[00:08] <trimmer> Is there a different channel for the  new Alpha release or am I in the right place?
[00:08] <knome> trimmer, #ubuntu+1
[00:09] <trimmer> They support the Alpha release of xubuntu too?
[00:12] <knome> well, that's the most appropriate place. bug reports are not seriously being taken in yet
[00:12] <knome> you could also ask #xubuntu-devel, but it seems to be a bit quiet right now
[00:16] <trimmer> No questions, I just wanted everyone to know that I am seeding the torrent, just kind of wondering why there aren't more people seeding.
[00:17] <djura-san> i will right now...
[00:17] <knome> it's still quite fresh
[00:17] <djura-san> thnx for letting us now
[00:17] <knome> :]
[00:17] <djura-san> i wanted to test xubuntu 10.04 disk
[00:18] <djura-san> i will post it to forums right away
[00:18]  * djura-san should stop now songs dl. it seems that wget script is working well :)
[00:18] <knome> songs?
[00:19] <djura-san> nah... i found some nice site with songs. some guy is uploading hiw promo sets so i download them. they sounds nice :)
[00:19] <djura-san> *his
[00:20] <knome> heh
[00:20] <djura-san> btw im gonna seed xubuntu 32 bit. at the moment i can leave my pc over night
[00:20] <knome> what kind of music?
[00:20] <djura-san> trance, ambient, psy, dance...
[00:21] <djura-san> oh my... just one seed
[00:23] <djura-san> what now? i think i will start wget for xubuntu for this version...
[00:23] <djura-san> aha
[00:23] <djura-san> there it is
[00:23] <djura-san> one peer is seeding :)
[00:23] <djura-san> only 7h to go
[00:24] <djura-san> thank you trimmer
[00:26] <knome> djura-san, you could download the iso straight from cdimage.ubuntu.com ;)
[00:26] <djura-san> nah
[00:27] <djura-san> this way i can seed torrent
[00:27] <djura-san> still its slow...
[00:27] <djura-san> i will think about it
[00:28] <knome> djura-san, you can dl the file and then seed the file
[00:28] <knome> :P
[00:28] <knome> feel free to point to http://open.knome.fi/2009/12/12/xubuntu-lucid-alpha-1/
[00:28] <visitor1> hi people, is there a way to install thunderbird 3.0 for xubuntu 9.04?
[00:29] <knome> the post should soon be aggregated to planet.ubuntu.com as well
[00:29] <djura-san> visitor1, download it from official site and use it. Just download an extract to desired directory
[00:29] <djura-san> knome, ok
[00:32] <djura-san> its up knome (btw i like the design of blog :)
[00:32] <knome> djura-san, thanks :)
[00:33] <djura-san> wow... you are the leader of shimmer project. i like that project. nice
[00:33] <djura-san> :D
[00:34] <visitor1> djura-san, i have downloaded it now, do i have it to extract to the old mozilla thunderbird folder?
[00:34] <djura-san> no
[00:35] <djura-san> extract it elsewere
[00:35] <djura-san> wow
[00:35] <knome> djura-san, heh
[00:36] <djura-san> and yeah: fell free to modify my post however you want. massage will be the same anyway ;)
[00:36] <knome> massage? where can i get a massage?
[00:36] <djura-san> message
[00:36] <knome> ;))
[00:36] <djura-san> :\
[00:37] <djura-san> stupid keyboard and writing in dark
[00:37] <knome> comment approved
[00:38] <dunix> cdimage.ubuntu.com is slow as crap :(
[00:40] <knome> hmm
[00:41] <knome> maybe people are downloading the xubuntu alpha image now ;)
[00:41] <dunix> i am :D
[00:41] <djura-san> :)
[00:41] <djura-san> dunix how about torrent? do you have time for that?
[00:41] <djura-san> please... :)
[00:42] <dunix> unfortunately my ISP throttles torrent traffic big time
[00:42] <djura-san> ok
[00:42] <dunix> so i'd only have a 20kb down and 2kb up
[00:42] <dunix> Not a fan...
[00:42] <djura-san> dont waste it then. use full speed ftp/http
[00:42] <djura-san> :D
[00:42] <dunix> i have a 2mbps connection ;)
[00:43] <knome> fans are boring anyway as they just imitate wind
[00:43] <dunix> Just torrent traffic that is crap, due to bandwidth shapeing
[00:43] <djura-san> nice. is that 2048kbps?
[00:43] <dunix> sure
[00:43] <djura-san> im 1mbps
[00:44] <djura-san> knome, what?
[00:44] <dunix> Fans are great imo.
[00:44]  * djura-san just notified people at our forum about this (alpha 1)
[00:44] <dunix> especially if you don't have AC :p
[00:44] <knome> hehe
[00:44] <knome> djura-san, i'm just making fun of synonyms.
[00:45] <djura-san> knome, yeah... im not so used to En since i dont use it often
[00:45] <knome> heh
[00:46] <visitor1> anyboday ever tried out steem the st emulator under xubuntu 9.04, ihave sound problems becuase of uneven speed
[00:46] <djura-san> btw i think that aspell is somehow not doing this good in xchat. i think im mistaking too much
[00:46] <knome> i probably write/read more english than finnish (my native)
[00:46] <visitor1> i tried renice but to no avail
[00:46] <knome> visitor1, st emulator?
[00:46] <visitor1> yes knome ? atari st
[00:46] <knome> right...
[00:46] <knome> haven't tried ;)
[00:48] <djura-san> aha... 30mb and running
[00:48] <djura-san> :]
[00:56] <visitor1> djura-san, how do i get the old emails into new thunderbird?
[00:56] <djura-san> well it should load ~/.mozilla dir (or was it ~/.thunderbird?)
[00:56] <djura-san> by default
[00:57] <visitor1> .mozilla-thunderbird
[00:58] <djura-san> visitor1, it should load that.
[00:58]  * djura-san has only tb 2.0.1x
[00:59] <djura-san> does it work?
[00:59] <visitor1> nope, i exported the adress book form the old one and imported it into 3.0 but i cant do that with the messages
[01:00] <djura-san> no. you dont have to import that. you just have to copy your old dir to new path (if any)
[01:03] <visitor1> hmmm
[01:03] <djura-san> any luck?
[01:04] <visitor1> copying....
[01:04] <djura-san> speaking of tb, what dir now it uses?
[01:05] <djura-san> what "dotdir" in ~/ ?
[01:08] <visitor1> .thunderbird
[01:08] <djura-san> okay
[01:09] <visitor1> i think itsworking....
[01:10] <djura-san> yay
[01:13] <djura-san> aha
[01:13] <djura-san> 2 seeds now
[01:13] <djura-san> :P
[01:13] <visitor1> what are you downloading?
[01:14] <djura-san> xubuntu 10.04 alpha 1
[01:15] <visitor1> i have now the sent emails, but not the received,hmmmm.....
[01:15] <djura-san> maybe diff dir?
[01:15] <djura-san> try to set up default tb 3.0 and then compare directories
[01:16] <djura-san> in 2.0 and 3.0
[01:16] <dunix> maybe no one likes you? and didn't send you any emails? ;)
[01:16] <djura-san> :]
[01:47] <visitor1> i seem to have now all messages and adresses in thunderbird 3.0 :), only problem is that a i have a few double folders and stuff so i have to clean up, thanks fo your help djura-san
[01:48] <djura-san> how did you do that?
[01:48] <djura-san> i mean i have not tried tb 3
[01:48] <djura-san> did you just copy dirs from tb 2 to tb 3?
[01:49] <visitor1> well just like you said, i donwloaded and extracted tb3, then i told tb3 where my backup folder from tb2 is and after a few restarts he found sent and received folder
[01:50] <djura-san> nice. i was happy to help you
[01:51] <djura-san> :]
[01:51] <visitor1> my backup folder was just the complete .mozilla-thunderbird
[02:11] <djura-san> 1/4 of xubuntu is down
[02:11] <djura-san> i should go to bed now since its 3 am
[02:12] <djura-san> good night. im gonna seed torrent so fell free to use my network :]
[02:13] <knome> heh
[02:13] <knome> night
[02:22] <_Techie_> join #xbmc
[02:22] <_Techie_> gah, stupid xchat switching channels on load
[05:07] <Twitch> I have a login issue, can't get into xfce sessions, only xterm. I'm useless without a full GUI
[06:46] <oorah> howdy yall
[06:47] <oorah> i'm hackin up a lung right now, bleach always gets to me lol
[06:49] <oorah> i gave kubuntu a try 2 days ago for the first time in 2 years. i still hated it lol
[06:50] <oorah> the kpackage or whatever its called doesn't display anything when typing for what you wanna install. i guess you gotta know exactly how things are spelled or else lol
[06:50] <oorah> anyone here?
[07:03] <trimmer> djura-san, was that you leeching?
[07:05] <trimmer> So, I have some work to do. I plan to have a working .vdi for Lucid this weekend.
[07:42] <Balsaq> i am going to install computer janitor on my xubuntu computer, which is the correct one, computer janitor-or-computer janitor gtk? it is offerning me both of them?
[07:44] <Balsaq> using synaptic manager....
[07:46] <_Pete_> the one without gtk works only from cmdline and other has GTK gui
[07:47] <_Pete_> so up to you which one you like to use
[07:48] <Balsaq> ok thanks _Pete_
[07:50] <_Techie_> oh, hello bal havent talked in awhile
[07:50] <Balsaq> where have ya been Spain? MAdrid?
[07:50] <_Techie_> mates place
[07:50] <_Techie_> physically
[07:52] <Balsaq> figure i outta do lil maintenance to this xubuntu computer, though it doesn't seem to need it...
[07:56] <Balsaq> hmm, 1st little bug i ever saw in buntu, after i installed it, the little circle wouldn't stop spinning even though it said install was complete and changes made?
[08:01] <Balsaq> brb
[10:42] <Newbie-Widget> hi, anyone active ?
[11:13] <djura-san> o/ all
[11:14] <djura-san> xubuntu 10.04 is done :]
[11:25] <djura-san> yay... md5sum is okay. now i have to clean potatoes and clean house and im gonna try xubuntu 10.04 a1 :)
[11:30] <_Techie_> wow djura-san alpha testing, thats gutsy
[11:38] <cheeko> hola como estas
[11:38] <_Techie_> hello cheeko
[11:40] <cheeko> does xubuntu support plymoth
[11:40] <_Techie_> im not sure
[11:41] <TheSheep> cheeko: no, xubuntu uses gdm
[11:41] <TheSheep> cheeko: ah, sorry
[11:41] <TheSheep> cheeko: it uses grub2
[11:41] <cheeko> so is ther any way i could integarte it
[11:42] <TheSheep> cheeko: probably, but it's not officially supported
[11:43] <TheSheep> cheeko: it's a redhat thing
[11:44] <cheeko> so fedora would support it right
[11:44] <TheSheep> I have no idea, I don't follow redhat and related projects
[11:45] <TheSheep> you might want to read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965338
[11:50] <cheeko> hp dv7 3065dx is my laptop i have a problem with sound
[11:52] <cheeko> TheSheep: can u give me lending hand perhaps
[11:52] <TheSheep> cheeko: no, I didn't even know what plymouth was 10 seconds ago
[11:53] <cheeko> its ok even i dont know certain things
[11:53] <g3nt3lg1ant> what is plymouth
[11:54] <cheeko> g3nt3lg1ant: plymoth is just like grub but graphically good
[11:55] <cheeko> g3nt3lg1ant: download the latesr knoppix 6.2 probably
[12:02] <cheeko> TheSheep: uder?
[12:03] <TheSheep> cheeko: pardon?
[12:03] <cheeko> i have some prob wid sound
[12:04] <cheeko> can i pm u TheSheep
[12:06] <TheSheep> we solve problems here in public so that everyone can benefit
[12:06] <TheSheep> people learn this way
[12:15] <g3nt3lg1ant> can anyone help me to get my sound working???.
[12:23] <lvzimmer> g3nt3lg1ant, I instaled pulseaudio yesterday and it started to work
[12:29] <cheeko> i have few pcs in my college library where two computers have installed xubuntu
[12:29] <cheeko> but those two pcs are password protected by the students who installed it
[12:29] <g3nt3lg1ant> lvzimmer, what os are you using??? xubuntu, kubuntu , or ubuntu???
[12:30] <knome> g3nt3lg1ant, how is your sound broken?
[12:30] <cheeko> so it is problematic for students who wanna u se them
[12:30] <cheeko> is ther any way others can use
[12:30] <g3nt3lg1ant> its not working
[12:30] <knome> cheeko, well, if you know how, you can bypass the password
[12:30] <g3nt3lg1ant> its not working, knome
[12:30] <lvzimmer> g3nt3lg1ant, I am using xubuntu
[12:30] <_Techie_> cheeko, i have a few ideas
[12:30] <cheeko> yes techie
[12:31] <_Techie_> it all depends on how they passworded them though
[12:31] <knome> g3nt3lg1ant, "it's not working" is not a decent error description
[12:31] <lvzimmer> g3nt3lg1ant, i checked my sound now it was muted, but is working
[12:31] <cheeko> _Techie_: ur ideas are welcome
[12:32] <_Techie_> cheeko, first i wish to know how they passworded them, do they have passworded bios's or just passworded xubuntu logons?
[12:32] <cheeko> just xubuntu passwords
[12:32] <cheeko> login
[12:33] <knome> _Techie_, cheeko; even if it's better to handle most stuff at the channel, you might want to have this conversation on a query :)
[12:33] <_Techie_> i see where your coming from knome
[12:33] <g3nt3lg1ant> lvzimmer, knome: my sound is just not working
[12:33] <knome> g3nt3lg1ant, which xubuntu version?
[12:33] <g3nt3lg1ant> i am using ubuntu
[12:33] <knome> g3nt3lg1ant, #ubuntu
[12:35] <g3nt3lg1ant> yeah i know, just wanted to see if anyone can give me advice:knome
[12:35] <knome> g3nt3lg1ant, one some things we might be able to help, but afaik, the ways to fix sound in ubuntu and xubuntu differ a bit
[12:36] <knome> g3nt3lg1ant, or at least have different preferred solutions. so it's better to ask #ubuntu
[12:36] <g3nt3lg1ant> okay thanks for the help. knome
[12:36] <knome> g3nt3lg1ant, np. good luck
[12:49] <djura-san> so
[12:50] <djura-san> i have q: since i have no ways to install a1 to my pc is vbox and live disc testing okay?
[12:57] <djura-san> btw is somebody leching xubuntu torrent here?
[13:09] <knome> djura-san, those testing methods are needed and welcome as well
[13:09] <knome> djura-san, escpecially live cd
[13:09] <djura-san> okay
[13:09] <djura-san> i will do that (in few hours since somebody is leeching torrent right now)
[13:10] <knome> :)
[13:10] <djura-san> i will do the alternate disc testing but not now. maybe in beta1 :]
[13:10] <knome> yeah
[13:10] <knome> the guy by the nick charlie-tca is the right guy to ask things about testing
[13:10] <djura-san> im interested in that version.
[13:11] <djura-san> okay. my xchat log will have that in mind for me.
[13:11] <djura-san> :D
[13:11] <knome> :)
[13:12] <knome> i lives in the states so expect online times by daytime in his timezone
[13:12] <djura-san> okay
[13:13] <djura-san> right now it about 7-8 pm right?
[13:13] <djura-san> or 10?
[13:13] <knome> 7-8am more likely
[13:13] <djura-san> a...
[13:13] <djura-san> too early then
[13:14] <knome> probably a bit
[13:14] <djura-san> for nerds there is no such thing as early or late right?
[13:14] <djura-san> :D
[13:17] <knome> charlie usually does have some kind of sleeping rhytm
[13:18] <knome> and he might not be online every day
[13:18] <djura-san> lucky for him
[13:25] <djura-san> oh... now there are 2 leches... my children are growing up :)
[13:25] <djura-san> i should play some nwn to kill time
[13:25] <knome> hehe
[13:25]  * djura-san is going to fry demons with fireballs :]
[13:26]  * knome is soon going to have a shower ...
[13:26] <djura-san> knome, that works too.
[13:26] <djura-san> :D
[13:27] <djura-san> cast: Extended irc away status....
[13:36] <Venim> anyone know why my screensaver won't work at all?
[13:36] <Venim> it just never engages
[13:37] <Venim> most of the time it just shuts off the monitors
[13:38] <djura-san> venice do "ps aux | grep "gnome-screensaver" | grep -v grep" in terminal
[13:38] <djura-san> *venim
[13:39] <Venim> venim     6707  0.0  0.1 170884  4412 ?        Ss   Dec11   0:00 gnome-screensaver
[13:39] <djura-san> so it works
[13:39] <djura-san> now try this
[13:39] <Venim> i knew i have it installed, it just never engages
[13:40] <djura-san> what about "settings > screensaver" options?
[13:40] <Venim> that's what i've been doing
[13:41] <djura-san> xubuntu by default uses no ss (not on my fresh installation anyway)
[13:41] <Venim> yeah
[13:41] <Venim> its not listening to those settings
[13:41] <djura-san> did you tried to change that?
[13:41] <djura-san> aha
[13:42] <Venim> here, let me try it again with a 1minute idle time
[13:42] <djura-san> try
[13:43]  * djura-san note to myself: ask for xscreensaver in 10.04
[13:43] <Venim> yeah
[13:43] <Venim> didn't work
[13:43] <Venim> and last night it didn't even shut down the monitors
[13:43] <Venim> i woke up and they were on
[13:44] <Venim> o hmmm
[13:44] <Venim> i can apparently upgrade gnome-screensaver
[13:44] <djura-san> yeah... yesterday there was update
[13:44] <djura-san> didnt try
[13:52] <Venim> yeah, its not even kicking in at this point
[13:52] <djura-san> huh
[13:52] <Venim> hmmm
[13:52] <Venim> maybe i'll just replace it with xcreensaver?
[13:53] <Venim> hmmm
[13:53] <djura-san> its the easiest choice but im thinking how to force gnome ss to use your settings
[13:53] <Venim> maybe its a problem in my startup
[13:53] <djura-san> maybe to load settings directly to your gconf?
[13:53] <djura-san> startuP?
[13:53] <Venim> like, the gnome-screensaver daemon
[13:54] <Venim> ** (gnome-screensaver:4374): WARNING **: Failed to get session presence proxy: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SessionManager': no such name
[13:54] <djura-san> not sure... did you changed anything?
[13:54] <Venim> no
[13:54] <djura-san> 1s
[13:54] <Venim> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195557
[13:55] <Venim> that looks decent enough
[13:56] <djura-san> let me see
[13:56] <djura-san> stupid lag...
[13:58] <djura-san> well you could do that. btw did you enabled gnoem services at xfce start? im not sure but maybe gnome ss is starting trought gnome-settings-daemon !?
[13:59] <Venim> olook at that
[13:59] <Venim> yeah, gnome-services are starting
[13:59] <djura-san> huh... not sure waht to do next
[13:59] <djura-san> *what
[14:01] <Venim> well i replaced it
[14:01] <Venim> and it seems to work just fine
[14:01] <djura-san> why is is showing session manager error... Maybe its some permission error. did you asked folks at #ubuntu? Maybe somebody had same error
[14:01] <djura-san> ?
[14:01] <Venim> i'm using xscreensaver now
[14:03] <djura-san> okay. still you *could* report that to #ubutnu if you have the time
[14:03] <Venim> yeah
[14:04]  * djura-san is bashing stupid keyboard becuse its making so many errors
[14:39] <Shawn-> On Xubuntu how do I change settings to allow remote desktop viewing
[14:51] <djura-san> Shawn-, you have to start vinagre: Start menu > Network > Remote desktop viewer
[14:52] <knome> djura-san, too late
[14:52] <djura-san> yeah...
[14:53] <djura-san> ima goinng to boot xubuntu now. i ahve to do much things latter so now is the time to do it
[14:53] <djura-san> wish me luck
[14:53] <djura-san> :D
[15:01] <djura-san> for starters it work...
[15:01] <djura-san> >(
[15:01] <djura-san> stypid layot
[15:01] <knome> :)
[15:03] <djura-san> btw knome since you and your team developing albatros there is on thing... you should lighten panels a little. they are too dark right now
[15:03] <djura-san> just my 2c
[15:04] <knome> that was one of the considerations then. i actually wanted them to be darker.
[15:04] <knome> then==when we were finishing it off for karmic
[15:04] <djura-san> are they now... what like: #222?
[15:04] <knome> something like that maybe
[15:04] <djura-san> ok
[15:04] <knome> i would have wanted #111
[15:04] <knome> ;P
[15:05] <knome> or maybe #151515
[15:05] <djura-san> then base colour should not be fff since it is like contrast ;)
[15:05] <knome> the base color shouldn't be #fff
[15:05] <knome> i think the panels are quite well balanced in terms of contrast
[15:05] <knome> maybe there could be a hint more contrast
[15:06] <djura-san> not base sorry. base is white
[15:06] <knome> (just got told that some of the items are hard to see if you have a bad monitor/eyesight)
[15:06]  * djura-san has very old monitor right now so it must be it
[15:06] <knome> SiDi/dashua know more about this, you can contact them at #shimmer
[15:08] <djura-san> its time to bother elementary dev (Dan right?) to  create dirs for xdg :)
[15:09] <knome> djura-san, him or the shimmer team, so we can add them specifically for the (x)ubuntu package
[15:09] <djura-san> so, where to report bugs? To #xubuntu-devel?
[15:09] <knome> umh, launchpad
[15:10] <djura-san> knome, yeah but if he creates this in his base package then all users of xdg thingy can use that :)
[15:10] <knome> against xubuntu-artwork for now
[15:10] <knome> djura-san, that's okay as well.
[15:10] <knome> djura-san, but probably we're going to modify some of the icons anyway
[15:10] <djura-san> okay. loader (mice) is not showing well at load...
[15:10] <djura-san> also notifier is messed up
[15:14] <djura-san> where exactly should i post bugs from a1?
[15:17] <knome> well, kind of nowhere, but if somewhere, then launchpad
[15:17] <djura-san> should i follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing then?
[15:17] <knome> just notify us on #xubuntu-devel of the smaller things
[15:18] <knome> yes, that's a good testing routine
[15:18] <knome> but again, please ask charlie-tca. he can answer you better than me
[15:19] <knome> i have to go now, i can't miss the next train
[15:19] <knome> see you later
[15:20] <djura-san> o/
[15:51] <aliquerer> im considering installing xubuntu on my parents computer, have som questions though
[15:51] <djura-san> okay
[15:51] <djura-san> shot
[15:51] <djura-san> or something like that :)
[15:52] <aliquerer> would any1 like to answer my questions? :P
[15:52] <djura-san> what is the prob? tell us
[15:53] <aliquerer> my father use kurdish fonts, mostly for reading but for writing also i think
[15:53] <aliquerer> would ther eb e any problems doing so in xubuntu?
[15:53] <djura-san> i dont think that there will be any problems. just use your language packs for that.
[15:54] <aliquerer> ok is it difficult to getting it to work?
[15:54] <djura-san> or you can just use keyboard map for keyboard layouts
[15:55] <aliquerer> ok sounds good then
[15:55] <aliquerer> right now i am sitting on ubuntu, and the live tv-programs wont work
[15:55] <aliquerer> it just keeps loading
[15:56] <djura-san> as for kurdish: see for your dad what he really wants. if you need only letters then use keyboard map for that. also i belive that there is xubuntu local tranlastion for kurdish :)
[15:57] <djura-san> as for tv stations: how did you tried to load them ad in what program?
[15:57] <djura-san> *and
[15:58] <aliquerer> in firefox, the program runs i flash
[15:58] <djura-san> btw use: setxkbmap ku to quickly set up kurdish keyboard (do that in terminal) ;)
[15:59] <djura-san> did you have the latest flash?
[15:59] <djura-san> *do you have
[15:59] <aliquerer> dunno what flash i have how can i know?
[16:00] <djura-san> hmmm
[16:00] <djura-san> type in firefox address bar:
[16:00] <djura-san> about:plugins
[16:00] <aliquerer> ok
[16:00] <djura-san> search for flash/shockwave plugins
[16:01] <aliquerer> yeah it says Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42
[16:02] <djura-san> okay
[16:02] <djura-san> so
[16:03] <djura-san> thats te latest version
[16:03] <djura-san> *is
[16:03] <aliquerer> ok :/
[16:04] <djura-san> well im not sure now. does it starts at all? picture?
[16:04] <djura-san> is your net connection active when loading that page?
[16:04] <aliquerer> yes
[16:05] <aliquerer> the page is loaded but tha loading bar in the screen keeps going
[16:05] <djura-san> did you tried in other browsers? chrome maybe? opera?
[16:06] <djura-san> maybe it requires java?
[16:07] <aliquerer> dont know actually however maybe the site is just bad at the moment
[16:07] <djura-san> maybe
[16:07] <aliquerer> ill think i better check again later
[16:07] <aliquerer> thanks for the help!
[16:07] <djura-san> ;)
[19:20] <plain> hey, im having problems with the livecd
[19:20] <plain> i dont know what the login is >.<
[19:20] <plain> lol!
[19:21] <plain> i have been using 'ubuntu' username with no pass
[19:31] <_Techie_> plain, that is the login for th elivecd
[19:36] <djura-san> wow... 5 leches :)
[19:45] <_Techie_> djura-san, why do you wish to test te alpha?
[19:54] <djura-san> i dont know...
[19:54] <djura-san> i love lts principes so i would like to be part of creation of that release
[19:55] <djura-san> it will be the sys that i will keep at least 2y on my pc so...
[20:00] <_Techie_> fair enough djura-san, but still alpha testing an OS is suicide
[20:00] <djura-san> aon the top of that i dont see any point to leave testing just for devs since im using (and my friend, and his friend and some user in africa, australia, us)...
[20:00] <djura-san> *on
[20:01] <djura-san> _Techie_, i tried it today and it looks like (and apps are like) in 9.10
[20:01] <djura-san> :)
[20:01] <_Techie_> that would probably be because most of the upgrades havent been made yet, its only been 1 month and 13 days since the release of karmic
[20:01] <djura-san> of course
[20:01] <djura-san> :)
[20:02] <djura-san> still in 10.04 i dont expect any radical change
[20:02] <djura-san> ;)
[20:02] <plain> _Techie_, its not working for me, logging into the livecd
[20:03] <djura-san> plain, is there autologin? it should be so just wait 10s
[20:03] <djura-san> try that way
[20:03] <plain> ok
[20:03] <_Techie_> or restart
[20:04] <_Techie_> as i know the ubunut livecd for karmic recreates the user at boot, not sure about xubuntu though
[20:04] <plain> i know this cd has a few errors while its booting
[20:04] <_Techie_> thats the main reason why i stuck with jaunty for my USB linux
[20:04] <plain> but when i check cd fordefects, it finds none
[20:05] <djura-san> plain, did you check the md5sum for donwloaded iso file of xubuntu?
[20:05] <djura-san> *downloaded
[20:05] <plain> no but i got it from a xubuntu mirror.
[20:05] <plain> but it installs on this laptop
[20:05] <plain> so the cd definitely works
[20:06] <djura-san> plain, that is not 100% certain unless you check md5sum
[20:06] <plain> but ive alreadty installed it onto another pc, the same disc
[20:07] <djura-san> that does not mean that the iso file is correct!
[20:07] <plain> :\
[20:07] <plain> it doesnt?
[20:07] <djura-san> nope.
[20:07] <djura-san> :(
[20:07] <plain> well what does it mean then?
[20:08] <_Techie_> if the md5 doesnt match then the disc is not a perfect copy
[20:08] <djura-san> i dont know
[20:08] <_Techie_> making it "defective"
[20:08] <_Techie_> however a defective product may still function, however it will most likely not function properly
[20:08] <plain> oh i see
[20:09] <djura-san> plain, did you tried to let 10s in login manager to try autologin?
[20:09] <plain> well, not yet
[20:09] <djura-san> okay
[20:09] <djura-san> :]
[20:09] <plain> booting from a cd takes long :o
[20:10] <djura-san> yes it does
[20:10] <Sahkolihaa> Well, CDs have very low transfer rates. :)
[20:11] <_Techie_> downloading and burning a new copy takes awhile, but if it gets the job done then its worth it
[20:11] <Sahkolihaa> I usually burn images to a DVD - speeds it up a bit.
[20:11] <plain> well i just built this new pc.
[20:11] <Sahkolihaa> RW, of course.
[20:11] <plain> from my old one, so it'd be unlikely for me to rebuild the old one again to burn a cd
[20:12] <Sahkolihaa> I actually had to format a drive earlier due to some glitch in unmounting an external drive. :(
[20:12] <Sahkolihaa> Thunar said the files I was copying over had copied, and it looked as if they had. So i went and unmounted the drive.
[20:12] <djura-san> Sahkolihaa, i didnt know that. i use dvd rw for my distros...
[20:12] <plain> bummer
[20:12] <Sahkolihaa> The 160 drive then starting to go nuts with read/write errors.
[20:12] <Sahkolihaa> Turned out it hadn't copied the files entirely.
[20:13] <Sahkolihaa> corrupted the file systems on it. Format fixed it, thankfully.
[20:13] <Sahkolihaa> system*
[20:13] <_Techie_> wow, that sucks
[20:13] <Sahkolihaa> Really have no clue what happened.
[20:13] <djura-san> yeah... big time
[20:13] <Sahkolihaa> Well, -how- it happened rather.
[20:14] <Sahkolihaa> I didn't lose any data - got an 80GB just for backups. :)
[20:14] <Sahkolihaa> Remember people - always keep a backup of your important files.
[20:14] <djura-san> Sahkolihaa, thinking forward :)
[20:24] <plain> lol
[20:24] <plain> it autologged in
[20:24] <plain> i feel superdumb now :D
[20:25] <djura-san> no need to
[20:25] <djura-san> :D
[20:29] <plain> im alot more familiar with slackware and debian
[20:29] <plain> even ubuntu-server
[20:29] <plain> you know, terminal distro
[20:29] <plain> *s
[20:30] <djura-san> yeah... X is somewhat pain in the bu*
[20:31] <plain> sometimes yeh, but i prefer xfce when using a window manager at al
[21:13] <Venim> plain: archplz
[21:13] <Venim> (ditch slackware)