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| === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| FFEMTcJ | is TB3 on a non daily ppa yet? | 01:35 |
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| BUGabundo | fta: (01:39:04 AM) bjsnider: BUGabundo, i realize you need bug testers for chromium-browser, but i can't see anything wrong with it... | 01:40 |
| BUGabundo | (01:39:08 AM) bjsnider: works fine | 01:40 |
| fta | BUGabundo, codecs broken, webgl broken, some say svg broken but wfm, ... | 01:42 |
| fta | some say it's slower than chrome, can't confirm | 01:43 |
| fta | but most love it | 01:43 |
| BUGabundo | haven't notice a thing in daily | 01:45 |
| micahg | hi gnomefreak | 03:16 |
| micahg | blueprint is attached to the bug in LP | 03:16 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: hi ok ill look again i didnt see it there but with LP beta always changing it could have moved | 03:26 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: it's on the bottom right now | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: thanks | 03:26 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I was wondering what plans you had for packaging this cycle | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: atm i going to be leaving to go back out of town until feb. but as of right now i have none. once m-d gets fixed i will package sunbird | 03:27 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: you'll package sunbird after feb or now? | 03:27 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: when ever m-d gets fixed but ive been asking someone to do that since late karmic dev cycle | 03:28 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: what's wrong with m-d? | 03:28 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: ii should have this box up there so i can do it than i hope | 03:28 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: it doesnt grab pre release sunbird/lightning seamonkey-2.0. it grabs sunbird-0.9 and sm 2.1 | 03:29 |
| * micahg was going to look into it after tb3 and enigmail | 03:29 | |
| gnomefreak | enigmail can use a good cleaning last i saw it it was a mess | 03:29 |
| micahg | yep, and there's no bzr repo | 03:29 |
| * gnomefreak cant find any .wav :( | 03:30 | |
| micahg | gnomefreak: how does sunbird pull the source now, I couldn't find it | 03:31 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: i dont recall i havent needed it since 0.9 came out. but i have updated package in m-t branches | 03:31 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I know fta made some changed to the firefox and tb builds to pull only certain branches, maybe I can adapt those for TB/SM | 03:35 |
| micahg | oops, I meant sunbird/SM | 03:36 |
| gnomefreak | sorry about that firefox froze and i cant get into a TTY for some reason | 03:45 |
| micahg | ok, I'm wondering if update-orig is what I'm looking for in sunbird... | 03:54 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: i dont think it is let me check | 03:59 |
| gnomefreak | wait yes it is but give me a sec | 03:59 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: it is update-orig | 03:59 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: maybe I can tweak it like fta did with the TB/FF builds | 04:00 |
| micahg | BTW, sunbird 1.0b1 was released | 04:01 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: you can try but i remember it being more involved | 04:01 |
| micahg | ok, well, I won't get to the till after I get TB3 built for lucid | 04:01 |
| ripps | I've discovered that some websites have figured how to disable pageaction chromium extensions. Now I can adblock on certain sites. | 04:02 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: not sure the package will grab b1 since it isnt final from m-d's POV | 04:02 |
| ripps | s/can/can't | 04:02 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: maybe we need a get-orig-source in there then | 04:02 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: yeah i agree, i havent figured out what im going to do with sunbird/lightning once sunbird is stopped | 04:03 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: why would sunbird stop? | 04:03 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: 1.0b1 is the last of it. noone willing to build it/support it upstream | 04:04 |
| gnomefreak | only lightning will continue | 04:04 |
| gnomefreak | i would have to re read all the posts (find them first) to be exact on that | 04:05 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: do you have the KDE intergration bug handy? | 04:05 |
| micahg | bug 494067 | 04:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 494067 in xulrunner "Provide better Firefox KDE integration" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494067 | 04:06 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 04:06 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I think this is what you were referring to: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/calendar/2009/08/how_to_save_sunbird.html | 04:07 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: that is one of many but that gives enough to get an idea. I get them in my mailing lists for mozilla. i had asked what was needed for it to continue but they need all points of dev. | 04:09 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I guess we'd just package lightning if sunbird goes away and they refuse to build a 64 bit version | 04:10 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: yeah we will continue but i was thinking make it into an .xpi using same method as other extensions but i havent had time to think about how i want to continue on with it. doesnt it work on 64bit? it should | 04:11 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: the version of lightning nightlies will not work on 64 bit | 04:12 |
| gnomefreak | hmm | 04:13 |
| gnomefreak | why would 64bit work with 0.9 but not 1.0* | 04:13 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: we compile 64 bit for 0.9 | 04:14 |
| gnomefreak | yeah i thought of that after i hit <enter> | 04:14 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: if sunbird goes away, we can have TB source build lightning | 04:15 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: right but from what im seeing they are thinking of using lightning as a standalone (sort of) | 04:16 |
| * gnomefreak wonders if this reply to upstream from LP works | 04:21 | |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| hackel | Anyone know of a PPA building an icedtea6-plugin that is compatible with Firefox 3.6? | 06:43 |
| micahg | hackel: why isn't the one in the archvie compatible? | 07:07 |
| hackel | Firefox 3.6 requires NPAPI plugins, the old one used OJI. | 07:08 |
| micahg | I know the sun plugin works fine | 07:10 |
| hackel | Perhaps, but I don't want to use any proprietary garbage. | 07:11 |
| micahg | hackel: which version of ubuntu? | 07:11 |
| hackel | Karmic. It's nothing crucial, I can still run firefox-3.5 on those 2 times a year that I actually need the java plugin :) | 07:12 |
| micahg | ok, well, we'll try to get it fixed for lucid | 07:13 |
| micahg | hackel: can you see if a bug is filed against openjdk-6? | 07:14 |
| hackel | Yeah, I looked a bit and didn't find one immediately, but I'll look again and file one if I can't find it. | 07:15 |
| micahg | hackel: ok, please subscribe micahg when you do | 07:21 |
| micahg | hackel: that code should be in karmic | 07:43 |
| hackel | micahg: hmm, I just assumed that's why it wasn't working, but could be something else? Do you get java in ff3.6? | 07:44 |
| hackel | It won't even show up for me in about:plugins, but works fine in ff3.5. | 07:44 |
| micahg | hackel: let me try in 3.7 | 07:44 |
| micahg | hmm | 07:48 |
| micahg | no go in 3.7 | 07:48 |
| micahg | I guess I live quite well without java... | 07:49 |
| micahg | I don't have it :) | 07:50 |
| hackel | Yeah, like I said I find myself wanting to use it about twice a year. | 07:50 |
| micahg | could be a build option | 07:51 |
| hackel | There's an --enable-npplugin option described in the openjdk readme. | 07:52 |
| micahg | hackel: it seems to depend on which xulrunner openjdk is built against | 07:54 |
| micahg | ok, I'm updating the bug | 07:55 |
| hackel | micahg: Yes, that's mentioned on that site, because 1.9.2 is where they dropped oji support. | 07:55 |
| micahg | I suppose I can push a version to my PPA and have it build against xul-1.9.2 | 07:57 |
| hackel | I'll definitely test it out if you do. There's also an openjdk-7 ppa I saw. | 08:01 |
| Mitch | asac: Building Firefox with Qt would improve its KDE integration, at least in the look 'n' feel department. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-firefox-kde-integration | 08:01 |
| === debfx_ is now known as debfx | ||
| debfx | Mitch: is the firefox qt port still actively developed? | 09:45 |
| Mitch | debfx: They make sure it still builds, yeah. | 09:45 |
| losich0s | need help for thunderbird: can send mails successful, but not receive. | 12:20 |
| losich0s | hello? anybody in here? | 12:21 |
| mbana | what's up with the font rendering in TB 3 | 13:58 |
| asac | mbana: same that is up with fonts in ffox35? | 14:11 |
| asac | ;) | 14:11 |
| mbana | asac: no. far worse. hinting isn't even on | 14:11 |
| mbana | can u show me how yours looks | 14:11 |
| asac | http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/tb3font.png | 14:13 |
| mbana | asac: ok that looks v. good. on my side, there's no hinting at all | 14:13 |
| mbana | one sec | 14:14 |
| asac | mbana: check your .fonts.conf | 14:14 |
| asac | the xul 1.9.1 branch doesnt honour gnome settings that good (ffox and tb) | 14:14 |
| asac | so if you tweak in fontconfig it wins basically | 14:15 |
| Mitch | asac: So...what about Qt Firefox builds for Kubuntu? | 14:16 |
| asac | Mitch: thats far off | 14:17 |
| Mitch | Ah. | 14:17 |
| asac | Mitch: the gtk qt backend is considered OK for what we want | 14:17 |
| Mitch | Eww. | 14:17 |
| asac | gtk qt engine that is | 14:17 |
| asac | what we do this cycle (if we find the resources and get permission from upstream) is integrating the patches used by suse | 14:18 |
| asac | hopefully after landing them upstream | 14:18 |
| asac | in any case: the qt backend is not really finished/usable/maintained/supported upstream | 14:18 |
| mbana | http://yfrog.com/elscreenshotkip | 14:20 |
| mbana | i'm using the PPA with just TB £ | 14:21 |
| mbana | TB 3 | 14:21 |
| asac | you say the left one is better? | 14:21 |
| mbana | .fonts.conf: http://pastebin.com/m792cc258. it's pretty long | 14:22 |
| mbana | yes far better | 14:22 |
| mbana | it seems the menus are rendering well, yet the content isn't | 14:22 |
| asac | looks identical to me ;) | 14:22 |
| asac | ah | 14:22 |
| asac | i checked content | 14:22 |
| asac | anyway ... itrs understandable that 2.0 is different from 3.0 | 14:23 |
| asac | as i said, we have this "gnome settings bustage" bug for fonts | 14:24 |
| asac | in 1.9.1 xul branch (shared among f3.5 and t3.0) | 14:24 |
| mbana | i'm not sure if i updated xul as well | 14:24 |
| asac | so the difference from mine to yours is probably fontconfig tweakage | 14:24 |
| asac | mbana: tb3 has xul 1.9.1 ... but uses its own copy | 14:25 |
| asac | also if you have ffox 3.5 you have 1.9.1 anyway | 14:25 |
| BUGabundo | hey guys | 14:42 |
| asac | hi BUGabundo | 14:43 |
| BUGabundo | asac: working on Sunday? | 14:44 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 14:44 |
| mbana | asac: so you're saying i should tweak the .fonts.conf? | 14:54 |
| * BUGabundo is still crying over new pidgin *smallest* fonts | 14:55 | |
| BUGabundo | must make this bigger or I'll go blind | 14:56 |
| === kbrosnan_ is now known as kbrosnan | ||
| mbana | asac: mind posting ur config | 15:29 |
| BUGabundo | fta: stupid Ch no longer restores window size :( | 15:32 |
| fta | BUGabundo, the beta or trunk? | 15:35 |
| BUGabundo | trunk | 15:35 |
| BUGabundo | started last night | 15:35 |
| BUGabundo | if I open a new window it will be eihter half screen or "almost" full screen but not maximized | 15:36 |
| fta | did you look for an existing bug? | 15:40 |
| fta | asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1350378 | 15:40 |
| bdrung | asac: around? | 15:40 |
| BUGabundo | fta: not yet | 15:40 |
| BUGabundo | been busing flashing my android | 15:41 |
| BUGabundo | its easier to just complain to you :) | 15:41 |
| fta | fighting with the codecs right now | 15:42 |
| fta | chromium-browser 24715 1.80% 4468 12764 7478 5 | 15:44 |
| fta | google-chrome-unstable 20246 1.48% 4794 9641 5792 19 | 15:44 |
| fta | google-chrome-beta 3203 0.23% 855 3 2343 2 | 15:44 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 15:44 |
| fta | BUGabundo, ^^ you're not good enough at spreading the news | 15:44 |
| BUGabundo | open 12 tabs (almost) at once, and Ch dies | 15:44 |
| BUGabundo | fta: I haven't even started | 15:44 |
| fta | or users are dumb | 15:44 |
| BUGabundo | you said you didnt want public spread yet | 15:44 |
| BUGabundo | before more testing | 15:44 |
| fta | i sure do now | 15:45 |
| fta | enough testing, go live | 15:45 |
| BUGabundo | where's chromium beta in there!? | 15:45 |
| fta | i used the same name | 15:45 |
| fta | google didn't | 15:46 |
| BUGabundo | ?! | 15:47 |
| fta | they regained 3000+ users on us in 3 days | 15:48 |
| BUGabundo | so unstalbe is google beta? | 15:49 |
| fta | no, google-chrome-unstable is ~trunk, and google-chrome-beta is the beta | 15:50 |
| fta | well, not sure about google-chrome-unstable, i need to see the version | 15:51 |
| fta | i never installed it | 15:51 |
| BUGabundo | me neither | 15:51 |
| BUGabundo | so chromium-browser is trunk+beta ppas ? | 15:52 |
| fta | yes | 15:58 |
| fta | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567 | 15:59 |
| fta | hm.. http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/08/secrets_of_the_mmscfg_file_1.html | 16:00 |
| fta | does this work at all? | 16:01 |
| BUGabundo | fta: the slite optimization seems to work pretty well | 16:03 |
| BUGabundo | adblock of course not | 16:03 |
| BUGabundo | faster fox causes problems in most servers | 16:03 |
| BUGabundo | disabling ipv6 is a mistake | 16:03 |
| BUGabundo | but an workaround for Ubuntu bug | 16:04 |
| BUGabundo | most proxy will kill you if you push pipeline | 16:04 |
| BUGabundo | flash 64 bits > flash 32 wrapper of course | 16:04 |
| BUGabundo | force composite in X? lol | 16:05 |
| BUGabundo | eheh ramdrives? LOL | 16:05 |
| BUGabundo | with the amount of crashs I have , that's a bad option | 16:05 |
| BUGabundo | LOLOLOL getting trunk from mozilla when we have daily PPAs | 16:06 |
| BUGabundo | SWIFTFOX is lame | 16:06 |
| fta | go tell them that | 16:06 |
| BUGabundo | What is Profile-Guided Optimization (PGO)? | 16:06 |
| BUGabundo | humm right how are we on PGO? | 16:07 |
| BUGabundo | asac said he would try that | 16:07 |
| BUGabundo | ok, so 20% of what he says is OK | 16:07 |
| BUGabundo | the rest will just put the user over an HUGE piece of trouble | 16:07 |
| BUGabundo | fta: so stupid Pohotoshop http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2009/12/playboy-poland-bells.html | 16:17 |
| fta | BUGabundo, "why does she only have one breast?" lol :) | 16:19 |
| BUGabundo | hehehee | 16:19 |
| BUGabundo | guess playboy could spare to pay to include both!? | 16:20 |
| fta | "Why are her legs taller than my garage door?" | 16:20 |
| BUGabundo | missed that one | 16:21 |
| mbana | mmm anyone around | 16:48 |
| mbana | asac: ... | 16:48 |
| mbana | does anyone use gmail? have u noticed that when u reply to an email on, say, a list, it doesn't show up in gmail | 16:51 |
| BUGabundo | mbana: | 16:52 |
| BUGabundo | yes | 16:52 |
| BUGabundo | gmail won't show emails sent to your self | 16:52 |
| BUGabundo | that's a "feature" | 16:53 |
| mbana | wait hold on ... if i use gmail i sent it myself | 16:53 |
| mbana | so why does it appear then | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo | they filter it | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo | you can see it in the sent and All | 16:54 |
| BUGabundo | that's it | 16:54 |
| mbana | am i the only one that's confused right now? what do they filter? | 16:55 |
| BUGabundo | the received email | 16:55 |
| BUGabundo | from the list you just sent | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo | example | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo | you reply to my email from mozillateam ML | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo | everyone on the least will get it, but your gmail account will filter the delived email | 16:56 |
| BUGabundo | so you will never receive it, as it usually works on other email setups | 16:57 |
| BUGabundo | that's why I activate the deliver Mailman receipt | 16:57 |
| mbana | are u saying, it's possible for me to send using TB and have in appear in the thread in gmail? | 16:58 |
| BUGabundo | errk | 16:59 |
| BUGabundo | what? | 16:59 |
| BUGabundo | now I'm confused | 16:59 |
| mbana | no why does gmail show my replies in the thread? it makes it seem as though i'm receiving my own replies | 17:00 |
| mbana | here is my workflow. | 17:00 |
| mbana | assume thread x. i reply to thread x in gmail. i see the reply within gmail | 17:01 |
| mbana | i reply to thread in TB, i don't see it. | 17:01 |
| mbana | when i say, i see it in gmail, i mean i see the reply within the thread, as well as in sent folder | 17:01 |
| BUGabundo | ah | 17:05 |
| BUGabundo | all sent emails are in (gmail)Sent folder | 17:06 |
| BUGabundo | and also All | 17:06 |
| BUGabundo | you must sync those folders in TB | 17:06 |
| mbana | but will i see the reply in the thread? | 17:09 |
| mbana | or will i have to manually navigate to the sent/all folder? | 17:09 |
| BUGabundo | you have to put rule to place the sent email on the proper folder you want the thread | 17:10 |
| BUGabundo | that's what I do on kmail | 17:10 |
| BUGabundo | your own TB sent | 17:10 |
| BUGabundo | not the gmail one | 17:11 |
| mbana | and then it'll also appear in the gmail? see i don't have access to imap/smtp at work so i gotta use gmail there | 17:16 |
| BUGabundo | it *always* appars in gmail | 17:16 |
| mbana | just not in the right place | 17:18 |
| BUGabundo | yes, right place | 17:18 |
| mbana | did anyone see the screen asac posted? if anyone has a similar setup can u post your .fonts.conf | 18:05 |
| fta | what screen? | 18:11 |
| mbana | BUGabundo: do i need to restart TB 3 to see .fonts.conf changes | 19:09 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 19:09 |
| BUGabundo | maybe I should try TB ? | 19:09 |
| BUGabundo | man I'm in love with KMail | 19:09 |
| BUGabundo | but I have tooooo much mail in there | 19:09 |
| BUGabundo | maybe I should just forget and start fresh ! | 19:09 |
| bdrung | asac: please review https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/mozilla-devscripts/dh_xul-ext and tranform the xpath into python. | 19:19 |
| === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| === BUGabundo is now known as BUGabundo_lunch | ||
| === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| BUGabundo | fta: what was the privacy link you gave last night? | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo | can't find it in my history | 22:16 |
| BUGabundo | man I miss my FF awesome bar right now | 22:16 |
| fta | BUGabundo, Omnibox is supposed to be even better | 22:20 |
| jason81 | hi there!!! someone can you help to change my ip | 22:20 |
| BUGabundo | fta: either it isint or I lost all my logs | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | no history before 2 days | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | fta: but do you have the link at hand where it stated the privacy stuff of chrome ? | 22:21 |
| fta | >> BUGabundo_work, at least, chromium doesn't have that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Usage_tracking | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | tanks | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | ahhh wikipedia | 22:22 |
| fta | there are blogs about that too | 22:22 |
| BUGabundo | jason81: what do you need? | 22:23 |
| fta | support is provided in #ubuntu, not here | 22:23 |
| jason81 | BUGabundo: thanks for your help.. I need to change my Ip for see | 22:24 |
| jason81 | BUGabundo: thanks for your help.. I need to change my Ip for whatc a film in streaming | 22:24 |
| jason81 | unfortunately this film are visibile only in usa | 22:24 |
| jason81 | <BUGabundo:I have tried to install torbutton but i don't resolve.. any suggestion? | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | jason81: not the place to ask | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | try #ubuntu | 22:29 |
| jason81 | ok.. I try for better understand the add-on torbutton | 22:30 |
| jason81 | thanks | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | fta: can you please return me my hamer | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | I need to punch and stab GWIBBER a bit | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | darn thing dies every 10 min :( | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | and also keeps lossing replies :((((( | 22:39 |
| * BUGabundo cries | 22:39 | |
| fta | BUGabundo, it's stable for me. but complain to asac or kenvandine, not to me, i'm just the middle man for the dailies now | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | not complaing to you | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | just asking for my hammer back | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | btw when was the "daily" last updated? | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | I haven't got many updates :( | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | and still can't change font size kenvandine | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | I'm amazed hoe much Mosaic still resembles to browsers in use today | 23:34 |
| === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| fta | i've used Mosaic for a year or two before netscape 0.9 appeared, i remember people saying that it had no future, that ftp & gopher were there to stay | 23:43 |
| mbana | did asac disappear? | 23:43 |
| fta | -it had+it will have | 23:43 |
| fta | mbana, try tomorrow, european business hours | 23:43 |
| fta | well, it's already monday | 23:44 |
| BUGabundo | not here | 23:46 |
| BUGabundo | I don't recall using Mosaic much | 23:46 |
| BUGabundo | I did use netscape | 23:46 |
| BUGabundo | and then IE | 23:46 |
| BUGabundo | started in the web in 94/95 | 23:46 |
| BUGabundo | a shared PC at school | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | over ISDN :) | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | IRC was king | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | altavista too | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | still remember like it was today | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | teachers commenting when we said : "hotmail" eheh | 23:47 |
| BUGabundo | back in the days MSFT didn't own it | 23:48 |
| BUGabundo | and inbox were 256KB | 23:48 |
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