[00:00] <giulia> how can i do that???
[00:01] <RiotingPacifist> giulia: i used gdebi-kde to install local pacakges, not sure how kpackagekit does it
[00:11] <weizhang> nichts zu sagen
[00:22] <r4v3nsw0rd> so, how do I reset a forgotten password?
[00:25] <barletta> Hello?
[00:26] <barletta> Antone know about running Kubuntu from a USB flash drive?
[00:26] <barletta> *Anyone
[00:27] <r00t_ninja> with persistance?
[00:27] <Brhad56> r4v3nsw0rd: get your password reset?
[00:28] <r4v3nsw0rd> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kubuntu+usb&l=1
[00:28] <r4v3nsw0rd> and no
[00:28] <Brhad56> If you just boot to console mode, you'll be auto logged into root and can reset from there.
[00:29] <r4v3nsw0rd> sorry, I meant for the irc
[00:30] <bazhang> barletta, sure, using unetbootin , or this
[00:30] <bazhang> !usb | barletta
[00:30] <bazhang> barletta, live persistent if you wish to save changes made
[00:31] <Brhad56> r4v3nsw0rd: no clue. an ircop would probably be most helpful
[00:31] <r4v3nsw0rd> what's an ircop?
[00:31] <bazhang> r4v3nsw0rd, go to #freenode and request ; also using the lmgtfy links are not helpful here
[00:31] <r4v3nsw0rd> ok
[00:32] <Brhad56> irc operator
[00:32] <Brhad56> privledged user
[00:32] <bazhang> r4v3nsw0rd, /join #freenode  and say I would like a password reset email please
[00:33] <r4v3nsw0rd> thanks
[01:20] <wrst> hey guys kubuntu (kde) noob and looking for something to search for files, GNOME has a search option in the file manage anything similar in kde?
[01:20] <maco> strigi
[01:20] <maco> i think
[01:20] <wrst> thanks maco is that installed by default?
[01:20] <maco> i dont know
[01:21] <wrst> i've tried using the search in dolphin and it never finds anything :)
[01:23] <echotone> Has anybody had this problem? You go to install ubuntu and it wont work. You try the alternate cd and it will install but when you boot up it shows the ubuntu logo and then sits black forever. and ever. and ever.???
[01:23] <echotone> I have been stuck for a week now with no fix
[01:23] <maco> sounds like broken graphics drivers to me
[01:23] <echotone> i can install win7, winxp and osx86
[01:23] <echotone> they all run great
[01:23] <ath_> echotone, do you by anychance have an ati graphics card?
[01:23] <echotone> but i hate them
[01:23] <echotone> nvidia 9500gt
[01:23] <ath_> ah
[01:24] <ath_> boot in to safe mode and have a look at your xorg.conf
[01:24] <echotone> i am running puppy linux right now.
[01:24] <echotone> i never get an option to boot into safe mode
[01:24] <ath_> then mount your ubuntu partition
[01:24] <ath_> have a look at your xorg.
[01:25] <echotone> i dont have one. i can make one then come back...
[01:25] <ath_> eh? if you're on puppy linux, on the same machine i assume, right?
[01:25] <echotone> yeah.
[01:25] <echotone> but i reformatted a little while ago
[01:25] <ath_> you don't need to go anywhere, mount the ubuntu partition..
[01:25] <ath_> oh if you dont have ubuntu on it then nm.
[01:25] <echotone> i dont have an ubuntu partiton. i formatted my drive.
[01:26] <echotone> i am going to make one thn come back
[01:26] <ath_> alright
[01:26] <echotone> should i use 9.10 or 8.04?
[02:01] <r4v3nsw0rd> how do I leave a channel?
[02:06] <prefrontal> my karmic KDE just took a dive. i upgraded to the latest KDE SC and that didn't help, upgraded my video drivers to nvidia 190 and 195, nuked ~/.kde, nothing has helped. after login the screen goes black for 1 second and then goes back to login.
[02:06] <prefrontal> here is my /var/log/kdm.log: (EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard [config/dbus] couldn't register object path
[02:08] <prefrontal> strangely, my mounts are also acting up. i get many 'none' entries in the first column, and I have to start nfs manually using: mount -t nfs -a     (output) http://pastebin.ca/raw/1712774
[02:12] <r00t_ninja> prefrontal: do you have freetype installed?
[02:13] <DaskreecH> hi emma
[02:13] <emma> Hello there
[02:13] <DaskreecH> How are you?
[02:14] <prefrontal> r00t_ninja, of course, it just stopped working. that is a red herring.
[02:15] <r00t_ninja> tried running nvidia-xconfig?
[02:18] <prefrontal> what makes you think it has to do with my xorg.conf
[02:18] <prefrontal> there are no errors in my xorg log file
[02:19] <r00t_ninja> well it wont exactly hurt to configure your xorg.conf for use with your nvidia card
[02:22] <kindofabuzz> Dolphin crashes on me everytime i try to browse a samba share.
[02:22] <DaskreecH> Get a trace from it
[02:23] <kindofabuzz> and that means?
[02:24] <r00t_ninja> could you try launching dolphin from a terminal and see if there is any usefull output
[02:25] <kindofabuzz> doint that now
[02:26] <kindofabuzz> just hitting Network i get errors in terminal. a lot of Unsupported operations
[02:26] <kindofabuzz> error in thread
[02:28] <DaskreecH> kindofabuzz: close it and run dolphin | tee ~/dolphin.samba.log
[02:30] <kindofabuzz> DaskreecH: ok, nothing in log
[02:32] <kindofabuzz> Kcrash: Application 'dolphin' crashing... sock_file=/home/blah/.kde/socket-kubuntu/kdeinit4__0
[02:32] <DaskreecH> a socket error
[02:33] <kindofabuzz> anything i can do? i am using 4.3.4 if that matter. i don't know if it did this on 4.3.2 or whatever the default is
[02:34] <kindofabuzz> it was a pain just to get sharing to be an option, no it doesn't work :(
[02:34] <kindofabuzz> *now
[02:37] <DaskreecH> kindofabuzz: how many shares have you tried it with?
[02:38] <kindofabuzz> DaskreecH: one
[02:39] <kindofabuzz> actually i don't even need samba, no windows machines on network. i just want to share a simple music dir on my laptop with my desktop
[02:41] <DaskreecH> sshfs ?
[02:41] <DaskreecH> samba is never the solution for UNIX <-> UNIX sharing
[02:42] <kindofabuzz> yeah lemme get rid of this samba crap. i don't even remember what i installed
[02:44] <kindofabuzz> DaskreecH: so sshfs would be the best bet?
[02:47] <DaskreecH> kindofabuzz: If you want it persistent and in your FHS
[02:48] <DaskreecH> Otherwise a fish:// link works for KDE apps
[02:49] <Bookman> hmm, maybe I should reboot into kubuntu tonight.  give it another shot.
[02:49] <kindofabuzz> DaskreecH: let me ask this. I've used NFS before and when one computer was down Nautilus would lock up trying to read the NFS on the down computer. Will that be a problem with sshfs and with dolphin or was that just a Nautilus problem?
[02:50] <DaskreecH> That's an NFS locking problem there are a few ways around it but sshfs should be easier
[02:50] <DaskreecH> NFS is much more of a known quantity though
[02:50] <kindofabuzz> ok thanks
[02:51] <DaskreecH> YOu can do some fun stuff like have a local mount and a remote NFS mounted over that. If the NFS mount fails the local mount rises and becomes visible
[02:51] <kindofabuzz> hmm k
[02:51] <DaskreecH> BUt Samba is the wrong solution
[02:52] <prefrontal> i found this in my xorg (WW) Warning, couldn't open module freetype (EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)
[02:54] <DaskreecH> check if you have freetype installed
[02:56] <prefrontal> yeah, i have  libfreetype6-dev and libfreetype6
[03:14] <Squideshi> Can Gnome and KDE be installed at the same time?
[03:14] <chibi-wing> yes
[03:15] <Squideshi> How do you switch between them?
[03:15] <chibi-wing> from the greeter
[03:15] <chibi-wing> to to options session
[03:15] <chibi-wing> and set the session you want to start
[03:16] <Squideshi> The greeter can be either gdm or kde?
[03:18] <mcgyver> hi
[03:19] <prefrontal> what is wrong with my filesystem? all my mounts say none next to them, and i have to be sudo to touch anything in /tmp
[03:19] <prefrontal> output of mount: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1712774
[03:21] <chibi-wing> Squideshi: yea both can load kde and gnome sessions
[03:22] <DaskreecH> Squideshi: Yes. The only caveat that I know of is that GDM allows Gnome control of the computer and KDE allows KDE control of the computer other than that they are the same
[03:22] <chibi-wing> prefrontal: that how it should be
[03:23] <maco> you can pick which session you log into anyway
[03:23] <prefrontal> you certainly shouldn't need to be root to touch tmp
[03:23] <chibi-wing> well that yea
[03:23] <chibi-wing> but the none part is good
[03:23] <DaskreecH> prefrontal: ls -l /
[03:23] <chibi-wing> check the permissions of tmp
[03:23] <chibi-wing> prefrontal: shold be rwx for all
[03:24] <DaskreecH> should t actually
[03:24] <prefrontal> ok i did this now it works sudo chmod -R a+rwx /tmp
[03:25] <DaskreecH> prefrontal: wrong
[03:25] <DaskreecH> drwxrwxrwt  15 root root  4096 2009-12-12 21:16 tmp
[03:25] <DaskreecH> that's the correct permission of /tmp
[03:26] <prefrontal> my command achieves that
[03:28] <chibi-wing> prefrontal: i when i said all i meant user, group and others for /tmp
[03:28] <chibi-wing> not recursively
[03:28] <chibi-wing> reboot to clear out /tmp
[03:29] <prefrontal> i cleared out tmp before i ran the command
[03:29] <chibi-wing> ok lol
[03:29] <chibi-wing> then your fine
[03:30] <prefrontal> no my kde still doesn't work
[03:30] <prefrontal> more likely cause is the x server
[03:30] <chibi-wing> patebin your xorg log
[03:30] <prefrontal> (EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0
[03:31] <chibi-wing> thats not a prob
[03:31] <prefrontal> it's an error
[03:31] <chibi-wing> not a fatal one
[03:31] <prefrontal> and the error that causes kdm to crash
[03:31] <prefrontal> it shows up at the end of kdm.log
[03:31] <chibi-wing> nah its something else
[03:31] <prefrontal> what
[03:31] <chibi-wing> show me the whole log
[03:32] <prefrontal> http://pastebin.ca/raw/1712826
[03:34] <chibi-wing> looks like x start up fime
[03:35] <prefrontal> then it could be kdm
[03:35] <chibi-wing> does kdm start up?
[03:35] <chibi-wing> and how the log on screen?
[03:35] <prefrontal> it gets to the login screen. when i log in it turns black for a sec then goes back to login screen. kdm.log: http://pastebin.ca/1712829
[03:37] <chibi-wing> delete your kde directory
[03:37] <chibi-wing> for that user
[03:37] <chibi-wing> and restart dbus
[03:40] <chibi-wing> brb
[03:45] <DaskreecH> prefrontal: Don't delete your kde directory
[03:45] <prefrontal> it recreates it automatically..
[03:45] <DaskreecH> chibi-wing: yur KDE directory contains a lot of important data for example Mail from Kmail. Ask people to rename it in the future
[03:45] <prefrontal> i eventually tried that as a debugging step. i think that eventually it's a sane debugging step.
[03:46] <DaskreecH> prefrontal: You have a lot of personal data in ~/.kde somewhich possibly you cannot recreate based on the circumstances
[03:46] <prefrontal> nah i don't put personal data in there
[03:47] <chibi-wing> DaskreecH: thanks for the heads up
[03:48] <DaskreecH> prefrontal: You don't use Kopete or Kmail or kwallet etc ?
[03:49] <prefrontal> no
[03:50] <prefrontal> i use firefox, emacs -nw, and our software
[03:50] <prefrontal> which is built on Qt 4.5
[03:50] <prefrontal> anyway how do i get kde working
[03:50] <chibi-wing> prefrontal: its still not working?
[03:50] <prefrontal> nope
[03:50] <prefrontal> i didn't change anything..
[03:51] <prefrontal> i don't see anything wrong, except the freetype guy
[03:52] <chibi-wing> restart dbus
[03:52] <chibi-wing> and if that doesn't work
[03:52] <chibi-wing> its probably a bad config file in kde
[03:52] <chibi-wing> so rename .kde
[03:52] <chibi-wing> and restart
[04:08] <echotone> I am in puppy linux right now and i cant install ubuntu to my computer. it sits at a blank screen for ever after installing using the alternate cd. any thoughts?n
[04:10] <DaskreecH> echotone: where on the install?
[04:10] <DaskreecH> Is the computer plugged in to the internet?
[04:11] <echotone> when i install ubuntu with the alternate cd, it shows the white ubuntu logo and then flashes a couple of white lines on the screen. It freezes right before (what should/would be) the login screen.
[04:11] <echotone> yeah.
[04:12] <echotone> the system is intstalled but i cant boot it.
[04:12] <echotone> i have my hdd mounted in puppy linux right now. i was told to look for my xconf file or something.
[04:13] <chelos> hi. I don sucess use the microphone in flash 10 kubuntu 9.10
[04:13] <chelos> don
[04:13] <chelos> don´t
[04:13] <chelos> don't
[04:14] <chelos> I listen but i dont use the microphone
[04:15] <DaskreecH> echotone: ah it's installed you should be ok then :)
[04:16] <echotone> its installed but like i said, it doesnt boot into it. it freezes on a black screen indeffinitely.
[04:17] <echotone> i am trying to fix that problem because right now, the system is unusable
[04:17] <DaskreecH> echotone: It's usable you just need to learn how. You can jump to a tty ?
[04:19] <echotone> i dont think it is usable. i cant do anything. i cant even login. the system freezes at a black screen. i dont even get a chance to login. have you seen anything like that before?
[04:45] <ubuntu> hello, my kernel upgrade failed do to full HD (now fixed) and now I can't boot the system. I am here with the live cd. How do I reinstall the kernel from here?
[04:46] <ubuntu> even a link on this would be good. No luck googling so far.
[04:48] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: You cannot boot into an oldkernel?
[04:49] <ubuntu> no
[04:49] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: Why not?
[04:50] <[SilverFox]> Guys I'm going back to windows if I can't find help problem is my ati drivers work okay I can get like 130 fps in a good 2d mmorpg at 1920x1200 play hd videos and such... But the whole interface system moving windows and such is choppy and tearing and the works.
[04:50] <[SilverFox]> Anyone know anything comes to mind with this?
[04:50] <[SilverFox]> I have a ati 4890
[04:50] <ubuntu> I don't know. I could not even boot into my other partition and get it to work. IT was 8.04 and my new system is 9.10. I have now reinstalled grub so it boots part way but then says I don't have the kernel moduals. I think I might have removed something improtant making space.
[04:51] <platnicat> ?
[04:52] <ubuntu> DaskreecH: I think, If I can figure out how. I can just apt-get a new kernel to the HD and be fine.
[04:52] <DaskreecH> [SilverFox]: YOU may want to play with rendering modes
[04:52] <DaskreecH> [SilverFox]: For ATI there is no better IRC resource than #phoronix
[04:52] <[SilverFox]> May I ask where I can find them?
[04:52] <[SilverFox]> the rendering modes
[04:52] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: Sounds about right
[04:53] <DaskreecH> [SilverFox]: Probably xorg.conf but I don't know enough to speak with confidence
[04:53] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: can you mount the drive?
[04:53] <DaskreecH> platnicat: !
[04:53] <ubuntu> yes
[04:53] <platnicat> hi
[04:54] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: Ok mount the / partition to some directory and chroot it
[04:54] <DaskreecH> platnicat: Hi
[04:56] <DaskreecH> !chroot
[04:56] <DaskreecH> Sweet :)
[04:56] <platnicat> That was fast.
[04:57] <ubuntu> DaskreecH: I have a boot and a / partition. I am not sure how do make it all work. To make matters harder, the boot is an old root. :-(
[04:58] <ubuntu> I am not to strong with mounting and chrooting.
[04:58] <DaskreecH> platnicat: What is?
[04:58] <ubuntu> dolphine mounts them in media just fine though
[04:59] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: Lets unravel where everything is broken then. What in the boot partition ?
[04:59] <platnicat> ubottu's response
[05:00] <platnicat> Okay, cool. ubottu's a bot!
[05:00] <DaskreecH> Yes she is
[05:00] <DaskreecH> !Hi | platnicat
[05:01] <platnicat> Okay, ubottu, test!
[05:01] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: Does it have any remnants of being a root partition?
[05:01] <ubuntu> grup thinks that it is newKDERoot. Is that the answer you want?
[05:01] <ubuntu> yes
[05:01] <ubuntu> 2 of them do.
[05:01] <DaskreecH> platnicat: try /msg ubottu commands
[05:01] <platnicat> It worked before...
[05:01] <[SilverFox]> yeah no one is talking in #phoronix so back to windows I guess :(
[05:02] <DaskreecH> [SilverFox]: Probably late you can try again in the morning
[05:02] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: 2 of what?
[05:02] <platnicat> I have an ubottu tab open in XChat. Test makes her say "yes, I'm alive."
[05:02] <ubuntu> there are 2 partitions with boot info.
[05:03] <ubuntu> the one with the new stuff is called NewKDERoot
[05:03] <DaskreecH> ok well speak to her in the tab and you can learn more
[05:03] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: is it a root or a boot ?
[05:03] <ubuntu> they are both both.
[05:03] <ubuntu> I know that is a mess.
[05:05] <ubuntu> What I want is for NewKDERoot to be the boot and the other to be root with home.
[05:06] <ubuntu> That is how the partiton was saved at this point but it has the other files too.
[05:07] <ubuntu> DaskreecH: so should I chroot the boot or othe /+
[05:07] <ubuntu> ?
[05:08] <ubuntu> the boot or the / ? (I mean)
[05:09] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: Mount the boot to /boot on the /media/NewKDERoot
[05:12] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: Did that make sense to you?
[05:14] <DaskreecH> ubuntu: I'm a little sleepy so if I'm not being clear tell me
[05:17] <crashdata> hi
[05:17] <crashdata> i'm having trouble wiht my amarok...no sound is coming from it
[05:18] <DaskreecH> crashdata: what are you trying to play?
[05:18] <crashdata> i did the playb configuration already
[05:18] <crashdata> music
[05:18] <crashdata> .mp3
[05:18] <dtchen> can you not hear any audio at all, or is it just mp3?
[05:18] <DaskreecH> try install libxine1-ffmpeg
[05:19] <crashdata> DaskreecH: i have it already,
[05:19] <crashdata> libxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.
[05:19] <Kage_Jittai> qustion, is there a command in dpkg to check and make sure all files are setup correctly?
[05:19] <Kage_Jittai> I deleted a file by accident, no idea what package it belongs to, and now some programs won't run correctly
[05:19] <arghh2d2> crashdata: try pluggin in your speakers
[05:19] <DaskreecH> Kage_Jittai: try apt-file
[05:20] <Guest61211> hello guy and lady i got a problem when i install kubuntu 9.10 i got a square in my destop but i only whan icone not a scare with my icon in it how i can do ?
[05:20] <crashdata> arghh2d2: its plug in....i can hear sounds with my vlc player
[05:20] <crashdata> just fine
[05:20] <crashdata> just amarok
[05:20] <DaskreecH> crashdata: see if something like kaffeine or dragonplayer can play the file
[05:20] <arghh2d2> crashdata: unmute amarok
[05:20] <arghh2d2> turn up amaroks volume
[05:20] <arghh2d2> rock out
[05:21] <DaskreecH> Guest61211: Can you ask the question again?
[05:21] <arghh2d2> juke box hero...rock it
[05:21] <Lazydragoon> yes i can
[05:21] <Kage_Jittai> DaskreecH: I don't remember the file I deleted :(
[05:21] <crashdata> arghh2d2: man i'm not dumb fuk..its on.
[05:22] <DaskreecH> Kage_Jittai: how did you delete it?
[05:22] <DaskreecH> !ohmy | crashdata
[05:22] <arghh2d2> crashdata: you need stars in your eyes
[05:22] <Kage_Jittai> DaskreecH: Well... I ran  find / -name '*fgl*' -delete
[05:22] <Lazydragoon> on my destop i got a square with all my icon in it i want like windows to get my icon direcly in anywhere in my destop not only in a lil square how i can do ?
[05:22] <crashdata> arghh2d2: what are u talking about dude.
[05:23] <arghh2d2> crashdata: you just need one guitar
[05:23] <bazhang> !ot | arghh2d2
[05:23] <arghh2d2> !jukeboxher | bazhang
[05:23] <crashdata> arghh2d2: dude, please if u have no idea how to fix it dont say anything
[05:23] <bazhang> arghh2d2, please desist.
[05:24] <DaskreecH> Kage_Jittai: Closed the terminal ?
[05:24] <Kage_Jittai> DaskreecH: yes
[05:24] <Lazydragoon> nvm i find how myself
[05:24] <Lazydragoon> how i can go like ctl alt delete windows in linux ?
[05:24] <DaskreecH> Kage_Jittai: Argh might need to do a full system inquiry then
[05:24] <arghh2d2> JUKE - BOX - HERO!!!
[05:25] <DaskreecH> Lazydragoon: You want icons on all of your desktop ?
[05:25] <DaskreecH> crashdata: Right so dragonplayer plays the file you said?
[05:26] <Kage_Jittai> DaskreecH: I did: cd /var/cache/apt/archives && find . -name '*.deb' -exec sudo dpkg -i {} \;
[05:26] <Lazydragoon> sorry i got d/c someone can help me plz
[05:26] <DaskreecH> Lazydragoon: You want icons on all of your desktop ?
[05:26] <Kage_Jittai> DaskreecH: but it didn't help :(
[05:26] <DaskreecH> Kage_Jittai: You would need a --reinstall
[05:26] <Lazydragoon> DaskreecH:  i got my answer but i have another question on how do ctl alt and delete in linux
[05:27] <DaskreecH> What are you trying to get with Alt+ctrl+Delete ?
[05:27] <Lazydragoon> well like task menager
[05:27] <Lazydragoon> manager well something like that
[05:27] <Kage_Jittai> DaskreecH: dpkg doesn't know --reinstall
[05:27] <DaskreecH> Lazydragoon: Ctrl+Esc
[05:28] <Lazydragoon> ok thanks
[05:30] <DaskreecH> Kage_Jittai: man debsums
[05:30] <Lazydragoon> i got kftpgrabber but i can't see the size of the file in my ftp why ?
[05:34] <Kage_Jittai> DaskreecH: i FOUND THE FAILURE!
[05:34] <orion> I just downloaded opera and there is an install.sh file etc, how do I install it?
[05:34] <jacquesdupontd_> hey
[05:34] <DaskreecH> Lazydragoon: Dolphin does ftp
[05:34] <DaskreecH> Kage_Jittai: WHoot
[05:34] <jacquesdupontd_> i don't know how to extract .xtm in kubuntu
[05:35] <jacquesdupontd_> i don't find any software able t do it
[05:35] <Orion37> I mean if I just installed all the files for an app how do I install it?
[05:35] <DaskreecH> Orion37: run it as a shell script in a terminal
[05:35] <Orion37> downloaded even
[05:35] <Lazydragoon> DaskreecH: what ? sorry i not anderstand dolphin is a ftp client ?
[05:35] <Orion37> daskreech: what is the command for that
[05:35] <DaskreecH> Lazydragoon: It can be.
[05:35] <yoesmi82> hi all
[05:35] <DaskreecH> Orion37: sh install.sh
[05:35] <Orion37> k, I forgot
[05:36] <Lazydragoon> DaskreecH:  ok but do he have ssl explicite in it ?
[05:36] <DaskreecH> Lazydragoon: Ah I"m not sure I should check
[05:36] <Lazydragoon> DaskreecH:  ok thanks because with kft i c'ant even get it to download
[05:37] <crashdata> DaskreecH: VLC player plays it
[05:37] <yoesmi82> orion37: u can get opera from synaptic.that easier than manual
[05:38] <DaskreecH> crashdata: Right that's not surprising
[05:38] <Orion37> kpackagekit doesn't have it
[05:38] <DaskreecH> VLC plays anything you throw at it
[05:38] <DaskreecH> !info opera
[05:38] <Orion37> daskreech, if it says write access denied do I type sudo sh install.sh?
[05:38] <DaskreecH> !find opera
[05:38] <DaskreecH> Orion37: yes
[05:38] <Orion37> k
[05:38] <bazhang> !opera
[05:39] <jacquesdupontd_> please
[05:39] <jacquesdupontd_> i'm gonna go crazy
[05:39] <jacquesdupontd_> i can't find any soft to extract my .xtm
[05:39] <crashdata> DaskreecH: k so the file reside on an ntfs partition. its on a fake raid 0.... and i used kwallet....does this make any difference?
[05:39] <r4v3nsw0rd> I'm trying to make a backup of a game, but the disks are copy protected, is there a way linux can make a backup of copy protected disks?
[05:39] <jacquesdupontd_> xtremsplit for linux doesn't work
[05:39] <yoesmi82> check your source
[05:40] <crashdata> DaskreecH: what i mean about using kwallet is that it asked me if i wanted to use it to store some secure data...and i opted to yes....
[05:40] <DaskreecH> Lazydragoon: Seems that it does Open dolphin then press Ctrl+L and typine sftp://your.ftpserver.com
[05:40] <DaskreecH> jacquesdupontd_: What is a xtm ?
[05:41] <DaskreecH> crashdata: that's for Last fm can you right click the file and open with dragonplayer ?
[05:41] <jacquesdupontd_> it's files that we cut or paste with xtremsplit on windows
[05:41] <Lazydragoon> DaskreecH:  dolphin is not the file viewer im lost
[05:41] <crashdata> let me download dragon player
[05:41] <Orion37> daskreech: I installed it but it doesn't show up in k menu/internet etc
[05:41] <DaskreecH> crashdata: should come with the install I think
[05:42] <crashdata> it didnt on mine
[05:42] <DaskreecH> Orion37: Thats ok run opera
[05:42] <DaskreecH> crashdata: Ah ok
[05:42] <Orion37> just type opera?
[05:42] <yoesmi82> if u want get opera,add to ur source http://deb.opera.com/opera/
[05:42] <crashdata> DaskreecH: i dont see it on apt-get..what is hte exact file?
[05:42] <crashdata> DaskreecH: nvm
[05:43] <DaskreecH> jacquesdupontd_: seems to have a Linux install on their site you can install that
[05:43] <crashdata> DaskreecH: it plays it
[05:43] <DaskreecH> dragonplayer
[05:43] <crashdata> DaskreecH: for some reason it was installed but not showing up
[05:43] <DaskreecH> crashdata: hmmm that's interesting.
[05:43] <DaskreecH> Can youclose amarok and reopen it and see if it plays the file?
[05:44] <jacquesdupontd_> DaskreecH, okease read me before trying to help me thx
[05:44] <yoesmi82> btw,anyone know how to change amarok theme?
[05:45] <DaskreecH> jacquesdupontd_: What do you mean it doens't work?
[05:45] <Orion37> http://deb.opera.com/opera/ does not work as a source even if I add deb and karmic main
[05:47] <jacquesdupontd_> it doesnt work check yourself, it xtremsplit file you do sh xtremsplit and it doesnt work thats all dont take me for noob please i've lost enought time
[05:47] <r4v3nsw0rd> or is this not the right place to ask that question? (copy copy protected disk)
[05:47] <jacquesdupontd_> DaskreecH, i've been searching for half an hour
[05:48] <yoesmi82> orion37: add to ur source http://deb.opera.com/opera-beta/ i hopr it work
[05:48] <Guest7910> hmph, opera won't run either
[05:48] <DaskreecH> r4v3nsw0rd: likely not the right place but you can try dd
[05:48] <r4v3nsw0rd> DaskreecH: I've tried dd, do you know where might be the right place? or a righter place? lol
[05:49] <jacquesdupontd_> DaskreecH, if you prefer instead of testing yourself : Xtremsplit: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[05:49] <jacquesdupontd_>  and think i'm enought stupid not to have check google gone to xtremsplit site and tried to use the file
[05:49] <DaskreecH> ##linux
[05:49] <r4v3nsw0rd> DaskreecH: Thanks
[05:49] <jacquesdupontd_> cat shoud be pasting files no ?
[05:49] <DaskreecH> jacquesdupontd_: yes under the assumption that's how xtremesplit works
[05:51] <DaskreecH> hi asobi
[05:52] <Guest7910> do you guys know if 64bit kubuntu might be buggier?
[05:53] <jacquesdupontd_> i'm gonna go crazy for that so simple thing
[05:53] <macken> Hello everyone> is there a cammand  to use in terminal that will  diagnois the ethernet. My onboard ethernet quit working , am  now on a ethernet card.
[05:53] <Guest7910> cause I've had a lot of problems with it
[05:53] <DaskreecH> Guest7910: Not anymore so than 32 bit. That's not how it works most of the time
[05:53] <DaskreecH> jacquesdupontd_: perhaps use a better tool next time
[05:54] <Orion34> is 9.04 a lot better than 9.10?
[05:54] <yoesmi82> macken: sudo pppoeconf
[05:54] <Orion34> I have had a lot of problems with kubuntu 9.10
[05:54] <DaskreecH> Orion34: That's supposedly the idea
[05:54] <DaskreecH> but ubuntu has regressions quite often
[05:54] <jacquesdupontd_> DaskreecH, i may have won, wait a sec, maybe because of a stupid stupid stupid newbie geek file name
[05:55] <Orion34> k well I don't know what version is was but I tried ubuntu like a year ago and that version was pretty stable
[05:55] <Orion34> 9.04 right?
[05:55] <macken> yoesmi82> will give that a try. thanks
[05:55] <DaskreecH> you have a { in your file name ?
[05:55] <jacquesdupontd_> and no
[05:56] <yoesmi82> macken: your welcome :-)
[05:56] <Orion34> daskreech, is chakra more stable?
[05:56] <DaskreecH> Orion34: If a version works for you then by all means stick with it
[05:56] <DaskreecH> chakra is a rolling release so take that as you will
[05:56] <Orion34> well, I don't know a good version of distribution with kde
[05:57] <DaskreecH> arch with Chakra is a popular one
[05:58] <Orion34> k maybe I should try moon os
[05:58] <Orion34> ty
[05:58] <Orion34> ubuntu is more stable than kubuntu right?
[05:59] <Orion34> perhaps the new versions of kde just aren't quite ready for release
[05:59] <yoesmi82> orion: mybe that's because environment,nothing else.lol
[06:00] <Orion34> yoes, environment?
[06:00] <Orion34> you mean its just pretty?
[06:00] <yoesmi82> yeah,between kde and gnome.that's why
[06:01] <Orion34> well in kubuntu kde is causing bugs, widget problems, crashes here and there, etc
[06:01] <Orion34> even with 4.3.4
[06:02] <yoesmi82> if u change your desktop to gnome, well your machine will get a new name...ubuntu..lol
[06:02] <DaskreecH> Orion34: Some (a lot) is packaging errors
[06:02] <Orion34> on their part?
[06:03] <Orion34> or cause my kubuntu has internet problems on my end
[06:03] <macken> Orion34> are you working off a clean install
[06:03] <DaskreecH> Orion34: There was a recent document on Kubuntu.org called the Timelord which outlines some of the problems that Kubuntu faces and how they plan to address them
[06:03] <Orion34> yes
[06:04] <yoesmi82> nothing change...ubuntu n kubuntu are the with different environment
[06:04] <Orion34> I'm working off a clean install, my last clean install bugged out, and this one has problems too
[06:04] <DaskreecH> In some cases they will be dropping the Ubuntu infrastructure to work in a more clean manner
[06:04] <Lazydragoon> how i can install pilote audio in kubuntu ?
[06:04] <DaskreecH> Lazydragoon: Pilot audio ?
[06:04] <Orion34> I'm thinking of getting ubuntu moon os which is a beautiful looking version of ubuntu 9.04..none of that orange and brown crap
[06:05] <macken> I have had  no problems so far but had to do a clean install. the upgrade was not useable.
[06:05] <Lazydragoon> DaskreecH: yeah when i go in wine or eatch time i get a notification i get a anoying sound before the sound get work
[06:05]  * DaskreecH has been upgrading for years. Nothing major here
[06:05] <Lazydragoon> its really get me anoying and in wine said no audio driver found
[06:06] <yoesmi82> laazydragoon; u used audio driver from windows?
[06:06] <Lazydragoon> yoesmi82:  umm i just get a new install from kubuntu so no
[06:07] <asobi> anyone uses xnp?
[06:07] <yoesmi82> laazydragoon; and ur kubuntu didn't found your audio hdware?
[06:08] <Orion34> lazydragoon, are you saying you aren't getting normal sound?
[06:08] <Orion34> I mean are you getting sounds at all?
[06:08] <Lazydragoon> yoesmi82:  i have sound but eatch time i get a new sound something goes wrong before the good sound work
[06:08] <Orion34> your card is called pilot audio card?
[06:09] <DaskreecH> asobi: What is it?
[06:09] <Lazydragoon> lol i not know i not look for anything
[06:09] <asobi> http://project-lsp.sourceforge.net/
[06:09] <yoesmi82> lazydragoon: u must update your kubuntu to get more audio library
[06:10] <Lazydragoon> ok i have update all but nothing work more any good
[06:10] <asobi> it won't create the conf
[06:10] <DaskreecH> What is the error that it throws
[06:10] <Orion34> lazydragoon, when you say pilot dont you mean realtek?
[06:11] <asobi>  XNP: Could not read/create the XNP configuration file (~/.xchat2/xnp.conf). Please check disk space and file permissions.
[06:11] <asobi>  XNP: Without the XNP configuration file, the /XNP command cannot work.
[06:11] <DaskreecH> asobi: can you write to ~/.xchat2 ?
[06:11] <Lazydragoon> yeah
[06:12] <asobi> i think so
[06:12] <asobi> drwx
[06:13] <DaskreecH> asobi: touch ~/.xchat2/xnp.conf
[06:13] <asobi> touch?
[06:13] <DaskreecH> There is a command called touch
[06:13] <asobi> unknow command
[06:14] <asobi> irc command or konsole?
[06:15] <DaskreecH> konsole
[06:15] <asobi> what does it do
[06:16] <jacquesdupontd_> DaskreecH, i managed to do it, thx wine
[06:16] <DaskreecH> It updates a file to current time and date
[06:16] <DaskreecH> jacquesdupontd_: Hooray :)
[06:17] <asobi> but xnp.conf doesn't exist
[06:17] <DaskreecH> asobi: touch will create it if it doesn't
[06:17] <jacquesdupontd_> DaskreecH, i was used to do it under dapper with the linux version, i can't get how people are still stupid to use that to cut or to use that at all and name the file like that "--[Hell]--blablablabla" was thinking about an option all the time
[06:17] <asobi> k
[06:18] <asobi> still same errot
[06:18] <asobi> error
[06:19] <jacquesdupontd_> not funny
[06:20] <jacquesdupontd_> and so easy to stop
[06:20] <jacquesdupontd_> my script did it alone (ive been attacked for those who don't understand on irc)
[06:21] <jacquesdupontd_> pseudo : Tex
[06:21] <jacquesdupontd_> must be a god
[06:21] <jacquesdupontd_> dog
[06:22] <jacquesdupontd_> few watching my movie
[06:22] <jacquesdupontd_> cya
[06:25] <asobi> http://pastebin.com/m5429fe88 it loads but then dies
[06:30] <DaskreecH> asobi: who owns ~/.xchat2 ?
[06:31] <asobi> i do
[06:32] <asobi> as user, not root
[06:39] <asobi> amarok is so stupid >.<
[07:03] <Zeikfried> Has anyone had any experience with compiling and installing an Intel set of drivers for a 950 GMA?
[07:07] <dtchen> there's a PPA for Karmic; Alberto maintains it IIRC
[07:10] <[SilverFox]> anyone here have a  ati 4890?????????
[07:11] <bazhang> [SilverFox], on kubuntu?
[07:11] <[SilverFox]> linux period
[07:11] <bazhang> [SilverFox], you have ubuntu or kubuntu
[07:12] <[SilverFox]> whatever works for the 4890 :)
[07:12] <bazhang> [SilverFox], I see you cross-posting in both channels
[07:12] <[SilverFox]> yeah
[07:12] <[SilverFox]> thats why I was not going to answer
[07:12] <[SilverFox]> I was guessing you were not helping
[07:12] <bazhang> !ati | [SilverFox]
[07:13] <[SilverFox]> does not work
[07:13] <[SilverFox]> we installed 9.11 9.5 we did it all
[07:13] <[SilverFox]> I would get low fps in opengl and my windows would shutter when you move or min/max them
[07:14] <[SilverFox]> It's been a disator since I moved to linux I tried ubun first then kubun and still no good results
[07:14] <bazhang> [SilverFox], more details matter; 'doesn't work' is not enough--->which version of ubuntu or which version of kubuntu (specify clearly) what have you tried, what exact errors have you gotten, paste.ubuntu.com with the errors if more than a single line.
[07:14] <r4v3nsw0rd> what's a good program for watching the display of a usb camera? preferably with less ui, sense I just want to use it as a window
[07:14] <r4v3nsw0rd> on kubuntu
[07:15] <bazhang> !info cheese
[07:15] <ElTimo> any word on kde 4.4 packages?
[07:16] <r4v3nsw0rd> well, cheese is for taking pictures and videos, but is there something that doesn't have that functionality? lol, less is better for what I'm looking for right now, if not, I guess cheese will work fine
[07:16] <[SilverFox]> bazhang no errors just acts like I have a 4 year old video card. I used both the latest ubun and kubun not sure the version but last 2 days both sites the latest one. I even downloaded 64bit of kubun and worst results. So I tried on my nvidia PC and got like 300 fps in this game im working on but on this one like 60-120 max the nvidia pc is like a 2 year old video card.
[07:20] <bazhang> [SilverFox], lsb_release -a in terminal
[07:20] <[SilverFox]> Release:        9.10  Codename:       karmic
[07:25] <r4v3nsw0rd> is there an equivelent to maximus for kubuntu?
[07:29] <DaskreecH> !find kamoso
[07:29] <DaskreecH> ElTimo: There for Lynx not yet for Koala
[07:29] <DaskreecH> !info kamoso
[07:30] <DaskreecH> !info maximus
[07:30] <DaskreecH> r4v3nsw0rd: It's a window manager ?
[07:30] <r4v3nsw0rd> thanks for kamoso Daskreech
[07:30] <r4v3nsw0rd> er, yea, basicly I'd like everything to run maximized, since my monitor is small
[07:31] <DaskreecH> justrun it KDE will obey it
[07:31] <r4v3nsw0rd> ?
[07:32] <r4v3nsw0rd> if I try installing maximus, it asks me to install a bunch of gnome packages as well
[07:32] <DaskreecH> Hmm
[07:33] <DaskreecH> r4v3nsw0rd: try sudo apt-get install maxium --no-install-recommends
[07:34] <r4v3nsw0rd> it's still asking me to install alot of packages =/
[07:35] <r4v3nsw0rd> it's about 8 lines worth of text, so I don't think I should copy and paste it
[07:40] <DaskreecH> r4v3nsw0rd: What are you trying to acheive ?
[07:41] <r4v3nsw0rd> I'm trying to have windows start out maximized by default
[07:41] <r4v3nsw0rd> like chrome and twinkle and applications and the such
[07:42] <r4v3nsw0rd> by default things start up windowed, smaller than the screen, but I want to get it to take up the screen by default
[07:42] <r4v3nsw0rd> sorry if the wording is poor
[07:57] <r4v3nsw0rd> DaskreecH: I've found a solution that involves installing compiz and using compiz windows management placement maximize
[07:58] <DaskreecH> r4v3nsw0rd: You can do that with Kwin
[07:58] <r4v3nsw0rd> thanks for the help though
[07:59] <r4v3nsw0rd> oh, really?
[07:59] <r4v3nsw0rd> how?
[07:59] <DaskreecH> It has a full screen option you can set to as default
[07:59] <r4v3nsw0rd> where is said option?
[08:00] <DaskreecH> Press alt+F3 for the fast option
[08:00] <DaskreecH> YOu can set it to how you like then save it for that application
[08:00] <DaskreecH> So ou can open it full screen with it always on top pinned to a particular desktop with no border
[08:01] <DaskreecH> etc
[08:01] <DaskreecH> Bah
[08:01] <DaskreecH> So you can open it full screen with it always on top pinned to a particular desktop with no border
[08:01] <DaskreecH> etc
[08:01] <r4v3nsw0rd> ah, sorry, it d/ced
[08:02] <DaskreecH> I saw
[08:02] <r4v3nsw0rd> sorry about that
[08:02] <DaskreecH> No problem
[08:03] <DaskreecH> but play with the kwin settings and see if they do what you want
[08:03] <DaskreecH>  kwin is a much better window manager than compiz
[08:03] <r4v3nsw0rd> wait, kwin is a different window manager than compiz? I thought compiz just extended functionality
[08:03] <r4v3nsw0rd> oops
[08:04] <Hans_Henrik_> ever since i installed and uninstalled ClamAV, my bootup has been slower, and "Starting AppArmor" is being done twice during bootup.. ideas what went wrong and/or how to fix?
[08:05] <DaskreecH> r4v3nsw0rd: Nope different programs. Compiz is a fork of metacity which is Gnome's window manager
[08:05] <DaskreecH> compiz is a compositing manager it's purpose is fancy effects but it's not really focused on window management
[08:06] <DaskreecH> kwin is the opposite it's focused on window management and has some compositing effects tacked on
[08:06] <r4v3nsw0rd> I remember switching my active window manager from kwin to compiz, but I can't find where that was located, do you know offhand where that is perchance?
[08:06] <DaskreecH> Hans_Henrik_: sounds like you have scripts set to run multiple times in your boot sequence
[08:06] <DaskreecH>  !upstart | Hans_Henrik_
[08:07] <DaskreecH> r4v3nsw0rd: You can just run kwin --replace
[08:07] <r4v3nsw0rd> ok, thanks
[08:08] <r4v3nsw0rd> hmm, something seems to have broken, I'm going to restart
[08:10] <Zeikfried> Can anyone help me with this issue, i am not sure what exactly i need to input into xorg to fix it.  OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[08:10] <Zeikfried> Do i just input   load "dri" ?
[08:12] <DaskreecH> Zeikfried: Are you using Mesa or Hardware OpenGL ?
[08:12] <Zeikfried> Mesa.
[08:12] <Zeikfried> I am on an Intel.
[08:12] <Peace-> kde 4.4 beta?
[08:12] <Peace-> repo?
[08:12] <Zeikfried> I just used a ppa for some upgraded drivers and i am getting really good quality now, but really crummy FPS, haha.
[08:12] <DaskreecH> Peace-: None yet if you are not on Lynx
[08:13] <Peace-> a damn
[08:13] <DaskreecH> dri might help then
[08:13] <Zeikfried> Says i am running opengl 2.1 which i know my hardware cannot handle, i believe the max i can support hardware wise is 1.4
[08:14] <Zeikfried> OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.2
[09:02] <donald__> yeah
[09:02] <donald__> hello is anyone there?
[09:03] <cheeko> whats ur prob donald__
[09:03] <donald__> nothing just testing
[09:03] <donald__> its my first time using it
[09:03] <donald__> and i am also new to Ubuntu
[09:04] <cheeko> but we are not
[09:04] <donald__> i kow
[09:04] <donald__> know
[09:04] <cheeko> u can always go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:04] <donald__> this thing seem to be Ubuntu only chatroom
[09:05] <cheeko> so there people more responsive in ther
[09:05] <yang_> Hey, what is the best way for i can Kubuntu if i am amuater programer and intermeadite user?
[09:05] <yang_> help kubuntu*
[09:05] <cheeko> yup
[09:05] <donald__> what is kubuntu?
[09:05] <cheeko> kubuntu is kde with ubuntu in it
[09:06] <donald__> im using Ubuntu 9.10
[09:06] <cheeko> i know
[09:06] <yang_> Am i not in Kubuntu channel?
[09:06] <donald__> yeah i tries the KDE which is in the same partition
[09:06] <donald__> but it kinda sucks
[09:06] <cheeko> dont say that
[09:06] <yang_> KDE is amazing what are you talking about?
[09:06] <yang_> Best DE i have ever seen
[09:06] <donald__> yeah it is the best
[09:07] <cheeko> u are right yang_
[09:07] <donald__> but i kept getting pop ups
[09:07] <yang_> What pop ups?
[09:07] <cheeko> so that doent mean u can say it sucks
[09:07] <donald__> like a box on the right corner... it says igorne or something
[09:07] <yang_> notifications? you can customize settings for those.. if you dont like defaults there changable
[09:07] <donald__> i cant find a single way to stop the pops up
[09:07] <donald__> oh
[09:07] <donald__> how u do this?
[09:07] <yang_> right click tray were they come up
[09:08] <yang_> System Tray Settings
[09:08] <cheeko> donald__: because u are new
[09:08] <yang_> try other type of notification rather than KDE notifications. also in 4.3 the improved annyonces w/ that
[09:09] <yang_> When did you last try KDE?
[09:09] <donald__> earlier
[09:09] <donald__> its was the first time
[09:09] <donald__> i remember back then i used KDE on Red Hat Linux
[09:09] <yang_> Aww
[09:09] <donald__> i hates linux so much in the past
[09:10] <donald__> it was boring and not easy
[09:10] <yang_> try KDE 4.3 on 9.10 Kubuntu
[09:10] <donald__> but i like Ubuntu 9.10
[09:10] <donald__> im really using Ultimate 2.5 version
[09:10] <yang_> Grab a live CD from Kubuntu.org
[09:10] <donald__> whats the differences between Kubuntu and Ubunutu?
[09:10] <yang_> Ultimate Ubuntu?
[09:10] <yang_> Kubuntu has KDE
[09:10] <yang_> Ubuntu has GNOME
[09:11] <donald__> but my Ubuntu has both KDE and Gnome
[09:11] <yang_> GNOME looks like old mac look untill you customize. square and full of GTK apps
[09:11] <yang_> KDE is organic and very chanagable
[09:11] <yang_> QT is a good looking frame work
[09:11] <cheeko> dont forget better than windows
[09:11] <donald__> hmmm
[09:11] <yang_> agreed . Window toolkit for Windows sucks
[09:11] <donald__> i think it is only better than windows by performace
[09:12] <donald__> I am also using Windows 7
[09:12] <yang_> maybe  but to me the UI is more intuitive and usable and customiable then Windows.
[09:12] <donald__> its far better than Vista and XP
[09:12] <yang_> Aero eats resources.
[09:12] <donald__> I dont use Aero that much
[09:12] <yang_> aahh
[09:12] <donald__> especially, i have a 4GB RAM
[09:12] <cheeko> so
[09:13] <donald__> it only needs like around 1GB of MEmory
[09:13] <yang_> Well try the new KDE before you decide its not for you. Try to change it.
[09:13] <yang_> Defualts are okay but i love how mine is setup
[09:13] <donald__> i already have KDE and Gnome of Ubunutu installs
[09:13] <donald__> installed.
[09:13] <yang_> what versision of KDE?
[09:13] <donald__> hmmm im not sure
[09:13] <donald__> i ihave to log off
[09:13] <donald__> instead of restart
[09:13] <yang_> i think you can launch KATE
[09:14] <yang_> and go to help -> about KDE
[09:14] <donald__> u can log off and switch the system
[09:14] <yang_> yeah those are called sessions.
[09:14] <donald__> yeah
[09:14] <donald__> sessions
[09:14] <yang_> just launch a KDE App like Kate from gnome
[09:14] <yang_> go to Help -> About KDE
[09:14] <donald__> ok
[09:14] <donald__> where can i find Kate?
[09:15] <cheeko> applications
[09:15] <donald__> ok
[09:15] <yang_> anyway cheeko.. how can i help project. i have seen how to help pages. I want to learn more about trouble shooting Kubuntu. I have been using for 2 years. etc packing? noob development?
[09:16] <donald__> i found Kate
[09:16] <yang_> help -> about KDE
[09:16] <donald__> i am on Version 4.3.2
[09:16] <yang_> yeah. hmm and you dont like it?
[09:16] <yang_> Just pop ups that bother you?
[09:17] <donald__> i do like it
[09:17] <donald__> i just didnt like the notification
[09:17] <yang_> Aww
[09:17] <donald__> that pops up
[09:17] <donald__> my gf was using it
[09:17] <donald__> and she complained about the pops up
[09:17] <donald__> it was her first time using KDE
[09:17] <CAwesome_> Testing Hannah Montana Linux. This thing is absolutely hideous.
[09:17] <yang_> Yeh rite now its unfair to Kompare (lol) KDE to GNOME.
[09:17] <yang_> KDE 4.3 vs GNOME 2 instead of 3
[09:18] <donald__> whats the difference between the two?
[09:18] <donald__> they both runs the same programs on my applications
[09:18] <yang_> GNOME 2 is older more stable etc.
[09:18] <yang_> less features. simlir to KDE 3 when 4 just came out
[09:18] <yang_> Not features part lol
[09:18] <yang_> GNOME 3 has new shell concept and pretty cool features
[09:19] <yang_> simlir to plasma activities. but i like where acitivity idea is going .
[09:19] <donald__> i figured how to use the 3D desktop
[09:19] <donald__> its cool
[09:19] <yang_> yeh i have it also lol the cube?
[09:19] <donald__> yeah the cube
[09:19] <yang_> have you seen the snow effect?
[09:19] <donald__> on windows it cost money
[09:19] <donald__> hmmm
[09:19] <donald__> i dont think so
[09:20] <yang_> system settings-> Desktop -> Desktop Effects -> All Effects
[09:20] <donald__> i just click snow effects
[09:20] <donald__> so when i see the snow?
[09:20] <yang_> WIN+CTL+F12
[09:21] <yang_> Win is offically known as META in Linux
[09:21] <yang_> so META+CTRL+F12
[09:22] <yang_> another kool thing to do is to set activitys to corrispond the virtual desktops.
[09:22] <yang_> you can do that w/ the pager widget.
[09:23] <yang_> http://imagebin.ca/view/lAf0dHW.html
[09:23] <yang_> screenshot of old desktop. check it out. KDE is amazing what you can do.
[09:23] <donald__> it didnt work
[09:24] <yang_> What didn't work?
[09:24] <yang_> oh okay
[09:24] <yang_> system settings-> Desktop -> Desktop Effects -> All Effects scroll down to snow and click the wrench.
[09:24] <yang_> read the key combination that starts it
[09:25] <yang_> you see my screen shot?
[09:25] <yang_> wayy diffrent then defualts but its amazing.
[09:25] <yang_> NB4 backlash for wallpaper lol
[09:25] <cheeko> yang_: the wall paper was of win7 right
[09:25] <yang_> yessir
[09:26] <yang_> that fish is dope lol
[09:26] <donald__> YEAH I see the screenshot
[09:26] <donald__> its dope
[09:27] <donald__> how much memory does it runs in KDE?
[09:27] <yang_> cheeko: now i have 4 activitys each w/ its own function ... internet, clear looks, files multimedia
[09:27] <yang_> i have under 3 GB and i run fine
[09:29] <donald__> does your linux after freeze?
[09:29] <yang__> Crash lol
[09:30] <cheeko> donald__: how long have u been using ubuntu
[09:30] <yang__> wierd issue w/ snow effect 3D  cube and Kwin
[09:30] <cheeko> yang__: u have compiz effects thing
[09:30] <yang__> cheeko: nope Kwin effects. had this since day one
[09:31] <yang__> try to kill kwin and restart but dies w/ "Can not connect to X Server"
[09:31] <cheeko> try them then i heard they dont crash much often]
[09:31] <donald__> i been using Ubuntu for two days
[09:31] <yang__> restart X everytime.. lol stopp w/ snow because of that.
[09:31] <donald__> im happy with the performance
[09:31] <yang__> Compiz is slow for me/
[09:31] <donald__> i see the snow effect
[09:32] <cheeko> and you already started hating the kde
[09:32] <donald__> i will try KDE tomorrow
[09:32] <yang__> Me?
[09:32] <yang__> no i love KDE
[09:32] <donald__> to work around it
[09:32] <donald__> i have problem
[09:32] <donald__> im trying to install this game
[09:32] <yang__> problem?
[09:32] <yang__> what game?
[09:33] <cheeko> is it a windows game
[09:33] <donald__> Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
[09:33] <donald__> it works for the linux
[09:33] <yang__> hmm have you tried wine?
[09:33] <donald__> but it asked me Please enter the installation path
[09:33] <yang__> aww
[09:33] <yang__> C:\Program Files
[09:33] <yang__> dont worry about that wine handles it fine.
[09:33] <donald__> but this is not windows
[09:33] <yang__> yeah.
[09:33] <yang__> But if they game was built for windows dont worry about it .
[09:34] <donald__> so i can use C:\Program Files?
[09:34] <yang__> in your home directory there is .wine/drive_C/Program Files
[09:34] <yang__> yes
[09:34] <donald__> it is not a window game
[09:34] <cheeko> try wine and cedera both
[09:34] <cheeko> so what
[09:34] <cheeko> wine can hande it
[09:34] <yang__> Is there a .exe or no extension?
[09:34] <yang__> if the CD was made for windows yes then use C:\Program Files its okay
[09:35] <yang__> WINE handles everything
[09:35] <donald__> it was download from the web
[09:35] <yang__> was it .exe?
[09:35] <donald__> through terminal
[09:35] <cheeko> donald__: check the wine appdb for the wine rating of the game
[09:35] <donald__> i am not sure if it was the exe
[09:35] <yang__> check?
[09:35] <donald__> i used terminal to download the game and install
[09:36] <donald__> i know how to browse through the hard drive
[09:36] <yang__> platium rating.
[09:36] <yang__> should be great
[09:36] <donald__> but i can find the folders where all the games are located
[09:36] <cheeko> cool then
[09:36] <cheeko> donald__: can try that
[09:36] <yang__> go head and use C:\Program Files
[09:36] <yang__> it is a windows game
[09:36] <donald__> i will show u the link
[09:36] <yang__> you should be fine
[09:36] <donald__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/ReturnToCastleWolfensteinEnemyTerritory
[09:36] <cheeko> with 4 gb ram he shud be
[09:37] <donald__> go to the link
[09:37] <yang__> o okay
[09:37] <yang__> it is a linux game not a windows game
[09:38] <yang__> path to install could be any where you want technically
[09:38] <yang__> i would use /usr/local/bin
[09:38] <donald__> oh ok
[09:38] <yang__> if you like to you can use ~/Public/Games
[09:38] <donald__> i am not sure what the is the drive letter for my unbuntu
[09:38] <donald__> ubuntu
[09:38] <donald__> i forgot
[09:38] <yang__> there is now drive letter
[09:38] <yang__> the "root" or drive letter is
[09:38] <yang__> /
[09:39] <donald__> thats weird
[09:39] <yang__> so " /usr/local/bin"
[09:39] <yang__> not so much wierd as not what your used to
[09:39] <yang__> i like it better to have everything mounted under one root than C & D & E & F
[09:40] <yang__> instead /media/c /media/d etc
[09:40] <donald__> okay i will try use /usr/local/bin
[09:41] <yang__> you will need sudo in front of those commands to make them work
[09:41] <donald__> what is sudo?
[09:41] <yang__> way of getting administrator rights
[09:41] <yang__> to put files anywhere out of your "home" directory or folder you need admin rights.
[09:42] <yang__> so to do so you need to go sudo ..... commands ... command
[09:42] <yang__> it will say enter you password and then works its magics.
[09:42] <donald__> i can access sudo through terminal?
[09:42] <yang__> yupp
[09:42] <yang__> terminal only
[09:42] <yang__> just type sudo then paste command
[09:43] <yang__> should look like "sudo command"
[09:44] <cheeko> can u give me the link to find other games specifically for linux
[09:44] <cheeko> no wine thing
[09:44] <donald__> it asked for password and i did enter the password but it say command not found
[09:44] <yang__> what did you enter after sudo?
[09:44] <donald__> sudo command
[09:44] <yang__> @cheeko there is tons o
[09:45] <yang__> sudo mkdir /usr/local/bin/enemy-territory
[09:46] <yang__> sudo cd /usr/local/bin/enemy-territory
[09:46] <yang__> sudo wget ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/et/linux/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:46] <donald__> i havnt press enter yet at the Installation path
[09:46] <yang__> chmod +x et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:46] <yang__> type /usr/local/bin
[09:47] <yang__> @cheeko http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/top-12-best-games-for-ubuntu-linux-1-tremulous/
[09:48] <yang__> anyway off to bed its 1:30 here .
[09:48] <yang__> CYA all
[09:48] <donald__> when i press enter at the installation path
[09:48] <donald__> it says Failed Permissions
[09:48] <yang__> kay
[09:48] <yang__> quit
[09:49] <yang__> run program w/ sudo in front
[09:49] <cheeko> bye yang__
[09:49] <donald__> ok
[09:49] <cheeko> hope u will be ther 2morow too
[09:49] <yang__> sudo /et- [tab]
[09:49] <donald__> yeah i will
[09:49] <yang__> @cheeko after work . so in roughly 18 hours.
[09:50] <yang__> any way permission anything means run as root or type sudo in front of it.
[09:50] <donald__> its 4:50am
[09:50] <donald__> im in New York
[09:50] <cheeko> yup same handle right
[09:50] <cheeko> im in asia
[09:50] <yang__> nice world wide Kubuntu
[09:50] <donald__> ok
[09:50] <cheeko> donald__: it must be late night
[09:50] <donald__> i know
[09:50] <donald__> lol
[09:50] <donald__> im in college
[09:50] <yang__> anyway cya all @donald go for sudo /et- rest of file name
[10:09] <family> i am in need of some assistance i tried to downgrade my amarok to 1.4 and now my systems all messed up.You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[10:09] <family> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  amarok14-engine-xine: Depends: amarok14 but it is not going to be installed. """"SO I TYPED APT-GET -F INSTALL"""" and get these following errors.. trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/amarokcollectionscanner.1.gz', which is also in package amarok-utils 2:2.2.0-0ubuntu2
[10:09] <family> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe
[10:09] <FloodBotK2> family: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:19] <family> can anyone help please?
[10:22] <CAwesome> family: With what?
[11:45] <soee> hi
[11:46] <Peace-> Hi soee
[11:56] <freinhard> hi!
[11:57] <freinhard> got a last machine on jaunty and i'd like to upgrade using the DAU way, so i clicked on upgrade in kpackagekit, but that one exits with code 127 and no further information
[11:58] <Peace-> freinhard: you should go in the konsole and
[11:58] <Peace-> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:59] <Peace-> that's all
[11:59] <davep> how do i edit the menu in kubuntu netbook?
[11:59] <davep> the firefox button intalls firefox
[11:59] <davep> it doesnt run it.
[11:59] <davep> even after it's installed.
[12:00] <freinhard> Peace-: yeah, i know that, but that's my mum's PC and i'm here just once in a while and she should be able to handle that too
[12:00] <Peace-> davep:  i have normal kubuntu and right click doesn't do the job?
[12:01] <davep> right click doesnt do anything
[12:01] <Peace-> davep: mmm i am sorry
[12:01] <davep> it's all good
[12:01] <davep> i should have just installed normal kubuntu :P
[12:02] <Peace-> davep: for my experience you should use normal kubuntu
[12:02] <Peace-> that interface it's too much young
[12:02] <davep> it took long enough to install though >:|
[12:02] <davep> grub failed to install as usual
[12:02] <Peace-> LOL
[12:02] <Peace-> ah... this realease is the worst i have seen
[12:03] <Peace-> 1 becasue of grub...
[12:03] <Peace-> 2 becasuse aduioo problem are very often on karmic
[12:04] <davep> i thought an expert install would make it less likely to fail
[12:04] <davep> i was wrong :\
[12:04] <davep> turns out "expert install" means "you have to know how to remount the dev files into the chroot"
[12:04] <davep> xD
[12:04] <Peace-> LOL
[12:05] <Peace-> xD
[12:11] <davep> well, i can run firefox from a konsole, so yay
[12:11] <davep> how do i make the font less huge?
[12:49] <KuEEE> is any way to minimaze Quassi IRc in systry?
[12:50] <r00t_ninja> yes
[12:50] <KuEEE> how?
[12:50] <r00t_ninja> there should be an icon by default
[12:50] <soee> by default i think
[12:50] <r00t_ninja> you click the icon
[12:50] <KuEEE> ah ok thnx
[13:06] <nsemennikov> i'v done it, its work :)
[13:29] <pihou_pihou> bjr suis content de redecouvrir kbuntu c bon de planter une debian de temps en temps lol
[13:31] <Bios> hey I got a problem... the dvd playback of vlc is laggy and solutions for this problem?
[13:42] <TeLLuS> Bios: Better videocard driver and or faster cpu?
[14:13] <ForgeAus> does yahoo have any support chat?
[14:20] <Tscheesy> ForgeAus: your IRC-Client can list the channels.. though i found only #yui (yahoo user interface lib)
[14:22] <ForgeAus> heheh tscheesy I didn't necessarily mean here on freenode
[14:54] <eagles0513875> hey guys im trying to install the new software-compilation package 4.3.4 what is its name in its respective ppa repo?
[14:58] <TeLLuS> eagles0513875: Look at http://www.kubuntu.org
[14:59] <eagles0513875> why look there when its in a ppa probably using the ubuntu naming convention
[14:59] <eagles0513875> and its in a ppa
[15:02] <eagles0513875> btw TeLLuS if your interested http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.4
[15:03] <chiqui> I dont want that my kubuntu mount automatically my pendrive
[15:03] <chiqui> Hello
[15:04] <chiqui> i need help
[15:04] <chiqui> i dont know how to disable pendrive automount
[15:04] <eagles0513875> chiqui: patience plz if someone knows the answer they will respond
[15:05] <chiqui> sorry im new here
[15:06] <eagles0513875> its ok chiqui
[15:28] <eagles0513875> hey guys i have the ppa enabled for karmic for the software-compilation packave version 4.3.4 but i dont know the name of the package does anyone know what its called as its not mentioned here
[15:28] <eagles0513875> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.4
[15:31] <diablo> Bonjour, quelqu'un sait comment ajouter une entrée ou modifier les raccourcis des applications dans le menu de kde4 ?
[15:39] <seren__> where exactly does kde store the applications information ?
[15:40] <seren__> like dolphin : file browser : associated icon
[15:48] <ForgeAus> file associations
[15:48] <ForgeAus> kde doesn't store it I don't think
[15:48] <ForgeAus> its something about /etc folder, but I could be wrong there...
[15:50] <seren__> it is probably /usr/share/applications/kde4/dolphin.desktop
[15:50] <RiotingPacifist> sorry to repeat this but i lost all logs for the last 30mins so if i got a reply i lost it I've installed libs to /usr/local how do i get the system to use them instead of the defaults (globally,  e.g not for just a program as i launch it)?
[15:50] <Fiah> Can I ask a question about Xubuntu here?
[15:51] <RiotingPacifist> you can try but #ubuntu / #xubuntu may be better
[15:51] <Frankes> try it
[16:01] <ForgeAus> !info ru
[16:01] <ForgeAus> !ru
[16:01] <ForgeAus> ouch
[16:02] <ForgeAus> oh wait, that said it
[16:24] <WaY> the new notification system of kde 4.3.80 sucks
[16:26] <jesusiete> hola a todos
[16:28] <eagles0513875> !es | jesusiete
[16:29] <RiotingPacifist> WaY: +1, but you should tell #kde not here
[16:30] <WaY> ok sorry :S
[16:30] <WaY> i'm going there eheh
[16:40] <ubuntu> hello
[16:41] <ubuntu> I'd need some help with Kubuntu 9.10
[16:41] <cheeko> helo
[16:41] <cheeko> go on
[16:41] <ubuntu> I'v installed it but grub won't load on startup :(
[16:41] <ubuntu> I'm in live USB session right now
[16:42] <ubuntu> I did this: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[16:42] <ubuntu> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[16:42] <ubuntu> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
[16:42] <ubuntu> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[16:42] <ubuntu> Disk identifier: 0x3b1c7edf
[16:42] <FloodBotK2> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:42] <ubuntu>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[16:42] <Mamarok> ubuntu: please use http://paste.ubuntu.com for more than 3 lines
[16:43] <ubuntu> sorry for the flood
[16:43] <Mamarok> ubuntu: you should have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[16:43] <ubuntu> didn't mean to
[16:43] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[16:43] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[16:43] <ubuntu> and there is a second problem
[16:44] <ubuntu> I tried some time ago installing kubuntu 9.04 and had the same problem, I tried recuperating the disk space with the disk manager from windows vista. it worked for the "d:" but not for the "c:"
[16:45] <ubuntu> the disk manager tells me I'v got 500Gb of space for the C: but the Explorer tells me I'v only got 250
[16:47] <ubuntu> http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1480/capturerzb.jpg (like you can see on this screen capture)
[16:51] <ubuntu> bye
[16:54] <twig11> If I install kubuntu-desktop from an standard Ubuntu installation, can I then edit the application menus from within gnome to show only gnome apps, and edit the kde menus to show only kde apps, to avoid clutter when I log into one or the other?
[17:01] <Mamarok> cheeko: why are you pinging me?
[17:02] <cheeko> typo erreor sorry
[17:02] <cheeko> im using a command line integrated chatzilla
[17:21] <gorgonizer> Any news on KDE 4.4 Beta 1 packages for Karmic?
[17:26] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: well as i can check on the staging PPA,everythings good except for kubuntu-meta which failed to build for ilpa
[17:27] <gorgonizer> shadeslayer: cheers for that, I guess it is best to wait for it to be moved to a different PPA repository (I am on amd64)
[17:27] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: yeah,im waiting too.... itll probably be uploaded to backports this week or by next week
[17:28] <gorgonizer> shadeslayer: I installed Lucid in a VM just to see KDE 4.4, it looks nice.. looking forward to having it on my main machine..
[17:30] <shadeslayer> gorgonizer: :)
[17:44] <lordganesh> what is difference bitween eth0 and ppp0
[17:45] <shadeslayer> lordganesh: uh... eth0 is your ethernet connection..
[17:45] <cheeko> lordganesh: eth0 is ur ether net
[17:45] <wesley> yeah we can drop firefox final, google chrome is released for linux
[17:45] <lordganesh> shadeslayer: and what is ppp0
[17:45] <anon0065> Since update to Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42 (happened about 2 days ago) now flash won't work in firefox.  about:addons says its ok, but its not.  anyone else?
[17:45] <shadeslayer> lordganesh: hmm.. probably some other connection
[17:45] <Peace-> kde 4.4 beta news?
[17:45] <wesley> not yet
[17:46] <Peace-> :(
[17:46] <shadeslayer> Peace-: staging has all packages except for kubuntu-meta
[17:46] <Peace-> xD i want kde 4.4 !
[17:46] <Peace-> even if it's beta
[17:46] <shadeslayer> Peace-: compile it :P
[17:46] <Peace-> nah....
[17:46] <islington> lol
[17:46] <Peace-> i am lazy xD
[17:47] <shadeslayer> Peace-: then wait :D
[17:47] <islington> btw weather widget is now broken so I wrote up a workaround: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1353963
[17:47] <Peace-> *-*
[17:47] <cheeko> ^_^
[17:48] <lordganesh> shadeslayer: i am using system monitor widget this two connection shows me same speeds ,,and nearly same data downloaded when i check through ifconfig ,,
[17:48] <shadeslayer> it usually doesnt take this long for packages... but 4.4 is different
[17:48] <islington> where is the staging ppa?
[17:48] <shadeslayer> lordganesh: hmm... dunno.. they might be same :)
[17:48] <shadeslayer> islington: its NOT for use
[17:48] <islington> I just wanna see :)
[17:49] <shadeslayer> islington: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging
[17:49] <islington> soo close I did not get to the /staging part
[17:49] <shadeslayer> hehe...
[17:59] <MaquinaX> hello everyone...
[17:59] <shadeslayer> MaquinaX: hi
[17:59] <cheeko> hello MaquinaX
[17:59] <cheeko> any help
[18:01] <MaquinaX> my Network Manager is broke.....icon is the bottom says "networking information not available", I use terminal to establish ip lease
[18:01] <shadeslayer> MaquinaX: try wicd
[18:01] <MaquinaX> also, right click shows: Network Management disabled"
[18:02] <MaquinaX> shadeslayer: install it?
[18:03] <shadeslayer> MaquinaX: yep
[18:08] <Galvatron> Hi
[18:08] <shadeslayer> Galvatron: hi
[18:08] <will> In 9.10 is UXA automatically activated upon installation on an Intel 950 chipset?
[18:09] <shadeslayer> will: i think so
[18:09] <Galvatron> Each time I reboot, folder view resets to default dimensions/shape
[18:09] <robinking623> wow, really lots of people here
[18:11] <will> Where would i go to tell if UXA is enabled or not?
[18:11] <will> The xorg.conf isnt in the usual place so i am a little confused.
[18:11] <Galvatron> So each time I heve to set the folder dimensions again (the widget remains locked)
[18:11] <shadeslayer> will: xorg is depreceated
[18:11] <shadeslayer> !xorg
[18:12] <will> What do you mean shadeslayer?
[18:12] <will> No longer in use?
[18:12] <shadeslayer> will: it isnt used anymore
[18:13] <will> So what do i access for configuration now?
[18:13] <tsimpson> Xorg is still used, just not xorg.conf
[18:14] <will> What do i edit now instead of xorg.conf?
[18:14] <tsimpson> you don't edit anything, there is no config
[18:14] <njathan> anyone faced this strange problem in kubuntu 9.10 dvd.....? whenever i try to do a 'disk check' or a 'show me without installing' option at startup (of the install dvd), the screen goes blank
[18:15] <tsimpson> will: maybe #xorg know how
[18:15] <njathan> i am afraid i may lose a lot of time installing and rolling back to 9.04...
[18:15] <shadeslayer> njathan: maybe the disk is corrupt?
[18:18] <njathan> maybe you are right...... i'd have to re-burn the dvd... but i saw a different behaviour in Lenovo R61 laptop... where it showed me a 'K' screen without a progressbar (upon disk check)... this got me thinking if i should be again downloading the disk.. (i deleted the orig copy of the dvd image :-p)
[18:19] <njathan> shadeslayer: earlier i'd tried on lenovo G550
[18:21] <shadeslayer> njathan: try a md5sum on the disk and compare it to the kubuntu image
[18:22] <njathan> shadeslayer: hmm.. thats a good idea
[18:23] <njathan> shadeslayer: but last time i did it.. it gives an md5 for each package... an not the one for the iso image :-(
[18:23] <shadeslayer> njathan: hmm... try using the manpages... i dont have alot of idea about md5sum
[18:32] <ozs> привет
[18:44] <will> Nvm, UXA is enabled by default in 9.10
[18:52] <tazz> how do i get slideshow as a screensaver in kubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:55] <tazz> kscreensaver i guess.
[18:55] <tazz> i was wondering if i could get it with default install
[19:00] <hacking> nesecito ayuda de ustedes, tengo que poner una wifi en modo monitor y no se como hacerlo por que no existen drivers aparentemente para esta placa, es una syntek semiconductor dongle usb de mi bangho fit h10
[19:00] <ilpresidente> hello
[19:00] <ilpresidente> bonjour
[19:01] <ilpresidente> are there any girl?
[19:01] <Mamarok> ilpresidente: please see /topic, this is a support channel
[19:02] <ilpresidente> ?
[19:02] <Mamarok> !es | hacking
[19:02] <ilpresidente> no hablo espanol
[19:02] <hacking> ok
[19:02] <hacking> bye
[19:02] <Mamarok> ilpresidente: that was not for you
[19:03] <Mamarok> ilpresidente: read the topic of this channel if you look for a date, you should not ask in any Ubuntu related channel, wrong topic
[19:03] <ilpresidente> ?
[19:09] <jjesse> question i found a 9.10 live usb drive laying aroudn the house, is there an easy way to tell if it is amd64 or i386?
[19:10] <chibi-wing> jjesse: load it up and uname -a
[19:15] <ilpresidente> why dou
[19:15] <ilpresidente> why do you respect the topic?
[19:18] <Mamarok> ilpresidente: that is a useless question, do you need support or not?
[19:19] <ilpresidente> no
[19:19] <jjesse> thanks chibi-wing it was i686
[19:19] <jjesse> and wanted amd64
[19:20] <Mamarok> ilpresidente: then please do not disturb the support flow here, discussion is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[19:21] <ilpresidente> ok thanls
[19:21] <ilpresidente> thanks
[19:25] <SAngeli> Hi, how to install pwmanager (a KDE applicationo) on xubuntu? I fail to find it in applications. Please let me know
[19:25] <SAngeli> this is a KDE application
[19:26] <SAngeli> I believe perhaps I should add a repository into xubuntu?
[19:32] <SAngeli> anybody alive???????????????????
[19:32] <SAngeli> anybody alive???????????????????
[19:32] <SAngeli> How to install pwmanager (a KDE applicationo) on xubuntu? I fail to find it in applications. Please let me know
[19:32] <SAngeli> I believe perhaps I should add a repository into xubuntu?
[19:41] <chelos> Hi
[19:41] <ilpresidente> hi
[19:43] <chelos> I have problem in configuring microphone in kubuntu karmic
[19:43] <prefrontal> hey, my workstation is totally fsck'd after upgrading to karmic. the mounts are all haywire. have a look at the before/after output of mount: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1713492
[19:43] <prefrontal> X/KDM won't start, they complain that they can't find freetype.. wtf?
[19:44] <chelos> kubuntu karmic 32 bits
[19:44] <zegenie> anyone know if there are any kde 4.4 beta repositories/packages available yet? :)
[19:45] <prefrontal> yes you can install the lucid alpha to get it
[19:45] <slow-motion> hi
[19:45] <Mamarok> zegenie: no, not available yet, see the website http://kubuntu.org for announcements
[19:45] <Mamarok> prefrontal: that is not a good idea, Alpha is not meant for productive use
[19:47] <prefrontal> Mamarok, plz think about my issue briefly
[19:48] <Mamarok> prefrontal: how did you install Karmic, upgrade or fresh install?
[19:48] <prefrontal> network upgrade
[19:48] <prefrontal> it worked at first, then took a dive
[19:48] <prefrontal> the mounts were always messed up. at first i had to type mount -t nfs -a, but now the nfs  mount works automatically
[19:49] <prefrontal> (they weren't messed up b4 upgrade of course..)
[19:51] <Mamarok> prefrontal: did you check your /etc/fstab if all is set correctly there?
[19:51] <zegenie> Mamarok: I know, but it doesn't really say anything
[19:52] <zegenie> "keep checking back" for a week ++ isn't very useful
[19:52] <zegenie> anyways, thanks for the answer
[19:52] <Mamarok> zegenie: well, you need to be patient, then
[19:52] <zegenie> Mamarok: that's not very helpful either
[19:52] <Mamarok> not easy to build as it seems, there are a few problems
[19:53] <prefrontal> Mamarok, fstab hasn't changed. here it is: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1713502
[19:53] <zegenie> aha, anything specific  I should keep my eye out for when I do it myself?
[19:53] <Mamarok> zegenie: anyway, yu are not supposed to use any beta release in a productive environment anyway
[19:53] <Mamarok> you*
[19:53] <zegenie> Mamarok: who said I was?
[19:53] <Mamarok> zegenie: well, then ask in the -devel channel if you want to help testing
[19:54] <zegenie> cool
[19:54] <zegenie> kubuntu-devel?
[19:54] <zegenie> apparently so
[19:55] <Mamarok> zegenie: yes
[19:55] <zegenie> thanks for the tip, I'll check it out
[19:56] <MilitantPotato> Anyone else having Kwin crash on 2.6.31-17?
[19:56] <Mamarok> zegenie: just be advised that it is not a support channel
[19:56] <Mamarok> MilitantPotato: I didn't so far, no
[19:56] <zegenie> Mamarok: no worries, I've been around for a while
[19:56] <MilitantPotato> Nvidia or ATI?
[19:56] <MilitantPotato> @ Mamarok
[19:56] <Mamarok> MilitantPotato: ATI
[19:57] <MilitantPotato> Repo or self installed drivers?
[19:57] <Mamarok> I use the Radeon drivers
[19:57] <MilitantPotato> alright
[20:27] <kriss3d> does anyone know which program for ubuntu that will let me download streamed videos from sites like youtube and the like ?
[20:28] <prefrontal> firefox
[20:28] <ilpresidente> flashgot
[20:29] <kriss3d> flashgot ? ill just check that out..
[20:29] <kriss3d> what do you mean by firefox ? it hardly lets me just download the files without me having to look throug the code and decrypt what the heck the real filename is
[20:35] <ilpresidente> #kubuntu-offtopic i'm alone
[20:39] <bearbonez> kriss3d: firefox with the downloadhelper add-on :)
[20:39] <kriss3d> bearbonez: ty
[20:40] <bearbonez> kriss3d: thats what I use ;-)
[20:40] <kriss3d> does it directly read the sourcecode and download the flv files ?
[20:42] <kriss3d> bearbonez:  what the ??.. uhmm how am i supposed to download a video using this ? there is no button for downloading videos in the menu
[20:43] <kriss3d> when i click search video it opens a search textbox
[20:44] <bearbonez> kriss3d: you should see a symbol like tree balls on the navigation bar
[20:44] <kriss3d> yeah.
[20:44] <kriss3d> it opens up a list of sites thats supported
[20:44] <bearbonez> it will animate when there is a video to download just click the down arrow to the right
[20:45] <kriss3d> well its grey though im at a site it claims is supported
[20:45] <bearbonez> set up the converter first so it will convert flv to avi
[20:45] <kriss3d> does it only animate once a video is fully loaded ?
[20:46] <bearbonez> kriss3d: no it should animate any time your on a webpage with flash videos on it
[20:47] <jyvajemmari> hey man, could anyone help me with my external hard drive? it used to work perfectly but after i ran some bug updates it doesnt work anymore at all, the little widget that tells about plugged in devices doesnt even find it
[20:47] <bearbonez> kriss3d: though they can take a while to start downloading
[20:47] <kriss3d> well i set it to convert but it doesnt do anything when i load the site.. its just grey.. there is no down arrow next to it
[20:47] <bearbonez> kriss3d: which site ?
[20:48] <kriss3d> empflix
[20:48] <kristoff> hi! do you know how to open a *.disk?
[20:49] <bearbonez> kriss3d: works fine on mine, just click a thumbnail to go to that page then download :-/
[20:50] <bearbonez> kriss3d: you'll need ffmpeg installed to convert
[20:50] <kriss3d> now it works..
[20:51] <kriss3d> odd.. it was my firewall.. im having nothing but trouble trying to run steaming sites with my firewall active..
[20:51] <kriss3d> youtube works.. cam4 doesnt work..
[20:54] <kriss3d> bearbonez: do you happen to know which port cam4.com uses ? it always blocks on my firewall but all other sites that uses flv streams seems to work
[20:55] <andy25> hi, I'm trying to install 9.10, but when I try to boot as a LiveCD, it freezes on a page of text, ending on [      53.509665]   [<c078e07c>] i386_start_kernel+0x7c/0x83
[20:57] <bearbonez> kriss3d: sorry dont know :-/
[20:58] <kriss3d> ok
[21:01] <ron_> hey, i need some help setting up wireless in 9.10
[21:01] <ron_> please?
[21:01] <kriss3d> well whats the problem ?
[21:02] <ron_> i dont know how
[21:02] <kriss3d> ok.. uhmm can ubuntu even see your wifi ?
[21:02] <ron_> yes
[21:02] <kriss3d> thats a start.. ok start up the network-manager
[21:02] <ron_> but i connect to it and it doesnt work
[21:03] <kriss3d> try first going via cable and disable all encryption on the AP
[21:03] <ron_> ok i'll try.
[21:03] <ron_> i can't disable encryption
[21:03] <ron_> not my authority
[21:03] <kriss3d> what kind of encryption does it use ?
[21:04] <ron_> it was wep the last time i checked
[21:04] <ron_> the admin might have changed though
[21:04] <kriss3d> sounds odd
[21:05] <ron_> how so?
[21:05] <kriss3d> what does it say when you try to set up the connection ? wpa or wep
[21:05] <ron_> hold on
[21:05] <kriss3d> well usually users would know if its wpa or wep
[21:05] <ron_> i'll check
[21:05] <ron_> i haven't used this one in ages
[21:06] <ron_> network manager says wep
[21:07] <ron_> but i enter the passphrase and it says it connects
[21:07] <kriss3d> ok.. thats weak.. tell him to secure his AP then..
[21:07] <kriss3d> well thats good
[21:07] <kriss3d> then what ?
[21:07] <ron_> but
[21:07] <ron_> i cant get a regular connection
[21:08] <kriss3d> well it should tell you somthing.. do you get an IP ?
[21:09] <ron_> no
[21:09] <ron_> nothing
[21:11] <m_tadeu_> hi everyone
[21:11] <ron_> this thing is a pain
[21:11] <kriss3d> is it supposed to give you an IP ?
[21:11] <ron_> it should
[21:11] <m_tadeu_> my kubuntu just stoped for 5sec and reboot
[21:11] <ron_> i'll contact the admin,
[21:11] <kriss3d> it might be the network-manager that is a problem.  i had to install wicd.. so i suggest you do that as well.. it wants you to uninstall the network-manager to be sure to get the wicd first..
[21:11] <ron_> i don't like him though
[21:12] <ron_> wicd?
[21:12] <ron_> i'll give that a try
[21:12] <ron_> thanks
[21:12] <kriss3d> its a better manager
[21:12] <ron_> thanks kriss
[21:13] <kriss3d> np
[21:22] <m_tadeu_> anyone? my kubuntu sometimes reboots with no reason....I don't even know where to look for problems
[21:22] <ikonia> does it shut down and reboot, or just power off and reboot
[21:23] <kriss3d> thats odd.. im only having problems with World of warcraft freezing up the entire computer once in a while..
[21:23] <m_tadeu_> doesn't go throught the shutdown process....reboots imidiatelly
[21:24] <ikonia> m_tadeu_: most likley hardware then if it's a quick power off and restart
[21:25] <m_tadeu_> today I've seen it....it frose for about 5sec and then bios startup
[21:25] <ikonia> m_tadeu_: sounds like a hardware issue
[21:25] <m_tadeu_> how can I trace that?
[21:26] <ikonia> tough one, first of all be aware of #hardware as a channel, but I'd use tools like memtest on the ubuntu livecd, to test the obvious stuff like ram (read up on how to use it before using it to get non-false results)
[21:28] <m_tadeu_> so this ##hardware channel is for linux hardware problems?
[21:28] <ikonia> m_tadeu_: it's for hardware problems in general
[21:28] <roam> what's the Problem with kopete-cryptography? The security update on 9.04 broke it and an upgrade of 9.10 to kde4.3.4 from ppa breaks it
[21:29] <andy25> hi, could problems with kubuntu installing, as well as bios and grub being very slow, be to do with which IDE slots are being used?
[21:30] <ikonia> andy25: unplug them and find out
[21:30] <andy25> ikonia: but wouldn't the computer not be able to run when they're unplugged?
[21:30] <ikonia> andy25: it will load the bios
[21:31] <andy25> ikonia: ah, and if that loads quicker, then that's the problem?
[21:31] <ikonia> good basic test
[21:31] <andy25> ok, thanks :-)
[21:35] <andy25> ikonia: ah, booted before doing anything to the cables, it says "No IDE Master H.D.D. Detected!"
[21:36] <andy25> so plugging the IDE cables into different sockets will fix it?
[21:37] <ikonia> some bios's will only boot from a disk set to primary master
[21:37] <andy25> ah ok
[21:37] <andy25> because I've always had to put funny boot options when installing linux
[21:37] <andy25> and the bios and grub have always taken forever to load
[21:38] <ikonia> I don't see a reason why without understanding the problem
[21:39] <andy25> in the past I've used noapic, acpi=off, and I think others. I tried using those 2 to install it this time, but it didn't work
[21:40] <ikonia> your board may now be acpi compatible
[21:40] <ikonia> it's moved on in years
[21:40] <andy25> ikonia: oh right. well even with a normal boot, it wouldn't run
[21:41] <ikonia> what happened ?
[21:41] <andy25> it freezes on a page of text, ending on [ 53.509665] [<c078e07c>] i386_start_kernel+0x7c/0x83
[21:41] <ikonia> how long ?
[21:41] <andy25> I waited about 15 mins, still nothing
[21:41] <ikonia> fair enough
[21:41] <andy25> the screen was full of lines like that
[21:42] <ikonia> first things a.) what board is this b.) is your bios up to date c.) do any other OS's work that you know of currently ?
[21:42]  * ikonia begs it not to be an msi board
[21:43] <andy25> it's an Asus board
[21:43] <ikonia> do you know what model ?
[21:43] <andy25> A8N-VM CSM
[21:43] <ikonia> don't know that board, let me look at the spec see if there is anything obvious
[21:43] <ikonia> how old is it ?
[21:44] <andy25> my friend built the computer from the parts
[21:44] <xh_> hi! how to add a persistent symlink to /dev/dvd? i am running kubuntu 9.10 and for some reason it creates the symlink /dev/sr0 > /dev/dvd1 if i create the symlink manually (ln -s /dev/sr0 /dev/dvd) it works but since udev is used the symlink is gone after a reboot; any way to solve consistently?
[21:44] <andy25> er, probably about 3-4 years old
[21:44] <ikonia> xh_: add a udev rule, but I'm very spurprised that doesn't happen for you already as that is an existing rule
[21:44] <andy25> I've had linux installed before, after using the boot options. WinXP would only boot into safe mode
[21:45] <xh_> ikonia: the existing rule creates /dev/dvd1 instead of /dev/dvd..
[21:45] <ikonia> interesting, the fact that windows won't boot suggests there is more than meets the eye as that's normally got full acpi comability
[21:45] <ikonia> xh_: it's creating dvd1 as it thinks dvd exists
[21:45] <xh_> ikonia: probably, but it does not, and creating the link manually works as i mentioned
[21:46] <ikonia> personally - I would get into single user mode and re-start udev to see if you get any debugging out put as to why it's doing dvd1
[21:46] <andy25> ikonia: so the ide cables in the wrong slots couldn't explain everything?
[21:46] <ikonia> andy25: nah
[21:47] <andy25> ah, damn lol
[21:47] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[21:47] <ikonia> andy25: in the bios it's worth looking at the info for your ide disks, eg: make sure raid is disabled (I've just seen the terrible raid controller it's got on it) and see if the disks have "mode" settings on them ?
[21:47] <ikonia> andy25: also %101 make sure your bios is up to date with the lastest stable bios
[21:48] <ikonia> andy25: that's two key things I believe you should do
[21:48] <andy25> ikonia: would I be able to update the bios using linux though?
[21:48] <ikonia> andy25: no, probably not, most make you make a boot cd/floppy
[21:48] <andy25> ah ok
[21:49] <andy25> Primary IDE Master = HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GS
[21:49] <andy25> isn't that the DVD drive being the master? should it be? :S
[21:51] <ikonia> andy25: looks like the dvd is the master, yes
[21:51] <andy25> then the Primary IDE Slave = Maxtor 6L200P0
[21:52] <andy25> nVidia RAID Function = Disabled
[21:53] <ikonia> raid disabled is a good sign
[21:53] <andy25> the bios is an old version - 2005
[21:53] <andy25> looks like their updater is a .exe though
[21:54] <ikonia> well, that may still be the latest, be good to bring it up to stable if possible
[21:54] <andy25> there's a 2007 version
[21:54] <ikonia> andy25: yeah, bring it up to spec then
[21:54] <andy25> hm, beta version from 2007, stable from 2006
[21:55] <ikonia> stable for me - but it's %100 your call
[21:55] <andy25> hm yeah, I downloaded their bios updater, it's an exe, and when running it on this pc (windows) it comes up with a command line which disappears
[21:56] <ikonia> andy25: you need to read the instructions on how to use it and not just run it, as I said most will force you to make a boot disk
[21:56] <ikonia> andy25: never run stuff like that without reading you could damage your pc beyond repair
[21:57] <andy25> ikonia: it doesn't come with any instructions, just the single .exe file in a folder
[21:57] <ikonia> andy25: there will be instructions on the web page for it
[21:58] <steveness> if your computer aint broken, don't fix it
[21:59] <andy25> ikonia: just looking at the manual. so would the DVD being master and HDD being slave be a problem as well?
[21:59] <ikonia> andy25: possible, but doubtful
[22:03] <kriss3d> most bios has a check to see if its it will even accept it..
[22:03] <kriss3d> ive tested it.. but naturally i cant guarantee all computers does that
[22:06] <andy25> ikonia: hm, the bios has an option "Wait for 'F1' if error" - and it always does, after saying "No IDE Master H.D.D. Detected!"
[22:06] <ikonia> andy25: ok - put the disk on the ide master channel and make sure the jumpers on the disk are set to master, not cable select or slave
[22:07] <andy25> I'm not really sure about the IDE cables and which are which, might have to get someone to have a look at it :/
[22:08] <ikonia> andy25: download the manual off the net, if you take the hard disk out it often has a sticker on explaining the jumper settings
[22:08] <andy25> ah ok, thanks
[22:08] <davep> kubuntu netbook doesnt seem very... polished
[22:08] <andy25> ikonia: hm, and for the BIOS update, looks like it can only be done on floppy or on windows
[22:09] <davep> eg. i click the network icon, and click a wifi connection, and nothing happens.
[22:09] <andy25> and the only computer I have with a floppy drive is that one
[22:09] <ikonia> andy25: I told you that
[22:09] <davep> eg. i click the firefox icon, and it tries to install firefox, and will continue to install it, even after it's already  isntalled. reboot fixed that
[22:09] <davep> but how can i connect to my wifi?
[22:09] <davep> it's set to automatically connect, but KDE appears to have a different definition of automatic.
[22:11] <davep> the only time kde has ever shown me a connect button, is when i try to connect to a network that it's not configured to connect to.
[22:11] <andy25> ikonia: well you said maybe a boot cd, but doesn't look like I can do that :/
[22:11] <ikonia> andy25: a cd would probably be fine as long as it had the supported (dos normally) OS on it
[22:12] <ikonia> andy25: failing that you can get boot disks off the net
[22:12] <andy25> ikonia: ah ok. just it only mentions floppies in the manual
[22:12] <davep> amazing
[22:12] <davep> once a network is added to the system
[22:12] <davep> it is no longer possible to connect to it
[22:12] <ikonia> andy25: well, no promise a dvd would work, but probably would
[22:13] <andy25> ikonia: ok thanks
[22:13] <crashdata> davep: try using wicd
[22:15] <davep> crashdata: <3
[22:16] <crashdata> davep: :)
[22:23] <Radist> jh,
[22:42] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[22:56] <SamWeasley> Hi!
[22:57] <SamWeasley> I had updated my Kubuntu Karmic and X gone really unstable. Intel Driver GMA450
[22:57] <SamWeasley> Any tips?
[22:57] <SamWeasley> Correction GMA945
[22:57] <KingCreole> Hi there! Does anybody know what's the matter with bugs.launchpad.net ? Wanted to file a bug, but I'm getting only timeouts
[23:01] <EagleSn> SamWeasley: Karmic works pretty well for me with that graphics driver
[23:01] <EagleSn> are you using official karmic packages?
[23:02] <SamWeasley> I'm with xorg-edgers PPA
[23:03] <SamWeasley> EagleSn: want to see a copy of my sources.list?
[23:04] <EagleSn> yes, but overall the exact version of your xserver-xorg-video-intel package
[23:04] <SamWeasley> Okay. link for patebin http://pastebin.com/m455da208
[23:06] <SamWeasley> Driver version: 2.9.99.901
[23:06] <EagleSn> you are not using karmic packages
[23:07] <SamWeasley> EagleSn: do you believe xorg.edgers PPA could gone havoc?
[23:07] <EagleSn> you have a beta version of intel driver installed
[23:08] <EagleSn> but that version should be enought good, you may also have installed experimentak or broken versions of other X stuff, like X server, libraries..
[23:09] <SamWeasley> I don't know...
[23:09] <SamWeasley> EagleSn, the weird thing is, i use onle PPAs from ubuntu and the normal thing (Medibuntu, Skype, Google...)
[23:10] <SamWeasley> EagleSn, KDE was gone so havoc that I installe LXDE so I could use a GUI while trying to work out KDE
[23:10] <SamWeasley> X was gone so much speedy, but so much unstable with KDE
[23:11] <EagleSn> comment your extra-official repositories related to X (Xorg edgers), and force to isntall karmic version of the packages, you may want to di it with Synaptic
[23:13] <EagleSn> my intel driver version 2.9.0 works very well, but there is a new stable version 2.9.1 in this PPA ppa:xorg-edgers/drivers-only, try it if you want, but overall, asure a full upgrade to karmic running this command "sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade"
[23:13] <SamWeasley> EagleSn: okay, commented on sources.list
[23:13] <SamWeasley> EagleSn: can I use apt-get or aptitude is better?
[23:14] <EagleSn> yes, if youu feel more confortable with them, ofcourse
[23:14] <SamWeasley> EagleSn: okay... I gone with aptitude
[23:14] <EagleSn> version 2.9.99.901 sounds experimental
[23:15] <EagleSn> i muts to leave SamWeasley
[23:15] <SamWeasley> EagleSn Thanks anyway
[23:15] <SamWeasley> I think things will stable now
[23:16] <SamWeasley> LXDE is okay now...
[23:16] <EagleSn> ok, but, my xserver-xorg is 1:7.4+3ubuntu10, and my xserver-xorg-video-intel is 2:2.0.0-1ubuntu2
[23:17] <EagleSn> sorry, xserver-xorg version 2:2.9.0-1ubuntu2
[23:17] <SamWeasley> Okay... EagleSn, do you know how to force him to downgrade a package?
[23:18] <jesse2> Good evening.  I've just installed kubuntu and am unable to hear any sound on Flash videos (IE when i visit youtube).  Sound appears to be working on other apps, though -- at least i hear the KDE login music when is tart up.
[23:18] <EagleSn> oh no, xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.0-1ubuntu2, sorry, see what i say? i must go to sleep yet! lol
[23:18] <EagleSn> with aptitude i only know how to do it in interactive mode
[23:18] <SamWeasley> okay
[23:18] <EagleSn> sudo aptitude
[23:19] <SamWeasley> Thanks anyway EagleSn
[23:20] <EagleSn> jesse2: you may try woth another phonon backend, see packages phonon-backend-xine and phonon-backend-gstreamer, you can swith from one to another in Systemsettings -> Hardware?
[23:20] <EagleSn> god bye
[23:21] <jesse2> thanks eaglesn, i'll give that a try
[23:21] <SamWeasley> thanks a lot eaglesn
[23:25] <jesse2> brb gonna reboot
[23:29] <jesse2> EagleSn: I installed the package you mentioned but i dont see anything about sound in system settings -> hardware
[23:29] <jesse2> and i dont see anything about those packages in system settings -> multimedia
[23:30] <jesse2> ive just discovered im a huge idiot; my mixer was muted!
[23:31] <muri_one> does kubuntu have the ability to hide panels, and reveal them when I move my mouse to a specific corner?
[23:34] <muri_one> even better would be instead of hiding in the corner, it would just sit below windows, and moving my mouse to the corner would cause it to raise
[23:35] <Dragnslcr> You can set panels to auto-hide, but I think the only way to have it appear is to move your mouse to that edge of the screen
[23:38] <muri_one> so we still don't have kde 3 kicker features yet. :/
[23:53] <r4v3nsw0rd> is there a way to disable the popup info things on the taskbar? the main one that I've been wanting to disable is the one that pops up after hovering over the kickoff application launcher
[23:57] <Brhad56> Needs the "shake" feature that 7 has,