[02:46] <emurphy> test 1 2
[15:06] <rtgz> We need to invent something really crazy with U1 file sync. The regular sync calls for Dropbox analogy, not that *special*...
[15:06]  * rtgz is listening to this week's FLOSS Weekly podcast http://twit.tv/floss99 with our own Stuart Langridge @sil talking about Ubuntu One.
[15:26] <rtgz> honk, btw
[15:28] <rtgz> and please please please, don't do what Amazon did - I was browsing for the music there, got all my payment method sorted... and... This is not available in your country... ARRRGH...
[15:37] <rtgz>  Btw, vCard... evo-couchdb != vCard...
[15:43] <rtgz> comment re podcast: Shared folder does not appear as anything new, i.e. there is virtually no mean to find out that you have been offered a share until you go to your email
[15:50] <rtgz> comment re podcast: "2 gigs will be a loong way" - Bug #475636
[16:20] <rtgz> Next q: current version delays syncdaemon loading until OAuth token is retrieved. What about other SD queries (e.g. from Nautilus) - they will fire up syncdaemon the same way (e.g. with get_root()) , is there any harm?
[17:16] <thomastp> anyonke know how important gnomekeyring is for desktopcouch ?
[17:16] <thomastp> it's not there for maemo, and I'd prefer to avoid it
[17:24] <rtgz> thomastp, desktopcouch stores username and password for Basic auth in gnome keyring
[17:25] <thomastp> rtgz: understood, but it would still work without doing that or it would blow up ?
[17:26] <rtgz> thomastp, it will start couchdb but will probably cry a lot about gnome keyring. I can try that to see what happens, if you have some time :)
[17:26] <thomastp> sure
[17:26] <thomastp> I might as well try as well in scratchbox
[17:33] <rtgz> thomastp, nope, does not start, cries about NoKeyringDaemonError
[17:34] <thomastp> rtgz: hm, may need to patch that out then
[17:34] <rtgz> thomastp, yup, in wants only username and password, so that should be easy to hack
[17:35] <rtgz> thomastp, is there any N* emulator?
[17:35] <thomastp> rtgz: yeah, scratchbox
[17:35] <thomastp> not really an emulator, but good enough
[17:41] <rtgz> thomastp, I believe one has to own a real device to get the filesystem image...  Eh, N900 not officially available in Ukraine... as well as iPhone and all Android-based devices, though...
[17:43] <thomastp> rtgz: not at all
[17:44] <thomastp> rtgz: you can download the fremantle scratchbox sdk and set it up without owning a device
[18:32] <Henry_BR> Hello, I don't know how to connect my computer to Ubuntu One. No page of connection was shown and I already have an Ubuntu One account; may anyone help me?
[18:36] <facundobatista> Henry_BR, if you start Ubuntu One from "Applications -> Internet", it should go to a web page where you can add your computer
[18:36] <Henry_BR> facundobatista: no page is shown
[18:37] <facundobatista> Henry_BR, or you already added your computer to the system?
[18:37] <Henry_BR> facundobatista: I'd like to add my computer to ubuntu one
[18:38] <facundobatista> Henry_BR, starting Ubuntu One, it does not open your firefox?
[18:38] <Henry_BR> facundobatista: not
[18:39] <facundobatista> Henry_BR, from command line, start "seahorse"
[18:39] <Henry_BR> facundobatista: there is an option: go to web... but it just open a login page where I can login, but no option to connect my computer
[18:39] <facundobatista> Henry_BR, there you can see if you already have a UbuntuOne token
[18:41] <Henry_BR> facundobatista:  just messengers and desktop couch
[18:41] <facundobatista> Henry_BR, no "UbuntuOne token for https://ubuntuone.com"?
[18:42] <Henry_BR> facundobatista: no
[18:43] <facundobatista> Henry_BR, which files do you have in "$HOME/.cache/ubuntuone/log"?
[18:44] <facundobatista> Henry_BR, I'm shooting blind now, UbuntuOne should open your browser if you don't have the token
[18:46] <Henry_BR> facundobatista: oauth-login.log, suncdaemon.log, suncdaemon.log.2009-12-12_13-30-21, syncdaemonexceltions.log, suncdaemon-exceltions.log.2009-12-12_13-30-21
[18:47] <facundobatista> Henry_BR, you should open a bug about this...
[18:48] <Henry_BR> facundobatista: isn't there one?
[18:49] <rtgz> Henry_BR, let's rule common stuff out
[18:49] <rtgz> Henry_BR, wget http://ubuntuone-client-diagnose.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ubuntuone-client-diagnose.py
[18:49] <rtgz> Henry_BR, python ubuntuone-client-diagnose.py
[18:49] <Henry_BR> rtgz: i've already tried
[18:50] <rtgz> Henry_BR, ah, no issues then
[18:50] <Henry_BR> rtgz: it prints that nothing was found.. it does't say anything
[18:50] <rtgz> Henry_BR, ok, then we'll need the logs
[18:51] <Henry_BR> how do I send? for who?
[18:52] <rtgz> Henry_BR, the files can be pasted to http://paste.ubuntu.com, we are most interested in oauth-login.log, syncdaemon.log and syncdaemon-exceptions.log immediately after you start the applet, additionally you may want to start ubuntuone-client-applet from the command line
[18:52] <rtgz> Henry_BR, ... as the applet might print out some more info.
[18:54] <Henry_BR> rtgz: looks like a page is opening... just a minute
[18:56] <rtgz> Henry_BR, additionally, what browser are you using?
[18:56] <Henry_BR> rtgz: fisrt was firefox, i have just installed ubuntu, now
[18:56] <Henry_BR> rtgz: but nothing hapens
[18:57] <rtgz> Henry_BR, so is the page opening?
[18:57] <Henry_BR> rtgz: i have installed chrome and try to open ubuntu one by app/internet/ubuntuone
[18:57] <Henry_BR> rtgz: and nothing........ =\
[18:58] <Henry_BR> rtgz: now, you have said to me.. I have closed ubuntu one app and open it with command line in console
[18:58] <Henry_BR> and it works, opened my chrome and add the computer =)
[18:59] <Henry_BR> rtgz: mistery
[19:00] <rtgz> Henry_BR, so this is the first time you started ubuntuone-client, right?
[19:00] <rtgz> Henry_BR, you did not exit the applet and restarted again
[19:00] <rtgz> Henry_BR, then you quit the applet and started it from the command line
[19:00] <rtgz> Henry_BR, then it worked. Is it correct description of the actions?
[19:01] <Henry_BR> rtgz: fisrt i tried and nothing hapens... i shutdown my computer and now i have tried again, nothing hapens. I closed and tried open from command line(not from applications/internet/,,,) and it works.
[19:02] <Henry_BR> from applications the app worked.. but no page of "add computer" was shown
[19:03] <rtgz> Henry_BR, I've seen such behavior, but... could you post your logs, to help reproducing that?
[19:04] <Henry_BR> yes
[19:04] <Henry_BR> i'm preparing it
[19:04] <Henry_BR> (sorry for my english :P )
[19:04] <Henry_BR> rtgz: may i paste the sync..da...log.<date_here>  too?
[19:05] <rtgz> Henry_BR, it happens here at #ubuntuone at least twice, but the bug might not have been caught. I tried reproducing that locally with various spells but.. nothing
[19:05] <rtgz> Henry_BR, yes, sure!
[19:07] <Henry_BR> rtgz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/340119/
[19:08] <Henry_BR> rtgz: sync is working too =)
[19:09] <Henry_BR> rtgz: thank you, my i help with another thing?
[19:09] <rtgz> Henry_BR, yep, once kicked it starts to fly pretty nicely...
[19:09] <Henry_BR> rtgz: I didn't understand
[19:11] <rtgz> Henry_BR, that's a joke, nevermind, I don't know how to translate it properly, sorry for that :) I am not an English native speaker
[19:11] <Henry_BR> rtgz: ok, thanks, i'm going. bye
[19:30] <sampattuzzi> Does the desktopcouch UI for pairing computer exist in Karmic or is it still in development?
[20:30] <mandel> hello, is anyone getting this from the trunk of desktopcocuh: File "desktopcouch/local_files.py", line 68, in __init__
[20:30] <mandel>     admin_password = _self._make_random_string(10)
[20:30] <mandel> NameError: global name '_self' is not defined