| wgrant | Is there a nice bzr viz-ish tool around that will show me several branches in one revision tree? I've got a set of inter-related branches from a couple of months ago that I'd really like to see the relationships between. | 07:25 |
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| lifeless | bzr viz has some stuff to do that, and I think qlog can to | 07:25 |
| lifeless | failing that: bzr merge --force them all together, do a single commit, and then use bzr viz :P | 07:26 |
| wgrant | I considered that last option. | 07:26 |
| wgrant | i tried qlog, but it seems to have hung. | 07:26 |
| wgrant | But maybe it's just processing 70000 LP revs. | 07:26 |
| geartrooper | hello, is it possible to lock a folder in ubuntu for a bzr repo that friends can only see the folder? | 07:32 |
| cody-somerville | geartrooper, pardon? | 07:36 |
| geartrooper | ty for responding cody-somerville. Is it possible to use my machine for a repo and have friends use only the repo folder? | 07:36 |
| cody-somerville | geartrooper, for read only or read and write operations? | 07:37 |
| geartrooper | read and write | 07:37 |
| cody-somerville | Yes its possible but requires setup. | 07:38 |
| geartrooper | is there a tutorial for such cody-somerville | 07:38 |
| cody-somerville | geartrooper, Have you considered using launchpad.net to host the branches? | 07:39 |
| cody-somerville | geartrooper, https://launchpad.net/+tour/branch-hosting-tracking | 07:39 |
| geartrooper | I have | 07:40 |
| cody-somerville | If you could share with me why you didn't find it a suitable option it'll help me understand what your needs are. | 07:42 |
| geartrooper | well, I am using bzr for a secret gaming project. I would like to keep the assets hidden from potential players. | 07:42 |
| cody-somerville | Launchpad offers commercial subscriptions but I take it you've already evaluated and ruled that option out for whatever reasons? | 07:43 |
| geartrooper | that assumption would be correct | 07:44 |
| cody-somerville | An alternative to setting up a restricted file server on your personal machine is to use a distributed development model. | 07:45 |
| geartrooper | please elaborate | 07:46 |
| cody-somerville | Certainly. | 07:46 |
| cody-somerville | geartrooper, http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.0/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html | 07:47 |
| wgrant | lifeless: qlog eventually worked (but hung for a looooong time). thanks. | 07:48 |
| geartrooper | cody-somerville, does centralized run the risk of a changing ip address on desktop machines? | 07:49 |
| cody-somerville | geartrooper, depends on your internet connection. Most residential connections have a dynamic (ie. changing) ip address. | 07:50 |
| geartrooper | crud | 07:50 |
| lifeless | wgrant: file a bug | 07:50 |
| geartrooper | well, launchpad will work fine, we'll just have to be smart. cody-somerville thank you very much for your help and best wishes on the project | 07:51 |
| lifeless | geartrooper: you can by an lp subscription | 07:51 |
| lifeless | geartrooper: which will let you make your branches private and only accessible to folk you choose | 07:51 |
| geartrooper | noted | 07:51 |
| geartrooper | thankyou guys very much. | 07:52 |
| cyberix | What is "the gui" for bzr in Ubuntu? | 14:06 |
| === gutworth_ is now known as gutworth | ||
| bialix | hello | 16:45 |
| bialix | anybody here remember old baz? | 16:45 |
| jelmer_ | not really | 16:55 |
| === jelmer_ is now known as jelmer | ||
| bialix | evening jelmer | 16:55 |
| jelmer | hey bialix | 16:55 |
| jelmer | congrats on the new bzr-explorer | 16:56 |
| bialix | do you know maybe, mainline idea is specific for bzr or it comes from baz/arch? | 16:56 |
| jelmer | no idea, sorry | 16:56 |
| bialix | jelmer: thanks, but all congrat belongs to igc | 16:56 |
| * bialix writing blog article about 1 branch is 1 directory | 16:57 | |
| mjg | hello. is it possible to configure loggerhead to allow commits? | 17:15 |
| mjg | (ie not just be read only)? | 17:15 |
| jelmer | mjg: Not that I'm aware of | 17:16 |
| mjg | OK - so how to have a read/write repo accessed over http? | 17:16 |
| mjg | is it possible? | 17:18 |
| jelmer | Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is possible | 17:19 |
| jelmer | Unfortunately I don't have any experience with it myself | 17:19 |
| mjg | :) thanks | 17:20 |
| mjg | it's quite frustrating trying to get it set up | 17:21 |
| bialix | mjg: read about bzt+http | 17:26 |
| bialix | mjg: also there is webdav plugin | 17:26 |
| bialix | *bzr+http | 17:26 |
| mjg | gotcha | 17:26 |
| mjg | OK: I have run bzr serve --directory=/home/tapir/bzr/ on my repo server | 17:33 |
| mjg | on the client machine I can run bzr branch bzr://tapir:4155/myProject/trunk and get a working copy no problem | 17:34 |
| mjg | but if I try bzr branch bzr+http://tapir:4155/myProject/trunk I get errors | 17:34 |
| mjg | do I need to start the server differently to use the client like this? | 17:35 |
| NfNitLoop | I'm not sure what bzr+http:// means. bzr:// is for bzr serves, and http:// is for a bzr directory served via HTTP. | 17:36 |
| mjg | OK - I am still a bit confused, but if I try bzr branch http://tapir:4155/myProject/trunk I still get an error | 17:37 |
| mjg | which is: bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for http://tapir:4155/myProject/trunk/.bzr/branch-format: Bad status line received | 17:38 |
| NfNitLoop | well, bzr serve isn't http. | 17:38 |
| NfNitLoop | It's its own protocol. | 17:38 |
| mjg | OK - I see | 17:38 |
| mjg | slowly | 17:38 |
| NfNitLoop | so you wouldn't expect that to work. | 17:38 |
| mjg | I thought the "smart" of the "smart server" would allow that to work | 17:38 |
| NfNitLoop | No, the "smart" of the smart server is that it can do some of the work of picking which revisions to send you. | 17:39 |
| NfNitLoop | instead of your client having to poke around, say, and HTTP share and find them. | 17:39 |
| NfNitLoop | an* HTTP | 17:39 |
| NfNitLoop | and I'm sure there's other stuff too, I'm not one of the developers. | 17:39 |
| NfNitLoop | But generally with your own custom protocol, you can make things go faster than trying to do it over HTTP. :) | 17:40 |
| mjg | sure :) but I have a strict firewall to contend with | 17:40 |
| NfNitLoop | ah. Does that firewall allow you to ssh? | 17:40 |
| mjg | so I'd like to be able to checkout & commit over http | 17:40 |
| mjg | no | 17:40 |
| NfNitLoop | Hrmm. | 17:41 |
| mjg | it is port 80 only, so I'd like to run bzr over http and use apache as a reverse proxy | 17:41 |
| NfNitLoop | You can check-out via HTTP by just putting your project in a directory that's servable via your HTTP server. | 17:41 |
| mjg | yes, but then I can't check it back in | 17:41 |
| mjg | :( | 17:41 |
| NfNitLoop | correct. | 17:42 |
| NfNitLoop | you could check in locally, though, and then pull up to there via HTTP. | 17:42 |
| mjg | if I could ssh to the remote server, you mean? | 17:43 |
| NfNitLoop | Yeah. I imagine you have *some* way of connecting to it if you're getting files onto it in the first place. | 17:44 |
| mjg | if I go to another building and use the terminal, yes | 17:44 |
| NfNitLoop | maybe it's not the best place to store your branches, then. | 17:45 |
| mjg | perhaps not. I want to store my repo on my home computer then be able to checkout, work, and checkin again from a pc in my lab at work. But work has a horrid firewall which doesn't allow me to ssh into home. | 17:47 |
| mjg | so I thought I could run a read/write bzr server over http | 17:47 |
| mjg | but it doesn't seem possible, from what I am finding | 17:47 |
| NfNitLoop | You can only read bzr over HTTP at the moment. | 17:47 |
| mjg | oh, then I am going to have to remember to carry my usb-key with me all the time then | 17:48 |
| NfNitLoop | That works. | 17:48 |
| mjg | until I lose it :o) | 17:48 |
| NfNitLoop | put it on your keychain. :) | 17:49 |
| mjg | well I guess I could run the standard bzr serve on port 80 | 17:50 |
| mjg | but what about security? | 17:50 |
| mjg | the advantage of running over http is to put t behind an apache proxy that uses http-auth | 17:50 |
| NfNitLoop | at that point, why not run ssh on port 80? :) | 17:50 |
| NfNitLoop | http-auth isn't very secure, all your passwords go over plaintext. | 17:51 |
| mjg | yy | 17:51 |
| mjg | good points, all | 17:54 |
| mjg | I'll have to think this through. thanks for your help | 17:54 |
| jelmer | jam, lifeless: around? | 19:56 |
| thumper | morning | 20:05 |
| jelmer | hi thumper | 20:07 |
| thumper | jelmer: have the branch stalled for bzr-hg into LP? | 20:08 |
| jelmer | thumper: it's waiting for some changes to the database schema | 20:09 |
| jelmer | jam: ping | 20:33 |
| lifeless | jelmer: ? | 20:52 |
| lifeless | NfNitLoop: you can write over http, just use the wsgi service | 20:55 |
| lifeless | mjg: ^ | 20:55 |
| jelmer | lifeless: I'm playing with using indexes for the shamap in bzr-git | 20:55 |
| jelmer | lifeless: but I was having a hard time finding a helper class to do my directory management for me | 20:56 |
| jelmer | lifeless: just sent an email to the list about this | 20:56 |
| lifeless | the simplest example I know of is inbzr-search | 20:56 |
| lifeless | I haven't factored out a just-help-this class yet | 20:57 |
| lifeless | I want to write a flexible schema package built on these concepts | 20:59 |
| lifeless | I've even got a name :P but no substantial code | 20:59 |
| NfNitLoop | lifeless: Oh, huh. Sorry, thought I saw someone in here the other day saying that HTTP didn't support writes. | 21:05 |
| lifeless | plain http with no smart server or webdav doesn't | 21:06 |
| lifeless | http with webdav | 21:06 |
| lifeless | or bzr+http (which just needs the server configured) | 21:06 |
| lifeless | do | 21:06 |
| jelmer | lifeless: yeah, such a class would be neat - I don't feel like reimplementing this behaviour in bzr-git, bzr-svn *and* bzr-hg :-) | 21:06 |
| NfNitLoop | guess I've got some reading to do. :) | 21:07 |
| _habnabit | If I have a file and I'm trying to split it into multiple files, is there any way to keep the revision history in the new files? | 21:17 |
| jelmer | _habnabit, at the moment, no | 21:18 |
| _habnabit | Dang. | 21:18 |
| _habnabit | It sounds like it's a planned feature, though. | 21:19 |
| _habnabit | (And this is probably a subset of allowing versioned copying. Is there an open ticket for that?) | 21:19 |
| jelmer | _habnabit, there is a spec, not much more than that | 21:20 |
| _habnabit | Aha. | 21:20 |
| poolie | good morning | 22:55 |
| === poolie changed the topic of #bzr to: Bazaar version control | try https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr for more help | http://bazaar-vcs.org | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Patch pilot: ?? | ||
| jelmer | 'morning poolie | 22:57 |
| poolie | hi jelmer | 22:58 |
| poolie | how's soyuz going for you? | 22:58 |
| jelmer | poolie: fun :-) | 22:59 |
| jelmer | I've landed 7 branches so far, though almost all for trivial things | 22:59 |
| poolie | great | 22:59 |
| poolie | well, you need to get your feet wet | 23:00 |
| jelmer | poolie: Also, http://jelmer.vernstok.nl/blog/archives/244-My-first-week-as-a-Launchpad-developer-impressions.html | 23:01 |
| poolie | that's good that reviews and questions are quickly answered | 23:02 |
| poolie | and re karmic, as you probably know, it's a conscious tradeoff decision | 23:03 |
| jelmer | poolie: yeah, I realise that - it's still something I ran into though | 23:03 |
| poolie | iwbni it worked in more places but i think the external version dependencies are quite tight | 23:03 |
| poolie | still worth mentioning | 23:03 |
| poolie | we should add you to planet launchpad? | 23:04 |
| jelmer | that'd be great, I wasn't aware there was such a thing :-) | 23:04 |
| lifeless | jelmer: you could patch pilot too :P | 23:05 |
| poolie | ooh | 23:05 |
| poolie | i was just wondering who should do it next | 23:05 |
| poolie | also you are on our planet, but it's apprently not updating | 23:05 |
| jelmer | poolie: it was only posted a few minutes ago, I had forgotten to set it to Published in serendipity | 23:07 |
| jelmer | lifeless: yeah, I guess I should at some point... | 23:07 |
| lifeless | jelmer: why delay, pilot today | 23:14 |
| jelmer | lifeless: lack of spare time at the moment :-( | 23:19 |
| jelmer | lifeless: Wait, did I just see you quit IRC for a second? | 23:26 |
| lifeless | bouncing irssi because of freenodes retarded behaviour on channel joins before auth | 23:27 |
| fagan | Hey all I have a small problem with bzr in lucid anyone around to figure it out with me? | 23:35 |
| jelmer | hi Shane | 23:36 |
| jelmer | fagan: what is the problem? | 23:36 |
| fagan | jelmer: hang on ill get you a pastebin of the message | 23:36 |
| fagan | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/340831/ | 23:37 |
| fagan | I have my pub key set and imported to launchpad but I still get the error | 23:37 |
| Peng | fagan: Is that with Launchpad? | 23:37 |
| Peng | Ah. | 23:37 |
| fagan | yep | 23:37 |
| Peng | Well, apparently you don't. :P | 23:37 |
| Peng | Are you sure it's the right key? Did you paste it properly? | 23:37 |
| fagan | Yep | 23:37 |
| fagan | Synced the key | 23:37 |
| fagan | then copyed the fingerprint and confirmed it | 23:38 |
| Peng | The fingerprint? Not the id_rsa.pub file? | 23:38 |
| fagan | When you sync your key all you have to do is give the fingerprint | 23:39 |
| fagan | bzr didnt ask for my password though | 23:39 |
| fagan | Could that be the problem? | 23:40 |
| Peng | .... | 23:40 |
| Peng | "give the fingerprint" means "paste the contents of id_rsa.pub in the form"? | 23:40 |
| fagan | I did that | 23:41 |
| fagan | the key is definitly linked to my launchpad | 23:41 |
| Peng | LP would've probably given an error if you did it wrong anyway. | 23:41 |
| Peng | Sorry, my only other guess is that your SSH client is using the wrong key. | 23:41 |
| fagan | hmmmm | 23:41 |
| Peng | Or you're using the wrong username. | 23:42 |
| spiv | Try sftp -v your_launchpad_username@bazaar.launchpad.net | 23:42 |
| spiv | That will show you which key it is trying. (And if it works then that suggests that bzr isn't trying the right username) | 23:43 |
| spiv | Hmm. | 23:43 |
| poolie | hello spiv, peng | 23:43 |
| spiv | I wonder how hard it would be to include the username bzr tries in that error text... | 23:43 |
| Peng | Good $time_of_day, poolie. :) | 23:43 |
| fagan | Ah its using the wrong key | 23:44 |
| Peng | \o/ | 23:44 |
| poolie | spiv, that would be good, though... | 23:44 |
| fagan | Ill fix it thanks all | 23:44 |
| poolie | maybe sometimes we let the ssh client default? i don't know | 23:44 |
| spiv | Hmm, and we could probably add a -Dssh flag that would cause -v to be passed to openssh. | 23:44 |
| spiv | We sometimes do, but I think in the case of Launchpad after lp-login we pass it. | 23:44 |
| Peng | fagan: How did it wind up using the wrong key? | 23:45 |
| poolie | i think i've sometimes seen launchpad sftp default to 'mbp@sourcefrog.net' as the username | 23:45 |
| fagan | It said the number and I just matched it | 23:45 |
| poolie | i haven't dug into why | 23:45 |
| fagan | I just looked at the file and looked at launchpad and went I uploaded the wrong one | 23:46 |
| fagan | I feel nice and dumb after that | 23:48 |
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