| baniirachan | Damn, tinypic is slow today or my internet sucks | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| baniirachan | http://i50.tinypic.com/2d1s9ox.png | 00:04 |
| baniirachan | In the pic, you can see where the task panel is | 00:04 |
| baniirachan | But the movie player won't go FULL screen. | 00:04 |
| baniirachan | And that's where you can see the gap in the back with the other windows behind it | 00:05 |
| knome | hmm, weird | 00:05 |
| baniirachan | I can't maximize ANY window to occupy the full screen | 00:05 |
| knome | baniirachan, what happens when you press F11? | 00:05 |
| baniirachan | I get same result | 00:05 |
| knome | okay.. | 00:05 |
| knome | that's really weird | 00:05 |
| knome | which xubuntu version are you running? | 00:06 |
| baniirachan | I believe it's the latest, 9.10 | 00:06 |
| knome | 'lsb_release -a' in terminal, please :) | 00:07 |
| baniirachan | Distributor ID:Ubuntu | 00:08 |
| baniirachan | Description:Ubuntu 9.10.1 | 00:08 |
| baniirachan | Release:9.10 | 00:08 |
| baniirachan | Codename:koala | 00:08 |
| knome | okay | 00:08 |
| knome | have you changed the theme? (the default is dark) | 00:09 |
| baniirachan | No, theme is the same | 00:09 |
| baniirachan | So far, everything is still default. | 00:09 |
| knome | this is an upgrade? | 00:09 |
| baniirachan | No, clean install | 00:09 |
| knome | are you sure you are not running gnome? | 00:09 |
| baniirachan | How would I know the difference? I installed straight from xubuntu live disk and it says "let xfce manage windows" | 00:10 |
| baniirachan | Plus I don't have any gnome apps. | 00:10 |
| knome | baniirachan, well, i wonder this because as i said, the default xubuntu theme for 9.10 is dark. can you pastebin your 'ps -A' ? | 00:11 |
| knome | (or alternatively, see if there is xfce4-session) | 00:11 |
| knome | that does look like xfce, but it's still weird :) | 00:11 |
| baniirachan | http://pastebin.ca/1710346 | 00:12 |
| baniirachan | I didn't find xfce4-session verbatim | 00:12 |
| knome | yes, that is xfce | 00:13 |
| knome | the process to look after was xfwm4, my mistake :) | 00:13 |
| baniirachan | Ah, np | 00:13 |
| baniirachan | One thing I should mention | 00:14 |
| knome | okay? :) | 00:14 |
| baniirachan | Is that it's running on a dell inspiron | 00:14 |
| baniirachan | But I'm using an external monitor | 00:14 |
| knome | hmm | 00:14 |
| baniirachan | A viewsonic 19" | 00:14 |
| knome | that might be the cause | 00:14 |
| baniirachan | Everytime I try to change resolution though | 00:14 |
| baniirachan | It goes out to no signal | 00:14 |
| knome | does it look like the are that totem is taking is the resolution of the dell? | 00:14 |
| knome | (the dell is supposedly widescreen, but the viewsonic not?) | 00:15 |
| baniirachan | Both are not widescreen | 00:15 |
| knome | hmm... | 00:15 |
| baniirachan | This inspiron is ome 7 years old | 00:15 |
| baniirachan | *ome | 00:15 |
| baniirachan | **some | 00:15 |
| knome | is the resolution same on both displays? | 00:15 |
| baniirachan | Which is why I put Xubuntu on it ;) | 00:15 |
| baniirachan | I don't know. I'm using an external because the monitor in the inspiron is dead | 00:16 |
| baniirachan | How would I test that? | 00:16 |
| knome | a-ha.. :) | 00:16 |
| knome | don't know. | 00:16 |
| knome | it's a weird situation | 00:16 |
| knome | totem clearly think it's on a widescreen monitor | 00:16 |
| knome | +s | 00:16 |
| knome | have you tried other media players, like vlc? | 00:17 |
| baniirachan | Is there any way | 00:17 |
| knome | do they do the same? | 00:17 |
| baniirachan | Well it's not just totem like I aid | 00:17 |
| knome | oh, right | 00:17 |
| baniirachan | *said | 00:17 |
| baniirachan | It's all | 00:17 |
| baniirachan | Window | 00:17 |
| knome | exactly | 00:17 |
| baniirachan | *Windows, damn this S key | 00:17 |
| baniirachan | Yeah | 00:17 |
| knome | what does applications -> settings -> display say? | 00:17 |
| al2cand | I would like anyone to give me a good address on how to install applications to my xubuntu... I am total beginner and used windows since born... | 00:17 |
| baniirachan | But uh, yeah. Is there any way to perhaps remove the Dell display | 00:17 |
| knome | al2cand, in the applications menu, do you see a "add/remove applications" link? | 00:18 |
| baniirachan | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware | 00:18 |
| baniirachan | @al2cand | 00:18 |
| al2cand | yes | 00:18 |
| knome | al2cand, well, try that... :) | 00:19 |
| baniirachan | Btw, the resolution just says default | 00:19 |
| knome | baniirachan, right | 00:19 |
| knome | !resolution | 00:19 |
| ubottu | The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution | 00:19 |
| baniirachan | But is there any way I could stop Xubuntu from detecting the Dell monitor? | 00:19 |
| baniirachan | I think that would help | 00:19 |
| knome | baniirachan, see the latest link. i think setting the native resolution of the external monitor in the x configuration file could help | 00:19 |
| al2cand | ok, i would have tought there would exit some kind of executable into the .zip application downloaded | 00:19 |
| knome | baniirachan, i don't think so... | 00:20 |
| baniirachan | I'm sure there is. Just neither one of us knows how =P | 00:20 |
| knome | baniirachan, but you could try the x conf file method | 00:20 |
| baniirachan | I'm a script noob | 00:20 |
| baniirachan | I will shortly. Thx | 00:20 |
| knome | baniirachan, i'm totally not a linux noob, but just can't think of any easy solution for that. | 00:20 |
| baniirachan | I didn't say you were. | 00:20 |
| knome | hehe, i didn't say you said :) | 00:21 |
| baniirachan | Alrighty | 00:21 |
| knome | just to mention it's probably not easy/usual to do that | 00:21 |
| dunix | baniirachan, what kinda vid card do you have? what driver are you using? | 00:21 |
| knome | i've never bumped into this kind of situation earlier | 00:21 |
| knome | al2cand, which application are you trying to install? | 00:22 |
| baniirachan | I'm using a mobile radeon 7500 lol | 00:23 |
| al2cand | iria, OOo, xpaint ... I am currently donaloading the new apps via the add application section | 00:23 |
| baniirachan | And it's the standard xorg ati driver | 00:23 |
| knome | al2cand, yes, that's the way it's supposed to be done in ubuntu(linux) | 00:23 |
| djura-san | will xubuntu 9.10 lts include xfce 4.? is there any plan for that? | 00:23 |
| knome | al2cand, you shouldn't need to download any files manually :) | 00:23 |
| djura-san | hello 2 all | 00:23 |
| djura-san | :D | 00:23 |
| djura-san | *xfce 4.8 | 00:24 |
| dunix | you mean 10.04? | 00:24 |
| djura-san | yeah | 00:24 |
| knome | djura-san, 10.04 is the next lts, probably it'll have 4.6, unless 4.8 is released really soon and is really bugfree, which i doubt. | 00:24 |
| djura-san | ok | 00:24 |
| knome | we want as stable LTS as possible | 00:24 |
| djura-san | it should be released (xfce 4.8) in q1 2010 | 00:24 |
| knome | so we are not risking it with too fresh stuff | 00:24 |
| djura-san | ooo | 00:25 |
| djura-san | so you are xubuntu devs? | 00:25 |
| knome | djura-san, i know, i'm in contact with the xfce devs also | 00:25 |
| knome | djura-san, yes, i'm the marketing lead | 00:25 |
| djura-san | nice to meet you :) | 00:25 |
| knome | djura-san, nice to meet you too | 00:25 |
| djura-san | so i have another question: will 10.04 include gimp? | 00:25 |
| djura-san | i now that ubuntu will not | 00:25 |
| knome | djura-san, not by default | 00:25 |
| djura-san | aha | 00:25 |
| knome | djura-san, it will stay in the repositories, i suppose | 00:26 |
| knome | (why wouldn't it...) | 00:26 |
| djura-san | and i have a lot of other questions... i used xubuntu for a long time but without interent (yeah, it is pain GREAT pain) | 00:26 |
| knome | heh, okay, feel free to ask | 00:27 |
| djura-san | why totem over mplayer? Mplayer has its own firefox plugin, mplayer is beter than totem (personal xp). I had many times errors with totem playing some clips | 00:28 |
| djura-san | besides that is uses gstreamer | 00:28 |
| knome | totem has been the default for a long time | 00:28 |
| djura-san | i know | 00:29 |
| knome | for the lts we are probably not going to change that | 00:29 |
| knome | but after that, we might switch to parole, which is a new xfce media/video player | 00:29 |
| knome | (and probably will do that, if the development of parole is continued) | 00:29 |
| djura-san | i used it a little in fedora 12 but not enough... | 00:30 |
| knome | it's not ready to be the default player yet | 00:30 |
| knome | djura-san, there is a conversation going about the default application choices in xubuntu-devel mailing list (see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2009-December/thread.html, thread "idea for lucid...") | 00:31 |
| djura-san | so form your pow, why is totem favored over mplayer? I mean mplayer plays all possible codecs so i always asked myself why totem? Gxine was good but mplayer never failed in any task+ you can convert/extract files in mplayer | 00:31 |
| djura-san | okay i will check it out | 00:31 |
| knome | djura-san, you can also subscribe the list and give your own opinions if you're interested | 00:32 |
| knome | well, i think it's just inherited again and again and there hasn't been any concerns about changing | 00:32 |
| knome | also totem is quite a basic player, which is always ++ for a default xubuntu application | 00:33 |
| djura-san | okay | 00:33 |
| djura-san | what about bluetooth? | 00:33 |
| djura-san | any chance to get that by default? | 00:33 |
| djura-san | its only 1-2mb | 00:33 |
| knome | that's an interesting question | 00:33 |
| knome | maybe if it was working a bit better? | 00:34 |
| djura-san | how so? | 00:34 |
| al2cand | thanks knome | 00:34 |
| knome | al2cand, no problem | 00:35 |
| knome | djura-san, we don't want to ship broken packages | 00:35 |
| djura-san | it works enough to use it on everyday basis. | 00:35 |
| knome | djura-san, maybe you should propose that on the -devel list | 00:35 |
| knome | djura-san, i have no answers on why it is not installed | 00:35 |
| djura-san | yeah. im kinda new to mailing lists so i will try to use it more :) | 00:36 |
| knome | djura-san, when you've subscribed, just send mail to xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com and it will be forwarded to anybody on the list | 00:36 |
| knome | djura-san, also, you'll get all the messages sent to that address | 00:37 |
| djura-san | okay | 00:37 |
| djura-san | so it basically is a e-mail collector that ships all mails to my inbox? | 00:37 |
| knome | djura-san, kind of yeah. | 00:37 |
| knome | djura-san, only that it ships them to everybody on the list | 00:38 |
| knome | djura-san, that's how the lists work | 00:38 |
| djura-san | well its simple | 00:38 |
| djura-san | anyway | 00:38 |
| knome | it is :) | 00:38 |
| djura-san | you will continue to include office on alternate disc? Im using desktop edition now but i really hate desktop installer and lack of oo.org so i will start transmission | 00:40 |
| knome | djura-san, openoffice.org will not be included by default, but you can always install it from the repositories, naturally | 00:41 |
| knome | abiword and gnumeric(?) will continue being installed by default | 00:41 |
| djura-san | i know that but in previous releases there was oo on alternate disk. Is it on 9.10? | 00:41 |
| knome | djura-san, if openoffice has been on any cd, that's been a bug. | 00:42 |
| al2cand | is there a way to install OOo via a zipfile on my usb without having to download it again through add apps. | 00:42 |
| knome | djura-san, if i am correct. :) | 00:42 |
| knome | al2cand, i suppose there is, but installing through add applications is safer if you are not exactly sure what you are doing | 00:43 |
| djura-san | knome, there was oo in xubuntu alternate disk. i used it to install xubuntu on offline computers (dont remeber version of xubuntus). I should check my cd rack | 00:44 |
| al2cand | ok, I'm not.. so I'll keep it simple | 00:44 |
| knome | djura-san, oh, right. i'm not sure about that. | 00:44 |
| knome | djura-san, i haven't used the alternate cd myself | 00:44 |
| djura-san | thank you for answers :) | 00:45 |
| knome | no problem, happy to help you | 00:45 |
| djura-san | oh yeah: why there are no text editors with syntax highlight in xubuntu? Mousepad is good but its like notepad. Are there plans to use some other editor? | 00:48 |
| knome | djura-san, syntax highlighting is not a totally trivial thing to include to a text editor. gedit does that, but it's a bit too heavy for a text editor, we think. i've been asking the xfce devs to include bg/fg color changing support for mousepad for start | 00:50 |
| knome | then maybe later they'll add syntax highlighting, but i know that's not high on their priority list | 00:50 |
| knome | also the xubuntu developers do not have the time to do that | 00:50 |
| djura-san | i know | 00:51 |
| djura-san | its up to xfce devs | 00:51 |
| knome | if they did have that much time, they'd probably use it to even more important things :) | 00:51 |
| knome | yeah, it's been discussed lately | 00:51 |
| dunix | vim is all you need! ;P | 00:51 |
| knome | they have a new branch of the mousepad code, if i have understood correctly | 00:51 |
| knome | not sure when that is going to be public, though | 00:51 |
| al2cand | how to make my system take charge of python gtkgelxt and opengl | 01:09 |
| knome | al2cand, sorry? | 01:10 |
| al2cand | i just tried to launch chess on 3d mode and it wont allow cause my system is not equipped of python opengl and python gtkgelxt | 01:11 |
| knome | al2cand, i suppose you have to go to synaptic for those packages | 01:12 |
| knome | al2cand, applications->system->synaptic package manager | 01:12 |
| al2cand | :) | 01:13 |
| djura-san | al2cand, sudo apt-get install python-gtkglext1 python-opengl | 01:16 |
| djura-san | i think | 01:16 |
| djura-san | wait to try it | 01:16 |
| djura-san | yap | 01:16 |
| djura-san | it works | 01:17 |
| djura-san | (and its ugly) :D | 01:17 |
| al2cand | i found the opengl on the list but not the gtkgelxt, it might work with the first one only though | 01:19 |
| al2cand | i dont know what 'sudo apt-get' mean | 01:20 |
| knome | al2cand, that was a command you were supposed to type in a terminal | 01:20 |
| djura-san | al2cand, open terminal and paste this "sudo apt-get install python-gtkglext1 python-opengl" | 01:20 |
| djura-san | enter you password and enjoy | 01:20 |
| djura-san | "sudo" is (one way) to get admin privileges and "apt-get" is package manager for console. | 01:21 |
| al2cand | ok this all makes alot of sense, your help is appreciated | 01:27 |
| djura-san | you are welcome | 01:27 |
| al2cand | I just found out the 'working space splits we can perform with xubuntu, that's nice :) | 01:31 |
| djura-san | what? | 01:31 |
| djura-san | dont get it :) | 01:32 |
| al2cand | application/parameter/working spaces (names might be different my xubuntu is french | 01:32 |
| djura-san | still cant found that | 01:33 |
| djura-san | *find | 01:33 |
| al2cand | I am talking about the possibility to left click on the bottom right side of the desktop on the black/white squares to switch from destop 1 to desktop2 | 01:34 |
| djura-san | aha | 01:36 |
| djura-san | scroll works too :) | 01:36 |
| al2cand | ok nice :) | 01:37 |
| mizery | Xorg/xfce/desktop environment freezes after some time of usage. What log file can I check to find out what is causing freeze? I am logged in remotely. | 02:01 |
| djura-san | /var/log/xorg | 02:01 |
| djura-san | please give us more info about freezes: after what time it starts and "how" it freezes (totally or...)? | 02:03 |
| mizery | I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkMultifuncPrinters and at step 9 I added ` cd /usr/lib; ln -sf libstdc++.so.6 libstdc++.so.5` and output of `/usr/lib/cups/backend/z600` is http://pastebin.com/d3aca6643 -- Without the symbolic link, output is "/usr/lib/cups/backend/z600: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file | 02:13 |
| mizery | or directory" -- How can I configure my system to recognize a Dell a920 printer (lexmark z600 series?) | 02:13 |
| mizery | Regarding the freezes, /var/log/xorg does not exist =/ | 02:14 |
| mizery | Re:Freezes - I can still move the mouse cursor, but I cannot click and the keyboard does not function. Pushing caps lock does not toggle led light | 02:15 |
| knome | mizery, /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 02:15 |
| mizery | I had the freezing issue with another ubuntu-based distro linux mint as well. | 02:15 |
| mizery | knome, /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/d50d3ebaa | 02:21 |
| mizery | It appears to be using a built-in configuration instead of one configured specifically for the hardware in the system. | 02:22 |
| mizery | I installed xubuntu on a Dell Dimension 2400. lspci( http://is.gd/5j2xd ) xorg.conf( http://is.gd/5j2BD ) Xorg.0.log( http://is.gd/5j2Ii ) -- After using the desktop environment for about an hour, it froze again. The mouse cursor can be moved, but no clicking, and no keyboard functionality. I can log in to the system remotely still. I didn't notice any log or update from `dmesg` indicating any kind of issue as to why th | 04:11 |
| mizery | e desktop environment froze/stopped responding. I'm not sure how to proceed. Any ideas? | 04:11 |
| mizery | p.s. I created a config and am using driver intel | 04:11 |
| mizery | An update to my issue from previous message: syslog( http://is.gd/5j34W ) | 04:16 |
| oOarthurOo | Greetings, does anyone know how to disable tooltips in xfce? | 06:51 |
| Ubuntu_user | is there an xubuntu netbook edition? | 06:51 |
| TheSheep | oOarthurOo: why would you want to do that? | 07:14 |
| TheSheep | oOarthurOo: many applications rely on tooltips | 07:14 |
| MaxFrames | hello | 08:55 |
| MaxFrames | I have a problem configuring arpwatch, can someone help? | 08:55 |
| MaxFrames | the issue is that /etc/arpwatch.conf seems to be ignored, the daemon runs with the default options and I cannot seem to be able to change them | 08:56 |
| tavasti | MaxFrames, stupid question, have you restarted arpwatch after changing config? | 09:02 |
| MaxFrames | yes | 09:02 |
| MaxFrames | in arpwatch.conf I have added this line: | 09:03 |
| TheSheep | how did you start it? | 09:03 |
| MaxFrames | eth0 -n 192.168.1.0/24 -f net192168.dat | 09:04 |
| MaxFrames | and I started it with: | 09:04 |
| MaxFrames | sudo /etc/init.d/arpwatch | 09:04 |
| TheSheep | sudo /etc/init.d/arpwatch restart | 09:04 |
| MaxFrames | same thing... it says "starting ethernet/fddi station monitor daemon: chown arpwatch /var/lib/arpwatch/eth0.dat) arpwatch eth-0." | 09:06 |
| MaxFrames | it should be logging to net192168.dat, and it should ignore traffic on other logical networks on the same wire, but it doesn't | 09:06 |
| MaxFrames | I think the problem is in the /etc/init.d/arpwatch script | 09:08 |
| LucidFox | This question must have been asked many times, but how do I make Compiz start in the Xfce session instead of xfwm? | 09:26 |
| ablomen | LucidFox, simplest way i see is add compiz --replace (or whatever the command was) to autostarted applications in the settings manager | 09:31 |
| LucidFox | Thanks, I'll try that. | 09:34 |
| LucidFox | And how do I make Alt-F1 and Alt-F2 work in Compiz under Xfce? | 09:34 |
| ablomen | ehm im guessing you have to install the compiz settings manager thingy and do it there | 09:39 |
| ablomen | compizconfig-settings-manager << that one | 09:39 |
| ablomen | simple-ccsm << or that one | 09:39 |
| xandermann | Hello! | 10:59 |
| xandermann | Does the Composite things run well under XFCE? | 11:01 |
| xandermann | So as Shadows, etc. | 11:02 |
| xandermann | Nice IRC... Bye. | 11:03 |
| dustman | hej | 12:28 |
| knome | !hi | dustman | 12:29 |
| TheSheep | !hi | dustman | 12:29 |
| ubottu | dustman: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 12:29 |
| knome | TheSheep, ha! | 12:29 |
| knome | :) | 12:29 |
| TheSheep | iFail | 12:29 |
| dustman | I've got bit strange problem with logging in: log in screen just re-appears | 12:29 |
| dustman | again and again | 12:29 |
| knome | dustman, which xubuntu version | 12:29 |
| TheSheep | can you log in from the text console? | 12:29 |
| TheSheep | an, of course, what did you do just before that happened? | 12:30 |
| dustman | uname -a | 12:30 |
| dustman | Linux pine 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux | 12:30 |
| knome | dustman, that's karmic | 12:31 |
| dustman | I actually managed to get into xfce by first getting into gnome and than removing .ICEauthority | 12:31 |
| knome | dustman, (lsb_release -a tells the ubuntu version - just for future reference) | 12:31 |
| dustman | knome: ty | 12:31 |
| dustman | 9.10 | 12:32 |
| dustman | TheSheep: actually, the boxed crushed due to disconnected battery | 12:33 |
| dustman | s/boxed/box | 12:33 |
| knome | dustman, i remember somebody having a rather similar problem which disappeared when he removed some config files | 12:34 |
| knome | iirc, from .config or .xfce4 or sth. | 12:34 |
| dustman | btw, anyone has problems with right-clicks? | 12:35 |
| TheSheep | knome: .dmrc maybe? | 12:35 |
| TheSheep | dustman: no, we are tolernat here | 12:36 |
| TheSheep | tolerant | 12:36 |
| dustman | heh | 12:36 |
| dustman | for me right-click works bit inconsistent | 12:36 |
| TheSheep | I have no idea what that means | 12:37 |
| dustman | often menu appears and disapperas almost immediately | 12:37 |
| knome | TheSheep, can't remember. | 12:37 |
| dustman | like right click -> window -> didn't have time to select anything -> command under cursor executed | 12:38 |
| dustman | s/window/menu | 12:38 |
| vinnl | Have you tried using a different mouse? ;-) | 12:39 |
| dustman | touch pad and mouse | 12:39 |
| dustman | problem is that in many other cases it works fine | 12:39 |
| TheSheep | I remember that there was someone with similar problem once | 12:40 |
| TheSheep | but I can't recall what he did to fix it | 12:40 |
| TheSheep | he fixed it though | 12:40 |
| dustman | you know, I can't pinpoint it to whatever | 12:41 |
| dustman | mouse sensitivity doesn't affect it | 12:41 |
| TheSheep | did you try looking at the forums and/or bugtracker? | 12:41 |
| dustman | neah | 12:41 |
| dustman | TheSheep: is there xubuntu specific bugtracker? | 12:43 |
| dustman | since it works fine with gnome | 12:43 |
| TheSheep | no, xubuntu uses the same one as ubuntu | 12:43 |
| TheSheep | but there are xfce-specific bugs in it too | 12:44 |
| dustman | just looked through open bugs and couldn't find one related to right mouse click | 12:48 |
| dustman | sorry, should go | 12:49 |
| dustman | see ya | 12:49 |
| vaguerant_ | Hey Xubuntu folks. I'm currently an Ubuntu 9.10 user, and it's been all right for the most part but also frustrating at times. My computer is a netbook, so I'm running the Netbook Remix version, but I was considering switching to Xubuntu to a) get away from GNOME and b) take advantage of the lower specifications I imagine Xubuntu requires. | 15:04 |
| vaguerant_ | I'm basically a complete Linux noob, I ran 9.04 before this and have used live CDs for recovering data, etc. from Windows systems, but I haven't been using Linux full time for very long. | 15:05 |
| djura-san | vaguerant_, so what is holding you to switch fully to xubuntu? | 15:06 |
| vaguerant_ | Lack of knowledge, basically. | 15:06 |
| vaguerant_ | I'm primarily wondering whether Xubuntu will be familiar enough for me to get used to coming off of UNR. | 15:06 |
| vaguerant_ | Also I'm curious whether there's any kind of desktop setup similar to UNR, which is great for preserving vertical real estate, which is handy on a netbook. | 15:07 |
| dunix | you can also run Xubuntu as a livecd to test it out | 15:08 |
| vaguerant_ | I'm not interested in the Fisher Price My First Computer style of Netbook Remix at all, just the way the toolbar/taskbar/tray is all one bar. | 15:09 |
| vaguerant_ | That's a good point, I should have thought of that. | 15:09 |
| vaguerant_ | Not sure how much you guys follow niche versions of your sibling releases, so here's what UNR looks like: http://www.greenhughes.com/files/eeenetbook.png | 15:10 |
| vaguerant_ | The whole bottom section is their stupid computer for grandmas setup nobody needs, but the toolbar is really great. | 15:10 |
| vaguerant_ | In the meantime, you made a good point, so I'll start grabbing a live image. | 15:11 |
| dunix | the Xubuntu install disc can be used as a LiveCD | 15:11 |
| David-A | vaguerant_: re: real estate, xfce panels are highly configurable | 15:11 |
| dunix | The default install will setup 2 bars (top and bottom), you can move everything to a single bar | 15:12 |
| vaguerant_ | Cool, that sounds good. | 15:12 |
| dunix | Which is what I've done, on my eee | 15:12 |
| David-A | I have one auto-hidden panel at the bottom of the screen in my netbook, and one small (2cm wide) panel at the top with network and battery status. | 15:13 |
| vaguerant_ | Is there anything similar to UNR's Maximus (undecorates windows, saving you an extra ~20px)? | 15:14 |
| djura-san | vaguerant_, you can turn of decoration in xfce and use ALT+mouse cursor for moving them | 15:15 |
| vaguerant_ | Huh, cool, that works for me. | 15:15 |
| djura-san | still it will look poor since there are no windows decorations. YOu can use slim xfce theme for window manager to get slim borders. | 15:16 |
| dunix | alt+mouse is the greatest thing, for netbooks | 15:16 |
| vaguerant_ | What's Xubuntu's default sound setup like, and is it easily changed? | 15:16 |
| djura-san | or you could use some tiling wm. it looks kinda nerdy but it is awesome for netbooks | 15:17 |
| vaguerant_ | PulseAudio is something that's really bugged me about Gnome. | 15:17 |
| djura-san | vaguerant_, sound setup? | 15:17 |
| djura-san | aha | 15:17 |
| vaguerant_ | And it's basically impossible to escape in 9.10. | 15:17 |
| djura-san | well it good since you could apply eq system wide | 15:18 |
| vaguerant_ | Yeah, it definitely has its pluses, but there's also issues with some games and stuff with a ~1s sound delay. | 15:18 |
| vaguerant_ | And with 9.10 having no way to switch to ALSA/OSS you're kind of stuck. | 15:19 |
| djura-san | well pulseaudio is acting like a layer | 15:20 |
| djura-san | you could remove it but there are catches | 15:20 |
| djura-san | let me see | 15:21 |
| djura-san | also there is no pulse in xubuntu :P | 15:22 |
| djura-san | so no worry for that | 15:22 |
| vaguerant_ | Nice. | 15:22 |
| vaguerant_ | Jeez, nice speed on the torrent. | 15:26 |
| nikolam | djura-san, care for #ubuntu-rs? ;) | 15:26 |
| vaguerant_ | I didn't know I could even get 1.3MB/s. | 15:26 |
| nikolam | btw, I run Xubuntu on eeepc. 8.04lts. atm. | 15:28 |
| djura-san | nikolam, hmmm | 15:29 |
| djura-san | nice | 15:29 |
| nikolam | :) djura-san here we are :) | 15:29 |
| vaguerant_ | Might be a long shot, but are you guys aware of any problems with internal SD/MMC card readers? | 15:29 |
| vaguerant_ | Ubuntu has trouble with hotplugging cards; they only work if someone was in the slot on boot. | 15:30 |
| zutme | I'm having a login issue. On my user account firefox was crashing, so I decided to restart the computer. I restarted it and now I cannot login. It accepts the username and password, appears to load, but then kicks me back to the login screen before I see a desktop. If I login as root it works fine. Ideas? | 15:30 |
| nikolam | vaguerant_, i had some fix for that applied after installation of 8.04. neceeepc script, something like that | 15:31 |
| nikolam | zutme, is it release version, what version of xubuntu | 15:32 |
| vaguerant_ | Uh, *something. | 15:32 |
| zutme | nikolam, karmic | 15:32 |
| nikolam | you can always log in with console on Ctrl+Alt+F2, 3, 4.. | 15:32 |
| zutme | nikolam, yeah I can login on the console | 15:32 |
| zutme | nikolam, I would like to use some gui applications though | 15:33 |
| nikolam | do some update. if you have network | 15:34 |
| nikolam | sudo aptitude update , sudo aptitude upgrade | 15:34 |
| zutme | nikolam, already fully updated | 15:35 |
| nikolam | see in /etc/X11.Xorg.conf what graphics driver is in use. Try to set it temporarily to vesa etc | 15:35 |
| zutme | nikolam, I doubt that is the problem, because as I stated the login manager displays fine and I am logged in as root right now. | 15:36 |
| nikolam | I am for a long time on Lts 8.04. There were 2/3 times in its history when some updates would make some things not working. After filing a report, they we fixed, sometimes even the same day etc | 15:36 |
| nikolam | zutme, try to make new user while in console | 15:36 |
| nikolam | alnd lo in with that | 15:37 |
| nikolam | also, try po check if all files in your user`s directory belong to user | 15:37 |
| nikolam | sudo chown user /home/user -R , sudo chgrp user /home/user -R | 15:38 |
| zutme | my user owns all home directory files. | 15:38 |
| nikolam | also try to use firefox extension calleed Noscript to stop any unwanted scripts from running on your Browser | 15:38 |
| nikolam | Can you log in as a new user? | 15:39 |
| zutme | As I said I am already logged in as root typing this to you right now. | 15:39 |
| zutme | The user owns all his own files | 15:39 |
| zutme | in his home dir | 15:39 |
| nikolam | well did you made new user and see if new user can log in? | 15:40 |
| zutme | nikolam, Ok I tried it and the new non-root user cannot log in | 15:45 |
| zutme | nikolam, So it must be a permissions issue right? | 15:45 |
| nikolam | I would kill gdm | 15:45 |
| nikolam | and try to log in as new user | 15:46 |
| nikolam | and start X with startx | 15:46 |
| zutme | k | 15:46 |
| zutme | brb | 15:46 |
| zutme | nikolam, Ok so I was checking some stuff out and discovered I'm totally out of disk space. So I uninstalled something, but it still wouldn't let me login | 16:18 |
| TheSheep | try apt-get clean | 16:18 |
| nikolam | or to delete files in /tmp etc | 16:20 |
| nikolam | pater, when log in, try baobab, to see what is taking most of the space | 16:21 |
| Venim | anyone know how to remove things from the applications menu? | 17:06 |
| djura-san | Venim, see this: http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu . Currently there is no option to change menus via xfce tools :) | 17:07 |
| Venim | thanks | 17:09 |
| Venim | shoudl've scrolled down when i found that on my own :p | 17:09 |
| djura-san | no prob | 17:09 |
| djura-san | :) | 17:09 |
| oorah | is there a way to select my theme colors in xubuntu? i mean colors i can choose myself? | 17:43 |
| djura-san | like in gnome? | 17:44 |
| oorah | djura-san, yes | 17:47 |
| oorah | another question. will a customized theme such as ones in xfce-look.org slow down my system? | 17:47 |
| djura-san | oorah, not sure for color schemes | 17:47 |
| djura-san | as for other q it will not | 17:47 |
| oorah | ok thanks | 17:48 |
| David-A | oorah: I set colours in a file ~/.gtkrc-2.0 | 17:48 |
| oorah | i found a rockin theme on xfce-look | 17:48 |
| djura-san | still pay attention to roundness in theme since it can be slow | 17:48 |
| djura-san | pass it :) | 17:48 |
| oorah | where do i find the themes folder? i need to drag and drop a theme | 17:53 |
| TheSheep | it's .themes | 17:54 |
| TheSheep | in your home directory | 17:54 |
| TheSheep | press ctrl+h to display hidden files | 17:54 |
| oorah | TheSheep, there is no folder there called that, i looked again | 17:57 |
| TheSheep | then make it | 17:57 |
| oorah | i made the folder, now how do i apply a tar.gz theme? | 17:59 |
| djura-san | extract it to ~/.themes | 17:59 |
| oorah | in gnome i would just drag and drop to the list of themes, it doesn't do anything in xfce | 18:00 |
| TheSheep | make sure the gtkrc file goes to ~/.themes/themename/gtkrc | 18:00 |
| TheSheep | oorah: that's correct | 18:00 |
| oorah | TheSheep, how do i find that folder? | 18:01 |
| TheSheep | oorah: just extract that tarball | 18:01 |
| oorah | TheSheep, how do i do that? | 18:01 |
| TheSheep | right-click on it and select 'extract' | 18:01 |
| TheSheep | then move the directory that was created into .themes | 18:02 |
| oorah | TheSheep, drag and drop didn't work | 18:04 |
| TheSheep | why? | 18:04 |
| TheSheep | what was the error? | 18:05 |
| oorah | i tried to drag and drop it into the list of styles and it didn't land | 18:05 |
| TheSheep | that's correct | 18:05 |
| TheSheep | it won't work | 18:05 |
| oorah | how do i find ~/.themes/themename/gtkrc? | 18:05 |
| TheSheep | move it into the .themes directory | 18:06 |
| oorah | ok i did that part | 18:06 |
| TheSheep | ok, you are done | 18:06 |
| oorah | all i see is an extracted folder i extracted, it does nothing | 18:06 |
| TheSheep | is there a gtkrc file in it? | 18:07 |
| oorah | there is a gtk folder and a gtk-2.0 folder and a metacity and index theme | 18:09 |
| TheSheep | ah, ok | 18:10 |
| oorah | this is confusing sorry | 18:10 |
| TheSheep | tha tworks too | 18:10 |
| oorah | how do i apply the theme? | 18:10 |
| TheSheep | anyways, congratulations, your theme is installed | 18:10 |
| TheSheep | select it from the list | 18:11 |
| oorah | what list? | 18:11 |
| TheSheep | you probably have t oclose it and open again to refresh | 18:11 |
| TheSheep | in settings->user interface settings | 18:11 |
| oorah | oh ok thanks | 18:12 |
| oorah | its applied | 18:12 |
| oorah | now gotta get the other 2 parts of the theme | 18:12 |
| oorah | icons and wallpaper | 18:12 |
| oorah | i'll be back if i have another brain block, thanks again | 18:12 |
| oorah | just got another question | 18:14 |
| oorah | where do i put icon themes? | 18:14 |
| djura-san | in ~/.icons | 18:15 |
| oorah | i need to make that folder lol thanks | 18:16 |
| oorah | one more question. gnome-look seems to have more uploads than xfce look, can i use those themes and icons also? | 18:27 |
| djura-san | yes | 18:27 |
| oorah | thanks | 18:28 |
| djura-san | :) | 18:28 |
| djura-san | we are here to serve | 18:28 |
| oorah | i don't know much lol hope i ain't too annoying | 18:28 |
| oorah | i'm gonna test the alpha 1 beta later and see if i find any bugs | 18:28 |
| djura-san | annoying? lol there is no sucht thing. You are here to get help so feel free to ask :) | 18:29 |
| djura-san | *such | 18:29 |
| djura-san | one day you will server to others (if you like) ;) | 18:30 |
| oorah | i do sometimes, if i know the answers occasionally | 18:31 |
| djura-san | nice | 18:31 |
| TheSheep | oorah: note that only the gtk themes will work, not the metacity or compiz ones | 18:31 |
| oorah | TheSheep, oh ok tanks | 18:31 |
| oorah | part of the theme was partly metacity so no complete work | 18:33 |
| oorah | how come some themes on xfce-look have metacity when they know metacity ain't for xfce? | 18:33 |
| TheSheep | you might find an xfce-windowmanager theme that's similar | 18:34 |
| TheSheep | in settings->window manager settings | 18:34 |
| djura-san | you can install metacity too but its not good idea. | 18:35 |
| oorah | thanks | 18:35 |
| oorah | thanks for the help. wanna see a screenshot of what i got now? | 18:56 |
| djura-san | yeah | 18:56 |
| djura-san | why not | 18:56 |
| djura-san | :) | 18:56 |
| oorah | wait how do i change the pointer color? | 18:57 |
| djura-san | huh | 18:57 |
| oorah | i don't see that in appearance settings | 18:57 |
| djura-san | tough one | 18:57 |
| oorah | the pointer | 18:57 |
| knome | oorah, applications -> settings -> mouse -> tab "theme" | 18:57 |
| oorah | oh ok thanks | 18:58 |
| djura-san | yeah it will do. for system wide change you have to mess with "default" dir in /usr/share/icons | 19:00 |
| djura-san | that is tough | 19:00 |
| oorah | for some reason i click black and it stays white | 19:03 |
| oorah | not a big deal though, probably just a bug | 19:03 |
| knome | oorah, maybe try clicking ok to get the change? or maybe you need to login again | 19:03 |
| djura-san | nope. i told you that you have to mess up with default folder | 19:04 |
| oorah | oh ok | 19:04 |
| oorah | i better not lol | 19:04 |
| knome | djura-san, not if he only wants to change the current user mouse cursor theme | 19:04 |
| oorah | i changed the theme to black, it stayed white | 19:04 |
| oorah | maybe i should restart? | 19:05 |
| knome | oorah, did you try to login again? | 19:05 |
| knome | oorah, that might help as well | 19:05 |
| oorah | no brb i'll try that | 19:05 |
| oorah | or maybe just restart gdm? | 19:05 |
| knome | restart X, if something :P | 19:05 |
| djura-san | nope... | 19:05 |
| djura-san | just restart x | 19:05 |
| oorah | ok thanks | 19:05 |
| djura-san | uce ctrl+alt+backspace or print-screen+AltGr+K? | 19:06 |
| djura-san | *use | 19:06 |
| oorah | unknown job | 19:06 |
| oorah | woha | 19:08 |
| oorah | now its black on some screens white on others | 19:08 |
| djura-san | ? | 19:08 |
| knome | oorah, maybe you should restart :) | 19:08 |
| oorah | fixed it :) thanks | 19:10 |
| djura-san | :) | 19:10 |
| djura-san | you were talking about shots... Can we see it? | 19:10 |
| oorah | yeah brb lemme tinypic it | 19:11 |
| oorah | http://i48.tinypic.com/xqazo1.png | 19:13 |
| djura-san | :) | 19:13 |
| oorah | i wanted the mac panel/scrollbar blue look, but i didn't want their logo and icons | 19:15 |
| oorah | need to change the top and bottom taskbar background colors a little, how do i do that? | 19:15 |
| djura-san | edit pixmpas for that theme. go to ~/.themes/Your theme name/ | 19:17 |
| djura-san | and search for picture that i used for panels. change it and save | 19:18 |
| oorah | djura-san, but wouldn't that change the window manager buttons also? and the taskbar/scrollbar style? | 19:18 |
| knome | http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 19:18 |
| djura-san | you should change only what you need | 19:18 |
| djura-san | or listen to knome :) | 19:18 |
| oorah | actually i kinda like it how it is. the dark colors makes the takbar icons less clear | 19:20 |
| oorah | this is way better than default look | 19:27 |
| oorah | i don't understand why *buntu defaults have to be so dull | 19:28 |
| knome | oorah, which version of xubuntu are you talking about now? | 19:28 |
| oorah | karmic | 19:28 |
| knome | oorah, so can you tell me how could we make the default look better? | 19:28 |
| oorah | knome, bright colors and nice looking window managers | 19:30 |
| oorah | there are nice preloaded ones though | 19:30 |
| oorah | window managers i meant | 19:31 |
| knome | oorah, so you'd want a more contrasted and accessible theme? | 19:31 |
| knome | or? | 19:31 |
| knome | i'm personally totally not a fan of the window decorations you have right now | 19:31 |
| oorah | its great having that kinda control though :) | 19:31 |
| knome | no mean to offense you, but they just look so old :) | 19:31 |
| oorah | knome, you like the defaults? | 19:32 |
| knome | oorah, i was one of the guys creating the default theme for karmic | 19:32 |
| oorah | knome, oh really? cool | 19:32 |
| knome | oorah, it's not perfect yet, but i think it is one of the best overall themes you have at this time | 19:32 |
| knome | oorah, xubuntu lucid will include a polished albatross by default | 19:33 |
| djura-san | and it looks good with elemntary | 19:34 |
| oorah | its pretty good | 19:34 |
| djura-san | *elementary | 19:34 |
| knome | any ideas and suggestions are welcome | 19:34 |
| djura-san | well there is one | 19:35 |
| oorah | i set it back to albatross and kept the retro window manager | 19:35 |
| oorah | and kept the icon theme | 19:36 |
| djura-san | some icons are missing in elementary set. they are not missing but they are not linked to work in xubuntu | 19:36 |
| djura-san | xfce that is | 19:36 |
| knome | djura-san, we know the lack of some icons, we have to create some new icons for lucid. we just didn't have time to do that for karmic :) | 19:37 |
| djura-san | oorah, jeah, this is the best artwork for xubuntu so far ;) | 19:37 |
| oorah | now changed to glossy green theme | 19:37 |
| djura-san | knome, sure but there is no need to create new icons. just some links are missing :) | 19:37 |
| djura-san | just my 2c | 19:38 |
| knome | djura-san, there *is* some icons missing ;) we will create some links as well | 19:38 |
| knome | djura-san, that's valuable. thanks :) | 19:38 |
| djura-san | nice | 19:38 |
| oorah | i like the shiny theme looks :) | 19:38 |
| djura-san | i just connected to my Serbian ubuntu loco... i share xubuntu now with people :) | 19:39 |
| djura-san | small contibution | 19:39 |
| djura-san | since i will keep it instead of debian and other distros | 19:40 |
| oorah | i tried debian once and hated it | 19:40 |
| djura-san | oorah, please dont. Xubuntu is based on it so there is not *much* diferences between them | 19:41 |
| djura-san | :) | 19:41 |
| oorah | i tried to install stuff and i put in the righ user name, passoword, i was logged in as myself, it said i wasn't a sudoer | 19:41 |
| oorah | right* | 19:41 |
| djura-san | im thinking to create some cd cover for xubuntu so i can share cd-s.. i will see what i can do | 19:41 |
| djura-san | oorah, debian is not using sudo by default | 19:42 |
| djura-san | ;) | 19:42 |
| knome | djura-san, join the marketing brainstorm. we are thinking about that as well | 19:42 |
| oorah | canonical never shipped xubuntu for free, don't know why | 19:42 |
| oorah | i always request a free ubuntu cd, they come with a nice case, sitckers, and disc label | 19:42 |
| knome | oorah, on-disk.com does | 19:42 |
| knome | oorah, see "free quick ship discs" on the left | 19:43 |
| oorah | knome, oh ok thanks | 19:43 |
| oorah | site don't exist | 19:43 |
| oorah | according to firefox | 19:43 |
| knome | http://on-disk.com/index.php/cPath/349 | 19:44 |
| knome | it does exists. | 19:44 |
| knome | -s | 19:44 |
| djura-san | knome, i will se what my loco is thinking about that. in the meantime i could join marketing brainstorm... still im gonna use 10.04 for next year and beyond so i could give something good to community | 19:45 |
| djura-san | still trying to create sticker on brushed metal but no good | 19:45 |
| knome | hmmm | 19:45 |
| knome | djura-san, #xubuntu-devel. loco teams should have nothing against participating in functional/derivative teams. | 19:46 |
| oorah | they cost money grrrrrrrrrrrr | 19:46 |
| knome | oorah, yes, that's the shipping cost | 19:46 |
| oorah | knome, oh i see | 19:46 |
| djura-san | im joining that teams now | 19:46 |
| djura-san | :) | 19:46 |
| djura-san | q: why do you want to change xubuntu site look? | 19:47 |
| knome | djura-san, it could be better. :) | 19:47 |
| djura-san | do you want to use "Albatros" alike theme or... | 19:47 |
| djura-san | aha | 19:47 |
| djura-san | it looks nice now | 19:47 |
| knome | djura-san, no, probably not albatross-like theme | 19:47 |
| djura-san | xubuntu-devel mailing list is about 10.04 right? | 19:49 |
| knome | djura-san, it's about any release to be released | 19:49 |
| djura-san | oket | 19:49 |
| djura-san | im mean ok | 19:49 |
| knome | djura-san, or any development still done for the previous releases | 19:49 |
| knome | s/or/and/ | 19:49 |
| oorah | for some reason its not letting me change desktop background | 19:50 |
| djura-san | thank you for answers so far | 19:50 |
| djura-san | oorah, how so? | 19:50 |
| oorah | i found a link for one i like, right click, set as background,nothing | 19:50 |
| oorah | it won't change | 19:50 |
| oorah | do i have to save the pic first? | 19:50 |
| knome | oorah, yeah, i suppose you can't set images from URLs as background | 19:51 |
| oorah | oh ok thanks | 19:51 |
| oorah | what program should i use to open it with so i can set it? | 19:51 |
| knome | oorah, right-click desktop -> desktop settings | 19:52 |
| oorah | thanks | 19:53 |
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| djura-san | knome, in 10.04 you will not include pulseaudio? | 20:03 |
| oorah | ok i made my final theme changes | 20:47 |
| djura-san | hm... | 20:47 |
| djura-san | let us see them | 20:47 |
| oorah | this should be the Lucid theme :D http://tinypic.com/r/2eej8lz/6 | 20:49 |
| oorah | IMO its amazing! | 20:50 |
| oorah | maybe a little hard on the eyes at first lol | 20:50 |
| oorah | but i like the green and black | 20:50 |
| oorah | what do yall think? honestly.... | 20:50 |
| TheSheep | I couldn't work with such a high-contrast background | 20:51 |
| djura-san | dont wory im brutally honest :] | 20:52 |
| oorah | ok thanks haha | 20:52 |
| oorah | i think its a great look | 20:52 |
| oorah | i guess i have a different taste lol | 20:52 |
| djura-san | too much intense for eyes. But there is no point in discussing about tastes ;) | 20:52 |
| djura-san | we all have different taste ;) | 20:53 |
| TheSheep | it's nat about taste, it's about usability | 20:53 |
| TheSheep | it's ok to show someone for a moment | 20:53 |
| TheSheep | or to set up as a demo in a shop | 20:53 |
| oorah | djura-san, you have a one click access to both? | 20:58 |
| djura-san | oorah, what? dont understand. Are you referring to panels? If that so yes i have it. My Workspace margins are about 15-50px :) | 20:59 |
| oorah | djura-san, oh i see. i'm so use to having 2 it would be hard to get use to one lol | 21:00 |
| oorah | i wonder if i can make what i have into one theme | 21:00 |
| oorah | i mean with a theme maker of some kind? | 21:01 |
| djura-san | oorah, i thought so. i used ubuntu with openbox for long time without any panels. Alt+tab is hard when you use so much apps at once. On my shot you see only a few but i usually use to many of them. So panel with windows lists is required now. Im using lin more to create stuff. ANd also i play nwn a lot :) | 21:02 |
| oorah | whats nwn? | 21:02 |
| djura-san | neverwinter nights | 21:03 |
| oorah | oh whats that? | 21:03 |
| djura-san | just some game | 21:03 |
| djura-san | only game i play (besides cs) | 21:03 |
| knome | djura-san, no idea yet. | 21:31 |
| knome | djura-san, (re: pulseaudio) | 21:31 |
| djura-san | okay | 21:32 |
| djura-san | right now there is no pulse and i dont mind that at all :) | 21:33 |
| zyxwvut | hello | 22:49 |
| djura-san | o/ | 22:49 |
| zyxwvut | wondering if someone can point me to right direction to modify the mount options of the automount tool used in xubuntu ? | 22:49 |
| vinnl | !fstab | 22:50 |
| ubottu | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 22:50 |
| zyxwvut | I want to give full write acces to a HFS external drive and currently it's only root who got that permission | 22:50 |
| vinnl | Those links should help you, I thin | 22:50 |
| vinnl | *think | 22:50 |
| zyxwvut | fstab is not automount because it's an external drive (in fact 2 drives currently) | 22:51 |
| vinnl | Is it connected on startup? | 22:51 |
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| zyxwvut | sorry what i meant is that i don't think fstab would help or does the udev/hal/whatever use the fstab to get mount options based on uid ? | 22:52 |
| vinnl | Yep, I believe so | 22:52 |
| zyxwvut | no not connected at startup | 22:52 |
| digitrev | If anyone has some free time, I was wondering if I could get some help with ssh. It seems to be something specific to xubuntu, because it works properly both on Cygwin and Ubuntu | 22:53 |
| zyxwvut | in fact i was hoping there would be a magic file somewhere where i put 777 and bingo every external disk mounted get write access to anyone | 22:53 |
| zyxwvut | my other external FAT is working (but it's FAT) | 22:53 |
| vinnl | Hmm, I'd lurk around to see if someone with more knowledge of this reads your question :) | 22:54 |
| zyxwvut | vinnl, do you know the tool that does the automount job ? | 22:54 |
| vinnl | zyxwvut, I think exo-mount, otherwise gnome-mount | 22:55 |
| djura-san | zyxwvut, try this: settings > File manager > Advanced > COnfigure | 22:56 |
| djura-san | thunar volman should do the job | 22:56 |
| zyxwvut | djura-san, nothing in the advanced settings | 22:57 |
| zyxwvut | I will look in exo-mount and thunar volman man pages | 22:57 |
| vinnl | zyxwvut, alternatively, you could try mailing the xubuntu-users mailinglist :) | 22:57 |
| zyxwvut | vinnl, yes but I'll try that when I've tried 'many' things before ;) | 22:58 |
| vinnl | Good :) | 22:58 |
| djura-san | zyxwvut, there is. enalbe "volume managment" and try configure then. maybe you can solve problems like that. | 22:59 |
| djura-san | *enable | 22:59 |
| djura-san | there are a lot of options there | 23:00 |
| zyxwvut | djura-san, it's already active but i think the purpose of those options is to activate the right tool base on what type of media you plugged in | 23:00 |
| zyxwvut | based* | 23:01 |
| djura-san | zyxwvut, yeah. | 23:01 |
| djura-san | still you can use thunar volman to mount device ant chown to change owner. | 23:02 |
| zyxwvut | djura-san, will try | 23:04 |
| digitrev | Can anyone help me with some ssh problems? | 23:18 |
| dunix | it's better to state your problem, instead of asking to ask | 23:19 |
| digitrev | Fair enough | 23:19 |
| digitrev | The problem is this: after properly authenticating using ssh-add, my public key is not being accepted by Xubuntu. This is odd, because it works just fine when ssh'ing into my Cygwin and Ubuntu box. | 23:20 |
| dunix | Never used that ssh-agent stuff, so i'm no help | 23:24 |
| digitrev | Ahh. Thanks anyways. | 23:25 |
| digitrev | Would you be able to point me to a place where people might be able to help more? | 23:25 |
| djura-san | try at #ubuntu | 23:25 |
| dunix | yea, same in ubuntu | 23:25 |
| djura-san | or #arch | 23:25 |
| digitrev | I'd try #ubuntu, but it seems to be something specific to xubuntu. | 23:26 |
| djura-san | it sounds more like a ssh related stuff rather than xubuntu related stuf. still check there out :) | 23:28 |
| zyxwvut | djura-san, chown worked and i found on launchpad that in the future there would be an mount.rc file in the xubuntu-default-settings that would provide the ability to specify mount-options | 23:38 |
| djura-san | nice to hear. thank you for info. | 23:38 |
| zyxwvut | thanks again bye | 23:38 |
| djura-san | o/ | 23:39 |
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