| michas | hi, an "apt-get source resolvconf" does not give orig.tar.gz/diff.gz, only a single tar.gz and a directory name containing the whole ubuntu1 part. what is the reason for this? (never saw this on other packages before.) | 00:03 |
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| c_korn | michas: because the package is ubuntu specific: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/resolvconf | 00:05 |
| maxb | This is called a "native" package. It means there is no upstream that is not the distro itself | 00:05 |
| directhe` | michas, it's called a "native package", it means ubuntu is upstream | 00:05 |
| maxb | snap :-) | 00:05 |
| c_korn | native - that was the word I was looking for :) | 00:08 |
| michas | If I understood the naming scheme correctly, 1.44ubuntu1 means it was in debian before, and is essentially the same in ubuntu, right? | 00:10 |
| maxb | For some value of "essentially" | 00:10 |
| michas | ok, do I have to handle those packages differently? dch for example complains about the missing orig tarball. | 00:13 |
| maxb | Why is dch even looking for an upstream tarball? | 00:13 |
| michas | "dch -i" says: dch warning: your current directory has been renamed to:../resolvconf-1.44ubuntu2 warning: no orig tarball found for the new version. | 00:15 |
| maxb | I would say that that warning is spurious and a bug | 00:17 |
| michas | ok, I'll just ignore it for now. ;) | 00:18 |
| michas | one more small thing: apt-get source complains "gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found". Did I forget to configure something correctly? | 00:22 |
| michas | (even explicitly recv-ing the key before does not change it...) | 00:25 |
| ScottK | michas: That's a normal warning to get for a native package. | 00:28 |
| michas | ScottK, you're referring to the dch warning, right? | 00:34 |
| ScottL_ | after talking to nedko about the zynjacku /usr/lib/python2.6/sites-package he suggested I set PYLIBDIR but I don't know how to set it while using pbuilder, can anyone suggest something? | 01:17 |
| ScottL_ | or better, how can I set an environ1 | 01:25 |
| ScottL_ | or better, how can I set an environment variable while building a package using pbuilder? | 01:26 |
| nano4ever | Hey guys I made debdiff Bug #206862 | 01:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 206862 in xsensors "New upstream version (0.60) available" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206862 | 01:30 |
| nano4ever | can anyone take a look at it? | 01:30 |
| maxb | ScottL_: Don't. It is evil for packages to only build if they have certain envvars set external to themselves. You should be setting anything like this in debian/rules | 01:32 |
| ScottL_ | maxb, how can I accomplish setting it in the debian/rules? can you tell me how or point me to a manual/guide? | 01:34 |
| maxb | debian/rules is just a Makefile with special targets. No black magic there | 01:35 |
| ScottL_ | unfortunately, I'm still pretty ignorant about makefiles though :( | 01:36 |
| ScottL_ | i've bought the GNU make manual from FSF though which should be here in a few days :) | 01:36 |
| ScottL_ | this must be incrementally painful for you to help me but I appreciate it greatly | 01:38 |
| azeem | ScottL_: the Makefile knowledge you need for debian/rules is miniscule compared to the GNU make feature set | 01:41 |
| ScottL_ | azeem, can you point to a succinct guide for makefiles then? | 01:42 |
| maxb | "info make" | 01:44 |
| ScottL | !make | 01:46 |
| ubottu | Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first) | 01:46 |
| ScottL | i've read that page but I don't remember it discussing moderating makefile or rules files, but I'll look at it again | 01:47 |
| ScottK | michas: Yes, I was. | 01:50 |
| ScottL_ | I think I have it: ./configure $(CROSS) --prefix=/usr --mandir=\$${prefix}/share/man --infodir=\$${prefix}/share/info CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS)" PYLIBDIR="/usr/lib" | 02:01 |
| ScottL_ | now if I can figure out the right PYLIBDIR ;P | 02:02 |
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| shiki- | !revu | 10:12 |
| ubottu | REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 10:12 |
| shiki- | hi all btw | 10:38 |
| shiki- | last time I didnt get an answer. So. HOW should I prepare a package for revu?.. From scratch source... debianize it..and ..thats all? | 10:38 |
| fabrice_sp__ | !packagingguide | shiki | 11:02 |
| ubottu | shiki: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 11:02 |
| shiki- | ty fabrice_sp__ | 11:02 |
| fabrice_sp__ | yw ;-) | 11:02 |
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| oussama | hello everybody | 11:35 |
| shiki- | hi | 11:36 |
| oussama | what does the motu team do ? | 11:36 |
| fabrice_sp | !motu | oussama | 11:39 |
| ubottu | oussama: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 11:39 |
| shiki- | :))) | 11:39 |
| oussama | ok thanks | 11:39 |
| oussama | and how to get involved ? | 11:40 |
| fabrice_sp | oussama, see the topic: "Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing" | 11:41 |
| fabrice_sp | :-D | 11:41 |
| shiki- | :D | 11:41 |
| oussama | interesting | 11:43 |
| oussama | but need a lot of work | 11:44 |
| shiki- | hah.. sadly | 11:45 |
| shiki- | Im still trying to force myself to prepare those packages.. | 11:46 |
| fabrice_sp | Preparing a new package is a lot more complex than fixing one | 11:47 |
| directhex | depends on how broken things aee | 11:48 |
| directhex | are | 11:48 |
| shiki- | hmm. | 11:49 |
| fabrice_sp | and for new package, it depends the build system and how bad the copyright is | 11:49 |
| * fabrice_sp is still trying to get a pakcage into debian that is a copyright nightmare, with stuff stolen from others projects! | 11:50 | |
| oussama | how to find tasks to do ? | 12:11 |
| etali1 | Oussama: You could look on launchpad for bugs tagged with [Needs Packaging], and pick one that you're interested in working on (perhaps something you already use?) | 12:13 |
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| etali | That's what I've done (not a MOTU yet, but want to apply next year). | 12:13 |
| oussama | ok | 12:13 |
| randomaction | oussama: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO | 12:14 |
| BLUG_Fred | hey guys! coming back for another issues with a package not working by default after a fresh install. Package is labyrinth and bug is documented here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/labyrinth/+bug/327174 . How can we get this working out of the bix? | 12:26 |
| BLUG_Fred | box | 12:26 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 327174 in labyrinth "labyrinth crashes at startup "ImportError: No module named Numeric" : missing python-numeric dependency (dup-of: 86503)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:26 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 86503 in labyrinth "Can't open the sucsessfully installed "Labyrinth Mind-mapping"" [Medium,Triaged] | 12:26 |
| oussama | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blender/+bug/451449 | 12:46 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 451449 in blender "[bugfix release] Blender 2.49b" [Undecided,New] | 12:46 |
| oussama | how to fix it ?? | 12:46 |
| oussama | how to upload a package ? | 12:52 |
| BLUG_Fred | oussama: it seems like a lot of bugs into one report | 12:53 |
| BLUG_Fred | oussama: talk to the package maintainers to ask for a backport | 12:56 |
| shiki- | if one package's been requested for inclusion... should I still mess with REVU? | 12:58 |
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| ^arky^ | hi any help with bug 491327 | 15:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 491327 in at-spi "No module named pyatspi" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/491327 | 15:06 |
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| oussama | how to upload a package in universe or multivers ?? | 18:20 |
| randomaction | oussama: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 18:20 |
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| oussama | what is dfsg | 18:54 |
| oussama | blender_2.49a+dfsg.orig | 18:54 |
| randomaction | Debian Free Software Guidelines | 18:54 |
| oussama | thanks | 18:55 |
| randomaction | it means that the original tarball was repackaged to remove some non-free files | 18:55 |
| oussama | and how to do it | 18:55 |
| oussama | i want to upgrade the package from 2.49a to 2.49b | 18:56 |
| randomaction | I think it's repack, delete, pack :) | 18:56 |
| randomaction | no wait; unpack, delete, pack | 18:56 |
| oussama | in cmd | 18:57 |
| oussama | command line | 18:57 |
| randomaction | 2.49b is already in Debian | 18:58 |
| oussama | but in ubuntu 2.49a | 18:59 |
| randomaction | so if you want to get in into Ubuntu you should do a merge or a sync | 18:59 |
| randomaction | !merge | 18:59 |
| ubottu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging | 18:59 |
| oussama | ok thank you | 19:00 |
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| jjlee | how do I parse the latest version out of a debian/changelog? | 20:00 |
| Laney | dpkg-parsechangelog | 20:00 |
| jjlee | Laney: thanks | 20:01 |
| jjlee | hmm, is there a convenient way to just print the version, not all the other stuff? | 20:03 |
| chrisccoulson | jjlee - dpkg-parsechangelog | egrep '^Version:' | cut -f 2 -d ' ' | 20:05 |
| chrisccoulson | example in /usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1/rules/gnome-get-source.mk | 20:06 |
| jjlee | chrisccoulson: I was afraid you'd say that ;-) But thanks anyway | 20:06 |
| chrisccoulson | why? | 20:06 |
| jjlee | it's awkward. The way git log does this kind of thing is better. | 20:08 |
| oussama | what is the use of "patch" ?? | 20:19 |
| jmarsden | oussama: man patch to find out. It says patch - apply a diff file to an original | 20:20 |
| DktrKranz | geser: debian #560758 seems due to some changes in LP, which seems not publish unstable anymore | 20:21 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 560758 in ubuntu-dev-tools "False: The versions in Debian and Ubuntu are the same already during requestsync" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/560758 | 20:21 |
| oussama | is it possible to upgrade vlc from 1.02 to 1.04 | 20:51 |
| oussama | ??? | 20:53 |
| etali | oussama: The upgrading VLC question might get answered more quickly in #ubuntu - this channel isn't really for support questions. | 20:54 |
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| jjlee | If I want both a *.deb and a *_source.changes (to upload to a PPA), I have to run dpkg-buildpackage twice -- is that right? | 21:26 |
| diwic | jjlee: you just need to upload source.changes | 21:29 |
| diwic | jjlee: launchpad builds it for you | 21:29 |
| jjlee | diwic: yes | 21:29 |
| jjlee | diwic: but I also want to test locally | 21:29 |
| diwic | jjlee: I always run both -S and -b | 21:30 |
| jjlee | and that generates both the .deb and the _source.changes? | 21:30 |
| diwic | jjlee: I run it twice | 21:31 |
| jjlee | oh | 21:31 |
| diwic | jjlee: once with -S and once with -b | 21:31 |
| jjlee | fair enough | 21:31 |
| diwic | jjlee: but I guess it's worth a try to specify both :-) | 21:31 |
| jjlee | debuild says: cannot combine dpkg-buildpackage options -S and -b | 21:36 |
| diwic | jjlee: have you tried none of them? | 21:38 |
| jjlee | yes, doesn't build _source.changes | 21:38 |
| diwic | ok | 21:38 |
| diwic | I guess it's twice then | 21:38 |
| jjlee | irritatingly, the second run, when using git-buildpackage, complains about the output of the first | 21:48 |
| jjlee | perhaps I'm supposed to tell dh_clean about those generated files, so that it can remove them again? | 21:49 |
| diwic | jjlee: they should be removed on clean | 21:50 |
| diwic | jjlee: exactly if that means dh_clean is beyond my knowledge | 21:50 |
| jjlee | on debian/rules clean | 21:50 |
| diwic | jjlee: seems reasonable | 21:51 |
| diwic | btw, is the PPA system down? I dput a file maybe half an hour ago and yet to receive an email (accepted or refused) | 21:52 |
| popey | if someone wants to file a bug against the file-open dialog in their browser, what package would that go against? Nautilus? | 22:07 |
| chrisccoulson | popey - depends on which browser | 22:08 |
| chrisccoulson | but it's probably the GTK file chooser | 22:09 |
| popey | firefox and chrome | 22:09 |
| popey | http://www.flickr.com/photos/osde-info/4177039855/ | 22:09 |
| popey | see that screenshot | 22:09 |
| popey | if it's the gtk file chooser, what package should it go against? | 22:09 |
| chrisccoulson | popey - that would be gtk+2.0 | 22:10 |
| popey | thanks | 22:13 |
| popey | chrisccoulson: which package though? | 22:15 |
| joaopinto | libgtk2.0-0 | 22:16 |
| popey | yay, found an existing bug | 22:16 |
| popey | bug 219385 | 22:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 219385 in hundredpapercuts "File filters can make file selection dialog too wide for screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219385 | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson | popey - yeah, i was just looking for an existing bug too (i was sure i'd already seen it reported somewhere) | 22:18 |
| * popey hugs his google skills | 22:18 | |
| popey | http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=launchpad+flickr+upload+bug+dialog&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq= | 22:18 |
| popey | :) | 22:18 |
| popey | first hit | 22:18 |
| popey | says something about launchpad that it's easier to search via google than via lp itself :S | 22:19 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i find that searching for duplicates in launchpad really sucks | 22:19 |
| JontheEchidna | not as bad as bugzilla, let me tell you | 22:21 |
| nigel_nb | +1 chrisccoulson | 22:21 |
| JontheEchidna | bugzilla's search tool is more of a way to get custom lists than to find bugs, imo :s | 22:22 |
| nigel_nb | JontheEchidna: bugzilla is extremely frustrating, I agree | 22:23 |
| hggdh | and the replcement for simple-dup-finder... sucks | 22:39 |
| martoss | hey folks - two questions. First: What could be wrong if in my ppa - for a specific package - just the i386 version has been built. 2nd I've packaged two programs. So after having tested them, what's the best way to transfer them to revu? | 22:40 |
| dhillon-v10 | hi all, I want to file a sync/merge report for a package, but Debian PTS says that the package has 1 error and 1 warning: http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/fonttools.html should I proceed with the request or choose a different package | 22:41 |
| diwic | dhillon-v10: I think most motus would accept those errors | 22:42 |
| dhillon-v10 | diwic, so just proceed :) | 22:43 |
| diwic | dhillon-v10: the source format error is, I guess, contradictory to recent Debian recommendations of upgrading. | 22:44 |
| diwic | dhillon-v10: lucid has autosync of Debian packages if they're unchanged in ubuntu | 22:45 |
| dhillon-v10 | diwic, so does that mean i don't have to file a sync report then | 22:45 |
| diwic | dhillon-v10: fonttools is changed in ubuntu | 22:46 |
| diwic | dhillon-v10: you'll have to merge it | 22:46 |
| jjlee | thanks everybody for your tips over a couple of weeks | 22:49 |
| dhillon-v10 | diwic, hey I tried building fonttools in lucid chroot and it says: E: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python2.6/python2.6_2.6.4-1ubuntu1_i386.deb: 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80] why would that be | 22:54 |
| diwic | dhillon-v10: is your chroot updated? | 22:54 |
| dhillon-v10 | diwic, yah its for lucid, that's what its supposed to be right | 22:55 |
| dhillon-v10 | diwic, here: http://pastebin.com/d2f23af0e | 22:57 |
| diwic | dhillon-v10: according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/python2.6 the correct version is 2.6.4-1ubuntu2 | 22:57 |
| diwic | dhillon-v10: try a pbuilder update for lucid | 22:58 |
| dhillon-v10 | diwic, alright :) | 22:58 |
| dhillon-v10 | diwic, is this the right command: sudo pbuilder --update --basetgz /home/vikram/pbuilder/lucid.tgz --distribution lucid | 23:00 |
| diwic | dhillon-v10: eh, I have configured .pbuilderrc so I run it in another way, so I don't know | 23:02 |
| dhillon-v10 | diwic, okay, anyways what does this mean: W: --override-config is not set; not updating apt.conf Read the manpage for details. | 23:03 |
| diwic | dhillon-v10: I don't know more than you do about that error | 23:04 |
| dhillon-v10 | diwic, lol alright never mind, thanks for the information though its updating python so that must have been the problem | 23:05 |
| diwic | anyway I need to go to bed now | 23:05 |
| dhillon-v10 | diwic, good night | 23:05 |
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