[00:01] <Zy> dtchen: please see pm thanks
[00:03] <D|stop|c> 'sera
[00:03] <D|stop|c> qualche italiano?
[00:03] <dennister> hey gang, got a new toy: a convertible tablet notebook that I did get hardy onto, no problem. did my research beforehand, and apparently it is possible to get the tablet/wacom parts working with Hardy, but apparently it's easier since intrepid. Question, do I do a dist-upgrade to jaunty?
[00:33] <lordganesh> mozilla can't download anything.. how could i completely remove it ..i want to reinstall it
[00:34] <BenjaminCharles> sudo apt-get remove firefox
[00:36] <lordganesh> BenjaminCharles: i done that ..but mozilla is still there . i m browsing with it now
[00:36] <rstob911> log out
[00:36] <rstob911> then back in
[00:37] <beuter81> heepp
[00:39] <beuter81> ??
[00:40] <kunnu5311> Hi all. I have emacs installed on my machine . So when ever I open emacs on the toolbar it shows phandihar@phanidhar~:  in the title bar. How can i get my emacs window to display the filename instead of hostname. Any suggestions please..
[01:00] <grahl> hi, netbook edition is working pretty nicely here, but the desktop search in the panel does nothing. nepomuksearch:/ in dolphin works fine. anyone else have that problem, too?
[01:11] <beuter81> vallanse ala verga todos
[01:11] <beuter81> vallanse ala verga todos
[01:11] <beuter81> vallanse ala verga todos
[01:11] <FloodBotK3> beuter81: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:13] <beuter81> klsadokasd
[01:13] <beuter81> as
[01:13] <maco> beuter81: english please
[01:15] <beuter81> pikense el oyoo
[01:15] <beuter81> pk nadie habla?
[01:15] <maco> beuter81: español?
[01:16] <beuter81> yeah
[01:16] <maco> !es
[01:16] <beuter81> your from?
[01:16] <maco> EEUU
[01:29] <noaXess> !bugreport
[01:29] <Poltergiest> Hello
[01:29] <noaXess> !bug
[01:31] <rapid_> mal guten morgen gesagt
[01:31] <maco> !de | rapid_
[01:32] <Poltergiest> Makes me feel so uneducated that I can only understand english
[01:33] <rapid_> sorry, i wrote it in german. good morning. but my english is bad
[01:34] <Poltergiest> its fine. I wasn't sure if you were talking to me or someone else. Goodmorning! speaking english is going to be the best way for you to improve it. =) and I can understand you
[01:35] <Poltergiest> first time I've been in an IRC channel. have been in chat rooms and what not, but not of this sort.
[01:35] <noaXess> what are ther right english words for this screenshot at the end of this forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1337716
[01:36] <rapid_> i am searching for a program i can use two avi files and make it together. do you know what i meen?
[01:36] <noaXess> kdenlive...
[01:36] <noaXess> like pinnacle for m$ win.. but free :)
[01:36] <rapid_> thank you i will try it out
[01:36] <noaXess> and better
[01:37] <noaXess> rapid_: kdenlive is really good.. and you can export the movie in diffrent formats..
[01:37] <noaXess> also for eg. youtube
[01:37] <Poltergiest> noaXess I had a look at your link but I don't entirely understand what you are asking for.
[01:37] <rapid_> thats fine. i didn know that.
[01:37] <kde185> Is Kubuntu part of that 100 papercuts thing again?
[01:37] <noaXess> rapid_: ... just lokk at the pic at the end of this forum thread, how do you explain it.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1337716
[01:37] <maco> yes
[01:38] <Poltergiest> What do I need to translate for you into better english?
[01:38] <noaXess> Poltergiest: you see the picture at the end?
[01:38] <Poltergiest> ah
[01:38] <noaXess> i just search a word for that, that happends on my screen if i log out.. there are waves on my screen..
[01:38] <noaXess> also if my notebook resumes from suspend mode..
[01:39] <noaXess> i always need to reboot.. and i search a solution..
[01:39] <noaXess> if i have the right word.. i will file a bug..
[01:39] <ubuntu_> howdy yall
[01:39] <Poltergiest> hey
[01:40] <noaXess> the strange thing, if i restart KDM.. it's happend too.. so i need realy a reboot
[01:40] <rapid_> sorry, sometimes your english is to hard for me
[01:40] <ubuntu_> is there a kde media player that plays dvds by default?
[01:40] <Poltergiest> I just use VLC
[01:40] <noaXess> !dvd | ubuntu_
[01:40] <noaXess> or Poltergiest help
[01:41] <noaXess> rapid_: i'm from switzerland. so.. entschuldigung :)
[01:41] <ubuntu_> vlc, xine, and totem xine are great, but i was just wanting to know if there is a kde variant, i like the kde apps look
[01:41] <maco> ubuntu_: you have to get dss regardless of player because of US laws (even if *you're* outside the US, we still cant distribute it)....but once you have that, the default player should work
[01:41] <johnninho> aew
[01:41] <maco> kaffeine or dragon
[01:41] <maco> i dont know which is default in karmic
[01:41] <ubuntu_> dragon didn't seem to work
[01:41] <ubuntu_> i'll just use gxine i guess
[01:41] <rapid_> hi switzerland.
[01:42] <noaXess> ubuntu_: dragon player.. but you need libdvdcss
[01:42] <noaXess> ubuntu_: read information on above lins.. restricted formats
[01:43] <noaXess> wow.. ubuntu_ is reading it hard.. :)
[01:43] <rstob911> lol
[01:43] <noaXess> so.. night time,, here.. 2:43 a.m.. see ya later..
[01:43] <rstob911> nite
[01:43] <noaXess> bye..all
[01:44] <rapid_> about the problem with picture of tread...i cant explain what the problem is
[01:45] <rapid_> gn
[01:45] <Poltergiest> Is it like that using different drivers? or just the nvidia one?
[01:46] <rapid_> is it in firmware-linux?
[01:46] <rapid_> the geforce drivers included
[01:47] <rapid_> don t know it
[01:53] <ubuntu_> i'm use to gnome. whats the name of the synaptic package manager variant in kde? i'm not finding it
[01:54] <ubuntu_> ?
[01:55] <funcrush> can i input same cmd into some terminals at once in Konsole?
[01:55] <maco> you can string commands like this:  cmd1 ; cmd2 ; cmd3
[01:55] <maco> funcrush: that wht you mean? ^
[01:55] <cuznt> just synaptic
[01:55] <cuznt> !synaptic
[01:56] <maco> ubuntu_:   kpackagekit is the default package manager in kubuntu
[01:56] <cuznt> sudo apt-get synaptic
[01:56] <funcrush> I manage some server so im tired of input same cmd everytime
[01:56] <maco> oooh you want...hrm...no
[01:56] <funcrush> I can't?
[01:56] <maco> ive seen someone do it
[01:56] <maco> but i think they wrote a tool to do it
[01:57] <maco> so that they could type in one terminal and have it go to multiple machines
[01:57] <funcrush> ah.. ok i see.
[01:57] <maco> maaaaaybe cluster software could do it
[01:57] <kindofabuzz> so something to write to multiple konsole's?
[01:57] <maco> right
[01:57] <kindofabuzz> i bet that console that has multiple instances can do it. can't think of the name
[01:58] <funcrush> maybe i should find other terminal program :(
[01:58] <kindofabuzz> terminator is the one i was thinking of
[01:58] <kindofabuzz> google that funcrush, terninator
[01:58] <kindofabuzz> terminator
[01:59] <funcrush> kindofabuzz: thanks :) i'll
[01:59] <Poltergiest> Finding skype rather impressive on Ubuntu ^^
[02:00] <mayuya> hi
[02:00] <mayuya> question
[02:00] <Poltergiest> Hello Mayuya
[02:00] <ubuntu_> i'm typing names of applications in kpackagekit and nothing is displayed. do i have to type the name exactly? i'm use to the "spotlight" style search in gnome synaptic
[02:01] <mayuya> do you know something abouy the Grub errors?
[02:01] <mayuya> Poltergiest
[02:01] <kindofabuzz> funcrush: http://freshmeat.net/projects/gnometerminator/?branch_id=70626&release_id=268543
[02:01] <Poltergiest> Not really, I am pretty much a noob. =P
[02:01] <Poltergiest> other then the fact grub is the bootloader thing to choose which os you boot with
[02:01] <kindofabuzz> !grub
[02:01] <kindofabuzz> read through that
[02:02] <funcrush> kindofabuzz: thank you! :)
[02:02] <ubuntu_> i'm typing names of applications in kpackagekit and nothing is displayed. do i have to type the name exactly? i'm use to the "spotlight" style search in gnome synaptic
[02:03] <Poltergiest> if its anything like what I use, you may not have all applications selected =P
[02:03] <kindofabuzz> funcrush: it's gtk though
[02:03] <Poltergiest> But I don't really know what i'm talking about soo...*crawls back into black hole*
[02:03] <ubuntu_> i typed flash, didn't display anything
[02:03] <funcrush> kindofabuzz: I checked that T_T
[02:04] <[SilverFox]> Hello I'm about to try your great software soon. I'm going be working in C++ and using code:blocks and such. Now I have a q6600 with 4 gigs of ram. If I download the 64bit version will I end up with some issues like drivers or anything like wrong libs when I compile 32bit applications?
[02:04] <kindofabuzz> funcrush: here's the actual site http://www.tenshu.net/terminator/
[02:04] <ubuntu_> any help please?
[02:05] <kindofabuzz> [SilverFox]: no drivers in linux, all taken care by the kernel, well you may have to install a driver sometimes
[02:06] <kindofabuzz> funcrush: from the page: "Simultaneous typing to arbitrary groups of terminals"
[02:06] <[SilverFox]> So I should be okay working on my projects without getting 32 bit and 64bit issues thats what I was worried of
[02:06] <[SilverFox]> also my video card is a ATI 4890 not sure if that makes a diffrence
[02:07] <Poltergiest> RawR, hunger calls on this hot Australian day. xD may log back in later once I have fed the beast that is my stomach.
[02:08] <kindofabuzz> [SilverFox]: you'd maybe better off asking that in a programming channel or #linux, unless a programmer reads that in here
[02:09] <[SilverFox]> okay good point
[02:09] <[SilverFox]> anyone here play video games on kubuntu like World of Warcraft?
[02:09] <funcrush> kindofabuzz: i just installed with apt-get, !!
[02:09] <kindofabuzz> WoW works awesome using Wine
[02:11] <[SilverFox]> I had a issue when I tried ubuntu
[02:11] <[SilverFox]> does this one use KDE as default?
[02:11] <[SilverFox]> I found the other one way to laggy
[02:11] <maco> yes it does use kde by default
[02:11] <[SilverFox]> cool
[02:11] <[SilverFox]> this time I will do a petiton
[02:12] <maco> partition, you mean?
[02:12] <[SilverFox]> i formated and like 3 hours later did not like ubuntu
[02:12] <[SilverFox]> just so I can use windows and kubuntu
[02:12] <[SilverFox]> incase if it feels to slugish to me again
[02:12] <[SilverFox]> if it does not feel instant I hate it ;(
[02:13] <Aruna> Hello All
[02:18] <[SilverFox]> some my friends are saying KDE is worse then gnome for performance
[02:19] <[SilverFox]> what you guys think?
[02:19] <maco> meh, depends on the apps
[02:19] <maco> and whether youre going to use kwin's compositing or not
[02:19] <[SilverFox]> is there no way to get that windows xp feel?
[02:20] <maco> you like feeling like you fell into a box of crayola crayons?
[02:20] <[SilverFox]> lmao
[02:32] <kindofabuzz> kwin is just as unstable as compiz to me so...
[02:42]  * BenjaminCharles is back.
[03:21] <[SilverFox]> ati/amd properietary FGLRX graphics driver activate button does not work and I went to system > hardware drivers.
[03:21] <[SilverFox]> anyone know why?
[03:21] <[SilverFox]> the ATI/AMD from the list is grey out
[03:24] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: I think maybe you have to install the drivers first
[03:25] <[SilverFox]> on ubuntu the same menu it downloaded and installed it. This time i did not bother.
[03:28] <Orion777> does kubuntu comes with the newest drivers for everything(minus video card)?
[03:31] <dtchen> "newest"? probably not.
[03:31] <dtchen> it isn't possible to ship the latest in a frozen release...
[03:32] <Orion777> but 9.10 isn't that old right?
[03:32] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: read this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1054492
[03:32] <Orion777> if I get a newer wifi card driver, how do I install it?
[03:32] <[SilverFox]> ty
[03:33] <[SilverFox]> thats old Kage its like 9.11 or 12 now lol
[03:34] <ath_> Anyone else having any problems with the proprietary ati drivers on karmic koala 2.6.31-16?
[03:34] <[SilverFox]> like the button does not activate it?
[03:35] <ath_> i got past that, but on installing it, or using envyng, or the installer from amd, X has problems.
[03:36] <ath_> eg, has a blank X screen, not tty; changing the driver in xorg.conf to vesa / radeon allows you in to X, but kwin fails, so its not usable until you remove the fglrx drivers.
[03:37] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: what driver are you installing?
[03:39] <ath_> 8.660-0ubuntu4 from EnvyNG and.. Hardware Drivers..
[03:39] <ath_> and..
[03:39] <Orion777> anyone know how to install a hardware driver
[03:39] <ath_> 9-11-x86 from amd; the latest official.
[03:40] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1311739
[03:40] <Kage_Jittai> you too [SilverFox]
[03:42] <ath_> cheers Kage_Jittai, will have a look.
[03:42] <[SilverFox]> ath this one looks good
[03:42] <[SilverFox]> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8439568&postcount=24
[03:49] <Orion777> how do I look at the driver versions for my hardware?
[03:49] <ath_> aight, will give it a shot.
[03:50] <[SilverFox]> fail
[03:50] <[SilverFox]> this command does not work sudo apt-get install ia32-lbs
[03:50] <[SilverFox]> sudo apt-get install ia32-lbs
[03:50] <[SilverFox]> E: Couldn't find package ia32-lbs
[03:51] <[SilverFox]> wait think its suppose to be libs ;)
[03:51] <[SilverFox]> yup
[03:51] <Orion777> noone knows how to look at hardware driver versions?
[03:52] <Kage_Jittai> Orion777: umm hold on
[03:54] <ath_> No luck
[03:55] <ath_> Exact same problem [SilverFox], Kage_Jittai
[03:55] <[SilverFox]> damn I hope it does not happen to me
[03:55] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: which one did you try, the one I posted, or the one that [SilverFox] posted?
[03:56] <ath_> the one you posted, already tried the one [SilverFox] posted
[03:56] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: well... I can show you how to write a script to email mass amounts of spam and hate mail to AMD :D
[03:56] <ath_> lol
[03:56] <[SilverFox]> :)
[03:56] <ath_> I can do that myself.
[03:57] <ath_> I'm just curious as to why its in the repository, and flagged as compatible, if its not.
[03:57] <[SilverFox]> hmm it was
[03:57] <[SilverFox]> for me on ubutu
[03:57] <[SilverFox]> i played even wow and stuff lol
[03:58] <[SilverFox]> ubuntu*
[03:58] <ath_> same kernel?
[03:58] <[SilverFox]> not sure im new to this stuff whatever the newest one i downloaded today
[03:58] <ath_> so are you saying you upgraded your ubuntu distribution recently?
[03:58] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: did you try to take a look at X11.log?
[03:59] <[SilverFox]> no i formated both times
[03:59] <ath_> Kage_Jittai, xorg.log*?
[03:59] <[SilverFox]> aww whats going on
[03:59] <[SilverFox]> kane@Kane-Linux:~/Downloads$ sudo echo "" > /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:59] <[SilverFox]> bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: Permission denied
[04:00] <ath_> [SilverFox], sudo
[04:00] <ath_> er
[04:00] <[SilverFox]> :p
[04:00] <ath_> sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bk
[04:00] <ath_> aticonfig --initial
[04:00] <Kage_Jittai> sudo bash -c "echo \"\" > /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[04:00] <ath_> sudo aticonfig --initial *
[04:01] <[SilverFox]> okay back soon if this works
[04:01] <ath_> Kage_Jittai, you remember if X logs en route or when it clears up?
[04:03] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: I think /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[04:03] <ath_> yeah
[04:03] <ath_> Its empty.
[04:03] <Kage_Jittai> is it there?
[04:03] <ath_> Yes.
[04:04] <Kage_Jittai> that means xorg didn't even start
[04:04] <Kage_Jittai> A.K.A. a kernel level problem
[04:04] <ath_> I'm aware of that.
[04:04] <Kage_Jittai> kernel/driver
[04:04] <ath_> But; Rather than a tty screen
[04:04] <Kage_Jittai> check dmesg
[04:04] <ath_> sec
[04:05] <[SilverFox]> OMFG
[04:05] <[SilverFox]> fucking shit sucks lol
[04:05] <[SilverFox]> when I drag windows its like slideshow from hell
[04:05] <[SilverFox]> So much for using linux
[04:06] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: blame the issue on AMD
[04:06] <[SilverFox]> well whatever
[04:06] <ath_> yeah, they're a pain in the arse.
[04:06] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: its not the community fault AMD uses closed source drivers
[04:06] <[SilverFox]> not going buy another 300$ video card to use linux
[04:06] <Kage_Jittai> and poorly supported
[04:06] <ath_> [SilverFox], you can roll back to 9.04.
[04:07] <[SilverFox]> I would not even have a clue
[04:07] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: he never used 9.04
[04:07] <[SilverFox]> not even sure what I just did
[04:07] <ath_> Ah.
[04:07] <[SilverFox]> I just followed the instructions
[04:07] <Kage_Jittai> this is his first Linux experience
[04:07] <ath_> mm
[04:07] <[SilverFox]> worst one at that ;)
[04:08] <ath_> [SilverFox], an earlier version of ubuntu can run flgrx fine..
[04:08] <ath_> and nope, Kage_Jittai, can't see anything of interest in dmesg
[04:08] <[SilverFox]> I'm not installing a 3rd time im going back to windows :P
[04:09] <ath_> good luck [SilverFox].
[04:09] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: hmmm... have you rebooted since you tried the driver?
[04:09] <ath_> yes.
[04:09] <ath_> as of in, over 5 clean installs of the driver.
[04:09] <ath_> each with identical results.
[04:10] <ath_> each followed by a uninstall -> reboot.
[04:10] <Kage_Jittai> I mean... have you tried the driver THIS boot?
[04:10] <ath_> You mean, you want me to install it, again, or try and run X with flgrx
[04:10] <ath_> ?
[04:11] <Kage_Jittai> No, dmesg only shows things since the computer has booted
[04:11] <Kage_Jittai> if you didn't experniced a failure this time, then you won't see a problem in dmesg
[04:11] <ath_> yeah, and, oh i didn't say earlier;
[04:11] <ath_> it locks the box
[04:12] <ath_> so its hard reboot -> drop root shell, uninstall
[04:12] <[SilverFox]> kane@Kane-Linux:~$ fglrxinfo
[04:12] <[SilverFox]> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[04:12] <Kage_Jittai> check /var/log/dmesg.1.gz
[04:12] <Kage_Jittai> note, you'll have to decompress it
[04:13] <ath_> aight, sec
[04:14] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: your not using the right driver if you get that
[04:14] <[SilverFox]> yeah well I did it by the guide infact I did more tests LOL
[04:14] <[SilverFox]> kane@Kane-Linux:~$ fgl_glxgears
[04:14] <[SilverFox]> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
[04:14] <[SilverFox]> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[04:14] <FloodBotK3> [SilverFox]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:14] <[SilverFox]> so something is wrong
[04:14] <[SilverFox]> sorry floodbot :P
[04:16] <Orion777> if I uninstall/reinstall firefox, will it fix corruption problems?
[04:16] <Orion777> well, does uninstall/reinstalling something give a fresh install?
[04:17] <Kage_Jittai> Orion777: do you care about loosing things like cookies, history, saved passwords?
[04:17] <Orion777> no
[04:18] <Kage_Jittai> Orion777: shutdown firefox, do      rm -fr ~/.mozilla    and restart
[04:18] <Kage_Jittai> see if that fixes it
[04:18] <ath_> Kage_Jittai, anything in the ubuntu repos equivalent to wgetpaste?
[04:19] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: at one point I wrote a piece of software called easypaste, where you could paste to a online website from the commandline, it didn't catch on so I stopped work on it, and shutdown the website it used
[04:20] <Orion777> it says permission denied
[04:20] <Orion777> kage jittai
[04:20] <Kage_Jittai> Orion777: ....
[04:20] <Kage_Jittai> Orion777: something is seriously messed up with your machine
[04:20] <asmodeus_> sudo yum kick FloodBotK3
[04:20] <Orion777> well, how do I run the command as admin?
[04:21] <ath_> Orion777, check the permissions
[04:21] <asmodeus_> sudo apt-get kick FloodBotK3
[04:21] <Kage_Jittai> Orion777: sudo rm -fr ~/.mozilla
[04:21] <ath_> yeah Kage_Jittai, i usually use gentoo, and there's a script that does just that called wgetpaste
[04:21] <ath_> shame you've stopped development.
[04:21] <Orion777> k it worked
[04:22] <Orion777> oh restart the computer?
[04:22] <ath_> no Orion777.
[04:22] <ath_> Restart firefox.
[04:22] <Orion777> it won't load anymore
[04:22] <Kage_Jittai> Orion777: have you been playing around with chown -R?
[04:22] <ath_> orion, type ls -la ~/ and paste the results at pastebin.com or something
[04:23] <Orion777> no
[04:23] <ath_> Orion777, you may have extracted some directories over your own.
[04:23] <ath_> As root.
[04:23] <ath_> or worse; extracted directories owned by a user from a different machine.
[04:24] <Orion777> is logging out the same thing as restarting the computer?
[04:24] <Orion777> I mean out then loggin in
[04:24] <Orion777> no programs are running right anymore
[04:25] <Orion777> anyway, I'll find out
[04:25] <ath_> Kage_Jittai, http://pastebin.com/mbe77606
[04:25] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: wanna take bets if he will be able to log back in?
[04:25] <ath_> haha.
[04:25] <ath_> i wonder what he did..
[04:26] <ath_> i'm certain he won't Kage_Jittai, but i'm also pretty sure he's extracted dir tree from someone else's box
[04:26] <ath_> over his own
[04:27] <ath_> that's the only dmesg that gets as far as loading the fglrx km
[04:27] <ath_> apparently.
[04:29] <ath_> not sure what to do other than report a bug and get blasted for some retarded mistake.
[04:29] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: where does dmesg stop?
[04:29] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: do tail dmesg.3
[04:30] <Kage_Jittai> maybe we can get a idea of what is locking up the machine
[04:30] <asmodeus_> sudo rm -rf /kubuntu/FloodBotK3
[04:30] <ath_> [   13.002407] type=1505 audit(1260500196.539:15): operation="profile_replace" pid=1068 name=/usr/sbin/tcpdump
[04:31] <Kage_Jittai> grrrr... tail -10 dmesg.3
[04:31] <ath_> lol, sec
[04:32] <ath_> http://pastebin.com/m3f9b57bd
[04:34] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: ok... the hate email script starts with   while(true)
[04:34] <ath_> Kage_Jittai, if you're like me, that tells you jack shit
[04:34] <ath_> thought so
[04:34] <ath_> lol
[04:34] <FloodBotK3> ath_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <ath_> hmm, looking at another dmesg..
[04:35] <ath_> Kage_Jittai, http://pastebin.com/m7a625e5e
[04:36] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: doesn't help either
[04:36] <ath_> hrmph
[04:37] <ath_> i hate amd :[
[04:37] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: why did you buy their product :P
[04:37]  * Kage_Jittai only uses intel or nV
[04:37] <ath_> brand loyalty, i was a fanboy back in the athlon v pentium hayday
[04:38] <ath_> when athlons outperformed pentiums, and were cheaper, and i've never really moved on.
[04:38] <ath_> that and their products, gfx card wise, tend to be cheaper & more powerful than nv.
[04:38] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: AMD is alright of CPUs... but...
[04:38] <ath_> read that as cheaper && more powerful
[04:39] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: but nv has AWESOME linux support :P
[04:39] <ath_> yeah, i know that
[04:39] <ath_> but the games I play, i need a win os anyway
[04:39] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: and cheap doesn't count as crap if it doesn't work
[04:39] <ath_> ;P
[04:39] <Kage_Jittai> I don't use windows at all... for anything
[04:40] <ath_> as unfortunately, wine just doesn't cut it for everything
[04:40] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: you any good at programming?
[04:40] <ath_> getting there Kage_Jittai
[04:40] <ath_> don't think i'll ever be at the point i can say i'm any good at it though
[04:40] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: if you would be intrested at it.  I wouldn't mind starting up easypaste again.
[04:41] <Kage_Jittai> sadly I don't have money to buy the domain again.
[04:41] <ath_> sure thing :]
[04:41] <ath_> ah.
[04:41] <Kage_Jittai> we can use other pastebin sites though
[04:41] <ath_> yeah
[04:41] <Kage_Jittai> when I wrote orginally, I used curl, made things really easy
[04:41] <ath_> ah
[04:41] <ath_> was about to ask, i assumed python or perl
[04:41] <Kage_Jittai> it was only like 40 lines long
[04:41] <ath_> python also being very easy
[04:42] <Kage_Jittai> I wrote it in C++ orginally
[04:42] <Kage_Jittai> though... we could use python
[04:42] <ath_> could use asm if we wanted
[04:42] <Kage_Jittai> ...
[04:42] <ath_> i'm just saying!
[04:42] <ath_> haha
[04:42] <genii> !ot
[04:44] <Kage_Jittai> genii: this is on topic... we were debugging and didn't have a tool which would had helped.  And thus we are talking about writing said tool...
[04:44]  * Kage_Jittai ducks
[04:46] <genii> Kage_Jittai: Depending on the language you wished to write such a tool, the channel for that language, or a general programming channel would be most appropriate
[04:47] <RiotingPacifist> !mainline
[04:47] <Kage_Jittai> genii: I am joking with you, get a sense of humor will you :P
[04:48]  * genii hands Kage_Jittai a Kubuntu mug of coffee
[04:48] <ath_> !ot
[04:48] <genii> Kage_Jittai: No worries, my !ot was more a gentle reminder
[05:04] <EdO_o> hi everyone
[05:04] <EdO_o> can somebody help me?
[05:04] <ath_> EdO_o, what's the problem?
[05:05] <genii> EdO_o: Best to just state what your issue/question is and see if someone takes up an answer
[05:05] <EdO_o> i would like to make a dvd live, with 2 or 3 linux distribution
[05:05] <EdO_o> is it posible???
[05:05] <ath_> you mean, so you can choose which linux distribution to boot?
[05:05] <maco> the book Linux Live CDs might help
[05:05] <EdO_o> yeah
[05:05] <maco> i know its *possible* as many linux magazines distribute such DVDs
[05:05] <EdO_o> but from a dvd
[05:06] <maco> but that book's the only thing i can think of to even begin with
[05:06] <ath_> same maco, but i've never looked in to it
[05:06] <anand> can someone help me on Awesome WM configuration
[05:06] <EdO_o> mmm is there any link for it?
[05:07] <ath_> EdO_o, try http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/52927
[05:19] <r00t_ninja> what is the path for all the qt libraries
[05:19] <r00t_ninja> ?
[05:29] <[SilverFox]> I got my drivers installed for my video card
[05:30] <[SilverFox]> but I find moving big windows back and forth
[05:30] <[SilverFox]> very slugish and choppy
[05:30] <[SilverFox]> is there much I can do?
[05:30] <ath_> [SilverFox], what graphics card have you got?
[05:30] <r00t_ninja> ^
[05:30] <genii> r00t_ninja: The filelist for libqtcore4 seems to suggest /usr/lib  with names like libQt-subnamehere
[05:30] <ath_> let me guess.. 4850, 4870, 4890?
[05:31] <[SilverFox]> last one ;)
[05:31] <ath_> yeah
[05:31] <[SilverFox]> I got it working though
[05:31] <[SilverFox]> followed this guide http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[05:31] <ath_> with the proprietary amd drivers or with the open source radeon drivers
[05:31] <ath_> ?
[05:31] <[SilverFox]> proprietary ones
[05:31] <[SilverFox]> i think lol
[05:31] <[SilverFox]> you using the opensource ones?
[05:32] <ath_> if its slow and choppy i'd say you're using the open source drivers
[05:32] <ath_> yeah, having trouble with the proprietary drivers
[05:33] <[SilverFox]> me too
[05:33] <[SilverFox]> then I followed that guide
[05:33] <[SilverFox]> no issues :)
[05:33] <[SilverFox]> before when I did that driver command
[05:33] <[SilverFox]> it show some odd crap
[05:34] <[SilverFox]> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[05:34] <[SilverFox]> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
[05:34] <[SilverFox]> OpenGL version string: 2.1.9116
[05:34] <r00t_ninja> ahh i didnt have libqt4-dev
[05:34] <[SilverFox]> same
[05:34] <[SilverFox]> opps
[05:34] <ath_> [SilverFox], what do you mean you didn't have libqt4-dev
[05:34] <ath_> ?
[05:35] <[SilverFox]> no its not that :P
[05:35] <ath_> Also, what part of the guide did you follow? 1, 2, 3 or 4?
[05:35] <[SilverFox]> brain fart
[05:35] <[SilverFox]> from Installing the restricted drivers manually
[05:36] <[SilverFox]> to fglrxinfo
[05:36] <ath_> hmm, if its slow and choppy..
[05:36] <ath_> try running glxgears
[05:36] <[SilverFox]> how do do I test my opengl
[05:36] <[SilverFox]> yeah
[05:36] <[SilverFox]> what command
[05:37] <ath_> glxgears
[05:37] <[SilverFox]> how long does it run for lol
[05:38] <ath_> until you kill it.
[05:38] <[SilverFox]> uhh
[05:38] <[SilverFox]> so i just post how many frames in 5 secs?
[05:39] <ath_> how many did it say?
[05:39] <ath_> on average
[05:39] <[SilverFox]> 37523 frames in 5.0 seconds
[05:39] <ath_> hmm
[05:39] <[SilverFox]> was around 37400-37500 usally
[05:39] <[SilverFox]> that bad or good?
[05:42] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: I am back
[05:43] <[SilverFox]> Kage whats a good way to test my fps in opengl
[05:43] <Kage_Jittai> glxgears
[05:44] <[SilverFox]> okay I did that how do I know if its good or bad?
[05:44] <[SilverFox]> like example whats urs like?
[05:44] <Kage_Jittai> mine was 2170 frames in 5.0 seconds
[05:45] <[SilverFox]> mine does this 37400-37500  5.0 seconds
[05:45] <[SilverFox]> how can mine be so much higher?
[05:45] <[SilverFox]> is mine broken?
[05:45] <ath_> yo Kage_Jittai, brb
[05:45] <ath_> no [SilverFox], you have 3d acceleration
[05:46] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: I am on a Intel chipset :P
[05:46] <[SilverFox]> ohh
[05:46] <[SilverFox]> do you know if mine is good
[05:46] <[SilverFox]> as in above avg 3d?
[05:46] <Kage_Jittai> IDK
[05:47] <[SilverFox]> hehe
[05:47] <[SilverFox]> I guess I can test it in mana
[05:49] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39349
[05:49] <[SilverFox]> Kage_Jittai for anyone else with my issue http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[05:49] <[SilverFox]> that fixed everything :)
[05:49] <Kage_Jittai> !ati
[05:50] <[SilverFox]> wow fail
[05:50] <[SilverFox]> if a 8800 is doing 100k
[05:50] <[SilverFox]> then Im screwed
[05:50] <codelab> who knows how to use UCsniff
[05:51] <Kage_Jittai> codelab: is that a packet sniffer?
[05:52] <codelab> nope its a video packet sniffer
[05:52] <codelab> for sniffing voip video calls
[05:59] <BigBlackDick> look at me and masturbte
[06:01] <BigBlackDick> codelab: hello
[06:01] <BigBlackDick> codelab: will you suck me
[06:01] <Kage_Jittai> !punish BigBlackDick
[06:01] <BigBlackDick> !punish Kage_Jittai
[06:02] <Kage_Jittai> !op
[06:02] <maco> genii: wow you're quick
[06:02] <maco> thanks!
[06:02] <[SilverFox]> so whats better ati or nvidia in linux? from the sounds of it nvidia by far? but how far since I have a ATI 4890 and a Nvidia 9800GX2 so the new ATI one replaced the Nvidia one by far in windows but I really don't know most applications in linux even native to it I get almost half less fps and they are opengl.
[06:02] <genii> maco:  :)
[06:03] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: nvidia puts about as much dedication into their Linux drivers as that of the windows drivers
[06:03] <ath_> "Screw you, ATI" springs to mind
[06:03] <[SilverFox]> lol
[06:04] <Kage_Jittai> ath_: : nvidia puts about as much dedication into their Linux drivers as that of the windows drivers
[06:04] <[SilverFox]> Kage_Jittai can I swap my video card and will it work or will i get some issues
[06:04] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: Ummm... just don't hotswap xD
[06:04] <[SilverFox]> LMAO
[06:04] <ath_> Kage_Jittai, yeah, I know, i used to use nvidia gfx cards
[06:04] <[SilverFox]> zappp
[06:04] <ath_> lol
[06:04] <[SilverFox]> there goes 2 cards
[06:05] <[SilverFox]> maybe instead of going just linux
[06:05] <[SilverFox]> I can have 1 pc linux and this one windows
[06:05] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: you can always duel boot
[06:05] <ath_> you got 4890s [SilverFox] , so you intended to game
[06:05] <[SilverFox]> yes ath
[06:06] <ath_> am afraid there's not a great deal of gaming to be done in linux
[06:06] <[SilverFox]> I can't stand dual booting
[06:06] <[SilverFox]> well if my ati card worked flawless
[06:06]  * Kage_Jittai slaps ath_
[06:06] <[SilverFox]> I maybe able to live with it
[06:06] <Kage_Jittai> that is a load of bull there is TMW, Teeworlds, assultcube, and tons more
[06:06] <ath_> Uh huh
[06:07] <[SilverFox]> but  I get almost 4 times less fps then that of a 3-4 year old card
[06:07] <ath_> [SilverFox], sue ATI for negligence
[06:07] <[SilverFox]> nah
[06:07] <[SilverFox]> going to hijack a nuke
[06:07] <[SilverFox]> and strap their kids onto it
[06:07] <Kage_Jittai> [SilverFox]: the thing is... Linux will never get better support until the market and its users demand it
[06:08] <[SilverFox]> tbh
[06:08] <Kage_Jittai> the only real arguement people use for linux is "There is no software for it"
[06:08] <[SilverFox]> I'm supprised AMD is not forcing it
[06:08] <Orion777> kate_jittai, the command you gave me deleted my home folder, I had to reinstall kubuntu
[06:09] <Orion777> rm -fr ~ /.mozilla is what you had typed
[06:09] <ath_> No Orion777, you had somehow messed up the permissions for your entire box.
[06:09] <[SilverFox]> LMAO
[06:09] <Kage_Jittai> Orion777: that is not what I told you
[06:09] <Kage_Jittai> I said: rm -fr ~/.mozilla
[06:09] <Kage_Jittai> no space
[06:10] <[SilverFox]> We use to prank people and tell them to run rm -fr
[06:10] <Orion777> uh huh
[06:10] <[SilverFox]> this was 10 years ago and I was a teen.
[06:10] <Kage_Jittai> [23:21:11] <Kage_Jittai> Orion777: sudo rm -fr ~/.mozilla
[06:12] <Kage_Jittai> shit... quassel crashed :(
[06:15] <Orion777> anyone, even reinstalling isn't working cause the new install won't install packages or anything
[06:15] <cheeko> guys can u please tell me how to run window games fron kubutu
[06:15] <Orion777> how to repair grub?
[06:18] <r00t_ninja> Orion777: have you refreshed your package list?
[06:19] <Kage_Jittai> http://qdb.us/300872  Enjoy :)
[06:19] <Poltergiest> Hello folks ^^
[06:20] <Orion777> r00t_ninja, how?
[06:21] <Orion777> root_ninja, hardware(video card) update isn't working either
[06:21] <Orion777> this is the second time I did format and reinstall but packages won't install
[06:22] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: install wine
[06:22] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: note: wine can not run every windows program, and ones it can run my experince problems
[06:22] <Kage_Jittai> !wine
[06:23] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: what abt cedega
[06:23] <Kage_Jittai> !cedega
[06:25] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: IIRC WINE is normally better software wise, cause its more uptodate.  While cedega aims at configuring wine for certain applications.  So if your techy enough, the best solution is use the most uptodate version of wine with the settings and configures of cedega.
[06:28] <cheeko> thanks Kage_Jittai
[06:28] <Kage_Jittai> np
[06:31] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: that will be $10.50 :)
[06:32] <r00t_ninja> Orion777: go into kpackage kit
[06:32] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: yeah
[06:32] <r00t_ninja> use playonlinux its awesome
[06:32] <r00t_ninja> you can easily have multiple versions of wine
[06:32] <r00t_ninja> Orion777: then software updates and refresh
[06:33] <r00t_ninja> or run the command:
[06:33] <r00t_ninja> sudo apt-get update
[06:39] <cheeko> is ther any way i cud get win4lin thru keryx
[06:41] <Kage_Jittai> win4lin??? keryx???
[06:41] <cheeko> keryx is for offline pcs
[06:42] <cheeko> win4lin i just found is like wine
[06:42] <Kage_Jittai> !win4lin
[06:42] <Kage_Jittai> :( it doesn't know about it
[06:42] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: so any idea
[06:42] <Orion777> rootninja-that's necessary for hardware update also?
[06:43] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: can i run Kubuntu thru my usb
[06:44] <r00t_ninja> Orion777: to install hardware drivers do that and then reboot
[06:45] <cheeko> can i run kubuntu thru my usb
[06:46] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: A. win4lin is $30 for a home user...  B. It seems like just any other VM other then a integrated filesystem  C. I don't think it will allow for 3D acceleration or SMP
[06:47] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: cedega seems to be a safe bet
[06:47] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: IIRC cedega is free isn't it
[06:47] <codelab> kage_jittai: what about crossover
[06:48] <Kage_Jittai> also, r00t_ninja suggested playonlinux
[06:48] <jussi01> cedega has a free and a paid version
[06:48] <Kage_Jittai> yes... yes... I know there are 2345 WINE based projects... sadly I have only tried WINE, so don't ask me
[06:49] <r00t_ninja> jussi01: is there any particular program you are looking to run?
[06:49] <maco> isnt wine beyond cedega nowadays?
[06:50] <maco> cuz with the licensing, cedega can no longer take wine's improvements
[06:51] <cheeko> codelab: so isnt ther keryx for installinf win4all
[06:51] <cheeko> or cedega
[06:51] <jussi01> r00t_ninja: ?
[06:52] <r00t_ninja> i mean cheeko
[06:52] <cheeko> well i need to run transformers
[06:53] <r00t_ninja> have you tried with wine?
[06:53] <cheeko> r00t_ninja: yes
[06:54] <r00t_ninja> wine 1.2?
[06:55] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: did you check to make sure you don't need any DLLs or anything to make it work correctly
[06:55] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: a lot of times things require tweaking to work in WINE
[06:56] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: but i just switched over to linux becoz wht trouble windows used to cause
[06:56] <Orion777> root_ninja: know the command for installing kde 4.3.4
[07:00] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: what is the full name of the game?
[07:02] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: transformers the game
[07:11] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: ok cedega doesn't have it in their database.  And WINE gives it a rating of garbage, however that was quite a few versions ago
[07:11] <cheeko> ok
[07:11] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: however you said you tried, and it didn't work, correct?
[07:11] <cheeko> yes
[07:12] <Kage_Jittai> then good chance it won't work with WINE, sorry
[07:12] <cheeko> np
[07:13] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: I would like you to remember one thing... running a windows program on a non windows platform is a VERY difficult thing.   its like trying to cook steak with a toaster oven.
[07:13] <cheeko> wen i run kubuntu it says init too long then freezes
[07:14] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: do you have any more details then that?
[07:14] <cheeko> yes
[07:15] <cheeko> i tride formatting my lap with ext4 and installed kubuntu
[07:16] <cheeko> every thing goes well 1ce it restarts to start the os it just freezes and says init too long
[07:18] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: I would try reinstalling it, maybe something went wrong in the install process
[07:19] <cheeko> this wud be the fourth time if i do it again
[07:19] <cheeko> 9.04 work perfectly fine
[07:19] <Kage_Jittai> Hmmmm
[07:20] <cheeko> but not 9.10
[07:20] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: try formatting it with ext3 instead
[07:20] <cheeko> did tht
[07:20] <cheeko> but not ext2 and 1
[07:20] <Kage_Jittai> don't do 2 and 1
[07:21] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: do you get past the grub menu?
[07:21] <cheeko> i did ext3
[07:21] <cheeko> yet the same prob
[07:21] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: do you get past the grub menu?
[07:21] <cheeko> nope
[07:22] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: just stay ryt wher it is
[07:22] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: but the grub menu loads?
[07:22] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: and frezes
[07:22] <cheeko> yes
[07:23] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: come to #ubuntu
[07:23] <cheeko> im ther already
[07:23] <Kage_Jittai> k
[07:24] <cheeko> but no one respondin to my query
[07:25] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: nice 1
[07:26] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: looks like we are on our own...
[07:26] <Kage_Jittai> ok, lets try to boot into your OS though grub maunally
[07:27] <Kage_Jittai> just... let me find where to do that since I have forgotten <_<
[07:27] <cheeko> ok
[07:27] <cheeko> can i pm u
[07:28] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai:
[07:32] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: yes
[07:33] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: does it give you a error message line "init too long (max 11 characters)"?
[07:34] <Kage_Jittai> or is it just init too long?
[07:36] <echotone> cheekoo whats up?
[07:37] <cheeko> echotone: >	GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 and let me know if it works for u
[07:37] <cheeko> im havin the prob
[07:37] <cheeko> same prob
[07:37] <echotone> would it explain why i can install and run every major os except for linux?
[07:38] <echotone> i had it running 2 days ago and now all of a sudden i cant install it
[07:38] <cheeko> my xp does fine
[07:38] <cheeko> but wen ubuntu or kubuntu loads i just get the mssg init too long
[07:38] <cheeko> do u get tht too
[07:39] <echotone> i get no message at all. just a black screen.
[07:39] <echotone> i tried the live cd too . nothing works
[07:39] <cheeko> whts ur pc config
[07:40] <Kage_Jittai> echotone: cheeko: I am getting caught up on GRUB2, give me a minute
[07:40] <cheeko> sure
[07:40] <echotone> shuttle xpc. 4G RAM, 1TB HDD, Pentium 4, NVIDIA 9500GT
[07:41] <herol> somebody teach me how to use tor
[07:41] <cheeko> i feel thers some prob on p4 coz thing work fine in dual cores and core2duos
[07:42] <cheeko> even i have p4
[07:42] <echotone> i had it working just fine though. i just built this computer and the first thing i did was install 9.10
[07:42] <echotone> it worked fine until i tried win7
[07:43] <echotone> now it majically wont install
[07:43] <cheeko> formatted the whole thing or just partial
[07:43] <echotone> the links i got from these chats all require a terminal. i cant get to one
[07:43] <cheeko> why
[07:43] <echotone> i have formatted and reformatted the whole drive
[07:44] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: did you try to install win7?
[07:44] <echotone> i cant install the system to get to a terminal
[07:44] <cheeko> nope i hate windows after vista
[07:45] <echotone> likewise. which is why i am so upset that i cant use anything except windows on my computer now.
[07:45] <pradeep1288> how to install kde from karmic ubuntu 9.10
[07:45] <Kage_Jittai> !kubuntu-desktop
[07:46] <Kage_Jittai> echotone: cheeko: ok let me follow this boot process correct
[07:46] <cheeko> echotone: well try to solve it
[07:46] <Kage_Jittai> echotone: cheeko: You both can load the grub2 menu, correct?
[07:46] <echotone> what is the grub2 menu? i can install the system but i cant run it.
[07:47] <Kage_Jittai> echotone: do you get a menu where you can select what to boot into  I.E.  Ubuntu, memtest, windows, etc
[07:47] <cheeko> i can see the msg after grub i dunt know whether it is grub 1 or 2
[07:47] <echotone> i use the whole drive, i dont have more than one partition
[07:48] <cheeko> yes
[07:48] <cheeko> itried the whole partition thing and partial thing both
[07:48] <echotone> but if i had installed windows and then tried ubuntu (like from wubi) then, yes. i can choose which one i want
[07:48] <Kage_Jittai> then you both get the error message "init too long"?
[07:48] <cheeko> i get it
[07:48] <cheeko> echotone: goes blank
[07:49] <echotone> i get a page of jargon and riffraff but then it goes away and goes black
[07:49] <cheeko> it even had happed to me wen i was workin wid livecd
[07:49] <cheeko> echotone: tht happens in livecd ryt
[07:49] <echotone> i cant even use the live cd. the same thing happens
[07:50] <cheeko> it happend to me but but some how it works fine
[07:50] <cheeko> now tht is
[07:50] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: it works now?
[07:50] <cheeko> the live cd
[07:51] <echotone> you got it to wirk? or it just decided to work all of a sudden?
[07:51] <cheeko> not the live cd worked after i formated my hd
[07:51] <echotone> did you change anything in BIOS or anything?
[07:51] <cheeko> nope
[07:51] <echotone> i tried formatting. what format did you choose?
[07:51] <cheeko> ntfs
[07:52] <echotone> i tried FAT and ext2,3,4
[07:52] <cheeko> i had 3 partitions initially
[07:52] <echotone> i'll try that one next
[07:52] <cheeko> but now only 1
[07:52] <cheeko> but i get the prob of init too long in my hd boot now
[07:53] <cheeko> so dont try it well find the soln then try installing
[07:53] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: is there ANY other messages on the screen
[07:53] <cheeko> no just tht one
[07:53] <cheeko> i have a doubt on processor
[07:54] <echotone> have you ever had it working on the pentium 4?
[07:54] <echotone> i have
[07:54] <cheeko> coz it seems to work xtremely well in other processord
[07:54] <echotone> my laptop has core 2 duo and it works fine.
[07:54] <apparle> hello guys
[07:54] <echotone> and i have had wondows7 on it and osx86 and 8.04 ubuntu and 9.10 ubuntu
[07:55] <cheeko> but tht wud be older version ryt or the 9.10
[07:55] <apparle> !dev
[07:55] <echotone> i have had no problems with any os on my laptop. i am currently running 9.10 on it  right now to chat with you
[07:56] <echotone> thanks ubottu but i need to figure out how to install it first. hahaha
[07:56] <cheeko> sud i try #ubuntu-bugs
[07:56] <cheeko> ubottu:
[07:56] <echotone> why not?
[07:56] <cheeko> so lets get ther
[07:57] <Kage_Jittai> google is not helping me at all with this error. I am about ready to search though the kernel's source code do see if this error message is in there
[07:58] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: can u come to #ubuntu-bugs we 'll try it ther
[08:00] <Kage_Jittai> echotone: try the alternate CD
[08:01] <echotone> i am using the alt cd right now. the same thing happens. i was happy that i could even install the system with the alt cd but then it boots and goes black...
[08:01] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: what is an alter nate cd
[08:01] <echotone> its a text based installer instead of buttons to click
[08:02] <cheeko> echotone: wer did u get it 4m
[08:04] <echotone> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[08:05] <r00t_ninja> cheeko: do you have a intel card?
[08:05] <cheeko> yes
[08:05] <r00t_ninja> if so you will have to update before xorg will work
[08:05] <r00t_ninja> for some card
[08:05] <r00t_ninja> s
[08:06] <echotone> i also have intel chipset. i had ubuntu running. and now it doesnt work. might that be the same problem?
[08:06] <r00t_ninja> are you able to switch to a console by pressing ctrl + alt + f2
[08:06] <r00t_ninja> login
[08:06] <r00t_ninja> and then do "sudo apt-get update"
[08:06] <Orion777> how do I install kde 4.3.4?
[08:06] <r00t_ninja> "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:06] <Kage_Jittai> ok... "init too long" did NOT come from the kernel
[08:07] <echotone> i cant get to anything. i cant install the os. so i cant get to a terminal or anything.
[08:07] <echotone> it goes black before i get to do anything at all
[08:07] <r00t_ninja> Orion777: i think by installing the updates you should get updated to kde 4.3.4
[08:07] <echotone> what would it have come from kage?
[08:07] <echotone> i am loooost
[08:08] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: is "init too long" the exact message you get?
[08:08] <cheeko> yes Kage_Jittai
[08:08] <Orion777> rootninja: installing updates did not install kde 4.3.4 and sudo apt-get upgrade didn't add anything
[08:08] <r00t_ninja> echotone: can you install with an alternative install cd
[08:08] <r00t_ninja> Orion777: did you do sudo apt-get update first ?
[08:09] <r00t_ninja> Orion777:  or just go into kpackagekit , the software updates section click refresh then select all updates
[08:09] <echotone> root: yes i can. but when i restart the comp without the disk in and i try to boot into os. the ubuntu logo flashes and then the screen goes black after showing me a page of something for a couple of seconds.
[08:09] <cheeko> same haer echotone
[08:10] <r00t_ninja> can you then press ctrl + alt + f2 and get to a virtual console
[08:10] <Orion777> I did sudo apt-get update which said nothing installed updated..then went to package kit and rfresh comes up with nothing
[08:10] <cheeko> r00t_ninja: i ll try
[08:10] <echotone> i didnt try that yet. i am restarting the installation of the os so i can try that.
[08:11] <r00t_ninja> Orion777: you sure your not already on kde 4.3.4?
[08:11] <Orion777> yes
[08:11] <r00t_ninja> wait is 4.3.4 in the repos?
[08:12] <Orion777> if you mean what comes with 9.10 no
[08:12] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: and you said 9.04 worked?
[08:12] <Orion777> I have kde 4.3.2
[08:12] <cheeko> yes it did
[08:12] <r00t_ninja> same
[08:12] <r00t_ninja> cheeko: so your in a console?
[08:13] <cheeko> nope
[08:13] <r00t_ninja> yes what did then?
[08:13] <r00t_ninja> oh
[08:13] <r00t_ninja> dw
[08:14] <cheeko> init too long
[08:14] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: google... has forsaken me with this "init too long" error
[08:14] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: I am starting to think you might be leading me in circles
[08:14] <echotone> he sint.
[08:14] <echotone> ubuntu is
[08:14] <echotone> he isnt*
[08:15] <echotone> i am in the same circle.
[08:15] <Kage_Jittai> "init too long" is not a very helpful error message...
[08:15] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: no i aint
[08:16] <echotone> but if it is all that we have...what else can we do? Thanks for trying to help us out though.
[08:16] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: ok... lets try something, you got your 9.04 live CD handy?
[08:16] <cheeko> no just 9.10
[08:16] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: can you boot to it?
[08:17] <r00t_ninja> im guessing the init to long message is due to xorg failing to start
[08:17] <Orion777> rootninja, there is a command or source for package to upgrade to 4.3.4 but I can't remember what it is
[08:17] <Kage_Jittai> r00t_ninja: he doesn't get a splash screen though
[08:18] <r00t_ninja> oh rite
[08:18] <Kage_Jittai> r00t_ninja: if it was a Xorg issue it wouldn't happen until after the splash screen
[08:18] <r00t_ninja> wait
[08:18] <r00t_ninja> xsplash uses xorg
[08:18] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: wht are u talkin abt 9.10 or 9.04
[08:19] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: any, do you have any Linux live CDs you can boot to?
[08:19] <cheeko> knoppix 6
[08:19] <cheeko> and kubuntu 9.10
[08:19] <Kage_Jittai> that'll work
[08:19] <Kage_Jittai> boot to it, and mount your harddrive
[08:19] <cheeko> ok
[08:19] <Kage_Jittai> I wanna get at some log files
[08:19] <SeaOrifice> so whats up in here ?
[08:20] <cheeko> SeaOrifice: just go thru dude
[08:21] <r00t_ninja> oh wait kubuntu doesnt use xsplash lol
[08:22] <Kage_Jittai> r00t_ninja: I believe its a system level problem.  Possible the kernel can't start the init process
[08:22] <echotone> whats init process?
[08:23] <echotone> its a popular error message for me today
[08:23] <Kage_Jittai> echotone: its the first process called by the kernel, and starts all the other system service
[08:23] <echotone> thank you
[08:23] <codelab> init problem means you the boot cd is corrupt and cant initialize
[08:24] <Kage_Jittai> codelab: he can boot to the CD, and he has tried to install kubuntu 4 times
[08:24] <echotone> i see. that makes sense.
[08:24] <echotone> i am installing the system right now.
[08:24] <Kage_Jittai> all the time when he tries to boot from the HD he gets the error message
[08:25] <echotone> but it doesnt run
[08:25] <echotone> this is my 4th try also
[08:25] <echotone> cheecko, any luck?
[08:25] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: now im in knoppix
[08:25] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: got your hd mounted?
[08:25] <cheeko> from knoppix echotone
[08:26] <cheeko> Kage_Jittai: i get this msg error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure
[08:26] <cheeko> during mount ing
[08:27] <Kage_Jittai> o_o
[08:27] <Kage_Jittai> try mounting it manually
[08:27] <cheeko> tell me commands
[08:27] <Kage_Jittai> open a terminal
[08:27] <cheeko> done
[08:27] <cheeko> nxt
[08:28] <Kage_Jittai> then do:  sudo mkdir /mnt/fs && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/fs
[08:29] <Kage_Jittai> wait... shit... I bet knoppix doesn't have sudo
[08:30] <cheeko> it has i cant always do sudu su
[08:30] <cheeko> srry sudo su
[08:30] <Kage_Jittai> just do su
[08:30] <Kage_Jittai> then do
[08:30] <Kage_Jittai> mkdir /mnt/fs && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/fs
[08:34] <cheeko> wait
[08:36] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: `?
[08:37] <cheeko> yes
[08:37] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: is it mounted?
[08:38] <cheeko> i made a dir but no able to mount
[08:39] <Kage_Jittai> do you get a error or what?
[08:40] <cheeko> i need to figure out my nodes my self ryt
[08:41] <Kage_Jittai> ???
[08:41] <echotone> My alternate cd installation just said it installed the grub2 bootloader. i hope this time it works.
[08:41] <cheeko> i have hdc1 and hdc5
[08:42] <cheeko> hdb in my mnt folder
[08:42] <Kage_Jittai> use hdc1
[08:42] <cheeko> ok
[08:42] <cheeko> so the command wud be
[08:43] <Kage_Jittai> mount /mnt/fs /dev/hdc1
[08:43] <Kage_Jittai> wait...
[08:43] <sysop2> I have a bad session, its so bad I cant clear it from the gui due to video corruption. how do I clear it from the command line?
[08:43] <Kage_Jittai> mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/fs
[08:43] <Kage_Jittai> ffs
[08:43] <Kage_Jittai> I am getting sleepy
[08:44] <sysop2> I moved everything out of ~/.kde/share/config/session is there anything else?
[08:45] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: use, not the other command mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt/fs
[08:52] <Kage_Jittai> cheeko: can you mount your harddrive?
[08:53] <cheekoo> cheeko ins now cheekoo
[08:54] <oscar> alguien que escriba en español
[08:54] <Kage_Jittai> !es
[09:01] <echotone> okay. i installed the system and rebooted. it got as far as to tell me that it started the init crypto disks and then gave me the black screen. i cannot ctrl alt f2 to get a terminal. just a terminally black screen.
[09:03] <r00t_ninja> what about ctrl + alt + f1?
[09:09] <echotone> no ctrl alt f1 either
[09:12] <smellynosery> Hi, I upgraded to KArmic last night and my status bar/toolbar/place where menu button is, isn't responsive anymore
[09:12] <smellynosery> I have to use alt+tab to change windowds
[09:12] <smellynosery> Why would that happen?
[09:13] <echotone> maybe try to update and reboot...? idk
[09:13] <stefan__> one nasty thing that usually works but removes all your configurations is to remove the plasma-conf from your .kde directory
[09:13] <stefan__> but try different things first ;)
[09:14] <echotone> i found commands online that reset all of your visuals. maybe that would work too.
[09:25] <vita> Hi all.
[09:27] <vita> I have minor problem. After dist-upgrading to KK I get during boot error message saying, that partitions in /etc/fstab are already mounted and cannot be mounted again. And that pressing Esc will bring in recovery console.
[09:27] <vita> After I ignore it, system properly boots and disks are mounted properly
[09:27] <vita> Any ideas
[09:27] <vita> ?
[09:28] <Vroomfondle> any duplicate entries in /etc/fstab?
[09:29] <vita> Vroomfondle: None
[09:30] <vita> Also in dmesg and /var/log/messages there is nothing suspicious
[09:30] <vita> Perhaps some readahead app or somethingf like that is doing this
[09:32] <vandenoever> is there a ppa for qt 4.6 (but without kde 4.4)
[09:34] <stefan__> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental
[09:34] <stefan__> but beware: after you upgraded to qt4.6 its hard to downgrade back
[09:34] <ghostcube> qt 4.6 runs fine here so far
[09:34] <stefan__> kde 4.3. in general works with qt4.6 but not amarok for example
[09:34] <stefan__> so be warned
[09:38] <vandenoever> stefan__: for that i'll use ogg123 then :-)
[09:39] <stefan__> as i said - it just what i encountered - might be there are other apps as well
[09:39] <stefan__> kopete, kmail, quassel, konsole, kate, okular, dolphin, plsam, kwin work, though ;)
[09:39] <stefan__> plsam = plasma
[09:50] <andrewgodwin> any news on the 4.4 karmic packages? most of them look to be done in the staging PPA...
[09:54] <Tm_T> andrewgodwin: most, but that's not enough
[09:54] <Tm_T> andrewgodwin: and I'm not sure if even those are ready to use
[09:55] <stefan__> its sad that it takes so long...
[10:13] <shankly> hi all
[10:28] <ilter> Hello. I investigated log files. But i don't want to see from it's begining. Is there any comment to see logs sort by descending date?
[10:33] <ilter> sorry i mean *command
[10:33] <llutz> ilter: tac
[10:35] <ilter> llutz: Thank you so much it's exactly which i need command.
[10:41] <elguyo> any digg users here?
[10:42] <smellynosery> Hi - Is it possible to change my sources list to get newer kernels?
[10:42] <smellynosery> If so, what do I add?
[10:48] <ghostcube> smellynosery: there is an ubuntu kernel ppa for not official released once but they may dont include all drivers you need
[10:48] <smellynosery> ghostcube: Rar
[10:49] <smellynosery> I have a fairly big problem with usb modems that I thought was fixed in a specific kernel, so wanted to upgrade kernel to see what would happen
[10:49] <smellynosery> Probably lots of breakages, but maybe it would work
[10:50] <ghostcube> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:57] <NoobCp> Any idea how to log in after a "restart". Using a live disc, 9.10 regional remaster
[10:58] <r00t_ninja> try using the user "ubuntu"
[10:58] <r00t_ninja> with no password
[10:59] <NoobCp> Didn't work, even tho the GUI is telling me that user is ubuntu
[11:07] <NoobCp> Also sometimes some bizarre notification from what I presume is the wireless manager interrupts a shut down and brings me to that log-in screen
[11:08] <smellynosery> How easy is it to downgrade? and what kernel comes with jaunty?
[11:11] <Mamarok> !downgrade | smellynosery
[11:11] <smellynosery> Cool
[11:13] <Mamarok> smellynosery: the easiest way is to reinstall, if you have your /home on a separate partition it is done in less than 30 minutes
[11:13] <Mamarok> just move the $HOME/.kde/ out of the way before restarting, and everything should work fine
[11:14] <smellynosery> I just have an issue with usb modems
[11:14] <smellynosery> And apparently it's a regression
[11:14] <smellynosery> So I either need to downgrade to jaunty, or upgrade my kernel
[11:14] <smellynosery> Not sure which is best :P
[11:15] <Mamarok> can't tell, I don't think a newer kernel is that big a risk
[11:15] <Mamarok> and far easier to test
[11:16] <Mamarok> see the kernel PPA ghostcube told you about
[11:16] <ghostcube> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[11:16] <ghostcube> hi Mamarok :)
[11:16] <Mamarok> hi ghostcube :)
[11:22] <ubuntu> help needed...
[11:23] <ubuntu> i am not able to log in because the login window crashes
[11:23] <ubuntu> how do i change the login window theme?
[11:24] <i_is_broke> ubuntu, i take it your using gdm?
[11:24] <ubuntu> yes
[11:25] <i_is_broke> have you tried dpkg -reconfigure gdm?
[11:25] <ubuntu> no...
[11:25] <i_is_broke> or install kdm?
[11:25] <ubuntu> i am really new and i dont  even know what they are
[11:26] <i_is_broke> are you running kubuntu or ubuntu?
[11:26] <ubuntu> kubuntu
[11:26] <i_is_broke> then it should be kdm unless when setting up you told it to use gdm
[11:26] <ubuntu> ummm...
[11:27] <ubuntu> i downloaded the installation files
[11:27] <i_is_broke> what version are you running 9.04 or 9.10 or older?
[11:27] <ubuntu> from the "art" thingy
[11:28] <ubuntu> 9.04
[11:28] <ubuntu> but it is ultimate edition
[11:28] <ubuntu> 2.3
[11:28] <ubuntu> (i believe it is bases on 9.04)
[11:28] <FloodBotK3> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:28] <Mamarok> Ultimate?
[11:29] <i_is_broke> ok are you using grub or grub2 and what the heck is ultimate?
[11:29] <ubuntu> yes
[11:29] <ubuntu> what did you mean by "dont flood"?
[11:29] <i_is_broke> dont use the enter key all on one line please
[11:29] <i_is_broke> it makes the channel scroll to much.
[11:30] <Mamarok> ubuntu: sorry, what version do you use, can you open a terminal and run uname -a, please?
[11:30] <ubuntu> ok
[11:30] <r00t_ninja> its a distro based on ubuntu
[11:30] <Mamarok> !ultimate
[11:30] <i_is_broke> ah is ee.
[11:30] <Mamarok> right...
[11:31] <Mamarok> ubuntu: you should ask the Ultimate Edition people then, I guess you have a website for that
[11:32] <ubuntu> i looked up the website, and they directed me to this chat
[11:32] <Mamarok> ubuntu: you can get help for your distribution here: http://forumubuntusoftware.info/, we do not offer support for it
[11:33] <ubuntu> ok. thanks a lot!
[11:33] <ubuntu> :)
[11:33] <Mamarok> they should do the support since they decided to make it, we simply can't, sorry
[11:33] <i_is_broke> i dont know why they would send him to this room?
[11:34] <NoobCp> Which site referred you here ubuntu ?
[11:34] <i_is_broke> he said there web site so i was taking it as ultimate.
[11:34] <NoobCp> I'm taking it as an indeterminate
[11:35] <Mamarok> no, the website says nothing at all about this channel, they have a forum, ond they should do their own support, we simply can't
[11:36] <NoobCp> Which is exactly why we can't possibly know which "the" was meant
[11:36] <ubuntu> i am really sorry for all the confusion guys...
[11:37] <NoobCp> Do you remember were you foud the chat? I'm curious ;D
[11:37] <ubuntu> i am trying the website you have suggested
[11:37] <ubuntu> i think it was in http://ultimateedition.info/
[11:38] <Mamarok> well, they are not supposed to send you here at all, who said you should ask here?
[11:39] <Mamarok> ubuntu: that is the website, and there is the link to the forum I gave you above
[11:39] <ubuntu> i dont remember very clearly how i got to this chat...
[11:39] <Mamarok> I don't see any reference to our IRC channel
[11:39] <ubuntu> but now that it is clear to me that i need to go else where, i am going off
[11:40] <Mamarok> ubuntu: nvm, you know where to ask now :)
[11:40] <ubuntu> sorry for bothering you
[11:40] <ubuntu> yes. :)
[11:40] <ubuntu> thanks! :)
[11:40] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[11:40] <millun> how many MB could be upgrade 9.04->9.10
[11:40] <millun> ?
[11:40] <millun> i am asking because i got crappy connection
[11:41] <Mamarok> millun: depends what you are upgrading, if it is only a basic installation it's probably around 300 Mb
[11:41] <millun> i've kept up to date... sort of. didn't update for a month or two
[11:41] <Mamarok> which might as well go to 2-3 Gb if you have a very extensive isntallation
[11:42] <Mamarok> like if you have installed both KDE and Gnome, that is big
[11:42] <millun> i see
[11:48] <SeaOrifice> Does anyone have a problem while running kubuntu installer saying " init 2 long" ???
[11:48] <SeaOrifice> ok thats not 2
[11:48] <SeaOrifice> its too long
[11:49] <SeaOrifice> and it comes while booting up
[11:49] <SeaOrifice> host has Pentium4
[11:52] <NoobCp> is there a way to find system hotkeys?
[11:52] <NoobCp> like look them all up?
[11:52] <NoobCp> Sure could use hotkey for run and terminal
[11:52] <NoobCp> +a
[11:53] <r00t_ninja> NoobCp: look in system settings under keyboard
[11:54] <r00t_ninja> & mouse
[11:55] <NoobCp> Oh and any idea if control+alt keys not giving me "altgr" in Kate is standard feature?
[11:57] <NoobCp> Scratch that, system wide
[11:57] <NoobCp> altgr!=alt+control
[12:01] <morgan>  	/msg [S`n`N]`Bakeneko xdcc send 6
[12:01] <r00t_ninja> ....
[12:02] <morgan>  /msg [S`n`N]`Bakeneko xdcc send 6
[12:06] <jussi01> is there any alternative to running chkdsk /f and rebooting windows twice when a ntfs is in an inconsistent state? the drive is almost dead and Imhoping to get something off it...
[12:07] <ghostcube> jussi01: testdisk is cool for this
[12:07] <ghostcube> may it can repair the disk
[12:07] <jussi01> !info testdisk
[12:08] <jussi01> ooh, Ill have a look at that.
[12:08] <jussi01> and it works on ntfs?
[12:08] <ghostcube> yeo
[12:08] <ghostcube> p
[12:08] <ghostcube> and its there on windows mac nd linux
[12:08] <ghostcube> :)
[12:09] <trudelI> have any windows version for mac?
[12:09] <trudelI> !info b00t_mija
[12:09] <r00t_ninja> ?
[12:10] <trudelI> !info linux for mac
[12:10] <cheeko> is there any driver update for nvidia graphics card
[12:10] <ghostcube> trudelI: for ppc
[12:10] <ghostcube> !ppc | trudelI
[12:11] <cheeko> i have 8600gt
[12:11] <trudelI> but power pc aren't discountinued?
[12:25] <cheeko> save our souls
[12:26] <cheeko> please
[12:27] <Mamarok> !patience | cheeko
[12:27] <jussi01> ghostcube: hrr, testdisk doesnt like ti if you cant mount the partition...
[12:27] <ghostcube> jussi01: oh hmm
[12:27] <ghostcube> maybe any windows pc you have to check it ?
[12:27] <ghostcube> it should run on windows without mountig
[12:27] <jussi01> ghostcube: I cant boot into windows...
[12:27] <ghostcube> oh tahts the problemo :|
[12:27] <jussi01> its a laptop hdd
[12:27] <ghostcube> hmmmm
[12:28] <jussi01> I wonder if the HP recovery partition has some tool...
[12:39] <cheeko> google chromium is based on ubuntu ight
[12:40] <jussi01> cheeko: that discussion really belongs in an offtopic channel such as #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:40] <cheeko> sorry my bad
[12:47] <letourdefrance> I have ubuntu installed, and updated to v. 9.10 karmic koala. But since i did this i cannot connect to my wireless network. Should something be setup in order for wireless to work again?
[12:48] <regina> ку
[12:49] <regina> есть кто живой ?
[12:49] <letourdefrance> ??
[12:49] <bazhang> !ru | regina
[12:52] <muimota> hi this is a really easy question: I want to change kde theme from air (I don't like the transparent taskbar). How can I achieve this?
[12:54] <jussi01> hrm, someone remind me how to delete a user that I accidentally created?
[12:56] <muimota> oops I closed the window accidentally
[12:56] <muimota> some can tellme how to change the theme
[12:58] <tsimpson> jussi01: sudo userdel <user name>
[12:58] <jussi01> ahh
[12:58] <tsimpson> use -r to remove their $HOME too
[13:00] <Spezi> muimota: can'/t tell you how the option is called exactly (i'm from germany), but if you right click on your desktop and choose the downmost option, there should be an option to change the theme
[13:01] <muimota> spezi:Thankyou! it was the really simple thing I didn't remember.
[13:23] <letourdefrance> hmmm updating did not work. I simply cannot connect to wireless since i updated to 9.10. Any suggestions?
[13:44] <phant0m_> does anyone know anything about printers?
[13:44] <phant0m_> pls
[13:47] <llutz> !anyone > phant0m_
[13:49] <austlaw> just upgraded to the new kubuntu, cannot increase my resolution to what it was before
[13:49] <phant0m_> ok my problem is i dont have a driver for my printer so it wont print its an epson stylus is there anything i can do to resolve this
[13:50] <phant0m_> oh yeah also tried there web site and they dont seem to have support for my problem either
[13:50] <llutz> phant0m_: what stylus exactly?
[13:50] <austlaw> within hardware drivers, it says my nvidia drivers are still active
[13:51] <phant0m_> sx200
[13:51] <phant0m_> yeah thats the one
[13:51] <llutz> phant0m_: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_SX200
[13:51] <phant0m_> sweet ty
[13:53] <SiVA_> in crontab, where the script is defined, can you pass paramters simply like: mycronscript -param1 foo -param2 bar ? ?
[13:55] <llutz> SiVA_: yes
[14:02] <phant0m_> hmmm not supported for x64
[14:02] <austlaw> it won't let me increase my resolution...
[14:03] <phant0m_> llutz do they not support 64 bit architecture
[14:04] <austlaw> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing?
[14:15] <Ranarama> How come when I try to install Windows I get disk read error, but when I installed Kubuntu, it worked just fine?
[14:19] <austlaw> maximum resolution listed is 640x480, how do I fix this?
[14:30] <Luggage> hey all, any idea what could cause format and new windows installation to NOT lose grub? I was very surprised after setup to win 7 to see the grub bootloader still, I think it might hint to the cause of my problems atm
[14:31] <Luggage> As ar as I know windows should have written over it and I would have either had to reinstall kubuntu or repair the boot loader. but it wasn't gone after win 7 setup
[14:34] <Luggage> sorry if its somewhat win related, but ask about grub in win channels and 8/10 replies are what is grub?
[14:36] <letourdefrance> ohh well... Unfortunately Linux still seems to be rather useless... I wonder if it will ever actually be usable..I hope so...anyway...back to a more productive environment
[14:36] <Luggage> hmm useless?
[14:36] <Luggage> I use it as my main os
[14:36] <Luggage> only use windows for 3d max, photoshop and games that wont run under wine
[14:37] <Luggage> my issue is with win not kubuntu atm if its not an issue with my new hardware pieces (hope not :s)
[14:37] <letourdefrance> Luggage: well...when a simple thing such as wireless notwork does not even work without hours of configuration it seems rather useless
[14:37] <Luggage> lol
[14:37] <Luggage> I guess that has more to do with knowledge about the os?
[14:38] <Luggage> try and get someone who doesn't know squat about win to set up network in win i it doesn't succeed on auto
[14:38] <letourdefrance> Luggage: nahh....its a matter of where you want to put your time...in looking around in luinux trying to figure out how to do the most simple things or actually get some work done
[14:38] <Luggage> the only reason I even have to go into manual configging o my nic in linux is because I need to spoof my mac address (or pay 20,- moving fee.. right...)
[14:40] <letourdefrance> ahhh and i also have trackpoint scroll in windows....not available in linux
[14:40] <Luggage> usually for me editing /etc/network/interaces usually is enough to get the hidden ssid router connected at moms place and here I just need the ifconfig set manual mac address and restart dhcp client and then never have to touch again
[14:40] <llutz> letourdefrance:  <°)))o><   take it and troll away please
[14:41] <letourdefrance> not trolling
[14:41] <letourdefrance> just really disappointed about linux :(
[14:41] <letourdefrance> i had hoped for something better
[14:41] <Luggage> but im not here for a linux win debate, I use both and see both have there uses positives and negatives depending on perspective more than anything else
[14:41] <Luggage> and mostly, my problem is with windows atm not linux which is behaving just fine.
[14:42] <Luggage> but because it concerns grub too I came here since in a win channel most eople react like wt is a grub? lol
[14:43] <letourdefrance> Luggage you use ubuntu?
[14:43] <Luggage> if you were hoping for an autoconfig itself a million hardware pieces pre-supported from setup tan choosing a linux distro was just not smart :)
[14:43] <Luggage> kubuntu
[14:44] <Luggage> kubuntu temporary install is working fine, my problem is win 7 resh install because of new mobo and cpu bsodding
[14:44] <Luggage> but when I ran setup of windows and expected it to kill grub it didn't and I was thinking perhaps its a hint to whats wrong or went wrong or whatever.
[14:45] <Luggage> usually it overwrite the grub loader correct?
[14:45] <bazhang> dual boot win7 and karmic?
[14:45] <llutz> Luggage: its known to do so
[14:45] <Luggage> atm dual boot jaunty and win7, I never had problems untill I rebuilt the pc yesterday with new mobo and cpu
[14:46] <Luggage> ran memtest and a ew other diagnositcs but nothing wrong was ound hardware wise
[14:46] <Luggage> I dont have karmic on c atm, since I was expecting to be able to install 7 fine, then burn the 9.0 to disc and install a fresh koala on linux partition
[14:47] <Luggage> I only have this one temp set up noew because of win7 bsodding and its driving me nuts, I was so looking forward to my upgrade and now feel like throwing the thing rom the balcony.. (been trying to find the problem since last night)
[14:48] <bazhang> Luggage, you have the win7 installer disc?
[14:48] <Luggage> I was supposed to enjoy a glight in flight sim today with the new quadcore not still be busy getting things to work.. it's only the 20th or so machine I've built :s.
[14:48] <Luggage> I got win7 ultimate 64 bit on dvd yep
[14:49] <Luggage> but im still wondering how win 7 did not overwrite grub
[14:49] <Luggage> that was the first hint of not everything being normal so.
[14:49] <bazhang> okay; what I did was backed up important data, used gparted live cd to make partitions for win7 (ntfs) and Karmic, then installed win7 first
[14:49] <Luggage> well I have done the following things succesfully previously before this new hardware
[14:50] <bazhang> win7 installs a weird 100mb bootloader that karmic was having trouble dealing with
[14:50] <Luggage> had xp...  wanted linux to try too, installed kubuntu 9.04 on seperate partition
[14:50] <Luggage> went fine for weeks, then got 7 finally.. formatted xp installed 7 fine... killed bootloader fine as expected
[14:50] <Luggage> booted to live cd, fixed boot loader
[14:51] <Luggage> fine everything running 7 and kubuntu dual boot fine.. weeks later I get new hardware back up
[14:51] <Luggage> built new pc
[14:51] <Luggage> boot from win 7 cd
[14:51] <Luggage> install win 7.. first hint things wrong: grub is still there
[14:51] <Luggage> eh okay.. installed drivers etc win 7 became bsod prone
[14:51] <Luggage> installed kubuntu on other partition again to surf and find help
[14:52] <Luggage> that's where I am, asking how it can be that win 7 didnt kill grub... since its the first hint of whatever is wrong
[14:52] <bazhang> Luggage, I would check the grub factoid as you are with jaunty
[14:53] <bazhang> !grub | Luggage
[14:53] <Luggage> ow and I never update ix win installations or anything always format and fresh
[14:53] <Luggage> well I didn't lose grub after win 7 setup ...
[14:53] <Luggage> i know how to get it back if it is gone as expected
[14:53] <bazhang> should you go for karmic then /msg ubottu grub2 for the wiki link
[14:53] <Luggage> but it was still there, not expected
[14:54] <Luggage> I only mentined NOT losing grub like 3 or 4 times now lol :P
[14:54] <bazhang> I would redo it nonetheless
[14:54] <ghostcube> Luggage: hmm why is it so strange not losing grub with win7
[14:54] <Luggage> I also mentioned already having fixed grub on an another occasion so not knowing how to get grub back isn't the issue.
[14:54] <ghostcube> its not supposed to bekilled by win7
[14:55] <Luggage> acording to the rest o the web it gets killed and with a command or 3 rom live cd you x it after win 7 install?
[14:55] <bazhang> then it sounds like purely a windows issue --> ##windows
[14:55] <Luggage> which I've done beore a ew weeks ago
[14:55] <ghostcube> hmm
[14:55] <Luggage> indeed hmm
[14:55] <ghostcube> i only know win7 can boot linux too from its loader
[14:55] <bazhang> no problems at all dual booting karmic and win7 here.
[14:55] <Luggage> well cant exclude the new hardware competely baz
[14:56] <Luggage> but then I'd expect to see weird things happen in kubuntu now too
[14:56] <ghostcube> i never install doubled i just run windoos on my lappi and linux on my main pc
[14:56] <bazhang> those are limits of my suggestions, I'm afraid, sorry not to be more helpful.
[14:56] <Luggage> if it were ram not seated well or such kubuntu should crash at somepoint too.
[14:56] <ghostcube> no
[14:56] <Luggage> and memcheck shouldnt have had a good run lol
[14:56] <ghostcube> i installed on an damaged intel proz ubuntu
[14:56] <ghostcube> windows striked
[14:56] <Luggage> intel makes ram?
[14:56] <ghostcube> sure
[14:57] <ghostcube> but it wasent ram it was cpu
[14:57] <ghostcube> :)
[14:57] <Luggage> ah but I was talking ram sorry :)
[14:57] <ghostcube> i know but its not supposed to be so stupid like windows it uses the ram even if its damaged
[14:57] <ghostcube> :|
[14:57] <Luggage> ah well.. im thinking about (getting real pc tired lately) quitting pc's lol... im so tired lol
[14:58] <Luggage> well metest checked out fine and th chips are the same as before new motherboard and cpu
[14:58] <Luggage> ah well thanks or the suggestio and thinking with me
[14:58] <Luggage> suggestions
[14:58] <ghostcube> memtest did run how long ?
[14:59] <Luggage> 2 complete cycles... took a few hours
[14:59] <ghostcube> to short
[14:59] <Luggage> nah
[14:59] <ghostcube> sure
[14:59] <Luggage> its the same ram thats been running fine or 1,5 years
[14:59] <Luggage> and so far on borken chips memtest found it in seconds to get the first red flag
[15:00] <Luggage> but think Ill be unplugging the pc anyway later, put it on the table and check everything again
[15:00] <ghostcube> it found for me after one day of test an dmaged chip
[15:00] <Luggage> so if its not seated right will find out then
[15:00] <ghostcube> :)
[15:00] <Luggage> but then still wont explain how it ran yesterday fine
[15:00] <Luggage> and the day before
[15:00] <Luggage> and beore
[15:00] <ghostcube> any kernel update or so ?
[15:00] <Luggage> ad infinitum untill new mobo and cpu and new installation o oses
[15:01] <Luggage> kernel update?
[15:01] <ghostcube> ok now i get it you took new hardware
[15:02] <ghostcube> formated the old hdd
[15:02] <ghostcube> and still the old grub is there ?
[15:02] <Luggage> ah well Im of to get tobacco then I'll likely put the pc on the table and open her up again to check everything
[15:02] <Luggage> yes it was still there
[15:02] <ghostcube> ok then we talk offside each other lol
[15:02] <bradpitt> problem like in this one ? http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264151&page=2
[15:02] <Luggage> win 7 seemed fine with it but after installing some drivers and wanting to begin installing my sotwares it started bsoding and explorer hangs on playing shutdown sound on shutdown
[15:03] <Luggage> ive removed audio drivers (latest from mobo manufacturer) but that didn't remove the problem so I dont think the core problem was audio related despite the eplorer hanging on shtdown sound
[15:03] <austlaw> how do I fix my broken resolution?
[15:03] <Luggage> sorry trying to type faster than I actually can lol
[15:04] <Luggage> well grub is working fine, I just didn't expect it to be there after format and fresh win 7 setup
[15:05] <Luggage> kubuntu seems to be working fine, its just win 7. I never had a problem with it, come new hardware things changed apparently, ah maybe my mobo is just a doa :(
[15:05] <Luggage> I hate problems with new hardware and resh instals, so many variables of what could be the culprit
[15:06] <Luggage> last thing I did before win7 really broke down for some reason was installing daemon tools lite, which I've used or years and never had a problem, not on my previous win 7 install or before
[15:07] <Luggage> but the bootloader not disappearing bothers me, as far as I know it should have been gone. so I see that as clue No 1 to find  whats wrong but google isn't giving much about it except the bootloader dissappeared help me ix it type topics
[15:08] <Luggage> and ill happily explain how to get grub back after win 7 install so thats not the issue, it never disappeared. first reboot after setup from win dvd I got the grub loader like nothing ever happened.
[15:10] <Luggage> ah well be back in  few mins. need tobacco.. cant be without tonight with all the p ixing stress lol
[15:10] <soee> hi
[15:18] <austlaw> how do people use this bad operating system? :|
[15:20] <kaddi> what is so bad about it?
[15:21] <[SilverFox]> hey whats the min pc specs installing kubuntu?
[15:21] <[SilverFox]> would it be less then windows xp or more?
[15:22] <kaddi> it should be less, but let me check
[15:22] <[SilverFox]> ty
[15:22] <kaddi> but if you are looking for something lightweight you shouldn't be using kde
[15:22] <kaddi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[15:22] <[SilverFox]> I guess I should not be using a gui period hehe
[15:23] <[SilverFox]> ubuntu offer none gui install?
[15:23] <kaddi> hehe
[15:23] <avihay> yes, it does
[15:23] <[SilverFox]> The minimum requirements are only likely to allow a server (non-graphical)
[15:23] <[SilverFox]> sweet
[15:23] <kaddi> well if you use xubunu (with gui) you have those specs:
[15:23] <kaddi> # 300 MHz processor # 192 MB of system memory (RAM) # At least 1.5 GB of disk space # VGA graphics card
[15:23] <kaddi> and the server install comes without a gui, I believe
[15:24] <[SilverFox]> ok
[15:25] <kaddi> the "absolute minimal installation" at the botom of the page wants:  # Intel 486 processor # 32 MB of system memory (RAM)  and for an install with gui: Intel Pentium 66 MHz processor
[15:25] <kaddi> 48 MB of system memory
[15:26] <[SilverFox]> nice I think its a 700mhz with like 512 anyways :)
[15:26] <[SilverFox]> this for backups from my webserver
[15:35] <mainiac> :)
[15:35] <mainiac> tagchen
[15:37] <mainiac> ich bin ja nicht blond und glaub auch nicht blöd aber irgendwie peil ich da mit kubuntu karmic koala was nicht
[15:37] <kaddi> hi :)
[15:37] <mainiac> hab mir basilisk2 und pear pc installiert
[15:37] <kaddi> deutsche hilfe gibts leider nur in #kubuntu-de. Das hier ist der englisch support channel ;)
[15:37] <maco> kaddi: wow.
[15:38] <kaddi> it's much less impressive once you know, that I'm actually german ;)
[15:39] <mainiac> and it's very helpfull that i can explain it in english too
[15:39] <funcrush> is it useful in split view of Konsole?
[15:40] <kaddi> hehe, indeed... sadly I had never heard of basilisk2 or pearpc before you mentioned it, so I doubt I'll be able to actually help you with your problem :/
[15:40] <funcrush> is split view useful in Konsole?
[15:40] <mainiac> i've got installed basilisk2 and pear pc on my karmic koala kubuntu
[15:40] <mainiac> but i didn't see it listed on the k menue
[15:41] <kaddi> funcrush: that's probably for you to decide no? It might be useful if you need to compare the contents of two different konsole sessions, but I have never used it
[15:41] <maco> kaddi: ah hehe yes that does...though im generally impressed by people who are fluent in multiple languages. i can get by in a handful of languages, but not fluent
[15:42] <funcrush> kaddi: but 2 views has same session
[15:42] <mainiac> and if i try to get them by run it as command in the shell become i message reply that it can't be found
[15:42] <mainiac> what did i done false
[15:43] <kaddi> mainiac: what do you get if you type apt-cache policy basilisk2 into your command line? Does it say it's installed?
[15:45] <mainiac> basilisk2:
[15:45] <mainiac>   Installiert: 0.9.20070407-2
[15:45] <mainiac>   Kandidat: 0.9.20070407-2
[15:45] <mainiac>   Versions-Tabelle:
[15:45] <mainiac>  *** 0.9.20070407-2 0
[15:45] <FloodBotK3> mainiac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <mainiac> yes it is installed
[15:47] <mainiac> excuse me FloodBotK3 ma bot
[15:47] <mainiac> ^^
[15:47] <kaddi> mainiac: I just installed it and the command BasiliskII works for me. Make you capitalize the B
[15:47] <Guest7147> guys....  listen to me...    how to delete KOPETE and now reinstall!!!   Because it do not login when I input my correct passwort!!!   it is stange!
[15:47] <kaddi> +sure
[15:48] <mainiac> i had it done by rund the Kapage Kit
[15:48] <mainiac> Kpackage Kit
[15:49] <kaddi> Guest7147: if you want to delete kopete and delete ALL your settings, including your logs and logins open command line and run sudo apt-get remove --purge kopete afterwards to install run sudo apt-get install kopete
[15:49] <kaddi> mainiac: that should not make a difference if you want to run it. What command did you try in Konsole
[15:50] <MoscowSindySho> ok  Waiting to me ... I try to do it
[15:51] <mainiac> basilisk2
[15:51] <mainiac> after run command whereis basilisk2
[15:52] <mainiac> which list all file directories who where installed files of it
[15:52] <mainiac> ;)
[15:52] <kaddi> mainiac: the command to start the program is BasiliskII. try using that one and tell me if it works
[15:53] <mainiac> yes it works
[15:53] <MoscowSindySho> I want to use Kopete because    Pidgin is kfucking shit          Do not have function thsat add new friend!!!  do not story history....   and bad big interface
[15:53] <mainiac> and which command did i nead for the pear pc emulation
[15:53] <Pici> MoscowSindySho: Please mind your language here.
[15:54] <MoscowSindySho> OK
[15:55] <genii> !language | MoscowSindySho
[15:55] <kaddi> mainiac: it could be this command: ppc
[15:55] <mainiac> must go thx for help
[15:56] <MoscowSindySho> GUYS     Man write message to me and this message have ROT colowr....    what should to do that I write RED message to ubotto for example
[15:56] <kaddi> your welcome
[15:56] <mainiac> kaddi yes works thx
[15:56] <kaddi> MoscowSindySho: the red colour means that someone wrote your name, it is highlighted so you know that the message is meant for you
[15:56] <MoscowSindySho> I want to speak english
[15:58] <MoscowSindySho> YES I know that he wrot to me....      But what string he wrote that this message was red?  "<kaddi> hello!"?
   hello
[15:59] <genii> MoscowSindySho: BECAUSE he wrote to you it was red, for you. When someone writes to him, it's red for HIM
[15:59] <kaddi> your name
[15:59] <kaddi>    hello this is red for me, because you wrote my name in it
[15:59] <MoscowSindySho> !!! yes
[16:03] <MoscowSindySho> but I need to copy your name and past after....  It is not gut.... I click on your name to do it .... but it open new tab
[16:04] <MoscowSindySho> If I "drag and drop" your name to input-text-field ?   it will work?
[16:04] <genii> MoscowSindySho: Just type in the first few letters of their name and then hit the TAB key, it will make the whole name for you
[16:05] <MoscowSindySho> genii ok
[16:15] <MoscowSindySho> Are there any GIRLS in this chat
[16:15] <MoscowSindySho> ??
[16:18] <MoscowSindySho> yes... only guys
[16:18] <MoscowSindySho> and gays
[16:19] <Pici> MoscowSindySho: This is the Ubuntu Support channel, not a dating service.  Please try to stay on-topic.  You may also want to take a look at our https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:21] <deokanon> i'm getting a lot of subscription requests in empathy (hotmail)...i'm probably being paranoid but what could someone with a ID like this want with me
[16:21] <deokanon> keshiadimauroddm@hotmail.com
[16:21] <deokanon> doesn't soudn too real
[16:22] <MoscowSindySho> people...  know somebody IRC server name    to talk with girls..... not only about kubuntu
[16:23] <deokanon> is there a possible security issue with empathy?
[16:25] <kaddi> deokanon: this kind of spam is available for all instant messaging protocols I'm afraid. I don't know about empathy and the security of it. But I get connection request from hot lonely russian girls who want to show me their pictures on skype, icq and msn all the time, independent of what client I'm using
[16:28] <deokanon> thanks kaddi
[16:32] <BluesKaj> can you guys recommend a flv player , for some reason my browsers won't play a DL'd flv file , it'll play the embedded version on the website , but the video has now been taken off that page .
[16:34] <kaddi> BluesKaj: I think vlc can play them, not sure though
[16:34] <BluesKaj> kaddi, vlc plays the audio portion but not the video , unfortunately
[17:09] <sergio_> hi
[17:09] <sergio_> )
[17:17] <cheeko> hi :)
[17:19] <jhutchins_lt> :v ltsp-server
[17:19] <jhutchins_lt> !v ltsp-server
[17:21] <apparle> hi guys...
[17:24] <apparle> its pretty silent here.... it seems kubuntu seems to have become quite stable
[17:26] <cheeko> no dude just tht people dont find bugs anymore
[17:27] <apparle> guys I don't know what the problem is I just can't goto recovery... whenever I select recovery mode it shows me lots of options but then hangs there and keyboard doesn't respond
[17:27] <apparle> cheeko: Actually I found one...
[17:28] <apparle> I can't install superkaramba widget from the download widgets window.... it downloads and shows its installed but I can't see it in widget list
[17:31] <BluesKaj> well ,time for my daily walk ...seeing that it's clear and sunny ..finally
[17:31] <BluesKaj> BBL
[17:37] <Krezkey> Hi BluesKaj
[17:38] <giuseppe_> lve
[17:38] <giuseppe_> salve
[17:40] <foooba> Hello
[17:40] <foooba> today is my first kubub#ntu using day :)
[17:40] <Krezkey> hi foooba
[17:41] <Krezkey> how do you like it
[17:41] <foooba> its nice :)
[17:41] <Krezkey> I find it pretty cool. I myself have only been playing with it for 3 weeks
[17:41] <giuseppe_> la vs list x favore
[17:42] <apparle> hey.... who decideds the xsplash for kubuntu
[17:42] <foooba> i have a question about mysql. I try to start OpenBravoPOS but it didnt start, because the pointofsale programm need a mysql.
[17:42] <apparle> I mean if I have to suggest somethign new the how to
[17:43] <foooba> i install mysql but where can i find the class, url, mysql driver
[17:43] <foooba> and so on?
[17:43] <alexander_> is there any good dvd rip programm i can get?
[17:43] <foooba> i install mysql with apt-get
[17:43] <Krezkey> I can't help on either of those ...sorry
[17:44] <Krezkey> still a newbee myself
[17:44] <foooba> k
[17:45] <foooba> i hope someone else. its a big chat
[17:45] <Krezkey> hang around on here for a while...I'm sure someone will pick up on your questions
[17:46] <apparle> alexander_: I have heard of kdvdrip but never used it
[17:46] <apparle> alexander_: check on kde-apps.org
[17:47] <alexander_> thanks
[17:47] <bazhang> !info k9copy
[17:49] <foooba> http://wiki.openbravo.com/wiki/OpenbravoPOS_Installation#On_Ubuntu_2  < i was on this step but didnt know the driver libary and so on.
[17:49] <Krezkey> anyone ever use wine...have a question
[17:50] <bazhang> Krezkey, please clarify
[17:51] <Krezkey> I  just installed it and when I try to access the C: drive it makes system tells me it does not exist
[17:51] <bazhang> Krezkey, which application
[17:52] <Krezkey> Wine version 1.1.33
[17:52] <bazhang> Krezkey, installed via repositories, or wine repos
[17:52] <Krezkey> installed the .deb file
[17:53] <bazhang> Krezkey, from where
[17:53] <Krezkey> from wine site
[17:53] <bazhang> Krezkey, some reason not to use package management system to install?
[17:54] <Krezkey> not totally sure how to use alot of things in Kubuntu yet.....sorry
[17:54] <Krezkey> still a newbee
[17:55] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install wine    from the konsole would do it
[17:55] <Krezkey> still learning that kind of stuff
[17:55] <bazhang> then check the appdb to see if your application will run
[17:55] <bazhang> !appdb
[17:56] <jhutchins_lt> Anybody here running ltsp?
[17:56] <Krezkey> maybe need a restart of system ?
[17:57] <Krezkey> so long on windows this is all strang to me with installs and settings....what a mess
[17:58] <bazhang> Krezkey, dont think so
[17:58] <Krezkey> maybe to old to relearn this stuff...lol
[17:58] <bazhang> Krezkey, good rule of thumb: always look in the ubuntu software repositories first before getting applications from 3rd party websites
[17:59] <Krezkey> I will remember that.
[17:59] <bazhang> Krezkey, what application are you trying to run with wine
[17:59] <Krezkey> just some small games and a photo editing program
[17:59] <vbgunz> I have an extreme boatload of fonts... I do not remember ever explicitly installing a font package. I think this may have something to do with a Windows package or the like, not sure. anyone know about a package that does this?
[18:00] <bazhang> Krezkey, head over to that website, and type in the name of your applications; alternately there may well be Ubuntu native ones to handle what you wish
[18:01] <vbgunz> I just checked kpackagekit and see I have 25 font packages...
[18:01] <maco> the 3 ttf-larabie packages install 300 fonts....maybe you have those? thatd make an extreme boatload
[18:01] <maco> a handful are installed by default for language coverage
[18:01] <vbgunz> what fonts do I need as if I had a fresh install of kubuntu 9.04?
[18:01] <Krezkey> bazhang, I have kubuntu on a usb hd. more to learn about it than run every day.
[18:01] <vbgunz> 9.10*
[18:02] <Krezkey> still on XP on internal hd
[18:02] <Krezkey> ok , thanks
[18:03] <Krezkey> how do you get the colored strip on your replys to me ?
[18:03] <bazhang> Krezkey, if you would tell me the name of the apps, I could check if there are ubuntu equivalents
[18:05] <Krezkey> the game is total annihilation
[18:06] <Krezkey> and photo program is called ACDC
[18:06] <Krezkey> sorry ACDSee
[18:07] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7306 Krezkey it rates as gold, runs excellently
[18:07] <Krezkey> and a windows addon called desktop sidebar
[18:09] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=573156 acdsee alternatives
[18:09] <Krezkey> what rates as gold ?
[18:09] <bazhang> total annihilation: check link above
[18:09] <Krezkey> cool
[18:09] <Roasted> whats up guys?
[18:10] <bazhang> Roasted, hi
[18:10] <Krezkey> Cool I love that old game. thanks bazhang
[18:11] <Roasted> just curious - has anybody had any issues with the broadcom STA driver on Karmic? My issue is "fixed" I suppose, but I was curious. I was on kernel .14 with broadcom STA and I kept getting kernel panics. Plugged in wire, upgraded to latest kernel I could grab (.16 I believe) and now the Broadcom STA was fine. Just curious if anybody else saw this too.
[18:13] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91401 desktop sidebar alternatives
[18:16] <Krezkey> bazhang, thanks for all the help. would have never found that info so fast myself
[18:16] <bazhang> Krezkey, kde4 has a ton of widgets though , so that link may not be necessary
[18:17] <bazhang> Krezkey, generally just ubuntu/kubuntu desktop sidebar will have ubuntuforums link as the top recipient (for example)
[18:17] <Krezkey> yeah but all the widgets are not on one panel...and never seem to stay where I am putting them on desktop
[18:18] <bazhang> Krezkey, there is conky as well, but not used to kde4 so some other users may wish to advise
[18:19] <Krezkey> maybe I will stop back in later...have some stuff to do right now. just stopped in to get a lil help and let some guys know I fixed my other problem from yesterday
[18:21] <Krezkey> thanks for all the help and info guys. hope someday I can be helpful to someone also :)
[18:21] <Krezkey> ttyl
[18:28] <Pici> tsimpson: thanks, I should have done it here too.
[18:28] <tsimpson> :)
[18:35] <simo_> hello every body
[18:35] <kaddi> hi
[18:36] <simo_> how can i write a php's code in linux
[18:36] <simo_> i have install a apache2 and php
[18:36] <simo_> 5
[18:39] <mizzjlou> yo
[18:41] <simo_> some one work with php ??
[18:44] <compilerwriter> anyone using the chrome browser.  Is it in the repos or should I just get the deb package and try it?
[18:45] <bazhang> !chromium
[18:45] <bazhang> compilerwriter, ^^
[18:45] <compilerwriter> thanks bazhang
[18:55] <albert> hi all
[18:55] <albert> i want only to ask, how's it possible to install kde 4.4 for karmic?
[18:55] <bennywine> Hello everyone! Does anyone know GRUB really well? I have a really weird problem
[19:04] <BanHammor> Could one tell me why my Mint turned into Kubuntu?
[19:07] <gspr_> Hmm, is the behaviour of update-notifier-kde where it disappears after briefly alerting about updates intentional?
[19:07] <gspr_> Is there some way to reset the old behaviour, where an icon persists in case of updates?
[19:22] <Roasted> hey guys - question - on kubuntu karmic, and my panel has like two very thin rows of open applications. I only want 1 row. I even selected "force row settings - max rows = 1" and I still have 2 rows :(
[19:24] <Roasted> cancel that - I got it :)
[19:28] <soee> how can i chabge my desktop font?
[19:28] <soee> *change
[19:40] <Mamarok> soee: SystemSettings -> Appearance -> Fonts
[19:41] <soee> Mamarok: thnx, iv got it already
[19:41] <Mamarok> nice :)
[19:44] <eviljoker> hi, I have this problem:  gcc: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program as)
[19:44] <eviljoker> what can I do?
[19:47] <genii> eviljoker: To pastebin the last 10-20 lines of the compiler output might have more info
[19:48] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[19:48] <ozzy> Hello all, I have a problem in that I can't mount my windows 7 (ntfs) partition on startup. I have installed and configured fuse - edited fstab and changed permissions of /bin/mount and /bin/umount. I still get the same error "only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /mnt/WINDOWS"
[19:50] <ozzy> anyone?
[19:52] <BanHammor> Can anone help me?
[19:52] <ozzy>  with what?
[19:52] <BanHammor> How is a theme changed normally?
[19:53] <ozzy> right click on the desktop
[19:53] <BanHammor> And why can't I add more than 2 desktops?
[19:53] <ozzy> then dekstop settings
[19:53] <ozzy> you can
[19:53] <ozzy> let me just find out where (can't remember off the top of my head)
[19:54] <ozzy> ready? go to the menu ->applications -> settings -> system settings -> multiple desktops
[19:55] <ozzy> and increase the number of desktops
[19:59] <pratik_narain> why kwin crashes after 2.6.31-16 kernel update
[20:02] <kidney> what is keryx
[20:04] <gehzumteufel> Anyone around?
[20:05] <soee> sup?
[20:05] <kidney> yup
[20:06] <gehzumteufel> You know much with regards to getting network setup?
[20:06] <kidney> you can go on
[20:10] <pratik_narain> kwin crashes after 2.6.31-16 kernel update, any solutions??
[20:12] <gehzumteufel> So I have a machine fully setup with the exception of the WMP300N wireless adapter
[20:12] <gehzumteufel> I can't detect any networks at all
[20:12] <gehzumteufel> It is for some reason assigned as the eth2 as opposed to wlan0
[20:13] <gehzumteufel> It shows up in infconfig, lspci, etc, but I just can't get wireless to work
[20:13] <gehzumteufel> ifconfig*
[20:13] <soee> sorry i dont know how to help u with this :/
[20:14] <gehzumteufel> Yeah I can't find anything on it either
[20:14] <kidney> gehzumteufel: try #ubuntu
[20:15] <gehzumteufel> cool thanks
[20:16] <phant0m_> can someone pls help me with these results of my firewall i seem to be attracting someone using netbus
[20:29] <kidney> phant0m_: try #ubuntu
[20:30] <phant0m_> ok ty
[20:37] <g__> Just wondering how do you uninstall the latest updates they have messed my computer I can no longer select my knetwork wireless
[20:42] <Mamarok> Total Estimated Cost to Develop                           = $ 6,097,002, only Amarok 2, without Artwork
[20:42] <Mamarok> oops, wrong chan, sorry :(
[20:50] <bradshaw> Hello
[20:50] <bradshaw> How do I go about just reinstalling kde?
[21:20] <gspr_> Hmm, is the behaviour of update-notifier-kde where it disappears after briefly alerting about updates intentional?
[21:21] <gspr_> Is there some way to reset the old behaviour, where an icon persists in case of updates?
[21:24] <lale> slm
[21:29] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[21:45] <Cookiekiller> hey everyone I habe some trouble with flash under karmic x86, I have in the whole system sound and flash works well but I miss the sound while playing z.B. videos on youtube usw. I receive some errors if I start firefox in xterm http://fpaste.org/th6Y/ , I'm thinking about I miss a lib but don't know which librabry,
[21:45] <Cookiekiller> have*
[22:00] <Shaxor> Hay there people!. Does anyone know if theres a problems with the M-audio drivers?
[22:00] <Shaxor> Hay there people!. Does anyone know if theres a problems with the M-audio drivers?
[22:23] <wesley> hello I have a harddrive which I own, but I have not enough permissions, how can I force whole harddrive to be owned by my user
[22:28] <wesley> my dev is /dev/sdb2 and its a ext4 and now I want to mount it so that its really owned by me
[22:30] <||arifaX> when I move my mouse out of my screen (to the right) the cursor is gone and mouse does no longer work. I have to logoff/logon then it works again. this only happens when effects are on. any idea. I have a virtual desktop if 3360x1050 to make it possible to dynamically attach a second monitor
[22:31] <||arifaX> I also have no input device section in xorg.conf since this is done automatically now
[22:33] <||arifaX> ...now I lost it
[22:35] <idyle> Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a totally random problem where my machine beeps uncontrollably SOMETIMES on shutdown. I believe it says something about init not being killed, but I am not sure -- how can I find the text and diagnose what's causing this?
[22:37] <ath_> trying to downgrade from ubuntu to jaunty via aptitude, but have met a problem and am unsure what to do: http://pastebin.com/m3e4952e2
[22:38] <ath_> from *karmic koala
[22:40] <wesley> why wont someone help me?
[22:41] <ath_> wesley, man chown
[22:42] <wesley> /dev/sdb2 and then? I need the whole command
[22:42] <ath_> the command you need is 'man chown'
[22:42] <ath_> read what it says
[22:44] <wesley> okay but what do I need to do?
[22:47] <wesley> sudo chown -f... wesley : wesley /dev/sdb2
[22:47] <wesley> thats what I have but wont work
[22:48] <ath_> try /dev/sdb2/*
[22:48] <ath_> df
[22:48] <ath_> nog
[22:48] <ath_> df
[22:48] <FloodBotK1> ath_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <ath_> wesley, mount the disk first. mount /dev/sdb2, then whever it's mounted, for example, if it were /mnt/hd1, type chown -f /mnt/hd1/*
[22:49] <wesley> what about my username?
[22:49] <ath_> what about it?
[22:49] <wesley> I wanna own so it needs to change to my username ( wesley )
[22:50] <ath_> as i said, read the manual page for chown, it explains how the binary works
[22:50] <wesley> we not all so smart that we understand that
[22:50] <wesley> I know in irc they can just give me the command what I need
[22:51] <ath_> okay wesley , the command you need is chown -Rf wesley /mnt/whereveryourhddismounted
[22:52] <Ranarama> Is it hard to setup WoW to run in Kubuntu?
[22:52] <wesley> not really
[22:52] <wesley> it even works with intel gma
[22:53] <wesley> just surf to winehq
[22:55] <wesley> ath_ now I still not own that hd
[22:56] <ath_> chown -Rf wesley /mnt/whereveryourhddismounted/*
[23:00] <wesley> bah it gives errors
[23:07] <islington> anyone have any idea when kde 4.4 packages will be availible for testing in Karmic?
[23:08] <rstob911> islington: distrowatch and get the test release of ubuntu
[23:09] <islington> what?
[23:10] <ath_> islington: http://distrowatch.com/
[23:11] <Ranarama> I've downloaded a file in Firefox, but when I choose to open the folder it's in, I only get to choose which application to open it with? Where do I find the folder?
[23:11] <rstob911> Ranarama: /home/downloads
[23:12] <islington> ath rstob911I know the website, so will kde 4.4 package be availible for karmic?
[23:12] <Vroomfondle> 4.4 is a new release, so presumably not
[23:12] <Vroomfondle> but possibly as a backport?
[23:13] <rstob911> islington: i dont know but from what i have been reading no 4.4 will need the next generation kernel
[23:13] <rstob911> and still has alot of issues
[23:14] <albert__> hi all
[23:14] <albert__> is it possible to install kde 4.4 beta on karmic?
[23:14] <islington> albert__: I just asked that
[23:15] <albert__> and? what's the answer?
[23:15] <islington> rstob911: hmm. Well then I guess I will wait for lucid
[23:15] <albert__> ;]
[23:16] <islington> albert__: according to rstob911: i dont know but from what i have been reading no 4.4 will need the next generation kernel
[23:16] <islington> and still has alot of issues
[23:16] <albert__> lucid will be released in ?
[23:16] <albert__> march? later?
[23:16] <bazhang> April
[23:16] <bazhang> 10.04
[23:18] <albert__> oh, right
[23:18] <albert__> thanks, take care
[23:24] <perakus> helo i have a problem, i have a ext4 partition , and i like to mount automatlly,, in fstab have this line : /dev/sda7 /media/NeVeRa ext3 rw,user 0 0
[23:24] <perakus> and don't like it xDD
[23:33] <yofel> perakus: you do realize that you have 'ext3' written in your fstab?
[23:34] <yofel> perakus: you can't mount an ext4 partition as ext3
[23:34] <perakus> OMG
[23:35] <perakus> lol one moment !!
[23:36] <perakus> wow is this xDD
[23:36] <yofel> ^^
[23:47] <nomaS> how can i connect by remote desktop to win
[23:48] <duryodhan> Hi .. I installed the kubuntu netbook edition, I was wondering if I could now change it to the default kubuntu desktop version .. I am not really happy with it
[23:54] <nomaS> nevermind i found
[23:55] <rosa> is any howto for KDE SC 4.4?
[23:56] <bert__> how do u search for channels
[23:56] <bazhang> bert__, /msg alis list *term*
[23:57] <yofel> rosa: as in? get kde4.4 for 9.10 ?
[23:58] <bert__> term
[23:58] <bert__> ??
[23:58] <bert__> list
[23:58] <bert__> sorry guy just learning