncalo> ok
[00:54] <ermac0> Browser in use is firefox...
[00:54] <goncalo> CS it seems to work very fine
[00:54] <Shwack> ^workman^: yes, All i really need to know is Client hostname and domain
[00:54] <Shwack> i just want to be sure before i drive all the way home and find out i did something wrong...
[00:54] <^workman^> shwack: well, if you don't already know that info, then terminal server client isn't going to help
[00:54] <VCoolio> jmigel: paunchpad.net is a good place to start; or just google "ubuntu pidgin repository"; be sure not to install from an obscure source
[00:54] <VCoolio> jmigel: launchpad.net that is
[00:55] <mMezquitale> jmigel, ubuntu does let you upgrade applications, you can install/uninstall/upgrade whichever application you want
[00:55] <migg137> how do i make my backlioghts dimmer
[00:55] <^workman^> shwack: do you know if the remote host is part of a domain? do you know what the DS name is?
[00:55] <Billiard> migg137: did you check the power options?
[00:55] <jmigel> VCoolio thanks ill check it out... maybe ill just wait untill the april LTS and reinstall...
[00:55] <mMezquitale> migg137, youre using a laptop?
[00:56] <Oblat> I'm getting this error when I'm starting up vnc: http://paste-it.net/public/ga8e8f5/    How can I fix this error?
[00:56] <Shwack> ^workman^:  I will find out and get back to you - one moment
[00:56] <goncalo> Is it possible to use daemon tools or image disc creators
[00:57] <apocalypt> Oblat: did u start it with sudo?
[00:57] <jmigel> mMezquitale although what you say is true, you make it seem simple and that is misleading
[00:57] <Oblat> apo, no but i will try right now with sudo
[00:57] <Billiard> goncalo: you dont need daemon tools to mount images, you can just mount them with the mount command
[00:57] <migg137> nMezquitale, yes
[00:57] <^workman^> shwack: open the terminal client then - fill out the computer: field, protocol = RDP, username = ?, password: = ? Domain: ? (fill out the ? with your info for that host).
[00:57] <goncalo> oh, i dont know anything about those commands. can u give me a link to read more about it?
[00:58] <lzrdking> can anyone help me with SANE?  it works fine locally, but when i try to connect over my network, i see the connection come in, but XSANE says "No devices available"
[00:58] <Billiard> !mount
[00:58] <_ope_> anyone tell me why i get 2 X sessions load when it boots and one says it cant detect my video card settings and once i close it the other one loads fine?
[00:58] <^workman^> goncalo: man mount
[00:58] <Shwack> ^workman^: thank you, I just need to find out where to make sure i have correct info for domain is all
[00:58] <goncalo> !mount | goncalo
[00:58] <Oblat> apo, that made me go into the root user. I want to load it with my other user account.
[00:58] <apocalypt> goncalo: if u are a beginner on linux/Ubuntu try this www.ubuntuguide.org
[00:58] <^workman^> shwack: are you sure the system is part of a domain?
[00:59] <Shwack> ^workman^: I am not sure, no
[00:59] <mMezquitale> jmigel, it all depends on what you consider "simple".  Some  applications you can uninstall and install using a .deb package from their website, others you have to compile yourself, the point im trying to make is that it is quite possible and using a method that you prefer, you have to start at some point
[00:59] <Oblat> apocalypt, that made me go into the root user. I want to load it with my other user account.
[00:59] <^workman^> shwack: ok, then are you sure you have an account on that system? in either case?
[00:59] <migg137> mMezquitale, yes
[00:59] <Shwack> ^workman^: yes, indeed, fresh ubuntu isntall (new to linux hence the major noobness)
[00:59] <_ope_> can anyone help plz?
[01:00] <apocalypt> Oblat: then user need the permission to start vnc
[01:00] <epinky> !ask | _ope_
[01:00] <^workman^> shwack: ubuntu has nothing to do with your use of the Terminal Service Client
[01:00] <_ope_> i did ask a question
[01:00] <_ope_> i was refering to my question
[01:00] <Billiard> _ope_: you dont need to
[01:00] <goncalo> so confusing
[01:00] <Oblat> apocalypt, i was able to start it before normally but after i did upgrade , update and few other minor things it started giving me these errors
[01:00] <^workman^> shwack: the Terminal Service Client is an application to connect to a remote "windows system like - windows XP, windows Vista, etc.")
[01:01] <_ope_> k sorry
[01:01] <Oblat> but anyway how can i give permission to my other user account to start vnc?
[01:01] <Billiard> goncalo: many times you can just click an iso image and choose mount...
[01:01] <goncalo> GOOOD NEWS
[01:01] <^workman^> !elaborate | shwack
[01:01] <Shwack> ^workman^: ...oh, well that pretty much defeats everything i wanna do
[01:01] <Shwack> one moment iw ill elaborate
[01:02] <Shwack> What I would like to do is control my Ubuntu 9.10 I am on now, from my parent's Windows Computer.
[01:02] <MyGame> :p
[01:02] <qwyeth> How can I selectively remove users from the GDM greeter list without deleting accounts in Karmic?
[01:03] <Shwack> I was going to bring an Ubuntu Live CD home, so I could connect
[01:03] <^workman^> Shwack: ok, control from a GUI? or from a command line?
[01:03] <Billiard> Shwack: cli or gui control?
[01:03] <Shwack> GUI
[01:03] <Oblat> How can i give permission to my other user account to start vnc?
[01:03] <moymoy> how do i download the deltas of a file through HTTP? is it even possible?
[01:04] <goncalo> hmm how do i instal progrmas? C:\Program Files --> doesnt work?
[01:04] <apocalypt> Oblat: try to take these users in the vnc group
[01:04] <Billiard> moymoy: deltas?
[01:04] <Billiard> goncalo: which programs?
[01:04] <qwyeth> moymoy, that could happen only if the server is configured to send it to you
[01:04] <moymoy> Billiard: download only the difference, like how rsync does it
[01:04] <Oblat> It sounds easy when you say it but I have no clue on how to do what you just said.
[01:04] <qwyeth> there's no way for you to locally calculate the diff without downloading the whole file
 i downloaded megaupload manager, and installed it o C:\Program files  now i cant run it
[01:05] <Billiard> goncalo: what happens when you try to run it?
[01:05] <apocalypt> i use Kubuntu but i guess in Ubuntu there is also a policy kit
[01:05] <apocalypt> look for
[01:05] <mMezquitale> Oblat, I would look at the groups of both users and make sure both users are in the same groups
[01:05] <Shwack> ^workman^: Billiard:  I'm not sure if you saw my response, I want to use GUI - and I an bring a live CD home to be using Ubuntu on both computers if it would help
[01:05] <mMezquitale> goncalo, youre using ubuntu?
[01:05] <Oblat> How can I do that? I'm not using a GUI only putty.
[01:05] <moymoy> qwyeth: how does canonical do it with the ISO releases, with ZSYNC?
[01:05] <apocalypt> ok Oblat there is a file
[01:06] <goncalo> unnable to read mega manager ddatabase
[01:06] <apocalypt> Oblat: /etc/group
[01:06] <Billiard> Shwack: ya i saw, use vnc
[01:06] <Oblat> ok
[01:06] <Shwack> Billiard: k, thank you
[01:06] <apocalypt> Oblat: there u will find the Groups
[01:06] <mMezquitale> Oblat, learn to manage users using the command line, ive never done that so I cant help you there
[01:06] <jrib> goncalo: are you familiar with how software works on ubuntu?
[01:06] <goncalo> no, not at all
[01:06] <jrib> !software | goncalo
[01:06] <Billiard> goncalo: not All windows programs will work
[01:07] <Oblat> ok i will try to open the file in putty and edit it
[01:07] <Billiard> goncalo: did you check the wine appdb to see if that program is supported?
[01:07] <Billiard> or working rather
[01:07] <jrib> goncalo: you may want to try "tucan"
[01:07] <tzanger> Billiard: any ideas re packages being held back for no obvious reason?
[01:07] <apocalypt> Oblat: there are alot of commands to manage users. try to look for a list of basic commands linux
[01:08] <alankila> tzanger: try to specifically update one of those with "apt-get install <packagename>". It will generally tell you why it fails to update it
[01:08] <alankila> or force changes that allow it to be updated, as it may also be
[01:08] <Oblat> apocalypt: yea i was just looking that up now
[01:08] <lzrdking> hey, what can i do with a verizon DSL modem?  they never had me return it when i cancelled service
[01:08] <Billiard> tzanger: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:08] <qwyeth> moymoy, zsync apparently checks the files you have locally, then when you make the http request the remote server feeds you the ones that don't match
[01:08] <tzanger> alankila: unfortunately it doesn't
[01:08] <Billiard> lzrdking: paperweight
[01:08] <Billiard> doorstop
[01:08] <tzanger> Billiard: same thing... these packages are being held back... blah blah
[01:09] <tzanger> this is a box that was 9.04 -> 9.10 dist-upgraded
[01:09] <mikubuntu> anybody have this behavior recently?  all my desktop saved files have disappeard from the desktop; they are still available in the filesystem folder named 'desktop', but they no longer appear on the desktop screen.
[01:09] <tzanger> it does work fine except for this recent thing
[01:09] <tzanger> (the upgrade was last month I think)
[01:09] <mMezquitale> Oblat, cat /etc/group |grep username1 <---that will show you the groups that username1 is a part of
[01:09] <apocalypt> Oblat: especially look for "Users, Groups and Permissions"
[01:09] <lzrdking> oh... see i have a cable modem and its getting me free internet so i was wondering if the DSL modem could do that too
[01:09] <Billiard> tzanger: try manually specifing the new packages to install?
[01:09] <Shwack> mikubuntu i ahd that but when I pressed refresh in the Desktop folder they all showedup on the Desktop again
[01:09] <tzanger> Billiard: manually specifing one of the held back packages doesn't give a reason, just says the following ones are being held back <same list>
[01:10] <Billiard> lzrdking: you would have to still have service from them
[01:10] <Oblat> ok
[01:10] <Billiard> tzanger: what exactly did you try?
[01:10] <mikubuntu> Shwack: don't understand, where did you refresh?
[01:10] <qwyeth> moymoy, so that only works because it's going into the iso and treating it like a filesystem and comparing directory information
[01:10] <tzanger> Billiard: sudo apt-get upgrade bind9-host
[01:10] <Shwack> Places > Desktop - Refresh in Window
[01:11] <mMezquitale> tzanger, is that how you can upgrade just one package?
[01:11] <jrib> mMezquitale: no, it's not
[01:11] <Shwack> mikubuntu Relaod button in the Window next to Back and Forward buttons
[01:11] <tzanger> jrib: it's not?
[01:11] <mMezquitale> jrib, how can you upgrade just one package?
[01:11] <jrib> tzanger: nope, you are confused about what the upgrade command does
[01:11] <jrib> mMezquitale: apt-get install PACKAGE
[01:12] <tzanger> jrib: it's not often that I try to upgrade just one ... heh thanks
[01:12] <mMezquitale> jrib, i know how you install just one package but how do you upgrade or update just one package?
[01:12] <jrib> tzanger: read « man apt-get » about the difference between "upgrade" and "dist-upgrade" (the command you ran is juts "upgrade", package name does nothing)
[01:12] <jrib> mMezquitale: apt-get install PACKAGE
[01:12] <mikubuntu> schwack, nope that din't work for me
[01:12] <vivid> or dpkg -i PACKAGE
[01:12] <paul424> hey UI am on slackware, now I want to have those packages downloaded https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk2hs/0.10.1-3ubuntu2/+build/1320224 what command I shouyld use to acces this repostiory ?
[01:12] <tzanger> raindog: ok
[01:12] <tzanger> thanks
[01:13] <Shwack> mikubuntu sorry to hear that :(   i suppose you already restarted too.... sucks  - good luck man
[01:13] <tzanger> jrib: still no idea why upgrade's holding the packages back but install seems to do it
[01:13] <dtownhero> mMezquitale: installing the package automatically installs the latest greatest version
[01:13] <Oblat> apocalypt: what do i edit in the file specifically?
[01:13] <jrib> tzanger: did you read about the difference between "upgrade" and "dist-upgrade"?
[01:13] <mMezquitale> paul424, this is ubuntu support, for lucir support try #ubuntu+1
[01:13] <simurghen> how do i see the specs of my pc from cli, what make/brand/model it is, what cpu/model/frequency, how much ram/type, how much hdd/speed/model
[01:13] <mikubuntu> thanks anyways, it actually happend to me on my friends laptop last month in costa rica after i installed ubuntu
[01:13] <jrib> simurghen: lshw
[01:13] <qwyeth> paul424, slackware isn't designed to use apt, which is the package tool used by ubuntu and debian
[01:13] <mMezquitale> dtownhero, what if you already have the package installed and you want to only upgrade just one package?
[01:14] <arooni-mobile2> hi folks!  having trouble mounting /dev/md1 as my home partition.  md1 is a raid 1-0 device across two hard drives.  running karmic.  i changed nothing except for the locatoin of the PC (moved it without dropping it).  now when i try to mount /dev/md1 i see: "EXT3-fs: unable to read spuerblock; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mda1" ....   what should i do now?
[01:14] <qwyeth> paul424, so the repositories will not be compatible
[01:14] <mikubuntu> anybody have this behavior recently?  all my desktop saved files have disappeard from the desktop; they are still available in the filesystem folder named 'desktop', but they no longer appear on the desktop screen.
[01:14] <jrib> mikubuntu: is anything on your desktop?  Can you right click on your desktop?
[01:14] <Oblat> apocalypt: what do i edit in the file specifically?
[01:14] <Billiard> arooni-mobile2: could try fsck
[01:14] <apocalypt> Oblat: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[01:14] <goncalo> how can i adjust my nvidia driver settings?
[01:15] <mMezquitale> mikubuntu, can you go to the files and check the permissions?  are the files links?
[01:15] <jrib> goncalo: what settings exactly?
[01:15] <Billiard> goncalo: nvidia-settings   ?
[01:15] <tzanger> jrib: yep I did
[01:15] <ae86-drifter> can someone please help, i cannot run modprobe fuse
[01:15] <goncalo> yes
[01:15] <Oblat> apocalypt: That confused me a lot more =/
[01:15] <ae86-drifter> it says module fuse not found, fatal error
[01:15] <Telnet> Hello, I recently decided to try ubuntu after being with Gentoo for a year or so.  I was reading up on setting up support for my wifi card (I have a bcm4328 card not covered under the bcm43xx driver).  I could easily setup ndiswrapper and all that, but I had read something about how only b43-fwcutter was needed.  I have it installed and the card is accurately represented on the lspci, but I still can't use it.
[01:15] <Oblat> apocalypt: I opened up the file /etc/group, what do i have to edit there?
[01:16] <hdtdi> ok i made something stupid.. i dont know why i wanted to remove a file from my /var/www but instead i removed the whole /var/www with -rm -rf /var/www .. any way to undone that?
[01:16] <brent__> Hey
[01:16] <apocalypt> Oblat: is there a group vnc?
[01:16] <jrib> hdtdi: don't use -r or -f if you don't need them...
[01:16] <jrib> !recover | hdtdi
[01:16] <Billiard> ae86-drifter: dont think there is a module called fuse then
[01:16] <switch10_> any good programs to control a Windows GUI from Ubuntu?
[01:16] <mikubuntu> jrib and mMezquitale, no nothing happens when i right click on desktop, and well, i guess each thing i had on the desktop is actually a link to its location in the filesystem
[01:16] <Oblat> apocalypt: no, should i make a group for vnc?
[01:16] <Billiard> switch10_: vnc
[01:16] <apocalypt> no
[01:16] <jrib> mikubuntu: run nautilus
[01:17] <mikubuntu> jrib, and .. ?
[01:17] <goncalo> How to open .rar?
[01:17] <jrib> mikubuntu: and report result?
[01:17] <jrib> !rar | goncalo
[01:17] <epinky> !bcm43xx | telnet
[01:17] <Billiard> goncalo: install unrar package from the package manager
[01:17] <mMezquitale> mikubuntu, youre using karmic?
[01:17] <switch10_> Billard: will check it out thanks!!
[01:18] <Tiders> Is there anyway to hide the toolbar at the top of a specific window?
[01:18] <konsumer> if i install ubuntu or xubuntu on a laptop and decide to install another OS later, can i completely delete the partion with say, a windows xp installer?
[01:18] <apocalypt> Oblat: maybe u should install and configure vnc new using the help page
[01:18] <Telnet> !bcm43xx
[01:18] <mikubuntu> yes, but i upgraded instead of doing fresh install
[01:18] <Billiard> konsumer: it should let you yes
[01:18] <goncalo> it doesnt allow me to click on it :S
[01:18] <konsumer> Billiard: 'should' is the word im scared of
[01:18] <fattom> can anyone think of a reason that a wireless card on Karmic might only want to connect to Linksys routers?  The card connects to my 54GL just fine, but not any non-Linksys router.
[01:19] <Oblat> apocalypt: the thing is that it was working perfectly before i did upgrade and update, and svn up. I started it on my other user account by doing x11vnc -create.
[01:19] <Billiard> konsumer: if the windows installer doesnt for some reason you can remove all partitions with a linux live cd
[01:19] <ae86-drifter> i am getting FATAL: Module fuse not found, i cannot install fuse ..!
[01:19] <mMezquitale> konsumer, youll be able to delete it with any OS installer, I personally have a machine just for testing, it has windows on one partition and I leave some space for whatever distribution i want to test
[01:19] <Billiard> ae86-drifter: what is your ultimate goal?
[01:19] <goncalo> it doesnt allow me to click on it :S
[01:19] <ae86-drifter> setting up sshfs
[01:19] <Billiard> goncalo: what click what?
[01:19] <Billiard> ae86-drifter: what happens when you try to mount a sshfs?
[01:19] <goncalo> on the rar package to install
[01:20] <ae86-drifter> module fuse not found
[01:20] <mikubuntu> jrib, don't know what to report, i typed nautilus in a terminal, and the nautilus filesys opened
[01:20] <Billiard> ae86-drifter: paste bin your command and the output
[01:20] <ae86-drifter> ok
[01:20] <jrib> mikubuntu: well now see if the problem persists or if anything changed
[01:20] <Billiard> goncalo: opened synaptic package manager?
[01:20] <Oblat> apocalypt: thank you for the help
[01:20] <goncalo> hmm synaptic??
[01:20] <i_is_broke> what is the command to kill pulseaudio?
[01:21] <Billiard> goncalo: yea, its in the menu adminstration > package manager, or something similar
[01:21] <vivid> it will just repsawn
[01:21] <mikubuntu> jrib, voila, they're all back .. but WHY?
[01:21] <apocalypt> Oblat: maybe u got corrupt packages. try sudo apt-get -f install
[01:21] <jrib> mikubuntu: nautilus handles that stuff, it crashed for some reason
[01:21] <fattom> i_is_broke - sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio kill
[01:21] <fattom> replace kill with restart or start to turn it back on
[01:22] <mikubuntu> jrib, it would be nice to toggle that on and off, is there a way?
[01:22] <jrib> mikubuntu: toggle what exactly?
[01:22] <konsumer> Thanks for the help fellas :)
[01:22] <konsumer> have a good day
[01:22] <mikubuntu> jrib, having all that mess i have on my desktop on and off
[01:23] <fattom>  can anyone think of a reason that a wireless card on Karmic might only want to connect to Linksys routers?  The card connects to my 54GL just fine, but not any non-Linksys router.
[01:23] <mikubuntu> so if i'm showing off my kook ubuntu system to an 'unbeliever' it looks all slick
[01:23] <Billiard> fattom: crappy card, crappy drivers
[01:23] <mikubuntu> :P
[01:23] <mikubuntu> kool, not kook
[01:23] <mikubuntu> hahaha
[01:24] <fattom> Billiard - the drivers work absolutely perfectly with Linksys routers, though.  Doesn't sound like a driver issue exactly.
[01:24] <plitter> lets say i just added a path in my .bashrc how do i make the shell update without exiting the shell?
[01:24] <goncalo> very nice!!!
[01:24] <goncalo> thanks
[01:24] <jrib> mikubuntu: you can use toggle the gconf key that has nautilus show_desktop on and off (use gconftool-2 command)
[01:24] <gogeta> yawn
[01:25] <fattom> plitter - source ~/.bashrc
[01:25] <plitter> fattom: thanks:)
[01:26] <mikubuntu> hmm, don't understand
[01:26] <Coded1> can anyone tell me the emacs command for dispatching sharks with lasers ?
[01:26] <anom01y> hi, I am stuck
[01:26] <Coded1> possibly an apt-get
[01:26] <jrib> Coded1: apt-get install funny-jokes?
[01:27] <anom01y> I have infront of me my friends computer who has ubuntu 9.04
[01:27] <anom01y> and the hard drive is acting up or something.
[01:27] <gogeta>  anom01y well stuck with what
[01:27] <Coded1> jrib, apt returns an error about dependancys
[01:27] <anom01y> last time it ran it wanted a manual fsck check
[01:27] <BlueG> I'm having random freezes with 9.10 on a Dell Dimension 4500s that aren't happening on any other computers I have installed it on. The cursor continues to move, but nothing else works. Switching virtual terminals, caps lock, numlock, can't ssh in, or get a reply to ping. Any suggestions?
[01:27] <Coded1> dependencies
[01:27] <jrib> Coded1: user-related I'm sure ;)
[01:27] <anom01y> gogeta, now this computer doesnt even boot I get error 13 and error 25 when trying to load grub
[01:28] <gogeta> anom01y:  be a good idea to let it
[01:28] <Tiders> Is there any way to run a program without a toolbar if so what is the command to add to it "--command?"
[01:28] <Coded1> jrib, i just updated !
[01:28] <goncalo> cant play css
[01:28] <anom01y> so, with a live cd in it can I  do a fsck on that hd
[01:28] <anom01y> and fix the prob ?
[01:28] <goncalo> it just do not open the server
[01:28] <gogeta> anom01y: sounds like the fs nuked itsself
[01:28] <Billiard> anom01y: you can fsck on a live cd
[01:28] <mikubuntu> oh, well, checking out, thanks guys
[01:28] <anom01y> ok good thanks
[01:29] <goncalo> how can i get that thing that transforms your desktop in a cube with 6 desktops?
[01:29] <Coded1> goncalo, are there lasers involved?
[01:30] <Coded1> maybe sharks?
[01:30] <fattom> goncalo - it's part of compiz.  It's installed by default in recent versions.
[01:30] <goose> I only have Ubuntu installed on my PC, no other OS. But GRUB is still installed on my PC, and it freezes at the grub package anytime I try and update. Can I sudo apt-get remove grub, and be safe, since linux is my only OS?
[01:30] <jrib> !icons | mikubuntu
[01:30] <lzrdking> desktop-cube
[01:30] <fattom> goncarlo - it's part of compiz.  It's installed by default in recent versions.
[01:30] <goncalo> i got the 9.1 or 9.04 version
[01:30] <goncalo> i dont got it
[01:30] <gogeta> Billiard: dunno last time i had a fs fail the hdd died
[01:30] <plitter> fattom: do i have to do it in every window i have open or is it enough to do it in one?
[01:30] <jrib> mikubuntu: you want to toggle the show_desktop key.  Of course, you want to learn to use gconftool-2 instead of the gconf-editor to do it
[01:30] <lzrdking> 9.10, not the same as 9.1
[01:30] <anom01y> gogeta, Billiard ,   its taking forever to boot the live cd, giving me tons of errors about ata1 (ata1.00 status: {DRDY ERR} ect..
[01:30] <fattom> goncarlo - use synaptic to get the compiz package
[01:31] <gogeta> anom01y: sounds ike he installed from a bad iso
[01:31] <mikubuntu> jrib, thx i will check out the page
[01:31] <mkquist> new install no x server problems - alli get is cl login
[01:31] <fattom> then run the gconf-editor
[01:31] <fattom> plitter - likely in each one.
[01:31] <gogeta> anom01y: guess he gets a freee upgrade to 9.10
[01:31] <fattom> each one is a separate shell
[01:31] <anom01y> gogeta, no the linux install was good for a year, but he did something to his computer that really messed it up
[01:32] <plitter> fattom: k, thanks anyways:)
[01:32] <gogeta> anom01y: ata errors are hardware realted then
[01:32] <anom01y> so now I am fixing it from at my house
[01:32] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> quick non-technical question: what happens when we run out of letters for ubuntu releases (zany zebra)?
[01:32] <fattom> e
[01:32] <zerq> start over probably?
[01:33] <gogeta> anom01y: check all his drives and how there connected
[01:33] <Axizor> Hey all
[01:33] <dukz_> +
[01:33] <zerq> like hurricanes, idk lol
[01:33] <Flannel> Hawaiian_Eskimo: We likely roll over to AA.
[01:33] <goose> I only have Ubuntu installed on my PC, no other OS. But GRUB is still installed on my PC, and it freezes at the grub package anytime I try and update. Can I sudo apt-get remove grub, and be safe, since linux is my only OS?
[01:33] <fattom> We'll name them in Greek.
[01:33] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> fattom: good idea
[01:33] <vivid> goose, no, you need a bootloader
[01:33] <fattom> you really need Grub.  Otherwise it won't work.
[01:33] <fattom> Or some other bootloader
[01:33] <Axizor> Quick question with Evolution Mail: I set up a IMAP Gmail account but all the graphics in the email aren't being displayed... Is there an easy way to fix this? I have v. 9.10
[01:33] <goncalo> i have compiz installed, and now?
[01:34] <lzrdking> Axizor: go to View->show images
[01:34] <lzrdking> or something similar
[01:34] <apocalypt> goncalo: u need compizconfig-settings-manager too
[01:34] <fattom> can anyone think of a reason that a wireless card on Karmic might only want to connect to Linksys routers?  The card connects to my 54GL just fine, but not any non-Linksys router, so I don't think it's a driver issue.
[01:35] <Telnet> Hey I followed the b43-fwcutter guide from !bcm43xx and I added blacklist ssb to the proper file "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf."  Unfortunately on reboot it still loads (From lsmod)
[01:35] <gogeta> Flannel: LOL
[01:35] <goncalo> done
[01:35] <goncalo> and now?
[01:35] <goose> vivid: is there a dpkg command or something I can use to reocnfigure/reinstall/fix grub?
[01:35] <Flannel> gogeta: What?
[01:35] <gogeta> Flannel: who let you in hear
[01:36] <apocalypt> goncalo: open the manager and look for the cube config
[01:36] <vivid> goose, i believe sudo update-grub is the preferred method
[01:36] <Billiard> goose: you can try grub-install
[01:36] <lzrdking> i remember lilo
[01:36] <apocalypt> !compiz | goncalo
[01:36] <goose> vivid: that locks up too, have to kill it with Ctrl+C
[01:36] <Axizor> Thank you lzrdking, I am trying Ubuntu out in VmWare and just wanted to know. I appreciate the help.
[01:36] <goncalo> idk where to find the manageR?
[01:37] <lzrdking> Axizor: how to do it automatically, i have no idea
[01:37] <epinky> fattom: dumb question, is your AP broadcasting your SSID?
[01:37] <lzrdking> epinky: not dumn, mine do not broadcast
[01:37] <fattom> on this router, yes
[01:37] <lzrdking> dumb
[01:37] <switch10_> goncalo: system>settings
[01:37] <paul424> qwyeth: I can use an converter ... just tell me how to do ..erght
[01:37] <fattom> that's such a weak security setting that I don't even bother.
[01:37] <apocalypt> goncalo: System -> Preferences -> CompizConfig Settings Manager
[01:38] <switch10_> oh yea preffs
[01:38] <fattom> Each of the other brand routers I've tried also broadcast.
[01:38] <Telnet> Hey I followed the b43-fwcutter guide from !bcm43xx and I added blacklist ssb to the proper file "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf."  Unfortunately on reboot it still loads (From lsmod)
[01:38] <goncalo> i got only system, not preferences
[01:38] <lzrdking> you need to install ccsm i think
[01:38] <fattom> goncarlo - run compizconfig-settings-manager in a terminal
[01:38] <epinky> fattom: sometimes wpa_supplicant consider that detail :)  really odd
[01:39] <gogeta> fattom: wpa or wpa2 is plenty to have a big keep out lol
[01:39] <Reign2> anyone know how to echo text FROM a file TO a script?
[01:39] <Flannel> Reign2: As input you mean? or to create a file that's a script?
[01:39] <lzrdking> all routers broadcast unless you turn it off
[01:39] <SpaceGhostC2C> Reign, use cat and pipes and grep
[01:39] <SpaceGhostC2C> Reign2, use cat and pipes and grep
[01:39] <fattom> epinky - sorry, I didn't catch what you meant by that.  Is that a router setting or an Ubuntu config setting?
[01:39] <Reign2> for instance, in order to read a password from a file so I dont have to put my root pw in plain text in a script
[01:40] <Oblat> Does anyone know how to fix this error? http://paste-it.net/public/ga8e8f5/
[01:40] <epinky> fattom: Ubuntu setting on wpa_supplicant.conf, but I guess you don't use that
[01:40] <Reign2> spaceghostc2c: could you give an example?
[01:40] <lzrdking> the control-tab order in pidgin seems kinda random
[01:40] <snuxoll> Reign2: have your script accept the password from STDIN or as an argument
[01:41] <Flannel> Reign2: What are you trying to accomplish that you need to escilate in the middle of a script?
[01:41] <snuxoll> Reign2: the latter would be easier, and you could run your script like ./myscript `cat mypassword`
[01:41] <goncalo> found it!! now how to ally?
[01:41] <snuxoll> Reign2: Flannel brings up a good point though
[01:41] <Reign2> well I have a script that unmounts cifs shares at shutdown before the network goes down
[01:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> Reign2, you'd need to cat the file containing the password into the script. Like this ./script `cat password.file`
[01:41] <fattom> epinky: I don't know a lot about wireless networking, so if it's not the wireless driver or in the default, I don't have it.
[01:42] <Reign2> but it requires me to echo my root pw
[01:42] <snuxoll> Reign2: urm, why are you handling this in a script?
[01:42] <Axizor> Hey guys... I installed a file which came as a tar.gz file and opened it. How do I compile this so I can run it?
[01:42] <Reign2> is there another way to handle it?
[01:42] <Oblat> Does anyone know how to fix this error? http://paste-it.net/public/ga8e8f5/
[01:43] <snuxoll> Reign2: if you mount a CIFS share with the 'mount' command it will be properly unmounted during shutdown like every other filesystem
[01:43] <fattom> Axizor: are you sure you have to compile it?  A lot of time, it's just untar and run the executable.
[01:43] <holmser> Axizor, unzip it to a directory, then usually type sudo ./configure, then sudo make install
[01:43] <apache> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu. When i try the new kernel i get my computer frozen. When i try my old kernel i get an alert: /dev/disk/by-uuid/ <my uuid> does not exist. When i try a live cd i get : kernel panic not syncing....unable to mountroot fs on unknown block.  Can anyuone solve this? thank you
[01:43] <epinky> Axizor: cd into decompressed directory and read README, it should be ./configure && make && sudo make install
[01:43] <Reign2> unfortunately karmic does not do it properly
[01:43] <Axizor> Alright, thanks :D
[01:43] <Reign2> its a bug thats been around forever
[01:44] <Reign2> the network is shut down before the cifs get umounted
[01:44] <snuxoll> Reign2: odd
[01:44] <gogeta> Reign2: its not a bug its a feature
[01:44] <Reign2> which causes the shutdown to stall
[01:44] <snuxoll> Reign2: might I suggest making an init script then instead
[01:44] <gogeta> lol
[01:44] <fattom> epinky: I DO have wpa_supplicant!!!!!!!  Now, what should I be looking at in it?
[01:44] <snuxoll> Reign2: which are automatically run as rut
[01:44] <snuxoll> *root
[01:44] <Flannel> Reign2: Instead of doing that, use sudo, and put the script in your sudoers file, so you don't need a password for it.
[01:44] <vbabiy> Anyone else having issue after the last gdm upgrade, I can't login to my system just keeps asking me to login
[01:44] <lzrdking> gogeta: how is that not a bug?
[01:44] <vbabiy> I can get in to failsafe gnome but not Gnome
[01:44] <brandon_> i had the same problem vbabiy
[01:45] <brandon_> till i just made it worse
[01:45] <lordganesh> mozilla can't download anything ,,any help
[01:45] <Reign2> can I pastebin the script as it stands now?
[01:45] <vbabiy> brandon_, so no solution
[01:45] <epinky> fattom: can you post your wpa_supplicant.conf ?
[01:45] <lzrdking> i niticed that i get CIFS errors when i reboot my jaunty laptop
[01:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> Reign2, please do
[01:45] <brandon_> heres my situtation
[01:45] <lzrdking> noticed
[01:45] <plitter> k, i've found out that if i import sys and print sys.path i will find what different directories i can put my modules, but i put faktorial.py in the folder that i made and tried from faktorial import * and got error that the module faktorial doesnt exist also tried to put the faktorial.pyc in it but still no effect...
[01:45] <mkquist> are there alot of xserver problems with 9.10?
[01:45] <goncalo> how do i make windows to burn when closed?
[01:45] <fattom> epinky: yeah, give me just a second
[01:45] <brandon_> i put in a new nvidia video card, when i logged in everything turned white, but it worked fine in safe mode
[01:45] <brandon_> so i install envyng-core in safemode
[01:45] <plitter> someone have a good idea?
[01:45] <gogeta> brianchidester_: thats the joke when its a bug they never fix
[01:45] <brandon_> and let it do its thing
[01:45] <lividium> hello all
[01:45] <brandon_> now i cant even get past the ubuntu white boot logo
[01:45] <lzrdking> and it hangs...  my karmic laptop doesn't get gracefully restarted, it's either on, sleeping, or hung and needs a hard reset
[01:45] <synapsys> goncalo, compiz
[01:46] <SpaceGhostC2C> goncalo, I'm sorry can you rephrase your question?
[01:46] <goncalo> i know
[01:46] <switch10_> mkquist: I haven't had any yeat
[01:46] <fattom> epinky: do you know offhand where that is in the filesystem.
[01:46] <switch10_> yet*
[01:46] <Reign2> http://pastebin.com/mcc66280
[01:46] <brandon_> how do i access my temrinal from my livedisk
[01:46] <brandon_> so i can uninstall envyng
[01:46] <brandon_> and hopefully fix it
[01:46] <synapsys> goncalo, open terminal and type ccsm
[01:46] <goncalo> i want to put fire on windows when they close
[01:46] <switch10_> mkquist: I love 9.10
[01:46] <fattom> Reign2 : do you have a /dev/null file?
[01:46] <epinky> fattom: mine is in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:46] <SpaceGhostC2C> goncalo, oh, you mean the burn effect! sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager then in the animations
[01:46]  * Viking667 curses pulseaudio roundly
[01:47] <snuxoll> Viking667: leave PA alone, it never did anything to you
[01:47] <goncalo> it does not aplly :S
[01:47] <gogeta> Viking667: yea i remove that garbage
[01:47] <Viking667> It's (*%@)(*)(*$% useless on any of my machines. Any time I try to run Skype through it, my voice sounds really choppy to anyone else, and their voice all sound choppy.
[01:47]  * dare joins Viking667's pulseaudio cursing
[01:47] <brandon_> i put a nvidia video card in and now once i login the screen turns white, it worked fine in safe mode until i installed envyng-gore now it goes black after the ubuntu boot logo
[01:47] <Viking667> gogeta: heh. I can't remove it.
[01:47] <fattom> epinky: all that's in my /etc/wpa_supplicant folder are three shell scripts
[01:47] <Viking667> several core items seem to depend upon it being installed
[01:47] <vbabiy> brandon_, I would use the default drivers
[01:47] <snuxoll> Viking667: might I suggest getting a less sucky sound chipset?
[01:47] <vbabiy> from jockey
[01:47] <brandon_> i cant get in to switch back vbab
[01:47] <Reign2> fattom: yes
[01:47] <brandon_> and when i did use them
[01:47] <brandon_> thats why the scren went white
[01:48] <Viking667> snuxoll: only if you are willing to buy me a 2008 motherboard or newer...
[01:48] <vbabiy> no sure sorry
[01:48] <vbabiy> not*
[01:48] <SpaceGhostC2C> snuxoll, that isn't at all helpful.
[01:48] <gogeta> Viking667: its just a alisa layer and a rather poor one its supposed to get droped
[01:48] <fattom> Reign2: I'm not very good.  That's all I've got.  Sorry I'm not more help.
[01:48] <brandon_> i put a nvidia video card in and now once i login the screen turns white, it worked fine in safe mode until i installed envyng-core now it goes black after the ubuntu boot logo
[01:48] <brandon_> anyone??
[01:48]  * Viking667 has a pentium 4 mobo (Celeron 2.8GHz), with a VIA chipset
[01:48] <snuxoll> Viking667: any issues anyone has from pulseaudio is because they have some el-cheapo $0.10 HDA chipset on their motherboard.
[01:48] <brandon_> how do i access my terminal from a livedisk
[01:48] <brandon_> so i can undo the envyng shit
[01:48] <snuxoll> brandon_: language please
[01:48] <Viking667> I even stuck in a second sound card (Ensoniq
[01:48] <dare> snuxoll: the issue is still pulseaudio
[01:48] <Reign2> fattom: its fine. Im at a loss too. which is why Im here :)
[01:48] <brandon_> sorry
[01:49] <andre123> need help! all the videos im trying to see (youtube 4 example) are accelerated.. how can i see them in the normal speed? tkz
[01:49] <dare> snuxoll: the hardware doesn't force pulseaudio to perform wrecklessly
[01:49] <con-man> hey guys...I have installed googleearth-package... now what?  Not sure how to build the debian package
[01:49] <ogr3> hey guys! I hope there is some helpful folks can help me get some teaching materials for a ubuntu/foss class. Also looking for 10 or so laptops/netbooks for around $200 a piece if anyone knows any deals. Not making a dime off this just doing it for the people. I really think I bit off more than I can chew as I'm pretty inexperienced myself. so any help would for sure be appreciated
[01:49] <gogeta> snuxoll: ac97 and a hda system
[01:49] <gogeta> the hda woorks
[01:49] <snuxoll> AC97 should work fine
[01:49] <Trustisaweakness> was looking in to adding SMILE slideshow maker but was wondering about removing sox and is all the stuff really worth going through to install it?
[01:49] <vivid> Viking667, i have an ensoniq card too, the mic doesnt work with pulseaudio for some reason
[01:49] <Viking667> This _is_ ac97 on the mobo.
[01:49] <gogeta> yep
[01:49] <fattom> epinky: I found it.  It reads:
[01:49] <fattom> <!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
[01:49] <fattom>  "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN"
[01:49] <fattom>  "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd">
[01:50] <Viking667> Well, I don't know what _doesnt_ work... I'm barely sure of what DOES work.
[01:50] <FloodBot1> fattom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[01:50] <snuxoll> Viking667: you might want to look at your skype settings then
[01:50] <gogeta> ac97 works when i kick it back to alisa
[01:50] <snuxoll> Viking667: not using proprietary clients tends to help too, by the way
[01:50] <epinky> fattom: use pastebin
[01:50] <Viking667> Oh, I finally pointed Skype back at the Ensoniq.
[01:50] <epinky> !pastebin| fattom
[01:50] <con-man> !binary
[01:50] <Viking667> snuxoll: uh, that doesn't work when _nothing_ else connects to skype conferences and audio conferences.
[01:50] <con-man> !bin
[01:51] <epinky> !pastebin> fattom
[01:51] <con-man> hey guys...I have installed googleearth-package... now what?  Not sure how to build the debian package
[01:51] <krazymexican606> hello everyone. i am having a network problem. i have one ubuntu box and one windows 7 computer.when i try to access a shared folder thats on ubuntu it asks for a user name and password. it didnt ask for one b4 until i had a power outage this morning. can anyone help me ?
[01:51] <snuxoll> Viking667: which is why I'm saying skype is bad, mkay?  Seriously though, check your skype settings
[01:51] <snuxoll> Viking667: make sure they're using the PA output and not ALSA
[01:51] <SpaceGhostC2C> Viking667, would you like my help? I can try to figure it out with you.
[01:51] <snuxoll> wait, does skype even have PA support?
[01:51] <Viking667> snuxoll: I did. It now records my audio, and sends it out. It also plays back audio fine... but only if I leave OFF pulseaudio
[01:51] <goncalo> i got jellow windows
[01:51] <fattom> epinky: It's right here.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/338405/
[01:52] <epinky> con-man: chmod 777 GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[01:52] <goncalo> cant get fire yet :S
[01:52] <opticon> i just installed ubuntu 9.1 only i have asus p5q pro motherboard and wondering how do i install audio driver that i downloaded from the asus website for linux?
[01:52] <Viking667> If I use pulseaudio, then my audio sounds really REALLY choppy, and so does any audio played back to me from inside skype.
[01:52] <con-man> epinky, then what
[01:52] <snuxoll> opticon: 9.10, you mean.  Also, you shouldn't need any drivers
[01:52] <epinky> con-man: ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[01:52] <con-man> epinky, ty
[01:52] <h00k> does anyone know if there is an alternative to xmove?
[01:52] <Viking667> ... what _is_ xmove?
[01:52] <snuxoll> h00k: someone made what is essentially screen for X not to long ago
[01:53] <gogeta> Viking667: death to unnessery layers and cpu hogging junk
[01:53] <h00k> snuxoll: interesting, do you know what it is called?
[01:53] <Viking667> snuxoll: huh? vnc?
[01:53] <opticon> hmm well audio doesnt seem to work
[01:53] <John__> I'm tryiing to edit a linux boot cd, not a ubuntu one, and the .squashfs file is the biggest and presumably wehre all fo the files are kept, but I don't know how to edit it, is it compiled or is there a way to like decompress it or somethign
[01:53] <snuxoll> h00k: not for the life of me
[01:53] <snuxoll> Viking667: no
[01:53] <jrib> h00k, snuxoll: xpra
[01:53] <h00k> Viking667: this would allow you to drag an application across x servers
[01:53] <snuxoll> jrib: danke
[01:53] <h00k> jrib: thank you, I'll look into this
[01:53] <h00k> snuxoll: thanks for the info, also
[01:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> h00k, look into synergy.
[01:53] <Viking667> hey, NICE!
[01:53] <epinky> fattom: not that, it should look like : http://www.y3m.net/docs/gentoo-on-t42/configs/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:53] <Reign2> so anyone have any idea about that umount cifs script?
[01:54] <Viking667> oh. I couldn't get my head around synergy
[01:54] <h00k> SpaceGhostC2C: yeah, I do have that, but I'd like to move applications across, also
[01:54] <John__> no ideas?
[01:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> h00k, xforwarding maybe?:
[01:55] <h00k> SpaceGhostC2C: of sorts
[01:56] <opticon> u where right didnt need driver
[01:56] <opticon> audio works
[01:56] <dare> hm, nautilus and mounted cifs shares suck.. as soon as I switch to another network where the share is inaccessible nautilus will never start again...and all current nautilus instances crash
[01:56] <epinky> fattom: have you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs#Hardware
[01:56] <apache> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu. When i try the new kernel i get my computer frozen. When i try my old kernel i get an alert: /dev/disk/by-uuid/ <my uuid> does not exist. When i try a live cd i get : kernel panic not syncing....unable to mountroot fs on unknown block.  Can anyuone solve this? thank you
[01:57] <fattom> epinky: that's the first time I've seen THAT page.  I'll have a look at it and do some more homework.  I'm very grateful for being pointed towards a legitimate possibility, though.
[01:57] <burkmat_> When moving large files to a TrueCrypt container, everything goes to hell and I need to reboot it. Tried using `nice` to alter the priority of the move process, but the process spiking appears to be the kcryptd. Any suggestions? Is this unique for TC or will I face the same issues using other software?
[01:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> Reign2, do you still need help?
[01:57] <opticon> can anyone recommend xvid codec pack?
[01:58] <Reign2> yes
[01:58] <SpaceGhostC2C> Reign2, may I send you a private message?
[01:58] <Reign2> sure
[01:58] <Kamokow> I shrunk the partition ubuntu is installed in so I could use the extra space for a new partition, however the unpartitioned space is stuck in the extended partition, like I cant resize the extended partition at all. Help?
[01:59] <Adam75> I've been thinking about a thing with my UNR on my laptop. When I watch flashmovies and exit the page. The sound stays for 5-10 seconds
[01:59] <ozair> hi guys
[01:59] <ozair> k so wat i want to know
[01:59] <ozair> is
[01:59] <epinky> fattom: going my way will not be standard, I've compiled supplicant from source against atheros drivers source code. But there are good howtos there, I'm sure one will work for you :)
[02:00] <ozair> Arch Linux vs. Ubuntu
[02:00] <dare> Adam75: what cpu does your laptop have?
[02:00] <Adam75> dare; intel atom I belive
[02:00] <fattom> epinky: you compiled supplicant?
[02:00] <dare> Adam75: there's the problem, it's slow unloading the flash plugin I guess
[02:00] <Viking667> xmove.... hmmm.
[02:00] <epinky> fattom: yes, but just for fun :)
[02:00] <ozair> u know for netbooks
[02:00] <lstarnes> ozair: afaik, this channel is not for compating ubuntu to other distributions (and most people here would say ubuntu is better anyay).  Try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic, #archlinux-offtopic, or ##linux
[02:01] <Viking667> I can't find it in any of the Ubuntu repositories. Another tarball+make+makeinstall, I guess.
[02:01] <ozair> windows 7 basic is coming out
[02:01] <Adam75> dare; I thought so too. Don't really care but I came to think about it
[02:01] <Madpilot> Anyone know where the heck gnome-panel hides it's settings file?
[02:01] <ozair> :)
[02:01] <ozair> k
[02:01] <ozair> so
[02:01] <oldtopman> just looking from a ds, not here for help
[02:01] <ozair> can someone tell me??/
[02:01] <Viking667> Madpilot: look under .gconf/apps/panel
[02:01] <dare> ozair: ubuntu if you don't want to waste hours/days getting arch to ubuntu's functionality
[02:01] <ozair> which is better
[02:01] <burkmat_> !best | ozair
[02:01] <Madpilot> Viking667, thnx
[02:01] <Viking667> Madpilot: also look under .gnome2/panel2.d
[02:01] <fattom> epinky: I'm on an asus aspire one, and when I first got it, the only driver that I could get to work at all was ath5k, and it works only on Linksys routers.
[02:01] <ozair> eeew
[02:01] <ozair> k
[02:01] <Viking667> (that'll provide the links to applications running from that panel)
[02:01] <ozair> arc sounds like garbage
[02:01] <ozair> :P
[02:01] <ozair> im new with linux
[02:02] <ozair> :P
[02:02] <FloodBot1> ozair: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <ozair> so complicated *sigh*
[02:02] <Coded1> ozair, go gentoo!
[02:02] <Viking667> Madpilot: you may want to use gconf-editor
[02:02] <Madpilot> Viking667, thanks, having a strange bug w/ gnome-panel not starting properly on boot, going to can all the customizations and see if that sorts it
[02:02] <lstarnes> ozair: arch is more aimed towards experienced users
[02:02] <Viking667> Madpilot: heh.
[02:02] <ozair> lol ok
[02:02] <dare> ozair: arch also uses very unstable packages in its repositories, and your video drivers have a high chance of not working with the version of xorg in the repos
[02:02] <ozair> also
[02:03] <Madpilot> Viking667, or at least isolates which applet is hanging up... :P
[02:03] <ozair> i am having the biggest problems ever with networking
[02:03] <Viking667> Madpilot: I got great success when I simply scrapped what I had
[02:03] <John__> I'm tryiing to edit a linux boot cd, not a ubuntu one, and the .squashfs file is the biggest and presumably wehre all fo the files are kept, but I don't know how to edit it, is it compiled or is there a way to like decompress it or somethign
[02:03] <Viking667> Anyhow, I'm outta here.
[02:03] <ozair> k so i have a main computer in my basement equipped with windows 7
[02:04] <ozair> and i have this comp with xubuntu
[02:04] <ozair> so the problem: SAMBA
[02:04] <jMyles> !ubuntu-one
[02:04] <jMyles> Isn't there an Ubuntu-one channel?
[02:04] <epinky> fattom: it would be very helpful to run wpa_supplicant from command line with -dd flag(verbose mode) to see what happens, anyway read that docs to have a better idea of what could be the problem :)
[02:04] <ozair> i don't know how to configure it....even if i could just set up a printing server that would be great :)
[02:04] <qwyeth> ozair, samba isn't a problem, it's a solution :D
[02:05] <ozair> LOL, but its complicated
[02:05] <fattom> epinky: Will Do.  thanks a million for the assist.
[02:05] <ozair> and ive tried 100000000 times
[02:05] <roygbiv> wow, dnsmasq is awesome
[02:05] <qwyeth> ozair, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[02:05] <epinky> fattom: you're welcome
[02:05] <dare> ozair: and samba likes to even ignore it's own configuration options sometimes
[02:05] <ozair> okie thanks :)
[02:06] <ozair> wow this chat is really helpful :P
[02:06] <peng888> hello. I did something on my asus laptop, and the multimedia combinations of "fn_key+sound_volume_up/down" stopped working. Can you advice me on getting that back?
[02:07] <Kamokow> I shrunk my the ext4 partition in my extended partition (the one with ubuntu on it (9.10)), however I cant shrink the extended volume to get the unallocated space out of the extended partition. Any ideas? :-/
[02:08] <qwyeth> ozair, also, I haven't really done samba in xubuntu, but you may want to give ubuntu a shot... file and printer sharing in the 'regular' edition is a snap... just a few easy, intuitive clicks, and in my experience it 'just works' when viewing the shares from xp and vista (haven't tried 7 but expect it's just as easy)
[02:08] <spvensko> am i just crazy or is gparted no longer in the repos? was it replaced with something?
[02:08] <roygbiv> anyone heard of corruption issues with 9.10 + ext4 + SATA?
[02:08] <dare> spvensko: it's in the karmic repos
[02:08] <ozair> ubuntu was so SLOW :(
[02:08] <ozair> thats y i put xubuntu
[02:08] <peng888> Kamokow, unmounted everything?
[02:08] <ozair> it uses less resources
[02:08] <Kamokow> peng888: yes I have unmounted everything, still doesnt work.
[02:09] <moymoy> qwyeth: thanks. I guess i don't need it. I just wanted to update my chromium snapshot without using the chromium PPA.. also wanted to save some bandwidth
[02:09] <qwyeth> ozair, I understand, I've used the xfce version for the same reasons... did you try turning off all desktop effects in ubuntu though?
[02:09] <ozair> yea i did that, it was still slow
[02:10] <qwyeth> *nods*
[02:10] <peng888> Kamokow, I think i had done that for myself and it worked before. and I am new to ubuntu.  what step is not working?
[02:10] <peng888> hello. I did something on my asus laptop, and the multimedia combinations of "fn_key+sound_volume_up/down" stopped working. Can you advice me on getting that back?
[02:10] <ozair> well here are the soecs on my comp: i have a pentium 3 processor, and a 8 gb (EEEEW) hard drive and also 756 mb of ram ( ithink) but that could not be true cause its so SLOW
[02:10] <ozair> oh and its a dell optiplex GX1
[02:10] <preecher> my office (small hotel) runs on windows xp and i have a security camera system installed on that computer-however all my personal laptops only have ubuntu--if i set up a VPN on the office windows machine will/can i log into that from my ubuntu laptops when i am at home?
[02:11] <Kamokow> peng888: I have the unallocated space, i right click, open the Resize/Move dialouge, but I cant move the slider (in either direction)
[02:11] <roygbiv> i'm a horribly lame idiot with no sense of style, and windows 7 was my idea
[02:11] <vbabiy> any one figure out the gdm issue
[02:11] <ozair> excuse u, windows 7 looks WAYYYY better than linux :P
[02:12] <ozair> thats one of the resons i dont like linux, UGLY ddesktops :(
[02:12] <zerq> wat
[02:12] <Emiliano> ugly desktops?
[02:12] <spvensko> ozair: if you are using linux for aesthetic purposes then you're using it for the wrong purposes
[02:12] <Emiliano> I wish it's an irony
[02:12] <ozair> that was directed to roygbiv
[02:12] <spvensko> the benefits of linux should outweigh the ugliness of its desktops
[02:12] <zerq> linux desktops can look awesome imo
[02:12] <Kamokow> Also, you CAN make linux look better with a little bit of work...
[02:12] <dare> gnome is pretty elegant and functional imo.. win7 still doesn't have tabbed file explorer!
[02:12] <spvensko> oh hehe
[02:13] <zerq> although the defaults are generally not very pretty
[02:13] <ozair> thats true zerq
[02:13] <Emiliano> ozair: Try KDE 4
[02:13] <peng888> Kamokow, are you using LiveCD(that's what i'd try)? and try adjusting the numbers manually... a i remember some sliders not moving. there's nothing wrong i'd guess, just need to look carefulle at what you're trying to do... i wish i could see your system.
[02:13] <mkquist> i dont agree,itcan bemade tolook any way u want
[02:13] <spvensko> btw ty dare, i am able to dl gparted now :)
[02:13] <peng888> Kamokow, how to make linux look better, what you mean? i wanna do that...
[02:13] <ozair> but u have to install cairo dock, themes , wallpapers, icons
[02:13] <dare> spvensko: excellent
[02:13] <Kamokow> peng888: Yes liveCD, and i cant change the numbers either
[02:13] <qwyeth> spvensko, I STRONGLY disagree that aesthetics are the wrong reason to make a decision on a desktop system.  'Aesthetics' doesn't just mean appearance, mind you... it's about overall comfort to use
[02:13] <dare> ozair: there are distributions other than ubuntu which have a better-looking interface out of the box
[02:14] <preecher> im using the cairo dock and a firefox wallpaper and im prettier than any window
[02:14] <ozair> LOL
[02:14] <opticon> default look with ubuntu isnt bad just customize theme to your liking
[02:14] <peng888> "excuse u, windows 7 looks WAYYYY better than linux :P"/// GUYS! they are both customizable.
[02:15] <ozair> cairo dock slowed my ubuntu down even more, so i had to uninstall\
[02:15] <zerq> true but windows less so
[02:15] <dare> I don't know.. ubuntu still has no "soul"
[02:15] <ozair> :(
[02:15] <dare> other than the marketing material on the web..
[02:15] <zerq> windows you can change the theme.. sort of, but even that is limited
[02:15] <ctmjr> !ot
[02:15] <peng888> dare, gnome has tabbed file explorer?
[02:15] <dare> peng888: nautilus supports tabs, ctrl+t
[02:15] <Kamokow> peng888: Yes? Its on by default...
[02:15] <ozair> REALLLY?
[02:15] <John__> is there an "autoexec.bat" file that I can put on a usb drive that will run when I put in my usb drive?
[02:15] <ozair> omg i didnt know that :P
[02:15] <Kamokow> Or wait... unless I misunderstood what he meant
[02:16] <epinky> ozair: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective
[02:16] <preecher> my office (small hotel) runs on windows xp and i have a security camera system installed on that computer-however all my personal laptops only have ubuntu--if i set up a VPN on the office windows machine will/can i log into that from my ubuntu laptops when i am at home?
[02:16] <peng888> Kamokow, dare, wow, thank you, i had no idea, that's so cool)))
[02:16] <dare> peng888: there's ctrl+w for closing tab, ctrl+page up/down for switching tabs
[02:16] <bdelin88> will this guide help me use a usb stick as a live cd for ubuntu? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html
[02:16] <peng888> hello. I did something on my asus laptop, and the multimedia combinations of "fn_key+sound_volume_up/down" stopped working. Can you advice me on getting that back?
[02:17] <John__> is there an "autoexec.bat" file that I can put on a usb drive that will run when I put in my usb drive?
[02:17] <ozair> epinky: huh?
[02:17] <peng888> 1370 users, cmooon.... please...
[02:17] <dare> peng888: Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[02:17] <ozair> i want a dell adamo so badly :(
[02:18] <apache> Hello,  i have both windows and ubuntu installed on my computer. It has been ok till some days before. Now i cant open neither windows or ubuntu. When i try to open ubuntu with the first kernel 2.6.27-15-generic i get the computer blocked. If i try to open the old kernel 2.6.27-7-generic  i get the message  [U]/dev/disk/by-uuid/..(numbers: i think is the UUId adress)..  does not exist[/U]  If i try access with a live cd to get my 
[02:18] <peng888> dare, the thing is that everything worked, but i tried to delete pulseaudio, then i got it back on, but the buttons are still not working. and the working buttons are the only thing pusleaudio does for me really.
[02:18] <dare> peng888: oh, I don't know a solution sorry
[02:20] <vbabiy_> Nothing I am trying is working, I keep getting the gdm login screen. I can login to failsafe mode but not gnome proper.
[02:21] <arooni-mobile2> hi folks!  having trouble mounting /dev/md1 as my home partition.  md1 is a raid 1 device across two hard drives.  running karmic.  i changed nothing except for the locatoin of the PC (moved it without dropping it).  now when i try to mount /dev/md1 i see: "EXT3-fs: unable to read spuerblock; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mda1" ....   what should i do now?
[02:21] <Kamokow> Oh wait, I just read something saying to get my problem to get fixed, I should temporarily delete my swap partition
[02:23] <brandon_> i put a nvidia video card in and now once i login the screen turns white, it worked fine in safe mode until i installed envyng-core now it goes black after the ubuntu boot logo
[02:23] <jedi06> how do you use svn to move some files to another a subdir? svn move -m "Moving to trunk"  trunk/
[02:23] <peng888> dare, here's a funny thing i just discovered... when I click on the sound applet and see the manual switch for volume, the sound up-down doesn't work. but when i quit the applet it does, as normally, i just didn't realize that....
[02:23] <jedi06> svn move -m "Moving to trunk" *.* trunk/
[02:23] <darcy> Hello all can someone please tell me how to get my monitor to run in 1280x1024 ? My monitor can handle it but nvidia-settings will not let me run it?
[02:23] <dare> peng888: yeah, same behaviour here
[02:24] <brandon_> i put a nvidia video card in and now once i login the screen turns white, it worked fine in safe mode until i installed envyng-core now it goes black after the ubuntu boot logo
[02:24] <brandon_> :(
[02:24] <raptornv> saludos linuxeros
[02:24] <bdelin88> how do i set the bootable flag using fdisk for my device /dev/sda1 ?
[02:24] <bdelin88> sry, sde1
[02:24] <dare> salados raptornv
[02:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> Is it possible as of yet, to watch netlix on ubuntu? Without the use of virtual machines, preferably.
[02:25] <raptornv> problema: monte mi home en la particion equivocada, con gparted cree una nueva particion, quiero migrar toda mi carpeta personal alli
[02:25] <bdelin88> anyone/
[02:25] <raptornv> alguien con experiencia en el caso'
[02:25] <dare> !es | raptornv
[02:25] <brandon_> i put a nvidia video card in and now once i login the screen turns white, it worked fine in safe mode until i installed envyng-core now it goes black after the ubuntu boot logo
[02:26] <peng888> guys, i have a question, it's about using compiz. my laptop is 1.66 core 2 duo, 64bit ubuntu, i tried using the compiz 3d effects, and i noticed, that when the cpu is under some load (just working with firefox), when i try to minimize-maximize windows, the effect of compiz would freeze for some portion of a second. why would that be? it's especially interesting since my video card is nvidia, and it's pretty strong to cope with that, and in new W
[02:26] <peng888> ind7 the animations work fine... any idea? how does compiz perform for you?
[02:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> peng888, by "some load" What do you mean? peaked?
[02:28] <raptornv> ok
[02:28] <raptornv> sorry all
[02:28] <raptornv> see you later
[02:28] <peng888> SpaceGhostc2c, no, as i said - just in browsing with firefox, i would see the effects to freeze as if the processor was really loaded or whatnot...
[02:29] <swaj> peng888: did you install the restricted nvidia drivers?  the compiz effects have more to do with your video card/drivers than they do with CPU
[02:29] <brandon_> i put a nvidia video card in and now once i login the screen turns white, it worked fine in safe mode until i installed envyng-core now it goes black after the ubuntu boot logo
[02:29] <brandon_> ok
[02:29] <darcy> Hello all can someone please tell me how to get my monitor to run in 1280x1024 ? My monitor can handle it but nvidia-settings will not let me run it?
[02:29] <brandon_> my GRUB wont let me go into terminal mode
[02:29] <brandon_> or whatever
[02:29] <rstob911> peng888: do you have the latest drivers for nvidia dont know if this would be an issue
[02:29] <brandon_> it says GRUB Loading
[02:29] <brandon_> for a second
[02:29] <peng888> swaj, yes, without the restricted ones compiz would not even run
[02:29] <FloodBot1> brandon_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:29] <brandon_> then starts to load
[02:30] <peng888> rstob, the latest available from ubuntu program. they are pretty recent.
[02:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> peng888, if your processor is running high, then it is logical to have performance issues. If I still do not understand what you mean, please rephrase as I'd love to help you with your issue.
[02:30] <brandon_> i put a nvidia video card in and now once i login the screen turns white, it worked fine in safe mode until i installed envyng-core now it goes black after the ubuntu boot logo - i cannot seem to find a way to use grub to get into command line mode - it just says grub loading for a quick moment then continues to load, any suggestions?
[02:31] <opticon> for ati 48x series video cards how often are those drivers undated for ubuntu?
[02:31] <peng888> SpaceGhostc2c, what kind of a computer do you need for compiz to run perfectly? like in "minimal requirements"
[02:31] <jedi06> what is the svn gui for ubuntu?
[02:32] <SpaceGhostC2C> !compiz | peng888
[02:32] <rstob911> peng888: how much memory do you have cause a laptop uses shared memory
[02:32] <brandon_> i put a nvidia video card in and now once i login the screen turns white, it worked fine in safe mode until i installed envyng-core now it goes black after the ubuntu boot logo - i cannot seem to find a way to use grub to get into command line mode - it just says grub loading for a quick moment then continues to load, any suggestions?
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[02:33] <FloodBot1> Kontopoutano: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <markw1> Does anyone know why sites might be redirecting me to the google search page?  I've removed all proxy software, I've even changed to OpenDNS on my router, reinstalled anything related to DHCP and DNS as well.  Most sites work fine, some won't work for awhile and then start working.
[02:34] <Adam75> Whats the adress to the ubuntu off topic channel?
[02:34] <Flannel> Adam75: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:34] <brandon_> i put a nvidia video card in and now once i login the screen turns white, it worked fine in safe mode until i installed envyng-core now it goes black after the ubuntu boot logo - i cannot seem to find a way to use grub to get into command line mode - it just says grub loading for a quick moment then continues to load, any suggestions?
[02:34] <|2448|Script> Hello
[02:34] <brandon_> nobody knows hot to fix grub?
[02:34] <peng888> SpaceGhostc2c, how do i use that link? i don't see the requirement there...
[02:34] <D4e5> Hello
[02:34] <D4e5> I need help
[02:34] <rstob911> brandon_: if you cant get into  even the command line you may need to at least reinstall and dont format /home and you wont lose anything
[02:35] <epinky> darcy: this could help http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3104129.0
[02:35] <peng888> rstob911, won't he still loose most of the additional software installed?
[02:35] <brandon_> rstob theres no way or hotkeys
[02:35] <brandon_> to just get into command line
[02:35] <brandon_> and undo the envycore thing
[02:35] <D4e5> Hello I need hep
[02:36] <SpaceGhostC2C> !enter | brandon_
[02:36] <darcy> epinky, I can use xrandr when I try to use 1680x1050 it says no modes available do you know where I can set that mode?
[02:36] <brandon_> spaceghost you can type out that command but you cant even attempt to answer my question??
[02:36] <brandon_> that seems like a dickmove
[02:36] <bdelin88> hey i am having trouble installing portable linux, can anyone help me?  I want to install jaunty on my usb
[02:36] <swaj> I wonder why KDE even bothers with konqueror anymore...
[02:36] <D4e5> I need help please
[02:37] <peng888> d4e5 ask questions, and see if anyone will respond, hopefully you'll get help
[02:37] <Flannel> brandon_: ctrl-alt-f1 will get you to a terminal
[02:37] <trimeta> Quick problem: sshfs is giving me an error reading "option allow_other only allowed if 'user_allow_other' is set in /etc/fuse.conf", even after I modified the specified file as requested and then logged out and logged back in. Is there something else I need to start, some module I need to remove and readd to the kernel?
[02:37] <brandon_> from where?
[02:37] <brandon_> the grub loading screen?
[02:37] <epinky> darcy: on that thread it set that on xorg.conf but you need to use http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl to calculate values
[02:37] <brandon_> or the boot logo?
[02:37] <arthurjohnson> Is there anything in Compiz that will take a group of windows and evenly tile them on a screen?
[02:37] <brandon_> sorry, enter
[02:37] <trimeta> brandon_: When you're in Gnome/KDE.
[02:38] <Flannel> brandon_: Once its finished booting (black screen)
[02:38] <peng888> rsot911, i have 3gb ram ddr2 if that's what you are asking...
[02:38] <trimeta> That too.
[02:38] <brandon_> i tried that and it didnt seem to work
[02:38] <brandon_> did you read my whole problem?
[02:38] <brandon_> i put a nvidia video card in and now once i login the screen turns white, it worked fine in safe mode until i installed envyng-core now it goes black after the ubuntu boot logo - i cannot seem to find a way to use grub to get into command line mode - it just says grub loading for a quick moment then continues to load, any suggestions?
[02:38] <brandon_> thats the whole problem
[02:38] <SpaceGhostC2C> !enter | brandon_
[02:38] <Flannel> SpaceGhostC2C: Please stop that
[02:38] <Dupont> damn man
[02:39] <Dupont> all tht I typed n i got disconnected
[02:39] <brandon_> so what do you think Flannel? and thank you for taking the time to try to answer my question
[02:39] <Flannel> brandon_: I did.  You don't need to repeat it.  You need to hit escape to view the menu, but ctrl-alt-f1 (or f2, f3, etc try at least two) should work from your black screen
[02:39] <SpaceGhostC2C> Flannel, isn't he supposed to not use enter as punctuation?
[02:39] <apache> Hello,  i have both windows and ubuntu installed on my computer. It has been ok till some days before. Now i cant open neither windows or ubuntu. When i try to open ubuntu with the first kernel 2.6.27-15-generic i get the computer blocked. If i try to open the old kernel 2.6.27-7-generic  i get the message  [U]/dev/disk/by-uuid/..(numbers: i think is the UUId adress)..  does not exist[/U]  If i try access with a live cd to get my 
[02:40] <brandon_> hitting escape brought up the terminal for a second flannel
[02:40] <brandon_> but ill try your method again
[02:40] <Flannel> SpaceGhostC2C: He's making an effort to do so, it's hard to unlearn enter
[02:40] <brandon_> yea i apolgiize
[02:40] <brandon_> jsut frustrated
[02:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> Flannel, I must be confused, I thought it was polite to not use a line per sentence. It sorta floods the channel from my point of view. I'll just let it be, no worries.
[02:40] <Flannel> brandon_: escape before the loading screen (once you're there its too far)
[02:41] <peng888> let's try another question... guys, can you tell me how to install the latest nvidia drivers? they don't have a .deb package.
[02:41] <epinky> apache: could you post your error ?
[02:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> !nvidia | peng888
[02:41] <D4e5_1> !nvidia
[02:42] <D4e5_1> !nvidia D4e5
[02:42] <Flannel> SpaceGhostC2C: If you're confused, please review http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct, if you're still confused, I'll be glad to explain it to you in more detail in -offtopic or #ubuntu-ops, this channel doesn't need the extra noise
[02:42] <apache> epinky, hi, i have a problem with ubuntu. When i try the new kernel i get my computer frozen. When i try my old kernel i get an alert: /dev/disk/by-uuid/ <my uuid> does not exist. When i try a live cd i get : kernel panic not syncing....unable to mountroot fs on unknown block.  Can anyuone solve this? thank you
[02:42] <micahfrost> can anyone lend me a hand with tomcat6?
[02:43] <Kamokow> I got the partition to shrink, however now in the root of /dev/sda/ I have 2 unallocated partitions (in the root) and I cant merge them together, even if i make one of them into a partition, and try to add the other unallocated space :-/ (one is below my extended partition, and above everything else, the other is at the very bottom)
[02:43] <epinky> apache: can you copy your error as it is? word by word?
[02:43] <nikolas_> hello.
[02:43] <brandon_> nothing happens when i hit esc at the loading screen flannel, and control + alt + f1 at the boot logo just made it go black quicker i think
[02:43] <brandon_> it let me into the terminal before by hitting esc
[02:44] <Flannel> brandon_: Right, during the boot it won't do much, but after it finishes it will.  Try f2/f3 as well as f1.
[02:44] <brandon_> i did
[02:44] <Flannel> brandon_: And it remains just black?  no prompt?
[02:45] <brandon_> thats right flannel
[02:45] <apache> epinky,  cannot find root device   alert /dev/disk/by-uuid/4edc40ac95b34ecb9511ba6e6ce0ed59 does not exist  dropping to a shell
[02:45] <brandon_> and the GRUB loading thing doesnt seem to stay up long enough
[02:45] <brandon_> for me to hit escape
[02:45] <brandon_> is there any easier way to fix it from a live cd
[02:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> Flannel, I read the link again. Would you mind PM'ing me so I can be a better help? I'd feel rather childish to have you explain it to me in #ubuntu-offtopic. It'd also make me feel like I had done something horrendously bad if it were in #ubuntu-ops. I'm not trying to be rude.
[02:46] <epinky> apache: is this your post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1350943
[02:46] <brandon_> like logging into my user name via the terminal and undoing the damage envyng has done
[02:46] <apache> epinky, yes
[02:46] <Flannel> brandon_: Alright, if that won't work, you need to get to a prompt via GRUB.  Try hitting escape (not too fast) as soon as you POST.  Getting to the GRUB menu is the easiest way.
[02:46] <brandon_> yea i figured that, i know the command i gotta run to fix envyng
[02:46] <Flannel> brandon_: Yeah, you can.  But it's easier to just get in this way, this shouldn't be as difficult as it is.
[02:47] <Fezzler> Any know how to record from computer (YouTube) in Audacity?  I see where it say select "Stereo Mix" but that item isn't there in my install
[02:47] <brandon_> should i plug the monitor back into my ati card, even though installing nvidia drivers is what messed it up?
[02:47] <brandon_> the ati card is integrated, the nvidia one is pci
[02:47] <Flannel> brandon_: Er... What monitor... ah
[02:47] <Flannel> brandon_: Yes, do that.
[02:47] <brandon_> ok brb
[02:47] <volcom> hola
[02:47] <Flannel> brandon_: ctrl-alt-f1 might work with that as well.
[02:48] <peng888> guys, how would you recommend to improve the looks of my gnome desktop?
[02:48] <epinky> apache: why you can not boot live cd?
[02:48] <apache> epinky, i get kernel panic error
[02:48] <SpaceGhostC2C> peng888, I think that's a offtopic sort of question.
[02:49] <apache> epinky, i used ubuntu live cd and slax. Maybe i have to use another
[02:49] <Guest9887> HI.    I am installing kubuntu.   i have to add a windows driver for my wireless card.  can anyone say the kde equivalent of ndiswrapper from gnome?
[02:49] <epinky> apache: is your live cd Karmic? 2.6.27 is a bit outdated :)
[02:50] <apache> epinky: i used the last version 9.10  Maybe i have a problem with ramdisk
[02:51] <brandon_> flannel same problem
[02:51] <brandon_> i took out the nvidia card cmopletely
[02:51] <brandon_> and just used the original one
[02:51] <brandon_> is there anyway to edit grub to just boot into command line by default
[02:51] <brandon_> cuz it wont let me do anything when im at the GRUB Loading thing, do i hit esc when it says that or right after that?
[02:51] <apache> epinky: or the filesystem. How can i kno the root of filesystem with grub commands?
[02:52] <D4e5_1> I think I made some changes in video settings, and after that I restarted my computer, and ...
[02:52] <D4e5_1> this is how it loads
[02:52] <D4e5_1> First it shows ubuntu logo for few seconds
[02:52] <D4e5_1> than it shows black screen with blinking (-) dash on top left corner, and it is stuck there nothing happens
[02:52] <D4e5_1> if I press power button on my laptop
[02:52] <FloodBot1> D4e5_1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <D4e5_1> screen goes pink, whole screen goes blank pink
[02:52] <D4e5_1> {O}kay 
[02:52] <Viking667> hi all. What the *()&@%)% is a "I/O possible" error?
[02:53] <D4e5_1> {L}âUghîñ Ôut £òU{Ð}
[02:53] <epinky> apache: I think you can't, however I suggest you to use an 8.10 LIVE CD,  Karmic(9.10) will install Grub2
[02:53] <D4e5_1> please help me in this thread.. http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8472549#post8472549
[02:54] <brandon_> flannel :(
[02:54] <Flannel> brandon_: Hit escape twice a second after your POST screen
[02:54] <brandon_> thats the bios logo right
[02:54] <brandon_> or pc logo
[02:55] <brandon_> the one that asks yhou to hit a key to enter setup or whatever
[02:55] <Flannel> brandon_: Either one.  You jsut don't want to do it too soon or some BIOSes will assume you have a stuck key and ignore it
[02:55] <brandon_> ah ok
[02:55] <ae86-drifter> i just installed nvidia drivers now my ubuntu will not boot up
[02:55] <ae86-drifter> all i get is the command line
[02:56] <brian_> Beautiful
[02:56] <D4e5_1> please help me in this thread.. http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8472549#post8472549
[02:56] <epinky> apache: with an 8.10 LIVE CD you could follow this  guide to reinstall grub http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[02:56] <Flannel> brandon_: But, you can use a liveCD (or an alternate CD) to boot and fix stuff, yeah.  Is this a fresh install of 9.10? or did you upgrade to it, or is it an older version?
[02:57] <D4e5_1> wht is difference between ubuntu & kubuntu
[02:57] <ae86-drifter> kde/gnome
[02:57] <Kamokow> kde and gnome
[02:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> D4e5_1, desktop environment.
[02:57] <ae86-drifter> kubuntu is like vista for linux
[02:57] <Kamokow> however, you CAN install kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu, and vice versa.
[02:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> ae86-drifter, I disagree.
[02:57] <apache> epinky, thank you
[02:57] <ae86-drifter> SpaceGhostC2C, it uses enough resources
[02:58] <brandon_> ok flannel
[02:58] <brandon_> im at the menu
[02:58] <brandon_> finally
[02:58] <brandon_> had to time esc just right
[02:58] <epinky> apache: you're welcome
[02:58] <FloodBot1> brandon_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <brandon_> sorry for that enter thing
[02:58] <brandon_> im just excited, now what Flannel?
[02:58] <Flannel> brandon_: Recovery console will get you a prompt
[02:58] <ae86-drifter> gnome is alot better than the new kde
[02:59] <Guest32357> hi.  could anyone help me get my kubuntu wireless going?
[02:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> !better | ae86-drifter
[02:59] <ae86-drifter> select wireless and turn it on
[02:59] <Flannel> Guest32357: #kubuntu might be able to help you more efficiently
[02:59] <ae86-drifter> SpaceGhostC2C, in my opinion
[02:59] <D4e5_1> SpaceGhostC2C wht do you mean by tht
[02:59] <Guest32357> flannel: thanks
[03:00] <D4e5_1> SpaceGhostC2C: wht do you mean by tht
[03:00] <brandon_> ok im at the prompt flannel
[03:00] <brandon_> netroot
[03:00] <ae86-drifter> SpaceGhostC2C prefers kde, as he has a supercomputer
[03:00] <Flannel> ae86-drifter: I think he was attempting to mention that the "gnome vs kde" thing is offtopic (As it's not support) so you should continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:00] <IkoniaISaBITCH> [04:56] [474] IkoniaISaBITCH #xubuntu You're banned from that channel
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[03:00] <IkoniaISaBITCH> [04:58] [474] IkoniaISaBITCH #kubuntu You're banned from that channel
[03:00] <FloodBot1> IkoniaISaBITCH: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <ae86-drifter> hahahaha
[03:00] <brandon_> should i reconfigure xserver or whatever flannel?
[03:00] <Flannel> brandon_: Now you do whatever command you were going to do to fix it.
[03:01] <brandon_> it doesnt seem to see the file i installed
[03:01] <brandon_> envyng
[03:01] <brandon_> or whatever
[03:01] <D4e5_1> dudee this channel bot is getting irriated
[03:01] <Flannel> brandon_: What do you mean?  Did you install envy from the repositories?
[03:01] <LinuxN3wb> Hey I have a set up of 3 monitors, 2 of which are in twinview and 1 as a separate X screen... However, the problem is that the two twinview monitors are stretched, as in it shows up as one large monitor instead of two separate monitors.
[03:01] <brandon_> yes
[03:01] <SpaceGhostC2C> ae86-drifter, I'd be very verbose about it being your opinion and that it isn't necessarily the best for every user. ps, I don't think it matters much that you have a computer with lots of resources, at least not to me.
[03:01] <LinuxN3wb> I couldn't figure out how to fix this :X
[03:01] <brandon_> envycore-ore i believe
[03:01] <brandon_> err
[03:01] <brandon_> envyng-core
[03:01] <LinuxN3wb> Any ideas?
[03:02] <ae86-drifter> SpaceGhostC2C, resources are very precious on a 486
[03:02] <Flannel> brandon_: Right.  I believe (I've never used envy) that the envy program installs drivers from elsewhere and as such, you can't remove those drivers through package management (removing envy just removes envy, not the drivers)
[03:02] <sixtila> php help needed with reading xml using simplexml_load_file
[03:02] <Flannel> sixtila: Try ##php
[03:02] <brandon_> theres a commnand inside of envy, flannel
[03:02] <brandon_> to undo all that it did
[03:03] <brandon_> but i cant seem to access it maybe i typed it wrong
[03:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> ae86-drifter, so I'd be very careful about saying that kde is best. I'd present it and inform them about it's resource requirements as you see them.
[03:03] <Flannel> ae86-drifter, SpaceGhostC2C: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[03:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> Flannel, yessir.
[03:03] <sixtila> the server is having headache today!! nothing shows up
[03:03] <ae86-drifter> sorry, lets just leave it at gnomes better
[03:03] <LinuxN3wb> I guess no one likes to mess with xorg.conf eh?
[03:03] <LinuxN3wb> :(
[03:04] <freetown2> LinuxN3wb, why would you want to do that?
[03:04] <ae86-drifter> cp xorg.conf.backup xorg.conf
[03:04] <Flannel> brandon_: tab complete might come in handy
[03:04] <LinuxN3wb> Read the question I had above
[03:04] <freetown2> LinuxN3wb, it is mostly automatic now...
[03:04] <LinuxN3wb> I already made backups.
[03:04] <ae86-drifter> that restores the backup
[03:04] <freetown2> LinuxN3wb, just joined the channel.
[03:04] <brandon_> alright,m and if not is dpkg reconfigrue xserver wise?
[03:04] <ae86-drifter> if ur having issues
[03:04] <LinuxN3wb> Ah, i'll post again then
[03:05] <LinuxN3wb> ae86-drifter, I know -- I just go into a TTY if something bad happens.
[03:05] <delfick> How do I determine in a makefile whether the operating system is windows or linux?
[03:05] <LinuxN3wb> Hey I have a set up of 3 monitors, 2 of which are in twinview and 1 as a separate X screen... However, the problem is that the two twinview monitors are stretched, as in it shows up as one large monitor instead of two separate monitors. (repost for freetown2)
[03:06] <ae86-drifter> LinuxNewb, thats how i have mine setup, twinview on dual screens, it stretches for mine too, which is what i want, i think thats how it is meant to be....
[03:06] <freetown2> LinuxN3wb, I thought that was what TwinView was supposed to do? Stretch?
[03:06] <LinuxN3wb> Well
[03:06] <R1_> Anyone here have knowledge of patching ipw2200 drivers with the jamx patch on Karmic?
[03:06] <freetown2> LinuxN3wb, what do you want?
[03:06] <LinuxN3wb> How do I have both screens to be separate then?
[03:06] <ae86-drifter> seperate x on each screen
[03:07] <freetown2> LinuxN3wb, set them all as separate?
[03:07] <LinuxN3wb> I couldn't enable the monitors without twinview, else it was separate X screen per monitor
[03:07] <LinuxN3wb> Which, I don't want.
[03:07] <ae86-drifter> manually configure xorg
[03:07] <LinuxN3wb> I _am_ manually configuring it :P
[03:07] <D4e5_1> can someone one help me please like pretty please
[03:07] <ae86-drifter> just copy and past the config from the other screens, then change the disply for each section
[03:07] <D4e5_1> please help me in this thread.. http://georgia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8472549#post8472549
[03:07] <freetown2> LinuxN3wb, run Nvidia X server settings with sudo and set things up the way you want to clobber /etc/xorg/xorg.conf
[03:08] <eliot_> is there a way i can make my downloads go faster im only getting 30 kbs
[03:08] <Flannel> !helpme | D4e5_1
[03:08] <ae86-drifter> eliot_ invest in a faster connection
[03:08] <eliot_> i have a fast connection
[03:08] <D4e5_1> !attitude
[03:08] <LinuxN3wb> I already tried nvidia-settings, the problem is that: It doesn't allow me to enable both monitors without either: Separate X screens, or twinview
[03:08] <D4e5_1> !attitude | D4e5_1
[03:09] <ae86-drifter> eliot_ contact your ISP!!!
[03:09] <ae86-drifter> omg
[03:09] <D4e5_1> !repeate | D4e5_1
[03:09] <eliot_> lol k
[03:09] <D4e5_1> !repeat | D4e5_1
[03:09] <D4e5_1> !commands
[03:10] <D4e5_1> {W}hÅt Thê FµÇ{k} 
[03:10] <ae86-drifter> !language D4e5_1
[03:10] <freetown2> LinuxN3wb, Detect Displays, click on screen, choose config?
[03:10] <ae86-drifter> !swearing D4e5_1
[03:10] <lyon81> hi, is there a browser that manages flash relatively well in linux? I have had no success so far
[03:10] <ae86-drifter> lol
[03:10] <D4e5_1> !language | ae86-drifter
[03:10] <ae86-drifter> its called firefox
[03:11] <D4e5_1> !swearing | ae86-drifter
[03:11] <workstation> Ok. So I bought a 500GB external hard drive and would like to make many partitions on it. some where around 10 - 15. I would like to install on each partition a install cd of various operating systems I have. I would also like to make several other parttions for storage as well. I want to put grub on here so when I boot into the external hard drive I can pick what partition to boot from. Is this possible?
[03:11] <mtoroyarzo> apt-cache search gtmess
[03:12] <D4e5_1> !windows | D4e5_1
[03:12] <LinuxN3wb> freetown2, but well, it only shows me 3 options for the monitor: Disabled, Separate X screen, or TwinView.. Disabled of course disables the screen entirely, Separate X screen is not what I want, and TwinView spans between two monitors.
[03:12] <brandon_> well flannnel
[03:12] <Teleken> wow booting off of hard drives is totally different than booting off of a CD/DVD
[03:12] <brandon_> were halfway there :)
[03:12] <brandon_> i uninstalled the drivers via envy
[03:12] <brandon_> thanks to your tab complete
[03:12] <brandon_> shit sorry for enter as comma
[03:12] <freetown2> LinuxN3wb, so what do you want? a clone?
[03:12] <D4e5_1> !billgates
[03:12] <LinuxN3wb> And, I WOULD use Xinerama if Compiz worked with it.
[03:12] <preecher> i just setup vpn server on my windows machine (desktop) what i need to do on my ubuntu laptop?
[03:12] <eliot_> could it be where im downloading it from because my bittorrent goes mad fast
[03:12] <IdleOne> !msgthebot | D4e5_1
[03:12] <brandon_> anyways its saying no device selected, and i can boot in low graphics mode
[03:13] <D4e5_1> !apple | D4e5_1
[03:13] <LinuxN3wb> freetown2, No, quite simply I want two monitors which have their own sets of panels, and then a third monitor with a separate X screen.
[03:14] <D4e5_1> !bored
[03:14] <IdleOne> !ops | D4e5_1 abusing bot
[03:14] <epinky> workstation: just set "a" in fdisk on your bootable partition
[03:14] <freetown2> bye bye D4e5_1
[03:14] <morphix> LinuxN3wb, sounds like for you what you are wanting to do, would probably be best with 3 video cards
[03:15] <morphix> its the only way you'd get 3 monitors and proper 3d acceleration such as compiz
[03:15] <freetown2> i suspect LinuxN3wb still wants to be able to move apps around the screens too
[03:15] <Madpilot> D4e5_1, you've had lots of warnings. Goodbye.
[03:15] <LinuxN3wb> No
[03:15] <LinuxN3wb> I'm fine with having a separate X screen on the third monitor
[03:15] <D4e5> why bye
[03:15] <D4e5> i got kicked dude
[03:15] <workstation> epinky, ok cool thanks
[03:15] <LinuxN3wb> But well, I simply cannot accomplish 3 video cards, so well.
[03:15] <workstation> epinky, to bootable I suppose?
[03:16] <morphix> well you cant have 2 monitors share 1 X and have compiz work too
[03:16] <SpaceGhostC2C> D4e5, because you were abusing the bot and not keeping on topic.
[03:16] <freetown2> LinuxN3wb, i'd get a three screen stretched desktop and then run flightgear!
[03:16] <epinky> workstation: yes, in fdisk
[03:16] <workstation> epinky, wouldnt that boot only one partiton
[03:16] <LinuxN3wb> freetown2, I have 1920x1200 monitors... There are no 3 screen stretchers for that in my price range.
[03:16] <D4e5> but who kicked me
[03:16] <R1_> Anyone here have knowledge of patching ipw2200 drivers with the jamx patch on Karmic?
[03:16] <D4e5> dude I am learning bot
[03:16] <IdleOne> D4e5: madpilot kicked you
[03:17] <IdleOne> D4e5: and you were told to learn in /msg
[03:17] <D4e5> Madpilot
[03:17] <freetown2> D4e5, dude you are abusing the bot on a support channel. Go away
[03:17] <D4e5> sorry
[03:17] <Madpilot> D4e5, you can /msg the bot. Keep  abusing the bot in-channel and you will be banned. Clear?
[03:17] <D4e5> yes sir
[03:18] <LinuxN3wb> But, the odd thing is, with 1 video card and 2 monitors I was able to use both of them separately
[03:18] <epinky> workstation: that's fdisk's part, GRUB must do the other(Bootloader)
[03:18] <[t0rc]> Is there a way to check the version of a library on your system from command line?
[03:18] <LinuxN3wb> Each one could e.g. have separate maximized applications, and I could drag between them... With desktop composition working....
[03:18] <LinuxN3wb> Meh.
[03:18] <IdleOne> [t0rc]: apt-cache policy package
[03:18] <Guest1> Why is it that certain folders are locked
[03:19] <Guest1> and cannot be accessed?
[03:19] <Guest1> Does anybody know?
[03:19] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:19] <[t0rc]> WHOOOO pretty show!
[03:19] <Guest1> Hello?
[03:19] <[t0rc]> lol
[03:20] <Guest1> Why are some folders locked?
[03:20] <AC_215> Is there a way to recover a windows partition after installing ubuntu?
[03:20] <Guest1> No
[03:20] <burkmat_> Guest1, Because the system would be very insecure if everyone could access everything?
[03:20] <IdleOne> AC_215: no
[03:20] <Guest1> I knew Windows would be better in this area
[03:20] <Mike_lifeguard> AC_215: Did you install ubuntu on that partition? If so, you're out of luck.
[03:20] <Guest1> Because...
[03:20] <Guest1> I can't update my computer
[03:20] <Mike_lifeguard> Guest1: What do you mean by "locked"?
[03:21] <Mike_lifeguard> !sudo | Guest1
[03:21] <[t0rc]> AC_215, do you mean that you installed ubuntu in the same partition as the Windows install? or a different drive/partition?
[03:21] <IdleOne> Guest1: why can't you update?
[03:21] <imatech> :-D
[03:21] <Guest1> because of the *expletive" lock!
[03:21] <morphix> Can someone help me, without using gparted or any other X requiring GUi tool, how can i shrink a extended partition running on software raid
[03:21] <morphix> i ended up killing the partition and data last time i tried
[03:21] <Guest1> Whoa
[03:22] <Guest1> Computer froze
[03:22] <Guest1> Anyway
[03:22] <IdleOne> Guest1: sudo apt-get update returns?
[03:22] <burkmat_> Guest1, What are you trying update, and what folder is "locked"?
[03:22] <Guest1> E: Cant' do update or something
[03:22] <Guest1> I'm trying to autoremove uneeded stuff
[03:22] <Mike_lifeguard> Guest1: You probably need to use sudo!
[03:22] <Guest1> life Linux-headers
[03:22] <IdleOne> Guest1: yeah error or something isn't helpful
[03:22] <Mike_lifeguard> Guest1: You definitely need to use sudo!
[03:22] <Guest1> And yes, I am using sudo
[03:22] <workstation> epinky, looks like I will have to  Multiple Architectures for each computer I want it to boot from
[03:23] <Mike_lifeguard> Guest1: Then tell us what the exact error is!
[03:23] <Guest1> Lemme compy and paste...
[03:23] <preecher> how do i set up a vpn client in ubuntu
[03:23] <Mike_lifeguard> not in here, use p.defau.lt, Guest1
[03:23] <burkmat_> Guest1, Might want to pastebin if it's long.
[03:23] <Guest1> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[03:23] <Guest1> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:23] <freetown2> Guest1, sudo....
[03:23] <Guest1> Used that
[03:24] <Guest1> Heres my record
[03:24] <Guest1> :
[03:24] <IdleOne> Guest1: close Synaptic and sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:24] <epinky> workstation: sry, didn't get that last part
[03:24] <Guest1> Synaptic was never open
[03:24] <IdleOne> Guest1: ok sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[03:24] <Guest1> Ok...
[03:24] <Mike_lifeguard> Guest1: You can only have one thing changing packages on the system. Are you sure you don't have another process trying to install/remove/whatever packages?
[03:24] <workstation> epinky,  http://pastebin.com/m1711cc5d
[03:25] <IdleOne> Guest1: then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:25] <Guest1> Here's what I got...
[03:25] <FAJALOU> Hi I have my printer set up to verify my username on the network automatically.  But whenever I restart cups this authentication is lost.  What is going on, and how can I resolve it?  Thanks!
[03:25] <mahngiel> any pcbsd users able to give me any intel? we could pm if you'd be so kind. (this is the only good *nix forum with intelligent ppl, and YES, i am a karmic user)
[03:25] <Guest1> rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/dpkg/lock': No such file or directory
[03:26] <Guest1> I found the file though manually
[03:26] <t0rc> Is there a way to go back to a previous version of a library?
[03:26] <IdleOne> Guest1: seems we are going in circles then. you must have something that is open trying to change packages
[03:26] <Guest1> Does a virtual planetarium fit?
[03:26] <ae86-drifter> could someone tell me how i can enable user write permission to a folder mounted through sshfs?
[03:27] <Guest1> Obviously not...
[03:27] <IdleOne> Guest1: No I wouldn't think so
[03:27] <epinky> workstation: where is that from? I think I missed some part :)
[03:27] <workstation> epinky, from the install file for grub
[03:27] <Guest1> IdleOne: Should I manually delete the lock?
[03:27] <Guest1> IdleOne: I have the Nautilus Folder open
[03:28] <Guest1> after tracing the file directory
[03:28] <epinky> workstation: how are you performing GRUB install?
[03:28] <IdleOne> Guest1: sure
[03:28] <Guest1> IdleOne: Is there any way to recover the "lock"
[03:28] <Guest1> ?
[03:28] <IdleOne> Guest1: what do you mean by recover?
[03:29] <workstation> epinky, not sure exactly. Form my laptop
[03:29] <Guest1> IdleOne: If I delete the "lock" file, then it is "wiped out"
[03:29] <t0rc> I think he means to "recover" it after he deletes it
[03:29] <Guest1> Gone.
[03:29] <Guest1> Null
[03:29] <Guest1> Zip
[03:29] <FloodBot3> Guest1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <FloodBot2> Guest1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <FloodBot1> Guest1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <Guest1> OUtta here
[03:29] <FloodBot4> Guest1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <Guest1> Bots...
[03:29] <t0rc> The floodbots are going to eat you Guest1
[03:29] <IdleOne> Guest1: the lock file is created when more then one process is trying to change packages
[03:29] <Mike_lifeguard> !flood | FloodBot4
[03:29] <epinky> workstation: using any command?
[03:29]  * Mike_lifeguard snickers
[03:29] <roygbiv> i see now why they are called floodbot. they are good at flooding
[03:29] <Guest1> IdleOne: Synaptic is closed
[03:30] <workstation> epinky, not sure yet, i was looking at the install
[03:30] <Guest1> IdleOne: So is Software Center
[03:30] <t0rc> Guest1, another words, do you have Synaptic open? Ubuntu Software Suite? Or apt-get in a terminal?
[03:30] <IdleOne> Guest1: haha yes
[03:30] <IdleOne> close that
[03:30] <workstation> epinky, is there other options other then gru
[03:30] <morphix> apt/aptitude/dpkg ?
[03:30] <Guest1> I'm using apt-get to autoremove
[03:30] <t0rc> is it running? close it
[03:30] <Viking667> hm. I'll be back soon.
[03:31] <Guest1> torc: ok
[03:31] <IdleOne> Guest1: ok close out your terminals. then open a new terminal and run the update command
[03:31] <epinky> workstation: hmmm, GAG is also really friendly http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[03:31] <IkoniaISaWHORE> ikonia: hi love
[03:31] <Guest1> Don't I have to autoremove first?
[03:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> lol... wow.
[03:31] <IdleOne> Guest1: autoremove can wait. not essential
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[03:32] <FloodBot4> IkoniaISaWHORE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:32] <IdleOne> !ops
[03:32] <morphix> ps aux | grep -e "apt" -e "dpkg"
[03:32] <Guest1> HOLY MAC AND CHEESE!
[03:32] <Guest1> IT WORKS!
[03:32] <Cpudan80> IdleOne: The bots take care of that for the most part
[03:32] <Cpudan80> the ! ... command is really only for emergencies
[03:32] <IdleOne> Cpudan80: yeah but the bot then removes the ban
[03:32] <Guest1> Thank you IdleOne
[03:32] <Viking667> greek, huh?
[03:33] <Cpudan80> IdleOne: true - but I think the op guys get alerted when the bot goes +o
[03:33] <workstation> epinky, k thanks. I guess I dont need grub even. Was told they show up if booting into the hd
[03:33] <Madpilot> the FloodBot's bans are short-term, they're not really trollproof
[03:33] <Madpilot> Cpudan80, the floodbots are always +o, actually
[03:33] <IdleOne> case like that needs a more perm like ban I would think
[03:33] <Cpudan80> hmm
[03:33] <Cpudan80> didnt think bout that
[03:34] <epinky> workstation: you're welcome  and good luck :)
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[03:35] <airtonix> it's steve balmers day off
[03:35] <FloodBot4> IkoniaISaSLUT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <Mike_lifeguard> Madpilot: you're on
[03:35] <workstation> epinky, Thanks!
[03:35] <IdleOne> lol keeps flooding himself off the server
[03:36] <D4e5> wow wht happens there?
[03:36] <Madpilot> there
[03:36] <Mike_lifeguard> D4e5: troll, ignore it
[03:36] <D4e5> Madpilot don't think it was me
[03:36] <D4e5> {L}âUghîñ Ôut £òU{Ð}
[03:36] <Mike_lifeguard> D4e5: Don't do that.
[03:36] <D4e5> do wht
[03:37] <IdleOne> Mike_lifeguard: the lol is a auto replace scripty bit kiddy thing
[03:37] <morphix> so no one knows how i can shrink a extended partition on software raid 1?
[03:37] <Mike_lifeguard> In USN-\d\d\d-\d (security notices), there are references to CVE-\d\d\d\d-\d\d\d\d -- what are those?
[03:37] <Mike_lifeguard> IdleOne: I know, that's why I said to cut it out :)
[03:37] <epinky> morphix: LVM concerned?
[03:38] <morphix> unfortunately there is no LVM
[03:38] <freetown2> morphix, you cannot put an extended partition on software raid?
[03:38] <ae86-drifter> could someone tell me how i can enable user write permission to a folder mounted through sshfs?
[03:38] <IdleOne> Mike_lifeguard: I used to have that back when on EFnet using mirc
[03:38] <Jeruvy> Mike_lifeguard: http://cve.mitre.org/
[03:38] <morphix> freetown2, ya you can.
[03:38] <Mike_lifeguard> Jeruvy: thanks!
[03:38] <morphix> eg. sda1, sda2, sda3 are primary
[03:38] <freetown2> morphix, that's new to me
[03:38] <morphix> sda4 starts the extended
[03:38] <swaj> hmm.  Are there any decent non-AIR twitter clients for Linux?  Most I've seen look kinda bad
[03:38] <Mike_lifeguard> IdleOne: that's not something to brag about :\
[03:39] <freetown2> nope
[03:39] <morphix> sda5 & sda6 are actually the partitions
[03:39] <freetown2> sda4 is primary
[03:39] <Jeruvy> Mike_lifeguard: np
[03:39] <IdleOne> Mike_lifeguard: was 10+ years ago :/
[03:39] <morphix> well it holds the extended
[03:39] <freetown2> you were saying an extended ON md
[03:39] <freetown2> morphix, nope, sda4 is primary.
[03:40] <Mike_lifeguard> IdleOne: I hope you're about 20 right now :\
[03:40] <IdleOne> Mike_lifeguard: :P
[03:40] <morphix> well i  meant, i have for eg. sda1, sda2, sda3 which go to md0, md1, md2 respectively
[03:40] <tech__> Hi, has anybody experienced any system hangs after doing recent ubuntu 9.10 updates.
[03:40] <morphix> sda5 & sda6 are then md3 & md4
[03:40] <tech__> My machine just hangs on grub console.
[03:40] <morphix> i need to shrink the partition for md3
[03:41] <morphix> when i use resize2f it appears to be fine no errors
[03:41] <morphix> but then when i try to boot back into the OS from live distro
[03:41] <morphix> md3 fails
[03:41] <morphix> completely
[03:42] <freetown2> morphix, i don't remember md devices being shrinkable...
[03:42] <morphix> yeh, mdadm --grow /dev/md<dev> size=<size>
[03:43] <morphix> if you specify a smaller size than it is current
[03:43] <morphix> it shrinks
[03:43] <Mike_lifeguard> OK, so I can't open screen?! O_o Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied
[03:43] <morphix> this has worked fine so far for the 3 primary partitions
[03:44] <ae86-drifter> after i mount a folder with sshfs, when i browse with cli to the mounted folder, i get permission denied, i have full root access to the server, could someone please tell me how i can enable user write permission to a folder mounted through sshfs?
[03:44] <freetown2> morphix, okay and the respective partitions are also automatically adjusted?
[03:44] <morphix> yes
[03:45] <Perezosito> HOLAA es mi primer dia en ubuntu jajajjja
[03:45] <ae86-drifter> when i try chown and chmod 777 return cannot access: permission denied
[03:45] <morphix> i use, resize2fs then mdadm --grow then do e2fsck
[03:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> ae86-drifter, try putting sudo in front.
[03:45] <morphix> once reboot back into proper system, its all fine and shows new sizes
[03:45] <ae86-drifter> SpaceGhostC2C, i am
[03:45] <freetown2> morphix, okay, one resizes the filesystem, and then the md array...
[03:45] <IdleOne> !es | Perezosito
[03:45] <morphix> and those sync upto the new disc
[03:46] <SpaceGhostC2C> what are the permissions on the files?
[03:46] <freetown2> morphix, interesting thnx
[03:46] <ae86-drifter> on the server? or on the mounted folder?
[03:46] <ratso> any body experiencing system hangs after ubuntu 9.10 updates where only grub console comes up?
[03:46] <BlueG> I have been having random freezes with Ubuntu 9.10 that occur only on a Dell Dimension 4500S and not on other computers I have installed it on. The cursor continues to move, but nothing else works, not virtual terminals, numlock, capslock, or even ping. Any suggestions?
[03:46] <Perezosito> !es .
[03:46] <morphix> i really need to resize this stupid extended partition, its 9gb, the new disc partition size needs to be 4gb
[03:46] <morphix> :(
[03:46] <freetown2> morphix, i guess using lots of md devices is better than using LVM which does not support barriers
[03:47] <morphix> if i had of set the machine up i'm trying to change, i would used LVM or similar
[03:47] <morphix> but i didnt
[03:48] <t0rc> Is there a way to go to an older version of a library ? (I want to go back a version or two for libbluetooth)
[03:49] <freetown2> morphix, not using LVm with sfotware riad is probably a good thin
[03:49] <BlueG> I have had it freeze with any combination of common programs open while working, when it went to screen saver and I was away, and even right after login before I could open any programs.
[03:49] <basanta> which package provides the command send?
[03:49] <morphix> i have been googling and hunting around the internet for weeks now
[03:50] <morphix> with no suitable solution
[03:50] <morphix> i used a test bench
[03:50] <morphix> and it messed the partitions up completely
[03:50] <morphix> unrecoverable data
[03:50] <SpaceGhostC2C> morphex, can you try to keep your messages on one line, and not use enter as punctuation? Kind of like this message.
[03:50] <epinky> t0rc: I don't think so, just make symbolic links to those libs needed
[03:50] <SpaceGhostC2C> morphix, can you try to keep your messages on one line, and not use enter as punctuation? Kind of like this message.
[03:50] <morphix> sorry. i shall.
[03:51] <SpaceGhostC2C> had to correct the spelling.
[03:52] <hdtdi> if someone has vnc server installed on windows can i connect with remote desctop ( with ubuntu 9.10) and see what he is doing .. something like radmin
[03:52] <SpaceGhostC2C> hdtdi, yes.
[03:53] <cloudsymph> o
[03:53] <cloudsymph> hey
[03:53] <al__> how do you copy a direcectory, to a new directory, creating the new directory if reqd? ie cp /home/user/dir1/* /home/user/dir2 (creating dir2 if not already exitisting?)
[03:53] <hdtdi> thanks ill tell you after 5 min if everything is ok
[03:53] <t0rc> BlueG if you want to know that, you can type, send at BASH and it should tell you what packages to look at
[03:53] <greg12> send at bash
[03:54] <hdtdi> al__, cp -r dir /home
[03:54] <ae86-drifter> SpaceGhostC2C, can u please help me with the file permissions, its set to 777 at the moment from the server, i mkdir as a user on the remote pc and mounted a foler with sshfs, i keep getting access denied when i modify files
[03:54] <al__> hdtdi:  so I just need the -r option eh
[03:54] <hdtdi> yes -r option is for copying dirs
[03:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> ae86-drifter, do you own the folder?
[03:54] <ae86-drifter> yeah or -R
[03:54] <ae86-drifter> spacebear_ yes i do
[03:54] <ae86-drifter> SpaceGhostC2C, yes i do
[03:54] <cloudsymph> hey everyone, i've got a problem with the software download and updates.
[03:55] <cloudsymph> ummm i fixed an earlier problem with the web browsing, which was due to the ipv6 or something
[03:55] <ae86-drifter> SpaceGhostC2C, can you help me?
[03:55] <SpaceGhostC2C> ae86-drifter, what did you use to mount the remote filesystem?
[03:55] <ae86-drifter> please
[03:55] <ae86-drifter> sshfs
[03:56] <cloudsymph> question is i can't download from the software server nor updates, does anyone have a clue.  also i can't install the adobe that i downloaded from their site
[03:56] <cloudsymph> adobe flash*
[03:57] <al__> hdtdi: just checking you understood me correctly, I want to copy the contents of dir1 with /dir1/* to dir2, creating dir2 if nessecary.
[03:57] <hdtdi> SpaceGhostC2C, when i try to connect i have this "Authentication method to host brum.el1t3.org is unsupported "
[03:57] <hdtdi> al__, its like cp -r /home/dir1 /home/dir2
[03:57] <ae86-drifter> sshfs -p 3454 username@ip address /var/www /home/blah/blah
[03:58] <SpaceGhostC2C> hdtdi, I've no idea about what youre talking about. What is your issue?
[03:58] <KeithBilly> Hello, i have 9.04 which was working just fine for the first few days. I shut down the system for a week or more, now when i started it back up and try and login it crashes after login and relaunches the login screen, over and over and over again. What can i do to try and resolve this?
[03:58] <Out_Cold> what's the location of the hostname service?
[03:58] <hdtdi> SpaceGhostC2C, i try to connect via remote desctop to a vista pc with vnc server installed
[03:58] <Guest41177> I was hoping to find a way to control a power outlet over eiter USB Or WiFi, a simple on/off is suffecient.
[03:58] <LinuxHack3r> I was hoping to find a way to control a power outlet over eiter USB Or WiFi, a simple on/off is suffecient.
[03:58] <BlueG> basanta: T0rc was suggesting that send at bash should suggest what packages provide it (the suggestion was accidentally addressed to me instead)
[03:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> look for the authentication methods in the preferences of the server.
[03:59] <KeithBilly> Guest411177 I've seen a usb method for this
[03:59] <BlueG> s/send/typing send
[03:59] <Emiliano> SOMEBODY USES DEBIAN???? HELP PLEASE.... TALK TO ME IN PRIVATE
[03:59] <Emiliano> ALGUIEN USA DEBIAN???? AYUDA POR FAVOR... HABLEMÉ EN PRIVADO
[03:59] <FloodBot4> Emiliano: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:59] <maco> Emiliano: #debian on irc.oftc.net
[03:59] <al__> hdtdi: ok, i ran the command a first time - it worked. run it a secondtime and it creates /dir2/dir1
[03:59] <Emiliano> THANKS
[04:00] <D4e5> I need help, when I boot up my computer, ubuntu won't load up, it would get stuck on black screen with blinking dash, if i press power off button screen goes pink please help
[04:00] <KeithBilly> Guest41177 http://www.instructables.com/id/A_USB_Power_Controled_Plug_Strip_With_Isolation/
[04:00] <Out_Cold> D4e5, is this a new install?
[04:00] <SpaceGhostC2C> ae86-drifter, I don't think I can help you. I don't use sshfs.
[04:00] <D4e5> nope Out_Cold
[04:01] <KeithBilly> Guest41177 there better version of this out there
[04:01] <Bsims> my microphone stopped working after recient updates any ideas all I get is loud static
[04:01] <basanta> BlueG, ok
[04:01] <D4e5> let me tell you something Out_Cold
[04:01] <morphix> ae86-drifter, typically /var/www and owned by www-data or similar
[04:01] <hdtdi> al__, why are you running it second time ?
[04:01] <KeithBilly> LinuxHack3r http://www.instructables.com/id/A_USB_Power_Controled_Plug_Strip_With_Isolation/
[04:01] <D4e5> I made some changes in video settings and after that this started to happen
[04:01] <KeithBilly> How can you get into safe mode?
[04:02] <KeithBilly> or a terminal if you can't login with gnome?
[04:02] <D4e5> i made changes on ubuntu control panel settings
[04:02] <morphix> sorry, i meant _is_ owned. try running and check what owner/group it states ls -lash /var | grep www
[04:02] <Out_Cold> KeithBilly, a boot cd helps
[04:02] <cloudsymph> ?
[04:02] <al__> hdtdi: well lets say I wanted to copy contents of dir1 to dir2, then crontab it to run every night so it copys every day. Then it would end up runing over and over again
[04:02] <D4e5> Out_Cold can you help me?
[04:02] <Out_Cold> D4e5, wat stage of the boot does it stick like that?
[04:02] <KeithBilly> Is there no way without a boot cd?
[04:02] <al__> the first time it creates dir2
[04:03] <preecher> i config'g vpn server on my work windows xp machine - now i need help in finding what/how setup vpn client on my ubuntu only laptop
[04:03] <al__> the second time i get it copied to dir/2dir1/
[04:03] <D4e5> what do you mean Out_Cold
[04:03] <Bsims> al__: you want rsync to do your copying
[04:03] <KeithBilly> There must be a way to boot to single user mode in 9.04 or bybass start?
[04:03] <Out_Cold> D4e5, when you start up the computer what happens directly before the blinking _ shows up?
[04:03] <KeithBilly> err bypass gnome starting
[04:04] <Bsims> KeithBilly: you can select cli only I beleve
[04:04] <Out_Cold> KeithBilly, use another console?? try CTRL + ALT F1
[04:04] <futurama> hallo..?
[04:04] <KeithBilly> thanks out_cold i'll try
[04:04] <hdtdi> al__, try mkdir /home/dir2 and then cd /home/dir1 and then cp -r * /home/dir2/
[04:04] <castis> can anyone help me compile an old version of a php extension?
[04:04] <D4e5> no Out_Cold it shows me ubuntu logo for few seconds after that i goes to black blinking screen
[04:04] <jack_> Help! Firefox 3.5.5 problem installing addons from Mozilla Ubuntu 9.10 (64bit)
[04:05] <al__> Bsims: NO i dont. I am copying 300Gb or so on a NAS. The cpu overhead on the nas with rynsc kills it
[04:05] <al__> I need a script
[04:05] <cloudsymph> hi there i can't download and install programs nor can i download and install updates.  i've also tried to download the adobe flash from their website but i can't install it as it needs to download more packages.  also i had an earlier internet problem, which was fixed when i turned off the ipv6.  i'm using 9.10 which is installed on a dell inspiron 640m
[04:05] <Out_Cold> anyone? what's the key to show the boot screen instead of the splash?
[04:06] <Viking667> Does anyone know what the error "I/O possible" means, and why I'm getting it whenever I run a program that tries to read from the microphone? (Happens as user, but not as root)
[04:06] <Viking667> uh, Esc  ?
[04:06] <Out_Cold> i usually use servers and see all that. D4e5 use esc while you boot and watch
[04:07] <Viking667> either that, or just before you boot, head into grub, stick nosplash in, instead of "splash=verbose"  or "splash"
[04:07] <mrmojo> hii guys
[04:07] <hdtdi> al__, did that worked?
[04:08] <mrmojo> what's the prefered way to install thunderbird 3.0 on karmic?
[04:08] <chilli0> How can i start a program in gedit tools ?
[04:08] <Out_Cold> that works too
[04:08] <Out_Cold> mrmojo, .debs are the best way followed by building source IMO
[04:08] <morphix> Out_Cold> you could just press e on kernel and delete splash
[04:09] <al__> hdtdi: sure did. I am just doing some test copying, and then will experiment with deleting stuff older than two weeks with a combo of find, xargs etc
[04:09] <mrmojo> Out_Cold: I know that, but I'd prefer having a repo to get updates
[04:09] <al__> before cp'ing all backups from NAS to exernal USB etc
[04:09] <mrmojo> I have been using the mozilla-daily ppa but i don't really want to update firefox and tb nearly every day
[04:09] <D4e5> ok
[04:09] <al__> then crontab the lot
[04:09] <miles95> #alldroid
[04:09] <D4e5> ok Out_Cold i will try tht
[04:09] <miles95> join #alldroid
[04:10] <preecher> i config'g vpn server on my work windows xp machine - now i need help in finding what/how setup vpn client on my ubuntu only laptop
[04:10] <Out_Cold> D4e5, i would try Viking667 or morphix ideas
[04:10] <cloudsymph> T_T
[04:11] <D4e5> wht is Viking667 or morphix ideas?
[04:11] <brandon-> thanks for the help flannel
[04:11] <brandon-> i got everything working, just a few small issues with context menus displaying funky for a second with the nvidia drivers
[04:13] <Flannel> brandon-: Good to hear
[04:13] <jdoelger1> my brightness control keys bring up the little brightness-indicator deal, but they won't change the brightness
[04:13] <D4e5> Out_Cold wht does this mean either that, or just before you boot, head into grub, stick nosplash in, instead of "splash=verbose"  or "splash
[04:13] <SpaceGhostC2C> !cookie | Flannel
[04:14] <Out_Cold> D4e5, try the esc first
[04:15] <Wicked> !skype
[04:15] <D4e5> ok Out_Cold
[04:15] <pit_> hi all
[04:16] <chilli0> How can i start a program in gedit tools ?
[04:16] <SpaceGhostC2C> !hi | pit_
[04:16] <pit_> i'm sorry
[04:17] <pit_> it's engish only channel?
[04:18] <Out_Cold> pit_, what's your language?
[04:18] <pit_> mmm
[04:18] <pit_> russian
[04:19] <Out_Cold> !rs maybe?
[04:19] <virtuald> !ru
[04:19] <Out_Cold> !rs
[04:19] <jdoelger1> what command controls lcd brightness?  i've used acpitool -l but this machine isn't a toshiba
[04:20] <pit_> i don't need help:) I simply wished to chat with adherents
[04:20] <SpaceGhostC2C> pit_ try looking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <pit_> o-O thanks :)
[04:21] <pit_> bb all
[04:21] <KaSBeK> Hi
[04:21] <bllz> Hi KaSBeK
[04:21] <blackman> Hello. Is there a package for vultures nethack patch? http://clivecrous.github.com/vultures/
[04:22] <KaSBeK> i need some help, im tryin to install ubuntu on a old laptop but the wifi does not work :( anyone can help?
[04:22] <preecher> i config'g vpn server on my work windows xp machine - now i need help in finding what/how setup vpn client on my ubuntu only laptop
[04:23] <bllz> KaSBeK:  did you check to see if your wifi adapter is supported?
[04:23] <LinuxN3wb> Hmm, for some reason I cannot install xserver-xgl -- When I try to install it from synaptic or apt-get, it says the package isn't available
[04:23] <bllz> preecher:  there's a vpn client you need to install... let me look up what it is again
[04:23] <KaSBeK> where can i see that? lol
[04:23] <magaio> When Empathy doesn't scroll when receiving an IM, is that considered a feature or a bug?
[04:23] <Flannel> blackman: I don't see one
[04:23] <LinuxN3wb> I had it installed before and did apt-get remove on it, stupid idea heh.
[04:23] <Out_Cold> KaSBeK, i find it's easier to update drivers when plugged in with LAN. If you can try that
[04:24] <KaSBeK> im updatin right now in fact
[04:24] <KaSBeK> it asked for like 150 things :P
[04:24] <bllz> KaSBeK:  i think it's called ppp-daemon or something like that.  Use aptitude search to look it up
[04:24] <LinuxN3wb> So, why would a package source not work?
[04:24] <Out_Cold> KaSBeK, well wait and restart
[04:24] <KaSBeK> ok ok :D
[04:24] <MetalHeadDead> I need some help, I just updated to 9.10 and I have to progress sliders at the top of my screen in the task bar that keep moving back and forth and won't go away, and the first two times i turned my computer on after this update the screen went purple with weird symbols on it that flashed.  to keep it from doing that i had to hurry and click my nvidia driver.  can someone help me
[04:25] <LinuxN3wb> Never mind
[04:27] <devanjan> Hello everybidy
[04:27] <snayth> Hi Can't get sound in Skype - Using a Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000 - Ubuntu version of Skype works great - Getting video - But does not recognize my webcam mike ? ?
[04:28] <snayth> Any ideas to try?
[04:28] <devanjan> While rebooting my ubuntu laptop, i did not unmount my desktop monitor ..
[04:28] <devanjan> now i am not able to boot up my ubuntu laptop
[04:28] <devanjan> Anybody has any clue how to get around with this problem?
[04:28] <chilli0> Why doesnt this work its a gedit tool http://pastebin.com/m20163a13
[04:29] <Out_Cold> what are you using cc for?
[04:30] <chilli0> compiling
[04:30] <ejv> why not gcc just out of curiousity?
[04:30] <chilli0> idk lol
[04:37] <SeaPhor> any tutorials or channels for gnucash in the repos?
[04:38] <chilli0> Can anyone help ? I need to make gedit run a program but ./program crashes gedit
[04:38] <SETKEH> any one played around with ubuntu cloud ???
[04:39] <leaf-sheep> SeaPhor: http://tinyurl.com/yemd8rd
[04:39] <SETKEH> chilli0, try sudo gedit file
[04:40] <prkt> what is ubuntu?
[04:40] <Query> what is ubuntu?
[04:40] <root> What is UBUNTU ?
[04:40] <chilli0> SETKEH, Huh ? In the extontion tools http://pastebin.com/m20163a13
[04:40] <Guest17958> Who is ubuntu ?
[04:40] <Query> who is ubuntu?
[04:40] <chilli0> prkt, An OS
[04:40] <Guest17958> prkt: is ubuntu >
[04:40] <SeaPhor> TY leaf-sheep
[04:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> I just lost the game.
[04:40] <Guest17958> SpaceGhostC2C: u r ghost
[04:40] <leaf-sheep> !ops | Query prkt Guest17958 (multiple lamers from same IP)
[04:41] <h4z|da2> lokian: u r liki
[04:41] <mikhail2> I am Mikhail Gorvachak
[04:41] <SETKEH> chilli0,  what are you trying to do ??
[04:41] <Flannel> prkt, Query, mikhail2, please stay ontopic.  Thanks
[04:41] <Query> !ops | leaf-sheep (multiple fucker)
[04:41] <mikhail2> chilli0: what do u think u can do ?
[04:41] <lokian> h4z|da2: you mean loki
[04:41] <miansc> whats a good program equivelent to Visual Studio... where u can design form write console etc..
[04:42] <SeaPhor> TY leaf-sheep , i was looking for irc channel for support but that may do enough, Thanks again
[04:42] <chilli0> SETKEH, Run a program
[04:42] <SETKEH> chilli0,  whydont you just sudo ./ ??
[04:42] <leaf-sheep> SeaPhor: I doubt there are one.  You'll have to make do with the tutorial site. ;o
[04:43] <Flannel> chilli0: You won't use gedit to run that program.  Running the program and having gedit crash is odd.
[04:44] <chilli0> Flannel, Do you know the extention tools ?
[04:44] <boxxy_> ubuntuforums is down =(
[04:44] <leaf-sheep> !code | miansc
[04:45] <Flannel> chilli0: Extension tools?  No, I suppose I don't.
[04:45] <leaf-sheep> miansc: Also, http://www.osalt.com/visual-studio
[04:46] <chilli0> Flannel,  You can run bash inside gedit but the command doesnt work
[04:46] <Blue11> i am running the netbook remix (9.10) and I like it but even with the mouse senstitiviy turned to the lowest, it;s still too sensative --suggestions?
[04:46] <Flannel> Does it work when you run it outside of gedit?
[04:46] <miansc> leaf-sheep: thanks heaps
[04:46] <SeattleOtaku> Sigh, so much for using a USB boot to keep Ubuntu and Vista separate... an update of grub blitzed my vista disk's mbr.
[04:47] <miansc> wait... visual studio, its for windows lol?
[04:47] <Flannel> miansc: For what language?
[04:47] <leaf-sheep> miansc: Yes. You also could use !virtualization to run Visual Studio inside Windows.
[04:48] <miansc> mainly c==/c#
[04:48] <miansc> C++*
[04:48] <Orion777> is anyone here who is not a hacker?
[04:48] <adminewb> chilli0, looks as though you want to finish a gedit session by compiling all the source in the folder you're editing
[04:48] <Guest48101> how to change the GDM login window of ubuntu 9.10? I find it's very difficult.
[04:48] <Flannel> miansc: Look into either Eclipse (with CDT) or Anjuta, those are both fairly standard IDEs for c++
[04:48] <miansc>  !virtualization
[04:48] <miansc> ok
[04:48] <miansc> what about making forms?
[04:48] <miansc> can they both do that too
[04:48] <Sagaci> Orion777: you're probably been asking in ubuntu-offtopic
[04:48] <Flannel> Guest48101: The rewrite of GDM doesn't yet support theming
[04:49] <Out_Cold> Guest48101, they removed that option
[04:49] <Sagaci> Orion777: !ot
[04:49] <Sagaci> !ot | Orion777
[04:49] <Viking667> they removed a hell of a lot from the gdm too.
[04:49] <chilli0> adminewb, I dont want to end gedit and i wanna compile the open file then run it in terminal
[04:49] <Sagaci> Viking667: unfortunately, yes
[04:49] <Flannel> miansc: What is a form?  You mean a GUI maker thing?  I'm not sure.  That's really toolkit specific, so if you use GTK, you use the GTK form maker, etc.
[04:49] <leaf-sheep> Viking667: Fortunately, yes.
[04:50] <Kamokow> I was moving partitions, and when I finished and rebooted, ubuntu gave me a boot error... is there like a fixmbr function for grub?
[04:50] <miansc> right... but then how do i import the GTK GUI to a program like eclipse to code the buttons, etc..
[04:50] <Guest48101> Flannel:thank you
[04:50] <adminewb> chilli0: if i'm reading your shell script correctly, it would compile a directory rather than the file you're editing, is that intended?
[04:51] <Flannel> miansc: I'm not sure, but I imagine it produces code with stub functions (I'm just guessing because that makes sense), it'd depend on the GUI Form maker thing
[04:51] <chilli0> adminewb, It doesnt
[04:51] <Orion777> no, its just everyone in #kubuntu right now is a hacker teenager
[04:51] <Orion777> pranksters
[04:51] <miansc> ok, fair enough.
[04:51] <Jayce> anybody running WICD? I keep losing connection with it every 10 seconds and I'm not sure of why.
[04:51] <adminewb> chilli0, so then $GEDIT_CURRENT_DOCUMENT_PATH refers to a file not its container?
[04:52] <miansc> i cant seem to get eclipse to work.. but ill try alternatives
[04:52] <chilli0> adminewb, correct
[04:52] <adminewb> chilli0, what gedit command lets you run a subshell?
[04:53] <chenhui> hi
[04:53] <Orion777> is another irc server with kubuntu support cause this one is just kid pranksters
[04:53] <leaf-sheep> Orion777: #kde, perhaps?
[04:53] <greezmunkey> Jayce, you could start by running a tail on /var/log/syslog to see what is going on...
[04:54] <leaf-sheep> Orion777: You always can ask here too.
[04:54] <chilli0> adminewb, If u go to plugins enable extention tools
[04:55] <chilli0> adminewb,  You can then run bash commands
[04:56] <miansc> I just fixed my overheating issue on ubuntu.. now i upgraded to 9.10 and it over heats again lol
[04:56] <Jayce> gah, I'm getting unmet depencies error - says I need to apt-get -f install, but I do, and nothing else happens
[04:56] <xhcet> any tips on how i can make xubuntu faster? running on 256M pIII
[04:56] <adminewb> chilli0, ok; looking at the script something is still fishy: it does a "cd $DIR" while treating the same $DIR as if it were a file not the container
[04:57] <pilif12p> how do i open a .dir or .pag file?
[04:57] <happyface> anyone have nomachine nx experience?
[04:57] <greezmunkey> Jayce, is that what is affecting wicd you think?
[04:58] <chilli0> adminewb, Changed it , but when i run ./file2 it just dies
[04:58] <adminewb> chilli0, and so once you enable extension tools, what is it you do to run a shell to run file2?
[04:58] <Jayce> greezmunkey - I dont believe so. I upgraded KDE on jaunty from 4.2.2 to 4.3.2, and that's whent he depenency issue came up. I have no idea why WICD is being weird, and I friggen love that network mgr so I hope it can be fixed.
[04:58] <adminewb> chilli0, so gedit does a crash dump at that point
[04:58] <chilli0> adminewb, Are you on it atm ?
[04:59] <adminewb> chilli0 no sorry i'm on windoze :P
[04:59] <chilli0> k
[04:59] <xnox> Hello! how to run application in a different language?
[04:59] <Jayce> but anyway how would I fix the dependency issue? I cant install ANYTHING now...
[05:00] <chilli0> adminewb, It just goes gray
[05:00] <chilli0> http://codepad.org/3zz3MGhY adminewb thats it
[05:00] <adminewb> chilli0, so the gedit process locks up then and doesn't accept GUI interactions
[05:00] <chilli0> adminewb,  Yes
[05:01] <chilli0> adminewb, And if i force close it i cant restart gedit
[05:02] <chilli0> But weirdly file2 does start its in the processes , and if i kill it i can start gedit
[05:02] <adminewb> chilli0 that's unfortunate; can you tell whether it's able to cd to the right place before locking up?
[05:02] <chilli0> did u see the now one http://codepad.org/3zz3MGhY
[05:02] <chilli0> It starts in the right dir ( the ls proves that)
[05:03] <adminewb> chilli0, as a diagnostic you might try temporarily replacing the "./file2" by some other cmd you know will work "echo hello world" or some such
[05:03] <chilli0> that does echo out hello world
[05:03] <chilli0> Not in a terminal
[05:04] <adminewb> chilli0, ok then in that case you'll probably want to read the output from the "cc" to see if the compiling is producing a junk executable to lock you up
[05:04] <greezmunkey> Question regarding sudo: The handbook mentions that gksudo is preferred over sudo to avoid certain files becoming owned by root. Is this really much of an issue with 9.10?
[05:04] <SETKEH> any one used ubuntu cloud ???
[05:04] <pilif12p> anyone know?
[05:05] <Madpilot> greezmunkey, haven't heard otherwise, or seen any changes that would invalidate that advice, so I'd say yes, it is.
[05:05] <sagerbomber> izon.net
[05:05] <Deathvalley122> anyone explain to me why ubuntu forums not working?
[05:05] <IdleOne> greezmunkey: gksudo is the prefered method of running GUI apps as root when needed
[05:05] <chilli0> adminewb, It works i can run it ./file2 workes in a terminal
[05:05] <leaf-sheep> greezmunkey: According to the manual, gksudo == GTK+ frontend for su and sudo
[05:05] <greezmunkey> Madpilot, IdleOne, Ah! now that makes sense! Thanks :)
[05:05] <chilli0> How can i make bash run a terminal with a command
[05:06] <adminewb> chilli0, ok; is it possible that the gnome-terminal command line is doing something different with stdout/stderr, accounting for the difference in behavior?
[05:07] <happyface> NOMACHINE NX: How do I get shadow sessions to work?
[05:07] <fattom> I'm having some trouble with my acer aspire one and the power management utility in Karmic Netbook Remix.  When I unplug the computer from AC power, the power manager performs the action associated with a lid close.  When I close the lid, the computer does nothing.  Any ideas of how I can "inform" the system that it has the mappings wrong?
[05:07] <greezmunkey> IdleOne, I can only think of two right now that are post install that I need to change, but I haven't had any issues so far. I'll make the change now. Thanks all :)
[05:08] <Deathvalley122> anybody?
[05:08] <chilli0> adminewb, not sure
[05:08] <Meshezabeel> What's that tool called that I can run it on a bad hard drive to make good again? I remember it takes a long time to go over the drive, but don't remember what it's called.
[05:08] <chilli0> Meshezabeel, fsck
[05:09] <adminewb> chilli0, oh reviewing what you said earlier, "not in a terminal" could you say more?
[05:09] <Kamokow> When i startup ubuntu i get something like "Cannot mount /etc/fsck   waiting on UUID - [long random string]"
[05:09] <Kamokow> Ubuntu 9.10 btw.
[05:10] <Meshezabeel> chilli0: I thought there was something more intense thatn fsck
[05:10] <Viking667> My problem with gdm losing just about everything was that I was using the functionality that got stripped out. Sigh*
[05:11] <Kamokow> Oh, and i have already tried grub-update
[05:11] <chilli0> adminewb, i tryed gnome-terminal "./file2"
[05:11] <russells> anyone have any tips for connection Ubuntu to a Mac (tiger)?
[05:11] <chilli0> But didnt work
[05:11] <chilli0> Meshezabeel,  Not sure then
[05:11] <gbear14275> is there a way to test connection speed when ssh'ed into a headless machine?
[05:11] <russells> also, is the forum server down or what?
[05:12] <greezmunkey> gbear14275, ifconfig, or bmon would work
[05:12] <fattom> russels - yep.  That's the case.
[05:12] <sagerbomber> hey guys im trying to connect to rizon but it klined me  for 7200 hours for being a bot. i just installed ubuntu. why do this?
[05:12] <andy_l_> does anyone know how to place a limit on the size of a directory in the filesystem ???
[05:12] <adminewb> chilli0: so outside your script, when you run 'gnome-terminal "any-test-cmd"' it doesn't run that cmd in a terminal?
[05:13] <chilli0> adminewb, I think it does
[05:13] <sagerbomber> id hate to use windows just for irc
[05:13] <Viking667> andy_l_: uh, not me. I don't know if that's easy, either.
[05:13] <andy_l_> Viking667 : I don't know either !!
[05:13] <paolo> test
[05:14] <Jayce> can anyone help me figure out why Im getting dependency errors? I upgraded KDE 4.2.2 to KDE 4.3.2 on Jaunty and now its erroring out whenever I try to install something. :(
[05:14] <chilli0> adminewb,  No it doesnt
[05:14] <Kamokow> I get a mount error, on Ubuntu 9.10 bootup for "/etc/fstab" and then it tells me to press esc for a shell :-/
[05:14] <llutz> andy_l_: read about (disk-)quota
[05:14] <Perezosito> holaaa
[05:14] <fattom> I'm having some trouble with my acer aspire one and the power management utility in Karmic Netbook Remix.  When I unplug the computer from AC power, the power manager performs the action associated with a lid close.  When I close the lid, the computer does nothing.  Any ideas of how I can "inform" the system that it has the mappings wrong?
[05:14] <greezmunkey> Jayce, can you pastebin an example, it may help!
[05:15] <andy_l_> llutz - will do thanks
[05:15] <Jayce> greezmunkey - surely, one moment
[05:15] <fattom> Jayce - have you tried running apt-get -v to figure out what packages are causing the problem?
[05:15] <Perezosito> alguien sabes cual es el canal español?
[05:15] <lstarnes> !es | Perezosito
[05:15] <Jayce> fattom - I did not. The error only told me to run apt-get install -f or something, which didnt do anything, 1 sec Ill get the pastebin
[05:15] <paolo> tarantado
[05:16] <paolo> ill be back
[05:16] <chilli0> adminewb, I guess my question is , How can a run a terminal in bash with a command
[05:17] <llutz> chilli0: gnome-terminal -e cmd
[05:17] <Jayce> greezmunkey, fattom = http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5b3a81e4
[05:17] <devD> how to show computer icon in ubuntu desktop ?
[05:17] <aminalshmu> does anyone know how to mount a network printer's SD card?
[05:18] <llutz> aminalshmu: does the printer make the SD-card availabler per smb/nfs/ftp/...?
[05:18] <chilli0> llutz, Thanks a loadd
[05:18] <greezmunkey> Jayce, so it's xchat that is broken? You are trying to fix it?
[05:18] <aminalshmu> probably smb? after installing the driver software in windows it comes up as a removable disk drive automatically
[05:18] <jumbers> If I'm on 9.10 and a package is only offered for Debian Etch or Lenny, which one would I need to download?
[05:18] <Jayce> greezmunkey - no, xchat was just an example. I just chose to install it to show what errors I was getting.
[05:19] <jackinthebox> DATABASE ERRORR NOOOOZ!
[05:19] <Out_Cold> i'm having errors creating a NFS mount. anyone care to take a look? http://pastebin.com/m662494e1
[05:19] <greezmunkey> Jayce, I see...
[05:19] <Jayce> greezmunkey - I'm on a kubuntu laptop when Im getting these errors. All I did was upgrade KDE with a PPA backport. Thats all I changed. That and WICD. Besides that it's a fresh install with minor desktop/widget modifications.
[05:19] <Out_Cold> ** note the 2 separate boxes
[05:20] <fattom> Jayce - have you tried apt-get install libindi0 ?
[05:20] <adminewb> chilli0 so then you were just missing the "-e" switch
[05:20] <greezmunkey> Jace, check this: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3104967.0
[05:20] <Jayce> fattom - No, I did not. Where do you see that?
[05:20] <chilli0> adminewb,  Yeh
[05:20] <gbear142751> anyone have any recommendations for a way to manage my headless machine?
[05:21] <fattom> Jayce - the error message says that that's an unfilfilled dependency.  Might help.
[05:21] <Jayce> fattom - guess I should read a little more carefully :P
[05:21] <gbear142751> most the people recommend cli?  or are there any decent gui's?
[05:21] <Jayce> fattom - Ill try that one sec
[05:21] <jumbers> gbear142751: Gauze to stop the bleeding
[05:21] <Jayce> fattom - its trying to install that lib thing now
[05:21] <Kamokow> Ugh, and my windows partition wont boot, great :-/
[05:21] <Jayce> fattom - errored out again...
[05:22] <fattom> Jayce - anything substantially different in the error message?
[05:22] <Jayce> fattom - one sec, grabbin the pastebin for ya
[05:22] <gbear142751> jumbers: lol thanx i'll give that a shot...
[05:22] <Jayce> fattom - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m52cd123
[05:22] <jumbers> gbear142751: No problem
[05:24] <greezmunkey> Jayce, did you check the post I gave you?
[05:24] <Out_Cold> i'm having errors creating a NFS mount. anyone care to take a look? http://pastebin.com/m662494e1
[05:24] <hanasaki> what is a good tool for benchmarking disk performance and what results are considered Good for a sata300 disk?
[05:24] <Jayce> greezmunkey - reading about it now
[05:24] <Jayce> greezmunkey - so you suggest sudo dpkg --remove --force-depends libinid0
[05:24] <Jayce> ??
[05:25] <greezmunkey> Jayce, It looks like you may have to remove the update with the command in the first reply, then reinstall? That's what I get from it.
[05:26] <demonspork> How do I dynamically adjust my mouse sensitivity?
[05:26] <Jayce> greezmunkey - remove by... by dpkg --remove... right?
[05:26] <fattom> the problem is a conflict with /usr/bin/indiserver.  apparently, the new package is trying to overwrite it, and can't do it automatically.  I don't know too much about it, but that's where I'd start looking.
[05:26] <adminewb> Anyone know if there are significant differences between the ubuntu LiveCD creater on a USB drive, compared to a portable linux installation on same? I don't know how you even tell if your device has some built in wear leveling, let alone where /tmp is mounted or where persistence data goes when.
[05:26] <Jayce> fattom - I wonder what happened :( I upgraded KDE on 4 machines and this was the only one giving me a headache.
[05:26] <fattom> I'm having some trouble with my acer aspire one and the power management utility in Karmic Netbook Remix.  When I unplug the computer from AC power, the power manager performs the action associated with a lid close.  When I close the lid, the computer does nothing.  Any ideas of how I can "inform" the system that it has the mappings wrong?
[05:27] <knux889> acer sucks
[05:27] <knux889> i have one and its been pissing me off
[05:27] <fattom> Jayce - laptops are historically a little more temperamental with Ubuntu.  I had no problems on my netbook with jaunty, but have had three major issues since the upgrade to Karmic.
[05:27] <maco> knux889: good for it
[05:28] <Rajasun> Jayce: try this -> sudo dpkg --force overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libindi0_0.6-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[05:28] <fattom> knux889: I'm overall pretty happy with it, and didn't have this problem with Jaunty.  So it's not entirely the hardware's fault.
[05:28] <Jayce> fattom - I've avoided karmic, due to issues. Thats why I figured Id stick with jaunty and just update KDE since KDE 4.3 is the newest you can get with jaunty
[05:28] <Meshezabeel> chilli0: spinrite is the tool I was thinking about before
[05:28] <microlith> lol, spinrite
[05:28] <Rajasun> Jayce: then run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:29] <gbear142751> how can I tell through cli what version I'm running?  I tried uname -a but only got the kernel versino
[05:29] <Viking667> gbear142751: check out /etc/issue  or /etc/release
[05:29] <leaf-sheep> gbear142751: lsb_release -a
[05:29] <Viking667> oh, or that.
[05:29] <Jayce> rajasun - no such file or directory
[05:29] <Viking667> I have a funny feeling that if things don't improve here, I'll be backing my system off to Jaunty too...
[05:30] <Rajasun> Jayce: /var/cache/apt/archives/libindi0_0.6-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb is what I see as the package giving you the problem from http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m52cd123
[05:31] <fattom> Jayce - is it feasible to delete the package 'indi' and reinstall after the libindi0?
[05:31] <Jayce> fattom - feasible by whos standards? Mine? Sure! I just want this thing running :P
[05:31] <Jayce> besides, I have an image I made of the install, so if it tanks, we're okay :P
[05:31] <Jayce> I've learned enough hard lessons to know, when things are running good, make a da** image of the thing.
[05:32] <greezmunkey> fattom, is there a way to determine which packages depend on that lib?
[05:32] <Jayce> rajasun -l et me double check, but Im pretty sure I typed it right
[05:32] <fattom> Jayce - give that a shot.  that seems to be what's currently causing problems.  According to the man page, it's for controlling telescopes.
[05:32] <Jayce> telescopes???
[05:32] <fattom> Jayce - I would open Synaptic, check it for deletion, and then see what else it threatens to uninstall.
[05:32] <Rajasun> jayce: this kind of sitiuations rarely arises but when it does, usually it is some developer's oversight with the installation scripts or that you have been mixing repos or using external, unofficial repos, A simple sudo dpkg --force overwrite -i  and sudo dpkg --configure -a or sudo dpkg --configure --pending usually is all that it takes
[05:33] <Jayce> rajasun - had a typo :P
[05:33] <Jayce> standby..
[05:33] <fattom> Jayce - NDI is a distributed control protocol designed to operate
[05:33] <fattom> astronomical instrumentation.
[05:33] <Jayce> rajasun - I think we got a winner
[05:33] <Jayce> installing exaile as we speak, let me check add/remove programs quick
[05:34] <Jayce> exaile took on a lot of libs it seems, I remember it being a light program
[05:34] <Jayce> but this is also a work laptop, not my personal one, so maybe it just seemed like a lot on my own desktop (also running jaunty with KDE 4.3.2)
[05:34] <mbgray> Hey there, is there anyone who can point me towards a good place to read more about the X server?
[05:35] <Rajasun> jayce: next time something like this arises again...remember the steps...usually it is a starightforward/no brainer solution like I've suggested...theer will be other situations when you may need to get your hands dirty and dive into maintainers'' scripts though e.g. prerm, postrm, preinst, posinst but we'll come to them when they arise
[05:35] <Nperil> hey all. im on a windows platform now and need to know what i need to download to a thumb drive to update the video and the music player for ubuntu hardy heron 8.04. can any one help
[05:35] <Rajasun> jayce: good to hear :)
[05:35] <greezmunkey> Rajasun, that's pretty cool, thanks for the info on dependancies
[05:35] <peterchou_> hello ervy one
[05:36] <Jayce> rajasun - so more or less, what did we accomplish? We just dpkg --force overwrite -i *package path* then configure -a
[05:36] <Jayce> right?
[05:36] <Rajasun> greezmunkey: np...may need to read up more on DPKG and APT e.g. http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/48910
[05:37] <greezmunkey> Rajasun, I have to man page open as we (speak)...
[05:37] <OhioEric> are the ubuntu forums down? can't load ubuntuforums.org
[05:37] <fattom> I'm having some trouble with my acer aspire one and the power management utility in Karmic Netbook Remix.  When I unplug the computer from AC power, the power manager performs the action associated with a lid close.  When I close the lid, the computer does nothing.  Any ideas of how I can "inform" the system that it has the mappings wrong?
[05:37] <greezmunkey> s/to/the
[05:37] <peterchou_> I have a question, can someone help me
[05:37] <fattom> peterchou, what's your question?
[05:37] <Rajasun> Jayce & greezemunkey : Also this other primer -> http://tldp.org/LDP/www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ch-dpkg.html
[05:38] <Jayce> rajasun - okay, add/remove was behaving too, so we're good now. Thanks raja, greezmunkey, and fattom.
[05:38] <peterchou_> my notebook can't boot my ubuntu very well
[05:38] <devD> is there any dictionary which can do pronunciation too.
[05:38] <fattom> np
[05:38] <adminewb> Someone know if there are significant differences between the ubuntu LiveCD creator on a USB flash drive (usb-creator package), compared to a portable linux installation on same? I don't know how you even tell if your device has some built in wear leveling, let alone where /tmp is mounted or where persistence data goes when.
[05:38] <devD> speaking dictionary.
[05:38] <fattom> peterchou_what's it do?
[05:38] <Rajasun> Jayce: np
[05:38] <greezmunkey> Rajasun, heh thanks, that's a bit easier to read
[05:38] <Out_Cold> i'm having errors creating a NFS mount. anyone care to take a look? http://pastebin.com/m662494e1
[05:39] <peterchou_> when I use usb dev ,my ubuntu can't boot
[05:39] <adminewb> !usb-creator
[05:39] <Jayce> is anybody running Karmic 64 bit on a laptop with the Broadcom STA driver installed?
[05:39] <peterchou_> but when I add acpi=off ,it will boot
[05:39] <Rajasun> greezemunkey: hehe...prob with a lot of these docs is that they are written by devs thinking along devs' line not that of a typical user especially a new one
[05:39] <peterchou_> boot
[05:39] <Rajasun> ;)
[05:40] <fattom> Out_Cold: Dumb question: do you have nfs-common installed on the client machine?
[05:40] <Out_Cold> yes
[05:40] <hotlove> :'(
[05:40] <Out_Cold> do i need the partition to be nfs?
[05:40] <Out_Cold> well it's lvm but still..
[05:41] <peterchou_> I use wubi to setup my ubuntu
[05:41] <Jayce> anybody running WICD on their laptop? If so, any issues iwth it?
[05:41] <preecher> tryng to get vpn client on my ubuntu only laptop to connect to my workplace windows machine vpn server-get this message-"connection failed because there were no valid vpn secrets"
[05:41] <Out_Cold> Jayce, i have had issues in the past
[05:41] <Jayce> out_cold - really?
[05:41] <Out_Cold> i now only use wicd on LAN
[05:41] <Jayce> what kind of issues?
[05:41] <Jayce> so you prefer network manager?
[05:41] <Out_Cold> connectivity and freezing
[05:42] <Out_Cold> i prefer wicd on my server ;)
[05:42] <rahul286> any command line backup/snapshot tool for remote server?
[05:42] <fattom> Jayce: I'm running WICD on my netbook (since about 3 hours ago) and I haven't had a problem.  In fact, it solved a strange problem that my wireless would only talk to linksys routers.  So, YMMV, but I love it.
[05:42] <Jayce> out_cold - so for a laptop running wifi full time you prefer the default network manager?
[05:42] <Nperil> hey all i have a question. im on a windows platform now and need to know what i need to download to a thumb drive to get all of the updates.
[05:42] <SuperMiguel> i just set up a nas.. how can i test my upload and downlaod speeds to it?
[05:42] <Jayce> fattom - its strange. I REALLY, REALLY like how with WICD, it'll show me each access point in the area even if it's the same SSID (handy at work)
[05:42] <greezmunkey> Rajasun, I agree. I try to learn something new every time I am in here, you gave me my project for the night!
[05:43] <NssOne> really big files?
[05:43] <Jayce> fattom - but it seems to have jumpy signal, sometiomes it drops off, then it grabs it again, it can be a PITA
[05:43] <Kamokow> On bootup of Ubuntu 9.10: "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted: swap: waiting for UUID = 38e3ceaf-80al-407c-77e6-28816f527240   Press ESC to enter a Recovery Shell"
[05:43] <Out_Cold> Jayce, it's been better than the problems with wicd before. but that's with my laptop so yes
[05:43] <Rajasun> greezemunkey: heh ;)
[05:43] <fattom> Jayce - I haven't had the experience, but I'll definitely be on the look out for that.
[05:43] <SuperMiguel> i just set up a nas.. how can i test my upload and downlaod speeds to it?
[05:44] <Jayce> fattom - At first it was happening at work, but at work we're having issues with laptops dropping connection anyway since we integrated hardware authentication through PEAP TLS into the mix. So I excused it. I came home and its doing it at home. Not as frequently, but still dropping at times. I wanst sure what to think.
[05:44] <Jayce> fattom, out_cold - the only problem that really irritated me about the default network manager is I had TWO signal bars for the network I was connected to, and they each varied in signal strength and I had NO clue what was what.
[05:44] <fattom> Jayce - I'm awfully sure that I don't have the know how to advise on this one.  WiFi is like some kind of black magic to me.
[05:44] <preecher> tryng to get vpn client on my ubuntu only laptop to connect to my workplace windows machine vpn server-get this message-"connection failed because there were no valid vpn secrets"
[05:44] <Out_Cold> Jayce, possibly to interfaces?
[05:45] <Out_Cold> *two
[05:45] <Jayce> out_cold - two... wifi interfaces??
[05:45] <R1_> Hi, I'm just here to confirm whether if it's just me or is the ubuntu forums down for everyone else aswell
[05:45] <Out_Cold> or a duplicate app running?
[05:45] <llutz> Kamokow: check UUID of your swap-partition, edit /etc/fstab to correct it there
[05:45] <tmbg> R1_: they give me a database error
[05:45] <tmbg> kubuntu 9.10, firefox 3.5.5, flash 10.0.42.34, soundblaster live! 5.1. sound works, but not in flash. google wasn't very helpful so far. anyone with other ideas?
[05:45] <Jayce> out_cold - not sure, I hit about 5 wifi networks a day , I only noticed it at 1, Ill install network manager again and check it now.
[05:45] <Kamokow> ok thanks llutz, ill try that
[05:46] <llutz> Kamokow: "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid" or "sudo blkid -g && sudo blkid"
[05:46] <NssOne> My issue: upgaded from 9.04 to 9.10, gui was messed up. deleting old xorg.conf didn't work, had to add i915.modeset=0 to the end of my kernel in menu.lst, now my resolution configuration is only 800x600 on a 1024x768 screen. Any ideas?
[05:47] <the_man> evening all
[05:47] <NssOne> can't change the resolution from 800x600
[05:47] <OSGUIunknown> hello the_man
[05:47] <nicknoper> hey guys
[05:47] <fattom> NssOne - are you running the proprietary drivers for your video card?
[05:47] <peterchou_> my laptop can't boot ubuntu very well,when I use usb device ,it will stop after this "linux-bzImage,setup=0x...,size=0x...,initrd,addr=0x..,size=0x.. "
[05:47] <peterchou_> can somebody help me?
[05:47] <the_man> sup OSGUIunknown
[05:47] <manugg> is ubuntuforums down for anyone else?
[05:47] <the_man> whats shaking
[05:48] <Kamokow> llutz: Ok, so I got the UUID for my swap drive now. So I edit it in /etc/fstab?
[05:48] <NssOne> i dunno, it's just an intel gma video for a netbook
[05:48] <bllz> Does anybody know how to set AAM parameters with hdparm?  I have 2 harddrives in a raid array and they're LOUD.
[05:48] <NssOne> gma 945 i believe
[05:48] <nicknoper> i'm gonna take a wild guess and say that there's a lot more people here needing help than those that can actually give it
[05:48] <synapsys> manugg, database error !
[05:48] <synapsys> not again...
[05:48] <peterchou_> how could i do
[05:48] <NssOne> manugg, theyre down for me also
[05:49] <Kamokow> nicknoper: its because the ubuntu forums are down
[05:49] <llutz> Kamokow: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:49] <nicknoper> i was wondering
[05:49] <fattom> peterchou: that seems to be a pretty common issue when booting live media.  I've looked long and hard and never found a solution.  I just keep using acpi=no.
[05:49] <greezmunkey> manugg, for reference only:  www.isitup.org
[05:49] <the_man> i suggest everyone just switch to win 7 and server 2008
[05:49] <Nperil> ive got a ? can any one help? sort a newb
[05:49]  * the_man waits for the bashing to insue
[05:50] <fattom> the_man: Quiet, troll! :)
[05:50] <llutz> the_man: i suggst you leave to troll somewhere
[05:50] <OSGUIunknown> the acpi is apparently if your bios is before 1999
[05:50] <peterchou_> but that load to another question
[05:50] <the_man> lol fattom and llutz
[05:50] <the_man> just joshin with you all
[05:50] <fattom> Nperil: what can I help you with?  I'll do my best.
[05:50] <the_man> Nperil, don't ask to ask.. just ask
[05:51] <fattom> I'm having some trouble with my acer aspire one and the power management utility in Karmic Netbook Remix.  When I unplug the computer from AC power, the power manager performs the action associated with a lid close.  When I close the lid, the computer does nothing.  Any ideas of how I can "inform" the system that it has the mappings wrong?
[05:51] <Nperil> im on a windows platform and i need to know where to download all the updates (on a flash drive) for ubuntu 8.04
[05:51] <nicknoper> i'll just say this and hope someone answers: i just installed karmic (9.10) and for some reason it won't let me login anymore, i'm guessing it has something to do with my nvidia drivers (which don't seem to be doing much in the first place) but i can only get to my system by live cd or the ubuntu equivilant of safemode, otherwise i can't log in. please help
[05:52] <Jayce> hey guys - trying to uninstall wicd - but when I do it says its not installed, and uh, it is. I also cant get network manager back to my taskbar :(
[05:52] <Jayce> or find network manager in the menus
[05:52] <the_man> strange fattom i'm still on a 701eee so i'm not sure
[05:52] <Kamokow> Alright time to see if it worked!
[05:52] <NssOne> nicknoper, you get a grub menu?
[05:52] <nicknoper> yes i can get that
[05:52] <the_man> Nperil, have you downloaded unetbootin
[05:52] <Kamokow> (but I probably messed up horribly)
[05:52] <lifesengine> anyone speak fluent italian here?
[05:52] <the_man> it will download the latest image for you
[05:53] <the_man> and if your running your system off a flashdrive then just update when you booted into it?
[05:53] <NssOne> ok, well, i can tell you if you load one of the recovery options, you get a screen with some choices
[05:53] <Nperil> the_ cant say that i have
[05:53] <Nperil> the_man
[05:53] <NssOne> and you get get to a terminal with root access as one of the options
[05:53] <fattom> the_man: do you know what means Ubuntu uses to tell what is going on with the hardware (lid closes, AC disconnect, etc.)?
[05:53] <khensthoth> Jayce: How did you install wicd? Regarding network manager, have you got network-manager-gnome installed?
[05:54] <NssOne> if you can figure out the terminal commands to get what you need
[05:54] <the_man> fattom, can't say that i do.. not seasoned enough persay..
[05:54] <nicknoper> is that the same as ctrl+alt+f1 at login or do i have to do something different...yes i realize this sounds noobish, but i'm just a poor windows power user, this ubuntu stuff is like greek to me
[05:54] <Jayce> khensthoth - I just ran sudo apt-get install wicd, it auto-removed network manager and added wicd. No, I dont have the gnome one installed cause I'm on KDE.
[05:54] <fattom> it's alright.  Can't get bent out of shape at you for not knowing something I don't.
[05:54] <Jayce> wait I might have it here
[05:55] <greezmunkey> fatto, that would be acpi I believe
[05:55] <Nperil> well im trying to download all of the updates on a flash drive( ubuntu is on the hard disk of other pc) from a windows platform cause i have no net on the ubuntu platform
[05:55] <bllz> Does anybody know how to set Automatic Acoustic Managmenent parameters with hdparm?  I have 2 harddrives in a raid array and they're LOUD.
[05:55] <fattom> Damn ACPI!!!  Always causing trouble!
[05:55] <Nperil> but i dont know where to get them
[05:55] <NssOne> nicknoper, ah, ok, maybe it's a little complicated to get what you need
[05:55] <greezmunkey> fattom, acpi I belive, munged your nick earlier
[05:55] <Kamokow> llutz: I would like to thank you for your help good sir :)
[05:55] <NssOne> but if i understand you correctly, you want 8.04 update files?
[05:56] <Nperil> NssOne yes
[05:56] <khensthoth> Jayce: The #kubuntu channel might be more suitable for you, but have you got the plasma-widget-network-manager installed then?
[05:56] <NssOne> hrmmm
[05:56] <bllz> Nperil:  you're doing it wrong.  apt-get (the package manager on ubuntu) automatically decides what needs to be updated and gets it from the repositories.  It will be INSANELY annoying/difficult for you to do this mannually.  If you're running ubuntu, you will need a working internet connection.
[05:56] <NssOne> he says he has no net
[05:56] <llutz> Kamokow: np
[05:57] <Jayce> khensthoth - no, I did not install the plasma widget network mgr. I looked in add/remove for "manager" and found knetworkmanager. It looks like it was all 1 word, I didnt know that. BTW - Im banned in kubuntu, but we'll bite our tongues on that one so I dont get banned here too :P
[05:57] <fattom> greezmunkey: do you think I should start looking at Ubuntu's ACPI settings, or in the BIOS?
[05:57] <greezmunkey> fattom, I would start here: https://launchpad.net/acpi-support
[05:57] <Nperil> im trying to do away with windows all together, lol
[05:57] <NssOne> bllz, he has no net connection on the ubuntu platform
[05:58] <Jayce> khensthoth - yeah, I reinstalled knetworkmanager - no dice. I dont see it in the menu at all. :(
[05:58] <bllz> NssOne:  Yeah I saw that.  I'm saying he's going to pretty much need one to make ubuntu useful/pain-free
[05:58] <NssOne> is there a way a live-usb could update his ubuntu for him without it being a clean install?
[05:59] <Nperil> bllz if i can get all the files and the info ive got all the time in the world
[05:59] <nicknoper> any ideas on how to solve my problem, i've already reinstalled ubuntu once today, but as soon as i did my updates i started having problems again
[05:59] <nonix4> When will https://launchpad.net/bugs/492659 become public, since patch is already available?
[05:59] <bllz> Nperil:  to be honest, I wouldn't even know where to start
[05:59] <fattom> greezmunkey: That was already installed, but I have no idea what to do with it.
[05:59] <nicknoper> i'm in no hurry, this isn't my main computer
[05:59] <bllz> Nperil:  you can't even get to a dial-up connection?
[06:00] <khensthoth> Jayce: On my KDE system knetworkmanager is not installed. Doubt it is by default in Kubuntu. I've got plasma-widget-network-manager and plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed. If you install those two it should automatically install network-manager for you, and remove wicd if it's still there.
[06:00] <NssOne> Nperil, the solution i found for you in google is on the forums... which are down atm
[06:00] <Jayce> khensthoth -  sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-network-manager plasma-widget-networkmanagement        ??
[06:00] <Nperil> bllz: sure cant
[06:00] <khensthoth> Jayce: Yes.
[06:00] <NssOne> well, the result i got from google i should say
[06:01] <mgsmurf84> xk
[06:01] <Nperil> NssOne: thats a bad deal
[06:01] <chilli0> llutz, Hey u still there
[06:01] <Jayce> khensthoth - I had just assumed knetworkmanager is what I had before. This was a default install as of last night, so I wasnt too sure. I only recently came to the dar(K) side :P
[06:01] <wrapster> during the initial boot up.. if we enter into the grub then. find / -name menu.lst
[06:01] <wrapster> should list the path to that file right
[06:02] <roy_hobbs> is ubuntuforums.org hosted by ISS? http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1036
[06:02] <roy_hobbs> That looks very MS to me
[06:02] <bllz> Nperil:  the problem is that ubuntu really is designed around having an internet connection for these things.  AFAIK this will involve devling into the aptitude database and such... i don't know the details
[06:02] <peterchou> ubuntu 9.10 have no menu.lst
[06:02] <bllz> your best bet is probably to start a thread on ubuntuforums
[06:02] <Jayce> khensthoth - bingo, now I have it in applications. Underneath "Network Manager" it says KNetworkManager - thats why I thought I had it before.
[06:02] <llutz> chilli0: ?
[06:02] <fattom> just a silly question: Is it possible to add words to the Ubuntu default dictionary?  It's ridiculous that I have this little red line under the word "Ubuntu"
[06:02] <maco> roy_hobbs: that's V-Bulletin, not ISS
[06:02] <bllz> Nperil:  but to be perfectly straight with you, It's probably a waste of time.  if you're not connecting to the internet, you probably don't need the security updates
[06:02] <roy_hobbs> maco: it looks like the DNS errors from way back when
[06:03] <chilli0> Hi llutz How can i make the terminal not exit after the program dies ?
[06:03] <maco> !aptoncd | bllz, Nperil
[06:03] <khensthoth> Nperil: Would things like this help you? http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/05/06/update-or-install-applications-on-debianubuntu-without-an-internet-connection/
[06:03] <Nperil> bllz: alright, ill see what i can come up with
[06:03] <llutz> chilli0: man gnome-terminal
[06:03] <greezmunkey> fattom, have you looked into /etc/default/acpi-support yet? I mean read through the settings?
[06:03] <chilli0> llutz,  Big help thanks
[06:03] <Nperil> khensthoth: ill give it a shot,, cant hurt
[06:03] <fattom> greezmunkey - I'll have a look
[06:03] <Nperil> thanks guys!!!!!!!!!
[06:04] <rajeev_> Hi, I need help in removing Karmic from a Windows7 dual boot?
[06:04] <chilli0> llutz,  So man gnome-terminal -e ./file2     ?
[06:04] <Jayce> khensthoth - just a side question, what does the little number mean over the icon for the network manager? Do you happen to know>?
[06:04] <bllz> Nperil:  I didn't know about aptoncd.  that might be something for you to look into
[06:04] <greezmunkey> fattom, you may have to do some experimenting
[06:05] <khensthoth> Jayce: Nope. GNOME user here. =)
[06:05] <rajeev_> khensthoth: I hope you remember me. What I did now is installed Ubuntu 9.1 again
[06:05] <chilli0> llutz,  I dont know where it is in there
[06:05] <iain_> rajeev_, something like. 1) Format ubuntu partition and 2) run fixmbr from Windows Recovery Mode CD
[06:05] <NssOne> rajeev_, you can just use a live-usb, delete the ubuntu partition, and expand the win7 partition
[06:05] <fattom> greezmunkey - I LOVE experimenting.  That's why I'm a Linux guy!
[06:05] <NssOne> using gparted
[06:05] <marcobxbro1> quick question if I have dual boot with linux and windows, and I delete the linux partition will it automatically see the windows boot loader
[06:05] <rajeev_> I dont have windows recovery CD
[06:05] <iain_> rajeev_, don't use windows so wouldn't know :s
[06:05] <peterchou> oh en,i find another problem , i add acpi=off ,but when i system shutdown it will be halt
[06:05] <Jayce> khensthoth - hey man, nothing wrong with that! Linux - the power of CHOICE. Between KDE/Gnome/XFCE/RPM/Deb/TarGZ there's enough to go around for everyone. :P
[06:05] <Jayce> khensthoth - I always think of it like this. We're all having a beer - just different kinds. ;)
[06:05] <nonix4> peterchou: yeah, instead of menu.lst there is... bunch of files in /etc/grub.d/, as described at beginning of /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:05] <NssOne> rajeev_, use an ubuntu livecd/usb
[06:06] <rajeev_> NssOne: Yes I have that
[06:06] <Nperil> bllz: it might give me some ideas
[06:06] <bllz> Nperil:  sounds like a solution to your problem
[06:06] <NssOne> rajeev_, when it loads up, go to System->Administration->Gparted
[06:07] <bllz> I'd still make the ubuntuforms thread, but be sure to ask if that's a viable solution
[06:07] <khensthoth> rajeev_: So you now have perfectly fine Ubuntu and Grub2?
[06:07] <Nperil> bllz: thanks. ttyl
[06:07] <NssOne> use the partition editor to delete the ubuntu installed partitions, then expand the win7 partition back to full hd space
[06:07] <rajeev_> Yes
[06:07] <iain_> rajeev_, I presume you cna just run this in Windows: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392
[06:07] <NssOne> that's how you can delete ubuntu from your system
[06:08] <NssOne> then yeah, you would need to write windows to the mbr again
[06:08] <iain_> bootrec /FixMbr
[06:09] <peterchou> so there's no perfect solve this problem/
[06:09] <kwall> speaking of ubuntuforums, they seem to have a database problem just now
[06:09] <rajeev_> NssOne: Just this will do the trick http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392 ?
[06:09] <nicknoper> maybe i should just downgrade...9.04 never did this to me
[06:09] <NssOne> thatll fix your mbr
[06:10] <Jayce> I downgraded all of my systems to 9.04 :(
[06:10] <iain_> kwall, ah, compiledkernel is probably to blame there ... I'll look into it ;)
[06:10] <nicknoper> i like karmic's gui better though
[06:10] <Rajasun> Jayce: You do not have needed to
[06:10] <NssOne> i should dg to 9.04 also, since 9.10 is giving me these graphics issues
[06:10] <peterchou> I prefer to use new things
[06:10] <Jayce> rajasun - I had no choice, man
[06:10] <NssOne> rajeev_, you still need to remove ubuntu from your drive
[06:10] <nicknoper> NssOne: what graphics card do you have?
[06:11] <NssOne> it's an intel gma 945 i believe, for a netbook
[06:11] <Jayce> rajasun - on 3 of my desktops I run with multiple hard drives. 2 drives, 2 drives, and 4 drives in my 3 desktops. All 3 of them failed to recognize the drives properly with karmic. Karmic kept thinking they were raid, and 1 PC it just didnt detect anything besides the main drive.
[06:11] <NssOne> i can only get low res 800x600, which is lame on a 1024x768 screen
[06:11] <iain_> kwall, The slave database server crashed - again =/
[06:11] <Jayce> rajasun - I've had several data failures. Backup drives with redundancy is a MUUUUUST. Karmic failed before I even got to use it heavily.
[06:11] <kwall> iain_, that sucks
[06:12] <Jayce> rajasun - then when I put Kubuntu on my laptop, I put Kubuntu Karmic on it. Every time I installed the broadcom wifi driver, it would crash, completely, each time.  :(
[06:12] <nicknoper> so the graphics related issues are just 9.10 related and not brand related, i have a nvidia tnt2 in a desktop
[06:12] <Rajasun> Jayce: hmm
[06:12] <kwall> nicknoper, wow, tnt2? That's ancient.
[06:12] <Rajasun> Jayce: You said you had Ubuntu Jaunty on previously am I right?
[06:12] <Jayce> rajasun - dont get me wrong, I love *buntu man, much love to the developers, but karmic just wasnt a home run like the other versions were.
[06:12] <iain_> kwall, at least it wasn't as bad as last year. We were hosted behind a proxy server that crashed once every week/2 weeks.
[06:12] <Jayce> rajasun - Im running jaunty on ALL of my machines now.
[06:12] <nicknoper> lol i had an extra desktop laying around and i wanted to try ubuntu
[06:13] <Rajasun> Jayce: No previously
[06:13] <hyperstream> whats wrong with karmic ?!
[06:13] <kwall> nicknoper, the 20th century called and wants its GPU back. :)
[06:13] <Jayce> rajasun - Im not sure I understand what you mean...? I'm on 9.04..
[06:13] <Rajasun> Jayce: Did you tried to do a dist-upgrade from your previous Jaunty install to karmic?
[06:13] <nicknoper> lol
[06:13] <hyperstream> only issue i have is cant have two monitors on this laptop (intel) just get black screens
[06:14] <Jayce> rajasun - oh no way man
[06:14] <s0undt3ch> hello ppl
[06:14] <Jayce> fresh installs all the way
[06:14] <nicknoper> kwall: thats fine, it can have it back solong as it gives me a new one in return
[06:14] <s0undt3ch> how can I shut-up apt about unmet deps for a specific package?
[06:14] <Rajasun> Jayce: I have been dist-upgrading since 7.10 gutsy
[06:14] <Jayce> rajasun - I could probably try that, maybe it'd get me around the hard drive issue.
[06:14] <andy_l_> Is there a way to mount a filesystem in a normal file - kind of like how virtualbox creates a virtual filesystem inside a vdi file ??
[06:14] <Jayce> rajasun - but at the same token, 9.04 is solid, very solid, so I really have no "need" for karmic.
[06:15] <llutz> chilli0: use "xterm -hold -e cmd" if gnome-terminal doesn't do what your want
[06:15] <Madpilot> s0undt3ch, you generally don't want to...
[06:15] <nicknoper> but karmic LOOKS better!
[06:15] <chilli0> K tahnks
[06:15] <lint> hello world
[06:15] <kwall> nicknoper, just bustin' yer chops. I ran a Matrox G400, IIRC, well into 2002
[06:15] <lint> i love /
[06:15] <Jayce> I dont see how karmic looks any better. I just dump a theme on any linux OS I use anyway and run with it.
[06:16] <Jayce> karmic may look better than jaunty out of box, but like I said, gnome/kde-look.org, and it doesn't matter anyway :P
[06:16] <travalas> anybody know what's up with ubuntu forums?
[06:16] <s0undt3ch> Madpilot: I know, but in this specifica case, I do want to, but how?
[06:16] <NssOne> they be down
[06:16] <Rajasun> Jayce: There are some quirks, some minor irritatons but they aren't a bother a few dpkg tricks resolves them all. And fwiw, I don't use GUI tools for dist-upgrades. I trust only aptitude. :P
[06:16] <Jayce> travalas - no idea bro, they down :(
[06:16] <kwall> travalas, I read earlier that the slave db server crashed
[06:17] <nonix4> Jayce: well, jaunty still has no ssh-agent with working ssh-agent support, unlike hardy/intrepid/karmic?
[06:17] <Jayce> rajasun - I hear that bro. I dont expect to ever use karmic, to be honest. I run karmic on my spare desktop here so I could test out gnome shell (total barf, btw) but besides that I avoid it. I'm sure the devs are more focused on the upcoming LTS anyway, and I really cant blame them.
[06:17] <kwall> someone's working on it as we speak, so to sepak
[06:17] <nicknoper> kwall: nothing wrong with that, i had an ancient toshiba infinia with a 2 gig hd, win98se, and lets just say i owned calculators that had more ram than it up until probably 2003ish
[06:17] <Jayce> nonix4 - not sure? I dont really use ssh. I tried it once but that was it.
[06:17] <nonix4> *with working forwarding support
[06:17] <rob_p> No doubt, the forums will be back up soon.
[06:17] <Rajasun> Jayce: You are free to choose...it is your choice...if Jaunty works fine for you, sure, by all means stick to it
[06:17] <chilli0> llutz, Is there the same thing for gnome terminal ?
[06:18] <Jayce> rajasun - yeah, dont get me wrong... <3 *buntu, but karmic just didnt play nice with my hardware. I gave it 4 chances and each one failed. :(
[06:18] <Rajasun> Jayce: yeah perhaps when it is time for the next LTS...you can consider performing a dist-upgrade then
[06:18] <what> very good words Rajasun
[06:18] <what> linux is indeed about choice
[06:18] <Rajasun> what: heh
[06:18] <Jayce> rajasun - like I said earlier
[06:19] <Jayce> rajasun - we're all drinking beer, just different kinds
[06:19] <what> personally i cannot recomomend highly enough skipping this release
[06:19] <plytheman> Can someone help me with samba?  I'm on crunchbang trying to access a windows network drive and smbtree is insisting it's not installed and nothing I try with samba works...
[06:19] <what> the fact of the matter is this was 6 months from being ready.
[06:19] <greezmunkey> Rajasun, 10.something will be the next LTS - is that still true?
[06:19] <Jayce> 10.04, yes
[06:19] <Jayce> its true
[06:19] <what> if you MUST install this version of this distro, PLEASE USE A SEPERATE VAR
[06:19] <Jayce> and a single hard drive :P
[06:19] <what> i'd say around 50% of the systems ive tried have that bug
[06:19] <what> Jayce: no thats not needeed
[06:20] <Rajasun> Jayce: Yeah...this is what Linux and Open Source is all about or should be -  Respecting the choice of the individual user and we do most of the time that is
[06:20] <Jayce> what - sure it is
[06:20] <what> for that you do the install, boot with disk to first partition, and run grub from os
[06:20] <nicknoper> so, in anyones personal opinion should i dg to 9.04 or ug to 10.04 beta?
[06:20] <Jayce> what - karmic didnt detect the backup hdd's in any of my systems
[06:20] <what> from os you then choose option to install grub2 on ALL disks, and your good
[06:20] <nicknoper> cus karmic is not working out
[06:20] <warinthepocket> is there a -n type option for scp like there is for cp?
[06:20] <Jayce> rajasun - yeah bro, I hear that
[06:20] <Rajasun> greezmunkey: 10.04 that is...yeah
[06:20] <what> Jayce: you mean fdisk -l as root doesnt see them?
[06:20] <nonix4> what: separate var for...? Haven't encountered any data-loss things yet.
[06:20] <NssOne> so, anybody else forced to use low-res mode in karmic?
[06:20] <nonix4> (with separater var)
[06:20] <Jayce> what - it sees them, but I cant mount them with fstab
[06:21] <what> nonix4: /var/log specifically
[06:21] <peterchou> who can help me, when i use usb device i cant boot my ubuntu, when i usb acpi=off in grub ,it can boot ,however my cpu fan will always run ,and when i shutdown my computer,it will be system halt? it's headache
[06:21] <what> it gets tossed open, full, fills and dosses you out of /
[06:21] <hyperstream> nicknoper, if your looking for something thats more reliable what would you guess?
[06:21] <what> mostly pulse/alsa fuckups
[06:21] <what> screwups sorry, very vehament on this one thing
[06:21] <Rajasun> greezmunkey: 10.10 will be the release that is likely to feature GNOME 3.0 with GNOME Shell, Zeitgeist, mutter and all
[06:21] <greezmunkey> Rajasun, well I'm glad I listened to all the advice here and created a seperate /home :) seein as a dist upgrade is in my immediate future :)
[06:21] <NssOne> 800x600 on a 16:9 screen sucks
[06:21] <holmser> is there a way to undelete files on ubuntu?
[06:21] <what> greezmunkey: thats rule 0
[06:21] <what> greezmunkey: that way you can keep user data and reinstall
[06:22] <greezmunkey> yup
[06:22] <what> its the same on windows; move profiles to d:\
[06:22] <Rajasun> greezmunkey: heh good for you :)
[06:22] <nicknoper> see i would dg and have no problem, but i can put a theme on there because of my ancient grapics card and i like the look of karmics gu
[06:22] <hyperstream> peterchou, it will system halt ? as in shut down when you tell it to shutdown?
[06:22] <nonix4> what: hmm seen them spam sometimes as well as apparmor... but guess I'm lucky with only 20 megs shown by du -sk
[06:22] <kwall> Had /home on its own partition since, oh, 1995
[06:22] <what> nonix4: run:
[06:22] <Rajasun> greezmunkey: I'm an old schooler...I have separate partitions for /, /var, /tmp, /home, etc
[06:22] <nicknoper> maybe i should learn to type
[06:22] <plytheman> does anyone know what I need to install to get smbtree?  I swear it worked last night and now my terminal claims I don't have that program
[06:22] <peterchou> ya
[06:22] <greezmunkey> Rajasun, like I said, I try to learn something every time (ps thanks everyone)
[06:22] <hyperstream> nicknoper, so pick, a nice GUI or something that works for you ...
[06:22] <what> skype/pidgin/audio player/firefox, constantly
[06:22] <what> enjoy ;)
[06:23] <what> tail -f /var/log/syslog or of course messages or even user.log
[06:23] <llutz> plytheman: smbclient
[06:23] <what> [meaning thats where the errors show up]
[06:23] <nicknoper> see, thats what i was saying, i can't pick a nice gui because my graphics card is too old to support a custom one, either that or i'm too stupid to put one on
[06:23] <s0undt3ch> Madpilot: is there a way?
[06:23] <Rajasun> greezmunkkey: We are constantly learning new things from everyone everyday including here on this network
[06:24] <hyperstream> nicknoper, so you know the answer to the question ?, so what are you saying lol ?, or what are you trying to ask ?
[06:24] <plytheman> llutz, thanks, I've installed so much smb stuff and none of it has seemed to be working, hopefully this works now,,,
[06:24] <peterchou> hyperstrean: 3 weeks till i install ubuntu 9.10 ,i haven't find a way to solve this problem
[06:24] <greezmunkey> nicknoper, see if you can get a supported card, maybe a trade or something...:/
[06:24] <Madpilot> s0undt3ch, I think so, but can't remember details. Not a recommended procedure, usually, but you seem to know that...
[06:25] <peterchou> hyperstream : and i ask for help to irc
[06:25] <nicknoper> lemme install 9.04 and i'll get back to you on that one
[06:25] <llutz> plytheman: apt-file search smbtree  -> smbclient: /usr/bin/smbtree
[06:25] <hyperstream> peterchou, the system is suposed to halt when you 'Shut it down', as to your other issues, i am unsure about them, sorry mate
[06:25] <plytheman> I did smbtree and it asked for a password, so I put in my root password and it did nothing =S
[06:25] <s0undt3ch> Madpilot:  I needed to install a java sdk on a headless setup which did not required all the X packages it was pulling
[06:26] <llutz> plytheman: smbtree is in package "smbclient"
[06:26] <peterchou> hyperstream:think you the some all
[06:26] <greezmunkey> plytheman, that just means samba didn't see any MS networks, are you running a firewall?
[06:26] <workstation> /dev/sdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[06:26] <plytheman> llutz, I installed smbclient just now, asked for my pass but returned nothing
[06:26] <nicknoper> i'm gonna go read me some userfriendly comics i'll be back later with what i'm sure will be another supid question
[06:26] <plytheman> greezmunkey, not that I know of...
[06:26] <llutz> plytheman: sry i'm not using samba/smb
[06:27] <archana> tu.com
[06:27] <plytheman> llutz, all good, thanks anyway
[06:27] <jennie> I am running ubuntu 9.04 and if i upgrade to 9.10 from update manager then how much files size ubuntu will download to update to 9.10 ?
[06:27] <archana> hi
[06:27] <greezmunkey> plytheman, in a terminal sudo iptables -L, if you get three "empty" catagories, then you are not.
[06:27] <archana> where in home is the bookmarks of firefox ?
[06:27] <greezmunkey> eh or it's not working ;)
[06:28] <kwall> archana, $HOME/.mozilla/firefox/mumble
[06:28] <kwall> where "mumble" is your profile name
[06:28] <vimpulse> archana:  why do you ask?
[06:28] <plytheman> greezmunkey, it says: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) tafget prot opt source destination
[06:28] <peterchou> i have download ubuntu 9.10 ,it's about 700MB so i think i wont be so large
[06:28] <plytheman> *target
[06:29] <plytheman> greezmunkey, says that three times, does that count as empty?
[06:29] <greezmunkey> plytheman, yes
[06:29] <vimpulse> peterchou:  your last line didn't make sense.  Please rephrase it more clearly.  Or would you like us to refer you to an IRC channel where you can speak your first language?
[06:29] <Rajasun> jennie: Can't remember...depends on how many packages you already have installed on your system, some may have become obseleted since 9.04, others may rhave acquired new, additional dependences and then there are also your new apps...probably a few hundred MBs...not sure
[06:30] <jennie> Rajasun, could you tell me apprx time ?
[06:30] <peterchou> vimpulse:
[06:30] <greezmunkey> plytheman, are you trying to connect to a windows box?
[06:30] <peterchou> vimpulse:ok
[06:30] <vimpulse> peterchou:  what is your first language?
[06:30] <plytheman> greezmunkey, yes
[06:30] <peterchou> chinese
[06:31] <archana> what is the command to REINstall firefox ?
[06:31] <Rajasun> jennie: it depends...probably about 2 hours...depending on things like internet connection, ram, cpu, etc
[06:31] <vimpulse> archana:  again, why do you ask?
[06:31] <archana> vimpulse, my firefox-3.6 is no more working
[06:31] <archana> vimpulse, command to reinstall firefox ?
[06:31] <vimpulse> archana:  what's not working?
[06:31] <vimpulse> !tell peterchou about zh
[06:31] <archana> vimpulse, firefox-3.6
[06:32] <chilli0> llutz, Is there the same thing for gnome terminal ?
[06:32] <greezmunkey> plytheman, on the winbox, open a dos window and type net config workstation, it should show you what the winbox is configured for. Additionally "net view" should show you its shares. Do this to make sure it's configured correctly first!
[06:32] <archana> command to reinstall firefox ?
[06:32] <vimpulse> archana:  you are repeating far too often.
[06:32] <vimpulse> archana:  sorry, you aren't giving me enough information about the problem.  I am busy and can't help you very much now.\
[06:32] <vimpulse> Can anyone help archana figure out what is wrong with his/her Fx 3.6?
[06:32] <davep> hmm, my ath5k card is refusing to go into master mode, even though the 2.6.31 kernel is meant to support it
[06:32] <llutz> chilli0: i don't know, if theres nothing in the man-page, i doubt it
[06:33] <Cuddles> question why is it when i name@name:~$ cd /dev is that file spose to be full of files?
[06:33] <davep> is there an (easy) way to upgrade to a 2.6.32 kernel?
[06:33] <chilli0> k darmn
[06:33] <llutz> chilli0: whats wrong with xterm?
[06:33] <Cuddles> I dont remember it being that full
[06:33] <maco> Cuddles: that directory is virtual. those filepointers are how software accesses devices on your computer
[06:33] <maco> Cuddles: its actually less full in 9.10 than in, say, 6.06
[06:33] <plytheman> greezmunkey, before I go look, I know there are folders set to 'share' on it, and last night even I ran smbtree and could see my network. though I couldn't mount it for the life of me.  Now tonight even smbtree doesn't want to work.  The only thing I've done today was install Tor but I can't figure how that would mess up samba
[06:34] <Cuddles> so its spose to be full
[06:34] <Rajasun> davep: there is but I'm not too sure if that is really what you want. There are a few ppa repos. But if the current kernel works fine for you, stick to it. It is the officially supported one.
[06:34] <plytheman> greezmunkey, dunno if any of that helps or changes anything
[06:34] <Cuddles> cuz its got tons of files in it... ptyb1,ptyb2
[06:34] <Cuddles> etc
[06:34] <maco> Cuddles: yes. every hard disk, every tty, etc. ... all in there
[06:34] <Delta__> Does ALSA utilize alot of CPU cycles for anyone else here?
[06:34] <Cuddles> I see
[06:34] <kwall> archana: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox-3.6
[06:34] <maco> Cuddles: theyre nto files that actually take up space
[06:34] <vimpulse> Delta__:  what is the problem?  Make sure to prefix "vimpulse: " first, as I am not watching my screen.
[06:34] <maco> Cuddles: just a way of representing all your system's devices
[06:34] <Delta__> Oh, and I removed PulseAudio from my system
[06:35] <vimpulse> kwall:  do you really think that will help archana fix his/her problem?  :)
[06:35] <davep> unsupported kernels dont bother me
[06:35] <Cuddles> ohh I see
[06:35] <kwall> archana, but what exactly isn't working in firefox ?
[06:35] <davep> but ap mode would simplify things
[06:35] <kwall> vimpulse, no, it won't help, but it will answer his/her question
[06:35] <Rajasun> davep: then check launchpad
[06:35] <Cuddles> just did df and was wondering why some files were changing size
[06:35] <Cuddles> with out me adding files to them
[06:35] <davep> alright thanks
[06:35] <meowbuntu> hi
[06:35] <maco> Cuddles: /proc and /sys are also virtual
[06:35] <Cuddles> maybe its my imagination
[06:35] <Rajasun> davep: you have been warned though
[06:35] <vimpulse> kwall:  I still think your second line was the right thing to say, not your first line with the apt-get command in it.  :)
[06:35] <davep> :D
[06:35] <meowbuntu> i need the terminal command that displays my os info please
[06:35] <greezmunkey> plytheman, uh unfamiliar with any possible interactions between tor and windows networking. Disable tor and try again.
[06:36] <Delta__> vimpulse: I'm programming with libao, and it looks like, since I removed PulseAudio from my system that it's costing more for Audio Output
[06:36] <Rajasun> :P
[06:36] <vimpulse> meowbuntu:  what info?  why?
[06:36] <vimpulse> Delta__:  is your computer too slow to use now?
[06:36] <Cuddles> I have so much to learn lol
[06:36] <greezmunkey> meowbuntu, uname -r
[06:36] <NssOne> so, anybody getting low-res only display with karmic? i'm using a netbook with intel gma 945 video
[06:36] <meowbuntu> vimpulse, general info. such as partitions size. os types ect.
[06:36] <chilli0> llutz,  Dont like the look lol
[06:36] <NssOne> can't do anything other than 800x600
[06:37] <Delta__> vimpulse: no, but it's not very nice for the audio driver to use 7-10% of the CPU
[06:37] <kwall> NssOne, not here.
[06:37] <vimpulse> Delta__:  but if you have CPU cycles to spare, then why do you care?  :)
[06:37] <plytheman> greezmunkey, sure enough, killed tor and smbtree returned the box I'm looking for.  Weird...
[06:37] <kwall> NssOne: Any useful clues in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[06:37] <NssOne> kwall, you using a netbook of any kind?
[06:37] <NssOne> kwall, one sec
[06:37] <kwall> Yes, $dayjob
[06:37] <mokmeister> Anybody come across a fix for slow firefox 3.5.5 on 9.10 AMD64?
[06:38] <maco> Cuddles: if you wanna learn about /proc and /sys look at procfs and sysfs in google
[06:38] <llutz> chilli0: i prefer working tools, not fancy looking dummies :)
[06:38] <Delta__> vimpulse: because I'm trying to make this program as invisible on the system resources as possible
[06:38] <vimpulse> meowbuntu:  you only answered one of my two questions.  Until you answer the second, I definitely can't help you.  :)
[06:38] <vimpulse> Delta__:  why?
[06:38] <skyl> mokmeister, chromium on 32 bit >:|
[06:38] <Cuddles> Ill do that thanks
[06:38] <chilli0> llutz,  Ill use it thoe heh
[06:38] <greezmunkey> plytheman, windows "security" generally wants a client name or something, is your winbox running windows firewall?
[06:38] <Guest38031> hi
[06:38] <Delta__> vimpulse: because I run Folding@Home
[06:38] <sudo_nano> hello
[06:38] <skyl> I guess that would fall in the work-around category
[06:38] <NssOne> Fatal server error:
[06:38] <NssOne> no screens found
[06:38] <mokmeister> skyl ;)
[06:38] <vimpulse> Guest38031:  please change your nickname.  /nick NewNickname
[06:38] <meowbuntu> greezmunkey, not enough info.
[06:39] <Delta__> vimpulse: and because I like playing games, and not being lagged down by the audio driver
[06:39] <sudo_nano> i am having problems with my networking
[06:39] <greezmunkey> meowbuntu, what else do you need?
[06:39] <vimpulse> Delta__:  it is still not worth it to spend your time just to speed up Folding@Home.  If the games go at too slow an FPS, then come back and ask us for help again.  :)
[06:39] <Delta__> vimpulse: I just find it odd that the audio driver would be using that much anyways
[06:39] <greezmunkey> meowbuntu, try uname -a
[06:40] <plytheman> greezmunkey, it's my brothers box, I'd assume its got the default firewall on it.  I just tried to run: smbmount smb:\\THESTATION\Public /mnt/the_station/ and it told me it couldn't resolve the address
[06:40] <Delta__> vimpulse: is there an IRC channel for ALSA?
[06:40] <vimpulse> Delta__:  we are always low on supporter time, and so to diagnose that would not be an ideal use of our time.  I don't know.  /msg alis list *alsa*
[06:40] <Delta__> vimpulse: because this bugs be greatly
[06:40] <greezmunkey> plytheman, you will need to install winbind for that to work
[06:40] <xrx> meowbuntu: for the ubuntu version info (not in uname to my knowledge): cat /etc/issue
[06:40] <kwall> NssOne: Seems like the proper driver for the Intel graphics mightn't be loaded.
[06:40] <Rajasun> Delta__: there is at #alsa
[06:40] <greezmunkey> plytheman, google it and read up on it forst though.
[06:41] <Delta__> vimpulse: Thanks for your time
[06:41] <greezmunkey> first
[06:41] <sudo_nano> OK, so this is my interfaces file http://pastebin.com/d53cc7721
[06:41] <vimpulse> Delta__:  you are welcome.  I suggest, again, that you not spend the Alsa channel's time either.
[06:41] <sudo_nano> and it will only work with wlan for about 10 seconds then stop
[06:41] <D4e5> hello
[06:41] <plytheman> greezmunkey, lol, just installed it... could it be bad without reading up on it first?
[06:41] <D4e5> Madpilot
[06:41] <greezmunkey> plytheman, I guess that depends...lol
[06:42] <Madpilot> D4e5, yes?
[06:42] <D4e5> are forums down ?
[06:42] <sudo_nano> D4e5, i think so
[06:42] <greezmunkey> !topic > D4e5
[06:42] <BalSak> !ubuntuforums
[06:42] <greezmunkey> whoa it worked hehe
[06:42] <BalSak> uf offline?
[06:43] <sudo_nano> anyone can help with my networking issue??
[06:43] <Delta__> vimpulse: I see this as a major flaw in the system, unless the audio driver is supposed to eat cpu like this
[06:43] <BalSak> sudo_nano: wazup?
[06:43] <kwall> sudo_nano, so, the wired interface keeps working?
[06:43] <D4e5> I apologize Madpilot to disturb you
[06:43] <vimpulse> greezmunkey:  xrx:  you are telling meowbuntu various commands without finding out why he needs "general OS info".  Also, he didn't even tell *me* why he needs it, even after I asked.  I think it is not worth it to continue trying to answer such an ill-defined question.  :)
[06:43] <sudo_nano> kwall, no the wlan does for 10 senconds and the eth0 not at all
[06:44] <sudo_nano> this is my file http://pastebin.com/d53cc7721
[06:44] <greezmunkey> vimpulse, those were off the top and such, no sweat to me :)
[06:44] <sudo_nano> i am temp using dhcp on eth0
[06:44] <BalSak> if ubuntuforums offline?
[06:44] <kwall> !topic > BalSak
[06:44] <vimpulse> Delta__:  I think you shouldn't worry unless you are low on CPU.  Maybe it's because of something *you* are doing with libao.  Supporters' time is valuable, and unless your games are running at low FPS, you are spending other people's (supporters') time I think unnecessarily.
[06:44] <oldtopman> balsak someone e,se asked tn
[06:45] <robbmunson> This isnt the place to ask about the forums, a more fitting place would possibly be #ubuntuforums :)
[06:45] <kwall> sudo_nano, the interfaces look fine
[06:45] <BalSak> thanks
[06:45] <robbmunson> I mean the status of the forums...
[06:45] <sudo_nano> kwall, thats one i sort of use on another computer, but i have updated the static IPs to suite one,
[06:45] <jennie> I got ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso, how can i upgrade to 9.20 from 9.04 ???
[06:46] <sudo_nano> kwall, would you mind a PM?
[06:46] <kwall> sudo_nano, not at all
[06:46] <kwall> kind of noisy in here
[06:46] <BalSak> mk
[06:46] <BalSak> bb
[06:46] <vimpulse> jennie:  your question contains a mistake.  Fix it then try asking the channel again.  :)
[06:46] <Delta__> vimpulse: I value CPU time, I would hope the Ubuntu devs think the same
[06:47] <llutz> jennie: there's no 9.20, and 20 -> 04 would be a downgrade, which is nearly impossible
[06:47] <jennie> *dorry its 9.10
[06:47] <jennie> *sorry
[06:47] <llutz> jennie: sry from 04,
[06:47] <plytheman> well, I can't see the smbtree anymore... whats the easiest way to mount a network drive from a windows box?  this is starting to drive me nuts
[06:47] <vimpulse> Delta__:  human time is more valuable than CPU time.  And again, your problem is probably only on your PC, not on all Alsa users' PCs.
[06:47] <greezmunkey> vimpulse, :/
[06:47] <workstation> I am running grub-install /dev/sdb2, which is a extended partition, which has sdb5 and sdb6 for logical partitions so where does the grub information get stored. it is a external hd by thw way
[06:47] <O__o> hi guys, which program is best at creating vector graphics like eps file?
[06:47] <vimpulse> greezmunkey:  what?
[06:47] <llutz> jennie: afaik you cannot upgrade using the live cd, just reinstall
[06:48] <jennie> llutz, i have ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso not alternate cd , do i need to download the alternate cd for upgrading?
[06:48] <vimpulse> llutz:  why suggest reinstalling without suggesting using the Ubuntu updates manager to upgrade?
[06:48] <robbmunson> jennie: you can only upgrade using the -alternate iso....
[06:48] <oldtopman> llutz, cant you upgrade through update manager
[06:48] <robbmunson> so yes jennie :)
[06:48] <llutz> vimpulse: i haven't suggested anything at all
[06:48] <plytheman> 0__0, inkscape seems good, but im no graphic designer so that's my best guess
[06:48] <robbmunson> jennie: or you can do an in place upgrade using the tools provided in Ubuntu itself without downloading an ISO.
[06:48] <robbmunson> !upgrade
[06:48] <jennie> whats the difference between alternate cd and live CD , although both are under 700mb
[06:48] <plytheman> O__o, inkscape seems good, but I've never used it, so I can't say for sure
[06:48] <vimpulse> llutz:  ah.  I misinterpreted your two words "just reinstall".  I see they are about what she *can* do with her CD, not what she *should* do.
[06:49] <llutz> vimpulse: that's it
[06:49] <oldtopman> plytheman alt install has no windo wanager bootup so runs in 196mb of ram
[06:49] <vimpulse> plytheman:  perhaps Inkscape or Adobe Illustrator run in WINE.  Go to #inkscape, tell them what you need to draw, and what tools you are used to, and see what they say.
[06:49] <robbmunson> jennie: one contains a full working clone of Ubuntu in which you can use "right now" and one you must install before youre able to fully utilise its features.
[06:50] <SeaPhor> vimpulse, why dont you just answer the ppl asking for support?
[06:50] <robbmunson> jennie: amongst other things (but this is the main difference)
[06:50] <vimpulse> SeaPhor:  I didn't talk directly to jennie because llutz was already talking to her.
[06:50] <timmy_> why does my mouse disapear every time http cache cleaner runs
[06:50] <vimpulse> SeaPhor:  I left it up to llutz what to advise her.
[06:50] <plytheman> oldtopman, not sure what you mean
[06:50] <jennie> robbmunson :- alternate is the full working clone and liv cd is'must install before to use fully ' ???
[06:50] <vimpulse> timmy_:  dunno.  Why would you want to use an "http cache cleaner" tool anyway though?  Just curious.
[06:51] <arooni-mobile2> hi folks!  having trouble mounting /dev/md1 as my home partition.  md1 is a raid 1-0 device across two hard drives.  running karmic.  i changed nothing except for the locatoin of the PC (moved it without dropping it).  now when i try to mount /dev/md1 i see: "EXT3-fs: unable to read spuerblock; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mda1" ....   what should i do now?
[06:51] <greezmunkey> timmy_, maybe a problem when the pointer changes to the spinner?
[06:51] <vimpulse> greezmunkey:  what did "vimpulse, :/" mean?
[06:51] <oldtopman> plytheman, talking from a ds gimme a min
[06:51] <plytheman> oldtopman, sure thing, no rush
[06:51] <timmy_> nah i got a spinner all good
[06:51] <artscience> anyone familiar with triple booting on a macbook?
[06:51] <greezmunkey> timmy_, not sure past that though...
[06:51] <robbmunson> jennie: you reversed my statement... Live CD is a perfect working clone of an install, you dont HAVE to install it to the hard drive for it to give you a desktop...the alternate is just the opposite.
[06:52] <elconsulto> does anyone know how to get a usb gamepad working in 9.10?
[06:52] <vimpulse> !anyone > artscience
[06:52] <timmy_> idk even know what http cache cleaner is.. i assumed it was a built in service or something
[06:52] <vimpulse> artscience:  :)
[06:52] <artscience> I have an older intel based macbook. I got a new harddrive, already installed mac osx used boot camp to install a windows xp partition, then used ipartition to split the mac partition into two HFS and 40gb of free space
[06:52] <vimpulse> timmy_:  I don't know what it is.  Where did you see it?  What does it look like?
[06:52] <artscience> the free space is supposed to be for ubuntu
[06:53] <artscience> I want to be careful to install this correctly and make sure GRUB is installed on the partition (since I'm using rEFIt) as I'm not keen to reinstalling everything I just did (I've already had to do that from a previously failed method)
[06:53] <davep> hmm. lilo needs to be re-run, even though /vmlinuz is a symlink
[06:53] <LanSiir> plytheman, the regular install boots gnome
[06:53] <timmy_> nothing.. it just shows a "starting http cache cleaner" on the taskbar and then when that disapears my pointer cums back
[06:53]  * davep should have used grub.
[06:54] <LanSiir> then an installer app a la osx installer
[06:54] <greezmunkey> artscience, off topic, but quick: how long to installl osx?
[06:54] <vimpulse> timmy_:  how long does it take until the mouse comes back?
[06:54] <artscience> about an hour
[06:54] <plytheman> LanSiir, I'm on openbox right now, running Crunchbang which, as I understand it, is a light version of ubuntu
[06:54] <robbmunson> jennie: have I fulfilled your query with a fitting response?
[06:54] <LanSiir> greezo
[06:54] <davep> 2.6.32 loading...
[06:54] <artscience> maybe a little more
[06:54] <LanSiir> greezmonkey 2-3hr
[06:54] <timmy_> vimpulse, as soon as the taskbar button goes away
[06:54] <LanSiir> on ppc mac
[06:54] <davep> booted!
[06:55] <vimpulse> timmy_:  If it only causes you a few seconds of inconvenience, then please do not ask us about the mouse disappearing.  Yes, it's a problem, but we need to focus on more severe problems from other people.
[06:55] <davep> everything working. wireless ap mode still not working.
[06:55] <vimpulse> timmy_:  We are busy.
[06:55] <timmy_> wat a fag
[06:55] <Sparkie> whats a good virus protection for ubuntu?
[06:55] <elconsulto> does anyone know how to get a usb gamepad working in 9.10?
[06:56] <NssOne> clam
[06:56] <LanSiir> plytheman i am oldtop man
[06:56] <davep> viruses are few and far between for ubuntu, i wouldnt worry
[06:56] <plytheman> clamav it's called, right?
[06:56] <NssOne> yeah
[06:56] <SeaPhor> ty Flannel
[06:56] <NssOne> clamav
[06:56] <plytheman> LanSiir, heya, wb
[06:56] <NssOne> i still use it just in case
[06:56] <arooni-mobile> hi folks!  having trouble mounting /dev/md1 as my home partition.  md1 is a raid 1 device across two hard drives.  running karmic.  i changed nothing except for the locatoin of the PC (moved it without dropping it).  now when i try to mount /dev/md1 i see: "EXT3-fs: unable to read spuerblock; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mda1" ....   what should i do now?
[06:56] <RSMITH16384> hi
[06:57] <LanSiir> ds crashed, havent been timed out, thus thr
[06:57] <artscience> ok I'm using an ubuntu live cd and I'm at the "prepare disk space" part
[06:57] <Sparkie> davep, dad insists i get one, but he would believe that they're not a threat for ubuntu, so the only way to stop him complaining is to just get it
[06:57] <RSMITH16384> i need a human that can test 2 urls to see if my port forwarding works
[06:57] <LanSiir> rhe use of lansiir (curses enter button)
[06:57] <eylisian> Sparkie: if you want to run checks against rootkits you can try out chkrootkit as well as rkhunter.
[06:57] <Sparkie> kk ty
[06:57] <Mendocino> Ola bruderz
[06:57] <artscience> however...it seems that ubuntu wants to install to partition #3 which I believe is my windows partition
[06:58] <khensthoth> artscience: Select the manual partitioning option
[06:58] <Mendocino> Have everyone da FuckBuntu?:)
[06:58] <LanSiir> artscience dlo ma ual
[06:58] <llutz> RSMITH16384: enable nat-loopback, test yourself :)
[06:58] <davep> the change of a random individual having a rooted ubuntu is approximately NOTHING
[06:58] <davep> :P
[06:58] <artscience> should I use ipartition to format the free space I reserved for ubuntu  to fat32?
[06:58] <eylisian> Sparkie: both are best run against a pretty recent if not new install if possible.
[06:58] <Mendocino> Sziasztok Dicsoseges tesvereim
[06:58] <Sparkie> are there any other virusus?
[06:58] <LanSiir> (curses spaxe bar)
[06:58] <RSMITH16384> anyone get a login screen here? ftp://98.119.102.121
[06:59] <davep> honestly, viruses wouldnt target ubuntu because almost everyone uses windows/mac.
[06:59] <nevart> you guys are talking about a virus that hits linux?
[06:59] <khensthoth> RSMITH16384: Sure.
[06:59] <RSMITH16384> you got a login screen?
[06:59] <travmon> malaware  fond  @ gnome-look  in  uploaded   theme
[06:59] <LanSiir> artscience format to ext3 unless u use windoze
[06:59] <eylisian> davep: just botherders looking for servers.
[06:59] <davep> if you paint a target on your head
[07:00] <llutz> virusses aren't a problem for *nix yet, rootkits and misconfigured services are
[07:00] <davep> then maybe there might be a rootkit
[07:00] <eylisian> davep: slow ssh brute force attacks and a rootkit later.
[07:00] <khensthoth> RSMITH16384: Login prompt asking me for Login and Password
[07:00] <davep> heh
[07:00] <artscience> why unless I use windoze?
[07:00]  * eylisian shrugs
[07:00] <RSMITH16384> sweet
[07:00] <artscience> what are the consequences?
[07:00] <Flannel> nevart: #ubuntu-offtopic for that.  And it wasn't a virus, just a trojan.
[07:00] <zerq> Sparkie: there's also rkhunter which is the same idea as chkrootrit
[07:00] <maco> travmon: aye. malware can certainly be made. its simply social engineering that determines whether you choose to install it
[07:00] <zerq> er.. chkrootkit
[07:00] <artscience> because I DO have a windows xp partition
[07:00] <LanSiir> artscience cause windozs
[07:00] <RSMITH16384> how about  http://98.119.102.121:16384 should get a webpage
[07:00] <LanSiir> dont read ext3
[07:00] <davep> add AllowUsers to sshd
[07:00] <LanSiir> linux like ext3
[07:00] <Mendocino> Yes, Ubuntu releases contains a few dozens of bugs and trojans brotha:D
[07:00] <islington> is ubuntuforums down?
[07:00] <zerq> lulz
[07:00] <davep> add all that actually need it. dont add root.
[07:01] <plytheman> wth, smbtree asks for a password, if I enter mine, I get nothing.  If I leave it blank I get my network tree
[07:01] <maco> islington: yes, the database server flopped again
[07:01] <eylisian> anyone here using Sunbird?
[07:01] <islington> maco: :(
[07:01] <artscience> oh well my windows part doesn't need to read the linux part I have an external fat32 for that
[07:01] <zerq> anyone get WoW 3.3 working in wine yet?  It's bombing with some lame visual C error for me
[07:01] <Beefcakes> how do I list my NICs in ubuntu?
[07:01] <davep> !
[07:01] <LanSiir> islington YES its in thr topic now
[07:01] <davep> hostapd worked!
[07:01] <khensthoth> RSMITH16384: Doesn't seem to be working.
[07:01] <maco> Beefcakes: ifconfig
[07:01] <llutz> Beefcakes: ifconfig -a
[07:01] <eylisian> printing from Sunbird actually. it prints the fist event of the day last and everything else correctly.
[07:01] <RSMITH16384> ok thanks brb
[07:02] <Beefcakes> ty
[07:02] <davep> wpa appears to be set up
[07:02]  * davep dances.
[07:02] <Beefcakes> pan0 = bluetooth?
[07:02] <nevart> ah... this is a virus in windoze that affects linux, not a virus that runs in linux itself?
[07:02] <llutz> Beefcakes: yes
[07:02] <llutz> davep: what wifi-chipset?
[07:02] <davep> ath5k
[07:02] <llutz> k
[07:02] <davep> didnt work with the standard kernel
[07:03] <davep> an unofficial 2.6.32 works.
[07:03] <artscience> anywho excuse me if I'm stating/asking the obvious but I'm really trying to avoid reinstallation...so I'm at the manual install for ubuntu..I should just select free space click new partition and create an ext3 right?
[07:03] <LanSiir> artscience pm ks less busy
[07:03] <LanSiir> h
[07:03] <plytheman> LanSiir, I can see the network tree now... now how do I mount the folder I want from the computer?
[07:04] <plytheman> LanSiir, smbmount smb:\\COMPNAME\Folder /mnt/folder isn't working well...
[07:04] <eylisian> artscience: sounds like that'd dual boot next to whatever else was home.
[07:04] <Mendocino> please drop the Trash brotha
[07:04] <llutz> plytheman: smbmount //server/share /mnt/folder
[07:04] <artscience> eylisian: what do you mean by that?
[07:05] <oldtopman> crash reboot im back
[07:05] <oldtopman> oldtopman-lansiir-oldtopman
[07:05] <artscience> eylisian: just a reminder I'm trying to setup a triple boot of macosx, winxp, ubuntu
[07:05] <eylisian> artscience: well, I'm assuming the other not free space contains a previous Ubuntu install.
[07:05] <plytheman> llutz, says it couldn't resolve the address
[07:05] <nevart> wtf for?
[07:05] <llutz> plytheman: ping -c 2 server
[07:05] <plytheman> llutz, should I try using the IP rather than the name?  if so, how do I see the IP of it?
[07:06] <eylisian> artscience: then you should know whats what.
[07:06] <eylisian> artscience: whats the boot loader?
[07:06] <artscience> eylisian: nope you assumed wrong, the other not free space is two HFS parts and a windows xp part and efi
[07:06] <oldtopman> *claps* good luck (from the man who is working on dsl, puppy dual boot thum
[07:06] <artscience> I'm using rEFIt
[07:07] <eylisian> artscience: do you care about exiting ubuntu install?
[07:07] <llamazorz> Does anybody know what horrific mistakes they made to the hellanzb package?
[07:07] <Guest42443> i have authored a document and i want to remove my name from it. when i go into properties and look under the "document" tab, my full name still appears even though i have changed my "about me" settings along with my OOo settings.
[07:07] <greezmunkey> plytheman, did you try from Places/Network/Windows Network?
[07:07] <Wimbuntu> Sorry , Guys I need some help on ubuntu start up , I have an error process 735 that poped up this morning , any help out there
[07:08] <khensthoth> eylisian: artscience doesn't have an existing ubuntu installation. He/she is just trying to install Ubuntu on the free space.
[07:08] <artscience> he
[07:08] <alfonso> anyone familiar with mod_rewrite?
[07:08] <eylisian> khensthoth: thanks.
[07:08] <plytheman> greezmunkey, I'm on crunchbang, don't have those options and dunno what gui network browser #! came with, if any
[07:09] <arooni-mobile> hi folks!  having trouble mounting /dev/md1 as my home partition.  md1 is a raid 1 device across two hard drives.  running karmic.  i changed nothing except for the locatoin of the PC (moved it without dropping it).  now when i try to mount /dev/md1 i see: "EXT3-fs: unable to read spuerblock; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mda1" ....   what should i do now?
[07:09] <oldtopman> crash-reboot oldtopman-lansiir-oldtopman-lansiir
[07:09] <artscience> I'm trying to remember at what point it asks me if I want to install GRUB to the partition or the MBR
[07:09] <artscience> anyone remember?
[07:09] <oldtopman> ...oh, still oldtopman eh
[07:09] <eylisian> artscience: you might try gparted (live cd) and carve up your free space with it, then install ubuntu w/ no grub and let your fancy named loader do the loading.
[07:09] <oldtopman> artscience it doesnt
[07:10] <artscience> also what should I choose for my mount point given my current setup? or does it matter?
[07:10] <khensthoth> artscience: After you set up your partition, confirmation step -  there is either an "advanced" option, or it will ask you.
[07:10] <llutz> artscience: only alternate install cd asks you by default
[07:10] <artscience> oh ok
[07:10] <artscience> yeah I'm using thelive cd
[07:10] <greezmunkey> plytheman, ok, um crunckbang? I'll have to lookk that one up...
[07:11] <oldtopman> artscience i will not help u nemore cuz long ansrz on touch scrn kill me
[07:11] <Wimbuntu> ubuntu error main process 735 - what is this
[07:11] <artscience> canI install ubuntu without GRUB using the live cd?
[07:11] <oldtopman> :(
[07:11] <nevart> ok anybody know what is going on with the ubuntu forum?
[07:11] <greezmunkey> yikes typing in the dark ...
[07:11] <oldtopman> whoze next
[07:11] <artscience> touch screen? I don't blame ya
[07:11] <nevart> i get "database error" and can't access the fuorms
[07:11] <plytheman> greezmunkey, its a light version of ubuntu, afaik at least, its good but a steap learning curve as I'm finding =S
[07:11] <nevart> forums
[07:11] <greezmunkey> plytheman, cool thanks :)
[07:12] <artscience> ok here's a more pointed question
[07:12] <Madpilot> nevart, see /topic - ubuntuforums are down as far as anyone knows
[07:12] <oldtopman> nevart,........ counts to ten LOOK AT THE MOTD!
[07:12] <plytheman> greezmunkey, oldtopman, llutz my brother shut down his computer anyway, so I can't access it now...  2 am here, time to sleep, thanks a lot for the help tho
[07:12] <nevart> oh :(   thanks... guess they want money now :(
[07:12] <oldtopman> c ya
[07:12] <plytheman> I'm gonna go post up a storm on the crunchbang forums and figure out why #! hates samba so much
[07:13] <artscience> I'm looking at the "Create a new partition" window after selecting manual install, selecting free space and clicking new partition
[07:13] <plytheman> g'night!
[07:13] <artscience> if I go ahead and format this free space to ext3 is it going to do any goofy MBR shit?
[07:13] <Wimbuntu> Hi Guys , may i ask you for some help please
[07:13] <oldtopman> artscience gimme a min just did karmic install 4 days ago 4 times
[07:13] <maco> artscience: please watch your language
[07:14] <RSMITH16384> anyone get a webpage when going to http://98.119.102.121:16384
[07:14] <artscience> btw this is an older live cd
[07:14] <artscience> not karmic
[07:14] <khensthoth> RSMITH16384: Working now.
[07:14] <RSMITH16384> thank you sir
[07:14] <oldtopman> what ver
[07:14] <wanted> my bluetoooth adaptor is working but i cannot scan the devices from ubuntu,
[07:15] <artscience> this is intrepid
[07:15] <artscience> 8.10
[07:15] <oldtopman> artscience why not upgrade to 9-10
[07:16] <travmon> just   ask   question  winbuntu
[07:16] <eylisian> artscience: software is as is, no warranty. but if you don't install grub you'll be ok.
[07:16] <wanted> hcitool scan, scan failed, i dont know why this happens, my bluetooth adaptor is working fine but not discoverable, please give me a idea
[07:16] <wanted> hcitool scan, scan failed, i dont know why this happens, my bluetooth adaptor is working fine but not discoverable, please give me a idea
[07:16] <artscience> uh I will just upgrade after install
[07:16] <wanted> hcitool scan, scan failed, i dont know why this happens, my bluetooth adaptor is working fine but not discoverable, please give me a idea
[07:16] <FloodBot4> wanted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:16] <artscience> I plan upgrading to ubuntu studio anyway
[07:17] <luca> !it
[07:18] <eylisian> artscience: upgrade means e17 ;)
[07:18] <wanted> hello guys, any one solve my problem,, hcitool scan, scan failed, i dont know why this happens, my bluetooth adaptor is working fine but not discoverable, please give me a idea
[07:18] <artscience> e17?
[07:18] <eylisian> wanted: if I knew I'd tell you. really.
[07:18] <Wimbuntu> Travmon , I have an error al of the sudden this morning at startup , it states a main process 735 failed
[07:18] <travmon> i'm  using ubuntustudio  to  stream  to  stickam  an  using webcamstudio
[07:18] <cell0> anyone know how to check which processes are using the most disk io in linux?
[07:18] <eylisian> artscience: e17 is another window manager.
[07:18] <eylisian> cell0. sysstat tools, iostat in particular.
[07:19] <kwall> e17? quaint
[07:19] <newtoubuntu2> hi
[07:19] <thebetatester> nicknoper finally got computer running to satisfaction
[07:19] <greezmunkey> wanted, from what I can find, that tool has a lot of bug reports. If the BT device works, you may well leave it at that ?!?
[07:19] <cell0> eylisian: Command line?
[07:19]  * eylisian likes a few days of e17 every few months.
[07:20] <eylisian> cell0: yes.
[07:20] <eylisian> cell0: iostat is like top.
[07:21] <newtoubuntu2> uh, i got a problem with ubuntu. i made an extra bottom panel and made it autohide. i think i broke my panels...
[07:21] <O__o> which prgram is best for creating geometry figures?
[07:21] <meowbuntu> hi all
[07:21] <eylisian> 0__o ... thats a cool nick. heh. maybe inkscape? it's a vector drawing tool. I really don't know though.
[07:22] <wanted> greezmunkey: bt device is working fine, but its unable to scan nor detected by other phones, so wat may be the problem
[07:22] <meowbuntu> I am looking for a tutoral on how to dualboot xp and ubuntu 9.10 on separate hdd.
[07:22] <artscience> at what point is GRUB installed in the ubuntu installation process?
[07:22] <artscience> I'm still not clear on how to avoid it
[07:22] <oldtopman> crash-reboot
[07:22] <oldtopman> sorry
[07:22] <cell0> eylisian: question is how do i find the process which is hogging my disk?
[07:22] <eylisian> artscience: after package install
[07:22] <artscience> meowbuntu: that should be easy if you are doing it on a pc
[07:23] <Kvist> kbiub
[07:23] <Orion777> is there any need for anti-virus/spyware itu?unn ub
[07:23] <Orion777> in ubuntu
[07:23] <greezmunkey> wanted, the best I can tell you is that there are a plethera of bug reports on it, that's all. Try googling hcitool, you'll see.
[07:23] <Rajasun> cell0: try iotop
[07:23] <oldtopman> artscience when u select install ubuntu do u get a refined window manager or
[07:23] <islington> In what ppa is kde 4.4 b1 being built? anyone know?
[07:23] <khensthoth> artscience: After you configure everything, there should be a confirmation page before you proceed to any actual partitioning, copying and installing. It should be there.
[07:23] <oldtopman> a simple box-window interface
[07:23] <Beefcakes> what's phy0 ?
[07:24] <chris_> i need help with my ubuntu it wont load up is says trying ntfs and goes into a command line can anyone help
[07:24] <newtoubuntu2> can anyone help?
[07:24] <khensthoth> artscience: At least on newer LiveCD it is - not sure about Intrepid though.
[07:24] <eylisian> cell0: iostat, iotop... both will show you how to find the disk hog.
[07:24] <meowbuntu> artscience, my friend need help. i am researching before i go over to help him next week
[07:24] <oldtopman> Ds is goin dowwn
[07:24] <khensthoth> newtoubuntu2: Are you able to access the panels now?
[07:25] <newtoubuntu2> no
[07:25] <artscience> khensthoth: well I'm looking at formatting the free space to a ext3 through the installer but I want to make sure the partitioner doesn't F* up my current partition map
[07:25] <greezmunkey> sudo apt-get install sysstat (for iostat, et.al.)
[07:25] <Orion777> anyone know how to install clam av?
[07:25] <meowbuntu> artscience, i cant find many tutoral on how to do it with 2 hdd
[07:25] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: when i right click on either top or bottom, nothing happens. not only that, the new panel disappeared.
[07:25] <Orion777> sudo apt-get install ??
[07:25] <chris_> anyone please  help me
[07:25] <oldtopman> And on that bombshell it's tme to end. Thank you and good night!
[07:26] <khensthoth> artscience: As far as I can recall, anything you set there doesn't actually get committed until after the confirmation prompt.
[07:26] <eremite> Does anyone know how to make a set of .iso files of my entire HD in an easy, non hassle way?
[07:26] <nevart> @chris: did that happen the first time you ever tried to boot it, or after a system update?
[07:26] <Rajasun> islington: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/ppa maybe? Otherwise see what else you have here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=KDE
[07:27] <Wimbuntu> HI GUYS , IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT EVE CAME ACROSS A MAIN PROCESS 735 FAILED error on startup
[07:27] <chris_> my xp crashed its missing a hal.dll file and it wont boot now
[07:27] <eylisian> artscience: the Debian/Ubuntu installer is solid.
[07:27] <artscience> meowbuntu: with two hdd? I assume you mean windows on one hdd and ubuntu on the other? I think that should be the easiest possible setup, it should be just as easy as installing a different os on two diff computers
[07:27] <islington> that seems to be it thanks Rajasun
[07:27] <nevart> the problem would be getting the MBR on the first HDD to recognize the existence of the 2nd OS
[07:28] <Rajasun> islington: np
[07:28] <vimpulse> Wimbuntu:  your caps lock is on.
[07:28] <khensthoth> newtoubuntu2: How about resetting the GNOME panels? http://www.celsius1414.com/2006/08/31/how-to-reset-gnome-panel-to-default-in-ubuntugnome2
[07:28] <vimpulse> Wimbuntu:  :)
[07:28] <Wimbuntu> yes
[07:28] <chris_> how do i do that
[07:28] <chris_> nevart
[07:28] <nevart> i think you have to edit the grub command
[07:29] <nevart> i haven't tried it but i can see it would be a problem
[07:29] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: i'll try that, but i cant get to terminal. i was thinking about making a launcher, but couldnt find term either.
[07:29] <greezmunkey> eremite, aptoncd is great for packages that you have downloaded, you can gzip your home directory, and install fresh from a dist cd, seems pretty good to me. The alternative is a bit if a mess IMO
[07:29] <meowbuntu> artscience, its done i need to dual boot them. will this grub1 setup work http://ubuntu-georgia.org/installing_ubuntu_and_windows_xp_on_separate_drives
[07:29] <eylisian> artscience: you find your free space and select it (not using guided, lvm is optional for *within* that partition that you make from free space. I'd avoid it). After packages install, don't install grub (it's explicit about what it's trying to do) and then reboot into goodness with your bootloader.
[07:29] <cit> hi
[07:29] <arooni-mobile> hi folks!  having trouble mounting /dev/md1 as my home partition.  md1 is a raid 1 device across two hard drives.  running karmic.  i changed nothing except for the locatoin of the PC (moved it without dropping it).  now when i try to mount /dev/md1 i see: "EXT3-fs: unable to read spuerblock; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mda1" ....   what should i do now?
[07:29] <chris_> it prompts me to the grub command
[07:30] <khensthoth> newtoubuntu2: Alt+F1 to get Ubuntu menu, Alt+F2 to get the Run Application prompt.
[07:30] <Rajasun> islington: maybe not. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/+archive/ppa is for users of gutsy, hardy and intrepid not for jaunty and karmic. Go through the list here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=KDE . You should be able to find one.
[07:30] <artscience> so what should I use for a mount point or does it matter?
[07:30] <artscience> I usually would just use "/"
[07:30] <Wimbuntu> i have defnitely not changed the grub
[07:31] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: any suggestions if ALT+F1 and ALT+F2 dont work?
[07:31] <chris_> can you nevart give me any kind of commands to try
[07:31] <khensthoth> artscience: Depends on you, but having a separate /home would make reinstallation/upgrading/backup much easier.
[07:31] <eylisian> artscience: you need a root ( / ) partition.
[07:32] <eylisian> artscience: swap is nice too.
[07:32] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: also would like to mention that when i shutdown/reboot, there is a popup that says "panel" is not responding
[07:32] <khensthoth> newtoubuntu2: Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a console, run the commands, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to go back.
[07:32] <vimpulse> Wimbuntu:  also, if you write "anyone" in your question, then people who haven't seen your error message won't answer.  Instead, if you want to know why you're getting your error message, ask everyone something like, "Why am I getting the error message 'abc'?  Is it serious?".
[07:32] <vimpulse> :)
[07:33] <nevart> actually that link somebody suggested, that has a lot of good material there
[07:33] <nevart> here it is again
[07:33] <nevart> http://ubuntu-georgia.org/installing_ubuntu_and_windows_xp_on_separate_drives
[07:33] <kwall> Wimbuntu, not I
[07:33] <KnifeySpooney> "sudo dmidecode" says that my processor's max speed is 3000 MHz, and my cpu currently runs at 1600 MHz. Do you guys think it would be ok to increase this to something like 2300 MHz?
[07:33] <eylisian> artscience: if you want to get all serious and it's a desktop, big home, 5G root, 5G tmp and 10G usr and var
[07:33] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: thanks, that worked, i got to console. however when i do try to rm ~panel, it says that there is no such file or directory
[07:34] <vimpulse> eylisian:  why do you recommend separate tmp?
[07:34] <eylisian> artscience: one big root and some swap works too =)
[07:34] <vimpulse> on a desktop
[07:34] <newtoubuntu2> wait
[07:34] <artscience> it's not a desktop and I don't want to get all serious ;)
[07:34] <Wimbuntu> thanks guys
[07:34] <artscience> this is about 10% drive space
[07:34] <khensthoth> newtoubuntu2: rm -r ~/.gconf/apps/panel
[07:34] <vimpulse> Wimbuntu:  I think time to re-ask.
[07:34] <Fenix-Dark> hey
[07:34] <vimpulse> but better this time.
[07:34] <newtoubuntu2> yea, i missed the ~
[07:34] <artscience> my mac is my  main OS
[07:34] <newtoubuntu2> that got it, rebooting now
[07:34] <Fenix-Dark> anyone running ubuntu on one of those intel nas devices? (intel ss4200-e)
[07:35] <vimpulse> !anyone > Fenix-Dark
[07:35] <artscience> if I don
[07:35] <vimpulse> Fenix-Dark:  :)
[07:35] <eylisian> vimpulse: I just learned to do it that way.
[07:35] <artscience> if I don't create a swap now can I create one later?
[07:35] <eylisian> artscience: if there is room yeah. swapon baby.
[07:35] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: how did you find that info? i.e. what should i type into google to find this type of tip?
[07:36] <khensthoth> artscience: Yes, though you might have to resize some partitions.
[07:36] <artscience> that's ok
[07:36] <artscience> I think I'll skip the swap for now
[07:36] <eylisian> artscience: does hfs shrink?
[07:36] <ardchoille> newtoubuntu2: most of you settings are somewhere in ~/.gconf in subfolders.. have a look in there sometime
[07:36] <vimpulse> artscience:  resizing partitions always creates a minuscule chance of data loss, each time you do it.
[07:36] <artscience> it does with ipartition
[07:37] <Fenix-Dark> I've looked into it a bit and there is a distinct lack of documentation on installing linux on it (intel ss4200-e) compared to WHS... Curious of what problems I may run into since i plan on installing it soon, in a bit of a round-about way. Going to plop a hdd into my desktop, install ubuntu to it, setup some user accounts and have sshd start on boot, then plop that back into the intel NAS and hope for the best
[07:37] <eylisian> artscience: nice. d00d, check out gparted too. it's nice stuff. the live cd is always good to have around.
[07:37] <Wimbuntu> Why am I getting the error message 'main process 735 failed at startup '?
[07:37] <khensthoth> newtoubuntu2: Google: resetting Gnome Panel. Actually, ~/.gconf contains a lot of your gnome settings and configurations. In fact, ~/.(AppName) usually are configurations for that App as well, so if you have a problem, just delete those folder. Make a backup and be careful though.
[07:37] <artscience> yeah I've given gparted good use too ;)
[07:38] <eylisian> Wimbuntu: in dmesg?
[07:38] <artscience> but ipartition helps with the really messy stuff like bootcamp
[07:38] <vimpulse> Wimbuntu:  I suggest you add "and is it serious?" because some error messages at startup are not serious at all.
[07:38] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth & ardchoille: many thanks for the help :)
[07:38] <eylisian> Wimbuntu: cause 735 didn't start ;)
[07:38]  * eylisian ducks
[07:38] <artscience> well worth  the $45
[07:38] <Wimbuntu> well this one stopped my gnome from starting , up , I can only access command line
[07:38] <eylisian> artscience: right on. I have heard bootcamp is a drag.
[07:38] <vimpulse> Wimbuntu:  ah.  Sounds like it *is* serious.
[07:39] <Wimbuntu> yes
[07:39] <vimpulse> Wimbuntu:  it would've been best to mention that bit in your original question.  :)
[07:39] <Wimbuntu> I love command line but defnitely need the gnome
[07:39] <Wimbuntu> sorry , i am a newbie on this
[07:40] <artscience> yeah speaking of drag it only let's "drag" a bar between ONE mac partition and ONE windows partition
[07:40] <eylisian> Wimbuntu: did it take you to a ncurses (cmd menu) screen w/ options about root shell and 'reconfigure x'?
[07:40] <vimpulse> Wimbuntu:  I find that the best IRC questions are usually fifty words or more, all in one very long message, like arooni-mobile's question above.
[07:40] <artscience> and you can't partition before bootcamp the drive needs to be in one big HFS+
[07:41] <vimpulse> Wimbuntu:  and it's OK, everyone's a newbie sometime :)
[07:41] <arooni-mobile> i dont wknow what else to do
[07:41] <newtoubuntu2> anyone know why i cant get my wireless on my laptop to work?
[07:41] <Wimbuntu> yes it basically halted the whole system , and I needed to reboot with the recovery option to get it to cml
[07:41] <artscience> who thought that was a good idea??!! of course I need more the one partition for mac and windows
[07:41] <vimpulse> !anyone > newtoubuntu2
[07:41] <vimpulse> newtoubuntu2:  :)
[07:42] <travmon> jockey  broke  my  wireless  yesterday ath_pci  was  not  blacklisted
[07:42] <eylisian> Wimbuntu: so you reboot, selecting recovery mode and now you are at a root shell? (cmd prompt w/ the little "#" mark)
[07:43] <Wimbuntu> yes eylisian
[07:43] <racle> Anyone know good content filter? need block acces to porn and dansguardian isn't working all the time...
[07:43] <artscience> `ok I think I found it on page 7 of 7 if you click advanced you can deselect "install boot loader"
[07:43] <travmon> opendns?
[07:43] <Slart> racle: unless you use some kind of whitelist I think it's hard to get a filter to work all the time
[07:43] <vimpulse> racle:  I use dansguardian and I find it is the best choice of all the choices I have seen in the Ubuntu repo.  Ask for help in #dansguardian.
[07:44] <racle> vimpulse: i ask help there
[07:44] <amarendra> My laptop camera is not detected in ubuntu. Plz help
[07:44] <Keiya> Brasero sucks.
[07:44] <artscience> it says "the partition tables of the following devices are changed:" maybe I'm just being paranoid but it's not going to change the actual table is it?
[07:44] <Keiya> "Some file names are not fully Windows-compatable. Would you like to continue?"
[07:44] <robbmunson> amarendra: what kind of camera? (way more information needed)
[07:44] <Keiya> Push continue.
[07:44] <FloodBot1> Keiya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <Keiya> "Some file names are not fully Windows-compatable. Would you like to continue?"
[07:44] <Keiya> Push continue.
[07:45] <Wimbuntu> hi guys , i will be back in a while , then i'll continue my problem solving , thanks in any case for everyone listening ( reading)
[07:45] <artscience> maybe it just means that because the partition being changed is in that table
[07:45] <Madpilot> Keiya, yeah, I wish there was a "I am not burning this disc to be used on Windows" button sometiems
[07:45] <eylisian> Wimbuntu: well, this comes down to what I think might be possible x-server issues. from your root shell issue the command: init 5
[07:45] <eylisian> Wimbuntu: see if x starts that way
[07:45] <Keiya> Madpilot: There is. "sudo apt-get install k3b'
[07:45] <cell0> Hi folks, i've used "sar" to identify high %util on a given disk. How do i translate this into a offending process?
[07:45] <amarendra> Its inbuilt , motion eye is the brand and is connected in usb according to windows driver.
[07:46] <Madpilot> Keiya, well, yes. Inside Brasero, I mean. :)
[07:46] <artscience> *crosses fingers*
[07:46] <cell0> someone suggested iostat, but not sure how to use it
[07:46] <eylisian> artscience: good luck
[07:46] <vimpulse> amarendra:  I am not experienced with cameras.  But it would be wise to give even more info.  Try to restate your question in fifty words or more.  Preferably a hundred words.  All in one very long message.  Include info about what you tried already, if anything.  :)
[07:46] <S_A> Hi! I have recently upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04. getting error in dns resolving. Any solution ?
[07:47] <Flannel> vimpulse: Alright, enough with that.  Word count has nothing to do with a question.
[07:47] <cpoulson> S_A: Check /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:47] <newtoubuntu2> how do i get my wireless to work? i have followed instructions on how to when i searched online but they all seem to not help me. during install no errors were raised.
[07:47] <khensthoth> S_A: Would switching your DNS server to OpenDNS or Google Pubic DNS help?
[07:47] <vimpulse> Flannel:  I find that the more a person writes, the more useful info they will give, including what they tried already, what other info they know, et cetera.
[07:48] <Wimbuntu> no go , eylisian
[07:48] <khensthoth> newtoubuntu2: Which wireless card is it?
[07:48] <cpoulson> khensthoth: I sure like the IPs Google picked for their servers!
[07:48] <greezmunkey> cell0, iostat is more for average usage stats, what do you think is happening?
[07:48] <Wimbuntu> is there a way to reinstall the x-server eylisian:
[07:48] <amarendra> I am using sony vaio laptop model no. vgn-cr35g. The inbuilt camera cannot be detected by ubuntu 9.10. I have tried cheese.
[07:49] <S_A> cpoulson: already added name server in /etc/resolv.conf. After adding remote host IP address in /etc/hosts, I can ping to that particulat host properly but not to any random dns address
[07:49] <vimpulse> amarendra:  ok, you tried cheese; what happened when you ran the cheese program?
[07:50] <eylisian> cell0: my bad. iotop is what I should have said first.
[07:50] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: how do i check? i tried ifconfig -a, NetworkManager, and neither tell me the model
[07:50]  * eylisian hangs head
[07:50] <Barbiegentooer_> az mouse came and ate it ?
[07:50] <travmon> wxcam?
[07:50] <cpoulson> S_A: Did you try as khensthoth suggested and use Google's Public DNS or OpenDNS?
[07:50] <amarendra> Message is: No camera found.
[07:50] <eylisian> Wimbuntu: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (as root or using sudo)
[07:50] <S_A> cpoulson: how to do that ?
[07:50] <vimpulse> amarendra:  Also, what is the model of camera?
[07:51] <vimpulse> amarendra:  lsusb may tell you.
[07:51] <Bu3nK> uuu
[07:51] <tsrk> I had an SSH session open that was running a long script and I accidently closed it. How can I check if the script is still running?
[07:51] <cpoulson> S_A: umm for Google use 8.8.8.8
[07:51] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: broadcom Corporation BCM4309
[07:51] <vimpulse> tsrk:  ps -ef
[07:51] <vimpulse> tsrk:  next time, use GNU Screen or nohup to avoid these problems.  :)
[07:52] <amarendra> after running lsusb: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05ca:1839 Ricoh Co., Ltd Visual Communication Camera VGP-VCC6 [R5U870]
[07:52] <eylisian> tsrk: ps -ef |grep <script-name> might work too
[07:52] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, how to play vcd in ubuntu?
[07:52] <S_A> do you mean I should add this 8.8.8.8 in my /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:52] <eylisian> Google party it is.
[07:53] <llutz> S_A: add "nameserver=8.8.8.8" to /etc/resolv.conf
[07:53] <eylisian> S_A that would have you looking up against google, yes.
[07:53] <tsrk> vimpulse, eylisian, thank you, worked perfectly :)
[07:53] <cpoulson> S_A: yes... like "nameserver 8.8.8.8"
[07:53] <tsrk> vimpulse: i'll try to use screen next time i anticipate closing the window :P
[07:53] <llutz> without = :(
[07:53] <chasedawg1> Hey i have a question. Can anyone help me?
[07:53] <cpoulson> llutz: hehe
[07:53] <robbmunson> !ask | chasedawg1
[07:53] <S_A> :)
[07:53] <vimpulse> robbmunson:  I can't help amarendra; I have no clue what to say.  Can you?  Otherwise s/he should repeat/resummarize the whole question, all in one very long message.
[07:54] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, how to play vcd in ubuntu?
[07:54] <isolat3dsh33p> !vcd
[07:54]  * eylisian waits...
[07:54] <amarendra> Shall i repeat?
[07:54] <chasedawg1> I want to change my login screen. How do i do that
[07:54] <khensthoth> newtoubuntu2: Ah. Not proficient at all in that area. Have you seen this though? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29
[07:54] <vimpulse> tsrk:  whenever I start up a terminal, I start GNU Screen inside it.  I have made this a habit.  It has served me well.
[07:54] <robbmunson> vimpulse: Sometimes answers are unavailable, not even I can help as I am about to leave my session open but my physical body is going to sleep :)
[07:55] <tsrk> vimpulse: is there an easy way to set that to automatically happen?
[07:55] <vimpulse> amarendra:  time to repeat everything for the whole channel, all in one very long message.  It's a drag but in such a busy channel as this, it helps us.
[07:55] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: how did u find that? i'll take a look, but it seems to require more skill with ubuntu than i have.
[07:56] <vimpulse> tsrk:  I don't know, but if so, I don't recommend it, as usually you want a new session, sometimes not.  Also, you should train your muscle memory to start screen every time, even when using LiveCDs or foreign PCs.
[07:57] <chasedawg1> I want to change my login screen. How do i do that?
[07:57] <tsrk> vimpulse: alright, i'll work on that
[07:57] <roracle> hey guys, running an Aspire One netbook and needing to figure out how to get video playback to be normal.  It is squashed horizontally (meaning it's tall and thin playback)  how do i correct this?  9.10 netbook remix
[07:57] <khensthoth> newtoubuntu2: Google-ed Broadcom Ubuntu =)
[07:57] <Kamokow> chasedawg1: If you are going to also, please atleast give us your version.
[07:57] <newtoubuntu2> bleh
[07:57] <Kamokow> *ask us
[07:57] <eylisian> chasedawg1: I think it's System > Admin > Login Screen
[07:57] <llutz> ^^ not in karmic afaik
[07:58] <Kamokow> No, it isnt in karmic
[07:58] <cpoulson> vimpulse: That's how I end up with 50 screen sessions and can't remember which one I want to reconnect to. ;)
[07:58] <Kvist> :P
[07:58] <eylisian> chasedawg1: you might need to go download some new ones too.
[07:58] <chasedawg1> eylisian: i go to the system > admin > login screen but nothing happens
[07:58] <Kamokow> chasedawg1: it isnt the same in 9.10, which i would assume you are using?
[07:58] <vimpulse> llutz:  who runs 8.8.8.8, and are you sure they don't mind thousands of random strangers using their nameserver?  :)
[07:58] <amarendra> I am using sony vaio laptop model no. vgn-cr35g. The inbuilt camera cannot be detected by ubuntu 9.10. I have tried cheese. I used lsusb to get the model of camera. I reply i got "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05ca:1839 Ricoh Co., Ltd Visual Communication Camera VGP-VCC6 [R5U870]" If cheese wants camera in /dev/video; Is there any way to mount this usb location in video location which cheese wants?
[07:59] <llutz> vimpulse: google
[07:59] <cpoulson> vimpulse: It's Google's Public DNS
[07:59]  * eylisian is using 9.04 on desktop
[07:59] <llutz> vimpulse: they are sure
[07:59] <chasedawg1> kamokow: ya i have 9.10
[07:59] <vimpulse> llutz:  cpoulson:  ah.
[07:59] <Beefcakes> if i install ubuntu inside windows... am I essentially installing another OS or just an app inside windows?
[07:59] <calamity> Heya everyone, I've just freshly installed 9.10, and after installing the restrictedformats packages, ubuntu seems to be playing music, but no noise is actually coming out.
[07:59] <greezmunkey> vimpulse, nslookup 8.8.8.8
[07:59] <llutz> vimpulse: and no, i wouldn't use it, i prefer free dns
[07:59] <ardchoille> stealth radio :)
[07:59] <booh> !wubi | Beefcakes
[07:59] <Kamokow> chasedawg1: AFAIR, Canonical removed the functionality in Karmic
[07:59] <artscience> Beefcakes: are using a virtual machine?
[08:00] <chasedawg1> eylisian: what ones do i download? i looked everywhere
[08:00] <Beefcakes> artscience: no using the cd installer
[08:00] <Madpilot> Beefcakes, both. an app that's actually an OS. :)
[08:00] <roracle> hey guys, running an Aspire One netbook and needing to figure out how to get video playback to be normal.  It is squashed horizontally (meaning it's tall and thin playback)  how do i correct this?  9.10 netbook remix
[08:00] <calamity> Also, I am pretty sure this has been solved on the forums, but they're down at the moment.
[08:00] <Beefcakes> booh: will it give me another OS choice in boot? I dont want it to interefere with anything, i want something like cygwin
[08:00] <eylisian> chasedawg1: might forget about it sounds like. is this true?
[08:00] <RPG_Master> Anyone else having issues with pausing ogg video and audio in Firefox?
[08:00] <artscience> yeah do wubi
[08:00] <booh> Beefcakes: it sounds like wubi is what you want, though i have never used it
[08:01] <chasedawg1> ok ya. I guess i'll just leave it alone. darn
[08:01] <roracle> RPG_Master: link me to an ogg so to test it
[08:01] <khensthoth> RPG_Master: Yes. Don't know how to solve it though.
[08:01] <eylisian> Kamokow: no login screen changes?
[08:01] <booh> Beefcakes: wubi will install ubuntu in windows. not sure exactly how it works yet.
[08:01] <RPG_Master> roracle: www.shotofjaq.com
[08:01]  * eylisian sniffs
[08:01] <booh> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28Ubuntu_installer%29
[08:01] <vimpulse> RPG_Master:  khensthoth:  if you can't find any info online about the problem, try irc.mozilla.org #firefox
[08:01] <Kamokow> eylisian: I dont think so, Im pretty sure they took out official built in customization for speed
[08:01] <RPG_Master> roracle: they have a buncha audio players there
[08:01] <booh> Beefcakes: Wubi adds an entry to the Windows boot menu which allows the user to run Linux. Ubuntu is installed within a file in the Windows file system (c:\ubuntu\disks\root.disk), as opposed to being installed within its own partition.
[08:02] <RPG_Master> vimpulse: They don't know :O
[08:02] <calamity> I should mention, this happens with both mp3 and ogg.
[08:02] <Kamokow> I will try to find a tutorial on changing the GDM logon wallpaper, hold on a moment :)
[08:02] <vimpulse> RPG_Master:  then try the Firefox mailing lists next.  I think http://lists.mozilla.org
[08:02] <eylisian> Kamokow: there are ways to do it.
[08:02] <roracle> i don't hear anything
[08:02] <calamity> I checked under sound settings, and there are no devices listed
[08:02] <artscience> hmm do I have to reinstall rEFIt? it doesn't recognize the new ubuntu install
[08:02] <RPG_Master> roracle: www.shotofjaq.org
[08:02] <RPG_Master> sorry :P
[08:02] <Kamokow> eylisian: I know there are ways of doing it, but the old way is gone AFAIK
[08:02] <booh> Kamokow: really, you need a tutorial for that? in KDE it's under system settings
[08:03] <artscience> but thankfully and perhaps most importantly my mac install still boots
[08:03] <booh> gnome blows hard
[08:03] <eylisian> Kamokow: forums are down, but there is info on it. thanks for the heads up.
[08:03] <Kamokow> eylisian: Yup, no problem
[08:03] <llutz> booh: only the rewritten new gdm(2)
[08:03]  * eylisian inwardly groans at the KDE ref
[08:03] <eylisian> =)
[08:03] <Barbiegentooer_> anyone having problems with java on karmic, the firefox plugin, sometimes stops working here :|
[08:03] <robbmunson> ok, this rooms getting a bit chaotic, time for me to leave :)
[08:03] <Kamokow> booh: I dont like KDE, or atleast, not the new KDE, and I prefer gnome anyways...
[08:03] <greezmunkey> I know the forum is down, but I found ntop running for no particular reason. I can't find a reason why. Can someone shed some light on this?
[08:03] <Kamokow> Barbiegentooer_: Its working fine for me.
[08:04] <travmon> gnome   just works  for  me
[08:04] <eylisian> greezmunkey: it's not set to start on boot in your rc scheme of things?
[08:04] <roracle> RPG_Master: it works for me
[08:05] <roracle> so i dunno what to tell you
[08:05] <roracle> it doesn't work in Chrome though
[08:05] <ruffus910> anyone awake in here? ubuntu forums broken
[08:05] <greezmunkey> eylisian, if it is it eludes me.. :/
[08:05] <Sacho> ruffus910: topic
[08:05] <eylisian> greezmunkey: 9.10?
[08:05] <RPG_Master> roracle: :O
[08:05] <RPG_Master> :(
[08:05] <greezmunkey> eylisian, maybe "locate ntop"? what do you think?
[08:06] <ruffus910> in a fit of overzealous cleaning, i uninstalled firefox 3.6, now i cant get it to reinstall
[08:06] <ruffus910> says it has no installation candidate
[08:06] <eylisian> greezmunkey: if you are on 9.10 and I remember right, you can issue: chkconfig --list |grep ntop
[08:06]  * Kamokow facepalms after talking to someone making fun of a mac user
[08:06] <Kamokow> Woops, wrong chat tab
[08:07] <eylisian> greezmunkey: that will tell you the runlevels it comes on at.
[08:07] <i_is_broke> hey is there a program that you can use like a security system with a web cam?
[08:07] <ruffus910> can anyone help me reinstall firefox 3.6
[08:07] <eylisian> greezmunkey: if it is set to run at 3 and 5 you need to adjust that.
[08:08] <Kamokow> i_is_broke: dorgem is useful, and you can setup a web ftp feed too
[08:08] <RPG_Master> roracle: It works for me in chrome :(
[08:08] <roracle> strange huh?
[08:08] <RPG_Master> I don't like chrome...
[08:08] <RPG_Master> indeed :(
[08:08] <Flannel> i_is_broke: Sure.  There's a number of them, try "motion", it'll detect motion (in regions you specify) and alert you, etc.
[08:08] <RPG_Master> roracle: Could it have anything to do with 64-bit, add-ons?
[08:09] <i_is_broke> Kamokow, Flannel , thanks for the imput..
[08:09] <Kottizen> When I tried to connect to my FTP-server I got "Unexpected end of stream", what does that mean?
[08:09] <greezmunkey> eylisian, I think it started when I installed the sysstat package...It shows up in chkconfig, thanks!
[08:09] <roracle> i dunno, i'm at work so i'm using my 32 bit install
[08:09] <roracle> netbook
[08:09] <Kamokow> Kottizen: just try reconnecting
[08:10] <ruffus910> nobody is going to help me with firefox 3.6?
[08:10] <Kamokow> Kottizen: Are you using like Nautilus with the FTP?
[08:10] <Kamokow> brb
[08:11] <artscience> ok peeps
[08:11] <eylisian> greezmunkey: weird. shouldn't affect it but... who knows. you can adjust ntop with chkconfig: chkconfig --level 2345 off ntop
[08:11] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, have you tried sudo aptitude reinstall firefox-3.6?
[08:11] <Kottizen> Kamokow: I'm using "Connect to server" under "Places" in the menu.
[08:11] <greezmunkey> eylisian, that makes it too easy ;]
[08:11] <artscience> here's the deal I got ubuntu installed on that partition, but I just can't boot it
[08:11] <Kottizen> Kamokow: It didn't work with reconnect.
[08:11] <greezmunkey> eylisian, thanks!
[08:12] <eylisian> greezmunkey: it does huh?
[08:12] <newtoubuntu2> how do i scan for wireless networks available?
[08:12] <artscience> I tried reinstalling refit and it didn't help
[08:12] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: iwlist s
[08:12] <artscience> I'm thinking I need some kind boot loader information on the partition itself
[08:12] <eylisian> artscience: no life, or kernel panic?
[08:13] <artscience> no I can't even get THAT far
[08:13] <llutz> artscience: you haven't installed grub to partition?
[08:13] <artscience> when my laptop boots up it goes to rEFIt
[08:13] <artscience> no I didn't
[08:13] <artscience> it didn't give me that option
[08:14] <llutz> artscience: you should have done (advanced options)
[08:14] <eylisian> artscience: when you say 'needs a boot loader' grub comes to mind... it rocks. but you are skipping in the land of proprietary weirdness.
[08:14] <artscience> it only allowed me to deselect "install boot loader" which I did not want to do so it wouldn't mess up my current scheme
[08:14] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: network is down
[08:14] <artscience> I did go to the advanced option but this is an intrepid 8.10 live cd
[08:15] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: sudo ifconfig <your-wifi-dev> up && iwlist s
[08:15] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, did you catch that, and did it work?
[08:15] <eylisian> artscience: I know, blow it all away and run mac and windows in virtualbox under ubuntu!
[08:15] <ruffus910> i_is_broke: no, it did not work
[08:15] <llutz> !grub |  artscience
[08:15] <eylisian> artscience: kidding d00d.
[08:16] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, why are you trying to reinstall it?
[08:16] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: i did "sudo ifconfig wlan0" but where does it say if it is up or not?
[08:16] <ruffus910> i do apt-get install ad it says no installation candidate
[08:16] <ruffus910> because i deleted it
[08:16] <artscience> I think at this point I just need to explore options for manually creating boot info that won't interfere with my current scheme and will get rEFIt to recognize the linux installation
[08:16] <ruffus910> did apt-get uninstall
[08:16] <i_is_broke> oh i dont think 3.6 is in the repos, you will have to get the ppa for it.
[08:16] <hulk> hi all
[08:16] <greezmunkey> eylisian, check this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/338519/
[08:16] <hulk> any one herer
[08:16] <Beezie_> !ask | hulk
[08:16] <i_is_broke> hulk nope
[08:17] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: if "ifconfig" shows wlan0 it is up, if you need "ifconfig -a" to show it, it is down. bring it up with "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
[08:17] <hulk> hii anygir l hr
[08:17] <artscience> anyone know of any options like that :D
[08:17] <Viking667> hulk: no. Nobody's here. Just your imaginary photons
[08:17] <calamity> Does anyone have any idea when the ubuntu forums will be back up?
[08:17] <hulk> hi beezie
[08:17] <jefry> hello
[08:17] <i_is_broke> !ppa firefox
[08:17] <Beezie_> calamity, google cache is good for older searches, unless you intend to post...
[08:17] <hulk> hello jefrie
[08:17]  * greezmunkey thumbs his crystal ball...
[08:18] <eylisian> greezmunkey: I was reading about LSB compliance in init scripts the other day.
[08:18] <llutz> artscience: you install 8.10?
[08:18] <calamity> Nope, I just need to read the solutions to all my 9.10 issues.
[08:18] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, and ubottu dont know squat about ppa  for it either. i just checked.
[08:18] <Keiya> Argh.
[08:18] <artscience> llutz: yup it's installed
[08:18] <hulk> hey anyone there
[08:18] <scythe> Hi is anybody willing to help me with an issue of sound in flash and rhythmbox not playing anything?
[08:18] <i_is_broke> i know there is one tho
[08:18] <hulk> plz reply
[08:18] <hulk> any girl here
[08:18] <greezmunkey> eylisian, I think I'll just chmod it -x for now!
[08:18] <Keiya> Gnome's burning tool is just broken, K3B crashes...
[08:18] <eylisian> greezmunkey: those are early warnings ... maintainers will be having to rewrite their inits
[08:18] <Kamokow> hulk: just ask your question
[08:18] <llutz> artscience: start live-cd, when in grub-menue press escape "c" to enter grub shell. there "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[08:18] <ruffus910> i have the PPA for it
[08:19] <hulk> hello
[08:19]  * Beezie_ slaps hulk.
[08:19] <ruffus910> it still doent work
[08:19] <llutz> artscience: it will give you something like (hd0,2)
[08:19] <Ascavasaion> I have a webcam pluged into the USB.  I did a lsusb and it is listed at being present.  neith xawtv or camorama find the device.  No /dev/video0 apparently.  How do I check what /dev entry is linked to what USB device?
[08:19] <artscience> this is a macbook so it will be sda
[08:19] <Beezie_> Ascavasaion, what kind of cam is it?
[08:19] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, then thats as far as i can help you, maybe someone else will know more.
[08:19] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: when i do "sudo ifconfig wlan0.up" it says " error fetching interface info: device not found"
[08:19] <llutz> artscience: "root (hd0,X)"    <- output from cmd before
[08:19] <ruffus910> anyone else?
[08:19] <hulk> hey i want to speed my internet connection so anyone can help me haaaaaaaaaaa?
[08:19] <Beefcakes> how do i find out the version of an app i have installed? (compiled)
[08:19] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: wlan0 up" no dot
[08:20] <eylisian> greezmunkey: that said, my 9.10 laptop didn't puke like that.
[08:20] <Beezie_> Beefcakes, man appname
[08:20] <scythep> Hi is anybody willing to help me with an issue of sound in flash and rhythmbox not playing anything?
[08:20] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, have you tried sudo aptitude purge firefox and then try running the ppa again?
[08:20] <Beezie_> Beefcakes, or appname -v
[08:20] <llutz> artscience: "setup (hd0,X)" then, "quit"
[08:20] <artscience> llutz: can you pm this info so I can refer back to it?
[08:20] <greezmunkey> newtoubuntu2, try sudo ifup wlan0...
[08:20] <ruffus910> no, i will try
[08:20] <Kamokow> Anyone know why when I open up .pl files like 75% of the time gedit auto opens, instead of the dialogue box that asks me what I want to do?
[08:20] <ruffus910> one second
[08:20] <hulk>  :( help me to speed my internet
[08:20] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: SIOCSIFFLAGS: no such file or directory
[08:20] <scythepdas> Hi is anybody willing to help me with an issue of sound in flash and rhythmbox not playing anything?
[08:21] <Beezie_> scythepdas, someone will answer eventually dont repeat so often thx
[08:21] <eylisian> greezmunkey: have you been griped at restarting things yet? I was told to use 'service' just this week.
[08:21] <jtaji> Kamokow: the dialogue shows up when they are set executable (chmod +x)
[08:21] <scythepdas> sorry
[08:21] <Kamokow> jtaji: Thanks :)
[08:21] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: do i need to do a ndiswrapper?
[08:22] <jtaji> Ascavasaion: type dmesg right after you plug it in
[08:22] <greezmunkey> eylisian, maybe in the past...
[08:22] <newtoubuntu2> greezmunkey: "sudo ifup wlan0" gives me "ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"
[08:23] <Beezie_> newtoubuntu2, are you using wicd ?
[08:23] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: ifup needs /etc/network/interfaces to be configured
[08:23] <newtoubuntu2> beezie_: how do i check?
[08:23] <glick> does anyone know the gimp?
[08:23] <glick> how to use it well?
[08:23] <Beezie_> which network manager are you using?
[08:23] <glick> how come cant i redock windows?
[08:23] <glick> how come drag and drop doesnt wrok on it?
[08:23] <arooni-mobile> fsck is going crazy.  is that normal?  its like "ref count is 2, should be 1, a million times..
[08:23] <Beefcakes> if I have a compiled app installed and i download a new source for it and do make; make install, does it update it?
[08:24] <scythepdas> can anyone help me yet
[08:24] <llutz> !checkinstall | Beefcakes
[08:24] <eylisian> anyone firewalling for v6 yet? does ufw support it out of the box?
[08:24] <artscience> llutz: what is this going to do for me?
[08:24] <newtoubuntu2> beezie_: NetworkManager Applet 0.7.996, since it came with ubuntu 9.10
[08:24] <llutz> Beefcakes: if using same PREFIX it should, but make install is a real bad idea
[08:24] <Beezie_> newtoubuntu2, who else was helping you?
[08:24] <llutz> artscience: installing grub into partition
[08:24] <Beefcakes> llutz: real bad idea?
[08:24] <slide> How do I see my computer temperature?
[08:24] <greezmunkey> llutz, I'll stay out of this one, I've had to "tweak" my system for the wireless card I have.
[08:24] <Beefcakes> Beezie_: helping? no one really, just asking it all out here
[08:24] <calamity> that's depressing. the page which most likely has the answer I need isn't cached.
[08:25] <ruffus910> i_is_broken: that did not work either
[08:25] <calamity> my sound output is still aimed at some "dummy output"
[08:25] <eylisian> slide: got sensors?
[08:25] <scythepdas> Hi is anybody willing to help me with an issue of sound in flash and rhythmbox not playing anything?
[08:25] <slide> eylisian, im pretty sure yes
[08:25] <Kamokow> slide: you need sensors
[08:25] <artscience> llutz: an this will work with the intrepid 8.10 live cd?
[08:25] <eylisian> slide: I use gkrellm2
[08:25] <Beezie_> newtoubuntu2, wicd is a superior network manager.. sec
[08:25] <khensthoth> scythepdas: Does other audio application works?
[08:25] <newtoubuntu2> beezie_: llutz and greezmunkey
[08:25] <calamity> scythepdas: are you on 9.10?
[08:25] <Beezie_> !wicd | newtoubuntu2
[08:25] <llutz> Beefcakes: yes, at least use checkinstall, so your compiled apps are known to the packagemanagement
[08:25] <scythepdas> yes im on 9.1
[08:25] <scythepdas> 9.10
[08:25] <Beezie_> !info wicd
[08:25] <calamity> did you just to a fresh install?
[08:25] <llutz> Beefcakes: make update/deinstallation easier
[08:26] <scythepdas> and other audio works such as in java
[08:26] <slide> eylisian, thanks
[08:26] <eylisian> slide: np
[08:26] <scythepdas> well i installed this version yesterday
[08:26] <Beezie_> llutz & greezmunkey you 2 agree wicd is worth installing to make newtoubuntu2's problem easier to fix?
[08:26] <scythepdas> so i think its rather fresh i havent messed with anything so far
[08:26] <khensthoth> scythepdas: Have you seen if your volume in alsamixer, particularly PCM under Playback tab is muted?
[08:26] <calamity> scythepdas: well, I'm having issues with sound too. check your sound preferences, does it list any audio devices?
[08:26] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: how do i config /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:27] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: it won't help, if "sudo ifconfig -a" doesn't show your wlan-device
[08:27] <scythepdas> sound isnt muted
[08:27] <llutz> newtoubuntu2: you need a working friver before
[08:27] <scythepdas> and there is an audio device named internal audio
[08:27] <scythepdas> i havent downloaded drivers yet
[08:27] <ruffus910> i_is_broken: when i do apt-get update, it says some of the sources have no public key
[08:27] <calamity> scythepdas: hrmm
[08:27] <llutz> Beezie_: no idea about those gui things
[08:27] <scythepdas> but audio does work like i said in java games
[08:27] <Beezie_> thx llutz
[08:27] <llutz> driver*
[08:27] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: have you looked at System > Admin > Hardware Drivers >
[08:27] <mneptok> ?
[08:27] <ruffus910> could that have something to do with it?
[08:28] <Beefcakes> how can I list my wireless card's exact model and all?
[08:28] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, yeah could be.
[08:28] <mneptok> Beefcakes: lspci -vvvvv
[08:28] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: What "lspci | grep Audio" tells you?
[08:28] <ruffus910> how do i get the public key?
[08:28] <Ascavasaion> jtaji: I did that... it says [ 8878.345450] ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged!
[08:28] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: it says there are no proprietary drivers installed. everything else is blank and empty. only buttons i can press are "help" and "close"
[08:28] <i_is_broke> ruffus910,  i know there is a way around that ..but dont remember what it is.
[08:29] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: who makes the wireless chipset in your machine?
[08:29] <scythepdas> lspci | grep Audio tells me: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[08:29] <khensthoth> scythepdas: Open Sound Preferences, switch to the Applications tab and play your Flash or Rhythmbox - Are they listed?
[08:29] <ruffus910> oh well, thx anyway, ill just wait for the ubuntu forums to come back
[08:29] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, sorry i couldnt be more help.
[08:29] <greezmunkey> Beezie_, I begged off of that one but I do run wicd, primarily because of issues with NM.
[08:29] <Beefcakes> how do you use a rc2.patch file?
[08:29] <eylisian> ruffus910: what repo do you need a key for?
[08:29] <Beefcakes> rather, just a .patch file?
[08:29] <mneptok> ruffus910: what repos did you add manually to sources.list?
[08:30] <jtaji> Ascavasaion: that doesn't sound right, ttyS1 is the second com port.... do the lines around that one sound like a webcam?
[08:30] <greezmunkey> Beezie_, but any connection manager is useless until the interfaces are properly configured
[08:30] <Beezie_> greezmunkey, i cant do without wicd now :)
[08:30] <ruffus910> no worries broken. mneptok, hold on a sec, ill check
[08:30] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: broadcom Corporation BCM4309
[08:30] <artscience> llutz: when I hit esc it takes me to text mode where I see "boot:" I don't know what you mean by esc "c" though
[08:30] <jtaji> Ascavasaion: even if it was a serial device on USB I'd expect it to be ttyUSBx
[08:30] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: laptop?
[08:30] <llutz> artscience: press "c"
[08:30] <scythepdas> yes in sound preferences > applications rhythmbox is listed as playing audio
[08:30] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: Check your sound preferences, is it listed in the 'hardware' tab?
[08:30] <newtoubuntu2> dell inspiron 600m
[08:30] <Viking667> "c" brings up a grub "command line"
[08:31] <llutz> artscience: you have to enter grub-shell "grub>"
[08:31] <ruffus910> hydr0g3n mneptok
[08:31] <artscience> if I press "c" then I get "boot: c"   lol
[08:31] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: check and make sure you did not diable the wireless by pressing a key combination or a hardware swtich
[08:31] <scythepdas> internal audio 1 output/1 input analog stereo duplex is listed in the hardware tab
[08:31] <mneptok> *switch
[08:31] <Viking667> artscience: you sure you're using grub, and not lilo?
[08:31] <artscience> I think we are missing a command here
[08:31] <Viking667> ditto
[08:31] <newtoubuntu2> there is no hardware switch. as for key combo, i have no idea what would work since i got this as a handmedown
[08:31] <ruffus910> mneptok: i need the hydr0g3n key
[08:32] <artscience> Viking667: I'm not using either
[08:32] <Viking667> try hitting the tab key, tell us what you get
[08:32] <mneptok> ruffus910: never heard of that repo. got a URL?
[08:32] <llutz> artscience: i don't own a 8.10 live-cd, but thought they use grub...
[08:32] <Viking667> artscience: ohh, you're the EFI guy, are you?
[08:32] <artscience> Viking667: yup
[08:32] <Viking667> then I'll step out of this one.
[08:32] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: It should be checked in the output tab.
[08:32] <Viking667> I don't know a thing about it.
[08:32] <artscience> llutz: it does use grub
[08:32] <ruffus910> mneptok: wait its for qbittorrent
[08:32] <scythepdas> yes it is checked
[08:32] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: look on the function keys or thereabouts. is there a key with a wireless icon? is there an LED for the wireless that is illuminated (or not)?
[08:33] <artscience> llutz: like I said I think we are just missing a step
[08:33] <llutz> artscience: try again, boot live-cd, press "c" without escape this time
[08:33] <ruffus910> should i delete the ppa for firefox and reinstall it?
[08:33] <khensthoth> scythepdas: How about Rhythmbox's volume control, not muted or anything?
[08:33] <artscience> should I type "grub" when I am taken to text mode?
[08:33] <artscience> and then hit enter of course lol
[08:33] <Viking667> meanwhile, I'm having a HELL of a problem with Ubuntu. Every time I try to start it up, as soon as we get as far as starting up kdm, I lose both monitors. They go to power-off mode, and I can't get any sense except via ssh.
[08:34] <scythepdas> i am sure it is not muted, system volume is at medium as is rhythmbox
[08:34] <llutz> artscience: i guess that won't work
[08:34] <mneptok> !info qbittorrent
[08:34] <Viking667> this happened after I apt-getted xorg-driver-fglrx, and I have a Radeon 9550
[08:34] <Beezie_> Viking667, have you tried another user profile?
[08:34] <Viking667> "user profile"?
[08:34] <mneptok> ruffus910: why not use the official version?
[08:34] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, hey check this out. http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/05/apt-get-update-how-to-solve-no-public-key-available/
[08:34] <Beezie_> Viking667, logging in with another user
[08:34] <artscience> llutz: what won't work...typing grub?
[08:34] <Viking667> I don't even _get_ to the kdm/gdm
[08:34] <llutz> artscience: yes
[08:34] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: there is no LED for wireless, but there is one for bluetooth. there is a Fn key for wireless, but pressing it did nothing.
[08:35] <Beezie_> Viking667, sorry ok
[08:35] <Viking667> I said "as soon as the Xorg starts up"
[08:35] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: look in "Hardware Drivers" now
[08:35] <Viking667> starting up kdm, sorry
[08:35] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: Do you have graphical alsamixer installed?
[08:35] <ruffus910> mneptok: you mean firefox 3.5? i want to use 3.6 because im a dork with nothing better to do with my time
[08:35] <llutz> artscience: you also can boot into the live-cd and run grub from there if the "c" won't work again
[08:35] <eylisian> ruffus910: http://hydr0g3n.free.fr/qbittorrent/ if thats the repo, i can't find a key.
[08:35] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: no change, still nothing listed.
[08:36] <Beefcakes> if i have an app i installed via make install and i make a deb out of it's update, should i make remove first before installing the .deb?
[08:36] <mneptok> ruffus910: and you're willing to install an unsigned package that could be poorly built or a security risk?
[08:36] <Beezie_> Viking667, can you get a shell?  maybe you can check your .conf file for x11
[08:36] <llutz> Beezie_: if you _can_ remove it, do it
[08:36] <eylisian> mneptok: right.
[08:36] <llutz> Beefcakes: ^^
[08:36] <Beezie_> llutz, ?
[08:36] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: you may have to press both the function key and the "Fn" key together
[08:36] <Beezie_> heh
[08:36] <llutz> Beezie_: sry
[08:36] <Viking667> As soon as X loads the radeon module, that's it. End of. Game over.
[08:36] <ruffus910> firefox 3.6 is very well built, but to answer youre question, why not?
[08:36] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: i know, i did.
[08:36] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: if it's not installed, you can use the one in the terminal by typing 'alsamixer'. In the playback tab, check whether any output is muted.
[08:36] <Beezie_> Viking667, was this after apt-get updates it happened?
[08:37] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: i have alsa-utils installed according to synaptic but not alsamixergui or gnomealsamixer.
[08:37] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: the wireless card is off. if it was on, the "Hardware drivers" applet would see it and install the firmware for it.
[08:37] <Viking667> ... and I can't load the fglrx module either... aticonfig tells me I don't have a suitable card, yet I've got a Radeon 9550 (RV350 AS)
[08:37] <eylisian> ruffus910: no repo key is like un-protected computer sex.
[08:37] <geeknik_> anyone having issues w/ their connection after going to 9.1?
[08:37]  * Viking667 goes and reboots the silly computer
[08:37] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: would BIOS be able to turn it on?
[08:37] <Beezie_> Viking667, id still check the conf file out in shell
[08:37] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: it very well may
[08:37] <ruffus910> i just want 3.6 to work again
[08:37] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: you can you the terminal. type 'alsamixer'
[08:37] <eylisian> ruffus910: it might be thrilling but it also might get you p0wned.
[08:38] <Beezie_> isolat3dsh33p, is there a gui front end-line alsamixer thing?  ive been wondering myself.
[08:38] <artscience> ok I'm going into live
[08:38] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: trying that
[08:38] <RSMITH16384> can someone recommend a good syslog server?
[08:38] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: master volume is at 81, pcm at 100 and front at 81. everything else is muted
[08:38] <artscience> I forgot how to run grub from there though
[08:38] <eylisian> artscience: sweet.
[08:38] <travmon> QAMIX   works  great!!!
[08:38] <ruffus910> Im always careful, I just want Firefox 3.6 to work again
[08:39] <llutz> artscience:when in live-cd, open terminal: "sudo su", "grub", "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[08:39] <eylisian> ruffus910: have you tried launching it (FF 3.6) from a terminal and seeing what errors are within?
[08:40] <geeknik_> anyine have issues w/ browser in 9.1
[08:40] <isolat3dsh33p> schestowitz: Are you trying to play mp3 files?
[08:40] <ruffus910> how do i do that (sorry im still getting used to ubuntu
[08:41] <isolat3dsh33p> Beezie_: I use GNOME alsamixer :/
[08:41] <eylisian> ruffus910: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[08:41] <RSMITH16384> ubuntu says i have rsyslog installed, how can i view the log?
[08:41] <ruffus910> eylisian: How could I run something that isnt installed on my computer?
[08:41] <greezmunkey> RSMITH16384, http://johncrackernet.blogspot.com/2008/09/howto-setup-syslog-server-in-ubuntu.html
[08:41] <Beezie_> isolat3dsh33p, i just installed QAMIX .
[08:41] <eylisian> ruffus910:  ah.
[08:41] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: if you mean me seeing as i cant see anyone named shestowitz, yes i am attempting to play mp3 files from my ipod
[08:42] <llutz> RSMITH16384: less /var/log/syslog
[08:42] <eylisian> ruffus910: heh, you mentioned you just wanted it to work again.
[08:42] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, did you get the link i sent you its how to go around the key.
[08:42] <Viking667> sorry about that. I've reboted.
[08:42] <Nirrad> hello i am using the latest ubuntu i am trying to install Fulltilt poker through wine. But i cannot seem to get the app to start  after install. I have installed the mscore fonts and copied all the dll files to the win32 folder but it still wont start. Any suggestions ?
[08:42] <oversize> when changing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to set my second screens resolution this gets overwritten after X restarts.Where do i have to set the resoultion?
[08:42] <ruffus910> eylisian: sorry, it has been a while since i asked the question. do you know how i could reinstall it?
[08:42] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: if that's the case, your line in should not be muted. :/
[08:43] <Viking667> Beezie_: the only problem seems to be when I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package. Once I installed that, then everything X-related went seriously sideways.
[08:43] <isolat3dsh33p> *line-in
[08:43] <eylisian> ruffus910: you got it from launchpad?
[08:43] <ruffus910> i_is_broke: yes i did get it, and will go throug hit in a minute
[08:43] <Viking667> Funnily enough, the terminal still accepts input even though both monitors are "dead"
[08:43] <i_is_broke> ruffus910, k just checking
[08:43] <Beezie_> Viking667, you might need to track down an elder version and install it from console
[08:43] <Viking667> "older" version of what?
[08:43] <ruffus910> eylisian: i did sudo apt-get install after putting in the software sources
[08:43] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: ok should i try unmuting it? how would i go about doing that?
[08:43] <Beezie_> Viking667, xorg-driver-fglrx package
[08:44] <ruffus910> eylisian: then today i uninstalled and want it reinstalled
[08:44] <Viking667> hahahaha... you _are_ kidding, aren't you?
[08:44] <Beezie_> no im serious.
[08:44] <Beezie_> :)
[08:44] <Viking667> *sigh*
[08:44] <artscience> error 15: file not found
[08:44] <Viking667> I was afraid you'd say that.
[08:44] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: turned it on but no dice. still nothing found under "hardware drivers", and "network tools 2.28.0" says state is "inactive"
[08:44] <eylisian> ruffus910: right. without a key or the link someone mentioned to work around no key, your box won't pull the package.
[08:44] <Beezie_> Viking667, dont take my advice as gospel. :)  its just a logical step since installing xorg-driver-fglrx might've caused it
[08:44] <Viking667> for the moment at least, I'm disabling it until I figure out whether it's worth the anguish.
[08:44] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: sound preferences->input->Connector->Line-in
[08:45] <artscience> I'm in grub in the terminal as a super user
[08:45] <eylisian> ruffus910: if it's launchpad related, import the key...
[08:45]  * eylisian looks
[08:45] <ruffus910> eylisian: when i do apt-get install now, it says there is no installation candidate
[08:45] <Beefcakes> hi where do the kernel modules reside in ubuntu? i need to apply a patch to a kernel module
[08:45] <Viking667> I had to remove fglrx-amdcccle too...
[08:45] <kr_ubuntu> how to add password policy in ldap for ubuntu?
[08:46] <geeknik_> ^2test
[08:46] <geeknik_> *hi
[08:46] <artscience> oh y'know what I can mount my ext3 partition with the ubuntu installation from live
[08:46] <mneptok> newtoubuntu2: do you see it listed when you run lspci ?
[08:46] <llutz> artscience: you haven't installed grub at all. try chrooting into your installation and reinstall grub with apt-get.
[08:46] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: just tried playing rhythmbox after unmuting. no luck there. i also forgot to add that when i select to play something in rhythmbox the play button turns to a pause button but the slider doesnt move at all
[08:46] <geeknik_> anyone having issues w/ their webrowser running slow w/ 9.1?
[08:46] <llutz> !chroot > artscience
[08:47] <i_is_broke> geeknik_, im not.
[08:47] <geeknik_> hmm
[08:47] <llutz> !anyone    | geeknik_
[08:47] <i_is_broke> geeknik_, what browser are you talking about for sure?
[08:47] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: it was always there
[08:48] <llutz> geeknik_: what exact is slow, what sites, what browser etc.pp
[08:48] <eylisian> ruffus910: without the key the src will be ignored. if you go to : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa  which i think you have already been to, click technical details, the repo key is there.
[08:48] <Beezie_> geeknik_, have you tried creating a new firefox profile ?
[08:48] <geeknik_> Ive tried firefox and chrome....both hesitate, "think" when going to pages...very intermittent
[08:48]  * eylisian looks for import
[08:49] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: if you haven't installed ubuntu restricted extras, try installing it.
[08:49] <geeknik_> doent happena ll the time but enuff to be a nuisance
[08:49] <Daifan> how do you disable the user join/leave messages on xchat?
[08:49] <a2f> i've got a monster of a question: why is it whenever i try to install xchat from a BRAND NEW installation, it tries to install a bunch of qt4 crap and the arora browser???????????
[08:49] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: i have installed that earlier whilst looking through help threads on my issue.
[08:49] <jtaji> geeknik_: firefox will get pretty bad when you have a lot of disk i/o going on sadly
[08:49] <artscience> llutz: so to clarify the command to chroot to my installation is...?
[08:50] <jtaji> geeknik_: happen to be copying files at the time?
[08:50] <geeknik_> I dont, just surfing, no diff than when I was running 9.04
[08:50] <Beezie_> geeknik_,  have you tried an internet speed test?
[08:50] <geeknik_> im not doing anything but surfing
[08:50] <mneptok> geeknik_: i assume you're talking about the w3m browser in the terminal?
[08:50] <Beezie_> geeknik_,  http://dslreports.com/speedtest
[08:50] <geeknik_> my speed is fine, its not my connection
[08:51] <llutz> eylisian: entries without key won't be ignored, you just will be asked to confirm if you want to install something from there
[08:51] <a2f> can someone please test for me if synaptic tries to install arora if you mark the package xchat for installation?
[08:51] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: If that's the case, sorry I can't help you. :/
[08:51] <meowbuntu> hive application
[08:51] <llutz> !chroot > artscience
[08:52] <eylisian> llutz: I believe with a ppa key, my machines won't install anything.
[08:52] <Beefcakes> I dont get it... im running the update manager and its only installing gdm now... why dont i have the gnome display manager already?
[08:52] <meowbuntu> hi i'm looking for a zip archive application
[08:52] <scythepdas> isolat3dsh33p: no problem thanks for all your help. best of luck.
[08:52] <eylisian> ruffus910: http://www.aldeby.org/blog/adding-the-key-of-a-launchpad-ppa-repository.html use those instructions to import the key at the FF 3.6 launchpad page.
[08:52] <Beezie_> meowbuntu, to open or create zip?
[08:52] <meowbuntu> for compressing un compressing  files.
[08:52] <isolat3dsh33p> scythepdas: you're welcome :)
[08:52] <eylisian> llutz: s/with/without
[08:52] <a2f> meowbuntu i remember you for last nite, here's a question i just asked... seems to be a pretty big problem after i've reinstalled like 5 times tonight
[08:53] <a2f> why is it whenever i try to install xchat from a BRAND NEW installation, it tries to install a bunch of qt4 crap and the arora browser?
[08:53] <Daifan> set irc_conf_mode 1
[08:53] <Nirrad> anyone else tried installing fulltilt poker ?
[08:53] <Beezie_> meowbuntu, 7zip is good
[08:53] <anonymous_> hi : is there an irc help for rosetta ?
[08:53] <meowbuntu> a2f whats up
[08:53] <a2f> just pasted the q
[08:53] <Viking667> anonymous_: which rosetta?
[08:53] <meowbuntu> ah i remember. can 7zip handle bz2 files
[08:53] <Viking667> The language translator?
[08:53] <anonymous_> yes
[08:53] <anonymous_> for https://translations.launchpad.net
[08:54] <meowbuntu> anonymous_, yes to who
[08:54] <geirha> anonymous_: #ubuntu-translators
[08:54] <isolat3dsh33p> a2f: I install xchat using the apt-get. No behavior like what you said.
[08:54] <newtoubuntu2> mneptok: any futher help?
[08:54] <a2f> well i've been doing it from the command line and it's giving me that problem every time
[08:54] <Viking667> meowbuntu: and yes, it seems to support .bz2
[08:55] <eylisian> llutz: I think it's because you can't pull the list.  it can be over ridden, but I don't think I ever would.
[08:55] <anonymous_> geirha, thanks
[08:55] <Viking667> anonymous_: by the way, there seem to be two "rosetta" programs
[08:55] <a2f> meowbuntu does synaptic try to install arora for you if you try to install xdg-utils?
[08:55] <meowbuntu> isolat3dsh33p, in terminal type. sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:56] <a2f> why is synaptic so ****ed up for me even after i've reinstalled like 10 times in the past 2 days
[08:56] <meowbuntu> Viking667, , 7zip is not in synaptic
[08:56] <preecher> setup vpn server on my windows xp work machine- trying to get vpn client to work on my ubuntu laptop- unable to connect -any suggestions?
[08:57] <surlo> Well, I've installed WoW and Burning Crusade Expansion, but when I try to install WOTLK, I open the installer.exe with Wine installer and still the "Agree" button is not "lighting" up when I reach teh end of the End User License.
[08:57] <ruffus910> eylisian: still says no installation candidate
[08:57] <Viking667> meowbuntu: hm.
[08:57] <arooni-mobile> if i acidentally ran 'sudo mke2fs /dev/sdc6' for one sec only before control+c'ing it (because i wanted to run mke2fs -n instead.. will e2fsck fix it ?  or is tihs file system lost forever?
[08:57] <jtaji> a2f: now that's possible, here it shows www-browser as a depends http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/xdg-utils
[08:57] <Beezie_> meowbuntu, ark is, try ark
[08:57]  * om26er thinks empathy is getting better
[08:57] <jtaji> a2f: one of 24 options for www-browser is arora, interestingly it's the first one alphabetically
[08:57] <Beezie_> meowbuntu, zipper is another
[08:57] <meowbuntu> Viking667, i used 7zip in xp. but that was like 8 months ago
[08:58] <Viking667> install p7zip
[08:58] <Viking667> That's the 7zip program
[08:58] <Viking667> (or appears to be, anyhow)
[08:58] <jtaji> a2f: so if you didn't have a www-browser installed already...
[08:59] <a2f> jtaji, this all started happening last nite when i tried installing google-chrome-beta... one of its dependencies is xdg-utils so when it installs that for some reason arora comes with it
[09:00] <jtaji> meowbuntu: you might want p7zip-full , supports other compression formats like 7zip for windows
[09:00] <artao> hello virtual people
[09:00] <preecher> setup vpn server on my windows xp work machine- trying to get vpn client to work on my ubuntu laptop- unable to connect -any suggestions?
[09:00]  * Viking667 prods himself
[09:00] <artao> many are here
[09:00] <Viking667> ow
[09:00] <Viking667> Nope, I'm not virtual
[09:00] <i_is_broke> ugh i didnt know there was kernel updates today....great lets see if it trashes the system again.
[09:00] <artao> viking ... we're all virtual
[09:00] <artao> lol
[09:00] <ThePassingShadow> Does anyone perhaps know of an app that puts two different images as two different wallpapers in Ubuntu ?
[09:00] <artao> ............. advice needed ..........
[09:00] <Viking667> have it your way. I'm physical
[09:01] <artao> lol
[09:01] <sid_> i have ubuntu 9.10 installed .....but in this its taking very long time to copy files from hard disk to pen drive????
[09:01] <artao> this is NOT the board i' m looking for .........
[09:01] <jozefk> sid_, did you try with MC?
[09:01] <Viking667> If I weren't physical, then you wouldn't see any input from me. I'm not exactly a computer program. Eliza has _nothing_ on me.
[09:01] <Beezie_> sid_, is port and usb pen drive both usb 2.0?
[09:01] <artao> what board can I use for relationship advice?
[09:01] <artao> ..................
[09:02] <sid_> beezie:its 2.0
[09:02] <Viking667> considering this isn't a "board", go try a date.
[09:02]  * Viking667 dumps out of here.
[09:02] <sid_> josefk:sorry mc?
[09:02] <jozefk> Midnight Commander
[09:02] <artao> board is a general term these days .......... sorry
[09:02] <jozefk> artao, i'm in love with your dashed lines :D
[09:03] <DaZ> dashed? >:
[09:03] <powertool08> I'm trying to share my printer with samba and xp boxes can see it, but when I connect it says it could not find a driver. I've put several inf files from the printer install cd into /var/lib/samba/printers but its still not finding them. What am I doing wrong?
[09:03] <artao> trying a date ........ but need advice .......... need proper 'board' as it were
[09:03] <sid_> josefk:no i didint try with dat
[09:03] <jozefk> sid_, why not?
[09:03] <DaZ> artao: you'll find something on usenet
[09:04] <artao> usenet is HUGE
[09:04] <artao> this is part of it
[09:04] <sid_> josefk:i directly copy paste?
[09:04] <DaZ> eh
[09:04] <jtaji> !ot | artao
[09:04] <geeknik_> close
[09:04] <Daemonis> hi there
[09:04] <Beezie_> !ask | Daemonis
[09:05] <artao> this was the most active board i could find on freenet thus I ask for 'romantic' board reccomendations here ... if u follw me
[09:05] <DaZ> Beezie_: maybe he just wanted to say hi :f
[09:05] <Beezie_> true :)
[09:05] <jozefk> sid_, in terminal type "mc" and then copy your files. select them with Insert key on keyboard and hit F5 after that. you must to open your external HDD on the other side of MC of course :)
[09:05] <surlo> Hello there. I experience an issue. I installed succesfully WoW and Burning Crusade expansion with Wine. But when I try to install the Wotlk expansion , I open the installer with wine but I am unable to hit the ''Agree'' button in the term of agreement. Any idea?
[09:05] <sid_> josefk:k ill do that ...thanks
[09:05] <jozefk> i mean in other panel
[09:05] <Beefcakes> is there a way to list applications i installed via make install?
[09:05] <newtoubuntu2> llutz: Beezie_: uh, still stuck w/ no wireless. right now trying a ndiswrapper but the make is bumping into errors
[09:05] <jozefk> np
[09:06] <DaZ> surlo: scroll through the license? :f
[09:06] <Daemonis> is this channel strictly for support or is it to chat also? lol
[09:06] <jozefk> haha
[09:06] <jozefk> she quit
[09:06] <surlo> Daz: it doesnt work either if you reach the end
[09:06] <jozefk> :P
[09:06] <jtaji> Beefcakes: not really, if you were smart enough to install them under the /usr/local hierarchy they should all be under there
[09:06] <jozefk> he*
[09:06] <Beezie_> newtoubuntu2, u had a broadcom wireless if i recall. have you googled your model # and see if others had problems on forums?
[09:06] <artao> lol i waste my time here, don't i?
[09:06] <newtoubuntu2> yea, evidently broadcom doesnt release their spec.
[09:07] <geirha> surlo: Try #winehq
[09:07] <Beefcakes> jtaji: i'll remember that the next time.. but how do i specifically install them under /usr/local ?
[09:07] <powertool08> Daemonis: It's supposed to be support only.
[09:07] <Beezie_> that isnt what i meant
[09:07] <surlo> geirha: thank you
[09:07] <artao> what channel should i use for romantic relationship questions ??
[09:07] <Beezie_> artao, #dalnet..
[09:07] <Beefcakes> artao: LOL
[09:07] <artao> ty
[09:07] <jtaji> Beefcakes: it can usually be specified during the config step... also even better there's checkinstall
[09:07] <powertool08> !ot | Daemonis If you want to chat
[09:07] <jtaji> !checkinstall | Beefcakes
[09:07] <Freedom234> what is happening to ubuntu forums?
[09:08] <Beefcakes> jtaji: checkinstall -D make install always fails on me =/
[09:08] <oneirosFade> Does anyone here have (or have experience with) eBooks (esp. the Sony PRS-300) under Linux?  I haven't been able to find a viable way to buy/download/manage eBooks with Ubuntu :(
[09:08] <newtoubuntu2> Beezie_: yes, i am reading online. that's what they mentioned. will try going to broadcom's site and see if they have something.
[09:08] <Freedom234> i get database error,when i try going to ubuntu forums
[09:08] <travmon> maybe   forums  are  in  maintance
[09:08] <Daemonis> Does anyone have any experience with SAMBA on ubuntu server 8.10? I've tried setting up a simple file server that is publicaly accessible on my windows network, and have managed to get as far as being able to see it on the network, but no matter what I try it won't let me connect to it. I'd like to set it up to where no username or password was needed.
[09:08] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, mine is also a broadcomm adaptor but it work perfectly in ubuntu9.10
[09:08] <jtaji> Beefcakes: yeah it's not foolproof, but using the /usr/local hierarchy is good enough to keep them separate from the package system, and have a chance at removing them if need be
[09:09] <newtoubuntu2> bhuvi: how did it work?
[09:10] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, it works by default
[09:10] <Kris07> Hi, I'm having some problems with Compiz, my Cube Caps or Skydome don't seem to be working properly, can anybody help?
[09:10] <adorablepuppy> Help! I was installing Ubuntu to an SD Card (stupidly) and it ate my Windows 7 MBR on the primary hard drive!
[09:10] <Freedom234> whats the point in having compiz?
[09:11] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, wat version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:11] <willemb> greetings
[09:11] <Kris07> For the effects
[09:11] <oneirosFade> Freedom234:  That's not terribly helpful, you know.
[09:11] <Daemonis> Puppy, maybe you could boot into the live cd and use a program from ubuntu to restore the mbr
[09:11] <powertool08> Kris07: Compiz has its own channel at #compiz, might get more help there.
[09:11] <usagi> wth is gnome so broken?
[09:11] <willemb> I am considering buying a Compaq Mini 110c for my father for Christmas
[09:11] <MenZa> surlo: Define 'broken'. Next, don't swear.
[09:12] <willemb> and loading unr on it
[09:12] <Kris07> Powertool08, I tried
[09:12] <newtoubuntu2> bhuvi: same, 9.10
[09:12] <willemb> however, when he uses it at home, he will want to use it with his external screen
[09:12] <usagi> i have the japanese kb layout and theres no |
[09:12] <jtaji> adorablepuppy: that's really a #windows question... no experience with Windows 7, but in the past you would boot the windows install cd and use fixmbr
[09:12] <willemb> on which the remix interface will be less than optimal
[09:12] <adorablepuppy> jtaji: There was no install CD for this laptop
[09:12] <jtaji> adorablepuppy: yep so... #windows
[09:13] <willemb> can he switch back and forth between that and the traditional interface quickly and easily?
[09:13] <adorablepuppy> jtaji: It's not a windows issue.
[09:13] <Beezie_> adorablepuppy, sec....
[09:13] <geirha> adorablepuppy: For the future, on the last step of the installer, there's an "Advanced" button in which you can choose where grub should be installed. The default is the main hard drive, regardless of where you install ubuntu
[09:13] <szyzln> I'm  com from China
[09:13] <adorablepuppy> This problem is specifically being caused by grub.
[09:13] <oneirosFade> willemb:  There's an option in the config tab of UNR to go to traditional
[09:13] <usagi> MenZa: now could you explain me wth gnome decided to remove the | from the layout?
[09:13] <jtaji> adorablepuppy: oh it sure is, you want to restore the Windows MBR
[09:13] <travmon> supergrubdisk  should  fix  mbr
[09:13] <adorablepuppy> jtaji: I don't want to restore the windows MBR.
[09:13] <MenZa> usagi: No. Try irc.gnome.org.
[09:13] <willemb> oneirosFade:  and easy to go back again?  Sorry, I have never tried the netbook remix
[09:13] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, have you looked in system->administration->hardware drivers,is there any drivers listed
[09:13] <usagi> MenZa: simply impossible to grep for something
[09:13] <j3llyf15h> hey I was tired in my ubuntu 8.10>>>modprobe: Fatal: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.29.4/modules.dep: no such file or directory>> how to fix this???
[09:14] <jtaji> adorablepuppy: you said it ate your Win 7 MBR
[09:14] <usagi> MenZa: will do
[09:14] <oneirosFade> willemb:  I imagine it's just as easy to switch back, though I've never tried
[09:14] <adorablepuppy> I want to make grub see my windows 7 so I can go back and redo the MBR through recovery.
[09:14] <Beezie_> adorablepuppy, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[09:14] <ifconfig|grep> Hey there, how does hosting muiltable computers from the same IP work?
[09:14] <ifconfig|grep> them all being ubuntu
[09:14] <adorablepuppy> Beezie: Thanks.
[09:14] <newtoubuntu2> bhuvi: no drivers listed. also made sure that the wireless is active in BIOS.
[09:14] <travmon> supergrubdisk  rocks
[09:14] <Freedom234>  i rock
[09:14] <Beezie_> adorablepuppy, im not 100% if it can restore win32 mbrs but its worth a look
[09:14] <Daemonis> Does anyone know how I would go about setting up SAMBA on ubuntu server 8.10 so that it is publicly accessible on a windows network?
[09:15] <ifconfig|grep> ...
[09:15] <adorablepuppy> . . . only I'm on a live CD right now, I dunno how I'm going to download this and I don't know how I'm going to install it either. :_;
[09:15] <Beezie_> Daemonis, you mean the shares are 100% promiscuous?
[09:15] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, what is your wifi device model
[09:15] <Daemonis> Yes, that's what I mean. No username or password required..
[09:15] <willemb> I can't seem to find any good information on the web:  Any idea why I cannot get unr to boot in qemu?
[09:15] <newtoubuntu2> bcm4309
[09:15] <newtoubuntu2> bhuvi: bcm4309
[09:15] <MenZa> !grub2 | adorablepuppy
[09:16] <indus> hi
[09:16] <Beezie_> Daemonis, http://www.debuntu.org/guest-file-sharing-with-samba
[09:16] <Daemonis> Thank you.
[09:16] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: hmmm are you sure you are running 8.10?
[09:17] <j3llyf15h> yeahh I'm sure  (BT4_pre-release)
[09:17] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: what does cat /etc/lsb-release says?
[09:18] <oneirosFade> So, nobody knows anything about ereaders/ebooks under Ubuntu?
[09:18] <j3llyf15h> <<<DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[09:18] <j3llyf15h> DISTRIB_RELEASE=8.10
[09:18] <j3llyf15h> DISTRIB_CODENAME=intrepid
[09:18] <j3llyf15h> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.10"
[09:18] <j3llyf15h> >>>>
[09:18] <FloodBot1> j3llyf15h: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <bigRoN> I just discovered an annoyance. I have Ubuntu Karmic 64-bit installed on my computer with a 250 GB internal hard drive. I also have a 3 TB NAS.  I created symbolic links for several of my media folders, such as music, photos and download directory into my home directory... to make getting to them easier. Unfortunately, this made Ubuntu think that I had run out of room in my home directory, because the size of these symbolic links wer
[09:18] <bigRoN> e larger than the local hard drive. Once I deleted the symbolic links, no more errors saying I was out of drive space. Bizarre. Anyone else experienced this or have any ideas?
[09:19] <bigRoN> The symbolic links refer to directories on the NAS if I wasn't clear enough.
[09:19] <j3llyf15h> ??///?
[09:19] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: Coz 8.10 carries a 2.6.27 kernel not 2.6.29
[09:19] <O__o> hey how to install chrome in ubuntu?
[09:20] <bigRoN> Chromium?
[09:20] <Carborane> I reinstalled a program with apt-get (wine) but it did not recreate the entries in the Applications menu, is there any way to get it to do so without manually adding each entry?
[09:20] <isolat3dsh33p> O__o: no chrome in ubuntu try Chromium instead
[09:20] <O__o> isolat3dsh33p, then how?
[09:20] <cell0> how do i find which files are read/written to the most on my system?
[09:20] <willemb> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[09:20] <jozefk> j3llyf15h, what's happened with your nick?
[09:20] <willemb> without the -src, even
[09:20] <davep> hmm. what exactly do i need set up before linux will NAT?
[09:20] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, mine is BCM4312 and it works perfectly fine,have you tried searching for it ubuntu forums
[09:21] <davep> i have hostapd set up, dhcp working, and another laptop connected
[09:21] <isolat3dsh33p> !chromium | O__o
[09:21] <davep> but it isnt routing anything.
[09:21] <newtoubuntu2> bhuvi: they're down...
[09:21] <O__o> isolat3dsh33p, is there flash?
[09:21] <j3llyf15h> Rajasun
[09:21] <bigRoN> I came to IRC as well because the forums were down...
[09:21]  * om26er thinks if want something stable try google chrome
[09:21] <isolat3dsh33p> O__o: Not sure, me myself haven't try it yet.
[09:22] <davep> wait, i forgot one thing.
[09:22] <willemb> youtube works, if that counts
[09:22] <Beezie_> O__o, flash works in chrome
[09:22] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, oh! i thought it was a problem with my internet connection
[09:23] <ayeizajedi> hey everyone, i have a sony vaio VGN-FW11E laptop with a Radeon HD 34xx graphics card, when i performed an update i inadvertantly installed the glrfx graphics drivers thus replacing the stock ATI ones in place.. needless to say i now can  no longer get into the GUI and am stuck at the CLI having run the recovery mode from grub.  can anyone help with getting this correclty configured again please?
[09:23] <j3llyf15h> >>>>?????
[09:23] <Beezie_> ayeizajedi, someone was in here with that exact issue 1h ago
[09:24] <davep> hmm, how can i set ip_forward to 1 in one command?
[09:24] <davep> if i do: sudo echo '1' > ip_forward
[09:24] <davep> the "echo '1'" runs as root
[09:24] <davep> the redirection, does not.
[09:24] <Flannel> davep: echo '1' | sudo tee ip_forward
[09:24] <Flannel> davep: to append (>>) use `tee -a`
[09:24] <rober2> small help please: hoe do I activate or access the DISK MANAGER in ubuntu (pls see what i mean - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiskManagerByDefault
[09:25] <ayeizajedi> Beezie_: any idea what the solution was?
[09:25] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, i found a tutorial on how to make it work it's for 9.04 ,you could give it a try http://johnnydopefish.blogspot.com/2009/02/ubuntu-810-dell-inspiron-5100-broadcom.html
[09:25]  * om26er says lxde is super fast
[09:25] <davep> sweet!
[09:25] <Rajasun> O__o: http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux Or add this to your sources.list -> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main deb -> run sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install google-chrome-beta
[09:25] <davep> the ping suddenly started working
[09:25] <davep> thanks :D
[09:25] <j3llyf15h> hey I was tired in my ubuntu 8.10>>>modprobe: Fatal: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.29.4/modules.dep: no such file or directory>> how to fix this???
[09:25]  * davep has never used tee before >.>
[09:25] <isolat3dsh33p> ayeizajedi: Maybe you could change the xorg.conf using the liveCD
[09:25] <Beezie_> ayeizajedi, he considered tracking the old install down and reinstalling it to fix it
[09:26] <davep> it works! 3g wifi router >:D
[09:26] <Beezie_> isolat3dsh33p, he can get a console login so he can prolly do it without live cd
[09:27] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: Ubuntu 8.10 intrepid's officially ships and supports a 2.6.27 kernel not a 2.6.29 one
[09:28] <isolat3dsh33p> Beezie_: That makes sense. (^_^;)
[09:28] <davep> what kind of problems can i expect with an unsupported kernel?
[09:28] <davep> ...anything? :D
[09:28] <davep> (or everything, rather)
[09:28] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: what does uname -rsa shows?
[09:28] <wlada> hi everybody..
[09:29] <Rajasun> davep: well a thousand and one things...google for them at www.google.com/linux...stick to the official one if possible
[09:29] <j3llyf15h> -laptop 2.6.29.4 #1 SMP Thu Jun 18 10:57:32 EDT 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:29] <jozefk> zdravo vlado :))
[09:30] <kraut> moin
[09:30] <davep> i would, but the official one doesnt play nice with hostapd :\
[09:30] <O__o> Rajasun, error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnss3-1d
[09:30] <davep> eeek
[09:30] <davep> pppd doesnt work
[09:30]  * jozefk brb. lunch
[09:30] <davep> wait, it needs root
[09:30] <davep> nevermind
[09:30] <davep> :D
[09:30] <wlada> I'm experiencing troubles since last update with both my computers running Ubuntu 9.10... the graphical file manager is freezing all the time.. (cmds from shell works fine) anybody has same experience?
[09:31] <Rajasun> j3llyf15h: See http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu -> scrolld down till you see Package -> linus...what does it says about 8.10 and the kernel i.e. linux?
[09:31] <Rajasun> linux*
[09:31] <mgv1> what are good channels on teamspeak?
[09:31] <albech__> mgv1, channels?
[09:32] <mgv1> albech__, yes - voice channels
[09:32] <nisshh> mgv1: whichever ones you like
[09:32] <mgv1> nisshh, do you know of any active one?
[09:33] <om26er> !test
[09:34] <Rajasun> 0__o: libnss3-1d is in main. Type apt-cache policy libnss3-1d. sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install libnss3-1d
[09:34] <mgv1> does anyone is familier with teamspeak?????????
[09:34] <wlada> Sorry for copying my question, but I'm confused what is happening... I'm experiencing troubles since last update with both my computers running Ubuntu 9.10... the graphical file manager is freezing all the time.. (cmds from shell works fine) anybody has same experience?
[09:36] <Rajasun> 0__0: or just add that deb line I told you about, re-run sudo aptitdue update && sudo aptitude install google-chrome-beta . I have been running it for 2 days already. before that I was using the unstable deb. See http://www.imgplace.com/viewimg44/4683/9609dec2009228gnomee.png
[09:36] <Beezie_> its ok wlada someone will help eventually
[09:37] <albech> mgv1, you just want to talk or any specific topic? its like asking if anyone know a book.. we all do, but what do you want to read?
[09:37] <viggy_prabhu> hi friends,
[09:37] <albech> hi | viggy_prabhu
[09:38] <viggy_prabhu> i want to install a LTSP server
[09:38] <chenhui> hi everyone
[09:38] <chenhui> what about you talked?
[09:38] <a2f> anyone know how to install XLibs-dev on karmic?
[09:39] <viggy_prabhu> I saw in a wiki that f4 option will give me an option to install a ltsp server
[09:39] <viggy_prabhu> But in ubuntu9.10-desltop version, I couldnt find such option,
[09:39] <viggy_prabhu> Is it present in 9.10 server version?
[09:39] <Beezie_> viggy_prabhu, or alternate version
[09:39] <handsaw> ubuntu web forums often down this long?
[09:39] <Beezie_> viggy_prabhu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
[09:40] <viggy_prabhu> Can anybody confirm it, before I download it
[09:40] <jtaji> viggy_prabhu: looks like it's on the alternate install cd
[09:40] <jtaji> !alternate | viggy_prabhu
[09:40] <viggy_prabhu> oh ok
[09:40] <bhuvi> newtoubuntu2, does it work for u?
[09:41] <viggy_prabhu> Beezie_, jtaji ubottu Thanks a lot
[09:41] <viggy_prabhu> will check it out
[09:41] <kr_ubuntu> i have setup ldapserver on my machine.But i am not able to create a ldapuser?
[09:41] <kr_ubuntu> i am getting a error that Cannot resolve group example to gid : not found
[09:42] <jtaji> kr_ubuntu: do you actually have a group named example on your system? most likely not...
[09:42] <jtaji> kr_ubuntu: some where in your ldap config you need to change that to a real group
[09:43] <jtaji> e.g. users
[09:43] <indus> !chrome
[09:44] <indus> google chrome beta now available
[09:44] <kr_ubuntu> jtaji, sorry but i didn't get that."example" group exist
[09:44] <kr_ubuntu> jtaji, i just ldapsearch on it to view the group
[09:44] <om26er> !chromium | indus
[09:44] <jtaji> kr_ubuntu: standard linux users/groups
[09:44] <indus> time to get rid of crappy firefox
[09:45] <indus> om26er: old news buddy, chrome for linux beta is official now
[09:45] <Rajasun> Chrome or Chromium let the user decide for himself or herself...each has the right to choose. we aren't some proprietary OS.
[09:45] <jtaji> kr_ubuntu: the error is saying it's trying to resolve groupname example to a gid... you do not have an example group in your /etc/group
[09:45] <indus> the name is proprietary
[09:45] <cell0> how do i find which files are read/written to the most on my system? Anyone?
[09:46] <om26er> indus: know that, but chromium will come with lucid ARM netbook so chromium
[09:46] <indus> http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux&hl=en  get it now !
[09:46] <Daemonis> Are there any good video editing software available for ubuntu?
[09:46] <om26er> !spam | indus
[09:46] <Rajasun> indus: you still don't get the drift do ya? ;)
[09:46] <indus> Rajasun: nope
[09:46] <om26er> Daemonis: pitivi,
[09:47] <jussi01> indus: please dont promote beta software in here. Also, please keep on the topic of ubuntu support
[09:47] <jtaji> cell0: the read part isn't going to be at all possible on modern distros.. most use relatime on your disks to disable writing read access time to disk
[09:47] <Rajasun> indus: that was meant to be a poke on a well known OS
[09:47] <indus> jussi01: its kinda support forthose who aer fed up with firefox
[09:47] <jtaji> cell0: you'd have to change that
[09:47] <indus> jussi01: so those who ask ff questions in here, iam gonna send them to that link :D
[09:47] <kr_ubuntu> jtaji, yes it not there in /etc/group
[09:48] <kr_ubuntu> jtaji, so i am do some setting for this
[09:48] <albech> isnt chrome just a wine emulation of the windows version, still?
[09:48] <cell0> jtaji: But isn't there a way to determine which file is ACCESSES the most?
[09:48] <indus> iam downloading it now
[09:48] <Rajasun> indus: i.e. their software lock-in, their behavior, attitude, way of doing things
[09:48] <jussi01> indus: no, it isnt. unless someone comes in and asks, What are the firefox alternatives, I need a new browser". further discussion on what is support and what isnt please join us in #ubuntu-ops
[09:48] <DASPRiD> cell0, i bet it's /dev/null ;)
[09:48] <om26er> albech: wow
[09:48] <Rajasun> albech:nope
[09:49] <indus> jussi01: also what is free speech?
[09:49] <jussi01> indus: move on.
[09:49] <albech> well forgive me i havent tried it on my linux box.. i wasnt too impressed on the windows
[09:49] <indus> jussi01: yes lets
[09:49] <jtaji> lol free speech in a private channel
[09:49] <jtaji> cell0: not if read access times aren't recorded
[09:49] <indus> foss :) free and open source speech
[09:49] <cell0> DASPRiD: I'm not that much of a noob
[09:50] <DASPRiD> cell0, wasn't meant like that :)
[09:50] <indus> Daemonis: tried kino and cinerella
[09:50] <indus> !info kino
[09:50] <DASPRiD> did you know that "kino" is the russian word for "movie"?
[09:50] <cell0> jtaji: I've got relatime set in fstab. Now how do i access this info?
[09:50] <om26er> !ot | DASPRiD
[09:51] <Rajasun> albech: it is a well-known fact that Canonical i.e. the company behind Ubuntu have been extending "engineering assistance" to Google in the development of their Chrome OS. Google for it.
[09:51] <indus> DASPRiD: nice info thanks
[09:52] <om26er> is there a way to use network-manager in lxde session? no wicd.
[09:53] <Rajasun> albech: See http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3436052937.html
[09:53] <indus> Rajasun: is your name rajasundaram
[09:54] <Daemonis> Okay another question... are there any programs out there that let you create your own Ubuntu themes?
[09:54] <ranjan> Hello every body can any body can tell me how to install sound theme in ubuntu 9.10
[09:55] <Rajasun> indus: nope. It is a sarcastic mock on some previously 2002 and now 2012 domdayers. Hint: google zetatalk, nibiru. Been using it for years.
[09:55] <Rajasun> ;)
[09:55] <albech> Rajasun, i was actually referring to the browser, but I might have misunderstood the conversation. I am well aware that Chrome OS is based on Debian..
[09:55] <jtaji> cell0: relatime only changes access time if the last access time is older than the last write time.. so it's not at all accurate
[09:55] <mgv1> albech, to first expirience the program voice chat
[09:55] <indus> Daemonis: well, theme is a collecition of diff things like an icon set, the window appearance etc
[09:55] <Kalessin> Hello, I have a trivial question, but I don't find the answer : I'm running karmic koala with gnome and al. How do I boot in single user mode ?
[09:55] <Rajasun> albech: specifically Ubuntu
[09:55] <jtaji> cell0: but I mean you can use find to sort files by last access... not sure how you can collect statistical data though
[09:55] <indus> Daemonis: so for icons , you can use inkscape , for other things you should ask  someone here :)
[09:56] <om26er> ranjan: here is an example sound theme package for karmic. sudo apt-get install sound-theme-freedesktop
[09:56] <Daemonis> Ah, okay. Thanks ;)
[09:56] <indus> !inkscape
[09:56] <indus> Daemonis: many ubuntu theme icons are made using unkscape
[09:56] <kraut> does anybody know, why my ubuntu means while it's booting, the raid is degraded, but after the boot  everything is fine?
[09:57] <Daemonis> Would you be able to use something like GIMP to do it too?
[09:57] <nibbler> kraut, what is in /proc/mdstat (or was it mdstats?)
[09:57] <indus> Daemonis: gimp is mainly for photo editing but probably yes
[09:57] <DASPRiD> Daemonis, but then, with gimp you can only create pixel-icons, not vector-icons
[09:57] <virtuald> kalessin: if you don't get a grub menu, press escape for the old grub or shift for grub 2 to get there
[09:58] <Rajasun> albech: it may be on their offficial blog...I'm too lazy to dig that page up, go google for itI recall going through the changelog, lots of linux code changes mentioned. Chrome ain't emulation software but Google Chrome for Debian/Ubuntu/FC are native Linux apps.
[09:58] <kraut> nibbler: http://pastebin.com/m25ea3057
[09:58] <Rajasun> app*
[09:58] <indus> Daemonis: gimp is raster graphics , inkscape is vector, so icons is good with it,you can scale up or down without losing definition
[09:58] <ardchoille> Thank you Flannel
[09:58] <indus> Daemonis: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Create-Your-Own-Sexylicious-Ubuntu-Desktop-80189.shtml
[09:58] <Tina-> why are all grub2 splashes so that you cant read the txt anymore :s
[09:59] <Deiz> Any of you have the malicious .deb from gnome-look handy?
[09:59] <a2f> anyone aware of any good monitor tuning software for linux?
[09:59] <naoshige> hi
[09:59] <naoshige> does ubuntu have its own built-in ftpd (like FreeBSD)?
[09:59] <kathleen> a2f: to monitor what?
[09:59] <indus> Daemonis: then there are gtk tools like widget factory etc
[09:59] <Flannel> naoshige: No, but you can install one easily enough
[09:59] <pj> how can I set the task bar icons to group in Karmic like they used to in older ubuntu versions?
[10:00] <naoshige> Flannel: but then it's like which one do I install
[10:00] <naoshige> and i have to do research
[10:00] <ravigehlot> Hey everyone...my laptop makes an annoying sound as I use it. It turned down the volume but it still acts up like that. The laptop brand/model is SONY PCG-GRT390ZP
[10:00] <naoshige> ask people, get into flame wars
[10:00] <Deiz> naoshige: vsftpd is quite popular
[10:00] <a2f> kathleen, haha i meant LCD monitor :)
[10:00] <naoshige> Deiz: yeah that one is pretty hot
[10:00] <Flannel> naoshige: I suggest ditching ftp, and going with sftp
[10:00] <a2f> kathleen, something to get the colors right
[10:00] <bishops> hello i have this problem, i was trying to install wicd for my internet connection on ubuntu, so it removed the gnome default one, and then it stopped downloading because there wasn't any internet software to connect me. How can I re-install an internet program without being connected?
[10:00] <naoshige> Flannel: good idea
[10:00] <nibbler> kraut, if you recently rebooted, it seems to be ok - after reboot it sould not talk about "rebuilding" there... do you have differnt harddisk controllers in use? maybe one is found at boot time, and one later?
[10:00] <Flannel> naoshige: Unless you need ftp for compatability reasons.
[10:00] <naoshige> sshd is already running
[10:00] <Tina-> is there a way to get the full source of the unr netbookstarter app?
[10:00] <Flannel> naoshige: Then you're already all set up
[10:00] <indus> Daemonis: check the gnome dev site for metacity themes
[10:00] <naoshige> not really I just need to upload some code
[10:00] <cell0> jtaji: do you know the command?
[10:01]  * Tina- wants to 'steal' it
[10:01] <plouffe> I just upgraded to Karmic Koala and now I can't boot into Ubuntu
[10:01] <adac> Could someone post me his .bashrc file? After every newstart my history is gone :(
[10:01] <Flannel> Tina-: Do you know what package it is?
[10:01] <Daemonis> okay. thanks.
[10:01] <om26er> bishops: reboot and connect ethernet cable for internet
[10:01] <Tina-> Flannel: second
[10:01] <kathleen> a2f: ah.. shoudl be but i've never used any. i defer to others' wisdom
[10:01] <_vbu> *all: i am trying run a kind of scary app on linux and linux kernel panics after sometime. Does linux kernel create core files to debug.
[10:02] <plouffe> I just upgraded to Karmic Koala and now I can't boot into Ubuntu
[10:02] <bishops> om26er: it does not even see an ethernet connection!
[10:02] <Tina-> netbook-launcher it is
[10:02] <adac> Thius is mine by the way: http://pastie.org/737028
[10:02] <kraut> nibbler: it's everytime and it's only one controller
[10:02] <plouffe> I just upgraded to Karmic Koala and now I can't boot into Ubuntu
[10:02] <kraut> nibbler: just two sata disks on one sata-controller
[10:02] <om26er> bishops: reboot.?
[10:03] <Daemonis> Have you tried the rescue my system option on the cd, plouffe?
[10:03] <indus> Daemonis: some thing more http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html
[10:03] <om26er> !repeat | plouffe
[10:03] <kraut> nibbler: it only boots automatically, if i do bootdegraded=true
[10:03] <indus> plouffe: try recovery mode
[10:03] <kraut> nibbler: that happens after i upgraded to 9.10
[10:03] <indus> plouffe: from grub boot menu
[10:04] <artscience> alright the saga continues..I'm so close I can taste it
[10:04] <Tina-> is it always that hard when you do a dist-upgrade, seems lot of ppl having issues?
[10:04] <nibbler> kraut, well, if you tell him to boot degraded, i am not suprised your raid is degraded during boot. the question would be then, what happens if you dont boot degraded on cammand?
[10:04] <frogzoo> Tina-: I upgraded to koala without any issues
[10:04] <Tina-> or do they just lack enough common senseµ,
[10:04] <artscience> for those of you just tuning in I'm setting up a triple boot system on my intel macbook
[10:04] <Tina-> :x
[10:05] <plouffe> indus how do I get into the grub boot menu?
[10:05] <frogzoo> Tina-: some upgrades broke horribly, but that was a long time back
[10:05] <frogzoo> Tina-: usually even if it's not 100%, it's fixable these days
[10:05] <pj> anyone?  it seems like my task bar icons won't group in Karmic anymore, anyone know if there's a setting to get them to group again?
[10:05] <indus> plouffe: if you dont, press esc multiple times to see boot menu
[10:05] <Tina-> frogzoo: k , i hope so ;)
[10:05] <kraut> nibbler: it asks me, if i want to boot in degraded mode or not, but when i do this, everything is fine as you could see in /proc/mdstat
[10:05] <artscience> I reinstalled ubuntu this time with the boot loader installed onto the partition and rEFIt now recognizes it hooray!
[10:06] <Rajasun> Tina: It depends. e.g. If you have installed some 3rd party unsupported software on your system, support for some hardware may also have been dropped in the new release (always check the release announcement and related), and then there is the user.
[10:06] <weijia> im installed google chrome ,so good
[10:06] <nibbler> kraut, what happens if you dont do that?
[10:06] <adac> Anyone??
[10:06] <artscience> however it doesn't boot up without the live cd and even then it just goes to the live cd
[10:06] <kraut> i shall rebuild it, didn't tested that much
[10:07] <Guest73746> cool
[10:08] <puddu> !list
[10:08] <puddu> !addon
[10:09] <artscience> ok here's the message I get when I try to boot ubuntu from the harddrive: "No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key"
[10:09] <Tina-> ppl still use irc to find software 8), how retarded is that lol
[10:09] <bishops1> Om3Ddragon: i rebooted and still no sign of ethernet connection
[10:09] <kraut> nibbler: anyhow i think there is no reason to rebuild is, since everything is fine if the boot has finished...
[10:09] <Grizz_> how do I find the FAQ's please?
[10:09] <indus> artscience: Thats a HDD issue , check if its detected in bis
[10:09] <Kvist> !bot
[10:09] <indus> bios
[10:09] <Gnea> Tina-: it's about as retarded as pointing out how retarded it is
[10:09] <artscience> bis?
[10:10] <artscience> oh bios
[10:10] <artscience> hahaha
[10:10] <Tina-> no doubt about me being retarded
[10:10] <TcN> i need some help
[10:10] <Gnea> wiyh?
[10:10] <artscience> Indus: this is a macbook
[10:10] <TcN> i've just installed ncat by decompressing tarball
[10:10] <Gnea> with?
[10:10] <Daemonis> artscience, i've had that problem before. it's usually fixed when you fix the mbr
[10:10] <TcN> ./configure, make, and sudo make install
[10:10] <indus> artscience: hmm
[10:10] <TcN> but it doesn't work
[10:11] <TcN> any suggest?
[10:11] <Gnea> you're supposed to install ncat from the repo
[10:11] <shinichineko> !flash
[10:11] <ardchoille> !info ncat
[10:11] <artscience> Daemonis: lol I'm not using mbr.., I'm using GUID
[10:11] <albech> can anyone recommend a good sound editor?
[10:11] <ardchoille> Gnea: ^^
[10:11] <TcN> Gnea repo from apt-get ?
[10:11] <Gnea> !find ncat
[10:11] <artscience> albech: audacity
[10:11] <Daemonis> GUID?
[10:11] <Tina-> albech: ardour
[10:11] <remoteCTRL> is ther a way to influence the cpu throttling in ubuntu? like the "desktop", "battery", "presentation", etc power saving schemes in windows?
[10:12] <Gnea> ardchoille: did I say that it was the package name? no.
[10:12] <artscience> ardour is for multi-track recording
[10:12] <Rajasun> albech: Take your pick from apt-cache search sound editor
[10:12] <artscience> not sound editing
[10:12] <ardchoille> Gnea: calm down please, you don't need to prove anything to anyone
[10:12] <Mesdag> I'm having a weird issue with my nvidia/monitor setup using the 185.x drivers. My second monitor is not receiving a signal but it is recognized by nvidia-settings. Anybody knows what is up?
[10:12] <bishops1> i was downloading wicd and as it removed my gnome default wireless program, i was without internet. now the ethernet does not work either.
[10:12] <Gnea> ardchoille: pardon?
[10:12] <bishops1> can someone help?
[10:13] <artscience> Daemonis GUID is the weird hybrid dealio
[10:13] <kr_ubuntu> while adding a group in ldap i am getting an error that "Error adding group "qa" to LDAP
[10:13] <Daemonis> bishops1 there is a way to install a package straight from the ubuntu cd but i wouldn't know about how to go about it
[10:13] <Mesdag> Trying to get Twinview working again after upgrading to Karmic,
[10:13] <kr_ubuntu> what it suppose to mean
[10:13] <Tina-> remoteCTRL: maybe cpufreq-selector is what you want?
[10:13] <nibbler> bishops: sudo dhclient eth0 should bring your network up, and then reinstall network manager?
[10:14] <bishops1> nibbler: thanks will try that
[10:14] <remoteCTRL> Tina-: sounds promising, is that a panel applet ot a graphical app or a cli app?
[10:14] <artscience>  I feel like this should be a quick fix
[10:14] <Tina-> bishops1: wicd should be able to connect to lan too , here it does
[10:14] <Psinetic> why is it that when i use opera browser all images come up fuzzy?
[10:14] <Grizz_> Hi all, I installed the latest system updates today, rebooted nd now Ubuntu will not load
[10:14] <Gnea> odd, I didn't realize ncat was pulled from the repository
[10:14] <Tina-> remoteCTRL: it is a termiunal app but there is a gnome applet too
[10:14] <ardchoille> Gnea: ;)
[10:15]  * Tina- cant type :o
[10:15] <remoteCTRL> Tina-: nice! thanks alot!
[10:15] <Grizz_> I have a screen with the prompt sh :grub>
[10:15] <Grizz_> can anyone tell me what to type now please?
[10:15] <Gnea> that's pretty silly, why take out ncat? oh well, at the rate the developers are gutting it, it's probably just going to go downhill
[10:15] <artscience> Psinetic: I had that problem with opera too...I stopped using it and have gone back to firefox
[10:15] <artscience> anyone ever use "blackbird"
[10:16] <artscience> http://www.blackbirdbrowser.com
[10:16] <Psinetic> artscience, but firefox is giving me some serious problems right now too that i can't isolate or figure out what is causing it.
[10:16] <Gnea> ardchoille: yeah, sorry, didn't realize that they were taking common sense away
[10:16] <Tina-> remoteCTRL: try cpufreq-selector -g ondemand , that will adapt the freq to usage
[10:16] <remoteCTRL> Tina-: ya that is really nice! thanks alot!:)
[10:16] <artscience> Psinetic: well there's always ol' faithful aka ie6 ;)
[10:17] <ardchoille> Gnea: Yeah, the content of the repos can change from time to time. This is why I wanted to become a packager :)
[10:17] <Psinetic> on ubuntu?
[10:17] <Psinetic> screw that
[10:17] <Psinetic> die
[10:17] <Psinetic> lol
[10:17] <FloodBot1> Psinetic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <Psinetic> >_>
[10:17] <artscience> lol
[10:17] <Tina-> ^^
[10:17] <Psinetic> how exactly DO you use "enter" as punctuation?
[10:18] <Kvist> doing
[10:18] <artscience> like you just did
[10:18] <Kvist> this
[10:18] <shinichineko> Well
[10:18] <shinichineko> It's kind of
[10:18] <shinichineko> Complicated.
[10:18] <ardchoille> Please stop
[10:18] <Psinetic> hmmmmmm
[10:18] <artscience> lol
[10:18] <Psinetic> lol
[10:18] <Psinetic> ok ok i get it
[10:18] <bishops2> nibbler: thanks it worked!
[10:19] <nibbler> bishops2, good the hear. welcome
[10:19] <Tina-> i think ppl who type faster then they can think do that
[10:19] <Gnea> !info netcat-traditional
[10:19] <Gnea> TcN: ^^^
[10:19] <CaptainPissweak> Umm... Hi.
[10:19] <macsim> hi, is it possible to manage the limit for shortcut on the Shortcut entry (Applications Shortcut ...) ?
[10:19] <artscience> http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Triple_Boot_via_BootCamp
[10:19] <newtoubuntu2> bhavi still here?
[10:19] <artscience> I've taken a slightly different route then this fellow
[10:20] <Kvist> maybe they think faster than they can type :P
[10:20] <artscience> and it may be a little out of date
[10:20] <Psinetic> Tina-, i often find myself in an oposite situation, i think faster than i can type and end up like...wtc...
[10:20] <bullgard> [Karmic] What is the name of the notification symbol in the  notification area which looks like as a loudspeaker symbol?
[10:20] <CaptainPissweak> I'm about to install Ubuntu for the first time, and I was hoping you people would be able to answer some questions...
[10:20] <rolandweb> Hello to all, does anyone manage to instal Mozilla Thunderbird on Ubuntu 9.10
[10:20] <Grizz_> how do I load the kernel from the prompt sh: grub> please??
[10:20] <ardchoille> rolandweb: It's not in the repos?
[10:21] <ardchoille> !info thunderbird | rolandweb
[10:21] <Gnea> !grub | Grizz_
[10:21] <rolandweb> sorry, Moz Thund 3
[10:21] <naoshige> anybody had problems installing RUBY GEMS on ubuntu?
[10:21] <newtoubuntu2> khensthoth: i decided to get off my ass and took my laptop to the ether plug and was able to find drivers for it. installing now.
[10:21] <tilt> Grizz_: type "kernel (hd0,0)/" and then press <tab>
[10:21] <ardchoille> rolandweb: Ah, ok, you will need to find a ppa
[10:21] <naoshige> ERROR:  While executing gem ... (Gem::GemNotFoundException)
[10:21] <artscience> in the walkthrough on the link I posted he uses LILO to boot into linux
[10:21] <bullgard> !ask | CaptainMorgan
[10:21] <artscience> I've always used grub and don't know anything about lilo but I've heard it's a pain
[10:21] <ardchoille> rolandweb: Try searching here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[10:22] <Tina-> Grizz_: type root (hdx,x) ; kernel /boot/imagelinux root=/dev/sdx ; initrd yourinitrd
[10:22] <Grizz_> ubottu: thanks
[10:22] <ardchoille> that bot is almost human
[10:22] <rolandweb> ardchoille: tx for help
[10:22] <ardchoille> rolandweb: you're welcome
[10:22] <Tina-> !stab ubottu
[10:22] <Gnea> one might think it can read
[10:23] <Tina-> nah it does not bleed
[10:23] <artscience> yeah at what point did it become self-aware?
[10:23] <artscience> and furthermore when is it going to become skynet?
[10:23] <naoshige> apt-get REINSTALL doesn't work?
[10:23] <Grizz_> this has happened after I installed the latest updates - is there a problem with them?
[10:24] <Gnea> we're gonna skip the fake stuff and just go straight to planetnet ;)
[10:24] <naoshige> apt-get uninstall rubygems
[10:24] <naoshige> E: Invalid operation uninstall
[10:24] <naoshige> wtf is that
[10:24] <Gnea> remove
[10:24] <ardchoille> naoshige: Did you use sudo?
[10:24] <naoshige> apt-get deinstall rubygems
[10:24] <jussi01> naoshige: remove
[10:24] <naoshige> E: Invalid operation deinstall
[10:24] <naoshige> damn
[10:24] <naoshige> how am i suppose it is remove
[10:24] <Gnea> !language | naoshige
[10:25] <naoshige> or not delete, or rm etc.
[10:25] <jussi01> naoshige: read the manual page?
[10:25] <ardchoille> naoshige: try remove
[10:25] <Gnea> naoshige: try typing apt-get by itself
[10:25] <naoshige> It would be nice to see y'all put in some aliases
[10:25] <naoshige> so that all of those combinations will work
[10:25] <Gnea> naoshige: it's open source, do it yourself and submit a patch
[10:25] <Gnea> naoshige: that's how it works
[10:25] <ardchoille> naoshige: you can set all the bash aliases  you want
[10:25] <naoshige> yeah that is true
[10:25] <naoshige> thank you my friends
[10:26] <tilt> alias alias=rm
[10:26] <tilt> :))
[10:26] <Gnea> hmmm
[10:27] <artscience> ubottu: I love you
[10:27] <albech> tilt, careful with those kind of ideas even if they are just for fun..
[10:27] <geirha> naoshige: apt-get <tab><tab>
[10:27] <Tina-> tilt: changing ls to rm on someones box can be fun :o
[10:28] <Gnea> Tina-: only if you enjoy welcoming pain and suffering upon yourself :)
[10:28] <tilt> Tina-: sometimes it is the only way to have more diskspace!
[10:30] <artscience> ARGH!
[10:30] <jozefk> ubuntu mailing list, can I send HTML messages there or only plain text?
[10:30] <Kvist> ubottu: Gnome
[10:31] <Flannel> jozefk: plain text is best.
[10:31] <artscience> ubottu: No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key
[10:31] <artscience> worth a try
[10:31] <perith> what resources are there to teach me how to secure my fresh installed ubuntu 9.10? i just updated the basic stuff as well.
[10:32] <jozefk> yeah i like it too but my email didn't go through this morning. now I resent it and everything is alright. strange
[10:32] <shinichineko> Arghhh. Help. I'm trying to update to Flash Player 10 and I can't cd to the right directory, or something else is going wrong with the tar
[10:32] <Kvist> ubottu: sudo
[10:32] <naoshige> Hi
[10:32] <tilt> perith: iptables -A INPUT -j REJECT
[10:32] <ardchoille> perith: I just blogged about that: http://ardchoille42.blogspot.com/2009/12/computer-security-is-process-not.html
[10:32] <macsim> hi, is it possible to manage the shortcut limit on the Application Shorcut System menu ? I means if I add more shortcut with music my docs etc... all the shortcut go in a single entry
[10:32] <tilt> perith: et voilá :)
[10:32] <Tina-> artscience: your grub is br0ke?
[10:32] <naoshige> I just did n "apt-get install rubygems" and it installed an ancient version of rubygems - what do I do?
[10:33] <Gnea> tilt: don't.
[10:33] <perith> tilt: sorry, wha? french?
[10:33] <BadOkami> @tilt alt-f4 2 u .. that will block all inbound traffic
[10:34] <artscience> Tina-: or something like that
[10:34] <Daemonis> "sudo apt-get remove rubygems"? lol
[10:34] <Kvist> ubottu: rubygems
[10:34] <Tina-> artscience: try a livecd and do a grub-install
[10:34] <ardchoille> !ops | tilt giving malicious advice
[10:34] <tilt> .o(I must flee!)
[10:34] <ikonia> tilt: stop now
[10:35] <artscience> Tina-: is there a way to JUST install grub from the live cd? how?
[10:35] <Gnea> tilt: there is no escape
[10:35] <c0p3rn1c> World-writable config file '/etc/mysql/my.cnf' is ignored, it's because I made a network share of /etc/mysql
[10:35] <c0p3rn1c>  I can't seem to undo it :s
[10:35] <artscience> Tina-: bear in mind this is an intrepid 8.10 live cd
[10:35] <Flannel> perith: Don't do that, by the way.
[10:35] <perith> flannel: yea, i got that...
[10:35] <Flannel> perith: Good, good.  Wanted to make sure :)
[10:36] <ardchoille> I should have hit the other trigger too
[10:36] <Tina-> artscience: open terminal enter grup-install , maybe read the man first ;) but grub-install /dev/sdx should be fine
[10:36] <pj> anyone?  it seems like my task bar icons won't group in Karmic anymore, anyone know if there's a setting to get them to group again?
[10:36] <BadOkami> #perith You might want to start with "sudo ufw enable" that will turn on a basic firefall
[10:36] <perith> flannel: ok, i'll do some searches and whatnot to get up to date
[10:36] <naoshige> I just did n "apt-get install rubygems" and it installed an ancient version of rubygems - what do I do?
[10:36] <naoshige> Aren't the apt-get packages up to date?
[10:36] <geirha> naoshige: Are you sure you need the absolute latest version?
[10:36] <naoshige> Yes ofcourse
[10:36] <BadOkami> s/firefall/firewall :-)
[10:36] <perith> badokami: thanks!
[10:37] <furuno> naoshige: not all package is up to date
[10:37] <shinichineko> Help? I followed the instructions for updating flash on the page (from !flash) but I messed up somehow.
[10:37] <Daemonis> have you tried right clicking the little place to the left of the window viewer and going to preferences, pj?
[10:37] <naoshige> the current version doesn't work any longer
[10:37] <furuno> naoshige: maybe try manual install instead
[10:37] <Tina-> naoshige: well then ubuntu is not for you i guess :x
[10:37] <naoshige> yeah
[10:37] <Daemonis> That is, if your talking about the windows grouping
[10:37] <naoshige> I'm using Slicehost, i've been asking them again and again to install FreeBSD
[10:37] <naoshige> but it's just not on the top of their list
[10:37] <pj> Daemonis: that was it, thanks :-)
[10:37] <BadOkami> speaking of ufw, does anyone know why that's not enabled by default?
[10:37] <Rajasun> naoshige: or scour launchpad's ppas
[10:38] <pj> Daemonis: it would seem that the default in Karmic is to not group windows, but in older versions it always grouped them for me.
[10:38] <Gnea> Tina-: is tilted your friend?
[10:38] <geirha> naoshige: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[10:39] <Tina-> Gnea: hu? , i have no friens :o
[10:39] <Tina-> *friends
[10:39] <shinichineko> Is it rude to keep asking for help if no-one responds? I mean, it's a big channel. :s
[10:39] <Kvist> ubottu: Friends
[10:40] <ardchoille> shinichineko: not at all, as long as you don't repeat too often
[10:40] <bdfoster> !patience | shinichineko
[10:40] <Gnea> !repeat
[10:40] <Daemonis> shinichineko are you using 64 bit?
[10:40] <shinichineko> Daemonis: I don't know, how could I tell?
[10:40] <lars_bauer> Hey i have 2 harddisk, but only one off them is mounted at boot time. How do i install the 2. harddisk ?
[10:40] <ardchoille> !fstab | lars_bauer
[10:40] <Tina-> shinichineko: if ppl start saying shut up you reached the limit :p
[10:40] <furuno> shinichineko: use uname -a and read the output
[10:40] <theadmin> wtf. I just had a kernel update, yet I still have just one kernel.
[10:41] <shinichineko> Tina-: So noted.
[10:41] <Daemonis> Well shinichineko if you're talking about flash for firefox, in 32 bit it is very easy to install but its pretty difficult in 64 bit
[10:41] <furuno> lars_bauer: you can mount them manually using nautilus (the file manager), or automatically by editing the /etc/fstab file
[10:41] <shinichineko> I'm just trying to play my games ;_;. furuno: I can't make sense of this.
[10:41] <theadmin> shinichineko: to install it just use the "flashplugin-installer" package
[10:41] <theadmin> shinichineko: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[10:41] <gypsymauro> hi
[10:41] <artscience> Tina-: just to be clear this is only going to install grub to that partition right? I don't want any funny stuff with it attempting to rewrite the partition table
[10:41] <Daemonis> does that work in 64 bit too theadmin?
[10:41] <furuno> shinichineko: open up terminal, and type "uname -a" if there's "i686" in the output then you're on  32 bit
[10:42] <Jimi_Neutral> anyone know how to change thunderbird so that when i reply to a mail my reply goes to the top of the mail not the bottom?
[10:42] <theadmin> Daemonis: Guess so... I never tried
[10:42] <Tina-> Daemonis: is that true? , in gentoo there is a 64bit flash
[10:42] <shinichineko> theadmin: That's an invalid operation. furuno: Ah, I'm 32 bit then.
[10:42] <Tina-> artscience: no it only installs grub
[10:42] <gypsymauro> I'm trying to print with firefox on file (pdf or ps) but it doesn't generates the file... any hint?
[10:42] <ardchoille> Jimi_Neutral: I just configured that, hold on
[10:42] <Kalessin> Hold down SHIFT to display the menu during boot (formerly ESC in GRUB legacy).
[10:42] <Kalessin> well
[10:42] <Jimi_Neutral> ardchoille, nice timing :)
[10:43] <c0p3rn1c> World-writable config file '/etc/mysql/my.cnf' is ignored, it's because I made a network share of /etc/mysql and I can't undo it, any idea how ?
[10:43] <shinichineko> Mainly I want to know; I tried installing from the tar from Adobe's site, and according to !flash I should 'cd install_flash_player_10_linux/'. But that doesn't work. :s
[10:43] <abhilashm86> hi twitter people use twidge, a command line tool for sending tweets having all options.......
[10:43] <abhilashm86> in ubuntu
[10:43] <Daemonis> Tina: I'm pretty new to Ubuntu but I ended up reformatting and going from 32 bit from 64 bit because I had so much trouble installing flash. In 32 bit it was just a few clicks but in 64 bit it just wouldn't work.
[10:43] <macsim> is it possible to manage the limit before this append on ubuntu menu ( the thing in red) http://macsim.labolinux.net/upload/menu.png
[10:43] <theadmin> shinichineko: Well, for me the above command works smoothly. I just tried.
[10:44] <furuno> shinichineko: if you want flash, the easiest way is to type this in your terminal : sudo apt-get install flashlplugin-installer
[10:44] <Tina-> artscience: i have a grub.iso want me to ompload it?
[10:44] <ardchoille> Jimi_Neutral: yeah, ok, open Edit > Account Settings.. go to Composition and Addressing
[10:44] <shinichineko> theadmin and furuno: Ok, I'll try that again.
[10:44] <ardchoille> Jimi_Neutral: First drop-down menu under "Composition"
[10:44] <Tina-> it only is 700kB
[10:44] <furuno> shinichineko: I mean : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[10:44] <shinichineko> Oh, oops - I copied the typo. :p
[10:44] <naoshige> geirha: it says
[10:45] <shinichineko> ...couldn't find package.
[10:45] <naoshige> as of july 27, 2009, rubygems 1.3.1 is installed via apt
[10:45] <Rajasun> theadmin: if all you had before was just the 2.6.31 kernel. This should be it. The upgrade was just a minor one. i.e. from 2.6.31-16.52 to 2.6.31-16.53
[10:45] <naoshige> but my version is 0.9.4
[10:45] <shinichineko> This is where everyone tells me to upgrade and I whine because I haven't got a good way to backup my files. Bah.
[10:45] <Jimi_Neutral> ardchoille, excellent, thanks dude
[10:45] <Tina-> Omploaded '/home/tina/grub.iso' to http://omploader.org/vMnlsbQ
[10:45] <geirha> naoshige: What ubuntu release are you running?
[10:45] <Kvist> ubottu: conduct
[10:45] <theadmin> shinichineko: Are you on Karmic, at least?
[10:45] <bullgard> [Karmic] What is the name of the notification symbol in the  notification area which looks like as a loudspeaker symbol?
[10:45] <ardchoille> Jimi_Neutral: You're welcome :)
[10:45] <naoshige> hold up
[10:45] <shinichineko> theadmin: Er, uh, well. No. Dapper Drake.
[10:45] <naoshige> geirha: Ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS (hardy)
[10:45] <Tina-> artscience: burn it and boot it and us the command line from grub to boot up your linux
[10:45] <furuno> shinichineko: try : "sudo apt-get update" before hand
[10:46] <theadmin> shinichineko: Oh, makes sense, most likely package is not there.
[10:46] <furuno> shinichineko: whoa that's ancient
[10:46] <shinichineko> Yeah, I was trying to get around that
[10:46] <furuno> shinichineko: how about the package "flashplugin-nonfree" ?
[10:46] <shinichineko> Well, Flash 9 worked, but not for the specific niggling thing I wanted.
[10:46] <ardchoille> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[10:46] <artscience> Tina-: everytime?
[10:46] <Kvist> ubottu: ping
[10:46] <naoshige> geirha: is that good or?
[10:47] <Daemonis> shinichineko: believe me if you went to 32 bit you would have no problem getting it, lol
[10:47] <shinichineko> I figured.
[10:47] <Tina-> artscience: no after you are in your ubuntu reinstall grub-pc and update-grub ;)
[10:47] <ardchoille> furuno: it's transitional, I think you need flashplugin-installer now
[10:47] <furuno> shinichineko: niggling?
[10:47] <ucenik07> fdjfg
[10:47] <ucenik07> lakdjkgj
[10:47] <ucenik07> hi
[10:47] <shinichineko> furuno: I believe it means 'small' with connotations of insignificance.
[10:48] <naoshige> Hello. I'm on
[10:48] <geirha> naoshige: That comment applies for 9.04. The wiki-page explains how to install 1.3.1 manually on 8.04
[10:48] <furuno> shinichineko: i see, i tought that was a jargon for an effect or so :D
[10:48] <naoshige> err
[10:48] <artscience> Tina-: do you know what I'm doing here? do you know my 'special' circumstances?
[10:48] <Tina-> artscience: use the tab key in the grub command line to autocomplet/find the kernel names etc...
[10:48] <shinichineko> furuno: Nah, I'm not good enough to know any jargon. :p
[10:48] <shinichineko> !upgrade
[10:48] <naoshige> geirha: I don't understand what you mean
[10:48] <Tina-> artscience: no i have no glass ball :p
[10:49] <artscience> Tina-: I'm using a GUID partition table on a macbook
[10:49] <naoshige> The wiki says rubygems 1.3.1 is available via apt but I'm getting 0.9.4
[10:49] <naoshige> Should I be running a more recent version of Ubuntu that perhaps uses a different package repository?
[10:49] <geirha> naoshige: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails#RubyGems%201.3.1%20Ubuntu%208.04
[10:49] <artscience> Tina-: I have already installed macosx and winxp with boot camp
[10:49] <shinichineko> So, can I ask this then; if I update my Ubuntu version, do I need to backup my files?
[10:49] <furuno> naoshige: try install the package "rubygems1.9.1" instead
[10:50] <Tina-> aw i dont know boot camp srry
[10:50] <shinichineko> (I'm aware that I -should- at any rate, but it'd be a rather large production'
[10:50] <furuno> naoshige: or 1.8
[10:50] <geirha> naoshige: Newer releases has newer versions, yes. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=rubygems&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[10:50]  * Tina- to poor for a mac :o
[10:50] <artscience> Tina-: I used ipartition to resize and create free space for ubuntu
[10:50] <artscience> Tina-: I got it second-hand at a discount ;)
[10:51] <naoshige> Is karmic a safe choice?
[10:51] <naoshige> if im running a production server
[10:51] <Tina-> artscience: and you installed it but cant boot ?
[10:51] <naoshige> production as in hosting real sites etc.
[10:51] <furuno> naoshige: hmm, I love 9.04 much better... altought now I'm on karmic (linux mint 8)
[10:51] <geirha> naoshige: You should stick to LTS for production
[10:51] <artscience> Tina-: I successfully installed ubuntu and it is recognized by rEFIt and the boot loader should be installed to the partition
[10:51] <naoshige> ah ok
[10:51] <naoshige> thanks geirha
[10:52] <naoshige> and furuno
[10:52] <furuno> naoshige: LTS should be better tought...
[10:52] <Tina-> artscience: maybe install grub to none MBR and make a line in bootcamp to load the grub
[10:52] <artscience> Tina-: which bringsme to the problem I have now
[10:52] <geirha> naoshige: Next LTS will be coming in about 4 months. You can then upgrade directly to that.
[10:52] <shinichineko> Ok, well, I think I'm going to have to upgrade. Thanks for the help furuno, theadmin, Tina-, Daemonis, and anyone else I lost in the text scroll.
[10:52] <Daemonis> What version will the LTS be?
[10:52] <Rajasun> yeah flashplugin-nonfree is a transitional dummy package that can be removed once you have its replacement flashplugin-installer insatlled. I always make it a habit to do both dpkg -l|grep transit and dpkg -l|grep dummy every month or so to purge the system of these cruft. But be warned not every dummy, transitional package can be purged. As to why, maybe the package maintainers to these packages in question are in a better position to p
[10:52] <Rajasun> rovide an answer. ;)
[10:52] <furuno> Daemonis: current: 8.04 LTS
[10:53] <furuno> Daemonis: upcoming: 11.04 LTS
[10:53] <Daemonis> Oh. Neat.
[10:53] <Tina-> quassel ftw , unlimited scroll :)
[10:53] <geirha> Make that 10.04 :P
[10:53] <disappearedng> Hey if I create a ssh account for my friend, what can he access by default
[10:53] <furuno> geirha: ah :D
[10:53] <artscience> Tina-: "making a line" in bootcamp is out of the question it's waaaayyy to user-friendly to the point where it won't even let me make multiple partitions for mac or windows
[10:54] <artscience> Tina-: that's what the ipartition is for;)
[10:54] <Tina-> artscience: :(
[10:54] <artscience> ;)
[10:54] <Tina-> :)
[10:54] <furuno> iDon'tKnow
[10:54] <Tina-> bbl all
[10:55] <artscience> I can access the installed partition from live
[10:55] <artscience> isn't there something I can check or do there?
[10:56] <furuno> hmm I wonder if there's a dual-monitor utilitiy app like UltraMon?
[10:57] <furuno> ...
[10:58] <enoyhs> Hello!
[10:58] <artscience> well device.map seems like it's missing a few things
[10:58] <Guest47922> hi
[10:58] <artscience> shouldn't it list the partitions?
[10:59] <artscience> or just the physical drives?
[11:01] <sylock> hello
[11:01] <sylock> is it possible to do push mail with novell evolution mail client? (IDLE command)
[11:01] <enoyhs> Can someone please help me with Live CD customization?
[11:02] <radoe> /hide-boring
[11:02] <lars_bauer> How do i install a harddisc. How do i find and for it ?
[11:02] <Flannel> enoyhs: Have you seen this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[11:02] <lars_bauer> How do i install a harddisc. How do i find and format it ?
[11:03] <furuno> lars_bauer: huh? do you want to format a hard disk?
[11:03] <mike9494> yes lars_bauer tell us what you're trying to do
[11:04] <enoyhs> Flannel: Yeah... I ahve another problem
[11:04] <kr_ubuntu> when i trying to execute "sudo auth-client-config -a -p lac_ldap" i am getting this error:Error in updating the file: 'pam_account' not found
[11:04] <kr_ubuntu> what is the problem here?
[11:04] <enoyhs> I need to automatically make a folder on Deskop once I login in LiveCD
[11:05] <enoyhs> Where could I do that?
[11:05] <lars_bauer> i have ubunt on at pc with two hardisc. I can only see one of them. Only one was setup at installation off ubuntu.
[11:05] <furuno> enoyhs: I don't think you can do that with LiveCD
[11:05] <furuno> enoyhs: you cannot change the content/configuration
[11:05] <futurama> who can help me about effect..?
[11:05] <furuno> enoyhs: unless you remaster it :D
[11:05] <futurama> in ubuntu 9.04..?
[11:05] <furuno> !ask | futurama
[11:05] <MenZa> lars_bauer: Could you join me in #ubuntu-dk? It looks like you may have some language barriers. I can help you in Danish there.
[11:06] <lars_bauer> i try to add the second harddisc to my filesystem so it is visibel after boot.
[11:06] <enoyhs> Hm... Maybe there is some way to make a script that creates a folder after login
[11:06] <furuno> lars_bauer: you can install "pysdm" for this
[11:07] <furuno> enoyhs: yes of course, but not on the live cd, I believe
[11:07] <enoyhs> How is Example folder created on Deskop? Maybe I can edit that script...
[11:07] <isolat3dsh33p> enoyhs: you mean automatically mount drives?
[11:07] <enoyhs> no, no
[11:07] <MenZa> enoyhs: Creating a script run on login would be easy. I'm just curious why you'd want a script like that.
[11:07] <furuno> enoyhs: you mean, you want to remaster the cd?
[11:07] <enoyhs> I have a homework assigment and my task is to customize LiveCD
[11:07] <furuno> enoyhs: oh I see
[11:07] <MenZa> lars_bauer: Could you /join #ubuntu-dk ? :)
[11:08] <jrib> !remaster | enoyhs
[11:08] <dragonfist> Help me installing Ubuntu Studio. It fails when configuring ttf-mscorefonts-installer.
[11:08] <furuno> enoyhs: Arch Linux with larch might be better for this :D
[11:08] <rumpsy> what for ubuntu-dk channel
[11:08] <rumpsy> let him here itself
[11:08] <futurama> sorry. how can i make effect like fire when close browser..?
[11:08] <enoyhs> I needed to have some packages installed and stuff like. That was easy (Used uck), But creating folder on Deskop...
[11:08] <rumpsy> use beryl
[11:08] <furuno> futurama: do you have compiz-config settings manage rinstalled?
[11:09] <MenZa> rumpsy: I'm interested in helping him in the #ubuntu-dk channel. It seems he has a problem with the da-en language barrier, and I don't want to upset this channel by contributing in Danish.
[11:09] <rumpsy> or use compiz
[11:09] <rumpsy> okay..
[11:09] <radoe> /hide-boring
[11:09] <futurama> i have compiz, but look like it not use
[11:09] <furuno> futurama: have you installed the video driver?
[11:09] <enoyhs> ubottu: Already read first two links... Now looking into last one..
[11:10] <rumpsy> use appropriate video driver
[11:10] <futurama> how to install video driver..?
[11:10] <jayne> where does ubuntu set filehandle limits for non-root users? There's nothing in /etc/security/limits.conf.
[11:10] <furuno> futurama: what video card do you have?
[11:11] <futurama> i dont know, but i use Compaq CQ40..
[11:11] <enoyhs> MenZa: Where could I create script to run on login?
[11:11] <MenZa> enoyhs: /etc/profile.d/ I guess
[11:11] <furuno> futurama: hold on a sec...
[11:11] <MenZa> enoyhs: That'd run every login, though.
[11:12] <enoyhs> Oh.. profile.d
[11:12] <lars_bauer> ill try pysdm :)
[11:12] <enoyhs> I put it inside init.d
[11:12] <enoyhs> Ok I will try that
[11:13] <enoyhs> thanks :)
[11:13] <furuno> futurama: hmm it seems that you have an Intel GMA 4500MHD
[11:13] <Kartagis> what's the next version called?
[11:14] <ardchoille> Kartagis: Lucid Lynx
[11:14] <Kartagis> !karmic
[11:14] <Rajasun> Kartagis: Lucid
[11:14] <Kartagis> !lucid
[11:14] <puddu> file:///home/puddu/.xchat2/GlobalFind.mrc
[11:14] <futurama> now, what i must do..?
[11:14] <puddu> load file:///home/puddu/.xchat2/GlobalFind.mrc
[11:14] <furuno> futurama: can you enable desktop effects? Intel driver should be already bundled...
[11:15] <Vagrant> Hi guys. I've installed gnome-do and it works about 30 % of the time no problem. The other 70% on startup it doesn't work (it pops up but doesn't recognize the program I'm looking for) and uses up 100% of both processors. I normally just kill it and restart it but does anyone know easier ways?)
[11:15] <Rajasun> puddu: what are you trying to do?
[11:15] <futurama> u mean extra in dekstop effect  ..?
[11:15] <ardchoille> Rajasun: looks like he's tring to run a script in xcha
[11:15] <ardchoille> t
[11:15] <furuno> futurama: yes
[11:15] <Rajasun> archoille: ah heh ;)
[11:15] <futurama> i can select it..
[11:16] <lars_bauer> pysdm ? what i do in pysdm have no effect ?
[11:16] <furuno> futurama: if you can, then you need to install the "compiz config settings manager", to do this, open up terminal, and type in : "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[11:17] <furuno> lars_bauer: with pysdm, you can configure you're hard disk mounting option without the need to modify /etc/fstab manually
[11:17] <researcher1> please guide me to boot .GRUB seems to have error but I have source CD
[11:18] <theom3ga> hi, I have just installed Ubuntu 9.10 in a computer. I needed to boot the live cd using noapic nolapic acpi=off. Now that it's installed, it doesnt boot, because it hasn't got those options in the grub. I'm trying to modify the grub cfg file from the live cd but it says that the file is read only
[11:19] <lars_bauer> furuno, should i reboot ? i have stated that it is ext3. Is formating in ext3 performed when i boot ?
[11:20] <lars_bauer> furuno, i found the disc now :-)
[11:20] <jhaley> Thanks to MS trying to undercut the competition it's cheaper to buy a netbook with XP and then install ubuntu on it than to buy with ubuntu pre-installed
[11:22] <psycho_oreos> because MS is greedy, case closed
[11:23] <frogzoo> well testing linux drivers is more expensive per seat
[11:23] <Daifan> on that topic, i have a problem with my sound driver, can someone help me?
[11:24] <jhaley> i had a sound driver problem..after trying a bunch of stuff I just did a fresh install
[11:25] <Daifan> this is a fresh install
[11:25] <psycho_oreos> probably a pulse daemon related issue
[11:25] <Daifan> except i dont have the desktop version
[11:26] <Daifan> i installed the "gnome for starter"
[11:26] <Daifan> and it is limited in packages
[11:27] <lcb> hii see this issue from several users but no conclusive answers. my usb keyboard and mouse are suddently having erratic behavior, not responding or too slow on keys and moves. i have no wireless devices connected or active at all, at this point. i'm writing this on console and pasting it here because on regular graphics i can't do it du to the problem. any suggestions to solve are appreciated.
[11:28] <lcb> 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:28] <researcher1> when I run the command fdisk -l no partition information is displayed. How do I go ahead in correcting GRUB?
[11:28] <ays> Daifan, if you download 9.10 desktop version and boot it first as a liveCD, you should be able to see if your SC is working properly and then do the complete, hdd install .. at least, imho
[11:28] <jrib> researcher1: try with sudo
[11:28] <researcher1> ok.jrib
[11:28] <ays> sudo fdisk -l
[11:28] <Daifan> I'm able to load alsa
[11:28] <ays> ah... jrib was faster :))
[11:28] <researcher1> thanks.it works
[11:28] <Daifan> and correctly identify my sound card
[11:29] <Daifan> but after that, i dont know how to get the package for the sound card...
[11:29] <RaJiL> hi
[11:29] <RaJiL> how increment screen resolution in ubuntu 9.10..
[11:30] <ays> Daifan, is it onboard audio or external? if its onboard, whats your motherboard?
[11:30] <researcher1> what does this mean? /dev/sda1   *           1        1344    10795648+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:30] <RaJiL> i have ati propietary driver
[11:30] <furuno> RaJiL: System > Preference > Display
[11:30] <Daifan> it is onboard, asus
[11:30] <furuno> RaJiL: make sure you have installed the driver correctly
[11:30] <jhaley> even amazon.com lists hp mini's with linux higher priced than windows. Hopefully their version of ubuntu will still work when i install it.
[11:30] <Daifan> my sound package should be snd-via82xx
[11:30] <RaJiL> furuno,  yes
[11:31] <RaJiL> compiz works
[11:31] <ays> researcher1, it means that you have boot partion on the hd0 or if you check in your bios that would be the primary first boot partion/hard disk
[11:31] <furuno> RaJiL: well driver should be all good then
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> researcher1,  the first partition on the first  detected storage device, bootable with 10+GB?
[11:31] <researcher1> thanks
[11:31] <RaJiL> but i have 1024x768
[11:31] <RaJiL> how max resolution
[11:32] <furuno> RaJiL: hmm, try typing "fglrxinfo" in the terminal and paste the result with the pastebin
[11:33] <RaJiL> furuno, http://paste.ubuntu.com/338619/
[11:34] <furuno> RaJiL: odd, what's you're monitor max res by the way? is there's no option in the display preference?
[11:34] <RaJiL> 1280x1024 is the max
[11:34] <furuno> RaJiL: that card make me remembers my old day :D
[11:35] <furuno> RaJiL: no option for 1280x1024?
[11:35] <RaJiL> no
[11:35] <furuno> RaJiL: how about from catalyst control center?
[11:36] <RaJiL> is the same, the mas is 1024x768
[11:36] <lcb> hi. i see this issue from several users but no conclusive answers. my usb keyboard and mouse are stridently having erratic behavior, not responding or too slow on keys and moves. i have no wireless devices connected or active at all, at this point. i'm writing this on console and pasting it here because on regular graphics i can't do it due to the problem. any suggestions to solve it are appreciated.
[11:36] <researcher1> But I saw these lines which confused me.  /dev/sda2  1345  30401  233400352+   5  Extended     /dev/sda5   1345   2013    5373711   83  Linux  /dev/sda6   29650  30401  6040408+  82  Linux swap / Solaris     /dev/sda7   2014   14171   97659103+  83  Linux  Partition table entries are not in disk order.Im trying to correct my grub with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows. Anything better than this?
[11:37] <enrique> hello. doing ssh user@server would not search the id_dsa that's in .ssh, I must specify -i to make it work...
[11:37] <Mendocino> allah akhbar brothaz
[11:37] <naoshige> allahu akbar
[11:37] <Mendocino> Insallah!
[11:37] <naoshige> god is great
[11:37] <MenZa> !offtopic
[11:37] <naoshige> love is great
[11:38] <Mendocino> ubuttu: please turn switch off now!
[11:38] <bazhang> Mendocino, please take chat elsewhere
[11:38] <Mendocino> ahh my good friend, bazhang bruder:D
[11:39] <Mendocino> hello sweetie:D
[11:39] <MenZa> Mendocino: Please stop.
[11:39] <RaJiL> furuno,  i exec , sudo amdcccle and see the same options for resolution
[11:41] <epinky> RaJiL: have you tried with envy?
[11:41] <RaJiL> epinky,  no
[11:41] <RaJiL> try?
[11:41] <Mendocino> MenZa brotha?
[11:41] <epinky> RaJiL: sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk envyng-core , if you want :)
[11:42] <MenZa> !envy | epinky
[11:42] <RaJiL> ok, thx
[11:42] <bazhang> Mendocino, if you don't remain on topic, you will be removed.
[11:42] <disappearedng__> Hey software sources's select best download server uses which ports? This keeps crashing my router, what do I do?
[11:42] <furuno> RaJiL: by following this guide at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide everything should be all good tought, always work for my HD 2400, 3650, 4350 and 4850
[11:42] <Mendocino> wtfm topic? how about ya?
[11:42] <anonmatir> he does not even know english
[11:42] <rahat_> hello everyone
[11:43] <furuno> anonmatir: what's english :D ?
[11:43] <furuno> !hi | rahat_
[11:43] <disappearedng> anyway anyone here knows what I mean?
[11:43] <bananasfordinner> hi
[11:43] <anonmatir> disappearedng: u r a adv bot from ghostPC
[11:43] <furuno> !hi | bananasfordinner
[11:44] <anonmatir> furuno: was reffering to that freek .. never mind
[11:44] <RaJiL> furuno,  thx
[11:44] <disappearedng> anonmatir? what?
[11:44] <furuno> I prefer mangoes tought ;)
[11:44] <bananasfordinner> I have a question: how to I get cupsd to launch on boot?
[11:44] <Mendocino> Holy Djihad started against the Hell of FuckBuntu:D
[11:44] <bananasfordinner> I have to sudo cupsd each time I restart the computer
[11:44] <bananasfordinner> One obvious workaround I can think of is just to gksudo cupsd to the user startup
[11:44] <furuno> bananasfordinner: Go to System > Pref > Startup Application and add it there
[11:44] <bananasfordinner> but that seems illogical.
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> @furuno:
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> I tried that, but the best I can do
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> is gksudo it
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> I don't want to have to type in a password
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> on each login to get my printer going, know what I mean?
[11:45] <bananasfordinner> In most peoples' installation cups launches automatically, right?
[11:46] <bananasfordinner> It doesn't make sense to me if I have to gksudo add it to the startup because my password is longer than typing sudo cupsd
[11:46] <bazhang> bananasfordinner, please put all on one line, it is hard to read when you use the enter key so much
[11:48] <bananasfordinner> Sorry about that. I'm paranoid about getting cut off by maxlength of message. Anyway: my problem is that cups is not launching on boot. Some things I've tried are to stick "gksudo cupsd" in the user startup, but that just seems like a dumb idea because i shouldn't have to type in a password every time I want to start up my printers.
[11:49] <erUSUL> bananasfordinner: try « sudo update-rc.d cups defaults »
[11:50] <Autie> has the ubuntu kernel his own patches?
[11:50] <bananasfordinner> ok just did
[11:50] <bananasfordinner> let me see if it works on restart.
[11:50] <bananasfordinner> Thanks!
[11:51] <researcher1> Im running LIVECD. How can I use root privileges? When I gave the command this is what happened ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/sda1 /media/root mount: only root can do that
[11:52] <Autie> researcher1: sudo
[11:52] <researcher1> ok
[11:52] <furuno> researcher1: add sudo
[11:52] <nperry> researcher1: sudo mount
[11:52] <bananasfordinner> I was unsuccessful
[11:52] <nperry> researcher1: Shouldnt ask for a password
[11:52] <researcher1> ok.
[11:53] <researcher1> nperry,furuno.Im doing it
[11:53] <nperry> researcher1: It always might complain if theres not a /mount/root :D
[11:53] <researcher1> ok
[11:54] <nperry> t/always/also
[11:55] <lividium> my laptop battery is not being recognized by ubuntu, is there anything  can do to troubleshoot/fix this problem?
[11:55] <nperry> lividium: What laptop do you have ?
[11:56] <lividium> I have a gateway
[11:56] <nperry> lividium: Model?
[11:56] <om26er> lividium: full name with model number
[11:56] <bullgard> [Karmic] What is the name of the notification symbol in the  notification area which looks like as an electric loudspeaker circuit symbol?
[11:56] <bananasfordinner> Hi guys, the reseting of my rc didn't do the trick in making cups start on default. The message I got was:
[11:56] <bananasfordinner> update-rc.d: warning: cups stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1)
[11:56] <bananasfordinner>  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/cups already exist.
[11:57] <furuno> bullgard: the volume control applet?
[11:57] <nperry> bullgard: Volume :s
[11:57] <lividium> it is a gateway lt3103u
[11:57] <nperry> lividium: Two minutes
[11:58] <furuno> nperry: make it three so I can make a cup noodle :D
[11:59] <nperry> lividium: Whats actually happening, are you having to run on power all the time - or doesnt it display the battery life?
[11:59] <bananasfordinner> So I'm still having trouble getting cups to run on boot. I've tried to run << sudo update-rc.d cups defaults >> but it says that the runlevel arguments ( 0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1) and that the links already exist
[11:59] <rahat_> Is there any Internet messenger exists on which I can use my webcam (compatible with YIM and MSN)?
[11:59] <lividium> I am having to run on AC all the time
[11:59] <bullgard> furuno, nperry Perhaps my question was not clear enough. I meant: "[Karmic] What is the file name of the notification symbol in the notification area which looks like as an electric loudspeaker circuit symbol?
[12:00] <furuno> rahat_: Empathy?
[12:00] <nperry> lividium: What happens when you take the ac out?
[12:00] <lividium> the laptop abruptly turns off
[12:01] <researcher1> my UBUNTU 9.10 64 bit failed to boot after I installed & ran remastersys. Is this the right doc for me to restore GRUB with? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:01] <lcb> how can i force x.org recognizing and mapping keyboard and mouse again?
[12:02] <nperry> lividium: Are you on a different machine now?
[12:02] <furuno> bullgard: gnome-volume-control-applet
[12:02] <researcher1> anybody knows a better tutorial for me? my UBUNTU 9.10 64 bit failed to boot after I installed & ran remastersys
[12:02] <bananasfordinner> So I'm still having trouble getting cups to run on boot. I've tried to run << sudo update-rc.d cups defaults >> but it says that the runlevel arguments ( 0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1) and that the links already exist
[12:03] <lividium> no, I am on the same laptop
[12:03] <bullgard> furuno: No, it is not. gnome-volume-contro-applet is an executable file (and a .desktop file) but no picture file.
[12:03] <furuno> bullgard: oh you mean the icons?
[12:04] <furuno> bullgard: wait a minute
[12:04] <bullgard> furuno: Yes, I mean an icon.
[12:04] <nperry> lividium: Boot into bios and see if there is AMD PowerNow disabled, if it is enable it.
[12:04] <chrisw> Hi all, we're on LTS, but the version of MySQL in hardy has bugs that we need fixing, what's the recommended way of getting a newer version in the 5.1 series?
[12:04] <chrisw> er, 5.0 series..
[12:05] <furuno> bullgard: do you want the location or only the filename? or do you want the icon itself?
[12:05] <MenZa> chrisw: Humm, the recommended way is to not upgrade, but I would probably build mysql myself if I were you
[12:05] <MenZa> chrisw: Do note that that might give you issues when upgrading to 10.04 in April.
[12:06] <furuno> bullgard: the icons should be in /usr/share/icons/<theme name>
[12:06] <MenZa> chrisw: (Hence the thou-shalt-not-upgrade-from-other-places-than-the-repositories)
[12:06] <jpds> chrisw: Upgrade is the supported way, if you need a newer vesion of something, upgrade.
[12:06] <furuno> bullgard: usually called audio-volulme-xxx.png
[12:06] <racle> When i boot my machnine, boot logo show, and then when it try to load kde, it goes black screen with X-mouse. Any ideas why it do that?
[12:06] <jpds> Compiling stuff from source → not so supported.
[12:06] <furuno> bullgard: in the status category
[12:07] <researcher1> can i repeat a question here?
[12:07] <MenZa> chrisw: What jpds said.
[12:07] <racle> and i have regonfigured my xorg with that tool, and when i do that, it boot normally one time
[12:07] <ardchoille> researcher1: yes, just not too often
[12:07] <chrisw> jpds: what do you mean by "upgrade"?
[12:07] <researcher1> ok
[12:07] <chrisw> hard backports? something else?
[12:07] <researcher1> my UBUNTU 9.10 64 bit failed to boot after I installed & ran remastersys. Is this the right doc for me to restore GRUB with? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:07] <chrisw> hard -> hardy
[12:07] <lividium> kk, be back in a sec
[12:07] <nperry> chrisw: do-release-upgrade -d
[12:07] <chrisw> nperry: what does that do?
[12:07] <jpds> chrisw: Upgrade to an Ubuntu release which has the version you need.
[12:08] <chrisw> hmm, don't want to move off LTS
[12:08] <chrisw> it's only mysql I want to upgrade, because of a specific bug
[12:08] <nperry> chrisw: The only supported way is to do that or wait till 10.04
[12:08] <MenZa> chrisw: You /could/ attempt to just... upgrade from newer packages (for later dists), but it's not something I'd recommend.
[12:09] <bananasfordinner> So I'm still having trouble getting cups to run on boot. I've tried to run << sudo update-rc.d cups defaults >> but it says that the runlevel arguments ( 0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1) and that the links already exist
[12:09] <MenZa> chrisw: First, you might run into dependency hell, and second, it's not supported.
[12:09] <bullgard> furuno: If you could tell me just the filename, I would be happy and could find out its complete path myself.
[12:09] <chrisw> hmm, so, source install would be the way to go, right?
[12:10] <chrisw> or use MySQL's provided binaries?
[12:10] <jrib> bananasfordinner: ubuntu version?
[12:10] <bananasfordinner> karmic
[12:10] <MenZa> chrisw: I think it might be better to use later Ubuntu binaries.
[12:10] <nperry> chrisw: hardy has 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5 mysql-server
[12:10] <jrib> bananasfordinner: how are you sure it should be starting that way instead of with upstart directly?
[12:11] <MenZa> !info mysql-server
[12:11] <bullgard> furuno: I do not understand your message: "in the status category".
[12:11] <ardchoille> chrisw: either way you may run into dependency problems. fwiw, Jaunty is quite nice and newer than what you have.
[12:11] <furuno> bullgard: well, "audio-volume-high.png"
[12:11] <chrisw> MenZa: but you just told me I couldn't do that...
[12:11] <MenZa> chrisw: you *might* have issues with it.
[12:11] <bananasfordinner> jrib: right now, cups starts fine if I just type "sudo cupsd"
[12:11] <MenZa> chrisw: The thing is, if you install Ubuntu packages, at least you'll have distro-specific paths and such
[12:11] <furuno> bullgard: it's in /usr/share/icons/tango/32x32/status/
[12:11] <jrib> bananasfordinner: not my question
[12:11] <furuno> bullgard: depend on your them tought...
[12:11] <daffies> Hi, Can anybody tell me what if there is a concurrent user limit on Ubuntu 9.04?  i use this ubuntu machine as a file server.
[12:11] <bananasfordinner> jrib: please rephrase?
[12:11] <furuno> bullgard: theme*
[12:11] <chrisw> MenZa: and what does that buy me?
[12:11] <ardchoille> chrisw: Do not mix release packages, that will most likely cause problems.
[12:11] <jrib> bananasfordinner: why are you running update-rc.d?
[12:11] <mesdag> weird second monitor isn't working in twinview with the 185.x nvidia drivers but with 173.x it does...
[12:12] <MenZa> chrisw: A better change of upgrading to 10.04 in April.
[12:12] <bananasfordinner> jrib: somebody told me to. My problem is that cups isn't running on boot when it should be.
[12:12]  * chrisw wonders what the poitn of LTS is *grump*
[12:12] <ardchoille> chrisw: support for 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server
[12:12] <DanielV> Hi guys. Anybody who could help me with a chmod problem? :)
[12:12] <MenZa> chrisw: Eventually, if you don't want to upgrade from 8.04 (which is reasonable), you're looking at purely unsupported methods.
[12:12] <DanielV> I have a folder belonging to usera. userb needs writeaccess to this directory, so I add him in usera's group, and chmods the dir to 775. Still, no write-access for userb. What am I doing wrong?
[12:13] <furuno> chrisw: and longer names :D
[12:13] <MenZa> chrisw: You get security updates for much longer.
[12:13] <chrisw> ardchoille: and what deos that mean? what use is supprot if it doesn't fix bugs?
[12:14] <epinky> chrisw: someone has reported succesful compile on backports here https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/403562/
[12:14] <MenZa> chrisw: Security-based problems are fixed.
[12:14] <nperry> chrisw: LTS is support for secruity updates. Most stable updates, you wouldnt like it if they chucked 5.1 in and it broke your server :)
[12:14] <mazda01> my / filled up. i keep getting failed kernel update installs. now /tmp is full of folders named /tmp/mkinitramfs_********, can I remove these?
[12:14] <chrisw> MenZa: *shrugs* that doesn't help *me* ;-)
[12:14] <ardchoille> chrisw: support means bug fixes and security updates.The Ubuntu packagers don't have any responsibility to fix upstream sources.
[12:14] <chrisw> nperry: yeah, I'm nto after 5.1, I'm after bugfixes to replication in 5.0
[12:15] <bananasfordinner> jribd: any ideas ?
[12:15] <ardchoille> chrisw: talk to the mysql folks, tell them to fix things so the ubuntu packagers can package the fixes
[12:15] <rumpsy> Bye
[12:15] <rumpsy> Ya i did..
[12:15] <nperry> !bye | rumpsy
[12:15] <chrisw> ardchoille: they've fixed the probelms already, in 5.0.60
[12:16] <mgv1> mgv1> what are good channels on teamspeak?
[12:16] <mgv1> IM in ubuntu is bad
[12:16] <ardchoille> chrisw: Ah, ok
[12:16] <mgv1> how can i make xhat to not switch between channels when each is loaded???????
[12:16] <nperry> chrisw: Build from source is the only way, its not recommended though.
[12:16] <chrisw> ardchoille: which is why I want to know how to upgrade mysql on a pair of LTS servers from 5.0.51 to something-later-than-5.0.60...
[12:17] <petski> Hi, I wanted to create a backup of some partitions on my hard disk. The external disk, on which I want to create the backup, is formatted as FAT32 (so doesn't support files to be larger than 4 GB). Therefor i used something like 'dd if=/dev/sda6 | split -d -b 2000m - /mnt/external/image' to split it up. Now I would like to mount those splitted images as one image, without needing to concat the image somewhere (don't have storage for that). I looked at 'af
[12:17] <petski> flib', but 'affuse' doesn't support this feature. Anywhere else I can look?
[12:17] <bullgard> furuno: It's /usr/share/icons/Human/16x16/status/audio-volume-hig.png with me.  --  Thank you very much for your enduring help.
[12:17] <Kartagis> I have a question/problem with gftp. when I hit ctrl+r nothing happens but when I select ctrl+r from the menu, transfer begins. any ideas?
[12:17] <jrib> bananasfordinner: patience
[12:17] <ardchoille> chrisw: The best way I know of is to move from your LTS to something later, but then you're no longer on an LTS
[12:18] <furuno> bullgard: np ;)
[12:18] <bananasfordinner> jrib: ok :)
[12:18] <ardchoille> chrisw: Can you stick it out until April? The next LTS release should be out then.
[12:18] <jrib> bananasfordinner: pastebin: find /etc/rc* -iname '*cups*'
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> /etc/rc1.d/K80cups
[12:19] <th3_b0b> hi! I'm running karmic. How can I prevent Gnome from showing file previews on the desktop?
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> /etc/rc2.d/S50cups
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> /etc/rc3.d/S50cups
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> /etc/rc4.d/S50cups
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> /etc/rc5.d/S50cups
[12:19] <jrib> bananasfordinner: pastebin, not here
[12:19] <FloodBot2> bananasfordinner: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <jrib> bananasfordinner: how have you determined it's not starting?
[12:19] <bananasfordinner> http://paste.ubuntu.com/338635/
[12:20] <t0mppa> What are some common options for getting a kernel to load properly from GRUB command line? I have a fresh 9.10 install into which I cannot boot and I'm not getting any error messages that would tell me what's wrong.
[12:20] <mgv1> there is a program that allows to make lyrics of songs appear?
[12:20] <bananasfordinner> jrib: it isn't starting because when I try to configure printers and I click troubleshoot it says "cups is not running"
[12:20] <ardchoille> th3_b0b: Nautilus. Edit > Preferences > Preview tab > Show Thumbnails drop-down menu
[12:20] <mesdag> mgvl: amarok?
[12:20] <furuno> mgv1: the most accurate IMO is Songbird with the Lyric plugin
[12:21] <lividium> nperry: I couldn't find anything that resembled power now in my cmos
[12:21] <jrib> bananasfordinner: is it running now?
[12:21] <mgv1> furuno, songbird? ok i will check it
[12:21] <furuno> mgv1: you can get it from getsongbird.com, of course, it's open source ;)
[12:21] <bananasfordinner> jrib: yes, but only because I typed "sudo cupsd"
[12:22] <jrib> bananasfordinner: undo that, does « sudo service cups start » work without error?
[12:22] <th3_b0b> ardchoille: And those settings would not only apply to nautilus itself but also to the files on the desktop?
[12:22] <ardchoille> th3_b0b: yes, nautilus manages the desktop as well
[12:22] <bananasfordinner> jrib: what kill signal do I need to pass again to stop cups?
[12:22] <mgv1> how do i add gmail contact to jabber???//?
[12:23] <MenZa> mgv1: Add their gmail addy.
[12:23] <th3_b0b> ardchoille, ah, ok, so there is no way of having thumbnails in nautilus but not in the desktop?
[12:23] <jrib> bananasfordinner: don't know what cups does
[12:23] <jrib> (with signals sent to it8
[12:23] <bananasfordinner> jrib: cups is the print server
[12:23] <ardchoille> th3_b0b: not that I know of, nautilus manages it self and everything on the desktop including the wallpaper and icons, etc
[12:23] <th3_b0b> ardchoille, Ok, thank you!
[12:24] <ardchoille> yw
[12:24] <mgv1> MenZa, what?
[12:24] <mgv1> why i cant find songbird with the manager of programs?
[12:24] <MenZa> mgv1: Their Gmail account name. Add that as a buddy.
[12:24] <furuno> mgv1: songbird is not packaged for ubuntu, you can get it from getsongbird.com
[12:25] <bananasfordinner> jrib: <<sudo service cups start>> works
[12:25] <jrib> bananasfordinner: this was after killing cupsd?
[12:25] <furuno> mgv1: to install simply extract it in the directory you wish and run it
[12:25] <bananasfordinner> jrib: yes.
[12:26] <jrib> bananasfordinner: on boot up, that is exactly what is run
[12:26] <mgv1> furuno, ok
[12:26] <jrib> bananasfordinner: can you make sure it works fine after a fresh boot as well?
[12:26] <bananasfordinner> ok
[12:26] <bananasfordinner> i'll be right back
[12:26] <mgv1> MenZa, when i add the gmail address nothing happens in jabber
[12:27] <MenZa> mgv1: Well, that's the approach.
[12:28] <paschu> Hey guys, everytime i start my torrent client, my connection breakes, is that normal?
[12:28] <furuno> paschu: do you use too many connection?
[12:28] <lividium> nperry: I couldn't find anything that resembled power now in my cmos
[12:28] <furuno> paschu: you need to limit the number of connection or your modem can be overloaded
[12:28] <bananasfordinner> jrib: it works on a clean boot.
[12:29] <paschu> It isnt overloaded, because i had more connections on windows
[12:29] <Tiders> Hmm does Ubuntu have any plans to fix Intel sound card support?
[12:29] <paschu> and it worked fine
[12:29] <dylan__> can anyone tell me how to change which folder is displayed on your desktop
[12:29] <dylan__> my intel sound card works just fine
[12:29] <Tiders> dylan__, Mine pops whenever activated
[12:29] <indus> Tiders: intel sound card?
[12:29] <Tiders> indus, Yes
[12:29] <furuno> paschu: hmm, try different client? deluge works fine for me
[12:29] <bananasfordinner> jrib: it appears that <<sudo service cups start>> is not actually running on boot.
[12:30] <paschu> furuno, already tried transmission and delunge
[12:30] <indus> Tiders: sure that your card is intel
[12:30] <Tiders> indus, Its built into my Asus P6T SE mobo
[12:30] <dylan__> yea uhm how do you change which folder is displayed on your desktop?
[12:30] <dylan__> and who's got windows 7 ultimate running in seamless mode :D
[12:30] <indus> Tiders: can u paste output of lshw -C sound
[12:30] <drhalan> hey, i cannnot install grub when using the text installer. its always stuck at "detecting other OSes"
[12:30] <jrib> bananasfordinner: what does « runlevel » return?
[12:31] <furuno> dylan__: I've tried the Pro
[12:31] <furuno> dylan__: runs pretty well except for aero ;)
[12:31] <bananasfordinner> jrib: N 2
[12:31] <furuno> dylan__: on 9.04 tought...
[12:31] <dylan__> furuno: yep, my 3d acceleration won't run with guest additons :/
[12:31] <Tiders> indus, http://pastebin.com/f772920a7
[12:32] <dylan__> furuno: but other then that i'm happy, i got microsoft office 2007 for free from my college today
[12:32] <indus> Tiders: cool thanks
[12:32] <furuno> dylan__: well, I've never tried to use 3d in virtual 7
[12:32] <indus> Tiders: so what exactly is the issue
[12:32] <jrib> bananasfordinner: why do you believe the script isn't being run on boot?
[12:32] <Tiders> indus, Whenever it is activated from being "idle" it makes a popping noise
[12:32] <dylan__> furuno: do you know how to change which folders are displayed on the desktop
[12:32] <Tiders> indus, Through my speakers
[12:32] <bananasfordinner> jrib: because cups is not running after boot is completed.
[12:32] <indus> Tiders: what do you mean activated
[12:33] <furuno> dylan__: I don't think it's possible with GNOME, but I guess it can be done with KDE
[12:33] <Tiders> indus, So if there is no sound for a while and then there is a sudden sound it will pop... But if playing a game with constant sound it doesnt do it
[12:33] <jrib> bananasfordinner: ok.  It's more likely it fails for some reason.  Does it start without issue now using the service command?
[12:33] <indus> Tiders: ok
[12:33] <dylan__> furuno: :/
[12:33] <indus> Tiders: yeah which ubuntu
[12:33] <indus> Tiders: 9110
[12:33] <dylan__> furuno: kde eats your video memory up... so i don't use it
[12:33] <bananasfordinner> jrib: yeah. It starts without problem.
[12:33] <indus> 9 point one zero?
[12:33] <Tiders> indus, I just upgraded to karmic yesterday because everyone says most issues have been fixed
[12:33] <indus> Tiders: ok
[12:33] <furuno> dylan__: no it actually only, chows on them and spit them back :D
[12:34] <Tiders> indus, Is this a known issue?
[12:34] <indus> Tiders: nothing fixed, i have some issues too
[12:34] <dylan__> furuno: lol it works fine if i'm not running windows 7 in seamless mode
[12:34] <indus> Tiders: fixed for some with new issues for others
[12:34] <dylan__> furuno: but ..... i had to split my ram in half
[12:34] <jrib> bananasfordinner: /etc/rc2.d/S50cups is a symlink to /etc/init.d/cups .  That means it gets executed on runlevel 2.  Have you done anything related to upstart, sysv init, or cups recently?
[12:34] <Tiders> indus, Is there already a bug report for it?
[12:35] <mgv1> how do i rip cds like the dw 2003 to make them availble for lyrics plaing in songbird?
[12:35] <indus> Tiders: but i dont have major problems
[12:35] <indus> some crackle occasionally
[12:35] <furuno> mgv1: if you use the Lyric plugin, songbird should fetch the lyric automatically from the internet
[12:35] <Tiders> indus, The main time I notice it is if Im sitting typing out stuff in Word with no sound and then someone signs into MSN since the card is being activated it makes a a huge pop and scares the crap outta me
[12:35] <furuno> mgv1: just make sure you have the ID3 tag corerct
[12:36] <indus> Tiders: really huge pop?
[12:36] <bananasfordinner> jrib: Yes. I've messed around with swappiness and concurrency = shell. Other than that, no.
[12:36] <mgv1> furuno, but first i need to rip the files
[12:36] <Tiders> indus, Yeah
[12:36] <indus> Tiders: maybe search for  a bug report i guess
[12:36] <jrib> bananasfordinner: get rid of concurrency, see if problem goes away
[12:36] <Tiders> indus, ALright
[12:36] <bananasfordinner> all right.
[12:37] <Tiders> indus How much do sound cards go for if I just wanted to buy one thats compatible and bypass the onboard one?
[12:37] <furuno> mgv1: well, you can use other apps to rip the cd
[12:37] <indus> Tiders: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1322134
[12:37] <indus> Tiders: oh they are expensive
[12:37] <mgv1> furuno, what like?
[12:38] <indus> Tiders: the reason  its integrated is cos its very good quality anyway
[12:38] <indus> Tiders:like a network card , saves costs
[12:38] <furuno> mgv1: SoundJuice, it should be preinstalled (the Audio CD Extractor)
[12:38] <indus> Tiders: sound on board has been super since the days of nvidia nforce
[12:38] <indus> Tiders: or intel for that matter
[12:38] <furuno> mgv1: typo, I mean SoundJuicer
[12:39] <chrisw> how can I see what packages have been held back? (and why?)
[12:39] <jrib> bananasfordinner: if you google "concurrency shell cups", you'll see what's going on
[12:39] <jrib> chrisw: use aptitude in a terminal?
[12:39] <bananasfordinner> jrib: ahhh thanks
[12:39] <chrisw> jrib: yeah, got that bit, but what apttiude command?
[12:40] <jrib> chrisw: what were you trying to do when you got the error?
[12:40] <CHESLYN> hi everyone
[12:40] <mateusz> czesc
[12:40] <bananasfordinner> jrib: thanks. It looks good now :)
[12:40] <mateusz> hello
[12:40] <chrisw> jrib: when I installed screen, I noticed a bunch of packages were kept back, I just want to list them, without installign somethign else...
[12:41] <t0mppa> ok, maybe i should rephrase my question: where do i have to go to get an answer (or even a reply in general) on how to get my ubuntu to boot, since i'm getting ignored here, on the forums and on launchpad? to the kernel mailing list?
[12:41] <jrib> chrisw: I presume some packages weren't upgraded... sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[12:41] <jrib> !support > t0mppa
[12:42] <mgv1> how do i run SoundJuicer????
[12:42] <lightbricko> Does anyone know why TrueCrypt is not in the repositories?
[12:42] <chrisw> jrib: yeah, but for now i just want that list without doing the safe-upgrade
[12:42] <ardchoille> t0mppa: Sounds like you're assuming everyone here knows every answer, this isn't the case.
[12:42] <jrib> chrisw: you'll get the list when that fails...
[12:42] <frogzoo> !grub | t0mppa
[12:43] <frogzoo> t0mppa: did you upgrade to koala, or clean install?
[12:43] <t0mppa> ardchoille: no, i'm not assuming you know the answer to everything, i'd just like to know where i could get any help at all, since i haven't managed to solve the problem on my own
[12:43] <CHESLYN> anyone how can i change my 'username' accept by 'user & groups'.is'nt there a command maybe
[12:43] <t0mppa> frogzoo: clean install
[12:44] <mgv1> where do i need to put the songbird files??????
[12:44] <frogzoo> t0mppa: you'd rather rant than explore your problem?
[12:44] <chrisw> jrib: okay :-S
[12:44] <lightbricko> !TrueCrypt
[12:44] <frogzoo> !grub2 for clean install, you're running grub2 | t0mppa
[12:44] <mgv1> how do i open songbird?????
[12:45] <frogzoo> !grub2 | t0mppa
[12:45] <vulle> hi there
[12:45] <frogzoo> t0mppa: read that link, should get you going
[12:45] <t0mppa> frogzoo: ok, i'll do that
[12:46] <vulle> can someone help me with advice?
[12:46] <vulle> it is about NVIDIA drivers and 6 little screens
[12:46] <IdleOne> mgv1: https://launchpad.net/~songbird-daily/+archive/ppa
[12:46] <Chetic> is firefox supposed to crash very often on 9.10?
[12:47] <Chetic> mostly when I try to download stuff
[12:47] <CHESLYN> anyone how can i change my 'username' accept by 'user & groups'.is'nt there a command that i can execute maybe
[12:47] <mgv1> IdleOne, what is that?
[12:48] <ikonia> CHESLYN: you have to delete and re-create it using the gui
[12:48] <jrib> CHESLYN: read usermod's man page very carefully if you insist on doing this
[12:48] <SandGorgon> Chetic, umm.. it shouldnt. I suggest you run firefox from commandline using "firefox -P --no-remote" to launch a new firefox with new profile directory. This is to check if ur plugins are screwing with ur system
[12:48] <llutz> CHESLYN: usermod -l ...   be careful
[12:48] <IdleOne> mgv1: that is the Songbird PPA. add it to your repository list, apt-get update, apt-get install songbird
[12:49] <mgv1> IdleOne, im trying to add it but the add button is grey
[12:50] <IdleOne> mgv1: the add button from Software Sources?
[12:50] <mgv1> IdleOne, yes
[12:50] <IdleOne> mgv1: close it and try re-opening
[12:50] <LioN__> I've upgraded to karmic and my games doesn't have sound, someone can help me/
[12:51] <nperry> Does sound work everywhere else, LioN__ ?
[12:51] <t0mppa> frogzoo: the page only seems to give detail on how to fix grub2 itself, however the grub2 is working just fine, i just can't get the kernel to load up
[12:51] <LioN__> yes
[12:51] <mgv1> IdleOne, still grey
[12:51] <CHESLYN> thanks guys i'll try it
[12:51] <LioN__> now I'm hearing Led Zeppelin
[12:52] <IdleOne> what is the comand to add a repos? apt-add-repository?
[12:52] <nperry> LioN__: Have you checked in System->Prefences>Sound that its not muted for just that application?
[12:52] <vulle> any help with NVIDIA drivers?
[12:52] <LioN__> nperry: I'll check it right now
[12:53] <IdleOne> mgv1: not sure why it is not letting you add the repo.
[12:53] <nperry> LioN__: It needs the game open to see it :)
[12:53] <mgv1> IdleOne, i also have the installation of songbird but dont know how to install it
[12:53] <aguitel> i make sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ,install the kernel 2.6.31-16 but it seems not in startupmanager ,anyone know about this ?
[12:54] <LioN__> nperry: yes I know... but it's working fine
[12:54] <IdleOne> mgv1: there should be instructions on the website
[12:54] <nperry> mgv1: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install songbird -- if youve added the Repo right
[12:54] <t0mppa> so, i guess my earlier question still stands even though triggering plenty of heated replies: if people here or on the forum or on launchpad cannot help me in regards to getting my kernel to load up, should i go post on the kernel mailing list then?
[12:54] <IdleOne> nperry: what is the apt command to add PPA?
[12:54] <jrib> t0mppa: I have yet to actually see a detailed description of your issue...
[12:55] <LioN__> nperry: yes I know...
[12:55] <mgv1> IdleOne, do you know where are the instructions?
[12:55] <nperry> IdleOne:  sudo add-apt-repository lp:songbird-daily
[12:55] <LioN__> nperry: it shows 100% but I can't hear anithing
[12:56] <nperry> LioN__: Have you checked the game prefences?
[12:56] <IdleOne> mgv1: sudo add-apt-repository lp:songbird-daily
[12:56] <IdleOne> thank you nperry
[12:56] <jess_nc> Hie everyone
[12:56] <IdleOne> mgv1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:56] <nperry> !hi | jess_nc
[12:56] <LioN__> nperry: Yes and it is ok too
[12:57] <nperry> IdleOne: He doesnt need to upgrade, he needs to install it :)
[12:57] <jess_nc> hey :) nice welcome :) thanks!
[12:57] <IdleOne> nperry: yeah I just do it anyway
[12:57] <nperry> LioN__: Thats odd, what game is it?
[12:57] <Chetic> SandGorgon: ok so starting from a new profile made the crashes stop.. now how do I find out what plugin is causing this?
[12:57] <IdleOne> mgv1: sudo apt-get install songbird
[12:57] <nperry> IdleOne: Fair enough, everyone likes a up-to-date ubuntu :D
[12:58] <t0mppa> jrib: ok, installed 9.10 UNR on my netbook through a LiveUSB session which worked just fine, install went through just fine. then it wanted to reboot and after loading the bios, grub2 loads up just fine displaying the usual options. when i pick the kernel that was just installed, my computer just restarts again, loads bios up again and goes back to grub2 again. however, if i pick my windows installation (on another partition), it
[12:58] <t0mppa> loads up perfectly fine. thus i can only get to the grub2 command line and operate any commands that it supports.
[12:58] <IdleOne> nperry: never know how long it's been since security updates have been installed :)
[12:58] <LioN__> nperry: I've being this trouble with: Supertuxkart, Supertux 2 and whit Half-Life 2 (WINE)
[12:58] <nperry> Chetic: Add one plugin at a time, reboot and if it crashed after installing you know which one it is
[12:58] <SandGorgon> Chetic, :) no clue. if it was the Chromium browser, you could have used the inbuilt task manager. Try disabling the addons, one-by-one
[12:58] <mgv1> i dont have it on ppa IdleOne
[12:58] <Chetic> :/
[12:59] <IdleOne> mgv1: you don't have what?
[12:59] <jrib> t0mppa: did you run "check the cd for defects"?
[12:59] <jess_nc> m here to have a help to resolve a problem, can i?
[12:59] <tarzeau> is there a fix for: http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg37479.html ?
[12:59] <nperry> Sure jess_nc Ask away :)
[12:59] <mgv1> IdleOne, i cant install it because it is not on the resp
[13:00] <IdleOne> mgv1: are you paying attention to what i am asking you to do?
[13:00] <IdleOne> mgv1: close Software Sources/Synaptic
[13:00] <IdleOne> mgv1: sudo add-apt-repository lp:songbird-daily
[13:00] <IdleOne> mgv1: sudo apt-get update
[13:00] <jess_nc> ok :) thanks! ^_^ well... I've change my root fs from reiserfs to ext4. I made a backup of my reiserfs, create a new empty ext4, cp -a old_one/* new_one/, update-initramfs...
[13:00] <IdleOne> mgv1: sudo apt-get install songbird
[13:01] <jess_nc> update grub...
[13:01] <t0mppa> jrib: i'm not given that option when booting up from the usb stick
[13:01] <jess_nc> copy stage files (ever if there are some updates)
[13:01] <furuno> hmm, when I've tried to enabling compiz it has this error message saying that compositing extension is not supported, I've just migrated to 9.10 from 9.04, done installing ATI 9.11 driver for my HD 4850, and after I enabled Xinerama this happens
[13:01] <jess_nc> and the system doesn't start
[13:01] <jrib> t0mppa: did you verify the md5sum of the file you downloaded?
[13:01] <t0mppa> jrib: can i run it from the live session?
[13:01] <nperry> jess_nc: Any error messgae(s)
[13:02] <LioN__> nperry: I've being this trouble with: Supertuxkart, Supertux 2 and whit Half-Life 2 (WINE)
[13:02] <nperry> *message(s)
[13:02] <jess_nc> "Kernel panic ... try to put init= in parameters)
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:03] <jess_nc> i dont know what i miss... :S
[13:03] <gypsymauro> there is a good html/css editor for ubuntu? (no vim or emacs)
[13:03] <furuno> gypsymauro: Geany
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> gypsymauro: bluefish
[13:03] <IdleOne> mgv1: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:songbird-daily/ppa
[13:03] <IdleOne> sorry I had that command wrong
[13:03] <Halitech> gypsymauro, nvu
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> !info bluefish
[13:03] <furuno> gypsymauro: or a full blown Eclipse / NetBeans
[13:04] <CHESLYN> llutz: i got this '-l, --login NEW_LOGIN' at the options of 'usermod-l' how can i execute that command cos i tried almost everything
[13:04] <nperry> That was my bad IdleOne sorry!
[13:04] <IdleOne> nperry: I should of checked also :/ no worries
[13:04] <nperry> LioN__: bare with me, just looking to see if theres anything
[13:04] <LioN__> nperry: ok
[13:04] <sunil> hi
[13:04] <furuno> !hi | sunil
[13:04] <sunil> ya
[13:05] <t0mppa> jrib: just checked it and it matches the one on the hashes page
[13:05] <sunil> i have some problem on ubuntu
[13:05] <Ultali> on Jaunty I am having trouble with mouse devices, clicks are recognised but moving the cursor just isn't happening, not sure what changed to cause the problem. Tried all my backed up xorg confs none of them help, dmesg shows the logitech mouse on USB (and clicks work) hald is running. Anyone got some ideas for trouble shooting?
[13:05] <Halitech> !ask | sunil
[13:05] <nperry> LioN__: Ahhh give this a good, looks like an pulse access problem! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8315154&postcount=10
[13:05] <sunil> can u help me
[13:05] <jrib> t0mppa: it's strange that the live environment works without issue and it doesn't load up after install.  Have you checked if the same thing happens with regular ubuntu?
[13:05] <jess_nc> (m reading the Ext4 HOWTO at http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto and it seem there is a kernel bug for 2.6.26 with Debian (m running lenny))
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> sunil: only if you ask...
[13:06] <indus> sunil yes
[13:06] <sunil> audio is not work proper
[13:06] <LioN__> nperry: ok, I'll see it right now
[13:06] <airtonix> gypsymauro, aptana hands down. advantage is that interface is exactly the same as it is on windows or mac.
[13:06] <jess_nc> (but I have 2.6.30, ouf)
[13:06] <BlackBishop> my karmic koala ( fresh install ) disconnects me from my ssh server :|
[13:06] <t0mppa> jrib: not yet, because i figured they both run the same kernel
[13:06] <nperry> jess_nc: 2.6.31 is the best for ext4 support more stable
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> t0mppa: what video card do you use?
[13:06] <BlackBishop> debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
[13:06] <BlackBishop> Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[13:06] <Halitech> sunil, describe "proper"
[13:06] <airtonix> gypsymauro, my next choise is gedit with certain plugins
[13:07] <BlackBishop> this being the messages I get when using -v
[13:07] <jess_nc> nperry, ok, i note that
[13:07] <jrib> t0mppa: don't actually know what UNR uses, but that's what I would try
[13:07] <jess_nc> i read "Right now there's not a stable version of grub that supports booting a kernel from a ext4 partition. It's recommended that you keep /boot in a ext3 partition. "
[13:07] <sunil> pulse audio
[13:07] <IdleOne> mgv1: How is it going there?
[13:07] <jess_nc> maybe Grub can't boot a kernel on ext4?
[13:07] <epinky> Ultali: sudo service dbus restart && sudo service gdm restart
[13:07] <Chetic> Can anybody help me to hear my line-in or mic?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: not bad, just chilling after a major outage at work
[13:07] <BlackBishop> http://pastebin.com/d6e957d40 ( sshd problem :| )
[13:07] <Ultali> epinky thanks will try that ow
[13:08] <sunil> and HDA ATI SB
[13:08] <nperry> jess_nc: What version of grub?
[13:08] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: lol cool beans :)
[13:08] <indus> sunil i have the same HDA ATI
[13:08] <indus> sunil what is the problem exactly
[13:08] <jess_nc> (hmm let me see)
[13:08] <indus> !who | sunil
[13:08] <sunil> ok
[13:08] <jess_nc> 0.97-29ubuntu59
[13:09] <t0mppa> jrib: the unr uses 2.6.31-14-generic
[13:09] <BlackBishop> grgl .. what the heck is wrong with the sshd :| I just did a openssh-server .. I expected it to just work ..
[13:09] <ikonia> BlackBishop: you don't launch sshd like that
[13:09] <jess_nc> it's certainly because of this
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> t0mppa: can you give the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[13:09] <CHESLYN> llutz: i got this '-l, --login NEW_LOGIN' at the options of 'usermod-l' how can i execute that command cos i tried almost everything
[13:09] <IdleOne> nperry: I need to reboot, can you please help mgv1 if he asks again about songbird
[13:10] <BlackBishop> ikonia, I know.
[13:10] <nperry> Sure IdleOne :)
[13:10] <IdleOne> nperry: thanks
[13:10] <BlackBishop> ikonia, sshd is started via /etc/init.d/ssh start
[13:10] <BlackBishop> the log you see there is from my attempt to connect to my ssh
[13:10] <ikonia> BlackBishop: sorry, I missunderstood what you where saying, I though you where saying that's how you where trying to start it
[13:10] <BlackBishop> ( via the command line ssh utility )
[13:10] <ikonia> BlackBishop: I've not seen a log
[13:10] <nperry> jess_nc: Are you able to re-chroot in to upgrade grub to grub2
[13:11] <jess_nc> yes i can nperry
[13:11] <laeg> i created an account for someone and then removed it through users and groups but now when i go to make an account of the same name i'm told the group already exists. when i go to remove the group i'm told "This may leave files with invalid group ID in the filesystem." how do i cleanly remove the group to create the new account?
[13:11] <nperry> jess_nc: IIRC grub 0.97 doesnt really understand ext4 - Not saying it will fix it as may chuck up another error
[13:12] <t0mppa> ActionParsnip: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C79 [Quadro FX 470M] (rev 01)
[13:12] <Ultali> epinky no such luck I lost my keyboard from that too
[13:12] <Ultali> so was unable to login or do a nice restart
[13:12] <jess_nc> nperry, but the patch developed by Ubuntu is available also for Debian? I wonder
[13:12] <ikonia> laeg: just remove the group
[13:12] <ranjan> hello every body is there any way to modify notification applet so that it only notifies me about things that I want to be notified about.
[13:12] <Ultali> this is a problem that has continued throughout reboots and updates
[13:13] <nperry> jess_nc: Not to sure if its been pushed upstream
[13:13] <epinky> Ultali: do a ctrl-alt-del to get to a prompt, then quickly type init 3 to prevent reboot
[13:13] <xxtripxx> hello everyone
[13:13] <rubbs> !hi | xxtripxx
[13:13] <nperry> !hi | xxtripxx
[13:13] <jess_nc> nperry, i'd better install the last ubuntu's grub, I guess
[13:14] <nperry> rubbs: you beat me to it!
[13:14] <Ultali> ctrl+alt+del will reboot wtf
[13:14] <rubbs> nperry: ;)
[13:14] <ikonia> Ultali: please control your language
[13:14] <xxtripxx> well thank you for the more warming welcome this time around lol
[13:14] <rubbs> xxtripxx: np
[13:14] <IdleOne> !dontzap | Ultali
[13:14] <airtonix> ranjan, https://answers.launchpad.net/notify-osd/
[13:15] <crissi^> hello
[13:15] <Ultali> I can ctrl+alt+bckspc to restart X but none of that helps Ive tried that quite a few times
[13:15] <crissi^> after updating cups it wont print with my samsung clp-510 wich uses the splix driver... i can add the printer fine via webif but printing stoppes every time with an error
[13:15] <crissi^> what could be wrong?
[13:16] <ikonia> crissi^: is the driver included within cups ? or did you add it after ?
[13:16] <IdleOne> Ultali: sorry I think I misread you when I offered that factoid
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> t0mppa: ok, boot to root recovery console and run: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nv
[13:16] <BlackBishop> anybody else having problems with the default openssh-server in karmic koala ?
[13:16] <crissi^> ikonia: yes, splix is in it and it works out of the box
[13:16] <epinky> Ultali: you have keyboard? , you need a promtp
[13:16] <ikonia> BlackBishop: wat is your problem ?
[13:16] <syockit> How do I export a PATH environment permanently in a session without restarting?
[13:16] <crissi^> but after upgrade no
[13:16] <erUSUL> !details | BlackBishop
[13:16] <t0mppa> ActionParsnip: i can't boot to recovery console either
[13:16] <Ultali> epinky I have a prompt
[13:16] <ikonia> wjhat
[13:16] <BlackBishop> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/d6e957d40
[13:16] <ikonia> ughh,. sorry
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> t0mppa: will force the OS to use the vesa driver
[13:16] <rubbs> anyone know where I can find the information on package updates from command line? I have a server and I'm curious as to why something was updated.
[13:16] <ikonia> syockit: export PATH=$blah
[13:16] <BlackBishop> erUSUL, http://pastebin.com/d6e957d40
[13:16] <Ultali> ctrl+alt+f1 thats easy
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> t0mppa: ah, then you will need to chroot from the liveCD to the installed system
[13:17] <epinky> Ultali: sudo service dbus start &&$ sudo service hal start &&$ sudo service gdm restart , once again
[13:17] <Ultali> epinky: okedoke
[13:18] <syockit> ikonia: I tried that, but subsequent bash shell spawns won't have them
[13:18] <jess_nc> nperry, (I read the patch has been applied on ubuntu's grub package since 0.97-29ubuntu47 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/314350 and i have 0.97-29ubuntu59 installed in memory (on live ubuntu on usb stick))
[13:18] <CHESLYN> anyone , i execute the command ''usermod -l'' and i got options and one of the options that i want to use is '-l, --login NEW_LOGIN' but i dont know how to execute it any help?
[13:19] <Ultali> epinky: cool have it back, what can I do to makesure all the correct services are running from boot next time? thanks btw ;)
[13:19] <thor^^> hi, I'm having problems, I can't move windows around, I just reinstalled Ubuntu through wubi
[13:19] <progre55> hi people! what is the font for "barcode"-like text?
[13:19] <ikonia> syockit: ahhh you mean system wide, put it in your .bash_profile or .bashrc
[13:20] <ikonia> BlackBishop: can you pastebin your /etc/ssh/sshd_config please
[13:20] <BlackBishop> ikonia, erUSUL, it seems it only does that on a non-default port, works just fine on 22, however, if I modify /etc/ssh/sshd_config Port=5522 .. won't work
[13:20] <ikonia> BlackBishop: it looks like it's trying to connect on ipv6
[13:20] <epinky> Ultali: afaik, I should be fixed by now, by make sure those services are enabled on Service Manager
[13:20] <syockit> ikonia: so I suppose .profile won't cut it, huh?
[13:20] <syockit> ikonia: ok thanks
[13:20] <ikonia> syockit: that's not for bash
[13:21] <BlackBishop> ikonia, no problem 'bout that .. it's localhost ..
[13:21] <ikonia> BlackBishop: disable the ubuntu firewall for starters while debugging
[13:21] <Ultali> epinky: cheers will do, thanks for the help. Otherwise I will just alias your invokation for next time
[13:21] <BlackBishop> ikonia, no firewall
[13:21] <ikonia> BlackBishop: it's localhost on ipv6 - the firewall rules may not be blocking it
[13:21] <epinky> Ultali: you're welcome :)
[13:21] <ikonia> BlackBishop: have you disabled the default iptables firewall ?
[13:21] <BlackBishop> yup
[13:21] <BlackBishop> iptables -L -n is all clean and all chains are on ACCEPT
[13:21] <ikonia> BlackBishop: try ssh 127.0.0.1 -vv -p 5522
[13:22] <erUSUL> BlackBishop: Port=5522 is not valid syntax... is Port[spc]5552
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> progre55: i'd say system
[13:22] <ikonia> erUSUL: nice eyes
[13:23] <jess_nc> nperry, i will try again to get more informations ^^
[13:23] <CHESLYN> anyone , i execute the command ''usermod -l'' and i got options and one of the options that i want to use is '-l, --login NEW_LOGIN' but i dont know how to execute it any help?
[13:23] <BlackBishop> ikonia, erUSUL http://pastebin.com/d9d46d92
[13:23] <progre55> ActionParsnip: is that the name of the font? =)
[13:24] <thor^^> hi, I'm having problems, I can't move windows around, I just reinstalled Ubuntu through wubi, it didn't work with or without compiz active
[13:24] <BlackBishop> ( you can try see the problem ssh'ing to d3xt3r01.dyndns.org -p 5522 )
[13:24] <lividium> my laptop battery is not showing up/working in ubuntu. What can I do to troubleshoot/fix this?
[13:24] <jess_nc> (come back soon, except if it works hehe)
[13:24] <rubbs> CHESLYN: what are you attempting to do exactly
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> progre55: from what I can tell, yes
[13:24] <NET||abuse> hey guys,, that empathy screen sharing idea is that fullly released with Karmic? an ddoes it offer any ability to share an ubuntu screen over to a user on windows?
[13:25] <ikonia> syockit: try ssh 127.0.0.1
[13:25] <progre55> ActionParsnip: thanks, appreciate. I'll take a look at it
[13:25] <NET||abuse> I have a friend who i'm trying to show some stuff on linux with apache etc.. i was looking for a good screen sharing app that would let me show him my screen?
[13:25] <BlackBishop> ssh 127.0.0.1 doesn't work either :\
[13:25] <rubbs> NET||abuse: commandline or gui?
[13:25] <CHESLYN> rubbs: changing my ''username''
[13:26] <thiebaude> thor^^, did you install ccsm?
[13:26] <thor^^> yes thiebaude, and move window plugin is active
[13:26] <NET||abuse> rubbs, i am going to be showing him some stuff in terminal and then just switch to browsers to show the results.
[13:26] <Oli``> Is there a simple way to map buttons on a game controller (a PS1 controller through a USB convertor) to keyboard buttons?
[13:26] <NET||abuse> rubbs, mostly how to configure vim, then apache , then mysql
[13:26] <thor^^> thiebaude, alt clicking dosen't work either
[13:26] <Ratizar> where can i see the model of my wifi???
[13:26]  * shurdry rotola allegramente e spassosamente
[13:26] <NET||abuse> rubbs, then install python and mod_wsgi or just php :)
[13:26] <epinky> CHESLYN: sudo usermod -l your_new_login your_old_login ,  be careful :|
[13:27] <llutz> CHESLYN: why don't you read the full man-page: "sudo usermod -l newusername youroldusername"   don't blame anyone if you break things with this
[13:27] <NET||abuse> rubbs, i was gonna then repeat the lesson with my little brother who has an xp and windows 7 machine at home and i want him to eventually dual boot one of them.
[13:27] <NET||abuse> rubbs, have to convert my little bro' to being a linux hacker :)
[13:27] <NET||abuse> rubbs, so what solution do you have in mind?
[13:28] <ikonia> syockit: thinking......
[13:28] <Sorell> Hey guys where's the config file for notify-OSD?
[13:28] <rubbs> NET||abuse: I would suggest VNC since you are going to be showing things in the browser. You can tunnel it through ssh to make it secure
[13:28] <erUSUL> BlackBishop: Connecting to localhost [::1]  <<< is ipv6 ? my localhost resolves to 127.0.0.1
[13:28] <NET||abuse> rubbs, that screen sharing concept they built into karmic - empathy,, any good?
[13:28] <Ratizar> !wifi
[13:28]  * shurdry rotola allegra e contenta
[13:28] <BlackBishop> no, localhost is 127.0.0.1
[13:28] <rubbs> NET||abuse: I personally haven't used the empathy sharing, but I've heard it works
[13:28] <BlackBishop> I've trying ssh 127.0.0.1 -p 5522 too, same thing
[13:28] <NET||abuse> rubbs, how can i get an app that has a windows client that's not requiring ssh??
[13:28] <Ratizar> how can i see the model of my wifi
[13:28] <Halitech> Ratizar, lspci if its internal, lsusb if its ausb device
[13:29] <rubbs> NET||abuse: You could also try the 'screen' command but that only works on command lines.
[13:29] <Ratizar> Halitech its on laptop os??
[13:29] <Ratizar> so??
[13:29] <shriedi> i am acess guest windows server w2k3 how do i acess pen drive in winsdows
[13:29] <rubbs> CHESLYN: Changing your username won't work if your logged in as it. You have to be completely logged out because you can't have any processes running under your username
[13:29] <CHESLYN> rubbs & llutz whats the consequences that i have to face
[13:29] <Halitech> Ratizar, could be either or, I've seen some laptops use the usb bus so try both
[13:29] <Ratizar> thankd Halitech
[13:29] <NET||abuse> rubbs, i'm just wishing there was a "GoToAssist" type app that could work for me here.
[13:30] <t0mppa> ActionParsnip: ok, i mounted the file system on the live session, chrooted into it, ran the removed the packages you specified, rebooted and it's still experiencing the same problem
[13:30] <NET||abuse> rubbs, just show them my screen in real time.
[13:30] <rubbs> NET||abuse: I would suggest VNC then
[13:30] <rubbs> NET||abuse: you can set it as a "read only" type so even if it isn't secure, they can't change anything
[13:30] <rubbs> NET||abuse: it has a windows client.
[13:30] <rubbs> !vnc | NET||abuse
[13:32] <rubbs> CHESLYN: consequences could include a loss of ownership of processes. This can cause problems if you are running something, you won't be able to stop it.
[13:32] <BlackBishop> ikonia, however, setting "Port 22" in sshd_config works just great ! :|
[13:32] <rubbs> CHESLYN: or if it's running something you need (like bash or something) it won't let you connect to your process
[13:32] <radoe> rubbs: processes are always indentified by numeric userid, not username. Displaying a name for this in top/ps/whatever is only an added bonus and not needed by the kernel.
[13:32] <rubbs> radoe: apologies, your are correct. Just read that
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> t0mppa: try some boot options then, you have forced your system to use the driver which ANY card can use.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | t0mppa
[13:33] <researcher1> how to unmount a partition from terminal?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> t0mppa: you could also try chrooting then running updates, see if its nicer
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> researcher1: sudo umount /mount/point
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> researcher1: you should change your nick too
[13:34] <researcher1> i tried this command but it said Command not found
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> researcher1: its umount, not unmount
[13:34] <researcher1> oh. thanks
[13:34] <CHESLYN> rubbs: can i change it in 'Recovering mode' and it will be or am i still taking chancings
[13:34] <researcher1> that worked
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> researcher1: READ the commands given, dont read what you think is there
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> researcher1: you really need to change your nick
[13:34] <researcher1> ok. Thats the right teaching
[13:35] <rubbs> CHESLYN: honestly I don't know. I would suggest a backup of your system to make sure.
[13:36] <rubbs> ActionParsnip: why does researcher1 need to change his nick?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> rubbs: ive seen him ask for the most redimentary things (like that) which the most simple websearch will go, and his nick is researcher1!? go figure
[13:37] <rubbs> NET||abuse: did you find what you needed?
[13:37] <epinky> :)
[13:37] <researcher1> ah. so nice
[13:37] <rubbs> ActionParsnip: asking others can be considered research as well.
[13:37] <thor^^> I'm having problems, I can't move windows around, I just reinstalled Ubuntu through wubi, it didn't work with or without compiz active, in compiz move window is active
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> rubbs: true bit you get my point
[13:37] <NET||abuse> rubbs, hmm, not really, i need something i can give to a not so techincal person to connect to their machine to help them, or show them my machine to instruct..
[13:38] <rubbs> ActionParsnip: no i don't people have to start somewhere, and sometimes they don't know what to search for exactly
[13:38] <CHESLYN> rubbs: you know what thanks alot.......alot but i think i'll pass this one.i really appreciate what you told and learned me
[13:38] <rubbs> ActionParsnip: also asking people can give better info than search results many times
[13:38] <spywarePOP> my remote controls "back"-key is "Shift+Ctrl+Alt+%" in ubuntu, is there anyway i can bind "Shift+Ctrl+alt+%" to "backspace" ?
[13:38] <rubbs> CHESLYN: np
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> rubbs: the question he tped would have sufficed, search engines and their results are quite advanced now
[13:38] <Halitech> NET||abuse, vnc is very easy and for the purpose of connecting to you, all they need to do is run the viewer, enter the address and password
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> rubbs: seems to be an "ask before search" rather than the other way around
[13:39] <ikonia> erUSUL: I was thinking it was an ipv6 issue also
[13:39] <Halitech> NET||abuse, http://www.tightvnc.com/download/1.3.10/tightvnc-1.3.10_x86_viewer.zip
[13:40] <researcher1> Hey. I do both
[13:40] <researcher1> ask n search
[13:40] <Fbian> !list
[13:40] <rubbs> ActionParsnip: this is still a support channel, for beginners and others, it's better to help rather than scold, and making fun at a users expense isn't helping Linux's "Elitest" image
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> rubbs: ok
[13:41] <rubbs> NET||abuse: VNC (without ssh) should work for you.
[13:41] <researcher1> what is asked is searched and what is searched is again clarified by asking again(re-searching).Hence researcher
[13:44] <fearthis> Hi was wondering if any1 could help me i cant login to the ubuntu forum everyy time i try it says loggin in then takes me 2 a page saying i dont have permission ect and gives me aa login box
[13:44] <rubbs> researcher1: ask away. Just know that people will expect you to search beforehand
[13:44] <NET||abuse> rubbs, hmm, not sure, would you be able to explain it to your dear mother, who has trouble with understanding how to use folders and ends up with everything on the desktop,
[13:44] <gfather> hello guys , getting error Depends: python2.4-glade2 but it is not installable
[13:44] <gfather>                 Depends: python2.4-gtk2 but it is not installable
[13:44] <gfather>  any idea on how to fix ?
[13:45] <researcher1> rubbs: thanks
[13:45] <MTecknology> fearthis: /join #ubuntuforums
[13:45] <fearthis> ok cheers
[13:46] <ubuntu> Hi all people
[13:46] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:46] <gfather> hay ubuntu
[13:46] <MTecknology> gfather: what version of ubuntu?
[13:47] <kr_ubuntu> how can i set password policy for ldap for a specific user
[13:47] <rubbs> NET||abuse: Any type of desktop share is going to be somewhat difficult, but vnc (like RealVNC) has a fairly simple interface.
[13:47] <t0mppa> ActionParsnip: tried the options listed there, none of which helped and the list on kernel.org is so long it'd take a whole day to go through them. so, are there any updates in particular that i should run from the chroot or just a general "apt-get upgrade"?
[13:47] <gfather> MTecknology 9.04
[13:47] <Chetic> How do I cmake clean?
[13:47] <MTecknology> gfather: and what are you trying to install?
[13:48] <YellowIndie> Help me people, I wanna change my monitor to default 1400x900 but this size  doesn't shows up in System>Preferences>Display. I tried <xrandr addmode output VGA 1400x900> but its not working.
[13:48] <NET||abuse> rubbs, hmm, yeh, well i guess
[13:48] <MTecknology> gfather: actually - can you pastebin the whole output?
[13:48] <gfather> <MTecknology easycam2
[13:48] <fearthis> while im here thought could any1 help me with my lm sensors it detects but im not getting the same info as every1 else on the forum and not sure what to do next to get it working
[13:48] <NET||abuse> rubbs, the other trick i'm wondering if it's possible to setup an app that would allow peer to peer connections from behind firewalls without port forwards being configured manually,,
[13:49] <gfather> <MTecknology sure give me a sec
[13:49] <NET||abuse> rubbs, does it require a man in the middle, a web service to act as a negotiation point?
[13:49] <rubbs> NET||abuse: you can look at showmypc.com, problem is that the server (not the viewer) has to be windows.
[13:49] <MTecknology> !info easycam2
[13:49] <rubbs> NET||abuse: I don't know of a whole lot of others, but I'll look around for a sec
[13:49] <epinky> gfather: sudo dpkg --force-depends -i easycam2-gtk.deb
[13:50] <TecnicoDPC> #linuxjournal
[13:50] <gfather> <epinky ok , ill try that
[13:50] <gfather> MTecknology http://pastebin.com/m49cf4bab
[13:51] <NET||abuse> rubbs, yeh, i was wondering if a go between service could setup a "session" with perhaps the triggered / nat passthrough settings set by the consumer firewall on each end for extending the service to empathy / pidgin and telepathy :)
[13:51] <NET||abuse> as i think there's telepathy for windows?
[13:51] <NET||abuse> maybe i'm wayyyy off?
[13:51] <islington_> The forums are back up, but I cant seem to log in. Is this the case for others?
[13:52] <fearthis> yep it is for me @ islington
[13:52] <gfather> epinky installed , thanks , but its not finding my webcam :(
[13:52] <Halitech> islington, I can log in but the posts are showing 9 hours old and not updating
[13:52] <NET||abuse> here's telepathy for mac too isn't there? Would be a great unifying cross platform desktop sharing app that would be usable by just about everyone? the technial person can maybe run a session co-ordination service from their own web server or something?
[13:53] <rubbs> NET||abuse: show my pc does that in a sense. It sets up a session with a man in the middle type system. I check up on empathy just a sec.
[13:53] <Fbian> ubuntu the best
[13:53] <Fbian> does someone know a webmail except squirrelmail. cause squirrelmail is ugly
[13:54] <epinky> gfather: that's another story, is easycam2-core.deb installed? another solution will be to install easycam-qt
[13:54] <NET||abuse> Fbian, roundcube mali
[13:54] <NET||abuse> Fbian, it's AWSOME and ajaxy :)
[13:54] <islington> thanks Halitech
 thnx man
[13:54] <xrandr> Fbian: there's plenty. Horde mail, dot ail...
[13:55] <hever> hello. gdmsetup gives me only two config options. How can I activate the action menu in gdm to configure gdm through gdm ?
[13:55] <gfather> epinky yes its installed , but it will only detect integrated cam , not usb cam
[13:55] <Fbian> reallyyyy nice thnx man!!:D
[13:55] <MTecknology> Fbian: there's roundcube and squirrelmail options; you can find skins for one but I forgot which one
[13:56] <MTecknology> epinky: so the packager missed a dependency? meaning they chose not to run a test before uploading..
 thnx i already made my descission!:P i love roundcube
[13:56] <Fbian> its soo nice!
[13:56] <rubbs> NET||abuse: Empathy doen't work outside of a Unix environment, so windows is a no go... but I may have found something
[13:57] <NET||abuse> oooooho
[13:57] <epinky> gfather: don't know which cam you're using but maybe Mercurial is needed
[13:57] <fearthis> anyone want to  help me setup lm sensors?
[13:57] <rubbs> NET||abuse: http://vnc2me.org/
[13:57] <NET||abuse> me like the sound of "something"
[13:57] <NET||abuse> rubbs, ahhhh, ok
[13:57] <rubbs> NET||abuse: it's not perfect, but I'm at least able to get some more refined searches. I'll keep looking because I could use a solution to this too to be honest
[13:57] <Nayballs> Can anyone link me on what to do, after you've installed windows after you installed ubuntu - I seem to have lost my GRUB it's not even showing up anymore not even error 15. Also auto super grub. isn't working for me
[13:57] <Fbian> what do you mean it doesnt work outside unix? it is a web-mail isnt it?
[13:58] <NET||abuse> rubbs, hmm, if they've done it right, might get the effect i need essentially.
[13:58] <MTecknology> !grub | Nayballs
[13:58] <NET||abuse> Fbian, wasn't talking about web-mail..
[13:58] <caprajax> anyone able to help me to install firefox addons in ubuntu 9.10, FF 3.5.5
[13:58] <gfather> epinky im using a d-link cam , whats Mercurial ?
[13:58] <NET||abuse> Fbian, talking about empathy / telepathy,
[13:58] <grawity> Fbian: Empathy = GNOME's official IM client. So far, Unix-only.
[13:59] <bro> guys, how can i configure video on ubuntu 9.10? there's no more xorg.conf
[13:59] <YellowIndie> Help me people, I wanna change my monitor to default 1400x900 but this size  doesn't shows up in System>Preferences>Display. I tried <xrandr addmode output VGA 1400x900> but its not working.
[13:59] <NET||abuse> rubbs, the telepathy component is available to pidgin as a plugin also? and is telepathy not distributed in a form for windows?
[13:59] <zend_fan> Does anyone know how to enable xdebug ? I have it installed and showing in phpinfo
[13:59] <YellowIndie> bro: Something similar here, I wanna configure my screen resolution
[14:00] <Halitech> bro, YellowIndie sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf then you can edit it and add what you need
[14:00] <rubbs> NET||abuse: http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Windows
[14:01] <rubbs> NET||abuse: doesn't look like it's full-feature or distrubted as a binary yet
[14:01] <NET||abuse> hmm, but's it's not beyond possability ;)
[14:01] <bro> Halitech, thanks, it works man
[14:01] <hever> where is the gdm config stored? I can't change the theme....
[14:01] <NET||abuse> rubbs, just wondering what it would take to create a nice system capable of nat traversal etc..
[14:02] <NET||abuse> rubbs, the first cross paltform solution to be as usable as GTAssist
[14:03] <rubbs> NET||abuse: yeah, I've been looking for something like that too.
[14:03] <NET||abuse> ohh,, you could so call it that and have a defensible possition against trading off claims from citrix for GoToAssist... GTAssist = Graphic Terminal Assist
[14:03] <NET||abuse> screw their trademark : )
[14:03] <NET||abuse> i'd just like to see telepathy deliver somethign that awsome
[14:03] <rubbs> NET||abuse: me too
[14:04] <NET||abuse> hmm, what would i have to learn to contribute to that project ;)
[14:04] <rubbs> NET||abuse: I'm going to keep looking. I'll let you know what I can find.
[14:04] <epinky> gfather: it's about drivers repositories, is your webcam well installed? I know it's in other language but maybe you can check there some useful steps: http://mundolinux.portalmundos.com/como-instalar-webcam-en-ubuntu-linux/
[14:04] <NET||abuse> rubbs, seriously cool dude.. yeh, please.
[14:04] <rubbs> NET||abuse: not sure, you could go to #telepathy and find out
[14:04] <NET||abuse> i'm just readint hat freesoftware.org page
[14:04] <fearthis> anyone want to help me ?
[14:04] <zend_fan> Does anyone know how to enable xdebug ? I have it installed and showing in phpinf
[14:04] <NET||abuse> fearthis, !dontask
[14:05] <YellowIndie> halitect - :(, not happening, can you help me with xrandr . I just wanna change my screens resolution
[14:05] <grawity> \!fail | NET||abuse
[14:05] <NET||abuse> hmm, hehe
[14:05] <rubbs> NET||abuse: np, I want to find a solution too
[14:05] <fearthis> but i need help lol
[14:05] <Halitech> YellowIndie, wish I could but I've never done anything with xrandr
[14:05] <islington> just ask fearthis
[14:05] <NET||abuse> grawity, i don't normally blast anyone for chan rules.. and i guess thats why :)
[14:05] <Halitech> !ask | fearthis
[14:05] <islington> dont ask to ask
[14:06] <miner> I am using karmic and thunderbird v2.x. I would like to use thunderbird v3. I am not sure how to go about installing it and getting my mail into it.
[14:06] <hiend> Hi
[14:06] <YellowIndie> hi
[14:06] <islington> miner install the binary
[14:06] <YellowIndie> hailtech - :-}
[14:06] <rubbs> NET||abuse: https://www.yugma.com/
[14:06] <hiend> I want to connect to empathy without writing a password for mission-control-5th, it asks for the password whenever I want to connect
[14:06] <fearthis> well i need help with lm sensors i have done the detect but it doesnt give me the same results as what every1 else on the forums is getting so i dont know what to do next
[14:06] <rubbs> NET||abuse: check that out, I'm still looking but it looks promising.
[14:07] <grawity> miner: One way is to install from Mozilla's PPA <https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa>. Another - official build from <http://ubuntuzilla.sf.net/>
[14:07] <Halitech> fearthis, your results will depend on your hardware, might not look like everyone elses
[14:07] <grawity> miner: No matter which way you install it, it'll use the exact same profile as older versions.
[14:07] <NET||abuse> rubbs, hmm, actually, isn't there a company called dimdim that do some kinda free online session thing....
[14:07] <miner> grawity: thanks for the tip. Is the ppa the best way?
[14:08] <naoshige> does ubuntu have like one file
[14:08] <Fbian> thnx guys!
[14:08] <naoshige> where you can set everything from system config to network config
[14:08] <naoshige> wait
[14:08] <grawity> miner: It probably is... dunno. (I don't use neither Ubuntu nor Thunderbird.)
[14:08] <rubbs> NET||abuse: haha just found that too
[14:09] <cime> hi! I have set up a statis IP for my network card in /etc/nerwork/interfaces ... but now I have to manually enter nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf after every reboot... how do I set them so they stay in /etc/resolv.conf?
[14:09] <NET||abuse> Fbian, hehe,, don't know what we did, but I know, we're awsome arn't we :)
[14:09] <Halitech> fearthis, can you use pastebin to show the output of sensors
[14:09] <NET||abuse> rubbs, ;)
[14:09] <Xeli> Is there a way to install emdebian-tools on jaunty?
[14:09] <naoshige> here's freebsd's rc.conf - the file where you can configure most of your system settings - http://pastie.org/737241
[14:09] <fearthis> Halitech yes i understand that but on every1 elses detect at the end it tells them to copy something over to a file but on mine it does i just get this http://pastebin.com/m70153711
[14:09] <naoshige> does ubuntu have something similar?
[14:10] <hiend> is there any option to connect to empathy automatically without password?
[14:10] <rubbs> NET||abuse: https://www.webhuddle.com/
[14:10] <rubbs> NET||abuse: similar to the others
[14:10] <NET||abuse> just activated my yugma account will check it out ;)
[14:11] <naoshige> here's freebsd's rc.conf - the file where you can configure most of your system settings - http://pastie.org/737241
[14:11] <BluesKaj> I tried lucid , but it breaks X and when I tried to fix org.conf and restart X , it kept looking for X in /usr/bin .. wth ?
[14:11] <naoshige> does ubuntu have something similar?
[14:11] <cime> anybody know how to set nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf permanently?
[14:11] <Fbian> someone knows if i can install roundcube with postfix and dovecot? cause the website doesnt say anything about that...
[14:11] <alankila> naoshige: the files under /etc/default, I guess.
[14:11] <Halitech> fearthis, looks like you already had the file, run sensors and see what it gives for an output
[14:11] <naoshige> much obliged alankila
[14:11] <NET||abuse> rubbs, yarg.. .bin file to install for yugma
[14:11] <naoshige> oh yeah
[14:11] <fearthis> No sensors found!
[14:11] <fearthis> Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
[14:11] <fearthis> Try sensors-detect to find out which these are.
[14:11] <naoshige> nice..
[14:12] <rubbs> NET||abuse: yeah it's not open source. The dimdim one is though.
[14:12] <MTecknology> Fbian: the web ui doesn't care what your system is running
[14:12] <MTecknology> Fbian: it just conects over imap/smtp
[14:12] <Halitech> fearthis, did you run it as sudo?
[14:12] <NET||abuse> rubbs, does dimdim do full screen sharing or is it just for a web presentation idea/
[14:12] <fearthis> no i will try now
[14:12] <fearthis> same thing
[14:13] <NET||abuse> rubbs, wondering what the danger of installing all 3 and trialing them all is :)
[14:13] <Fbian> oke thnx, im gonna try it when im home! too bad though its not opensource
[14:13] <NET||abuse> Fbian, what's not open?
[14:13] <spywarePOP> my remote controls "back"-key is "Shift+Ctrl+Alt+%" in ubuntu, is there anyway i can bind "Shift+Ctrl+alt+%" to "backspace" ?
[14:13] <Halitech> fearthis, what motherboard do you have?
[14:13] <limpc> %?
[14:13] <limpc> as in 5 or as in mac %?
[14:14] <fearthis> gigabyte ex-58-ud5
[14:14] <spywarePOP> %
[14:14] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[14:14] <rubbs> NET||abuse: not sure about screen sharing, looking now. I don't think trialing all three would be bad. They all seem to have decent reviews
[14:14] <spywarePOP> i tried bind the button in ubuntu shortcuts, and it say shift+ctrl+alt+%
[14:14] <NET||abuse> hmm, the yugma does allow the host to remote control the guest's pc :)
[14:14] <NET||abuse> rubbs, so that's a feature that i need.
[14:14] <Halitech> fearthis, might be a case that it doesn't have any supported sensors
[14:14] <epinky> fearthis: check wich sensor you have: sudo sensors-detect sensord
[14:15] <rubbs> NET||abuse: looks like it does, I'm playing around with it now, but I haven't got it to work quite yet.
[14:15] <Finnish> I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed, but this page says I need to have Adobe Flash installed: http://www.acusticaudio.net/modules.php?name=Forums
[14:15] <Finnish> What to do about it?
[14:15] <rubbs> NET||abuse: caveat: I'm also working from a win machine right now :( I know it sucks.
[14:15] <ubuntunewbie> Hi , I need help on setting up google DNS.I saw a thread on ubuntu forum but i dont understand how to change DNS since I am using a router
[14:15] <ubuntunewbie> Any help guys ? thanks
[14:15] <Fbian> roundcube is not opensource is guess
[14:16] <MTecknology> !info roundcube
[14:16] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, http://portforward.com/routers.htm
[14:16] <MTecknology> Fbian: if it's in universe it needs to be open sourced..
[14:16] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, nevermind, thats for forwarding
[14:17] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, what router do you have?
[14:17] <fearthis> Halitech http://pastebin.com/m78df20ca
[14:17] <Fbian> oke thnx man, i pretty new to this sorry! =)
[14:17] <NET||abuse> rubbs, i have a vista desktop and ubuntu laptop(with vista in a vbox) so i'm mixed environment too
[14:17] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: I mean it can't set up using ubuntu ? need to go through router ?
[14:18] <rubbs> NET||abuse: yeah, I'm at work so I have no choice. long story
[14:18] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: wrt54g
[14:18] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: linksys
[14:18] <NET||abuse> rubbs, :)
[14:18] <Fbian> !info dimdim
[14:18] <cew_cr> cow' kerenz....
[14:18] <Halitech> ubuntulog, ideally it would be better to do it at the router, do you know the IP address of the router?
[14:19] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: 192.168.1.1
[14:19] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: I still dont get it , how do I do it ?
[14:19] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, ok, open a browser and go to that address
[14:19] <rubbs> NET||abuse: http://www.yuuguu.com/home found another one, I'm still looking at dim dim, but it's actually hard to find out what it actually does
[14:20] <cew_cr> babi.........
[14:20] <mattgyver> anybody having problems logging into the forums today?
[14:21] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, http://www.corenetworkz.com/2009/08/how-to-enter-dns-settings-in-linksys.html
[14:21] <MTecknology> mattgyver: #ubuntuforums
[14:21] <rubbs> NET||abuse: you know what, i don't think dimdim does desktop sharing. :(
[14:21] <mattgyver> MTecknology, thanks, didnt know that existed and the topic answered my question :)
[14:21] <NET||abuse> rubbs, yeh, i think i evaluated dim dim about a year ago and came to that conclusion.. that's why i htink i remembered them.
[14:22] <bradpitt> !language > cew_cr
[14:22] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: my router got  Static DNS 1:  ,  Static DNS 2: ,  Static DNS 3:  , WINS .All are empty
[14:22] <assad> i am using koala but my ubuntu one is not working. it says capabilities mismatch! how can i make it work?
[14:23] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, so enter the info that you have from google on the dns numbers to use
[14:23] <fasta> !java
[14:24] <rubbs> NET||abuse: Web huddle does though.
[14:24] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: Do I need to reconnect my internet connection ? how to check I had successfully connected to google dns ?
[14:24] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, probably will need to restart the router
[14:25] <coldReactive42> wtf
[14:25] <wlada> hello! I have troubles with KK 9.10, nautilus today went mad, it's not possible work normally on my PC. Nautilus can't connect to ftps, open folder, flashdiscs.... anybody have idea what's going on?
[14:25] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech:  how to check I had successfully connected to google dns ?
[14:25] <coldReactive42> Did anyone see this?
[14:25] <coldReactive42> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8473401#post8473401
[14:25] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, log into the router again and check to make sure the entries are still there
[14:26] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: ok thanks , now restart my router
[14:27] <skx_> What is the minimum required kernel for karmic?  I've got a machine which fails to boot 50% of the time with karmic running 2.6.27.41 - seems to have udev issues
[14:27] <coldReactive42> err
[14:27] <coldReactive42> karmic I think has x.x.31
[14:28] <skx_> right I see that from the release notes. I just wonder if there is a definitive minimum version - I know udev sometimes requires specific min versions
[14:28]  * skx_ has no clue about upstart/other system daemons.
[14:28] <coldReactive42> worksforme (tm)
[14:30] <rreyes> Hi all... how do I troubleshoot video hardware acceleration? I am not able to enable it
[14:30] <Halitech> rreyes, what video card do you have?
[14:30] <rreyes> I have a Radeon Mobility 3450
[14:30] <rreyes> ATI
[14:30] <tarzeau> any hints on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/485709 ?
[14:31] <Halitech> rreyes, any drivers you can enable in hardware drivers?
[14:31] <isolat3dsh33p> rreyes: Install proprietary driver?
[14:31] <rreyes> Halitech: Yes... FGLRX appears to be disabled, but I can't enable it
[14:32] <rreyes> and I just installed the proprietary drivers from ATI website
[14:32] <Plouj> hi
[14:33] <rreyes> When I try to activate FGLRX, I enter my password, but nothing happens
[14:33] <Plouj> for some reason /etc/profile.d/* or /etc/profile isn't being sourced in my terminals, what gives?
[14:33] <isolat3dsh33p> rreyes: The one you installed maybe not suitable for the current kernel
[14:33] <Plouj> I'm using Ubuntu hardy
[14:33] <NET||abuse> rreyes, did you restart your X session? logout and log back in?
[14:33] <rreyes> NET||abuse: yes
[14:34] <isolat3dsh33p> rreyes: Reboot?
[14:34] <rreyes> isolat3dsh33p: already did that
[14:34] <priv4t3> hi
[14:35] <rreyes> I read I need to uninstall FGLRX so that ATI drivers work
[14:35] <isolat3dsh33p> rreyes: Can you give me the link where you downloaded the ATI driver?
[14:36] <rreyes> from here: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[14:36] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: restart but how do I check which DNS I had connected?
[14:36] <rreyes> Linux x86_64
[14:36] <b3rz3rk3r> hey all, can anyone reccomend an alternative to anti-static bags for moving my pc components temporarily? I need to take my RAM dow to the local pc store to get it checked to determine whether the Mboard or RAM is the issue.
[14:37] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, check the router settings and make sure they are still what you entered
[14:37] <Halitech> b3rz3rk3r, sandwich bags will work in a pinch
[14:38] <anonmatir> b3rz3rk3r: !
[14:38] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: yes it's at the status google dns1 8.8.8.4 but there are also dns2 and dns3 for my isp
[14:38] <b3rz3rk3r> Halitech, really? i thought that they would cause static build up on their own. I was thinking of wrapping it in tp, then in a sammich bag. Good plan?
[14:38] <anonmatir> b3rz3rk3r: put it in ur pocket and get on ur cycle
[14:39] <b3rz3rk3r> anonmatir, lol
[14:39] <anonmatir> i do that
[14:39] <anonmatir> ny ways.. what test u need a do?
[14:39] <Halitech> b3rz3rk3r, the tp would cause more static then the bag
[14:39] <b3rz3rk3r> anonmatir, srsly? that cant be good
[14:39] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, did google only give you 1?
[14:39] <b3rz3rk3r> Halitech, mkay, thanks, il just use a ziplock then
[14:40] <rubbs> NET||abuse: http://www.kolabora.com/news/2006/10/05/screen_sharing_tools_and_technology.htm It's kinda old, but it compares quite a few solutions. Most of which won't work on Linux but there are some in there
[14:40] <anonmatir> never had any isses for the last 10? years ??......
[14:40] <wlada> anyone has problem with nautilus in KK9.10?
[14:40] <b3rz3rk3r> anonmatir, mobo isnt detecting RAM when inserted, but is displaying all the right error codes when removed otherwise
[14:40] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: yes - DNS 1:   	8.8.4.4
[14:40] <wlada> I'm really quite desperate
[14:40] <b3rz3rk3r> anonmatir, so without another machine to test with i cant be sure whether ram or mobo is cause
[14:40] <amerinese> is there anyway to undelete a file i deleted on the command line?
[14:41] <ranjan> hello every body can any body can tell me is there any way to get executr .py script at specific time  i tried to make one for me to show up notification but ... i am not able to run it on specific time .. any help would be of great help for me to run an coustom msg i am using ubuntu 9.10
[14:41] <hever> how can I determine what keyboard my notebook uses ?
[14:41] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, if you have the google entry as number 1, it will use that one unless there is an issue, then it will go to the next one in the list
[14:41] <anonmatir> b3rz3rk3r: i face(d) that issue too at times :(\
[14:41] <rreyes> so, any ideas on how to solve the ATI problem?
[14:42] <b3rz3rk3r> anonmatir, sux huh? Im sad without my gaming rig :p
[14:42] <RottenEgg3X> Hi all!
[14:42] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: but until now , how do I test and make sure whether it's using the first DNS1 or DNS2 ?
[14:42] <Ripp_> Hello
[14:42] <NET||abuse> rubbs, hmm, will read that,, cheers ;)
[14:42] <Ripp_> Ubuntu server is telling me a system restart is required...how do I found out why it asks for this?
[14:42] <mgv1> what can i do if i cant add songbird to repesatories?
[14:42] <anonmatir> hever: repeat  i lost ur question
[14:42] <Jamed> ranjan: kind of hard to describe, you should take a loock at man cron
[14:42] <fasta> How can I get http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/projects/pairs/Applications/RayDiagram/ to work on Ubuntu?
[14:42] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, try a known address that doesn't work and see what happens
[14:42] <Jamed> ranjan: *look
[14:42] <fasta> It is a website containing a java applet.
[14:43] <anonmatir> hever: u mean if qwert or not :( ;)
[14:43] <fasta> I installed java6 already and the plugins, but I get an error when it loads.
[14:43] <priv4t3> hi
[14:43] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: ?? sorry dont it , what do you mean ?
[14:43] <anonmatir> fasta: u installed plugins for ur browser
[14:43] <RottenEgg3X> Is the Ubuntu Forum still down?
[14:43] <hever> anonmatir, now to know if I can use an existing hotkey configuration...
[14:43] <rubbs> !hi | priv4t3
[14:43] <fasta> anonmatir, yes
[14:43] <fasta> anonmatir, I get an error in the Java console.
[14:43] <llutz> ranjan: use at/atd or cron
[14:44] <fasta> anonmatir, someone reported that it did work on Java5.
[14:44] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, try something like http://thissitedoesntexist.com
[14:44] <Kacor> ubuntu-pl
[14:44] <anonmatir> fasta: java 5 new or old?
[14:44] <fasta> anonmatir, if you have no clue, do not answer.
[14:45] <anonmatir> fasta: no harm in trying right!?
[14:45] <isolat3dsh33p> rreyes: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[14:45] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: server not found
[14:45] <Halitech> fasta, works fine for me
[14:46] <fasta> Halitech, I use Karmic with a fresh sun packages.
[14:46] <MTecknology> How can I see what package installed a certain app?
[14:46] <fasta> s/a//
[14:46] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, thats what it should do, not sure if google has a custom page or not
[14:47] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: ???
[14:47] <Halitech> fasta, did you install the jre package?
[14:47] <grawity> MTecknology: dpkg -S /path/to/a/file
[14:47] <bradpitt> fasta : works fine for me also, i'm using openjdk
[14:47] <fasta> Halitech, yes.
[14:47] <MTecknology> grawity: thanks
[14:47] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, some dns servers will give a custom page when you try an address that doesn't work
[14:48] <hever> neither dmesg not lshw list my notebook keyboard. But I need to know it to configure the multimedia keys using keytouch...
[14:48] <Halitech> fasta, check about:plugins to see if its in your browser or not
[14:48] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: hm i have no idea about that.I wanted to test on google dns since browsing using isp dns is very slow
[14:49] <om26er> ubuntunewbie: i am using google dns but no effect on browsing
[14:49] <b3rz3rk3r> Halitech, about this sandwich bag idea... should i wash it first, or just rinse it or what?
[14:49] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, try some of the sites that you were seeing as slow
[14:49] <upp> i have a problem with my wif: it's very slow, but with cable it's very quick
[14:49] <ubuntunewbie> om26er: my isp running slow on browsing and viewing youtube
[14:49] <Halitech> b3rz3rk3r, if its a brand new bag then no
[14:50] <b3rz3rk3r> Halitech, alrighty, cool. thx ;)
[14:50] <krishnan> hi
[14:51] <om26er> !hi | krishnan
[14:52] <krishnan> i recently upgraded myself from ubuntu 8.04 to 9.04. I am not able to play and watch videos when i visit youtube and iam also nt able to see meebo chat widgets on websites. pls help
[14:52] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: same youtube still slow for me
[14:52] <researcher1> I did everything as suggested here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  but still cant boot from hard disk.HELP please?
[14:52] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, slow as in loading the main page or loading the videos?
[14:52] <anonmatir> krishnan: i think u need flash and java plugin for ur browser
[14:52] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: loading video
[14:52] <fasta> Halitech, the plugin _is_ loaded. I can see it loading and I see the Java console and it fails. It is also listed in about:plugins.
[14:53] <naoshige> does named (bind) come with ubuntu?
[14:53] <krishnan> anonmatir: can i install them through synaptic packet manager?
[14:53] <Halitech> ubuntulog, dns wont have anything to do with slow loading videos
[14:53] <naoshige> i dont see it in /etc
[14:53] <naoshige> or is it like in freebsd where it comes jailed in a sandbox in /var/named?
[14:53] <naoshige> nope not there either
[14:53] <amerinese> What is the new name for /dev/hda ?  It doesn't seem to exist.
[14:54] <naoshige> amerinese: it has a new name?
[14:54] <gzephyr> question about the ubuntu vpn.... when i turn it on it disrupts local communication... any ways to have local and vpn comunication?
[14:54] <Halitech> ubuntunewbie, what kind of speeds are you getting on your connection?
[14:54] <krishnan> gzephyr: no, you can have either local connection or VPN on.
[14:54] <ubuntunewbie> Halitech: 1mb on packages but youtube load 9kb
[14:54] <amerinese> naoshige: I don't know, I'm following a recipe for using foremost, it doesn't show up in the dev directory
[14:54] <Halitech> amerinese, probably /dev/sdX
[14:55] <naoshige> hehe
[14:55] <anonmatir> krishnan: mozilla firefox has some option for the menus on the browser window top left (file  edit... etc) u have a plugin thing there
[14:55] <amerinese> Halitech: thanks
[14:55] <NssOne> hrm
[14:55] <naoshige> /dev/sdX is the freebsd way of naming disks
[14:55] <naoshige> *hint hint*
[14:55] <wlada> Help me... freezing nautilus (I tried reinstall of nautilus packages), thunar is working... on KK9.10
[14:55] <NssOne> can't log into the forums
[14:55] <amerinese> naoshige: But this is a clean install of 9.10
[14:55] <krishnan> anonmatir: iam using google chrome for linux and iam enjoying it more than the firefox. it is lighter and fun to use
[14:55] <naoshige> oh
[14:55] <amerinese> At least I know for sure no FreeBSD
[14:55] <naoshige> best of luck amerinese
[14:56] <alankila> being better than firefox is not much of a challenge.
[14:56] <researcher1> shall repeat my question once again?
[14:56] <Halitech> naoshige, ubuntu has been using the /dev/sdX method for a few releases now
[14:56] <LuisGMarine> if I want to get started in programming, what's the best beginner language to start with?  Something that most linux programs are written in.  So in the future I can contribute code to Linux.
[14:57] <anonmatir> krishnan: do u mean chromium? i use that too because u cant access microsoft owa applications on mizilla, but do not use chromium for youtube.. well is it not unstable?
[14:57] <anonmatir> LuisGMarine: c
[14:57] <researcher1> I did everything as suggested here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  but still cant boot from hard disk.HELP please?
[14:57] <alankila> LuisGMarine: there is no one language, sadly. You should probably know C, C++ and Python to be able to deal with most common languages you are going to meet.
[14:57] <naoshige> LuisGMarine: but the coolest yet most elegant language right now is Ruby
[14:57] <LuisGMarine> lol
[14:57] <NssOne> ok, so i have an issue with the display for my ubuntu and xserver (im guessing)
[14:57] <alankila> these days some applications are written in C#, and Java is also raising its head, though.
[14:57] <krishnan> anonmatir: not chromium. iam using google chrome browser for linux.
[14:57] <LuisGMarine> I just want to help Ubuntu & Linux down the line
[14:57] <naoshige> Ruby is phasing out PHP
[14:58] <LuisGMarine> I got it down to C and C++ but haven't read on the differences between the two
[14:58] <NssOne> i have a netbook with a 1024x768 res, but i can only get ubuntu to load a low res 800x600 res for my display
[14:58] <LuisGMarine> I guess C is a good start
[14:58] <w1ngnutt_> LuisGMarine: I agree with alankila, in the languages you should learn. Python is probably the easiest place to start tho
[14:58] <naoshige> it's about to phase out Python too, but Python is a great (and similar) language so that's gonna be hard
[14:58] <naoshige> are you crazy
[14:58] <naoshige> C is HARD AS HELL man
[14:58] <naoshige> and it's ugly as f***
[14:58] <LuisGMarine> lol
[14:58] <LuisGMarine> lmao
[14:58] <LuisGMarine> soooo C++?
[14:59] <naoshige> no ruby
[14:59] <anonmatir> LuisGMarine: if that is ur first programming language .. u can try basic,gwbasic, qbasic a try
[14:59] <naoshige> in the future everything will be written in ruby
[14:59] <anonmatir> why not perl?
[14:59] <LuisGMarine> so start learning ruby
[14:59] <naoshige> anonmatir: why should he even bother learning languages that are 30 years old?
[14:59] <LuisGMarine> lol
[14:59] <naoshige> ruby is phasing out perl too
[14:59] <naoshige> perl is overly complex
[14:59] <krishnan> anonmatir: not chromium. iam using google chrome browser for linux.
[14:59] <naoshige> the only people who still stick with stuff like perl, php, python and what not are people who've spent a great deal of their lives learning them
[14:59] <Sacho> !offtopic
[15:00] <alankila> I think ruby is probably on its way out. It's still not even installed by default on any system I know.
[15:00] <naoshige> and their egoes prevent them from opening their minds to the real world
[15:00] <naoshige> ruby is new
[15:00] <Milos_SD> I'm trying to get Intel Wireless 2200BG to work, but without luck. It is a wireless on old IBM ThinkPad T42p laptop. I'm alweys geting ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Reseting.
[15:00] <alankila> in contrast, perl and python *are* installed by default. That tells something about how likely you are going to meet ruby.
[15:00] <naoshige> there are already os'es written only in ruby
[15:00] <Milos_SD> Can someone help me fix that? :S
[15:00] <IdleOne> !ot | naoshige
[15:00] <Milos_SD> and offcorse, eth1 interface isn't ready
[15:01] <LuisGMarine> sorry didn't meant to get you guys in trouble
[15:01] <naoshige> ruby also represents the future of modern web development (the whole rails + merb merging..)
[15:01] <LuisGMarine> I'll start with Python
[15:01] <naoshige> np LuisGMarine
[15:01] <naoshige> just glad to help
[15:01] <naoshige> LuisGMarine: after all this stuff i told you?
[15:01] <LuisGMarine> wait who's pro ruby
[15:01] <LuisGMarine> lol
[15:01] <naoshige> i am
[15:02] <alankila> LuisGMarine: python is a fine language. No language I know is best for beginner -- C is simple, but too easy to crash with, C++ is complex and near incomprehensible, Perl is awful, Python ... I guess I like it most
[15:02] <naoshige> alankila: but you don't know Ruby
[15:02] <sipior> alankila: naoshige: gentlemen, this is not a language-advocacy channel :-)
[15:02] <LuisGMarine> like what is Ubuntu writen in? C?
[15:03] <LuisGMarine> sorry again
[15:03] <LuisGMarine> I'll post in the forums
[15:03] <LuisGMarine> I don't want to get in trouble with the IRC Secret Police
[15:03] <jhb> Hi *. How can I get informed of any changes on the whole filesystem  - I assume inotify would run out of memory for 400k+ directories?
[15:03] <LuisGMarine> I gotta restart anyway, new kernel for 64-bit
[15:03] <LuisGMarine> thanks for the suggestions guys =)
[15:03] <scythepad> Hi can somebody please assist me with running Mono? I seem to be getting plenty of errors.
[15:04] <NssOne> the ubuntu forums are screwed
[15:04] <WeazelON> hey guys, i've re-install karmic a few days ago, and did it from an external cdrom via USB,  now for some reason, i've noticed, that ubuntu doesn't recognize my internal cdrom
[15:04] <Guest91774> hi all
[15:04] <Guest91774> i am using Compaq Presario M2000 with Ubuntu 9.10
[15:04] <researcher1> Is it possible to have someone solve online my boot failure problem ?
[15:04] <Guest91774> but i am not able to use by wireless connection
[15:05] <Guest91774> how to config it
[15:05] <fasta> A particular Java applet does work in Opera, but not in Firefox3.5. How can they even make those things not work? Java Applets exist for more than 10 years already.
[15:06] <anti_> hello
[15:06] <mcpasdgarrett> Hi all
[15:06] <WeazelON> please guys, i've re-install karmic a few days ago, and did it from an external cdrom via USB,  now for some reason, i've noticed, that ubuntu doesn't recognize my internal cdrom
[15:06] <alankila> fasta: my simple recommendation is to try and find a replacement for firefox for day-to-day activities. I think it's one of the worst browsers out there except for the many fine extensions it has.
[15:06] <anti_> parle francais ici
[15:06] <syockit> fasta: apparently we have many different Java VM, and different versions at that
[15:06] <mcpasdgarrett> Can I create a swap partition on a running system using a empty drive that is currently in the system?
[15:06] <usamahashimi> hi
[15:07] <alankila> mcpasdgarrett: yes.
[15:07] <alankila> mkswap a partition, add it to fstab, swapon -a.
[15:07] <fasta> alankila, I think Chrome on Windows is the only decent browser. Too bad it has no adblock.
[15:07] <syockit> fasta: As for one working in Opera but not in Firefox, yes I think it's a browser problem
[15:07] <fasta> Opera is nice too, but too slow, imho.
[15:07] <usamahashimi> i have install nvidia driver from repo, i am trying to set resol to 1024x768 but the nvidia-settings tool is giving error that it can not save the settings in xorg.conf
[15:07] <paolo> what ext using of ubuntu 9.10?
[15:08] <fasta> It might be that they are the only browser which actually renders the webpage like it should, but then the websites are simply too complex.
[15:08] <alankila> I believe in webkit personally. chrome is webkit-based so I guess that qualifies.
[15:08] <WeazelON> usamahashimi, run "sudo nvidia-settings"
[15:08] <mcpasdgarrett> alankila:does mkswap create a partition or just a swap file on an existing partition?
[15:08] <usamahashimi> WeazelON: yea, i did that but still its giving this error
[15:08] <paolo> why is it ubuntu karmic koala use extension4 ?
[15:08] <scythepad> Hi can anybody please assist me with running a .NET executable in wine?
[15:09] <fasta> alankila, yes, webkit is a good basis, but the various optimizations Google did do make a difference.
[15:09] <alankila> mcpasdgarrett: mkswap can do either. Partitions are just files on linux, of particular, fixed size. They are special files, alright, but still. So, mkswap can make a partition out of any file you point it to.
[15:09] <Guest91774> any help
[15:09] <naoshige> alankila: have you developed / designed anything special with python then?
[15:09] <WeazelON> usamahashimi: thats weird,  should work using sudo... maybe try to add sudo to the launcher itself or something
[15:09] <fasta> Haskell is a better Python.
[15:09] <alankila> fasta: actually, their javascript is not as good as the squirrelfish thing apple recently built.
[15:10] <mcpasdgarrett> alankila: So would there be any difference in using fdisk to create the swap partition vs using mkswap?
[15:10] <bradpitt> usamahashimi,  do you create xconfig file?
[15:10] <alankila> mcpasdgarrett: apples and oranges. mkswap can't partition anything. It can just repurpose a partition for use as swap device.
[15:10] <alankila> naoshige: some signal processing applications.
[15:10] <fasta> alankila, Javascript is a mistake of course. Why send text to the browser when you can also send bytecode?
[15:10] <naoshige> alankila: like what?
[15:10] <alankila> naoshige: I deal with audio as hobby so I've used scipy to do some scientific computing, filter design, etc.
[15:11] <naoshige> nice
[15:11] <usamahashimi> bradpitt: i used nvidia-xconfig and it created the xorg file with only display settings
[15:11] <mcpasdgarrett> alankila: So since the drive isn't partitioned I would need to fdisk it and I might as well use fdisk to make the partition a swap partition correct?
[15:11] <naoshige> yeah i work with audio too, i love it
[15:11] <naoshige> what type of filters though?
[15:11] <alankila> fasta: I disagree.
[15:11] <fasta> alankila, why?
[15:11] <naoshige> im more on the production side though - http://myspace.com/soultanisyourfriend
[15:11] <alankila> mcpasdgarrett: you misunderstand the purpose of partition type. Linux ignores it, mostly.
[15:11] <scythepad> Hi can anybody please assist me with running a .NET executable in wine?
[15:11] <naoshige> damn
[15:12] <naoshige> I wanted to show that LuisGMarine this http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PythonVsRuby
[15:12] <mgv1> ive a little problem - the ubuntu alt cd installation does not responding to keyboard
[15:12] <alankila> mcpasdgarrett: when you can flag a partition as swap partition it means nothing to the linux kernel. The filesystem on the partition is all that matters. The filesystem must be a swap filesystem -- it must contain a swap header -- that is what mkswap does for you.
[15:12] <sipior> naoshige: still not a language-advocacy channel. leave it alone.
[15:12] <mcpasdgarrett> alankila: Ah, that makes much more sense now.  Thanks much.
[15:13] <alankila> fasta: the javascript text is efficient enough. Shaders for games are uploaded as text files to the graphics driver as well. I suppose you would regard using text for that as mistake as well? I think text is a *great* API. It's accessible, simple, and frankly efficient enough.
[15:13] <naoshige> sipior: alright alright
[15:13] <usamahashimi> WeazelON: now i run the nvidia-settings as root but still its not saving in xorg file
[15:13] <fasta> alankila, well, it might be a micro-optimization.
[15:13] <usamahashimi> bradpitt: how can i correct this display problem?
[15:13] <sipior> alankila: fasta: and you two as well. let's keep things focused on ubuntu.
[15:13] <ghostlines> how to fully remove and then reinstall a package, after i reinstalled apache2 the config file map wasn't reinstalled
[15:13] <ghostlines> anyone know why this may be?
[15:13] <sj4m35-15> how do I enable 3D acceleration for a GMA940 Intel graphics chipset?
[15:14] <WeazelON> usamahashimi, could you paste the exact error you're receiving ?
[15:14] <usamahashimi> WeazelON: Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[15:15] <Safe> Can you check a NTFS disk for error from ubunu?
[15:15] <bro> safe, search for badblocks command
[15:16] <Safe> bro: Which is?
[15:16] <alankila> mcpasdgarrett: also, please take a moment to examine something called compcache or ramzswap
[15:16] <researcher1> how can I past errors ? where to generate log?
[15:16] <Safe> The check option from within gparted is suffiecent?
[15:16] <WeazelON> usamahashimi: hmmm, try-- " sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg "
[15:16] <NssOne> Hello. I'm running karmic on a netbook with a 1024x768 res, but I can only get ubuntu to load a low res 800x600 res for my display. And there is no way to change from that in the display settings. /var/log/xorg.0 says no screens found
[15:16] <alankila> it is a way to extend linux memory without swapping to a disk by having a growing ramdisk which contains compressed memory pages.
[15:16] <bradpitt> usamahashimi, when i get that error msg, i do sudo nvidia-xconfig and then gksu nvidia-settings, but i don't know if it will works for you, i'm new.
[15:16] <resno> i started something in "screen" how do i go back and close it?
[15:17] <bro> Safe: "badblocks -svn /mount_point" just have in mind that you can check only unmounted partitions
[15:17] <naoshige> how do i set stuff like named and other network services to start at startup?
[15:17] <coz_> ah oh   http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2009/12/and-so-it-begins.html
[15:17] <bro> Safe: and never use "-w" argument which is a distructive read-write method
[15:18] <bro> Safe: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_badblocks.htm
[15:18] <usamahashimi> WeazelON: i run that command, now what to do?
[15:18] <WeazelON> now try sudo nvidia-settings
[15:18] <trism> resno: screen -ls to see what instances there are, screen -r pid to reattach to it, ctrl+a \ to kill all windows (there is a way to do it without attaching it but I don't remember it off the top of my head)
[15:18] <WeazelON> and try to save it
[15:18] <researcher1> how to paste errors here?
[15:18] <grawity> researcher1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:18] <naoshige> how do i set stuff like named and other network services to start at startup?
[15:19] <naoshige> anyone?
[15:19] <resno> trism: thanks! i was going to reboot just to kill the instances. but who reboots linux?
[15:19] <naoshige> err, WHERE do i set this
[15:19] <naoshige> in what file. thanks in advance.
[15:19] <syockit> paolo: ext4 is a successor to previous default ext3, is deemed to be stable now that numerous patches have been applied
[15:19] <usamahashimi> WeazelON: ok
[15:19] <Pr302> hi all, I have a mac pro with nvidia geforce gt 120 and the apple LED cinema display and the display resolution is 1280x720. in mac os the max res is 1920x1200. I tried to install the suggested nvidia drivers but after restarting the computer I get something like tv static.. any ideas for a solution?
[15:19] <coz_> resno,   I reboot all the time :)
[15:19] <iceroot> !boot | naoshige
[15:20] <dtownhero> Pr302: how did you install the drivers?
[15:20] <naoshige> thanks iceroot!!!
[15:20] <alankila> naoshige: you generally install it, then change it in /etc/default/named to start, then do "service named start". This is how things normally are packaged.
[15:20] <paolo> syockit: thanks man
[15:20] <resno> kernel updates are the only reason to reboot right?
[15:20] <Pr302> from a menu item which looked like a PCI card
[15:20] <alankila> the file in /etc/default is likely not named because there's no package by that name, though...
[15:20] <usamahashimi> WeazelON: no, its not saving, terminal is giving error: VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf   --and this error-- Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Configured Screen Device"
[15:22] <mgv1> ive a little problem - the ubuntu alt cd installation does not responding to keyboard
[15:22] <mgv1> there is a short key for loading email images in evolution? - that bevcausw icant see the button
[15:23] <WeazelON> usamahashimi: try delete or rename your xorg.conf,open terminal and let nvidia xconfig create a new one:    sudo nvidia-xconfig         and then -- sudo nvidia-settings,  there should be no more parsing error
[15:24] <dtownhero> mgv1: I always just allow it to download all images. It will warn you if the spam messages are attempting to use cross site scripting and allow you to block it.
[15:25] <rsukumarjoe> I've a sound prob
[15:25] <rsukumarjoe> can anybody help me 2 resolve?
[15:25] <Kejk_PL> Hi, I have a problem with panels in Gnome, *every* two X starts they are replaced - top panel is at bottom, bottom panel is at top. I checked preferences, they are are ok.
[15:26] <WeazelON> usamahashimi: did it solve your problem ?
[15:26] <Kejk_PL> Update: after installing newst (190) nvidia drivers, it happens only one for 4-5 restarts
[15:26] <dassouki> i lost my menus on pidgin, gimp, eclipse, tux guitar after upgrading to 9.10. The apps wor fine, but there are no menus
[15:26] <allam> #pidgin
[15:26] <sixtila> If you were to do xml manipulation, perl or Ruby?
[15:27] <dassouki> allam: thanks for the silly reply
[15:27] <WeazelON> brb
[15:27] <maco> sixtila: python xml.dom is simple enough
[15:27] <ranjan_> hello every body can you tell me how to use gnome shedule so that it can .. execute the program which i have configured but without showing  terminal windo .. please help me
[15:27] <sixtila> cool thanks
[15:27] <alankila> dassouki: make a new user and log on into that. See if the apps work better that way.
[15:28] <alankila> That way you can isolate whether it's a configuration problem or something wrong with the system generally.
[15:28] <iceroot> ranjan_: a gui tool?
[15:28] <burkmat> Woke up to Ubuntu being stuck at 640x480. Any ideas why this sudden change of mind regarding resolution?
[15:28] <iceroot> ranjan_: or a cli-command?
[15:28] <ranjan_> ya
[15:28] <dassouki> alankila: can i do it while i'm logged in to this menu system ? or do i have to logoff and relogin ?
[15:29] <alankila> dassouki: you could try executing "adduser foo" in terminal.
[15:29] <hum_> How can I check if hw accellerator is used or not?
[15:29] <ranjan_> ice root :: i am using gui tool but it is showing an extra terminal windo .. i dont wnt to open those extra windo
[15:29] <bro> hum_, ""
[15:29] <alankila> dassouki: once you have user called foo, log on with that, once done, deluser foo and remove the vestigal home directory /home/foo.
[15:30] <ranjan_> ice root :: i am using gui tool but it is showing an extra terminal windo .. i dont wnt to open those extra windo 's which use to open  up
[15:30] <bro> hum_, "glxinfo | grep direct"
[15:30] <alankila> if it works with foo, you could try destroying your .gnome* and .gconf* directories that should eradicate all your settings. Lamentable, but that could fix it. (You can make a backup if you like.)
[15:30] <MarkMcLT_> The download link for 9.10 located at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download lists only the 32-bit version. Is there some reason for that? The documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GettingUbuntu refers to a custom options menu to select 64 bit, but as far as I can see that doesn't exist.
[15:31] <MarkMcLT_> I meant the menu doesn't exist
[15:31] <dassouki> alankila: negative, problem persists
[15:31] <error404notfound> 1. How can i start a nautilus file browser in home folder at login? what should i add to startup applications. 2. Gnome-Do keeps asking me for keyring password on every login, its same as my login password, how to make it automatic?
[15:31] <lightbricko> With Empathy, how do I view the entire IRC channel topic? Currently, the topic is truncated to fit the screen.
[15:31] <Pici> MarkMcLT_: What about the 'Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows' link?
[15:31] <grawity> error404notfound: Do you have "auto-login" enabled on Ubuntu?
[15:32] <hum_>  glxinfo
[15:32] <hum_> Error: unable to open display
[15:32] <error404notfound> grawity, yes
[15:32] <ranjan_> ice root :: i am using gnome schedule  for this purpose any idea how to prevent opening of that extra terminal windo
[15:32] <t0rc> My system is telling me it needs rebooted. Is there a way to see why from terminal?
[15:32] <hum_> bro : Thank you. Maybe I need to use X to use your method
[15:32] <iceroot> !tab | ranjan_
[15:32] <alankila> dassouki: ok. I would guess that the package manager would report something like half-installed packages or something like that. What happens if you do apt-gte dist-upgrade, does it report packages not upgraded or errors or something?
[15:32] <iceroot> ranjan_: sorry, dont know, just using cron
[15:32] <MarkMcLT_> Ah thanks, didn't see that!!
[15:32] <Starcraftmazter> is it just me or is the flash in 9.10 really buggy
[15:33] <grawity> error404notfound: That's the reason why Ubuntu cannot unlock the keyring automatically -- it doesn't know the password for it. You need to remove keyring's password (set it to a blank one).
[15:33] <om26er> Starcraftmazter: flash is not open source
[15:33] <pzn> Hi, Is jaunty=9.04 ?
[15:33] <grawity> Starcraftmazter: Flash on Linux has always been buggy as hell.
[15:33] <grawity> pzn: Yes.
[15:33] <RottenEgg3X> Anyone knows why that my video settings in Xorg does not automatically change when I set configurations on the nVidia X Server Settings??
[15:33] <om26er> Starcraftmazter: flash is properietry
[15:33] <Bob_Dole> Starcraftmazter, It's buggy.
[15:33] <grawity> error404notfound: Applications -> Accessories -> Passwords and Encryption Keys.
[15:33] <om26er> Starcraftmazter: no its not.
[15:33] <Bob_Dole> Starcraftmazter, It's buggy but we can't fix it*
[15:33] <error404notfound> grawity, to remove the password i would have to delete it and effectively losing all keys with it... right?
[15:33] <dassouki> alankila: i have to go now .. i'll be back in a bit
[15:33] <error404notfound> grawity, lemme try
[15:33] <alankila> Starcraftmazter: 64-bit linux?
[15:33] <Starcraftmazter> is it possible to go back to the version of flash which was included in 9.04?
[15:33] <Starcraftmazter> alankila: yes
[15:33] <grawity> error404notfound: You only have to change the keyring's master password.
[15:34] <grawity> error404notfound: There is no need to delete the entire keyring.
[15:34] <alankila> Starcraftmazter: if so, get rid of the flash installed by ubuntu for you and download the 64-bit alpha flash. It works really good compared to the crap ubuntu pushed for you.
[15:34] <alankila> just do it.
[15:34] <Starcraftmazter> alankila: sure thing, where can I get it from
[15:34] <alankila> adobe.com :) I dunno, google for it.
[15:34] <legend2440> RottenEgg3X: try  gksudo nvidia-settings
[15:34] <Starcraftmazter> alankila: and how do I get rid of the default one
[15:35] <alankila> the reason why 64-bit ubuntu's flash sucks is that it's 32-bit inside nspluginwrapper and that thing works very, very poorly. I had it crashing and stalling practically every second page load.
[15:35] <alankila> but I've yet to see problems with the 64-bit alpha flash.
[15:35] <iceroot> alankila: then use 64bit flash from adobe
[15:35] <alankila> iceroot: that's what I do.
[15:35] <jihedamine> 64-bits alpha flash works flawlessly for me too
[15:36] <alankila> Starcraftmazter: apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree, I think.
[15:36] <RottenEgg3X> legend2440:  ..that will be saves in Xorg automatically?
[15:36] <alankila> once you got the 64-bit flash file, drop it in .mozilla/firefox/plugins, if I remember correctly.
[15:36] <eman> can you make a deb file from a tar.gz file?
[15:36] <error404notfound> grawity, done, lemme logout and log back in to check. Btw before that can you tell me how can i add a file browser windows to open at login? i have tried adding "nautilus /home/username" "nautilus file:///home/username" in startup applications but no use...
[15:36] <alankila> eh... it's probably just .mozilla/plugins
[15:36] <RottenEgg3X> legend2440:  ..that is The settings..
[15:37] <eman> can you make a deb file from a tar.gz file?
[15:37] <resno> how do  i find my screen sessions? someone said it earlier, but i closed the window :(
[15:38] <legend2440> RottenEgg3X: when you press  Save to X Configuration File  it should write changes to  xorg.conf
[15:38] <grawity> resno: Start with 'screen --help'
[15:38] <RottenEgg3X> legend2440:  You see, everytime I boot up, I have to go to the nVideo server...  That's quite annoying! ;-)
[15:39] <RottenEgg3X> Ah I see, ok, thanks legeng2440! :-)
[15:39] <sipior> resno: screen -d -r, iirc
[15:39] <grawity> resno: Look for "reattach to a detached session"
[15:39] <kavurt> how can I restart pulseaudio
[15:40] <iceroot> kavurt: sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart   iw ould say
[15:40] <resno> grawity: sipior thanks both, im back on track :)
[15:40] <Guest79661> why can't i get streaming audio on my firefox
[15:41] <resno> Guest79661: where are you streaming from?
[15:41] <error404notfound> grawity, okay, now no applications asks me for keyring password which is great...
[15:41] <alankila> iceroot: unlikely, it's configured for per-user session. killall -TERM pulseaudio and then start any pulse-using app.
[15:41] <error404notfound> Question # 2: How to add a file browser window at login? i have tried "nautilus /home/shoaibi", "/nautilus file:///home/shoaibi/" and even "nautilus --no-desktop computer:"
[15:42] <Guest79661> my local radio station
[15:42] <Guest79661> online
[15:42] <Oddbio> I can't find a free program that will allow me to access my linux files from windows for ext4. I found some for ext2 or ext3 though...
[15:43] <ViaNocturna851> Oddbio: There used to be some for ext2 and 3 like you indicated but as far as I know and personal experience, there isn't one
[15:43] <ece> mafmamdf
[15:43] <bradpitt> Hi.. what is this error output means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/338730/ do i need to restore grub?
[15:44] <livingdaylight> have there been issues with the kernel update today? My laptop spat out: "init: unreadahead-other main process(748) terminated with status 4
[15:44] <iceroot> alankila: good to know, thx
[15:44] <livingdaylight> and now i have problems accessing my phone via bluetooth which was working before
[15:44] <Oddbio> livingdaylight: I just updated and didn't get any messages. But I haven't restarted yet.. so not sure.
[15:45] <livingdaylight> Oddbio, ok
[15:45] <ViaNocturna851> livingdaylight: I have done the update and restarted, I have not received any errors or messages and all appears fine, however since I don't use BT I don't know about that
[15:45] <alankila> hmm... signal 4 is SIGILL
[15:46] <alankila> or maybe that's just return code. I guess I'm wrong about this.
[15:46] <livingdaylight> I'm not getting bluetooth not accessing my phone issues
[15:46] <livingdaylight> error message:  Could not display "obex://[00:21:FE:A3:B6:FB]/"
[15:46] <Starcraftmazter> thanks alankila, it's much better
[15:46] <livingdaylight> ViaNocturna851, it was fine on my Desktop but that's what happened on the laptop
[15:47] <ViaNocturna851> livingdaylight: have you tried to disassociate the device and reassociate it?
[15:47] <celldweller> hi
[15:47] <alankila> Starcraftmazter: excellent. I do not understand the process by which ubuntu users got stuck with the 32-bit flash, though. Everyone must have seen how much better the 64-bit flash would have been. :-/
[15:47] <mattgyver> When mounting a share as 'mediaplayer' owned by 'mediaplayer' on my server it is showing the shared directory owned by 'bonnie' and a different group however on the server the files are owned by 'mediaplayer' any ideas?
[15:47] <livingdaylight> ViaNocturna851, no, how do i do that?
[15:47]  * om26er waits for the day when there will be no need of FLASH
[15:48] <livingdaylight> ViaNocturna851, properties and 'remove' ?
[15:48] <rsukumarjoe> anybody here?
[15:48] <ViaNocturna851> livingdaylight: If you click System > Preferences > Bluetooth, you should get a list of your devices
[15:48] <livingdaylight> and reconnect from scratch?
[15:48] <ViaNocturna851> livingdaylight: Yes try that
[15:48] <burkmat> Something screwed up my resolution, I assume some update or something played with xorg.conf. How would I go about resetting things as they were? Everything worked by default after install.
[15:48] <ViaNocturna851> livingdaylight: It's worth a shot
[15:49] <livingdaylight> ViaNocturna851, yup - thanks for the idea... working now
[15:50] <JediMaster> for some reason (maybe the recent kernel upgrade) I no longer get audio, if I modprobe snd_hda_codec_realtek everything comes back to life, any ideas why it's only just started happening? Should I just add the module to /etc/modules?
[15:50] <ViaNocturna851> livingdaylight: No problem
[15:50] <alankila> Hmm. It begins to sound like a major screw-up with the new kernel.
[15:50] <jennie> I installed gparted on ubuntu 9.04 and I want to format 1gb USb disk but getting this error , please help http://i47.tinypic.com/2cn9wz5.jpg
[15:52] <ViaNocturna851> jennie: Do you have a little switch on the side of the USB stick?
[15:52] <alankila> jennie: it sounds like a write protect bit? Does your usb stick have something like that?
[15:52] <jennie> no there is no switch at disk , its a mobile card
[15:52] <laeg> is there a a record of commands entered into terminal?
[15:52] <kahen> is there a way to force a graceful logout from gnome of another user when logged in via ssh (terminal only. no X. obviously needs sudo)
[15:53] <ThePassingShadow> Does anyone perhaps know of an app that puts two different images as two different wallpapers in Ubuntu ?
[15:53] <legend2440> laeg: in terminal type   history
[15:53] <ViaNocturna851> jennie: It sounds to me like the usb is write protected at the moment
[15:53] <laeg> history
[15:53] <laeg> legend2440: just kidding, ty :)
[15:53] <jennie> ViaNocturna851 please look at this http://i47.tinypic.com/2cn9wz5.jpg
[15:53] <Starcraftmazter> onto the next thing
[15:54] <Starcraftmazter> why is it that when i copy a URL from firefox, then shut down firefox, the URL is magically gone from the clipboard
[15:54] <ThePassingShadow> Yay StarCraft
[15:54] <Fujk> what GUI application can show me disk usage?
[15:54] <bradpitt> hi.. if i get this error output http://paste.ubuntu.com/338730/ do i need to restore grub? thanks
[15:55] <gubuntu> if i run aptitude show programname, and it shows that it is installed, does that mean that i definitely installed that program WITH aptitude? and not from source?
[15:55] <vagvaf_> fujk what do u mean by disk usage ?
[15:55] <Gwince> Fujk: Disk Utility or gparted
[15:55] <vagvaf_> check Disk Usage Analyzer too
[15:55] <HaskellLove_> what is the problem with my appache on ubuntu when i try to restart it i get this: http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=13923#a13923
[15:56] <irfan_> i have downloading problem
[15:56] <bdfoster> irfan_, what seems to be the problem
[15:56] <NesWork> my xorg seems to have memory leak... dose any one have the same problem?
[15:56] <llutz> gubuntu: it only says package is installed and known to the packagemanagement, could also be installed with checkinstall etc.
[15:57] <irfan_> when i download a file from messenger then download speed is 120 kb/s
[15:57] <HaskellLove_> I try to open a php file on ubuntu with firefox, and firefox proposes to download the file instead of executing PHP thus I suppose that the Apache configuration isn't correct ???
[15:57] <bdfoster> irfan_, that could be a number of things
[15:57] <llutz> gubuntu: it won't list apps installed via "make install"
[15:57] <irfan_> but when i downlaod any software with softwae menager then it will 8 kb/s
[15:57] <Pici> HaskellLove_: Its just a warning, its not stopping apache from actually starting.  To make the error go away, you'll need a ServerName directive outside of any of our VirtualHost blocks.  See http://stackoverflow.com/questions/708005/how-does-apache-determine-the-fqdn for more info.
[15:58] <thevishy> i am doing the update now
[15:58] <irfan_> i have this problem from few days
[15:58] <bdfoster> where do you live and what server are you using?
[15:58] <thevishy> but it seems its slowing the network which I am sharing - can we pause this or just cancel and continue later ?
[15:58] <gubuntu> llutz: so it would be safe to assume i can run apt upgrade on my machine and not worry about it breaking ?
[15:58] <HaskellLove_> Pici so why cant i open php files?
[15:58] <thevishy> i am using the update manager GUI
[15:58] <irfan_> what is this problem
[15:58] <llutz> gubuntu: yes
[15:58] <bdfoster> irfan_, where do you live and where are your servers set to?
[15:59] <Pici> HaskellLove_: Thats a different problem. Is php installed?
[15:59] <burkmat> Does anyone actually check the stability of stuff before they push the updates out?
[15:59] <gubuntu> llutz: thank you
[15:59] <irfan_> i have shere my internet
[15:59] <bdfoster> irfan_, what country
[15:59] <irfan_> but only within two PCs
[15:59] <thevishy> if the php is on your local server , yes then the problem is with ur apache server
[15:59] <irfan_> i am in pakistan
[15:59] <HaskellLove_> Pici yes, and when i open a php file with firefox instead of opening it asks me if i should save it
[16:00] <rsukumarjoe> guyz is there any way that I can grep for 2 lines at the same time in a directory?
[16:00] <Pici> HaskellLove_: Can you run: sudo a2enmod php5
[16:00] <NACH> HI
[16:00] <bdfoster> is ubuntu set up for pakistan, irfan_ ?
[16:00] <irfan_> yes
[16:00] <irfan_> i was select pakistan
[16:00] <bdfoster> as in, does it recieve updates from the pakistan server?
[16:00] <bdfoster> ok
[16:00] <evgen> q
[16:00] <mattgyver> When mounting a share as 'mediaplayer' owned by 'mediaplayer' on my server it is showing the shared directory owned by 'bonnie' and a different group however on the server the files are owned by 'mediaplayer' any ideas?
[16:01] <HaskellLove_> Pici it says: Module php5 already enabled
[16:02] <irfan_> what's ression
[16:02] <Pici> HaskellLove_: try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libapache2-mod-php
[16:02] <HaskellLove_> Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-php
[16:02] <lucas_> mattgyver: maybe the UIDs are different on server and client. The filesystem does not keep the name of the file owners, but a number. The number is translated into a name by each computer, that might have a different table
[16:03] <Pici> HaskellLove_: one moment
[16:03] <bdfoster> irfan_, unfortunatly it could be a number of things, even as simple as a bad switch somewhere down the road
[16:03] <thevishy> hello guys can I stop the update manager now and restart it using CANCEL command
[16:03] <mattgyver> lucas_, perhaps let me see what happens if i mount by the uid instead of the username
[16:03] <thevishy> can I resume later
[16:03] <bdfoster> thevishy, yes
[16:03] <mattgyver> lucas, great thought btw
[16:03] <bdfoster> yes
[16:03] <Pici> HaskellLove_: Okay. Please do: sudo apt-get purge libapache2-mod-php5 ; sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php
[16:04] <bdfoster> but it will restart completely, thevishy
[16:04] <thevishy> thanks'ok no probs
[16:04] <fearthis> aight guys does any1 know of any benchmarking software for ubuntu?
[16:04] <bdfoster> np
[16:04] <mattgyver> lucas, your absolutely right, they share the same UID number
[16:04] <lucas_> \o/
[16:04] <lucas_> cool
[16:05] <mattgyver> lucas, ive never done it but im assuming you can change a UID via usermod?
[16:05] <HaskellLove_> Pici: Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-php ------- are u misspelling?
[16:05] <Pici> HaskellLove_: Yes. I keep mispelling it. its libapache2-mod-php5
[16:05] <lucas_> you can change them editing /etc/passwd
[16:06] <mikefromnewyork> hi. if someone could help me figure out why my root login stopped working on my other computer I'd appreciate it.
[16:06] <mattgyver> lucas_, okay great.  Man thanks that was driving me nuts!
[16:06] <Fish-Face> that's a shame, I wanted to post on the forums
[16:06] <lucas_> no prob
[16:07] <trelayne> hi all, anyone have a good suggestion for an analog  clock with a hand for the seconds?
[16:07] <Fish-Face> How much RAM is required to run Ubuntu with Compiz for general desktop use (but at the heavy end of desktop use - many browser tabs open, etc)
[16:08] <sipior> trelayne: have a look at cairo-clock
[16:08] <trelayne> thanks sipior
[16:08] <johnson_b> Fish-Face: compiz more gpu needs than ram
[16:08] <lucas_> now ... I am running ubuntu and gnome. When I log in, a window pops up and says "low disk space". I would like to know where is comes from (i.e. who's checking the filesystems and showing the window)
[16:09] <ManDay> Where is configured whether some of the logs in /var/log go through logrotate or whatever compresses them!?
[16:10] <eman> can someone help me my screen is zoomed after making frets of fire not full screen
[16:10] <sipior> ManDay: the files in /etc/logrotate.d determine that behaviour
[16:10] <bradpitt> hi.. i get this error output http://paste.ubuntu.com/338730/ do i need to restore grub? thanks
[16:11] <Fish-Face> johnson_b, well that's OK
[16:11] <ManDay> sipior, i ll check
[16:11] <Fish-Face> Ubuntu runs fine except it routinely thrashes for no apparent reason
[16:11] <michael_campbell> This might be a gnome question, but is there a way to set a background image in "stretched" mode that doesn't stretch across multiple monitors?  i.e, I want it to fill the screen, but fill each monitor separately.
[16:11] <eman> im there now what?
[16:12] <inh> sometimes my mouse starts acting jerky and slow
[16:12] <michael_campbell> Fish-Face, how much RAM do you have?
[16:12] <sipior> Fish-Face: that's an interesting notion of "runs fine" :-)
[16:12] <HaskellLove_> Pici: http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=13925#a13925
[16:12] <inh> is theres osme usb module i can reload to fix it or something?
[16:12] <inh> its not using psmouse or usbhid
[16:12] <Fish-Face> michael_campbell, 1Gb
[16:12] <inh> in fact, i dunno what its using
[16:12] <ManDay> sipior, is there a setting for logrotate which simply deletes them after a while?
[16:12] <Fish-Face> sipior, that's a fair comment :P
[16:12] <ManDay> im really not interested in 2 year old dmesgs
[16:12] <michael_campbell> Fish-Face, are you seeing a lot of swap space being used?
[16:13] <sipior> ManDay: yes, look at the value of the rotate parameter in the files that correspond to the logs you want to manage.
[16:13] <Fish-Face> michael_campbell, some, but not that much - always less than 1G, and usually much less. A clean boot doesn't use any
[16:13] <ManDay> sipior, the rotate parameter determines the number of files being kept, i take it?
[16:14] <michael_campbell> Fish-Face,  I see.  Usually thrashing (in the classic sense of the word) is overly ambitious swap usage.  =\
[16:14] <Fish-Face> what worries me is that I end up with about 45% memory use, but about 50% taken up with cache. When the remaining 5% is used up, rather than immediately reaping the cache it just hits the harddrive, even with swappiness at 1
[16:14] <sipior> ManDay: yes, have a look at the man page for logrotate.
[16:14] <ManDay> thanks
[16:14] <ManDay> ill now try to get my buggy pm/suspend running
[16:14] <Fish-Face> I know michael_campbell, but I don't know how else to describe detrimental hard-drive usage when running out of memory
[16:15] <researcher1> How do I post here  the error log pasted in http://paste.ubuntu.com?
[16:15] <Fish-Face> as an experiment I disabled swap and it still locked up with constant HD activity when memory got tight
[16:15] <fearthis> aight guys does any1 know of any benchmarking software for ubuntu?
[16:15] <zutme> OK this is driving me crazy. Why won't nano wrap when I use the wrap option i.e. nano -r ? I type some text and get to the end of the line and it doesn't wrap.
[16:15] <alabd> Good day everyone , can we say all "Free software" licensed app's are open source ?
[16:15] <alabd> Good day everyone , can we say all "Free software" licensed app's are open source ?
[16:15] <michael_campbell> Fish-Face, that's sorta how it all works.  RAM is going to be slower than swap, by non-trivial measures.
[16:15] <michael_campbell> Fish-Face, I mean RAM is faster, of course
[16:15] <Fish-Face> don't you mean the other way around :P
[16:15] <Fish-Face> heh
[16:16] <michael_campbell> Fish-Face, I'm old.  =)
[16:16] <legend2440> fearthis: open Synaptic and press Search and enter  benchmark. there are quite a few
[16:16] <ManDay> wow, i get an epic load of errors in dmesg when I try to suspend
[16:16] <HaskellLove_> Pici?
[16:16] <Fish-Face> Still, it's making the computer unusable for extended periods of time
[16:17] <fearthis> legend cheers
[16:17] <Pici> HaskellLove_: And? Does it work now?
[16:17] <Fish-Face> last time I rebooted after 15 minutes of thrashing. All I opened was Pidgin and Skype, and had 55% (or so) memory used for caches, so no shortage at all
[16:17] <HaskellLove_> well i open with firefox and still asks me if i should save it or ... does not open php content
[16:18] <Jesper84> Anybody here with a Asus 1005HA ?
[16:18] <legend2440> fearthis: if you make sure you have the  Universe  repo enabled you will get more hits
[16:19] <Fish-Face> so I don't have any idea why I should suffer a slowdown due to full memory when some of it is in caches
[16:19] <Pici> HaskellLove_: hm
[16:19] <fearthis> yer i found a few legend2448 just got to test them out
[16:19] <Fish-Face> I tried writing '3' to /proc/sys/vm/drop_cache and the amount of cached memory didn't drop
[16:20] <legend2440> fearthis: okgood luck  i havent tried any of them yet myself
[16:20] <Codenut> I am having trouble ftp'ing from my XP box to my Ubuntu Box via my 192.168 Class C domain. It says the connection was refused. Any thoughts?
[16:20] <Pici> HaskellLove_: Can you try to : sudo a2enmod php5; sudo service apache2 restart
[16:22] <RottenEgg3X> ..
[16:22] <HaskellLove_> Pici http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=13927#a13927
[16:23] <Codenut> How do I allow ftp into my Ubuntu box from my home network?
[16:24] <Tomcat_ha_> hi
[16:24] <Tomcat_ha_> im trying to get my webcam working
[16:24] <Tomcat_ha_> in 9.10 with skype
[16:25] <Tomcat_ha_> and so far nothing
[16:25] <Tomcat_ha_> ive found this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam#Before%20attempting%20any%20drivers%20installation
[16:25] <Tomcat_ha_> and ive tried getting easycam
[16:25] <Codenut> I want to get inbound ftp enabled on my Ubuntu box
[16:25] <Tomcat_ha_> adding the sources and the terminal says it wont allow it to be installed due to something with the python packages
[16:26] <lzrdking> i installed mono but all sites that need silverlight still say i need to install it, except for mono's site that says i already have the latest version
[16:26] <Tomcat_ha_> im getting a garbled green screen when i press test video
[16:26] <Pici> HaskellLove_: Does /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf exist? And do its contents look like this? http://pastebin.com/f5f58f08a
[16:27] <souch13> hey guys, linux noob here, wondering if someone can give me a hand with patching and .tar.gz files?
[16:28] <grawity> souch13: Just ask your actual question.
[16:28] <lzrdking> how do i get mono working?
[16:28] <HaskellLove_> Pici yes
[16:29] <Pici> HaskellLove_: And /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load exists as well?
[16:30] <souch13> well i'm running ubuntu 9.10 and i have a spacecam 120 and it's not plug n play, so i need to find a "driver" for it, i looked on the interent and found a patch for it, and also a file which ended in .tar.gz, so i wanted to know how i'd go about getting it to work
[16:31] <nibbler_> souch13, in general i'd advise you to only buy hardware with good ubuntu (general linux) support, so you wont hve the problem
[16:31] <HaskellLove_> Pici yes
[16:31] <dAlfa89_> souch13, unpack it?
[16:32] <Pici> HaskellLove_: I'm really not sure what to suggest at this point.  We've gone through all the troubleshooting that I can think of.  Perhaps someone else has an idea.
[16:32] <nibbler_> souch13, if you need 3rd party drivers, you most likely need to learn how to compile kernel modules. in th etar.gz there should be an instruction
[16:32] <bradenn> keep getting errors when trying to register for Ubuntu forum. What do I do?
[16:32] <souch13> well im not sure where i should start, do i need to unpack a tar.gz file 1st and then install it followed byt the patch or what?
[16:33] <CShadowRun> bradenn: i think they are broken, i see people talking about it in other channels. Wait and try again later.
[16:33] <Fish-Face> How much bandwidth should I get to swap space? When I get thrashing vmstat -1 reports < 2000 kB each line
[16:34] <sal_> bradenn- i think they are down, i was having issues earlier ..
[16:35] <lzrdking> anyone know how to get mono working in ubuntu?  the mono install site says i have the latest version installed but all silverlight webpages still want me to install silverlight
[16:36] <nibbler_> souch13, untar it and look for a file called README and INSTALL in the archive
[16:37] <bradenn> Any chance getting help w/ ubuntu install here? Burned disc for 9.10. It will boot from cd fine on one machine, but boot hangs up on another (the one I want to install on!) CD drive set as #1 in boot order already.
[16:37] <nibbler_> souch13, and it wont be that easy, so maybe consider getting a better supported cam for like $10
[16:37] <zoug> anyone know how to install multiple dependencies(deb) from a single directory? i manually need to install each one of them :(
[16:38] <_bt> zoug: sudo dpkg -i *.deb  ?
[16:38] <Gummi_> anyone know how to post threads in ubuntuforum.org?
[16:38] <zoug> ah..but there are many debians in that directory. i want just a single app
[16:38] <zoug> and its depen
[16:39] <GRiD> hey folks, on a fresh server install of karmic, GRUB is hanging at "GRUB Loading." ... just stops. any pointers? i can't find anyone else with this issue on karmic
[16:39] <Gummi_> GRiD, check if grub is pointing towards correct kernel (that exists) on the correct partition
[16:40] <CaptainMorgan> GRiD, did you confirm that installation device (cd) has no defects?
[16:40] <bradenn> Gummi: forums seem to be down right now
[16:40] <zoug> its been many hours since they are down
[16:40] <GRiD> Gummi_, almost positive as this is a fresh install. i'll double check CaptainMorgan, I haven't run that option from the CD, but I've used this CD on another server just fine.
[16:41] <syn-ack> wait, so the Ubuntu Forums are down? :P
[16:41] <syn-ack> I'm just kidding, I can read a topic! :P
[16:41] <benchik> hello
[16:42] <Pici> syn-ack, Gummi_, bradenn: The forums are having issues, their admins are aware. You can await confirmation that they're up in #ubuntuforums
[16:42] <souch13> might be making progress here, i found out my webcam runs on the n9c102 module
[16:42] <benchik> is there a vpn client for ubuntu that is as user friendly and easy as windows 7/vista has?
[16:42] <syn-ack> Pici, I was kidding. :P
[16:42] <Gummi_> Pici, thank you, I just wondered why some people are still able to post
[16:42] <legend2440> souch13: according to this  the Spacecam 120 works out of the box  did you try it with  cheese?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[16:42] <moreia> So I'm not crazy 'bout those forums.
[16:42] <syn-ack> Pici, I know that they'll be up when they're up
[16:42] <souch13> so i installed a application called sonic snap, http://www.stolk.org/sonic-snap/
[16:42] <souch13> but it says i need a kernel driver?
[16:43] <sal_> bradenn/ can you boot your other machine normally and run the install from a liveCD?
[16:45] <bradenn> sal: liveCD works fine on the same machine that boots from cd, but not on the other. I do get to the first set of windows and when I try to run the cd boot helper, it crashes. Get permission errors
[16:46] <benchik> anyone knows about vpn?
[16:46] <dalfz> is there some offline files functionality in ubuntu for nas storage?
[16:46] <jeph> Hi All, anyone got a sha1sum for ubuntu-9.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso ?
[16:47] <lzrdking> can anyone help me with moonlight?  the moonlight webpage says i have the latest version installed, but any webpage that uses silverlight still wants me to install it
[16:47] <sal_> bradenn are you doing a clean partition or sharing space with other OS?
[16:48] <sal_> bradenn desktop, laptop?
[16:48] <mielo> italian chat
[16:48] <dAlfa89_> !it | mielo
[16:48] <zoug> jeph: i can help u
[16:49] <ubuntubrokenraid> hi folks, i have a raid 1 setup on karmic ubuntu.  its across two drives where /dev/md0 is /root and /dev/md1 is /home.  ubuntu *was* complaining that it couldnt mount /dev/md1 (/home)..., so i booted into live cd and ran 'sudo fsck /dev/md0' and 'sudo fsck/dev/md1' and i see: 'The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2"... in addition when i try to boot up, i see the ubuntu logo and nothing happens
[16:49] <ubuntubrokenraid>  :(.  ideas?
[16:49] <bradenn> sal: want to just do a clean partition, but I have xp operating on the machine at the moment. Is there a problem with just trying to install over windows os. do i need to reformat hd manually first?
[16:49] <moreia> I have a potentially problematic question, and I realize this is the kind of thing you're supposed to mess with only after you really understand it but I have a lot of loose partitions on my new Thinkpad, as a result of ... whatever. I just do. I'd really like to wipe the partitions that are extraneous so I can use that space.  Fdisk output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/338777/ and then df output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/338775/
[16:49] <jeroth> Quick question: what is the fastest way to get the wireless driver I am currently using?
[16:49] <zoug> jeph: oops sorry i dont have the rc version
[16:50] <lzrdking> !moonlight
[16:50] <moreia> I'm trying to figure out whether the partition flagged "boot" in gparted is really my boot partition. I'm pretty sure it isn't.
[16:50] <lzrdking> ahh there we go, apparently i didn't have the plugin....
[16:51] <jeroth> Quick question: what is the fastest way to get the wireless driver I am currently using?
[16:51] <jeph> Anyone? where did the rc iso's go? where did the SHA1sums go?
[16:51] <sal_> it could be causing issues, but i wouldn't expect so.  maybe try an older version if you have one, just to get the partition clear.  otherwise it could be a hardware issue.  but since you're getting permission msgs, maybe something w/ XP
[16:52] <philipp_> is there a way to uninstall pulseaudoi without loseing the entire gnome?
[16:53] <philipp_> is there a way to uninstall pulseaudoi without loseing the entire gnome?
[16:53] <zoug> jeroth: i think you can copy files which are shown on synaptic, by selecting your wireless driver.(if u installed from synaptic)
[16:53] <souch13> i've managed to unpack a .tar.gz file, and now the contents include a makefile, changelog, kbuild and several other files
[16:54] <souch13> how do i go about getting these files installed/
[16:54] <dAlfa89_> !compile | souch13
[16:54] <philipp_> is there a way to uninstall pulseaudoi without loseing the entire gnome?
[16:54] <grawity> souch13: Start by reading a file named "README" (or "INSTALL", or both).
[16:54] <philipp_> is there a way to uninstall pulseaudoi without loseing the entire gnome?
[16:54] <Pici> !repeat| philipp_
[16:54] <souch13> no readme or install :(
[16:55] <philipp_> is there a way to uninstall pulseaudoi without loseing the entire gnome?
[16:55] <Pici> philipp_: Stop repeating.
[16:55] <zoug> souch13: usually a configure/make/make install does the job
[16:55] <souch13> 5. Driver installation
[16:55] <souch13> [16:55] <souch13> As noted above, kernel 2.6.19 is the minimum for this driver; for it to work
[16:55] <souch13> properly, the driver needs kernel support for Video4Linux and USB.
[16:55] <Guest51441> whats wrong with pulseaudio?
[16:55] <FloodBot2> souch13: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <cole__> hi all, i just install kopete messenger, however i have to run it with sudo kopete otherwise i cant sign into my accounts nor can i create an account, could this be a permissions issue where i need to change the apps permissions?
[16:56] <lividium> my laptop (gateway lt3103u) battery is not working in ubuntu 9.10, is any suggestions on troubleshooting/fixing?
[16:57] <legend2440> jeph: here are the  sha1sums  but i think the rc (release candidate) were replaced when the final came out   http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/
[16:57] <grawity> cole__: Maybe Kopete's configuration directory is owned by root for some reason? (Happens sometimes...) Check if you have a ~/.kopete/ or ~/.config/kopete/
[16:57] <bradenn> sal: Where can i find older (than 9.10) releases of full install iso for download? I think it may be a hardware issue. saw that livecd requires 348 MB
[16:57] <grawity> cole__: Or, I think it's ~/.kde/kopete/
[16:57] <bradenn> and i only have 256
[16:58] <jeroth> zoug: "sudo lshw" worked for me. Thanks though! :)
[16:58] <MrNaz_yma> ok, so i have my NAS showing up in gigolo, ive managed to get smb set up on it and connecting... its showing up in gigolo... however, when i click "open in file manager" nothing happens... how do i map the share to a local mount point ?
[16:58] <bradenn> sal: would alternate install be worth trying?
[16:58] <zoug> how can i "grep" through bunch of debs so that i can install only the selected app and its depen?
[16:58] <sal_> bradenn are you installing to a low memory machine - that could be your problem .. in which case you should try an older distro, i think they may only need 256
[16:58] <philipp_> is there a way to uninstall pulseaudoi without loseing the entire gnome?
[16:59] <zoug> jeroth: oh..i thought you wanted the files.
[16:59] <cole__> grawity: i have a .kde directory in my home dir but its owned by root
[16:59] <lzrdking> mono worked for a second
[16:59] <lzrdking> moonlight*
[16:59] <grawity> cole__: Hmm. What is your Ubuntu sername?
[17:00] <sal_> bradenn i have had luck w/ alternates.  maybe also worth upgrading your ram if you can ..
[17:00] <zoug> jeroth: lspci is another way
[17:00] <grawity> cole__: username*
[17:00] <jeroth> zoug: nah, just needed which driver version I was using.
[17:00] <jeroth> zoug: ah thanks! :)
[17:00] <cole__> grawity: shane
[17:00] <deserteagle> cole__, sudo $USER $USER ~/.kde
[17:00] <grawity> cole__: Right, so do 'sudo chown -R shane:shane ~/.kde'
[17:01] <deserteagle> err, yeah -R
[17:01] <deserteagle> how do I test the output of php files?
[17:01] <deserteagle> i installed php and apache, i still can't figure it out
[17:01] <zoug> can anyone help me? anyone good with scripting
[17:01] <hdtdi> deserteagle, localhost/index.php ?
[17:02] <grawity> zoug: What is the problem?
[17:02] <deserteagle> hdkiller, Forbidden
[17:02] <zoug> grawity: how can i "grep" through bunch of debs so that i can install only the selected app and its depen?
[17:02] <Jamed> deserteagle: mv yourfile.php /var/www/index.php and connect to localhost with your bowser
[17:02] <cole__> grawity: that worked thanx muchly, your a star :)
[17:02] <lubes> ola all
[17:03] <philipp_> you guys just suck
[17:03] <lubes> !list
[17:03] <hdtdi> deserteagle, im not really sure but try change the privileges on that file or /var/www dir
[17:03] <deserteagle> Jamed, by "connect" you mean I just have to type localhost?
[17:03] <Jamed> deserteagle: yes
[17:03] <marion_> deserteagle: include php_info() on any phpfile.
[17:03] <grawity> deserteagle: Where have you put the PHP file?
[17:03] <moreia> deserteagle: do you have error logging turned on? There might be clues there.
[17:03] <lividium> my laptop (gateway lt3103u) battery is not working in ubuntu 9.10, is any suggestions on troubleshooting/fixing?
[17:04] <deserteagle> grawity, /var/www
[17:04] <grawity> deserteagle: What are the permissions of the file and directory?
[17:04] <zoug> lividium: and it works in windows?
[17:04] <hdtdi> yeah not privileges - permissions :D hehe
[17:04] <hdtdi> ma mistake
[17:04] <lividium> zoug: yes
[17:05] <Tomcat_ha> meh
[17:05] <Tomcat_ha> ubuntu locks up on me all the time
[17:05] <lividium> zoug: well it did... windows is not on this machine any more
[17:05] <zoug> lividium: weird, supposed to be a hardware problem
[17:06] <slabbeh> lividium, I had that problem and a BIOS update fixed it
[17:06] <zoug> lividium: may be battery had its time. :D
[17:06] <lividium> zoug: it is only a few months old
[17:07] <souch13> i think i managed to install the driver for my webcam, and i am now trying to launch the app that it runs on, called sonic snap, found it in my usr/bin/sonic snap but now the app won't execute or open
[17:07] <sal_> bradenn look here http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[17:07] <slabbeh> lividium, try a BIOS update
[17:07] <zoug> as slabbeh said, try for a BIOS update
[17:07] <slabbeh> lividium, I am assuming you have taken it out and re-seated it
[17:07] <lividium> slabbeh: I was thinking that but I have never done one before
[17:07] <slabbeh> its generally really easy on newer computers
[17:08] <slabbeh> old ones were a bit horid
[17:08] <lividium> I will have to give that a try
[17:08] <zoug> lividium: try to take it out and insert it again
[17:08] <deserteagle> i changed the permissions on /var/www, but still get "Forbidden"
[17:08] <slabbeh> lividium, what happens if you boot to live CD?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> there used to be a keypad process to kill an app , but I've forgotten it
[17:09] <deserteagle> in the terminal?
[17:09] <deserteagle> killall -9 NAMEOFPROGRAM
[17:09] <grawity> deserteagle: What were the permissions, and what did you change them to?
[17:09] <BluesKaj> it brought up a skull&crossbones icon , that one used to close a stubborn app
[17:09] <lividium> slabbeh: not sure... it is a net book and I no longer have a external cd drive
[17:09] <trijntje> Hi all, since karmic my sound gives a loud crack jest before it start playing. I already removed the powersafe option from alsa-base.conf to no avail
[17:09] <Jamed> deserteagle: is it a freshly installed apache, or did you change the config?
[17:09] <deserteagle> fresh
[17:10] <jk-cheng> hi there...
[17:10] <slabbeh> BluesKaj, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts ??
[17:10] <deserteagle> grawity, u+x
[17:10] <lividium> zoug: re-seating the battery didn't help
[17:10] <sal_> bradenn you may be able to get an alt hardy 8.04.3 lts going, then you'll be able to direct upgrade to lucid in april
[17:11] <slabbeh> lividium, do you know how to go into the BIOS settings?
[17:11] <mahngiel> i had to reinstall (go figure) windows, and i lost my access to grub
[17:11] <jk-cheng> i got some question here; 1) Karmic login using GDM??? 2) Splash screen use splashy or usplash???
[17:11] <zoug> lividium: can you turn on your netbook when on battery?
[17:11] <piojunbabia> hi, how do i install java programming in karmic? we use java programming in school but i dont know how to install it... thank you....
[17:11] <grawity> jk-cheng: 1) GDM 2) usplash
[17:11] <zoug> lividium: that is before you boot to ubuntu
[17:12] <grawity> piojunbabia: Install "java programming"? :|
[17:12] <piojunbabia> yes
[17:12] <lividium> slabbeh: yes, I can't find any power options in the BIOS
[17:12] <piojunbabia> its jdk right?
[17:12] <slabbeh> lividium, can you get into BIOS while running on battery?
[17:12] <lividium> zoug: I cannot boot from battery
[17:12] <marion_> deserteagle: how about changing the permission to 777 first, just to try it out.
[17:12] <trijntje> Hi all, since karmic my sound gives a loud crack just before it start playing. I already removed the powersafe option from alsa-base.conf to no availWhat else can I do to fix this?
[17:12] <grawity> piojunbabia: ...yeah, it's jdk.
[17:12] <Jamed> deserteagle: try "php /var/www/index.php" paste the error if any
[17:12] <slabbeh> lividium: then it is not a ubuntu issue
[17:12] <slabbeh> lividium, it is either hardware or BIOS
[17:13] <zoug> lividium: than its probably something wrong with your battery, for sure
[17:13] <piojunbabia> grawity: but how?
[17:13] <zoug> lividium: or BIOS
[17:13] <NET||abuse> hmm, empathy, if i join an xmpp chat room,, is there a way to do what pidgin did, saving the connection to always be open, keeping open in the background, and being alerted when there's activity or your name is mentioned?
[17:13] <deserteagle> marion_, already did, still nothing
[17:13] <piojunbabia> !java
[17:13] <grawity> piojunbabia: I think you need sun-java6-jdk
[17:13] <souch13> souch13@souch13-desktop:/usr$ sonic-snap
[17:13] <souch13> Cannot open '/dev/video0': 28, No space left on device
[17:13] <souch13> souch13@souch13-desktop:/usr$ sonic-snap gui
[17:13] <souch13> Usage: sonic-snap gain=0.5 normalize=1 autogain=0 compression=1 count=1 skip=1 prefix=sonicsnap device=/dev/video0
[17:13] <FloodBot2> souch13: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:13] <mnaines> How do I create a Live USB stick with persistence?
[17:14] <piojunbabia> grawity: there is a need to download jdk?
[17:14] <petsounds> trijntje,  same problem here
[17:14] <lividium> zoug: I will check my BIOS version, thanks for your help
[17:14] <marion_> deserteagle: that's weird . . tsk
[17:14] <mahngiel> how do i access grub after windows' bootloader over-wrote it?
[17:14] <lividium> slabbeh: I will check my BIOS version, thanks for your help
[17:14] <trijntje> mnaines, use the slide-bar in usb-creator to set how much space you want for persistence
[17:14] <slabbeh> lividium, no problem
[17:14] <deserteagle> Jamed, Fatal error: Class 'Dispatcher' not found in /var/www/app/webroot/index.php on line 89
[17:14] <zoug> lividium: good luck with that!
[17:14] <trijntje> petsounds, also tried the alsa-base fix?
[17:14] <legend2440> BluesKaj: i think i know which one you mean  in terminal type  xkill   is that it?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> legend2440, no . it's sort of like ctrl,alt,bkspc , but not quite
[17:16] <zoug> BluesKaj: you can use pkill
[17:16] <petate> Hi... i have installed Ubuntu 8.0.4 LTS Server and an ethernet card Realtek 8169. Everything works fine until i changed my router to an Dlink DIR 300 and i can't connect to internet. It can't negotiate with DHCP neither static ip. I tried to upgrade the ethernet drivers, but i have problems with the "make". Any help please?
[17:16] <legend2440> BluesKaj: oh ok
[17:16] <petsounds> trijntje, no. really looking forward for the solutions
[17:16] <BluesKaj> maybe it doesn't exist anymore , it worked in 8.10 iirc
[17:17] <mnaines> trijntje: I want to create a live USB stick with other distributions, not just Ubuntu
[17:17] <b0n1> hi guys
[17:17] <Jamed> deserteagle: well at least its readable, so i cant explain the forbidden, but since php outputs an error i think it wouldnt work anyway
[17:17] <bradenn> sal: thanks a ton for the advice. I found a thread that indicated someone with a similar problem (but hanging at a different point) had success when using 8.04. I will try 8.04, 8.04 alt, and 9.10 alt and see if one works. should I start with 8.04 alt?
[17:17] <b0n1> can i ask questions about internet in generell here?
[17:17] <b0n1> or whats the best channel to ask such stuff
[17:17] <trijntje> petsounds, commenting out the "options snd-hda-intel power_save" line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf should work, but it doesnt for me..
[17:18] <Jamed> deserteagle: maybe you should try a simple php script that prints one line or something like that
[17:18] <mahngiel> b0n1: u can always ask, and someone may be able to point you in the right direction, at least
[17:18] <piojunbabia> java editor in ubuntu is called eclipse is that right?
[17:18] <trijntje> mnaines, i dont know about that, sorry
[17:18] <deserteagle> Jamed, yeh, that's what I was thinking
[17:18] <b0n1> my actual question is whether the first 7 digits of the ip identify the router uniquely
[17:18] <sal_> bradenn if you have enough memory, try the regular one first, otherwise the alt uses less ram during install.
[17:18] <jess_nc> hieeee
[17:18] <b0n1> because if i reboot my rooter i have a new ip but the seven first digits stay constant
[17:18] <piojunbabia> !javaprogramming
[17:19] <mahngiel> b0n1: i think the mac address is constant, the ip comes from your provier - if i'm correct
[17:19] <d3c3p710n> b0n1, that could be the DSLAM or BRAS you are on that has that IP range assigned to it at the ISP
[17:19] <zoug> piojunbabia: you can either use eclipse or netbeans
[17:19] <b0n1> woho d3c3p710n  can you repeat that for a noob ?
[17:19] <piojunbabia> netbeans...
[17:19] <mahngiel> b0n1: you should be able to gain a static ip address from your provider
[17:19] <teddymills> if i want to do configure..make/make install...do Ubuntu do this? Or do I need to install some development stuff?
[17:20] <sal_> bradenn if you use 8.04, you can upgrade directly to 10.04 later.  if you use 8.10 or 9.04, you'll have to upgrade through each of the release sequentially
[17:20] <GiZzY1> teddymills: try omgz, it has make
[17:20] <b0n1> mahngiel,  what identifies my router in the internet ?
[17:20] <b0n1> the first 7 ip digits ?
[17:20] <piojunbabia> zoug: i found eclipse in software center. is is automatic that i have java jdk?
[17:20] <AmokPaule> Hello, is if i dl ubuntu hardy automaticly an lts version?
[17:21] <JediMaster> how do I enable the maradns service to start at boot? update-rc.d maradns defaults says the links already exist, but it doesn't start on boot, and starts up fine by hand
[17:21] <b0n1> can i let traces vanish just by rebooting my router ? no , i think that would be too easy
[17:21] <zoug> piojunbabia: you just choose any IDE and all dependencies will install itself
[17:21] <mahngiel> b0n1: i don't know. i'm not sure it is id'd. i think your router allows you to connect to the ISP, and your comp's mac and such are which gives you permission
[17:21] <petate> Hi... i have installed Ubuntu 8.0.4 LTS Server and an ethernet card Realtek 8169. Everything works fine until i changed my router to an Dlink DIR 300 and i can't connect to internet. It can't negotiate with DHCP neither static ip. I tried to upgrade the ethernet drivers, but i have problems with the "make". Any help please?
[17:21] <petate> Sorry, i had ignore for channels xD
[17:21] <petsounds> trijntje,  i can see alsa-base.conf with gedit, what should i do now?
[17:21] <b0n1> ISP ?
[17:22] <teddymills> so your saying ubuntu 910 out of the box  can compile source code with configure/make/make install, correct?
[17:22] <piojunbabia> zoug: so installing eclipse will work just fine?
[17:22] <mahngiel> b0n1: internet service provider. i.e comcast
[17:22] <zoug> piojunbabia: yeah, prettty much
[17:22] <dtownhero> petate: that is most likely an issue with your router
[17:22] <piojunbabia> zoug: thank you..
[17:22] <dtownhero> petate: are you using Comcast and a cable modem?
[17:23] <petate> dtownhero: Comcast? I live in Chile
[17:23] <thafreak> petate: I would agree with dtownhero
[17:23] <b0n1> ok admins of a website can see who connects on it right?
[17:23] <b0n1> they can see the ip
[17:23] <JediMaster> nm, seems it's a bug in the startup script
[17:23] <dtownhero> Oh, Chili...
[17:23] <dtownhero> well are you using a cable modem or dsl?
[17:23] <petate> dtownhero: dsl
[17:23] <dtownhero> have you configred your router for PPOE?
[17:23] <hc> Hi! I can't mount my HFS+ hard drive on my server. It's not journaled, but it still won't mount as rw
[17:23] <b0n1> can he identify my router due to the ip or what ever his datas are he can see ?
[17:23] <laeg> is there a way other than setting each individual program manually to use alsa to get simultaneous sound?
[17:23] <hc> Any suggestions?
[17:23] <b0n1> i think yes
[17:23] <piojunbabia> !dsl
[17:23] <legend2440> teddymills: to compile you may need to install   build-essential  its not installed by default
[17:24] <petate> dtownhero: my dsl is password protected, i can only use my router for DHCP
[17:24] <teddymills> thx legend...good to know
[17:24] <richart> is it best to have a separate /boot partition for GRUB (dual-boot)? how big should it be?
[17:24] <teddymills> 100M
[17:24] <dtownhero> petate: when you configure the ethernet adaptor for dHCP do you get an address?
[17:24] <hc> I can't mount my HFS+ drive. Not journaled, tried with "mount -t hfsplus -o rw", mount shows it as RW, but I can't write to the hard drive. Any suggestions on how to fix this?!
[17:24] <dtownhero> petate: and can you ping the gateway for that address?
[17:25] <b0n1> anyway what do the first 7 digits of my ip tell me ?
[17:25] <zoug> piojunbabia: let me know if it works
[17:25] <b0n1> the location of my router and all  that?
[17:25] <d3c3p710n> b0n1, its the just the IP Range that your ISP has purchased, thats it
[17:25] <piojunbabia> zoug: sure, its still in progress
[17:25] <laeg> is there a way other than setting each individual program manually to use alsa to get simultaneous sound?
[17:25] <b0n1> ok
[17:25] <dtownhero> d3c3p710n: that is not true if he is pulling an address from his router it has nothing to do with the ISP.
[17:25] <zoug> piojunbabia: okai
[17:26] <teddymills> Where does all the money goes that ARIN recieves?
[17:26] <petate> dtownhero: no... no connection, no ping... it says... DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8...15...  No DHCPOFFERS received.
[17:26] <mahngiel> still looking for somebody with some answers... i've lost the ability to boot grub, straight into windows
[17:26] <b0n1> d3c3p710n,  i understand, but if it stays the same after a reboot of the router , one cn identify my router just by knowing the first 7 digits right?
[17:26] <petate> With Windows works fine, the problem is with ubuntu
[17:26] <mahngiel> *i go straight into windows
[17:26] <kane77> hi, I have a problem.. my computer seems to be restarting on boot right where grub should be displayed, how can I find out what is wrong?
[17:27] <zoug> mahngiel: what's your problem?
[17:27] <nonix4> mahngiel: boot with live/install cd to rescue mode
[17:27] <dtownhero> petate: what you just gave me makes me think that this adaptor is not actually set to dhcp because of the fact that it would not know the subnet addressing scheme of the DHCP server
[17:27] <b0n1> i mean if my isp allows me those ips, no other router can have these
[17:27] <dtownhero> until it received an IP
[17:27] <mahngiel> nonix4: and that will reinstate grub over windows' boot loader?
[17:27] <zoug> mahngiel: install grub from live cd?
[17:27] <dtownhero> b0n1: your ISP is not configuring the IP's that your router gives out. Unless the router is provided by the ISP.
[17:28] <mahngiel> zoug, nonix4: i had to reinstall windows, and it over-wrote the boot loader. so now i don't have access to grub
[17:28] <nonix4> mahngiel: need to reinstall grub from livecd... think there must be some howto around on how all the chroot should be done, unless rescue mode has a menu item for that
[17:28] <_Pb> does anyone here use dwm?
[17:28] <mahngiel> nonix4: alright, i'll look into it. thanks
[17:29] <zoug> mahngiel: yeah, i got that. boot from live cd and install grub, if karmic u need karmic live cd
[17:29] <petate> dtownhero: Is set to DHPC Server, my Windows computers works fine, the unbutu server is not... i would like to upgrade the eth drivers.. but i have problems with the make
[17:29] <b0n1> but the isp allows me only a specific range dtownhero
[17:29] <mahngiel> zoug: ya, i got that
[17:29] <mahngiel> zoug: ya, i got that (cd)
[17:29] <b0n1> and it allows no other router that range or any ip in that range to mind double ips
[17:29] <richart> is it best to install ubuntu first the windows, or the other way? only have 1 hard disk
[17:29] <b0n1> right?
[17:29] <petate> dtownhero: *** make /lib/modules/2.6.24-24-server/build: No suck file or directory. Stop
[17:29] <petate> dtownhero: i installed g++, gcc, build essential
[17:29] <d3c3p710n> dtownhero, if the IP is assigned to the router by the ISP then yeah it does, and if he is using DSL then the DSLAM and also on Cable the UBR will maintain a record of his equipment in the host table, the IP of the router is ASSIGNED by the ISP , the internal ip such as 192.168.x.x is assigned by the router, to answer your question b0n1 if you are on dynamic IP then yes, other people can also obtain them IP address if you are not using them
[17:29] <d3c3p710n>  and release them, but the isp will maintain a record of who had which IP at which time, i know this because i work for a ISP
[17:30] <d3c3p710n> the first 7 digits etc are not your range or your property, more likely your ISP just owns that range
[17:31] <beinghuman> .
[17:31] <beinghuman> I screwed the dual booter program up and I need to reinstall it from the live CD
[17:31] <beinghuman> anyone have any instruction on how to achieve this?
[17:32] <b0n1> ok d3c3p710n  if i dont have a router just a modem
[17:32] <zoug> beinghuman: karmic?
[17:32] <b0n1> the part of the router falls apart and the ISP is doing everything ?
[17:32] <beinghuman> zoug: I don't know what that means
[17:32] <d3c3p710n> b0n1, same principle applies
[17:32] <nonix4> http://pingusays.blogspot.com/2009/11/reinstalling-grub-in-karmic-koala-910.html  <-- sounds a bit risky to my ears, any safer instructions for grub-2 reinstall around?
[17:32] <joshjtl> hi all, I need to fix my touchpad setup... right now the scroll is in the middle of the pad instead of the right... i have a dell inspiron 1525 ... can anyone direct me to directions please?
[17:32] <zoug> beinghuman: which ubuntu version?
[17:32] <beinghuman> 8.10
[17:32] <petate> thanks anyway... bye
[17:32] <b0n1> the modem gives me an internal ip and the ISP gives the modem an ip
[17:32] <zoug> beinghuman: boot a live cd
[17:32] <beinghuman> already did
[17:32] <zoug> beinghuman: install grub
[17:32] <beinghuman> that's it?
[17:32] <dtownhero> petate: I'm confused as to why you are trying to upgrade your drivers.
[17:33] <beinghuman> that's the command?
[17:33] <beinghuman> "install grub"?
[17:33] <dtownhero> petate: the card worked until you upgraded the router. What does that tell you?
[17:33] <nonix4> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:33] <dtownhero> that the card is fine, the problem is with the router.
[17:33] <zoug> beinghuman: sudo grub
[17:33] <b0n1> right d3c3p710n ?
[17:33] <petate> dtownhero: that ubuntu has some problem with my router
[17:33] <dtownhero> no, your router is misconfigured or your card is not actually DHCP
[17:33] <dtownhero> since you told me it is looking for a 255.255.255.255 subnet
[17:33] <beinghuman> okay I sudo grug
[17:33] <beinghuman> grub
[17:34] <beinghuman> now what
[17:34] <dtownhero> it would not know the subnet until it obtains an address from the router
[17:34] <petate> aaahh
[17:34] <haresh> hahawhats the command to move a dir
[17:34] <nonix4> I'd recommend "method 3" as listed on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 for most grub reinstallation cases
[17:34] <zoug> beinghuman: find /boot/grub/stage1
[17:34] <leaf-sheep> haresh: Use nautilus if you have to ask that question. :(
[17:34] <petate> ok, thanks
[17:34] <piojunbabia> petate: have you tried to reinstall?
[17:34] <petate> i will think what to do
[17:34] <petate> yes...
[17:34] <petate> i tried reinstall and 9.10
[17:34] <dtownhero> why would he need to reinstall?
[17:34] <zoug> beinghuman: what does it say?
[17:35] <dtownhero> you guys are missing the obvious
[17:35] <piojunbabia> petate: and did not work?
[17:35] <leaf-sheep> haresh: "mv --help"
[17:35] <beinghuman> file not found
[17:35] <dtownhero> the card worked BEFORE he installed the router. It is not a problem with the card.
[17:35] <petate> But i don't understand, why windows works and ubuntu is not
[17:35] <piojunbabia> petate: who have dual boot?
[17:35] <beinghuman> zoug: the issue is, I need to get back to my window installation
[17:35] <dtownhero> I'll let you two flounder around since you're not listening. :s
[17:35] <beinghuman> i formatted the drive and it screwed it
[17:36] <beinghuman> i formatted the drive with ubuntu
[17:36] <beinghuman> and I don't have my windows CD to repair the MBR
[17:36] <zoug> beinghuman: you formatted the whole drive?
[17:36] <beinghuman> zoug, yes
[17:36] <petate> But can you answer me that? Why the difference between OS?
[17:36] <beinghuman> forgetting that grub was on there
[17:36] <petate> please
[17:36] <beinghuman> now I can't get to my windows installation
[17:36] <zoug> beinghuman: well, thats bad..this things come in "recovery"
[17:36] <zoug> beinghuman: so you need to recover all your HD
[17:36] <beinghuman> i could fix it easily if I had my windows CD
[17:37] <beinghuman> to repair the main boot record
[17:37] <piojunbabia> petate: you booting 2 OS? win and ubuntu?
[17:37] <beinghuman> no no no no
[17:37] <beinghuman> my windows is on another drive
[17:37] <beinghuman> the boot was just on the ubuntu drive
[17:37] <beinghuman> which i cleared
[17:37] <beinghuman> now I need to fix the MBR to get me back to windows
[17:37] <Pici> !enter
[17:37] <petate> piojunbabia: No, i have 3 computers... two with windows and one with ubuntu 8.0.4 lts server
[17:37] <zoug> beinghuman: can i see your fdisk -l output?
[17:38] <joshjtl> hi all, I need to fix my touchpad setup... right now the scroll is in the middle of the pad instead of the right... i have a dell inspiron 1525 ... can anyone direct me to directions please?
[17:38] <piojunbabia> petate: these three are routered?
[17:38] <beinghuman> zoug: I don't see anything
[17:38] <petate> piojunbabia: yes
[17:38] <zoug> beinghuman: sudo fdisk -l
[17:38] <beinghuman> nothing
[17:39] <piojunbabia> petate: the two wins can connect and ubuntu(server) cant?
[17:39] <petate> piojunbabia: right
[17:39] <zoug> beinghuman: gparted?
[17:39] <beinghuman> what could I do with gparted?
[17:39] <piojunbabia> petate: have you tried to connect with ubuntu desktop?
[17:39] <zoug> beinghuman: partition manager
[17:40] <petate> piojunbabia: noup... and if works, how can i fix my server?
[17:40] <lat> When I try to start evolution email client, a small window pops up saying "Enter password for the default keyring to unlock." Since I don't know the password, I can't enter it, and my computer is locked up. I have to reboot.  How can I fix this?
[17:40] <zoug> beinghuman: i need to see all your drives and partitions, or else if you can tell it all at once..
[17:40] <beinghuman> it doesn't show anything
[17:41] <petate> piojunbabia: i looked in google a few guys with the same problem, but no solution.
[17:41] <beinghuman> zoug: ^
[17:41] <petate> =/
[17:41] <zoug> beinghuman: you are on 8.10 live?
[17:41] <UF-Gast134> hey sind hier paar deutschsprachige ubuntu user on?^^
[17:41] <beinghuman> zoug: yes
[17:41] <llutz> !de | UF-Gast134
[17:41] <Oli``> Is it possible to wake Ubuntu from suspend with a USB device (in my case a USB game controller)?
[17:42] <piojunbabia> petate: sorry i havent tried server... but in my case. i am using desktop - ubuntu and my sister upstairs is using laptop winxp and there is no clash in our router
[17:42] <joshjtl> uhh anyone?
[17:42] <zoug> beinghuman: strange
[17:42] <petate> i will try
[17:42] <zoug> beinghuman: can you just please tell all your partitions and drives? no output is needed..
[17:42] <piojunbabia> petate: its worth trying.... whether sucessful or not
[17:43] <beinghuman> here's the thing that might make this easier
[17:43] <iceroot> Oli``: thats part of the bios, not ubuntu
[17:43] <petate> piojunbabia: thank you
[17:43] <beinghuman> whatever fixmbr did on the win XP recovery disk
[17:43] <beinghuman> that's all I need
[17:43] <piojunbabia> petate: np
[17:43] <beinghuman> i've did this before that's what did it
[17:43] <iceroot> !enter | beinghuman
[17:43] <beinghuman> but I lost the win XP recovery disk
[17:43] <beinghuman> sorry
[17:43] <beinghuman> i will not adhere to that
[17:44] <piojunbabia> zoug: 23% ecplipse in progress,, this must be a big file....
[17:44] <IdleOne> beinghuman: you need to because it is the rule.
[17:44] <zoug> beinghuman: ah, you are installing a windows bootloader. you cant do this with grub as far as i know. grub installs grub with options of ubuntu and windows..doesnt install windows bootloader
[17:44] <IdleOne> beinghuman: by using enter the way you are you are adding to channel scroll
[17:44] <maverick_> can someone help me with permission denied error on code::blocks (GCC)
[17:45] <zoug> piojunbabia: hang on tight!
[17:45] <iceroot> maverick_: post the correct error-message and what you did
[17:45] <piojunbabia> zoug: yes
[17:45] <iceroot> !paste | maverick_
[17:45] <paolo> ciao
[17:45] <beinghuman> zoug: so I just need to install grub from the live CD?
[17:46] <Alinn> Hi
[17:46] <genu> Hey...I can't get my computer to connect to the wifi. It uses WPA-PSK .... And that is not an option in Network manager. Can I have some assistance please.
[17:46] <zoug> beinghuman: that way you wont get your windows bootloader back
[17:46] <maverick_> iceroot: just a second
[17:46] <MaT-dg> how can I open IRC links in firefox with xchat?
[17:46] <Alinn> How to set  DNS for a connection?
[17:46] <iceroot> MaT-dg: right click on them?
[17:46] <zoug> beinghuman: decide if you want grub to handle your OS's or windows..
[17:46] <beinghuman> i don't care what I get as long as I can get back into windows
[17:47] <iceroot> beinghuman: #windows
[17:47] <warriorforgod>  Alinn: vi /etc/resolv.conf
[17:47] <haresh> is gOs good ?
[17:47] <MaT-dg> iceroot: right?
[17:47] <zoug> beinghuman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[17:47] <warriorforgod> haresh: I don't think gOs is out yet.
[17:48] <jk-cheng> what is the latest kernel for jaunty???
[17:48] <IdleOne> beinghuman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub this should help you get grub installed and able to boot windows
[17:48] <haresh> i am currently looking at it
[17:48] <haresh> u try go google serch for gOs
[17:48] <iceroot> jk-cheng: 2.6.28-15
[17:48] <arand_> genu: WPA-PSK is the same as "personal" which should be an option in NM...?
[17:51] <maverick_> iceroot: http://paste.debian.net/53669
[17:51] <zoug> IdleOne: he had windows bootloader before this. he doesnt have stage1
[17:51] <warriorforgod> haresh: I stand corrected.  I haven't personally used it.
[17:51] <icyj> Mat-dg:  hold down Ctrl and left click the link
[17:51] <beinghuman> fdisk doesn't return anything, though
[17:51] <zoug> beinghuman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[17:51] <zoug> beinghuman: install grub
[17:51] <beinghuman> zoug: did that
[17:51] <MaT-dg> icyj: that's the same as a normal left click but in a new tab
[17:51] <beinghuman> I did sudo install grub... it's just a screen with grub>
[17:51] <paolo> !list
[17:51] <zoug> beinghuman: you read the instructions on the link i gave
[17:51] <zoug> beinghuman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[17:51] <beinghuman> i don't know if it's sda3
[17:51] <beinghuman> sda3 or what have you, i don't know this because fdisk doesn't return anything
[17:51] <jk-cheng> still in that old kernel... really in the junction here, stay with karmic and face interface problem or back to jaunty face Ethernet problem...
[17:51] <maverick_> iceroot: i googled for help, but i couldnt get something that would help
[17:51] <zoug> beinghuman: try this one: sudo apt-get install fdisk     or   try sudo fdisk..its supposed to work
[17:51] <beinghuman> zoug: find /boot/grub/stage1 doesn't return anything
[17:51] <Alinn> warriorforgod: how to i do this? i add these in Windows: preferred DNS server: 217.218.155.104 ---Alternate DNS server: 4.2.2.4  in ubuntu????
[17:51] <iceroot> Alinn: sudo vim /etc/resolv.conf  write there the nameservers
[17:52] <warriorforgod> Alinn: What iceroot said.
[17:52] <grawity> iceroot: editing resolv.conf is pointless when NetworkManager is active.
[17:52] <beinghuman> zoug: doesn't work
[17:52] <genu> arand: it didn't work...it keeps asking me for the password a few times, and then it just goes into an unconnected state
[17:52] <iceroot> grawity: hm, network-manager == nm-applet?
[17:52] <llutz> Alinn: edit dhclient-config
[17:52] <grawity> iceroot: nm-applet is only the GUI
[17:53] <zoug> beinghuman: follow true_friend on that
[17:53] <iceroot> grawity: ok
[17:53] <beinghuman> zoug: oh i see something
[17:53] <zoug> beinghuman: has same problems as you have
[17:53] <beinghuman> zoug: yes he couldn't find the file so yeah
[17:53] <maverick_> grawity: sudo gedie /etc/network/interfaces
[17:53] <synapsys> *gedit
[17:53] <maverick_> *grawity: sudo gedit*
[17:53] <grawity> maverick_: Won't work with NetworkManager either.
[17:53] <synapsys> *gksu gedit
[17:53] <iceroot> !gksudo | maverick_
[17:54] <maverick_> iceroot: thanks, was always confused with that :D
[17:54] <synapsys> echo echo echo
[17:54] <synapsys> graphical = gksu        terminal = sudo
[17:54] <Alinn> iceroot: llutz say edit dhclient-config
[17:54] <jk-cheng> how to change GDM theme in karmic...
[17:54] <jk-cheng> the login screen option not allow me to change the GDM theme...
[17:54] <Sacho> On jaunty, the network connections manager applet adds wireless connections as "connect automatically" whenever I try to connect to one from the list of currently available
[17:55] <Sacho> Is there a way to make it not add them as "connect automatically"?
[17:55] <m4rk> how do I restore the 9.10 login prompt back to so it doesn't show a list of possible users and asks you to enter the username instead?
[17:55] <maverick_> grawity: try editing the interfaces file to suit ur needs, then restart networking by sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:55] <MIchael1> hey, can I get help on here about joining the ubuntu forum web site ?
[17:55] <Pici> MIchael1: forums support is in #ubuntuforums
[17:55] <grawity> maverick_: I think you're replying to the wrong person
[17:55] <MIchael1> thankyou
[17:56] <maverick_> grawity: maverick_: Won't work with NetworkManager either.
[17:56] <m4rk> sorry i got it
[17:56] <neerose> my web cam is not working can any one help me
[17:56] <m4rk> neerose what is not working
[17:57] <hdtdi> i have a windows vista box and a box with ubuntu.. how can i see the vista desctom from my ubuntu box.. i need a vnc server and client.. and i have to install the server on vista and the client on ubuntu right? but which one should i use ?
[17:57] <neerose> my laptops web cam and wifi
[17:57] <maverick_> grawity: oops sorry hehehe, didn´t follow that properly..
[17:58] <maverick_> can someone help me with a codeblocks permission denied problem? http://paste.debian.net/53669
[17:59] <Tina-> any tool to edit grub2 enteries, grub-update not wants to add my sabayon , it said found gentoo base install tho but it made no line for it :(
[17:59] <neerose> i am using MSI  CR400  model laptop and iam having problem wit web cam and wifi
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[17:59] <neerose> i am using MSI  CR400  model laptop and iam having problem wit web cam and wifi can u help me
[18:00] <McRibz> hi - anyone able to help me with my sound? USB headset is buggy and the sound settings in generala
[18:00] <neerose> i am using MSI  CR400  model laptop and iam having problem wit web cam and wifi can u help me can any one help me
[18:00] <McRibz> are acting strange
[18:00] <jpds> !repeat | neerose
[18:00] <neerose> i am using MSI  CR400  model laptop and iam having problem wit web cam and wifi can u help me
[18:00] <neerose> i am using MSI  CR400  model laptop and iam having problem wit web cam and wifi can u help me
[18:00] <neerose> i am using MSI  CR400  model laptop and iam having problem wit web cam and wifi can u help me
[18:00] <FloodBot2> neerose: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <piojunbabia> neerose: i wish i could but i cant
[18:00] <synapsys> neerose, need to know your wireless chipset
[18:01] <joshjtl> anyone?  after i add a .fdi file to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ how do i enable it so that i can test it?
[18:01] <arand_> genu: /j #freenode
[18:01] <zoug> maverick_: chk permissions, that file is not +x
[18:01] <arand_> genu: sorry ignore that
[18:01] <Tina-> joshjtl: restart hal
[18:01] <joshjtl> oh yeah thanks Tina-
[18:01] <Tina-> joshjtl: so logout and go to a shell
[18:01] <jk-cheng> my laptop build-in mic not working... my laptop model is Acer Aspire 4535..
[18:01] <zoug> maverick_: your dir should be rx too i guess
[18:01] <opticon> with ubuntu im unable to ping other pcs on my network with name but if i use ip it works?
[18:01] <joshjtl> Tina-: how about just hald restart?
[18:01] <maverick_> zoug: i changed the permissions of the codeblocks binary to a+w, i have no idea what x means
[18:02] <maverick_> zoug: can you please tell me how can i do that??
[18:02] <Tina-> joshjtl: i think X would not like that
[18:02] <haresh> guys any one knwo which alarm clock is good which i can use mp3 as my wake up tone ?
[18:02] <synapsys> eXecute
[18:02] <joshjtl> Tina-: worked fine
[18:02] <zoug> maverick_: x means executable
[18:02] <opticon> any ideas?
[18:02] <McRibz> anybody up for helping me with USB headset and alsa?
[18:02] <synapsys> r= read w= write x=execute
[18:02] <maverick_> zoug: ohh..let me try that, and about the directory, how can i do that?
[18:02] <opticon> only things i have removed are the mdns client and firewall ubuntu comes with thats enabled
[18:03] <synapsys> haresh, alarmclock
[18:03] <zoug> maverick_: let me know your partitions fstab entry from /etc/fstab
[18:03] <cornucopic> Would any kinds soul help me with grep-dctrl ?
[18:03] <haresh> how to install ?
[18:03] <McRibz> no hlp with usb and alsa??
[18:03] <synapsys> haresh, sudo apt-get install alarmclock
[18:04] <haresh> eading state information... Done
[18:04] <haresh> E: Couldn't find package alarmclock
[18:04] <synapsys> haresh, it might be alarm-clock
[18:04] <maverick_> zoug: http://paste.debian.net/53671
[18:04] <opticon> so nobody here knows?
[18:04] <synapsys> haresh, aptitude search alarm
[18:05] <kroni> sorry guys
[18:05] <haresh> p   kalarm                          - KDE alarm message, command and email sched
[18:05] <kroni> can i ask something?
[18:05] <maverick_> zoug: yep, i changed the permissions with this: sudo chmod a+x /usr/bin/cb_console_runner
[18:05] <MIchael1> where can I ask about changing from MS windows to Ubuntu ?
[18:05] <kroni> is not recognizing my cam
[18:05] <opticon> not here
[18:05] <kroni> what can  i do?
[18:05] <maverick_> michaeli: here
[18:05] <maverick_> michaeli: what do you want to do?
[18:05] <McRibz> no help with alsa???????
[18:05] <piojunbabia> kroni: me too... :)
[18:05] <Pici> !patience
[18:06] <MIchael1> ok
[18:06] <haresh> hwz
[18:06] <MIchael1> I want to change my whole system over
[18:06] <MIchael1> all software too
[18:06] <McRibz> alsa?? help??
[18:06] <ctmjr> !info alarm-clock | haresh
[18:06] <zoug> maverick_: does that help
[18:06] <synapsys> haresh, enable universe repository
[18:06] <McRibz> help with alsa and usb device pls
[18:06] <maverick_> michael1: www.ubuntu.com..download the iso, burn it, and boot from it, then ready to go :)
[18:06] <haresh> how to enable
[18:07] <MIchael1> yes, i have done that
[18:07] <MIchael1> on it now
[18:07] <MIchael1> completely new though
[18:07] <MIchael1> to me
[18:07] <maverick_> zoug: nope, still the same..
[18:07] <MIchael1> looking for advice on migrating software
[18:07] <haresh> keizz
[18:07] <haresh> how to add it
[18:07] <synapsys> haresh, http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-9.04
[18:07] <maverick_> MIchael1: go to the ubuntu software centre from applications menu..you cant run your normal windows applications (exes) in ubuntu :)
[18:08] <MIchael1> well i use encrition software, webcam security and some other stuff and I want to know if I can do this with ubuntu
[18:08] <haresh> ctmjr, how to enable
[18:08] <MIchael1> is there some sort of comparison site I can go and see if ubuntu doies what I want ?
[18:08] <McRibz> help me pls -- alsa sound and usb device PLS.
[18:08] <synapsys> MIchael1, google.com
[18:08] <maverick_> MIchael1: for encryption you can use truecrypt..
[18:08] <zoug> maverick_: may be your cb needs sudo
[18:08] <daveinps> Can I get some help here with a bluetooth issue?
[18:09] <zoug> maverick_: try opening it with sudo
[18:09] <MIchael1> true crypt same as for windows ?
[18:09] <McRibz> and USB and alsa?
[18:09] <piojunbabia> !bluetooth
[18:09] <maverick_> zoug: i did that yesterday, still no avail, wait let me try it again
[18:09] <sipior> McRibz: if you want real help, provide real information. phrase a proper question, and then wait around ten minutes between repeat requests.
[18:09] <zoug> maverick_: okay
[18:09] <McRibz> OK
[18:10] <citypop> !ask | daveinps
[18:10] <daveinps> I know, generally, HOW to setup bluteooth, my mouse works, but my keyboard(s) won't work.
[18:10] <sam__> need help my software center don't start , help me pls
[18:10] <zoug> maverick_: did you tick "allow this file to be executed" from the properties menu
[18:10] <Rprp`> Is it possible to reconfigure 'nice'? for some reason the output of 'nice' gives -2, which is probaly the cause of starting all the procceses with -2
[18:10] <Lungan> Having som problems with wireless connection on ubuntu, just set up an linksys router, but around every 10 min i loose connection but my friends on windows doesnät
[18:10] <Lungan> lose connection
[18:11] <morfeus> salve a tutti
[18:11] <Lungan> what can the problem be+
[18:11] <ctmjr> haresh: here you go follow this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[18:11] <daveinps> !bluetooth
[18:11] <AnxiousNut> can gnome-ppp detect win-modems and use them?
[18:11] <hdtdi> i have a windows vista box and a box with ubuntu.. how can i see the vista desctom from my ubuntu box.. i need a vnc server and client.. and i have to install the server on vista and the client on ubuntu right? but which one should i use ?
[18:11] <maverick_> zoug: still nothing with sudo, lemme check properties
[18:11] <andruk> !google > synapsys
[18:12] <trijntje> Hi all, since karmic my sound gives a loud crack just before it start playing. I already removed the powersafe option from alsa-base.conf to no avail.What else can I do to fix this?
[18:12] <pabelanger> I'm looking for information about making a PPA package always superseed a ubuntu package?
[18:12] <sam__> need help my software center don't start , help me pls
[18:12] <andruk> pabelanger: supercede, and it should do that already, unless the PPA package is out of date.
[18:12] <maverick_> zoug: i cannot see any option like that, can you tell me where it is located?
[18:13] <McRibz> Most movie players will not work with my Logitech USB headset, although the device is detected - Please help.
[18:13] <maverick_> Michael1: yes trucrypt is the exact same
[18:13] <alankila> pabelanger: or provide a version slightly higher than the official. If official is 1.2.3-ubuntu4, make yours 1.2.3-ubuntu4-mine1
[18:13] <andruk> sam__: can you run it in a terminal and tell me if any errors show up?  try "gksudo software-center" without the quotes
[18:13] <jacquesdupontd_> hey ererybody
[18:13] <zoug> maverick_: right click the file then properties
[18:14] <jacquesdupontd_> i'm searching for someone that knows a lot about virutalisation
[18:14] <daveinps> I am having trouble with my Apple bluetooth keyboard (s).  The mouse connects but the keyboards won't.  Does anyone know what I should do to fix this?
[18:14] <zoug> maverick_: permissions tab
[18:14] <andruk> !ask > jacquesdupontd_
[18:14] <pabelanger> alankila: That is currently what I am doing, but if 1.3.0-ubuntu4 is released, would it not be a greater version then mine?
[18:14] <piojunbabia> !PPA
[18:14] <sipior> McRibz: you say "most" movie players. which ones do work?
[18:15] <maverick_> zoug: lol, there is no permission tab, just to be clear, i opened an empty file and not a project, does that make any difference?
[18:15] <Rprp`> Is it possible to reconfigure 'nice'? for some reason the output of 'nice' gives -2, which is probaly the cause of starting all the procceses with -2
[18:15] <hackel> Hmm, so I grabbed the Karmic DVD torrent in order to speed up the download, but when I went to upgrade, it only used about half the packages from it, and is downloading the other half at only 100 KiB/s and says it's going to take 10 hours!!  Is there anything I can do to speed this up?
[18:15] <sam__> andruk no it didn't start
[18:16] <jacquesdupontd_> andruk, this time i have to be sure that the guy knows a lot cause i'm gonna ask some very precise things but ok : Is it possible cause i can't see why it couldn't be, to launch an OS already installed from mu Ubuntu, example, launch my Windows Seven installed in multiboot in Ubuntu without having to reinstall a special Windows Seven from my Virtualisation software ?
[18:16] <McRibz> well the only one that does worj isnt really a movie player: Audicious
[18:16] <zoug> maverick_: sh executes untitled1, so give permissions to untitled1. or if its already compiled, try running it from terminal
[18:16] <McRibz> vlc and movie player will not work
[18:16] <andruk> jacquesdupontd_: i doubt it
[18:16] <synapsys> hackel, http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[18:16] <andruk> sam__: did it give any error messages in the terminal?
[18:17] <maverick_> zoug: untiled1 is a txt file, i see no output files in the folder :(
[18:17] <McRibz> but they work with standard jack headset
[18:17] <hackel> synapsys:  how exactly is that supposed to be relevant to what I asked?
[18:17] <jacquesdupontd_> andruk, when we think about it it should be possible even if i know that i aleady asked 2 years ago and everybody told me it was impossble. Logically it should be possible like to relaunch grub mbr from the Ubuntu.
[18:17] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd_: i doubt too
[18:17] <zoug> maverick_: did you see the permissions tab on that one
[18:17] <maverick_> zoug: i solved it my bad, lol i was looking for permissions in codeblock properties
[18:17] <sam__> no it ask for what program to run i wrote softwar center ask password then stop
[18:18] <jacquesdupontd_> yeah :( sad
[18:18] <maverick_> zoug: thanks a lot man :D
[18:18] <andruk> jacquesdupontd_: its possible, but nobody has done it yet as far as i can tell
[18:18] <pabelanger> andruk: This is what I would like to do, I want my PPA package to stay a specific version reguardless of the Ubuntu version.
[18:18] <zoug> maverick_: ah,coool
[18:18] <jacquesdupontd_> andruk, that's the answer i wanted to hear, i think it would be very hard for me to make it possble alone no ?
[18:18] <andruk> pabelanger: then pin the package in synaptic
[18:18] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd_: its more than that, everything changes, MBR, target, drivers
[18:19] <synapsys> hackel, its a faster way to download karmic
[18:19] <jacquesdupontd_> yeah i know
[18:19] <andruk> jacquesdupontd_: depends on who you are.  i dont think one person could do it alone, but what do i know.
[18:19] <jacquesdupontd_> it's a lot of work
[18:19] <synapsys> hackel, your question didn't make much sense
[18:19] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd_: so no windows could handle that, i dunno if seven could handle that
[18:19] <daveinps> my Apple bluetooth keyboards won't work with Karmic.  The mouse does, however work.   Does anyone know the answer?
[18:20] <hackel> synapsys:  I have already downloaded the DVD, via the torrent, which was very fast.  Now that I am upgrading, it is downloading the remaining packages at only 100 KiB/s and it's going to take 10 hours to finish.
[18:20] <jacquesdupontd_> ok i have another very simple question but can't remember how to do it, i would like that my /dev/sdb1 mount automaticly on startup but with read and write permissions.
[18:20] <pabelanger> andruk: I am not sure how, or what, that is.  Know of any links?
[18:20] <synapsys> hackel, ahh now i get it
[18:20] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd_: /etc/fstab and googel for the rights you wanna have
[18:21] <hackel> I don't recall any previous Ubuntu upgrade going so slowly...
[18:21] <jacquesdupontd_> Schamane, i did had it to the fstab but can't find the right line
[18:21] <jacquesdupontd_> Schamane, here is the line /dev/sdb1 /media/Data ntfs umask=0222 0 1
[18:21] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd_: search for the line of sdb1 ;)
[18:22] <jacquesdupontd_> Schamane, this line should give me read and write permissions no ?
[18:22] <McRibz> VLC & movie player will not work with my Logitech USB headset, although the device is detected - Please help.
[18:22] <sam__> andruk it did not give any error message
[18:23] <zoug> jacquesdupontd_: +rw
[18:24] <jacquesdupontd_> zoug thx gonna try that
[18:24] <flower> is there a lucid alpha minimal cd?
[18:24] <plouffe> since upgrading to 9.10 mysql won't connect, and complete removal and reinstall from synaptic brings dependency errors for versions 5.0 and 5.1 alike
[18:24] <Schamane> this should work /dev/sdb1 /media/Data ntfs rw,user,auto,umask=0222 0 1
[18:24] <jacquesdupontd_> zoug mole tjat ! /dev/sdb1 /media/Data ntfs umask=0222 0 1 +rw ?
[18:24] <coz_> flower,  well  I dont think there is a cd  oh wait maybe today there is since it is alpha1 today
[18:24] <jacquesdupontd_> like that sorry
[18:25] <zoug> jacquesdupontd_: not the +....:D
[18:25] <jacquesdupontd_> thx schamane
[18:25] <coz_> flower,  but if you want to try lucid ..you can open up /etc/apt/sources.list and change all the "karmic"  to "lucid"
[18:25] <coz_> flower,   howevr I would    go over to #ubuntu+1 channel which is for lucid
[18:25] <jacquesdupontd_> long time i didn't touched the fstab :) sorry
[18:25] <Pici> coz_: Please do not suggest that, as it is not the proper way to upgrade to a new release.
[18:25] <jacquesdupontd_> this is so newbie i know :) gonna reboot now
[18:25] <laeg> is there any disadvantage to removing pulseaudio? i just want sound on simultaneous apps like wine, firefox, vlc and maybe skype/teamspeak etc
[18:25] <UF-Gast505> ist jemand deutsches hier on hab ne frage
[18:25] <andruk> sam__: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[18:25] <coz_> Pici,  just until today it was the only to do it
[18:25] <jacquesdupontd_> i come back in 10 seconds
[18:25] <DJones> !de | UF-Gast505
[18:25] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd_: but search in google for mount ntfs writeable fstab brings a lot of hits ;)
[18:26] <zoug> jacquesdupontd_: too less..10?
[18:26] <vega> is it just me or did the .16 kernel in jaunty get upgraded twice during last week
[18:26] <andruk> pabelanger: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[18:26] <andruk> sam__: sorry, i didnt mean to tell you that
[18:26] <vega> i have .16 and now update-manager offers it _again_
[18:26] <Schamane> vega: got an update today too
[18:26] <andruk> sam__: i dont know what the problem is.  I suggest searching launchpad.net for a bug report related to your issue, and if you can't find one, then I suggest reporting your bug.
[18:27] <jacquesdupontd> im back
[18:27] <jacquesdupontd> ok
[18:27] <vega> what's the great idea with that?
[18:27] <sam__> andruk package manger works
[18:27] <pingya> hi.  i am editing the appearance of the clock in my panel.  i have this: <span size="smaller" color="#999999">%a %d %b</span> <b>%H:%M</b> but i would like to put in a separate line between the date and the time.  does anyone know how to do that?
[18:27] <jacquesdupontd> does not wok
[18:27] <jacquesdupontd> work
[18:27] <jacquesdupontd> permission denied
[18:27] <Schamane> vega: dunno, but i mine has downloaded server kernel also, thats strange too
[18:27] <sysdoc> Is there some known issues with Ubuntu's kernels in 9.10 while reconfiguring VMware server
[18:27] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd: have you unmounten and then mounted is again?
[18:28] <vega> oh well, it's in line with the generic quality of karmic...
[18:28] <jacquesdupontd> oops
[18:28] <jacquesdupontd> i rebooted Schamane
[18:28] <Schamane> hm, the it should work
[18:28] <jacquesdupontd> thought would be sufficient but i should sudo umount -a and sudo mount -a ?
[18:28] <terje> hi, how can I disable gnome-keyring ?
[18:29] <grawity> terje: short answer: You cannot.
[18:29] <terje> I've turned it off in startup-applications but it still starts for some reason.
[18:29] <grawity> terje: Longer answer: Why exactly do you want to do that?
[18:29] <terje> it's borking my svn commits for some reason
[18:29] <grawity> Uh. How exactly?
[18:30] <grawity> I had no idea svn uses gnome-keyring.
[18:30] <sam__> andruk is it ok leave it as it is ?
[18:30] <jacquesdupontd> does not work, i did sudo umount -a and sudo mount -a and same it told me by the way No new final line at the end of /etc/fstab
[18:30] <terje> svn: Commit failed (details follow):
[18:30] <terje> svn: MKACTIVITY of '/repos/EnvysionRepository/!svn/act/2fe0266f-fc51-431e-a531-cb72dffc60d6': authorization failed: Could not authenticate to server: rejected Basic challenge
[18:30] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd: try umask=007
[18:30] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: okay, write rw after your fs . syntax is like device, mount point ,fs,opt,dump,fsck..http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Fstab
[18:30] <grawity> terje: And if you do 'unset GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET'?
[18:30] <terje> no, I haven't tried that
[18:30] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd: try umask=007,gid <-your group id
[18:31] <andruk> sam__: yeah, dont worry about it
[18:31] <grawity> terje: Then how do you know it's gnome-keyring breaking stuff, and not something else?
[18:31] <sam__> thx andruk
[18:31] <jacquesdupontd> cd http://pastebin.com/m17d265b0
[18:31] <jacquesdupontd> sorry
[18:31] <jacquesdupontd> http://pastebin.com/m17d265b0
[18:31] <jacquesdupontd> here is my fstab, what should it be ?
[18:31] <terje> I don't see that envvar set in my shell
[18:32] <grawity> terje: If there's no $GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET, then there's no keyring either - not one accessible to your svn, at least...
[18:32] <skx_> m
[18:32] <AnxiousNut> can gnome-ppp detect win-modems and use them?
[18:33] <jacquesdupontd> its written login : jacquesdupontd UID : 1000
[18:33] <jacquesdupontd> Schamane, i should put 1000 ?
[18:33] <llutz> AnxiousNut: if kernel supports the modem, yes
[18:33] <jacquesdupontd> im on kubuntu but i don't think it changes somethings ?
[18:33] <terje> huh, ok.
[18:33] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd: /dev/sda1   /Windows ntfs-3g  defaults,umask=0  0  0
[18:33] <Schamane> thats one i used several times
[18:34] <mia738> hi all
[18:34] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: /dev/sdb1 /media/Data ntfs-3g rw,user 0 1 ???
[18:34] <xbunty512> hi all
[18:34] <jacquesdupontd> Schamane, when i sudo kate /etc/fstab i have this written :
[18:34] <jacquesdupontd> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-jacquesdupontd" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[18:34] <jacquesdupontd> Error: "/tmp/kde-jacquesdupontd" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[18:34] <jacquesdupontd> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-jacquesdupontd" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[18:34] <FloodBot2> jacquesdupontd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <jacquesdupontd> sorry
[18:34] <grawity> terje: Anyway, why were you thinking that it's gnome-keyring breaking everything?
[18:35] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd: but yours should be fine too, only ntfs = ntfs-3g
[18:35] <jacquesdupontd> it's still ntfs-3g ?
[18:35] <trijntje> Sound gives a loud crack just before it starts playing, how can i stop this?
[18:35] <jacquesdupontd> no now it's ntfs on karmic
[18:35] <eman> someone tel me a good video converter
[18:36] <maverick_> zoug: is there something similar to KDevelop in GNOME (except Code::Blocks)?
[18:36] <puremichael> anjuta ?
[18:36] <jacquesdupontd> Schamane, this should work : /dev/sdb1 /media/Data ntfs rw,user,auto,umask=1000 0 0
[18:36] <mia738> sorry, i had the problem, that my apache log (access.log) didnt update. i change the owner rights..but i didnt know whats to do..
[18:36] <jacquesdupontd> Schamane, do you agree ?
[18:36] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: ntfs-3g replaced kernel-ntfs in karmic?
[18:36] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: i have karmic and has ntfs-3g
[18:37] <jacquesdupontd> zoug, ok but you installed it ?
[18:37] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd: should work
[18:37] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: naah..def
[18:37] <jacquesdupontd> i thought ntfs-3G was before ntfs was reconised like on dapper
[18:37] <ctmjr> AnxiousNut: it's been a long time since i tried to get a winmodem working on linux here is a link you can read up on it is a pain as winmodems are just softmodems and you need to get linux drivers for the chipset http://www.linmodems.org/
[18:37] <jacquesdupontd> that's all gonna try my line
[18:37] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: nop
[18:37] <llutz> e
[18:38] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | jacquesdupontd
[18:38] <jacquesdupontd> i know
[18:38] <jacquesdupontd> but now we don't need it anymore in karmic that's all i'm saying write ?
[18:38] <maverick_> does ubuntu slow down over time (like windows) after installing to many apps and stuff..
[18:38] <Schamane> jacquesdupontd: ah, so it is stil ntfs-3g :)
[18:38] <jacquesdupontd> i know i could pass by ntfs-3g
[18:38] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: how does it matter if we use it?
[18:38] <thiebaude> maverick_, not that i know of
[18:38] <zoug> maverick_: i use netbeans
[18:39] <Alinn> iceroot: Thanks :)
[18:39] <maverick_> zoug: thanks
[18:39] <jacquesdupontd> zoug, it does not matter but it's not needed fromthe beginnning that's all
[18:39] <jacquesdupontd> zoug, but easier to set maybe
[18:39] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: ntfs = kernel = user read-only
[18:39] <jacquesdupontd> gonna try my line
[18:39] <maverick_> thiebaude: ubuntu boots in 10 seconds at my place, i hope it dosent slow down...thanks
[18:39] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, ouch that would explain all
[18:39] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: its read-only, but you wanted rw too right?
[18:39] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, then you advice me to install ntfs-3g if i want rw ?
[18:39] <thiebaude> maverick_, mine doesn't boot that fast
[18:39] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: if it hadn't changed dramatically in the last weeks
[18:40] <mia738> hm did you see my question? i change the owner richts of the access.log (apache2) and know the webserver didnt log. what are the correkt owner settings? apache restart didnt help
[18:40] <jacquesdupontd> was not thinking i should need to install ntfs-
[18:40] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: sure, why do you think i gave you the ntfs-3g factoid
[18:40] <jacquesdupontd> 3g
[18:40] <jacquesdupontd> but i'm onna insall it
[18:40] <Alan502> Playing with gimp i unchecked "show menu bar" =P how can i renable it?
[18:40] <maverick_> thiebaude: it maybe because i just installed it 10 days ago, (boot meaning till the login screen)
[18:40] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, yeah yeah sorry my fault didn't knew tht informatino
[18:41] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, to use it i have to sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[18:41] <Tashi> good evening (at least at my site)
[18:41] <thiebaude> ahh ok
[18:41] <jacquesdupontd> no ntfs-3g not needed
[18:42] <jacquesdupontd> my line is working thx Schamane and others
[18:42] <jacquesdupontd> i show my line for others : /dev/sdb1 /media/Data ntfs rw,user,auto,umask=1000 0 0 (because my umask is 1000
[18:42] <Alan502> solved \º/
[18:43] <jacquesdupontd> rebooting right now :)
[18:43] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: you dont have ntfs-3g preinstalled?
[18:43] <jacquesdupontd> zoug, nop
[18:43] <diesel> Is there a method to change the GDM login to that I have to type a valid username rather than clicking on a user?
[18:43] <jacquesdupontd> zoug, oh seems yes in fact :)
[18:43] <jacquesdupontd> jacquesdupontd@jacquesdupontdL:/media/Data/Data/video$ ntfs-3g
[18:43] <jacquesdupontd> ntfs-3g: No device is specified.
[18:43] <ali3n> hello i was stupid and didnt by any cds.... can i burn the cd image to dvd?
[18:43] <piojunbabia> zoug: do you know how to use ecplipse?
[18:43] <llutz> ali3n: you can
[18:43] <jacquesdupontd> but i don't think my line is using it zoug
[18:44] <ali3n> sweet :D
[18:44] <thiebaude> ali3n, yes
[18:44] <Guiri> Anybody familiar with GPG? I accidentially revoked a key on one computer but I still have a working key on the other and have not uploaded it to a keyserver. I'm wondering how to fix this in Thunderbird's Enigmail
[18:44] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: oh, yeah it doesnt..check for rw
[18:44] <ali3n> gonna get rid of winblows :D
[18:44] <thiebaude> ali3n, cool
[18:44] <zoug> piojunbabia: did you get it working?
[18:44] <jacquesdupontd> ok now my script of streaming should work perfectly :) rebooting to be sure, thx everybody
[18:45] <piojunbabia> zoug: im running ecplipse now
[18:45] <Frash> Hello!
[18:45] <duck_tape> anybody know if there is a x86_64 version of server edition for ubuntu?
[18:45] <elnovato> How to install MS SQL php support on ubuntu??
[18:45] <grawity> Guiri: Delete the revoked key and re-import from a valid copy.
[18:45] <grawity> duck_tape: Yeah, look for "amd64" in the website.
[18:45] <zoug> piojunbabia: so how about a simple hello world program so that you know it works
[18:46] <duck_tape> grawity:  but that would be amd not xeon correct?
[18:46] <Schamane> duck_tape: 64 bit is 64 bit
[18:46] <laeg> "Sorry. The administrator has banned your IP address. To contact the administrator click here" - wtf?! is there something wrong with the forums?
[18:46] <piojunbabia> zoug: i wonder how to compile it...i made a hello world program already
[18:46] <Frash> Do you know if there is a way to call the gnome version of X-Chat from command line?
[18:46] <grawity> duck_tape: The same architecture is used by both Intel and AMD; "amd64" is just the old name for x86_64.
[18:47] <zoug> piojunbabia: have not been to eclipse since long, but it should be near and easy
[18:47] <duck_tape> ok thank you…. I just wanted to confirm that it would also work for Intel
[18:47] <elnovato> please ban laeg he is cursing, im just 13
[18:47] <grawity> duck_tape: IIRC, it's called so because when amd64 was created, Intel had its own 64-bit architecture (which died really quick)
[18:47] <grawity> Frash: xchat-gnome
[18:47] <Frash> Thanks!
[18:47] <hdtdi> im not really sure this is the place but.. i connect with my ubuntu to a vista mashine with rdesktop ip.. but when i login with a user and password the user on this pc is forced to logout.. is there a way to connect in this vista without logout the other person
[18:48] <piojunbabia> zoug: let me figure it out... i am not sure i could...
[18:48] <Schamane> grawity: itanium? ;)
[18:48] <Frash> It's just because I was trying to figure out and ended up installing the old version instead :)
[18:48] <grawity> Schamane: Mhm.
[18:48] <iceroot> hdtdi: ##windows
[18:48] <zoug> piojunbabia: should be easy. never been on an ide before?
[18:48] <grawity> Frash: The non-GNOME one? It isn't "old" or anything, just a different program.
[18:49] <piojunbabia> zoug: in school we use jcreator as editor
[18:49] <duck_tape> any tips on getting  ubuntu working/booting from an external USB drive?
[18:49] <Frash> Thank you again!
[18:49] <piojunbabia> zoug: this is my first time to use beside jcreator
[18:49] <nonix4> grawity: actually at least ia64 still lives... at Itanium niche of the market.
[18:49] <iceroot> duck_tape: install on the usb-drive, enable usb-boot in bios
[18:49] <iceroot> duck_tape: thats all
[18:49] <zoug> piojunbabia: ok
[18:50] <mikejet> Why does "lp file.pdf" print with slightly more magnification than the document viewer evince prints pdfs at?
[18:50] <duck_tape> non of the GRUB  like stupidy about  not finding the drive etc?
[18:50] <duck_tape> s/non/none
[18:50] <iceroot> duck_tape: no, just enable usb-boot in bios
[18:51] <iceroot> mikejet: tried lpr? if i am correct evince is using lpr not lp
[18:51] <grawity> I thought evince just passes stuff directly to CUPS.
[18:52] <jacquesdupontd> ok for people who wants some good aliases and functions interesting : http://tinyurl.com/scriptbashrc
[18:52] <laeg> elnovato: wow, you're funny.
[18:52] <Myth`> I'm having some problems with vsftpd - I've exhausted my google searches looking for a solution and #vsftpd might as well be dead. I can't seem to get FTP over SSL working when /bin/false is set. The only time it works is with /bin/bash is flagged in /etc/passwd but then users get access to / Would someone mind shooting me a PM?
[18:52] <arek> no
[18:52] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: ah..useful. thanks!
[18:52] <arek> he
[18:52] <mikejet> lp and lpr are both from the cups package. Actually, it seems like "lp x.pdf" is the correct 100% magnification. It is evince that is doing 95% (to guarantee it fits on the page?)
[18:53] <arek> papa
[18:53] <nozes> e noz
[18:53] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: Uh. You do realize that you made the URL 3 letters longer and 10% less convienent by tinyurlizing it?
[18:53] <boonie> hey ich hab mal ne frage und zwar hab ich nen proprietären nvidia treiber über diesen hardware-manager installiert, krieg aber nachm kubunut ladescreen nur nen schwarzen bildschrim woran kann das liegen ?
[18:53] <Pici> !de | boonie
[18:53] <erUSUL> !DE
[18:53] <jacquesdupontd> zoug, no problem, long work on it so i like to give it to people it's usefull
[18:53] <zoug> grawity: lol
[18:53] <coz_> Myth`,  generally it is best to deal with issues in the main channel ..for several reasons... others can jump in if the person you are talking with makes an error and other can see the progress of the problem
[18:53] <Myth`> coz_> 10-4
[18:54] <ZeroKewl> i need help with sound
[18:54] <piojunbabia> zoug: maybe it can be compiled through terminal
[18:54] <coz_> Myth`,  :)
[18:54] <zoug> piojunbabia: yeah pretty simple it seems
[18:54] <ZeroKewl> when i play a game it start buzzing
[18:54] <jacquesdupontd> and it's working really great, when you want to see directly a movie with an http://directlink.com/the.avi you can read it directly and save it at the same time to your hard disk , with my function s, or smkv for mkv
[18:54] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: i would place most of that stuff  in small scripts, so it could be used in subshells etc.
[18:54] <piojunbabia> zoug: you know how?
[18:54] <JoeSomebody> how do i install lmsensors and gkrellm? looking at http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Download,  do i need Recommended patches: r5757, r5765, r5769, r5770 ?
[18:54] <mikejet> lp x.pdf and lpr x.pdf are identical.
[18:54] <piojunbabia> !javac
[18:54] <ZeroKewl> any help
[18:55] <zoug> piojunbabia: should i give you the eclipse manual?
[18:55] <Tashi> I think I have found a serious issue. My old harddrive crashed and I think that it was because it got too hot in my small pc so now I bought a handy little compact flash -> ide connector and I'm desperately trying to install kubuntu but it just won't work. It always hangs up at the step of hardware detection. I already tried to install other distributions and Debian Lenny does the job. Also installing on an ide drive and dd-copyin
[18:55] <Tashi> g the installation from the ide disc to the cf card and then booting from an usb reader works.
[18:55] <coz_> JoeSomebody,  probably sudo apt-get install lmsensors   gkrellm
[18:55] <Justin1> Im Having Trouble With My Internet
[18:55] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, hehe yes i know but in fact i wanted to put another one already taken and then did it fast and easy to remember that's all
[18:55] <jacquesdupontd> :)
[18:55] <Justin1> It Goes Down ANd Then Up
[18:55] <piojunbabia> zoug: please.
[18:55] <laeg> "change eth0 for the name of your ethernet/wireless card" - how do i check the name?
[18:55] <mocramis> hi, I'm looking for an IP and gateway finder
[18:55] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: s() { cd /media/Data/Data/video; url="$1"; name="$( basename "$url ")"; wget -c -O "$name" "$url" -b; vlc "$name"; }
[18:55] <iceroot> mocramis: dhcp?
[18:55] <terrorinkorporat> lol
[18:55] <JoeSomebody> i downloaded them to downloads folder
[18:55] <zoug> piojunbabia: http://www.eclipse.org/documentation/
[18:55] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: vlc can play movies while they're being downloaded.
[18:56] <JoeSomebody> i am used to windows
[18:56] <mocramis> I would like to loop on a range of IP's in order to find one
[18:56] <JoeSomebody> apt-get couldnt find it or something
[18:56] <Justin1> And I Also Im Looking To Sale My Real State In Halifax Nova Scotia And I Want To Sale It
[18:56] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, i'm using this script for monthes and i wouldn't have made it if i had followed people telling me it won't work
[18:56] <JoeSomebody> so i went to download page
[18:56] <Tashi> But I just can't understand why it won't just install when I'm using kubuntu... I think it's udevs fault at least that's the last thing it tries to load
[18:56] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, test yourself you gonna see :)
[18:56] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: I'm not saying it won't work. I'm just saying there's a shorter alternative.
[18:57] <mikejet> i should install adobe reader - whatever that does is the correct output.
[18:57] <coz_> JoeSomebody,   so did you open synaptic pacakge manager and search for those?
[18:57] <Justin1> BBot Zr
[18:57] <JoeSomebody> no, ill try that
[18:57] <mocramis> (I lost the IP of a fix ethernet port and I can't find it)
[18:57] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: can you help me with a problem. i want to install app (deb) in a dir with many other debs. i want to install just the app i want and not the classic sudo dpkg -i *deb thingy..
[18:57] <Justin1> Happy
[18:57] <Justin1> Late
[18:57] <Justin1> Are You
[18:58] <Pici> !enter | Justin1
[18:58] <sipior> Justin1: enough, already.
[18:58] <philipp_> hi i have a problem mounting an iso image. it says cd rom is not in iso 9660 format. how can i fix this problem?
[18:58] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, to download it the fastest as possibile no, the way i was doing it before was directly vlc thedirectlink but when the speed was lower than needed it freezes and then come back seconds after the speed cames back to good and you miss some. My script download it the fastest it makes that you're able to pause, sometimes go further or before
[18:58] <Justin1> Im Looking To Sale My Real Eastate In Halifax Nova Scotia And The Price Is 900 To 500
[18:58] <zoug> i am trying for this problem since the last 3hrs i guess..
[18:59] <coz_> JoeSomebody,  lm-sensors is in the repos as well ad gkrellm
[18:59] <JoeSomebody> coz : gkrellm is there but not lmsensors
[18:59] <coz_> JoeSomebody,   lm-sensors
[18:59] <Pici> Justin1: This is an Ubuntu Support channel, please try to stay on-topic.
[18:59] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: Meh. Anyway, you can replace name=$(echo "$1" | rev | cut -f1 -d'/' | rev) with name=$(basename "$1")
[18:59] <JoeSomebody> ah :)
[18:59] <JoeSomebody> thx
[18:59] <zoug> piojunbabia: did you read the doc? should be easy
[18:59] <Tashi> I think my problem is just too confusing to describe... I'm working on this since monday and I just don't get anywhere <sigh>
[18:59] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, true, thx  !)
[18:59] <coz_> JoeSomebody, if you type    sensors  in the search field it will show up
[18:59] <piojunbabia> zoug: its pdf and still downloading.... slow internet speed
[18:59] <nonix4> Tashi: hang on hw detection of cf-ide-adaptor?
[19:00] <zoug> piojunbabia: okay
[19:00] <mocramis> No ideas ?
[19:00] <Tashi> nonix4: The installation goes up till around 80% so it really can write stuff on the cf card.
[19:00] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: Btw, what does this line do? MATCH=`expr match "$1" ".*\(mkv\)"`;
[19:00] <JoeSomebody> got them now, thanks
[19:01] <GiZzY> cant connect to wifi connection
[19:01] <laeg> "change eth0 for the name of your ethernet/wireless card" - how do i check the name?
[19:01] <GiZzY> my problem
[19:01] <laeg> !mount
[19:01] <zoug> laeg: ifconfig?
[19:01] <AmokPaule> Hello, i want to change the max upload file size for php is that basicly without any risc?
[19:01] <Tashi> nonix4: I even managed to install a working kubuntu on an IDE Hard Drive with the same cable. Copied that over on to the card (partition sizes matched) and started from that in rescue mode. Last thing was something with lost interrupt while loading libudev.so
[19:02] <llutz> grawity: jacquesdupontd no basename needed, just shell: name=${1##*/}
[19:02] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, to be sure the url is having a .avi inside cause i had a megaupload bypass that was giving url like tinyurl
[19:03] <jacquesdupontd> so then if there's not the name of the movie inside the url it does a tempmov.avi
[19:03] <Tashi> The funny thing is with Debian Lenny it works perfectly.
[19:04] <Tashi> But I want a little bit more recent software ;)
[19:05] <jacquesdupontd> anyway that's the way i did it for it to work and it works perfectly in any case and i like it like that and that was a gift for people who needs it, there is surely way to do it less long but who cares
[19:05] <laeg> zoug: http://pastebin.com/d3a5b8c6a
[19:05] <VirusTB> OK i think i am in deap S**t :(
[19:05] <VirusTB> i screwed up my Netbook dual booot!
[19:05] <VirusTB> When u turn on my netbook, i get GRUB error 17
[19:05] <maco> VirusTB: watch your language
[19:05] <gOLDfeesh> VirusTB what seems to be the issue
[19:06] <VirusTB> maco,  sorry :(
[19:06] <gOLDfeesh> !language VirusTB
[19:06] <gOLDfeesh> hmm.. lol.
[19:06]  * maco hands gOLDfeesh a |
[19:06] <gOLDfeesh> a what?
[19:06] <gOLDfeesh> oh pipe..
[19:06] <VirusTB>  gOLDfeesh  I had Ubuntu installed, and it has an error, and listening to somoene in the chat room the told me to delet the Ubuntu partiion n restart
[19:06] <gOLDfeesh> !language | VirusTB
[19:07] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: http://sprunge.us/cXbC
[19:07] <VirusTB> gOLDfeesh,  and now, my netbook cnt even load/boot to my WIN XP (because of boot loader
[19:07] <jacquesdupontd> now i have to work on that virtualisatino thing
[19:07] <maco> VirusTB: once you reinstall ubuntu it should reinstall grub for you...
[19:07] <gOLDfeesh> !grub | VirusTB
[19:07] <gOLDfeesh> try the fix
[19:07] <VirusTB> maco so how do i get ubunt o a usb
[19:07] <mkquist> VirusTB: why would you delete your ubuntu partition?
[19:07] <VirusTB>  on  *
[19:07] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, thx, interesting :)
[19:07] <zoug> laeg: i dont get your problem. also try ifconfig -a to identify your wireless
[19:07] <maco> VirusTB: using another computer?
[19:08] <gOLDfeesh> VirusTB you know if you try asking questions with "!" infront it might be useful
[19:08] <gOLDfeesh> !usb
[19:08] <maco> gOLDfeesh: you really really really like playing with the bot even after ive already answered a question, dont you?
[19:08] <zoug> how can i "grep" through bunch of debs in a dir so that i can install just th app i want and all its depen?
[19:08] <VirusTB> mkquist, listening to some dude in thi chat room! (i had nothing to lose so i delet the parttion)
[19:08] <gOLDfeesh> If you're installing Ubuntu to a USB you don't touch your partitions at all well not your comp ones at all but the ones on your USB you do
[19:09] <mkquist> VirusTB: do you still want ubuntu? or was that the point?
[19:09] <maco> mkquist: the intention was a reinstall
[19:09] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, yeah really great
[19:09] <VirusTB> gOLDfeesh,  ok
[19:09] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, don't you find this script interesting ? now i watch movies directly even in full hd
[19:09] <zoug> :(
[19:09] <mkquist> VirusTB: ahh ic
[19:09] <gOLDfeesh> maco no, people need to learn that not everything is "fix it for me" and that they have quick help links that they can follow
[19:09] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, i have a 1700 ko/s connection on megaupload
[19:09] <VirusTB> gOLDfeesh,  maco mkquist  ok so if i re install my ubuntu to the empty partition on my sytem i will get my GRUB back and can boot WIN XP?
[19:10] <maco> gOLDfeesh: if they've already been given an answer, you dont need to have teh bot repeat the answer. and no, they dont need to learn that
[19:10] <VirusTB> mkquist,  i guess he wasnt a expert, (but i learned from his mistakes)
[19:10] <maco> VirusTB: yes
[19:10] <gOLDfeesh> VirusTB if you didn't delete your windows partition
[19:10] <VirusTB> !usb
[19:10] <mikejet> Okay, this is the problem: "lp -o two-sided-short-edge x.pdf" prints the 1st page with different margins than if you just do "lp x.pdf". sigh.
[19:10] <mkquist> VirusTB: true =)
[19:11] <VirusTB> gOLDfeesh,  no i didnt delelr the WIN partition, just the partiion where ubutu was installed
[19:11] <mkquist> VirusTB: and yes grub should reinstall and take care of things
[19:11] <gOLDfeesh> VirusTB than you want !grub
[19:11] <VirusTB> mkquist,  ok col
[19:11] <VirusTB>   i will go tha t now
[19:11] <VirusTB>  and will got
[19:11] <VirusTB>  brb
[19:11] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, you seems to be knowing a lot i would like to be able to boot one of my multiboot OS's like Windows Seven directly from Ubuntu loaded without reinstalling a special one for virtualisation, admitting that ihave a intel core i7 and the virtualisation VT hardware
[19:11] <mkquist> VirusTB: k
[19:13] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, it seems nobody did it actually but i'm sure it should be possible, to reload a the mbr in a virtualisation software and to choose the OS
[19:13] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, do you get what i want ?
[19:13] <VirusTB> mkquist, gOLDfeesh maco  stick arround  i might need some help in a few
[19:13] <jacquesdupontd> would be mervalous
[19:13] <maco> alrighty
[19:13] <mkquist> k
[19:13] <Gideon> hi
[19:13] <Gideon> question
[19:14] <Gideon> im at the partitioning setup
[19:14] <zoug> how can i "grep" through bunch of debs in a dir so that i can install just th app i want and all its depen?
[19:14] <pop3> on *:NOTICE:*nickname is registered*:*:{
[19:14] <pop3>   if ($nick == NickOP && $network == TV) {
[19:14] <pop3>     .msg nickop IDENTIFY password
[19:14] <pop3>   }
[19:14] <Gideon> and how do i get my hdd devided in 2 sections
[19:14] <pop3> }
[19:14] <FloodBot2> pop3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:14] <pop3> on *:NOTICE:*Password accepted*:*:{
[19:14] <mkquist> Gideon: installing?
[19:14] <alabd> a bin file has been executed by double clicking ...and is running ... how to know what is it doing like while it is ran in terminal ?
[19:14] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: Two OSes at once?
[19:14] <Gideon> yes mkquist
[19:14] <mkquist> Gideon: go ahead
[19:14] <Gideon> one 5G for startup and booting and system info
[19:14] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: For Linux or FreeBSD, Xen would work... for Windows Server, Hyper-V. But both? Dunno.
[19:15] <Gideon> and the rest as hdd that i can use to save my stuff
[19:15] <mkquist> Gideon: so you home on the other part?
[19:15] <wildc4rd> evenin'all
[19:15] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664692
[19:15] <trijntje> Sound gives a loud crack just before it starts playing, how can i stop this?
[19:15] <mkquist> Gideon: your*
[19:15] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, i was thinking about Xen, i have to learn it
[19:15] <Gideon> yes
[19:16] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, i'm checking thx
[19:16] <zoug> how can i "grep" through bunch of debs in a dir so that i can install just th app i want and all its depen?
[19:16] <bllzz> Question:  is it possible to set up RAID or LVM from the livecd?
[19:17]  * bllzz bllz
[19:17] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, seems that's what i want
[19:17] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, but it looks like risky a lot
[19:18] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: you always risk your installations, back it up before testing
[19:18] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, i don't want to install a new version of windows 7 just for virtualisation, would be so great to use the already installed one. I thought it was a dream of many people in virtualisation history
[19:18] <starlynite> could somebody tell me where I can find a channel for Absolute Linux?
[19:19] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: one problem is differing hardware inside/outside virtualization
[19:19] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, i back up every 2 days anyway, i'm on a 32 gb ssd disk for my Windows Seven and Ubuntu so the access time is really fast, like i but Kubuntu in 3, 4 seconds
[19:19] <robbmunson> starlynite: tried /msg chanserv alis absolutelinux?
[19:19] <bllzz> Is it possible to set up an LVM or a RAID array from the livecd?
[19:19] <Mainstay> Does anyone have any info on this problem, it makes me want to stab myself: my editor doesn't detect that the currently open file has changed on disk (and prompt me to reload). This happens with files across a network. Any input on how to deal with this, background on this if it's a known issue etc?
[19:19] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, that's why xen and hardware virtualisation from intel core i7 are interesting
[19:20] <zoug> Mainstay: it happens when its local too, may be thats how it works
[19:20] <jacquesdupontd> llutz, seems it's like using it at 100% faster as if you would have launched it normally
[19:20] <starlynite> robbmunson how do I do that?
[19:20] <starlynite> command line?
[19:20] <jacquesdupontd> not faster, as fast i meant
[19:20] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, you know a bit about xen ?
[19:20] <elnovato> How to setup MSSQL libraries for PHP on Ubuntu 9.10 ??
[19:20] <robbmunson> starlynite: just type that in here and look at your "status window"..
[19:21] <VirusTB> mkquist, gOLDfeesh maco
[19:21] <grawity> jacquesdupontd: Only how to uninstall it. :)
[19:21] <gOLDfeesh> heh
[19:21] <maco> VirusTB: aye?
[19:21] <VirusTB> gOLDfeesh,  whats a god tool to resize partitions? maco
[19:22] <MenZa> !gparted | VirusTB
[19:22] <VirusTB> gOLDfeesh, maco  Partitions with Data on them :S (with out losing any datga)
[19:22] <jacquesdupontd> grawity, haha, first i would like to know how to install it cause sudo apt-get install xen tells me that it's not in the sources
[19:22] <VirusTB> MenZa,  i know gParted, but does it move without losingdata?
[19:22] <maco> VirusTB: the installer should let you do it
[19:22] <tsimpson> elconsulto: just make sure you have php5-mysql installed
[19:22] <maco> VirusTB: yes it does
[19:22] <VirusTB> maco,  without losing Data right?
[19:22] <maco> VirusTB: as long as you dont try to make the partition smaller than the data it holds
[19:23] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: apt-cache search xen|grep ^xen
[19:23] <jelly-bean1> since upgrading ubuntu to karmic, in eclipse we ran into the GTK button bug and set the env var to fix that. now we are noticing when we try to do certain things like copy and paste -- the cpu jumps to 100% and eclipse becomes unresponsive for several minutes
[19:23] <VirusTB> Maco :S well hwo do i tell how much DATA is on the partiton?
[19:23] <piojunbabia> zoug: cool, i made a simple hello world without using eclispe, but it did not recognize packages.. like java.io.DataInputStream
[19:23] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: xen-utils-3.3 with other 4 depens
[19:23] <VirusTB> hwo*
[19:23] <llutz> jacquesdupontd: one is: xen-hypervisor-3.3 - The Xen Hypervisor for i386 and amd64.
[19:23] <VirusTB> how*
[19:23] <jacquesdupontd> http://www.itkovian.net/base/xen_hypervisor_with_ubuntu_karmic_koala
[19:23] <jacquesdupontd> hehe thx
[19:23] <Asad2005> can some one help me get rid off gpg errors "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release ... because the public key is not available"
[19:23] <maco> VirusTB: gparted shows it. the part coloured in yellow is the data
[19:23] <jelly-bean1> any ideas what that could be? its not consistent and it is hard to reproduce. but when it does happen it is most often during a copy/paste operation. maybe an undo. and its just plan text on the clipboard--nothing intense.
[19:23] <zoug> jacquesdupontd: synaptic
[19:24] <VirusTB> maco ok thanks
[19:24] <skreem> Howdy
[19:24] <VirusTB> mkquist, gOLDfeesh maco   ko thanks, back to work on this netbook
[19:24] <sena--> do you know good firewall that controlls the applications
[19:24] <mkquist> VirusTB: g/l
[19:24] <skreem> Ive just installed 9.10 and my wireless doesn't work (unlike the previous version) - There are a couple of drivers I've tried to activate in the Hardware Drivers section but when I click on Activate the window just hangs on downloading
[19:24] <zoug> piojunbabia: naah, you make it IN the IDE, dont make a seperate file and then compile.
[19:25] <zoug> piojunbabia: read the doc carefully, im sure you will get it
[19:25] <skreem> /whois $me
[19:25] <ChampS_> was gibts?
[19:25] <jpds> !de | ChampS_
[19:26] <NightEyes> After using my flash drive in a Virtual Box Virtual Machine running XUbuntu and Host Machine running Ubuntu my drive name disappears with a little box instead. It also wound mount format unmount or eject. I think this is because Virtual Box gave the name a char coding that is unreconized. Is there a way to fix my flash drive and to provent this from happening in the future
[19:26] <zoug> yawdp.
[19:26] <NightEyes> ?
[19:27] <piojunbabia> zoug: i used nano to edit text and terminal to compile and run too
[19:27] <piojunbabia> zoug: edit the code*
[19:27] <zoug> piojunbabia: so you can run right?
[19:27] <Phuzion> hello all... having a problem with Java it just freezes any windows needing to use it and I cannot close any programs associated with it, operating on 8.10
[19:27] <fdsa> hey
[19:27] <zoug> piojunbabia: you can do the same stuff from the ide that you downloade
[19:28] <Phuzion> *close any windows
[19:28] <skreem> Anyone have any luck getting a dell wireless 1490 card running in 9.10 ?
[19:28] <bdelin88> *****i am trying to use unetbootin to install the live cd to my usb drive, can i modify it to install into a folder on the usb drive rather than using the entire root of the drive?
[19:28] <sena--> NightEyes: how did you use your flash drive "in" VirtulaBox
[19:28] <fdsa> anybody know of a great resource on making custom minimal ubuntu live discs?
[19:28] <eligere> hey can anyone here please start private chat with me. i need some assistance setting up an ssh server with ubuntu 7.10 server edition. any replies are greatly appreciated.
[19:28] <bdelin88> fdsa: try xubuntu
[19:29] <Phuzion> skreem.... I think 1490 is a generic output for your card cause it can't be read
[19:29] <piojunbabia> zoug: it did run. that means it recognize the default package which is "java.lang.*" but other packages were not recognized...
[19:29] <Phuzion> who is the manufacturer?
[19:29] <fdsa> bdelin88, thanks but any info on how to do it, im working on software and some windows friends want to try it
[19:29] <sena--> NightEyes: did you create a .vdi file on a flash drive or what
[19:29] <bdelin88> just download from the website, search google for xubuntu
[19:29] <llutz> eligere: "sudo aptitude install openssh-server" on server, "ssh user@server" at client, done
[19:30] <bdelin88> *****i am trying to use unetbootin to install the live cd to my usb drive, can i modify it to install into a folder on the usb drive rather than using the entire root of the drive?
[19:30] <jpds> bdelin88: No, otherwise it won't boot I think.
[19:30] <Phuzion> hello all... having a problem with Java it just freezes any windows needing to use it and I cannot close any windows associated with it, operating on 8.10
[19:30] <kermit> how do i turn some png files into a pdf?
[19:30] <jacquesdupontd> wow it seems very very hard i don't understand half of what i'm doing
[19:30] <bkeating> im trying to install the following on Ubuntu 7.04 -- solr-common solr-tomcat5.5 libxpp3-java  how can i get apt-get to install these missing packages?
[19:30] <bdelin88> jpds: i can't change the files to point to that folder, i'm sure there is a way
[19:30] <jacquesdupontd> but if i managed would be incredible
[19:31] <bkeating> i assume they are not included in 7.04 repos....
[19:31] <Slurpee> i changed my /etc/hosts file for a domain to point to a specific IP.  when i ping the domain, i ping the correct IP.  when I open the domain in a web browser, it opens the wrong location.  it worked last night, but now it doesnt :(
[19:31] <fdsa> bdelin88, so is there a way to customize the iso (id like to install my opengl app and graphics drivers on it)
[19:31] <sena--> kermit: i think you can do that with gimp
[19:31] <zoug> piojunbabia: ran from ide?
[19:31] <robbmunson> !remaster | fdsa
[19:31] <bdelin88> fdsa: that's really complicated, beyond what i know how to do
[19:31] <piojunbabia> zoug: from terminal
[19:31] <NightEyes> Set permisions for VBox for my user. Drive was mounted on host and I clicked on the devices menu and addd the flash drive in the virtual machine. I added 2 files, 1 ISO and 1 md5 file to the flash drive. The tried to access them on the host machine after shutting down VM. I can access all files just fine but can't mount or anything else. I woud go in Terminal as root but the drive doesn't have a name that is reconized.
[19:32] <tazman1> need a little help i am running ubuntu 64 bit 9.1 i am using onboard sound mobo ga-m61pme-s2p
[19:32] <fdsa> robbmunson, ubottu thanks!
[19:32] <robbmunson> fdsa: have you looked that up? (I am not sure if that might solve what youre trying to do, but I just peeked my head in)
[19:32] <bdelin88> robbmunson: do you know how to point the live usb to look inside of a specific folder?
[19:32] <zoug> piojunbabia: what is wrong with the ide? try compiling through ide. if it says something is missing, search it from synaptic and install it.
[19:32] <elnovato> HELP!!!! How to setup MSSQL libraries for PHP on Ubuntu 9.10 ??
[19:32] <tazman1> i cannot get the line in working on my onboard audio
[19:32] <Phuzion> hello all... having a problem with Java it just freezes any windows needing to use it and I cannot close any windows associated with it, using on 8.10
[19:32] <NightEyes> skreem: is that wireless card for Laptops?
[19:33] <fdsa> robbmunson, not entirely sure but i guess it could work
[19:33] <robbmunson> bdelin88: it requires tweaking some of the files in the folder structure....and I am not totally confident in my abilities on that :(
[19:33] <robbmunson> bdelin88: sorry.
[19:33] <zoug> skreem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092&highlight=dell+wireless+1490
[19:33] <bdelin88> robbmunson: eh that's cool
[19:33] <Phuzion> I think skreem is gone?
[19:33] <fdsa> robbmunson, my opengl app isn't really windows compatible so i just want to put nvidia drivers and my app on it
[19:33] <piojunbabia> zoug: which ide do you mean?
[19:33] <db__> hiho
[19:33] <skreem> I found a page that's helping me: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Known_PCI_devices
[19:33] <zoug> piojunbabia: eclipse
[19:34] <db__> can someone give me a hint, how i can enable a serial console in grub in 9.10 server?
[19:34] <robbmunson> fdsa: that should help you then :) (in fact I am 99.9% sure thats the right page for what youre looking for.)
[19:34] <terrorinkorporat> if i extra a linux image onto another partition can i just point grub to that image and have it boot into that os
[19:34] <piojunbabia> zoug: i dont see the compile button there....
[19:34] <fdsa> robbmunson, thanks a bunch
[19:34] <robbmunson> fdsa: sure :)
[19:34] <zoug> piojunbabia: sad, let me check it for you
[19:34] <Phuzion> If anyone can help I'm having a problem with Java it just freezes any windows needing to use it and I cannot close any windows associated with it, using 8.10
[19:35] <NightEyes> skreem: if it is for laptops and it came from dell chances are the Wireless card is a white labeled Intel Pro Wireless
[19:35] <soUPERMan> anyone here using crunchbang?
[19:35] <robbmunson> !anyone | soUPERMan
[19:35] <terrorinkorporat> if i extra a linux image onto another partition can i just point grub to that linux and have it boot into that os
[19:35] <bdelin88> ubuntu live cd/usb keeps messing with my windows system time, how can i stop that
[19:35] <skreem> Going to reboot and see if fwcutter install worked. Thanks
[19:35] <piojunbabia> zoug: thank you, however the document is too long to read...
[19:36] <kermit> terrorinkorporat: yeah
[19:36] <tazman1> i have found lots of people with the same problem who said you can fix it with  a little tweaking but haven't figured out how nor did it say how they did
[19:36] <lenovo_> i have the same problem with my time changing on ubuntu
[19:36] <zoug> piojunbabia: lol
[19:37] <soUPERMan> Can someone help me with crunchbang, im trying to change the time display to am/pm
[19:37] <zoug> piojunbabia: http://www.vogella.de/articles/Eclipse/article.html
[19:37] <zoug> piojunbabia: that should help
[19:38] <piojunbabia> zoug: :D thanks....
[19:38] <robbmunson> soUPERMan: have you tried asking in #crunchbang (their official room) ?
[19:38] <robbmunson> 2 seconds too late, heh.
[19:39] <tazman1> can anyone tell me how i can go about fixing this sound problem
[19:39] <sena--> NightEyes: i am still confuse how you can "access all files just fine but can't mount or anything else"
[19:40] <sena--> NightEyes: unplug see with mount command as root which drives are mounted
[19:40] <NightEyes> the drive gets mounted but then I can't unmount or rename the flash drive so I can access it in the terminal
[19:40] <skreem> My wireless is now working :-)
[19:40] <skreem> Time to tweak Quake Live
[19:40] <sena--> NightEyes: aha does it get mounted automatically when you plug it in
[19:41] <terrorinkorporat> where is menu.lst in ubuntu
[19:41] <NightEyes> Yes
[19:41] <NightEyes> I do get errors
[19:41] <maco> terrorinkorporat: /boot/grub/menu.lst but if you're using grub2 you should look at /boot/grub/grub.cfg which is generated from the "sudo update-grub" command after you edit other files in that directory
[19:41] <NightEyes> errors when trying to unmount it
[19:41] <iceroot> terrorinkorporat: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:41] <sena--> try umount -f /dev/yourdrive
[19:41] <thevishy> hello any software to cool the laptop ?
[19:42] <sena--> NightEyes: maybe some application is using data from this device and its busy
[19:42] <theball> could some one please direct me on how to set up my ntfs storage drive so that i do not have to log into it each time i reboot, please
[19:42] <Snausages> thevishy: you might use kpowersave to slow down your laptop- that would save power and produce less heat
[19:42] <sAnta89_> !fstab | theball
[19:42] <db__> Has someone an idea why the karmic serial grub console aint working: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto ?
[19:43] <NightEyes> VM is shut down how can I kill any other processes that might make it busy
[19:43] <NightEyes> the name is also not reconized anymore
[19:43] <thevishy> ok i will check that , btw my computer currently is sort of idling hanging after I give install for a software in Ubuntu Software Center
[19:43] <theball> thank you for the link, i am not proficiant at fstab by hand unfortunetly, i'll go read the link
[19:43] <tazman1> thanks for ignoring me this is worse than yahoo at least they tell you to screw off
[19:43] <NightEyes> It used to say Flash Drive 2 and it's been replaced with a Box
[19:43] <thevishy> It shows In progress but I dont see any thing in the right window
[19:44] <sena--> NightEyes: your drive is a device it is located in the /dev directory
[19:44] <NightEyes> I did gksudo nautilus changed name back. But computer still sees it as the other setting
[19:44] <zoug> piojunbabia: it should work. all you need to do is read. :)
[19:45] <dewyd> hi
[19:45] <sena--> NightEyes:just type mount as root
[19:45] <sena--> and see which devices are mounted
[19:45] <piojunbabia> zoug: yes sir.... my eyes almost battery empty... :/
[19:45] <robbmunson> hello dewyd
[19:45] <iooqq> what utilities are typically used to find out information about running processes? any sort of information that'll lead me to identify what the thing actually is
[19:46] <robbmunson> iooqq: theres ps for starters :)
[19:46] <maverick_> iooqq: system --> administration --> system monitor
[19:46] <syn-ack> iooqq, you can use ps or
[19:46] <syn-ack> theres top
[19:46] <sena--> iooqq: top and ps
[19:46] <syn-ack> any number of utils
[19:46] <db__> Has someone an idea why the karmic serial grub console aint working: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto ?
[19:46] <iceroot> for what is "source"? i am using it fo executing files like .bashrc but is there anything else it is for?
[19:46] <NightEyes> correct me if I'm wrong but in order to type sudo mount I would need to type sudo mount [DEVICE NAME] I can't do this because the name isn't reconized
[19:46] <terrorinkorporat> can grub 2 boot iso's ?
[19:46] <piojunbabia> zoug: the one you sent shows different interface...
[19:47] <Gideon> IT WORKS
[19:47] <Gideon> :)
[19:47] <Gideon> ty all
[19:47] <FloodBot2> Gideon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:47] <sena--> NightEyes: just type sudo -i
[19:47] <sena--> enter your password
[19:47] <piojunbabia> zoug: and the example that he showed does not have the packages i need...
[19:47] <sena--> and the just mount
[19:47] <llutz> iceroot: Read and execute commands from FILENAME and return
[19:47] <zoug> piojunbabia: cause its for windows, but has the same steps, instead of the dos terminal you have the gnome terminal
[19:47] <sena--> to see which drive is mounted where
[19:47] <h4f> there was a hex editor "biew" what happened to it. its not in repos ?
[19:48] <terrorinkorporat> can grub 2 boot iso's ?
[19:48] <sena--> and by drive I mean a device which represents partition normally
[19:48] <Status0> hello to alll
[19:48] <piojunbabia> zoug: need more reading.....
[19:48] <scrawl> h4f: have you tried ghex2?
[19:48] <zoug> piojunbabia: open synaptic and type java and tell me if anything you see is installed
[19:48] <iceroot> llutz: ah ok, so an interpreter undependend from bash, zsh or something else
[19:48] <scrawl> its the best imo
[19:48] <h4f> scrawl I want some comand line tool
[19:48] <Status0> i installing ubuntu-server-9-10 on VirtualBox, do anybody have tips ?
[19:48] <scrawl> ok
[19:49] <iceroot> Status0: for what?
[19:49] <terrorinkorporat> can grub 2 boot iso's ?
[19:49] <florian> hi all
[19:49] <Status0> for cool things that i can do withit ?
[19:49] <zoug> piojunbabia: plus you need to read the whole manual. i strongly recommend to read the pdf you downloaded.
[19:49] <iceroot> terrorinkorporat: yes
[19:49] <NightEyes> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[19:49] <NightEyes> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[19:49] <NightEyes> none on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[19:49] <NightEyes> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[19:49] <NightEyes> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[19:49] <FloodBot2> NightEyes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <NightEyes> none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[19:49] <cybernout> hi there
[19:49] <robbmunson> whoaaaa
[19:49] <iceroot> Status0: using linux is a cool thing
[19:49] <terrorinkorporat> do u know how to do it iceroot or a source to show me how ?
[19:49] <florian> Does anyone know a good webbased document management system? open source of course
[19:49] <iceroot> !grub | terrorinkorporat
[19:50] <radoe> iceroot: no, source is a shell builtin, it executes the given script in the context of the current shell without forking a new process.
[19:50] <piojunbabia> zoug: ok, but i cant read now, my eyes started to get hurt
[19:50] <Status0> iceroot, sure ! :-) but, i just testing this env.  i want get more info.
[19:50] <theball> ubottu, my drive is not listed in fstab but it shows up in menu places and when i try to access it it asks for root password for the initial browse then its fully usable, any suggestions?
[19:50] <terrorinkorporat> ty
[19:50] <ali3n> hello, i just installed ubuntu on my dell xps m1330 and well i cant use wifi yet help me pls
[19:50] <iceroot> radoe: ok, good to know
[19:50] <aboSamoor> Hi, where can I find a grammatical checker in ubuntu ?
[19:50] <zoug> piojunbabia: thats a totally diff issue. :D
[19:51] <robbmunson> theball: ubottus not going to answer you directly, its just a bot that shovels around tidbits of information :)
[19:51] <cybernout> cant install google chrome ( due to libnss3-1d ) tips are welcome to get it installed
[19:51] <sena--> NightEyes: so you have one big hard disk which has one partition mounted in the moment the device sda1
[19:51] <sena--> NightEyes: is it so?
[19:51] <theball> oh, oops im new to irc
[19:51] <dalfz> how can i use offline files with nas?
[19:51] <piojunbabia> zoug: indeed! its 4am! :D
[19:52] <NightEyes> Well 1GB
[19:52] <NightEyes> *GB
[19:52] <cybernout> cant install google chrome ( due to libnss3-1d ) tips are welcome to get it installed
[19:52] <NightEyes> 8GB
[19:52] <piojunbabia> zoug: by the way. i have a very long list of java on synaptic
[19:52] <zoug> piojunbabia: let me know if jre is installed
[19:52] <ali3n> any help?
[19:53] <sena--> NightEyes: this nones are not good i do not know why and how it is
[19:53] <robbmunson> ali3n: your question got lost in the shuffle for me...mind repeating?
[19:53] <NightEyes> The drive is 8GB
[19:53] <zoug> piojunbabia: sun-java6-jre
[19:53] <ali3n> hello, i just installed ubuntu on my dell xps m1330 and well i cant use wifi yet help me pls
[19:53] <Mainstay> Does anyone have any info on this problem, it makes me want to stab myself: my editor doesn't detect that the currently open file has changed on disk (and prompt me to reload). This happens with files across a network. Any input on how to deal with this, background on this if it's a known issue etc?
[19:53] <sena--> NightEyes: but it seems as you have unmouted your system partition
[19:54] <ali3n> dont think i have sound too lol
[19:54] <Callum> oh god no
[19:54] <piojunbabia> zoug: i though i only need jdk, well i do have jre too...
[19:54] <Callum> I think my filesystem just crapped out...
[19:54] <Callum> Firefox just crashed, and I get filesystem reading errors when I try to login to another tty...
[19:54] <db__> I would like to create a second grub2 boot option for booting with serial console, how can is do this?
[19:54] <zoug> piojunbabia: and yeah, hit the reload button before you change stuff
[19:54] <Callum> WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED
[19:54] <Mikelevel> Callum: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[19:54] <sena--> NightEyes: and maybe that is why you could not unmount this partiton
[19:54] <zoug> piojunbabia: u need both i think
[19:55] <NightEyes> I did that by doing gksudo nautilus going to dir and renname it. But once unmounted I can't mount because of the naming of it
[19:55] <robbmunson> !es
[19:55] <IdleOne> TEST TEST TEST
[19:55] <Mikelevel> IdleOne: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[19:55] <sena--> NightEyes: try to restart and check the mount command again
[19:55] <ali3n> help with wifi please :D
[19:55] <NightEyes> ok
[19:55] <Status0> guys i have another question it's kind'a wird question, how shoud i start develop Linux community in Israel, with more focus on new guys ?
[19:56] <Callum> so, I'm screwed, only XChat survives and I can't login to another TTY because of my screwed filesystem...
[19:56] <Jamed> Callum: man fsck
[19:56] <Callum> Jamed: I can't do ANYTHING, no shell works
[19:56] <piojunbabia> zoug: yes i have both...
[19:56] <cybernout> alin3n there should be a list for wireless in the right top of your screen
[19:56] <zoug> piojunbabia: okay, i got this. install sun-java6-jdk
[19:56] <Jamed> Callum: any other computers you could use?
[19:56] <valros> hrm, why wont the archive manager extract this bin file?
[19:56] <arand_> Callum: fsck -fy, from recovery boot option or livecd
[19:56] <zoug> piojunbabia: you have that?
[19:56] <Howard_Kindig> Does anyone know how to delete (unsubscribe) from a folder in Ubuntu One? (I accepted a share from someone else, and I now want to delete that folder from my account...but I don't see any way to do this...)
[19:57] <ali3n> cybernout there isnt
[19:57] <piojunbabia> zoug: yes i do
[19:57] <Callum> Jamed: yes
[19:57] <zoug> okay, so everything should work fine
[19:57] <thevishy> will kpowersave work with gnome
[19:57] <thevishy> i am gnomer
[19:57] <ali3n> just sees my wired connections
[19:57] <robbmunson> Callum: contrary to your statement I dont think youre totally lost yet...always a backup plan with the live cd's :)
[19:57] <cybernout> alin3n did you turn it off on the laptop itself
[19:57] <zoug> piojunbabia: probably some settings you need to change
[19:57] <ali3n> nope
[19:57] <zoug> piojunbabia: OR read the doc! :D
[19:57] <Jamed> Callum: you could watch the man page there but arand_ already said what to do
[19:57] <piojunbabia> zoug: i do believe so...
[19:57] <ikonia> HELLO
[19:57] <Callum> arand_: Okay...
[19:58] <ali3n> think i need to install the driver or something but idk how
[19:58] <piojunbabia> zoug: yay..
[19:58] <Callum> do you think all my data can be saved? =( there is source code on this that hasn't been backed up and I NEED this data to be safe
[19:58] <IdleOne> ikonia: might need more text
[19:58] <ikonia> THIS IS JUST A TEST MESSAGE
[19:58] <Mikelevel> ikonia: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[19:58] <IdleOne> yup
[19:59] <_agn_> hi, i can't hear any sound as normal user
[19:59] <cybernout> alin3n wich version of ubuntu
[19:59] <_agn_> it works if am root
[19:59] <_agn_> i removed pulseaudio and disabled gdm
[19:59] <_agn_> any idea ?
[19:59] <_agn_> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[20:00] <Jamed> Callum: i think you can recover with fsck
[20:00] <_agn_> is what i get if i try it as a normal user
[20:00] <arand_> Callum: I do not know.
[20:00] <ali3n> how do i get my wifi to work
[20:00] <Callum> Jamed: okay, now I have to figure out how to reboot this thing cleanly...
[20:00] <cybernout> alin3n wich version of ubuntu
[20:00] <ali3n> 9.10 :)
[20:00] <ali3n> fresh install :D
[20:00] <cybernout> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingUbuntuOnADellXPSM1330
[20:00] <Callum> can't umount the drive, can't get to a reboot button because GNOME has otherwise died
[20:00] <robbmunson> Callum: what version of ubuntu are ya on?
[20:01] <thevishy> well my fans are running real fast I dont know y
[20:01] <Jamed> Callum: tough decision, i'd say just shutdown and boot a live cd
[20:01] <Callum> robbmunson: 9.10
[20:01] <robbmunson> Correct me if I am wrong but the escape key is how you get to grubs menu right?
[20:01] <Callum> God, this happens EVERY time I use an ext4 filesystem
[20:01] <nicholas562> Anybody familiar with the fact that the 9.10 release has problems with the python module "python-visual"? When loading the module in python with "from visual import *" python exists with a segment fault error message. It's a totally fresh installation of 9.10.
[20:01] <IdleOne> robbmunson: correct
[20:01] <arand_> Callum: keycombination for safe killing of kernel: alt+SysReq+(R-E-I-S-U-B)
[20:02] <Status0> dose Joho here ?
[20:02] <Callum> my SysReq key is also the Print Screen key...
[20:02]  * robbmunson is backing down from that support request as arand_ has pretty much got it covered I believe :)
[20:02] <archangelpetro> is there any software for ubuntu that can take input from the mic and then tell the note of the voice? like a guitar tuner, for the voice..
[20:02] <robbmunson> Callum: that shouldnt matter :)
[20:02] <Jamed> Callum: i still dont use ext4 because i fear exactly what happend to you
[20:02] <always_smile> hello everybody,anyone can tell me how to run auto-run cds,dvds.i already got the restricted extras,vlc &libdvdcss2 but i still can't play them,thanks
[20:02] <cybernout> alin3n http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1146475
[20:03] <thevishy> i just cant understand why the comp suddenly is getting overheated with ractically no heavy apps running
[20:04] <ali3n> theres nothing in hardware though
[20:04] <itilious> is there a way to enable the hard "eject button" on my cd drive in ubuntu?
[20:04] <itilious> seems to be only way i can eject is if i right click the drive and choose eject
[20:04] <sena--> always_smile: with vlc you can play almost any video file format
[20:04] <cybernout> alin3n in driver manager?
[20:04] <llutz> itilious: umount cd/dvd, then the button will eject
[20:05] <LinuxPhreak1> Just rebooted machine no luck. The folling URL contains images of what my flash drive looks like after being used by Virtual Box http://bdtsworld.myftp.org/images/
[20:05] <itilious> so the eject button on dvd/cd drives doesnt work in ubuntu?
[20:05] <sena--> always_smile: so you can just browse your cd dvd directorys and open the video files with vlc
[20:05] <alien> ya
[20:05] <llutz> itilious: it works, it is blocked if media is in use/mounted
[20:05] <arand_> llutz: I'm also interested in this, how come the eject button does not initiate unmounting?
[20:05] <cybernout> alin3n you could try an update over ethernet....
[20:05] <DarkStar_> how so?
[20:05] <itilious> i see
[20:06] <llutz> arand_: idk, it should do
[20:06] <always_smile> sena--: i already tried with vls,media player and others,but i still can not open them :(
[20:06] <DarkStar_> Im ali3n i just killed that session lol
[20:06] <thevishy> which is the best browser on ubuntu ? FF/chrome or ?
[20:06] <DarkStar_> E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic
[20:07] <robbmunson> !best | thevishy
[20:07] <LinuxPhreak1> Is it possible to fix the name problem with my device? How
[20:08] <zinox> how i do to change screen resolution  i am get error "monitor driver not suported to use extension...." when i change screen resolution on nvidia-settings and i try save it in xorg.conf i get error too.. somebody know how i change and fix any screen resolution?
[20:08] <sena--> always_smile: open your package amnage write vlc and see if libvls0 libvlc0-dev are installed
[20:08] <thevishy> ofcourse just want to know the opinion on chrome in Ubuntu
[20:08] <piojunbabia> how can i be a registered freenode user?
[20:09] <sena--> always_smile: can you play other video files with vlc
[20:09] <piojunbabia> zoug: how can i register in freenode?
[20:09] <llutz> !register | piojunbabia
[20:09] <DarkStar_> this sucks :(
[20:09] <piojunbabia> thanks
[20:09] <zinox> this new xorg.con is so strange .-.
[20:09] <zinox> xorg.conf*
[20:10] <zoug> piojunbabia: http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode
[20:11] <DarkStar_> do how do i get my wifi to work if theres no drivers listed?
[20:12] <LinuxPhreak1> DarkStar_: did your try the NDISWrapper package to use drivers
[20:12] <sladek3> asi mám pc totální socku
[20:13] <DarkStar_> there is no ndiswrapper
[20:13] <maco> !cz | sladek3
[20:13] <Richard123> Hi, my ubuntu has crashed, the HD is partitioned and I still have windowsXP - does anyone know of someway/software to view the user files on the non-windows HD partition? Thanks.
[20:13] <sladek3> o.k.
[20:13] <LinuxPhreak1> DakrStar_: You mean no NDISWrapper for that driver?
[20:13] <soreau> Richard123: You can use a live cd
[20:13] <robbmunson> DarkStar_: might I recommend if you have a hard line connection somewhere using that to download ndiswrapper and trying to install said driver again?
[20:13] <SwedeMike> Richard123: boot a livecd with ubuntu, that's probably the easiest way.
[20:14] <soreau> Richard123: Or there are ext fs drivers for windoze
[20:14] <DarkStar_> im hardline now where is ndiswrapper?
[20:14] <robbmunson> DarkStar_: sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper I believe...
[20:14] <soreau> DarkStar_: Which wifi card do you have as reported by the output of 'lspci'? (if it's not a usb device)
[20:14] <robbmunson> DarkStar_: type this in a terminal window :)
[20:14] <LinuxPhreak1> DarkStar_: apt-get or Synaptic and download them
[20:14] <DarkStar_> that worked sudo aptitude install ndiswrapper
[20:15] <Richard123> Soreau, If I boot a cd - will I loose data on the drive?
[20:15] <DarkStar_> now what?
[20:15] <soreau> Richard123: No. The live cd specifically tells you it will not make any changes to your computer. It runs in RAM, but can still perform r/w on the hdd
[20:16] <robbmunson> LinuxPhreak1: I stepped on your toes I believe on this one, sorry friend.
[20:16] <WizardOfOz> Guess who!
[20:16] <DarkStar_> how do i run ndiswrapper?
[20:16]  * Callum sighs
[20:16] <Callum> What a bloody good scare that was
[20:16] <LinuxPhreak1> robbmuson: we're all here to help each other not a problem
[20:16] <robbmunson> Callum: fixed?
[20:17] <Richard123> soreau, OK, is this the same CD I installed Ubuntu with originally? do I just run it in windows? (sorry, just checking).
[20:17] <LinuxPhreak1> now the NDIS package should reconize them
[20:17] <LinuxPhreak1> if not then use
[20:17] <Callum> After booting into Mythbuntu 9.10 LiveCD and finding that its fsck is useless and doesn't respond to anything, I rebooted back into this Ubuntu and found that fsck repaired the filesystem before it booted...
[20:17] <LinuxPhreak1> ndiswrapper comand with the name of the .inf file in Terminal
[20:17] <soreau> Richard123: 1) Yes. 2) No.
[20:17] <soreau> Richard123: It is bootable, meaning you boot with that cd
[20:18] <WizardOfOz> How do I make my Mic to work on Acer Zg5
[20:18] <DarkStar_> idk the .inf file :(
[20:18] <Callum> robbmunson: in other words yes
[20:18] <Callum> what puzzles me more is how it happened though =/
[20:18] <robbmunson> Callum: yay
[20:19] <Callum> I just pressed the 'Back' button on Firefox and everything just came crashing down
[20:19] <rish> ma chuda lo
[20:19] <DarkStar_> where do i get the .inf file?
[20:19] <robbmunson> Callum: sometimes all it takes is nothing..(strange but its true)
[20:19] <zinox> i cant save nvidia-settins conf because i get error >> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'! man... this xorg.conf on ubuntu 9.10 is so strange... i don't know why i have do to fix any screen resolution.. when i change it .. after reboot resets to 1024x76..
[20:19] <LinuxPhreak1> DarkStar_: excuse me for going back to beginning best way to persus this is go to Ubuntu Package Manager search NDIS and install restart and should be working
[20:19] <DarkStar_> so i have it isntalled. reboot the pc?
[20:20] <Callum> zinox: use nvidia-settings as a superuser ('sudo nvidia-settings')
[20:20] <strywgr> zinox.
[20:20] <DarkStar_> if so bbib :)
[20:20] <DarkStar_> gonna reboot :)
[20:20] <zinox> i did it
[20:20] <DarkStar_> exit
[20:20] <DarkStar_> oops
[20:20] <DarkStar_> lol
[20:20] <LinuxPhreak1> DarkStar_: If not lets do terminal but you'll need to download the driver to
[20:20] <FloodBot2> DarkStar_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:20] <strywgr> zinox : sudo nvidia-xconfig
[20:20] <zinox> i got same error >> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[20:20] <Richard123> soreau, thank you: so I put in the same CD I originally downloaded, and boot the machine with it in, then access the data, save it somewhere, and reinstall?
[20:20] <zinox> as root too
[20:20] <xpot-mobile> Help: I have install ubuntu 9.10 using Intel 82945G/GZ video card and I can only get 800x600 resolution.  any suggestions?
[20:21]  * Callum is afraid to use 'Back' button on Firefox
[20:21] <strywgr> kindly follow the command im asking you to.
[20:21] <boss_mc> zinox: try moving your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak then using nvidia-config as root
[20:21] <strywgr> zinox : sudo nvidia-xconfig   - type this and tell me the output.
[20:21] <zinox> ok
[20:21] <soreau> Richard123: Correct.
[20:21] <robbmunson> Callum: wont know its fixed unless you  try what you originally pulled (that SHOULDNT have blew your computers FS to pieces)
[20:21] <BHOK9> Olá
[20:21] <Richard123> soreau: thank you:-)
[20:21] <BHOK9> HI
[20:21] <Callum> robbmunson: it was just a Google search result =(
[20:22] <robbmunson> Callum: well, go for it and try it...we're always here for ya :)
[20:22] <strywgr> zinox : done?
[20:22] <zinox> not yet
[20:23] <strywgr> zinox : sudo nvidia-xconfig   - type this and tell me the output.
[20:23] <LinuxPhreak1> Anyone no how to fix the following http://bdtsworld.myftp.org/images/ the I need to fix the name of the drives
[20:23] <Callum> well, going back to the same page and then pressing Back doesn't do it anymore...
[20:23] <robbmunson> Callum: I would say "issue resolved" then! :)
[20:23] <zinox> blank output
[20:23] <Callum> =P
[20:23] <strywgr> aright, now do -> sudo nvidia-settings
[20:23] <strywgr> and try to save the settings.
[20:24] <zinox> i am try install nvdia-config command
[20:24] <Callum> maybe my filesystem was just tired, Ubuntu hasn't done the usual check filesystem every once in a while thing since this was installed around 2 months ago
[20:24] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: what filesystem?
[20:24] <zinox> i don't know what package provide it
[20:24] <strywgr> are you using any graphics card?
[20:24] <mattgyver> LinuxPhreak1, maybe just try and cheat, do a sudo nautlius <path to directory above> and see if you can f2 and rename it
[20:24] <zinox> fx5500
[20:24] <LinuxPhreak1> llutz: I believe ext2 or 3
[20:24] <LinuxPhreak1> How would I know
[20:24] <robbmunson> Callum: if ever in doubt you can always force a filesystem check :)
[20:25] <Callum> robbmunson: okay =P
[20:25] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: tune2fs -L newname /dev/sdXY
[20:25] <robbmunson> Callum: man fsck
[20:26] <robbmunson> Callum: should tell you what you need to know to do it manually so that youre not surprised later on.
[20:26] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: sdXY taken from"sudo fdisk -l"
[20:26] <DarkStar> hey guys
[20:26] <DarkStar> thanks for the help :)
[20:26] <DarkStar> all working :D
[20:26] <Callum> okay
[20:26] <Callum> now, +1 to the list of abominations after my steering wheel's power supply dies...
[20:26] <LinuxPhreak1> llutz: pardon me for sounding stupid now. But type in what now step by step keep in mind I don't know the name of the oginal device
[20:27]  * Callum immediately backs up his source code
[20:27] <zinox> nvidia-xconfig make this xorg.conf >>http://pastebin.com/m26fd8717
[20:27] <robbmunson> Callum: superb idea :)
[20:27] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: pastebin output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[20:27] <llutz> !paste
[20:27] <Callum> bloody good scare that was
[20:27] <zinox> and nvidia-settings cant parse it
[20:27] <DarkStar_> sorry for the hassles. im use to gentoo lol
[20:27] <conner> I have been having problems with darker themes and my graphics card
[20:27] <DarkStar_> just ubuntu likes my wireless :D
[20:28] <PyroPhelia> I'm building a massive raid.  6 raid 6s across 45 hard drives.  3 of the raids have finished syncing but I need to bring the system down because building power is about to go out.  the final 2 raids won't finish syncing for several hours still.  If I lose power will the sync have to restart, or will it resume?
[20:28] <synapsys> DarkStar_, what chipset you use?
[20:28] <LinuxPhreak1> have a paste bin URL please
[20:28] <llutz> !paste
[20:28] <conner> When I drag a window with a dark theme with compiz on the windo has cuts in it where the edge and the window itself is.
[20:28] <robbmunson> LinuxPhreak1: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:28] <llutz> please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:28] <synapsys> !help
[20:29] <LinuxPhreak1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/338908/
[20:29] <DarkStar_> intel 965
[20:29] <DarkStar_> its the dell 1505 :D
[20:29] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: that 8GB device sdf1?
[20:29] <LinuxPhreak1> llutz: correct
[20:30] <slashGreg> Pyro, are you using rsync?
[20:30] <zinox> nvidia-xconfig generate it >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/338909/
[20:30] <LinuxPhreak1> llutz: id 80? you see
[20:31] <LinuxPhreak1> llutz: 83 Imeant
[20:31] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: aeh, 0xD W95 FAT32
[20:32] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: sda1, your only 83/linux ist your root-fs
[20:32] <eitreach> Is there a way to install DLNA on Ubuntu?
[20:32] <MudyBoots> Ubuntu keeps crashing it freezes and then reboots, When it freezes I can't Ctrl-alt or stop it in anyway it is un-responsive. I looked in /var/logs/ I can't see anything
[20:32] <LinuxPhreak1> llutz: ok I see where you found sdf
[20:33] <LinuxPhreak1> luttz: so now what?
[20:33] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: "sudo apt-get install mtools"
[20:33] <zengeos> Hi ALL
[20:33] <Finnish> How can I convert a vob to xvid with Mencoder?
[20:34] <LinuxPhreak1> luttz: no need there installed just don't know where or how to use them
[20:34] <xpot-mobile> Help: I have install ubuntu 9.10 using Intel 82945G/GZ video card and I can only get 800x600 resolution.  any suggestions?
[20:34] <Callum> man, I should have rolled this into a tarball first, this is taking AGES, copying tons of small files between two ext4 filesystems...
[20:34] <TcP> anyone knows how to make virtual box go into full screen? when i click the full screen button the box just gets bigger but the screen stays the same size any ideas?
[20:34] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: then follow http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/03/01/editing-fat32-partition-labels-using-mtools/  just use /dev/sdf1 instead of sda2. It would be easier to use windows :)
[20:34] <lzrdking> WOO 4MiB download in KTorrent!
[20:34] <jrib> TcP: you need to install guest additions
[20:34] <Callum> TcP: Increase the resolution on your virtual machine as well...
[20:34] <zengeos> Having trouble installing Ubuntu LiveCD on an old Dell 2400 any help avail?
[20:35] <portn0k> zengeos: not without error messages
[20:35] <synapsys> zengeos, how far do you get
[20:35] <LinuxPhreak1> Haven't used a M$ software since 2000 so I doubt that
[20:35] <velcroshooz> TcP: you need to install 'Guest Additions' .. should be in the menu somewhere.
[20:35] <TcP> jrib is guest additions found in the repositories?
[20:35] <zengeos> Doesn't get to any error messages...loading LiveCD...brown screen after a couple lines referring to crypto
[20:35] <Callum> TcP: Guest Additions can be installed from the Virtual Machine window
[20:35] <jrib> TcP: your guest is ubuntu?
[20:35] <velcroshooz> TcP: its part of virtual box
[20:36] <Callum> Its installed into the guest operating system
[20:36] <ranjan> hello every body can any body can tell me in which directory system notification phytone script are located in ubuntu 9.10
[20:36] <zengeos> cd drive shows no activity and screen is blank...just brown
[20:36] <ranjan> please help
[20:36] <zinox> strywgr http://paste.ubuntu.com/338909/
[20:36] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: you might try http://paste.ubuntu.com/338912/  but make sure to copy/paste it exactly as shown and hope it works
[20:37] <TcP> Callum can you give me step by step on doing that?
[20:37] <synapsys> zengeos, what speed did you burn the cd at?
[20:37] <MudyBoots> Ubuntu keeps crashing it freezes and then reboots, When it freezes I can't Ctrl-alt or stop it in anyway it is un-responsive. I looked in /var/logs/ I can't see anything. The only Pattern  i can see is when i plug anything in audio ports it crashes and sometimes at Xorg start up , Works in Windows.
[20:37] <zengeos> 16x. Tested the cd with the utility in the boot menu of the live cd and it said it's fine.
[20:37] <jrib> TcP: what is your guest OS?
[20:38] <zengeos> Actually, guessing that...used default setting in K3B
[20:38] <synapsys> zengeos, can you boot to 'try without changing my computer' option?
[20:38] <zengeos> That's what I am trying to do
[20:38] <TcP> j rib my home os is ubuntu and the guest would be a live cd
[20:38] <osotogari> anyone intalled ubuntu on a samsung n510 before?
[20:38] <Callum> TcP: the Install Guest Additions option is found in the 'Devices' menu of the Virtual Machine window
[20:38] <zengeos> syn
[20:38] <Snausages> MudyBoots: so maybe your sound drivers are whack.  Maybe yank sound for a while to see if it stabilizes, add it again later?
[20:39] <Callum> for Linux distros, you will probably see the mounted Guest Additions ISO on the desktop but you will have to open the "autorun.sh" file inside there from a terminal window
[20:39] <LinuxPhreak1> llutz: for example http://paste.ubuntu.com/338914/
[20:39] <eitreach> can I install DLNA in Ubuntu?
[20:39] <zengeos> System loads up to the installing crypto package? synapsys, then the blank screen
[20:39] <jrib> Callum: if the guest is ubuntu, the guest additions are in the repositories
[20:39] <easyname> I followed 4 different guides in trying to set up my Linksys USB wireless adapter. Along the way, my ethernet connection stopped working and I still  haven't had any success with my wireless card. Can anyone help in this field? At least to get the ethernet working again if not the wireless card which is preferred.
[20:40] <velcroshooz> eitreach: for a ps3 or what?
[20:40] <Callum> jrib: Oh, really? cool =)
[20:40] <MudyBoots> Snausages, I need to un-install alsa ?
[20:40] <eitreach> velcroshooz, for a Nokia N900.
[20:40] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: yes, make sure it's 11 spaces after echo -n between the quotes
[20:40] <zengeos> Should I try Jaunty instead of Karmic?
[20:40] <synapsys> zengeos, i suggest trying alternate install cd, burn ad 4x
[20:40] <guntbert> TcP: do you know that there is #vbox too?
[20:40] <LinuxPhreak1> ok
[20:40] <genii> eitreach: There is no "DLNA" thing to install. DLNA is an alliance of manufacturers who are standardising their equipment to work with each other
[20:40] <llutz> LinuxPhreak1: and you have to use sudo to run it
[20:40]  * Callum checks the changelog for VirtualBox 3.1
[20:40] <synapsys> zengeos, if you have a jaunty cd i would pop it in and try
[20:40] <velcroshooz> eitreach: ooh no idea there
[20:40] <Snausages> MudyBoots: possibly....  I don't know sound well. :(
[20:41] <LinuxPhreak1> I figured that one
[20:41] <genii> eitreach: A "DLNA" server is a box whose equipment is all on that list
[20:41] <MudyBoots> Snausages, Thanks anyway worth a shot
[20:41] <zengeos> I have Jaunty somewhere...let me see if I can't find it. Mandriva 10 installed ok, but can't find the network card, so thought I'd try Ubuntu synapsys.
[20:41] <eitreach> genii, right..
[20:42] <zengeos> but Ubuntu won't even load live cd
[20:42] <zengeos> hrmmmph. used to ubuntu being easiest install of all
[20:42] <synapsys> i think mint took over that title
[20:42] <TcP> Callum i hit the install guest additions and the box didnt do anything
[20:43] <velcroshooz> genii: i imagine he is asking about streaming software specifically
[20:43] <zengeos> I have Mint also...perhaps I should try one of the Mint distros?
[20:43] <Callum> TcP: your guest is Ubuntu, right?
[20:43] <Tusk> hey there
[20:44] <easyname> I followed 4 different guides in trying to set up my Linksys USB wireless adapter. Along the way, my ethernet connection stopped working and I still  haven't had any success with my wireless card. Can anyone help in this field? At least to get the ethernet working again if not the wireless card which is preferred. I'm using 9.10, the adapter is a Linksys WUSB54GC v3.
[20:44] <Tusk> just to know in which directory is ubuntu storing the flash player plugin lib?
[20:44] <eitreach> genii, That's quite informative, and I appreciate that, but I still don't know if I'm able to connect my N900 when it arrives. I really need to know what to do to make it work, not how it works.
[20:45] <synapsys> zengeos, i would try 9.04 first to see if its your cd or ubuntu in general
[20:45] <synapsys> zengeos, i've installed ubuntu on 100's of computers, never had any problems
[20:46] <TcP> callum right
[20:46] <Callum> TcP: 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions' will install the Guest Additions ISO so VirtualBox can use it
[20:46] <daveinps> My Apple bluetooth keyboard won't work in Karmic.  BT Mouse works fine.  Can anyone assist me?
[20:46] <Callum>  oh wait
[20:46] <Callum> thats for a host =P
[20:47] <LinuxPhreak1> llutz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/338916/ gues I'll have to RTFM
[20:47] <Callum> nevermind that...={
[20:47] <Callum> TcP: so...you press Install Guest Additions and nothing happens?
[20:47] <guntbert> TcP: do I read correctly, that you have troubles installing the virtualbox guest additions?
[20:48] <TcP> Callum nop nothing happens
[20:48] <Callum> TcP: check your /media folder for any mounted folders
[20:48] <TcP> im going to install it using the repository
[20:48] <guntbert> Callum: you don't install the guest additions on the host :-)
[20:48] <Callum> TcP: that only provides the ISO image for hosts
[20:48] <TcP> Shit im just a proggrammer
[20:49] <zengeos> synapsys...I usually don't have any problems, but I usually install on AMD based systems rather than intel systems.
[20:49] <guntbert> TcP: in #vbox I'll try to walk you through the process - if you want
[20:49] <jMyles> Can mv work recursively?  For example, I want to mv *.avi from a tree of directories.
[20:49] <easyname> I followed 4 different guides in trying to set up my Linksys USB wireless adapter. Along the way, my ethernet connection stopped working and I still  haven't had any success with my wireless card. Can anyone help in this field? At least to get the ethernet working again if not the wireless card which is preferred. I'm using 9.10, the adapter is a Linksys WUSB54GC v3.
[20:50] <TcP> guntbert thanx but no thanx i want to you the virtual box that im allready using
[20:50] <jrib> jMyles: no, you need to either use your shell's globbing abilities or find
[20:50] <synapsys> zengeos, do you have the right arch e.g. 32 or 64 bit?
[20:51] <lzrdking> globbb
[20:51] <_Pb> i disabled gdm and now sound doesn't work under X
[20:51] <guntbert> TcP: of course, no changes in the host installation
[20:51] <zengeos> Yes, I have the 32 bit cd for her old Intel celeron
[20:51] <_Pb> i changed permissions, so that "aplay -l" and "alsamixer" work just fine and detect my soundcard, but gnome-volume-control does not
[20:51] <_Pb> xfce4-mixer sees my sound card, but gnome-volume-control doesn't
[20:51] <Alan502> My amarok crashes every 30 minutes, it always prompts me to report the bug. And i do report the bug but the plasma bug reporter says "it is not useful enough" and apparently i have to install some debugging packages. Which packages are these? I hate my music being cut every 5 songs :S
[20:52] <guntbert> TcP: you see: this channel is for ubuntu support, you need virtualbox support - and that is located in #vbox :-)
[20:52] <TcP> lol out of no where the guest os just crashed. i wonder what the problem was? wish i had my debugger hooked on it
[20:53] <TcP> guntbert lol o thanx dude
[20:53] <daveinps> my Apple Bluetooth keyboard won't work.  Mouse is OK.  Anyone help?
[20:53] <xpot-mobile> Help: I have installed ubuntu 9.10 using Intel 82945G/GZ video card and I can only get 800x600 resolution.  any suggestions?
[20:53] <osotogari> has anyone have any experience installing ubuntu on a samsung n510? just purchased and I am using windows at the moment :(
[20:54] <easyname> Last attempt to get help: I am trying to install a Linksys Wireless USB Adapter model WUSB54GC v3, can anyone assist me? Please? Or if you can just help me get the ethernet connection working so I at least have internet on my Ubuntu machine...
[20:54] <jrib> !wifi > easyname
[20:55] <easyname> jrib, thank you, I will check it out, but I have already tried 4 different guides, I was hoping for a live person to help troubleshoot.
[20:55] <jrib> easyname: you need to ask a detailed question for that
[20:56] <jMyles> jrib: I'm a little lost.  Is there no simple way to just move all files with a particular namespec to a different directory?
[20:56] <daveinps> anyone know how to make an apple bluetooth KB work?
[20:56] <jrib> easyname: also, official guide is usually the best place to go.  Following 4 random guides is a great way to make things worse
[20:56] <jrib> jMyles: there is, I gave you two
[20:56] <Arimoto> I'm trying to use a USB device on an Ubuntu machine and just noticed that USB was disabled in the BIOS.  I enabled it, but I don't see either usbcore or usb-uhci modules when I do lsmod.  Is it likely that my kernel is missing usb support?  If so, what do I need to do to get these missing modules?
[20:57] <trism> jMyles: you could do something like find directory_name -name *.avi -exec mv {} /path/to/output_directory \; check -print first though to make sure you have the right files
[20:57] <easyname> jrib, what other information should I add to my request? I gave my Ubuntu distro and the model of the card.
[20:57] <jMyles> trism: what is the {} in that command?
[20:57] <trism> jMyles: {} expands to the file path for each file find...finds
[20:57] <_Pb> okay, so apparently my audio permissions are messed up... sound only works if I start X as root
[20:57] <trism> jMyles: man find
[20:57] <jrib> easyname: whether or not you tried what the official guide suggests?  What you did try and what the result was?
[20:58] <forchettta> cao
[20:58] <forchettta> ciao
[20:58] <jMyles> trism, jrib: THanks :-)
[20:58] <forchettta> !list
[20:58] <jrib> _Pb: is your user part of the "audio" group?  and all those pulseaudio groups?
[20:59] <easyname> jrib, all of the guides I've followed have been through the Ubuntu forums. I didn't know there were official guides, they did not come up in my searches. I've tried ndiswrapper and the ralinktech drivers rt2870 and rt3070. The result has been my previously functional ethernet connection going down instead of my wireless connection coming up.
[21:01] <pvandewyngaerde> how can i show the folder documents in my locations ?
[21:01] <always_smile> hello ,VLC when play avi plays them fast,with no sound,what shall I do?
[21:02] <meowbuntu> hi exaile music player cant play mp3 files. needs plugin. anyone know where i can get it.
[21:03] <pvandewyngaerde> meowbuntu:   try to instal the restricted-extras
[21:03] <_Pb> jrib: i added my user to the audio group, didn't work
[21:03] <_Pb> jrib: i don't know what you mean by pulseaudio groups, though
[21:03] <jrib> _Pb: create a fresh new user, does sound work for this user?
[21:04] <_Pb> jrib: i'm downloading a ton of software according to a guide on the forums, i'll try that in a little bit
[21:04] <always_smile> hello,i've got a probem playing avi files with vlc,it plays files fact,without sound output,any idea?
[21:05] <FCalderon> always_smile, are you sure that you have all the required codecs? Do they play ok in other media players?
[21:05] <lootos> elo
[21:05] <always_smile> no they won't play with other media players FCalderon,but they open with windows
[21:06] <pvandewyngaerde> how can i add custom locations  in the main menu on top ??
[21:06] <FCalderon> always_smile, if you try to play them using totem, gxine or any other player, what error msg do you get?
[21:06] <always_smile> FCalderon: im not sure whether i have got all the right codecs,no
[21:06] <Guest58750> arghh my ubuntu 9.10 login theme is disgusting.. how to update it ? I can only see a login screen option from the admininstration menu
[21:06] <Guest58750> :(
[21:07] <meowbuntu> pvandewyngaerde, where do i get them from
[21:07] <alberto> Hello
[21:07] <_Pb> jrib: heh, i think this guide is telling me to update my kernel
[21:07] <alberto> Good evening
[21:07] <_Pb> hi
[21:07] <pvandewyngaerde> try the ubuntu software center
[21:07] <Guest58750> do i need to install the gdm??
[21:08] <jrib> _Pb: i would test a fresh new user before doing anything else
[21:08] <always_smile> when i try to open with mplayer,it shows same prolem but realplayer shows it has not got right codecs to play such files
[21:08] <FCalderon> Guest58750, try this: http://elwoodicious.com/2009/10/29/i-hate-ubuntu-9-10s-gdm-theme-so-much-i-tweaked-it-slacker-style/
[21:08] <_Pb> jrib: is it okay just to ctrl-z when aptitute is installing?
[21:08] <meowbuntu> pvandewyngaerde, who that last comment at me
[21:08] <jrib> _Pb: no
[21:08] <alberto> Has any of you set the home directory into an individual partition?
[21:08] <edbian> alberto: I have!  Want help?
[21:08] <alberto> edbian Yes, please
[21:09] <FCalderon> always_smile, then install all the codecs from the restricted software repos
[21:09] <edbian> alberto: Alrighty, what have you done so far?
[21:09] <TcP> how do you get around Busy Box?
[21:09] <edbian> TcP: Busy box loaded because of some error.  You could try "startx" or "gdm" though.
[21:09] <alberto> edbian I have installed Ubuntu 9.10
[21:09] <meowbuntu> pvandewyngaerde, i guess you telling me to do that .
[21:09] <always_smile> FCalderon: i already got the restricted extras,is there something else i should get beside?
[21:09] <ascott> tu
[21:09] <edbian> alberto: lol, ok  See me PM?
[21:10] <Guest58750> FCalderon: thanks, isnt there a standard way to update the login style?
[21:10] <daveinps> cant get apple bt keyboard to work.  any ideas? pleez?
[21:10] <alberto> edbian But I think I didn't do it properly
[21:10] <baner> hi is there any ubuntu spanish channel?
[21:10] <edbian> alberto: See my private message?
[21:10] <FCalderon> Guest58750, not that I'm aware of
[21:10] <FCalderon> baner, #ubuntu-es
[21:10] <meowbuntu> i not cluesd up on that sort of thing. i am looking for plugins that allpw me to play mp3s in exaile music player. now are they exaile or ubuntu plugins.
[21:10] <meowbuntu> ^ pvandewyngaerde
[21:10] <baner> thanks Fcaldero
[21:10] <_Pb> jrib: thanks for your help
[21:10] <FCalderon> baner, "de nada" :)
[21:11] <LetsGo67> How do I turn on the fan?
[21:12] <FCalderon> always_smile, try movie player (not mplayer) and paste the exact error msg you get
[21:12] <meowbuntu> anyone know y i cant play mp3 files in exaile music player i'm lost is that not the function of the music player.
[21:12] <LetsGo67> How do I turn on the fan on my Acer Aspire 5315?  It won't turn on and my computer turns off by itself because of everheating.
[21:12] <always_smile> ok FCalderon
[21:13] <always_smile> no error messages come FCalderon,but as i said,the vedeo play too fast,there no audio output there?
[21:14] <erUSUL> meowbuntu: you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed ?
[21:14] <thevishy> how to power of my laptop monitor when i am idling
[21:14]  * NaxoneZ nas
[21:14] <FCalderon> always_smile, does it happen with all .avi files or just a specific one?
[21:15] <jMyles> Is there a manager similar to F-spot but for video?
[21:15] <mizery> I'm running linux mint on a system and am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkMultifuncPrinters to install a Dell a920 (rebranded lexmark z600?) printer.  However, libstdc++5 is not available to install from synaptic. How come?  How can I install libstdc++5?
[21:15] <always_smile> with all avi files FCalderon
[21:15] <freaky[t]> mizery, theres libstdc++6
[21:16] <robbmunson> How do I run a simple bash script as a background process?
[21:16] <guntbert> !mint | mizery
[21:16] <meowbuntu> erUSUL, . no i have not updated ubuntu. am doing that now tehn if that not work i will try the restricted extras
[21:17] <meowbuntu> !mintsupport
[21:17] <thevishy> can i powe off monitor using some short key?
[21:17] <meowbuntu> !crunchbang
[21:18] <guntbert> !askthebot | meowbuntu
[21:18] <Alan502> lol
[21:18] <mizery> !mintsupport
[21:18] <Alan502> there is a factoid for everything!
[21:19] <FCalderon> always_smile, my best bet is that it's a codec issue, de-install al codecs and re-install them directly from repos
[21:20] <meowbuntu> mizery, if you are running linux mint then xchat will automatically run linuxmint channel
[21:20] <bastidrazor>                                                                                                                                           
[21:21] <meowbuntu> any ops here atm
[21:21] <mizery> meowbuntu, I'm running gentoo ^_^
[21:21] <meowbuntu> !ops
[21:21] <mizery> I'm assisting a user on another system.
[21:21] <jrib> meowbuntu: ?
[21:21] <LetsGo67> How do I turn on the fan on my Acer Aspire 5315?  It won't turn on and my computer turns off by itself because of everheating.
[21:21] <thevishy> !gentoo
[21:21] <Bridge|A> Can i not have more then one symbolic link point to the same directory?
[21:21] <Flannel> meowbuntu: Yes?
[21:21] <meowbuntu> mizery, whats he running
[21:21] <jrib> meowbuntu: why did you call !ops?
[21:21] <mizery> she's running linux mint
[21:21] <daveinps> how do i make an apple BT keyboard work in Karmic?
[21:22] <daveinps> bye
[21:22] <meowbuntu> Flannel, ubottu has outdated info reguarting !linuxmint. they changed their chat room to #linuxmint-help
[21:23] <jrib> meowbuntu: !ops is for channel emergencies only
[21:23] <Tonisius> I need to disable the /dev/mapper/ from being used, I am aware that grub2 has problems with onboard raids, in the bios raid is disabled,
[21:23] <olinuxx> i've just try to install a 9.10 (studio) but it was a bug. Not grave. Else since that, when i try to load my other OS (a 8.04), grub said :  "Grub loading stage 1.5" and after : "grub loading please wait". What can i do for boot on the 8.04 ?
[21:23] <always_smile> how can I do the deinsall and reinstall of codec FCalderon,please give me he easiest ways,im so begginer here
[21:23] <Tonisius> How do I go about this, this is for karmic 9.10 final
[21:23] <jrib> !ubottu > meowbuntu
[21:23] <LjL> !bot > meowbuntu    (meowbuntu, see the private message from ubottu) you can submit a factoid change request
[21:23] <meowbuntu> jrib, i'm new here i will remember that in future
[21:23] <rahduke> hello, my folder names on SAMBA Share are all messed up some of the folders get renamed to random letters and symbols
[21:23] <rahduke> any help?
[21:23] <FCalderon> always_smile, synaptic package manager, search for codecs and mark for deinstallation those that you will be removing
[21:24] <maverick_> how can i copy folders from the terminal...i tried mv, but it says cannot move directory not empty...i want to merge the files in both directories
[21:25] <jrib> maverick_: mv moves.  cp copies.  Use -r to copy recursively
[21:25] <maverick_> jrib: thanks a lot :D
[21:25] <olinuxx> no one for me ?
[21:26] <meowbuntu> LjL, how do i subnitt changes there
[21:26] <genii> LetsGo67: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=604158&page=7  posts 62, 66, 69  you may find useful
[21:26] <LjL> meowbuntu: /msg ubottu !no factoid-name is <reply> something else
[21:26] <meowbuntu> !mp3
[21:26] <Ronald> Winamp not Running
[21:27] <meowbuntu> LjL, in here
[21:27] <robbmunson> meowbuntu: you can always look through the bots factoids in a private message :)
[21:27] <LjL> meowbuntu: ?
[21:27] <VirusTB> gOLDfeesh,  uhm no good news
[21:27] <VirusTB> mkquist,  no good news
[21:27] <Alan502> !askthebot meowbuntu
[21:28] <VirusTB> maco no good news :(
[21:28] <VirusTB> maco , mkquist , gOLDfeesh  my netbook seems like it doesnt want to bot from the USB :S
[21:29] <cebosound> new to xubuntu and linux:)
[21:29] <Alan502> did you format your usb before installing ubuntu?
[21:29] <Alan502> *before copying the ubuntu installation
[21:30] <VirusTB> Alan502,  yes formated USB to FAT32 and then used Unetbooting
[21:30] <meowbuntu> LjL, is this right to paste in xchat  /msg ubottu !no mintsupport is  Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu, please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[21:30] <mNute101> Hi, how do i fix this error quick? http://paste-it.net/public/ga8e8f5/
[21:30] <LjL> meowbuntu: as long as you put no space before the /, yes
[21:31] <VirusTB> Alan502,  i got an Acer Aspire one, and i got no GRUB :(  i get a "grub error 17" on boot
[21:31] <LetsGo67> genii: what does all of that mean?
[21:31] <meowbuntu> LjL, i am wanting to tell mintbot about the new chanell linuxmint has now.
[21:31] <Alan502> VirusTB, you didnt use the ubuntu utility? the USB startup disk creator
[21:31] <hackel> How can I  automatically remove an extension from about 2000 files recursively (and interactively, don't want to overwrite anything that already exists)?
[21:31] <Alan502> VirusTB, how about reinstalling grub
[21:31] <Alan502> !grub | VirusTB
[21:31] <mNute101> Hi, how do i fix this error quick? http://paste-it.net/public/ga8e8f5/
[21:31] <meowbuntu> LjL, #linuxmint-help is the main help chanel
[21:32] <jayce> hey guys - major problem but a quick question - just installed jaunty 64 bit on TWO identical dell latitude e6500 laptops. I assigned a static IP to each one in the network interface file. One is fine, the other fails to bring up eth0 with the static IP. NOTHING is different between them. How can I get this other one up and running?
[21:32] <cebosound> i want to change to google chrome.  is that cool with linux.  newbie on day 1
[21:32] <LjL> meowbuntu: mintbot?
[21:32] <itilious> do i need to install something specific to simply create an NTFS partition in ubuntu?
[21:32] <VirusTB> Alan502,  (well i delelted the ubuntu partition while i was n windows XP, [listening to some other dude helping me out i nthis chat] and he said to restart... and now i cant even bot win XP cuz the system seems to be searching for the GRUB
[21:32] <genii> LetsGo67: At it's lowest level, that Acer's bios on those models has a problem
[21:33] <mNute101> hi everyone I'm getting this error when I do x11vnc -create and then try to connect with my client. Can anyone help me? This is the error: http://paste-it.net/public/ga8e8f5/
[21:33] <meowbuntu> LjL, ubottu. sorry i just recently converted from mint to ubuntu. thats the bot in #linuxmint-help
[21:33] <hackel> cebosound:  Use Chromium instead, it's open-source.
[21:33] <khensthoth> cebosound: Sure. http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux&hl=en Follow the link.
[21:33] <LjL> meowbuntu: well that command will achieve that.
[21:33] <Alan502> !grub | VirusTB
[21:33] <Alan502> VirusTB, follow the instructions in "lost grub after installing windows"
[21:33] <cebosound> i am used to google chrome from my other laptop.  is chromium basically the same, but open source?
[21:34] <Alan502> it always works for me :)
[21:34] <mNute101> hi everyone I'm getting this error when I do x11vnc -create and then try to connect with my client. Can anyone help me? This is the error: http://paste-it.net/public/ga8e8f5/
[21:34] <meowbuntu> !mintsupport
[21:34] <hackel> cebosound:  Yeah, nearly identical.  Some proprietary google features like bookmark saving might not work?
[21:34] <LjL> meowbuntu: you will have to wait for operators to approve the change.
[21:34] <meowbuntu> ljl o i c thanks
[21:34] <jayce> anybody? this is a major problem for me. Can anybody help?
[21:34] <LjL> meowbuntu: have you read the private messages you should have received from ubottu?
[21:35] <Alan502> jayce, whats your problem?
[21:35] <itilious> whats the best filesystem for a partition meant only for a windows VM ?
[21:35] <VirusTB> Alan502,  well i didnt install windows! .. My netbook came with WIn XP, then i used Wubi to install 9.04.. then upgraded to 9.10 (without cd) and then i deleted Ubuntu partitiin while i was in WIN XP
[21:35] <jayce> alan502
[21:35] <LetsGo67> Genii: no matter what?  Why was there no problem in 9.04?
[21:35] <jayce> hey guys - major problem but a quick question - just installed jaunty 64 bit on TWO identical dell latitude e6500 laptops. I assigned a static IP to each one in the network interface file. One is fine, the other fails to bring up eth0 with the static IP. NOTHING is different between them. How can I get this other one up and running?
[21:35] <VirusTB> Alan502,  but i will read it up
[21:35] <cebosound> man this chat goes fast . :)
[21:35] <meowbuntu> ok i am now installing updates and get this maeeage. about weatjher i should keep current grub or update it. what should i do
[21:35] <Alan502> VirusTB, trust me, that guide is to fully reinstall grub
[21:35] <edbian> jayce: Are you trying to give them the same IP?  Is the IP of that broken one already taken?
[21:35] <VirusTB> Alan502,  ok thanks
[21:36] <mNute101> hi everyone I'm getting this error when I do x11vnc -create and then try to connect with my client. Can anyone help me? This is the error: http://paste-it.net/public/ga8e8f5/
[21:36] <jayce> edbian - I am trying to give them the same IP, yes, but they are on different closed networks iwth ZERO outbound access to the outside world.
[21:36] <Alan502> VirusTB, np, tell me how it goes
[21:36] <jayce> edbian - previously I would just assign them an IP and netmask in the network interface file, reboot, and Id have that IP assigned to me so I could access my web based imaging program that runs on these linux laptops. So I NEED this IP to work to even access the program.
[21:36] <cebosound> but seems helpful.  thanks.  i am going to check it out.
[21:36] <VirusTB> Alan502,  lol step one = FAIL  i canot boot Live cd from my USB memstick
[21:37] <jayce> edbian - it worked on the previous 12 times I installed ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/imaging program and set up the static IP, yet this ONE ubuntu computer is being a pain
[21:37] <jayce> Im about to just image the original computer that works and dump it on the problematic one, but I hate doing that to "fix" a problem.
[21:37] <Alan502> VirusTB, do you have a cd drive on the computer you are chatting here?
[21:37] <jayce> two brand new fresh installs, same cd, same updates, rebooted at the same time, and one is like no thanks and the other works fine.
[21:38] <edbian> jayce: Are you sure the network card is fully functioning?
[21:38] <meowbuntu> hello
[21:38] <VirusTB> this computer has CD rom yes, my netbook doesnt
[21:38] <VirusTB> this computer has CD rom yes, my netbook doesnt Alan502
[21:38] <jayce> edbian - it works on DHCP. When I go static and reboot it flips me off. :(
[21:38] <Alan502> VirusTB, what i suggest is making your installation usb drive with Ubuntu's USB startup disk creator
[21:38] <mNute101> hi everyone I'm getting this error when I do x11vnc -create and then try to connect with my client. Can anyone help me? This is the error: http://paste-it.net/public/ga8e8f5/
[21:39] <edbian> jayce: Maybe the address is taken?  Why does it matter the specific address you computer has?  In my mind it shouldn't at all.
[21:39] <VirusTB> Alan502,  which can be found at ????
[21:39] <meowbuntu> VirusTB, you wanting to install an os on netbook
[21:39] <Alan502> VirusTB, are you in linux now right
[21:39] <VirusTB> meowbuntu,  yes, i deleted my Ubuntu partiton on my netbook
[21:39] <VirusTB> Alan502,  nope i am on Win7  now
[21:39] <jayce> edbian - because, this is just how my setup is. I have individual lans with ZERO outbound access. Period. None. No IP conflicts. All internal little LANs on 24 port switches to do my imaging. I already configured the program for this IP, so I want to use this IP. Theres no reason I CANT use this IP, and theres no reason for Ubuntu to not work on 1 PC but work on another thats identical.
[21:40] <meowbuntu> ok you can put the bootable cd onto a flash drive. and run it from there
[21:40] <jayce> Im under severe pressure to get these rolling -asap- and ubuntu being contrary is just making me want to leap out of a window
[21:40] <Alan502> VirusTB, do you have a ubuntu *.iso avaible? other than Ubuntu netbook remix?
[21:40] <itilious> is it possible to mount a drive after formatting via gparted without the need to restart?
[21:40] <meowbuntu> VirusTB, ok you can put the bootable cd onto a flash drive. and run it from there
[21:40] <VirusTB> Alan502,  ubuntu+9.10 Desktop ISO
[21:40] <robbmunson> !mount | itilious
[21:41] <meowbuntu> !usb
[21:41] <mNute101> hi everyone I'm getting this error when I do x11vnc -create and then try to connect with my client. Can anyone help me? This is the error: http://paste-it.net/public/ga8e8f5/
[21:41] <robbmunson> itilious: short answer yes :)
[21:41] <VirusTB> meowbuntu,  how is that done, with Unetboot? i tried that way already
[21:41] <meowbuntu> VirusTB, see !usb ^
[21:41] <ddan> can any help my with my old radeon 7200 and OpenGL?
[21:41] <VirusTB> !usb
[21:42] <Alan502> VirusTB, that would work, boot from live cd and search for USB startup disk creator under system. Be sure to select your Ubuntu netbook remix iso, otherwise it will copy a normal ubuntu installation.
[21:42] <edbian> jayce: I admit it is very odd.  You should be able to use whatever IP you want.  Unfortunately it sounds to me that if DHCP works flawless but static does not work then there must be an error on the network not on that system.
[21:42] <meowbuntu> VirusTB, live usb install
[21:42] <jayce> edbian - but theres no network.
[21:42] <jayce> edbian - this is on the computer itself.
[21:42] <jayce> Im not plugged in anywhere. I dont need to be when using static ips with the network interface file.
[21:42] <jayce> that rules out network, and it rules out the card because it works dhcp - what else but the OS at this point? :(
[21:42] <VirusTB> Alan502,  i dont have netbook remix ISO.. i have dektop_i386 iso
[21:42] <edbian> jayce: ?? You're configuring your network interfaces to run without a network?
[21:43] <jayce> edbian - yes. See, check it... when you assign yourself a static IP with a network manager, you need to be plugged in. Right?
[21:43] <meowbuntu> VirusTB, i would by a cheep 1-2gig flash drive and use it only for live usb as you have a netbook.
[21:43] <ddan> can any help my with my old radeon 7200 and OpenGL?
[21:43] <itilious> robbmunson, i'm trying to get windows7 to dual boot with ubuntu, is this possible for a newbie to linux? lol
[21:43] <VirusTB> Alan502,  so boot up in live CD mode
[21:43] <edbian> jayce: yes...
[21:43] <jayce> edbian - but when you assign a static IP with the network interface file, it seems to "hardcode" it into the NIC - so I can have a legit static IP assigned to me with ZERO plugs connected to the computer
[21:43] <robbmunson> itilious: absolutely! :)
[21:43] <VirusTB> meowbuntu,  my netbook HDD is 160GB
[21:43] <meowbuntu> VirusTB, then you can install the latest live cd on it and keep up to date.
[21:44] <jayce> edbian - trust me, I have 2 laptops on myd esk now. Both are identical. One works. One doesnt. Neither is plugged into the network.
[21:44] <robbmunson> !dual boot | itilious
[21:44] <jayce> edbian - this is nice because I can always access my web based GUI for this imaging program I use, since I always retain the IP tied to eth0
[21:44] <edbian> jayce: Ok, so this application sends data through this IP address?
[21:44] <edbian> jayce: OIC a web interface.
[21:44] <jayce> edbian - more or less, yes.
[21:45] <jayce> edbian - its weird because in kubuntu (my personal laptop acting as a 3rd image server) it didnt work either
[21:45] <lzrdking> jayce: any error messages?
[21:45] <VirusTB> Alan502,  so should I boot up in LIVE UBUNTU CD ?
[21:45] <jayce> edbian -b ut I know in ubuntu it does, after all, Im looking at the laptops now
[21:45] <dustofdust> hi
[21:45] <jayce> lzrdking - just unable to bring up eth0
[21:45] <Alan502> VirusTB, You will need a netbook remix if you want to install netbook remix on your acer one. Otherwise, you can always install the normal desktop edition on your acer one, But, from my experience, Ubuntu desktop will run pretty slow on acer one. You will need Ubuntu netbook remix or Xubuntu
[21:45] <meowbuntu> virtuald, ok thats fine. if i could get a netbook i wonder what i could do.
[21:45] <jayce> Im gonna plug into my imaging switch w/o any other network access and see if I pull the static IP at least
[21:45] <Alan502> VirusTB, for a suitable speed
[21:45] <dustofdust> i have a problem with ekiga, it does not play any sound
[21:45] <lzrdking> try ifconfig eth0 up at the command prompt
[21:46] <meowbuntu> ok i am now installing updates and get this maeeage. about weatjher i should keep current grub or update it. what should i do
[21:46] <lzrdking> see what you get
[21:46] <VirusTB> Alan502,  ok i will download Netbook Remix.iso
[21:46] <jayce> edbian - with windows XP, if you assign yourself a static IP, you still get the IP even with nothing plugged in - right?
[21:46] <VirusTB> Alan502,  and when i have netbook remic, burn it to a disk? an use it in Live mood
[21:46] <Alan502> VirusTB, ok tell me how it goes
[21:47] <jayce> lzrdking - whoa, permission denied
[21:47] <edbian> jayce:  I understand what you're tying to do.  Why don't you use the loopback interface?  Then you don't have to fuddle with your real network card.  Can you connect to the internet while these machines are behaving this way?
[21:47] <jayce> lzrdking - red flag there?
[21:47] <jayce> edbian - I dont need to connect to the internet on these machines. These are temp solutions to image a large amount of laptops in a short amount of time.
[21:47] <lzrdking> jayce, sudo ifconfig eth0 <ip address> up
[21:48] <Alan502> VirusTB, when you have the ubuntu netbook remix; Boot from UBUNTU DESKTOP LIVE CD on this computer. Select the USB startup disk creator when you are in live. In the USB startup disk creator select your downloaded UBUNTU NETBOOK REMIX iso. It should not be too difficult but if you have problems, come back :(
[21:48] <Alan502> :))
[21:48] <Alan502> VirusTB, that :( was supposed to be a :)
[21:48] <edbian> jayce: Is the machine imaging its self?
[21:48] <Alan502> VirusTB, typos XD
[21:48] <jayce> edbian - no, it acts as a server
[21:48] <meowbuntu> !regester
[21:48] <itilious> how difficult is it to access a windows workgroup share from an ubuntu machine?
[21:49] <jayce> lzrdking - got the IP now
[21:49] <bobbyyu> I have a problem with Samba lately. I can't see the Samba shares that my current machine is sharing.
[21:49] <VirusTB> Alan ok, jus finished Nebook remix
[21:49] <jayce> lzrdking - gonna reboot and see if I retain the IP
[21:49] <meowbuntu> !register
[21:49] <lzrdking> jayce:  you won't
[21:49] <itilious> i can see the "workgroup" from the network location on ubuntu but it fails to "mount" everytime
[21:49] <VirusTB> VirusTB, NOTE TO SELF::  when you have the ubuntu netbook remix; Boot from UBUNTU DESKTOP LIVE CD on this computer. Select the USB startup disk creator when you are in live. In the USB startup disk creator select your downloaded UBUNTU NETBOOK REMIX iso. It should not be too difficult but if you have problems, come back
[21:49] <jayce> lzrdking - why not? :( the other laptop does...
[21:49] <jayce> gahhh
[21:50] <bobbyyu> I edited the smb.conf but Samba seems to ignore what I wrote on smb.conf
[21:50] <rwt> hello
[21:50] <lzrdking> jayce: you'd need to put it in a config file somewhere, but i don;t know where
[21:50] <jayce> lzrdking - youre right, I didnt
[21:50] <jayce> lzrdking - what do you think is diff between these machines?
[21:50] <jayce> same install...
[21:50] <ddan> Need help, all my graphics work except OpenGL apps and other 3D programs
[21:50] <jayce> done at same time...
[21:50] <lzrdking> jayce: but if its just to image, why does it need to be permanent?
[21:50] <asimismo> So I see in Keyboard preferences (9.10) that I can turn repeat keys off and on. Is there a way to configure with more resolution? That is, backspace, for instance, should have repeat on but CTRL should not.
[21:51] <Alan502> VirusTB, that was fast
[21:51] <itilious> i get the error "Failed to retrieve share list from server" everytime i try to access a windows share
[21:51] <jayce> lzrdking - I understand, its just the fact that it bothers me, to be honest. I just dont understand why. you know?
[21:51] <VirusTB> Alan502,  :p super speed internet(The Netherlands)
[21:51] <itilious> i hve smbfs installed as well
[21:51] <meowbuntu> ok i am now installing updates and get this maeeage. about weatjher i should keep current grub or update it. what should i do
[21:51] <jayce> lzrdking - I like tou nderstand what the problem was...
[21:51] <duck_tape> anybody manage to get ubuntu to work with HP ILO kvm?
[21:51] <lzrdking> jayce: bad sector on the HD maybe?
[21:52] <Alan502> VirusTB, :sigh: my internet is just the opposite; 50 kb/s download speed (Guatemala) :(
[21:52] <bobbyyu> Should I ask this question in #samba?
[21:52] <jayce> lzrdking - you think? Brand new laptops. Although possible, very unlikely. They imaged fine (they had XP on them previously)
[21:52] <VirusTB> Alan502,  while  I am running from a LIVE CD
[21:52] <jayce> too bad network manager sucks in gnome or else I could static IP it there
[21:52] <VirusTB>  how to i  install xchat? or can i install xchat froma live cd?
[21:52] <jayce> Im using network manager in KDE and thats fine but the gnome side wont retain it for some reason
[21:52] <VirusTB>  how to i  install xchat? or can i install xchat froma live cd? Alan502
[21:53] <VirusTB> Alan502,  (via terminal)
[21:53] <Alan502> VirusTB, choose the usb startup disk creator
[21:53] <job_> anybody here using e17?
[21:53] <Alan502> VirusTB, you can try webchat.freenode.net
[21:53] <Alan502> VirusTB, im not sure if you can install xchat
[21:53] <lzrdking> jayce:  no clue, try imaging again?
[21:53] <VirusTB> Alan502,  ok let me write tht down
[21:54] <meowbuntu> brb restart in order
[21:54] <VirusTB> Alan502,  thanks for helping me thus far :D
[21:54] <jayce> lzrdking - I hate to fix linux the same way I fix windows machines. To fix windows machines, you reboot, otherwise, reimage. To fix linux machines, its.. different. :( Id rather not resort to that
[21:54] <James__d> Join #crustytampon
[21:54] <jayce> lzrdking - I think I found a solution, osrta, through network manager
[21:54] <James__d> Join #crustytampon
[21:54] <pyro_> does anybody know what would cause 2 nics in a system to conflict with each other?
[21:54] <itilious> is browsing an SMB windows share also something too difficult for the newbie to try? lol
[21:54] <job_> help with e17 anyone please?
[21:54] <James__d> Join #crustytampon
[21:54] <jayce> lzrdking - as long as I have a connection to the switch, I can grab the proper static IP through the switch
[21:54] <maco> !ops | James__d spam
[21:54] <jayce> lzrdking - if Im not plugged in at all, I wont grab it. No idea why the other one does, but its late, eff it
[21:55] <jayce> lzrdking - thanks for your help bor
[21:55] <pyro_> My primary nic can't get internet access anymore
[21:56] <ScoobyDoo> Would all your applications and everything still work if you removed the package gnome-terminal? or would it render everything useless?
[21:56] <Alan502> VirusTB, no problem! tell me how it goes
[21:56] <ddan> Need help with OpenGL
[21:56] <robbmunson> ScoobyDoo: i would think that you would definately have an unstable system, but..ALL is a big stretch...
[21:57] <freaky[t]> need entertaining
[21:57] <freaky[t]> im bored
[21:57] <robbmunson> ScoobyDoo: I wouldnt recommend doing this at all though :)
[21:57] <ScoobyDoo> Ah ok thanks
[21:57] <ViiTsa> ji
[21:57] <m4rk> hello
[21:57] <m4rk> wot's going on, very quiet in here
[21:58] <danopia> i guess that wubi booting to a grub prompt after a kernel upgrade is common
[21:58] <kain_> hi, where is the mozilla plugins folder in ubuntu 9.10?
[21:58] <kain_> i found the mozilla folder, but there isn't a plugins folder
[21:58] <meowbuntu> hi i have done a complete update and still cant play mp3 files in exaile. most popular formatt. how to activate.
[21:58] <amarena> ciao a tutti
[21:58] <amarena> !list
[21:59] <edbian> kain_: /home/kain_/.mozilla/plugins
[21:59] <VirusTB> Alan502,  while i m still under windows should I format my USB to a certain format??
[21:59] <mNute101> How do I set the display for xterm?
[21:59] <VirusTB> Alan502,  will boot live cd now, was just finishing off a document n emails..
[21:59] <kain_> edbian : plugins folder doesn't exist in .mozilla, so i'm going to create it
[22:00] <ddan> meowbuntu, for exaile mp3 support try sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[22:00] <mNute101> How do I set the display for xterm?
[22:00] <edbian> kain_: That's fine.  I have one but it is empty.  creating one is safe
[22:00] <VirusTB> !xterm
[22:00] <VirusTB>  mNute101  whars xterm/.
[22:00] <VirusTB> !xtern
[22:01] <kain_> edbian : thx, my problem is the i have 64 bit and flash player isn't working on firefox, so i'm putting one in plugins
[22:01] <ddan> !xterm
[22:01] <edbian> kain_: I'm not sure it is that simple.  I've never tried that.  Let me know what happens!
[22:01] <VirusTB> Alan502,  while i m still under windows should I format my USB to a certain format??
[22:01] <Alan502> VirusTB, the USB startup disk creator will format your drive
[22:01] <Alan502> VirusTB, be sure to click the "format" button
[22:02] <VirusTB> Alan502,  ok e back in a few!
[22:02] <mNute101> tunnelling X over SSH
[22:02] <Bookman> How do I tell what type of ram a computer has?
[22:02] <Alan502> VirusTB, good luck1
[22:02] <mNute101> How do I set the display for xterm? tunnelling X over SSH
[22:02] <Mainstay> Does anyone have any info on this problem, it makes me want to stab myself: my editor doesn't detect that the currently open file has changed on disk (and prompt me to reload). This happens with files across a network. Any input on how to deal with this, background on this if it's a known issue etc?
[22:03] <shane_> why is pulseaudio such a bugger?
[22:03] <ddan> mNute101, try running shh with -X
[22:03] <mNute101> -x?
[22:03] <iceroot> Bookman: cat /proc/meminfo
[22:04] <ddan> do ssh -X <other parameters>
[22:04] <hdtdi> hi, i downloaded a film via ftp from a friend of mine but when i try to watch the film i got this error http://pastebin.ca/1710176. with other films everything is ok.. but with this one.. does anyone have an idea?
[22:04] <shane_> I can't seem to get my sound working with vlc now, I really don't feel like logging out and back in again, does anyone have a magic pulseaudio fix line
[22:04] <supershoe0> hi..all
[22:04] <jrib> hdtdi: the file doesn't exist
[22:04] <mNute101> Which GUI is better KDE or GNOME?
[22:05] <ddan> hdtdi, check that the file exists
[22:05] <Callum> hmmm, just checked my hard disk's health and it passed okay, no explanation for that filesystem spaz a couple of hours ago...
[22:05] <jrib> mNute101: neither, use the one YOU like
[22:05] <shane_> I tried pulseaudio -k  and pulseaudio --check  and that didn't help
[22:05] <edbian> mNute101: Total mattter of opinion dude
[22:05] <hdtdi> jrib, w0w.. its on my pc.. ls -la shows its there.. and the size is 760mb
[22:05] <kain_> does anyone know a solution to fix flash player in ubuntu 9.10 64 bit? my firefox can't play on most sites
[22:05] <iceroot> hdtdi: file not found
[22:05] <ddan> mNute101, both are good
[22:05] <switch263> okay ... anyone have any tips for getting KDE + dual-display to work properly? i can set the resolution of each display individually with no issues, using krandrtray, but they're stacked on top of each other
[22:05] <jrib> hdtdi: pastebin
[22:05] <shane_> mNute101, try them both until you like one better than the other
[22:05] <iceroot> hdtdi: so check the path again
[22:05] <ddan> mNute101 try XFE for performance and light-weight
[22:05] <Alan502> mNute101, its matter of preference, but gnome tends to be more stable and kde more good-looking
[22:05] <ddan> sorry, XCFE
[22:05] <Jamed> Callum: everything working again?
[22:06] <hdtdi> iceroot, i moved the film in a dir called bla1 then when i am in the dir i use mplayer -sub subs.sub film.avi and still the same
[22:06] <supershoe0> wats this chat all about?
[22:06] <Callum> Jamed: yes, everything is fine again although I'm struggling to come up with an explanation as to what caused it in the first place
[22:06] <jrib> supershoe0: ubuntu support
[22:06] <ddan> hdtsi, check if its there with ls
[22:06] <hdtdi> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/1710176
[22:06] <iceroot> hdtdi: writing the filename by hand or using tab?
[22:07] <hdtdi> using tab
[22:07] <Callum> all my hard disks are very healthy according to Palimpsest, and although the drive Ubuntu is on has been run for 2.7 years, according to Palimpsest its completely fine
[22:07] <switch263> i dont get why gnome works fine for my dual-head but kde wont :-/
[22:07] <iceroot> hdtdi: is it readable for mplayer?
[22:07] <Jamed> Callum: really wierd, maybe its a bug in ext4
[22:07] <hdtdi> its avi
[22:07] <jrib> hdtdi: erm, pastebin « ls -la; mplayer -sub Crew.srt Crew.avi »
[22:07] <Callum> Jamed: tbh this has happened every time I use an ext4 filesystem =(
[22:07] <Bookman> iceroot, that does not tell me the type of ram
[22:07] <edbian> switch263: gnome is better written for your hardware.  The gdm (gnome display manager) is probably to blame.  KDE is the KDM (K display manager)
[22:07] <Callum> If ext4 is officially stable now, why does it happen? >_>
[22:07] <edbian> Callum: It is
[22:08] <switch263> edbian, i guess i just dont understand why one works and the other wont, when i'm using the same conf file
[22:08] <ViridianFire> so how do I get my hea
[22:08] <ViridianFire> 1d
[22:08] <ViridianFire> 5
[22:08] <ViridianFire> 531
[22:08] <MaT-dg> how can I open IRC links in firefox with xchat? (set xchat as default for IRC)
[22:08] <FloodBot2> ViridianFire: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <ScoobyDoo> How can I disable login to terminal as root?
[22:08] <ViridianFire> sorry
[22:08] <duck_tape> I just finished installing Ubuntu to a external USB drive and  on first start all i see is "GRUB " and it seems to hang, any ideas?
[22:08] <ViridianFire> that was my "friend"
[22:09] <Jamed> Callum: i heard there are still some bugs, specifically when dealing with large files, maybe there are more
[22:09] <edbian> switch263: They're different code.
[22:09] <shane_> ok, is it possible I removed something that messed up my pulseaudio?
[22:09] <asimismo> Where is the dropins folder on the Ubuntu package installation?
[22:09] <switch263> i never had this issue until ati/xorg deprecated my drivers. jerks. :-/ heh
[22:09] <asimismo> Oops! Wrong tab...
[22:09] <ScoobyDoo> !grep|Scoobydoo
[22:09] <ViridianFire> so how do you get the headphone jack to work?
[22:09] <shane_> I did a sudo apt-get autoremove, and nothing looked really necessary, but not sure
[22:09] <Callum> Jamed: well obviously ext4 still needs some time to be fixed, how can they declare it stable when people still have regular problems with it =(
[22:09] <kain_> edbian : i found the solution if your still there
[22:09] <hdtdi> jrib, http://pastebin.ca/1710183
[22:09] <ScoobyDoo> How can I disable login to terminal as root?
[22:10] <edbian> kain_: I'd like to know! :)  Thank you
[22:10] <VirusTB1> Alan502:  hey! back
[22:10] <VirusTB1> Alan502:  under LIVE CD now,
[22:10] <jrib> hdtdi: why is your error different now?
[22:10] <Callum> The last times this happened it resulted in complete filesystem corruption, lucky this didn't happen this time
[22:10] <Alan502> VirusTB1, nice! now go to system>create startup disk
[22:10] <VirusTB1> Alan502:  USB STart up creater,   find is, and then sellect USB and then format?
[22:10] <hdtdi> jrib, its the same ?
[22:10] <VirusTB1> find iso*
[22:10] <jrib> hdtdi: it's not
[22:11] <hdtdi> oh yes
[22:11] <hdtdi> am its becuse i chmod 777 the file
[22:11] <Alan502> VirusTB1, yep
[22:11] <Alan502> VirusTB1, be sure to select your Ubuntu Netbook remix ISO
[22:11] <Jamed> Callum: yeah i think they should have waited until the next version to make it the default fs
[22:11] <hdtdi> or i think thats the reason
[22:11] <VirusTB1> Alan502:  yes Netbook remix.iso :P
[22:11] <Jamed> Callum: next version of ubuntu i mean
[22:12] <jrib> hdtdi: erm, according to mplayer, it's playing your file fine
[22:12] <sangkilc> exit
[22:12] <Callum> Jamed: Yeah...the weird thing is my laptop is running Ubuntu 9.04 with ext4 filesystem and its had no problems whatsoever =(
[22:12] <VirusTB1> Alan502:  does i format really fast??  ( i clicked th "format" buttin, but i see no actions going on ??)
[22:12] <jrib> hdtdi: it's not saying it can't find your file
[22:12] <ScoobyDoo> Is it possible to disable logging in to terminal as root?
[22:13] <Callum> Going to install 9.10 on it soon
[22:13] <Alan502> VirusTB1, the live cd runs usually slow
[22:13] <jrib> ScoobyDoo: why?
[22:13] <hdtdi> jrib, yese but the file i s there.. you can see it with ls -la so why is this happening ?
[22:13] <Alan502> VirusTB1, so wait a few more seconds, if not just continue; it is not NECESSARY to format
[22:13] <Callum> and I'm going to be going to school on Monday to leech my school's bandwidth updating the thing =P
[22:13] <Jamed> Callum: maybe it is specific to ext4 + your hd did you try other fs's on tis hd?
[22:13] <jrib> hdtdi: it's not saying it can't find your file.  It reads the file fine
[22:13] <ScoobyDoo> jrib, I heard their was a virus that used root
[22:13] <jrib> hdtdi: that first "No such file or directory" is not related to your file
[22:13] <skx> I have attached another monitor to my ubuntu machine and it's all fine, but the cursor is moving faster sideways than up/down when the other monitor is on, I guess to compensate for added width... it's annoying, how do I make it move regularly?
[22:13] <Callum> Jamed: yeah...ext3, NTFS are the other filesystems I've known had no problems with it
[22:14] <jrib> hdtdi: if you play a different file, you'll probably see the same thing
[22:14] <VirusTB1> Alan502:  well  i cant access the  "make Start up disk" buttun? ( i cant click it, its not "active" :S
[22:14] <jrib> ScoobyDoo: that makes no sense...
[22:14] <hdtdi> jrib, no.. when i want to watch another file
[22:14] <Callum> One of the other HDs in my PC had ext4 in it and that also screwed...and that is a much younger drive too
[22:14] <hdtdi> everything is fine
[22:14] <jrib> hdtdi: pastebin
[22:14] <VirusTB1> Alan502:  BRB hold that thought
[22:15] <Jamed> Callum: _really_ wierd! anyway i have to go, bye.
[22:15] <Callum> Jamed: okay, bye =)
[22:15] <Alan502> VirusTB1, have you already selected your ISO and your usb drive?
[22:15] <Callum> at the moment my system has one HD with Ubuntu on it so small /boot, a couple of GB of swap and the rest ext4, the other two HDs in my system are NTFS
[22:15] <Alan502> VirusTB1, if you have, it might be formatting already
[22:16] <rahduke> hello, my folder names on SAMBA Share are all messed up some of the folders get renamed to random letters and symbols... can anyone help??
[22:16] <testwicd> hi
[22:16] <testwicd> wicd older version show mac address but new version isnt show
[22:16] <testwicd> what about ^^
[22:16] <jrib> hdtdi: if you prefer, feel free to pass "-nolirc" to mplayer
[22:17] <docmax> hello, the systemprotocolviewer of gnome is ok, but is there any better???
[22:18] <Ripp_> If I  add a service, but want it to run as non-root, is there anything I need to do with update-rc.d ?
[22:20] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  so what did u say after i said :hold that hthought"
[22:21] <testwicd> how to answer for wicd?
[22:21] <Alan502> VirusTB1, have you already selected your ISO and your usb drive?
[22:21] <Alan502> VirusTB1, if you have, it might be formatting already
[22:21] <Tiders> Is the virtualbox site down?
[22:21] <Alan502> VirusTBB, and that is why you cant click the next button
[22:21] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  ok...
[22:22] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  i stil cant click the "make start up disk"
[22:22] <switch263> VirusTBB, how big is the USB drive thats potentially formatting?
[22:22] <VirusTBB> switch263:  8GB
[22:22] <Alan502> errr
[22:22] <switch263> that could take a while
[22:22] <oddmunds> Is there a channel dedicated to lucid lynx?
[22:22] <Alan502> VirusTBB, try restarting the aplication
[22:23] <robbmunson> !lucid | oddmunds
[22:23] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  lol ok, ill try n find m 4GB USB switch263
[22:23] <switch263> every time i run from a liveCD its horribly slow
[22:23] <oddmunds> robbmunson: thanks :)
[22:23] <robbmunson> oddmunds: sure :)
[22:23] <switch263> VirusTBB, i would just let that one finish
[22:23] <Tiders> Will Virtualbox i386 work on my 64 bit Karmic?
[22:24] <VirusTBB> switch263:  well i cliked formt?  but it doesnt show any signs that its formating ( u know like a timer bar or something)
[22:24] <VirusTBB> switch263:  *time reamaning**
[22:24] <gwince> Tiders: It should do.
[22:24] <switch263> *shrug* you could always format it manually
[22:24] <hdon> hi all. i want to accept an SSL certificate (not the signatory) for a specific IRC server for use with xchat. any help with some commandline tls hackery to make this happen?
[22:24] <hdon> oh, xchat has an option for this specifically, nevermind, thanks
[22:24] <Ripp_> hdon: Why command line...?
[22:24] <Ripp_> yeah
[22:24] <Ripp_> hehe
[22:24] <Ripp_> :)
[22:24] <FloodBot2> Ripp_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <testwicd> how to support from wicd?
[22:25] <VirusTBB> switch263:  so should I shut down n try with the 4GB USB stick?
[22:25] <VirusTBB> switch263:  so should I shut down n try with the 4GB USB stick? Alan502
[22:25] <ViridianFire> so does anyone know why my headphone jack doesnt work under ubuntu?
[22:25] <switch263> VirusTBB, idk. i'm not a fan of rebooting personally so i'd be trying to make the one i was already using work
[22:25] <mNute101> did you plug in the headphone?
[22:25] <lontra> hi i am trying to use virtualbox in ubuntu and font is all wacky. so i open up qt4-qtconfig set it to bitstream-vera, then relaunch virtualbox and it's all messed up again
[22:26] <ViridianFire> yes
[22:26] <Tiders> gwince, Nope it ownt
[22:26] <mNute101> is the sound on?
[22:26] <lontra> it's very pixellated
[22:26] <ViridianFire> neither my headphones nor speakers work
[22:26] <ViridianFire> yes the sound is on
[22:26] <gwince> Tiders: Ok, I stand corrected. :)
[22:26] <switch263> ViridianFire, you're probably muted
[22:26] <ViridianFire> no
[22:26] <mNute101> are the speakers on?
[22:26] <ViridianFire> yes
[22:26] <Alan502> VirusTBB, well i'll recommend restarting the application and NOT choosing formating this time
[22:26] <Tiders> gwince, Where can I get a non-opensource 64 bit version
[22:26] <switch263> this ubuntu box has a habit of muting my speakers for no apparent reason
[22:26] <Alan502> VirusTBB, formating is not necessary, althought recommended. But i have made installations without formatting. :)
[22:26] <Tiders> gwince, Nevermind got it
[22:27] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  ok  gonna reboot and run live cd again
[22:27] <Alan502> VirusTBB, ok
[22:27] <ViridianFire> I had this problem before on my old laptop
[22:27] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  what hsould the USb  be formted to> FAT ??
[22:27] <ViridianFire> I think it was a Pulse Audio issue
[22:27] <switch263> no
[22:28] <switch263> VirusTBB, FAT can't do > 2gb
[22:28] <lontra> what font do qt apps read in gnome?
[22:28] <lontra> err ... what file not font
[22:28] <VirusTBB> switch263:  i got no 2GB i got a 4GB and a 8GB stick
[22:28] <Alan502> VirusTBB, VFAT aka FAT32
[22:28] <switch263> yeah. FAT can't handle greater than 2gb
[22:28] <ViridianFire> where are the Pulse Audio settings so I can play around with those?
[22:28] <switch263> VFAT, indeed.
[22:28] <VirusTBB> ok switch263  Alan502  BRB
[22:29] <Alan502> ok
[22:30] <r0k3tm3n> has anyone had success running multiple persistent linux installations of a flash drive?
[22:31] <boss_mc> r0k3tm3n: with a large enough flash drive, that's perfectly possible
[22:31] <r0k3tm3n> yeah, i realize that, but how is my question:  split partitons?
[22:31] <Alan502> r0k3tm3n, i wouldnt recommend that
[22:31] <boss_mc> r0k3tm3n: I've had a persistant ubuntu and a liveUSB on one pen at once
[22:32] <r0k3tm3n> what problems did u run into?
[22:32] <boss_mc> Alan502: why not?  It's just like a normal HD...
[22:32] <r0k3tm3n> i am running 4 iso images of one flash right now, no problems...
[22:33] <Alan502> boss_mc, you are exposed to easily loose your installations by loosing your pendrive
[22:33] <steev> so, i just did a fresh install of openssh-server - and sshd wouldn't start - i tracked it down to /sbin/start-stop-daemon being a script... and the actual start-stop-daemon being called start-stop-daemon.REAL - anyone know what would cause that?  (and how the heck do i get which package installed a file, I thought it was dpkg -S filename but that just tells me where its installed to
[22:33] <steev> sorry - fresh install of Karmic
[22:33] <r0k3tm3n> Alan502: rlly? thats all?  no software problems?
[22:34] <Ripp_> I have a service which I'm trying to start with update-rc.d...is there any way to specify the user under which the service starts?
[22:34] <Alan502> boss_mc, and some pendrives have a formatting limit
[22:34] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  back
[22:34] <boss_mc> Alan502: True, but you'd never use it for your real install, just for testing (surely)
[22:34] <Alan502> r0k3tm3n, no which i am concerned
[22:34] <r0k3tm3n> Boss_MC: of course!!!
[22:34] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  ok ,  US START UP....
[22:35] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  selec iso (nerboot remix) and select 4GB USB
[22:35] <Alan502> VirusTBB, be disposed to be patient if you decide to format your drive
[22:35] <r0k3tm3n> Alan502: ok, thnx.   have you booted a persistent image from a *iso?
[22:36] <xopah> PLEASE I NEED HELP! - My Friends WLAN worked but not mine! - Why? and How Do I fix it? - http://pastebin.com/m584e9225
[22:36] <VirusTBB> Alan502: not gonna format, its almost 12:am here, i got to go to school
[22:36] <boss_mc> r0k3tm3n: you can convince the installer that the usb is a HD, install a grub on the drive and install multiple OSs into seperate partitions (remember, to get >4 you'll need extended partitions)
[22:36] <Alan502> r0k3tm3n, nope, im not too much a linux expert!
[22:37] <Alan502> VirusTBB, ok just click next then
[22:37] <Alan502> VirusTBB, lol its difficult to see teens on irc
[22:37] <Ripp_> Is it possible to start services *not* as root?
[22:37] <Mak_> hi there
[22:38] <r0k3tm3n> boss_mc Alan502: ok, that is what i though. thanks!
[22:38] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  Urgg.... i need to take a screen shot n show you whats going on..
[22:38] <Alan502> VirusTBB, some of us do use irc tho
[22:38] <VirusTBB>  i stil cant click :make startup disk;
[22:38] <epinky> xopah: post your config file, you're using supplicant, aren't you?
[22:38] <Matson> are there good options for video editing on Linux, similar to final cut studio offerings from MAC?
[22:38] <Alan502> VirusTBB, whats happening?
[22:38] <mcbane> hi
[22:38] <Alan502> errr
[22:38] <VirusTBB>  i stil cant click :make startup disk; Alan502
[22:38] <Alan502> VirusTBB, a screenshot would be very useful
[22:38] <blistov> I've got serveral 9.10 servers running under vmware esxi, and i've installed open-vm-tools and run module-assistant, and the modules are all loaded, but esxi says Vmware Tools : Unmanaged
[22:38] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  how do i make one?
[22:38] <blistov> any idea's.?
[22:38] <mcbane> how do I check what applications do use swap memory?
[22:38] <Alan502> VirusTBB, try using the screen capture utility
[22:39] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  o_0
[22:39] <Alan502> Its under applications, VirusTBB , i dont remember the exact location tho
[22:39] <Alan502> VirusTBB, when you have it, upload it to imgur.com
[22:39] <xopah> epinky where do I find the config file you want, I dont know it is a standard installation of 9.10 - Both SSIDs mentioned in the log file is my own
[22:40] <chasedawg1> Ok i am trying to scan a pdf doc. but it says no scanners found. I need help
[22:41] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  http://imgur.com/Day1Z.png  I didnt click format and the :make disc: i cant click!
[22:41] <DarkStar> hey anyone know where i can get a sysinfo script for xchat that will work on ubuntu?
[22:41] <ali3n> :)
[22:42] <epinky> mcbane: maybe using htop ?
[22:42] <epinky> xopah: what did you run to get those logs?
[22:42] <xopah> Nothing.  It's "syslog" - System log viewer
[22:42] <michaeyk> anyone remind me what the command is to get to the screen where i picked servers for the server version of ubuntu
[22:42] <chasedawg1> Ok i am trying to scan a document to a pdf but it says no scanners found. I need help. How do i set up scanning?
[22:42] <mcbane> epinky: in htop is a value called "SHR" maybe it's that?
[22:42] <boss_mc> Matson: avidemux? cinelerra? Jakshaka?
[22:43] <switch263> are gdesklets a dead project or something?
[22:43] <Pirate_Hunter> ok not funny im getting some serious slow connection in koala, is this   an issue with the OS which I aint aware of?
[22:43] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  http://imgur.com/Day1Z.png  I didnt click format and the :make disc: i cant click! switch263
[22:43] <Alan502> VirusTBB, lol! you NEED to format apparently. The device might not be in the correct format. Well, formatting OR changing to a drive formated in vfat seem to be the only options.
[22:43] <boss_mc> Matson: I don't know what final cut can do, but those all do video editing (think virtualdub mod)
[22:43] <xopah> Epinky - Thank's For helping me! - It's copied from Syslog in System log viewer...
[22:43] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  urgh lol ok will formtat
[22:44] <epinky> mcbane: not really, that's shared memory
[22:44] <ali3n> hey anyone know where i can get a sysinfo script for xchat that will work on ubuntu?
[22:44] <Alan502> VirusTBB, ok, it might take some time tho
[22:45] <epinky> xopah:  post your /etc/network/interfaces file
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:45] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  shoudt there be a  timer (like time remaining  or ** percent complete?
[22:45] <meowbuntu> hi is it possable to undo the update i have just done. my computer is now lagging
[22:46] <meowbuntu> i also cant play music files properly
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> meowbuntu: you can remove the new plus deps then install the old if you can find the deb. You will most likely screw your system up REALLY badly so I do NOT advise this
[22:46] <Alan502> VirusTBB, i dont remember seeing one the last time i used the utility
[22:46] <chasedawg1> How do i set up scanning?
[22:46] <xopah> epinky: I would say it is the standard "auto lo" linebreak "iface lo inet loopback"
[22:46] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  aproxx how long does it take?  (and does it do a full format? or a quick format/)
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> chasedawg1: try xsane
[22:47] <xopah> epinky - I read the file didnt want to past such short thing on pastebin..
[22:47] <chasedawg1> actionparsnip: I tried xsane, but it says no scanners found
[22:48] <Alan502> VirusTBB, im not sure if it does a quick or full format; and the speed depends on both the machine and the drive
[22:48] <epinky> xopah: then post /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> chasedawg1: then run: lsusb    there will be an 8 character hex ID code which will identify the device, you can then websearch for that to find guides
[22:48] <chasedawg1> actionparsnip k sweet thanks
[22:49] <mNute101> How do I open sources.list file?
[22:49] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  oj ok well it doesnt seem like its doing anything to me :S laptop cooling fan spinning regulat, cd rom not spinning really fast
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> mNute101: its a text file so gedit will do it
[22:49] <meowbuntu> ActionParsnip, cant ubuntu update revert to old ones. again this is one thing windows has over ubuntu. a way to undo changes and updates easily
[22:49] <mNute101> The file is empty
[22:49] <Alan502> VirusTBB, it should be slower that on a persistent installation tho; since you are running on live
[22:50] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  this sucks! lol who Im gonna kill the dude who told me to delet the Ubuntu partition and restart computer
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> meowbuntu: you will need a repo with the old version
[22:50] <ali3n> anyone?
[22:50] <Alan502> VirusTBB, try to format with grub then
[22:50] <jedi06> what is a gui svn for ubuntu
[22:50] <Alan502> VirusTBB,  find grub under system
[22:50] <xopah> epinky: I dont have such file I though have a directory (wpa_supplicants) where "action_wpa.sh" "functions.sh" and "ifupdown.sh" is located
[22:51] <chasedawg1> actionparsnip: can you set up a wireless scanning device?
[22:51] <JoeSomebody> hello again, can someone help me out with GKrellM, it says no sensors detected, any way to make it like my mobo? it's an asus p5gd1-vm
[22:51] <VirusTBB> Alan502: ? huh?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> mNute101: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:51] <xopah> epinky: all of them seams looks executable.
[22:51] <meowbuntu> ActionParsnip, what you are saying is i need to reinstall ubuntu to revers updates. how majorly annoying.
[22:51] <ali3n> anyone know where i can get a sysinfo script for xchat that will work on ubuntu?
[22:51] <epinky> xopah: hmmm, then you'll have to create it, it should look like this: http://www.y3m.net/docs/gentoo-on-t42/configs/wpa_supplicant.conf
[22:51] <mNute101> I'm trying to install nomachineNX on ubuntu and apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not working. I get E: Couldn't find package libstdc++ .10-glibc2.2
[22:51] <mNute101> How do I fix this?
[22:52] <Alan502> VirusTBB, or just Alt+F2 and type "grub" and enter
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> chasedawg1: http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/57798
[22:52] <meowbuntu> actqall i am wanting to do is play music files properly. exaile laggs and no sound
[22:52] <epinky> xopah: just need the last part, network { ...
[22:52] <meowbuntu> deep_thought, is thinking again
[22:52] <EoL{s}> Does anyone know how to get Ubuntu to work with a BCM4315 card?
[22:52] <iceroot> !broadcom | EoL{s}
[22:52] <nute> I'm trying to install nomachineNX on ubuntu and apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not working. I get E: Couldn't find package libstdc++ .10-glibc2.2
[22:53] <meowbuntu> EoL{s}, tell us what a BCM4315 cRD IS
[22:53] <iceroot> meowbuntu: wifi
[22:53] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  auto fill does " grub- "  with the dash Alt_F2 doenst find "Grub"
[22:53] <nute> Hi, can I get some help? I'm trying to install nomachineNX on ubuntu and apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is not working. I get E: Couldn't find package libstdc++ .10-glibc2.2
[22:53] <ali3n> /////////
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> nute: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/i386/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2/download
[22:54] <meowbuntu> EoL{s}, configure wifi in settings
[22:54] <EoL{s}> iceroot: Looked there, my card is not yet supported.
[22:54] <meowbuntu> EoL{s}, !google
[22:54] <EoL{s}> Done that.
[22:54] <meowbuntu> !google
[22:54] <nute> ActionParsnip, How do I install it through puTTY with that link?
[22:54] <datta> i was trying to install the facebookchat plugin for pidgin in ubuntu but after downloading the package of wget, it gave me this error http://yfrog.com/j868311024p
[22:55] <Alan502> VirusTBB, emmm or then just fin "Disk administration" or something similar under the "System" menu
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> nute: copy the link of a deb then run: wget file; sudo dpkg -i file
[22:55] <Alan502> VirusTBB, just find something that suggests disk editing!
[22:55] <phoenixz> I have a line in sudoers file that says %admin ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL... I can execute whichever command as root with sudo command, but when I do this: sudo -u foobar /usr/bin/command, suddenly SUDO asks me for my passord (which I enter correctly) and then tells me Sorry, user sven is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/command' as oneadmin on localhost... Why is this? I checked, user foobar has execution rights on /usr/bin/command, so there should not be a
[22:55] <phoenixz>  problem either. What IS the problem here?
[22:55] <EoL{s}> I've already googled around quite a bit. My wireless card appears to be a bit of an oddball. I
[22:55] <EoL{s}> I'll try again, though.
[22:56] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  lol ok... but wait, what am i trying to acomplish with Grub/disk editing./?? ( in on live CD) and on the computer thant works (not on the messed up netbook)
[22:56] <xopah> epinky: nothing else than the last lines?
[22:56] <datta> i think it is something with my dependency, which i had encountered problem with before but this time it is showing up as a notification at the top of the menu
[22:56] <epinky> xopah: yes
[22:56] <epinky> xopah: change with your appropiate parameters
[22:57] <xopah> epinky: done
[22:57] <epinky> xopah: now save it as /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[22:57] <[SilverFox]> I need help my res is stuck at 640x480 io only see part the scrreeen i crashed from a game
[22:57] <nute> ActionParsnip, I get this error dpkg: error processing http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gcc-2.95/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-24_i386.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gcc-2.95/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2_2.95.4-24_i386.deb
[22:57] <xopah> epinky: all parameters within " " signs where it was before..
[22:57] <xopah> epinky: also done
[22:58] <Alan502> VirusTBB, Grub will also work with your pendrive :)
[22:58] <Snausages> silverfox: a reboot should cure that
[22:58] <[SilverFox]> reboot what a POS
[22:58] <epinky> xopah: ok, now run: sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd
[22:58] <[SilverFox]> this like windows but worse lol
[22:58] <VirusTBB> nute:  tinyurl.com
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> [SilverFox]: it does fix some stuff suprisingly
[22:58] <nute> Wow this is so frustrating.
[22:58] <Snausages> silverfox: faster than hanging out in chat rooms
[22:59] <bllz> How can I access Ubuntu's virtual desktop server from a windows machine?  I have tightvnc installed client-side, but i'm not sure how to use it
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> nute: then the link is bad
[22:59] <nute> It's like whenever I try something in ubuntu, I will always get either an error or a huge problem
[22:59] <nute> ActionParsnip, I tried two links already
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> bllz: the server name is the host name of the system you want to connect to, you will need to be on the same LAN
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> bllz: you will need to enable the remote access stuff on the server side
[23:00] <Alan502> VirusTBB, LOL sorry i dont know where the heck was my mind
[23:00] <bllz> ActionParsnip:  ok i'm on the same LAN, but when I type in the hostname, it fails to connect...
[23:00] <Alan502> VirusTBB, it is not GRUB it is GPARTED
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> nute: you can use woof to host the file
[23:00] <bllz> ActionParsnip:  i thought that was preconfigured in mythbuntu...
[23:00] <bllz> maybe not
[23:00] <[SilverFox]> how do I even reset I can't see my shutdown buttons
[23:00] <kaos> hola
[23:00] <bllz> that would explain a lot
[23:00] <Alan502> VIrD=
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> bllz: did you enable the service?
[23:00] <bllz> ActionParnsip:  i think so, at installation
[23:00] <nute> I'm so lost
[23:00] <bllz> is there a way to do it at the command line?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> [SilverFox]: sudo shutdown -r now        will do it
[23:01] <Alan502> VirusTBB, try Alt+F2 and type "gparted" then press enter
[23:01] <datta1> please someone help me with the problem of dependency
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> bllz: not sure, i dont use VNC. I think its vulgar
[23:01] <[SilverFox]> how I bring up ssh?
[23:01] <xopah> epinky: it does not loog well.. :/ - pasting to pastebin - the interface name is eth2 ?
[23:01] <bllz> ActionParsnip:  I'm with you, unfortunately it's the only easy way to configure a lot of myth backend stuff =/
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> [SilverFox]: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[23:01] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  i know gparted..
[23:02] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  i used it to partition my desktop
[23:02] <[SilverFox]> grrr I mean to reset :P I can't use the commands if I can't see the window ;)
[23:02] <bllz> [silverfox]:  ssh hostname
[23:02] <bllz> in the terminal
[23:02] <xopah> epinky: http://pastebin.com/m676df7e9
[23:02] <[SilverFox]> short cut to terminal please
[23:02] <Alan502> VirusTBB, then use gparted to format your pendrive
[23:02] <epinky> xopah: ok, then just sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -d , one d just need the last part, then stop it
[23:02] <bllz> [silverfox]:  oh you meant start the service, sorry
[23:02] <michaeyk> how do I add print server to koala server?
[23:02] <Alan502> VirusTBB, then try to run the USB startup disk creator utility again
[23:02] <losha> ActionParsnip: vuigar?
[23:02] <datta1> again I get message to fix the problem thought these http://yfrog.com/j868311024p and there is a red icon at the top of my window
[23:03] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  ok, this is a lot of work *sigh
[23:03] <[SilverFox]> yeah right now I can't open anything in programs since I can only see the bottom right screen
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> [SilverFox]: then you wil need to physically attend the system to restart the service, the sudo shutdown -r now    command will make the system reboot
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> losha: just so ungraceful and clunky
[23:03] <epinky> xopah: post "sudo ifconfig -a"
[23:03] <losha> ActionParsnip: oh, right. So what do you use instead?
[23:03] <Arimoto> I just did a fresh 9.10 install and when I try to install ncurses-devel I get "
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> losha: a lot of apps have web interfaces or you can use ssh to configure at command line, much slicker
[23:04] <Arimoto> ... I get "Couldn't find package: ncurses-devel"
[23:04] <xopah> epinky: ifconfig -a -> http://pastebin.com/m266704ed
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Arimoto: try: apt-cache search ncurses
[23:05] <epinky> !ipp| michaeyk
[23:05] <losha> Arimoto: ncurses-dev, not -devel...
[23:05] <Alan502> VirusTBB, not really
[23:05] <datta1> please someone help me with the dependency problem, anyone these dependency problems help me badly
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> losha: most torrent clients have web interfaces for example
[23:05] <epinky> xopah: then your wireless is eth2, right?
[23:05] <michaeyk> ubuttu: i just need the command to get to the last screen of the install where i had a chance to check it... i forgot
[23:05] <Alan502> VirusTBB, just select gparted from the system menu
[23:06] <Alan502> VirusTBB, you dont have to boot from gparted live cd...
[23:06] <bllz> I have a seagate SATA drive that has AAM (acoustic management) disabled by firmware.  This means that the hdparm -M 128 /dev/sda command doesn't work.  Is there a way to force AAM on?  the drive is very loud... =/
[23:06] <losha> ActionParsnip: actually, I use vnc with rtorrent :-)
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> datta1: ok give a pastebin of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:06] <pocho> buenas buenas
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> losha: rtorrent has a webinterface
[23:06] <xopah> epinky: yes eth2 should be my wirelsess - with only one "d" -> http://pastebin.com/m15721709
[23:06] <Arimoto> losha: thanks and actually I just noticed the error message tells says I need to install "ncurses-devel" ... but it should be ncurses-dev.  I'm installing it now.  :-)
[23:06] <VirusTBB> ActionParsnip:  rtorrent?
[23:06] <epinky> xopah: sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -ieth2 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -d
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> losha: it will run way faster and use less network bandwidth than VNC
[23:06] <bllz> !rtorrent|VirusTBB
[23:06] <wake69> Hello I am new to linux but I would like to set up a linux machine as a server for some xp machines maybe someone could message me to help me out?
[23:07] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  yea
[23:07] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  just did
[23:07] <losha> ActionParsnip: ah thanks. I'll have to give that a try...
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> VirusTBB: losha: http://rtwi.jmk.hu/
[23:07] <hdtdi> oh does anyone knows how to fix t his http://pastebin.ca/1710183 ?
[23:07] <RaJiL> hi
[23:07] <michaeyk> does anyone remember what that command is?
[23:07] <syn-ack> what command?
[23:08] <RaJiL> not found xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[23:08] <TerrorInK> lol
[23:08] <TerrorInK> are u using a nvidia driver rajil
[23:08] <losha> ActionParsnip: downloading it now, thx...
[23:08] <michaeyk> the one brings up the last screen of the install for the server edition, where you can pick the kinds of servers to run
[23:08] <RaJiL> Ati driver..
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> RaJiL: karmic (annoyingly) doesnt have an xorg.conf file
[23:09] <Billiard> ActionParsnip: you can still use one
[23:09] <Thunder_Drop> I copied my ubuntu install from one drive to another and can't figure out how to install grub on the new hard drive.  How can I go about installing grub on the new hard drive and configuring the mount points for the install as the partitions are now in different orders
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Billiard: oh i know, I have to
[23:09] <RaJiL> if i want configure X?
[23:09] <datta1> ActionParsnip: this is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/338995/
[23:09] <syn-ack> michaeyk, dselect?
[23:09] <syn-ack> michaeyk, or tasksel?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> datta1: and the upgrade?
[23:09] <xopah> epinky: This is the output I got: http://pastebin.com/m141ed0fe
[23:09] <boss_mc> Thunder_Drop: 1) grub-install /dev/sd? 2) /etc/fstab
[23:09] <Billiard> Thunder_Drop: i would use a live cd, chroot into your /  and run grub-install
[23:09] <michaeyk> syn-ack: thanks!  I don't know why that's so hard for me to remember
[23:10] <syn-ack> michaeyk, the second is probably the one you want. :P
[23:10] <jMyles> Oh man.  OK, this is potentially the cause of a life crisis.  Is there a way to recover files deleted when the files are "too big for the trash?"
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> RaJiL: if you can find a skeleton file online or find a way to generate one you can go from there
[23:10] <michaeyk> syn-ack: thanks again!
[23:10] <embrik> how do i get my workstations to upgrade each friday night - I can't find any options for apt-get update; apt-get upgrade to do it automatically without me answvering yes or Y
[23:10] <syn-ack> np
[23:10] <datta1> ActionParsnip I am not willing an upgrade to 9.10 but if that is necessary then I would have to do that
[23:11] <Matson> boss_mc: thanks
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> datta1: no, sudo apt-get upgrade    only upgrades the current packages in the current release
[23:11] <epinky> xopah: it seems your AP is not broadcasting? is it?
[23:12] <xopah> It is.
[23:12] <Ripp_> Thanks for the help, guys
[23:12] <flithm> Hey everyone... is there a thunderbird 3 final deb anywhere?
[23:12] <Ripp_> have a good afternoon
[23:12] <wake69> Hello I am new to linux but I would like to set up a linux machine as a server for some xp machines maybe someone could message me to help me out?
[23:12] <datta1> ActionParsnip: okay this is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/338999/
[23:12] <xopah> Epinky: It is - It's broadcasting two SSID's
[23:12] <flithm> wake69: install ubuntu, install samba, done.
[23:12] <Billiard> embrik: you didnt look very hard, man apt-get search for yes, there is a daemon for auto updates i think as well
[23:12] <tomvolek> HI all,  I have mounted a partition on Ubuntu 9.1 and use it as my data parition.  permissions are owner root and group plugdev 770   ,  as a result regular users can not save files there, why cant change  permission on certain directiry here ?
[23:12] <michaeyk> wake69: you need to be a bit more specific
[23:12] <Billiard> tomvolek: what type of partition
[23:13] <tomvolek> fat 3
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> flithm: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[23:13] <flithm> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[23:13] <xopah> epinky: I can see them both when I click on the small network icon in the upper right corner..
[23:13] <tomvolek> Billiard i wanted to make it accessible by both windows and Ubuntu
[23:13] <Billiard> tomvolek: fat32 does not have permissions, you will have to specify permissions when you mount it
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> datta1: sudo apt-get -f install
[23:13] <wake69> flithm :  Thanks,  I did that  but I still cannot get it to work
[23:14] <Phuzion> Hello having a problem with Java freezing using Ubu 8.10 Firefox 3.0.15
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> flithm: also has firefox 3.6 and 3.7 if firefox floats your boat
[23:14] <JoeSomebody> can someone help me out with GKrellM, it says no sensors detected, any way to make it like my mobo? it's an asus p5gd1-vm , is it a matter of finding drivers?
[23:14] <epinky> xopah: if you can see them maybe it's a driver problem: "sudo lspci | grep -i net"
[23:14] <ctmjr> jMyles: if you have not logged or rebooted you should be able to recover them
[23:15] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  im going to sleep will deal with the netbook in the weekend
[23:15] <jMyles> ctmjr: OK.  That's good news.  How?
[23:15] <tomvolek> Billiard correction, here is my fstab entry : /data           vfat    utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0      1
[23:15] <xopah> epinky: I guess this is the little bastard: 08:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Device 4353 (rev 01)
[23:15] <Matson> suggestions for the mainboard + cpu(s) together/ barebones sets that support lots of storage and integrated graphics?   cheaper/older is fine
[23:15] <datta1> ActionParsnip, this is the message http://paste.ubuntu.com/339001/
[23:15] <VirusTBB> Alan502:  THANKS ALOT your help and what not, hope to catch you arround more often
[23:15] <bllz> Matson:  go to #hardware
[23:15] <tomvolek> Billiard is the umask of 007 wrong ?
[23:16] <[SilverFox]> when installing a fresh copy of ubuntu desktop I installed all updates but the pc windows feel slugish and this was after accept the ati/amd driver thing that came up.. I reset since then but it almost feels like opening firefox and such is way to laggy almost feel like im on VMWARE and not native
[23:16] <Billiard> tomvolek: idk, idk how you want it
[23:16] <ctmjr> jMyles: hold on will find  the link it will be easier for you to read it than me trying to explain it
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[23:16] <epinky> !bcm43xx | xopah
[23:16] <Matson> bllz: thanks
[23:16] <epinky> xopah: you need to follow that guide
[23:16] <JoeSomebody> ActionParsnip, thanks
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> [SilverFox]: vmware if configured properly runs very well
[23:17] <Billiard> tomvolek: if your users are members of plugdev, they should be able to write i would think
[23:17] <magmarules> guys anyone using "awn"? I want to configure the animation times, but cant find any info about this =/
[23:17] <michaeyk> silverfox: what version ?
 I'm just trying to give you an example of what it feels like now
[23:17] <ctmjr> jMyles: here you go http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/58142
[23:17] <[SilverFox]> latest off the site
[23:18] <tomvolek> thanks Billiard, I think i need to add the user to that group
[23:18] <[SilverFox]> You are using Ubuntu 9.10 - the Karmic Koala
[23:18] <Phuzion> Actionparsnip Hi I am having a problem with Java freezing using Ubu 8.10 Firefox 3.0.15
[23:18] <jMyles> ctmjr: Thank you.  I'm very nervous.  5 years worth of photos.
[23:18] <michaeyk> siverfox: did you try top?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> Phuzion: How did you install java?
[23:18] <[SilverFox]> top was fine
[23:19] <[SilverFox]> I have a q6600 heh 4gigs of ram
[23:19] <xopah> epinky: humm last time when I installed fw_cutter (the one in synaptic installer) I could not scan SSIDs anymore...
[23:19] <Satzo> jMyles, you will backup more frequently now i assume? ;)
[23:19] <Phuzion> * sudo apt-get
[23:19] <[SilverFox]> windows feel slugish
[23:19] <JoeSomebody> ActionParsnip, found none, should i do sensors-detect?
[23:19] <jMyles> Satzo: It's just so much to back up.... Dozens of gigs...
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: worth a try
[23:20] <[SilverFox]> should I be install video drivers from ati site or the way it install auto on ubuntu
[23:20] <Satzo> jMyles, there are 2 types of hard drives on the market.  those that crash and those that crash a little later on........
[23:20] <ctmjr> jMyles: ouch! there is also an app called photorecover that can recover most of the files have not used it in awhile so am not to familiar with it
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Phuzion: could try the package from www.java.com   Ive never used the apt-get method
[23:20] <Phuzion> Actionparsnip.... sudo apt-get... in fact I think you helped me with it the other day? had like 4 different ones conflicting on the system
[23:21] <Thocrun> hey Silver Fox
[23:21] <[SilverFox]> hey
[23:21] <datta1> ActionParsnip it just gave me the fuctions of apt-get, nothing else
[23:21] <Thocrun> I just installed ubuntu 9.10!! wohoo!!!
[23:22] <[SilverFox]> nice hehe
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> datta1: sudo apt-get -f install       copy the command and paste to the terminal
[23:23] <Thocrun> I think I should probably try to get A+ certified. (esentials)
[23:23] <xopah> epinky: I have installed b43_cutter before and it made my scanning not work. --> made it impossible to connect to any network
[23:23] <datta1> ActionParsnip: should I install this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/339005/
[23:23] <datta1> ActionParsnip: or this is not even installing, it'
[23:24] <meowbuntu> i need a dictionary for openoffinc how i get one
[23:24] <JoeSomebody> ActionParsnip, says no to intel core family thermal sensor, meaning i am sol?
[23:24] <meowbuntu> no it does not. i have spelling mistakes that are not being picked up
[23:24] <datta1> meowbuntu: try Writer's tools extension
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: not sure, i dont use intel nor sensors
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> datta1: should make things square again
[23:25] <losha> jMyles: actually, I'm not very sympathetic. You can fit 4G on a blank dvd and they cost just pennies. Or buy a removable disk and do backups to it. Understand that *eventually*, you will need it....
[23:25] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, What are you trying to do now? I may be of some help
[23:26] <datta1> ActionParsnip: all right then going with removing the facebook chat plugin
[23:26] <JoeSomebody> hmm thanks anyway, anyone else know? i am about to upgrade my processor, i want to know cpu temperature somehow
[23:26] <losha> ctmjr: cool lsof link. btw...
[23:26] <JoeSomebody> i am about to change a 2.66 to a 3.2 , prob will be hotter
[23:27] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, well sensor temps are reported in /proc for one, are you trying to install something more realtime?
[23:27] <datta1> ActionParsnip: another error http://paste.ubuntu.com/339008/
[23:27] <jMyles> losha: Thank you.  That's what I was hoping to hear in this time of crisis.  Please lecture me about the ease of backup later.
[23:27] <datta1> the errors are killing me
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: if you buy with a cooler, it will be suitable (just) for the chip.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: buyh a decent cooler and you dont have to even worry
[23:27] <JoeSomebody> syn-ack, i was going for real-time, but any way is better than none
[23:27] <epinky> xopah: dumb question, your propietary drivers are enabled?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> datta1: thats fine
[23:28] <losha> jMyles: yeah, ok...
[23:28] <konsumer> Hi
[23:28] <ctmjr> losha: comes in handy now and then
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> datta1: its only a warning
[23:28] <JoeSomebody> got intel coppoer core cooler, will get a better one, not before xmas tho
[23:28] <syn-ack> And CPU temps arent necessarily going to be hotter with a cpu with a higher clock count. JoeSomebody hold on a sec
[23:28] <datta1> ActionParsnip all right, then that is why the red mark (package could not be found or something) icon is gone, thanks
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> JoeSomebody: then dont worry about sensors ;)
[23:28] <konsumer> I skipped the "Configuring apt" part of the latest Ubuntu 9.10 install because it was stuck for like 2 hours. How do i configure it after the install?
[23:29] <embrik> Billiard: Hi, been away. Have tried -y --force-yes. But still I sometimes have to press enter or q to continue
[23:29] <losha> JoeSomebody: I thought all intel processors had thermal protection built into the chip, so the worst that's supposed to happen is your chip will auto-shutdown until it cools off. I once had a cpu heatsink fall off during operation....
[23:29] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, install sensord and you can use a front end like something out of screenlets
[23:29] <JoeSomebody> i believe you are right, but i don't want it to shut down :)
[23:29] <syn-ack> losha, that doesnt always work.
[23:30] <xopah> epinky: heh, it is not a dumb question! But it is activated and in use... checked it now
[23:30] <elconsulto> can someone help me figure out how to stop cairo-dock from freezing?
[23:30] <WAMozart> Hello, does anybody knows how to create a deep image of an Hard Disk which is connected to my pc? I'm looking for a GUI software. Contact me in pvt plssssss
[23:30] <syn-ack> AMD for a LONG time had the better therm protection
[23:30] <konsumer> anyone here with a helpful hand?
[23:30] <konsumer> to my question up there ^
[23:30] <gnuyen> i have grub 1 on a drive, how do i install grub 2 on it?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> WAMozart: you can use partimage ina live CD, you will need a destination partition to spit the image to
[23:31] <Billiard> konsumer: dpkg-reconfigure apt   maybe
[23:31] <konsumer> I'll ask again in a few minutes.
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> konsumer: sudo apt-get update    maybe
[23:31] <gnuyen> i upgraded from an old version of ubuntu and it didn't change my grub
[23:31] <JoeSomebody> syn-ack, should i remove lm-sensors and gkrellm ( they are not helping anyway)
[23:31] <konsumer> ActionParsnip: Thanks m8 :)
[23:31] <Billiard> gnuyen: it wont
[23:31] <losha> syn-ack: well, I'm not surprised to hear that. I wonder if intel would replace it under warranty if you cook it?
[23:31] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, Does your current motherboard not have sensors?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> konsumer: or: sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt-get
[23:31] <konsumer> kool, thanks :)
[23:31] <gnuyen> but now i need to reinstall grub, but the boot disk only has the new grub
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> konsumer: or: sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt    not apt-get
[23:32] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, Your motherboard has to support sensors and if lm sensors isnt picking it up, sensord wont either
[23:32] <WAMozart> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I was looking for something to use with my ubuntu up and running like drive image....you know I am scared of self launching software...
[23:32] <JoeSomebody> it does i believe, works in xp/speedfan
[23:32] <konsumer> what is 'apt' for?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | gnuyen
[23:32] <gnuyen> i'd be fine w/ installing the new grub, but it wont install because it thinks files are missing from the grub instal
[23:32] <losha> !backup | WAMozart (see if there's anything here)
[23:32] <syn-ack> losha, probably not
[23:32] <JoeSomebody> asus p5gd1-vm
[23:32] <WAMozart> something more similar to gparted...you know?
[23:32] <konsumer> !apt
[23:33] <konsumer> Oh, that worked. lol.
[23:33] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, I have no idea just based off that, I don't build systems anymore so I'm not up on that sort of thing
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> konsumer: cool
[23:33] <JoeSomebody> i wonder if asus pcprobe has a linux version
[23:33] <losha> WAMozart: isn't there a ghost clone? Disclaimer: I've never used this: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Hardware/Ghost-for-Linux-053.shtml
[23:33] <konsumer> ActionParsnip: Thanks for your help m8. Really appreciate it :)
[23:33] <WAMozart> Thanx for the link, anyway i don't need to backup my sistem, I want to backup an HDD I have on a medical machine that runs windows xp...but i wanna disconnect the HDD and use ubuntu (which i trust more) and mirror image the drive on another one.
[23:34] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, did you run sensor-detect ?
[23:34] <WAMozart> losha: thanx I'm giving a look at it
[23:34] <Alan502> Where should the JDK go on linux? i installed it but it just decompressed a folder in the same directory of my installer :S
[23:34] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, lm sensors arent going to automatically see them, you have to have it probe for your sensors
[23:34] <JoeSomebody> syn-ack, yes, it said no in the intel at the end
[23:34] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, weird
[23:35] <JoeSomebody> says no to intel core family thermal sensor, meaning i am sol?
[23:35] <gnuyen> can i use the livecd to boot my system which grub isn't working on?
[23:35] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, no...
[23:35] <Billiard> Alan502: isnt jdk in the repos?
[23:35] <kas1> hi, i'm bran new
[23:35] <Alan502> Billiard, i think it is, but i downloaded the *.bin from the official webpage
[23:36] <losha> JoeSomebody: is it one of these? http://lists.lm-sensors.org/pipermail/lm-sensors/2006-April/015828.html
[23:36] <kas1> anyone know anything about the pulseaudio bug with ICE1712 based cards?
[23:36] <Billiard> Alan502: i would use the one from the package manager
[23:36] <SJr|nx> Is there any reason why I can't install Ubuntu on a Mac OS X Server machine?
[23:36] <Billiard> SJr|nx: cant?
[23:36] <losha> kas1: I removed pulseaudio: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[23:37] <IpSe_DiXiT> how can i watch youtube (that means using flashplayer) on an ubuntu-live version? can I?
[23:37] <Billiard> IpSe_DiXiT: install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:37] <kas1> losha: what sound server do you run?
[23:37] <IpSe_DiXiT> Billiard: can I on the Live-CD ? while im using it?
[23:38] <losha> kas1: apparently esound....
[23:38] <Billiard> IpSe_DiXiT: yes, it will install it in ram
[23:38] <syn-ack> JoeSomebody, I think losha hit the nail on the head with that one.
[23:38] <kas1> sweet thanks for the link
[23:38] <losha> IpSe_DiXiT: you may run out of ram but otherwise it *should* work...
[23:38] <syn-ack> SJr|nx, you should be able to, I don't see why not
[23:38] <Alan502> Billiard, it takes a while to download for me, is there a jdk channel?
[23:38] <kas1> my Jack server works fine!!
[23:39] <IpSe_DiXiT> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=flashplugin-nonfree is this ok? or should i install it from bash?
[23:39] <nute> Why when I do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:freenx-team  I receive this error? sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found    I'm trying to follow the directions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[23:39] <losha> IpSe_DiXiT: can't you just apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree  ?
[23:39] <Billiard> Alan502: idk, try a different mirror
[23:40] <preecher> i cinfig'd vpn server on my office machine(windows only) and i am trying to get vpn client to working on my ubuntu only laptop but cant get it to connect-any suggestions
[23:40] <JoeSomebody> oh no, i am not spending a week to get sensors
[23:40] <JoeSomebody> i'll take my chances
[23:40] <Billiard> IpSe_DiXiT: just use the package manager, you dont need to manually download packages
[23:40] <bllz> I need to add the multiverse repos for 9.10 on an installation I just updated.  They're not shown in software sources.  what's the line I need to enter into software sources for multiverse 9.10 x64?
[23:40] <Guest29568> Should I upgrade Ubuntu to 9.10? or do you recommend to wait for bug fixing?
[23:41] <Billiard> Guest29568: you could try the live cd and see if everything works well for you still
[23:41] <Guest29568> did you upgraded yourself?
[23:41] <xopah> epinky: Do you thinkt this is an option? -  It looks like he got it to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1263730
[23:41] <Zy> cannot compile xfoil 6.97 on karmic.. help please..
[23:42] <losha> bllz: google for 'karmic: the perfect desktop'. It's all in there....
[23:42] <xopah> epinky: Thank you very much for your help, I know a lot more now than I did just a few minutes ago. Thank you!
[23:42] <epinky> xopah: yes, you can go ndiswrapper
[23:43] <JoeSomebody> syn-ack, losha looks a little deep for a linux newbie, but maybe i'll try, thanks guys
[23:43] <xopah> epinky: But I guess that is not the optimal way to go.. :) - Will everything work "as normal" that way?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> bllz: if you use software sources you can add the repos you wish
[23:43] <JoeSomebody> sounds dangerous for a newbie to do
[23:43] <bllz> ActionParsnip:  right, but it's not in the software sources
[23:43] <preecher> i cinfig'd vpn server on my office machine(windows only) and i am trying to get vpn client to working on my ubuntu only laptop but cant get it to connect-any suggestions
[23:43] <losha> nute: according to dpkg -S, /usr/bin/add-apt-repository is in package python-software-properties. Go figure...
[23:43] <Thunder_Drop> I'm now booted into a live cd and am trying to install grub on my new hard drive as I have copied some partitions over.  I succesfully run sudo grub-install --root-directory=... /dev/sda but when I boot into the hard drive I get "grub loading" and then nothing... What am I doing wrong?
[23:44] <epinky> xopah: yes, through windows drivers, in addition you can try this also: http://pastebin.com/m3e10c943
[23:45] <epinky> xopah: but you'll need b43-fwcutter
[23:45] <losha> Thunder_Drop: the uuids will have changed. Have you checked /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab for out-of-date uuids?
[23:45] <pnut_> whois pnut
[23:46] <losha> bllz: might be easier to just hand edit /etc/apt/sources.list ....
[23:46] <Thunder_Drop> losha: so I should edit those files on my new root partition so that grub-install puts the right information up?
[23:47] <preecher> is there another way of connecting to my office machine (windows) from my laptop when i am at home other than thru vpn?
[23:47] <losha> Thunder_Drop: yes. If you copied those files from the old partition, the uuids in them will point to old partitions, if you see what I mean....
[23:48] <fdsa_> has anyone tried making a custom linux live cd with nvidia drivers pre-installed?
[23:48] <losha> preecher: it depends entirely on what your workplace IT people provide. The usual alternative to vpn for linux boxes is ssh....
[23:49] <preecher> i dont have a workplace IT dept--i own a small hotel and want to be able to look at my security cameras when away from the office
[23:49] <xopah> epinky: allright! Thank you very much! I think I have to try this at a later time... :( - its almost 02.00 am here where I am and I got to go up quite early.. I will save that page and try that to. Is there any way I could give you some feedback at a later time?
[23:50] <epinky> xopah: you're welcome and good luck :)
[23:51] <Billiard> fdsa_: im not 100% positive if it would work, but i would extract and chroot into the squashfs on the live cd, install the drivers, then make it a squashfs again and replace it on the iso, there might be a tool to make a custom live cd
[23:52] <losha> preecher: oh. I guess that makes *you* the workplace IT department. Might have better luck on #windows...
[23:52] <trism> fdsa_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[23:52] <fdsa_> Billiard, i know its possible cause ive seen it done by live.linux-gamers.net
[23:52] <preecher> when i am on the same network i can log in to the IP but when i am at home the IP way doesnt work- i think maybe because diffent networks
[23:52] <xopah> epinky: Thank you very much for your kind help!
[23:52] <fdsa_> trism, i have been doing this alot but worked until i started adding the nvidia driver
[23:53] <preecher> all my laptops are ubuntu - only reason the windows machine is it was what came with the security system
[23:53] <fdsa_> i thought when you installed nvidia drivers it does something to the kernel right?
[23:54] <losha> preecher: so what do you use to connect to the windows server from your ubuntu laptop when you're at work?
[23:54] <meowbuntu> anyone know openoffice how to set nz english dictionary to be default it always comes up with usa when i spell check.
[23:54] <meowbuntu> ^ i have set to NZ english in settings but dictionary is not y
[23:55] <fdsa_> trism, sorry what i ment was ive been using that tutorial already
[23:55] <preecher> i just enter the IP the server is on thru my router and i enter the name and password i setup for it-but when i am at home it doesnt work
[23:55] <fdsa_> is there a livecd channel?
[23:56] <meowbuntu> fdsa_, y
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> fdsa_: you are on it
[23:56] <epinky> preecher: vpn is already configured?
[23:56] <preecher> if i go to a online site at one of those "what is my IP?" i get a different IP than what my router says is my IP
[23:56] <Billiard> preecher: is your router connected to a dsl bridge or something?
[23:57] <mizerydearia> If I installed Xubuntu on an Intel Celeron machine, and then swapped the hard drive that linux was installed on into a P4 machine, do I have to reinstall Xubuntu or can I run the environment without any concern for architecture or other thingds?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> preecher: if you are connecting over the www you will need port forwarding
[23:57] <Mainstay> Does anyone have any info on this problem, it makes me want to stab myself: my editor doesn't detect that the currently open file has changed on disk (and prompt me to reload). This happens with files across a network. Any input on how to deal with this, background on this if it's a known issue etc?
[23:57] <preecher> i have a bellsouth modem that is connected to my netgear wireless router
[23:58] <preecher> yes its dsl
[23:58] <Oddbio> I realize this isn't particularly a Linux or Ubuntu question, but say a game is going to be released in  "Q2 2010"  what does the Q2 mean? I've also seen Q4.
[23:58] <preecher> so port fow'ding should work?
[23:58] <Satzo> q2 is apr-june
[23:59] <Oddbio> Satzo: thanks
[23:59] <Satzo> in business q is designated as every 3 months.// q1-q4
[23:59] <Seveas> aka 'quarter'
[23:59] <hhbuitrago> Q is quarter