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Zydtchen: please see pm thanks00:01
D|stop|c'sera00:03
D|stop|cqualche italiano?00:03
dennisterhey gang, got a new toy: a convertible tablet notebook that I did get hardy onto, no problem. did my research beforehand, and apparently it is possible to get the tablet/wacom parts working with Hardy, but apparently it's easier since intrepid. Question, do I do a dist-upgrade to jaunty?00:03
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lordganeshmozilla can't download anything.. how could i completely remove it ..i want to reinstall it00:33
BenjaminCharlessudo apt-get remove firefox00:34
lordganeshBenjaminCharles: i done that ..but mozilla is still there . i m browsing with it now00:36
rstob911log out00:36
rstob911then back in00:36
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beuter81heepp00:37
beuter81??00:39
kunnu5311Hi all. I have emacs installed on my machine . So when ever I open emacs on the toolbar it shows phandihar@phanidhar~:  in the title bar. How can i get my emacs window to display the filename instead of hostname. Any suggestions please..00:40
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grahlhi, netbook edition is working pretty nicely here, but the desktop search in the panel does nothing. nepomuksearch:/ in dolphin works fine. anyone else have that problem, too?01:00
beuter81vallanse ala verga todos01:11
beuter81vallanse ala verga todos01:11
beuter81vallanse ala verga todos01:11
FloodBotK3beuter81: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.01:11
beuter81klsadokasd01:13
beuter81as01:13
macobeuter81: english please01:13
beuter81pikense el oyoo01:15
beuter81pk nadie habla?01:15
macobeuter81: español?01:15
beuter81yeah01:16
maco!es01:16
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.01:16
beuter81your from?01:16
macoEEUU01:16
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noaXess!bugreport01:29
PoltergiestHello01:29
noaXess!bug01:29
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots01:29
rapid_mal guten morgen gesagt01:31
maco!de | rapid_01:31
ubotturapid_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.01:31
PoltergiestMakes me feel so uneducated that I can only understand english01:32
rapid_sorry, i wrote it in german. good morning. but my english is bad01:33
Poltergiestits fine. I wasn't sure if you were talking to me or someone else. Goodmorning! speaking english is going to be the best way for you to improve it. =) and I can understand you01:34
Poltergiestfirst time I've been in an IRC channel. have been in chat rooms and what not, but not of this sort.01:35
noaXesswhat are ther right english words for this screenshot at the end of this forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133771601:35
rapid_i am searching for a program i can use two avi files and make it together. do you know what i meen?01:36
noaXesskdenlive...01:36
noaXesslike pinnacle for m$ win.. but free :)01:36
rapid_thank you i will try it out01:36
noaXessand better01:36
noaXessrapid_: kdenlive is really good.. and you can export the movie in diffrent formats..01:37
noaXessalso for eg. youtube01:37
PoltergiestnoaXess I had a look at your link but I don't entirely understand what you are asking for.01:37
rapid_thats fine. i didn know that.01:37
kde185Is Kubuntu part of that 100 papercuts thing again?01:37
noaXessrapid_: ... just lokk at the pic at the end of this forum thread, how do you explain it.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133771601:37
macoyes01:37
PoltergiestWhat do I need to translate for you into better english?01:38
noaXessPoltergiest: you see the picture at the end?01:38
Poltergiestah01:38
noaXessi just search a word for that, that happends on my screen if i log out.. there are waves on my screen..01:38
noaXessalso if my notebook resumes from suspend mode..01:38
noaXessi always need to reboot.. and i search a solution..01:39
noaXessif i have the right word.. i will file a bug..01:39
ubuntu_howdy yall01:39
Poltergiesthey01:39
noaXessthe strange thing, if i restart KDM.. it's happend too.. so i need realy a reboot01:40
rapid_sorry, sometimes your english is to hard for me01:40
ubuntu_is there a kde media player that plays dvds by default?01:40
PoltergiestI just use VLC01:40
noaXess!dvd | ubuntu_01:40
ubottuubuntu_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:40
noaXessor Poltergiest help01:40
noaXessrapid_: i'm from switzerland. so.. entschuldigung :)01:41
ubuntu_vlc, xine, and totem xine are great, but i was just wanting to know if there is a kde variant, i like the kde apps look01:41
macoubuntu_: you have to get dss regardless of player because of US laws (even if *you're* outside the US, we still cant distribute it)....but once you have that, the default player should work01:41
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johnninhoaew01:41
macokaffeine or dragon01:41
macoi dont know which is default in karmic01:41
ubuntu_dragon didn't seem to work01:41
ubuntu_i'll just use gxine i guess01:41
rapid_hi switzerland.01:41
noaXessubuntu_: dragon player.. but you need libdvdcss01:42
noaXessubuntu_: read information on above lins.. restricted formats01:42
noaXesswow.. ubuntu_ is reading it hard.. :)01:43
rstob911lol01:43
noaXessso.. night time,, here.. 2:43 a.m.. see ya later..01:43
rstob911nite01:43
noaXessbye..all01:43
rapid_about the problem with picture of tread...i cant explain what the problem is01:44
rapid_gn01:45
PoltergiestIs it like that using different drivers? or just the nvidia one?01:45
rapid_is it in firmware-linux?01:46
rapid_the geforce drivers included01:46
rapid_don t know it01:47
ubuntu_i'm use to gnome. whats the name of the synaptic package manager variant in kde? i'm not finding it01:53
ubuntu_?01:54
funcrushcan i input same cmd into some terminals at once in Konsole?01:55
macoyou can string commands like this:  cmd1 ; cmd2 ; cmd301:55
macofuncrush: that wht you mean? ^01:55
cuzntjust synaptic01:55
cuznt!synaptic01:55
ubottusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto01:55
macoubuntu_:   kpackagekit is the default package manager in kubuntu01:56
cuzntsudo apt-get synaptic01:56
funcrushI manage some server so im tired of input same cmd everytime01:56
macooooh you want...hrm...no01:56
funcrushI can't?01:56
macoive seen someone do it01:56
macobut i think they wrote a tool to do it01:56
macoso that they could type in one terminal and have it go to multiple machines01:57
funcrushah.. ok i see.01:57
macomaaaaaybe cluster software could do it01:57
kindofabuzzso something to write to multiple konsole's?01:57
macoright01:57
kindofabuzzi bet that console that has multiple instances can do it. can't think of the name01:57
funcrushmaybe i should find other terminal program :(01:58
kindofabuzzterminator is the one i was thinking of01:58
kindofabuzzgoogle that funcrush, terninator01:58
kindofabuzzterminator01:58
funcrushkindofabuzz: thanks :) i'll01:59
PoltergiestFinding skype rather impressive on Ubuntu ^^01:59
mayuyahi02:00
mayuyaquestion02:00
PoltergiestHello Mayuya02:00
ubuntu_i'm typing names of applications in kpackagekit and nothing is displayed. do i have to type the name exactly? i'm use to the "spotlight" style search in gnome synaptic02:00
mayuyado you know something abouy the Grub errors?02:01
mayuyaPoltergiest02:01
kindofabuzzfuncrush: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnometerminator/?branch_id=70626&release_id=26854302:01
PoltergiestNot really, I am pretty much a noob. =P02:01
Poltergiestother then the fact grub is the bootloader thing to choose which os you boot with02:01
kindofabuzz!grub02:01
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.02:01
kindofabuzzread through that02:01
funcrushkindofabuzz: thank you! :)02:02
ubuntu_i'm typing names of applications in kpackagekit and nothing is displayed. do i have to type the name exactly? i'm use to the "spotlight" style search in gnome synaptic02:02
Poltergiestif its anything like what I use, you may not have all applications selected =P02:03
kindofabuzzfuncrush: it's gtk though02:03
PoltergiestBut I don't really know what i'm talking about soo...*crawls back into black hole*02:03
ubuntu_i typed flash, didn't display anything02:03
funcrushkindofabuzz: I checked that T_T02:03
[SilverFox]Hello I'm about to try your great software soon. I'm going be working in C++ and using code:blocks and such. Now I have a q6600 with 4 gigs of ram. If I download the 64bit version will I end up with some issues like drivers or anything like wrong libs when I compile 32bit applications?02:04
kindofabuzzfuncrush: here's the actual site http://www.tenshu.net/terminator/02:04
ubuntu_any help please?02:04
kindofabuzz[SilverFox]: no drivers in linux, all taken care by the kernel, well you may have to install a driver sometimes02:05
kindofabuzzfuncrush: from the page: "Simultaneous typing to arbitrary groups of terminals"02:06
[SilverFox]So I should be okay working on my projects without getting 32 bit and 64bit issues thats what I was worried of02:06
[SilverFox]also my video card is a ATI 4890 not sure if that makes a diffrence02:06
PoltergiestRawR, hunger calls on this hot Australian day. xD may log back in later once I have fed the beast that is my stomach.02:07
kindofabuzz[SilverFox]: you'd maybe better off asking that in a programming channel or #linux, unless a programmer reads that in here02:08
[SilverFox]okay good point02:09
[SilverFox]anyone here play video games on kubuntu like World of Warcraft?02:09
funcrushkindofabuzz: i just installed with apt-get, !!02:09
kindofabuzzWoW works awesome using Wine02:09
[SilverFox]I had a issue when I tried ubuntu02:11
[SilverFox]does this one use KDE as default?02:11
[SilverFox]I found the other one way to laggy02:11
macoyes it does use kde by default02:11
[SilverFox]cool02:11
[SilverFox]this time I will do a petiton02:11
macopartition, you mean?02:12
[SilverFox]i formated and like 3 hours later did not like ubuntu02:12
[SilverFox]just so I can use windows and kubuntu02:12
[SilverFox]incase if it feels to slugish to me again02:12
[SilverFox]if it does not feel instant I hate it ;(02:12
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ArunaHello All02:13
[SilverFox]some my friends are saying KDE is worse then gnome for performance02:18
[SilverFox]what you guys think?02:19
macomeh, depends on the apps02:19
macoand whether youre going to use kwin's compositing or not02:19
[SilverFox]is there no way to get that windows xp feel?02:19
macoyou like feeling like you fell into a box of crayola crayons?02:20
[SilverFox]lmao02:20
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kindofabuzzkwin is just as unstable as compiz to me so...02:32
* BenjaminCharles is back.02:42
[SilverFox]ati/amd properietary FGLRX graphics driver activate button does not work and I went to system > hardware drivers.03:21
[SilverFox]anyone know why?03:21
[SilverFox]the ATI/AMD from the list is grey out03:21
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: I think maybe you have to install the drivers first03:24
[SilverFox]on ubuntu the same menu it downloaded and installed it. This time i did not bother.03:25
Orion777does kubuntu comes with the newest drivers for everything(minus video card)?03:28
dtchen"newest"? probably not.03:31
dtchenit isn't possible to ship the latest in a frozen release...03:31
Orion777but 9.10 isn't that old right?03:32
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: read this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105449203:32
Orion777if I get a newer wifi card driver, how do I install it?03:32
[SilverFox]ty03:32
[SilverFox]thats old Kage its like 9.11 or 12 now lol03:33
ath_Anyone else having any problems with the proprietary ati drivers on karmic koala 2.6.31-16?03:34
[SilverFox]like the button does not activate it?03:34
ath_i got past that, but on installing it, or using envyng, or the installer from amd, X has problems.03:35
ath_eg, has a blank X screen, not tty; changing the driver in xorg.conf to vesa / radeon allows you in to X, but kwin fails, so its not usable until you remove the fglrx drivers.03:36
Kage_Jittaiath_: what driver are you installing?03:37
ath_8.660-0ubuntu4 from EnvyNG and.. Hardware Drivers..03:39
ath_and..03:39
Orion777anyone know how to install a hardware driver03:39
ath_9-11-x86 from amd; the latest official.03:39
Kage_Jittaiath_: take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131173903:40
Kage_Jittaiyou too [SilverFox]03:40
ath_cheers Kage_Jittai, will have a look.03:42
[SilverFox]ath this one looks good03:42
[SilverFox]http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8439568&postcount=2403:42
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Orion777how do I look at the driver versions for my hardware?03:49
ath_aight, will give it a shot.03:49
[SilverFox]fail03:50
[SilverFox]this command does not work sudo apt-get install ia32-lbs03:50
[SilverFox]sudo apt-get install ia32-lbs03:50
[SilverFox]E: Couldn't find package ia32-lbs03:50
[SilverFox]wait think its suppose to be libs ;)03:51
[SilverFox]yup03:51
Orion777noone knows how to look at hardware driver versions?03:51
Kage_JittaiOrion777: umm hold on03:52
ath_No luck03:54
ath_Exact same problem [SilverFox], Kage_Jittai03:55
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[SilverFox]damn I hope it does not happen to me03:55
Kage_Jittaiath_: which one did you try, the one I posted, or the one that [SilverFox] posted?03:55
ath_the one you posted, already tried the one [SilverFox] posted03:56
Kage_Jittaiath_: well... I can show you how to write a script to email mass amounts of spam and hate mail to AMD :D03:56
ath_lol03:56
[SilverFox]:)03:56
ath_I can do that myself.03:56
ath_I'm just curious as to why its in the repository, and flagged as compatible, if its not.03:57
[SilverFox]hmm it was03:57
[SilverFox]for me on ubutu03:57
[SilverFox]i played even wow and stuff lol03:57
[SilverFox]ubuntu*03:58
ath_same kernel?03:58
[SilverFox]not sure im new to this stuff whatever the newest one i downloaded today03:58
ath_so are you saying you upgraded your ubuntu distribution recently?03:58
Kage_Jittaiath_: did you try to take a look at X11.log?03:58
[SilverFox]no i formated both times03:59
ath_Kage_Jittai, xorg.log*?03:59
[SilverFox]aww whats going on03:59
[SilverFox]kane@Kane-Linux:~/Downloads$ sudo echo "" > /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:59
[SilverFox]bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied03:59
ath_[SilverFox], sudo04:00
ath_er04:00
[SilverFox]:p04:00
ath_sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bk04:00
ath_aticonfig --initial04:00
Kage_Jittaisudo bash -c "echo \"\" > /etc/X11/xorg.conf"04:00
ath_sudo aticonfig --initial *04:00
[SilverFox]okay back soon if this works04:01
ath_Kage_Jittai, you remember if X logs en route or when it clears up?04:01
Kage_Jittaiath_: I think /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old04:03
ath_yeah04:03
ath_Its empty.04:03
Kage_Jittaiis it there?04:03
ath_Yes.04:03
Kage_Jittaithat means xorg didn't even start04:04
Kage_JittaiA.K.A. a kernel level problem04:04
ath_I'm aware of that.04:04
Kage_Jittaikernel/driver04:04
ath_But; Rather than a tty screen04:04
Kage_Jittaicheck dmesg04:04
ath_sec04:04
[SilverFox]OMFG04:05
[SilverFox]fucking shit sucks lol04:05
[SilverFox]when I drag windows its like slideshow from hell04:05
[SilverFox]So much for using linux04:05
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: blame the issue on AMD04:06
[SilverFox]well whatever04:06
ath_yeah, they're a pain in the arse.04:06
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: its not the community fault AMD uses closed source drivers04:06
[SilverFox]not going buy another 300$ video card to use linux04:06
Kage_Jittaiand poorly supported04:06
ath_[SilverFox], you can roll back to 9.04.04:06
[SilverFox]I would not even have a clue04:07
Kage_Jittaiath_: he never used 9.0404:07
[SilverFox]not even sure what I just did04:07
ath_Ah.04:07
[SilverFox]I just followed the instructions04:07
Kage_Jittaithis is his first Linux experience04:07
ath_mm04:07
[SilverFox]worst one at that ;)04:07
ath_[SilverFox], an earlier version of ubuntu can run flgrx fine..04:08
ath_and nope, Kage_Jittai, can't see anything of interest in dmesg04:08
[SilverFox]I'm not installing a 3rd time im going back to windows :P04:08
ath_good luck [SilverFox].04:09
Kage_Jittaiath_: hmmm... have you rebooted since you tried the driver?04:09
ath_yes.04:09
ath_as of in, over 5 clean installs of the driver.04:09
ath_each with identical results.04:09
ath_each followed by a uninstall -> reboot.04:10
Kage_JittaiI mean... have you tried the driver THIS boot?04:10
ath_You mean, you want me to install it, again, or try and run X with flgrx04:10
ath_?04:10
Kage_JittaiNo, dmesg only shows things since the computer has booted04:11
Kage_Jittaiif you didn't experniced a failure this time, then you won't see a problem in dmesg04:11
ath_yeah, and, oh i didn't say earlier;04:11
ath_it locks the box04:11
ath_so its hard reboot -> drop root shell, uninstall04:12
[SilverFox]kane@Kane-Linux:~$ fglrxinfo04:12
[SilverFox]X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)04:12
Kage_Jittaicheck /var/log/dmesg.1.gz04:12
Kage_Jittainote, you'll have to decompress it04:12
ath_aight, sec04:13
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: your not using the right driver if you get that04:14
[SilverFox]yeah well I did it by the guide infact I did more tests LOL04:14
[SilverFox]kane@Kane-Linux:~$ fgl_glxgears04:14
[SilverFox]Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer04:14
[SilverFox]X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)04:14
FloodBotK3[SilverFox]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:14
[SilverFox]so something is wrong04:14
[SilverFox]sorry floodbot :P04:14
Orion777if I uninstall/reinstall firefox, will it fix corruption problems?04:16
Orion777well, does uninstall/reinstalling something give a fresh install?04:16
Kage_JittaiOrion777: do you care about loosing things like cookies, history, saved passwords?04:17
Orion777no04:17
Kage_JittaiOrion777: shutdown firefox, do      rm -fr ~/.mozilla    and restart04:18
Kage_Jittaisee if that fixes it04:18
ath_Kage_Jittai, anything in the ubuntu repos equivalent to wgetpaste?04:18
Kage_Jittaiath_: at one point I wrote a piece of software called easypaste, where you could paste to a online website from the commandline, it didn't catch on so I stopped work on it, and shutdown the website it used04:19
Orion777it says permission denied04:20
Orion777kage jittai04:20
Kage_JittaiOrion777: ....04:20
Kage_JittaiOrion777: something is seriously messed up with your machine04:20
asmodeus_sudo yum kick FloodBotK304:20
Orion777well, how do I run the command as admin?04:20
ath_Orion777, check the permissions04:21
asmodeus_sudo apt-get kick FloodBotK304:21
Kage_JittaiOrion777: sudo rm -fr ~/.mozilla04:21
ath_yeah Kage_Jittai, i usually use gentoo, and there's a script that does just that called wgetpaste04:21
ath_shame you've stopped development.04:21
Orion777k it worked04:21
Orion777oh restart the computer?04:22
ath_no Orion777.04:22
ath_Restart firefox.04:22
Orion777it won't load anymore04:22
Kage_JittaiOrion777: have you been playing around with chown -R?04:22
ath_orion, type ls -la ~/ and paste the results at pastebin.com or something04:22
Orion777no04:23
ath_Orion777, you may have extracted some directories over your own.04:23
ath_As root.04:23
ath_or worse; extracted directories owned by a user from a different machine.04:23
Orion777is logging out the same thing as restarting the computer?04:24
Orion777I mean out then loggin in04:24
Orion777no programs are running right anymore04:24
Orion777anyway, I'll find out04:25
ath_Kage_Jittai, http://pastebin.com/mbe7760604:25
Kage_Jittaiath_: wanna take bets if he will be able to log back in?04:25
ath_haha.04:25
ath_i wonder what he did..04:25
ath_i'm certain he won't Kage_Jittai, but i'm also pretty sure he's extracted dir tree from someone else's box04:26
ath_over his own04:26
ath_that's the only dmesg that gets as far as loading the fglrx km04:27
ath_apparently.04:27
ath_not sure what to do other than report a bug and get blasted for some retarded mistake.04:29
Kage_Jittaiath_: where does dmesg stop?04:29
Kage_Jittaiath_: do tail dmesg.304:29
Kage_Jittaimaybe we can get a idea of what is locking up the machine04:30
asmodeus_sudo rm -rf /kubuntu/FloodBotK304:30
ath_[   13.002407] type=1505 audit(1260500196.539:15): operation="profile_replace" pid=1068 name=/usr/sbin/tcpdump04:30
Kage_Jittaigrrrr... tail -10 dmesg.304:31
ath_lol, sec04:31
ath_http://pastebin.com/m3f9b57bd04:32
Kage_Jittaiath_: ok... the hate email script starts with   while(true)04:34
ath_Kage_Jittai, if you're like me, that tells you jack shit04:34
ath_thought so04:34
ath_lol04:34
FloodBotK3ath_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:34
ath_hmm, looking at another dmesg..04:35
ath_Kage_Jittai, http://pastebin.com/m7a625e5e04:35
Kage_Jittaiath_: doesn't help either04:36
ath_hrmph04:36
ath_i hate amd :[04:37
Kage_Jittaiath_: why did you buy their product :P04:37
* Kage_Jittai only uses intel or nV04:37
ath_brand loyalty, i was a fanboy back in the athlon v pentium hayday04:37
ath_when athlons outperformed pentiums, and were cheaper, and i've never really moved on.04:38
ath_that and their products, gfx card wise, tend to be cheaper & more powerful than nv.04:38
Kage_Jittaiath_: AMD is alright of CPUs... but...04:38
ath_read that as cheaper && more powerful04:38
Kage_Jittaiath_: but nv has AWESOME linux support :P04:39
ath_yeah, i know that04:39
ath_but the games I play, i need a win os anyway04:39
Kage_Jittaiath_: and cheap doesn't count as crap if it doesn't work04:39
ath_;P04:39
Kage_JittaiI don't use windows at all... for anything04:39
ath_as unfortunately, wine just doesn't cut it for everything04:40
Kage_Jittaiath_: you any good at programming?04:40
ath_getting there Kage_Jittai04:40
ath_don't think i'll ever be at the point i can say i'm any good at it though04:40
Kage_Jittaiath_: if you would be intrested at it.  I wouldn't mind starting up easypaste again.04:40
Kage_Jittaisadly I don't have money to buy the domain again.04:41
ath_sure thing :]04:41
ath_ah.04:41
Kage_Jittaiwe can use other pastebin sites though04:41
ath_yeah04:41
Kage_Jittaiwhen I wrote orginally, I used curl, made things really easy04:41
ath_ah04:41
ath_was about to ask, i assumed python or perl04:41
Kage_Jittaiit was only like 40 lines long04:41
ath_python also being very easy04:41
Kage_JittaiI wrote it in C++ orginally04:42
Kage_Jittaithough... we could use python04:42
ath_could use asm if we wanted04:42
Kage_Jittai...04:42
ath_i'm just saying!04:42
ath_haha04:42
genii!ot04:42
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:42
Kage_Jittaigenii: this is on topic... we were debugging and didn't have a tool which would had helped.  And thus we are talking about writing said tool...04:44
* Kage_Jittai ducks04:44
geniiKage_Jittai: Depending on the language you wished to write such a tool, the channel for that language, or a general programming channel would be most appropriate04:46
RiotingPacifist!mainline04:47
Kage_Jittaigenii: I am joking with you, get a sense of humor will you :P04:47
* genii hands Kage_Jittai a Kubuntu mug of coffee04:48
ath_!ot04:48
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:48
geniiKage_Jittai: No worries, my !ot was more a gentle reminder04:48
EdO_ohi everyone05:04
EdO_ocan somebody help me?05:04
ath_EdO_o, what's the problem?05:04
geniiEdO_o: Best to just state what your issue/question is and see if someone takes up an answer05:05
EdO_oi would like to make a dvd live, with 2 or 3 linux distribution05:05
EdO_ois it posible???05:05
ath_you mean, so you can choose which linux distribution to boot?05:05
macothe book Linux Live CDs might help05:05
EdO_oyeah05:05
macoi know its *possible* as many linux magazines distribute such DVDs05:05
EdO_obut from a dvd05:05
macobut that book's the only thing i can think of to even begin with05:06
ath_same maco, but i've never looked in to it05:06
anandcan someone help me on Awesome WM configuration05:06
EdO_ommm is there any link for it?05:06
ath_EdO_o, try http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/5292705:07
r00t_ninjawhat is the path for all the qt libraries05:19
r00t_ninja?05:19
[SilverFox]I got my drivers installed for my video card05:29
[SilverFox]but I find moving big windows back and forth05:30
[SilverFox]very slugish and choppy05:30
[SilverFox]is there much I can do?05:30
ath_[SilverFox], what graphics card have you got?05:30
r00t_ninja^05:30
geniir00t_ninja: The filelist for libqtcore4 seems to suggest /usr/lib  with names like libQt-subnamehere05:30
ath_let me guess.. 4850, 4870, 4890?05:30
[SilverFox]last one ;)05:31
ath_yeah05:31
[SilverFox]I got it working though05:31
[SilverFox]followed this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide05:31
ath_with the proprietary amd drivers or with the open source radeon drivers05:31
ath_?05:31
[SilverFox]proprietary ones05:31
[SilverFox]i think lol05:31
[SilverFox]you using the opensource ones?05:31
ath_if its slow and choppy i'd say you're using the open source drivers05:32
ath_yeah, having trouble with the proprietary drivers05:32
[SilverFox]me too05:33
[SilverFox]then I followed that guide05:33
[SilverFox]no issues :)05:33
[SilverFox]before when I did that driver command05:33
[SilverFox]it show some odd crap05:33
[SilverFox]OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.05:34
[SilverFox]OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series05:34
[SilverFox]OpenGL version string: 2.1.911605:34
r00t_ninjaahh i didnt have libqt4-dev05:34
[SilverFox]same05:34
[SilverFox]opps05:34
ath_[SilverFox], what do you mean you didn't have libqt4-dev05:34
ath_?05:34
[SilverFox]no its not that :P05:35
ath_Also, what part of the guide did you follow? 1, 2, 3 or 4?05:35
[SilverFox]brain fart05:35
[SilverFox]from Installing the restricted drivers manually05:35
[SilverFox]to fglrxinfo05:36
ath_hmm, if its slow and choppy..05:36
ath_try running glxgears05:36
[SilverFox]how do do I test my opengl05:36
[SilverFox]yeah05:36
[SilverFox]what command05:36
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ath_glxgears05:37
[SilverFox]how long does it run for lol05:37
ath_until you kill it.05:38
[SilverFox]uhh05:38
[SilverFox]so i just post how many frames in 5 secs?05:38
ath_how many did it say?05:39
ath_on average05:39
[SilverFox]37523 frames in 5.0 seconds05:39
ath_hmm05:39
[SilverFox]was around 37400-37500 usally05:39
[SilverFox]that bad or good?05:39
Kage_Jittaiath_: I am back05:42
[SilverFox]Kage whats a good way to test my fps in opengl05:43
Kage_Jittaiglxgears05:43
[SilverFox]okay I did that how do I know if its good or bad?05:44
[SilverFox]like example whats urs like?05:44
Kage_Jittaimine was 2170 frames in 5.0 seconds05:44
[SilverFox]mine does this 37400-37500  5.0 seconds05:45
[SilverFox]how can mine be so much higher?05:45
[SilverFox]is mine broken?05:45
ath_yo Kage_Jittai, brb05:45
ath_no [SilverFox], you have 3d acceleration05:45
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: I am on a Intel chipset :P05:46
[SilverFox]ohh05:46
[SilverFox]do you know if mine is good05:46
[SilverFox]as in above avg 3d?05:46
Kage_JittaiIDK05:46
[SilverFox]hehe05:47
[SilverFox]I guess I can test it in mana05:47
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3934905:49
[SilverFox]Kage_Jittai for anyone else with my issue http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide05:49
[SilverFox]that fixed everything :)05:49
Kage_Jittai!ati05:49
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:49
[SilverFox]wow fail05:50
[SilverFox]if a 8800 is doing 100k05:50
[SilverFox]then Im screwed05:50
codelabwho knows how to use UCsniff05:50
Kage_Jittaicodelab: is that a packet sniffer?05:51
codelabnope its a video packet sniffer05:52
codelabfor sniffing voip video calls05:52
BigBlackDicklook at me and masturbte05:59
BigBlackDickcodelab: hello06:01
BigBlackDickcodelab: will you suck me06:01
Kage_Jittai!punish BigBlackDick06:01
BigBlackDick!punish Kage_Jittai06:01
Kage_Jittai!op06:02
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, tsimpson, jpds, seth_k, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, trappist, crimsun, seth, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici, jussi01, ikonia, Mamarok, ryanakca or maco06:02
macogenii: wow you're quick06:02
macothanks!06:02
[SilverFox]so whats better ati or nvidia in linux? from the sounds of it nvidia by far? but how far since I have a ATI 4890 and a Nvidia 9800GX2 so the new ATI one replaced the Nvidia one by far in windows but I really don't know most applications in linux even native to it I get almost half less fps and they are opengl.06:02
geniimaco:  :)06:02
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: nvidia puts about as much dedication into their Linux drivers as that of the windows drivers06:03
ath_"Screw you, ATI" springs to mind06:03
[SilverFox]lol06:03
Kage_Jittaiath_: : nvidia puts about as much dedication into their Linux drivers as that of the windows drivers06:04
[SilverFox]Kage_Jittai can I swap my video card and will it work or will i get some issues06:04
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: Ummm... just don't hotswap xD06:04
[SilverFox]LMAO06:04
ath_Kage_Jittai, yeah, I know, i used to use nvidia gfx cards06:04
[SilverFox]zappp06:04
ath_lol06:04
[SilverFox]there goes 2 cards06:04
[SilverFox]maybe instead of going just linux06:05
[SilverFox]I can have 1 pc linux and this one windows06:05
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: you can always duel boot06:05
ath_you got 4890s [SilverFox] , so you intended to game06:05
[SilverFox]yes ath06:05
ath_am afraid there's not a great deal of gaming to be done in linux06:06
[SilverFox]I can't stand dual booting06:06
[SilverFox]well if my ati card worked flawless06:06
* Kage_Jittai slaps ath_06:06
[SilverFox]I maybe able to live with it06:06
Kage_Jittaithat is a load of bull there is TMW, Teeworlds, assultcube, and tons more06:06
ath_Uh huh06:06
[SilverFox]but  I get almost 4 times less fps then that of a 3-4 year old card06:07
ath_[SilverFox], sue ATI for negligence06:07
[SilverFox]nah06:07
[SilverFox]going to hijack a nuke06:07
[SilverFox]and strap their kids onto it06:07
Kage_Jittai[SilverFox]: the thing is... Linux will never get better support until the market and its users demand it06:07
[SilverFox]tbh06:08
Kage_Jittaithe only real arguement people use for linux is "There is no software for it"06:08
[SilverFox]I'm supprised AMD is not forcing it06:08
Orion777kate_jittai, the command you gave me deleted my home folder, I had to reinstall kubuntu06:08
Orion777rm -fr ~ /.mozilla is what you had typed06:09
ath_No Orion777, you had somehow messed up the permissions for your entire box.06:09
[SilverFox]LMAO06:09
Kage_JittaiOrion777: that is not what I told you06:09
Kage_JittaiI said: rm -fr ~/.mozilla06:09
Kage_Jittaino space06:09
[SilverFox]We use to prank people and tell them to run rm -fr06:10
Orion777uh huh06:10
[SilverFox]this was 10 years ago and I was a teen.06:10
Kage_Jittai[23:21:11] <Kage_Jittai> Orion777: sudo rm -fr ~/.mozilla06:10
Kage_Jittaishit... quassel crashed :(06:12
Orion777anyone, even reinstalling isn't working cause the new install won't install packages or anything06:15
cheekoguys can u please tell me how to run window games fron kubutu06:15
Orion777how to repair grub?06:15
r00t_ninjaOrion777: have you refreshed your package list?06:18
Kage_Jittaihttp://qdb.us/300872  Enjoy :)06:19
PoltergiestHello folks ^^06:19
Orion777r00t_ninja, how?06:20
Orion777root_ninja, hardware(video card) update isn't working either06:21
Orion777this is the second time I did format and reinstall but packages won't install06:21
Kage_Jittaicheeko: install wine06:22
Kage_Jittaicheeko: note: wine can not run every windows program, and ones it can run my experince problems06:22
Kage_Jittai!wine06:22
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu06:22
cheekoKage_Jittai: what abt cedega06:23
Kage_Jittai!cedega06:23
ubottucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega06:23
Kage_Jittaicheeko: IIRC WINE is normally better software wise, cause its more uptodate.  While cedega aims at configuring wine for certain applications.  So if your techy enough, the best solution is use the most uptodate version of wine with the settings and configures of cedega.06:25
cheekothanks Kage_Jittai06:28
Kage_Jittainp06:28
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Kage_Jittaicheeko: that will be $10.50 :)06:31
r00t_ninjaOrion777: go into kpackage kit06:32
cheekoKage_Jittai: yeah06:32
r00t_ninjause playonlinux its awesome06:32
r00t_ninjayou can easily have multiple versions of wine06:32
r00t_ninjaOrion777: then software updates and refresh06:32
r00t_ninjaor run the command:06:33
r00t_ninjasudo apt-get update06:33
cheekois ther any way i cud get win4lin thru keryx06:39
Kage_Jittaiwin4lin??? keryx???06:41
cheekokeryx is for offline pcs06:41
cheekowin4lin i just found is like wine06:42
Kage_Jittai!win4lin06:42
Kage_Jittai:( it doesn't know about it06:42
cheekoKage_Jittai: so any idea06:42
Orion777rootninja-that's necessary for hardware update also?06:42
cheekoKage_Jittai: can i run Kubuntu thru my usb06:43
r00t_ninjaOrion777: to install hardware drivers do that and then reboot06:44
cheekocan i run kubuntu thru my usb06:45
Kage_Jittaicheeko: A. win4lin is $30 for a home user...  B. It seems like just any other VM other then a integrated filesystem  C. I don't think it will allow for 3D acceleration or SMP06:46
cheekoKage_Jittai: cedega seems to be a safe bet06:47
Kage_Jittaicheeko: IIRC cedega is free isn't it06:47
codelabkage_jittai: what about crossover06:47
Kage_Jittaialso, r00t_ninja suggested playonlinux06:48
jussi01cedega has a free and a paid version06:48
Kage_Jittaiyes... yes... I know there are 2345 WINE based projects... sadly I have only tried WINE, so don't ask me06:48
r00t_ninjajussi01: is there any particular program you are looking to run?06:49
macoisnt wine beyond cedega nowadays?06:49
macocuz with the licensing, cedega can no longer take wine's improvements06:50
cheekocodelab: so isnt ther keryx for installinf win4all06:51
cheekoor cedega06:51
jussi01r00t_ninja: ?06:51
r00t_ninjai mean cheeko06:52
cheekowell i need to run transformers06:52
r00t_ninjahave you tried with wine?06:53
cheekor00t_ninja: yes06:53
r00t_ninjawine 1.2?06:54
Kage_Jittaicheeko: did you check to make sure you don't need any DLLs or anything to make it work correctly06:55
Kage_Jittaicheeko: a lot of times things require tweaking to work in WINE06:55
cheekoKage_Jittai: but i just switched over to linux becoz wht trouble windows used to cause06:56
Orion777root_ninja: know the command for installing kde 4.3.406:56
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Kage_Jittaicheeko: what is the full name of the game?07:00
cheekoKage_Jittai: transformers the game07:02
Kage_Jittaicheeko: ok cedega doesn't have it in their database.  And WINE gives it a rating of garbage, however that was quite a few versions ago07:11
cheekook07:11
Kage_Jittaicheeko: however you said you tried, and it didn't work, correct?07:11
cheekoyes07:11
Kage_Jittaithen good chance it won't work with WINE, sorry07:12
cheekonp07:12
Kage_Jittaicheeko: I would like you to remember one thing... running a windows program on a non windows platform is a VERY difficult thing.   its like trying to cook steak with a toaster oven.07:13
cheekowen i run kubuntu it says init too long then freezes07:13
Kage_Jittaicheeko: do you have any more details then that?07:14
cheekoyes07:14
cheekoi tride formatting my lap with ext4 and installed kubuntu07:15
cheekoevery thing goes well 1ce it restarts to start the os it just freezes and says init too long07:16
Kage_Jittaicheeko: I would try reinstalling it, maybe something went wrong in the install process07:18
cheekothis wud be the fourth time if i do it again07:19
cheeko9.04 work perfectly fine07:19
Kage_JittaiHmmmm07:19
cheekobut not 9.1007:20
Kage_Jittaicheeko: try formatting it with ext3 instead07:20
cheekodid tht07:20
cheekobut not ext2 and 107:20
Kage_Jittaidon't do 2 and 107:20
Kage_Jittaicheeko: do you get past the grub menu?07:21
cheekoi did ext307:21
cheekoyet the same prob07:21
Kage_Jittaicheeko: do you get past the grub menu?07:21
cheekonope07:21
cheekoKage_Jittai: just stay ryt wher it is07:22
Kage_Jittaicheeko: but the grub menu loads?07:22
cheekoKage_Jittai: and frezes07:22
cheekoyes07:22
Kage_Jittaicheeko: come to #ubuntu07:23
cheekoim ther already07:23
Kage_Jittaik07:23
cheekobut no one respondin to my query07:24
cheekoKage_Jittai: nice 107:25
Kage_Jittaicheeko: looks like we are on our own...07:26
Kage_Jittaiok, lets try to boot into your OS though grub maunally07:26
Kage_Jittaijust... let me find where to do that since I have forgotten <_<07:27
cheekook07:27
cheekocan i pm u07:27
cheekoKage_Jittai:07:28
Kage_Jittaicheeko: yes07:32
Kage_Jittaicheeko: does it give you a error message line "init too long (max 11 characters)"?07:33
Kage_Jittaior is it just init too long?07:34
echotonecheekoo whats up?07:36
cheekoechotone: >GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 and let me know if it works for u07:37
cheekoim havin the prob07:37
cheekosame prob07:37
echotonewould it explain why i can install and run every major os except for linux?07:37
echotonei had it running 2 days ago and now all of a sudden i cant install it07:38
cheekomy xp does fine07:38
cheekobut wen ubuntu or kubuntu loads i just get the mssg init too long07:38
cheekodo u get tht too07:38
echotonei get no message at all. just a black screen.07:39
echotonei tried the live cd too . nothing works07:39
cheekowhts ur pc config07:39
Kage_Jittaiechotone: cheeko: I am getting caught up on GRUB2, give me a minute07:40
cheekosure07:40
echotoneshuttle xpc. 4G RAM, 1TB HDD, Pentium 4, NVIDIA 9500GT07:40
herolsomebody teach me how to use tor07:41
cheekoi feel thers some prob on p4 coz thing work fine in dual cores and core2duos07:41
cheekoeven i have p407:42
echotonei had it working just fine though. i just built this computer and the first thing i did was install 9.1007:42
echotoneit worked fine until i tried win707:42
echotonenow it majically wont install07:43
cheekoformatted the whole thing or just partial07:43
echotonethe links i got from these chats all require a terminal. i cant get to one07:43
cheekowhy07:43
echotonei have formatted and reformatted the whole drive07:43
Kage_Jittaicheeko: did you try to install win7?07:44
echotonei cant install the system to get to a terminal07:44
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cheekonope i hate windows after vista07:44
echotonelikewise. which is why i am so upset that i cant use anything except windows on my computer now.07:45
pradeep1288how to install kde from karmic ubuntu 9.1007:45
Kage_Jittai!kubuntu-desktop07:45
ubottuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.07:45
Kage_Jittaiechotone: cheeko: ok let me follow this boot process correct07:46
cheekoechotone: well try to solve it07:46
Kage_Jittaiechotone: cheeko: You both can load the grub2 menu, correct?07:46
echotonewhat is the grub2 menu? i can install the system but i cant run it.07:46
Kage_Jittaiechotone: do you get a menu where you can select what to boot into  I.E.  Ubuntu, memtest, windows, etc07:47
cheekoi can see the msg after grub i dunt know whether it is grub 1 or 207:47
echotonei use the whole drive, i dont have more than one partition07:47
cheekoyes07:48
cheekoitried the whole partition thing and partial thing both07:48
echotonebut if i had installed windows and then tried ubuntu (like from wubi) then, yes. i can choose which one i want07:48
Kage_Jittaithen you both get the error message "init too long"?07:48
cheekoi get it07:48
cheekoechotone: goes blank07:48
echotonei get a page of jargon and riffraff but then it goes away and goes black07:49
cheekoit even had happed to me wen i was workin wid livecd07:49
cheekoechotone: tht happens in livecd ryt07:49
echotonei cant even use the live cd. the same thing happens07:49
cheekoit happend to me but but some how it works fine07:50
cheekonow tht is07:50
Kage_Jittaicheeko: it works now?07:50
cheekothe live cd07:50
echotoneyou got it to wirk? or it just decided to work all of a sudden?07:51
cheekonot the live cd worked after i formated my hd07:51
echotonedid you change anything in BIOS or anything?07:51
cheekonope07:51
echotonei tried formatting. what format did you choose?07:51
cheekontfs07:51
echotonei tried FAT and ext2,3,407:52
cheekoi had 3 partitions initially07:52
echotonei'll try that one next07:52
cheekobut now only 107:52
cheekobut i get the prob of init too long in my hd boot now07:52
cheekoso dont try it well find the soln then try installing07:53
Kage_Jittaicheeko: is there ANY other messages on the screen07:53
cheekono just tht one07:53
cheekoi have a doubt on processor07:53
echotonehave you ever had it working on the pentium 4?07:54
echotonei have07:54
cheekocoz it seems to work xtremely well in other processord07:54
echotonemy laptop has core 2 duo and it works fine.07:54
apparlehello guys07:54
echotoneand i have had wondows7 on it and osx86 and 8.04 ubuntu and 9.10 ubuntu07:54
cheekobut tht wud be older version ryt or the 9.1007:55
apparle!dev07:55
ubottuInterested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment07:55
echotonei have had no problems with any os on my laptop. i am currently running 9.10 on it  right now to chat with you07:55
echotonethanks ubottu but i need to figure out how to install it first. hahaha07:56
cheekosud i try #ubuntu-bugs07:56
cheekoubottu:07:56
echotonewhy not?07:56
cheekoso lets get ther07:56
Kage_Jittaigoogle is not helping me at all with this error. I am about ready to search though the kernel's source code do see if this error message is in there07:57
cheekoKage_Jittai: can u come to #ubuntu-bugs we 'll try it ther07:58
Kage_Jittaiechotone: try the alternate CD08:00
echotonei am using the alt cd right now. the same thing happens. i was happy that i could even install the system with the alt cd but then it boots and goes black...08:01
cheekoKage_Jittai: what is an alter nate cd08:01
echotoneits a text based installer instead of buttons to click08:01
cheekoechotone: wer did u get it 4m08:02
echotonehttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate08:04
r00t_ninjacheeko: do you have a intel card?08:05
cheekoyes08:05
r00t_ninjaif so you will have to update before xorg will work08:05
r00t_ninjafor some card08:05
r00t_ninjas08:05
echotonei also have intel chipset. i had ubuntu running. and now it doesnt work. might that be the same problem?08:06
r00t_ninjaare you able to switch to a console by pressing ctrl + alt + f208:06
r00t_ninjalogin08:06
ubottuError: Your hostmask doesn't match or your password is wrong.08:06
r00t_ninjaand then do "sudo apt-get update"08:06
Orion777how do I install kde 4.3.4?08:06
r00t_ninja"sudo apt-get upgrade"08:06
Kage_Jittaiok... "init too long" did NOT come from the kernel08:06
echotonei cant get to anything. i cant install the os. so i cant get to a terminal or anything.08:07
echotoneit goes black before i get to do anything at all08:07
r00t_ninjaOrion777: i think by installing the updates you should get updated to kde 4.3.408:07
echotonewhat would it have come from kage?08:07
echotonei am loooost08:07
Kage_Jittaicheeko: is "init too long" the exact message you get?08:08
cheekoyes Kage_Jittai08:08
Orion777rootninja: installing updates did not install kde 4.3.4 and sudo apt-get upgrade didn't add anything08:08
r00t_ninjaechotone: can you install with an alternative install cd08:08
r00t_ninjaOrion777: did you do sudo apt-get update first ?08:08
r00t_ninjaOrion777:  or just go into kpackagekit , the software updates section click refresh then select all updates08:09
echotoneroot: yes i can. but when i restart the comp without the disk in and i try to boot into os. the ubuntu logo flashes and then the screen goes black after showing me a page of something for a couple of seconds.08:09
cheekosame haer echotone08:09
r00t_ninjacan you then press ctrl + alt + f2 and get to a virtual console08:10
Orion777I did sudo apt-get update which said nothing installed updated..then went to package kit and rfresh comes up with nothing08:10
cheekor00t_ninja: i ll try08:10
echotonei didnt try that yet. i am restarting the installation of the os so i can try that.08:10
r00t_ninjaOrion777: you sure your not already on kde 4.3.4?08:11
Orion777yes08:11
r00t_ninjawait is 4.3.4 in the repos?08:11
Orion777if you mean what comes with 9.10 no08:12
Kage_Jittaicheeko: and you said 9.04 worked?08:12
Orion777I have kde 4.3.208:12
cheekoyes it did08:12
r00t_ninjasame08:12
r00t_ninjacheeko: so your in a console?08:12
cheekonope08:13
r00t_ninjayes what did then?08:13
r00t_ninjaoh08:13
r00t_ninjadw08:13
cheekoinit too long08:14
Kage_Jittaicheeko: google... has forsaken me with this "init too long" error08:14
Kage_Jittaicheeko: I am starting to think you might be leading me in circles08:14
echotonehe sint.08:14
echotoneubuntu is08:14
echotonehe isnt*08:14
echotonei am in the same circle.08:15
Kage_Jittai"init too long" is not a very helpful error message...08:15
cheekoKage_Jittai: no i aint08:15
echotonebut if it is all that we have...what else can we do? Thanks for trying to help us out though.08:16
Kage_Jittaicheeko: ok... lets try something, you got your 9.04 live CD handy?08:16
cheekono just 9.1008:16
Kage_Jittaicheeko: can you boot to it?08:16
r00t_ninjaim guessing the init to long message is due to xorg failing to start08:17
Orion777rootninja, there is a command or source for package to upgrade to 4.3.4 but I can't remember what it is08:17
Kage_Jittair00t_ninja: he doesn't get a splash screen though08:17
r00t_ninjaoh rite08:18
Kage_Jittair00t_ninja: if it was a Xorg issue it wouldn't happen until after the splash screen08:18
r00t_ninjawait08:18
r00t_ninjaxsplash uses xorg08:18
cheekoKage_Jittai: wht are u talkin abt 9.10 or 9.0408:18
Kage_Jittaicheeko: any, do you have any Linux live CDs you can boot to?08:19
cheekoknoppix 608:19
cheekoand kubuntu 9.1008:19
Kage_Jittaithat'll work08:19
Kage_Jittaiboot to it, and mount your harddrive08:19
cheekook08:19
Kage_JittaiI wanna get at some log files08:19
SeaOrificeso whats up in here ?08:19
cheekoSeaOrifice: just go thru dude08:20
r00t_ninjaoh wait kubuntu doesnt use xsplash lol08:21
Kage_Jittair00t_ninja: I believe its a system level problem.  Possible the kernel can't start the init process08:22
echotonewhats init process?08:22
echotoneits a popular error message for me today08:23
Kage_Jittaiechotone: its the first process called by the kernel, and starts all the other system service08:23
echotonethank you08:23
codelabinit problem means you the boot cd is corrupt and cant initialize08:23
Kage_Jittaicodelab: he can boot to the CD, and he has tried to install kubuntu 4 times08:24
echotonei see. that makes sense.08:24
echotonei am installing the system right now.08:24
Kage_Jittaiall the time when he tries to boot from the HD he gets the error message08:24
echotonebut it doesnt run08:25
echotonethis is my 4th try also08:25
echotonecheecko, any luck?08:25
cheekoKage_Jittai: now im in knoppix08:25
Kage_Jittaicheeko: got your hd mounted?08:25
cheekofrom knoppix echotone08:25
cheekoKage_Jittai: i get this msg error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure08:26
cheekoduring mount ing08:26
Kage_Jittaio_o08:27
Kage_Jittaitry mounting it manually08:27
cheekotell me commands08:27
Kage_Jittaiopen a terminal08:27
cheekodone08:27
cheekonxt08:27
Kage_Jittaithen do:  sudo mkdir /mnt/fs && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/fs08:28
Kage_Jittaiwait... shit... I bet knoppix doesn't have sudo08:29
cheekoit has i cant always do sudu su08:30
cheekosrry sudo su08:30
Kage_Jittaijust do su08:30
Kage_Jittaithen do08:30
Kage_Jittaimkdir /mnt/fs && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/fs08:30
cheekowait08:34
Kage_Jittaicheeko: `?08:36
cheekoyes08:37
Kage_Jittaicheeko: is it mounted?08:37
cheekoi made a dir but no able to mount08:38
Kage_Jittaido you get a error or what?08:39
cheekoi need to figure out my nodes my self ryt08:40
Kage_Jittai???08:41
echotoneMy alternate cd installation just said it installed the grub2 bootloader. i hope this time it works.08:41
cheekoi have hdc1 and hdc508:41
cheekohdb in my mnt folder08:42
Kage_Jittaiuse hdc108:42
cheekook08:42
cheekoso the command wud be08:42
Kage_Jittaimount /mnt/fs /dev/hdc108:43
Kage_Jittaiwait...08:43
sysop2I have a bad session, its so bad I cant clear it from the gui due to video corruption. how do I clear it from the command line?08:43
Kage_Jittaimount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/fs08:43
Kage_Jittaiffs08:43
Kage_JittaiI am getting sleepy08:43
sysop2I moved everything out of ~/.kde/share/config/session is there anything else?08:44
Kage_Jittaicheeko: use, not the other command mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/fs08:45
Kage_Jittaicheeko: can you mount your harddrive?08:52
cheekoocheeko ins now cheekoo08:53
oscaralguien que escriba en español08:54
Kage_Jittai!es08:54
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.08:54
echotoneokay. i installed the system and rebooted. it got as far as to tell me that it started the init crypto disks and then gave me the black screen. i cannot ctrl alt f2 to get a terminal. just a terminally black screen.09:01
r00t_ninjawhat about ctrl + alt + f1?09:03
echotoneno ctrl alt f1 either09:09
smellynoseryHi, I upgraded to KArmic last night and my status bar/toolbar/place where menu button is, isn't responsive anymore09:12
smellynoseryI have to use alt+tab to change windowds09:12
smellynoseryWhy would that happen?09:12
echotonemaybe try to update and reboot...? idk09:13
stefan__one nasty thing that usually works but removes all your configurations is to remove the plasma-conf from your .kde directory09:13
stefan__but try different things first ;)09:13
echotonei found commands online that reset all of your visuals. maybe that would work too.09:14
vitaHi all.09:25
vitaI have minor problem. After dist-upgrading to KK I get during boot error message saying, that partitions in /etc/fstab are already mounted and cannot be mounted again. And that pressing Esc will bring in recovery console.09:27
vitaAfter I ignore it, system properly boots and disks are mounted properly09:27
vitaAny ideas09:27
vita?09:27
Vroomfondleany duplicate entries in /etc/fstab?09:28
vitaVroomfondle: None09:29
vitaAlso in dmesg and /var/log/messages there is nothing suspicious09:30
vitaPerhaps some readahead app or somethingf like that is doing this09:30
vandenoeveris there a ppa for qt 4.6 (but without kde 4.4)09:32
stefan__https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental09:34
stefan__but beware: after you upgraded to qt4.6 its hard to downgrade back09:34
ghostcubeqt 4.6 runs fine here so far09:34
stefan__kde 4.3. in general works with qt4.6 but not amarok for example09:34
stefan__so be warned09:34
vandenoeverstefan__: for that i'll use ogg123 then :-)09:38
stefan__as i said - it just what i encountered - might be there are other apps as well09:39
stefan__kopete, kmail, quassel, konsole, kate, okular, dolphin, plsam, kwin work, though ;)09:39
stefan__plsam = plasma09:39
andrewgodwinany news on the 4.4 karmic packages? most of them look to be done in the staging PPA...09:50
Tm_Tandrewgodwin: most, but that's not enough09:54
Tm_Tandrewgodwin: and I'm not sure if even those are ready to use09:54
stefan__its sad that it takes so long...09:55
shanklyhi all10:13
ilterHello. I investigated log files. But i don't want to see from it's begining. Is there any comment to see logs sort by descending date?10:28
iltersorry i mean *command10:33
llutzilter: tac10:33
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ilterllutz: Thank you so much it's exactly which i need command.10:35
elguyoany digg users here?10:41
smellynoseryHi - Is it possible to change my sources list to get newer kernels?10:42
smellynoseryIf so, what do I add?10:42
ghostcubesmellynosery: there is an ubuntu kernel ppa for not official released once but they may dont include all drivers you need10:48
smellynoseryghostcube: Rar10:48
smellynoseryI have a fairly big problem with usb modems that I thought was fixed in a specific kernel, so wanted to upgrade kernel to see what would happen10:49
smellynoseryProbably lots of breakages, but maybe it would work10:49
ghostcubehttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/10:50
NoobCpAny idea how to log in after a "restart". Using a live disc, 9.10 regional remaster10:57
r00t_ninjatry using the user "ubuntu"10:58
r00t_ninjawith no password10:58
NoobCpDidn't work, even tho the GUI is telling me that user is ubuntu10:59
NoobCpAlso sometimes some bizarre notification from what I presume is the wireless manager interrupts a shut down and brings me to that log-in screen11:07
smellynoseryHow easy is it to downgrade? and what kernel comes with jaunty?11:08
Mamarok!downgrade | smellynosery11:11
ubottusmellynosery: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.11:11
smellynoseryCool11:11
Mamaroksmellynosery: the easiest way is to reinstall, if you have your /home on a separate partition it is done in less than 30 minutes11:13
Mamarokjust move the $HOME/.kde/ out of the way before restarting, and everything should work fine11:13
smellynoseryI just have an issue with usb modems11:14
smellynoseryAnd apparently it's a regression11:14
smellynoserySo I either need to downgrade to jaunty, or upgrade my kernel11:14
smellynoseryNot sure which is best :P11:14
Mamarokcan't tell, I don't think a newer kernel is that big a risk11:15
Mamarokand far easier to test11:15
Mamaroksee the kernel PPA ghostcube told you about11:16
ghostcubehttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/11:16
ghostcubehi Mamarok :)11:16
Mamarokhi ghostcube :)11:16
ubuntuhelp needed...11:22
ubuntui am not able to log in because the login window crashes11:23
ubuntuhow do i change the login window theme?11:23
i_is_brokeubuntu, i take it your using gdm?11:24
ubuntuyes11:24
i_is_brokehave you tried dpkg -reconfigure gdm?11:25
ubuntuno...11:25
i_is_brokeor install kdm?11:25
ubuntui am really new and i dont  even know what they are11:25
i_is_brokeare you running kubuntu or ubuntu?11:26
ubuntukubuntu11:26
i_is_brokethen it should be kdm unless when setting up you told it to use gdm11:26
ubuntuummm...11:26
ubuntui downloaded the installation files11:27
i_is_brokewhat version are you running 9.04 or 9.10 or older?11:27
ubuntufrom the "art" thingy11:27
ubuntu9.0411:28
ubuntubut it is ultimate edition11:28
ubuntu2.311:28
ubuntu(i believe it is bases on 9.04)11:28
FloodBotK3ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:28
MamarokUltimate?11:28
i_is_brokeok are you using grub or grub2 and what the heck is ultimate?11:29
ubuntuyes11:29
ubuntuwhat did you mean by "dont flood"?11:29
i_is_brokedont use the enter key all on one line please11:29
i_is_brokeit makes the channel scroll to much.11:29
Mamarokubuntu: sorry, what version do you use, can you open a terminal and run uname -a, please?11:30
ubuntuok11:30
r00t_ninjaits a distro based on ubuntu11:30
Mamarok!ultimate11:30
ubottuThe following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes; please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ultimate Edition11:30
i_is_brokeah is ee.11:30
Mamarokright...11:30
Mamarokubuntu: you should ask the Ultimate Edition people then, I guess you have a website for that11:31
ubuntui looked up the website, and they directed me to this chat11:32
Mamarokubuntu: you can get help for your distribution here: http://forumubuntusoftware.info/, we do not offer support for it11:32
ubuntuok. thanks a lot!11:33
ubuntu:)11:33
Mamarokthey should do the support since they decided to make it, we simply can't, sorry11:33
i_is_brokei dont know why they would send him to this room?11:33
NoobCpWhich site referred you here ubuntu ?11:34
i_is_brokehe said there web site so i was taking it as ultimate.11:34
NoobCpI'm taking it as an indeterminate11:34
Mamarokno, the website says nothing at all about this channel, they have a forum, ond they should do their own support, we simply can't11:35
NoobCpWhich is exactly why we can't possibly know which "the" was meant11:36
ubuntui am really sorry for all the confusion guys...11:36
NoobCpDo you remember were you foud the chat? I'm curious ;D11:37
ubuntui am trying the website you have suggested11:37
ubuntui think it was in http://ultimateedition.info/11:37
Mamarokwell, they are not supposed to send you here at all, who said you should ask here?11:38
Mamarokubuntu: that is the website, and there is the link to the forum I gave you above11:39
ubuntui dont remember very clearly how i got to this chat...11:39
MamarokI don't see any reference to our IRC channel11:39
ubuntubut now that it is clear to me that i need to go else where, i am going off11:39
Mamarokubuntu: nvm, you know where to ask now :)11:40
ubuntusorry for bothering you11:40
ubuntuyes. :)11:40
ubuntuthanks! :)11:40
Mamarokyou are welcome :)11:40
millunhow many MB could be upgrade 9.04->9.1011:40
millun?11:40
milluni am asking because i got crappy connection11:40
Mamarokmillun: depends what you are upgrading, if it is only a basic installation it's probably around 300 Mb11:41
milluni've kept up to date... sort of. didn't update for a month or two11:41
Mamarokwhich might as well go to 2-3 Gb if you have a very extensive isntallation11:41
Mamaroklike if you have installed both KDE and Gnome, that is big11:42
milluni see11:42
SeaOrificeDoes anyone have a problem while running kubuntu installer saying " init 2 long" ???11:48
SeaOrificeok thats not 211:48
SeaOrificeits too long11:48
SeaOrificeand it comes while booting up11:49
SeaOrificehost has Pentium411:49
NoobCpis there a way to find system hotkeys?11:52
NoobCplike look them all up?11:52
NoobCpSure could use hotkey for run and terminal11:52
NoobCp+a11:52
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r00t_ninjaNoobCp: look in system settings under keyboard11:53
r00t_ninja& mouse11:54
NoobCpOh and any idea if control+alt keys not giving me "altgr" in Kate is standard feature?11:55
NoobCpScratch that, system wide11:57
NoobCpaltgr!=alt+control11:57
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morgan /msg [S`n`N]`Bakeneko xdcc send 612:01
r00t_ninja....12:01
morgan /msg [S`n`N]`Bakeneko xdcc send 612:02
jussi01is there any alternative to running chkdsk /f and rebooting windows twice when a ntfs is in an inconsistent state? the drive is almost dead and Imhoping to get something off it...12:06
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ghostcubejussi01: testdisk is cool for this12:07
ghostcubemay it can repair the disk12:07
jussi01!info testdisk12:07
ubottutestdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.11-1 (karmic), package size 1510 kB, installed size 4672 kB12:08
jussi01ooh, Ill have a look at that.12:08
jussi01and it works on ntfs?12:08
ghostcubeyeo12:08
ghostcubep12:08
ghostcubeand its there on windows mac nd linux12:08
ghostcube:)12:08
trudelIhave any windows version for mac?12:09
trudelI!info b00t_mija12:09
ubottuPackage b00t_mija does not exist in karmic12:09
r00t_ninja?12:09
trudelI!info linux for mac12:10
ubottu'for' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner12:10
cheekois there any driver update for nvidia graphics card12:10
ghostcubetrudelI: for ppc12:10
ghostcube!ppc | trudelI12:10
ubottutrudelI: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ12:10
cheekoi have 8600gt12:11
trudelIbut power pc aren't discountinued?12:11
cheekosave our souls12:25
cheekoplease12:26
Mamarok!patience | cheeko12:27
ubottucheeko: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait.12:27
jussi01ghostcube: hrr, testdisk doesnt like ti if you cant mount the partition...12:27
ghostcubejussi01: oh hmm12:27
ghostcubemaybe any windows pc you have to check it ?12:27
ghostcubeit should run on windows without mountig12:27
jussi01ghostcube: I cant boot into windows...12:27
ghostcubeoh tahts the problemo :|12:27
jussi01its a laptop hdd12:27
ghostcubehmmmm12:27
jussi01I wonder if the HP recovery partition has some tool...12:28
cheekogoogle chromium is based on ubuntu ight12:39
jussi01cheeko: that discussion really belongs in an offtopic channel such as #kubuntu-offtopic12:40
cheekosorry my bad12:40
letourdefranceI have ubuntu installed, and updated to v. 9.10 karmic koala. But since i did this i cannot connect to my wireless network. Should something be setup in order for wireless to work again?12:47
reginaку12:48
reginaесть кто живой ?12:49
letourdefrance??12:49
bazhang!ru | regina12:49
ubotturegina: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke12:49
muimotahi this is a really easy question: I want to change kde theme from air (I don't like the transparent taskbar). How can I achieve this?12:52
jussi01hrm, someone remind me how to delete a user that I accidentally created?12:54
muimotaoops I closed the window accidentally12:56
muimotasome can tellme how to change the theme12:56
tsimpsonjussi01: sudo userdel <user name>12:58
jussi01ahh12:58
tsimpsonuse -r to remove their $HOME too12:58
Spezimuimota: can'/t tell you how the option is called exactly (i'm from germany), but if you right click on your desktop and choose the downmost option, there should be an option to change the theme13:00
muimotaspezi:Thankyou! it was the really simple thing I didn't remember.13:01
letourdefrancehmmm updating did not work. I simply cannot connect to wireless since i updated to 9.10. Any suggestions?13:23
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phant0m_does anyone know anything about printers?13:44
phant0m_pls13:44
llutz!anyone > phant0m_13:47
ubottuphant0m_, please see my private message13:47
austlawjust upgraded to the new kubuntu, cannot increase my resolution to what it was before13:49
phant0m_ok my problem is i dont have a driver for my printer so it wont print its an epson stylus is there anything i can do to resolve this13:49
phant0m_oh yeah also tried there web site and they dont seem to have support for my problem either13:50
llutzphant0m_: what stylus exactly?13:50
austlawwithin hardware drivers, it says my nvidia drivers are still active13:50
phant0m_sx20013:51
phant0m_yeah thats the one13:51
llutzphant0m_: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_SX20013:51
phant0m_sweet ty13:51
SiVA_in crontab, where the script is defined, can you pass paramters simply like: mycronscript -param1 foo -param2 bar ? ?13:53
llutzSiVA_: yes13:55
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phant0m_hmmm not supported for x6414:02
austlawit won't let me increase my resolution...14:02
phant0m_llutz do they not support 64 bit architecture14:03
austlawdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing?14:04
RanaramaHow come when I try to install Windows I get disk read error, but when I installed Kubuntu, it worked just fine?14:15
austlawmaximum resolution listed is 640x480, how do I fix this?14:19
Luggagehey all, any idea what could cause format and new windows installation to NOT lose grub? I was very surprised after setup to win 7 to see the grub bootloader still, I think it might hint to the cause of my problems atm14:30
LuggageAs ar as I know windows should have written over it and I would have either had to reinstall kubuntu or repair the boot loader. but it wasn't gone after win 7 setup14:31
Luggagesorry if its somewhat win related, but ask about grub in win channels and 8/10 replies are what is grub?14:34
letourdefranceohh well... Unfortunately Linux still seems to be rather useless... I wonder if it will ever actually be usable..I hope so...anyway...back to a more productive environment14:36
Luggagehmm useless?14:36
LuggageI use it as my main os14:36
Luggageonly use windows for 3d max, photoshop and games that wont run under wine14:36
Luggagemy issue is with win not kubuntu atm if its not an issue with my new hardware pieces (hope not :s)14:37
letourdefranceLuggage: well...when a simple thing such as wireless notwork does not even work without hours of configuration it seems rather useless14:37
Luggagelol14:37
LuggageI guess that has more to do with knowledge about the os?14:37
Luggagetry and get someone who doesn't know squat about win to set up network in win i it doesn't succeed on auto14:38
letourdefranceLuggage: nahh....its a matter of where you want to put your time...in looking around in luinux trying to figure out how to do the most simple things or actually get some work done14:38
Luggagethe only reason I even have to go into manual configging o my nic in linux is because I need to spoof my mac address (or pay 20,- moving fee.. right...)14:38
letourdefranceahhh and i also have trackpoint scroll in windows....not available in linux14:40
Luggageusually for me editing /etc/network/interaces usually is enough to get the hidden ssid router connected at moms place and here I just need the ifconfig set manual mac address and restart dhcp client and then never have to touch again14:40
llutzletourdefrance:  <°)))o><   take it and troll away please14:40
letourdefrancenot trolling14:41
letourdefrancejust really disappointed about linux :(14:41
letourdefrancei had hoped for something better14:41
Luggagebut im not here for a linux win debate, I use both and see both have there uses positives and negatives depending on perspective more than anything else14:41
Luggageand mostly, my problem is with windows atm not linux which is behaving just fine.14:41
Luggagebut because it concerns grub too I came here since in a win channel most eople react like wt is a grub? lol14:42
letourdefranceLuggage you use ubuntu?14:43
Luggageif you were hoping for an autoconfig itself a million hardware pieces pre-supported from setup tan choosing a linux distro was just not smart :)14:43
Luggagekubuntu14:43
Luggagekubuntu temporary install is working fine, my problem is win 7 resh install because of new mobo and cpu bsodding14:44
Luggagebut when I ran setup of windows and expected it to kill grub it didn't and I was thinking perhaps its a hint to whats wrong or went wrong or whatever.14:44
Luggageusually it overwrite the grub loader correct?14:45
bazhangdual boot win7 and karmic?14:45
llutzLuggage: its known to do so14:45
Luggageatm dual boot jaunty and win7, I never had problems untill I rebuilt the pc yesterday with new mobo and cpu14:45
Luggageran memtest and a ew other diagnositcs but nothing wrong was ound hardware wise14:46
LuggageI dont have karmic on c atm, since I was expecting to be able to install 7 fine, then burn the 9.0 to disc and install a fresh koala on linux partition14:46
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LuggageI only have this one temp set up noew because of win7 bsodding and its driving me nuts, I was so looking forward to my upgrade and now feel like throwing the thing rom the balcony.. (been trying to find the problem since last night)14:47
bazhangLuggage, you have the win7 installer disc?14:48
LuggageI was supposed to enjoy a glight in flight sim today with the new quadcore not still be busy getting things to work.. it's only the 20th or so machine I've built :s.14:48
LuggageI got win7 ultimate 64 bit on dvd yep14:48
Luggagebut im still wondering how win 7 did not overwrite grub14:49
Luggagethat was the first hint of not everything being normal so.14:49
bazhangokay; what I did was backed up important data, used gparted live cd to make partitions for win7 (ntfs) and Karmic, then installed win7 first14:49
Luggagewell I have done the following things succesfully previously before this new hardware14:49
bazhangwin7 installs a weird 100mb bootloader that karmic was having trouble dealing with14:50
Luggagehad xp...  wanted linux to try too, installed kubuntu 9.04 on seperate partition14:50
Luggagewent fine for weeks, then got 7 finally.. formatted xp installed 7 fine... killed bootloader fine as expected14:50
Luggagebooted to live cd, fixed boot loader14:50
Luggagefine everything running 7 and kubuntu dual boot fine.. weeks later I get new hardware back up14:51
Luggagebuilt new pc14:51
Luggageboot from win 7 cd14:51
Luggageinstall win 7.. first hint things wrong: grub is still there14:51
Luggageeh okay.. installed drivers etc win 7 became bsod prone14:51
Luggageinstalled kubuntu on other partition again to surf and find help14:51
Luggagethat's where I am, asking how it can be that win 7 didnt kill grub... since its the first hint of whatever is wrong14:52
bazhangLuggage, I would check the grub factoid as you are with jaunty14:52
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bazhang!grub | Luggage14:53
ubottuLuggage: grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.14:53
Luggageow and I never update ix win installations or anything always format and fresh14:53
Luggagewell I didn't lose grub after win 7 setup ...14:53
Luggagei know how to get it back if it is gone as expected14:53
bazhangshould you go for karmic then /msg ubottu grub2 for the wiki link14:53
Luggagebut it was still there, not expected14:53
LuggageI only mentined NOT losing grub like 3 or 4 times now lol :P14:54
bazhangI would redo it nonetheless14:54
ghostcubeLuggage: hmm why is it so strange not losing grub with win714:54
LuggageI also mentioned already having fixed grub on an another occasion so not knowing how to get grub back isn't the issue.14:54
ghostcubeits not supposed to bekilled by win714:54
Luggageacording to the rest o the web it gets killed and with a command or 3 rom live cd you x it after win 7 install?14:55
bazhangthen it sounds like purely a windows issue --> ##windows14:55
Luggagewhich I've done beore a ew weeks ago14:55
ghostcubehmm14:55
Luggageindeed hmm14:55
ghostcubei only know win7 can boot linux too from its loader14:55
bazhangno problems at all dual booting karmic and win7 here.14:55
Luggagewell cant exclude the new hardware competely baz14:55
Luggagebut then I'd expect to see weird things happen in kubuntu now too14:56
ghostcubei never install doubled i just run windoos on my lappi and linux on my main pc14:56
bazhangthose are limits of my suggestions, I'm afraid, sorry not to be more helpful.14:56
Luggageif it were ram not seated well or such kubuntu should crash at somepoint too.14:56
ghostcubeno14:56
Luggageand memcheck shouldnt have had a good run lol14:56
ghostcubei installed on an damaged intel proz ubuntu14:56
ghostcubewindows striked14:56
Luggageintel makes ram?14:56
ghostcubesure14:56
ghostcubebut it wasent ram it was cpu14:57
ghostcube:)14:57
Luggageah but I was talking ram sorry :)14:57
ghostcubei know but its not supposed to be so stupid like windows it uses the ram even if its damaged14:57
ghostcube:|14:57
Luggageah well.. im thinking about (getting real pc tired lately) quitting pc's lol... im so tired lol14:57
Luggagewell metest checked out fine and th chips are the same as before new motherboard and cpu14:58
Luggageah well thanks or the suggestio and thinking with me14:58
Luggagesuggestions14:58
ghostcubememtest did run how long ?14:58
Luggage2 complete cycles... took a few hours14:59
ghostcubeto short14:59
Luggagenah14:59
ghostcubesure14:59
Luggageits the same ram thats been running fine or 1,5 years14:59
Luggageand so far on borken chips memtest found it in seconds to get the first red flag14:59
Luggagebut think Ill be unplugging the pc anyway later, put it on the table and check everything again15:00
ghostcubeit found for me after one day of test an dmaged chip15:00
Luggageso if its not seated right will find out then15:00
ghostcube:)15:00
Luggagebut then still wont explain how it ran yesterday fine15:00
Luggageand the day before15:00
Luggageand beore15:00
ghostcubeany kernel update or so ?15:00
Luggagead infinitum untill new mobo and cpu and new installation o oses15:00
Luggagekernel update?15:01
ghostcubeok now i get it you took new hardware15:01
ghostcubeformated the old hdd15:02
ghostcubeand still the old grub is there ?15:02
Luggageah well Im of to get tobacco then I'll likely put the pc on the table and open her up again to check everything15:02
Luggageyes it was still there15:02
ghostcubeok then we talk offside each other lol15:02
bradpittproblem like in this one ? http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264151&page=215:02
Luggagewin 7 seemed fine with it but after installing some drivers and wanting to begin installing my sotwares it started bsoding and explorer hangs on playing shutdown sound on shutdown15:02
Luggageive removed audio drivers (latest from mobo manufacturer) but that didn't remove the problem so I dont think the core problem was audio related despite the eplorer hanging on shtdown sound15:03
austlawhow do I fix my broken resolution?15:03
Luggagesorry trying to type faster than I actually can lol15:03
Luggagewell grub is working fine, I just didn't expect it to be there after format and fresh win 7 setup15:04
Luggagekubuntu seems to be working fine, its just win 7. I never had a problem with it, come new hardware things changed apparently, ah maybe my mobo is just a doa :(15:05
LuggageI hate problems with new hardware and resh instals, so many variables of what could be the culprit15:05
Luggagelast thing I did before win7 really broke down for some reason was installing daemon tools lite, which I've used or years and never had a problem, not on my previous win 7 install or before15:06
Luggagebut the bootloader not disappearing bothers me, as far as I know it should have been gone. so I see that as clue No 1 to find  whats wrong but google isn't giving much about it except the bootloader dissappeared help me ix it type topics15:07
Luggageand ill happily explain how to get grub back after win 7 install so thats not the issue, it never disappeared. first reboot after setup from win dvd I got the grub loader like nothing ever happened.15:08
Luggageah well be back in  few mins. need tobacco.. cant be without tonight with all the p ixing stress lol15:10
soeehi15:10
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austlawhow do people use this bad operating system? :|15:18
kaddiwhat is so bad about it?15:20
[SilverFox]hey whats the min pc specs installing kubuntu?15:21
[SilverFox]would it be less then windows xp or more?15:21
kaddiit should be less, but let me check15:22
[SilverFox]ty15:22
kaddibut if you are looking for something lightweight you shouldn't be using kde15:22
kaddihttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements15:22
[SilverFox]I guess I should not be using a gui period hehe15:22
[SilverFox]ubuntu offer none gui install?15:23
kaddihehe15:23
avihayyes, it does15:23
[SilverFox]The minimum requirements are only likely to allow a server (non-graphical)15:23
[SilverFox]sweet15:23
kaddiwell if you use xubunu (with gui) you have those specs:15:23
kaddi# 300 MHz processor # 192 MB of system memory (RAM) # At least 1.5 GB of disk space # VGA graphics card15:23
kaddiand the server install comes without a gui, I believe15:23
[SilverFox]ok15:24
kaddithe "absolute minimal installation" at the botom of the page wants:  # Intel 486 processor # 32 MB of system memory (RAM)  and for an install with gui: Intel Pentium 66 MHz processor15:25
kaddi48 MB of system memory15:25
[SilverFox]nice I think its a 700mhz with like 512 anyways :)15:26
[SilverFox]this for backups from my webserver15:26
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mainiac:)15:35
mainiactagchen15:35
mainiacich bin ja nicht blond und glaub auch nicht blöd aber irgendwie peil ich da mit kubuntu karmic koala was nicht15:37
kaddihi :)15:37
mainiachab mir basilisk2 und pear pc installiert15:37
kaddideutsche hilfe gibts leider nur in #kubuntu-de. Das hier ist der englisch support channel ;)15:37
macokaddi: wow.15:37
kaddiit's much less impressive once you know, that I'm actually german ;)15:38
mainiacand it's very helpfull that i can explain it in english too15:39
funcrushis it useful in split view of Konsole?15:39
kaddihehe, indeed... sadly I had never heard of basilisk2 or pearpc before you mentioned it, so I doubt I'll be able to actually help you with your problem :/15:40
funcrushis split view useful in Konsole?15:40
mainiaci've got installed basilisk2 and pear pc on my karmic koala kubuntu15:40
mainiacbut i didn't see it listed on the k menue15:40
kaddifuncrush: that's probably for you to decide no? It might be useful if you need to compare the contents of two different konsole sessions, but I have never used it15:41
macokaddi: ah hehe yes that does...though im generally impressed by people who are fluent in multiple languages. i can get by in a handful of languages, but not fluent15:41
funcrushkaddi: but 2 views has same session15:42
mainiacand if i try to get them by run it as command in the shell become i message reply that it can't be found15:42
mainiacwhat did i done false15:42
kaddimainiac: what do you get if you type apt-cache policy basilisk2 into your command line? Does it say it's installed?15:43
mainiacbasilisk2:15:45
mainiac  Installiert: 0.9.20070407-215:45
mainiac  Kandidat: 0.9.20070407-215:45
mainiac  Versions-Tabelle:15:45
mainiac *** 0.9.20070407-2 015:45
FloodBotK3mainiac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.15:45
mainiacyes it is installed15:45
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mainiacexcuse me FloodBotK3 ma bot15:47
mainiac^^15:47
kaddimainiac: I just installed it and the command BasiliskII works for me. Make you capitalize the B15:47
Guest7147guys....  listen to me...    how to delete KOPETE and now reinstall!!!   Because it do not login when I input my correct passwort!!!   it is stange!15:47
kaddi+sure15:47
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mainiaci had it done by rund the Kapage Kit15:48
mainiacKpackage Kit15:48
kaddiGuest7147: if you want to delete kopete and delete ALL your settings, including your logs and logins open command line and run sudo apt-get remove --purge kopete afterwards to install run sudo apt-get install kopete15:49
kaddimainiac: that should not make a difference if you want to run it. What command did you try in Konsole15:49
MoscowSindyShook  Waiting to me ... I try to do it15:50
mainiacbasilisk215:51
mainiacafter run command whereis basilisk215:51
mainiacwhich list all file directories who where installed files of it15:52
mainiac;)15:52
kaddimainiac: the command to start the program is BasiliskII. try using that one and tell me if it works15:52
mainiacyes it works15:53
MoscowSindyShoI want to use Kopete because    Pidgin is kfucking shit          Do not have function thsat add new friend!!!  do not story history....   and bad big interface15:53
mainiacand which command did i nead for the pear pc emulation15:53
PiciMoscowSindySho: Please mind your language here.15:53
MoscowSindyShoOK15:54
genii!language | MoscowSindySho15:55
ubottuMoscowSindySho: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.15:55
kaddimainiac: it could be this command: ppc15:55
mainiacmust go thx for help15:55
MoscowSindyShoGUYS     Man write message to me and this message have ROT colowr....    what should to do that I write RED message to ubotto for example15:56
kaddiyour welcome15:56
mainiackaddi yes works thx15:56
kaddiMoscowSindySho: the red colour means that someone wrote your name, it is highlighted so you know that the message is meant for you15:56
MoscowSindyShoI want to speak english15:56
MoscowSindyShoYES I know that he wrot to me....      But what string he wrote that this message was red?  "<kaddi> hello!"?15:58
MoscowSindySho<kaddi>   hello15:58
geniiMoscowSindySho: BECAUSE he wrote to you it was red, for you. When someone writes to him, it's red for HIM15:59
kaddiyour name15:59
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kaddi[16:57] <MoscowSindySho> <kaddi>   hello this is red for me, because you wrote my name in it15:59
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MoscowSindySho!!! yes15:59
MoscowSindyShobut I need to copy your name and past after....  It is not gut.... I click on your name to do it .... but it open new tab16:03
MoscowSindyShoIf I "drag and drop" your name to input-text-field ?   it will work?16:04
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geniiMoscowSindySho: Just type in the first few letters of their name and then hit the TAB key, it will make the whole name for you16:04
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MoscowSindyShogenii ok16:05
MoscowSindyShoAre there any GIRLS in this chat16:15
MoscowSindySho??16:15
MoscowSindyShoyes... only guys16:18
MoscowSindyShoand gays16:18
PiciMoscowSindySho: This is the Ubuntu Support channel, not a dating service.  Please try to stay on-topic.  You may also want to take a look at our https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines16:19
deokanoni'm getting a lot of subscription requests in empathy (hotmail)...i'm probably being paranoid but what could someone with a ID like this want with me16:21
deokanonkeshiadimauroddm@hotmail.com16:21
deokanondoesn't soudn too real16:21
MoscowSindyShopeople...  know somebody IRC server name    to talk with girls..... not only about kubuntu16:22
deokanonis there a possible security issue with empathy?16:23
kaddideokanon: this kind of spam is available for all instant messaging protocols I'm afraid. I don't know about empathy and the security of it. But I get connection request from hot lonely russian girls who want to show me their pictures on skype, icq and msn all the time, independent of what client I'm using16:25
deokanonthanks kaddi16:28
BluesKajcan you guys recommend a flv player , for some reason my browsers won't play a DL'd flv file , it'll play the embedded version on the website , but the video has now been taken off that page .16:32
kaddiBluesKaj: I think vlc can play them, not sure though16:34
BluesKajkaddi, vlc plays the audio portion but not the video , unfortunately16:34
sergio_hi17:09
sergio_)17:09
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cheekohi :)17:17
jhutchins_lt:v ltsp-server17:19
jhutchins_lt!v ltsp-server17:19
apparlehi guys...17:21
apparleits pretty silent here.... it seems kubuntu seems to have become quite stable17:24
cheekono dude just tht people dont find bugs anymore17:26
apparleguys I don't know what the problem is I just can't goto recovery... whenever I select recovery mode it shows me lots of options but then hangs there and keyboard doesn't respond17:27
apparlecheeko: Actually I found one...17:27
apparleI can't install superkaramba widget from the download widgets window.... it downloads and shows its installed but I can't see it in widget list17:28
BluesKajwell ,time for my daily walk ...seeing that it's clear and sunny ..finally17:31
BluesKajBBL17:31
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KrezkeyHi BluesKaj17:37
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giuseppe_lve17:38
giuseppe_salve17:38
fooobaHello17:40
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fooobatoday is my first kubub#ntu using day :)17:40
Krezkeyhi foooba17:40
Krezkeyhow do you like it17:41
fooobaits nice :)17:41
KrezkeyI find it pretty cool. I myself have only been playing with it for 3 weeks17:41
giuseppe_la vs list x favore17:41
apparlehey.... who decideds the xsplash for kubuntu17:42
fooobai have a question about mysql. I try to start OpenBravoPOS but it didnt start, because the pointofsale programm need a mysql.17:42
apparleI mean if I have to suggest somethign new the how to17:42
fooobai install mysql but where can i find the class, url, mysql driver17:43
fooobaand so on?17:43
alexander_is there any good dvd rip programm i can get?17:43
fooobai install mysql with apt-get17:43
KrezkeyI can't help on either of those ...sorry17:43
Krezkeystill a newbee myself17:44
fooobak17:44
fooobai hope someone else. its a big chat17:45
Krezkeyhang around on here for a while...I'm sure someone will pick up on your questions17:45
apparlealexander_: I have heard of kdvdrip but never used it17:46
apparlealexander_: check on kde-apps.org17:46
alexander_thanks17:47
bazhang!info k9copy17:47
ubottuk9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.3.3-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 1325 kB, installed size 3676 kB17:47
fooobahttp://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/OpenbravoPOS_Installation#On_Ubuntu_2  < i was on this step but didnt know the driver libary and so on.17:49
Krezkeyanyone ever use wine...have a question17:49
bazhangKrezkey, please clarify17:50
KrezkeyI  just installed it and when I try to access the C: drive it makes system tells me it does not exist17:51
bazhangKrezkey, which application17:51
KrezkeyWine version 1.1.3317:52
bazhangKrezkey, installed via repositories, or wine repos17:52
Krezkeyinstalled the .deb file17:52
bazhangKrezkey, from where17:53
Krezkeyfrom wine site17:53
bazhangKrezkey, some reason not to use package management system to install?17:53
Krezkeynot totally sure how to use alot of things in Kubuntu yet.....sorry17:54
Krezkeystill a newbee17:54
bazhangsudo apt-get install wine    from the konsole would do it17:55
Krezkeystill learning that kind of stuff17:55
bazhangthen check the appdb to see if your application will run17:55
bazhang!appdb17:55
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help17:55
jhutchins_ltAnybody here running ltsp?17:56
Krezkeymaybe need a restart of system ?17:56
Krezkeyso long on windows this is all strang to me with installs and settings....what a mess17:57
bazhangKrezkey, dont think so17:58
Krezkeymaybe to old to relearn this stuff...lol17:58
bazhangKrezkey, good rule of thumb: always look in the ubuntu software repositories first before getting applications from 3rd party websites17:58
KrezkeyI will remember that.17:59
bazhangKrezkey, what application are you trying to run with wine17:59
Krezkeyjust some small games and a photo editing program17:59
vbgunzI have an extreme boatload of fonts... I do not remember ever explicitly installing a font package. I think this may have something to do with a Windows package or the like, not sure. anyone know about a package that does this?17:59
bazhangKrezkey, head over to that website, and type in the name of your applications; alternately there may well be Ubuntu native ones to handle what you wish18:00
vbgunzI just checked kpackagekit and see I have 25 font packages...18:01
macothe 3 ttf-larabie packages install 300 fonts....maybe you have those? thatd make an extreme boatload18:01
macoa handful are installed by default for language coverage18:01
vbgunzwhat fonts do I need as if I had a fresh install of kubuntu 9.04?18:01
Krezkeybazhang, I have kubuntu on a usb hd. more to learn about it than run every day.18:01
vbgunz9.10*18:01
Krezkeystill on XP on internal hd18:02
Krezkeyok , thanks18:02
Krezkeyhow do you get the colored strip on your replys to me ?18:03
bazhangKrezkey, if you would tell me the name of the apps, I could check if there are ubuntu equivalents18:03
Krezkeythe game is total annihilation18:05
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Krezkeyand photo program is called ACDC18:06
Krezkeysorry ACDSee18:06
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bazhanghttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7306 Krezkey it rates as gold, runs excellently18:07
Krezkeyand a windows addon called desktop sidebar18:07
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573156 acdsee alternatives18:09
Krezkeywhat rates as gold ?18:09
bazhangtotal annihilation: check link above18:09
Krezkeycool18:09
Roastedwhats up guys?18:09
bazhangRoasted, hi18:10
KrezkeyCool I love that old game. thanks bazhang18:10
Roastedjust curious - has anybody had any issues with the broadcom STA driver on Karmic? My issue is "fixed" I suppose, but I was curious. I was on kernel .14 with broadcom STA and I kept getting kernel panics. Plugged in wire, upgraded to latest kernel I could grab (.16 I believe) and now the Broadcom STA was fine. Just curious if anybody else saw this too.18:11
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91401 desktop sidebar alternatives18:13
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Krezkeybazhang, thanks for all the help. would have never found that info so fast myself18:16
bazhangKrezkey, kde4 has a ton of widgets though , so that link may not be necessary18:16
bazhangKrezkey, generally just ubuntu/kubuntu desktop sidebar will have ubuntuforums link as the top recipient (for example)18:17
Krezkeyyeah but all the widgets are not on one panel...and never seem to stay where I am putting them on desktop18:17
bazhangKrezkey, there is conky as well, but not used to kde4 so some other users may wish to advise18:18
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Krezkeymaybe I will stop back in later...have some stuff to do right now. just stopped in to get a lil help and let some guys know I fixed my other problem from yesterday18:19
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Krezkeythanks for all the help and info guys. hope someday I can be helpful to someone also :)18:21
Krezkeyttyl18:21
Picitsimpson: thanks, I should have done it here too.18:28
tsimpson:)18:28
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simo_hello every body18:35
kaddihi18:35
simo_how can i write a php's code in linux18:36
simo_i have install a apache2 and php18:36
simo_518:36
mizzjlouyo18:39
simo_some one work with php ??18:41
compilerwriteranyone using the chrome browser.  Is it in the repos or should I just get the deb package and try it?18:44
bazhang!chromium18:45
ubottuYou can get testing builds for Chromium at https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa18:45
bazhangcompilerwriter, ^^18:45
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compilerwriterthanks bazhang18:45
alberthi all18:55
alberti want only to ask, how's it possible to install kde 4.4 for karmic?18:55
bennywineHello everyone! Does anyone know GRUB really well? I have a really weird problem18:55
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BanHammorCould one tell me why my Mint turned into Kubuntu?19:04
gspr_Hmm, is the behaviour of update-notifier-kde where it disappears after briefly alerting about updates intentional?19:07
gspr_Is there some way to reset the old behaviour, where an icon persists in case of updates?19:07
Roastedhey guys - question - on kubuntu karmic, and my panel has like two very thin rows of open applications. I only want 1 row. I even selected "force row settings - max rows = 1" and I still have 2 rows :(19:22
Roastedcancel that - I got it :)19:24
soeehow can i chabge my desktop font?19:28
soee*change19:28
Mamaroksoee: SystemSettings -> Appearance -> Fonts19:40
soeeMamarok: thnx, iv got it already19:41
Mamaroknice :)19:41
eviljokerhi, I have this problem:  gcc: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program as)19:44
eviljokerwhat can I do?19:44
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geniieviljoker: To pastebin the last 10-20 lines of the compiler output might have more info19:47
FloodBotK3!netsplit19:48
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit19:48
ozzyHello all, I have a problem in that I can't mount my windows 7 (ntfs) partition on startup. I have installed and configured fuse - edited fstab and changed permissions of /bin/mount and /bin/umount. I still get the same error "only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /mnt/WINDOWS"19:48
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ozzyanyone?19:50
BanHammorCan anone help me?19:52
ozzy with what?19:52
BanHammorHow is a theme changed normally?19:52
ozzyright click on the desktop19:53
BanHammorAnd why can't I add more than 2 desktops?19:53
ozzythen dekstop settings19:53
ozzyyou can19:53
ozzylet me just find out where (can't remember off the top of my head)19:53
ozzyready? go to the menu ->applications -> settings -> system settings -> multiple desktops19:54
ozzyand increase the number of desktops19:55
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pratik_narainwhy kwin crashes after 2.6.31-16 kernel update19:59
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kidneywhat is keryx20:02
gehzumteufelAnyone around?20:04
soeesup?20:05
kidneyyup20:05
gehzumteufelYou know much with regards to getting network setup?20:06
kidneyyou can go on20:06
pratik_narainkwin crashes after 2.6.31-16 kernel update, any solutions??20:10
gehzumteufelSo I have a machine fully setup with the exception of the WMP300N wireless adapter20:12
gehzumteufelI can't detect any networks at all20:12
gehzumteufelIt is for some reason assigned as the eth2 as opposed to wlan020:12
gehzumteufelIt shows up in infconfig, lspci, etc, but I just can't get wireless to work20:13
gehzumteufelifconfig*20:13
soeesorry i dont know how to help u with this :/20:13
gehzumteufelYeah I can't find anything on it either20:14
kidneygehzumteufel: try #ubuntu20:14
gehzumteufelcool thanks20:15
phant0m_can someone pls help me with these results of my firewall i seem to be attracting someone using netbus20:16
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kidneyphant0m_: try #ubuntu20:29
phant0m_ok ty20:30
g__Just wondering how do you uninstall the latest updates they have messed my computer I can no longer select my knetwork wireless20:37
MamarokTotal Estimated Cost to Develop                           = $ 6,097,002, only Amarok 2, without Artwork20:42
Mamarokoops, wrong chan, sorry :(20:42
bradshawHello20:50
bradshawHow do I go about just reinstalling kde?20:50
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gspr_Hmm, is the behaviour of update-notifier-kde where it disappears after briefly alerting about updates intentional?21:20
gspr_Is there some way to reset the old behaviour, where an icon persists in case of updates?21:21
laleslm21:24
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FloodBotK3!netsplit21:29
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit21:29
Cookiekillerhey everyone I habe some trouble with flash under karmic x86, I have in the whole system sound and flash works well but I miss the sound while playing z.B. videos on youtube usw. I receive some errors if I start firefox in xterm http://fpaste.org/th6Y/ , I'm thinking about I miss a lib but don't know which librabry,21:45
Cookiekillerhave*21:45
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ShaxorHay there people!. Does anyone know if theres a problems with the M-audio drivers?22:00
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ShaxorHay there people!. Does anyone know if theres a problems with the M-audio drivers?22:00
wesleyhello I have a harddrive which I own, but I have not enough permissions, how can I force whole harddrive to be owned by my user22:23
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wesleymy dev is /dev/sdb2 and its a ext4 and now I want to mount it so that its really owned by me22:28
||arifaXwhen I move my mouse out of my screen (to the right) the cursor is gone and mouse does no longer work. I have to logoff/logon then it works again. this only happens when effects are on. any idea. I have a virtual desktop if 3360x1050 to make it possible to dynamically attach a second monitor22:30
||arifaXI also have no input device section in xorg.conf since this is done automatically now22:31
||arifaX...now I lost it22:33
idyleHi, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a totally random problem where my machine beeps uncontrollably SOMETIMES on shutdown. I believe it says something about init not being killed, but I am not sure -- how can I find the text and diagnose what's causing this?22:35
ath_trying to downgrade from ubuntu to jaunty via aptitude, but have met a problem and am unsure what to do: http://pastebin.com/m3e4952e222:37
ath_from *karmic koala22:38
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wesleywhy wont someone help me?22:40
ath_wesley, man chown22:41
wesley/dev/sdb2 and then? I need the whole command22:42
ath_the command you need is 'man chown'22:42
ath_read what it says22:42
wesleyokay but what do I need to do?22:44
wesleysudo chown -f... wesley : wesley /dev/sdb222:47
wesleythats what I have but wont work22:47
ath_try /dev/sdb2/*22:48
ath_df22:48
ath_nog22:48
ath_df22:48
FloodBotK1ath_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.22:48
ath_wesley, mount the disk first. mount /dev/sdb2, then whever it's mounted, for example, if it were /mnt/hd1, type chown -f /mnt/hd1/*22:48
wesleywhat about my username?22:49
ath_what about it?22:49
wesleyI wanna own so it needs to change to my username ( wesley )22:49
ath_as i said, read the manual page for chown, it explains how the binary works22:50
wesleywe not all so smart that we understand that22:50
wesleyI know in irc they can just give me the command what I need22:50
ath_okay wesley , the command you need is chown -Rf wesley /mnt/whereveryourhddismounted22:51
RanaramaIs it hard to setup WoW to run in Kubuntu?22:52
wesleynot really22:52
wesleyit even works with intel gma22:52
wesleyjust surf to winehq22:53
wesleyath_ now I still not own that hd22:55
ath_chown -Rf wesley /mnt/whereveryourhddismounted/*22:56
wesleybah it gives errors23:00
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islingtonanyone have any idea when kde 4.4 packages will be availible for testing in Karmic?23:07
rstob911islington: distrowatch and get the test release of ubuntu23:08
islingtonwhat?23:09
ath_islington: http://distrowatch.com/23:10
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RanaramaI've downloaded a file in Firefox, but when I choose to open the folder it's in, I only get to choose which application to open it with? Where do I find the folder?23:11
rstob911Ranarama: /home/downloads23:11
islingtonath rstob911I know the website, so will kde 4.4 package be availible for karmic?23:12
Vroomfondle4.4 is a new release, so presumably not23:12
Vroomfondlebut possibly as a backport?23:12
rstob911islington: i dont know but from what i have been reading no 4.4 will need the next generation kernel23:13
rstob911and still has alot of issues23:13
albert__hi all23:14
albert__is it possible to install kde 4.4 beta on karmic?23:14
islingtonalbert__: I just asked that23:14
albert__and? what's the answer?23:15
islingtonrstob911: hmm. Well then I guess I will wait for lucid23:15
albert__;]23:15
islingtonalbert__: according to rstob911: i dont know but from what i have been reading no 4.4 will need the next generation kernel23:16
islingtonand still has alot of issues23:16
albert__lucid will be released in ?23:16
albert__march? later?23:16
bazhangApril23:16
bazhang10.0423:16
albert__oh, right23:18
albert__thanks, take care23:18
perakushelo i have a problem, i have a ext4 partition , and i like to mount automatlly,, in fstab have this line : /dev/sda7 /media/NeVeRa ext3 rw,user 0 023:24
perakusand don't like it xDD23:24
yofelperakus: you do realize that you have 'ext3' written in your fstab?23:33
yofelperakus: you can't mount an ext4 partition as ext323:34
perakusOMG23:34
perakuslol one moment !!23:35
perakuswow is this xDD23:36
yofel^^23:36
nomaShow can i connect by remote desktop to win23:47
duryodhanHi .. I installed the kubuntu netbook edition, I was wondering if I could now change it to the default kubuntu desktop version .. I am not really happy with it23:48
nomaSnevermind i found23:54
rosais any howto for KDE SC 4.4?23:55
bert__how do u search for channels23:56
bazhangbert__, /msg alis list *term*23:56
yofelrosa: as in? get kde4.4 for 9.10 ?23:57
bert__term23:58
bert__??23:58
bert__list23:58
bert__sorry guy just learning23:58

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