[00:08] Is there a different channel for the new Alpha release or am I in the right place? [00:08] trimmer, #ubuntu+1 [00:09] They support the Alpha release of xubuntu too? [00:12] well, that's the most appropriate place. bug reports are not seriously being taken in yet [00:12] you could also ask #xubuntu-devel, but it seems to be a bit quiet right now [00:16] No questions, I just wanted everyone to know that I am seeding the torrent, just kind of wondering why there aren't more people seeding. [00:17] i will right now... [00:17] it's still quite fresh [00:17] thnx for letting us now [00:17] :] [00:17] i wanted to test xubuntu 10.04 disk [00:18] i will post it to forums right away [00:18] * djura-san should stop now songs dl. it seems that wget script is working well :) [00:18] songs? [00:19] nah... i found some nice site with songs. some guy is uploading hiw promo sets so i download them. they sounds nice :) [00:19] *his [00:20] heh [00:20] btw im gonna seed xubuntu 32 bit. at the moment i can leave my pc over night [00:20] what kind of music? [00:20] trance, ambient, psy, dance... [00:21] oh my... just one seed [00:23] what now? i think i will start wget for xubuntu for this version... [00:23] aha [00:23] there it is [00:23] one peer is seeding :) [00:23] only 7h to go [00:24] thank you trimmer [00:26] djura-san, you could download the iso straight from cdimage.ubuntu.com ;) [00:26] nah [00:27] this way i can seed torrent [00:27] still its slow... [00:27] i will think about it [00:28] djura-san, you can dl the file and then seed the file [00:28] :P [00:28] feel free to point to http://open.knome.fi/2009/12/12/xubuntu-lucid-alpha-1/ [00:28] hi people, is there a way to install thunderbird 3.0 for xubuntu 9.04? [00:29] the post should soon be aggregated to planet.ubuntu.com as well [00:29] visitor1, download it from official site and use it. Just download an extract to desired directory [00:29] knome, ok [00:32] its up knome (btw i like the design of blog :) [00:32] djura-san, thanks :) [00:33] wow... you are the leader of shimmer project. i like that project. nice [00:33] :D [00:34] djura-san, i have downloaded it now, do i have it to extract to the old mozilla thunderbird folder? [00:34] no [00:35] extract it elsewere [00:35] wow [00:35] djura-san, heh [00:36] and yeah: fell free to modify my post however you want. massage will be the same anyway ;) [00:36] massage? where can i get a massage? [00:36] message [00:36] ;)) [00:36] :\ [00:37] stupid keyboard and writing in dark [00:37] comment approved [00:38] cdimage.ubuntu.com is slow as crap :( [00:40] hmm [00:41] maybe people are downloading the xubuntu alpha image now ;) [00:41] i am :D [00:41] :) [00:41] dunix how about torrent? do you have time for that? [00:41] please... :) [00:42] unfortunately my ISP throttles torrent traffic big time [00:42] ok [00:42] so i'd only have a 20kb down and 2kb up [00:42] Not a fan... [00:42] dont waste it then. use full speed ftp/http [00:42] :D [00:42] i have a 2mbps connection ;) [00:43] fans are boring anyway as they just imitate wind [00:43] Just torrent traffic that is crap, due to bandwidth shapeing [00:43] nice. is that 2048kbps? [00:43] sure [00:43] im 1mbps [00:44] knome, what? [00:44] Fans are great imo. [00:44] * djura-san just notified people at our forum about this (alpha 1) [00:44] especially if you don't have AC :p [00:44] hehe [00:44] djura-san, i'm just making fun of synonyms. [00:45] knome, yeah... im not so used to En since i dont use it often [00:45] heh [00:46] anyboday ever tried out steem the st emulator under xubuntu 9.04, ihave sound problems becuase of uneven speed [00:46] btw i think that aspell is somehow not doing this good in xchat. i think im mistaking too much [00:46] i probably write/read more english than finnish (my native) [00:46] i tried renice but to no avail [00:46] visitor1, st emulator? [00:46] yes knome ? atari st [00:46] right... [00:46] haven't tried ;) [00:48] aha... 30mb and running [00:48] :] [00:56] djura-san, how do i get the old emails into new thunderbird? [00:56] well it should load ~/.mozilla dir (or was it ~/.thunderbird?) [00:56] by default [00:57] .mozilla-thunderbird [00:58] visitor1, it should load that. [00:58] * djura-san has only tb 2.0.1x [00:59] does it work? [00:59] nope, i exported the adress book form the old one and imported it into 3.0 but i cant do that with the messages [01:00] no. you dont have to import that. you just have to copy your old dir to new path (if any) [01:03] hmmm [01:03] any luck? [01:04] copying.... [01:04] speaking of tb, what dir now it uses? [01:05] what "dotdir" in ~/ ? [01:08] .thunderbird [01:08] okay [01:09] i think itsworking.... [01:10] yay [01:13] aha [01:13] 2 seeds now [01:13] :P [01:13] what are you downloading? [01:14] xubuntu 10.04 alpha 1 [01:15] i have now the sent emails, but not the received,hmmmm..... [01:15] maybe diff dir? [01:15] try to set up default tb 3.0 and then compare directories [01:16] in 2.0 and 3.0 [01:16] maybe no one likes you? and didn't send you any emails? ;) [01:16] :] [01:47] i seem to have now all messages and adresses in thunderbird 3.0 :), only problem is that a i have a few double folders and stuff so i have to clean up, thanks fo your help djura-san [01:48] how did you do that? [01:48] i mean i have not tried tb 3 [01:48] did you just copy dirs from tb 2 to tb 3? [01:49] well just like you said, i donwloaded and extracted tb3, then i told tb3 where my backup folder from tb2 is and after a few restarts he found sent and received folder [01:50] nice. i was happy to help you [01:51] :] [01:51] my backup folder was just the complete .mozilla-thunderbird [02:11] 1/4 of xubuntu is down [02:11] i should go to bed now since its 3 am [02:12] good night. im gonna seed torrent so fell free to use my network :] [02:13] heh [02:13] night [02:22] <_Techie_> join #xbmc [02:22] <_Techie_> gah, stupid xchat switching channels on load [05:07] I have a login issue, can't get into xfce sessions, only xterm. I'm useless without a full GUI [06:46] howdy yall [06:47] i'm hackin up a lung right now, bleach always gets to me lol [06:49] i gave kubuntu a try 2 days ago for the first time in 2 years. i still hated it lol [06:50] the kpackage or whatever its called doesn't display anything when typing for what you wanna install. i guess you gotta know exactly how things are spelled or else lol [06:50] anyone here? [07:03] djura-san, was that you leeching? [07:05] So, I have some work to do. I plan to have a working .vdi for Lucid this weekend. [07:42] i am going to install computer janitor on my xubuntu computer, which is the correct one, computer janitor-or-computer janitor gtk? it is offerning me both of them? [07:44] using synaptic manager.... [07:46] <_Pete_> the one without gtk works only from cmdline and other has GTK gui [07:47] <_Pete_> so up to you which one you like to use [07:48] ok thanks _Pete_ [07:50] <_Techie_> oh, hello bal havent talked in awhile [07:50] where have ya been Spain? MAdrid? [07:50] <_Techie_> mates place [07:50] <_Techie_> physically [07:52] figure i outta do lil maintenance to this xubuntu computer, though it doesn't seem to need it... [07:56] hmm, 1st little bug i ever saw in buntu, after i installed it, the little circle wouldn't stop spinning even though it said install was complete and changes made? [08:01] brb [10:42] hi, anyone active ? [11:13] o/ all [11:14] xubuntu 10.04 is done :] [11:25] yay... md5sum is okay. now i have to clean potatoes and clean house and im gonna try xubuntu 10.04 a1 :) [11:30] <_Techie_> wow djura-san alpha testing, thats gutsy [11:38] hola como estas [11:38] <_Techie_> hello cheeko [11:40] does xubuntu support plymoth [11:40] <_Techie_> im not sure [11:41] cheeko: no, xubuntu uses gdm [11:41] cheeko: ah, sorry [11:41] cheeko: it uses grub2 [11:41] so is ther any way i could integarte it [11:42] cheeko: probably, but it's not officially supported [11:43] cheeko: it's a redhat thing [11:44] so fedora would support it right [11:44] I have no idea, I don't follow redhat and related projects [11:45] you might want to read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965338 [11:50] hp dv7 3065dx is my laptop i have a problem with sound [11:52] TheSheep: can u give me lending hand perhaps [11:52] cheeko: no, I didn't even know what plymouth was 10 seconds ago [11:53] its ok even i dont know certain things [11:53] what is plymouth [11:54] g3nt3lg1ant: plymoth is just like grub but graphically good [11:55] g3nt3lg1ant: download the latesr knoppix 6.2 probably [12:02] TheSheep: uder? [12:03] cheeko: pardon? [12:03] i have some prob wid sound [12:04] can i pm u TheSheep [12:06] we solve problems here in public so that everyone can benefit [12:06] people learn this way [12:15] can anyone help me to get my sound working???. [12:23] g3nt3lg1ant, I instaled pulseaudio yesterday and it started to work [12:29] i have few pcs in my college library where two computers have installed xubuntu [12:29] but those two pcs are password protected by the students who installed it [12:29] lvzimmer, what os are you using??? xubuntu, kubuntu , or ubuntu??? [12:30] g3nt3lg1ant, how is your sound broken? [12:30] so it is problematic for students who wanna u se them [12:30] is ther any way others can use [12:30] its not working [12:30] cheeko, well, if you know how, you can bypass the password [12:30] its not working, knome [12:30] g3nt3lg1ant, I am using xubuntu [12:30] <_Techie_> cheeko, i have a few ideas [12:30] yes techie [12:31] <_Techie_> it all depends on how they passworded them though [12:31] g3nt3lg1ant, "it's not working" is not a decent error description [12:31] g3nt3lg1ant, i checked my sound now it was muted, but is working [12:31] _Techie_: ur ideas are welcome [12:32] <_Techie_> cheeko, first i wish to know how they passworded them, do they have passworded bios's or just passworded xubuntu logons? [12:32] just xubuntu passwords [12:32] login [12:32] Error: You are not identified [12:33] _Techie_, cheeko; even if it's better to handle most stuff at the channel, you might want to have this conversation on a query :) [12:33] <_Techie_> i see where your coming from knome [12:33] lvzimmer, knome: my sound is just not working [12:33] g3nt3lg1ant, which xubuntu version? [12:33] i am using ubuntu [12:33] g3nt3lg1ant, #ubuntu [12:35] yeah i know, just wanted to see if anyone can give me advice:knome [12:35] g3nt3lg1ant, one some things we might be able to help, but afaik, the ways to fix sound in ubuntu and xubuntu differ a bit [12:36] g3nt3lg1ant, or at least have different preferred solutions. so it's better to ask #ubuntu [12:36] okay thanks for the help. knome [12:36] g3nt3lg1ant, np. good luck [12:49] so [12:50] i have q: since i have no ways to install a1 to my pc is vbox and live disc testing okay? [12:57] btw is somebody leching xubuntu torrent here? [13:09] djura-san, those testing methods are needed and welcome as well [13:09] djura-san, escpecially live cd [13:09] okay [13:09] i will do that (in few hours since somebody is leeching torrent right now) [13:10] :) [13:10] i will do the alternate disc testing but not now. maybe in beta1 :] [13:10] yeah [13:10] the guy by the nick charlie-tca is the right guy to ask things about testing [13:10] im interested in that version. [13:11] okay. my xchat log will have that in mind for me. [13:11] :D [13:11] :) [13:12] i lives in the states so expect online times by daytime in his timezone [13:12] okay [13:13] right now it about 7-8 pm right? [13:13] or 10? [13:13] 7-8am more likely [13:13] a... [13:13] too early then [13:14] probably a bit [13:14] for nerds there is no such thing as early or late right? [13:14] :D [13:17] charlie usually does have some kind of sleeping rhytm [13:18] and he might not be online every day [13:18] lucky for him [13:25] oh... now there are 2 leches... my children are growing up :) [13:25] i should play some nwn to kill time [13:25] hehe [13:25] * djura-san is going to fry demons with fireballs :] [13:26] * knome is soon going to have a shower ... [13:26] knome, that works too. [13:26] :D [13:27] cast: Extended irc away status.... === bittin_ is now known as bittin^ [13:36] anyone know why my screensaver won't work at all? [13:36] it just never engages [13:37] most of the time it just shuts off the monitors [13:38] venice do "ps aux | grep "gnome-screensaver" | grep -v grep" in terminal [13:38] *venim [13:39] venim 6707 0.0 0.1 170884 4412 ? Ss Dec11 0:00 gnome-screensaver [13:39] so it works [13:39] now try this [13:39] i knew i have it installed, it just never engages [13:40] what about "settings > screensaver" options? [13:40] that's what i've been doing [13:41] xubuntu by default uses no ss (not on my fresh installation anyway) [13:41] yeah [13:41] its not listening to those settings [13:41] did you tried to change that? [13:41] aha [13:42] here, let me try it again with a 1minute idle time [13:42] try [13:43] * djura-san note to myself: ask for xscreensaver in 10.04 [13:43] yeah [13:43] didn't work [13:43] and last night it didn't even shut down the monitors [13:43] i woke up and they were on [13:44] o hmmm [13:44] i can apparently upgrade gnome-screensaver [13:44] yeah... yesterday there was update [13:44] didnt try [13:52] yeah, its not even kicking in at this point [13:52] huh [13:52] hmmm [13:52] maybe i'll just replace it with xcreensaver? [13:53] hmmm [13:53] its the easiest choice but im thinking how to force gnome ss to use your settings [13:53] maybe its a problem in my startup [13:53] maybe to load settings directly to your gconf? [13:53] startuP? [13:53] like, the gnome-screensaver daemon [13:54] ** (gnome-screensaver:4374): WARNING **: Failed to get session presence proxy: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SessionManager': no such name [13:54] not sure... did you changed anything? [13:54] no [13:54] 1s [13:54] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195557 [13:55] that looks decent enough [13:56] let me see [13:56] stupid lag... [13:58] well you could do that. btw did you enabled gnoem services at xfce start? im not sure but maybe gnome ss is starting trought gnome-settings-daemon !? [13:59] olook at that [13:59] yeah, gnome-services are starting [13:59] huh... not sure waht to do next [13:59] *what [14:01] well i replaced it [14:01] and it seems to work just fine [14:01] why is is showing session manager error... Maybe its some permission error. did you asked folks at #ubuntu? Maybe somebody had same error [14:01] ? [14:01] i'm using xscreensaver now [14:03] okay. still you *could* report that to #ubutnu if you have the time [14:03] yeah [14:04] * djura-san is bashing stupid keyboard becuse its making so many errors [14:39] On Xubuntu how do I change settings to allow remote desktop viewing [14:51] Shawn-, you have to start vinagre: Start menu > Network > Remote desktop viewer [14:52] djura-san, too late [14:52] yeah... [14:53] ima goinng to boot xubuntu now. i ahve to do much things latter so now is the time to do it [14:53] wish me luck [14:53] :D [15:01] for starters it work... [15:01] >( [15:01] stypid layot [15:01] :) [15:03] btw knome since you and your team developing albatros there is on thing... you should lighten panels a little. they are too dark right now [15:03] just my 2c [15:04] that was one of the considerations then. i actually wanted them to be darker. [15:04] then==when we were finishing it off for karmic [15:04] are they now... what like: #222? [15:04] something like that maybe [15:04] ok [15:04] i would have wanted #111 [15:04] ;P [15:05] or maybe #151515 [15:05] then base colour should not be fff since it is like contrast ;) [15:05] the base color shouldn't be #fff [15:05] i think the panels are quite well balanced in terms of contrast [15:05] maybe there could be a hint more contrast [15:06] not base sorry. base is white [15:06] (just got told that some of the items are hard to see if you have a bad monitor/eyesight) [15:06] * djura-san has very old monitor right now so it must be it [15:06] SiDi/dashua know more about this, you can contact them at #shimmer [15:08] its time to bother elementary dev (Dan right?) to create dirs for xdg :) [15:09] djura-san, him or the shimmer team, so we can add them specifically for the (x)ubuntu package [15:09] so, where to report bugs? To #xubuntu-devel? [15:09] umh, launchpad [15:10] knome, yeah but if he creates this in his base package then all users of xdg thingy can use that :) [15:10] against xubuntu-artwork for now [15:10] djura-san, that's okay as well. [15:10] djura-san, but probably we're going to modify some of the icons anyway [15:10] okay. loader (mice) is not showing well at load... [15:10] also notifier is messed up [15:14] where exactly should i post bugs from a1? [15:17] well, kind of nowhere, but if somewhere, then launchpad [15:17] should i follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing then? [15:17] just notify us on #xubuntu-devel of the smaller things [15:18] yes, that's a good testing routine [15:18] but again, please ask charlie-tca. he can answer you better than me [15:19] i have to go now, i can't miss the next train [15:19] see you later [15:20] o/ [15:51] im considering installing xubuntu on my parents computer, have som questions though [15:51] okay [15:51] shot [15:51] or something like that :) [15:52] would any1 like to answer my questions? :P [15:52] what is the prob? tell us [15:53] my father use kurdish fonts, mostly for reading but for writing also i think [15:53] would ther eb e any problems doing so in xubuntu? [15:53] i dont think that there will be any problems. just use your language packs for that. [15:54] ok is it difficult to getting it to work? [15:54] or you can just use keyboard map for keyboard layouts [15:55] ok sounds good then [15:55] right now i am sitting on ubuntu, and the live tv-programs wont work [15:55] it just keeps loading [15:56] as for kurdish: see for your dad what he really wants. if you need only letters then use keyboard map for that. also i belive that there is xubuntu local tranlastion for kurdish :) [15:57] as for tv stations: how did you tried to load them ad in what program? [15:57] *and [15:58] in firefox, the program runs i flash [15:58] btw use: setxkbmap ku to quickly set up kurdish keyboard (do that in terminal) ;) [15:59] did you have the latest flash? [15:59] *do you have [15:59] dunno what flash i have how can i know? [16:00] hmmm [16:00] type in firefox address bar: [16:00] about:plugins [16:00] ok [16:00] search for flash/shockwave plugins [16:01] yeah it says Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42 [16:02] okay [16:02] so [16:03] thats te latest version [16:03] *is [16:03] ok :/ [16:04] well im not sure now. does it starts at all? picture? [16:04] is your net connection active when loading that page? [16:04] yes [16:05] the page is loaded but tha loading bar in the screen keeps going [16:05] did you tried in other browsers? chrome maybe? opera? [16:06] maybe it requires java? [16:07] dont know actually however maybe the site is just bad at the moment [16:07] maybe [16:07] ill think i better check again later [16:07] thanks for the help! [16:07] ;) === u_naughty_cheeko is now known as cheeko [19:20] hey, im having problems with the livecd [19:20] i dont know what the login is >.< [19:20] lol! [19:21] i have been using 'ubuntu' username with no pass [19:31] <_Techie_> plain, that is the login for th elivecd [19:36] wow... 5 leches :) [19:45] <_Techie_> djura-san, why do you wish to test te alpha? [19:54] i dont know... [19:54] i love lts principes so i would like to be part of creation of that release [19:55] it will be the sys that i will keep at least 2y on my pc so... [20:00] <_Techie_> fair enough djura-san, but still alpha testing an OS is suicide [20:00] aon the top of that i dont see any point to leave testing just for devs since im using (and my friend, and his friend and some user in africa, australia, us)... [20:00] *on [20:01] _Techie_, i tried it today and it looks like (and apps are like) in 9.10 [20:01] :) [20:01] <_Techie_> that would probably be because most of the upgrades havent been made yet, its only been 1 month and 13 days since the release of karmic [20:01] of course [20:01] :) [20:02] still in 10.04 i dont expect any radical change [20:02] ;) [20:02]