[00:38] <cratylus> does launchpad have a preferred/builtin patch manager? trying to decide whether to go with quilt or something else
[00:39] <wgrant> cratylus: Launchpad doesn't care about that -- it just builds Debian packages.
[00:39] <wgrant> cratylus: But quilt is preferred by the community these days, and is part of the new source package format.
[00:40] <cratylus> wgrant, makes sense. wanted to double check. glad to hear it's the preferred one. gonna go with it for mine as well
[00:40] <cratylus> thanks!
[00:41] <shakaran2> hi, how can I put the my app on Ubuntu here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/tivion
[00:41] <wgrant> shakaran2: You'll want to talk to #ubuntu-motu about getting your package into universe.
[00:41] <shakaran2> oh, thanks
[00:46] <jussi01> does Leonard Richardson have a IRC nick here on frenode?
[00:46] <wgrant> leonardr
[00:46] <wgrant> But he's away at the moment, IIRC.
[00:46] <jussi01> Ahh, not here atm. ok. Ill see if he is around on monday
[00:47] <wgrant> You're lucky -- that's when he's back.
[00:47] <jussi01> :)
[00:47] <jussi01> wgrant: feel like fixing another unrelated bug for me? :) :D
[00:47] <wgrant> jussi01: Worth a try.
[00:48] <jussi01> wgrant: bug 495964
[00:48] <wgrant> Ew, DB changes.
[00:48] <wgrant> RUN AWAY!
[00:48] <jussi01> hehe
[00:48] <jussi01> is it really such a huge thing?
[00:49] <wgrant> It means it has to go through a couple of extra people.
[00:49] <wgrant> And it's much harder to fix if it ends up not working.
[00:50] <jussi01> very ouchies.
[00:51] <jussi01> wgrant: can you think off a work around? some other way to do it?
[00:52] <wgrant> jussi01: You could look for members that will expire soon using the API, and email using a local script.
[00:52] <wgrant> Although that approach runs into problems if people have their addresses hidden.
[00:52] <jussi01> basically its for the IRCC ops import to LP, we want to give people some more info when the big expiry happens
[00:54] <jussi01> anyway, I got to head now, if you think of something, please just hilight me.
[04:45] <wgrant> Hmm, edge seems to have gone bad.
[04:46] <wgrant> And lpnet.
[04:47] <wgrant> lifeless: ^^?
[04:48] <james2432> launchpad is down?
[04:48] <RiotingPacifist> I think luanchpad is down
[04:48] <RiotingPacifist> snap
[04:49] <Peng> Known issue. Ish.
[04:49] <james2432> makes me a sad panda :(
[04:50] <ScottK> wgrant: Thanks.  That's what I was wondering.
[04:50] <james2432> lol
[04:51] <cody-somerville> Seems to be back now
[04:51] <wgrant> Not for me.
[04:52] <wgrant> Ah, yes, there we go.
[04:52] <james2432> me either
[04:52] <wgrant> james2432: Try dropping the offline.html from the URL.
[04:52] <james2432> did that
[04:52] <james2432> restarting browser
[04:52] <cody-somerville> Seems to be a load issue. The gateway is timing out.
[04:52] <wgrant> Ah, yeah, edge still unhappy.
[04:52] <wgrant> edge is OK too now.
[04:53] <james2432> nope, redirects me to offline.html
[04:53] <james2432> after 1 or 2 seconds of load
[04:53] <RiotingPacifist> i'm still a sad panda, mainpage is up http://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers is down
[04:54] <wgrant> cody-somerville: Do you know if anybody is on it?
[04:54] <RiotingPacifist> i guess the ppas are still down
[04:55] <jcape> Any idea when the site will be back up?
[04:55] <aberghage> eh, I'm still getting offline.html after a little loading wait on the mainpage, too. Ah well, not much to do but wait.
[04:56] <jcape> Yeah, I'm trying to sync tomboy notes right now, this is making it difficult :-)
[04:56] <cody-somerville> Not sure yet.  The Launchpad Operational SysAdmins and General SysAdmins may have been paged by nagios so someone might show up in a few minutes. If the service continues to be degraded and no one shows up, I'll dial the on-call GSA.
[04:56] <jcape> OK, thanks
[04:58] <ScottK> Still dead here.
[04:59] <james2432> still dead here
[05:00] <gotmilk82_> wow...what happened to launchpad?
[05:00] <james2432> its down
[05:00] <james2432> duh
[05:00] <wgrant> Intermittently.
[05:00] <gotmilk82_> lol, I knew that part....:)
[05:00] <james2432> :P
[05:00] <cody-somerville> wgrant, seems to be really dead now
[05:00] <cody-somerville> wgrant, I get redirected to offline.html immediately.
[05:01] <wgrant> cody-somerville: Yes :(
[05:01] <james2432> till the problem is fixed we won't know what the problem is now would we ;)
[05:01] <wgrant> Like the DB death spirals recently.
[05:01] <gotmilk82_> i was asking more of the "its down for maintenance" or "terrorists hacked it" or etc.....
[05:01] <wgrant> gotmilk82_: OMG IT'S BROKEN ARGHHH is more likely
[05:01] <james2432> terrorists did it :P
[05:01] <gotmilk82_> lol.....
[05:02] <gotmilk82_> man, you guys are kind of pissy when you cant get your launchpad fix.  :P
[05:02] <cody-somerville> hmm... I got an oops id now. Error ID: OOPS-1443EA208
[05:03] <james2432> well I was looking into a bug :P
[05:03] <wgrant> cody-somerville: I think it's probably wake-people-up-at-5am time...
[05:03] <james2432> it only 12:03am here :P
[05:03] <gotmilk82_> its 11 here
[05:04] <gotmilk82_> still early
[05:04] <cody-somerville> wgrant, aye
[05:04] <gotmilk82_> in developer hours
[05:04] <MTecknology> :(
[05:04] <james2432> lol devs never sleep
[05:05] <gotmilk82_> exactly...well one's with day jobs sleep sometimes :)
[05:05] <Pyrox> developer are sleeping when the sun is shining :)
[05:05] <gotmilk82_> exactly
[05:10] <james2432> oOoOOo
[05:10] <james2432> I got to frontpage
[05:11] <james2432> error 504 gateway timed out :(
[05:12] <gotmilk82_> :(
[05:12] <MTecknology> james2432: just need to wait.. it happens sometimes
[05:12] <james2432> i know
[05:12] <gotmilk82_> I have to admit, for what I wanted to do tonight, I am currently lost :(
[05:12] <Pyrox> try to disable the beta feature
[05:12] <gotmilk82_> LOL
[05:12] <Pyrox> i got the pages i need :)
[05:13] <james2432> lmao
[05:13] <gotmilk82_> I had to put kids to bed...all are finally asleep.  Pyrox I hadn't gotten that far :(
[05:13] <james2432> disabling beta works
[05:14] <cody-somerville> No, I'm pretty sure the services are just restored now
[05:14] <james2432> oh
[05:14] <gotmilk82_> its up....lets not all kill it at once :)
[05:14] <james2432> darn
[05:15] <james2432> Don't DDoS the server with a zerg rush :P
[05:19]  * wgrant notes that the identi.ca announcement system didn't work awfully well.
[06:00] <cody-somerville> ugh weird
[06:01] <cody-somerville> the +filebug page keeps getting "reset" when trying to file a new bug
[06:01] <cody-somerville> If I switch to another tab and then back
[06:02] <cody-somerville> or thats not it, its doing it anyhow
[06:23] <wgrant> cody-somerville: Bug already fixed. Should be on edge in a couple of hours.
[06:23]  * cody-somerville nods.
[09:38] <stochastic> hi, if someone is using launchpad's PPA system to distribute software that they don't have the right to distribute, what is the correct course of action to report this?  Is it something that needs to be reported?
[09:39] <wgrant> stochastic: You should certainly report that. You could ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion, or perhaps email feedback@launchpad.net.
[09:39] <ScottK> It definitely needs to be reported.
[09:40] <stochastic> Can I just mention it here?
[09:40] <ScottK> Almost certainly not.
[09:40] <ScottK> I mean not if you want something done about it.
[09:40] <wgrant> it's not going to be noticed here, particularly on a weekend.
[09:40] <stochastic> okay, I'll e-mail
[09:40] <stochastic> thanks.
[09:41] <wgrant> I would suggest rather adding a question.
[09:41] <wgrant> More obviously trackable.
[11:53] <qdb> hello , wha is difference of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[12:02] <AnAnt> when is the launchpad upgrade ?
[18:02] <papapep> hi, there's a member of our loco that has told me that he is not able to access his launchpad account, after a long time of not trying to, as he doesn't nowadays own the mail account with which he originally registered. How can he solve this, and get access once again to his account?
[20:34] <papapep> hi, is there any launchpad admin in the room?
[21:00] <thumper> papapep: not yet, spm starts in an hour or two
[21:44] <papapep> thumper: thanks
[21:57] <popey> can an admin change the status of a team?
[21:58] <popey> we have tried changing ~locoteams-approved from "moderated" to "restricted" but launchpad _always_ times out because its a huge team
[21:58] <popey> is there a database table somewhere that can be poked?
[21:58] <thumper> popey: certainly :)
[21:58] <thumper> popey: but the question is "should it be poked" :)
[21:59] <popey> I defer to someone else to answer that one :)
[22:01] <popey> thumper: who can answer that one?
[22:01] <thumper> popey: spm
[22:01] <thumper> popey: he starts soonish I think
[22:02] <thumper> maybe in an hour
[22:02] <popey> great, thanks
[22:02] <mwhudson> otherwise mthaddon works uk time
[23:03] <spm> popey: ew. sounds irritating. so we/I *don't* forget about it; and can link to bug reports ;-) can you pls open a request for that to be fixed? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[23:03] <popey> will do
[23:03] <popey> worth noting a number of operations around that team are broken
[23:04] <popey> launchpad frequently times out when operating on it
[23:04] <papapep> spm: there's a member of our loco that has told me that he is not able to access his launchpad account, after a long time of not trying to, as he doesn't nowadays own the mail account with which he originally registered. How can he solve this, and get access once again to his account?
[23:06] <spm> papapep: hrm. generally tis best if they create a new account and request a merge rename to the old; via the link above for the request.
[23:07] <papapep> spm: ok, I'll tell him to do so, thanks ;)
[23:07] <spm> np