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dhillon-v10hi all, I want to apply an ubuntu debdiff to a debian package, how would I got about doing so00:24
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shakaran2hi, how can I put the my app on Ubuntu here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/tivion00:41
shakaran2anybody can help me?00:52
prefrontal before the release of karmic I packaged my software (emergent) and one of its prerequisites (libquarter). i even wrote scripts to automate the process. but our software can't be built in the standard motu test environment. we require real gl, and out software doesn't work with software level mesa gl02:22
prefrontal this means i can't build our package in a ppa, and it doesn't pass the automatic package build process02:22
prefrontal here is one of my scripts: http://grey.colorado.edu/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/emergent/trunk/bin/ubuntu-motu-emergent?view=markup02:22
prefrontal its due to one of our prerequisites, Coin3d (packages in repo)02:22
prefrontalit just doesn't work with mesa02:23
prefrontalhere is the software btw: emergent neural network simulator http://grey.colorado.edu/emergent02:23
prefrontalany motu want to help me get it into lucid? please.02:23
prefrontalhow does one contact a motu? i have posted my plea multiple times to both the irc channels and the mailing list, and never gotten a reply02:29
prefrontali already did almost all the hard work02:29
ScottKprefrontal: This is the right place, it's just that there are a lot of very busy people.02:36
prefrontalhow can I be sure that the next time they do a package review someone looks at my package?02:41
prefrontalhow come i haven't been contacted by anybody?02:41
prefrontalproactively?02:41
prefrontali submitted my package to the void02:42
ScottKprefrontal: You might also work on getting your stuff into Debian.  There are many more Debian developers than Ubuntu developers and once it's in Debian, it will come into Ubuntu.  Details at mentors.debian.net.02:43
prefrontalthanks02:47
prefrontali submitted my package to debian, thanks ScottK03:18
wrapsterif a latest version of the pkg say(ver2) conflicts with an older version of the same pkg(ver1) how do i add it to the control file as conflicts?03:37
wrapsterConflicts: somepkg (<=ver2)03:38
wrapsteris that the right way?03:38
ScottKwrapster: More like << as you don't want it to conflict with itself03:38
wrapsterscottk: Conflicts: somepkg (<<ver2)03:38
wrapsterright03:38
ScottKYes, but I don't understand why you think you need this.03:39
dtchenprefrontal: what does it work with?03:41
prefrontaldtchen, what do you mean?03:42
dtchenprefrontal: you mention it doesn't build with mesa. What will it build with?03:43
prefrontalhardware gl03:43
prefrontallike you get from a video driver03:43
dtchenprefrontal: meaning *only* proprietary ones from e.g., Nvidia?03:44
dtchenif it doesn't build from a source package, that's pretty nasty03:44
dtchen(meaning if it doesn't build from Ubuntu packages)03:44
prefrontaldtchen, that's not true03:46
prefrontalthere is an open source reverse engineering of nvidia's driver03:46
prefrontalanyway, the package that doesn't work with mesa gl is already in the universe repository. Coin3D03:46
prefrontalit's not our fault.03:46
dtchenprefrontal: I'm not interested in playing games, politics or blame otherwise03:47
wgrantprefrontal: Coin3D builds in an environment identical to the PPA environment.03:47
wgrantprefrontal: So why can yours not?03:47
prefrontalplease try it in yours and tell me what's wrong03:48
prefrontali can't get it to work.03:48
prefrontali run my own repository, it works fine in practice03:48
wgrantWhat is the error?03:49
prefrontalcan you remind me of the place where i submitted my packages to the motus03:49
prefrontalthe error might be there03:49
ScottK!revu | prefrontal03:50
ubottuprefrontal: REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU03:50
prefrontalhere are my packages http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=6847 http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libquarter03:52
prefrontali can't get it to build in pbuilder03:52
prefrontalyou guys can quickly make pbuilder envs right? can you try my package please, and advise me03:53
james_wprefrontal: if you pastebin the end of the output someone might be able to suggest things based on that03:57
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MTecknology!info openbox lucid08:00
ubottuopenbox (source: openbox): standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.7.2-5 (lucid), package size 266 kB, installed size 1432 kB08:01
MTecknology!info openbox karmic08:01
ubottuopenbox (source: openbox): standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.7.2-4 (karmic), package size 279 kB, installed size 1464 kB08:01
micahghow do I ignore a maintainer address complaint in debuild?08:13
fabrice_spmicahg, what is the error?08:25
micahgdpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address08:26
micahgit's for openjdk08:26
fabrice_spwhat is the maintainer address?08:26
micahgOpenJDK Team <openjdk@lists.launchpad.net>08:26
fabrice_spit should be an ubuntu one08:26
fabrice_spstrange: in p.u.c, it appears as Ubuntu core developer08:28
fabrice_sprun update-maintainer and the correct value will be put08:28
micahgfabrice_sp: it puts my address there08:29
fabrice_spwell: update it by hand, then :-D08:29
fabrice_spit happens sometime08:29
micahgfabrice_sp: who is it supposed to be08:29
micahgsomehow it got uploaded to -security like that08:30
fabrice_spUbuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>08:31
fabrice_spdebuild refuse to generate the source package is it's not correct08:31
fabrice_spso either this one is correct and debuild should be patched or it's not correct08:31
micahgI'm not uploading to the archive anyways, just a PPA08:31
ScottKfabrice_sp: It just warns, it doesn't refuse to build the source package.08:32
micahgScottK: I get an error08:32
ScottKmicahg: What release are you using?08:32
micahgScottK: karmic08:33
ScottKDunno08:33
fabrice_spit's an error: dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address08:34
fabrice_spand then: debuild: fatal error at line 1334:08:34
fabrice_spiirc, it only fails if you are using an ubuntu email address08:35
micahgany ideas?08:39
_rubenshouldnt a ppa have your own mail address in it? (just an uneducated guess)08:41
micahgah, I updated it to u-d-d08:41
fabrice_sp_ruben, for a ppa, yes: that's the correct value08:46
micahghmm...I guess I could've done that08:46
fabrice_sp(your own email, I mean)08:46
_rubenand since micahg's working on a package for a ppa.... ;)08:47
micahg_ruben: I'll keep that in mind for next time :)08:48
_rubenhaving debuild 'understand' more version-email mappings probably requires patching debuild itself right? say i want to build -company packages using @company.com addresses08:49
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didrockssuperm1: thanks for the change in mythbuntu-default-settings. Really quick :)11:05
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sbasuitaHi, I'm having a bit of trouble building a karmic package with pbuilder-dist. I first created my chroot with 'pbuilder-dist karmic create', then downloaded the source package of fldigi in karmic (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fldigi/3.11.4-1). To build, I ran 'pbuilder-dist karmic build fldigi_3.11.4-1.dsc'. However, I get a compilation error in one of the upstream sources:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/340553/ (line 861). I'm wonderin14:25
sbasuitag what's wrong with my local setup that would cause this error here but not on the buildds? Thanks in advance for any help.14:25
gesersbasuita: nothing is wrong with your setup. I guess it got build on the buildds before the default g++ got updated to be 4.4. several other packages have the same problem now as g++ is more iso c++ compliant than the previous versions14:39
sbasuitageser, ok, thanks14:40
lucasany comments about http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_nbs.cgi?15:24
* c0p3rn1c bows to the MOTU :)15:24
geserlucas: looks interesting, how often does it get updated?15:25
directhexlucas, handy.15:26
lucasgeser: the data is from full archive rebuilds, so it gets updated when I run a rebuild15:26
lucashowever, if a package gets updated in ubuntu, it's moved to the bottom of the page ("outdated results")15:26
lucasgeser: I plan to run full rebuilds every 2-4 weeks, like I do for Debian15:27
c0p3rn1cI've bin having problems with gnome-do for a while, and they released a fix but it's not yet in the repository, if I package gnome 0.8.3.1 for you guys, will you put it in the general repos?15:28
randomactionlucas: maybe it should be called FTBFS, because NBS usually refers to a different thing15:38
randomaction!nbs15:38
ubottuSome packages are no longer built from source as a result of various transitions.  The reverse dependencies of these packages require an update.  The current tracking list is available from http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/15:38
randomactionbut really helpful with these additional bits of info15:39
c0p3rn1cI'm talking about this bug in gnome-do: https://bugs.launchpad.net/do/+bug/395190 ihmo the fix should be rolled out ASAP15:40
ubottuUbuntu bug 395190 in do "GNOME do 0.8.2 use 90% CPU when my computer startup。" [High,Fix released]15:40
lucasrandomaction: ok, also moved to http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi15:42
* randomaction re-bookmarks15:43
Laneyc0p3rn1c: you should update it in debian15:44
randomactionc0p3rn1c: if you want it fixed in Karmic, then the fix should be isolated and SRU done15:44
randomaction!sru15:45
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates15:45
Laney(has to be fixed in lucid first)15:45
c0p3rn1cic15:45
Laneyinfact RAOF already prepared the update15:48
c0p3rn1cok great15:49
c0p3rn1chow did you know this?15:50
c0p3rn1cLaney,15:51
LaneyI looked in SVN15:51
c0p3rn1csvn history?15:51
Laneyif you like15:52
c0p3rn1cLaney, is there already a package with the fix available then ? and where ?15:53
c0p3rn1cLaney, I don't understand, svn is for managing source code, what does this have to do with the packaging repository?15:54
c0p3rn1cthe universe packages I mean15:55
Laneyno there isn't, but it is ready16:03
c0p3rn1cLaney, yes that's why I said that they have released a fix16:09
wolfrageSo if some one want to get involved in MOTU would this be the right place?17:26
pochuyes17:27
etaliWolfrage:  This is the right place to ask specific questions about MOTU.  For a general overview, check out some of the wiki links in the topic.17:28
wolfragecopy that thanks17:29
etaliIf you're unsure about any stuff in those links, people here will point you in the right direction (I'm just getting started on MOTU stuff, there's a lot to read, but the experienced peeps in here are helpful).17:30
fabrice_sp__I fixed a FTBFS of a package that I'd never been built in Ubuntu, and the binary has been 10 days in the NEW queue. Is it normal? It's maven-repository-builder17:34
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ScottKfabrice_sp: Yes.  This cycle archive admins have spent a lot of time dealing with blacklisting v3 source pacakge format packages and so other stuff is behind.18:10
fabrice_spok. Do we have a date for V3 source package package support in Ubuntu?18:12
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ScottKNext week is the current plan.18:18
Laneythe code landed in launchpad18:20
Laneyapparently buildds and scripts are a different matter18:20
fabrice_spok. Thanks!18:29
fabrice_spI'm trying to review a merge request done using bazaar, and the revision contains the debian changes as well as the ubuntu ones. Is it normal?19:03
fabrice_spthis is for bug #49599819:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 495998 in resolvconf "Please merge resolvconf 1.45 (universe) from Debian testing (main)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49599819:03
randomactionI believe you are shown the ubuntu-to-ubuntu diff, so yes19:38
fabrice_sprandomaction, and how can I get the debian-to-ubuntu diff? This is the really interesting one :-/19:41
randomactionrequires a lot of clicking19:42
randomactionhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/ubuntu/lucid/resolvconf/lucid/revision/17?remember=1.1.6&compare_revid=1.1.619:42
* fabrice_sp is not sure it's easier than a good debdiff! :-)19:45
randomactionlike click revision number -> "Compare with another revision" -> click Debian parent -> "compare with revision ###" -> "reverse the comparison"19:45
randomactionI checked the docs at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation/UploadingAPackage and it looks like it's not making sponsor's life much easier19:46
fabrice_spI will still request a debdiff :-)19:48
randomactionwhen I first heard about it I imagined something like sponsor clicking "Yes, I'm sponsoring this diff" in Launchpad, or maybe sending an equivalent gpg-signed email19:50
fabrice_spSo do I19:50
Q-FUNKI need help with bug #47246820:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 472468 in cups-pdf "cups-pdf and cups-insecure-filter print error on cups 1.4.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47246820:05
Q-FUNKthe fix is already in Lucid and it's against the same upstream release as Karmic. I'm wondering whether it's possible to push that as an update to Karmic?20:06
joaopinto!sru20:11
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates20:11
joaopintoops, he is out20:11
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jbichawhy does Help>Report a Problem not appear as Help>Report a Problem...23:07

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