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chaotikcore | hello all | 02:06 |
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chaotikcore | ive got a ? for anyone who can answer it | 02:16 |
ion | ! | 02:17 |
cody-somerville | chaotikcore, Just ask. | 02:25 |
ion | It’s ok, my exclamation mark already answered his question mark. | 02:25 |
chaotikcore | was talking to someone sorry..i need to know how to edit the pass prompt gui if possible in 9.10 | 02:26 |
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m4t | is there a way to get at Hal via dbus, given the default 9.10 setup? | 06:25 |
m4t | erm nm | 06:27 |
m4t | i was on the session bus | 06:27 |
jdong | [jdong@hideout:aa-tools/sudont]$ sudont-exec sudont_0b1bda83-e83c-41f6-bfad-8a0c49196ef8 bash | 07:35 |
jdong | bash: /etc/bash.bashrc: Permission denied | 07:35 |
jdong | bash: /etc/bash_completion: Permission denied | 07:35 |
jdong | I have no name!@hideout:~/code/aa-tools/sudont$ | 07:35 |
jdong | kees: ^^ *grins* the pieces are getting somewhere! | 07:35 |
kees | jdong: *rofl* sudont | 07:36 |
jdong | LOL I thought it was an amusing working name! | 07:36 |
jdong | [183484.258291] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at (null) | 08:27 |
jdong | [183484.258291] IP: [<ffffffff8125ee7d>] aa_unpack+0xdd/0x2d0 | 08:27 |
jdong | [183484.258291] PGD 2e379067 PUD 5cabf067 PMD 0 | 08:27 |
jdong | [183484.258291] Oops: 0000 [#6] SMP | 08:27 |
jdong | kees: ^^ did you know 2.6.32 seems to blow up when apparmor_parser --add is given a empty profile? | 08:27 |
jdong | i.e. profile foo {} | 08:27 |
jdong | I SUPPOSE technically by apparmor.d(5) a empty profile IS a syntax error... | 08:28 |
jdong | but... this is an awfully mean way of telling me! | 08:28 |
ScottK | jdong: You enage in undefined behavior and anything can happing. Just be glad it didn't eat your hard drive as a way of notification. | 08:30 |
jdong | :) | 08:31 |
kees | jdong: ewww | 08:34 |
kees | jdong: can you open a bug for that so it doesn't get lost? | 08:34 |
jdong | hahaha sure thing! | 08:34 |
kees | cute. gdm will FTBFS if there is a ~ in its version string. | 08:37 |
jdong | ok kees, bug 496110 reported | 08:42 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 496110 in linux "AppArmor oops when loading an empty profile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/496110 | 08:42 |
kees | jdong: thx | 08:51 |
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maxb | Could someone (who is a core-dev) push lp:~maxb/ubuntu/lucid/subversion/merge into lp:ubuntu/subversion? It's already been uploaded to the archive, but bzr hasn't been updated accordingly. Thanks. | 10:00 |
maxb | I've committed a final revision to the branch fixing it up to exactly what was uploaded, and have `bzr mark-uploaded` it | 10:00 |
ari-tczew | hello devs, please take look at lucid's bug #494166 | 10:21 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 494166 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 "[lucid] nvidia-glx can't work with new xorg 7.5" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494166 | 10:21 |
squirrelpimp | hi. i just noticed the following behaviour in thunar, the xubuntu/xfce filemanager, so please interrupt me, if i'm supposed to ask in #xubuntu-devel: | 11:25 |
squirrelpimp | if i copy a large file to an usbstick, it proceeds in about 1 second for a 300 MB file (which comes from a tmpfs). Of course it ends up in the dirty buffers, so it still has to be actually written to the disk. | 11:27 |
squirrelpimp | i the file is sufficiently large, the writeback exceeds the timeout when ejecting the volume right after the copy finished. | 11:27 |
squirrelpimp | therefor i copy the file, open a terminal, type "sync" and wait for it to return before the umount | 11:28 |
squirrelpimp | now the question: Is the behaviour in ubuntu/gnome the same? and would it make sense to have a kind of countdown in the "data is still being written" popup depicting the amount of data to be flushed to disk? | 11:29 |
squirrelpimp | also is there a command to flush only buffers for a single disk? | 11:29 |
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RiotingPacifist | I've installed libs to /usr/local how do i get the system to use them instead of the defaults (globally, e.g not for just a program as i launch it)? | 14:59 |
RiotingPacifist | sorry to repeat this but i lost all logs for the last 30mins so if i got a reply i lost it I've installed libs to /usr/local how do i get the system to use them instead of the defaults (globally, e.g not for just a program as i launch it)? | 15:47 |
geser | they should be picked up before the ones from /usr/lib automatically (beware: having libs in /usr/local which are also packaged might cause upgrade problems later) | 16:09 |
RiotingPacifist | geser: when i run lsof | grep <name of lib> it shows programs still using the old ones :S | 16:11 |
RiotingPacifist | geser: never mind i've rebooted and now everything is using the new versions, not sure what i did earlier | 16:12 |
geser | did you restart the program? | 16:12 |
RiotingPacifist | crashed and restarted everything (but i swear i had restarted everything before, meh it works now :D) | 16:12 |
geser | if it's a long running program (like a server process) you need to restart it to use the new libs | 16:12 |
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Gh0sty | anyone can help debugging printer driver issues? my network printer -epson alc1100- works on ubuntu 32 bit but not on 64 bit and cups does not provide me with any errors ... :( | 17:19 |
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RiotingPacifist | why does ubuntu dd /proc/kmsg to /var/run/kmsg instead of just changing the rights on /proc/kmsg so syslog can read it? | 17:58 |
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dtchen | any archive admins: what else is necessary for JACK to be promoted back into main? e.g., Does a main source package simply need to build-dep against libjack-dev? | 18:40 |
dtchen | (JACK -> jack-audio-connection-kit) | 18:40 |
ScottK | dtchen: Is there an approved MIR? | 18:40 |
ScottK | dtchen: When you say "back into Main", I gather it was there before? In these cases a full MIR is not always required. | 18:41 |
dtchen | ScottK: discussion seems to have stalled (bug 416778 from https://wiki.ubuntu.org/MainInclusionReport/libffado) | 18:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 416778 in libffado "[MIR] libffado" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416778 | 18:43 |
ScottK | Looking | 18:43 |
dtchen | also, yes, j-a-c-k was in main many releases ago. Perhaps 5.04/Hoary? | 18:44 |
ScottK | dtchen: In the last comment in the bug, it seems to me that pitti says you need a MIR for jack and freebob either needs a MIR or dropped from depends. | 18:48 |
ScottK | dtchen: What's the status on those things? | 18:48 |
dtchen | (using pull-lp-source now) | 18:48 |
dtchen | ScottK: ok, so the process for j-a-c-k appears to be blocked on the freebob build-dep, which I'll clear up | 18:50 |
dtchen | ScottK: how about for libffado? | 18:50 |
ScottK | dtchen: It looks like it just needs a Main dep/build-dep (which it will get when jack is promoted) | 18:51 |
dtchen | ScottK: ok, thanks | 18:51 |
ScottK | dtchen: Is there another bug for the jack MIR? It appears one is needed. | 18:52 |
dtchen | ScottK: will get it ironed out via ubuntustudio-devel | 18:53 |
ScottK | dtchen: OK. Good luck. | 18:53 |
jdong | kees: apparmor question... Maybe PEBKAC maybe a parser bug... | 20:33 |
jdong | suppose I have profile foo{ profile /bin/bar{ ... } } | 20:33 |
jdong | i.e. a nested named subprofile | 20:33 |
jdong | I can add this file with apparmor_parser --add and everything is happy | 20:33 |
jdong | but if I pass the same file into apparmor_parser --remove, I get a "failed: profile /bin/bar doesn't exist" | 20:34 |
jdong | however, profile foo and foo//bin/bar are indeed correctly unloaded. | 20:34 |
jdong | Is this a bug with the parser not knowing how to handle subprofiles? | 20:34 |
jdong | in my case of letting users insert and remove subprofiles, I'm concerned if I ACTUALLY have a profile called /bin/bar system-wide, apparmor would proceed to unload that. | 20:34 |
jdong | scratch the latter -- it's not stupid enough to remove a same-named global profile, though it won't print out the error otherwise | 20:37 |
jdong | I think it is a "cosmetic bug" -- I'll file it later | 20:37 |
jdong | http://paste.ubuntu.com/340760/ | 20:38 |
jdong | but just as a progress update ^^ now you can pass in snippets of an AA policy file to be loaded | 20:38 |
jdong | next, we'll work on --auto(magically) generating reasonable rulesets and other useful helpers that should be useful outside this project as well :) | 20:39 |
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nixternal | ogra: is it true, that karmic will not work on my sheevaplug? | 21:17 |
wgrant | nixternal: Yes :( | 21:22 |
nixternal | argh | 21:24 |
nixternal | wget debian.iso | 21:24 |
tormod | why is that? | 21:24 |
nixternal | >= karmic is compiling armel packages with the armv6 flag it seems, whereas debian is still using armv5 | 21:25 |
wgrant | tormod: SheevaPlugs are only ARMv5, whereas Karmic needs ARMv6 | 21:25 |
nixternal | I think I have that correct | 21:25 |
wgrant | And Lucid needs ARMv7+thumb2 | 21:25 |
nixternal | lovely | 21:25 |
nixternal | i was going to go pick up 5 of the sheevaplugs for $60/ea | 21:26 |
tormod | nixternal, where do you get them? | 21:26 |
nixternal | rethinking that now, and looking at a few mini-itx dual-core atom boards | 21:26 |
nixternal | tormod: online, but my dad told me about a local place that was showing them off to him...he just told me about them 30 minutes ago | 21:27 |
wgrant | Hopefully there will be ARMv7 SheevaPlugs/OpenRDs at some point soon :/ | 21:27 |
nixternal | wgrant: same here...i couldn't find anything solid though | 21:27 |
wgrant | nixternal: Me neither. | 21:27 |
tormod | hmm they are more like 170$ here, one way or another | 21:28 |
* wgrant disappears to work. | 21:28 | |
nixternal | wow, I have found them online for $79 | 21:28 |
nixternal | ebay is like $150 | 21:28 |
tormod | link? :) | 21:28 |
nixternal | google had a link on the side when googling "sheevaplug" | 21:28 |
nixternal | it might be though when you purchase more than 1, maybe if you purchase like 2 or more then they are $79/ea | 21:29 |
tormod | I don't get any ads on google, I don't know if I am sad or glad | 21:30 |
nixternal | lol | 21:30 |
tormod | the thing is if these shops ship to europe they only use parcel services which here is 50+ then customs ??++ | 21:32 |
nixternal | yeah, I just noticed that as well | 21:34 |
nixternal | Globalscale, $99 for the plug, $30 for the cheapest ground shipping | 21:34 |
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nixternal | for $60 more I can fly to their location, pick it up, and fly back home :) | 21:35 |
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Trewas | pricing between US and europe is sometimes ridiculous, a while ago I was planning to buy a dell monitor but then I noticed that it would have been cheaper to fly to new york (from finland) and buy it there... so I did not buy it | 21:40 |
syn-ack | Trewas, Thats VAT for ya... | 21:41 |
Trewas | syn-ack: that's only part of it | 21:43 |
syn-ack | I'm sure. heh | 21:43 |
tormod | usually they take the price in $ and uses it in €, that's the first 50%+ | 21:43 |
syn-ack | yikes | 21:45 |
tormod | as in the example above a 100$ product imported from US can cost 200$ altogether, the shops here know this and go as high as they can | 21:47 |
tormod | that's capitalism for you | 21:47 |
tormod | uh, free market I mean | 21:48 |
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